Mr. College Football

By Freddy Jones

November 12, 2008 7:08 AM | Link to this

Another good column Tony.

By Neither...

November 12, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this

…Tuberville nor Fulmer will be coaching at Clemson next year. While this has been a tough year for coaches wearing orange (Bowden, Fulmer and Tuberville) Clemson is not likely to hire guys who are on the downhill side of their coaching careers jsut because they happen to be available.

The Tigers do, indeed, need someone who will instill some toughness into the program, yet neither Phat Phil nor Toober will get that job.

By Mike

November 12, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this

Agreed Tony…Leach would not fit in at Tennessee. I like the thinking outside the box but Tennessee does not have the personnel to run that style of offense.

By reality

November 12, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this

Not sure Tuberville wants to coach anywhere, anymore. At least it’s kept his mind occupied from other … ahem … distractions.

By bull-gator

November 12, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

1. Tebow is NOT the best QB or RB in college football. However, he IS the best football PLAYER in college. That’s what the Heisman award is for, I think.

2. Auburn would be crazy to fire Tuberville. He’s one of the top 5 coaches in the SEC. Is that banker still running that program?

3. Fulmer should not have been fired. The AD is trying to save his own skin. What a loser.

4. Tuberville would kick some serious butt in the SEC.

5. Mike Leach is a good coach, but not SEC material. Under Leach the Volunteers would be 4th palce in the SEC East most times than not.

By T-Bone

November 12, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

Tony, how about Leach at Clemson?

By Gatorman

November 12, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this

I totally agree with you article on Tebow. He pledged great things would happen from the Ole Miss lose and as of right now, he is held true to his game. He is the best overall QB in college football. No one wants a piece of Florida right now. They are the best team in college football……..and just think Ga. fans…no Seniors on defense!

By gtforever

November 12, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

TEBOW needs to stop cheer leading on the sideline. It’s sickening! He should have been penalized in the UGAY game! It shows a LACK of CLASS, and PLEASE, REAL football players don’t call cheers from the sideline! I mean all the way down to the 10 yard line cheering the fans on! Good Grief was has SEC football come to!

By bull-gator

November 12, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Correction: Tuberville would kick some serious butt in the ACC. As we all know he’s been kicking butt in the SEC for over a decade…

By Doug

November 12, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Tony,

I usually agree with you, but Fulmer to Clemson ain’t going to happen. The LAST place Fulmer would go would be where he is in the same state with Spurrier.

By Tony's smarter brother

November 12, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

1) Right , Tony. Tim Tebow is a throwback to the really good old days of college football. He’s a Florida guy. Loves his university. He’s not some spoiled ,mercenary Tyrrell Pryor -type that is counting his NFL millions. Like him or hate him,he has been good for the SEC. I wish every school in the conference had one like him…

2) Tuberville’s situation is exhibit A for NOT having boosters run your athletic department. It is shameful that UA’s president has not had the guts to take a leadership role in this. He could put all this speculation to rest with a simple , plain language statement that Tubs is going to be the coach at Auburn,period. I don’t personally care for Tuberville,but he has paid his dues there and deserves the benefit of the doubt. Do you think that Ole Miss wishes that they had not canned David Cutcliffe after one bad year ?

3) Phil Fulmer has lost touch with today’s players. He could scarcely improve his legacy with a so-so tenure at CU (or anywhere else). Better to go out with some dignity than hang on too long…

4) Tuberville would be a pretty good fit a Clemson,but it’s doubtful that the Tigers braintrust would agree to a $6 million golden handshake like Auburn. Tubby has learned that a strong contract is akin to job security. He knows that without that big buyout,the naysayers will run you out of town after a bad half-season. Clemson won’t pony up.

5) Mike Leach is in an ideal situation at TTU. They will tolerate the occaisional 7-5 clunker. Tennessee won’t. He knows this (he was Hal Mumme’s OC at UK) .Great time to ask for a raise from Tech,but moving to Volville is a dead end if you don’t win big,fast.

See you at Thanksgiving,little brother…

By Bob

November 12, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

LOL @ Tebow “managing” the offense. He can’t run a play without looking to the sideline first. Yes, he’s having a very accurate year throwing the ball but that’s about it. Most of the time he just hands the ball off to one of the speedsters and then sits back and watches like the rest of us. He’s a fine quarterback but he’s had his turn at the Heisman. He doesn’t deserve another one.

By yellowblood

November 12, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Please don’t try to hire Paul Johnson. He has been responcible for some of the greatest Tickle Piles in the history of GT.

For more on our long Tickle Pile history go to www.ticklepile.com.

By JDM

November 12, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

Who would next at Auburn ? Butch Davis, Will Muschamp, Paul Johnson, or Derek Dooley ?

By Bob...

November 12, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

…You are just showing your limited knowledge about football with comments like you just posted!

By jumbo

November 12, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

When I saw Tebow at the LSU game in 2007 I was very impressed with him. He was better than I thought he was. There are very few guys by themselves that can make a big difference by being on the field and he’s one of them. I am impressed with Graham Herrell’s touch on the ball but Tebow deserves the Heisman. He is a very smart football player. Like him or not he is the best player in college football.

Geaux Tigers!

By jp

November 12, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

will the bcs move from broadcast to cable. why? what does it say to fans who dont have cable? i thought college football is popular. why leave free tv.

By Never Rong

November 12, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Has Tuberville ever really fit in at Auburn? His record is good enough, but every single year there’s a question of whether he’s about to be pushed out or he’s entertaining other offers. Perhaps one could see this coming based on the way he left Ole Miss. No one at Clemson is seriously considering Fulmer or Tuberville. Is there any thought of Tebow going pro this year? I’ve never seen it mentioned (unlike M. Stafford.

By JB

November 12, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

I’m a homer Dawg fan, but I tip my hat to Tebow. He’s an emotional guy, but a true team leader and a damn fine football player……………..he might not be that good in any system, but he is real good in the Florida offense. I’ll be glad when he’s holding a clip board in the NFL. …………………………………………I think ears will be fired and end up at Clemson. He will do well in the ACC.

