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DEL.ICIO.USFranklin firing raises a lot of questions about Tuberville, Auburn
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tommy Tuberville said last night after practice that he fired offensive coordinator Tony Franklin on Wednesday simply for “a lack of production.” No argument here. Auburn was ranked 104th nationally in total offense and had scored 3, 14, and 13 points in its last three games. So there is no question that the new attack under spread offense guru Franklin was not producing.
Last Saturday Auburn took a 13-0 lead by simply lining up in two tight ends and running the ball. Then Vanderbilt made a couple of adjustments and Auburn went back to its spread attack. The Tigers did not score again and had only four yards rushing in the second half, losing 14-13. After the game, media reports showed a confused and frustrated Auburn team.
But the timing of the announcement raises many more questions than it answers and some of those questions go to the core of the Auburn football program. Here’s five of those burning questions as we head into one of the biggest weekends of the season:
1. Why fire Franklin less than 24 hours after giving him a vote of confidence?: On Sunday when I talked to Tuberville privately, he said there would not be any radical changes in the offense other than to further simplify things. On Tuesday at his press briefing he again stated that there would be no staffing changes and that, and I’m paraphrasing here, Tony Franklin was his guy and he was committed to the offense. Tuberville insisted last night that there was no incident and no additional source of conflict between the two men. But by Wednesday morning Tuberville had determined that Franklin had to go—right now.
2. Auburn had an open date coming up. Why not wait until then? As bad as the offense was, the Tigers probably could have muddled through and beaten Arkansas, whose defense is ranked 112th in scoring, giving up 38 points per game. Then Auburn had an open date before the trip to West Virginia on Thursday, Oct. 23. Why not wait until the off week and do it then? Something obviously changed between Tuberville’s press briefing on Tuesday and Wednesday when he met with the team about 4:30 p.m. to announce that Franklin had been released. If it wasn’t a personal conflict between Tuberville and Franklin, then what was the source of change?
3. Does this abrupt firing mean there is a larger problem within the Auburn program?: Teams can start dividing over several issues but usually it comes from one of two sources: One side of the ball doesn’t believe the other side is holding up their end of the deal. You’ll understand if the Auburn defense, ranked No. 7 nationally at 248.83 yards per game, was less than enamored with the performance of its offense, which was 104th in yards (309.27 ypg) and 103rd in scoring (18.67 points per game). It was also clear that the head coach wanted to see more of Kodi Burns at quarterback over Chris Todd, who Franklin clearly thought was the best to run his offense. If the coaching staff was split over the quarterback position, it’s a pretty good bet the team was as well. You have to wonder if some people from within the team or within the staff came to Tuberville and let him know there was something going on.
4. Does Tuberville have a trust issue here?: The Auburn fans are frustrated because the Tigers began the season as a Top 10 team and were excited by the new offense based on what they had seen in the win over Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. But for Tuberville to say that he was staying the course on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday only to fire Franklin on Wednesday left a lot of Auburn fans angry. They want some answers. They want to know if Tuberville simply made a bad decision to bring in the spread offense or was the bad decision to hire Franklin as the guy to implement it. The spread was a pretty radical departure from Auburn’s football philosophy under Tuberville and it’s clear that every phase of the offense—not just quarterback—was having adjustment problems. The offensive line, which was young last season but showed a lot of promise for 2008, kept making mistakes. Hugh Nall is one of the best offensive line coaches in the country but this offense asked the big guys to do a lot of new things. It clearly wasn’t working for anybody.
5. How does this impact recruiting and the future of this program?: When it’s Auburn, big decisions like this always have to be viewed in the context of what is going on in Tuscaloosa. And right now Nick Saban has quickly rebuilt the program and Alabama is now ranked No. 2. The way Saban and his staff are recruiting, it’s only going to get better for Alabama. In my conversations with Tuberville he was always candid about why he hired Franklin last December in order to install the spread offense. Tuberville was convinced that the offense would help him in recruiting. It is an offense, when run correctly, that players enjoy because it gives them a chance to put their athletic skills on display. It’s fun. Running between the tackles is not especially fun. He believed this offense would open some additional recruiting doors and, given what is happening at Alabama, Tuberville needed as many recruiting options as possible.
Tuberville said yesterday that he is still committed to the spread offense. He has to be. His 2009 recruiting class is basically done and the offensive guys were recruited to run the spread. But don’t you think this move would make some of those verbal commitments start having second thoughts?
Tommy Tuberville is a very good coach. In nine seasons at Auburn the Tigers have won or shared the Western Division title five times. He survived a coup attempt in 2003 and in 2004 went undefeated, won the SEC championship, and should have gotten a shot at the national championship. He has beaten Alabama, Auburn’s bitter rival, an unprecedented six straight times.
But it will take all of Tuberville’s skill, both coaching and politically, to get this thing out of the ditch. Part of the Auburn fan base sees this as an act of desperation by Tuberville to save himself. They believe that if Tuberville hitched his wagon to Franklin for the rest of the season, the two would ultimately have gone down together. That’s why Tuberville had to throw Franklin under the bus.
Others see Franklin’s firing as a bold, decisive act that could not wait because, as difficult as it was and as bad as it looks from a PR standpoint, it was the best thing for the program.
Tuberville’s task for the rest of this season is to make the case that the second point of view is the accurate one. He must also do this while winning enough games to keep his fan base from revolting. It’s a very tall order, but that’s why SEC coaches get paid the big bucks.
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By baloney
October 9, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
Tubberville is overrated as a coach. Good coach, but his teams generally underachieve. Sure he had an undefeated a 3 years back. But why didn’t he play for the NC? Cause it was against a cupcake schedule.
By Hulk Hogan
October 9, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Where is Roswell Ed? Can’t help but notice his lack of mindless dribble. What’s wrong Ed? Did the commodores upset you a little last weekend?
By athens DAWG
October 9, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Tony, why dont you pick up the phone and ask quetions like a real reporter would. 1. Who kicked Franklins rear end in the staff meeting. There was a brawl and you know it!
Why did it happen, the brawl? Who is Tubberville covering for? Nall, Emsinger, Grann?
Ask who really runs that program?
Ask if Franklin will be on the “hush” fund with the past coaches, so he won’t spill the beans on that wretched program.
Ask some real questions Tony, we would like to know, afterall he said Franklin was fired for lack of production then states they will stick with the spread because it’s showing improvement. Hmmm, interesting contradiction!
By JC
October 9, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Sounds like a Bobby Lowder involvement to me.
By Confused Tigger
October 9, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
Can anyone confirm the whereabouts of Bobby Petrino? We need you!
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Auburn has had team disunity problems since August, when fights were breaking out on the practice field and players began walking away from the program.
Franklin was hired not only to bring the spread offense to Auburn, but to bring players exposed in High School to the Tony Franklin System.
Rumors from Lee County are that there was, indeed a fracas between Franklin and Tuberville yesterday. This probably only hastened the inevitable.
The big question now is the fate of Coach Tuberville. Who would replace him if he leaves at the end of the season?
By m
October 9, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Maybe Tubby will go after Chan Gailey for offensive coordinator?! After all, Tech stomped auBARN in 2003 and 2005 in spite of having Chan as coach (of course as a typical sec team, auBARN then immediately pulled out of the rest of the 6 game series with Tech). Sec is weak as heck this year. auBARN, Tenn, Ark, Miss. St., Tennessee, South Carolina, ole Miss, all suck completely and the rest of the sec is not much better. Yes the big bad sec is the most over-hyped and overrated conference in history this year. I am going laugh from now on when dook and wake play Vandy tougher than uga and florida. And Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone from Tech forever….hopefully he will end up at auBARN….they deserve him and he deserves them.
By Kenny
October 9, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
Franklin is definitely taking the fall for this one, though it is assuredly Tuberville’s fault. Tuberville implemented a radical new system and would not let Franklin bring in any new offensive coaches with him.
There are position coaches at every position that have no clue how to run the spread, or coach their players to run the spread. These position coaches almost certainly helped undermine Franklin’s ability to coach. These coaches have been with Tuberville since his days at Ole Miss.
It is time for major overhaul on the offensive staff. It is almost unfathomable that Auburn may not have a single skill position player that will be drafted to the NFL. The program has clearly done a poor job of developing players on that side of the ball, and it is time the staff and Tuberville takes responsibility for this, and clean house!
By Dallas Dawg
October 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Tubberville is the biggest POS in college football!
By GW
October 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
TT goes thru coordinators like Congress goes thru money. Tony, question #1 is the key here. Was TT told to get rid of Franklin or be gone himself at season’s end? 04 has become a long time ago and the powers that be at Auburn may be getting restless. Is Lowder still in the picture there?
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
m,
Rumor has it that Pat Dye has scheduled a meeting with Paul Johnson.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
October 9, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
Obviously there is more to the story. More than likely a verbal altercation. Auburn did not have the personel to run Franklins Spread O. Ask Michigan and Coach Rodriguez how important Spread Players are. Auburn should have expected a some growing pains this season in the transition. Tuberville needs to clarify this situation further. Everyone talked in the preseason how great of a Coach this Frankln was since he got Troy to hang 500xyds on UGA last season, this guy didn’t forget how to coach and teach this system overnight.
GOO DAWGS!!!
By SecIsFootball
October 9, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
Tony…I dont think it raises as many questions as it does answers them about Tuberville. The AU football team right now is a train wreck and Lowder is looking for a reason to get Tubs out of there. Has been since Jet gate. He sees his program heading south and is desperate to salvage something althought it looks un-salvagable. Look for AU to finish 7-5….AT BEST…this season.
By Eric1
October 9, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
Obviously coach Tuberville is doing what he thinks is best for the program. He doesn’t need to save himself. He’s a multi millionaire and a proven successful professional. He could have his choice of jobs across the country. So the idea that he’s sacrificing Franklin to save his own skin is ridiculous. He’s a good coach, he has been and will continue to be good for Auburn. He deserves the support of all who love Auburn. War Damn Eagle!!! And…good riddance to Mr. Franklin.
By LSU DAN
October 9, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
It all began for me when he stated ” he would play Jason Campbell if you wanted him to run a high school offense”,. How many breaks does this guy get for always throwing someone else under the bus and humiliating the kids who play for him.
He is a $hitball!
By RICK
October 9, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Franklin is a slob in his dress and appearance and Tuberville hired him.
I do not believe Tuberville dismissed Franklin because of his system or his lack of understanding the principles of the spread. But rather because Franklin did not get the overall picture of how to game plan against SEC defenses (to get a win).
Tuberville will have a difficult time hiring a good offensive coordinator after this debacle. Job security is paramount for assistant coaches, and there is not much job security on the plains right now.
Yes the spread is the trend, but it does not go well with Tuberville’s aproach and philosophy to winning college football games. He even admitted as much when he said he went to the spread because it would help recruiting and is fun to the players.
You do not change your entire approach when you have been as succesful as Tuberville. Not even to keep up with the team over in Tuscaloosa.
By David
October 9, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Tony, you are dead on with point #3. This is what happened at Tennessee in the 5-6 season of 2005. Some players wanted Erik Ainge at qb and some wanted Rick Clausen. Fulmer wanted Ainge and offensive coordinator Randy Sanders wanted Clausen. The defense split from the offense. The team went into the tank, Sanders resigned, and the season blew up. Tuberville may have seen the same thing coming to the Plains.
By RICK
October 9, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Auburn has not had SEC caliber RB’s, WR’s or QB’s since the days of Jason Campbell.
Their skill position recruiting stinks.
By Columbus Dawg
October 9, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Auburn being Auburn.
When you have players that cant even read how do you expect them to understand a new offense? Seriously!
By JackP
October 9, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Bush caused it.
By BigDaddy
October 9, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Yet another scalp claimed by Vandy. Spurrier is on his way out courtesy of the black and gold. Next comes the big orange caribou…the trap will be baited with doughnuts.
By Got 12?
October 9, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
Bama’s probation and its lingering effects are almost gone, and things are returning to normal.
Bama’s success on the field and in recruiting precipitated Franklin’s hiring. It was a gimmicky move that would probably have worked if Tubberville had stuck with it.
