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DEL.ICIO.USClemson would be smart to hire Bobby Johnson
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Nobody asked me but:
1. Clemson would be smart to hire Bobby Johnson: Given the turmoil that Clemson has been through the talent base that is already there, the school now needs a steady hand from a man who is also a great football coach. If you ask the coaches in the SEC they will tell you that week in and week out that Vanderbilt’s Bobby Johnson does more with his talent than anybody in the league. His teams play smart football and do not make a lot of mistakes. His teams tend to play very tough early in the season but run into problems when injuries start to kick in. Depth will always be a problem at Vanderbilt. Johnson is a Clemson grad and spent a huge portion of his career recruiting the state for Furman. But be warned, Clemson. Getting Johnson will not be a slam dunk. Since athletics at Vanderbilt now comes under the umbrella of the entire university budget, the school can use all of its resources to keep Johnson. From an educational standpoint, the exposure given the university through competitive football has been priceless. Vanderbilt will make it difficult for Johnson to leave.
2. Somebody is going to hire Will Muschamp: If Clemson can’t get Johnson or wants to go the assistant route, I’m suggesting that Will Muschamp is ready. Muschamp, who played for Ray Goff at Georgia, went to Texas from Auburn because he felt it would give him a better opportunity to be a head coach. He will be proved right at the end of this season. Statistically, the Texas defense is No. 40 in total defense (319 ypg) and but is No. 18 in scoring defense (15.3 ppg). But the most important thing Muschamp has brought to Texas is fire and attitude. A lot of schools want a young, aggressive head coach who learned a lot of his football from Nick Saban. Somebody is going to hire Muschamp this year. Schools have been looking for the next Bob Stoops or Mark Richt. Muschamp is the guy.
3. The Bowden coaching tree has been significantly pruned: What if I told you two years ago that in the middle of 2008 there would only be one member of the Bowden family still coaching and that his name would be Bobby? It just goes to show you how tough a profession it is and what a survivor Bobby Bowden is. By the way, Bowden turns 79 years old on Nov. 8. How’s this for irony? Both Tommy (Clemson) and Terry (Auburn) left their schools in the middle of the season almost 10 years apart.
4. Tuberville is in a no-win situation with Barrett Trotter: As bad as this season has been for Auburn, it’s worth noting that the Tigers are 4-3 with five games left to play. Coach Tommy Tuberville says that in an effort to improve his struggling offense nothing is off the table, including taking the redshirt off true freshman quarterback Barrett Trotter. It’s a no-win situation. If you take the redshirt off the kid and nothing improves, the fans are going to rip him. If he does nothing and the offense is still awful, the fans will rip him. My thoughts? Unless it is clear in practice that Trotter is significantly better and gives Auburn a chance to win, you leave the redshirt on. Of course that’s easy for me to say. My job’s not on the line.
5. The quarterback wasn’t the problem at Clemson: I’ll grant you that Cullen Harper was not playing well this season, especially for a preseason ACC player of the year pick. Harper had 27 touchdown passes and only six interceptions last season. But Harper also played behind a veteran offensive line a year ago. It’s hard for a quarterback to be sharp and confident when he is always under pressure. Maybe the Clemson team rallies behind new starter Willy Korn and the coaching staff that is now minus Tommy Bowden and OC Rob Spence. But Harper wasn’t the problem with the offense. It was the inability to run the ball with a patchwork offensive line that started the train wreck that ended in Bowden’s resignation on Monday.
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I still believe the SEC is better than the Big 12: I caught a bunch of grief last week when I claimed that the SEC was better than the Big 12. The argument against me was that there are so many good quarterbacks in the Big 12 that by definition that league had to be better. I argued that when it comes down to big games, the team with the best defense usually wins. Think about this: In this week’s NCAA statistics 10 of the SEC’s 12 teams are ranked in the top 39 of total defense. The two worst defenses in the SEC are Ole Miss (No. 53) and Arkansas (No. 59). The Big 12 has only two defenses in the Top 40—Oklahoma (No. 23) and Texas (No. 40). The SEC may not play sexy football, but it has won the last two national championships.
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By spike
October 15, 2008 6:39 AM | Link to this
It is pretty bad for Clemson when the best hire they can make is the Vanderbilt coach. It will be even worse when he turns down the offer.
By Michael Cox
October 15, 2008 6:49 AM | Link to this
NOONE! (ehem….other than Big 12 Fans!) Can argue that the SEC is NOT the best conference in the Nation. The only point that can be made about the Big 12 is wel….they play football? Anyway, if you are getting ripped, it’s by the Fanatic Big 12 Fans!
By Fire up the AU jet
October 15, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this
1). Bobby Johnson can never exceed expectations at CU because they are unrealistically high. I hope he stays in the SEC. Part of the reason the SEC has gotten so much better than other conferences is the fact that 1 -12 ,there is not an easy opponent, a cheap “W”,anymore. he is largely responsible for that.
2) Muschamp is ready , willing and able. Clemson could do a lot worse (like the guy they just let go). Why not ?
3) All of the Baby Bowdens have shown that it’s not enough to have a good TEAM now and again. You have to build a great PROGRAM to sustain support . Bobby’s time has passed . He should bow out with his dignity intact.
4)Tuberville is in a trap largely of his own making . The AU fans look into the future and see the pendulum start to turn toward Tuscaloosa and they are running scared. Jet fuel is cheaper than it has been in months , Why not ease Tubby and his on again/off again dalliance with the spread (which is fading fast as coaches catch on to the proper wy to defend it) out the door before Bama owns the series again ?
5) Clemson’s problem is that they have 22 individuals that could (individually) play for anyone. But they have no team concept to speak of. i have never seen a more listless , confused , disinterested Div. I team than I saw in their opener with Bama. They need to clean house and start over.
