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DEL.ICIO.USOklahoma had no choice on Jarboe
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
On Tuesday our Drew Jubera did a marvelous job of reporting and telling the story of Josh Jarboe, the former Oklahoma player from Ellenwood. Jarboe was released from the OU program after a cellphone video that contained a number of violent references and a string of profanities made its way to YouTube.
Drew interviewed a number of people who spoke to the fundamental goodness of the kid. I have no reason to doubt their sincerity. I have not met Josh Jarboe. He may be a wonderful kid. The claim is that he was just doing what kids his age do and became a victim of today’s technology. In short, he engaged in behavior that, in another time, would never have seen the light of day.
But I also know when it comes to something like this the fact that Jarboe may be a good person is pretty irrelevant.
Here are the facts:
Jarboe was expelled from high school for bringing a weapon onto the Cedar Grove campus. When approached by authorities he tried to hide the weapon. He had to take online classes to get his high school diploma.
Oklahoma stuck with Jarboe after this incident. Based on their research he was a good kid who made a bad decision. Teenagers make bad decisions all the time. That was a reasonable position to take.
But when Jarboe’s 74-second video hit cyberspace, the entire dynamic changed. Now Oklahoma had a kid who, after almost losing everything because of the gun charge, makes a video that makes references to AK-47s and shooting people in the head.
Head coach Bob Stoops at first supported Jarboe, feeling that what he did was a private event that never should have gone public. But Stoops must know what his players already know: Everything video, sooner or later, makes it way to the internet.
Here is the harsh reality of this situation. This is really not about Jarboe or some kind of clash of cultures or a generational misunderstanding.
This is about the fact that in April of 2007 a crazed student walked into a Virginia Tech classroom building and murdered 32 people. It’s about the fact that there were some signs that the killer at Virginia Tech was prone to violence. But nobody picked up on those signs until it was too late.
What if Oklahoma, knowing Jarboe’s background, had just let the video incident slide? Now consider the unthinkable. What if the ultimate horror story takes place and someone’s child is killed at Oklahoma with Jarboe holding the gun?
Understand that there is no evidence that Jarboe has any tendency towards violence. By all accounts, he is just a normal, talented kid looking for an outlet for his creativity. But again, what kind of person Jarboe is becomes irrelevant in this kind of discussion.
If you run a major university, you simply can’t afford think of the individual in a situation that has this set of facts You have to think in terms of the worst possible scenario and what the liability to the institution would be if it happened. In the context of the massacre at Virginia Tech, Oklahoma had no choice. They had to let Jarboe go.
If we must teach our children anything, it is that they do not live or make their decisions in a vacuum. Every word, every deed is put into the context of the world around them. If you are a football player at a major university, that goes double. Is that fair? Nope. But it’s reality.
Josh Jarboe had to learn that lesson the hard way. Hopefully the lesson he learned and the price he paid won’t be lost on others.
Am I wrong about this? Was what this kid did just harmless fun? Are the adults overreacting here?
You tell me.
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Comments
By Mikey in Sav
August 13, 2008 6:12 AM | Link to this
No, Tony, you are not overreacting. A line has to be drawn somewhere.
Coach Stoops supported Jarboe by giving him a chance-then the kid repaid him with this silly nonsense.
Move on….
By Dallas Dawg
August 13, 2008 6:38 AM | Link to this
He should enroll at Auburn.
Won’t have to go to class.
Can fight daily in practice.
Get filled with steroids.
Pad his stats with creampuff ooc teams.
Plat for a grade A jerk.
Go Dawgs!
By SSI
August 13, 2008 6:41 AM | Link to this
That was a very fine article about the current culture among young people. OU, like UGA, has a former politician (US Sen.)at it’s head. Sometimes…and I really mean sometimes…they make the correct decesions.
By Monty
August 13, 2008 7:07 AM | Link to this
Hearing strong returns from practice in T-town. All you boys who worry about point spreads, load up on the Tide on Aug. 30. Not only will we cover, but we win easily over a soft Clemson team.
RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By MiltonMan
August 13, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this
Come on Tony - “…doing what kids his age do.” Most kids I know are not doing garbage like that & if continue using your logic we will see more and more of this.
By Dallas Dawg
August 13, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this
Temper your enthusiasm. Bama will have a decent year, next year and beyond they will be tough! Still need more experienced depth. Good luck though.
Go Dawgs !
By RAMBLE ON!!!
August 13, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this
Richt will be offering him a scholarship soon…his rap would be great with their TD dance.
By Gator Nation
August 13, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this
Dallas Dawg
Are you really throwing barbs at Auburn? With the number of off-season arrests by Georgia football players this past summer you may want to take this succinct advice:
Shut up
By Milo "don't forget me" Hamilton
August 13, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
I’m with the mighty Sooners on this one. It’ll be interesting to see where the punk ends up. And how long before the “he’s a good kid who deserves a 2d (3d?) chance and is actually a great leader” stories appear, and then how long after that he gets arrested again.
By the way, I still think the Dogs are in for a major letdown —say an 8-4 season.
By Dallas Dawg
August 13, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
Gator Nation, still bitter about your lose in J’ville? * GET USE TO IT * So take your own advice.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Well, he is afterall from Georgia. He would fit right in up there in Athens.
WDE
By allenlaw
August 13, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Jarboe did not do “what kids his age do,” he gleefully recorded a rap song glorifying violence and brought a weapon to a high school. This is not “what kids his age do,” this is what hoodlums and hoodlum wanna-be’s do.
They say: “he engaged in behavior that, in another time, would never have seen the light of day.” Yeah, we call that other time “the past.” How is that relevant? When we catch a bank robber because of security video or DNA, that is also something that “would never have” been in “another time.”
So: “A young man who brings weapons to high school (only a fool would believe he just happened to get caught the only time he did it) and glorifies violence in a gleeful rap, wants to attend a state university far from home for free in order to play a violent game.” Hmmm. Sound like a good idea to anyone here?
No, I didn’t think so.
If he wants to get past this, go to a small college and play and get straight.
By 82DAWG
August 13, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
FWIW, according to Scout.com, Georgia never offered Jarboe. Wonder if they saw character issues early on and just decided to take the high road on this one.
By Eric1
August 13, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Dallas Dawg, please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t UGA the school where they throw diplomas in your car window as you drive through Athens? That must be how you got yours. War Eagle!!
By BigP
August 13, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Good article, too bad the discussion turns so quickly to the thoughts of the usual idiots with nothing of value to add. I think you are correct this was an easy decision for OU. I will be surprised if the kid gets another offer from any significant program. Maybe in two years if he stays squeeky clean.