By Joe Mac
October 9, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
Baloney — 2004 a cupcake schedule? Auburn played, and beat, more Top 25 teams than Oklahoma or USC. Georgia — top 10 team LSU — top 10 team Tennessee (twice) Virginia Tech — top 10 team
Oklahoma’s tough games — Texas, um, um … Mizzou or Kansas weren’t that good then and Okie State gave em fits.
Having Citadel on the AU schedule was a meaningless scrimmage and replacing them with another mid-major like Oklahoma had (Houston or Bowling Freakin’ Green) would have resulted in another AU win anyway. Cupcake schedule … This is the SEC. There are no cupcake schedules.
By Eric1
October 9, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
What’s a Goo Dawg? Is that anything like a Goo Goo Cluster? Dan probably loves Leslie Miles but he thinks Tuberville is a $hitball. Good one Dan. That’s rich!
By FLA DAWG
October 9, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
The spread offense has run its course in college ball with limited success. Why Tuberville hired Franklin and dedicated himself to the spread is beyond me.
I don’t blame the Auburn players and fans for their disgust. There is great talent on that team. But this year it has been neutralized by their own coaches.
By saint nick
October 9, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
TT wears Saban pajamas!!He’s getting his a$$ kicked in recruiting, and he will duck hunting while Saban is racking up 4 and 5 stars!!!!
By 2N4YEARS
October 9, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
It’s a little of ‘All of the Above’. Terribleville was trying to save his own job, and this will buy him some time. He also had a lot of ‘internal’ gripping. You can’t have that, and he took the easy way out. What probably brought this to light before the ARK game & the off-week is some type of disagreement between the two. It would have been smarter to wait until after the ARK game, because if you were to drop this game now the pressure is now back on TT. If he would have waited, Franklin could’ve been a scape-goat for one more game. I suppose there were some ‘choice words’ that made this happen sooner rather than later. Bottom line: Terribleville knows he’s ion trouble. It’s gonna be a long off-season in the state of Alabama, especially after that Thanksgiving game. I imagine Ole TT will keep his hands in his pockets all Winter.
By Marietta Ed
October 9, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Auburn is still the greatest football team in history.
WDE !
By GeoffDawg
October 9, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Where’s everyone’s favorite blowhard Roswell Ed? Shouldn’t he be applying his powerful analytical abilities to this situation?
By Got 12?
October 9, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Joe Mac,
You are right about Auburn’s 2004 schedule compared to Oklahoma’s and USC’s.
The reason Auburn did not play for the national championship is (nationally) no one likes or respects their program. Yesterday’s debacle will not help in that regard.
By Preceptress
October 9, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
The defense is great, the offense is poor. It was encouraging to see a mix of spread with some ole time grind it out ball last week. Burns vs. Todd in the staff meeting must have blown up. Definitely Tommy wants to beat Petrino’s butt.
By GeoffDawg
October 9, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
2N4YEARS, at first I was thinking that your post was off base because how could Tuberville possibly be on the hot seat given his win-loss record and his winning streak against Bama? However, with his extremely contentious relationship with the powers that be at Auburn, you may have hit the nail on the head. They may be looking for any excuse to can his butt.
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
All of you are missing the point.
Tuberville wants out.
After Jetgate, he secured a contract that guaranteed his job security. In return, he had to give Auburn a huge buyout in the event that he chose to leave Auburn.
That is what prevented him from being hired after the 2007 season ended. He can’t afford to resign. He needs to be fired.
If this boondoggle isn’t a firing offense, then I don’t know what is. I suspect that he already has a job lined up somewhere. Probably at Texas A&M.
By Erk
October 9, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Roswell Ed, care to chime in? During preseason you said Auburn was going to win the NC with Franklin’s spread. I thought Auburn played smash mouth pretty well. Why change that? Lowder has got to be somehow involved in this firing situation.
By saint nick
October 9, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
The Streak Ends Nov 29!!!!!!!!Our streak begins Nov 29!!!Bama is BCS BOUND!!!!
By Mr Wrestling#2
October 9, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Better them than us—Go Dawgs!
By JB
October 9, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
AU has always won by having a stout defense and a power running game to control the ball and clock. They have none now. Satan cleaning his clock in recruiting ain’t helping. CMR in Athens keeping the cream at home rather in Auburn. TT losing passion for the game ?
By Roswell Ed
October 9, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
You stupid dawg fans don’t get it do you. We are returning to prominence with the release of franklin. You should be shaking in your boots mutts.
TT will control the offense now, wait till we put a hurting on your sorry program.
WDE
By everettvet
October 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Tony Franklin is an amazing offensive coordinator! His spread offense works and it is a disgrace the way he has been treated in Auburn. TT should be smart enough to realize that in order to implement this new offense Auburn would need position coaches and also time to recruit players who had the skill and ability to run this offense. I hope Auburn never wins another game with TT.
By South Georgia Nole
October 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
I hear that Jeff Bowden is still looking for a job. Maybe he can bring his “Rainbow Offense” to the plains.
By EW
October 9, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Funny how silent Roswell Ed has been since the season started and AU showed its true colors.
By GeoffDawg
October 9, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Thanks for that scintillating insight Ed. Care to explain how a coach who made his name with defense will improve the offense?
By Erk
October 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
South Georgia Nole, from what I hear, there may be another Bowden available if Clemson loses to Wake tonight.
By Dawg75
October 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Richt needs to do the same thing for our offense and defense. If they can not produce then they need to get out. Good job Tuberville. TO be a winner you have to have a coaching staff that can handle thier job and make good calls.
By Tim
October 9, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Given that one of Tuberville’s first acts as Aubrun head coach was to buy out of the FSU game, you have to wonder how good he really is…
By steverino
October 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
By Big daddy Next comes the big orange caribou…the trap will be baited with doughnuts LMFAO
By SGT CHRIS
October 9, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
FUNNY TUBERVILLE SCHEDULED WEST VA THIS YEAR..NOW HE GETS TO SEE HOW ITS DONE WHEN PAT WHITE RUNS FOR 200 AND THROWS FOR 200 AGAINST THEM….AS THE CASE WITH AUBURN, MICHIGAN WERE WILLING TO LIVE WITH RODRIGUEZ THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE IS STILL PLAYING WITH LLOYD CARR’S PLAYERS, BUT WHEN HE GET HIS PLAYERS IN, MICHIGAN WILL BE A TOP TEN TEAM AGAIN…JUST WISHED TUBERVILLE WAS MORE PATIENT
By Good Riddance Auburn
October 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
It was a stupid hire to begin with and Tuberville is reaping what he sowed. He’s always looking for the quick and easy fix. This man has no patience. The instability of his coaching staff will catch up to him in a big way this year. The wheels are falling off and they finish 7-5 if they’re lucky. You can’t go through assistant coaches like disposable diapers and expect to build a stable and consistent program. Auburn football is officially on an indefinite hiatus until further notice. Good day.
By joe
October 9, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Has anyone noticed that UT is in the same boat? My biggest question, now that TT has pulled the rug out from under his OC, was he smart or stupid for doing it now? Think Fulmer is watching this play out? If TT ends up turning this into a smart decision, Fulmer may follow suit by firing his new OC. If TT ends up dying over this, Fulmer will have his new OC stay on…interesting…
By Jerry
October 9, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Well I am glad TT saw the light so he can get back to running the ball and have old time Auburn football humming by the time the Dawgs visit the Plains of Alabama. It looks like one the Dawgs were counting on Auburn being an easy win, but now that game has become a potential war as usual.
Looks like things are just not breaking the Dawgs way in 2008. No National Championship, no SEC championship and Vandy will probably whip them to take the SEC East crown. Maybe Richt can be TT’s offensive coordinator next season when the Mutts run his butt off for not fufilling their dream of an undefeated season. It’s just not right that they have already lost a game and the sesson is not even half over. Here is hoping the loss many more.
By BamaRules
October 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Bama will start dominating the state this year, like the old days. Tuberville’s washed up and he can’t get good coaches anymore to work for him. Auburn’s best days are past. Look for a good alabama beatdown this year. Saban will have the top recruiting class in America, while Auburn struggles to stay in the top 30. Alabama—back at the top, where they belong. Roll Tide!!!
By Missman
October 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Can you spell M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N? Finally, the Auburn plague on the conference is over and done with. They have officially joined the ranks of the mediocre.
—CMG
By dawgpile in the endzone
October 9, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
I guess Tub posted an Ad in the campus paper for an OC on a week to week basis.
Is there a temp agency for OC’s in college football?
Call 1-800-tempOC
By kpsoileau
October 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
I’ve watched Tubby since his days at Ole Miss. His ego is so big that NO assistant coach can EVER get attention which competes with his. Anyone who has a problem with that must go. Look at his track record - it shows that exactly. If the offense had turned out great, then Franklin would just last a little longer than he did this way.
No giant change in offenses can take place over a very short time. It was not a mistake to hire Franklin, it was a mistake to think that he could change the offense so quickly. Either way, Franklin was doomed from the start (as any other upstart ego would be.)
By Miles
October 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
The only thing more intriguing than the fact that Tuberville got rid of Franklin is that Mr. Barnhart is suprised by this. For a coach to say one thing (“I’m sticking with Franklin!”) and then to do something else (“Franklin’s gone!”), i.e., hypocrisy, is nothing new to college sports.
By biblehiker
October 9, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Tuberville has gone through several coaches on his staff, but still has not shown any improvement toward a national championship. You can not build a team hiring and firing your staff every time your job is at stake. It is not that Tuberville can’t recruit. The guy has incredible talent in each recruiting class. With this being said, Tuberville has had his chance. Get a new head coach.
By Scott
October 9, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Tuberville is a great coach, imo. I am a Dawg but I give Tubs his due on the field. However I have heard some things about his personality from people that played for him at Ole Miss and AU. Anyway, the program is ok, I think Hugh Nall should be in charge of the offense again, and don’t worry the tigers will beat Bama again this year, just wait and see.
By RICK
October 9, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Roswell ED,
So what you are telling us “Stupid Dawg Fans” is that you are proud of your beloved Auburn program and coaching staff.
A return to prominence by dismissing the OC that you promised would bring your program a NC.
Mr. Ed, if you do not face reality you will soon be in Greenleaf. (house of nervous break downs).
By legalbuzz
October 9, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
From the outside looking in this is strange…..There was a time when the sole goal at Auburn was to beat Bama. TT has done that 6 times in a row and 7 of 8. You would think beating your rival 7/8 times would make you pretty safe in the coaching world. I know any Uga coach would be safe beating UF 7/8 times, any GT coach would be safe beating UGA 7/8 times, any Texas Coach would be safe beating OU 7/8 times, yet this reaks of desperation by TT.
Is the heat cranked that high on the Plains? IS the fact that Bama has the momentum and press right now really pushing that many buttons. Sure Bama may be back but it is not exactly like Auburn is suddendly a horrible team. TT has closed the once wide open gap in the series. Bama isn’t going to roll of 6 in a row unless Auburn does something stupid and gets itself back to the stone ages (like chasing a good coach out of there and getting a second rate one). Sure TT is a mercenary, but you knew that when you took him from Ole Miss. You knew he was going to hold you hostage each off-season but then again after that stunt with Petrino, who can blame him. He has put some pop back into your program and yet you want to let your powerful alum try to chase him out of town (again). If you do that, you get what you deserve…
That said, maybe I am off base and maybe Frankin just p** off someone too much…strange indeed…
By SHUG
October 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Auburn has’nt had the same offensive coordinater for more than one year since Tuberville took over, so whats new. Auburn will still beat the bama babbies.
By SEC Fan
October 9, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
**The spread does not belong at Auburn - this was a bad idea from the start. Rebbot with a conventional offense and muddle through the rest of the year.
Calling Patrick Nix?**
By IM4BAMA
October 9, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
You got to hand it to Tubberville for knowing how keep his job and always have a fall guy take the blame for him. This is still the beginning of the end for Tubbs. The tide has offically turned in the state of Alabama and Auburn is resuming it’s rightfull place.
