Mr. College Football

By GIT

October 21, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

UGA doesn’t desrve a BCS bid at all.

By Bob

October 21, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

So basically the moral of the story is the BCS royally farks up almost every year but they only “tweak” it when USC is the victim. Got it. Thanks Tony.

By Spanky

October 21, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Oklahoma wins out while the three teams ahead of them lose; USC and Ohio State win out, leaving the three teams 1-2-3 with OU #1 but not winning their conference and USC/OSU unpopular picks in any matchup.

By GentlemanDawg

October 21, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

GIT,

Why the hell would you make an ignorant comment like that?

By m

October 21, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

The BCS is the ABSOLUTE WORST SYSTEM ever concocted. It is appalling that the powers that be are so STUPID as continue to force this despicable system on us. We need a 16 team playoff. It would be the most exciting sporting event ever. To emphasize how bad the BCS is, it is as bad as having Chan Gailey as a coach. Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever. And we will ALL Thank God the day that the BCS goes with him.

By leifj

October 21, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Because GIT is a loser Tech fan whose team will soon start losing when they play real teams. Oh, I forgot that the ACC doesn’t have any real teams. I hope the Techies are ready for the annual beating from the Dawgs. Going to be 8 and counting come November. Let’s see that Perfect Option. Your program, stadium and fans are all second rate. You will always take the backseat to the Dawgs in this state!

By JB4UA

October 21, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

USC DOES NOT need to be in the conversation for the National Championship game!

By Jack Mehoff

October 21, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

GIT…..I don’t think that UGA was ever a part of Tony’s scenarios. Go back to sleep.

By Bama hater

October 21, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Whatever the scenario, lets hope that it involves Bama getting left out. They don’t deserve any shot at the NC. The Clemson wins looks like a joke now; therefore, they have only played 1 Top 25 team. For whatever reason the voters love Bama so after 1 big win they get ushered straight to the top of the polls. Then after squeaking by 2 unranked teams, they get handed the NC without even playing for it. Nice work voters, way to keep an objective opinion in your voting privilege.

By Got 12?

October 21, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

For all the griping and whining, the BCS is better than the old iron clad, bowl tie-in days. Back then, assuming the top three win out, none of the top three would have played each other.

With a couple of tweaks (1. you have to win your conference to be get to the championship game 2. +1 to determine the championship game teams), the BCS would be pretty good.

By Jon

October 21, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Two possibilites of a team that doesn’t even win their division of conference being ranked in the Top 2. Will voters push them down in the final poll just like they did with Georgia last year? Most likely is Oklahoma, they win out, probably get by USC on quality wins but need Texas to lose twice to win South. But probably would pass Texas in BCS with 1 loss. The other is Alabama. What if Tide lose by FG in Baton Rougue and win out. East champion could easily have 2 losses (UGA loses to LSU on road but beats Florida and beats LSU in the title game). That leaves the question, who is ranked higher, Georgia or Alabama and we know what the Tide will argue? It could happen.

By Miles

October 21, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

There’s still tons of football yet to be played…

By Eric1

October 21, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

No problem with numbers 2, 4 and 5.

By Chris

October 21, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

We need a plus one game. Other than that, the real travesty will be when Notre Dame finishes 9-3 with the weak sisters they play this year, and then they get into a BCS Bowl game.

By Chris

October 21, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Here’s one for you. What if Tech wins out, including a big win over a top 10 georgia team in Athens. Then they win the ACC. They would be 12-1 and would have won 9 straight. If that scenerio plays out they would have to be considered as playing some of the best football in the country. I know it’s a little bit of a stretch, but as long as our national champion is based on opinions and not head to head competition, Tech would have as good an arguement as anyone. Triple option in the BCS championship game. Just thinking about it makes georgia fans cringe.

By Supes

October 21, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Plaoffs, playoffs..don’t talk about playoffs…but we have to BCS is the worst system ever devised to solve a simple problem…crown the national champion in NCAA football.

Top 8 team playoff is needed. Take the winners of the big six conf. plus the next 2 at large top teams and you can still have all the “bowls” you want (with everyone else)

By SC Rules!!!

October 21, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Besides shane#1 & bamafan and a couple of others I fail to see the rational that most of you try nad lay down day in and day out in this blog. It should come down to #1 vs. #2 PERIOD! No SEC this or BIG 12 that or whatever excuse. If USC isn’t in either of those two slots then by all means they DON’T deserve to play for the NC! The SAME goes for y’all crying in your soup sandwhiches!!! If the polls say that ‘Bama & Texas are 1 & 2 then they play if the polls say it is OU & USC then they play. It isn’t perfect but then this is all about perceptions and “judgements” (ahem) so until they settle it on the field we’ll all have a gripe or two. Before y’all start puffin’ up for your sisters: facts are facts, NOT ONE TEAM in the country wants ANYTHING to do with Southern Cal come Bowl time. We have the best record the past six years running (5-1:ALL in BCS bowls) Sorry Big 12 don’t even start, and yes SEC even you don’t compare! Don’t hate what you can’t beat! Fight On!! SoCal rules; bug infested swamp rats drool!!!!!!

By EB

October 21, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

The BCS operates like a syndicate. There should be a 16 team playoff for the so-called major conferences just like all the other levels have. Determine the champion on the field, not in the board rooms or the country clubs. A playoff system should have already been in place since at least 1980. Stop the BS of the BCS or any other illegitimate non-playoff system. Surely the students, the alumni, fans and universities would be very accepting of a playoff rather than having a champion decided by sportswriters and a computer.

By Gary

October 21, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

My doomsday scenario is that Georgia wins out, but by less than 10 points each game so as not to impress the voters. They beat Alabama in a rematch for the SEC championship, but a 1 loss Southern Cal and a no loss Penn State play for number one because they were not challenged by a conference championship game. By the way, Georgia is already ahead of both those teams in the computer rankings now, despite their lower human poll ranking. Explain how a team that beats the last 2 national champs and wins the toughest conference doesn’t play for the titile?

By stendec

October 21, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

JUST AS LONG AS THE OHIO STATE SUCKEYES ARE OUT OF THE MIX!

By Charlie

October 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

BCS Doomsday Scenario = NO PLAYOFFS.

The BCS is doomed because there is no Div-1 playoff. It is a sham of a system. One day, the good and right of this world will win out over the greed of the BCS stakeholders, and we will have a NCAA Div-1 football playoff.

I hope it happens before I die.

By AWM

October 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Too bad Southern Cal never plays a real SEC team. Granted, Southern Cal is a great team…I just wish they would play a harder schedule. Pete Carol is running a great program down there, but they need to play some better competition..even in BCS bowls.

By SecIsFootball

October 21, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

BAMA Hater….So, if BAMA were to run the table in the SEC and win the SECCG (Not saying it will happen), do they then deserve a spot or will at that point, all of the teams we beat be overrated? Did you ever think that maybe the reason the voters have UA at #2 is because they are the only unbeaten team in the best conference in the country? I have no idea if UA will end up in the BCS game but if they run the table, I would love to hear your arguement against it other than your personal hatred for Alabama.

By Dave-SD

October 21, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

The BCS only produces uncontraversial results when BCS #1 and BCS #2 are…

AND no other BCS conference team has the same number of losses as BCS #2 AND both #1 and #2 won their conference AND no non-BCS team has put up a resume that suggests they might actually belong in the title game (2004 Utah is the only one of those to date)

It’s somewhat surprising that this has actually happened three times (1999 FSU-VT, 2002 Ohio State-Miami, 2005 USC-Texas).

By DAP01

October 21, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

GIT does not get the intent of the discussion.

The season is not over. UGA, if it wins out will deserve a BCS. The same is true for many other teams.

GIT should actually read the article before discussing.

By KNELSON

October 21, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

The playoffs start this weekend. If your team is in the top 10 with 1 loss and you lose you’re out.So if you’re a Georgia fan go to ebay and begin looking for tickets to any bowl in Florida and you will be ahead of the game.

By stendec

October 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Few ACCEPTED systems are justifiably reviled more than the BCS. BCS actually stands for Better Colleges Suffer because if you ain’r the West Coast USC or Ohio State you ain’t nothing!

By Atlanta Gator

October 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

My observations du jour in response to Tony’s topics——

(1) Unfair to Joe Pa and his Nittany Lions, no doubt, but this could be the best thing that could happen to the long-term aspirations for a FBS/Division I play-off. The Big Ten, Pac-10 and the Rose Bowl are the biggest impediments to the implementation of a plus-one, 4-team or 8-team playoff, and Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany has vociferously led the opposition. Until the Big 10 teams feel the pain (i.e. no more BCS championship game bids for overrated Ohio State teams), there will be no playoff. Sorry, Joe.

(2) Alabama and Nick Saban have reached nearly the same level of media sweetheart status as Southern Cal and Pete Carroll. This is a good Bama team, but I think they are still a year away from being the team they could be. Frankly, given their youth and relative inexperience, somebody is going to upset the Tide this season … it’s only a question of whether it happens in the regular season, SEC championship game, or the BCS championship. A one-loss Bama probably falls out of BCS contention. If it happens, that’s not unfair, that’s just the reality of late-season losses.

