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USC, Oklahoma, Georgia: Who’s the odd man out?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
ESPN.com’s Mark Schlabach raised this point to me the other night when we were getting ready for our TV show, “Talkin Football,” on CSS. I know it’s way too early to be thinking about this kind of stuff and that the odds are greatly against it. But what if No. 1 Southern Cal, No. 2 Oklahoma, and No. 3 Georgia all go undefeated?
Which team would be the odd man out for the BCS championship game?
It’s not that far-fetched. It certainly happened in 2004 when USC and Oklahoma went undefeated and Auburn, the undefeated SEC champion, finished No. 3.
In 2003 Southern Cal was No. 1 in both human polls but the BCS standings put the Trojans at No. 3 and LSU and Oklahoma played for the BCS championship. But remember that the formula for the BCS standings has been changed since then to give greater weight to the human polls.
If you don’t pay attention to the rankings and start with a blank slate on the night of Dec. 6 (championship Saturday), the odd man out would have to be Southern Cal because the Trojans’ schedule is significantly weaker than Oklahoma’s or Georgia’s. I did a little research using the 1-120 rankings on CBSSports.com. Now I understand that the rankings will look nothing like this on Dec. 6. But it does provide a pretty good early comparison of the relative strengths of the schedules that these three teams are going to have to play.
For this comparison, understand that Georgia could be replaced by Florida, Alabama, or LSU. The numbers for the SEC champion would be pretty much the same. But Georgia is No. 3 right now so we’ll use the Bulldogs for this exercise.
Here is how the schedules of Southern Cal, Oklahoma, and Georgia compare with the ranking of each opponent in parentheses. Only Division I-A opponents are included:
No. 1 SOUTHERN CAL: Virginia (89), Ohio State (13), Oregon State (69), Oregon (27), Arizona State (43), Washington State (98), Arizona (49), Washington (94), California (55), Stanford (63), Notre Dame (50), UCLA (58).
Average opponents’ rank: 59.
Worth noting: Southern Cal plays eight teams ranked No. 50 or higher and three teams ranked No. 89 or higher.
No. 2 OKLAHOMA: Cincinnati (34), Washington (94), TCU (30), Baylor (80), Texas (7), Kansas (17), Kansas State (64), Nebraska (37), Texas A&M (90), Texas Tech (11), Oklahoma State (31).
Average opponents’ rank: 45.
Worth noting: If Oklahoma plays No. 4 Missouri in the Big 12 championship game, the opponent’s average rank drops to 41.6. Oklahoma plays four teams ranked No. 50 or higher and two teams (Texas, Texas Tech) in the Top 11.
No. 3 GEORGIA: Central Michigan (71), South Carolina (53), Arizona State (43), Alabama (9), Tennessee (52), Vanderbilt (25), LSU (5), Florida (4), Kentucky (48), Auburn (12), Georgia Tech (32).
Average opponent’s rank:32.2.
Worth noting: If Georgia makes it to the SEC championship game the Bulldogs will have a rematch with Alabama, Auburn, or LSU, which are all ranked in the Top 12. Georgia plays three teams ranked No. 50 or higher and none ranked higher than 71. Six of its 11 Division I-A opponents are ranked in the Top 32. Four are in the Top 12.
Here is what will be interesting. The first BCS standings will be released on Oct. 19. Take a look at where USC will be in the six computer polls, which will reflect the strength of schedules. I’ll bet the computer rankings for USC will be pretty low relative to the highest ranked Big 12 and SEC team. And the way the Pac-10 looks right now, Ohio State will be the only Top 15 win on the USC schedule at the end of the season.
But will the voters in the Harris and coaches polls take the strength of schedule into consideration, or does USC stay at No.1 if the Trojans keep winning? That team has a lot of star power and will score a lot of points.
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville told me that he’s concerned that the voters west of the Mississippi don’t understand how good the defenses are in the SEC and equate low-scoring football to bad football. Is he right?
Like I said, it’s way too early. But it is something to think about as we move forward.




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Comments
By spike
September 24, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this
ony, with our schedule as compared with either that PAC 10 or Big 12 schedule, it is indeed a no brainer. Somebody has to go, and it should not be UGA.
By TampaGator
September 24, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this
The formula: Florida defeats Georgia again in Jax. End of story! But I don’t think anyone will go undefeated in the SEC. So Oklahoma and USC play for the title.
By GaDawg
September 24, 2008 7:09 AM | Link to this
Tampagator good luck with that, BEWARE THE DAWGS in JAX. Another DAWG victory and a underfaeted season, later gator. GO DAWGS
By FLA DAWG
September 24, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this
What if, what if, what if……………we’ve got more than enough to write about today than what if UGA, USC & Oklahoma go undefeated.
We’re playing Bama - that’s it - this is the only game at hand.
UNCHAIN THE YARD DAWGS !!!!!!
By Nachos
September 24, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this
UGAy will be the one left out. They will lose this Saturday night, and they will then lose to Florida. The drunken sidewalk alumni will then cry in their beer for the next 364 days.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
September 24, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this
Taking away my fandom for UGA, which is impossible for some, if any team from the SEC goes undefeated they should play for the NT. But, no way does USC get shut out, to sexxy of a team and to much of a draw Nationally. Want happen. Iwould bet at this point it will be Mizz and USC. Can’t see Mizz losing again to Oklahoma. Also with the strength of the SEC hard to imagine any team able to go undefeated.
GOOO DAWGS!!!
By T-Bone
September 24, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
I sure hope that Tuberville is not referring to his 3-2 loss to Miss. State. The Jackets domination of the other Bulldogs should have put an end to that argument.
Go Jackets! Long live Paul Johnson!
Or as one headline put it, “Johnson is big on Tech campus!”
By steve
September 24, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
One game @ a time.But if they go undefeated they should not get left out.For that matter any undefeated SEC champ should not get left out.GO!!!!DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!
By FLA DAWG
September 24, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this
Hey T-Bone and other guys,
Speaking of GT, did you notice anything strange about that game? Well, half of the upper decks were empty!
Incredible that a team with one loss - damn close to being undeafeated, located in Atlanta, playing an SEC Team is unable to fill their stadium.
GT Players deserve better. Those guys played their hearts out for their school and a fan base that can’t or won’t fill their small stadium.
By BravesFan79
September 24, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Anyone who STILL thinks College Football dosent badly need a playoff system… is a IDIOT!!
I believe the eventual SEC champ (hopefully UGA) will have 1 loss, and that hopefully OU will have 1 loss. Then the real debates begin. Another year of contoversy…another year of the WORST postseason in the history of sports!!
By martin
September 24, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
Tony what about Utah! Yes two of the computers used to select our National Championship matchup, have Utah Number 1 and Number 2.
Who are these geeks that are allowed to help pick the “Matchup”?
Time for some kind of playoff even if its just 4 teams.
By m
September 24, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this
We heard that same CRAP about sec defenses when Tech played Miss St. Miss St held AuBARN (a strong contender in the sec west) to a measly 3 points. So there were a lot of predictions by you sec inbreeds that Tech might not even score on that mighty sec defense. So Tech goes out and puts 38 on that mighty sec defense that held auBARN to 3. The sec is all hype. The problem the sec has is they eventually have to play the games and can’t just go by some biased HOMER (or is that GOMER) like Tony Barnyard. No wonder you sec fans look alike…you are all inbreeds….and apparently blind.
By With that logic
September 24, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
Interesting analysis. So I looked at my own team…Penn State. As you say, include only Div 1-A (so we take out Coastal Carolina). Penn State has beaten or will play Oregon St (69), Syracuse (107), Temple (92), Illinois (23), Purdue (38), Wisconsin (8), Michigan (54), Ohio St (13), Iowa (47), Indiana (68) and Michigan St (33). Average opponents’ rank = 50 (which is higher than USC). If we could consider Syracuse being a Div-II team, that would make the average rank 44.5. But anyway…that’s six teams ranked higher than 50. One team in the top 8, and three teams higher than 89. All beat USC’s strength of schedule. So let’s just take USC out of it and make it a three-way race among Oklahoma (which will lose at least one game) and Georgia (which will more than likely lose 2 or more games). But to cater to the SEC nation, I say let Georgia play Penn State for the National Championship. Deja vu like ‘82. WE ARE…PENN STATE!
By saint nick
September 24, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
blah,blah,blah,Moreno,blah,blah,Green,bl ah,blah,blah,stafford,blah,blah!!!!! It doesn’t matter how many “playmakers” you have!!! An all-american, Remington trophy winning center needed HELP blocking MT. CODY last week, SO your true freshmen linemen are gonna block this guy?????NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Bama’s D-line will be in Stafford’s grill all night!!!!
By BCShater
September 24, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
The BCS is a joke and is more about popularity and appeal on a national level than putting the best two teams in college football together. And to be perfectly honest, a one loss SEC team deserves to be in the NT game over almost any other undefeated team.
By Tom, Resident Georgia Fan
September 24, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
m … go tend to your goat. It’s breeding time.
By reality check
September 24, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
The SEC champion is unlikely to be undefeated and the Big 12 has a history of upsets in their championship game.
Any prediction before the last weekend is way too early.
By noname
September 24, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
USC would stomp any team mentioned here. Everyone else is playing for #2.
By Spanky
September 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Interesting that you leave out 1-AA opponents when USC hasn’t played any. Throw one of those in for UGA and OK ranked at 120 and see what that does to your standings (hint: it puts you up around 40). I’d like to see the rankings for Missou as well. Also, for the SEC, most of those rankings will go down (SC, Tennessee, Vandy, KY, Auburn, GT) as teams lose; the impact won’t be as severe in the Big 12 or Pac 10 as their teams started off ranked lower.