By VanDSIRROM
October 15, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this
Spike thinks he’s smarter than all the SEC coaches…
Spike will really look “smart” when Vandy wins again between the hedges.
VanDSIRROM VandySportsNews.com
By Alan
October 15, 2008 7:09 AM | Link to this
Let’s see Big 12 vs SEC.
Texas/Alabama —- I’ll take Texas; Oklahoma/Georgia — I’ll take Oklahoma; Missouri/Florida — I’m going with Missouri; Oklahoma State/LSU — toss-up; Texas Tech/Auburn — I’m going with Tech; Kansas/Tennessee — I’ll take Kansas; Nebraska/Vandy — Toss-up; Texas A&M/Mississippi — Mississippi.
Looks like the Big 12 to me.
By boomer
October 15, 2008 7:25 AM | Link to this
I agree with Bobby Johnson at Clemson…Clemson needs some heart and a higher degree of toughness which Bobby brings to the table….He just needs to open up his offense a little more…he should promote Coach Jimmy Kiser to Offensive Coordinator.
By lakerat
October 15, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
Johnson to Clemson makes sense, especially in light of Clemson’s commitment to being a Top 20 academic institution (following UGA’s blueprint for this) and a football power - he has the pedigree and the experience to be successful on the field and has also had to deal with the academic side of the equation - what makes this unlikely is his age.
Regarding Muschamp - while he is seemingly the “hot prospect”, he has had very little success against UGA (see Auburn’s stats when playing UGA under his tutelege). But, maybe he has improved.
Papa Bowdon would have been gone from FSU several years ago if he had not earned the “Saint Bobby” moniker from the past glory years.
And, the real darkhorse for the Clemson job is the guy who is currently the “interim” head coach. He is highly regarded as a recruiter, and his receivers have done well as coached by him. Plus, he is very well thought of within the university for his academic acumen when dealing with the university and their past problems regarding admissions and athletes. Finally, if he goes 6-0 over these next 6 games, and wins a bowl game, he will be hard to pass on, unless, of course, some current big name becomes available, but if he slips up once then it goes back to whomever is available!
And, Clemson does have the resources and facilities to interest a big name.
By Tony
October 15, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
What about Mike Leach at Clemson?
By Tom
October 15, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
Let’s see - SEC vs. Big 12 Tony/Alan - I’ll take Tony.
Looks like SEC to me. Boy was that easy…
By sloan
October 15, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
Big 12 = ESPN Kool-aid ESPN has decided now that USC got whacked by Oregon State the same week that they did a ridiculous piece on Sportscenter about the Trojans being able to beat the St. Louis Rams that passing efficiency is the new standard by which a football team should be measured! Guess what? Those passing efficiency numbers come against out-of-conference patsies and your own conference schedule. The fact that the BIg 12 plays little defense is the fly in the ointment that ESPN’s talking heads are conveniently overlooking. Defense wins championships! The SEC (top to bottom) plays defense!
By Joe Defense
October 15, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
The SEC may have 10 teams ranked in the top 39 defenses, but that’s a result of playing very weak nonconference teams and not having but maybe one team (Florida) in the conference that has a potent offense. Auburn vs Miss St. wasn’t a game of superior defenses (just ask Georgia Tech), it was a game of two horrible offenses. I think we’ll all find out come bowl time that the SEC is only tough against itself. The top of the Big 12 would set records against the top of the SEC.
By TOP TO BOTTOM
October 15, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
I am a huge SEC fan and going into the season I definitely believed the SEC Conference was clearly the best conference in America. But I must admitt the water has been muddied by the emergence of the Big 12 QB’s and teams like Okie ST. and Texas.
Put a gun to my head and I would have to pick the Big 12 at the half way point of the season.
However, I reserve the right to change my mind in January: See bowl games.
By BAD BAD CONFERENCE
October 15, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
The worst BCS conference in America has to be The Big East conference. And to think they are locked into a BCS Bowl.
Utah, BYU, or another at large team, definitely deserves a BCS Bowl bid before Pitt,the most undercoached team in America (See Dave What’s’his-name)
By statsman
October 15, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Playing against the offenses at MSU, Auburn, TN, Vandy, and USCeast makes any defense look good.
By BirdDawgFan
October 15, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
As a Dawg fan I hope that Clemson hires Bobby Johnson away from Vandy. That way we can have Vandy back as a breather on our schedule instead of being another hard fought game that wears you down in the middle of the SEC schedule. I think Muschamp needs one more year at Texas. Does anybody know how much Johnson is making right now at Vandy?
By Huh?
October 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
“The SEC may have 10 teams ranked in the top 39 defenses, but that’s a result of playing very weak nonconference teams”
I get so tired of hearing this crap my head is about to explode. Have you seen the Big 12’s OOC schedule you hypocrite? Oklahoma and Texas played absolutley no one before they played each other. Florida Atlantic, Rice, UTEP, Arkansas, Baylor, Cincinatti, Chattanooga…There are simply too many creampuffs to list them all, and you have the nerve to criticize the SEC’s OOC schedule? What drug are you on? And don’t even get me started on the Big 12’s other “top” teams. The Big 12’s OOC schedule is a joke. YOU are a joke. Get a clue.
“I think we’ll all find out come bowl time that the SEC is only tough against itself.”
YAWN. We heard the EXACT same thing last year and the SEC went 7-2 in bowl games. I think we’ll find out in bowl games that the Big 12 is a hyped up overrated ESPN media darling that can’t win big games.
By Salty
October 15, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
Big 12…wow.
Clemson has a coach…thank you very much. He’ll whip 22+ players into a team…some won’t be ‘veterans’.
By Jack Mehoff
October 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
Where is the poster known as “Tommy Bowwowden” these days? It looks as if he went down the ‘ol crapper, just like his favorite team, the Clempson Tigers, have done this season. Where are you, Tommy? Why don’t you come on out and take your lumps like a man and don’t be hiding like a little beeyotch.