By athensdawg

November 12, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

the heisman is just like everything else in our society today…watered down, over marketed, and meaningless…just another excuse for ESPN to get some advertizing revenue.

I’m going to make the gator fans real happy with my next comment. Just give it to Tebow for the next 2 years. He is the only guy who deserves it. He is a throwback player who can put his team on his back and carry them to victory….

like any other uga fan, i hate florida with a passion. but-after this year’s game, they have proven to me that they are man enough to win my respect.

the uga players need to try to figure out how to get their skirts off and put on some football pants or else we are going to be in for a thrashing for a good long time in jacksonville.

I would love to see Phil end up in Clempson. I would love it even more if UGA would get off their duffs and reschedule the georgia-clempson series…but, we have to travel the globe to build our “brand.”

If we would man up and win some big games that problem might just take care of itself.

The entire Auburn athletic department needs their heads examined. They caused Tommy T to freak out and go to the spread by leavin on a midnight plane to petrino.

While all this was going on, they failed to notice that satan snuck into Tuscaloosa and stole their thunder.

Honestly, I wish the best for T.T. He’s a good solid football coach. Auburn should hold on to him.

By Will

November 12, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Big Tone,

As you know I am a UGA grad/fan but I must say, If Tebow wins his next three games he is the Heisman winner without a doubt! Forget those big 12 losers! Also, he will probably go down as the greatest college football player of all time I would imagine. I just wish here were wearing those silver britches. I also bet he comes back for a 4th season to win a third heisman. More great news if your a dawg fan.

By Soulja Boy

November 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

How dare Tebow wave a towel in celebration after whipping the poopoo out of a class act like Georgia. Fortunately the Georgia fans and several team members had already left the building and were spared this thuggish display of bad sportsmanship.

By GatorGuy

November 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

gtforever Why do you and others have a problem with players showing enthusiasm? So he is going up and down his sideline celebrating with his fans. He is not directing anything at the other team or their fans.

How boring would sports be if everyone just had a ho-hum attitude about success? I loved the UGA danced lasted year. I loved the Meyer called 2 timeouts to stick it to UGA this year. That is what makes college sports so fun.

College Football is about emotion and passion from the players, coaches and fans alike.

By bama12titles

November 12, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Why does anyone really pay attention to the Heisman race anyway? Its really just a popularity contest and the award rarely goes to the best player anyway. Hence the Heisman curse is alive and well for the exact reason that the heisman rarely goes to the truly best player with last year being an exception. On top of all that its an individual award so who really cares? You don’t win a championship if a player wins a Heisman.

To Gatorman, the gators may be playing the best football of anyone right now. But they are NOT invincible. Just ask Ole Miss. Everytime a team gets hyped as a superteam that cannot lose they end up losing. Just ask USC in 05 or Miami in 02 when their 23 game winning streak and a 2nd straight nc went up in flames to a huge underdog in Ohio St. I could go on and on but everyone gets the point.

I agree with Tony on Tubberville. Its a shame that after one lousy season he is on the verge of being run out of town. He has had a career that probably exceeds anyone that’s every coached at Auburn including possibly Pat Dye. If he goes he would be a perfect fit at Clemson and he could take them to great heights in a hurry.

I can’t imagine where Fulmer would go if Tubbs ends up in Clemson but I do agree that Mike Leach’s style just isn’t going to fit in the defense oriented SEC at UT.

By Old GT Nut

November 12, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

More sad commentary from Mr. College Foot….uh…I mean…Mr. SEC.

Fulmer a fit for Clemson? Thats not a bad joke. Thats just sad. Why would Clemson want a HC (who is clearly past his prime) that was just canned from Tenn?

Tebow for Heisman? What an SEC homer?Tebow is a very good QB. No argument. But TxTech QB Harell is D-E-S-T-R-O-Y-I-N-G ALL OF THE NCAA QB RECORDS !!!! (as are the rest of the Big 12 QBs) Yet Tony cant even bring himself to mention him by name, or any of the other Big 12 QBs by name. So much for objective journalism.

As for Leach & TxTech, all Tony can offer is how awful TxTEch has been…in the PAST. No comparison how BAD Tenn & Bama have been in RECENT years. And how, Tenn wouldnt stand for Leach. Again, since Tony wouldnt dare stoop down far enough to give youu FACTS, I will.

Leach has done THE IMPOSSIBLE at TxTech. He has pulled TxTech off the scrap heap of the Big 12 and turned it into a BCS contender, with third choice talent. TxTech has to compete with TX, Tx A&M, and OK for talent. TxTech gets whats left after Tx, A&M, and OK stake their claims.

Again, Tony even grudgingly only mentions TxTech’s win over a VERY good OkSt team. But, he DARES NOT mention that TxTech beat #1 ranked TX two weeks ago.

See, the only way the SEC maintains ANY credibility vs. the Big 12 is to say…”oh those horrible Big 12 defenses that make it easy for the QBs to put up big stats” and how “the SEC is tougher because they have better defenses that dont allow such big stats.” Really? Where are those big tough SEC defenses. Not GA, or Tenn, or KY, or LSU, or Vandy. Bama doesnt even look that tough after barely beating LSU with an LSU QB that was GIVING THE GAME AWAY. Talk about being delusional. Where would Tony or the entire SEC be if LSU had beaten Bama? Hmmm? UF stands at better shot.

By Tony’s “Big 12” logic, Miami was only a good team in the 80s because they only played teams with bad defenses. The fact is those Miami teams DESTROYED opponents with a masterful passing offense that shredded many very good defeneses. FACT.

The Big 12 teams like OK, TX, TxTEch, OKSt, Mizzou, KS, are all doing what Miami used to do, using killer passing offenses. THE SEC HAS NO ANSWER.

I can only hope that we get some Big 12 vs SEC matchups in the bowl games, like TxTech vs UF and TX vs. Bama. That would settle it. But Tony doesnt want that. It would expose the SEC as the lesser of the two conferences, which it is.