It seemed logical to hire Frankling after what his offense at Troy accomplished and against UGA. The problem with his offense at Auburn has been; the offensive line can’t hold a block,give the QB’s time and both QB’s suck anyway. Todd, may know the offense but can’t get the ball to recievers accurately or quickly enough. Burns is great on his feet but can’t stay in the pocket and make a throw. No matter who’s running the offense, it will suck because of personel on the offensive line and QB’s.
By Ryno
October 9, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
Embarassing Tubs. You hire a spread coach with a defined system and you expect it to work perfectly with leftover power football players and coaches. You stupid, stupid man. Not even a season. AND you tell everyone you want to keep the spread? What for? You fired the only guy on the staff mentally capable of running it. The only comfort an Auburn fan can take is that you are left holding the bag and will reap what you sow by getting canned in about eight weeks. Just don’t expect any sympathy cards from all the coordinators you’ve thrown under the bus.
By Angus
October 9, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I will bet you a million dollars, that when Tuberville put a “can’t talk to the press” gag order on Tony, thats when the dung hit the fan. Tony is a, treat me like a man, and I’ll do the same to you, kind of guy. Auburn will regret this move, good luck Tony.
By TC
October 9, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Obnoxious tide fans showing their frustration over getting their butts kicked 6 years in a row and counting. WDE!!
By BASEBALL KEN
October 9, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
What Coach T has done is make it very hard for Auburn. Not only has he got recruits wondering about Auburn, he is going to have young ,bright coaches thinking HARD before taking a job at Auburn. This thing could backfire in his face and leave AU as a program without any quality coaches because of stability.
By BASEBALL KEN
October 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
What Coach T has done is make it very hard for Auburn. Not only has he got recruits wondering about Auburn, he is going to have young ,bright coaches thinking HARD before taking a job at Auburn. This thing could backfire in his face and leave AU as a program without any quality coaches because of stability.
By Joel in ATL
October 9, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Well I fault them both and I’ll stand behind Tubbs in the end. Why fault them both? Franklin shouldn’t have taken the job IF he KNEW going in he couldn’t bring any “spread” coaches with him. Tubbs should have known that up front anyway that if your going to switch it up as quickly as possible it’s going to take personnel and the right staff.
Yet on the toher end you can make all the jokes you want about Tubbs, he is still a winner. Tubbs carries weight and if he an Frnaklin got into it that’s fine and Franklin probably was feed up with it anyway. Keepin’ up with the Saban’s isn’t always the best thing. Personally I think the spread is going to get old soon anyway becasue the only qb’s your going to get are going to be “running/athletic” qb’s anyway and the defenses in the SEC will figure it out soon, very soon. Bang on Tubbs all you want but he will get it right and hey if he loses to Bama this year he still has a winning record versus them anyway so he’s not going anyway. Like Tony said, that’s why they get paid the big bucks. Another thing is they really didn’t want to take thier version of the spread up to WVU and get “embrassed”, think abou tthat for a minute.
Good move Auburn but rest assure the other 11 coaches int he SEC are gonna hit you up for a couple of recruits.
By BJohnDawg
October 9, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Where is Carmen Diego…and Where is Roswell Ed*
Aubum radical Roswell Ed…You team has been Beaten by Vandy, had a baseball win over Miss State, has lost to LSU..and still has to face Georgia,WVU, Ole Miss, Alabama.
How many games can you lose and still win that National Championship you claimed Auburn would win this year.
You guys could easily lose another 3-4 games before the end of the year. Yeap could go 2-4 the rest of the way and finish at 6-6. Oh Auburn is the S&^t. In more ways then one.
Toilet bowl for you guys.
By The Mighty Trojan Death Machine
October 9, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
If the it’s the system that doesn’t work, then how can a sub-par (in the eyes of Allbarn fans) Troy team score 30+ points against Georgia and Florida and put up 300+ yards at Ohio State?
I hope Bobby Louder runs his bank better than he does Allbarn.
By jc_atl
October 9, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
I love all the mind readers on here claiming to know exactly what went down on the Plains yesterday. My suspicion is that as any coach would, Tuberville went into this week’s practice with the belief that CTF was still the guy to run the offense. Should CTT have let CTF bring in his own staff? Probably, but that’s no excuse for the offense getting worse as the season progressed. CTF had the entire spring practice to get the offense playing better than they have been. My suspicion is that CTF is a good coach, but not SEC caliber when it comes to beating SEC defenses.
I mean the schizophrenic offense we saw against Vandy says that Tubs wanted to see what happened doing it the old-school Auburn way, and easily put up 13 (should have been 14 but for a missed PAT), and then when they went back to the Franklin spread everything ground to a halt as the players were confused as to what they were doing - this is coaching and it was CTF’s job to not have the team show up for a game playing this poorly.
I think that Auburn will beat Arkansas this weekend and we will limp through the rest of the season, probably not play a significant bowl, and CTT will make a much better hire. Or, we won’t win another except the Homecoming game, and CTT will be gone after this season. Hard to say …
By Mary
October 9, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Honestly from reviewing all these comments from auburn fans, makes me sick. Mr Tuberville has done wonders with Auburns Football program and brought it miles away from where we were before he started with us. If he did fire the offensive Coordinator, it wasnt by just his judgement. I dont think he was throwing him under the bus and all of that BS. Something happened behind close doors that we all(the public and the fans) dont know about. Yes, I do agree the plug should have maybe been pulled on an off week but you know what we really havent been doing much on the field with The Guy anyway. So how do you think he was going to help us this Saturday? Please. Lets get back to reality and stop freaking out because of a decision that was made. Who knows it may help us in the long run. Just relax and sit back and watch. What happened to the days where watching football was fun and not such a media field day anyway.
By Bk Hawk
October 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Tubs can coach my team anytime. Its all got to do with wins…Tub is not a loser, he will right the program if he has to fire all the Coaches. The same as all you bloggers would do to win. God Bless USA.
By Dawg Muzzle
October 9, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
I love hearing all the hate out of what is clearly the Dawg nation. Just remember that you will suck it when you come to Jordan Hare. All your big talk will become a lump in your throat when Auburn kicks your lousy tails.
War Eagle!
By YUP
October 9, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
This just in - Roswell Ed named offensive coordinator at Auburn. Film at 11:00!
By blackprix
October 9, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Who cares about Auburn!
Let’s talk more about what Paul Johnson is doing for Georgia Tech!!!!!!
By merculf
October 9, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
I always felt Franklin was more of a consultant to Auburn than a coach. I never liked the fact that everyone would refer to as either “Aubrn football” or “Tony Franklin football”. It is always “Auburn Football”! He never seemed to be part of the team. He was always quick to take the blame for everything and seemed to be a little bit of a push over. He didn’t seem to have any real control over the the other coaches or his offence. Tubberville has put together many good seasons and has done it with several “new” coordinaters almost every year. Bama fans are not so sure about what to expect this year now. They were hoping Franklin was still on board when Auburn returns to their home away from home in November! War eagle!
By tracecrossings
October 9, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
This is almost to good to be true. Bama is once again on top, Auburn is imploding as I write and Fat A* Phil will finally get tossed at UT (although I hope they keep him).
I thought AU had finally developed an identity but I should have known…they are and always will be a second tier program that is completely paranoid when it comes to the University of Alabama.
By CommunistAJC
October 9, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
baloney, Auburn 04 played a cupcake schedule? That’s news to me my idiot troglodyte friend. They beat 5 top ten teams that year. USC played two ranked teams the entire year. One in which Auburn beat. How many teams have gone undefeated in the SEC in the past 20 years? How many? Huh moron? FOUR. AUBURN TWICE, TENNESSEE ONCE AND ALABAMA IN 92. Go sell stupid somewhere else you moron. Also, if you bring up the Citadel, um, you can shove that crap back up your 400 lb arse because Bama plays them this year.
By Doug Patterson
October 9, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Barnhart says Auburn beat Alabama an “unprecedented” six times. Is Barnhart too young to know that Alabama beat Auburn nine straight times under Bear? Six times is not “unprecedented” at all.
By Comin' Down The Track
October 9, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Live by the bubblegum offense. Die by the bubblegum offense. The Urban Myth’s uppence is coming.
By enyawnilknarf
October 9, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Well Tubs, this is what you get for trying to stick it to AU for Jetgate. Maybe that pimp agent of yours can send you “hunting” to Arkansas and try to get them to come up with 6 mil for your buyout. Oh sorry, you tried that last year and it didn’t work.Tell Tim Brando e said hey when your on CBS next year.
By Turkey Buzzards
October 9, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Turkey Buzzards you are, Turkey Buzzards you always will be.
By Jake
October 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
This is the best call Tuberville has done all season. Why go from a power running game to a high school spread offense? my point exactly. If it aint broke dont fix it. We did well in the 1st half against vandy running the ball, from what i took of the game was that tuberville wanted to see how we did running the ball in the 1st half and then see what the spead would do in the 2nd half. looks to me like tuberville won the battle between the coaches and that ultimately made his decision even more clear about what he thought of the spread. i know it is tough to fire a coach half way in the season, but if the players are not buying into the system and dont have a sense of urgency then why run the spread. Their defense is outstanding, we need that offensive spark and we will get a good offensive coordinator in there i can garantee you that.
By YUP
October 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
This just in - Roswell Ed fired as offensive coordinator at Auburn. Even more film at 11:00!
By atubadudeuk
October 9, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
I find it interesting that reports circulating yesterday said that Franklin was more animated than usual in AU’s practice and then a day later he gets canned. Franklin probably realized that he needed to get his act together in a hurry…especially with TT’s track record with coordinators. It was a little too late. This was a train wreck waiting to happen.
AU’s offense has been abysmal in recent years and in order to increase productivity, TT made a bad move and went out on a limb with the spread. Too bad AU doesn’t have a personnel to run Franklin’s offense or let alone throw the football. Just look at their past year’s successes with the passing game.
Changes in coaching philosophy don’t equate results overnight. Bad move for Tubs to hire Franklin in the 1st place, but even worse to not give him the time to get the right personnel in to run his system. These things take time…look at Rich Brooks at UK. Took him 4 years to even have a winning season. As a result, now UK is playing Alabama closer than UGAg. With the grumbling of the AU fan base, and in order to not have a complete meltdown somebody had to go, and it was Franklin.
By SM
October 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
I always wonder why this country is in the horrible shape it’s in… and then I read what you people write in here and it all makes sense. Is there a maximum IQ of 80 allowed to be a football fan in the south???
By SickandTired
October 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm Dawg fans making fun of a fired coordinator? Now that’s pretty Dawg Gone funny don’t ya think? Remember a guy named Kevin Ramsey? Oh my how the air heads think they are so good and look down their noses at a “lesser” Auburn University and the truth of the matter is after all the times they’ve played Auburn there is only a miniscule differnence in the head to head records. So logic would tell us that Auburn and Georgia are equal over the long haul. Nothing more, nothing less. As good as you Georgia fans think you’ve got it right now, it could blow up in the next 4 weeks and Saint Mark himself could be on the hot seat.
By SimpleDawg
October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Hey “M”, in addition to sounding like an idiot while trying to talk football….typical for a techead…do you also dress like Judy Dench. She probably knows more about “American Football” than you do. Shut the F up!
By CommunistAJC
October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Doug Patterson. Pull that trailer out of your arse. Bear is dead. Get over and move on. Oh, that’s right, trailer trash, such as yourself can’t help but live in the past. That’s why the state of Alabama is 20 years behind everyone else.
By No Dog In This Hunt
October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Wow, ya’ll are brutal. It is amusing to see Bammer fans talking trash when you haven’t broken the string yet. And what’s up with AU people talking trash to the leg humpers? Right now this is all about taking your medicine.
By Bamafan
October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
The stupid mr. ed could not coach his way out of wet paper bag!! I can’t wait till Bama kicks the crap out of the cow college!! Yet Tubbs has cut ties with Franklin, but i wish we could really find out want happened behind closed doors. Auburn will be lucky to find a good offense cordinator after this mess!! ROLL TIDE AND WAR EAGLE WAS IS THE COMPANY LINE TODAY!! PUT A FINGER IN THE AIR LIKE OBAMA DOES!!
By No BAMA, No O-BAMA
October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Useless chatter from BAMA’s is like useless chatter from the O-bamas.