By thUGa
August 13, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Bring yo bangin up to athens mr jarboe. we need more of that richt miami thug look!we can dance on the field when our coach richt says * go out there and get some UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT PENALTIES*, he’s da man.
By Spike
August 13, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
You are right, Tony. He did not learn his lesson and if something bad did happen, all the liberal knuckleheads would wonder why we did not “connect the dots”. Enough is enough.
By Onion Ring
August 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
It was just a matter of time before the hoodlum personna showed itself again. Another example of a wasted opportunity. Good riddance. I hope this will serve as an example to any other kids that like to flaunt the thug lifestyle.
By ODELL
August 13, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
Dis kat’s alright, sign’em up coach!
By Kenny
August 13, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
Tony,
I think you are wrong about kicking him out of school because of the video. If Stoops had kicked him out after the incident that had happened at his high school he would have been well with in his rights.
I am sure I am alone in this but, it is a rap video, and like it or not this is what they rap about in ganster rap videos. I get that most people do not understand it, or like; I do not even like it. I just do not think as a singular incident that a gangster rap video, that was honestly not any good should have been the reason he was kicked out of school.
As I wrote before, if Stoops was going to withdrawl his scholarship before he ever attended Oklahoma he would have been well within his right. I just think this was more of an issue where Stoops got a lot of pressure (alumni, boosters, media, etc…)over the video, and felt he had to make a decision. In this era of instantaneous feedback due to the massive amount of information available, it can be difficult to handle. I think this is why Stoops had the reversal in his decision.
Of course, all that being said it still may have been the best decision for Oklahoma. I just tend to believe that this event, as a singular event, separate of others is not a reason to necessarily get rid of a player.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Richt teaches the THUG lifestyle by telling his team to go out and blatently get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
Why can’t you dumddogs see the light!
Richt hides under his goody two shoes personality!
WDE
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Richt teaches the THUG lifestyle by telling his team to go out and blatently get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
Why can’t you dumddogs see the light!
Richt hides under his goody two shoes personality!
WDE
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Rolling with the homies.
Hey UGA fans casting aspersions against AU for it’s players behavior is like George Michaels calling Elton John fey.
It just doesn’t make any sense.
Coach Tubs graduates his players and they stay out of trouble.
Zero off field issues THIS SUMMER.
TRRE
By Milton Jeff
August 13, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
First off: FU to the morons on this blog. Thug this & thug that..UGA never had an incident like this. Those of you who were smart enough to attend a major university, are well aware of college kids drinking and sometimes are in the wrong place at the wrong time. What this kid did was wrong. Columbine, VT, and numerous other school shootings has this country fearing for another similiar situation. Its one thing to have a handgun, its another to talk about shooting people in the head and posting it on YouTube. This kid was a moron and brought it on himself. And anybody who wants to throw in the “race card” in this topic is a pansy. Race is not the issue here. ITS COMMON SENSE!!!
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
To top it off, wasn’t Sturdivant the thug grabbing pregnant women?
Richt is allright with that behavior. No suspension for the starting left tackle.
Karma took care of that.
WDE
TRRE
By Milton Jeff
August 13, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Roswell Ed: Thug lifestyle = dancing in the end zone. Man you are absolutly brilliant!! Holy crap!! Guys, we have the next Stephen Hawkins on our blog here. I mean the comparisons are just remarkable. Fla players use & shoot semi-automatic weapons, use a dead girls CC..GT rapes students, Bama players sell coke on campus. But NOOOOO….they are not thugs. They are just “gifted” i guess. Bunch of morons!!
By Dangerous Dawg
August 13, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
The toilet paper the booger eating auburn crowd throws in the trees after a game is worth more than a diploma from that $hithole!
By Kenny
August 13, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Is karma what happened to Auburn’s starting CB? Is karma what happened to Furr? Is karma what happened to Antonio Coleman when Lee Ziemba broke his back?
By BigP
August 13, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Karma ran over their dawgma!
By Pago Flyer
August 13, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Word on the street is that VA TECH and OHIO STATE are looking at this young thug.
By Lowcountry Bulldawgs
August 13, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
So its ok for Les Miles to hang out around Snoop Dog. Lets give him a free pass. Snoop Dog, remember was on trial for attempted murder. Les Miles now is making fun with him. Now Jarboe who while is in the wrong is being roasted by you bloggers. If anyone should have caught flack it is Les Miles for associating with SNOOP DOG!!!
By James in Tallahassee
August 13, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
You asked for insight, hopefully you will read this: The kid was treated unfairly by Oklahoma. Is there no longer freedom of speech? I wouldn’t be surprised if he sues the university. The fact that this video of him rapping, which to most who listen to it already know the spewn out lyrics are virtual fantasy anyway. I don’t condone his actions let me be clear but for an 18 year old kid, hanging with his buddy, and rapping into a cell phone video camera, the punishment barely fits the crime…what’s next? If you are caught playing grand theft auto and killing up so many people on the game you are “off the team!”…give me a break. Sitting that kid down and letting him know hey “these types of things you cannot do, “or” then you are off the team” might have been a better punishment. The possibility of him being a kid that might be holding a gun in a crime that costs a Oklahoma student his life…I don’t buy that argument because the risk versus reward having to do with that had already been weighed out…terrible.
By ODELL
August 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Milton Jeff ignorance is bliss, ain’t it bro?
By Gt4ever
August 13, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Jarboe would be a perfect fit here on the flats. Give him a call PJ. If you don’t Tennessee will.
By Gutrake
August 13, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
This whole story makes me sick. Now I see why UGA didn’t pursue him as heavily as I was hoping they would. This kid has some issues. He can thank his culture for setting the examples for him in place of parents and responsible role models. HE WAS NOT A VICTIM OF TECHNOLOGY! He was a victim of the culture with no one around to slap his a* back in line. You guys can dance around the real issue all you want, but the fact is…he got what he deserved—and not soon enough.
By Hollywould
August 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
James, Don’t you have enough problems with the criminoles? Never mind, no longer relevant.
By Lowcountry Bulldawgs
August 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
So its ok for Les Miles to hang out around Snoop Dog. Lets give him a free pass. Snoop Dog, remember was on trial for attempted murder. Les Miles now is making fun with him. Now Jarboe who while is in the wrong is being roasted by you bloggers. If anyone should have caught flack it is Les Miles for associating with SNOOP DOG!!!
By Milton Jeff
August 13, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Odell: Im not defending GA players who got arrested/suspended. They, just like Jarboe, brought this on themselves. It is what it is. Besides, its the AD, head coach, and local law enforcement who overall makes the decisions on punishing the players.