By Miles

November 12, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Mr. Barnhart…five great points today…there will be nothing to disagree with today…unfortunately, I suspect Tebow will always be unfairly critiqued against his Heisman year…thus, it will be virtually impossible for him to win the Heisman twice…though, of course, he’s still the best player ib college football…

By John

November 12, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Tony goes over the top trying to protect and enable these older white guy coaches from the South. Exhibits A and B are his points on Fulmer and Tubby. Both continue to have good coaching minds but they are done as coaches because neither has (after many years taking their tolls, success and a lot of money) the drive anymore to get to the office at 6AM and leave at 10PM as is required of a head coach at a top-tier program. And, when you lose the drive and start to delegate, you get TN, Auburn and FSU-type situations. I suspect that as Tony has made the rounds across the Southeast, certain coaches have slapped him on the back and taken him out for a beer and made him feel like one of the guys so that they could use him as a PR tool for precisely these kinds of moments. You’ll never see Tony protecting Saban (not a butt-kisser and not from the South) like this because Saban’s not going to waste his time trying to make Tony feel like one of the guys — because he’s not.

By FLA DAWG

November 12, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Tebow does not deserve the Heisman this year. It goes to the Texas QB.

Auburn is crazy to fire Tuberville but if he is then he would be a great fit at Clemson.

Fulmer should just retire.

Who will we get to replace Martinez?

By Got 12?

November 12, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

This year, ESPN (and the national media) are in love with the Big 12 quarterbacks, so Tebow has little chance.

Tubberville looks tired, and there have been questions about his health. All that said, I hope they keep him for at least five more years. We, Bama, owe him a few. On that note, I’m sad to see Fulmer go.

Leach would be run out of Knoxville before he had the chance (3 or 4 years) to get his type of players in the program and fluent in his system.

By j.p sartre

November 12, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

to GTFOREVER……….you guys need to get the poker out of your a* ……lighten up!You must of had a stroke when Georgia celebrated their fist T.D against Florida last year!!

By TommyP

November 12, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

John: Most accurate post ever on this forum.

Tony Barnhart is part of the “good ‘ole boy network” in college football.

Tebow should not get the Heisman this year. I’m a Georgia fan and think he’s awesome. I respect him big time.

But give me a break about the Heisman this year.

Tony disrespects the Big 12 QBs by saying all the defenses are horrible.

Then do the same with all the “great defenses” in the SEC by pointing out the offensive futility of those same teams.

By Gen Neyland

November 12, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Taking nothing away from Tebow, but Colt McCoy is doing for Texas what Tebow did for UF, 2007…and will finish with a better record than UF 2007.

John Chavis and CPF’s options gotta be better than Dave Clawson’s…Tennessee is giving up an average of 18 points per game, but Clawson’s offense is scoring ONLY 16.0 per, UF’s scoring apx 43, giving up apx 12 per and UGA is scoring apx 33, and giving up apx 25 per…John Chavis has held up his end well enough.

By Ryno

November 12, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

You let Tennessee people decide whether or not Leach would be a good fit and butt out the rest of you. Leach might start slow, but that doesn’t mean he’d get canned like Phil did. Hell, Phil got to stay for ten years without winning an SEC title (East titles are weak runner-up things if you don’t win the championship game). The next guy doesn’t get ten years, IF those in charge have learned their lessons on this, but Leach would be starting with better talent believe it or not, than he did when he got to Lubbock. Plus, he’d be selling his exciting schemes to players who want to come to Knoxville and its’ 105,000 seat stadium rather than the smaller one at TT.
While it may take a couple or three years to right the ship, Vol fans would be patient with any coach who is putting an exciting product on the field, like Leach has done at TT. With excitement comes recruits, with recruits, comes wins, with wins, comes championships. If Meyer and Richt can win ‘em, so can Leach.

By 2N4YEARS

November 12, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

you said “It’s just my opinion but Clemson could use a coach like Fulmer to instill some toughness into that group of players.” Say WHAT????? Yeah, because the Tennessee players are showing such ‘toughness’ now??? And they call you ‘Mr. College Football’?? Maybe you should watch Tennessee play this year. Or better yet, get a different line of work.

By Dawg92

November 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Tony, How can you say Fulmer would instill “toughness” in Clemson’s team? His current players couldn’t even muster up enough toughness to take down a miserable Wyoming team Saturday! TB, I like your columns but you have a short term memory.

By YoungDawg

November 12, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Tony, Great blog today! Clemson hiring Fulmer would be a little better than Yabba Daba Dumbo but not much! On 680 yesterday, a Clemson fan told Buck & Kincade he’d rather have Fulmer than Tubberville. I just laughed anyone that knows the back story on Fulmer knows TN hasn’t been the same he ratted out Bama to in exchange for his own violations being waved. He & his staff can’t cheat in recruiting anymore! Those facts on that are in NCAA & court docs! In the aftermath of all that his top recruiter (Rodney Garner) left when he found out he was being used to get recruits interested then Fulmer & boosters would pay off the likes of Tee Martin without him knowing. So I think Clemson would be dumb to hire Fulmer just based on all of that due do the Danny Ford mess. If they do hire him then ole Fat Phil Foolmer can run another southern school that wares orange football program into the ground! Tubberville would be a GREAT fit if he’s available but they better move quickly because there’s rumors that: Mack Brown may retire, Charlie Wiess might get run, it might be the last call for Joe Pa, & Pete Carol may go to the Chargers or 49ers. Oh the coaching carousel could be spinning like crazy this year! Right now we’re all wondering who’ll get off it for Tennessee, Clemson, Washington & K State.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Tim Tebow is a genuinely good kid. The kind of kid you’d all like your sons to grow up to be. Add to that, he’s a gifted athelete and an inspiring leader and you have all the qualities, I believe, that a Heisman Trophy winner should have.

The fact that the defenses in the Big 12 are ranked so poorly is no reflection of Mr. Barnhart’s bias toward the SEC. They are lame! And I, for one, can’t wait for the Gator defense to crucify their QB’s. Our secondary and our pass rush will obviate their so-called amzing offenses and the sheer number of weapons on our offense will light them up!

