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Knowshon needs a big game against Tennessee
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Nobody asked me, but:
1. Knowshon needs a big game against Tennessee: We’re only halfway through the season but already you can see the Heisman Trophy story lines starting to form. The media is starting to fall in love with the Big 12 quarterbacks and that’s understandable because they, especially Chase Daniel of Missouri, are all playing lights out. Georgia’s Knowshon Moreno struggled against Alabama (34 yards on nine carries) but everybody is going to struggle to run against the Alabama defense this year. Georgia was off last week while the other guys were piling up big stats. Despite having a tender elbow, Moreno needs to shine against Tennessee on national television and get back into the minds of the Heisman voters. More importantly, a big day by Moreno gives Georgia the best chance to win.
2. Defenses have adjusted to Tebow: Last year’s 28-24 win by LSU over Florida in Baton Rouge was one of the most hard-hitting, intense football games that I have ever seen. I’m hoping that we’re going to see a similar one Saturday night when the two teams meet again in The Swamp. This is a huge game for Florida’s Tim Tebow, the Heisman Trophy winner, after his two crucial turnovers played such a big part in the 31-30 loss to Ole Miss at home two weeks ago. But I’m hearing from around the league that after watching Tebow dominate last season, defenses have made a couple of subtle adjustments so that the running lanes he used to find inside are no longer there. The good defenses, and LSU is certainly one of those, are going to force Tebow to give up the ball or take a pounding. I will be very interested to see Tebow’s final numbers on Saturday night.
3. Tommy Bowden really needs a win: I’m not prepared to say that Thursday night’s game with Wake Forest is the biggest of the Tommy Bowden era at Clemson, but it’s certainly in the top two. The Tigers (3-2, 1-1 ACC) have had almost two full weeks of soul searching after blowing a 17-9 lead and losing to Maryland at home 20-17 back on Sept. 27. Another loss doesn’t mathematically eliminate Clemson from the ACC championship game, but the Tigers would be 1-2 in the league with Georgia Tech (4-1), Boston College (4-1), and Florida State (4-1) coming up in the next four weeks. This team was the ACC’s best hope of a national championship contender. Guys like RB James Davis of Atlanta came back to school in order to make a run at a championship. What happens to this team if that dream disappears? That is why this is a monster game for Clemson.
4. I don’t understand the love affair with Southern Cal: Some of you brought this up to me more than a week ago. I tend to ignore the weekly inconsistencies of the polls because I believe things shake out about right over the course of a 12 or 13 game schedule. But I can’t understand why the Harris Poll, one of the two used in the BCS formula, has jumped Southern Cal back up to No. 8 ahead of Georgia, whose only loss is to No. 2 Alabama. Southern Cal lost to a team (Oregon State) that was a 25-point underdog. Here’s the problem. Have you looked at the rest of the USC schedule? The best team the Trojans play the rest of the way is probably Notre Dame (4-1) and the Irish have also benefitted by a weak schedule. Given that the SEC and the Big 12 are head and shoulders above the rest of the BCS conferences, I refuse to believe that a one-loss Southern Cal could finish ahead of a one-loss team from those leagues.
5. BYU will bump into a glass ceiling: BYU has a nice team. They are fun to watch and Max Hall is a really good quarterback. But the Cougars, even if they go undefeated, are not going to play in the BCS championship game. Their two wins against BCS competition are Washington (0-5) and UCLA (2-3). Unless TCU (5-1) gets back into the Top 25, BYU will only play one ranked team this entire season, that coming in the final game with No. 13 Utah (6-0). BYU and Utah and No. 15 Boise State (4-0) are all in good position to finish in the Top 12 and earn an at-large spot in a BCS game. All three of those teams are good enough to hold their own should they get chosen for a BCS game. But let’s not get carried away and start putting one of those teams in the national championship game. I heard enough that talk about Hawaii. And you saw how that turned out.




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Comments
By Tiger Bait
October 8, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
Antony,
According to your “wisdom” LSU was suppose to be facing an elimination game against mighty Florida. Well, well quess who is facing the elimination game?
Tiger Bait
By purple and gold
October 8, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
USC and the PAC 10 OVERRATED!!!! and has been for the last 4 years.
Teblow is no longer the force he was last year. Teams have figured out how to stop him and the UF offense. LSU will win this one in another close game and its only close because LSU is playing at UF.
GEAUX TIGERS
By Spanky
October 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
It’s no love affair with USC, it’s common sense. Plain and simple, Georgia got manhandled at home in the first half against Alabama. It was a bad loss. USC may have played lesser competition, but it was close and on the road, which makes it look like a better loss. You could say the same thing about Ohio State - why aren’t they ranked higher when their only loss was to the top ranked team on the road? Simply because they looked awful in the loss, and not so great in a couple of other games - same as Georgia. Take off the black and red colored glasses. Win a few more, and things will sort themselves out. Win a few more convincingly, and maybe you can start talking about the NC again.
By Atlanta Gator
October 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Quick takes on Tony’s comments——
(1) I don’t believe that Moreno is a serious candidate for the 2008 Heisman on a majority of voters’ ballots. Consistency across a Heisman season is one of the hallmarks of a trophy winner.
