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DEL.ICIO.USFive games that will decide the ACC championship
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Can’t believe it’s Friday. Can’t believe Memorial Day weekend is here and that the SEC Spring Meetings are next week. Where has this year gone?
Yesterday we gave you five games that will decide the SEC championship. Today we’ll do the same for the ACC.
Enjoy your long weekend and please take a moment to remember who we honor with this holiday and why we honor them. And think about the coaches, including Mark Richt (Georgia), Tommy Tuberville (Auburn), Randy Shannon (Miami), Charlie Weis (Notre Dame) and Jack Siedlecki (Yale), who are making their way back from the Middle East where they visited our troops.
Have a great weekend. We’ll see you Tuesday morning from the SEC Meetings in Destin.
1. Clemson at Wake Forest, Oct. 9: This is a dangerous game for Clemson. If the Tigers beat Alabama on Aug. 30 at the Georgia Dome, they have a good chance to be 5-0 when they visit Groves Stadium on a Thursday night. Jim Grobe, whose teams have won 20 games the past two seasons, may be sneaky good again.
2. Virginia Tech at North Carolina, Sept. 20: You folks may not believe me, but this one may be for first place in the Coastal Division. North Carolina was 4-8 last season but the Tar Heels will be the most improved team in the league in the second year under Butch Davis. This will be a very good football game.
3. Clemson at Florida State, Nov. 8: There is no telling what the mood in Tallahassee will be by the time we get to Bowden Bowl X. But I just get the feeling that this game is going to be big in determining who wins the ACC Atlantic. Tommy has won four of the last five meetings against his dad. Nov. 8, by the way, will be Bobby Bowden’s 79th birthday.
4. Virginia Tech at Miami, Nov. 13: I think Miami gets out of the gate slowly because the Hurricanes are so young. But by this game Randy Shannon’s team will start to figure some things out. This will be the second straight week that Virginia Tech plays on a Thursday night.
5. Clemson at Boston College, Nov. 1: The good news for the Tigers is that they get a week off before going to Chestnut Hill. The bad news is that it might be a low-scoring game because of the cold. The Eagles lost QB Matt Ryan, the No. 3 pick in the draft, but they have seven starters from 2007 plus LB Brian Toal back on defense.
HONORABLE MENTION:
Wake Forest at Florida State, Sept. 20: The last time Wake Forest visited Doak Campbell Stadium, the Deacons handed Bobby Bowden his first home shutout (30-0) ever at Florida State.
North Carolina at Miami, Sept. 27: This will be Miami’s first ACC game in its new home at Dolphin Stadium. The Tar Heels will be coming off a difficult game with Virginia Tech, but they just might surprise the Hurricanes.
Virginia Tech at Florida State, Oct. 25: This will be the fourth road game in five weeks for the Hokies, who are at Boston College the Saturday before. There are also trips to North Carolina and Nebraska in that stretch.
Miami at Georgia Tech, Nov. 20: If Paul Johnson is still looking for his first signature win at Georgia Tech, this Thursday night in November seems like a good time to get it.
Maryland at Clemson, Sept. 27: My Maryland friends are telling me that the Terps are going to jump up and surprise some people this season. If Maryland beats California at home on Sept. 13, the Terps will be 4-0 when they go to Death Valley. If the Fridge has a surprise team, we’ll find out here.
Comments
By tech-hater
May 23, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
Who gives a rat’s a$$ about the Always Crappy Conference? The games that will determine the next National Champion were discussed yesterday.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 23, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
By Jeff
May 23, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
Regarding #2 UNC and VT play in the Coastal division.
By UnderDawg
May 23, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Why dont you run an article entitled, “5 Games That Will Decide the WAC Championship,” Tony? The ACC has just about the same chance to win the BCS Title as the WAC does….that is to say…NONE!!
By br
May 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Woohoo, more useless drivel on the ACC! Bar none, this is THE WORST of the 6 BCS conferences. In fact, I’d might even consider the WAC better since they abuse the ACC in bowl games just about every year!
By Hootie Bookems
May 23, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
I sitll don’t know who is in the coastal vs. the Atlantic. The ACC sucks.
By tech-hater
May 23, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
You’re right, br……who could forget those epic matches Tech staged against Boise St and against Fresno St. in those “War of the Blue Turf” Bowls.
By Roswell Ed
May 23, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
You’ve got to be freaking kidding me.
Clemson at Wake Forest?
That’s says it all.
What about the Oct 4th Ga Tech/Duke game?
There will be more people at The Temple on Peachtree St then there will be at Grant Field.