Most likely scenario - USC vs SEC champ, due more to the media bias toward the SEC (yes, it is in full effect this year) than any shortfall of Oklahoma, Missouri, or yes, even Penn State. Interesting question brought up above, if PSU runs the table, do they get any respect coming from the Big 10? 12-0 PSU vs 11-1 USC? 12-0 PSU vs. 12-1 UGA?
By saint nick
September 24, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Yeah just like you stomped UVA, which in turned got stomped by UCONN!!!! Come on, USC will lose 1 somewhere and with that weakA$$ schedule, USC WILL BE LEFT OUT!!!!!
By Heyberto
September 24, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
It’s a fair question to ask at this point… and USC should be the odd man out, becuase they have a cupcake schedule. That’s not their fault, but still. A one loss SEC team should still make it in over an unbeaten USC.
By FLA DAWG
September 24, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
noname(figures),
Tell us, how many SEC Teams does USC have scheduled during their regular season this year?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
By TK Harty
September 24, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
m, Where’s the greyhound comment? BTW, seen my cane? GFY
By Forest Gump
September 24, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
So far, Georgia has played a ridiculously easy schedule and not looked all that good in the process. After Georgia loses a couple of games, beginning this Saturday, the chorus of whining will start, led by Sonny Perdue, Mike Adams, and Mark Richt.
By Gen Neyland
September 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Don’t quite understand how conferences that shun the format for a CCG stay in the running for the BCSCG. This could be a starting point to mandate playing for the Crystal Football…
By 2N4YEARS
September 24, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Every year the ‘media’ finds a way to to avoid their beloved USC to be matched up with someone OTHER than a SEC opponent. We all know the REAL reason. Although after Ohio St. got blasted 2 years in a row by a SEC team, the ‘media’ still ranked them in the top 3 at the start of the season. Why all the love for these frauds??? Okla gets beat by LSU in BCS, OhioSt gets blown out in ‘06 BCS by FLA, ‘07 by LSU. USC get beat in BCS by Texas. What do we have after all of this nonsence?? More of the same: USC, Okla & OhioSt(at start of season) at the top of the polls. Absolutely laughable.
By Mikey in the SAV
September 24, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Not that we needed bulletin board material, but Scott Cochran,one of the Tide’s coaches said we were wearing black because we are going to our mother **ing funeral. Nice.. Real nice job, Scott.
Make sure you say those kind of things while the camera is rolling during practice…
We will see about that, Scott.
By GT
September 24, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
The problem with all this is it is human input. Last year I watch for, and the year before, a certain victory from Ohio State if I were to believe the pundits. Most of the pundits had an agenda of keeping the ratings for their paper or television up. They also could not let a Georgia play Southern Cal because it might upstage the “big game” and leave questions on who is the number one team even after the playoff. So we got to watch Ga. in a worthless match up with Hawaii and USC in an equal Rose Bowl embarrassment in order to have the results they wanted. Ohio State got reality early this year with USC, and hats off to them for doing something the NCAA doesn’t have the courage to do, match themselves up with a real contest. I am even thinking in the finals last year LSU was chosen because they were weaker than Georgia, but OSU couldn’t even beat the second best team in the conference. Maybe it is good to play to the gallery and forget reality. I sure like college football and I think most of us realize the prettiest girl does not always win the beauty contest, but I get to see Georgia and Tech play every year and after we lose I don’t much care.
By jackets
September 24, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
FLA DAWG - the stands looked empty because it was like 38-0 in the fourth quarter.. against one of the top sec defenses… can you say, over-ranked.. by the end of the season.. the SEC will not have the same strength of schedule as it has now because everyone will realize the defenses arent really that good.. and the offenses are pretty bad.. THAT is why SEC teams rarely run the score up
By Joel in ATL
September 24, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter how “sexy” USC looks becasue with their schedule and the state of the Pac 10 THEY SHOULD look sexy. If Ohio State stumbles a couple of times then their win over them will not matter. Another thing to point out is that USC can’t win the close ball games becasue they are so use to putting up points with little resistence so does that signify a National Champion team. Let’s face it USC will seriously have to blow everybody on their schedule out by at least 21 to make it in. The Big 12 and SEC are to solid and their winners of those conference will have the upper hand on USC. There is a long way to go but it looks to me it’s going to be a SEC/Big 12 BCS title game. Funny how the human polls will keep USC Number 1 so as to “offset” the computer polls in an attempt to keep them number 1 (by average).
By birddog knot
September 24, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Call it what it is people”THE SLACK 10”!!!!!
By AUtiger
September 24, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Tech won big because Miss St. had 4 turnovers. Big deal. The SEC is best conference and the ACC sucks.
By RxDawg
September 24, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
“If you don’t pay attention to the rankings and start with a blank slate on the night of Dec. 6 (championship Saturday), the odd man out would have to be Southern Cal because the Trojans’ schedule is significantly weaker than Oklahoma’s or Georgia’s. “
This. End of disscusion.
By reebok
September 24, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
IMHO, of course…No one in the SEC will go undefeated, probably no one in the Big 12 either. There are too many good teams in both conferences. National Title game will be Southern Cal vs. either the Big 12 champ or the SEC champ…somebody is going to get $crewe6.
By GeoffDawg
September 24, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
You have no credibility jackets. It would be easier to take you seriously if the ACC could put together a couple decent seasons in a row or even win a BCS bowl game before you start mouthing off.
By AltamahaDawg
September 24, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
yea, that’s it, SOS are strickly a subjective measure, assigned based on what people “realize”.
and its over-rated not over-ranked Dumbass.
By Miles
September 24, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Be honest folks…USC’s Pac 10 schedule is weak…even if you consider the win over Ohio State as significant at this point, you may change change your mind if Ohio State does not win the Big 10…based on what we’ve seen thus far, Ohio State really does not look that tough…Illinois and Michigan State look good enough right now to win the Big Ten…if either of these two teams were to win their conference, USC’s win over the Buckeyes would be further diminished…the point is that USC looks good in the same way that Hawaii looked good last year, i.e., they looked fast against very slow opponents…remember what happened to Hawaii when the met Georgia in the postseason?…this game was a fresh reminder that an opponent’s schedule is a clear indicator (as Tony Barnhart has indicated) of a team’s true toughness…the SEC and the Big 12 are the toughest schedules/conferences in America…interestingly, if there were an undefeated SEC team and a one loss SEC team at the end of the season (let’s say Georgia and Florida, for example) and there was a school from another conference that was undefeated (let’s say USC, for example), the most honorable and honest thing to do in terms of determining who would play in the national championship would be to look at the strength of schedule…therefore, you’d have two teams from the same conference, i.e., Georgia and Florida, playing for the national championship rather than USC (and its undefeated weak victories)…what has Tommy Hansen done to strengthen the Pac 10? The backbone of college football is conference strength…the brains of the a conference rest with its commissioner…hats off to Mike Slive!
By Nice Guy
September 24, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
People, please read the original question. It says If, IF, If all 3 go undefeated, who gets left out.
WE know GA can lose but the man just want to have some fun on who you think gets left out if all 3 runs the table. That can happen you know, I don’t see anyone dominating GA on there schedule. And don’t get too excited because FLA spanked UT. They did that last year and GA reeled them in Jax. And remember, we have AL at home people and we always play well in Auburn. So to me there is no reason why GA can’t run the table. It’s tough of course but it can be done.
But if all 3 runs the table, no way GA gets left out. No disrespect to USC but there is no one that’s a serious threat to them in the PAC10. No one outside the SEC plays defense. Don’t underestimate the SC win, it was against a good and talented defense and SC would be one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the other conferences.
But it doesn’t matter who’s #1, but who’s #2.
By Rob
September 24, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Don’t worry uga won’t finish unbeaten!
By baloney
September 24, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
If the conversation included Mark Schlabach it should be thrown out. Schlabach is a little TWERP.
By Drew
September 24, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
USC is a lock, the debate only comes down to OU and UGA. I’d like to say that the deciding factor should be the points we each win our conference championship by. say if Georgia beats Alabama by 25 and OU beats Mizzou by 7, Georgia’s in.
The Pac-10/SEC matchup would be one that more people want to see therefore would mean the biggest payday. Thats a cinch.
My buddy brought up to me that if OU and UGA both go undefeated and blow out both conference championships, that the NCAA should screw USC and pit OU vs. UGA in Miami. That only makes sense though right?
By bama22
September 24, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Hey Mickey, Drink another beer asswipe!! What is the address for the flowers to be send to the dawgs funeral!!
By deeznutz
September 24, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Worth noting: both Oklahoma and Georgia (and LSU, Florida, actually any SEC school) also played I-AA teams while USC did not. USC plays 9 conference games, with non-conference matchups with UVA (ACC), Ohio State (Big10…played in the last 2 championship games), and Notre Dame (suck now but a traditional power). You’ve got to give them credit where it’s due. They’re not ducking anyone, unlike the other guys.
By Media=JOKE
September 24, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Okay I’m a little confused. Before the season started the media said Georgia could get in even with one loss. That seemed to be a widely held consensus out of the “experts”. Now it takes an undefeated season? These media clowns are flip flopping all over the place and cannot make up their minds. This is what happens when you start running your mouths before anything has happened for you to run your mouths about. You would think the media would one day learn its lesson, but I have my doubts.
Incidentally, if Georgia does somehow find away to get through its season relatively unscathed, you can bet that schedule won’t be so “impossible” anymore in the eyes of the media. They will be suffering from an acute bout of amnesia about what they were saying only a couple of months previous. I can hear it now: “Difficult schedule? What difficult schedule? I have no idea what you are talking about.” How convenient. This will be especially true if one of their darlings is ranked above Georgia. USC and OU definitely fit that bill.