By GatorG

November 12, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Another aspect of the weak defenses in the Big 12 that Tony doesn’t mention:

Because those three QBs’ teams OWN defenses are weak, they’re locked into a shootout for four quarters. They have to put up numbers like those just to win the game!

Tebow, on the other hand, gets taken out midway through the 3rd quarter.

Someone needs to figure out what those Big 12 QBs’ stats are through two and a half quarters so we can compare apples to apples.

By Payattention

November 12, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

GTnutforever- I guess you missed the part where Tony mentions that no Big 12 team has a D ranked in the top 50. Probably why he isn’t showing as much respect as you would like to Harrellk, or any other Big 12 qb.

By Rob

November 12, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Teblow is not deserving of even being mentioned in the Heisman race this year. Just look at the numbers! The only reason he is being mentioned is because the media is in love with him. He’s not the best QB in college ball this year, much less the best player. He dumps the ball 5 yards to Harvin, who goes 60 yards for a TD. That’s not Heisman material. Plus, his TD’s are way over-rated because most of them come on 2 yard runs up the middle. A Fullback playing QB is not Heisman material.

By Fleischman

November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

What about Whoshon? He helped the dawwwgs beat their two biggest opponenets this year: Alabama & Florida ? Oh wait…. no he didnt. CHOKERS!

By mark

November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Why is it that almost every single Heisman winner amounts to squat in the NFL? Is it because they have inflated numbers and aren’t really that good? Is it because they play in a gimmick offense that doesn’t translate to the next level? Seriously. Why is it almost an absolute, win the heisman, never here from you in the NFL.

By Spanky

November 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Tebow facing these great SEC defenses that regulalry give up 38, 49, 52 points. Give me a break. McCoy deserves the Heisman. Harrell deserves the Heisman. Tebow does not deserve the Heisman.

By JustMyOpinion!

November 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

The GT Nut made a good point. Maybe we view the other conferences as inferior because we live/support the SEC. The only way to really see is to wait and see how this thing plays out!

By Rusty Pecker

November 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

What about John Parker Wilson? He has lead his team to an undefeated SEC record (the only team in the SEC btw) He owns Stafford and he will own Teblow in a few weeks.

By hold em

November 12, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

at least the BIG 12 has offenses, hardly any defense or offense is played in the SEC this year

By GatorG

November 12, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Rob,

That “fullback” has a passer rating of 167. That’s the point - he’s as good or better than any fullback, and he’s an amazing quarterback.

Isn’t that the idea of the Heisman - to find the best all around football player?

By Atlanta Gator

November 12, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

j.p. sartre——I love that we now have an “existentialist” football commentator, but please try to keep your Marxist political beliefs from intruding upon your otherwise insightful sports commentary. : )

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Spanky:

No defense in the Big 12 is ranked higher than fiftieth! What part about that don’t you understand?

RP:

Sarah Jessica Parker? For the Heisman?

hold em:

Since the Ole Miss game the Gators have racked up nearly 250 points on offens and the defense has held their opponents’ points to fewer than 60 - that’s an average score of 50 to 12! Is that harldy enough for you?

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

And that was against #3 and #6, thank you very much!

By A football fan

November 12, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

First I think that Auburn would have a hard time with the $6 million buyout. Times are tough for those who make the huge donations. Fulmer spread his out I think because he never thought he would have to leave UT. He is a UT period. The Clemson job will be interesting but I dont think anything will be done until Muschamp decides where he is going. Leach to UT would be a career destroyer for him. He is loved in Lubbock and has a great situation. He win/loss record is only about 65% or so.

By lojak

November 12, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Attention bull-gator and any others who think Tennessee’s athletic director is trying to save his own job. You are uninformed—some would say rather stupid. Hamilton as AD just won the SEC all sports trophy last year. That is quite an achievement. I would say the ultimate goal for an AD. Of course, that news NEVER made it into the AJC—which to us Tennessee fans is certainly par for the course.

Look for Butch Davis to be the next coach at Tennessee

By Jerry Dawg

November 12, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

The reason Fulmer or possibly Tubby would be a good fit at Clemson is because they would probably be the best coaches Clemson could get. Nobody wants to touch that mess. I agree that T Bowden needed to go at Clemson, but the way that whole situation was handled, they will be lucky to get any decent coach.

As far as Leach not being a good fit at UT, I agree with that. I think the guy is an excellent coach and would be very successful at Tenn or anywhere else in the SEC. However, like someone said, at Texas Tech he can have 7-5 or 8-4 season and people are ok with it. He has a season like that at Tennessee and all of a sudden they are calling for his head. And given his personality, I don’t think he would be happy in that type of environment. Besides, at TTU he is in a state where there is MUCH better high school talent than if he went to Tenn.

And finally, on the subject of Tebow. While I think he is the best QB in college, I agree with the poster who said that Colt McCoy is more deserving of the heisman THIS YEAR. Either him or Graham Harrell, although Harrell has the luxury of having Crabtree, who, by the way, in my opinion is the player who should win the heisman(although I don’t think he will).

By Maniac is accurate

November 12, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Only a stadium with at least 105,000 seats can accommodate Phil’s girth. Sorry, Tony. And, is that Freddy Jones at the top of these posts the same Freddy Jones who was the UGA ticket dude, following a maddening stint as sports editor of the Waycross Journal Herald? Inquiring minds want to know.

By A football fan

November 12, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

lojak

I dont think Butch Davis would want to leave UNC. He is building a great program there. He got to take it from the bottom and do it his way. Do you think the UT fans/alumni/boosters would give him that kind of time. Money talks so if they do throw enough his way you never know. Look at Rodriguez leaving WVU

By Jerry Dawg

November 12, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

And on the subject of Auburn making a decision on Tubby before the Iron Bowl. Yeah, it is probably wise for them to do so for the reasons mentioned. The question is will they actually make a decision before then? My feeling is they won’t, especially if they lose to UGA. A win over UGA would make them Bowl eligible and they might decide that might be enough to save his job(given his past success). However,a win could also just buy him time to see what they do in the Bama game. Who knows what they will do on the plains. I think they would be insane to fire him and there would ten coaches ready to snag him up should they do so. (Tenn maybe?)