(2) Probably so, but Meyer better have a game plan that’s a little bit better than Tebow up the middle, Harvin around the ends. Tebow needs to focus on throwing, and the Gators need to let a full-time running back or two take the beating. Urban, are you listening … and I don’t even make $3 million a year.
(3) Bowden is probably the most over-rated coach in the ACC. Can’t win the big ones. Move along——there’s nothing happening here.
(4) Nor does anyone else out the ESPN studio and the PAC-10 understand the consistent over-ranking of Southern Cal. They’re a good team, but most years they play against competition that is far weaker than that of either the Big XII or the SEC. It may be time for some poll voters to begin to vote strategically against USC (i.e. far lower than a plausible 10th to 15th ranking) in order to correct the obvious injustices of this infatuation.
(5) As well they should. I still remember the travesty of BYU “winning” a MNC by beating a mediocre Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl in 1984. If last season’s exposure of Hawaii as a creation of the media’s imagination wasn’t enough … .
By Cremins
October 8, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Why don’t you let the SEC teams actually play their tough schedules before giving credit for them? Given what has happened so far this year, there is a legitimate argument to have USC ranked ahead of UGA. If they both win out, UGA’s SOS will carry them ahead of USC. Fortunately, most voters seem to have gotten over your former voting method of not moving a team down until they lose.
By Brad
October 8, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
You can’t use last year’s Hawaii team as a reason to snub BYU. If BYU is one of only 2 undefeated teams (or the only one) then you have to put them in the title game. They’ve played BCS conference teams for their out of conference games, and even though it’s not a BCS conference the Mountain West has looked pretty damn solid this year. Also, it’s not like BYU is some flash in the pan…they’ve had Heisman winners and a National Championship. If this plays out and they get snubbed it’s pretty good evidence that the BCS is not about finding a true champion but about money and should be scrapped (we all know that’s the case but this would be the nail in the coffin).
By m
October 8, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
O’bama is as overrated as the SEC. Bob Barr is the ACC of the political world and come Nov he will be our next president.
Barr ‘08
By JB
October 8, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
I love # 24, but i’ve seen a lot of backs better than Knowshon this year…..That being said, give him 25 carriers a game behind a line like Bama, he would be leading the country in rushing. Hard to get any carriers against Bama down 31 points and they are stuffing the run. I still cringe looking at the replay. our line moved NO ONE !
By Miles
October 8, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
LSU’s Francois better watch his mouth…in an attempt to create a car wreck like hit on Tebow, he may run into a concrete wall!
By NECKCAR
October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
What is all this talk about Jeff Gordon on a college football page?
The 24 car RULES!
By Sautee Dawg
October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator
Are you saying Tebow was consistent last year with 6 sacks to the dawgs? D-Mac should have got that trophy. All teams have the same thing in common, Stop Tebow and Harvin you shut down the Gators, same with the Dawgs stop Stafford and Moreno you beat the Gawgs. Do you think Mizzou QB could go to LSU or AUB or The Swamp and score 50+ ? I don’t think so.
By SC Rules!!!
October 8, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Tony, normally I don’t take much issue with what you have to say. I don’t always agree whith what you say but I do respect your knowledge of the game and so for the most part haven’t had any gripes. I do remember a few weeks back you were praising mu beloved Trojans as a team SO much better than anyone lese that everyone was playing for #2, including your beloved DAWGS! Now they did stink up the place in Corvallis no doubt, but at least they didn’t get PUNKED in their own crib (31-0) at the half!!! I have no doubts that come January USC and Coach Carroll will be in Miami toying with Big 12/SEC winner in a beatdown that in police circles would be called: ASSUALT in broad daylight!! I respect your right to your opinion on this matter but respectfully sir you are WRONG!!! USC Trojans #1 ‘08 NC’s!!! Fight On!!!
By RAMBLE ON!!!
October 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Please give Knowshow’s Heisman quest a rest Tony.
He’s not even the best running back in the State.
By baloney
October 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
UGA should win the game Sat. Moreno will have a decent day. Barnhart will think 125 yards would be great, but reality he won’t get that unless he has a long run (doubtful) or has 30 or more carries. He nor Stafford have any more of a chance at the heisman this year than I do.
By gtne80
October 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
As badly as I wanted Tech to get rid of Chan, I told my Clempson buddies that I’d rather keep Chan than to take Tommy Bowden. No team underachieves more than Clempson under Bowden.
That said, he always seems to come up with the big “W” when his job is on the line. Look for Clempson to spank the Deacs and roll off a few wins over the next few weeks before he leads them to another inexplicable loss just as it appears that they will make a good year of it.
By Stu
October 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
While it’s true UGA was dominated in the first half, the same is also true of USC’s loss. They were trailing by 21 at the half. So saying USC’s loss was prettier than UGA’s is borderline ludicrous.
By m
October 8, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Some fool has used my handle (above) for some stupid political statement. Use your own damne handle coward. As far as this column, Tony, you should start using the new name for Moreno, Know-show. And it is stupid of you to be worried about USC being overrated when the entire sec is the one that is overrated. And thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever.
By Sautee Dawg
October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
M
The “OVERRATED” SEC has claimed the past 2 National Championships. Comments from you are what sound stupid!!