I’m not saying Georgia gets it done this year, but if they do you can count on all of the above and take it to the bank. You heard it here first. I can see this coming from a thousand miles away. The media is so predictable.
By SC Rules!!!
September 24, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
FLADAWG,
How many MORE times do we need to come to your crib to kick your sorry areses to make the point we ARE better than you!? You run your suck about how great y’all are and how we “never” play anyone, yet when we’ve played y’all there is ALWAYS an excuse as to whey that loss to us doesn’t count. Get over yourselves and just try and compete with us!!! USC Trojans #1!!! Y’all are fightin’ for #2!!!
By Tom in ATL
September 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
M - Congrats to Tech for their well earned and suprising easy victory over Miss. State. However, beating up on the perennial worst team in the SEC does not mean that the SEC is hype, and particularly SEC defenses are a product of media hype. Go ahead and thump your chest - you beat Miss. State, badly. It was one game - and the lopsided score was primarily due to turnovers (Miss State - 4, Tech - 0). You gave up over 400 yards to the worst offense the SEC has to offer. Does that mean Tech’s defense is awful? No - I think it’s quite good. But the facts say Tech’s defense gave up over 400 yards to a pitiful offense. So you can’t have it both ways - But to your credit, you took advantage of the gifts, built a big lead, and got a good home win. Just don’t hurt yourselves chest beating that the ACC is superior to the SEC, or The SEC is media hype. You’ll have another opportunity to prove your superiority to the SEC in a couple of months.
By dawg92
September 24, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
The best thing that could happen to college football is for USC to be left out.
If an undefeated, star filled squad from USC were left out the media would have a hissy fit. They’d probably institute an immediate plus one system and call for a new NC game in pasadena. At the very least it would bring the topic of a playoff system back to the table.
Of course if it happens to any other school, other than Notre Dame or OSU, the media will disregaurd and turn their attention back to slobbering over USC.
It’s still too early to be talking about this but interesting topic. I for one think no one will be undefeated this year .
By AltamahaDawg
September 24, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Not to mention MSU is far from the “top defense in the SEC”. In fact they are almost last in everything except pass defense. (mostly because they have only defended 39 passes all year) Did you pass the ball against them? HMMMM? Is that what leads you to believe that tech is now much better, than all those “over-ranked” SEC defenses?
Or did you run against one of the worse run defense team in the SEC??? whose offense is not good enough to stay on the field very long.
By SC Rules!!!
September 24, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Food for thought, EVERYONE is giving OU a pass into the Big 12 championship game vs Mizzou, yet Texas is lurking in the weeds and they have a very real chance to run the table and put themselves into the NC mix. Could make for a very cool rematch of the ‘06 NC game in the Rose Bowl.
By DawginLex
September 24, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
USC and OK will choke, they always do. UGA will not lose to florida. The gaytor offense is not clicking and UGA will shut it down. After making Cody wish he hadn’t eaten all those cheeseburgers this Saturday night, the Vols and gaytors will be next in line to get whipped.
Vandy might give us our toughest game left on the schedule.
By Chris
September 24, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
I think the real question is: Who is the best team in college football? The obvious answer is: USC. If you had to place all your life savings on a team to win a game it would be USC. They are nasty at every position. Maybe things will look different at the end of the season, but at this point in the season my opinion is the game should have USC and somebody else.
By LT
September 24, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Fun to talk about but it isn’t going to happen. USC is going to go undefeated. The winner of the SEC championship is most likely to finish the season with at least one loss. They’re going to have to hope OK gets tripped up by TX, KS, or TX Tech.
I’m wondering who would get to play USC if that happens? OK or SEC champion? It would be extremely close.
By dave
September 24, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Tony, I sent that same question 2 weeks ago to your TV program…but, I picked Florida to win the S.E.C.simply, because UF has so many more play makers and they are much faster than UG, which only has 3 play makers, Moreno, Stafford and Green.I think UG schedule is brutal. They play 3 teams in the top 10, ALabama, LSU and Florida, 2 of those games away from Athens. in addition to playing Auburn. I think UG will really struggle and stumble in the SEC this year, starting with Alabama this week… look for UG to finish the season 8-4 or even 7-5… while UF only plays 2 teams presently ranked in the top 10 and both of those teams in Florida… hugh advantage to UF.I think they go undefeated …anyway, I think UF and Alabama may be unbeaten and will play in the SEC championship game in Atlanta … but, back to the question, whether it will be any of the teams you mentioned… both teams from the SEC and Big 12 will have played 13 games,compared to 12 games played by USC and their strength of schedules being so low … I agree they get left out!
By DirtyDawg
September 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
If the past two years hasn’t impressed the voters that the SEC Champion is likely to be the most powerful team in the country, then they clearly are suffering from cognitive dissonance. Regardless who the ultimate SEC winner is, they should be in that damn game…whether it’s USC or Oklahoma, any of the top two, or three, or four teams from the SEC would play ‘em to a standstill, and likely win.
Can you honestly say that if either USC or OK were to play an SEC schedule that they would go undefeated? I thought not.
By DawginLex
September 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
SC rules,
You beat a bad auburn team in 2003 23-0. congrats. UGA beat that same team 31-7. You brag about coming over here and beating SEC schools. I haven’t seen the trojans in Sanford Stadium or in the Swamp. We just whipped the powerful #2 team from you overrated conference. They would finish EIGHTH in the SEC.
Rematch with Texas ? Colt McCoy still play QB for the horns ? Game over. OK 42 Texas 24.
Keep dreaming tofu boy. Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.
By dawgfacedboy
September 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Unfortunately an SEC team will not go undeafeated (nearly impossible). Therefore, regardless of how laughable USC’s schedule is they will play in the title game against the possible undefeated Big 12 champ. What is the most ridiculous part of all of this is how much attention USC gets. Yeah, they beat the crap out of everybody but they only play one top 25 team!!!!!! It’s ridiculous.
By ME!!!!!!
September 24, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
The HEAVEN sent sec played a weak PAC10 team!! What happened??? You guessed it PAC10 1, sec 0… sec get your head out of your A$$.. Tenn was the only school with nads to play a team that’s not 1AA. Go figure, step in to the BIG12….
By The Ole Ball Coach
September 24, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Winning the SEC championship is IMO winning the MNC…… College Football needs a playoff system…. Until a real system is in place it will always be Biased… I think The OSU, The USC, and Oklahoma is happy as it is….because they don’t want to face a top tier SEC team.
By bankerdawg
September 24, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
As poor as the Pac 10 looks this year, I still believe USC will drop a game along the way. The more likely scenario would be for all three teams to be a one loss team, and at that point, who knows where each will be in the BCS.
OU and UGA have the advantage of playing the Conference title game and making a late push to jump the team ahead of them. USC must run the table to get into the BCSCG, otherwise, there are no other impressive victories they could post by season’s end.
I would rather UGA play USC for the title, if for no other reason than to shut them up (at least until next year), but clearly, if we are fortunate enough to get to that game, I don’t care who it is.
It will all play out, and I’ll enjoy every minute of it…I love college football.
Go Dawgs!
By SEC Dominates
September 24, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
The Pac 1 is the weakest major confrence right behind the Big 10. USC gets left out. GO DAWGS.
By murfdawg
September 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Tony, Can you use your powerful influence and get the bowl games scheduled like this:
Sugar Bowl-SEC champ vs Big 12 champ for the national championship Cotton Bowl-SEC runner up vs Big 12 runner up
Chick-fil-a Bowl-#2 in sec east vs #2 in Big 12 north
Fiesta bowl—#2 in sec west vs #2 in Big 12 south
Rose Bowl—So Cal vs Big 10(11)
At the end of the Bowl season you would a true national champ and a good idea of the top ten teams. Hope you can get this worked out with the NCAA.
By Momandan
September 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
You’re right, it’s too early to discuss this. Get a life!!
By Alabama Jack
September 24, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Here is a destination for UGA - To Hell With georgia.
By b-money
September 24, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Question - doesn’t excluding 1-AA teams skew this argument a bit? UGA will play 11 BCS schools including SEC championship game in 13 games. USC plays 12 BCS schools in 12 games. (A full round-robin schedule in the PAC 10) What would the collective rankings be if you include all games and not cherry pick?
By Randy
September 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
I think Florida has a better chance of going undefeated than Georgia because of Georgia’s schedule. When that happens who gets left out?
USC plays such a wimpy schedule they should be in the Division !! Football.
Georgia’s National Championship will come next year due to their softer schedule unless of course Stafford and Moreno move on to the NFL. In that case Florida will once again be the beast of the east!
By George
September 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Don’t sleep on Penn State. They could get into the mix with an undefeated season. The media would LOVE to send JoPa out with another championship.
By duh
September 24, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
I love it! Tech beats the worst team in the history of the SEC and now all of the sudden the SEC is overrated. LOL. There are some stupid people in this town.
By Chris
September 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Barnhart - this is the only logical thing you said in your article. “Now I understand that the rankings will look nothing like this on Dec. 6.”
This whole discussion is silly and pointless. Fact is, its highly probable the two best teams won’t be in the BCS Championship game. With today’s current system, there is absolutely no way to know who the two best teams in the country are? SEC fans can scream and whine about there conference being the best and so can Big XII fans. And USC can shout all day they are the best. But until we get a playoff system in place, eliminate the writers and coaches polls (which are a complete joke) and punish FCS schools for stacking their schedule with cupcake games and unbalanced home/away schedules, you can’t possibly know who the best teams in the country are?