By exNFLplayer
August 13, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Yes there is freedom of speech James in Tallahassee. But there are also consequences for that speech. Playing college football is a privelege and certainly not a right. Most teams have conduct stipulations affecting certain actions that bring discredit to the team and the institution, And that my friend is entirely up to the AD, HC, and the administration. Coach Stoops certainly has the right to do what he did. Let Jarboe sue ala Rueben Houston at GT. Even if he wins no judge on this planet can force Coach Stoops to dress him out or let his shoes touch grass in a college contest for the rest of his career. Jarboe can take the Ryan Perouloux route and find another team. This can be a valuable lesson for this kid. If he mans up he can still have a great college experience while cleaning up his image. This kid was going down the same path as Adam Jones. Coach Stoops just did him the biggest favor of his life. The choices are all on the kid now. Maybe he will make the best of it.
By mcdawg
August 13, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
i don’t know how anyone actually understood a word the kid was saying-it was not until the end of the video that i caught references to guns—he ought to enroll in Jacksonville St. and he and the kid from LSU can light it up down there
By Desert Dawg
August 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
FIRST OF ALL—-ROSWELL ED HAS EITHER MISSED HIS MEDICATION FOR SEVERAL DAYS OR IS JUST AN IDIOT! (Does it really matter?)
Virgina Tech and Columbine aside—Is this the kind of behavior that we as a culture want/expect from our most gifted young adults? For some reason, young adults think that this gangster type of behavior is “cool” and makes them more acceptable. WE need to change this attitude and Oklahoma’s actions seed a message that should be sent by many more.
“WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE GANGSTER/VIOLENT ANTI-CULTURAL BEHAVIOR” regardless of how many stars Rivals gave you!
By RoswellEdisAdumbazz
August 13, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Well, he is afterall from Georgia. He would fit right in up there in Athens.
No Roswell Ed, he is more suited to The Georgia Institute of Drug Trafficking and Rape. Can you say Rueben Houston, Jarrard Tarrant, and that wannabee thug Reggie “YO DAWG” Ball? Beer keg lifting is the vice at UGA. Tech is nothing more than a stepping stone to bigger and better things in the world of drug dealing, overdosing, and abusing women.
By Token Gringo
August 13, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
The facts will never change whether you are white, black, asian, indian, or from West Virginia… If YOU dress like a thug, and if YOU act like a thug, expect society to treat YOU like a thug. I don’t think OU was worried that Jarboe would go postal on campus, I think that they did not want to be known as Gangsta U. Jarboe is old enough to know that he has a reputation from his previous mistake. OU gave him a second chance and he blew it. He had a chance at a free education and all he had to do was give up acting like a thug in exchange. Truth be told, he’s not a cop killer nor any of the things he raps about, but for some reason, he wants people to think that he’s a thug. Well, Josh Jarboe, now you’ve got all the time in the world to hone your thug rep. You could have been somebody.
By Watchdog
August 13, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
The original article by Drew Jubera was shocking. Trying to paint this thug as a “victim” is inexcusable. He is enamored with the gangster lifestyle, and that has no place in civilized society. Oklahoma was wrong to take a chance on him in the first place.
By purple and gold
August 13, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Hey Lowcountry Bullfag
Snoop showed up at the fundraiser event because he was already in Baton Rouge. Les didn’t invite him Snoop showed up. Get you facts stragiht before you start in someone you fu*king leg humper
By Diamond Dawg
August 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Let’s see, of the three southern blue chip receivers in the 08 class we persued AJ Green. From all accounts he’s a great kid. Very humble. Avoided the spotlight after making an early commitment and watched Mr. Jarboe and Julio Jones do their road show to much fan fare. I think this speaks volumes as to the type of athlete CMR is trying to recruit to UGA. It’s an imperfect science but anyone could see that Jarboe could be a problem.
I’ll bet a Jason Respert trading card that he ends up at UT.
By Maniac is accurate
August 13, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Maybe he can go to the Jacksonville State Correctional Facility in Alabama and be Ryan Perriloux’s cellmate. I hear they even have an educational program there.
By Lowcountry Bulldawgs
August 13, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
P&G,
Snoop was in town, so he had someone in his possy call up and let Les and Company know this and to say they wanted to stop in. Ole Les said sure (disregarding the facts that this is a gangster rapper, drug abuser, and a gain someone who was accused of murder). Does this show good judgement by Les? If the head coach is going to be a folly to this, then how can we hold young men who simply rap into a camera phone accountable? This is ridiculous.
By UGA Alum c/o 97
August 13, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Great article Tony, it’s a shame that this kid has continually used bad judgement lately. I agree with OU’s decision. Hopefully Jarboe will think before he acts and use sound judgement in the future. There is no school whether its the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big XII or whatever that doesn’t have athlete’s that has occasionally got into trouble.
I’m ready for the season to begin and we can let all the talking/blogging stop and let the teams decide it on the field. Gonna be some great games the first few weeks of the season. Good luck to all.
By ODELL
August 13, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
RoswellEdisAdumbazz, classy post coz.
How many times has Randy McMichael been arrested for beating his wife?
While she was pregant…
Tarrant, I wonder if he’s as guilty as those Duke Lacross players?
By Spike
August 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
ExNFLplayer.. You are right on the button and exactly right! Enough is enough!
By Sooner Jeff
August 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
As a die hard SOONER I hated to see the kid dismissed because of his athletic talent. But on the FAR MORE IMPORTANT other hand, Stoopsie had no choice. He was given a second chance with a short leash and blew it!! Good luck to the kid….but not at OU.
By purple and gold
August 13, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
I never said that what OU did was right. But heres the thing, right or wrong in my eyes doesn’t mean a thing. OU didn’t call me up and ask what I thought they should do about this kid and I am guessing that they didn’t care what your take on it was. But what does Snoop Dogg stoping by to see Les have anything to do with OU and Jarboe? Last time I checked Les Miles didn’t coach at OU. Don’t hate on Les and LSU just because he can win a NC in his 3rd at LSU and don’t give me any sh!t about it being Saban’s recruits. Les still had to coach them for the three years he was there.
By MDawg
August 13, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/08/12/fla.wilson/index.html
Andy Staples has a good article up on SI.com that’s along these same lines…interestingly it’s about how Urban Myer handled a player involved in an incident with an AK-47 which he ties into how he handled other player misconduct situations…pretty good accounting of what the coaches have to deal with & how even if a talented kids mess up at one school there’s usually a other schools waiting in line to give them another chance
By Michael Scott -- Mgr Dunder Mifflin
August 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
What is disturbing that GA taxpayer dollars are going to wards of the state such as Roswell Ed who clearly is a shut-in and his spending part of his government check on Internet access. This guy spends endless hours of time posting on the AJC message boards…clearly he has no job, has friends, has obviously never been with a girl, and most likely a World of Warcraft master champion.