By Dave-SD
October 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Tony, Georgia was blown out at home (garbage time touchdowns notwithstanding) by an Alabama team they’ve usually handled, and has looked very ordinary in both of its other games against BCS conference schools (neither of which have been in the top 25 at any point this year). USC has 3 blowout wins over BCS conference schools, one that was in the top 5 at the time and is still in the top 15, and one that was in the top 25 at the time and has only lost to ranked teams. They lost a close game on the road to a team that has given them trouble in the recent past. Only a shamelessly partisan SEC homer would rank Georgia higher right now. If your Dawgs win all their remaining games, and so does USC, then they’ll be ranked higher at the end of the year, because the rest of their schedule is tougher. But I think UGA will lose another game or two, and USC won’t, and so does any semi-serious college football fan or analyst.
BTW, Stu, the thing is that USC came back to be in a position where they could possibly win the game. Georgia never did.
By shane#1
October 8, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
1- Knowshon has little chance at a Heisman, and is banged up. Let’s try to keep him healthy for the stretch run. I look for King to get his shot this week. This is a good test to see what king is made of. 2- I agree, Meyer has tried to diversify his O somewhat, but it’s not working too well. UF still boils down to Tebow and Harvin. An injury to either will put a kink in Urban’s run for the SECCG. LSU will get after Tebow, like UGA, Michigan, and Auburn did last year. Two big ol’ DTs in the Middle do a lot to shut down Tebow’s running lanes, add a couple of fast DEs and some active LBs into the mix and Timmy has a long day. 3- This was supposed to be Bowden’s year and Wake doesn’t look that strong, but then neither is Maryland. I look for Clemson to lose to Ga Tech and FSU, and posssibly the Gamecocks. If that comes to pass Bowden should be gone. 4- Oh really Tony, have You never heard of mass markets or demographics? West Coast and Mid-West Son, population centers, ratings, advertsing dollars, get a clue! 5- But what about Boise St? They were supposed to come into Athens and teach the Dawgs all about high scoring offenses, remember? Or was that the Rainbow Warriors in the Sugar Bowl? I forget.
By IM4BAMA
October 8, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Knowshon will have a big day.
Tebow is a great player and he will put up big numbers the rest of the year. Defenses haven’t “figured him out”, hell, everyone knows he going to run the ball and have for years.
Tommy Bowden- he’s a nice guy and I feel bad for him, but he’s not a great coach and the team dream is dead.
He, just like Fulmer got contract extensions last year from their schools when they both shouldn’t have. Now both schools are stuck with a difficult monetary decision. We made the same dumb mistake at Bama with Shula, but we didn’t blink and canned him. They should do the same or risk the programs going down.
Couldn’t agree more about USC being overrated and undeserving to go ahead of of any Big 12 or SEC team. I really would love to Bama vs. OU or Texas.
By BCS Champs Again
October 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Miles…RJF can take care of himself….his comments were reporting by an Orlando beat writer….you think he might be trying to fire up the Gators by adding his slana to RJF comments…he did not report how much respect RJF and the Tigers have for the Heisman trophy winner….sounds like he is trying to do Urban Cryers job in motivating the gators….who need no motivation as the Tigers have won 3 of the last for against the lizards….Geaux Tigers
By Will
October 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
I can’t wait for your pics Friday. Especially the “turds” vs LSU. I have a good friend who lives in GVille and is way down on Meyer and the Gayturds. He says the fans have not been impressed with any performance so far this season. I want to pick a LSU win but I can’t see Urban Lier with 2 losses half-way thru the season. I somehow see them pulling one out at home and have only one loss before the beatdown they get in JAX this year.
By Short Bus Dawg
October 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Moreno is easily the best player in the country and one of the best in the history of the ncaa. He puts up big numbers against the top defenses in the country, he doesn’t need a BIG GAME against tennessee to prove it.
By Hey Will
October 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
I’m sure the gayturds will be scared to death when they see the game film of how the DAWGS, dominated SC, AL, central Michigan, Ga Southern and that power Arizona State. lol. After this years beatdown the DAWGS will be what 4 wins in 20 years against the gayturds. lol. Geaux Tigers
By athensdawg
October 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Well, here we go again. USC is overrated. No they’re not. Yes they are. No they’re not. Sigh…….
Who cares?
I’ve got bigger things to worry about…like whether or not CMR is going to have the dawgs ready to play vs. UT…or if we are going to sleepwalk through yet another SEC game and then start playing our a** off when our backs are against the wall.
Every year, I get the feeling that UGA takes a week or two off during the season. Last year, UT and Vandy…this year ‘Bama, year before that…UT…the list goes on and on. Don’t get me wrong…I think that CMR is a great coach and a class act…but this “letdown game” every year is getting old. Why can’t we go out there and put forth a consistent effort week in and week out? Until we do, we will be the Atlanta Braves of the SEC…always in it till the end, but can’t win the big one.
As for defenses figuring out tebow…duh. Someone hurts you as bad as he does, you better figure out how to stop him.
The great ones can’t be stopped.
And, like Tony says, it will be interesting to see how he does with the cards stacked against him. Geaux Tigers!
By Huh?
October 8, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
BTW, Stu, the thing is that USC came back to be in a position where they could possibly win the game. Georgia never did.