By shane #1
September 24, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Man, I don’t blame Tony for leaving the AJC. What a bunch of dumb asses! You trash talkers cannot understand his blogs. He took the top three teams in the coache’s poll and said “what if” they all went undefeated? That is a hypothetical question. Tony does not vote in the coaches poll, so he didn’t make UGA #3. If You don’t like the rankngs then drop a line to all the coaches that voted, that should keep You busy for a while. IMO, it would be an injustice to keep any undefeated team that played in a strong BCS conference out of the MNCG. USC is a great team, it is not their fault that the rest of their conference sucks. If they win the Pac Ten they should have a shot at the title. UGA and OU should have a shot if they win their conferences too. So should the Big eleven champion. In short, it is long past time that We have a true NCAA football champion. I think there will be several teams that are undefeated or have one loss and that We will have another beauty contest to determine another mythical “champion”. I am a UGA fan, and I hope they go into Miami and win, but I will not delude Myself into thinkig the system is just merely because the Dawgs get a crystal football.
By godawgs!
September 24, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
To Nachos: once a tech turd, always a tech turd
By MiamiDawg
September 24, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
This is all nice and good, but there is a little game in Jax that must be played for any of it to be worth anything at all.
One game at a time, little dawggies.
By steve
September 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
LSU will beat UGA in Baton Rouge end of story.
By steve
September 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
LSU will beat UGA in Baton Rouge end of story.
By Snoop
September 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
That is the stupidest article ever written.
By The Mighty Trojans
September 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Look I am sure after stomping Auburn and Arkansas in during this decade no one in the SEC wants to play us.
We try buy LSU,Alabama and Georgia just run from us.
We will see you in the NC game and then we will pound the SEC unlike chicken/badly coached Ohio State and Oklahoma!
By dave
September 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Tony, here’s a good solution for making a level playing field … since, the Big 12, the SEC and the ACC have a conference championship and play 13 games and the big 10 and pac 10 only play 12 games … why not move the Rose Bowl up to the first week in Dec …and have the pac 10 winner play the big 10 winner giving both conference winners a tough 13th game… like the other conferences… then rank the top two the teams. That way the Rose Bowl people should be very happy, they get to keep traditional game, between the Pac 10 and Big 10 and still have a BCS Rose Bowl.
By Dawgs are Delusional
September 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Don’t worry leg humpers, this will not be an dilemma you will have to stress over for very long. There’s no way Georgia gets through Bama, LSU, and Florida without losing at least one game. Chances are that they will only go 1-2 through that stretch. Of course, after that they will go forth and receive their annual beating from Vandy anyhow.
LSU and Florida are the class of the conference. Bama will be there next year. Georgia has always been overrated and it’s never been more evident than this year. I can’t wait for the day all you WalMart puppies are all crying in the streets about how you got beat.
By Davis
September 24, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
I hope UGA goes undefeated and gets left out. After all we have been needing a drought buster for years and with all those tears Lake Lanier would be overflowing its banks. The AJC last year said that UGA getting left out with two losses was worse than Auburn in 04 when they went undefeated. If that did not sum up the stupidity of the dawg nation I dont know what does. I can only begin to imagine the comparisons the ajc would begin to make if UGA would go unbeaten and got left out. It wont happen but god I would love for it to.
By Rick
September 24, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
Those LSU Tigers will sure beat the hell out out of us Dawgs in Death Valley this year. Then if we’re lucky enough to beat Florida, we’ll lose again to that ‘Damn Strong’ football team from Baton Rouge in the SEC Championship game…and right here in our own back yard too. There ya go Bubba.
By Lou
September 24, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Why is Georgia even being discussed here? a) they’ll lost at least 2 games this year and b) they’re simply not the best in the SEC. LSU and Florida are still the teams to beat here.
By Eric
September 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Bottom line is UGA will lose three times this year: Alabama, Flordia, and whatever team they play in the SEC championship game. So you should not even be wondering if they will be in the big game because the only big game they will be in is the SEC championship which they will lose to whoever is in the game with them.
By Vince Dooley
September 24, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
SEC defenses are impossible to play against. Just too good. Don’t know how Tebow won teh Heisman competing against those guys.
Just too good.
My good friend Tubbyville from my alma mater is right, SEC defenses just too good.
Rest of country should just surrender now rather than face th ewrath of the almighty SEC.
By Vince Dooley
September 24, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
SEC defenses are impossible to play against. Just too good. Don’t know how Tebow won teh Heisman competing against those guys.
Just too good.
My good friend Tubbyville from my alma mater is right, SEC defenses just too good.
Rest of country should just surrender now rather than face th ewrath of the almighty SEC.
By bama12 titles
September 24, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
The wildcard that a couple people have noticed here is Penn St. They are steamrolling people and let’s face it. If they go unbeaten which is quite possible in a very weak big 10 and an SEC or Big 12 team finishes with 1 loss then Penn St gets in. Their road is far easier than UGA going unbeaten in the SEC with such a brutal schedule.
If USC goes unbeaten or if they have one loss just like an eventual SEC champion like FLA. or Big 12 champ like OU then USC is in no matter what. Too many voters still have USC in their mind as a superteam and too many voters like Mark May vividly remember USC’s beatdowns of sec Auburn and Arkansas in the last 4-5 years.
I mentioned Fla. as the SEC champ over UGA simply because FLA. has so much more of a favorable schedule than UGA. UGA is a great football team but their schedule is so brutal(especially the road part) that I think they lose at least 2. Fla’s schedule conversely sets up very nicely, especially their home schedule.
I will say that if the future SEC champ finishes unbeaten along with 2 or 3 other teams or finishes with 1 loss along with 1 or 2 other teams like OU or Penn St. than its an absolute given that the SEC champ gets into the title game.
The last 2 years have firmly established a precedent. That precedent is that an SEC champ with the same unbeaten record or same # of losses as a big 10 or big 12 team automatically gets the nod due to strength of conference/schedule. I think its still fresh in voter’s minds that Auburn in 2004 would have given USC a much better game than OU did (55-19 loss). Its also a given that currently the SEC is the lone conference superpower and that after the last 2 SEC beatdowns of the big 10 champ OSU that the SEC champ gets the benefit of the doubt with all things being equal.
I say this allthough I’m certain some ACC fan will disagree about the SEC’s strenthg. What do you say when the best team in your conference is Wake Forest?
What do you guys think? Agree or not?
By Useless Speculation
September 24, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
With the season less than half over, all of this is useless speculation.
There must not be much else to talk about.
By BR
September 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
“Jackets”—The stands were empty in the first, second, third, AND fourth quarter, moron. Why? You nerds are fair weather and never support your team.
By Ken Thompson
September 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Guess Tommy was talking about that great MSU defense GT put a beat down on. Auburn has a truly lousy offense
By MARK
September 24, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
When are all of you in the South are going to realzie, SO the SEC is the strongest Conference and you are last in Academics and Culture. I am so sick of every college football conversation starts and ends “With the SEC is the strongest and if they played in the SEC the would be this and that. When are you going to realize that you could have 9 teams ranked in the top 10, still doesn’t change the fact that there is USC and there is everyone else, you have the strongest conf, but not the best Team, and yes USC would go undeafeated in vastly overated SEC no question. The will blow out the SEC champ in the NC game
By root4au
September 24, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Wonder how close the Jackets would play LSU? Can’t compare game to game common opponents.
By tjs
September 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
USC has tried to schedule a home and away games with SEC teams since Pete Carroll arrived there. So far no takers…Seems GA Southern, Middle Tenn,etc., 1AA teams from the south will suffice on all SEC schedules. The formula quoted above only applies to now, many of those top 10 SEC teams will fall as they lose…How can you not count the 1AA teams? You schedule them to be “slaughter bait” for 200-400 k, and this is suppossed to increase your credibilty? I would think if the SEC is really feeling under appreciated, that all the atheletic directors would make attempts to schedule at least two BCS conference schools per season…Miss St did that, and it didn’t display the vaunted SEC superiority…I think you guys are living in a fools paradise.
By Milo H.
September 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Just as it’s no lock that UGA will win the SEC, it’s also not clear that OU will beat Missouri or Texas for the Big XII crown. Unfortunately (for non-USC fans), the Trojans are a near lock to go undefeated based on their wuss schedule. My prediction: USC v. Missouri.
By KnowshonHauls
September 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
I’m pretty sure the SEC would get hosed once again. If anything, Flordia has the best chance to go, since their schedule is relatively easier (dropped Auburn). They play LSU in the swamp, and they pretty much always beat us (UGA), so I’m not personally going to hang my hat on winning that game. We, on the other-hand, have to go to LSU (we all know how we did last time we went there) and go to JAX (we like to choke there, too — even when Zook was there). I hate to be a pessimist here, but it’s not realistic to think we would actually go to a title game.
By BIGGUY
September 24, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
A solution to the SEC points scored being customarily so low would be to require all teams to each have four kickoffs returned for touchdowns at the start of every SEC matchup. This would make the score 28-28 (theoretically) before offense meets defense, and give fans the necessary time to get to their seats.
By goober
September 24, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Until the University of Southern Condom Trojans is forced to play in a conference championship game like all the other leagues and top teams, they should be barred from participating in the BCS series.
By the way, all you bloggers criticizing other bloggers is like two souls in hell, arguing over who is the less sinful for being there.
By Erik
September 24, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
I love the way all these GT fans are going crazy over beating the SEC’s “best defense”. Give me an f-ing break. Miss State would be mediocre in the Sun Belt.
Congrats to your solid start. Paul Johnson has it headed in the right direction. But to call the SEC overrated because you beat Miss State, that’s just insane.