By cold hard truth
October 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
Alan, you are delusional.. Chase Daniel looked like a deer in headlights when he actually had some pressure on him in a big time game..Texas and oklahoma have bad defense and Oklahoma state?? what a joke..your two hand touch football is weak and so is the Big12.. Everytime Georgia faces..”a really good offense”..like boise state, oklahoma state, hawaii, Arizona st..UGA pounds them defensively…its not even close
By Spanky
October 15, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
The SEC may play some defense, but to tout Arkansas as the #53 defense is ludicrous considering they’re giving up 35 pts per game.
Those who claim the SEC will be exposed during bowl season are wrong - we’ll never know how good the SEC really is (or isn’t) because the bowl tie ins generally place the SEC team vs a much lower ranked team. Look at last year and tell me that you’d expect any of those bowl wins to be in question going into the games.
By Hypocrisy
October 15, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Oh cut it out, SEC fans. I’m sick of hearing about how Vanderbilt has made the conference so much better 1-12 when you very well know that you point fingers at the ACC and say that the ACC is weak because Wake Forest has become legitimate!When Duke becomes formidable I have no doubt you will once again be using that same hypocrisy on us. MAN UP already!!!
By gridiron
October 15, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
TEXAS gave up 35 points against Oklahoma,..where was the Mus-champed DEFENSE?….Clemson does not deserve Bobby Johnson,..he has too much class for that redneck program.
By GeoffDawg
October 15, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Spanky - I don’t know what Arkansas’ giving up per game but if that means they’re #53, then that’s what they are. It just tells me that there’s a whole lot of other worse defenses around the country.
Your other point is just silly - of course the SEC tends to be the higher ranked team going into a bowl because across the board, the SEC tends to have more ranked teams than other conferences. When making this comparison, you have to look at the ranking of the conference team tied into a particular bowl game. For example, the Chik-Fil-A bowl pairs the ACC’s 2nd or 3rd best team against the SEC’s 4th or 5th best team and the SEC team still routinely dominates.
By GeoffDawg
October 15, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
gridiron - if Bobby Johnson attended Clemson, he may not mind their redneckism as much as you might think.
By saint nick
October 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Bama, FLA, USC, AU would shut down those little 12 gimmick offenses. TOO MUCH SPEED ON DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By gridiron
October 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
GeoffDawg— I knew Bobby Johnson played for Clemson,..but their Redneck program is a coaches graveyard. Why go their and put up with that, when VANDY IS A CLEAN PROGRAM…Clemson will always be average, the Danny Ford days are over.
By Hey Sloan
October 15, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Check the NCAA stats for best scoring defense.
By Bamafan
October 15, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Bobby Johnson has taken Vandy from awful to being a good team. Vandy may go to a bowl game this year and i hope they do. If clemson wants Johnson to be the head coach, he would be foolish for him to turn it down!! The ACC is a lot easily to win then the SEC. I hope that clemson gives Dabo Swinney a chance to see what he can do with the team this year and maybe turn the program around!! Dabo played at Bama and was on Gene Stallings staff and is a very good recruiter!! Clemson has had a bunch of Bama’s former players to be head coaches over the years. Danny Ford and Frank Howard are just a few former Bama players who coached at Clemson. ROLL TIDE AND GOOD LUCK CLEMSON!!
By BuzzFactor
October 15, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
There will always be an argument for who has the toughest conference, but never a way to settle it once and for all until we have a playoff system placing 8 or even 16 teams in a bracket, and even that will leave room for debate. As an ACC fan, of course thinking we are 3rd, I’d have to give the Big12 a slight edge looking at the lackluster seasons at Tenn & Auburn, LSU being overrated and finally being exposed (yes UF is strong, but LSU hasn’t proven anything yet this year), and Vandy being exposed by Miss St(yeah the team labeled a bottom feeder after it’s blowout by GaTech). Around week 2 I was swayed by the media hype and thinking the SEC was at it’s strongest ever, but reality is that its not. So to wrap up, the Big12 has a slight edge(see Big12 OOC post) over the SEC. Very slight, but that will probably change when the dust settles.
By Terrible Truth
October 15, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
I hope Clemson hires Bobby Johnson before Auburn wakes up an fires Tubby Tomerville.
Big 12 football is still as boring today as it was when they all ran the wishbone and the option a generation ago. Ditto for the Big 11 or should I say the Big 10 plus Indiana.
By Taco
October 15, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
UGA fans don’t get all cute talking bad about how sad it is that Clemson may have to go after the Vandy Coach. Remember how bad the Dawgs sucked that they had to go get an unknown first time head coach in Mark Richt. You will be back there soon. Richt is turning UGA into “Free Shoes U” with his constant recruiting of thugs. He is a great christian, but he recognizes great criminals. If you think I am lying look at three categories that FSU led when he was there and now thinks about the Dawgs.
How soon will one of these thugs do something that truly hurts the University.
Damon Evans needs to address this issue.
By 2N4YEARS
October 15, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
What’s all the love for Will Muschamp for?? What has he really done? Auburn’s ‘D’ is just as good if not better than last year without WM. And last year UGA hung 42 on AU, and it could’ve been worse (if Richt believed in the ‘Urban’ philosophy). Texas has had lots of points scored on them this year. Not impressive. This guy is only slightly better than an average coach.
By Old Timer
October 15, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Some of these comments crack me up. Come on guys, give Swinney a chance. In the late 70’s, Clemson promoted a coach, who was had played for Alabama and was never a head coach, and in three years he won the National Championship. So if Swinney does pretty good with the six remaining games maybe he deserves a chance. A good coach has to start somewhere and maybe his time has come. He seems to be doing everything right at Clemson and has already started a few new things with the fans for this weeks GaTech game.
By TigerPaw
October 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Clemson needs to hire Bobby Petrino. He has been at Arkansas for over 10 months and will be looking for a change!