Georgia wasn’t playing Oregon freaking State for crikes sake. Are you people serious? USC apologists are like a cult. That was an absolutely humiliating loss any way you shake it for USC. They had no business losing to that team, especially after having played only ONE game in the previous three weeks. They were well rested and SHOULD HAVE been adequately prepared after an off week. Georgia had just come off a two game road trip before their loss, one of which I might add was out in vaunted Pac 10 country. Georgia got it done on the road in the Pac 10. USC didn’t. You can put USC ahead of Georgia if you want, but don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by claiming that there is no legitimate argument to have UGA over USC. There most certainly is. The USC sense of entitlement is simply absurd.
By Atlanta Gator
October 8, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Sautee Dawg——Oops. I was talking about 2008, not 2007.
As for Tebow, his 2007 season stats speak for themselves and, IMHO, amply justify his winning the trophy. The 20-20 stat, his 900+ yards rushing, and his top-3 efficiency rating would be impressive in the Mountain West or PAC-10, let alone the SEC. Even on his worst day (Florida-Georgia), he still managed to turn in a gutsy performance and decent passing production. As for McFadden, well, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
In order to get back in the trophy hunt, the Dawgs need to win the remainder of their games, Moreno needs consistently big numbers for the remainder of the season, and he needs to look like he was a key part of the Dawgs’ wins.
Good luck to your Dawg kids against the Vols. Paybacks are hell, right?
By RICK
October 8, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Tony says Moreno needs to have a big game, well I am going to come out and say what some are already thinking.
Matthew Stafford needs to have a good game. I watched the UGA-AL game again and though he did not play bad, he got back into his old habbits. He did not step up into the pocket and there were quite a few times he ran out when he had time to deliver the ball down field.
Mark Richt and Mike Bobo had to coach him up concerning these bad habbits last year and you can be assured they had to do it again after the AL game.
Yes he has a rocket arm and quick feet, but he must be disciplined in the pocket.
The O-line did not always block that well for him but when they did he was running out early.
Stafford needs to have a good game.
By Expert
October 8, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Yes he does. I wonder how effective he’ll be with that elbow though. I doubt he gets much more than 15 carries. The Heisman is looking like a long shot to say the least. Then again, alot of folks wrote off Tebow’s Heisman hopes after the Georgia loss last year, and that was in early November. There still lots of football left for Knowshon to shine.
Its not just Tebow. I said last year that Florida was on the down hill. They are. And until Meyer grows a pair and starts running a more traditional offense they will remain that way. They were a much better team with Leak than they have been with Tebow. That speaks volumes.
USC has been consistantly overrated since the 2005 season. We are told they have by far and away the best talent and best coach in the nation. We are told that they have the easiest path to the BCS title game each and every year. And what do they have to show for it? A couple of Pac 10 titles and some humiliating losses. So pretty much nothing. It could easily be argued that no team has done less with more in the past 3 seasons than USC. Nevertheless, their losses are portrayed as abberations, despite the fact that they have now lost to a drastically lesser opponent three years in a row. They always get the benefit of the doubt in the media and the polls. They are always, without fail, ranked the highest of the teams with their record. Always. OVERRATED.
I could care less about BYU. I could care less about some crap mid major getting in to the BCS. I am tired of hearing about this garbage. It is meaningless. This tired story should have been put to bed after last year’s Sugar Bowl.
By polskidawg
October 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
1. Knowshon needs a big game against Tennessee: - yes he does, but for the reason you ended with - the team needs it for a win.
2. Defenses have adjusted to Tebow: - defenses have not only figured out Tebow (a fine plater), but DCs have figured out the “spread” offense. However, to defense it well does require A) strong line play (agility doesn’t hurt), B) FAST linebackers who hit hard and wrap-up, and C) patience. I believe there are at least 2 or 3 SEC teams that fit that description…
3. Tommy Bowden really needs a win: - cheer-up Klempson fans. You’ll at least hear the words, “I present you the coach of your Klempson Tigers, Bobby Johnson!” in December (right after Vandy’s bowl game)
4. I don’t understand the love affair with Southern Cal: - Now Tony, you know everything is better in SoCal!
5. BYU will bump into a glass ceiling: - exciting football, no doubt. Maybe, even top 15 team. Not even close to top 10 this year. At least 8 of those should be SEC/Big 12 teams all season.
By SEC Whinners
October 8, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
I see the SEC whinning extends to the writers as well as the fans.
1. Knowshow isn’t Heisman Trophy caliber, so stop the whinning, it ain’t going to happen.
4. It’s not just the Harris Poll, they all have USC ahead of Georgia, BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER. Yes they lost to OSU, they didn’t look good, but they were in the game and had a chance to win in the forth quarter, They BLEW OUT their other opponent including #5 Ohio State and #19 Oregon. Georgia was never in the game against Bama, and the played a second class programs (including a Div 1AA) to open the season, and didn’t look like any great power.Maybe Georgia will impress from here out, we’ll see.
By ChattHills Jacket
October 8, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
An UGA running and Hiding BACK ain’t gonna get the HARDWARE. NO SHOW IS THE OVERHYPED JOKE HE IS.
By Mayor of Thayor
October 8, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
I hope dem Tigas whoop up on dem Gatas. Real bad, son.
By Pi$$ on a DAWG
October 8, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
I paid for a KneeGA to work my fields in the 1890’s and he worked harder than moReno. Whip that afreekn butt into shape youz HEISMAN JOKE/choke. Get the NFL money and forget the EZ UGA DEGREE you were going to get handed to you anyway. Run KNEEga Run KNEEga Run.