You can’t radically change an offense unless the entire offensive coaching staff comes with the change. Tubs has had his core guys for several years, my guess is the core guys didn’t buy into the new system so they didn’t take to the changeover very well. I guess Richt and the rent-a-coach in T-town will want to send their “How to run the Spread Offense” DVD’s back for a refund now. Tony looked more like a teacher than a coach anyway, that combover look is hard to sell.
UK showed the Tide to be not quite ready but I hope BAMA wins all the rest so AU can break their little hearts (again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.)
JB
By SugarHillDawg
October 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Hey M, I really am sorry you had to live in Birmingham for 5 years and you Bama fans need to temper your big talk(fat chance of that happenning). You Rubes still have your flags on your soon to be repoed cars around town.I hope you inbreds win the rest of your games and we get another shot at you cheaters. Go DAWGS!!!
By sloan
October 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Tuberville = Classless
By Tracey
October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
BOBBY LOWDER.
Almost got the entire university when the accredidation organization said it was very wrong for him to sit on the Board of Trustees since his BANK had HUGE amounts of credit extended to other members of the board of trustees. (This means he has undue influence over the way those trustees vote.)
IF Auburn loses to Bama this year????
BYE BYE Tubbs. They won’t take that lying down.
By YoungDawg
October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Here’s a scenario assuming Tubberville wants out & thus is trying to get fired in order to get the buyout as well as getting away from Sabin due to recruiting. Could he be positioning himself to take either the Tennessee or Clemson jobs if one or both come open?!? I don’t think he went to Texas A&M due to Texas being such a big factor in recruiting in TX.
By tyler durden
October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
On Tuesday, Tubby said that a drastic change would be a “major disaster.” This will be fun to watch.
By Tracey
October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Sorry, to explain the LOWDER post.
Most hirings and firings occur at Auburn because Bobby Lowder want them to happen.
He is the strongest and most powerful booster in college football. ESPN even wrote an article about that.
He is also the reason that Auburn at one time was paying FOUR football coaches whose contracts were bought out, and the reason Terry Bowden was required to sign a confidentially agreement that said he would not criticise Auburn University, Auburn Athletic Department, Auburn Trustees, etc.
How many times does that happen in the college football world???
It’s a shame……
By JT
October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
This comment is to M…..the SEC is WEAK?????? I know people hate but everyone on THIS planet knows you are severely misinformed!! Name ONE conference who compares?…and who has compared in the past?? PULEEEZE…..SEC RULES!!!!
By murfdawg
October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Is TT setting up his exit from Auburn? He has been in coaching long enough to know how to handle OC and DC.
I agree with some of the other bloggers. This has LOWDER written all over it. Lowder has been embarassed that BAMA outspent him and brought in Saban. Now he is embarassed that Bama is #2 and AU is struggling. I think TT has thrown in the towel and will get out of this soap opera. As much as it pains me to say this, he is a very good coach and deserves more respect than AU is giving him. Stay tuned for the next exciting sequal of “As the War Eagle Turns”
By augirl
October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
I agree with JC. This has Bobby Lowder written all over it.
By baloney
October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Tubberville really IS NOT that good of a coach. He gets a free pass because he is media friendly.Also the reason he didn’t win the NC the undefeated year was because the teams he played were ranked high at the time, but not by years end. remember the deal….it’s not where you start, it’s where you end.Like this year it’s a joke the Auburn was in the top 10 and it’s even more of a joke that they are still in the top 25.
By JAB
October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Maybe Coach Tuberville’s comment about Tony Franklin being a ‘good family man,’ meant that Franklin was determined to spend at least some of his time with his family. Maybe being completely focused on football every waking minute of your life was getting old to coach Franklin. JAB
By Jimmy Rane
October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Yella Fellow here and the REAL reason Tony Franklin got canned is because me and my buddy Bobby Louder got tired of having a piece of Great Southern Wood 2x4 taken to our Offenses head by powerhouses like Miss State and Vandy. You see we here at Auburn are quite delusional into believing because we have beaten Bama six times in a row that we are the greatest team in the SEC. Never mind that Bama has been a shell of themselves or that a team further West of us (see LSU) has been kicking us pretty regularly. And we’ll whistle by the grave on those butt whippings we have taken by UGA the last two years. We still believe in old fashion values here in that if you aren’t getting the job done we’ll either load a jet with our next Coach or we’ll throw you to the street quicker than an Aubbie Co-ed can get undressed. So remember folks if it doesn’t say Yella on the tag then it probably won’t be Coaching here at good ol Allbarn.
By Tater
October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Wow! hating on the Bama fans, what else is new.
Last time I checked, the Dawgs, Hawgs, Tigers, etc in the SEC didn’t just go out on Saturdays and play for the fun of it!!!!
Yes, we are happy that things look better. We have been quite bad recently and YES, perhaps our expectations are a tad higher than the rest of you, but remember, we’ve also been there more than most of you so we naturally expect to win championships, not just games!
Roll Tide!
By Alabama Jack
October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
man, lets watch you and him fight. THWG
By JAB
October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Maybe Coach Tuberville’s comment about Tony Franklin being a ‘good family man,’ meant that Franklin was determined to spend at least some of his time with his family. Maybe being completely focused on football every waking minute of your life was getting old to coach Franklin. JAB
By jjbamaman
October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Tuberville will fire anyone to keep himself from getting fired. He wouldn’t let Franklin run it. He wouldn’t let Franklin bring in the type of assistants needed to coach it. Franklin basically said, “Either let me do it or let me go.”
As an Alabama fan, I love to see aubies act this way. They’re worried. Franklin got screwed over. He should have known better than to go to the “Prettiest little village in the Pasture” in the first place. If it smells like cow-s**, don’t fall in it.
Roll Tide!!!
By hjhj
October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
5 OC’s in 10 years….do you see a pattern here?
By tommy
October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
To the BITTER bama fans when u finally beat AU then u can talk its called bragging rights and u havent had them in 6 count em 6 years and as far as the AUBURN program being on the decline WHATEVER as long as we keep kicking bama butt the program will be right where it needs to be! hey saban recruit all u want we will just go somehwhere other than the state of alabama and get just as talnented guys to beat u! WAR DAMN EAGLE
By hotrod
October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
ATTENTION ROSWELL ED !!! WE KNOW YOU HAVE NOT WEIGHED IN ON THIS YET. THE PERSON THAT BLOGGED EARLIER WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE REAL MR EDD BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE SOMETHING EARTHSHATTERING OR SMARTASSED TO SAY. COME TO THE COMPUTER AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE STILL GOING TO BEAT BAMA AND DAWG NATION. NOT GONNA HAPPEN THIS YEAR MR EDD.6-6 IF YOUR LUCKY, BETTER GO BACK TO RUNNING BETWEEN THE TACKLES,DUMB STUDENTS AT auBARN CANT LEARN THE SPREAD.
By TC
October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Obnoxious BAMMER fans showing their frustration over getting their A*******E$ kicked 6 years in a row and counting. Swami predicts 7 in the future for them. They are amazed by winning games they are supposed to win instead of being embarrassed by the likes of Louisanna Monroe. They are still living in the day of unlimited scholarships where that great coach, uh I can’t even say his name, would tell players “I can’t use you but you have too much talent for me to let you go anywhere else”. I know this because I have a friend that has 2 championship rings and never played a down there. I he could have been a starter anywhere else. That was his DUMB choice. WDE!!
By Doug Patterson
October 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
I make a factual statement and ole “communist” goes bonkers on me with silly name-calling, which anyone could stoop to if they have no facts. Barnhart misstated. Bear is dead. Saban is alive. Roll tide!
By Wait til the season's over
October 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Auburn will come back and surprise a few teams this year. You guys know it!
By Jim
October 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Auburn is just being auburn. They always do crap like this and no one ever cares because they are auburn. They will likely lose their winning streak against Bama this year and continue to be…auburn. They are the little sister to a powerhouse and everything they do is in response to Alabama. Funny I thought auburn always spun things as they were a “family” what a crock!!!
GO DAWGS!
By WDE
October 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Inside sources say Franklin had a moment of insubordination in front of the players, using some incorrect language.
The explanation is pretty simple.
If the head coach is sticking his neck out for you, and you have a moment like that in front of the players, it is instane JOB OVER, YOUR DONE, CLEAN OUT YOUR DESK, FINITO, YOUR FIRED!!!!
Yes, obviously Tuberville wanted to wait until the end of the season. He probably wanted to keep Franklin another year in hoepes the system would get better.
But, the insubordination was the last straw in several instances over the last couple of weeks.
Tuberville is even playing a bigger person by NOT DISCUSSING the details. He’ll continue to take heat for it.
By Mony
October 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Oh Hell, they still have enough to beat UGA and Bama too, as they usually do~~~look it up!
By Monty
October 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Tonight, Tommy Bowden = Gen. Custer
By Jimmy Rane
October 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Tony, Would you care to revisit any pre-season predictions you made for AU and Franklins Offense that were based on Yards gained versus UGA (in a loss and sandwiched between UF and Auburn for UGA) and a W against Clemson that required overtime? Houses made of cards usually come down pretty easy.
By Tracey
October 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Why on earth would any Bama fan be bitter?
Do you see what happens when Auburn has success? Nothing! 13-0 no national title. Michigan goes 13-0 play for the title, Notra Dame goes 13-0 they play for the title, Penn State, and YES, Alabama all get the shot to play for title. WHY?
Because they have an intangible something called a HISTORY that automatically makes voters sit up and take notice when they are undefeated. Doesn’t matter if it’s not recent history, but the name is automatically associated with football greatness.
Auburn, everyone is just surprised. Oh yeah, they have good teams, but still, everyone is surprised by this.
I personally think Auburn got screwed that year because I think if you run the board in the SEC you have actually accomplished something and you deserve to play for the national title.
You can hate Bama all you want and you can whine about Bama all you want, but the truth is, when Bama is good, the SEC gets A LOT more respect in the national media. Same thing happens to Michigan, Penn State, etc. IF they are good, their conferences get a lot more coverage.
Six years is an exceptional run. You should be proud. It may not happen this year, but the gravy train might be ending soon and this “quick” firing is just a symptom of that inferiority complex y’all try so hard to hide. I don’t care who you hire….you will still never learn that you should be the best Auburn you can be, not the best Auburn to try to upstage Alabama.
Roll Tide!
By auuabgrad
October 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
I’ve been waiting patiently for Tubs to get out of Auburn. Then Jetgate enabled him to stay till he wants to leave. Suffice to say I was upset about that because he would have been GONE that year. He has all this awesome talent and manages to screw it up every year.
The Vandy, TN and MSU games were horrendous and were affected primarily by coaching and pitiful play calling.
Please, please, please AU, get rid of Tubs. I don’t care if we lose every game after that for 2-3 years as long as we gain the respect of the powers that be.
BTW—does GA bring UGA VII to away games? I love him.
By John
October 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
As an Auburn season ticket holder, Tigers Unlimited member and alumnus 30 plus years ago, I am in full support of Tuberville and what he did. Tony Franklin was for Tony Franklin and no one else. That doesn’t fly at Auburn. I haven’t found anyone among the fans who I personally know who is upset in the least about Franklin’s departure.
By ted
October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Tommy- 12 count em 12. Now go back and count your wins when Bama was in turmoil. Its over and so is your program. Sounds like you are a little worried and paranoid. Roll Tide
By I WISH I COULD TALK LIKE GATOR CHOMP
October 9, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Maybe Roswell Ed and Gator Chomp are the same people. Both are delusional and both can’t admit defeat.
I’ll admit defeat. My beloved Dawgs are a disappointment at the moment. But they are not out of it yet. Auburn, your out for this year. Rebounding from this will be nothing less than devine intervention. Florida, your still in it as much as it pains me to say it. Maybe not after this week though.
Just embrace reality for once. This same crap happened to Georgia in the Donnan and Goff days. It will pass. Maybe Vandy’s coach will go to Auburn instead of SC. Now that would scare me!
You people wanting to fire Martinez should learn from this Auburn debacle. It doesn’t do a program any good. If you let someone go, you do it after the season is over and better face the fact that it will set you back in recruiting.
Auburn will be back but it might take a while. Auburn has not been bad for a long time. They are due. Its as simple as that.