By KnowshonHauls
September 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
USC is definitely the best team in the nation, and would probably beat the best SEC team by a large margin in the NC. Perhaps it’s also true that they would roll over everyone this year in the SEC (although I doubt it. Florida found their defense, and umm, well remember TEBOW?). However, if they played in the SEC year in and year out, they would OBVIOUSLY get beaten at some point. They lost to Stanford last year for crying out loud. STANFORD. A team that loses to a crappy PAC-10 team like that does not go undefeated in the SEC. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that.
By World's Biggest Jawja Fan
September 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
KnowshonHauls is right. We are overrated and annually choke at the cocktail party, and usually at least one other game during the year as well. Being a Bulldog fan it pains me to write this. Some programs are cut out for playing at the top level, we’re not. Nevertheless, I shall always cherish that 2008 preseason #1 ranking. Go you hairy fellows!
By TXDawg
September 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
In regards to that idiotic comment by Spanky…..USC’s whole schedule is littered with 1-AA opponents. I can think of 2 or 3 FCS teams that will lay wood to several of the teams on USC’s schedule. So don’t give me that crap about GA, Oklahoma, or Penn State playing against and FCS opponent. I presume that if you add in GA’s FCS opponents’ SOS to the equation, GA’s SOS would still be better than USC.
Spank on that!
By Bubba
September 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Mark,
With USC’s “culture”, they would certainly blow every SEC team if they were allowed the opportunity.
I hear that Johnson is really big at Georgia Tech also. You might want to stop by their campus while you’re on your Southern tour.
By Warigami
September 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Don’t worry, Dawg fans, you guys won’t make it that far anyway. Florida’s going to beat you like a drum…
By macfute
September 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
It is still too early to tell about which teams in the SEC are strong. It seems that Bama’s victory over Clemson was not an upset. As for UGA having 2 losses that could be well happen if Stafford or Moreno were to get hurt. There is also the matter of some opponent being stronger than expected—Vanderbilt say—or weaker than expected—Tennessee maybe. After the season is over you can figure out how UCLA beat Tennessee and Maryland beat Cal. In the end it may come down to an an injury or just plain luck. No one other than perhaps Mark Richt has a good idea of how good Bama and UGA are and this weekend’s game may well be the REAL title game.
By Wrecker1
September 24, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
I know everybody wants to say Ugag will lose at least a couple in conference before the season is over but on second look that may not be true. Auburn really isn’t that good, Tenn. is plain bad, LSU hasn’t been overly impressive. That leaves Bama and Florida and if the ACC and Clemson are as bad as some of you SEC homers think, and we all know Arkansas is putrid, then Bama may not really be that good either. Really we shouldn’t even have any polls until the end of September. Ohio State is way over rated and Penn State is probably under rated. Clemson and Bama may have been rated completely backwards but yet Clemson some how moves back up about 7 spots for beating up on 2 AA teams. The early rankings are like being in a caste system - if you’re ranked high, unless you completely bomb out you stay high and if you’re un-ranked or ranked low you beat your head against the wall trying to move up. Georgia beat an ASU team that is ranked 43 now (which might be about right) but if they hadn’t been #15 two weeks ago might they be ranked lower than 43 now. UConn beat UVA about as bad as USC did but did UConn move way up, no, but the pollsters seemed so impressed with the USC victory they moved past Ugag. We should just do away with the polls until after the last Saturday in September and then see where everbody falls.
By Erik
September 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Hey Mark,
You say SC would go undefeated in the SEC? Funny, because SC RARELY goes unbeaten in that joke of a conference you call the PAC 10.
SC looks very strong, granted, but it’s too bad we’ll never know how good they are because they play NOBODY.
And the SEC is last in culture? Hmmm, I guess having practice fields near Compton with fences around them to keep the gangs out means SC is “cultured”. Please. Gangs, fake breasts, and mass insecurity does not equal culture.
By bama12 titles
September 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Hey Mark,
I agree with you that USC is an incredible football team and that they have in fact handled the sec pretty well in 4 games several years ago. Lastly, they probably are the best team out there.
But to say they would go undefeated in the SEC blow out the SEC champ is a little nutty. They are human after all and if they lost 2 conference games last year in a substantially weaker conference than how can you possibly guarantee that they would go unbeaten in the rugged SEC?
Are you actually going to say that a team that lost to Stanford could just roll through the sec and never have to worry about losing a game? We’re talking Stanford which I think finished 3-8 last year and is usually a 1-3 win team each year. Heck, they even lost to 3-9 Notre Dame last year but they did manage to beat the mighty trojans.
Incidentally, Bama is not afraid at all to play you. We used to play in several home and home series against USC and we certainly held our own going 2-2. We then played you in the Sun Bowl and spanked you 28-7 so all I know is that we are 3-2 against your mighty trojans in the last 5 meetings. We would love to play you but we already filled up our future non-conference with other bcs opponents like Penn St and hopefully Va. Tech next year, and hopefully Notre Dame also when they get good again.
By The Mighty Trojans
September 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
UGA fans do not worry as long as you play good defense you can defeat Florida.
Now LSU is a good team, not a great team but very good. Very deep it will be a tough game but you can still win.
UGA you should blow out Alabama stop their running attack and man-up on the receivers the Alabama QB is the weak link!
UGA in the NC game this year!
By GTsince62
September 24, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Bama hands Ugay their a_ _ on Saturday night. The over hyped pups fold again. This of course will be followed by at least 2 more losses. Richie Richt will be on the hot seat in December. ROTFLOL
By MARK
September 24, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Hey Eric, okay culture is dabatle, but there is no doubt that that Academics comparing the PAC 10 standards to SEC is like comparing IVY league to Clayton County Schools.
By steve
September 24, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
AS far as I’m concerned if you win the SEC you’re the CHAMPS of the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO!!!!!!!!!!!DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By T-Bird
September 24, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Why is it that this example of when USC getting left out of the NT game always comes up and no one ever mentions the time when Auburn got left out? Now I am not an Auburn fan, but a UGA fan through and through, but if any team ever goins undefeated in the toughest conference in the nation, then they should go to the Championship Game over any other teams.
By DICK ESKEW
September 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Pee on them dawgs
By UGA_TE
September 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Why is it that this example of when USC getting left out of the NT game always comes up and no one ever mentions the time when Auburn got left out? Now I am not an Auburn fan, but a UGA fan through and through, but if any team ever goins undefeated in the toughest conference in the nation, then they should go to the Championship Game over any other teams. And USC got a share of the title that year when Auburn did not….is that fair?
By future freshman
September 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
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By The Mighty Trojans
September 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
Clemson is weak this year! Alabama has not played a strong team yet!
Penn State has not played a strong team yet!
Florida has not played a strong offensive team yet! The Vols who could not put two feet in front of each other moved the ball up and down the field on the FLorida defense.
This football year is full of crappy teams and crappy play plus crappy coaching!
Look what’s happened to Ohio State, Rutgers,Louisville etc.
The coaching and talent in college football is not good right now!
UGA can win the SEC this year!
By FLA DAWG
September 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
jackets, Hit the rewind button my friend, the upper stands were half empty in the second quarter. Why do you think GT has to advertise to sell their tickets? Because their fan base isn’t large enough. I’d like to see your team get full support - they deserve it.
usc rules(the weakest conference in the country), Let’s see if you get grasp this my left coast friend. The toughest team USC played was an Ohio State Team that was lucky to beat Miami of Ohio. The Dawgs abused Az State, we will play Bama, LSU, UF, Auburn and let’s throw in a very good GT Team and an undefeated Vandy. I don’t know if we will win or lose but the point is we play teams of this caliber EVERY YEAR……………..and your schedule this year?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
By Jissoji
September 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Georgia and Oklahoma will probably play for the national title. Their conference championship wins will seal the deal. USC’s schedule is just too weak, and will look weaker as the season rolls along. By the time UGA and OU are battling top 10 teams for their conference championships, USC will be slugging it out with a laughable UCLA team (a Bruins team that will probably finish the season 3-9).
By JP
September 24, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
As a Gator fan, I was pulling for a USC-UGA Rose Bowl match-up. I think UGA is the class of the SEC and would give USC or Oklahoma a great game. If UGA goes 13-0 aganinst that schedule, how do you leave them out? It would be worse than Auburn in 2004……
By bama12 titles
September 24, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Hey Macfute,
I like your synopsis. I think the Bama-UGA game will be a typical SEC war. If either team wins by 7 or less than it just means both are good SEC teams that can beat or be beaten by any of the other good SEC teams. If UGA can dominate and beat us they way they did Auburn or Fla. last year then I will be sold on the idea that UGA really could run the table in the conference or at least get through with only 1 loss.
The funny thing to me is that I could see someone like UGA winning 4 out of 5 against the likes of Bama, Fla. LSU, Auburn, Tenn. and then losing a letdown game against the likes of Vandy or Kentucky, 2 teams that are a lot better than people think.
Likewise, if my beloved tide could come out of Athens with a win I could easily see us losing the very next week at home to Kentucky. I can see us winning a couple of games we shouldn’t win but also dropping a game or 2 that we should’nt lose like Kentucky, Ole Miss, etc. You cannot take a day off in the sec.
Such is life in the might SEC!
By hold em
September 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles, to answer your question, Auburn would have done worse against USC than OU did
By ChattHills Jacket
September 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
You dawgs had better just worry about BAMA. There will no 13-0 SEC TEAM in the SHIP. There will probably be an 11-2 SEC CHAMP hoping the voters over look the loses because of the SOS.
By Steviejoe
September 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
How could GA get to the BCS championship with 4 losses? (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and GA Tech)
By GEORGE CARTER
September 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
That should read P** ON THEM DOGS.
By Bubba
September 24, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Mickey Mouse Trojans,
Bama’s Quarterback has played under 2 Head Coaches and 3 different Offensive Coordinators during his tenure at the Capstone. In addition to that, this is the first year that he has had a quality Offensive Line to play behind.