Is there any name more appropriate then the Flats?
I guess there’s always basketball season.
By reality check
May 23, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
No ACC team has won a BCS bowl in this century.
I can’t help but remember Terrence Moore’s idiotic diatribe 2 years ago about how the ACC has become stronger than the SEC
Actually I guess I should be embarressed to say I even read that idiot’s article.
Tony, I want you to tell your colleague somebody actually remembers something he wrote. I will leave it to your discretion whther to tell him his premise was breathtakingly stupid
By Bull-Spit
May 23, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
I didn’t know the ACC had 5 games worth watching……and the ACC STILL sux.
By Dick Rod
May 23, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
Wow. A decent article on a football related topic, and all the “SEC fans” can do is b$%^ about how bad the ACC sucks. That’s the real problem with the BCS - it took the focus off of good football and focused it on producing a champion. And all of a sudden team fans became conference fans. What? Bama is 8-4? That’s ok, the *SEC is playing for the championship. What? Wake is 9-4? Doesn’t matter, they’re out of title contention.
Pathetic.
By Roswell Ed
May 23, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
This list seams to have shamed ACC fans from commenting.
I mean what the heck can you say about this list?
Tony I agree that Va Tech/UNC game will be huge!!
There is no way to type that with a straight face.
Tony- a list of the top 5 MEAC games next year would be more interesting than this.
Thank god you only had to list the top 5. What ACC game wouldn’t be honorable mention?
By Haywood Jablowme
May 23, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Does anyone that follows college football even read the drivel that Terrence Moore-on spews out? That “ACC is stronger than SEC” story was just one in a long line of columns that made me realize that Moore is an idiot.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 23, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
I can’t remember the last time Bammer actually WON 8 games, can anyone else?
By Jeff
May 23, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
An attempt to stop the bleeding here…
First, thanks Tony for the analysis. I assure you there are plenty of readers who appreciate the article but simply chose to stay out of the bloody messy waters of the blog comments.
Second, the ACC conference is fine. I am not sure why readers who claim that they don’t care to follow the ACC read your article and then even commented on it. Weird. Looking at the structure of the ACC, it is set up to be a very successful power conference based on the successful histories of the top 4 to 5 teams. Those teams since the merger have stepped down a bit and do need to step back up. The players in the ACC are top notch - just look at the NFL draft the last few years. I do believe what has been inferior is the coaching in the league. And there have been many changes the last 2 years. Those who do follow the ACC do expect things to improve and get to the level many predicted (not just Mr. Moore). Every conference has experienced down cycles, unfortunately the ACC had its down cycle just when it was poised to elevate itself. That has disappointed many fans and many analysts.
By Roswell Ed
May 23, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Dick:
Where have you been. We always have had a round up the wagons attitude toward the SEC.
The ACC is like the Big East. It’s a conference thrown together willy nilly.
No one knows what division anyone is in and only 3 of the schools REALLY care about football.
Heck I was born and raised in Atl and I have a 50% chance at best to tell you which one Tech is in.
By UnderDawg
May 23, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
How about the statement….”That Tech vs Duke game will be HUGE!” That could have been typed with a straight face. That game will likely be huge for Tech. It’s probably the only 1-A team they can legitimately beat this season.
By Bull-Spit
May 23, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Only one problem….Moore made that statement about the ACC being stronger than the SEC over 2 years ago, not last week. Now, here we are, 2 seasons later, and Tech STILL can’t beat a WAC team in a bowl game. What does THAT say about the state of the supposed “ACC strength” ??
By godawg
May 23, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…snort…lick, lick, lick…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
By Pago Flyer
May 23, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Who is terrence moore?[;]\
By Tony Barnhart
May 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Jeff,
Thanks for the catch on the Coastal. I fixed it.
TB
By Spike
May 23, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Tony, the dreaded GT Jackets have no game that are in the top 5? Techies, what does Tony know that you guys don’t?
By Nurse Cratchett
May 23, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
godawg, if that is the extent of your contribution to this discussion your decline is very disturbing and speaks volumes about what can happen when a Georgia fan resides in the epicenter of Tennessee country.
By ugauga
May 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Who cares….they will be playing for the right to get spanked in the Peach Bowl…..by the SEC…again
By ugauga
May 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Who cares….they will be playing for the right to get spanked in the Peach Bowl…..by the SEC…again
By Haywordblowyourself
May 23, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Bama has won 8 games more recently than uga has won a National Championship in football…..Roll On….