(3) If a one-loss Southern Cal team gets a BCS CG bid, with the weak Pac-10 schedule they have played, that would be a real injustice, but I don’t believe it will happen. The BCS computer polls will punish USC for its schedule and reward the Big XII and SEC schools for theirs. A 13-0 Bama or Texas will not be leap-frogged by USC, and a one-loss, SEC champion UGA or Florida will likely surge past the Trojans.

The Pac-10 deserves to feel some pain, too, for their self-serving opposition to a Division I playoff. If they don’t like be left out, the Pac-10 can implement a conference championship game (Utah and BYU would make great additions to the conference), and drop their opposition to a playoff.

(4) Yeah, the real injustice would be an undefeated Utah or Boise State team being left out, while a 2 or 3-loss ACC or Big East champion gets an automatic bid. Life ain’t fair, and the current BCS is a compromise that only the BCS bowl directors love.

(5) Sorry, Tony, but a third Big XII team being left out of the BCS bowl line-up does not qualify as an “injustice.” Among Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, there are still plenty of football games left to play. After the remaining regular season games and the Big XII championship are played, I seriously doubt that more than two of the Big XII teams will remain in the top 10. Same scenario for the SEC.

BTW, I have no problem with the Big Ten and the Pac-10 working to preserve their Rose Bowl traditions. If a 10-2 Buckeyes team gets the final BCS bid and a Rose Bowl invitation, so be it. I do have a problem with the way their little 3-way coalition continues to thwart a a real Division I playoff to the detriment of stronger conferences. A pox on all their houses!

By bamafan08

October 21, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Bama will not get left out if they go undefeated, Tony. You know better than that. They will have beaten Clemson, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, and probably Florida. Not to mention Ole Miss and Kentucky who are headed for bowls. Penn St. will have had 1 win over a top 25 team…maybe 2 if they are lucky. Under that scenario (not saying it will happen), Bama will be ahead of Penn St. Period.

By goober

October 21, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

No team that gets a free pass from the physical and mental pressure and wear and tear from playing in a conference championship game should be allowed the opportunity to play in the national championship game. Yeah, this means you, Southern Cal and Penn State and Ohio State.

Explain this logic, poll voters, because the objective computer rankings don’t have to: The highest ranked one-loss team, Oklahoma, lost to a higher-ranked team, #1 Texas. The second-highest ranked one-loss team, Southern Cal, lost to a nobody (Oregon State) who had and still has a losing record. The third highest-ranked one-loss team, Georgia, lost to a higher-ranked team, #2 Alabama.

There is a reason the computers ranked Southern Cal 10th and Penn State 7th.

Even the NCAA National Fart Competition teams have a playoff.

By Dave-SD

October 21, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

AWM, I suppose 2005 and 2006 Arkansas, and 2002 and 2003 Auburn were fake SEC teams? Despite 2006 Arkansas winning the SEC west, and Auburn winning 9 games in 2002 and 8 in 2003?

Okay. I guess Penn State and Michigan fans should declare Ohio State a fake Big Ten team by that logic.

The fact is that USC plays a much toubher non-conference schedule than any SEC team almost every year, because they never play I-AA teams, only rarely play non-BCS/ND teams (and when they do it’s almost always BYU, Utah, or Fresno State), and always schedule a game against someone that’s at least been above average fairly recently (and play them on the road when they’ve got ND at home). And while this year may be an exception, the Pac 10 is usually the toughest conference by most statistical measures (the Pac 10 played by far the toughest nonconference slate of opponents this year, so it’s not too surprising they lost more games than anyone else). And with the Pac 10’s round-robin schedule, they can’t luck out and avoid anyone (Alabama skips Florida this year, lucky them).

By hold em

October 21, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

SC Rules!, You said to the Big 12, “Sorry but don’t even start.” What did you mean by that? Last time I checked TX beat USC in the 2005 NC. And TX happens to be a Big 12 team, sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about!

By Chicagodawg

October 21, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

GIT has a B.A. from Auburn, a Masters Degree from Flordia, and a PHD from Tennessee. Tells you a lot about their graduates.

Clearly someone who thinks the AJC “pulls” for Georgia in it’s coverage and all it’s articles, regardless of topic.

By JB

October 21, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

GIT: UGA may not deserve to play for the title, but TECH will never…..ever……be mentioned in the conversation ! First of all, it’s the ACC. Will never be asked to the party, even at 13-0. Secondly, it’s TECH, where 7-8 wins is big and you don’t go bowling on a blue field in 10 degree weather. That offense will never, ever go 13-0. Ever. Athletic defenses will stop it. Just Ask the DC at power house Gardner Webb !

By JB

October 21, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

bamafan08::::::::: Agree. If they left you out and put Penn. St. in, the Fix is more than in. Tv and press love Big 10 and Pac 10. Elitism I guess. Dawg Fan.

By KNELSON

October 21, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Tennessee plays as tough an out of conference schedule as any team in the country year after year. Tennessee has no issue going to the West coast every year. Recently it has not been in their favor but none the less they walk away from No one. Hell in the past 5 years they have done home and aways with Notre Dame , Miami of Florida. In addition playing California home and away as the 1st game. UCLA home and away. In 2010 they play both Oklahoma and Nebraska as well as UCOnn.

By Mony

October 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

By CrimsonRedScarlett

October 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

One thing to keep in mind is that many people in academia do NOT want the football season running over into the Spring semester or Winter quarter. A playoff would require moving up many games to earlier in December, whcih would then conflict with finals at many schools. 
Here is one more possible, but unlikely, factor in the major bowls.

If Oregon State keeps winning the Beavers will get the automatic PAC-10 bid. Try this one for head-scratching. Penn State beats Ohio State, but winds up by blowing the final game against Michigan State. At the same time, Minnesota, which does not play PSU this season, wins out. This could result in a three-way tie in the Big Ten.

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Again all we read in the sports pages is something about this rediculously illigitimate BCS “Beauty Contest System” in college football. It is just a very political beauty contest to get certain teams into a bowl game they laughingly call a national championship game. Sportswriters and fans please do as I do and give this absolutely no discussion or mention at all and finally maybe somebody will realize that people are not buying this junk anymore.

There is no division 1 national champion, never has been, and I don’t want to hear some bunch of idiots trying to claim there will be one this year. When a fair system is developed for teams to play for a championship we can talk about it. But until that happens just enjoy the games because their is no and will be no division 1 champion again this year.

I hear so much about this or that conference is better. Just take the conference champions and play it off for a championship or shut up about it. After all the bowl games are played we have a pretty good idea who the best teams are but don’t have a clue as to one champion so please don’t try to force feed me one. After the bowl games are played give all the top teams a championship trophy or have a playoff.

I know college football well and have followed it closely for over forty years. I am from Wyoming and don’t have any favorite teams but just enjoy the games so I can make choices with no bias. After the bowls I can usually narrow it down to about four top teams. Last year it was very easy and didn’t take a genious to see that after the bowl games Georgia and USC were far and away the two best teams in the country but we had no way to put those two together and see who the champion was. This year after the bowls who knows who it will be. But don’t force feed me two and call the winner a champion!

By murfdawg

October 21, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

This is like looking at a stripper with all her clothes on. The tease is there and the excitement is there. So sit back and enjoy the show. Every week will get better and better, depending on your point of view. It will all come down to the top two teams. Whether they are the two “sexy” teams the sportswriters want, we will have to wait and see.

By Erk

October 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Since the BCS beauty pageant is going to be used as opposed to a playoff, you’ve GOT to have a championship game for the Big 10 and Pac 10. If their old time board wants to have their prestigious Rose Bowl every year, by all means let’em have it and everybody else will play for the real championship.

By mcdawg

October 21, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

i think that #3 is the most likely scenario but we will see after USC travels to Tuscon

-these high octane offenses perform very well when facing average defenses not sure how meaningful these big scores are -case in point is Mizzou and tend to think Texas and OK but we shall see

-if anyone is getting screwed right now has to be FL

By Wait a week

October 21, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Everyone just needs to calm down. First of all, IF Penn State beats Ohio State on Saturday, USC loses the only big win it’s hanging it helmet on. IF Georgia loses to both LSU and then Florida, Alabama then loses its only big win (so far). So for either Penn State or Alabama to make it to the NC game, they have to go undefeated. Any loss kills Penn State. A loss against LSU (the only big game left) for Alabama and weak showing by Georgia kills Alabama. Just because of the media/heisman hype, there will be a Big 12 team in the NC game…guaranteed. So if you don’t want USC or Ohio State to come anywhere near Miami, start cheering for Penn State, Alabama and Georgia! GO LIONS! ROLL TIDE! GO DAWGS!

By rockmsockm

October 21, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

I hope that the SEC, Big XII and Big X champs are undefeated. I’m also pulling for Utah, Boise State, and Ball State. I am for everything that exposes the BCS for what it really is: a blackeye on the face of sports.