By **FIGHT ON**
October 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
USC FIGHT ON USC
By SC Rules!!!
October 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Expert & HUH?: exactly!! You two morons are so damned pathetic! USC has 6 straight conf titles and 11 win seasons. That last one is an NCAA record. Don’t see your lame a$$ teams making that claim. They are 5-1 in BCS games during this stretch too. What’s the matter did Coach Carroll come into your crib and steal one or more of your boys to go play in L.A.! Y’all thump your chests about how bada$$ y’all are yet you wouldn’t get half a look if your momma and sister ever got tired and told you to get off and go bother the neighbors daughter instead!! Go hump your lizards and cats!!!
By Mike
October 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Pac Ten record in 2006 and 2007 vs BCS Conference opponents: 17-9 (65%). SEC record vs BCS conferences: 25-18 (58%). Maybe the SEC is overrated??????? Maybe the Pac Ten is normally better than the SEC????? Maybe that’s why USC gets some love??????????
By Tommy Trojan
October 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Tony Understand This.
6 straight 11 when seasons
6 straight BCS Bowls
5-1 BSC Bowl Record
* 2 National Championships in past 6 Years*
No loss by more than 7 points in 6 years
Have not lost 2 consecutive games in past 6 years
2 Heisman Trophy Winners in past 6 year
FIGHT ON FIGHT ON FIGHT ON
By holla at dat
October 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
The reason why USC should be ranked ahead of Georgia is because NO ONE, not even the most rapid UGA fan, would bet on Georgia if they played USC on a neutral field. And if anyone says they would, they are a lying UGA homer.
By OldGold
October 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Kno-Show won’t win anything as long as Mizzou, Texas, and OU keep rolling. Someone on one of these teams will win the Heisman. I don’t really care who wins, just a prediction.
By Kno-Yards
October 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Running backs that ARE better than UGA’s #24: Glen Coffee, Jon Dwyer, Charles Scott, Javon Ringer.. among others. Recent running backs that WERE better than UGA’s #24: Reggie Bush, Adrien Peterson, PJ Daniels, Tashard Choice, Kevin Smith…. He’s really good, but he’s NOT great.
By Tommy Trojan
October 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
I know that the Georgia fans learned the lyrics to Rammer Jammer the week before last (LMFAO).
Now you should all learn these lyrics, so that when you finally get a chance to meet the MIGHTY TROJANS you know the words to that song you will be hearing OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
____FIGHT ON______
“Fight on for ol’ SC, our men fight on to victory. Our Alma Mater dear looks up to you. Fight on and win for ol’ SC, fight on to victory—fight on!”
By Sean
October 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Don’t worry about BYU or Boise or Utah, their strength of schedule will collapse during conference play and they don’t have a chance of making the big game. Which is right because there’s no way those teams go 12-0 or 11-1 in a BCS conference, even the ACC or Big East.
By Sid
October 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
I get sick of stupid comments like” Knowshon Moreno struggled against Alabama”. Tony, the whole _ _ _ N team struggled so why put comments like the one above. Even Herschel or Bo would have struggled against Alabama that night. Why give the voters fodder to not vote for Knowshon ? Ridiculous !!!!!
By USC SUCKS
October 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
ya all u idiots thinkin USC should be ahead of UGA are freakin retarted. how in the heck can anybody compare us getting beat by 10 pts to the #8 team in the nation to getting absolutely gashed by a 5-7 190 pound freshmen from oregon state? really?? thats freakin terrible. and if im not mistaken, did i see somebody try to compare USC’s raping of ohio st to UGA getting beat by bama??? please….
By USC SUCKS
October 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
ya all u idiots thinkin USC should be ahead of UGA are freakin retarted. how in the heck can anybody compare us getting beat by 10 pts to the #8 team in the nation to USC getting absolutely gashed by a 5-7 190 pound freshmen from oregon state? really?? thats freakin terrible. and if im not mistaken, did i see somebody try to compare USC’s raping of ohio st to UGA getting beat by bama??? please….
By Dave In Tampa
October 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Knowshon is a good back, but his chances of a Heisman is slim and none with slim half way out the door. It’s not all his fault. Blocking schemes have broken down a lot. I’m not taking anything away from Alabama, but there were a ton of missed assignments. Running backs have to have great games every game. I’d like to see what would happen if he sticks around one more year.
Don’t knock Tebow. He is still very dangerous. He’s a tremendous leader on the field. Yes, I’m a Dawg, but facts are facts I don’t look forward to our defense on the field with Tebow.
Then again, let’s worry about UT first. It will be a close game. The great Pumpkin is always ready for us.
By Hey Goober (USC SUCKS)
October 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Hey Goober(USC SUCKS)
USC has beaten 2 top 20 teams this season. Who has jawga beaten?
The first ranked team (that is to say a team that plays in the FBS not a Div. 1AA team or some other second rate team), they played, they got their a*******es handed to them.
jawga will loses at least 2 more and this whole issue will be put to rest.
For you to try and claim that you had a chance againsy Bama is a joke, they OWNED YOU.