In spite of that, he is the most prolific passer in Crimson Tide history. Not Joe Namath… Not Snake Stabler… Not Bart Starr… JP Wilson. Misunderestimate John Parker Wilson at your own peril.
If you guys can get past The Mighty Stanford this year, then maybe you’ll get to see him play up close and personal.
Good luck with that!
By 59bulldawg
September 24, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Tommy T is absolutely correct! An ugly 3-2 or 14-7 game is not understood outside the SEC because many folks don’t realize how competitive this conference can be. On a week to week basis from top to bottom the SEC is by far the best college football conference in the nation. Even its weaker members usually provide an upset somewhere during the season. Personally, although I’m fond of good offense, I love strong defense both at the line and in the defensive backfield. Nothing will ever get me as fired up as when Erk used to motivate his young men by butting his bald head against their helmets to fire them up and then watching them take care of business on the field. He would have adored Rennie Curran!
By bama12 titles
September 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
hey holdem,
I don’t know if USC would have beaten that Auburn team worse than they did OU 55-19. They put it on Auburn the 2 previous years to the tune of 23-0 and 28-14 but neither of those is a 39 pt loss and there was no doubt Auburn in 2004 at 13-0 was a lot better than the 2003 team that went 9-4.
Allthough as an Alabama fan it is nice to dream that someone would whup Auburn by 40 or more points! We sure as hell haven’t been able to beat em by 1 lately.
By SlickWillie
September 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Odd man out? Clay Aiken and the dogs.
By Roll on, Jackets!
September 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
No need to worry, “FLA DAWG”… YES, there are still way too many Tech fans ‘standing on the side of the pool with only their toes in the water.’ But winning will fill the remaining 7 to 8,000 seats that were empty vs. Miss St. Paul Johnson’s program is clearly moving in the right direction.
For the Tech fans that are “concerned” about driving into the big city, there’s a transportation solution; it’s called MARTA. Take the train to the North Avenue stop, and walk your paranoid arses the 2-3 blocks to the stadium. FLA DAWG is right - the players deserve better!
By PTC DAWG
September 24, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
I’ll go even further than this article.
IF ANY SEC team has only 1 loss at years end, they should be an AUTOMATIC entry into the MNC game.
By adawg06
September 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
USC 2-0, UGA 4-0. After this wkend, USC 3-0, UGA 5-0. USC beat a top 10 team, UGA will have beaten a top 10 team. Why are we #3 when not only have we played 2 more games than they have and beaten not only a top 10 team, just as they did, but a top 10 team from what everybody calls the best conference in football? They beat a team from a joke of a conference. Tony, please explain??
By TrojanDude
September 24, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Such short memories.
We’ve heard all this before about how weak the Pac-10 is, and how USC would never beat an SEC or Big-12 or (insert conference here) team in a big game. But other than Texas (a close loss in a great game that we could have won right to the wire), all we’ve done every year since 2003 or so is wail on some team from the aforementioned conferences who were supposed to reveal us for the fraud we really were.
Still waiting for the team that’s going to do that.
Bottom line is, you can look at the ratings all you like and talk about power rating this and schedule that all you like, but the only way you know for sure is when they meet on the field. Short of that, the best way to tell how good a team is, is simply to watch them play, and USC has looked dominant so far, as do a couple of other teams, and started higher on the polls than they did due to past performance, which is why they are #1 currently.
Yep, they occasionally sleepwalked through games with weak teams in past seasons that they didn’t take seriously, and paid for it, but I’m doubtful, based on their focus so far this year, that its going to happen this time. Actually, I think a team like USC would do better in a conference like the SEC, since big games are where they do their best. No sleepwalking when you have that kind of competition. And yes, I’m fully prepared to admit that the Pac-10 is feeble as hell this year, except that doesn’t really factor into whether or not USC is any good or not.
If you are arguing that the fact that one of these teams might get left out even if they run the table means we should have a championship, than I, the USC boosters, and Pete Carroll all agree with you.
If you are arguing that USC couldn’t whoop up on you any time they liked, then come prove it, until then what you have is conjecture, and nothing more, and we’ve seen how that ended for lots of teams who faced USC in BCS bowls.
By hold em
September 24, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles, i was on the sideline for the 2004 NC, the reason OU lost so badly was due to mistakes, 2004 USC was by far the best college football team in years, they were like lightning bolts running down the field, they would have demolished Auburn
By Eric the Bedhumper
September 24, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
UGAy will lose 3 games this year: Alabama, Florida, & Tech. Go ahead and reserve your Peach Bowl tickets dawgs fans!
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
With that logic
LMFAO
First beat OSU. Than maybe we’ll let you “just take USC out”.
Penn State won’t even win the Big 10 (11).
USC would score 50 on you and win by 30+.
By bama 12 titles
September 24, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
PTC Dawg,
I would agree with you that a 12-1 UGA, FLA. or LSU team would certainly be a better team than a 12-0 Penn state if they should run the table in a weak big 10 or a 13-0 OU but I just don’t see the pollsters voting it that way. Too much bias in favor of the big 10 and quite frankly I think the rest of the country is probably a little tired of seeing the SEC dominate like we have been. Of course if a 12-1 OU team got taken over say a 12-1 UGA team than you would be justified to raise hell about it.
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Heyberto
I see you jumped right from 3 unbeaten team to a SEC team with one lose.
WIN the F*ing games first HOMER.
By wake up Dawgs
September 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Thanks Tony, this is what I’ve been preaching all year to fellow Dawg fans. Not winning impressively can and very well might hurt us in the long run. Everyone who is a Dawg fan who is reading this right now, please do not repeat the following sentence anymore: As long as we keep winning, everything will work out just fine for a shoat at a NC. This statement IS NOT TRUE. Let’s win and win big and leave no doubt in any voters mind how good we are. GO Dawgs, Saban’s a chump.
By C from Marietta
September 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Will it really matter in a hundread years? We will all be dead anyway.
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
FLA DAWG
“Tell us, how many SEC Teams does USC have scheduled during their regular season this year?”
None, this year.
USC schedules Virginia who was 9-4 last year and played in the Gator Bowl, and OSU who was 11-2 last year and played for the NC.
Who did UGA open against?
Since Carroll came:
USC is 3-0 against the SEC . They beat than #6 ranked Auburn, and Arkansas 2 time. In 2006 Arkansas went on to win 10 games after USC beat them.
USC has six BCS bowl appearances. No one has more, although Oklahoma also has six (the Trojans are 5-1 in their games; the Sooners are 2-4).
USC has two national titles. No one has more, although LSU also has two.
USC has six conference championships. No one has more.
USC has three national title game appearances. No one has more, although Ohio State and Oklahoma also have three (the Trojans are 2-1 in title games, while the Buckeyes and Sooners are both 1-2).
If UGA wins out, I absolutly agree they should play for a NC.
And If USC wins out, that should be the game, USC vs UGA
By John Weir
September 24, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
UGA will have at least one loss after 1 November, 2008. So they don’t have to worry about being left out. GO GATORS!
By chris
September 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
who cares… this should be a topic that should be brought up after the BCS standings come out… its to early to worry about this right now.
By T-Niggs
September 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
If USC, Oklahoma and one SEC team end the season all undefeated, Oklahoma should be left out. Let’s look at the track records. SEC teams have fared pretty well recently in big bowl games. USC’s only BCS loss came against Vince Young, other than that one Rose Bowl USC has dominated every one of their BCS Bowl games.
OU, on the other hand, is similar to Ohio State in BCS Bowl games. Embarrassed by West Virginia, upset by Boise State, stomped 55-19 by USC. Let’s not forget that USC and the SEC have each already been royally screwed by the BCS. If it happens again this year, Oklahoma should be the odd man out.
By J-Lo Effect
September 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Opps! Hit the wrong button
as I was saying … For the ‘experts’ to assume BYU, Utah, or Boise St. would lose to a 1 or 2 loss opponent from one of the BCS conferences, and not give them their shot to prove it is simply wrong. What does a coach from one of these schools tell his current players or future players … it doesn’t matter if we go undefeated, unless all the BCS conferences’ best team has 3 or more losses then tough nookies???
By T-Niggs
September 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
If USC, Oklahoma and one SEC team end the season all undefeated, Oklahoma should be left out. Let’s look at the track records. SEC teams have fared pretty well recently in big bowl games. USC’s only BCS loss came against Vince Young, other than that one Rose Bowl USC has dominated every one of their BCS Bowl games.
OU, on the other hand, is similar to Ohio State in BCS Bowl games. Embarrassed by West Virginia, upset by Boise State, stomped 55-19 by USC. Let’s not forget that USC and the SEC have each already been royally screwed by the BCS. If it happens again this year, Oklahoma should be the odd man out.
By GTG
September 24, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
What if they had a playoff? 12 team, 9 major Champs and 3 at large? May the best team win?
By bama 12 titles
September 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
Hold em,
Being on the sidelines doesn’t give you any better perspective than anyone watching on television. It just means you were there.
I do agree with you that USC in 2004 was a truly great team. But I just have a hard time seeing them whip a 13-0 Auburn team by 40 or more points. I think they would have certainly won but 40 points? Come on! If you look at USC’s season that year they had several close games against teams that certainly didn’t go 13-0. And I would be willing to bet they probably didn’t even beat half their opponents by 40 or more. I do remember they only beat Fresno beat 12 or 14. You think a 9-4 Fresno team would have done better than a 13-0 Auburn team? I think you just got carried away a little bit with the hype no offense. People said the same thing the next year when the 05 USC team also regarded by many as one of the all time greatest teams ever got beat by Texas. Still a great program but I think sometimes people just get carried away. I remember one homer in 2005 saying USC was a pro team and could beat half the NFL. He wasn’t saying much after the Texas game.