By TigerPaw
October 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Clemson needs to hire Bobby Petrino. He has been at Arkansas for over 10 months and will be looking for a change!!
By esso,-the rock-,rednecks
October 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
clemson should hire phil fumbler, …he needs a new shade of orange and he fits right in
By mcdawg
October 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
i saw defense last week by Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri-missed the Texas Tech game but Nebraska ran off a number of points
dawgs tagged 40 plus on Muschamp’s Ds at both LSU and Auburn
By mcdawg
October 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
i saw no defense last week by Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri-missed the Texas Tech game but Nebraska ran off a number of points
dawgs tagged 40 plus on Muschamp’s Ds at both LSU and Auburn
By Come On Tony
October 15, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Come on dude. Don’t use manipulated and partial stats to sell your point. That’s not journalism.
If you are going to use stats tell us who are the top 5 or 10 or 20, or whatever.And how your conference compares. We all know the high scoring Big 12 doen’t LEAD the NCAA in defence. Does the SEC?
Does an SEC team lead in scoring defense, total defense; who does?
Don’t just make vague references saying “top 39”.
By GAMECOCK LEFTOVERS
October 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
PROMOTE BRAD SCOTT TO HEAD COACH,HE IS A GENIOUS
By TACO RESPONSE
October 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Mr. TACO,
What have you been smoking. You gave a stat that UGA football players are 90% special qaualifiers.
You need to stick to the “drive-thru” restaraunt business.
That is if you have enough “eddication” to get a job at a fast food joint.
By to the taco response
October 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Ok, we get it, you disagree with taco. We all got the venom you spewed out. Hope you feel better now.
I assume you disagree with the 90% claim. What is the correct number, or didn’t you take the time to confirm that 90% was wrong? It does seem to high to be accurate.
If never fail to amuse me, how foul tempered people on the blog are.
By GatorGuy
October 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Johnson - “His teams play smart football and do not make a lot of mistakes.”
Call me crazy here, but something tells me a Johnson lead Clemson team would not play as smart as his Vandy team!
By Blue Fox
October 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
For the CU coach, I’ve heard that Chan Gailey wants to get back into ACC coaching and can be had from the Chiefs …
By VUFan78
October 15, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
It has been speculated that Bobby Johnson makes in the $1.4M to $1.5M range at VU.
By shane#1
October 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Taco, You might want to check some facts before You post, but then again You are not intrested in facts, only knocking UGA. UGA was tied for number 8 in the Fulmer cup points, but charges were dropped in four of the cases against UGA players. Besides, most of the arrest were for traffic offenses, with one for jay walking, not exactly hardened criminals there. You might also be intrested in the fact that UGA rarely if ever admits special quailifiers. In fact UGA’s admission standards are higher than the NCAA requires. Let’s look at these “thugs”, which is considered a racist term by the way, Trinton Sturdivant, president of his senior class, 4.01 high school GPA, Clint Boling, Ben Jones, and Richard Samuel, all with High school averages of 3.5 and higher. Samuel turned 17 in Feb, and he was already enrolled at UGA, having graduated a year and a semister early. Then consider this, 45 of UGA’s 99 man roster are maintaing GPA’s of 3.0 and higher, not just walk-ons that are there to pad the GPA either, but stars like Stafford and Mo-Mass too. Last year UGA passed Flodida and Tech in APR ratings and is second only to Vandy in the SEC. These are facts My friend, they are published in black and white. You might do a little research before spouting your lies so that You will look less like an idiot. I get the idea that You are a tech fan, but since You don’t brag on Your own school but merely spout bigoted lies about UGA it is hard to tell. If You are a Tech fan then what about recruiting “thugs” like Jaybo Shaw? He was arrested for underage drinking you know, like 90% of the “thugs” You talk about at UGA. BTW, wasn’t a Tech player arrested for rape? In short Sir, You are a bigot, a racist, and liar, and I just proved it to the whole world!
By KR
October 15, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
I’ve never been all that impressed with Will Muschamp’s defenses. He makes a lot of noise and draws attention to himself, but it doesn’t translate onto the field. Auburn’s defenses under Chizik and Rhodes have been much better.
If Clemson is willing to go with a first-time head coach, they should give Swinney the shot.
Question: why is it that a lot of non-Auburn fans are declaring that Tuberville is going to be fired, while many of the Auburn fans are not? If things were so bad for Tuberville, one would expect exactly the opposite.
By Rebs wil Rise Again
October 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
OLE MISS WILL BEAT Bama,…just like we beat the Gators.—-Last year OLE MISS lost by 3 points-(coached by goofy Ed Orgeron and Arkansas lost by 3 points-(coached by Houston Nutt)….Bama is way over-rated and not near as good as Florida…OLE MISS has the talent and a better Coach.UPSET OF THE WEEK GOOOOOOOOO - REBELS-..Alabama falls to #12
By Joe
October 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Clemson deserves to suffer because they got rid of Ray Ray McElrathbey.
By Rebs wil Rise Again
October 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
OLE MISS will UPSET Alabama,—mark my word— HOUSTON NUTT will outCOACH Saban,—RICH BROOKS CAME CLOSE…REBS WIN
By TommyP
October 15, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Georgia doesn’t take partial qualifiers anymore.
In fact, they haven’t in several years.
Notice some of the kids that Georgia won’t offer a scholarship to but everyone else will? If they don’t have their grades in order, they’re not offered (see Bowman).
If you don’t believe it, go to the AJC recruiting page and find some of those stories.
By m
October 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Tony, you are a tool. If the sec lost every non-conference game you would still think they were best. It is some kind of disease with you sec homers. The sec is VERY mediocre this year. Maybe 3 of the teams are decent, and only then when they are fired up. The rest are mediocre. And the sec is certainly no better than the Big 12 or acc or pac 10 or possibly even the big 10. You sec homers (or is that gomers?) are just being your usual delusional selves. And Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever.