Can anyone dispute that the NY Giants won the NFL Championship? What about the Detroit Red Wings Stanley Cup? Then there’s the Celtics, are they the champs? Are Bill Self’s Jayhawks legit champs? No one can dispute any of these champions because the playoff system legitimized their victories. Does anyone here think that UGA deserved a shot after they manhandled Hawaii? Well, they and many other deserving teams (“BCS” or “non-BCS”) will NEVER get that chance.

Think about the “non-BCS” for a second. As “non-BCS” schools they are the only group in all of sport that has to prove that it belongs to a group that it is supposedly part of already. Any team from DIII, DII, FCS and BCS-FBS have the opportunity - if they win their conference - to play for a national championship; why shouldn’t “non-BCS” teams?

Until we get rid of the BCS we will never have a legitimate D1 football champs - it will always be a paper championship and nothing more.

By TrueCrimson

October 21, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

The majority of these hypotheticals will work themselves out over the next few weeks. Even if we had a full-blown playoff system, we still wouldn’t know, beyond any reasonable doubt, which team is “the best”. Any football team can lose one game on a given day.

Is Oregon State a “better” team than USC? Is Ole Miss a “better” team than Florida? Miss State has improved with every passing week. Could Georgia Tech demolish them again? I don’t know. No system will ever be perfect. Winning a championship will always involve a component of luck.

As for my favorite football team, they only need to win all of their remaining games and they will stay at the number 2 spot in the BCS rankings. If they do this, then nobody is going to convince me that they didn’t earn their spot in Miami.

RTR!!!

By DON'T FEAR USC

October 21, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

You all fear USC. You say that they don’t deserve to play no matter what the scenario because they lost to Oregon state by 7 points; they beat #5 Ohio State by 35 and #20 Oregon by 35+.

Don’t start your BS, you fear the Trojans. The have played in 6 BCS bowls and they are 5-1, with 1 loss to Texas by 3 points (NCG). You all know they are the BEST BIG GAME TEAM IN THE NCAA.

It’s ok to fear what you don’t understand; but the only way you will overcome it is to face it.

The Best scenario would be that USC wins out. Texas, Penn, and OU all lose. The SEC Champ plays USC for the NC. That would be the best game to watch, and would settle this.

The PAC 10 is weak; OK we have heard that 1000000000000 times on this blog, we get it.

USC isn’t weak. Year after year they put quality teams on the field as does LSU, Florida, UGA. It’s time to see the SEC’s best face USC , than we’ll know.

By PTC DAWG

October 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

I loathe this system…

I’ve said it for years, it was mentioned above, take the 6 BCS Champs, and the next two at large teams, use the current BCS poll if need be, and let them PLAY…

And to the person who said GT wouldn’t be in the mix at 13-0, I beg to differ. Not that that will happen any time soon, but who saw OK ST so high?

The differences in schedules is alarming, compare UGA/UF to USC? It’s not even close.

By shane#1

October 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

As long as We are playing what-ifs, suppose Bama and Texas both stub their toes somewhere, or UF or UGA win out, all are possible, then OSU beats Penn St. What teams will play in the BCSNCG if the Pac 10, the Big 10, the Big 12, and the SEC all have one loss champions and Utah remains undefeated? Then,just for the hell of it, throw in a one loss ACC team. Conventional wisdom says that the SEC and the Big 12 are the toughest conferences so their teams will play for the coveted glass football, right? Not so fast their skippy! THe human polls count for 2/3 of the BCS formula and every coach has a vote. That may be the scenerio that brings about a playoff, but probably not, since controversy creates intrest, and intrest generates ad revenue, which garners more TV money for the Universitys. That is what this is about gentlemen! We may be fans of our respective schools, and so are the university big-wigs, but they are bigger fans of money!

By stendec

October 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

To all the Southern Cal groupies on this blog: Let the fabled Trojans switch schedules with an SEC team! PICK ONE! I guarantee the overrated California raisins will tote no less than three (possibly more) defeats! Have a nice day! Oh, by the way, UGA lost to a team now ranked second nationally (should be at top of heao). Who did those wonderful Trojans get upset by again? Uh huh!

By stendec

October 21, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

One more thing. Same old BCSshet! Same on human voters!

By Hunk Erdown

October 21, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

The only way we ever see a playoff system is for the darlings (USC, OSU, etc.) to get hosed for a few years in a row.

The BCS powers that be saw that this could happen and tried to make sure it wouldn’t by changing the system in 2003 to make human votes count for 2 thirds.

It was obvious last year that USC should play UGA but what happened? The system was watered down with both teams being forced to play inferior teams. Oh they tried to hype both the rose bowl and sugar bowl with a bunch of non-sensical what-ifs, but it was a joke. Just like the bcs is a joke.

By Bama hater

October 21, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Seclsfootball,

My true hatred is the unjust favor Bama and other media darlings receive. Many teams have been screwed in the past 10 years, but let me just pull out the old dead horse and kick it one more time. Auburn 04 starts off around 14 or 15. They beat 5 Top 25 teams including 3 Top 10 teams and had to claw their way to the top all season only to get as high as #3 before the bowls and finally #2. Bama starts off at 24. They beat 2 teams (1 of which I dicredit) and they get an automatic #2 spot! They have 1 regular season game left against a Top 25 team and then the SEC CG. You cannot deny the power that voters have is ridiculous and totally biased towards media darlings.

So to answer your question: If Bama keeps sneaking by the rest of the unranked teams on their schedule and go undefeated, no I do not think they deserve a shot. They do not deserve to be the #2 team now and they are showing it by barely beating unranked teams, but the media loves ‘em so here we are.

By stendec

October 21, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Here is the phoney BCShet poll along with where they all should ACTUALLY be ranked:

Texas (#2) Alabama (#1) Penn St. (#3) Oklahoma (#4) USC (#15) Oklahoma St. (#8) Georgia (#5) Texas Tech (#7) Ohio St. (#24) Florida (#6) Utah Boise St. (#9) LSU (#10) TCU (#12) Missouri (#13) South Florida (#11) Pittsburgh (#17) Georgia Tech (#14) Tulsa (#18) Ball St. (#19) BYU (#21) Northwestern (#20) Kansas (#22) Minnesota (#23) Florida St. (#16)

By stendec FU

October 21, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

This BS about switching to the SEC makes you feel good, but it’s impossible. USC is 4-0 against the SEC this century. They cannot change conferences any more than UGA could. They do regularly play much tougher OCG than UGA.

It’s easy to talk sh!t. If the SEC champ and USC play than we’ll know. USC can be beaten, certainly any team can. But they don’t get beat often and they don’t lose by much. look at the record.

So rather than talk hypothetical’s and trash, I want to see the game we should have seen last year, UGA v USC in the NCG.

O’ by the way you played Alabama they were # 8 and they beat you. USC played #5 Ohio State, ate their lunch and stole their lunch money.

Georgia has a strong schedule; only you lost your first game against an ranked opponent, and you still have to play the games that make that schedule strong.

Raisins? What do you like fruit? Don’t you get enought peaches?

By stendec

October 21, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Left out Boise St. My bad. Kick Ohio State down to 25th behind the Boise boys.

By --Cartoon Championship

October 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

L.S.U. WON THE MYTHICAL BCS CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER lOSING 2 GAMES TO KENTUCKY & ARKANSAS.—The system is sorry. Get rid of the cupcake games on the schedules and have a playoff like every other sport.

By Frank

October 21, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Its real easy to TALK about how dominant and great USC is when they have never played the best of the best from the SEC. It is not their fault and I applaud them for traveling to SEC country. The Big 10 sure doesn’t have the balls to do it. However, it is what it is. Of the 4 wins USC has against the SEC this decade none were against the SEC Champion or a top 10 team. That is just a fact. So we really don’t know how USC would fare.

Another thing that gets lost on the USC drones is that you cannot single out one game in a vacuum. Its not as simple as saying “If USC lined up with SEC team X on any given Saturday they would beat them.” No doubt that USC could give any team in the SEC a run for their money. But what about when they had to play another SEC team the next week? What about the week after that when yet another SEC team was on the slate? What if they had to play a conference championship game against a Top 25 team? To provide just one example, Georgia is playing the past two national champions on consecutive weekends away from home. Does USC have to deal with that in the Pac 10? Of course not. Not even close. Its just not the same. I mean they couldn’t even beat Oregon State after a week off. I have my doubts about whether they could survive an SEC schedule.

USC is a great program but I have never been willing to proclaim them the team of the decade. We don’t all drink the media kool aid. They still have some things to prove. Again, not their fault. Its just the way it is.

By Old Gold

October 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

After all bowls are over, final bcs comes out and One plays Four, then Two plays Three. The two winners duke it out in a true national title game. Easy enough. 3 extra games. How hard is that?

By stendick

October 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

What Ohio State has 1 lose, and that was to the #1 ranked team.

Doesn’t that mean they are better than UGA, buy your standards?