Of course, there is the strong possibility that he is living in his mother’s basement and freeloading off of her while she works 2 jobs to support his habits….sad for her, but at least it would be better for the taxpayers of GA.
By Lowcountry Bulldawgs
August 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
P&G,
Not trying to “hate” on LSU and Miles. It is the complexity of the issue at hand. On one hand we have a head football coach of a school who (intentioned or not) was associating himself with someone who is not the most reputable of people. As a UGA fan people gave CMR slack for soldier boy. Remember? Now Miles is Seen fraternizing with Snoop and we the public dismiss it. Now Jarboe is booted from the program after rapping into a cell phone. Now us being adults should realize that there was no intention of him to do whatever he might have rapped about. It was simply a young man doing exactly what Snoop does and any other rapper. Now we dismiss Jarboe from the program and perhaps rid him of a college education (i say that lightly, but remember they are “student -athletes). Then kind of laugh it off with the head coach,who should have himself used better judgement.
While I do not agree with Jarboe, the double standard should be alarming.
GOOO Dawgs!!!
By Dan
August 13, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
WRONG! You dismiss a guy for breaking no laws - hip-hop groups make tons of money doing the same thing and even win awards for it. There are also first amendment rights that allow him to express his views. I know you are aware of that! He was only emulating his idols. Look at all the “stuff” the NBA fosters in youths - all with the blessing and support of print and electronic media. Is he a bad kid - only time will tell, but now there are no coaches to aid in getting his head on straight.
By Dave
August 13, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Some of these kids have rappers as heroes who advocate violence and athletes pick up on it. Just like a disease it spreads to the next nut who does not see it as theater to them theater and life become one and the same. It is time to let these athletes know actions have consequences. The NFL has taken a stand I am glad it is spilling over to college. Maybe college needs a commissioner also like Roger Goddell that steps in and scares the thug out of some of these thug wanna bees before they get to the NFL.
By JR
August 13, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
I want to thank 82DAWG for the best laugh I have had this year. UGA not recruiting someone because of character issues? Priceless!
By MDawg
August 13, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Read the article Oklahoma used the scholarship that came open with the release of Jarboe to sign a kid LSU recently dismissed for disciple issues…it could turn out to be almost a trade if Jarboe goes to LSU…None of the schools are just taking all good character kids…I think there plan\hope is to have the program be place the kid can grow & put the knukleheadness behind them
By gdawginkalamazoo
August 13, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Coach was correct. Can’t have that kid being the face of your football program. These kids have to understand that playing for a major university football program (or any school or program for that matter) is a priveledge not a right. You have to act respectable in everything you do. You are held to different standards than most “kids” because tax paying dollars are funding your scholarship. For every kid out there who does things like this there are 2 or 3 kids out there just as talented who do the right things in life.
By RAMBLE ON!!!
August 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Michael Scott — Mgr Dunder Mifflin, Roswell Ed will be the first to tell you he went to Davidson and then transferred to Auburn. What he won’t tell you is Daddy got him in to Davidson where he flunked out, went to Auburn and graduated, and is now working at Daddy’s business doing nothing but blogging all day and waiting for him to leave his business to him.
Our tax dollars won’t go to use until he takes Daddy’s business to Chapter 11.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
August 13, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
There’s a difference between a questionable character kid and a bum who talks about murdering people. That difference becomes more pronounced when one considers that Jarboe has already been apprehended at an institution of learning carrying a firearm. Any school that accepts this bum is choosing football over the safety of teachers and the student body. Here’s hoping he winds up in prison before he kills anyone!
By Hal
August 13, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
“The claim is that he was just doing what kids his age do and became a victim of today’s technology. In short, he engaged in behavior that, in another time, would never have seen the light of day.”
You are correct Tony. We do a lot that should never see the light of day. Ah American culture don’t you just love it. And we wonder why half the world hates us.
By K
August 13, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
With all these castigators on this blog its a wonder why the world isn’t a better place? I know Josh “personally” he has been a guest in my house. I understand Stoops decision. Josh, good kid bad choices. The thugs I know aren’t even playing football in High School and in the context of the word “thug” used in some of these blogs the president is a thug too.
By Spike
August 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Hal.. Why do you care if half the world hates us and what does that have to do with football?
By Pat Dye
August 13, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Roswell Ed very well could be the biggest loser to have ever attended Auburn — if in fact he ever attend the University. What a doucheb@g…..sad….clearly Mommy and Daddy need to budget his Internet usage better and force him to go to 4H mixer or some other social gathering so that he can have an outlet whereby he can learn to make friends and somehow score a date in hopes of one day moving out of the basement — I doubt they planned on him still living at home at this point in his life, poor souls.
By Billy
August 13, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
It amazes me how many people don’t understand the first amendment. Freedom of speech means that you have the right to say what you want without being arrested. It doesn’t mean that you are free from any consequences. If someone were to give their beliefs about their employer, they are well within their rights. However, their employer also has the right to fire them.
Glad to see that our liberal education system is doing such a good job teaching the Constitution…
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Ramble On:
the 8:50 post is mine and all the rest are from my stalker.
He or she will almost immediately post something after this that will be similar to this.
I even tried to signature mine with TRRE and they immediately posted something with the same sig.
What’s sad is that the AJC has no way to assign unique aliases.
I would hope y’all that have read me in the past can tell the difference between clever and just being rude.
Maybe not.
It really doesn’t matter though because with TB leaving the paper our college football blogging will be coming to an end soon.
To the other Roswell Eds:
I was hated for being smart, clever and quick witted. You have taken that great alias and turned it into being hated for just being a total tool.
I guess your jealousy got the best of you and since you couldn’t compete with me intellectually you decided to take the low road and tarnish the most clever blogger on the AJC.
I’ll still be Roswell Ed and if the others wish to live vicariously through me have at it. The rest of you will just have to figure out who the real one is.
It shouldn’t be too hard. The stuff he writes is grade school insults.
In fact Ramble On I’m a little disappointed that y’all can’t tell the difference.
By Clyde
August 13, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
What’s the difference between rapping about violence and making a movie about violence. It seems like the young black man gets judged differently.
And I’m sure Bob Stoops has used profanity on the football field while coaching at Oklahoma.
By Uplift
August 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Tony,
I have to agree with you on this issue. I had a chance to listen to the song, and I was offended. He made the mistake of carrying a gun to high school, and now he wants to glorify shooting people in the head.
Hopefully, Jorboe will get some guidance on how to conduct himself as a civilize person. Also, I’m hoping that he would go to a smaller school and make good grades. Then, once he realized that in life you can have fun rapping, but you must get get rid of the tug mentality.