By Julian
May 23, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
I just wanted the respond to the drivel I’m reading from SEC fans here in Atlanta to this article. Yesterday he did a similar article on the SEC and now their fans are the main ones responding to this article. If our conference is so bad, why do you bother to read and respond? Personally, I think the SEC is low rate character wise. Don’t take my word, there is a DUI article on a Georgia lineman in today’s AJC. And there are a lot of other “incidents” I could list if I cared. The ACC hasn’t done as well as we hoped, but I guarantee you before this decade is over that trend will change. And I WANT to play SEC schools since ya’ll are the BEST; if you want to be the best you have to beat the best. We’ll see.
GO HEELS! COASTAL DIVISION CHAMPS IN ‘08!
By reservoirDAWG
May 23, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. How about the reporting on Jacksonville State?
By Jack G
May 23, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
BLOGGERS
If you cant dazzle them with briliance ——baffle them with BS
Its a sad fact that if you dont have anything to build you up—-you try to up your self esteme by tearing others down.
SEC and ACC are both strong some years up and some years down. ACC is a little down right now but is on the rise.
Be careful of what you say, because words you have to eat dont taste so good
By Jim
May 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
You SEC fans can take your football pride and dispense it elsewhere. Nothing like going to a football game in the fall with 90,000 uneducated toothless, drunken bigots.
By Scott
May 23, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Yeah, the ACC sucks so bad. If I look at the history books, though, a couple of ACC teams have won a national championship since the last time the little Puppies in Athens last held up a national championship trophy.
Yet again, the Puppies bloated sense of self-importance is shoved down our throats. But hey, THIS is their year!!! Yeah right….
By Bravesfan79
May 23, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
At BEST….a ACC champion is fighting for 3rd place! And this is coming from a ACC fan. (also a BIG SEC fan). Until playoffs are added, the national title game is pretty easy to predict.
Ohio State or USC, against the SEC champs. Everyone else is playing for that meaningless Tshirt they like to give away at the end of the season to make all the teams feel good about themselves.
Random teams that can get in include Texas, Cal and Oklohama. No way any other team….even if they go undefeated…will be in the big game! Sorry West Virginia, Sorry Missouri, but your playing for 3rd at best just like the whole ACC!
By reservoirDAWG
May 23, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Jim, a little jealous?
By MK
May 23, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Look at all the ACC haters… You are a first rate MORON if you consider Miami, Florida State, and Virginia Tech pushovers. So they had a down year. Programs tend to do that after years of consistent winning.
I don’t care what happened last year, THERE IS NO TEAM IN THE NATION THAT WOULD PLAY MIAMI, FLA STATE, AND VA TECH AND COME OUT WITHOUT A LOSS!
Big Talkers! Everybody’s a real tough talker until they have to actually play one of these teams. Miami has had its way with the SEC and Big 10 for DECADES. Sure they’ve gotten stomped by some good teams recently, but they have returned the favor on many occasions (haven’t they beat the gators like 6 straight times?)
And as far as second tier goes, Boston College, Virginia, and Ga Tech, are just as good (or bad) as the second tiers such as minnesota, south carolina, kentucky, purdue etc.
So just remember, every dog has its day…and even the sun shines on a dogs a* once in a while.. (those are the only dog related quotes I can remember).. So let your team take advantage of the situation while these ACC teams run through the cycle of down time, but fear not, Miami, FL State and Va Tech are not going away, and they are coming to a town near you to embarrass your favorite team.
By TheBigBone
May 23, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
All of you dog fans are so great just like your team and the sec. Oh man, jablowyourself, godog, underdog, et al, are typical representative of the so called lick nation. You have won one game this year against the feared Rainbow Warriors. What are you going to do when you lose a game? Eveybody knows a bulldog is useless. Even a Gamecock, although small, can sandpaper your butts. Call us back when the dogs win the sec. You ain’t jack. Always will be TheBigBone!!
By Miles
May 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Although it is not the SEC, the ACC is undoubtedly the second best conference in the country. Should a team from the ACC run the table, we’ll see them in the BCS Championship. Right now, it looks like Clemson is the front runner. Go Tigers! Mr. Barnhart, have a safe trip to Destin. I’m eagerly awaiting your observations from the SEC Spring Meetings.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 23, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Haywordblowyourself……Really? When was it that Bammer last won 8 games? When was it that Bammer last Beat UGA? When was it that Bammer last beat Auburn?
Looks to me like all those yahoos that hold up rolls of toilet paper in your stadium on game days are really on to something, because I agree with them that Bammer is s@it. Parole, Tide!!
Rammer, Jammer, Yellowhammer, go to hell, Alabammer!