By hold em

November 12, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

G8R Grad, good for UF, only problem is UF is one team in the mighty SEC, what about the other 11 teams? The SEC is WEAK!!!!

By Rusty Pecker

November 12, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

John Parker Wilson, Julio Jones, Terrance “Mount” Cody, Rolando McClain and Glen Coffee have a better chance of winning a heisman than whoshon or stafford.

By gtforever

November 12, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Gator Guy, I have the utmost respect for TT, but come on, you don’t do what he did! That was just as dis respectful as the ABSURD thing that UGAY did a year earlier! It has nothing to do with emotion and passion for the game. It’s called CLASS.

J.p. , I didn’t have a stroke, but I couldn’t believe that Coach Richt would allow something like that to happen! I am fully aware that UTHUG UGA has NO CLASS!

By Fleischman

November 12, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Teblow’s girlfriend has HUGE cans.

By MountainDawg

November 12, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

“Tony’s Smarter Brother” - Good take on Tebow. He’s a class act & one of the best football players in the NCAA. Even as I Dawgs fan, I’d admire Tebow’s athleticism & tenacity (except when UGA players Flowerida). Stafford has a better arm, but Tebow’s the better athlete. BTW, PrYOr is completely overrated & hyped by the “Caste System”…Tebow is a **much better player/QB than PrYOr.

http://www.castefootball.us

By ClemsonDude

November 12, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Tony must really hate Clemson for that suggestion that Fulmer is a good fit at Clemson….come on Tony. This is the most important hire in Clemson football history. It’s do or die for the Clemson football program now because they need a knock out coach. Go Tigers!!!!!

By Bamafan

November 12, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Tebow is the best football player in college football today!! I still remember the day he picked between the gators and the crimson tide as which school to attend. That was a sad day for me. Bama got Greg McElroy instead of Tebow. McElroy will probably be the starter for the crimson tide next year!! The vols will get a good coach and if they get Butch Davis watch out!! Brian Murphy would be a good coach at UT also. If Tubby exits stage right Clemson would get a fine head coach and would very happy to see him leave Auburn!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

gtforever:

What Coach Meyer did was within the rules, period. What Coach Richt orchestrated wasn’t. Apples and oranges.

Fleischman:

And THAT”S the best reason to give him the award!

By yeehahpv

November 12, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Ok being a Texas Tech athlete and huge football fan i am going to be very very biased, but won’t let that cloud my points. First of all, everyone thinks that Mike Leach, if he came to Tennessee would automatically runt the spread offense, which he just could, but given how truly smart he is i am sure he could come up with another successful offense given whatever talent he had. Right now in my opinion the best player in college football is Michael Crabtree, however i don’t think he will win simply because of the drop off in his numbers from last year. As someone said Tebow can put the Florida team on his back and carry them when he needs to, but with a combined 12 players on the team that can run a 40 under 4.3 he should really never need to do that. Plus he obviously wasn’t strong enough to do that against a mediocre Ole Miss team. That is the main difference between Tebow, and McCoy, Bradford, and most of all Harrell. The games those quarterbacks have lost have been to eachother, Bradford lost to McCoy and McCoy lost to Harrell, who WAS strong enough to come back and win the game. I think Florida is probably the most talented team in the nation, but doesn’t mean they are the best in the nation. Alabama, Florida, and UGA are great teams this year, but other than that the SEC is lacking. Hopefully we will see a National champinship game and the Cotton Bowl to see at least the 1st and 3rd teams in the conferences face eachother respectively.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

MountainDawg:

I agree. I think Stafford’s arm is better (and I think he’ll make a better NFL QB). however, I think Tebow will also to well in the pros, but more than likely as a tight end.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

yeehapv:

Texas v. UF in the BCSGC (I don’t see y’all getting out of Norman alive this weekend, sorry).

and

OU v. Alabama in the Cotton.

Play on!

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Sorry Bama goes to the Sugar Bowl don’t they?

Okay, UGA v. OU in the Cotton.

Go Dawgs!

By Jerry Dawg

November 12, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Rhyno….I was unaware that people on a comment board stating their opinion was butting in and trying to have a hand in hiring the next coach. I was also unaware that anyone on message board had any real say on the hirings and firings at any school. I guess Tenn does things different than the rest of colleges (which might help explain part of the problem).

gtforever…..I think someone who makes posts refering to UGA as UGAY and UTHUG UGA (by the way none of these are even original), has any room to comment on anyone’s class.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Okay, okay, one more try.

UT v. UF in Miami;

OU and UA in the Sugar; and

TTU v. UGA in the Cotton?

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Too much coffee.

I need some lunch!

By Jerry Dawg

November 12, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

yeehahvp……….The thing with Cotton Bowl is that they select after the Capital One Bowl and have to wait after the Outback Bowl makes their selection if they want to take a team from the SEC East. So more than likely, you are going to get LSU(SEC #4) vs either Texas, OU, or TTU in the Cotton Bowl. LSU is still a good team, though, so you could get a decent matchup, but a UGA/Big 12 matchup would cause more intrigue.

By yeehahpv

November 12, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

G8R GRAD Yeah i don’t really see us winning either but can always hope. That being said if we lose i see OU jumping past us into a BCS bowl simply because they are OU and we would play UGA in the Cotton Bowl.

There are still many many scenarios that could work out. Honestly i hope to see florida lose before the SEC game and then win the SEC, with Tech and UT winning out and playing in the NC game. But that’s a 1/100 chance.

By voice of reason

November 12, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Doug, that was a pretty good way of looking at it. Imagine a Spurrier/ Fulmer grudge match every year again… only this time it’s a backyard brawl instead of a conference game. I don’t see it happening though. The bigger programs seem to be looking for younger coaches these days that will be around for 10-15 years.