O’ forgot you have that tough schedule you are going to be playing soon.

By Beavers Chew up trojans and spit um' out

October 21, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

The University of southern CAL —weak schedule,-weak team,-weak conference!

By Fleischman

October 21, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

hey bama hater… did u notice the 41-30 win over #2 UGA a few weeks ago. Go back to the ALLBARN message boreds loser.

By stendork

October 21, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

How many did the Div 1AA team score on you?

Well at least you lead the nation in penalties, and player arrests. Hum, Maybe they are related, ya think?

By SecIsFootball

October 21, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Bama hater….I mean no disrepect but to say the media loves UA tells me you dont watch a lot of football. The media has hated Nick Saban since those dreadful “I will not be the Alabama coach” words. However, regardless of how you view Clemson, they were top 10 and they are loaded with talent. The fact their coach could not, well, coach has discredited them so I dont totally disagree with you. We also went in and spanked UGA in their own house. That was a pretty impressive win over a still top 10 team. The only excuse I can come up with for the poor perfomance against Tulane is the let down after the big win over clemson. The poor performance against Kentucky I have NO excuse for. As for Ole Miss, they did go into UF and win. They are a decent team that is in the 1st year of a HC. Much like BAMA last year, they get close but cannot walk away with a win.

As for the #2 ranking, I have no idea if that is right. Seems the only team deserving is Texas and then after that, who knows. BAMA deserves a top 5 ranking because they are the only undefeated team in the SEC. However, for teams 2-5, I am sure I can find reasons why all of them should or should not be #2. In the end, if UA wins out (which I dont think we will), they will be in the BCS game regardless of the current #2 ranking. The BCS HAD to have learned their lesson from the AU situation in 04 and it wont happen again. They will not put an undefeated Penn State team in over an undefeated SEC team simply based on the fact that Penn State really only plays 1-2 ranked teams. But like I said, I dont believe UA will win out so you can rest easy.

By BS Frank

October 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Auburn was #6 in the nation when they lost to USC at home, and one of the Arkansas teams won 10 games the season USC beat them.

So, maybe you don’t drink the kool-aid but you must be drinking something; unless of course your just running your mouth?

By Wrecker1

October 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Bamafan08, whether Bama gets in or not it won’t be b/c of wins over Clemson, Tenn, and Auburn. I believe Bama has a good team but I think they will have a really hard time winning out when looking at their play of late. I’m not real sure who all they have left but beating Tenn. and Auburn (neither are very good this year) will be tough just b/c of the rivalry factor. Really what Division 1A needs is a play-off. There is no way a play-off hurts the other bowls. I don’t mean a 4 team play-off either b/c a highly ranked loser in a conference championship will get shafted. Someone raised a good point about GEORGIA TECH. If they win out in the conference, beat Ugag (which could be ranked really high or drop some depending on the next month), and then win the ACCCG, TECH will have a 10 game winning streak. You never know what will happen, but if the SEC and Big 12 take turns knocking each other out, Ohio St. beats PSU and then loses to Michigan, where will we be.

By rockemsockem

October 21, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

True Crimson: Don’t get suckered into thinking that BCS is good enough… it’s the greatest travesty in all of sport. There is a clear difference between a playoff system and and the BCS. The BCS relies on a small group of journalists, coaches and a computer formula to put together the “two best teams”. A playoff system allows athletes to fight it out on the field against each other and thereby legitimizes a champion. Appalachain State is a champion, LSU is not. That doesn’t mean that they’re not a great team, it means that the SYSTEM didn’t allow them to prove it. There is no such thing as a D1 Champ, not now, not ever, until they implement a playoff. Additionally, just because a team gets hot or lucky doesn’t diminish the fact that they won out, so don’t confuse that with imperfection (the BCS).

By BravesFan79

October 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

I hate to say this… as i grew up rooting for the Crimson Tide, but i hope AL gets SCREWED… just like Auburn did. Because i dont care for Saban, and i especially dont like AL’s stance AGAINST a playoff system!! Lets see how quickly they change their mind after getting screwed….. Face is…. college football will always be a JOKE of a sport until they make changes and have a REAL champion.

By Gen Neyland

October 21, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Hello fellers. My ‘puter croaked a couple weeks back, leaving me adrift in high seas without a rudder. Hope everything is going everybody’s way…course it’s always 50-50 from the outside looking in…shane #1 & EMRBG I lost all email addresses. Be good sports and send me a note to my email address so I can get to you behind the scenes. And no, we don’t have PC’s at the Waffle House…

By bhamwreck

October 21, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

SEC fans: if you want the voters to consider the SEC has won the past 2 NC’s thats fine, but then the voters should also remember Bama had a 7-6 season last year and got beat by La. Monroe. The best quality OOC victory for the SEC this year so far is UF beating Miami. Thats basically it. Ariz st. is 2-4 and Clemson is 3-4. If Bama continues to struggle yes they should be jumped by Penn St. if they win convincingly and they probably will (and should).

By Bama hater

October 21, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Fleischman,

Yeah, I did notice that game. I was there! But my point is what else has Bama done? I have since watched them sneak by several unranked teams. Pay attention red neck, I am not arguing the validity of the UGA win. It was a well played game by Bama, but I am arguing how the voters justify vaulting them up in the polls after one game while so many other teams prove themselves each week only to get beat by somebody’s opinion. Though I have a hatred for Bama, my anger is now directed at the absurdity which surrounds their being placed at #2 with so little accomplishments on the field.

SeclsFootball,

Your last sentence sums up my argument. Penn St. only plays 1-2 ranked teams; well Bama only plays 1 more ranked team (4 total including the SECCG). Now that Tenn. and AU have fallen off the radar their schedule is weakened considerably, but the voters will give them the invitation simply because they are Bama!

By Miami Dolphins.com

October 21, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

I WILL NOT BE THE ALABAMA COACH -The truth and nothing but the truth-

By Orkin man

October 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

The ACC does NOT deserve a BCS berth this year. That would free up a spot.

And this just in…Tech still sucks.

By pennsylvaniatide

October 21, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

OK football queens:

All the top ten are awesome—so quit the bickering—-any final two will be a great match and be happy to have them duke it out on the BCS Championship Game—that is what it is, by the way—not a National Championship game. The trophy says BCS Champion——so just accept that. Now— Texas is awesome—unless you don’t really understand a true football power when you see one. However, no team can withstand the stretch the Horns face: First Oklahoma, then Missouri and next OK State—no way to win a trifecta. OK State may well be the best team in the USA. I refereed several games Dez Bryant ran over the state of Texas—and he is the most incredible talent I have ever seen in 40 years. Oklahoma then beats OK State. Result: Three Big 12 teams with 1 loss. Penn State is great team but looses to OSU in the horseshoe. OSU and PSU with one loss. Alabama must win all to stay in the mix—could loose to LSU and then there are two teams with 1 loss in the SEC (Two 1 loss teams face off in the SEC Championship). Where does that leave us—Southern Cal versus YOU PICK from 8 other one-loss teams. Did someone say a playoff system? Look—until the FANS demand it——boycott and raise enough He—about the BCS system, the NCAA will not change the format to decide the nation’s best team.

Final comment: USC versus Florida will be the result. OK, OK State, Tex, AL, OSU,PSU, OSU. Wow, what a year. If anyone could run the table—they deserve the glass football. Have a great football holiday season.

Pennsylvaniatide!

By Frank

October 21, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

BS Frank, Auburn lost 5 games that year and didn’t even finished ranked. Lots of teams blew them out. So that leaves one game against any SEC team worth a crap: 2006 Arkansas. Big freaking deal. You won’t find me bowing down to the Trojans because of one game. Arkansas was good that year but, like I said, they were not the SEC Champion and not a top 10 team. What I said was 100% true. Its called a FACT. Look it up in the dictionary kid.

I’d like one of you USC drones to explain to me how a team that lost to Oregon State after an off week could go through the SEC unscathed. The floor is yours. Your big talkers so this shouldn’t be hard.

By Eddie

October 21, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Why do UGA fans harp on USC and the Pac-10? Did you forget you played Georgia Southern and Central Michigan?

By Dooms Day Starts in Texas

October 21, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

all those highly ranked big 12 teams have rosters filled with previous texas high school players. guess even the computers are correct; the best high school football is played in texas.

By NO MORE BS

October 21, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Ok, the SEC is a tougher conference THIS YEAR than the PAC 10. But don’t try to claim anything more than that. here are the facts.

Question:

What is the record between the PAC 10 and SEC?

Answer:

The PAC 10, from 2000 to 9/17/08, leads 10-6 62.5% and leaving out LSU and USC the PAC 10 leads 6-2 75%.

So please stop the bu!! sh!t.

This year the two conferences are 1-1.

By USC VS SEC

October 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

According to College Football Data Warehouse, after the 2007 season USC’s all time record against the SEC is 17-10-1

Better Yesterday, Better Today, Better Forever.