By DeacinGA
May 23, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
What are you smoking, Tony? There is no way UNC will be vying for anything except the cellar of the Coastal. Butch Davis can’t coach his way out of a paper bag and there is still an entire summer for UNC players to compete with their FSU & UVA brethren for Most Arrested In The Offseason honors. I daresay NC State will be the most improved team in the league…not UNC. No way, no how.
By UnderDawg
May 23, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
BigBone…..Sounds like you are drooling with anticipation at the thought of another Chokin Chicken 6-6 melt-down this season. Oh, and the thought of going to that Poulan Weed-Eater Bowl….Or is it the Vanish Toilet Bowl? Either way, I know The Ole Ball Sack will have you morons thinking that it was an excellent year up in Columbia. BS is what he is best at !
By is the SEC down this year?
May 23, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
SEC=Slightly Educated Conf fans are some of the best fans…they come to the ACC blog to give us laughs. Good dogs! (and Ros ED) You guys remember all those rich pro guys that played in the ACC last few years. Even the Atl guys know where to get a good QB.
By Jim
May 23, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Hey, not sure how Alabama got mixed up in this blog (even Roswell Ed didn’t pipe in). Sure we’ve been down and haven’t won a SEC Championship since ‘99 (no National Championship since ‘92). I do believe we will be competing for both by the end of the decade. We’ll be back and hopefully help the SEC to be that much stronger.
HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND AND ROLL TIDE!
By JIm
May 23, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
ReservoirDAWG, jealous about what? Oh, that I went to a better school then you, but doesn’t have the “football ambience” that UGa does. Nah, can’t say I’m jealous, but thanks for asking!!!
By david
May 23, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
In response to the SEC fan. SEC SEC SEC yawn yawn yawn boring boring boring
By JIm
May 23, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
ReservoirDAWG, jealous about what? Oh, that I went to a better school than you, but doesn’t have the “football ambience” that UGa does. Nope, can’t say I’m jealous, but thanks for asking!!!
By TheBigBone
May 23, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
underwiredog, I could care less what the OBC & Gamecocks do as long as they sandpaper the dogs butt. You & blowyourself need to hook up doggie style. You ain’t jack. Never have been. Never will be. Remember, every girl crazy about TheBigBone Man!!
By reservoirDAWG
May 23, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
Is that a guy named Julian or Rick Flair?
By br
May 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Miles,
The second best conference? Thanks for the laugh.! I nearly spit all my water on my computer screen reading your drivel, I was laughing that hard! There is NO way you’re better than the Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 10, Big East, or even the WAC. Those instant classics on the blue “Smurf Turf” are real yawners to say the least! By the way, when’s the last time you beat a team from the mighty WAC? Then again, who really cares?!
By Jim
May 23, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Miles, Get back to work at your cubicle!!
LOL—if only you took your job as seriously as you take SEC football, my gosh, get a life buddy.
By Joshua Barlowe
May 23, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
How about you write a column:
Top 10 outstanding arrest warrants from the SEC?
SEC schools where football players learn to read (that would be a very short column)?
Top 10 post-football careers for SEC athletes? 1.Cell-mate 2.Fry cook 3.Janitorial arts 4. ….
I’m sure Tony can complete the rest.
By Rob
May 23, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Well, it looks like the Georgia fans are done picking up the trash today.
By Jason Cyrus Ohanian
May 23, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Howdy y’all As a veteran, I just wanted to thank you for your mention of what this weekend is really about and how proud I am of the coaches who went to Iraq. Richt really is a class act as he went from a mission trip in South America to Iraq to cheer up our troops. As someone who has been deployed many times, we were always so happy to see folks take the time and effort to come over and cheer us up. God bless y’all and please say some extra prayers for our troops in harms way. Hook ‘Em
By UGA Fan
May 23, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Hey, I’m here to bash the ACC. I have tons of time because my boss (a Tech graduate) just fired me. ACC Sucks!!!
By TheBigBone
May 23, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
The dog fans are to stupid to pick up trash. They are like the majority of the useless population who contend they are owed something or needs the Government to support them. They want to be a winner, want to be the man, looking for relief in their miserable life, but just cannot do it. As usual, they are typically all mouth from sucking. Always will be TheBigBone!!
By EasyCharlie
May 23, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
The word most used in this thread: “drivel.”
The word that most correctly describes the posts in this thread: “drivel.”
arrrgh!