The Trojans lost to OSU in a game they had a chance of winning (a successful on-side kick). They lost and it was ugly, there is no denying that. But don’t try to claim the SOS Bu11 Sh!t until you start beating some of the teams that make it true, so far your 0-1 against the only team you have played that is in the Trojans class (Bama’s a good looking team, they struggled some last week but they are certainly good.)
Your OCS was much easier than USC’s, at this point in the year, USC has had a harder schedule than you.
Like I said your hard schedule is ahead of you, and so far, you look like sh!t.
By GATOR CHOMP
October 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
KNOW SHOW blew his chance of winning the Heisman Trophy with that poor performance against BAMA.Which means its Tebows trophy to lose “Book It” GO GATORS!!!!!!!
By Gary
October 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
Apparently SEC whiner has been watching too much ACC football and not enough SEC. True, Knowshon and the o-line did not have a good day against bama, but to say he is not a Heisman quality back is to pretty much ignore every other game.
Sure Georgia Southern, Central Michigan aren’t national powers, but they aren’t pushovers either(Central Michigan’s only other loss was a close one to Big 10’s Purdue). Arizona State, although not the Pac-10 power they were supposed to be, are still a well-coached team with a lot of talent. Knowhon is still among the national leaders in touchdowns and scoring.
Despite constantly shooting themselves in the foot in the first half of the Alabama game, the team rebounded to play an almost flawless 3rd quarter and dam near caught up to Bama. I think Tony makes a good point about SC but we won’t really know until the end of the season. Georgia has the talent to win out and I hope they do. They do have to man up on the o-line, but I’m looking forward to a rematch with Bama in the SEC championship game.
By the way, P** on a Dawg, what are you, 10? Grow up.
By voice of reason
October 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
(1) KM will have a huge game vs the vols. Sore elbow or not. (2) Poor Timmie Tebow is going to get himself hurt badly sooner or later under CUM’s system. Hate for the kid (merely because I do think he’s a good guy), but he ain’t runnin that crap on LSU or UGA. (3) Tommy Bowden might just get ran out of town if they don’t get something serious going and I don’t see it happening. Ton of great talent on that roster for all the letdowns. See ya CTB. (4) Why in the hell are you just now noticing the favoritism shown to USC? Didn’t they jump two or three spots the first week? Over other undefeated (at the time) teams! Something is really wrong with this system. But we all know that. In case you haven’t noticed, osu is starting to get a lot of attention with the media again just like I knew they would. Some people will never get it. (5) BYU will get into a BCS bowl game and get hammered by a much better team that will be battle tested from a tougher season. Hope for everyone’s sake it’s not UGA getting stuck playing someone that should not be there…AGAIN!
By Bob
October 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
The USC drones talk out of both sides of their mouth. They want everyone to respect USC’s schedule, but they also want the benefit of the argument that USC has more winnable games than Georgia from here on out. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Pardon me if I’m a bit confused. Which is it USC drones?
By TrueCrimson
October 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Auburn University has announced the firing of Offensive Coordinator Tony Franklin.
By BigFan
October 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
I like Knowshon, but don’t kid everybody, his named is not mentioned in the national press. All they can talk about is the QB’s in the Big 12. Tebow doesn’t even get press anymore. I guess the SEC doesn’t count for anything, except National Championships.
By Hey Bob
October 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
As you SEC whinners love to say, You and your jawga puppy dogs go beat somebody, than you can talk some sh!t. As of now you are 1-1 against anyone who counts. You beat ASU, but got SPANKED by Bama. Your an average team as far as I can see. Win something and than start your dribble, until than STFU GOBBER.
By YoungDawg
October 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
Tony, please give your thought &/or your knowledge about Auburn firing Tony Franklin
By AGU
October 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
There will be no Heisman’s or National Championships in Athens this year. Too many injuries & not quite as much depth as we thought. We are missing those Defensive Ends that are gone. Some of these late hits would not have happened last year, they would have gotten there a second sooner.I am convinced that WM cannot make adjustments during the game. If he is missing, just a bit of talent, he looks really bad.We can have a good year, but it is just not there this year.
By Forrest Gump
October 8, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
College Football Dude: Please do not stir up the disillusioned puppies with mention of Knowshon Moreno and the Heisman Trophy. Moreno is a good athlete but no better than average SEC running back. He gained 35 yards in the first game against a real football team and was injured in the process. He will not go high in the draft, if at all, and will likely finish this season on the sideline. Please do not encourage a tide of whining from the Paris-Hilton puppies in Athens.
By Bob's a Douche
October 8, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
USC has 2 wins over RANKED teams. Who has Georgia beat, DOUSHE BAG?
By Bob's a Douche
October 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
USC has 2 wins over RANKED teams. Who has Georgia beat DOUCHE BAG?
By TrueCrimson
October 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
What is a whinner?
What is a gobber?
Do any West Coast football fans know how to spell? I thought you guys had academic superiority?
By Sautee Dawg
October 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator,
Good luck 2 your kids also against LSU this week, A Gator win against LSU and maybe our guys get another win, the Game in JAX might be bigger than what we thought. As if it could get any bigger.