By G8R

October 21, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

I don’t care what the BCS standings say, the Coaches’ Poll (AP) is correct: UF should be ranked #5.
Regarding the BCSCG: The winner of the SEC ought to play the winner of the Big 12, period, two losses or not.

By GTinNashville

October 21, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

We could probably solve all this simply by forcing all BCS conferences to have 12 teams, and thus a CCG. Even if you dind’t do a plus one in the BCS, you would have a final quality game to vote on who will be in the NCG.

By USC BEST OF DECADE

October 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

AP concluded that LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma and USC are the four top programs this decade.

USC has six BCS bowl appearances. No one has more, although Oklahoma also has six (the Trojans are 5-1 in their games; the Sooners are 2-4).

USC has two national titles. No one has more, although LSU also has two.

USC has six conference championships. No one has more.

USC has three national title game appearances. No one has more, although Ohio State and Oklahoma also have three (the Trojans are 2-1 in title games, while the Buckeyes and Sooners are both 1-2).

By #bamafan

October 21, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Hey Bamahater, all of the teams look overrated after they been b*** slapped by BAMA (this includes your beloved dogs) The only thing I do agree with is that they will be better in the next few years. There is always …..next year…woof RTR

By NEED MORE FRANK?

October 21, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Frank read above. Now it’s your turn, how about you showing me some proof any SEC team could beat USC.The only common opponet this year has been ASU. USC scored more and held them to less. Their best RB sat against UGA, and their quaterback was benched (injured) against USC.

Loadmouth.

By GTinNashville?

October 21, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

You can’t even get you conference coaches to agree on a playoff for the NCG, now you want to FORCE CCG’s on everyone else; who the f%&k put your in charge?

By SAV'H DAWG

October 21, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Upset of the week! UT beats Alabama in Knoxville on Saturday night. It happens every year in the SEC. I’m the first to admit that the Tide put a butt whipping on my Dawgs, but you Bama fans are looking to far ahead. This UT team is very good defensively.

By Pitbull

October 21, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it. The human voters stack the odds towards Southern Cal and the Big 10, even if their teams do not wind up in the title game.

They have no regard for the other conferences and there are more voters in the midwest, pacific coast, and northeast than other areas of the nation.

I would like to see the SEC, Big 12, Big East, and the ACC tell the BCS to stick it in their ear and then pull out of the BCS.

Then the BCS could just hand out a Rose Bowl Trophy every year to the Rose Bowl PAC-10 / Big 10 winner and the BCS would lose whatever remaining significance it has left.

The 9 other conferences’ teams and independents would all be equally eligible for the top two teams to play for a College National Championship CNC title in the Orange Bowl.

It would be based strictly on a computer analysis based 50% on the strength of schedule and 50% on win - loss record basis. Totally objective.

Everyone else from all 11 of the conferences and independents would be free to play in whatever other bowls extend invitations.

By Pitbull

October 21, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Didn’t Bama lose to Louisiana-Monroe last year?

Don’t crow too soon.

By RT

October 21, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Bring back the “good ole days”. 1) The polls are a matter of opinion and are scewed by conference and regional prejudices. (Remember Uconn a couple of years ago, its right next to New York City and ESPN in Bristol, they got way too much love in the polls). 2) Your best chance at a national championship is to play in a crappy conference so you only have to win one or two tough ones a year and come into the bowl with a healthier squad than a team that played a tough schedule (I’m talking to you USC). 3) There are over 100 teams that play only 12 games in the regular season. 90% of the teams don’t play eachother. You can’t make meaningful rankings without head-to-head play. 4) I loved talking about ALL the bowl games when a big win in one could knock a higher ranked team out in another. Now, only the NC game matters, only fans of the teams playing in them care about the “lesser” bowls. 5) I only care that my team wins their conference and beats our rivals. If I wanted to see a “true national champion” I’d watch the Pro’s. 6) Who thinks that the playoff system in the NFL produces the best team winning the championship? Do you think the Giants were better than the Patriots, Cowboys, etc? Don’t try to make college ball into pro ball!!!!!!!

Eliminate the BCS and go back to the old, somewhat random but far more interesting affiliation system.

By athensdawg

October 21, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

the BEST doomsday scenario

BCS continues to

Be Continually Stupid

for the next 5-10 years until certain college presidents retire and common sense takes over.

By G8R

October 21, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

A plus one system (requiring ALL conferences play a championship game -PAC 10 and Big 10 included!) is surely the next logical step.

By matt6buckeye (acworth, ga)

October 21, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Just wanted to pass along this not-so-unlikely “doomsday scenario”, which would take place entirely this Saturday:

Texas beats Ok. State at home (easy enough so far)

Alabama loses at Tennessee (Its a rivalry game, so throw the records out the window, and this could be the game that saves Tennessee’s season/Phillip Fulmer’s job)

Ohio State beats Penn State in the ‘Shoe (like clockwork)

Oklahoma loses at Kansas State (come on, its Oklahoma here. The season wouldn’t be complete without one unexplainable road loss)

USC loses at Arizona (the Trojans’ toughest remaining game, and, like Oklahoma, they’re a completely different team away from home)

Texas Tech loses at Kansas (see where I’m going yet?)

Georgia loses at LSU (why Georgia fans are so blind to Matt Stafford’s utter mediocrity is beyond me)

So we wake up Sunday morning staring squarely at a Texas-Ohio State national championship? Beautiful if you ask me, depressing to the point of near suicide for the whiny, unbearable, loathsome fans of the SEC (and seriously, who is a fan of a conference? That’s borderline retarded.)

I know what you’re thinking here: what about Florida? They’d still be ahead of OSU in the polls. Yeah, they’re way ahead right now, but OSU is so far ahead in the computers, the ground would be tough to make up. The computers would treat wins over Georgia and LSU (again in the SEC champ. game) as much as wins over Penn State and Northwestern. Look it up, I’m right.

By Pitbullsh!t

October 21, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

…Let’s face it….. Blah blah blah blah.

Let’s just face your a* west so USC can kick it back to the trailer you fell out of.

You uGAY fans whine on about all the reasons you haven’t won anything in 28 years (or is it 29 now), you ask how someone can make a claim about this or that; than when the proof is delivered you either ignore it or refuse to look beyond your bias.

For the record; if the Dogs win the SEC championship with only 1 loss, I absolutely agree they deserve a title shot. But you have to win the games first, before you lay claim to something you haven’t earned.

In 2003 the BCS overlooked the Trojan’s, but rather than cry about it for 28 friggnin years, They kicked the sh!t out of Michigan in the Rose bowl and took what was rightfully theirs A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

To the tard that said earlier, “they aren’t National Championships”, call them anything you please, USC has 11 and we call the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!

By G8R

October 21, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

matt6buckeye: Heresy. How can you look yourself in the mirror? OSU can’t win - be it against Texas or Florida. And until you institute a championship game in your otherwise talentless conference, you don’t get to play in any BCSCG because you play one fewer and much tougher game than the SEC or Big 12.

By matt6buckeye is right

October 21, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

One of the first things I noticed when the BCS ranking came out was Ohio State with 1 loss 5th by the computers, USC with 1 loss 10th. And the Ohio state loss was to USC.

Who said they would do it compltely by computer?

By the Way ugay fans, the computer put Ohio stae in front of uGAY.

By Hey Dummy (G8R)

October 21, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Just a mention Dumb Sh!t. Nobody has played in more BCSCG’s than Ohio State.

(they are 1-2)

By goober

October 21, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. College Football … here’s a suggestion: Next time don’t even bother writing a column. Just open your name up with a blog platform and let the readers have at it! After a few blogs, no one stays on point to what you write anyway. It quickly disintegrates into a blogger-insult-blogger match.

Like I’ve said before, one blogger insulting another is like two souls in hell arguing over who is the less sinful.

You must be laughing your butt off at how easy sportswriting has become … just write anything at any time of the year about college football, and out come the ranting compulsive obsessive psychotic lunatics (including me). It’s like throwing a piece of flesh into a pond full of piranhas. By the way, a piranha is a voracious carnivorous fish, for you graduates of the Univ. of __ (take your pick)!

With this economy, these crooks on Wall St. and in Congress, and Obama as president, thank God for sports.

By G8R Moron

October 21, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Don’t you read?

By PI$$ on a DAWG

October 21, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Athens Clarke County Inmate team goes 10-2 but can’t get the SEC CHAMP to play them for the RING. CMR is mad he can’t coach both teams for a chance at the SEC EAST title.

By stendec

October 21, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

SEC fans are not the only ones who WANT the Ohio State Yuckeyes out of BCS contention. Every college football fan, regardless of conference affiliation, is sick and tired of seeing a superior (laugh here) unbeatable (giggle here) OSU group go bellyup in the championship showdown. TRANSLATION FOR OHIO READERS: Have their jocks handed to them. IN PIECES! Happens every time the Yuckeyes face somebody worth a damn. USC ring a bell? Zebras had to cheat (BIG TIME) to gift-wrap national title for Yuckeyes against Miami Hurricanes. Shrug if you will. Hell, everyone knows. Even honest Yuckeye followers!