By Palmetto State.org
October 15, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
CLEMSON DESERVES TO SUFFER FOR YEARS
By partial qualifier
October 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
TENNESSEE would be smart to re-hire JOHNNY MAJORS,—AND LET HIM RETIRE WITH DIGNITY HE DESERVES
By saint nick
October 15, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Hey rebs,
Coffee will have 200+ yards against that defense. Ole Miss is at the bottom of the SEC in total defense. Hardy is a freaking train wreck, he makes Pacman look like a priest!!!Bama will destroy Ole Miss, final score 42-17!
By robodawg
October 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
SEC easily beats the Big 12. Don’t get me wrong, the Big 12 probably has some of the nation’s best offenses, but we certainly have the best defenses. Every team but Arkansas plays solid defense. That wears you down over the course of a season.
If you lined up each league 1st thru 12th and had them play each other, their best might be our best, but the SEC would still go at least 8-4. It’s the toughest, most competitive league to play in.
By Spike
October 15, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
VanDSIRROM.. Moron, you missed the point. We will see how smart I am Saturday, Vandy boy.
By The man who made ROSWELL ED famous
October 15, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Let me translate every post ever written by m to the rest of you:
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By Justin
October 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
with no proven D-1 championship experience, Johnson would be another big gamble like TB was. I think anyone without a D-1 championship on their record would be a BIG mistake.
By T-bone
October 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Taco, damon evans is not a decision maker…he’s a mere glad hander…though a nice guy. he dosn’t hire coaches or negotiate contracts….UGA has people with experience that do that. if mark richt wanted evans gone…which he doesn’t…he’d be gone by sundown.
By scott jones
October 15, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
they should get lane kiffin, missouri’s oc, okalhomas oc, or texas techs oc
By Question shane#1
October 15, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
The post was good. I like the facts you included, I think it is good to question people who use stats out of context, or often just make them up.
I do however have a few questions. Why is thug a racist term? Can’t thug apply a person of any race? Are you saying that Stafford and Mo-Mass (?) have 3.0 GPA’s or just players like them? Finally, why the hate? It seems to me you were more credible before you added you own hate to the message. I know generalizations are dangerous, but one can’t help but feel the hate on these blogs.
By murfdawg
October 15, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
SHANE#1—-You are the man!!!Thanks for taking the time to point out some good things about UGA.
Johnson will go to Clemson, because “When Momma calls, you have to go home”. He would rule the ACC and kick SOS into retirement.
About UGA’s thugs on the field. In the first 7 games in 2007 we had 43 penalties and our “Angelic ” opponents had 45. After the celebration at Fla, in the next 11 games, the Thugs had 104 penalties and the Angels had 62. How did we go to being so bad, so quickly? Ask Penn Wagers and Steve Shaw. Their crews called 40 of them. We had Wagers Sat vs UT and he called a decent game. Yes he did miss a call that cost us a first down at the three. All the other penaties (except for the one personal foul on the kickoff team) were 5 yarders and everyone could see them. I think we have paid the price for embarrassing the officials at Fla and they will let us play ball. Dust off the halo, we are back.
By Born2Buzz
October 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
You can spin statistic just about anyway you want. Maybe the SEC defenses are ranked so high because the SEC offenses are so bad. Conversely, maybe the Big 12 offenses are so good because the Big 12 defenses are so bad. Or maybe it’s all the other way around.
Tony, what do you think of this.
IMO, each major conference has levels of teams - 1)Really good teams, 2) Pretty good teams, 3) Decent teams and 4) Crap teams. Normally there are only a handful of really good teams out there. I’d say the PAC10 has 1 (USC) Big11 has 1 (PSU), Big 12 has 2(Texas and still OK), SEC has 2 (Fla & Bama - Sorry Dawgs but Fla so far looks best). ACC and BigEast have none. How about pretty good teams? PAC - 2 (Cal & Ore), Big11 - 2 (Ohio St. & Mich St), Big 12 - 4(Missou, Okie St., TexTech, Kansas), SEC - 2(UGA, LSU), ACC-3 (VT, Wake & UNC-so far, GT hasn’t jumped over UNC yet but might soon), Big East - none (WVa, UConn, SoFla, Pitt & Cincy are close but I would put them in the Decent category). I’d say the PAC has 3 decent teams (Stanford, Oreg ST, Ariz) and 4 crap teams (UCLA, ASU, Wash & Wash ST), The Bigg 11 has 2 decent teams (MInn & Northwestern) and 6 crap teams (don’t need to list them all), The Big12 has 2 decent teams (Neb & Colo) and 3 crap teams, SEC has 5 decent teams (Vandy, SC, Auburn, Miss & KY) and 3 crap teams (sorry Tenn but you are there with Arkansas and Miss St this year). The ACC has 4 decent teams (GT, BC, FSU & Maryland - although any of these can jump to the pretty good category) and 5 crap teams ( although UVA is showing signs of moving into the decent category - Clemson just dropped to the crap list), and sadly the Big East is comprised of only 5 decent teams (see above) and 3 crap teams.
So from my analysis, the Big 12 has more really good and pretty good teams than the SEC and that makes them the stronger conference. Top to bottom, the SEC is better since the SEC crap teams are better than the Big 12’s.
My rankings of the confernces go Big 12, SEC, PAC, ACC, Big11 (sorry but one really good team doesn’t outweigh 6 crap teams) and at the bottom the Big East.
We can argue on which teams should be in each category but at the end of the day there will only be 2 of the Really Good Teams playing for the BCS title.
By robodawg Best Defense?
October 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
I don’t think you can support the claim you are making. It seams to me that while certainly there is good defensive play there isn’t a single SEC defense that can shut a team out.
Maybe the SEC has the best average defense of the conferences, but when comparing teams as opposed to conferences; it seems to me the “best” defense isn’t in the SEC.