By Jim S.
October 9, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
How soon the Bammers forget when their team was in disarray and they were the laughing stock of the entire football world. Well, nothing is ever quite a bad as it seems and nothing is ever as good as it seems. Perhaps it’s time they learned some humility again. (pride comes before the fall and they will fall again)
By hotrod
October 9, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED,ROSWELL ED.
By UGA95
October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
I just don’t like these tricked up offenses in any shape form or fashion!!
This is the SEC for Christ’s sake! The SEC gets the top recruits every year. You don’t need to run a trick offense!
Those offenses were introduced to the league by teams that were inferior, trying to do something to give themselves a chance to beat better teams. Problem is… that only works when your defense doesn’t face anything like that all year. But now, everybody is running it, and it’s fairly easy to stop when you are prepared for it! Just look at Florida this year. They are not scary on offense like everyone thought they should be!
By Baghdad Bob
October 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
There was no firing. Tony Franklin will run the offense on Saturday.
Everything is fine here at Auburn.
By CommunistAJC
October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Tracey, Notra Dame? That’s a bama education for you. No wonder the North hates the South. Troglodyte. As for all the Auburn haters on this blog. Screw you. UGA can not win their own division, let alone go undefeated, Bama has not done crap since 92. LSU and Florida are about the only schools who can talk s%$% being that they have actually won the NT in recent years. By the way, it was A FREAKING COMPUTER THAT KEPT AUBURN OUT OF THE NT IN 04. NOT THEIR SCHEDULE. GET IT?
By to baloney
October 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Right. LSU, Georgia, Tennessee (twice). Cupcakes. Oklahoma played real juggernauts, and they always do- those imposing big 12 defenses are great prep for a NC whipping. 55-19? Oklahoma vs LSU? Right.
By Glad I Escaped
October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I smell Lowder …
By saint nick
October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
We have one SECC just like you Aubarn fans since 92, so whats your point????????????????????????
By Bill
October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Tupperware is highly overrated. Any coach would have won lots of games over the past decade at Auburn with the talent they have. In fact, considering the athletes that go to Auburn, Tupperware has been an underachiever.
By balogna
October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
baloney,
You are absolutely wrong about AU’s schedule in 2004. It was actually the toughest schedule of the three undefeateds. A rule change enacted after the 3-way tie the previous year lowered the importance of strength of schedule in the computer ratings.
balogna
By I Hate Booger Eaters
October 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
It’s funny how in this time of crisis, all Auburn fans seemed to be worried about is Alabama. They are the red headed step child of the state and will never, ever surpass the greatness of The Crimson Tide. Auburn fans have an inferiority complex, which is evident by their constant attention to what Alabama is doing at all times. So, you have six in a row. Alabama was on probation and had a few rebuilding years. You will soon see what that is like. Auburn’s program is on the fast decline, while Alabama’s is quickly moving up. Auburn - get used to it. You have a snake-in-the-grass coach who has no ethics or morals. Tubs would sell his soul to the devil for the right price. You are getting exactly what you deserve. All I can do is sit back and laugh. Sweet justice!
By Missman
October 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
I think Tuberville and Auburn have had what basically amounts to a meltdown. They will be lucky to go 7-5. Couldn’t happen to finer people.
By BLAZER
October 9, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
PETRINO CAN GO BACK TO AUBURN IF ARKANSAS DEEPS LOSING!!!
By SEC fan
October 9, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
This has Bobby Lowder all over it.
By ken
October 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
What’s the constant among all of the variables? Probably an alumni with deep pockets that’s causing the OC revolving door. Tuberville can coach, he’s just not in charge of Auburn football.
By SecIsFootball
October 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Tommy…your comment “as long as we keep kicking bama butt the program will be right where it needs to be” explains what we have been saying at UA all along. BAMA fans want to see their team win championships and even a blind man can see that is the direction we are going. AU fans want to beat Alabama!!! As for #7, wish in one hand, crap in the other and see which one fills up first. Your program is the laughing stock of college football right now and will be lucky to finish 7-5. As for the Iron Bowl, well, watch the UGA game and that will give you an idea of what BAMA will do this year in BDS!! After that, Lowder will have Tubs out on the street. ROLL TIDE!!!
By Eagle Tim
October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Here is the real joke 1.Fire your O.C.with a 4and 2 record and in the top 25 in mid season(Boy that will really make great O.C.’s bang down your door for a job ha ha ha) 2.How can a O.C.do his job when the loyal coaches that has been with Tubb’s the longest dont buy into it 3.Didnt Al Borges have a hand in the 50 wins in five years at Auburn and where is he at now? 4.If there was no confict between coaches when Franklin was fired then Tubbs really knows how to speak out of both air holes that he has(quote “I support the spread and Tony Franklin”from sunday to being fired on wed ha ha ha) 5.Way to take a man that got back into coaching making a living at a Troy,bring him to Auburn and fire him because Tubbs great coaches didnt like him 6.The best for last,We are bringing back the 2003 offense,didnt work then and will not work now(that part doesnt make me laugh but makes me cry.Thanks Tubbs another great year not living up to expectations)
By baloney
October 9, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Auburn has always cheated. See, Jordan,Barfield,Dye.Bowden,and soon to be Tubberville.Also, the fact is Auburn is merely a regional team. Noone really knows about the program outside the south.
By edge34
October 9, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
A lot of these posts are simply amazing. Auburn is not the laughing stock of college football. I feel some sympathy for Franklin, but lets face it, this business is about production and if Franklin was not able to truly sell his system to his players and the rest of the staff then he simply was not the right fit at Auburn. I would much rather part ways now than to wait until the end of the year. Expectations are everthing anfd Tubs made a bad decision in brining Franklin in to the program. Tuberville has still done a fantastic job and has proven that in 10 years. For those bama fans that feel you are back on top, I congratulate you on a great season so far. Dont let your ego get too far ahead of yourself, you still have many games left on the schedule. These football institutions all have influential alumni that pull strings to their benefit, I just hope that the Auburn fans stay focused and realize that we have on eof the best coaches in college football.
By IM4BAMA
October 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
I want to remind Auburn fans that the success you enjoyed this decade was a result of Alabama’s NCAA sanctions. That’s the only reason you won six in a row and enjoyed the success that you had.
That s**’s over. You were already about to lose big in recruiting in the state and now with Tubbs’ move, you are gonna get killed in recruiting which will translate into many losses over the next few years.
You got to run your mouths about Bama and “six” but that is about to be turned on you and I hope you like how it feels. Get ready for your long losing streak to us now. Payback’s a b***.
By Fight Club
October 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Hmm..wonder if there was really a fight in the Offensive Staff meeting….physical fight…with bleeding heads and ultimatums set?
By Paula
October 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Give me a break Dawg Auburn has a clean program thanks to Tuberville. If you think he got fired b/c of some BS violation you clearly haven’t watched a single down of AU football this year. Todd was Franklins golden boy and as soon as Kodi went down with an injury he stuck a crap QB in and refused to play the guy that he was brought in to start. Tuberville said last week “the reason we brought in the spread was for Kodi”. There were tensions among the coaches and players and I applude CTT for having the balls to stand up and deal with it. Don’t be a bammer hoping for the collapse of AU so UGA can get more Ga players.
By edge34
October 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
For all the BAMA fans on here preaching about dominance and luck and sanctions. It sure seems like you have a lot of anger issues. I am sorry that your program has experienced so much pain and agony especially losing to Auburn 6 years in a row. Lets face it though, college football has a much more even playing field these days, just ask Florida State. To make all these forecasts now that you have Saban and one and half years under your belt is a bit presumptuous. Perhaps you should seek out some anger management and worry about your next game instead of dreaming up victories over Auburn…we ALL know what looking ahead will do for you…..WDE
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Probably already has a replacement in mind that will be hired in a week. For Pete’s sake they only beat Clemson in the Chick Fil A bowl. They didn’t even know what they were doing on offense in that game. If the field had not been artificial they would have been drawing plays up in the dirt with a stick. Get to the SEC defenses and that crap doesn’t work all that well (see Florida w/ 4 losses last year). UT trying the same thing and they are about to have 4 losses ( I hope). TT already has gotten phone calls from OC’s before firing Franklin and you can bet he will have a big name in there soon. Some coach from the past that is lookng to get back into the college game and has been successful at some point at this level or the NFL.
By John Smith
October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Tuberville is a class act.
By TOMMY
October 9, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Hey seclsFootball WHATEVER! my whole family is full of bama fans and all they talk about is beating auburn so dont even talk about that not being a priority! furthermore AUBURN has beaten alabama SIX straight times cause of talent NOT probation but whatever helps yall sleep at night all i can say about the iron bowl is BRING IT ON! we all know bama fans live in there own little narrow minded world anyway WAR DAMN EAGLE FOREVER!
By yeah right
October 9, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
True Crimson- Please get a life. You have no idea what you are talking about and EVERYBODY really believes that you have inside information to the Auburn program. uh huh… Anyone who is a real Auburn fan or follows Auburn football knows that Tuberville doesn’t give in to pressure or the stupidity of fans so therefore we can all ASSUME that something happened between he and Franklin. ASSUME all you want and we all know what happens then. Unless you were there when the firing took place and heard the conversation, NO ONE outside of the program has any idea. Not the press,radio media or anyone else. Tuberville did what he thought was the best for his team period.
By Tracet
October 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Communist AJC!
Every heard of a typo moron?
By ckj
October 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Let’s ask Roswell Ed. I am sure he knows the answers to these questions.
By Tjrue Blue Auburn
October 9, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
It is, indeed, amazing to those of us who live in Auburn to see how things have developed this week. It makes no sense to me to fire a coach who has a contract for over half a million dollars (while still paying the past offensive coordinator) halfway through the season and claim that there will be no change in the offensive scheme of things—that AU will continue to run the spread. (I, like many others, have thought that the “spread eagle” was the “dead eagle” since the second ballgame!) I think the financial flippancy alone is deplorable when there are hard-working professors making just a fraction of that cost. When a non-atheletic employee doesn’t perform to standards, they are summarily fired with no hefty financial parachute. All of them need to be on a one-year contract and should be allowed to work for that year to earn the money. If the head coach wants to get rid of someone that he has hired before the contract ends, then he should have to make the financial compensation. I hope the Auburn players will be able to recover from the apparent disarray among their coaches and I implore all Auburn supporters who have tickets to Saturday’s game to show up in support of them. War Eagle!
By BR
October 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
M—There is a reason that so many teams in the SEC are ranked and so many in the ACC aren’t. When your nerds play a ranked team, much less beat one, then run your mouth. By the way, good luck this weekend against another powerhouse—Gardner Webb!
By B
October 9, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Tuberville is a class act?? All he does is stand on the sidelines and whine and complain. If that’s the definition of class then yes, I guess he is!
By Tracey
October 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Communist AJC:
I confess, yes I have a problem. I make typos. It’s a curse really.
Notra instead of Notre. “sigh” What would I do without you to point out to me how dumb all southerners are? We just live and wait for all the residents of other parts of the country to tell us how ignorant we are.
Please feel free to go back to reading the Communist Manifesto and being perfect.
sarcasm = like I need your approval
By crs
October 9, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Much like the stock market falling far more on panic than fundamentals so too are the Auburn boosters and faithful panicking. Bama is back and has quickly reclaimed the state after years of probation and poor coaching. Anyone who thought Franklin could come in and with a still young o-line and young skill players dominate the SEC was insane. I talked to many Auburn fans before the season and said you have an 8-4 team but you’ll lose one more because you have a whole new offensive system. They all laughed and most said, see you in Atlanta for the SEC championship. Meanwhile I lauded Alabama with two solid lines and a senior quarterback would win the west. Anyhow, back to Auburn, the boosters are nervous that Auburn is falling behind the leaders in the SEC. They are. That’s a fact. Listen, I like Auburn. But the reality is the state is Alabama’s again. You have always recruited 3 star players with a couple 4’s and the occasional 5. Nothing wrong with that. What it means though is when you have younger teams like you do now, you will field a 7-9 win teams including the bowl. Most of these teams will not win the West. However, you will have windows where you have junior and senior laden teams with redshirt expierence who can win and even dominate the league. You just won’t be there every year with the FL’s, GA’s, ALA’s and LSU’s. Your still in the top half of the league. Thats REAL.