As far as being a victim of technology he needs to learn that Big Brother is always looking and not to mention our Lord in Savior.
Keep the Faith Young Man!
By Deonte'
August 13, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Can someone explain to me how a thug looks? It’s a very prevalent term used in these blogs for Black athletes when something bad happens. So could one of you intelligent bloggers tell me how a thug looks and talks?
By Puh-leeze
August 13, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
“What’s the difference between rapping about violence and making a movie about violence. It seems like the young black man gets judged differently.”
They get judged differently because rappers are routinely busted for gun charges and are involved in violent incidents. Tupac ring a bell? What about BIG? Your attempt to inject race in to this discussion is absolutely pathetic. I doubt Bruce Willis goes around acting like John McClane. Die Hard was a fictional movie. Are you saying rap is fictional? I thought they were “keeping it real” and rapping about life on the streets? Get real. This kind of race baiting garbage gets us nowhere. I am sick of it.
By BigDawg
August 13, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
I was hated for being smart, clever and quick witted. You have taken that great alias and turned it into being hated for just being a total tool.
LMAO!!
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Ramble on, the 12:20 post is not mine either, just someone trying to calm the masses and sound intelligent to fool everyone into thinking I’m someone else.
By Boots Bagby
August 13, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Your article on Josh Jarobee is excellent. As a former OU player and OU fan it pains me (all of us actually…) to loose a player of the caliber of Josh. There is no doubt he would have been a huge asset to OU over the next few years. However as you laid out the facts Bob Stoops had no choice. It is unfortunate for all concerned. But, we have to start brining back to our culture in the US the aspect of “cause and effect” and ACCOUNTABILITY. The lessons learned from situations like this can have an impact that goes well beyond football players and other athletes. It can help all young people of any race or background. This is important for our culture and the future of the country.
Now, before someone makes the comment that this situation with Josh is not going to change anything I need to add you are correct. But, while it may be old fashioned “we have to start someplace.” Also, hopefully this finally get his attention and allow him to make some basic changes in his life so that he can attain all that is possible with his God given talent. I can say for many folks that are OU fans we hope he does make the changes, get into another program, and attain all he looks to be able to do. Our only reservation is that he does not come back and use it against OU. However, if he does this will be a huge testiment to not only the decision but to Josh himself. GO Sooners!!!!
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Dreads, baggy pants to reveal underwear, having to hold up your pants while you walk, anyone who plays in the NBA, etc, etc, etc, etc.
War Eagle
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Deonte:
What’s a thug?
It’s kind of like pornography.
It’s hard to describe what it is,
but you know it when you see it.
See Ramble on this is both clever and funny.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Verification, the 12:48 post is really mine. And I am still brilliant.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Verification, the 12:48 post is really mine. And I am still brilliant.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
I forgot a few.
Anyone that plays for UGA.
The fake Roswell Ed.
Bammers.
The other fake Eds.
By Roswell Ed's Mummy
August 13, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Leave my boy Ed alone, he just ran back down to the basement crying.
By Deonte'
August 13, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Puh-leeze how many rappers do you actually know? Come on now. You just mentioned two rappers that died over 10 years ago. I don’t really know many rock and heavy metal artists, so I’m not about to say most kids that listen to them are acid users or meth fiends. I just don’t know enough about that genre of music to make sensible opinion. Without even mentioning the Jarboe incident, these Black athletes are held to a different standard. I don’t personally think the kid should have been kicked off the team, but I do believe he should have known the potential scrutiny he’d be under in Oklahoma from his past actions. So I’m not upset he was kicked off, because that’s what the coach decided was best for his team. With that said, I don’t totally believe he would’ve been kicked off the team if he were white. Maybe, but I not totally sure.
By Famuan
August 13, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Whatever happened with those good decent kids that broke into the 150 plus cars last Thanksgiving weekend?? Remember, those sweet all-american kids from suburbia that broke into cars stealing thousands of dollars worth of electronics which they planned to sell on Ebay? Whatever happened with those great high school athletes? Have scholarships been rescinded? Were they locked up? Where these menaces to society even given probation?? None of the above??
Figures.
By mike
August 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
You are absolutely correct. It’s a shame that Stoops took an entire day to realize what he had to do.—OU fanatic.
By ODELL
August 13, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
He shouldn’t have been kicked off the team. It should have been internal discipline. You see how it worked for me.
…maybe even suspended for a few games.
By Deonte'
August 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Roswell Ed,
You know it when you see it? Wow. Tell me this then, Why is America so infatuated with these thugs playing college football, NFL, NBA, etc? I’m even assuming that you are sports fan, and I’m sure some of the athletes are your favorite teams are sporting some dreads or tatooes. And from your descripiton your saying Steve Nash is a thug? He is in the NBA you know.
By spiderboy
August 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
bottom line is he entered OU under a cloud. he was advised by stoops that he had to be on his best behavior and he failed the test. stoops is a no nonsense coach. he gives you a second chance but combines it with a no tolerance approach. good luck to the kid but stoops was correct all the way around on this one.
By Roswell Ed
August 13, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
BTW, I don’t mind the dreads & grill that SenDerrick Marks has because he plays for **Tommy Tuberville!!
By CarolinaJacket
August 13, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
MDawg, I thought that was a bit much myself. Seems like as long as they don’t do it at Your school (in this case, Okla), they are fair game. As many of us have said over and over, it’s time that coaches put an end to this foolishness, and that applies to all coaches at all schools. And in regard to freedom of speech, would a coach have the right to dismiss a player who used his right to freedom of speech to tell an opposing coach about the week’s game plan? There are limits to freedom of speech and an institution or business can determine those if they affect production or effectiveness.
By gator the dog catcher
August 13, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Richt would have just suspended him for the 1AA opener and had him back for conference play.
By ODELL
August 13, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
gator the dog catcher, what chu talkin bout willis?
By GatorGuy
August 13, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
Eric1 I’m a Gator and Dawg “hater” but I have to say, you don’t want to get into an academic pi$$ing match with UGA. AU is not even close to being in UGA’s league when it comes to academics. Here’s how it works in the SEC:
By Herschel Walker
August 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Roswell Ed-
You got more schizo personalities than even me!
By Fact Checker
August 13, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
GatorGuy:
I decided to look up what you stated in your post above. Big surprise, you’re wrong. For simplicity (so you could understand), I chose US News & World Report for 2008. The rankings go like this:
Vanderbilt Florida Georgia Alabama Auburn/Tennessee (tied) South Carolina Kentucky/Arkansas (tied)
Although Auburn certainly isn’t at the top of the list, they are also not nearly as bad as you would have people believe they are.