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
By TXDawg
September 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
“In regards to that idiotic comment by Spanky…..USC’s whole schedule is littered with 1-AA opponents.”
If your being sarcastic, ok; if the facts don’t support your view, use sarcasm.
If you are being serious, your seriously WRONG.
USC is one of the FEW remaining Div 1A teams that has NEVER scheduled a Div 1AA opponent.
By hold em
September 24, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles, i truly don’t care either way if OU or Auburn went to the NC that year, SEC fans beat that situation to death, and i was simply stating my opinion in the matter.
By bama 12 titles
September 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Hold em,
I respect your opinion and personally I get tired of hearing about it from SEC and or Auburn fans also. In any event we both agree USC would have won handily, we just disagree on the margin of victory. Anyway, doesn’t really matter. USC got the title which they fully deserved and we’ll never know if Auburn could have played a better game than OU so aint no point wasting any more time on shoulda, coulda, woulda. Signing off.
By JB
September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
You would think by listening to ESPN and others that the DAWGS just out to give it up, go home, be happy with 8-4. BULL. Who ever plays us EVERY week better eat their Wheaties and bring their A game. Yes, we can be beat, and if you do, we’ll tip our hat, but bring it on. We’ve got a pretty good team and some pretty good coach’s.
By bamabear
September 24, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
UGA won’t go undefeated…..
By hold em
September 24, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
got a little off topic there but the BCS has really messed everything up, and has for years. This article should have been posted after this weekend, have a feeling BAMA is going to beat up on the Dawgs, and they will be the ones left out at the end of the year come national championship time
By Rick
September 24, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Does anybody know which team ( only team ) has won 2 BCS National Championships?
Oh yeah, it’s LSU…the only team with two ‘big’ balls.
No Show Moreno and T-Blow can only dream.
By ChattHills Jacket
September 24, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
No SEC team will go 12-1 or 13-0 because all teams have weeknesses and the other coaches will work hard to exploit them, that being said an 11-2 or 10-3 SEC CHAMP is hard to passover against any other team in Div.1 ball.
By dogs, champs in their own mind
September 24, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Ain’t that right BuLL!
By BravesFan79
September 24, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Bubba: John Parker wilson…. Best AL QB EVER!??
WTF… lay down the crack pipe dude…
I was a fan of AL growing up in the 90’s, and the 92 QB would WIPE THE FLOOR with wannabe Hollywood Wilson!
Sorry but i lost all respect for AL when they came out AGAINST a playoff system. I cant wait for them to get screwed over like Auburn and Boise State did!!
Go GT and UGA!!
09 will be a BIG year for GT Football and Hoops!!
By DP
September 24, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Tony, are you kidding with this column? It’s still September and Georgia is playing Alabama this weekend and you’re actually writing about what happens if Georgia and 2 other teams go undefeated?
Are you too busy or too lazy to talk to some people in Athens and Tuscaloosa and write something relevant to Saturday’s game?
This is the kind of irrelevant conjecture column that Terence Moore and Mark Bradley substitute for reporting. I thought you were better than this.
By Tom
September 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
I’m concerned that the voters east of the Mississippi don’t understand how good the offenses are in the Pac10 and equate hig-scoring football to bad football. Am I right?
The “good offense/bad defense - bad offense/good defense” argument is completely ridiculous and unprovable.
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Rick
Yes LSU has 2 BSC “balls”. But don’t forget they had to share the NC in 2003.
And to the Bama fans, your History speaks volumes, you should be proud of it.
But I will refresh all yor memories; about the team with both a storied past, and present…..USC……FIGHT ON
USC TROJAN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS:….
2004 National Champion - BCS National Champship ………………………….
2003 National Champion - (Split decision -LSU finishes atop the coaches’ poll; USC is No. 1 in the Associated Press poll)….
1978 National Champion - Selected by: United Press International…………….
1974 National Champion - Selected by: United Press International, Football Writers Assn. of America, National Football Foundation & Hall of Fame
1972 National Champion - Selected by: Associated Press, United Press International, Football Writers Assn. of America, National Football Foundation & Hall of Fame
1967 National Champion - Selected by: Associated Press, United Press International, Football Writers Assn. of America, National Football Foundation & Hall of Fame………………………..
1962 National Champion - Selected by: Associated Press, United Press International, Football Writers Assn. of America, National Football Foundation & Hall of Fame………………………..
1932 National Champion - Selected by: College Football Researchers Assn., National Champion Foundation, Helms Athletic Foundation………………….
1931 National Champion - Selected by: Dickenson Mathematical System, College Football Researchers Assn., National Champion Foundation, Helms Athletic Foundation………………………….
1929 National Champion - Selected by: Dickenson Mathematical System………..
1928 National Champion - Selected by: Dickenson Mathematical System……….
USC’s record against AP Top 10 opponents past 6 seasons under Pete Carroll………………………….
Season Opponent Result Game..
2007 #7 Arizona State W 44-24..
2007 #5 Oregon L 17-24..
2006 #3 Michigan W 32-18 Rose Bowl..
2006 #6 Notre Dame W 44-24…
2005 #2 Texas L 38-41 Rose Bowl#..
2005 #9 Notre Dame W 34-31..
2004 #2 Oklahoma W 55-19 Orange Bowl#..
2004 #7 California W 23-17…
2003 #4 Michigan W 28-14 Rose Bowl…
2003 #6 Washington State W 43-16…
2003 #6 Auburn W 23-0…………….
2002 #3 Iowa W 38-17 Orange Bowl..
2002 #7 Notre Dame W 44-13……
National Championship GamesCurrent Streaks………………….
Pac-10 Conference Championships: 6……
BCS Appearances 6 FBS (I-A) record..
≥11 win seasons 6 FBS (I-A) record.
Season Record:……………………
2002 11-2 .846 T1st Pac 10 Beat Iowa 38-17 in the Orange Bowl………….
2003 12-1 .923 1st Pac 10 Beat Michigan 28-14 in the Rose Bowl#……….
2004 13-0 1.000 1st Pac 10 Beat Oklahoma 55-19 in the Orange Bowl##…….
2005 12-1 .923 1st Pac 10 Lost to Texas 38-41 in the Rose Bowl###……..
2006 11-2 .846 T1st Pac 10 Beat Michigan 32-18 in the Rose Bowl………..
2007 11-2 .846 T1st Pac 10 Beat Illinois 49-17 in the Rose Bowl………..
AP National Champion (Split with LSU)… ##National Champion National Championship(Lost to Texas 41-38)……………………………….By AGTFan
September 24, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Maybe the third place finisher in the beauty pagent that pretends to be a National Championship can get the Miss Congenality Award.
By Steve
September 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
This is indeed a thought worth considering, especially in light of the powers that be continually rejecting the obvious solution of a playoff in Div. I-A. Just to throw another possible team in the mix; don’t forget about Penn State this season. Granted, their early competition isn’t much; but they’re winning big, and the name and reputation in the NCAA is worth something…right or wrong. In the end, though; I sure hope UGA can pull it out and bring home another National Championship. Win one for Munson, guys!
By Hey PACWIN
September 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Hey PACWIN…you forgot to include in your USC “storied history” the following seasons:
1991 (3-8-0) 1992 (6-5-1) 1993 (8-5-0) 1994 (8-3-1) 1995 (9-2-1) hey, banner year 1996 (6-6-0) short-lived 1997 (6-5-0) 1998 (8-5-0) 1999 (6-6-0) 2000 (5-7-0) 2001 (6-6-0)
Enjoy the success in the Crap-10 while you can.
By Bubba
September 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
BravesFan79,
Jay Barker was a great Quarterback. I never said that he wasn’t. But he didn’t have to play under the p** conditions that JP Wilson has had for the past two years. Having a great team around you makes any QB look better.
Alabama’s scholarship losses under NCAA sanctions has left them weak on the O&D lines and JP has been heckled for Offensive problems that weren’t really his fault.
I wasn’t just giving my opinion on Wilson. In the past couple of games he has been breaking all-time school records for passing yardage, touchdowns thrown and total offense. Look it up.
Bama has been running the ball very effectively so far this year and they haven’t had to pass it as much as they might have. They didn’t run many offensive plays against Arkansas because so many plays resulted in long touchdowns.
Bama has played three Quarterbacks this year because they have had large leads and opportunities to clear the bench and get young players some game experience.
John Parker Wilson has only thrown one interception in four games — and that one was a tipped ball.
I don’t have any reason to pad JP Wilson’s record, but he is a good Quarterback. It would suit me just fine to have our opponents think otherwise.
As a matter of fact, Georgia is welcome to practice this week as if JP Wilson doesn’t present any passing threat. Go ahead… do that.
BTW: I don’t know what gave you the idea that Alabama opposes a BCS playoff system. That’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard — even on a football blog!
By Geaux Tigers!!!
September 24, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Whether it is high school, college for professional football games are determined by who controls the line of scrimmage. The team with the best DL and OL is LSU. Their only weakness is at QB. If LSU doesn’t make it to the NT I’ll be suprised.
By TrueCrimson
September 24, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
LSU is good. It’s hard to say how good yet. Bama’s OL & DL are much improved over last year. Maybe you will be surprised!
By T'ville Dawg
September 24, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this
The DAWGS are capable of beating anybody, anywhere, anytime. Please note I said capable, not guaranteed. Success has been had against every team in the league and I don’t mean backing up 10 years to find this success.