By TrueCrimson
October 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Tony Franklin Fired
http://www.dothaneagle.com/dea/sports/college/auburn/article/tonyfranklinfiredasauburnsoffensivecoordinator/40172/
By Bob
October 8, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
Oregon isn’t ranked anymore. You cannot count them as a win over a ranked team if they are not currently ranked. And don’t say its only because USC beat them because that would mean you are full of crap. South Carolina has the same record as Oregon and would be ranked if…guess what?….Georgia hadn’t beaten them. So you see USC drones, you are full of nothing more than double standards, myths, and bogus arguments. USC is a good team and they deserve better fans than you. That’s all I’m saying.
By Learned one
October 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
Enough with the Knowshow Knowshon Heisman hype. The guy gets driven into the ground to the tune of a paltry 35 yards against the only real defense he has faced and gets an injury in the buttwhipping and you dawg fans are hyping this guy for Heisman. Puhhhlease!!!
I noticed a couple of exscuses for the beatdown. Dave said it was a lot of missed assignments by the UGA o-lineman. I didn’t realize Dave was a coach and knew who the various UGA lineman were supposed to block on every play.
Some other idiot said UGA lost by only 10 pts and would like a rematch with the Bammers. UGA only got to within 14 because 2-3 blocking in the back penalties weren’t called on that punt return. Even when they were spotted this td by the zebras the Bammers quickly scored 10 pts to make it 41-17. The 2 uga tds with 3 garbage time minutes left in the game made the score a respectable 41-30 loss that masked the brutal beatdown.
And yet ya still have some imbecile UGA homers clammoring for a rematch and also touting Knowshow for the Heisman. You UGA folk are funny. Keep drinking that kool-aid dawg fans.
By Spank This
October 8, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Hey Spanky and all of the USC lovers…..I could be wrong, but I do believe the Oregon State score was 21-0 at the half. I don’t really care about the Georgia - USC back and forth but you guys trashing these dawg people about getting man-handled by Alabama should lighten up.
Compare that beast on the Alabama defensive line to the little tailback from Oregon State who ran through you like sh*t through a goose. If you are gonna get beat, get beat by the big boys.
Just thought your diatribes needed a little reality spank…..spanky.
By Old Dawg
October 8, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
It’s a simple as this for the Dawgs: weak offensive line, weak running game. If, and when, the UGA offensive line improves so too will Moreno’s numbers.
As for Florida’s offensive problems, defensive coaches have caught up with the spread and learned how to slow it down. Florida doesn’t have a great tailback to compliment Tebow and Harvin, so the rest of the scheme suffers.
USC is a good team in a weak conference. Even if it beats Notre Dame, that’s no great thing because the Irish have a weaker than normal schedule.
By lvdawg1
October 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Tony, I usually agree with what you say but take issue with the BYU comment. I am a huge Dawg fan and a Camden Wildact ‘82 living in Nevada. I have seen every BYU game this year and they are nothing like Hawaii. They may be the most physical team in college football as they average 330 on the o line and all bench over 500. They have a 245 rb that runs a 4.5 and is more physical than any back in the SEC. Hawaii was soft; BYU plays smashmouth football. If UGA had BYU’s o line they would score 50 pts a game cause they have better skill players. Ask anyone who knows college football Tony about the physicality of BYU. If you think Bama’s line was physical, watch the BYU/UCLA game. Go Dawgs and avenge the last 2 games w/ UT!
By Fired Up Dawg
October 8, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Tony- If you want to figure out who is #1 based on what you think is important check out the website www.fanformula.com It will help you with your argument
By SC Rules!!!
October 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Hey goober, Elvis and dawg dump; Y’all had the favor of everyone when the season started and now??? Quit yer b!tchin’ and win the SEC and then have the nads to show up in Miami; Cushing & Rey Rey will be waiting!!!!!!! Don’t go wettin’ yourselves to sleep tonight! Have a take and try not to suck!!!! Thanks for the vine Jim; I’m out! Fight On!!!!!!
By BIG DAWG 17
October 8, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this
I wish everyone would just keep quiet about Knowshon and the heisman just play let him play hard and help us win. The only way an SEC player can win the heisman is if the media is behind them pushing for them. Yea, I know Tebow won it last year and to take nothing from him, he is a great player. Last year at the time he won the heisman, Florida had three losses, those were to UGA, AUB, and LSU there three biggest games. The rest of the games Florida won….they probably could have won without Tebow. What I’m saying is I have seen heisman candidates not win the trophy because their team had one or two losses. No other player from the SEC would ever have won the heisman with three losses to there three biggest games of the year.
By CHARLOTTE DAWG
October 8, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
GATOR CHOMP continues to be an idiot. “BOOK IT”
By Buzzfan1936
October 8, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this
I must confess, I miss the ancient rivalries when Tech was in the SEC: Vols [Game of the Year in 1956 when Tenn. was #2 and Tech #3], Tide [knocking Joe Namath out of #1 in 1962], Auburn, Gators - even the rivalry with the Bulldogs [Theron Sapp breaking the Draught in 1957] is not quite the same. I don’t think Chan Gailey thought that beating the Dawgs was as important as winning an ACC game - one of the reasons he is gone. Oh well, life goes on.
By Big Picture Dawg
October 8, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
To all you Georgia haters, don’t worry, we’ll be fine. Our lines will get better, our D will play better. We’ll start our comeback on Saturday with a Vol implosion. Moreno will get his yards. I agree with an earlier poster, Vandy’s Johnson to Clemson - mark it down. Gators beat LSU, the QB’s won’t be able to handle the Swamp. As for USC, they remind me of GA, they go to sleep at least once a year…or more. They deserve respect, they have dominated the PAC 10 for years, they always do well with major out of conference competition, and becuase of the long term Big 10/Pac 10 ties, have the majority of votes. While we have gotten screwed over the years, right now, I think the SEC is getting the national respect we deserve. What about Tubs firing his OC?