I don’t have the NCAA stats in front of me perhaps some else does. To often people use stats to support a position, and they don’t provide the full picture in an attempt to manipulate.
By RAMBLE ON!!!
October 15, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
Tony, I don’t think Clempson is smart enough to hire Bobby Johnson.
I hope not, Keep him beating UGAg and out of the ACC. Damn fine coach he is, second best in the country behind CPJ of course.
3 you ask?…Jim Grobe.By Why Talk Conferences?
October 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
I can’t remember there ever being a NC awarded to a conference.
Ohio State, LSU, USC, Texas, and Florida won BCS NC’s, their conferences didn’t. And guess what, at the end of the season these same teams will make up the BCS bowl selections along with a few other TEAMS (not conferences). The BCS NC game will be between one of these teams, because they are championship quality programs, not because they are Big 10, SEC, PAC 10 or Big 12 conferences.
I think the saying goes; Those who can do….those who can’t talk about their conference.
By UGA = 94% special qualifiers
October 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/SPORTS/809070375/1069/SPORTS0601&GID=dfCcEQqM6KzyclE1AVDjzBETqGNR/Qwh6Xox0IiG+0Q%3D
Check out the link half way down. 94% of UGA’s players didn’t qualify for the school. But don’t let the facts get in your way, Shane#1. 6% of the team qualified, so you are right, it is “rare” to admit special qualifiers.
By shane#1
October 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
1- I am not sure I agree with Tony on this one. Johnson is 58 years old. That means that if he is given the four to five years that a coach should have to build his program Johnson would be approaching his mid sixties and Clemson would soon be looking for another coach. I think a younger coach would be lessen the chance of further turmoil in Clemson’s program. Jim Grobe would be an option also, but I don’t see either of these coaches leaving after they worked so hard to build competitive programs at schools never known for their football. Muschamp could be a good choice as he would bring some toughness and fire to a program that needs both badly. The remarks made by some of the Clemson players after Bowden was fired lead Me to believe that big changes have to be made in the football culture at Clemson. If I were Johnson I would not touch that program with a ten foot pole. Leave Clemson to a younger guy, Bobby. 2- See above. 3- Papa Bowden is getting no younger, in a year or two there may be NO Bowdens coaching Div 1 football! 4- What’s wrong with going to the power I and running the ball Tubbs? The season is half over and the losses are already there, save the freshman for later. I think having to start as a freeshman actually set Stafford back a little. 5- Harper may not have been the problem at Clemson but he was certainly not part of the solution. Harper lost confidence in his coach and his coach lost confidence in him. So he’s playing behind a young patched up line, Stafford has been doing that at UGA for the past two years. The fact is that Bowden’s team quit on him in the Bama game, and has quit every time the going got tough since then. The QB should be the leader of the offense and, IMO, Harped showed damn poor leadership. The season is shot anyway, leave him on the bench.
By add14jazz
October 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
just wanted to correct one person here: vandy hasn’t been a “breather” for anyone the last decade or so. Vandy always plays great D (well, their front players do. that’s when their lack of depth comes to play) but their offenses have been kinda flat, even during the Jay Cutler years. They have had NO consistent running game at Vandy.
Johnson is a great coach and I’d for one hate to see him leave Nashville — I’m from there and grew up laughing at horrible Vandy squads until Woody Widenhofer and now Bobby Johnson moved into the Music City — all that AND I’m a Tennessee fan. (a very unhappy Tennessee fan right now too)
By at Oxford
October 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
GROUNDED COFFEE FOR OLE MISS DEFENSE,—DE-CAFFIENATED BY THE REBS,—21 to 13.
By dogfan
October 15, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Hey Alan,
Let’s see: Texas/Alabama - toss-up, Oklahoma/Georgia - toss-up, Missouri/Florida - Florida, Oklahoma State/LSU - LSU, Texas Tech/Auburn - Texas Tech, Kansas/Kentucky - Kentucky, Nebraska/Vandy - Vandy, Texas A&M/South Carolina - Carolina. Looks like the SEC to me.
By shane#1
October 15, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
To whoever posted about special qualifiers and directed it to me, I went to that site and the 94% You refer to was for ‘99- 2000, almost a decade ago. That was before Evans became AD and Richt took over the football program. Richt and Evans have since changed admissions policys for athletes and UGA hasn’t admitted special qualifiers in several years. I stand by My statement. There are few if any special qualifiers at UGA. Wasn’t it in ‘99 that George O’liar was playing about a dozen academicly ineligeable players? Next year at UGA, if everyone is healthy, the High School GPA of the entire starting O line will be over a 3.5, along with the QB and one of the RBs. So put that in Your pipe and smoke it!
By AGTFan
October 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
I’m not a Big 12 fan, but having watched the top teams in both conferences play, I think the Big 12 is superior to the SEC THIS YEAR. Year in and year out I think the SEC is the top conference.
By Born2Buzz
October 15, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
I took a look at the article about special qualifiers on the UGA football team and unbelievably I’m going to step up for the Dawgs. The UGA entry requirements for all freshmen are actually quite high, in fact their entry requirements are higher than TECH’s. So the fact that 94 % of the football players were special admits at UGA is misleading.
Just like Tony trying to use statistics to validate his opionion that the SEC is better than the Big12, using statistics to prove UGA football players are dumb thugs is wrong and misleading.
By OK Shane
October 15, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Thanks, but as I said people try to manipulate. “along with the QB and one of the RBs” So which RB? I only point this out because now it appears as though you tried to manipulate (before).
I think your point is well made. Georgia fields athlete scholars and these kids attend classes. Bravo to the AD and coach.
By There you go again Shane
October 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
The link said that the information used was the last the schools submitted to the NCAA. So what; you have received information that Georgia didn’t provide the NCAA? What source are you basing your rebuttal on?