By MrWrestling#2

October 21, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

I really prefered the old way (pre BCS) when the SEC went to the Sugar, Big 8 to the Orange, Big 10, Pac-10 to the Rose and the old Southwest Conference to the Cotton. The ACC and the Independents were sort of free lancers. In this system every New Years Day game meant something. If one team lost here and another team one somewhere else it could shuffle things. Now only one or possibly two of the major games means anything at all.

By Got 12?

October 21, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Let me see if I’m understanding this correctly:

1. Bama is ranked number 2 in all the polls
2. Bama is undefeated (which several teams are) with 5 or 6 games left to play
3. And Bama has beaten two, top-team teams away from home (which no other team has)

…and some of you are whining and crying like they’ve been awarded the BCS National Championship trophy with playing another game?

By Bob

October 21, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

USC fans sure are talking alot of smack for a team that is currently 2nd place in the Pac 10.

By Will

October 21, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Big Tone,

Unlike most of these comments before me…I will answer your question. My biggest doomsday scenario is SC getting to the championship game regardless. They were trounced by Oregon State@ home and then played a pathetic regular season schedule. But the clowns at ESPN are already moving them up every week trying to get them into the big game. I don’t get it. Also, if UGA wins big for some reason this week do you think they can start to get their names back in the title hunt again as SC has done? Or do you think its probably over for my Dawgs.

By G8R

October 21, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Hey Dummy (G8R): And your two losses were to an SEC team, right? STFUB!

By PI$$ on a DAWG

October 21, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

CMR how many CLASSY Knee GAs does it take to make an SEC East Champ? Well, after 10 arrests not htat many right? HAHAHA Yor are a CLASSLESS LameCOCK. Talk s**t to mom & dad in the livingroom and let the BIG DAWG EAT in ATHENS. JAIL is the UGA REALITY with a handout Degree as a side order. “AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE”—Uga diplomas for players. I love WEAVER D’S.

By G8R

October 21, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

NO TEAM that plays in a talentless conference, without a championship game, should be allowed to contend for the National Championship, period.

By stendprick

October 21, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

I see your back. You’re so typical. Jealous because the suckeyes won a title during this century. They must have cheated.

Just crawl back into the trailer and see if little sis is up to another game of bury the little miner.

By We're Waiting Bama

October 21, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Frank says, “Its real easy to TALK about how dominant and great USC is when they have never played the best of the best from the SEC. It is not their fault and I applaud them for traveling to SEC country. The Big 10 sure doesn’t have the balls to do it.”

Hey Frank, I don’t see a lot of invitations from any SEC teams to play the Big Ten. In fact, Penn State was supposed to play Alabama 10 years ago and Alabama curled up in its own butt and POSTPONED until 2011. The Lions are waiting!!!!!

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Yes, the old bowl system is much better than what we have now! What kind of idiot would quote the AP on who the best teams of the decade are. They based that on illigitimate national championships that locked the other deserving schools out of the game. You guys can check but I don’t think LSU is even the best team in the SEC this decade. Look at SEC archives, I think Georgia is. Last year I went back to 1976 and Georgia is the winningest team in the SEC since then. Georgia Alabama, Tennessee. I saw a couple weeks ago where CBS went all the way back to 1936 and it was still Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee. Any year this decade I could easily pick three teams in the SEC that would have waxed Ohio State and Oklahoma. They just never had the speed/talent guys to compete. When Ohio State beat Miami in about the worst matchup ever early this decade Georgia would have easily blown out either team that year.

I am not a Georgia fan although last year they, USC and all of college football got screwed by not pairing those two powerhouse teams. It would have been one of the best games ever.

Right now I am not ready to jump on the big 12 bandwagon. Everybody thinks Texas is loaded by beating Oklahoma and Mizzou. What I saw were teams with very poor defenses in shootouts that could not compete in a championship game against SEC type defenses.

To all this USC talk. I live out west and get to see them all the time. They are for real with speed and talent on both sides of the ball. I think they get bored and lose a game on occasion. They have not played a good SEC team for years in a game that meant anything so no comparisons can be made. The last was a home and home against Alabama and they split. Coach Bryant got coach McKay to agree to that for a reason. Both were very smart men. Sam “the Bam” Cunningham did more for desegragation in the south in three hours than all the politicians did in a hundred years.

By Hey Will

October 21, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

First- If UGA wins these coming games against LSU and Florida, and the SECCG they are right in the middle of the NC race, no doubt. They need either Texas or Penn State to lose.

Second- USC got beat at Oregon State not at home. They lost by 7 and where a failed OSK away from a chance to tie, that doesn’t qualify as trounced. If they win the rest of their games they will need some help to make the NC.

By Bob you big Dummy

October 21, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

The PAC 10 is tied up. If USC wins out the win the conference.

By andrew

October 21, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

PSU and Bama lose to get pushed back behind Oklahoma. TX finishes the regular season undeafted only to lose the title game. This pushes them to third and puts Oklahoma vs a one loss USC team in the BCS title game. Easily could happen.

By PTC DAWG

October 21, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

IF anyone is listening, there is a reason you don’t see many/if any Big10/SEC regular season matchups. We are both stuck in LONG term contracts with the CapOne and the Outback Bowl. Too much chance of a rematch in a meaningless game.

I don’t think either is scared of the other. I will say that Michigan still owes UGA a return trip from our visit in ‘65. :)

By PI$$ on a DAWG

October 21, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

It must be 1980 and #34 is now #24 and the DAWGS will still need Georgia Tech do do the hard work inorder for UGA to get a National Championship. The DAWGS couldn’t win any Championship (SEC east, SEC, or National) without somebody doing the hard work for them. TECH did it to ND in 1980 to allow UGA to get in the GAME. DAWG, DO IT OWN YOUR OWN you self licking fat butt ugly a$$ DAWG. ring….ring….ring… this is the Athens-Clarke County Jail can I speek to Mark RICHT? Yes, we have your football team in Jail what are you going to do about this? We only have room enough for 3 FAT A$$ KNEE GAS. If your players can spell their names we will give them BOND. The only problem is that COACH MARK RICHT you need to send US spellings of the KN*GGAZ NAMZZ.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

I didn’t even have to read this article to post my comment on the BCS. Just remove the “C” and you’ve nailed it on the head. It smells awful too! If UGA wins out and beats Alabama in the SECCG, UGA should play for the title. NO QUESTIONS ASKED! o s who, USC, and Penn State should not be mentioned because they play high school teams 90% of the time. The system would be better if they had let the computers decide who has played a formidable schedule and performed well with it. But wait, that didn’t sit well with USC in 2003 did it? We can’t have that can we? F@#% USC, o s who, and everyone else in those weak a$$ conferences. Until we get a playoff that includes at least 8 teams, we’re screwed as fans because those a*******holes are always going to look good playing Jonesboro High School. I mean, for crying out loud, how is Utah and Boise State in this conversation? I would LOVE to meet someone face to face and let them look me in the eye and tell me that either of these schools deserves to be ranked in the top 35 realistically, let alone 11th and 12th. This is BS!!!

By Kent N

October 21, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Question? Why is Ohio State even mentioned? They have never EVER beaten an SEC team , they are 0-13 against the SEC. Therefore reguardless of how many BCS games they have played in the only ones anyone remebers are all of those they got their tails KICKED! Next , why is it Ugaly wants to go through all of the Senarios of how they could back into a NC game? Year after year, if this and if that happens then we can go ( Always in need of a gift). The playoffs start this weekend. Every top 10 team that gets a loss from here on out is out. Oh and that would include you to Ugaly, No exceptions. Im sure with 3 losses you will still be in maybe Homerville!

By Bullschlitz Bullsh!t

October 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Here’s the quote you’re trying to steal. (plagiarize)

Jerry Claiborne, a Bryant assistant, said, “Sam Cunningham did more to integrate Alabama in 60 minutes than Martin Luther King did in 20 years.”

There was a fictitious story about Bryant taking Sam into the Bama locker-room; that never happened.

If you research it you’ll find Bryant already had African American players on the team, they were to young to play under the NCAA rules that governed at that time.

By matt6buckeye

October 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Hey at least I stayed on topic. Look I’m not some delusional Ohio St. fan, I just think its funny that all of your worst nightmares could come true as early as this weekend.

By BIGBEE

October 21, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Leifi, you may be right about our program, stadium and team being secound rate, but you forgot one important thing— You personally have some moving to do just to get up to second rate. I would say you are 4-5-6 rate, just one notch above or below GIT.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

PTC DAWG, I beg to differ on the big 10/SEC scenario you just mentioned. Why in the hell would a big 10 school want to play a SEC team in the regular season when they can play a cupcake schedule and still find their sorry a*******es in the NCG? The SEC has a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH harder schedule each year playing our own conference, yet when we lose a game or two to our brother teams, we’re supposed to be inferior to a one loss o s who or Penn State. Go figure. The sooner it’s settled on the field, the sooner everyone outside the SEC can STFU! FOR GOOD!