By Atlanta Gator

November 12, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

My comments in response to Tony——

(1) Tim Tebow is a gifted athlete, a great college football player and, by all accounts, a pretty darn good person. Without arguing the merits of the various Heisman Trophy candidates (this year or last), let’s just say that Tebow deserves to be mentioned. Personally, if Tim continues to turn in his super-efficient QB performances, and his team continues to blow out its competition, I suspect that he will again be one of the three finalists. Like Tim, I could care less about the trophy if the Gators do well as a team.

(2) Tommy Tuberville (that’s one “b,” guys) is a very good college coach, and it’s a shame that his job is in jeopardy, but that’s the way of the world. Auburn has relied on top-notch defense for several years, as its offense has been mediocre to adequate. This season, the wheels have fallen off the Tigers’ offense. A head coach is ultimately responsible for the performance of his program, and must be accountable. Past program success is not always predictive of future success, and a judgment call must be made. We can all fulminate about the ridiculous influence of certain AU alumni within the AU football program, but the AU family will have to live with the consequences. Not the media, not the critics, not the fans of other schools. If and when Tuberville leaves, the program may or may not be better off.

(3) Sorry, Tony, but I respectfully disagree. Clemson football needs a messiah——either an established coach with a record of recent success, or a young turk, recently promoted from coordinator, who arrives with a plan. Either way the Clemson players and fans need someone in whom they can believe. Otherwise, look for the in-state rivalry and balance of power to quickly swing in favor of the Evil Genius.

(4) Maybe so. Certainly, Tuberville would be a better choice for Clemson than Fulmer. Fulmer gives off the air of a man whose time has come and gone. On the up side, both coaches have a closet full of orange shirts, as funnier bloggers than me have already noted.

(5) Mike Leach, combined with a strong defensive coordinator, would be a great pick for virtually any program. However, as Tony noted, he has yet to win a championship of any kind. Nevertheless, perhaps the more immediate question is, what makes you think Leach would want to leave behind his recent success in Lubbock? Only a very large pile of money, I suspect … .

By hhhhmmmm

November 12, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Why would Leach want to leave Tech… Have you been to Lubbock? I’d bet lots of money Mike Leach would love to leave that dust bowl of a town. And it’s not a big enough school to compete for recruiting in Texas. Leach has to find someone like Harrell that the others don’t want and then hope he’s a late bloomer. I think Leach would leave Lubbock in a heartbeat.

By GatorGuy

November 12, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

lojak

Tennessee won the all-sports trophy? Really? Um no, they did not…

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080519/NEWS/889646790/0/FRONTPAGE

By ribin

November 12, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

65-37 before the year? That is 63% - in a twelve game schedule, that is 7.6 - round up to 8 wins - wasn’t that the number that would’ add another year to Fulmers contact? Maybe Leach would be ok - with those expectations.

By Mike

November 12, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Contrary to most people on the planet, I happen to like Fulmer, think he is still an excellent coach and like Tony said, needs a very good O.C. and turn the offensive game over to him. I think Cutcliffe leaving hurt Fulmer more than we/he realized.

At Clemson, he would still be close to the SEC, play some SEC teams, be in an area where he knows how and can recruit, and put Clemson in a competitive position. He may even keep on playing Alabama since he has always been on their hit parade. I wish him well, even If I am a Dawg fan.

By Lojak get your facts straight

November 12, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

lojak

UF has won 16 of 17 SEC All -Sports titles including the most recent and 18 of the last 22.

As an Athletic program UT isn’t close to UF, No one is.

UF is also one of 2 schools in the country that have finished in the top 10 of the National All-Sports trophy every year since they started it 25 years ago. The other is UCLA.

Sorry brother those are facts.

By gtforever

November 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Jerrydawg, What do they say, “If the shoe fits”…… Everybody in the country knows that UGAG has NO class. Their fans are the WORST, and their football team is the most OVERRATED college football team year in year out! Get over it!

By mcdawg

November 12, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

what is the scenario for the dawgs making it to miami??

By gatormike

November 12, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Three weeks ago this blog was unindated withbarking Dawgs. It sure is quiet these days. Did they get muzzled in Jax? Go Gators!

By MountainDawg

November 12, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

gtforever - ….and we dominate your gawd-awful Bugs “year in & year out”…and this year will be NO different boy! Once again, some Techie Nerd is jealous of the Dawgs vast superiority. Face it punk, Georgia Tick is a 3rd rate program in a 2nd rate conference!!!

By godawgs

November 12, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

I disagree about Leach not being a fit at Tech. Texas Tech plays in the Big XII south and with due respect to the SEC (East & West), Big XII South remains one of the toughest divisions in division 1 season after season. Infact, the Big XII south has sent more teams to the National Championship game in the last ten years than either SEC East or West. They have also won just as many. Also, Texas Tech hasn’t finished fourth in their division since 2002 (Leach’s first year). Twice they have finished second and other times third in their division. They have been to a bowl game every year and have won most of them. Even though Leach had to settle for talent after Oklahoma and Texas have had their picks, things are changing. Increasingly, Texas Tech is getting better players and have caught up with A&M and certainly with OK and TX on the offensive talent pool. Imagine, what he could do with Tennessee’s reputation, tradition and resources backing him. Given a tough defense and a scary offense, couldn’t UT become a national championship contender year in and year out? I do believe they can.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

yeehapv:

Unfortunately there’s less than a 1/100th of a chance.

The bCS bowls rarely let two teams from the same conference play for all the marbles, and will never let two teams from the same division of the same conference do so.

Sorry, just not enough tv revenues to let it happen.

By Tom in Lawrenceville

November 12, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

I think Clemson should be interested in Bobby Johnson the Vandebilt coach and he in them.

Johnson is from SC, is a Clemson graduate and has done about all he can do at Vanderbilt.

But, if Fulmer lands at Clemson, at least he won’t have to throw away his orange sweaters.

As a Clemson graduate, myself, I would rather see Johnson or Tuberville go there than Fulmer.