By FLA DAWG
August 13, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Be easy on Roswell Ed. He’s from Roswell, New Mexico - the aliens left him behind.
By football
August 13, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Did mr. Jar Bow wear #7 ??
By Ramblin Wrecker
August 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
All of this makes me think of the “U” and how Sean Taylor ended up shot in his own home. The sad truth is that a lot of these kids who end up in college football these days are coming from backgrounds that if they weren’t athletically talented, might just as easily end up as gangbangers. So yes, Oklahoma made the right choice. You see Jarboe had already displayed a knack for bad judgement and a tendency to tread on dangerous ground. I think the video shouldn’t have kept him from playing, having a gun on a high school campus should have. Rapping about having guns or shooting guns or shooting people is harmless if it’s done by some kid who doesn’t own a gun. But for someone who carries a gun, they are already halfway there to carrying out the lyrics of their rap. Consider what has happened to real rappers. If you fantasize about a certain lifestyle and then take steps to live it out, sometimes it comes to full fruition. See B.I.G and Tupac. Those who sensationalize a certain lifestyle are prone to live it out. Jarboe wasn’t rapping about some abstraction, he was putting a real lifestyle on a pedestal to be admired. That’s dangerous. Sean Taylor lived on that edge too and it caught up to him, even if he tried to leave it behind.
By MDawg
August 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Jarboe transferred to Troy…I was expecting him to land at another BCS school but Troy’s a good fit for a receiver…not sure on the structure & disciple he seems to need
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3533386
By Micjhael
August 13, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/08/13/troy.jarboe.ap/index.html
He’s goign to Troy now.
By CarolinaJacket
August 13, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Sounds like U. of Miami again. “We like to help …. (those who otherwise would not be accepted in college). they won a lot of games with that philosophy, but you never knew who they would beat the hell out of in fights as well. Maybe the kid will turn it around, I hope he does better than the Vick boys, who also attended a school that seems to have that philosophy.
By Najeh Davenpoop
August 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
I was unaware that the first amendment doesn’t apply to hip hop music. Interesting. Wonder where in the Constitution the Founding Fathers mentioned that.
(Note: The University of Oklahoma, being a publicly-funded state institution, is bound by the provisions of our Constitution, unlike a privately funded institution.)
Maybe this kid is gonna commit a murder some day, who knows. But dismissing a player because of a freestyle rap on Youtube is idiotic and a violation of his rights.
By Phil
August 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
ANOTHER TYPICAL THUG! Why is it that these moron black athletes are always the ones getting in trouble? Does not matter if it is college or pro. 99% of the time when an athlete is in trouble, they are black. Why can’t they control themselves? Yea, a handful of whites get into trouble but that is always simply for drinking.
By gTech
August 13, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
GT needs to make a serious run at this kid. He could be the last piece to the Jackets NC run this year. GO JACKETS! THWG!!
By Nice Fit 4 Tech
August 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
GT needs to add Jarboe to their squad. He’s a virtual lock to join Rueben Houston, Jarrard Tarrant, and Joe Hamilton on their illustrious and growing Wall of Shame.
By Tom
August 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
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82DAWG, I’m pretty sure that if UGA had NOT been actively pursuing Jarboe, he wouldn’t have included a UGA cap in his announcement “cap pick”. That woulda’ been kinda silly, huh?
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By Buckhead Eagle
August 13, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
Tony - finally - something that I disagree with you on!! No excuses for this kid - and understand that he is a kid.
He made a serious mistake at his highschool - then given the “second chance” that all people are willing to give - WITH A SCHOLARSHIP TO OKLAHOMA!!
He was warned to be on his very best behavior …. and made yet another immature, childish decision - and now IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE - just like he should be - just like an adult would be held accountable.
BUT DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR JOSH JARBOE!!!
THE POSITIVES:
He still will have a college scholarship to play football at Troy.
He will be attending college - and will have an opportunity to get an education.
Maybe, just maybe - this young man matured a little - will not point any fingers, make any excuses - and accept responsibilty of his own actions.
MAYBE - JUST MAYBE - ADULTS (including you Tony) will quite making excuses like technology and look at the facts - a young man is being held accountable for his actions.
REMEMBER - GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
TECHNOLGY IS NOT THE REASON WHY JARBOE LOST HIS SCHOLARSHIP AT OKLAHOMA - JARBOE’S BEHAVIOR IS WHY HE LOST HIS SCHOLARSHIP AT OKLAHOMA.
By Gene
August 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
The term “thug” has nothing to do with race. I think Pat Dye and Barry Switzer are good examples of thug/coaches. You can define thugs in terms of their behavior, i.e. breaking beer bottles over people’s heads, sucker punching 150 pound college students, and destroying property at a hospital. Anyone who thinks that this kind of behavior is common to average college students is nuts or just doesn’t care. Listen to the lyrics of some of the rap music that many of these kids listen to most of the day. It is racist. It glamorizes drug use and violence and degrades women. Black leaders like Bill Cosby and Al Sharpton have stated that it creates bad role models for young blacks. Richt has no business promoting this music on the football field. Jarboe and some of Richt’s equivalent bad boys deserve a chance to learn and correct their behavior, but I doubt if anyone learns anything by missing the Georgia Southern and C. Mich. games. This kind of wrist slapping did nothing for Odell Thurman. We will see about Jarboe.
By Jarboe is my homeboy
August 13, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
Let me just start off by saying that Josh Jarboe is c**-strong. Now that thats out of the way, I would like to say that I completely disagree with your opinion sir. It is unquestionable that Jarboe is a fantastic talent who seems to have just made a bad decision. I personally hope that he uses this as an inspiration to right his career and maybe even fulfill his potential as the next great rap superstar. Following in the footsteps of similar college dropouts like The Game and Kanye West.
By Chris
August 13, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this
I grew up with OU, went to OU, and am still a rabid fan, so I can speak with some knowledge here.
Another angle to this story is that in the not-too-distant past, OU was considered by many to be a renegade program, not unlike U. of Miami of more recent years. We had football players who actually fired Uzis on campus (google “Buster Rhymes Oklahoma” for details). Our program is still under some scrutiny by the NCAA for past violations (hello Rhett Bomar). Plus, we’ve had a fair amount of success and are already under the nation’s microscope.
Jarboe probably is a really good kid who made some stupid mistakes, like many of us made at that age. But his mistakes were compounded by these other issues, and that was his downfall. If OU doesn’t have the past, the scrutiny, and the success, it probably isn’t a big deal. I notice he hopped over to Troy pretty quickly.