By Got 12?
October 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
TOMMY,
A statement like
“AUBURN has beaten alabama SIX straight times cause of talent NOT probation”
shows that you don’t understand college sports. What do you think probation (e.g. scholarship reductions) affects? It affects a team’s talent and depth.
This year, Bama has only nine scholarship seniors and plays 15 freshman (second only to Florida State). That lack of depth is due to probation and sanctions.
How about this one: DWE!
RTR!
By DawgDawg
October 9, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Yep, it’s Lowder….Terry Bowden, where are you? Oh yeah, never mind, Bobby wouldn’t go for that…..again…
By Rik
October 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Why can’t Auburn fans accept that they just do not have a good team this year? I am loving this year!
By Deber
October 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Good thing for Tommy that snake Bobby P has his job @ Arkansas otherwise he could be interviewing for the AU job NOT in the dead of night on a secret flight…
By azcat225
October 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
This has Lowder’s fingerprints all over it.
As to Roswell Ed, some of you sound a bit…disturbed. By my last count, at least three other posers were using his nickname. The genuine Roswell Ed, if he even bothers reading this blog any more, is probably laughing his a$$ right now.
Lowder is probably interviewing OC’s as we speak…errr, blog. He’ll let Tuberville know who to hire in a week or two.
By SecIsFootball
October 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
TOMMY….never said it wasnt a priority or important. It just is not the standard by which we measure our program like it is at AU. Since it has been 51 years since you have won a NC, I can see why. Your program now is a complete disaster and it will only get worse this season. Your spineless coach fired TF 7 games into his career at AU because he know that with as bad as things were, he would rather throw someone else under the bus rather get tossed on his a$$ at the end of the year. That wont matter because if he loses to BAMA, then your AD (Bobby Lowder) will remove him personally and this time the idiot wont mess it up!
By tommy
October 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
hey got12 as i can tell by your screen name u are one of those narrow minded bama fans im soooo glad things are rosy in your world for now so again i say BRING IT ON NOV 29. and have a little class i may not like bama but NEVER NEVER wish death on ANYONE wait what am i saying bama fans and class dont go together
By Not a tuby fan
October 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Tuby did the same thing to his assistant coach that he did to his Ole Miss players several years ago.
By tommy
October 9, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
OMG lets rewind to the past summer how many bama players were aressted? thats why they got the nickname CRIMINAL TIDE trash talk tubberville all u want but look at the team before u judge and there s a team with talent and heart. furhtermore i have been around college soprts long enough to know a coach can only carry u so far and then u have to go on heart!
By Eagle Tim
October 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Alabama’s back?The only reason Auburn has won 6 straight is because of NCAA sanctions?Wow funny stuff,Bama gets 3 blue chippers Jones Ingram and Cody with the remaining members the same from last year team(The same team that we beat because of NCAA sanctions).Ha HA HA.Man how Bama fans change there tune.Wonder what there excuse will be this year,cant wait.Now since they are 6 and 0 they are more talented then Auburn.It is long haul to the top but a quick way back to the bottom where Bama has a PO box and a place they know really well.Relly dont remember the last time we lost to the 4 million dollar man but i know when the last time we beat him HA HA HA HA HA HA
By BamaStyle
October 9, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Somehow, I know the crook bobby lowder is behind all this stuff at auburn. He makes all the big decisions down there about money, coaches, presidents, etc. He probably told tuberville to get rid of Franklin ASAP, and TT knows who he reports to. Lowder may can tuberville this year if Auburn doesn’t get to a good bowl game. Lowder may go after Spurrier or Bill Cowher, if he can come up with $5 million per year.
By grammer police
October 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Good to see that Saint Nick is back with his over punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!????????? One will do it, you dumb redneck, one will do it.
By AltamahaDawg
October 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Makes me wonder if Muschamp making a lateral move for the same money last year was because he saw some writing on the wall. Did he not particularly feel comfortable with Tubberville? Did he worry the new offense was going to be a bust, and just didn’t want any part of having to compensate for that on the other side of the ball?
By shruggy
October 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Dear Aub0s,
Keep running you mouths. That’s all you can do at this point. You have had a good run. Let me remind you though, that Alabama has the same number of SEC championships as you do in the last decade. “6-in-a-row” is all you have. On November 30, 2008, you won’t have that any more. Hope you enjoyed it, took some pictures, bought a t-shirt, because it’s over.
By GT
October 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
God the dramatics. We throw out the window all the fears of TT taking the Arkansas job last year, or the joy of him beating Alabama all those times and the picture of him in Iraq. I tell you what you need to worry about; Auburn now plays Georgia and Alabama without the dress on. Auburn was born to knock heads not play some tricky football. Tuberville is best when his back is against the wall, this spread takes a lot of intensity out of his game, and they play Georgia down there in Auburn where they can only win if they are out of their minds intense. A lot of academic offensive coaches don’t get college football or SEC football. This ain’t skipping third period and goofing off, this is a business, hard work and expected results. Chan Gailey another Troy ex employee had the same problem understanding why he was getting paid, but apparently Turberville doesn’t and Auburn is damn lucky to have him.
By coach
October 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
As someone who has been a college coach for 27 years I find it completely appalling that Tuberville would fire Franklin after only 6 games. This is not only bad news for the rest of the staff but also completely degrades the game of college football. What happen to the word loyalty and committment. The last I heard it does work both ways. Tuberville is in panick mode which shows poor leadership.
By Just Wondering
October 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Who put the gash on Franklin’s head? Seriously.
By athensdawg
October 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
i could hear the soap opera music playing as i read tony’s column. i was wating for him to tie it in to global warming, the housing crisis, the presidential election and god knows what else. lordy tony….you can come up with some stuff….
look, auburn’s offense has sucked this year. it has been so bad that i have seen a mild mannered 70 year old auburn fan start screaming and cussing at the tv.
tuberville made the right call. i am actually worried now that auburn will be back to smash mouth football….
and as for whomever mentioned kevin ramsey…you are right… people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks
…if i remember…he was hired by Jim Donnan to try to steal some recruits away from tennessee. Donnan decided that Joe Kines’ defense shutting down Spurrier and the Gators wasn’t getting the job done, so he hired Ramsey…who forced us to play the press…something we had no business doing….just like auburn has no business playing the spread. Coach makes a bad decision….coordinator takes the blame…that’s the way it goes.
But, then again, Jim’s wisdom was questionable. After all, he staked his college coaching carrer on the arm (and mysterious broken finger) of Quincy Carter…..
tuberville will turn auburn around before the season is over. this is not a good thing for people who have to play them in the future.
By CJ
October 9, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
The fact is that Tommy Tuberville is only looking out for himself. He was like that at Ole Miss, and the fact that he lied and said he had no plans to make any radical changes isn’t surprising. I feel for Coach Franklin and his family, but congratulate him on being free from working for a guy like Tuberville. Tuberville doesn’t even know the names of all his players…..ask him. He’ll probably lie about it, but the guy is a scumbag.
By CJ
October 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
The fact is that Tommy Tuberville is only looking out for himself. He was like that at Ole Miss, and the fact that he lied and said he had no plans to make any radical changes isn’t surprising. I feel for Coach Franklin and his family, but congratulate him on being free from working for a guy like Tuberville. Tuberville doesn’t even know the names of all his players…..ask him. He’ll probably lie about it, but the guy is a scumbag.
By UAFAN
October 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Looks like Sugar Hill Dawg is a little bitter! I thought this story was about Auburn firing Franklin! I hope he keeps that black shirt clean for Dec. in the Outback Bowl. 41-30!
By Scott D.
October 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
The Rumor in Auburn The rumor is.. Apparently our offensive line has been against the implementaion of the Spread Offense due to it just being to much work. Like everyone says, Tubby has had these asst coaches for a while. If there were to be a dispute he would more than likely have their side on it. I am like most of us AU fans in that i have frequently cursed Franklin and his lack of offensive production, but thinking back, this may not really be his fault. I’ve been a true Tubby fan for a while, even cooked his food when i worked at Niffer’s, but maybe.. maybe he made a pretty big mistake in firing Franklin. I hope he didn’t, I hope the rumors of our offensive line being to lazy is untrue, but it does make sense.. Let’s see how Saturday goes, War Eagle!
By bigave
October 9, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
From an old Auburn Grad ‘60. Things used to be pretty stable and college football was the thing going. Coaches did not make MILLIONS, and they got more support than these “prima-donna’s.” College football has become a BIG BUSINESS, and the true fan has very little to say about what goes on in the program. You can ridicule the programs from Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennesse, and the others, but what good do you get out of it? These are young men, who will be doing something else in four or five years. Football will be a thing of the past for them. Most of you have never played a down or coached a second. I have done both, and know that this should be all about the players, not the foul-mouthed fans. Alabama was not on probation six years, so give Auburn a little credit. We are all SEC, the best in the nation, and this is what the nation enjoys, divisivness. Pull for your team, not against the others, particularly when they play one of the other conferences. GO SEC, and WAR EAGLE!
By Yankee
October 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
I just love hearing one ridge runner telling another how stupid they are; all because they run a different ridge. Or better yet someone from jawga talking down to a bammer, LMFAO.
POT-KETTLE.
So cornpone, only in Dixie.
Isn’t it about time for John from UGA to go on a tirade about butchering the language? LOL
By AUFanz4
October 9, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
Something had to give and if what had to give was Tony Franklin well then so be it. I think we can all agree that he has done poorly at Auburn. I watched that team play Vandy the other night (and my hats off to Vandy - I hope you go undefeated) but I have never seen a team play that was so out of sync and look so heartless. It is one thing to lose a game when you felt like you gave it 100% but they lost that game and it looked like they just gave up. Even our defense - who is the most impressive defense that I have ever watched play looked like they were giving up. Understandibly so after the last few weeks, our defense is all we have had offensively too. So like I said earlier, something had to give - we still have half a season left to salvage and we need to start playing like a team - like the Auburn team we know and love. If we win the rest of our games that would be great. If we just win some of the rest of our games, but through this we learn to play as a team again and love the game again - that is great too!! As for Tommy Tuberville, I think he has proved himself to Auburn - I don’t think he threw Tony Franklin under the bus to save himself, I think this move was to save a season for all those boys who have sacrificed so much to have the chance to play and deserve to win. You all can get mad and hate Tommy if you want to, but as an Auburn fan I intend on standing behind him and that team 100% and as it was before I was just tired of watching it - it was just too painful. As for you fans of other teams, really it is nothing to you what we do with our program when the truth be told that the reason you don’t like him is because he has beaten most of you quite a few times. Anyway - WAR EAGLE!!!!
By Beverly
October 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe that Bama fans are saying Tuberville is a bad coach. Auburn has been the superior team in the state for the last 10 years. Have you forgotten also that no matter what happens on Nov. 29, it doesn’t erase the 6 in a row that Tuberville has beat Bama. The only reason y’all have so much to say is because you have a good HALF of a season and I emphasize half!
By M is for Nerd
October 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Overrated? We’re gonna see who’s overrated when GT chokes on all the hype when they play Clemson, let alone you know who. I know one SEC team that hasn’t pulled out of their 6 year commitment to whooping your bug a*******es: GEORGIA! Oops, I meant SEVEN YEAR commitment!
By jonjon
October 9, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
WTFC!!!
By HAHA!
October 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Just wondering, did Auburn beat us last year with their old offense they are about to go back to? They didn’t? Oh, ok, I see why we need to be shaking in our boots now. YOU CAN’T HANG WITH US, WAR FEEBLE!
By George Wendell
October 9, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Tommy has never recruited in the southwest especially Arizona. He should have looked at Tim Ruben, Saguaro HS, Scottsdale AZ, who was the spread offense QB and lead Saguaro to two straight State Chamionships. Tim was the only person in the history of Arizona football to run for 2000 yards and pass for 2000 yards. He won every award the state gives including Player of the Year and Gatorade Player of the Year. He is now a redshirt freshman at Boise State. I know he could have run Auburn’s offense better that the QB’s they recruited.