By Barnhart blows

November 12, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Hey Einsteen,

SEC defenses are good because of the inept, poor-a* offenses in this over-rated league.

WAKE UP A*HOLES!! The Big XII is better THIS year.

SEC East UF: great UGA: good, but overrated (scared??) Vandy: rough USC: really rough Kentucky: zzzzz UT: don’t ask

SEC West: Ala: having nice year LSU: having down year Miss: joke Miss State: see above Ark: in transition Aub: don’t ask

Big XII North: Mizzou: great offense Neb: needs time KU: back to Earth K-State: lost season Colo: not ready for prime time I State: never ready

Big XII South Tex Tech: once in a lifetime year Texass: one drive away OU: the new Texas Tech?? OSU: lots of upside Baylor: still searching aTm: ugh

By lojak

November 12, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Gator Guy

I was speaking of the Mens SEC all sports trophy, which Tennesse edged out Florida by one point ( announced on May 20, 2008) Most of the time, guys talk about mens sports in this blog…guess Florida can’t win everything.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Back to the topic at hand:

In his last three games, Tebow has a QB rating of better than 200!

And has seven rushing TD’s - better than any one in the nation including tail backs!

By Anonymous

November 12, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

lojak:

You like boys, don’t you?

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Barnhartblows:

Let’s settle it on the playing field.

Oh, and good luck to your defenses - poorer performance than the top fifty squads in the nation!

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Oh, and another thing Barhartblows:

Seven of the defenses in the SEC rank above your best!

Good luck with that.

By Fleischman

November 12, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Alabama will defeat Florida in the SEC championship! Quit listening to ESPN you bunch of dummies.

By Last Word

November 12, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Fleischman:

And after the nice things you said about Tebow’s girlfriend’s cans!

Se ya Dec. 6th, beyotch!

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Fleischman:

I’m just worrying about playing the 3rd, and 5th ranked defenses in SC & FSU to get to UA (ranked 4th, by the way)!

If UF continues to hit on all cylinders, like we have been, we’ll see you in Atlanta.

GO GATORS!

By Richard

November 12, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Saying that Tebow has been great since Ole Miss is like saying George W Bush did a great job with hurricane disaster relief since Katrina. Doesn’t Ole Miss count (and Tebow wasn’t that good the first half of the season)?

The biggest difference between Tebow and Harrell is that Tebow has been great the second half of the season and Harrell has been great ALL season.

By G8R GRAD

November 12, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Richard:

Touche’

By Forrest

November 12, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Mr. SEC homer strikes again. What makes him think Clemson wants some SEC reject? I wouldn’t want him if I was a Clemson fan. Even Tuberville would give me pause. I would want someone who is coming in on a roll from another program. As for Tuberville kicking butt in the ACC, he didn’t do so well in two tries against GT in recent years and needed OT to beat Clemson.

I don’t see the national media saying much about Tebow being a Heisman frontrunner. The ACC has 5 Top 20 defenses, just like the SEC, but I don’t see Tony hyping an ACC player for Heisman. A Big 12 guy will get it.

By Homer Barnyard

November 12, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

What an SEC homer, hack. You have absolutely “0” credibility, “best individual performance I have seen by a football player since Herschel Walker or Bo Jackson”. WTF is wrong with you? When you sh!t does the turd start chanting SEC-SEC-SEC. You F-ing goof.

By The ACC is a joke

November 12, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Sorry Forrest, this is big boy talk. We’re talking Heismans and big time college football. Its not really the place for an ACC homer such as yourself. Its a little over your head. Maybe you should go over to a Tech blog and talk about how outstanding their 7-3 season is. That’s probably more your speed.

By the way, name a single ACC player that even deserves to be mentioned in the same breathe with the Heisman and I’ll give you a billion dollars. Have at it.

By LA Dawg

November 12, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Yellowblood: It’s about time someone has begun to expose the sordid history of the Genuit Tactus. Look forward to more discoveries.

By GatorGuy

November 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Barnhart blows It is Einstein, Einstein!

By Barry Sanders

November 12, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Hey Homer: …In 1988, in what has been called the greatest season in college football history, Sanders led the nation by averaging 7.6 yards per carry and over 200 yards per game, including rushing for over 300 yards in four games. He set college football season records with 2,628 yards rushing, 3,249 total yards, 234 points, 39 touchdowns, of which 37 were rushing (also a record), 5 consecutive 200 yard games, scored at least 2 touchdowns in 11 consecutive games, and 9 times he scored at least 3 touchdowns. Sanders also ran for 222 yards and scored 5 touchdowns in his three quarters of action in the Holiday Bowl - a game that was not included with his season statistics…

Tony your a F-ing Moron, you should jump off a bridge.

By Forrest

November 12, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

“Sorry Forrest, this is big boy talk. We’re talking Heismans and big time college football.”

What would the SEC know about big time football? They are 5-6 against other BCS opponents this year. Your rankings stem from beating up teams in your sorry conference. Meanwhile the ACC is 12-7 against BCS opponents and 3-3 vs. SEC. But Tony will never tell you that, I doubt he even knows it.

By Reggie Bush

November 12, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Hey Tony:

Bush had a terrific 2005 season winning the Heisman trophy…He led the nation with an average of 222.3 all-purpose yards per game and finished fourth in the NCAA Division 1-A ranks with an average of 133.85 yards per game rushing. He set the Pac-10 record for total yards from scrimmage in a single game with 513 (294 rushing, 68 receiving, 151 return)… Bush led the Trojans with 1,740 yards on 200 carries (8.7 avg) with sixteen touchdowns and 39 receptions for 481 yards (12.9 avg), including a pair of scores as a junior. He returned 18 punts for 179 yards (9.9 avg) and a touchdown and gained 493 yards on 28 kickoff returns (17.6 avg)…

In 39 games at Southern California, Bush started only fourteen times. However, he finished tenth in NCAA Division 1-A history with 6,541 all-purpose yards. He finished with 3,169 yards and 25 touchdowns on 433 carries (7.3 avg) and 1,301 yards with thirteen scores on 95 catches (13.7 avg). Bush returned 67 kickoffs for 1,522 yards and a touchdown, adding 559 yards and three scores on 44 punt returns (12.7 avg).