By Ben in Athens
August 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
I think everyone should check out this link. Andy Staples of SI.com points out something here that not many of us think about when it comes to issues like these. Keep reading after the first page, it’s not going where you think it’s going either. I’m a recent Georgia grad and a Dawg till the day I die and hate Florida with all my being, so I appreciate the foot in mouth moment for Urban Meyer pointed out here, but I also admit he’s at least a decent human being after reading about the whole story here. As TB said, our decisions aren’t made in a vacuum, they all have their consequences, and it’s really something to go against the conventional wisdom and actually consider the whole impact every decision has in life. I think it would be a good thing for a lot you “holier than thou” types to remember.
By Ben in Athens
August 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
Might help if I included the link
Despite firing AK-47, UF’s Ron Wilson allowed back on team
By Denver Dawg
August 13, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this
Your logic is ridiculous. What if he had gone on to shoot and kill a student at OU? We could talk “what ifs” about every student who enters a public univerisity with a record. Let’s talk about the most obvious - a DUI. How many entering freshman have those nowadays? A sh1tload. So the university admits the student knowing of his DUI past and he goes on to kill another student on his 2nd DUI on campus? What then? This is flat out ridiculous to kick him off the team for this. There’s so much worse that kids do who get into school and onto football teams and DO NOT GET KICKED OFF TEAMS and he gets kicked off for this? C’mon Tony, you sound like an unwavering, relentless, unforgiving, presumptuous, cold OLD MAN. Oh wait, maybe you are.
By Ben in Athens
August 13, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Anyone that thinks missing games (no matter how insignificant they may seem to you) doesn’t serve as a punishment to these guys has obviously never been around a lot of college football. These guys live for those games, it’s what they train for ALL their lives. They may not be significant games to you, but I can promise you, they are to those athletes.
By GA All Day
August 13, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Leave it to the AJC to continue to drag blacks in the newspaper and open up a big can of worms. Dont believe me…WHY DOES THE AJC STILL HAVE AN ENTIRE PAGE DEDICATED TO MICHAEL VICK A YWAR LATER. Smae good ol boy racist pricks. Yeah Jarboe was dumb for messing up, but why is the AJC trying to make $$ off of his mishaps.
By Mike
August 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
No question OU did the right thing.
There is NO reason why the rest of us have to accept any activity that supports or glorifies violence. I don’t really give a da* if this is “normal” for black teenagers, they need to understand that most other people ain’t buying that line of cra. It does not matter if you are in the workplace, or in college, you have the freedom to say what you wish, but you do NOT have the RIGHT to say and act as you please with impunity. The sooner someone, anyone has the guts to call out black racism and begins to teach the black community in this country that they have to grow up and start taking responsibility for this cra*, the better for all of us, black, white yellow or whatever people.
By vern
August 14, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this
Seems if he is a thug he woulda fit right in at thUGA. Too bad he turned down Saint Richt. He could have been thUGAs 9th player arrested this year!
By DBCOOPER
August 14, 2008 1:15 AM | Link to this
No comment… because if I say anything that is critical of this criminal behaviour I will be labled a racist. If he were white we would all be able to comment and condemn this.
By Mike Sunderland
August 14, 2008 2:17 AM | Link to this
Being a Sooner living in GA it has really been exciting seeing a kid from GA go to OK to become a Sooner. I was thrilled when Josh made the decision to join fellow GA high schooler Daniel Franklin from Hasbersham and become a Sooner; just as others GA players before them such as Nate Hybl, Tashard Choice (he got tired of sitting behind A.D. and transfered to Ga Tech), and big Duke Robinson.
It was just as equally disappointing to see this incident occur. The word trickling out of summer workouts among the players glowed with upside potential; a dominant football player in the making. Who knows, maybe even the reincarnation of A.D. in a wide receiver’s uniform.
I saw he is enrolling at Troy in Alabama. I am quite certian he will become a star at that level for sure. I sure hope the best for him; I hope he can learn from this and let it help him mature into a young adult. Life is about choices; the ones we make and the ones we do not make. Living with the consequences of our actions and taking personal accountability is one of the tough lessons many of us had to learn at one time in our lives.
Here is one Sooner that hopes Josh can begin to make better choices resulting in better consequences. All the best Josh!
Boomer Sooner!!!
By BravesFan79
August 14, 2008 3:47 AM | Link to this
Just another example of young black culture thats leading the rest of society ito the s**. When a race of men leaves over 70% of its kids with NO father….and is 11 TIMES more likely to have AIDS……..SOMETHINGS WRONG!! Its a shame we as decent human beings get called racist or “uncle toms” for speaking the truth and calling out their b******!
By BravesFan79
August 14, 2008 3:58 AM | Link to this
Thank you for having the balls to put up a actual blog that has to do with real life Tony. All decent people need to join together and fight against this thug culture thats so popular these days.
Its a shame to see so many youngsters throwing away their lives, and the lives of others…just to be “keeping it real”
As a survivior of a carjacking (i outsmarted the 2 dumb niggs), setup attempts, walking in on a gasstation robbery and having a assult rifle pointed at my head, and many other crazy situations while working the streets of atlanta from 99-2005 i know firsthand all about thug culture.
guess what…EVERYTIME..it was a BLACK male…or males….. but i guess im racist for saying that huh??
To me…. the only good thug….is one 6 feet under.
Id be happy to make the world a better place by taking out one.
BE PROUD OF YOUR RACE PEOPLE! Nothing wrong with being proud to be white, we built this country after all! Trust me…. blacks are just as racist if not MORE racist than most whites!
Teach your daughters to stay away from these fools and dont be tricked by their slick talk…because they can talk….but thats all it is….. all talk….
By NikkiFree
August 14, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this
Jarboe should be held accountable for his actions. To excuse what he did because “everybody else is doing it” sounds like some weak excuse for poor behavior you’d get from your kid. Jarboe was still promoting violence in both instances. What I don’t understand is Oklahoma making a statement with Jarboe by letting him go and then immediaitely signing a troublemaker from LSU. What is that?!
By Z-Dawg
August 14, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
The only thing I don’t understand is this: If he was considered a danger to be on the Oklahoma campus, why is he not a danger on the Troy campus????? Could the “unthinkable” not happen there JUST as easily?? Why is Troy not carrying the same concerns as Oklahoma?? This wasn’t a grades issue, where I could understand a transfer, it was a character issue, a safety issue. I don’t think he should be allowed on anywhere until a measure of time passed to prove repentance. If you are a parent of a Troy student, how safe are you feeling in light of VTech incident?