By uga is overated
October 8, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Hey Big Picture Dawg. Here is the big picture YOUR TEAM IS A OVERATED BUNCH OF THUGS AND PUNKS. No SEC titl NO national title no sheot beothces.
By MidnightRambler
October 8, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
75 of Tech’s 110 players are freshmen or sophomores. The future looks bright for the Jackets. Look out, Dawgs! The Rivalry is B-A-A-C-K!
By Charles
October 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this
Tony, I agree that the Big 12 have several good to great quarterbacks. However, Missouri is the only team in the Big 12 to play another top 25 team (Illinois) and win. Nebraska played Virginia Tech and lost. OK, Texas, Texas Tech have played no one. Oklahomas victory over TCU is the best victory among these 3 teams. I think OK is a great team, but we won’t know until they play somebody. So I agree that the Big 12 has the best stable of QB’s, but they need to play somebody.
By Chris in Bama
October 8, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this
SC Rules and Everybody else
I think I am the only SEC addict and probably the only Bama fan that has the balls to say it but here goes. USC deserves to be right where they are (better than UGA) BUT I do NOT agree with you saying that USC will toy with the best SEC team or the Best Big12 team. That is actually a ridiculous comment.
If USC plays LSU or Bama they will have hell on their hands. The way it looks to me is that as of right now LSU would win against USC and Bama would lose to USC. I don’t believe Bama should be number 2 because they beat a severely overrated Georgia (#20 or worse IMO). The SEC IS overrated this year in some ways. for example Auburn shouldn’t be in the top 30, UGA shouldn’t be in the top 20, Bama should be back to about number 6 or 7 but LSU should be #1-2. here is how I see the top 10
By desertdawg
October 9, 2008 12:57 AM | Link to this
lets play and see what happens for Christs sake—-USC is done with their weak a$$ schedule—6 STRAIGHT TITLES/5-1 IN BCS BOWLS—WHO GIVES A CRAP???? Come on down and play GA/FLA/TENN/BAMA/ AUB/SC/LSU/MISS and see what happends—yeah ya spanked Ark a few years back and beat Auburn as well—then went back west and played wa/asu/az/osu(LOST)/wsu/ cal/ MIGHTY stanford—you guys suck—hows OJ doing ??
By John
October 9, 2008 7:13 AM | Link to this
Good Lord, can you people please just hush about all this nonsense and get a life - or at least learn how to spell?
USC homers - it doesn’t matter what you, I, or anybody else thinks at this point in time - what’s really important is “whiners” is spelled with one “n” and fourth is the number, “forth” is a direction.
Also, you’ve got to love guys that misspell in BOLD and all caps, like the ASSUALT charges coming up NC weekend against the mighty Trojans.
Here’s my two cents worth - not one rabid homer (my fellow Dawgs included) writing this nonsense ever played a down in college, myself included. The truth is, no matter how good a team is today, injuries can play a major factor in how teams look a couple of months from now - take Tebow off FL, give Sanchez’ bum knee another bad hit and have him miss significant time, they’ll be different teams. Right now today I’d have to honestly say at best UGA is third or fourth (SIC) best team in the SEC, but I wouldn’t have placed them that high after UT last year and arguably they could have been the best team in the nation at the end of the season, but we’ll never know for sure because we had to play Hawaii because UT earned the right to play in the SEC championship - they choked one less crucial game than we did. Alabama looked great against us, but if Mount Cody goes down or they lose Wilson, will they be as good?
Who knows? All I can say for sure is this: my team may not be able to beat your team in football, but apparently my degree from UGA is worth more that one from USC, given the total inability of the homers expressing their opinions on this page to communicate in proper, readable English with correct spellings - and we aren’t talking about simple typos, we’re talking about using simple words in proper context.
And if you do want to claim your error is a typo, please take the time to proofread your future comment before posting it.
Remember, an opinion is like an anus - everybody has one! I probably could care less about yours, but your butchering of the English language does provoke me!
By Just a Thought
October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
To Chris in Bama
It was refreshing to read your post. I don’t know if you’re right, or wrong, I just appreciate your honesty and your willingness to admit, perhaps a team from a conference other than your own has value.
To John
Get over yourself. This is a blog; nobody here should be worried about proper syntax for God’s sake. You obviously understood whatever the post you are referring to said, you just want to use this intellectual angle to ridicule someone with an opinion that differs from your own.
I’m sure your mother is very proud you got your degree from the University of Georgia Johnny, but I am not convinced that comparing your post to another on this blog is representative of the value of that degree, compared to that of one from the University of Southern California. I am confident both schools offer highly regarded degrees.
You pointed out that nobody on this blog played any college ball, likewise most of the players on the teams mentioned are not likely to actually get a degree from the University’s they are representing, at least not the star players, whom will most likely leave school early to pursue a career in the NFL (those that can).
So Johnny, lighten up dude.
(if I mispelled anything please forgive me, God knows I wouldn’t want to provoke you)