By InterestedObserver
October 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
There is a difference between the “spread” offense and the Tony Franklin spread offense. One works in high school and the other one MAY work in college. The version Auburn was running works only in high school, not the SEC. Tuberville biggest mistake was hiring Franklin in the first place. Franklin’s “spread” worked at Troy University of the Sun Belt conference. Again, I know a couple of high schools that can compete in the Sun Belt Conference.
By Lucky#62
October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this
Yes…Bama definitely sucks, which is why they’re 6-0, and AU’s Tigers* has lost to the second biggest joke in the SEC (Vanderbilt). That’s why the Tide has ROLLED over two top-10 teams, while AU got slugged by LSU. Hate to tell you this Tiger’s S*, but Bama is about to go on for AT LEAST another decade of total domination in the SEC. Saban’s no Bear Bryant, but he sure beats Tubby!
By Rufus
October 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this
Pre-emptive strike!
By War Eagle
October 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this
Columbus Dawg, you are a piece s*.
In the first quarter of Vandy game, CTT called FG on 4th and one, CTF subordinated and choose a run which failed and possible cause the loss to Vandy.
This was the start of confusion from the players coaching staff and news media. It follow with several incidents including CTF and coaching staff. CTT had no choice, but make a change.
I support CTT and his decision although it will set Auburn back with recruits, but we have been their before.
By An Au Barn Fan
October 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
Tuberville has always been a liar. He told his Mississippi players he was not going anywhere and the next day he was at Auburn being introduced as the new head football coach.
How could any coach or player for that matter ever go to Auburn knowing that their head coach cannot be trusted to tell them the truth?
By HH
October 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this
If you ask me, Richt ought to take a page out of Tubberville’s book and fire Martinez now. Its got to be done sometime, might as well get it overwith now. At least one has to give Tubberville credit for having “guts”.
By steve
October 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
Hey baloney. You’re full of crap. USC and Oklahoma started the year at 1 and 2 and never lost. Auburn came from way back and never had a chance to play for the NC. Not because of a “cupcake” schedule. Learn you facts or shut up.
By prattvillenolzfan
October 9, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this
Being in the heart of Bama country, it’s difficult being a Noles fan….
Rumor from one of my Tiger boosters friends Dye (who still has influence on the program) and Lowder both gave Tuberville an ultimum….Do it & do it now……
Earlier posts were right, Franklin was brought in but not allowed to tweak his coaching staff Ensminger & Nall both underminded this program…
Things are only going to get worse before they get better……
Wouldn’ be surprised if Tuberville doesn’t survive it either…..
Not that this means anything, but I find it very ironic that Auburn plays Arkansas (Petrino) this week-end……
It’s great to be a Tiger fan right now…
By tigernole
October 9, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
If you want to call Va Tech, Alabama, LSU and UGA an easy schedule from 2004 when they went undefeated a cupcake schedule, I would hate to see a hard one by your definition. Although I am not much of a Coach TT fan, I am a die hard Auburn Tigers fan and would support any decision made to better serve the team. If that means firing Franklin so be it but I would look hard at making some other changes to the staff. It is kind of hard busting Turbevilles balls for bailing on Mississippi when Nick Saban did the same thing to LSU and then to the Dolphins. I don’t see anyone busting his balls. Life goes on people and it will continue at AU. They are a great ball club and Auburn is a great University. Greatness will prevail. It always does!!
By KR
October 9, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
I love how the fans of other schools have suddenly become experts about what is going on at Auburn…
I don’t know about you guys, but where I work, if I don’t deliver results I get fired.
Tony Franklin didn’t deliver results.
By tigernole
October 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
And He Got Fired!! WAR EAGLE BABY!!
Where ya at Brandon?? Coach TT and Chris Todd need ya man LOL
By Beverly
October 9, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
One person said that Auburn fans are so worried about what is going at Alabama, but it appears they are way too concerned about what is going on at Auburn. Maybe a little worried now! Bama knew we didn’t have a chance with Franklin, but maybe we do now. Worried??????
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
By yeah right
October 9, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
True Crimson- Please get a life. You have no idea what you are talking about and EVERYBODY really believes that you have inside information to the Auburn program. uh huh… Anyone who is a real Auburn fan or follows Auburn football knows that Tuberville doesn’t give in to pressure or the stupidity of fans so therefore we can all ASSUME that something happened between he and Franklin. ASSUME all you want and we all know what happens then. Unless you were there when the firing took place and heard the conversation, NO ONE outside of the program has any idea. Not the press,radio media or anyone else. Tuberville did what he thought was the best for his team period.
yeah right,
I have a life. That is why I wasn’t around today. Listen up, because…
I’m gonna tell you the Rest of the Story
It begins with the BBQ Mafia. These are the coaches who climbed into the pine box with Tommy and followed him from Ole Miss to Auburn in 1998. These are the coaches who cannot be fired. These are their names:
Don Dunn
Eddie Gran
Greg Knox
Hugh Nall
Terry Price
These coaches will receive tenure when they complete ten years of service. They will then qualify for State Retirement Benefits. High profile Coordinators come and go at Auburn University — but these men stay.
The day before Tony Franklin was fired, he admitted (off the record) that he had made a mistake in taking the Auburn job without the option to bring his own assistant coaches to teach the Auburn players how to run the spread offense.
After the Vandy game, Franklin told Tommy Tuberville that he must either agree to give him the authority to coach the entire offense or fire him. Tommy agreed.
Franklin proceeded to take a hands on approach in this week’s practice. This led to a mutiny among the BBQ mafia. While Coach Steve Ensminger is not a part of the original Ole Miss crew, he also joined in the mutiny. He is now the interim OC. When the fecal material hit the fan — Tommy did what he always does. And so… Another one bites the dust!
This is a short and sweet version of the story. You don’t have to believe that I know what I am talking about, but you will learn the truth from other sources eventually.
Good luck getting a real Offensive Coordinator to step into this maelstrom. If Jimmy Sexton does his job, then this will probably not be an issue after this season ends. Tommy Tuberville will get the negotiation that he wants on his buy-out clause and the BBQ mafia will have their tenure from the State of Alabama.
And Auburn University will be a receding image in Tommy Tuberville’s rear-view mirror.
By El Gato
October 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
Attention:Attention,
The bovines are running wild on our campus!! Please cease and desist on the blog and get out there and capture your girlfrieds runnning wild.
Awburn Cow College Faculty
By Beverly
October 9, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
If you’re scared, just say you’re scared! War Eagle!!!! Bama may win on the 29th, but that won’t erase the great job Coach Tuberville has done at Auburn. My bet is that Bama will be back on probation before long. I would choose Tuberville over Nick Satan anytime! If I remember correctly, Tuberville and Auburn has won 8 out of 10 tries over Bama since he has been at Auburn. You don’t know if there are any Alabama fans unless they’re doing well. Maybe I just don’t remember seeing so many Bama fans, because it has been a very long time since they have done well. Do I need to remind the ignorant Bama fans that we are only halfway through the season?
By Beverly
October 9, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this
Why are Bama fans so bitter?
By Tech Fan in UGA Country
October 9, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
In an interview on 680 the Fan, a reporter from Alabama covering Auburn football said that he believed that Franklin was fired for insubordination, that Franklin was blaming the players and other coaches for the offense’s lack of production. This explanation would seem to make sense given the timing of the firing. As you say, why fire him 6 games into the season with an open date ahead. However, if he were a cancer spreading discontent throughout the team, you would have no choice but to act immediately. Tubberville may just be taking the politically correct and polite path of simply saying it was due to lack of production instead of bad mouthing Franklin in the press. I don’t know what the truth may be, but this explanation does make more sense.
You haven’t heard any such rumors coming out of Auburn?
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
Beverly,
That’s a sweet name to be wasted on such an ignorant wench. I have a niece named Beverly who graduated from Auburn University. But, of course, she’s a Bama fan. She’s a smart kid.
I only wish that I was wrong. I would like nothing better than to see Tommy Tuberville have to compete with an Alabama program at full strength. It would be like the old days when Shug and Bear faced off against one another.
Crimson Tide fans outnumber War Eagle fans by about 70% to 30% in the State of Alabama. That doesn’t count the Bama fans in the rest of the nation. I’ve been following Alabama football long enough to not be bothered by a few rough years. It was inevitable that we would return to national prominence. I’m looking forward to the next half of the season.
You guys in the Auburn Nation better just worry about dealing with the Razorbacks right now. Your Bryant Denny nightmare will arrive soon enough!
RTR!!!
By shack
October 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
everyone just hold your horses…..
3 things going on here:
1…..everyone is firing shots at auburn b/c in the last 10 years, we have won more sec games than anyone else….look at the recordeveryone else loves to throw mud at a “winner”….just ask alabama…and i’m an auburn alum…just the truth
2…..our fans are spoiled….just a fact…winning all those games makes our fans a little on edge when you struggle…if you don’t believe me….ask a alabama fan….just a fact 3…..nick saben did the exact same thing at the end of last year by firing major applewhite/offensive coordinator….only difference is tuberville didn’t wait until we lost 4 of our last 5 regular season games…..tuberville did it right now to stop the bleeding….fact…again just ask an alabama fanin the real world….if you do not produce…you are fired…as hard as that sounds…it is that simple…..
this is not some fantasy…just the real world and even that, the SEC is more demanding and accountable than corporate america….
I applaud Tuberville for making the decision now…put an end to the civil in-house fighting and teach those kids, that when times get tough get going…that is just a lesson in life…
war eagle! shack
By shack
October 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
everyone just hold your horses…..
3 things going on here:
1…..everyone is firing shots at auburn b/c in the last 10 years, we have won more sec games than anyone else….look at the recordeveryone else loves to throw mud at a “winner”….just ask alabama…and i’m an auburn alum…just the truth
2…..our fans are spoiled….just a fact…winning all those games makes our fans a little on edge when you struggle…if you don’t believe me….ask a alabama fan….just a fact 3…..nick saben did the exact same thing at the end of last year by firing major applewhite/offensive coordinator….only difference is tuberville didn’t wait until we lost 4 of our last 5 regular season games…..tuberville did it right now to stop the bleeding….fact…again just ask an alabama fanin the real world….if you do not produce…you are fired…as hard as that sounds…it is that simple…..
this is not some fantasy…just the real world and even that, the SEC is more demanding and accountable than corporate america….
I applaud Tuberville for making the decision now…put an end to the civil in-house fighting and teach those kids, that when times get tough the tough get going…that is just a lesson in life…
war eagle! shack
By shack
October 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
everyone just hold your horses…..
3 things going on here:
1…..everyone is firing shots at auburn b/c in the last 10 years, we have won more sec games than anyone else….look at the recordeveryone else loves to throw mud at a “winner”….just ask alabama…and i’m an auburn alum…just the truth
2…..our fans are spoiled….just a fact…winning all those games makes our fans a little on edge when you struggle…if you don’t believe me….ask a alabama fan….just a fact 3…..nick saben did the exact same thing at the end of last year by firing major applewhite/offensive coordinator….only difference is tuberville didn’t wait until we lost 4 of our last 5 regular season games…..tuberville did it right now to stop the bleeding….fact…again just ask an alabama fanin the real world….if you do not produce…you are fired…as hard as that sounds…it is that simple…..
this is not some fantasy…just the real world and even that, the SEC is more demanding and accountable than corporate america….
I applaud Tuberville for making the decision now…put an end to the civil in-house fighting and teach those kids, that when times get tough the tough get going…that is just a lesson in life…
war eagle! shack
By TrueCrimson
October 9, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this
The firing of Major Applewhite is slightly different. He is not on the University of Alabama payroll any longer. Al Borges and Tony Franklin are.
The other difference is that Alabama hired a very good coach to replace Major Applewhite and he is a better fit at Alabama. Major is successfully employed at Texas and has no hard feelings that require a “non-disclosure agreement” to protect the University from being attacked by Coach Applewhite.
Similar circumstance… but not the same.
RTR!!!
By bigave1938
October 10, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this
TrueCrimson,
You are one of those sexual intellectuals. Why don’t you just keep your nose in your Toilet Bowl and let the Tide Roll down the hole. It is none of your business what goes on in the AUBURN FAMILY, not nation. We stick together, where were you the last 10 years? People like you always get their due, and the fall is a long way. Watch out for the “Tigers.”