Best since who?

By jumbo

November 12, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Tony and everyone else too: Is it possible that OU could make it to the NCG w/out winning the Big 12 like they did in 2003? Consider this:

OU beats TT and Okie St. Texas wins out but goes to the Big 12 title game because they are slightly higher than OU in the BCS poll. Texas gets beat by Missouri. Missouri goes to the Fiesta Bowl. OU is 11-1 and finishes higher than Texas, 11-2, and TT, 11-1. USC wins out, is also 11-1, but OU has a higher BCS ranking because of their strength of schedule. Bama or UF wins out and plays OU in Miami even though OU.

If all of these games end up this way am I wrong?

Geaux Tigers!

By Jerry Dawg

November 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

gtforever………Again, you are the pot calling the kettle. You talk about UGA fans having no class, yet your posts show how little you actually have. And saying everyone knows this? That’s Tech speak for we think that and wish it were true, but because we say so, so does everyone else when in realty we Tech fans are a bunch socially inept number crunchers who have know clue about sports. Come out of the lab and you may learn something. And as far as being over rated every year, look at UGA’s preseason ranking vs their final season ranking under CMR and you will see more times than not, UGA finished higher than originally forecasted. You may want to do alittle research before talking about something you know nothing about.

By SC Rules!!!

November 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

SHANE#1,

Howdy pard!! Coach channels in with good thoughts and a reminder that all will get better not to worry. I am a little curious though, with ALL the injuries to the “O”-line, have the Dawgs had to pull any redshirts or move reserves from the “D”-line??? If that is the case how do things look as far as recruiting for next year go?? I know we’ve had a few dings here and there but thankfully nothing crippling. (so far) We will have about 28-30 scholarships to offer this coming Feb. though most are spoken for with committs. We will be signing several O’Line prospects and a few LB’s to start trying to replace Rey Rey & Cushing. Man they will be missed!

By GaGoOn

November 12, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

Richt would be a prefect fit at UTor Clemson.

By RAMDAWG

November 12, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

GT FOREVER -TECHIES LIKE YOU IS THE REASON WE LOVE TO BEAT GT SO MUCH.WE ARE UP TO 8 IN A ROW -BUT THIS IS SO MUCH FUN WE ARE GONNA KEEP GOING.THIS COULD GET GOOD - 15 IN A ROW 20 IN A ROW-WE MAY NOT LOSE TO YOU NERDS FOR THE NEXT 2 DECADES.

By Ben

November 13, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

I agree that Mike Leach isn’t a good fit for Tennessee. I don’t think they would have the patience for his personality, his eccentric behavior, and the incredibly tight and closed off program he runs. SEC teams have to be an open book, too many people insist on being part of the program but at Texas Tech, he runs a tight ship where it’s his way or no way at all. That mentality doesn’t work in the SEC. I’m a Texas Tech grad, I’ve watched every single game during his tenure, I’ve followed his team A LOT!

Also, don’t fall into the trap of thinking that he’s a miracle worker. Texas Tech wasn’t a bad team when he got there, they were a bowl team before he arrived, and they were a bowl team after he arrived. TTU is the only team in the Big 12 to be bowl eligible in each and every year of the Big 12 (since 1996), no losing seasons since 1993. Aside from 2005 and this year, he never really did much more than what his predecessor, Spike Dykes, was able to accomplish. Also, those who follow Big 12 football know that Texas Tech is really the #2 program in the state of Texas, behind the Longhorns of course. They get the 3rd choice of players behind Texas and Oklahoma, but they get better players than A&M or TCU, or Baylor. Getting 3rd choice players in a state like Texas is still better than getting the first choice in probably 45 of the 50 states.

By warhorse

November 13, 2008 3:25 AM | Link to this

By gtforever

November 12, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

TEBOW needs to stop cheer leading on the sideline. It’s sickening! He should have been penalized in the UGAY game! It shows a LACK of CLASS, and PLEASE, REAL football players don’t call cheers from the sideline! I mean all the way down to the 10 yard line cheering the fans on! Good Grief was has SEC football come to!

Tebow celebrating after leading his Gators to 42 points against the “best” team in the nation? Terrible

Next some bush league program aspiring to play with the big boys will flood the field after merely scoring a single TD against its dominating rival.

By blaine

November 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Tony in the words of Will Muschamp, “Stats are for losers!” Have you ever stopped to think the SEC defenses are ranked so high because most high schools have more effective offenses. Tebow for the Heisman, are you crazy! Crabtree is obviously the best player this year, but then again the SEC is the best at everything, right………..

By Brent

November 13, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

I can’t stand obviously bias articles. I would love for this idiot to start spitting out the names of the QBs in the SEC??? Maybe the offensive rankings??? Did defenses stop the option when offenses started running it??? The point of the spread is to cause one-on-one matchups and create space. If you know anything about college football this would be why you wouldnt just say there is no defense in the Big 12. The reason the spread wouldnt be effective in the NFL is because there are too many GREAT players. In college football there are a limited number of GREAT players on each team (especially shut down DBs)

By Nathan

November 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

There’s no defense in the Big XII, yet a few paragraphs later Leach has a “pretty decent defense.” Which is it? For all of this talk about SEC defensive superiority over the Big XII, consider this: OU (#51 total def.) allows 80 yards/game more than Alabama (#4 total def.) Is 80 extra yards really enough to outscore that offense? A team will get 6 or 7 points out of 80 yards, max.

By Brett Frankel

November 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Tony, please stop drinking the Jimmy Sexton kool-aid. Everyone who knows southeastern football knows that Jimmy does not want to lose a hold of his Tennessee kingdom. Your analysis of Mike Leach is completely incorrect; as you fail to consider the success that he could have with the type of players that can be recruited to Tennessee versus those that can be recruited to Texas Tech. Quite poor form on your part, and obviously biased. Stop the nonsense!