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

A DREAM scenario: UGA wins out, get’s redemption for our only loss this year against Alabama in the SECCG, and o s who wins out and we get to embarrass them for the third consecutive year. 0-10 vs SEC, chumps! Let UGA have some of that WEAK, little 10 s@#%!

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

We’re Waiting Bama, you are delusional if you think PS has anything for Alabama. Too bad we have to wait three years to settle that one! I respect PS for wanting to play a real team in the regular season though. I’ll even go as far as to say that any of the top six SEC teams could beat the breaks off of the big 10 champ, anytime. The biggest reasons? You play nobody all year and so you’re overranked come year’s end, you lack speed and defense, and you’re not battle tested until the SEC beats your a*. I’ve seen it too many times not to believe (know) it!

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

I said before the season and still believe the winner of UGA-FLA and UA-LSU game will meet in the seccg and the winner should play in the BS championship. One loss teams from the sec should be in because of the number of quality opponents they face during the year plus a championship game. I would take the winner of the UGA-FLA game against any undefeated team in the country and that includes Alabama.

Alabama will not sneak up on UGA again. If that game had another quarter or a few more minutes Georgia would have won. Alabama clobbered Georgia 4 td’s and a field goal first half. Second half UGA came back as great teams do and did the same to Alabama. The game has four quarters equally important and if they meet again expect more of the second half and not the first. Georgia’s talent will take over after the young line matures just as it did last year. I am not a fan of either team but I know talent when I see it and also emotion. At championship time talent overcomes emotion. All Georgia needs to overcome is the horendous play calling and game management of their OC. If FLA gets hot they can wax both of them though.

I live in Wyoming and watch the Wuss Athletic Conference all the time. Guys we can’t compete with you down there and I don’t want to here about BYU or Utah getting in the BS game. It would be Hawaii-Georgia all over again!

By Red Elephant

October 21, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Auburn, as well as the SEC, got robbed in ‘04. If Alabama wins out they go…period….We are like a Brooks Brothers suit…..a classic that never goes out of style. Still, if Bama can’t win it, I would pull for the SEC team (hope it is UGA). Don’t blame Alabama for being a name brand. That is what you get when you win championships over and over and over and over and over……

By My 2 cents

October 21, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Point by Point 1. Penn State gets left out: If Texas and Alabama go unbeaten they deserve the game, let Penn State go to the Rose Bowl and USC can put a whoopin on them.

1. Alabama gets left out: Hmmm, well they need to beat Tennessee by a bunch.

2. Southern Cal gets in, 12-1 SEC champ gets left out: Now we hear the SEC whining, just win and you don’t have to worry. If USC keeps winning big, than this could Happen. But I don’t think it’s in the bag.The SEC champ will look real good to the voters.

3. Utah or Boise State gets left out: Let’s hope so. Does anyone think these guys can beat, Texas, Alabama, Florida, USC, Georgia, OU, Ohio State?

4. Big 12 gets hosed again: If no Big 12 team goes undefeated I don’t see a problem with the SEC winner playing a 1 loss USC for the Championship. The Big 12 teams don’t have any defense that compares to USC.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Red Elephant, I can certainly respect that post as well as Bullschlitz’s. I’m obviously a diehard Dawg fan but I have always respected Alabama and their tradition and I hope we get another crack at you guys in December. But whomever the SEC champ is needs to play for it all. Bullschlitz, it’s nice to see someone from another region of the country judge all of this BCS garbage with some good common sense. Thanks!

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

I don’t know who the gutless wonder is attacking me up there because he is not legitimate enough to give his name. I made the quote and didn’t take it from anyone. The current Miss State coach was on the team I believe and he stated the event you mentioned never happenned also but I don’t know what that has to do with the price of tea in China. I didn’t mentiuon it. You are obviously a dumb little kid and you don’t want to get into a college football discussion with a person of my age, knowledge and stature.

Coach Bryant could not go out and recruit or play black players like he wanted at the time and that is fact. After USC clobbered Alabama in Birmingham all that changed and I will stick to my quote and facts.

By Red Elephant Robbed?

October 21, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Because the a*******whooping USC put on OU was so complete I won’t argue that Auburn would have been a better opponent. but don’t be mistaken. The 2004 USC Trojans were one of the very best college teams in history. Auburn may have been a better opponent, but USC was so good in 2004, and they were 100% during that game, maybe a closer game but same outcome, USC wins.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

My 2 cents, why so much love for a USC team that got beat by an unranked Oregon State? As far as I’m concerned, USC’s out of the picture no matter how bad they beat the rest of the teams on their schedule. I do believe that USC has a very good football team, but I also believe that USC has a very easy schedule and yet they still lay an egg to a nobody. How can you put them in the ncg under these circumstances?

By Big Dawg

October 21, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

The fact is that USC plays a much toubher non-conference schedule than any SEC team almost every year, because they never play I-AA teams, only rarely play non-BCS/ND teams (and when they do it’s almost always BYU, Utah, or Fresno State),

Dave-SD you must be kidding because I seem to remember USC playing the mighty Idaho Vandals and I believe they are a Division 2 team.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Red Elephant Robbed?, not so fast. OU is notorious for horrible showings in bowl games. Does Boise State ring a bell? Auburn had something for USC or anyone else for that matter with Caddillac Williams and Ronnie Brown in the same backfield and a stellar defense. My money would have been on Auburn in a close one.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Big Dawg, you’re right on because their (USC) overall season is still a joke. One or two good non-conference games to go along with a pitiful pac-10 schedule still isn’t saying much.

By Bullschlitz Still BullSh!t

October 21, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

It’s not your quote you f-ing tard, it was Jerry Claiborne’s. Here are the facts about the locker room story and the proper citation. (Author and publication)

You misquote something as well documented as that , then get bent out of shape because you get called on it.

I would think somebody of your age and obvious statue would take time to research something before you claim it as your own, you thief.

From: BEAR BRYANT’S BIGGEST SCORE

By Allen Barra for American Legacy Magazine, the magazine of African-American History (Winter 2006), pp.58-64

“The legend persists that Bryant went into Southern Cat’s locker room, shook hands with Sam Cunningham, and proceeded to take him into the Alabama locker room, where he announced, “Gentlemen, this is what a football player looks like.” Bryant did go to the USC locker room to congratulate Cunningham, but the rest is fiction: The Alabama players didn’t need to be told that the Tide had to integrate. It was the die-hards in the university administration who needed the message, and Southern Cal had delivered it dearly and forcibly.

What Alabama fans didn’t yet know was that Bryant had already crossed the color line. Sitting in the stands that day was the university’s first black scholarship player, Wilbur Jackson, who watched as Sam Cunningham, in Bear Bryant’s words, “did more to integrate Alabama in one afternoon than Martin Luther King had in years.”

By gus

October 21, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

we want another crack at Alabama

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

I am afraid it will be PSU-Texas. I just can’t see a weak Ohio State team giving PSU much trouble. If Texas is as good as people say then there isn’t a team on their schedule who should scare them. I promise Alabama wouldn’t be concerned and would gladly swap with Texas right now. If one looses I think it will be Texas because of weak defenses creating shootouts each week where any team can win. If one should loose then the sec winner should be automatic.

Never bet against Alabama! Never underestimate tradition! In big championship games tradition with all those hall of fame pros walking the sidelines plays big with young kids and they can beat anybody. Alabama has as good a coaching staff as there is in the country. I remember winning a ton of money in Vegas a few years back when a very vulnerable and as usual overrated Miami team who blew through the Big Least went to New Orleans to play little ‘ol Bama who was a 17 point dawg. I know football and don’t get caught up in the hype of TV idiots trying to tell me about football. I honestly couldn’t see any way Miami could beat that Bama team who probably had the best college defense I have ever seen. Bama smoked’em.

If Bama goes undefeated and can beat a team like UGA or FLA in the championship they can easily beat the other undefeated team in the BS.

By Phildo

October 21, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

The BCS is a piece of crap. Always has been and always will be. Any scenario that screws it up again is good.

D-1 football is the ONLY NCAA sport not to have a true champion. It’s OK to drag basketball on and on, but oh no, not football because this would rob the greedy bowls of their payola. What BS.

Here’s the answer.
8 top final BCS poll teams to play it off (No freaking committee) Quarterfinals at host school starting the second week of December (Their fans deserve this. Screw the bowls) Losing 4 teams still eligible for other bowls Semi-finals on New Years at 2 bowl sites submitting highest bids to NCAA Final one week later at bowl site submitting highest separate bid to NCAA All other 50 million bowls still played for also-rans. This puts more money in the schools, NCAA, TV, and bowl pockets, gives fans a break, and it eliminates the never-ending drama with the current system. Win-win-win-win situation

By Bullschlitz

October 21, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Where did I say anything about anybody going into anybody else’s locker room. Are there any other jerks on here that try to hammer a guy just because he says something that vaquely resembles a quote he once read in a book somewhere. Get a life.