And as usual you have to resort to the abrasive attitude. Why do you always feel the need to insult anyone you disagree with?
By lakerat
October 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Hey UGA=94% Qualifiers -
Those stats for UGA were from 99-00 - 10 year old data does not qualify as being very current - kind of like Tim Tucker and Chip Towers dumping on UGA and TEch today with 98-01 stats regarding graduation rates.
I can guarandamtee you that UGA, today, does not take 94% special qualifiers for its football program, and I, personally, would be shocked to see that they take any. It is well known that football players and other athletes are held to higher than SEC admission standards in order to be admitted for athletics at UGA. All the other SEC schools, especially AL, AU, SC and AR benefit from UGA’s inability to accept and admit borderline qualified athletes. They do, however, admit more than their fair share of low lifes, but you cannot guage “thugness” on any chart!
By UGA and TACO RESPONSE
October 15, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Dear TACO and UGA,
Special or Non-Qualifiers are not the same as Special Admissions.
A Special or Non-Qualifier does not make the minimum score or core average for atheletes.
Almost every school in the nation allows special admissions for freshman atheletes.
Point given: Things that are different are not the same.
Compare Apples to Apples not Apples to Oranges.
By CLARIFICATION
October 15, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
lakerat,
The topic of 94% special qualifiers and the topic of UGA’s graduation rate, are two seperate topics.
Just thought I would let you know, before you got in too deep.
But you are right GA does not take non-qualifiers.
By playoffswouldsettlethis
October 15, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Diminish the regular season you say? I think not: Step 1: Join a conference Step 2: Play a conference championship game. Step 3: Win your conference (6 major)and you get a bid into the tournament. Overall ranking 1-8 decides seeding; 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, etc. Win or go home. Step 4: allow for 2 “at-large” bids out of the 5 mid-major conferences. They will be ranked accordingly. Step 5: Use the non BCS bowls the same as you do now. Step 6: Add 2 more “BCS bowls” to the 4 current BCS bowls to play these games. This would lead to even more money. The last two teams play for the NC. Step 7: Brag
By lakerat
October 15, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
CLARIFICATION -
I was not comparing “special qualifiers” with “graduation rates” - my point was that BOTH articles (the qualifier article and the graduation rate article) were utilizing data that, while true at the time 8-10 years ago, have no bearing on the situations involving the current administrations and academic climates for athletes. Hence, I do not think I am in too deep - but thanks for caring!
By dmac
October 15, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
I think Tony Ball the running back coach from Georgia would be a good choice for the clemson job. Black coaches need love too.
By APOLOGY
October 15, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
lakerat,
I apologize, I read your post a little to quickly.
Have a great day.
By Buzzfan1936
October 15, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
TONY Where are your predictions this week? I beat you bad last week. I got 8 out of 10 right. You only got 3!
By lakerat
October 15, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
UGA AND TACO RESPONSE -
Technically, the majority of football and basketball players at UGA are “special admissions”. Sure, you have your occasional Thomas Browns’(graduated from UGA in 3.5 years) and Dave Bliss’ - (basketball player who graduated in the Honors Program in 3 years) - but most of the football and basketball players do NOT meet the regular student guidelines for admission to UGA. Heck, probably 99.9% of the “regular” student body is on the Hope Scholarship when they arrive as freshmen at UGA.
Hence, if TACO and UGA are confusing “special admissions” with “non or special qualifiers” my hat is off to you for pointing out this very large discrepancy in “apples and oranges”.
By sherlock
October 15, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
GA should hire Muschamp now!
By SecIsFootball
October 15, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Rebs wil Rise Again….Let me make you aware of something. You team has won 9 games in the series with BAMA. This one will be in Tuscaloosa and just so you know, you wont get to double digit wins this season however BAMA will win by double digits on Saturday! Your DB’s are awful so guys like McCoy and Jones will haev a field day. Your offense turns the ball over left and right. You guys had your “play WAY above your heads” game against UF. BAMA wins sat and my guess is something to the tune of 38-10.
By lakerat response
October 15, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
lakerat-
That was my point, and I appreciate your point about the timeline of the survey.
By SC Rules!!!
October 15, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
shane#1, YOU are the MAN!!!! I agree with your assesment regarding Coach Johnson, he should stay at Vandy, he worked hard ot build them up. Clemson might try and lure Muschamp but I also see them making a run at Sarc the USC OC, He will get some love this off season for sure. It was rumored around here that he would elevate to Coach Carrolls posistion when he bolted back to the No Fun League but now that Pete has fianlly put that to rest (thankfully) Sarc will definitely get the offers and HE will go. We will miss him but he deserves his shot. I agree that Stafford was rushed and he could have used the redshirt year, not that the end results have been bad by any means. The bosses are taking us to Ruth Chris for a big fat one Friday night, will let you knw how it went. USC will overcome the stubbed toe nad the fact that the PAC-10 is way down this year to reign supreme! Next year the PAC-10 will tough 1-7 with a lot of talent coming back for several teams. UCLA won’t be near as bad in the coming years and will actually get around to knocking us out of the Rose Bowl to boot. They have some really good players that they smartly redshirted this year and they have several top SoCal committs coming in to help out too. Not that we are hurting mind you, we will still be making our usuall haul, but Coach Carroll is also mining other parts of the country to garner new blood. later!!!!
By playoffswouldsettlethis Interesting
October 15, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Very interesting. It seems the puppy fans have jumped staight to step seven.
By GT
October 15, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Those offensive lines are land mines. If Clemson is as bad on the line as I am hearing Tech will kill em, I don’t think they are that bad. As Tech has found out a quarterback can make a line look bad too
By Ramblor
October 15, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
The SEC defenses are ranked so highly because many of the SEC offenses are terrible. Consider USC(east), Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Tennessee, and Arkansas. That’s HALF of the SEC that score with a drunk chick in Athens. So, please, enough of this mighty SEC defense talk. It’s pathetic.