It is improbable that the DAWGS will “run the table” this year but it is possible, as well as with Alabama, FLA, and LSU. So let’s stop the childish posts about how we are going to overrun you and that the DAWGS can’t win the big game.
CMR has elevated the program to respect on the national level, and every coach and team knows that they have a game on hand when they play the DAWGS. The DAWGS’ recent road record is indeed impressive, and its fun to know that we can go on the road and beat anybody.
Please note that the DAWGS were carrying the SEC banner prety strong at Arizona State. And please spare me the notion that the Sun Devils must not have much of a program since the DAWGS handled them.
Gatore fans, face it. As good as you were and continue to be, a number of league nenbers have caught up with you. As Alabama fans are shedding the shadow of Bear Bryant, perhaps its time you guys get out of the past and realize Spurrier is gone. As much as I loved watching Herschel run, that was almost 30 years ago. This is today.
Go DAWGS.
By SC Rules!!!
September 24, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
DawginLex, Seems you can’t seem to tell the difference between the stench that is your foul breath after your diatribe against my bloved Trojans and the funk from the dogs butt you just got done buggerin’! Quit spewin’on the neighbors dog and your sisters back! Both are complaining about it! USC Trojans are the BEST team in the country hands down!!!
shane#1, thanks for the props! Fight on big dawg!
By Big Dawg
September 24, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
hold em
Bama12titles, to answer your question, Auburn would have done worse against USC than OU did
Since the game never took place this is just your opinion. I believe Auburn would have given USC all they would have wanted. Auburn played a much tougher schedule overall to USC which in a close game would have greatly benefitted them. Having said this it is only my opinion but is based on having seen both Auburn and USC play at least 8 of their ballgames.
Now as for this article- once again it is only my opinion but if USC, GA and OK go undefeated then I think Oklahoma will get left out because of Oklahoma’s recent bowl history of getting blown out 4 of the last 5 years by teams they were supposed to beat handily or at least be a very close game.
Oh and another thing to all the USC fans on this blog IMHO USC would be able to compete in the SEC but they would lose at least one game or more each year.
Go Dawgs “EARN IT”
By TrueCrimson
September 24, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
I think that it’s only a silly thought experiment to speculate about any particular 3 teams being undefeated at the end of the season. But there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s only a blog… right?
Big Dawg, I understand your logic behind excluding Oklahoma in this scenario based on their recent post-season performance. I suspect that many would have the same sentiment toward Ohio State if they were 1 of the speculative 3.
That said, I don’t believe that this decision would be left up to a committee. The BCS has their rules for making the selections. The computer data can’t be massaged — only the human polls could make this decision by dropping Oklahoma’s ranking. That could happen… I suppose. But that’s the only way that it could happen.
By td
September 24, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
You can thank Les Miles and LSU last year to give the SEC a leg up on a mix of three or four teams tied at the top. They proved the SEC is the top Conference in the land and the first to have two losses in the BCS Title Game and tear up the #1 ranked team.
If there is an SEC tied with the top mix, the SEC Team has to go. USC with it’s pansey schedule will cruise on as #1. Oklahoma will loose one or two games. The SEC Champ may well have two losses but put them in the Title Game. The winner of the SEC Title has the best shot at USC. And UGA, don’t go crying that you should be there if you don’t win the SEC Title!
By GA
September 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
USC will lose to STANFORD again. OKLAHOMA will lose to COLORADO again GEORGIA WILL BE UNDEFEATED
By charlie weis
September 24, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
BAMA AIN’T MAN ENOUGH TO BEAT GEORGIA —
By Go Jackets #1
September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
AUtiger, So what you are saying is that because Mississippi State had four turnovers the score should have been GT - 10; MSU - 7??? Either way Georgia Tech would have won the game. I have a feeling you are still upset because of those two back to back beatdowns Georgia Tech put on your Tigers!!!!! That’s okay, you won’t know what hit you when the Georgia Bulldogs roll into your stadium and smack your Tigers in the mouth. Early prediction…..UGA - 31; AU - 10
By bulldog34
September 24, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
Everyone must have forgotten that USC lost to the mighty Cardinals last year!!! Scores of individual games are meaningless. Check out OSU National Championnship season of 2002. Win all your games and let the chips fall where they may.UGA has no worries if they don’t lose.
By Sly & the family stone
September 24, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this
bama ain’t man enough period.
By Sly & the family stone
September 24, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
Georgia 38—- Alabama 6
By Jimmy
September 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
Ok, I agree w/ most on this blog, even a 1 or 2 loss SEC champ should be considered over USC or OU or whoever else. SEC is the toughest conf.
I do have to disagree w/ the poster who compared USC to Hawaii earlier. How many NFL 1st Rd picks has Hawaii produced over the past few years? While SC’s SOS can’t compare to the SEC champ’s, they are still a formidable team, as would be the Big12 Champ. Gotta love college foozball(despite it’s crappy way they determine a champ)!!!
By COVER TWO
September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
It hasn’t been that long ago, probably mid 80’s, when tech actually took seats out of the stadium so they could fill it up! I’m not a Tech graduate but wouldn’t that qualify as reverse ENGINEERING?
By Barack from Bamma
September 24, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
Dawg and Tide play to a close one. I think Dawgs have the edge at their house, 10-7 Georgia. Furthermore, there ain’t a swinging D!CK of a team in the country that can beat Southern California. They are Men playing among Boyz. I don’t necessarily like it, but it is what it is! The ONLY way they get beat is to overlook someone..They are too well coached to let that happen.
By War Eagle
September 24, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this
Its early to decide who will be at the BCS NC game. If played today, no doubt it would be USC and Oklahoma, which would be another mistake as in 2004. Today realistic, UGA and Florida, probably best teams in country schedule wise…There are three other SEC teams who could play with best….LSU, Auburn and Bama.The SEC will have no undefeated teams, whereas, Big 12 and Pac 10 will have free ride on conference weakness,
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
“By Jimmy
September 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
Ok, I agree w/ most on this blog, even a 1 or 2 loss SEC champ should be considered over USC or OU or whoever else. SEC is the toughest conf.”
OK if your serious, you must be on F#@&ING crack. * USC* is 5-1 in BCS Bowls (best in the NCAA) and has 2 NC (this decade UGA fans; who haven’t brought a title home since betamax; sh@t none of your players were alive the last time UGA won a NC) and you think a 2 loss team from the SEC deserves a title shot over USC.
If you want a tile, WIN THE F-ING GAMES
If you want a title BEAT THE TROJANS
By PACWIN
September 24, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this
By War Eagle
“If played today, no doubt it would be USC and Oklahoma, which would be another mistake as in 2004”
What mistake? #1 vs #2. Maybe you mean OU, because that USC team was the best college team that EVER took the field.
By LifelongDawg
September 25, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this
It’s insulting to even have a debate on this. If any SEC team is able to go undefeated then that team obviously belongs in the title game, especially UGA, which plays every SEC team that is currently ranked in the top 25. Throw a decent GT team in along with a respectable Kentucky program, and this is a truly brutal schedule. The Dawgs’ opponents for the rest of the season have a combined record of 26-4. Even allowing for the records of the first 4 teams that overall mark is 34-12. Granted, most will get picked off in conference play somewhere along the line, but it is entirely possible that every one of UGA’s foes could end up in a postseason game. Barring an unexpected collapse, all can expect at least a .500 record. Tennessee needs to get better FAST, though.
I doubt that any other team can match Georgia’s schedule for degree of difficulty.
By USC-FAN.... ha
September 25, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this
Dont give me any garbage about georgia’s schedule or the fact that they scheduled a cupcake (georgia southern). USC plays 3 teams that are in the bottom 30 of the league. 1 bad team against UGA is still way better than the fact that USC plays 3 bad teams. Go Dawgs
By God
September 25, 2008 5:55 AM | Link to this
By FLA DAWG
“Tell us, how many SEC Teams does USC have scheduled during their regular season this year? Yeah, that’s what I thought.”
What a stupid statement….one can say how many SEC teams has USC on their schedule? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
By God
September 25, 2008 7:00 AM | Link to this
By PACWIN
“USC is 3-0 against the SEC . They beat than #6 ranked Auburn, and Arkansas 2 time. In 2006 Arkansas went on to win 10 games after USC beat them.”
CORRECTION: USC IS 4-0 VS SEC. HOME AND HOME VS ARKANSAS AND AUBURN….
By DawginLex
September 25, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
SC Rules,
You really spent a lot of time coming up with those original lines didn’t you ? What are you 12 ?
If you can’t run with the BIG DAWGS, go eat tofu sandwiches tofu boy.
Enjoy Pasadena because you won’t be in Miami !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By DP
September 26, 2008 12:56 AM | Link to this
USC goes down on September 25.
Nice column Tony.
By Bozo bus
September 27, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this
Reading these comments on the heels of the Beavers’ defeat of the underachieving Trojans brings chuckle after chuckle. Where are all these deluded braggarts now? One can hope they have crawled under the rocks from which they emerged and will remain there. This obnoxious fanbase plagues the sports nation. They will not be missed.
By GOD
September 28, 2008 3:50 AM | Link to this
Ha ha!!
Down with the Dawgs…there goes the national championship. And I can tell you…this wont be your last loss this year!!
Ha ha!! Now who is over-rated…Bozo Bus!!!!??
By Bozo bus
September 28, 2008 7:34 AM | Link to this
GOD, the rankings have not come out since the Trojans lost to the Beavers so only God knows who will be ranked where. My team remains undefeated, however, so your laughter is misdirected. The day will come when we fall from the ranks of the undefeated. The only fanbase that believes their team is invincible is the Trojan nation. That’s why the humbling by the Beavers is so funny. Trojans are in serious need of a reality check. Read the comments above! These people are sick puppies.