By voice of reason

October 21, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Phildo, that would be much better but you’re still letting the same BCS system choose the 8 teams. The human vote is the biggest problem here. Let the computers have two thirds of the final vote and you take strength of schedule far more seriously and you also take the beauty contest out of play.

By TrueCrimson

October 21, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

By BravesFan79 October 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

I hate to say this… as i grew up rooting for the Crimson Tide, but i hope AL gets SCREWED… just like Auburn did. Because i dont care for Saban, and i especially dont like AL’s stance AGAINST a playoff system!! Lets see how quickly they change their mind after getting screwed….. Face is…. college football will always be a JOKE of a sport until they make changes and have a REAL champion.

What’s your problem BravesFan? You are clearly not a Bama fan, or you wouldn’t be so bent on seeing them “get screwed”. I don’t know where you dug up this nonsense about Alabama taking a “stance” against a playoff system. I’ve never heard of such a thing.

By rockemsockem October 21, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

True Crimson: Don’t get suckered into thinking that BCS is good enough… it’s the greatest travesty in all of sport.

rockem,

I’m not “getting suckered” into anything. I don’t claim that the BCS is the perfect system, only that there isn’t a “perfect system”. That is a myth. All of the teams play under the same rules. I hope that my favorite team does well. If they win another National Championship, it will involve a measure of luck. So what? It’s only a dadgum sport. Bama has been screwed out of NC’s before we even had the BCS system. But there’s always next year!

RTR!!!

By Phildo

October 21, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

To Voice of Reason. Very good point. Will add it to my next tirade.

By next year...as always with the dogs...

October 21, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Old man BuLLshoots above claims to know football but he thinks the dogs came back after that 31-0. Biggest myth of this blog. Bama had it made in the shade and just played with the pups…could have been half a hundred if they wanted!

That 31-0 was the beginning of the end.

By sec fan

October 21, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

heres a real nightmare If texas bama and penn state and Notre dame win out (or at least only lose to USC) there will be 3 teams that deserve the bid. Texas would play alabama and for the NC and USC and penn state would play in the rose bowl, if Penn state won theyd be crowned AP national champion and maybe the idiot big 10 comisioner would want a playoff when they finally get robbed. I mentioned ND because if they won 10 games espn and lou holtz would ride them into the bcs were they would get stomped by an sec team florida uga or lsu. Or another big 12. But they could get lucky and end up playing the acc champ or bigeast champ and be the worst team 2 ever win a BCS bowl. solution-8 team playoffs 1st round (BCS bowls)-each game gets deemed a bowl and this round is like the bowl game when and go to semifinals 2nd round- The higher seeded team gets a home game championship- At a neutral site either under the current rotation or a new one every1 else plays in other bowls such as chickfila, gator, capitol one, or outback. USC and most big 10 fans like BCS becasue the media loves USC and the ohio states so they get hyped and have high rankings so they get in.

By playoff advocate

October 21, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

Would someone please get “voice of reason” some medication. Last time I checked, Utah destroyed the Big East Champion, Pittsburg, in the Fiesta Bowl, and Boise State took out Oklahoma when they got a crack at the so called “big boys”. Why don’t you bring your “big” program to Salt Lake or Boise and try our teams on for size. You might not like the results.

A playoff is the only way to determine a national champion. I still believe my Utes deserved the title when they won the Fiesta Bowl. I honestly believe no team in the nation could have beat us that year. Too bad we’ll never know.

By We're Waiting Bama

October 21, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Voice of reason, you need to change your name because you have no clue what you’re talking about. First of all, I don’t care what the rest of the Big Ten has done, Penn State has proven time and again it can play and BEAT the SEC and the Big 12 in bowl games. Tennessee spoke this crap two years ago saying Penn State didn’t have the speed to compete….I believe Penn State won…for the third time in a row against Tennessee. So what makes Bama so great this year? They’ve beaten Clemson (3-4), Tulane (2-4), Western Kentucky (2-6), Arkansas (3-4), Georgia (the one big game), Ole Miss (3-4) and Kentucky (5-2). And Kentucky’s wins are against the powerhouses, Louisville, Norfolk St., Middle Tenn., Western Kentucky and Arkansas. Bama couldn’t score an offensive TD against Tulane and barely beat Kentucky and Ole Miss. Penn State has destroyed its competition by an average margin of 33 points a game. And this weekend, they’ll add to that by beating Ohio State. Enjoy your #2 ranking for the next few days, because after Saturday, you’ll be looking at #3…that is, if you can manage to beat Tennessee (3-4).

By Al Caniglia

October 21, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

Oklahoma wins out and texas loses 1 or 0 games… leaving Oklahoma the chance to get into the title game without winning its division.

By FLA DAWG

October 22, 2008 5:37 AM | Link to this

This grows tiresome. The majority of fans want a playoff system. Until that exists doomsday scenarios will manifest themselves and create angst amongst fans.

Like politics, people will begin to lose interest in the games.

By Boudreaux

October 22, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this

C’mon people - the BCS was developed because we kept having split championships and couldn’t get the top teams on the field.

EVERYONE said “decide it on the field. Use computers to rank the teams and match up 1 vs 2.”

Then we get Nebraska in 2001 and USC in 2003, and EVERYONE said “the computers have too much power. Let the polls have more input.”

Here’s the plan…

1. Every team joins a conference (yes, that means you, Notre Dame).
2. Every conference has a championship game. The BCS “pool” is the teams who AT LEAST won their division.
3. Rank the teams using strength of schedule components.
4. Match the teams in BCS bowls based on their ranking. Give respect to tradition where possible but the emphasis is on 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, etc. (If UGA decides they’d rather play in the Sugar Bowl than the Orange, it’s their call but they have to get the other team to switch.)

The regular season is still important - you have to get the CG to get into the BCS.

Nonconference games get better becasue of the SoS element.

The CG becomes the playoff without having a playoff, and each conference benefits.

By TrueCrimson

October 22, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

RE: We’re Waiting Bama,

You are incorrect. Alabama has scored Offensive TD’s in every game this season, including Tulane.

Alabama is the only top 5 team whose opponents have posted a collective positive win/loss record at the time when they entered the top five. They are the only team to have beaten two top ten teams and neither of these were home games.

If Bama loses a game, they will drop like a rock in the polls — count on it.

If they don’t lose, then they deserve their ranking. I’m surprised by what they have accomplished this season. They only have 9 Seniors and they have played 16 true Freshmen.

You might as well get used to seeing the Crimson Tide in the top ten again. They aren’t going away. Bama’s dark days are behind them and they once again offer a great opportunity for the best High School football prospects out there.

RTR!!!

By OU Sooner 85

October 22, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Florida 12-1 (Win out- Beat Georgia & LSU, Win SEC) Texas 12-1 (Beat OSU, Lose to Tex. Tech, Win Big 12) Oklahoma 11-1 (Win out- Beat OSU & Tex. Tech) USC 11-1 (Win out) Alabama 11-1 (Lose to LSU, Win out) Ohio State 11-1 (Beat Penn State, Win out) Penn State 11-1 (Lose to Ohio State, Win out) Tex. Tech 11-1 (Beat OSU & Texas, Lose to Oklahoma) TCU 11-1 (Beat Utah, Win out) Utah 11-1 (Lose to TCU, Beat BYU) Boise State 12-0 (Win out) Tulsa 13-0 (Win out, Win Conf. USA) Ball State 13-0 (Win out, Win MAC)

By secfan

October 22, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Alabama, If they win out…would have beaten 4 top ten teams (at least if LSU beats UGA and gets back inside the top ten). Clemson, UGA, LSU, FLA/GA SECCG. If Bama is undefeated, how could anyone argue that they don’t deserve to be in the title game. What other team can say that? The reason they are #2 now is that there are only 5 undefeated teams (from BCS conferences) and TTech and Okie State don’t have near the quality wins Bama does. And just in case you are wondering, I am a VANDY FAN…

By leddogger

October 26, 2008 3:18 AM | Link to this

wait, usc didn’t play a “quality” sec team? because crushing arkansas, who was loaded with felix jones and, maybe you’ve heard of this guy, darren mcfadden, with jdb at the helm of the offense, starting over with new guys at positions across the field, then watching arkansas go to the sec championship game? And you’re telling me arkansas was not a “quality” sec team then? wow good arguement.

yes the sec is better than the pac ten, no contest there. some of our teams could be beat by high school teams(ahem..washington, washington st…)but it seems you don’t care about anyone else in the pac10 just usc. Becuase all they do is win. We lose in conference games, but those are the toughest to play. unless you’re in the sec and get to skip some of the tougher teams that year(how about georgia and florida play this year. Before the sec championship game). Point is, out of conference games we usually when. 5-0 against sec teams, undefeated against big 10 teams. Our one loss was to vince young in the ncg. Which was the best game i’ve ever seen in college football, even though we lost.

Get the playoff system going on. Then you actually play good teams and when you win you have legit bragging rights. And when you play usc, you can say, wow they are as good as the media says they are. Just ask Ohio St.

Fight on trojans!