By z-dawg
August 14, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
Bravesfan79…..wow….you’ve got some issues of your own there. I’m white, and the kind of comments you are making are embarrassing. I can see where your personal incidents have caused you to feel this way I guess, but it has jaded you. You need to understand that there is absolutely ZERO connection between the color of someone’s skin, and their actions. ZERO. Upbringing, environment, those things make a difference. Whatever guy held the gun on you, if a white kid had been born and raised in the EXACT same circumstances, are you saying he would be different, just because of a skin pigment? That’s ridiculous. You are right, thugs should be handled, but thugs are individuals, white or black. I wouldn’t want someone judging me based on what others of my race have done….we’ve been behind some of the worst stuff in history, lookup the holocaust.
By Paddy
August 14, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
Kenny… you make some good points,but a president of a major university does not have any duty to try and understand gangster rap. The player should know what would offend a president, AD or HC. He graduated from HS did he not? He was being given money-in-kind for a college degree. Sounds like he was not smart enough to know his bread was already buttered. In what ever context or day-in-time you consider, that type of behavior would have gotten you banished from the tribe, period, no second chances.
By Ed from Roswell
August 14, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Tony, I thought you were leaving the AJC? Please leave now. The garbage you are spewing is getting more and more obsurd! Go Auburn!
By JustMyOpinion!
August 14, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
After reading through all of your comments, I concluded that Bravesfan79 is the most IGNORANT! Joshua Jarboe is a very good football player, and that’s why he’s getting another chance to shine in college. It was Coach Stoop’s decision to kick him off of the team, and you have to respect him for that. But don’t go and blame his problems on the whole black race. It’s not fair to put the pressure of the entire race on this teenager’s (18/19 year old) shoulders. He hasn’t asked for that responsibility, he just want to play football! And now that Troy has given him another chance, why are we (grown A$$ adults) still writing about the past. Let it go, move on, he has!
By BullDawg Rick
August 14, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
Black athletes ike Jarbow are not improving in important areas. They are allowed to live lifes that no one else is allowed to live. They are allowed to do and say things that no one else can say. Most offensively anyone who criticizes a black person is considered a Racist automatically.
Last year, after the Army-Navy game they spoke to the “Captain”. He could barely speak English. He as black btw. How do you get into Annapolis and sound like you are still in the ghetto and have never taken an English class?
Is the only requirement for black athletes that they fog up a mirror? Sure seems that way. Affirmative action at work. When you can get into an elite school and sound like a rapper, we have some serious problems. It’s time to make all people live by the same laws and rules.
Live a thug life, die a thug death. Pretty simple.
By Paddy
August 14, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
James in Tallahassee… The head coach did sit this kid down and explain what he expected of him after the handgun at his HS got him expelled. Did this kid not ever watch the news or read a newspaper about this kind of behavior? Ignorance of the times is no excuse. His actions would have gotten him kicked out of any college in the nation. The people of this country are sick and tired of this kind of scary behavior. They just don’t get it. Then they wonder why this happened to them. Sue the University, PLEASE. That kind of thinking makes me sick.
By chc4
August 14, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Any Auburn alum/fan making fun of the quality of any other school’s diploma is absolutely HILARIOUS. Everyone knows AUB is a joke.
By GC
August 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
By no means do I defend this kid’s actions, but let’s get some things straight:
First, OU was not Josh Jarboe’s second chance. He earned a scholarship, just like the pitcher at Tech who OD’d earlier this year, so let’s be more careful on what we deem wastes of talent. For all we know, both of them are good kids who made bad choices. One kid lost his life and you idiots want to take the other kid’s life away…so much for second chances.
Second, if he’s a behavioral problem, call HIM that, and not every black male. The generalizations are disgusting and truly cast clouds over people who don’t deserve them.
BRAVESFAN79, no self-respecting man is going to allow you to call an entire race of men a bunch of thuggish, freeloading womanizers because one of your exes apparently went black (or blacker) and never went back. You need to get over it, she has. Working the streets, huh? I won’t assume you were a police officer, since you didn’t bother to tell us.
BULLDAWG RICK, you’ve got to be kidding. “Is the only requirement for black athletes that they fog up a mirror? Sure seems that way. Affirmative action at work. When you can get into an elite school and sound like a rapper, we have some serious problems. It’s time to make all people live by the same laws and rules.” Wait a minute, now the academies are Affirmative Action factories as well?? That rap-talking kid is there on the same merits as the rest of his teammates. Take that up with the football HR director, LOL.
Most importantly, how would some of you closets feel if your employer terminated you today over what’s been said on this blog, or if your boss used a couple paragraphs to make a final decision about your character? Not good, I’m certain. If you feel that strongly about it, go on YouTube and say it! We see what it got Josh Jarboe…And how many of you would be shocked by what’s on your kids cellphone, Ipod or computer? Some of you really need to stop applying the old-fashioned double standard.
By maxsportz
August 14, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
So every player who has ever quoted a violent 2pac song should be kicked off the team because 1 idiot out of 300 million went crazy at VA Tech? I wonder if he is more likely to turn to violence now than before he lost his team?
By GatorGuy
August 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Fact Checker I stand corrected, you are not the bottom rung. So, how far apart are UF/UGA and AU?
By TROTTINGHOMETUDD
August 17, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
ROSWELL ED
I TRULEY LAUGHED WHEN YOUR MUMMY POSTED
By luucky 21
August 24, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this
I have sat at home and read all of your comments about Josh Jarboe, and I,m truly amazed. I,m amazed because half of you don’t even know him, and has never evn met him. each individual is different and we are all accountable for our actions and the things we say and do. But I don”t understand how we are considered guilty, and sentenced before we even commit a crime. I’m a parent with two boys. Both of them are athletes, who are very good. They are very mannerable, and both of them received scholarships from D1 schools. I’ve always tried to instill in them the right things. And i did a very goood job. But, I have seen some of the things young girls have sent to their emails, put on thier my-space, and heard some of theings they say on cell phone conversations. I agree with the the blogger who said half of you writing would be surprised to see and hear some of the things your children say and do. For example: girls gone wild, mostly white girls, were they ever suspended from school or even kicked out? How about all the drinking going on in the colleges, and students dying from this and the hazing. All the pranks and things a lot of us did while were in school, and nothing was done. What happens to the kid that stills another school mascot? Is all this just cute? No, it”s just being a college student and trying to grow up to begin our adulthood. Life is a learning experience and you never stop learning. I’m sure if all of you took a look in your closet you will find we all have done things we are not proud of at one time or another. It is a difference between having psychological problems, and rapping about whatever it is. Thugs, and rappers all come in different races, cultures, and ethnicities. and we all have our prejudices. It’s true that it does matter when it comes to the color of ones skin how harsh the punishment will be on that person. So, everyone who has said something look in the mirror and clean your own household.