By shane#1
October 15, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
OK Shane, the RB I refered to was Richard Samuel, who is seeing limited duty as a true 17 year old true freshman. Samuel has vacilated between second and third on the depth chart behind Moreno and saw duty as a kick returner against UT Saturday. I do get a little agitated when people like Taco make blanket statements that guys like these are “thugs” when the worst that most have ever done is drink a beer under age and get caught The great majority of underage drinkers at any university are white upper and middle class kids that do not play football. Nobody calls these white kids thugs, but if said undergraduate is black and plays football he is a thug! I think the term is blatantly racist and if you ask black people most would agree with Me. Next, I did not like the statement that 96% of the current players could not qualify under NCAA guidelines, which was based on 8 to 9 year old data. To use data from before Richt had been hired without stating that the data was old is dishonest. UGA has a program put into effect now to allow players that graduate from high school and enroll early to get their degrees a semister ahead of schedule so they can graduate in Dec and use the extra time to prepare for the NFL combines. Richt uses this as a selling point when sitting down with a recruit and his family. Kids that can’t qualify don’t graduate early, and Richt really wants recruits that can enroll in January.
By Now There You Go Shane
October 15, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Shane,
Very well put. You were complete and totally credible.
You made you point and have left this discussion on an up side, which very much favors your position. There is no more to say. YOU WIN!
By Vin Stooly
October 15, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
I agree. Johnson should stay at Vandy. He could never get low enough to compare with “Cheatin’ Charlie” Pell or “O’ Danny” Ford. Also while Ga has very respectable admissions standards, PLS don’t compare the football teams’ GPAs. Apples and Oranges.
By Crawford Taylor
October 15, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this
Clemson bought that National Championship, they went on probation following that season. They haven’t been close since.
By Ain't that a Shane
October 15, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Hey Shane, Why don’t you list the classes these exceptional student athletics are taking? I’m not impressed with a high GPA in basket weaving.
By Vin Stooly
October 15, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
My freshman niece just took a course called The History of Rock & Roll at UGA. I kid you not! I can guarantee there is not no such thing even comparable at GT.
By Tommy Bow Wow den
October 15, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
You Dont Know Jack…. Mehoff if you were paying attention you would have seen that I have asked CMR to be a part of his inept coaching staff the very day I quit Clemons ahem I mean Clemson. If he couldn’t replace BOO BOO the clown or Willie Vanillie then I would like to be his new strength and conditioning coach. Even though Im a wormy fella I thought I could improve UGAs walking wounded . Shucks with all the mouting injuries UGA has and since my pride has been wounded I thought it would be a great fit. I think I could persuade CMRs son Jon to come to his senses and return with me to UGA too!
By shane#1
October 15, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
I am sorry, but I do not have the schedules for 99 football players on hand. I will have that information tomorrow. Scheeeeesssshhhh! If anyone’s kid comes home from school with head lice I know where they can find some nit-pickers!
By free Bowden Bowl tickets
October 15, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
HAS CLEMSON ever been smart?
By murfdawg
October 15, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this
The stats on the “special Admissions” may be correct due to the unrealistic standard for admission to UGA. My son was a walk-on, special admit in 2006. He graduated from a Fayette County high school, with a 3.4 gpa and 1220 on his SAT. One of his friends had a 4.2 and 1400 SAT and did not get accepted. He is now at Tech. Special Admission is not what it used to be. UGA is so difficult to get into. Relax Dawg haters and find something else to whine about.
By MidnightRambler
October 15, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
Clemson Recruits Back Out! Link:
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/oct/14/clemsonrecruitsback_out57769/
The coaching turmoil at Clemson should help Tech next year and down the road.
By Bill Holmes
October 16, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this
Tony, you are right about both Bobby Johnson and Will Muschamp. I don’t know if Clemson will get them, but they are both great coaches. Bobby has proved that beyond doubt with what he has acomplished at Vanderbilt- phenominal. Will is one of two former Georgia players that are becoming fabulous coaches. Both are extremely intelligent and great recruiters. They both recognized what a brilliant defensive mind Nick Saban possessed and sought and are still seeking to receive as much tutoring as possible there. Saban learned from Belicheck(sp?) who learned from Parcells. Wayne McDuffie and Jim Donnan both told me Parcells was the best defensive coach they’d ever been around. So, that coaching pedigree line is highly respected in the football world. Will is a few years ahead of Kirby, but Kirby is on the same track. Both love Georgia, as do I, and either would love to be Head Coach at Georgia down the road, when Coach Richt gets ready to retire. Both will be head coaches elsewhere soon, so all of you will have a chance to see them succeed. I have no doubts about either of them. I believe we now have the best head coach at Georgia that we have ever had; and, I believe he is in the top 5 best coaches in America. When he does decide to retire, Georgia will hopefully be fortunate enough to be in a position to go after one of these two future great head coaches. Both come from great families with fathers who were great coaches and they have become great coaches and family men already. There are others out there who may do as well, but since Tony brought up Will, I thought I’d give those of you who may be interested, but not up to date on them, current status on these two fine coaches and the top notch coaching pedigrees they are building for themselves. The Texas folks are already crazy about Will and The Alabama folks are starting to discover how good Kirby is. Bob Stoops, another defensive guru, commented prior to the Texas-Oklahoma game how he could tell from looking at film that Will Muschamp had made a huge difference already in the quality and discipline of the defensive play at Texas…then, of course, Texas wins against an `unstoppable’.. Oklahoma team. Enough said (thought I’d put that in in response to a couple of lame comments about Will not doing well against us). No need to look any further down the road when Coach Richt decides he’s won enough National Titles, and there will be several, sooner rather than later. go Dogs
By rod
November 5, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
bobby johnson would be worst hire ever in clemson history…how could u ever say that would be a good hire