By Spike
October 10, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this
Or maybe he just lied to you Tony.
By fact checker
October 10, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
“Saban’s no Bear Bryant, but he sure beats Tubby” Hey Lucky #62, check your facts. Tubby has a winning record against your beloved Nick at AU and LSU…4-2. Let’s reconvene at the end of the season to discuss. Auburn may have gone through a lot of coordinators in the past few years, but how many Head Coaches have been churned out at AU?
By Sautee Dawg
October 10, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Tony
You ever think Alumni had a say so in this matter, that’s about the only reasoning you left out. SEC has 2 much speed on defence for the spread to be that effective. works for a quater or half sometimes but seems to be more suited to the weaker conferences because of lack of defence.
M
as far as your assumption that that Wake Forrest and the ACC will put up a struggle against Vandy. Are you joking? Did you see Klempsen and Wake Forrest on ESPN on thursday night. Couldn’t tell whether either one had a good defence because neither one had a offence. As Jerry Clower once said ” Like watching 2 mules fight over a turnip”.
By TrueCrimson
October 10, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
By bigave1938
October 10, 2008 12:05 AM
TrueCrimson,
You are one of those sexual intellectuals.
Thanks for the compliment!
I haven’t had my head in the “Toilet Bowl” since I gave up the Cheap Tequila back in the 1970’s.
If you know how to view the archives of this blog, then you’ll see that I’ve been here all along. You’ll also find that I have been a True Crimson Tide Fan through thick and thin — hence my nickname.
I admire your family loyalty, even in the midst of a nasty divorce. You’re right. The fall is long. But you guys will bottom out eventually. You survived the Barfield era, you will survive this as well. Meanwhile, watch out for November!
RTR!!!
By ILUVAU
October 10, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Tommy did’nt do anything but read my mind. Franklin needed to be fired.Alabama fans have no room to talk.How many head coaches have they gone through in the last nine years? I like TT. I think he is a class act. I think he did the best thing for his team.Oh yeah and I agree with Beverly….you never know there is a Alabama fan until they are having a good season.
p.s. Truecrimson, I went to Alabama and am a HUGE Auburn fan. So do us all a favor and quit being such a redneck!
By ILUVAU
October 10, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Tommy did’nt do anything but read my mind. Franklin needed to be fired.Alabama fans have no room to talk.How many head coaches have they gone through in the last nine years? I like TT. I think he is a class act. I think he did the best thing for his team.Oh yeah and I agree with Beverly….you never know there is a Alabama fan until they are having a good season.
p.s. Truecrimson, I went to Alabama and am a HUGE Auburn fan. So do us all a favor and quit being such a redneck!
By The Mighty Trojan Death MAchine
October 10, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
This just in: Troy has more talent on offense than Allbarn.
TMTDM now #2 team in state.
By TNTiger
October 10, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Here is the latest rumor mill story about Franklin being fired. This was forwarded to me. Take it for what it is worth – just a version that one guy was told. If it is even partially true, Tuberville did not have much of a choice:
Alright here is as much as I know from my sources…these aren’t the fake sources you hear people refer to on the radio. Tuesday morning at practice Franklin went nuts, beyond what you read in the paper, not only was he running around like a nut on the practice field but he would not allow any of the assistants to coach their positions, he was trying to do everything. In the offensive meeting that same day he really goes crazy a$$ nuts (a good friend of Franklin’s said he thinks Tony just lost it, like needs to go talk to somebody lost it),he starts cussing out the players…in particular he calls Kodi Burns out in front of everyone and says “Burns if you were worth a sh*t you’d be playing, but your not!” He apparently became so hostile to a particular lineman that he and the lineman were restrained. When this occurs one of the assistant coaches tells him to calm down and Franklin says “Fk you! Go tell Tubs, I don’t give a fk what he says, this is my offense!” All of this is occurring while Tubs is in his CEO bubble…doing his press conference other duties. When the assistants make Tub aware of what took place at practice Tubs calls Franklin and tells him to meet him first thing Wednesday morning in his office. Wednesday morning Tubs tells Franklin he understands the stress, but he will not tolerate talking to the players on a personal level like that. Franklin raises his voice to Tubs questioning how he runs the program…Tubs then tells him to go to his office, get his stuff and get lost. You might interpret this as a save face for Tubs version of the story but most of this came from a player’s Dad (the lineman that almost came to blows with Franklin) and a coach who is a good, good friend of Franklin’s. His last statement to me was…”This is all on Tubs, I told him last year that while Franklin is a good friend he should not hire him…there was no way he was going to be able to work with that staff.”
By TrueCrimson
October 10, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
A Hint
This particular Offensive Lineman (pun intended!) would be at the end of any player list in descending alphabetical order.
By Beverly
October 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Do most of you even remember when Alabama was good? By the way, I am not a wench, but you are an idiot! If you weren’t worried about Auburn, then why all the concern? Maybe just trying to convince yourselves.
By TrueCrimson
October 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Alabama was good last weekend.
Come to think of it… I do know a guy named Beverly.
Auburn is a public University in Alabama. Any Alabamian has standing to be concerned about what happens there.
Both Auburn University and The University of Alabama are honorable institutions of higher education. They both have my respect in that aspect. I have friends and family associated with both schools.
If you don’t like to hear people talk about Auburn’s football program, then hire a coach who doesn’t run the program like a soap opera.
RTR!!!
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Dixie Redcoat
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I’D LIKE TO KNOW, WHO OR WHAT PUT THAT 3” CUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TONY’S HEAD? YOU CAN SEE IT CLEARLY IN THE COMPLEAT VIDIO OF HIM CLEANING OUT HIS OFFICE! TOMMY TUBERVILLE IS A LIAR…HE’S COVERING SOMBODYS A*
By Auburn Rules
October 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
In reading this long chat page, one thing is obvious! Other SEC school fans truely fear and hate Auburn. Same for non SEC fans vs. SEC (as true toughest overall conference). WHY? Because Auburn day in and day out is a team to take seriously. Even you BAMA fans, while you are FINALLY playing some real football (except vs. Kentucky!), are still scared to death Auburn, with all our issues, will come into your house this year and play our best game and take the streak to 7! War Damn Eagle! We will get through this. And by the way, it was Franklin’s on the practice field Tuesday mental breakdown and near physical fight with a player that got him canned! Go Tubby! He is not worried about his job. Just taking Auburn further down the path to overall greatness. Its GREAT to be and AUBURN TIGER!!!
By Auburn Rules
October 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Admit it BAMA folks, even with all that is going on this year (positive at BAMA and less positive at AUBURN), you still have that deep worry in the back of your mind that we will come to your house and have a solid game with no turnovers and your players will choke as the heavy favorites and let another “Honk if you sacked Brody Ray” game happen. While it might not happen, I will be there watching just in hopes of adding one more archive to my already crowded memory. War Damn Eagle! The GREATEST college football program ever! Life is always full of both the good (our defense), the bad (Franklin’s character), and the ugly (our receivers inability to get open)! I say scrap the spread and let our line get down in a real stance and take care of business.
By TrueCrimson
October 11, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Auburn Rules,
Maybe Tubs will put Lee Ziemba in charge of the Offense and you guys can chop block your way out of this disaster.
Good luck with that.
;-)
By AuburnTiger09
October 11, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
I think Tommy Tuberville made an excellent decision in firing Tony Franklin. Our offense has never been the best in the nation, but it’s gotten worse since Franklin has been at Auburn. The only people who are bashing Tuberville about this decision, are either rivals of Auburn, or people who dislike Tuberville anyway. Look at Tuberville’s record. It’s consistent, and it shows that he’s a good coach. People have to make important decisions, and take the heat, to make their team a better one. that’s one of the sacrifices, obviously. Auburn will return to the team we used to be pretty soon, so watch out SEC :)
By TrueCrimson
October 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Firing Franklin mid-season may be a better decision than hiring him to begin with. The assistant coaches never supported him and they conspired to turn the players against him.
The last time Auburn had a good Offense was under Coach Borges. The difference then was that they had decent Wide Receivers and a good Quarterback.
As Pat Dye said when asked about rumors of Tuberville leaving for Texas A&M at the end of the 2007 season: “I hope Tommy stays at Auburn as long as he can.”
I agree Pat. I agree.
RTR!!!
By TrueCrimson
October 11, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
Well, it looks like Auburn will pull it out against the pathetic Arkansas Hawgs.
Doh!!!
Never mind…
By robert
October 12, 2008 4:27 AM | Link to this
Tommy is 2 faced and underhanded u cant trust him as far as u can throw him. he screwed over ole miss when he left them years ago promising the day before her went to AU that he was staying at miss.
You cant have a liar at the helm of your ball team .. I am a die hard au fan and every year i dread watching games because i know tommy will pull his old crap he will have a stacked team and screw it up by hiring some inept dummy for oc or by playing it safe playing it safe cost us a run at the NC in 03 tommy you are over rated and you need to be fired he cant manage an offense he is a d minded coach its good but he just picks who ever for coordinator on O he makes me so freakn mad every year its the same no matter who the OC is its horrible I am about to jump on the Alabama Crimson tide ban wagon because its too much on my heart to be an auburn fan ps who cared about 6 wins against bama those bama teams were on ncaa suspension WOOO freakn HOOO
By robert
October 12, 2008 4:27 AM | Link to this
Tommy is 2 faced and underhanded u cant trust him as far as u can throw him. he screwed over ole miss when he left them years ago promising the day before her went to AU that he was staying at miss.
You cant have a liar at the helm of your ball team .. I am a die hard au fan and every year i dread watching games because i know tommy will pull his old crap he will have a stacked team and screw it up by hiring some inept dummy for oc or by playing it safe playing it safe cost us a run at the NC in 03 tommy you are over rated and you need to be fired he cant manage an offense he is a d minded coach its good but he just picks who ever for coordinator on O he makes me so freakn mad every year its the same no matter who the OC is its horrible I am about to jump on the Alabama Crimson tide ban wagon because its too much on my heart to be an auburn fan ps who cared about 6 wins against bama those bama teams were on ncaa suspension WOOO freakn HOOO
By TrueCrimson
October 12, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Buy one get one free today on TP at Toomer’s Corner!
By WAR EAGLE
October 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Tommy will get it done when we beat those F*** from Tuscaloosa and Athens. Ive always loved my Tigers and always will. War Eagle
By Jimmy
October 13, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
As a Hog fan we know 1st hand what it is like when you bring in a coach to run the spread but do not allow him to bring in any coaches to help assist him. We brought in Gus Malazan as the OC, basically to get his players from his HS team, but he never had the support of any of the coaches and there was friction from day one. The only reason we made it to the SEC Champiopnship game that year was b/c of DMAC and Felix Jones. Gus was demoted after the season to bring in another OC, basically H.Nutt knew that Gus would leave, which he did and ended up at Tulsa. If you are going to change your philosophy you need to have EVERYBODY on board. Good luck the rest of the season.
By Mark
October 13, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this
*Why is everyone hating on Tommy Tuberville. If you think that Auburn Alumni want coach out then you don’t understand Alabama football. Nobody cares about Vandy, or Arkansas, or even National Championships. Six in a row over Alabama guarantees that there will be buildings named after this man… Why else would they work so hard last year to extend his contract. It’s only been 3 losses, by just a few points, in a year where everyone in the Auburn family knew that a new offensive and defensive coordinator would mean a rebuilding year. How the liberal sports media has gone from saying last year that he was being offered plum coaching positions so he was definitely leaving the Plains to this year where he’s is on the verge of being fired outright, I’m not sure. The sports media is no different than any other media outlet. There job is to create drama where there is none so people will take the time to read their pathetic opinions and not notice that it’s the same old boring, unintelligent BS. Most of the comments made by these sports media guys could be easily reproduced by my 8 year old neice. On a side note, congrats to the folks from Tuscaloosa for bringing in a good coach, and good talent. Two strong SEC schools from Bama make for one heck of an exciting Iron Bowl. War Eagle. *
By Liposuction
January 6, 2009 11:17 PM | Link to this
What is that guy talking about?