By Julian
May 23, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
ReservoirDawg, I am a man, what are you? I am a Retired Naval Officer, UNC class of ‘75, BA in American Studies, MA in Human Resources & Management. Living in ATL, and working at Grady in HR. I get tired of this sec holier than thou, better than you, etc. and felt compelled to respond. DeacinGA, what are you smoking? Two years of good football at Wake and you are downing UNC? I guarantee you we’ll be good when you are back in the pack, with stait who you are trumpeting. Before you throw stones about arrests, look at your own program’s QB for good behavior. These things go in cycles, we and the ACC will be back on top. GO HEELS! COASTAL DIVISION CHAMPS IN ‘08!
By War Eagle
May 23, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
The last two times my Tigers faced Tech from the “weak ACC” we lost. Thank god we get to play UGa instead of Tech every year.
By Roswell Ed
May 23, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
I would also like to give a big Hee Haw salute to our fine men and women who have served our great country.
SAAA-LUTE!!!
I appreciate you giving us a chance to vote against an American hater and the self loathing party that would nominate him.
Sit down with Iran-that’s funny!!
You don’t talk with Charles Manson you moron. You kill him before he kills you!!
Free Wheelin again..
By PTC
May 23, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Nevermind the fact the ACC has had more first round picks in the NFL draft than any other confernce in college football since 2000.
Lets not lose sight of the fact some of your SEC kids can’t even get into ACC schools.
ACC - 69 SEC - 58
By Shawn
May 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
The SEC fans will see what we ACC fans are talking about when Clemson beats the hell out of Alabama.
By TheBigBone
May 23, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Well stated Julian, Sir, all expect for the Heels.
To those who have served, to those of who are serving,, and especially those who have given their lives for our freedom, I not only salute you but thank you and your families.
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
To Hell With georgia
By Spike
May 23, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Julian.. Wow. All that fancy UNC education and you write “…with stait you are trumpeting.” What is that about? Not only that, but you still don’t know anything about football, do you?
By godawg
May 23, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…Howdy Nurse Cratchett! I gets mighty sleepy when I lays on the front porch lap’in Red Stripe. I’ll try to contribute more but girly football don’t excites me much…burp…scratch, scratch scatch…lick, lick…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
When FSU and Miami show up at 4 and 5 you have problems. More So when Clemson/Wake is the headline matchup. Taking nothing away from Clemson, but WF is not a National drawing power. Unfortuantely when you think of Wake you think of years of futility, not a couple of recent decent seasons.
The ACC may have had plenty of individual stars,but the last time I checked it takes a team to when the Title.
GO SEC! GOOO DAWGS!!!
By PTC
May 23, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Man I need a SEC education. I didn’t realize that all of these facts are true ….. then I looked them up.
By ugauga
May 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Who cares….they will be playing for the right to get spanked in the Peach Bowl…..by the SEC…again
Since the ACC/SEC has played in the Peach the ACC owns the overall head to head 8-7
The SEC has 1 school in the top 50 colleges and universities. (vandy doesn’t count, everyone has to have a token).
I’ve talked to a few of your estemed SEC football grads and I don’t think they can spell SEC.
By Worthless SEC fans
May 23, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the article Tony, can’t wait until August. For you idiots who don’t know the divisions in the ACC, it’s pretty easy.
Coastal:
Virigina - Virginia Tech Duke - UNC Miami - Tech
Wow that was tough.
The SEC is top heavy, always has been, always will be. Just recently Georgia has gone from middle of the pack to the top so they can finally act like they are playing with the big boys Florida, Tennessee, and LSU. Last year Virginia Tech was more in the National Championship picture than Georgia. We all know FSU’s dominance that will never be matched again (13 straight top 5 finishes). SEC have been a good three year run while Miami and FSU have been down, but even some of you idiot SEC fans can see that Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Miami are on the rise again. UNC and Tech are rebuilding. Top to bottom the ACC is probably the second best conference.
By the way all-time bowl winning percentages by conference: Tie for first between ACC and SEC at 52.7 %.
By reservoirDAWG
May 23, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Julian, are you sure you’re not Mike Gundy? I’m a man, seriously though, I appreciate your service to this great country.
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 23, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Worthless,
Is Miami up or Down? Also, Georgia has been on the rise since at least 2002. Whats that…like 6 years now? Good job.
Also how many years has Tommy Bowden had the best team in the ACC and not been able to close the deal.
Va Tech an upper tier ACC team manhandled by UGA in the Peach Bowl.
Great post. I must say!
GOOO DAWGS! Champions of the ACC….
What are we going for this year 8,9 straight over Tech?
By Brady
May 23, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
Miami is down on its way up, isn’t that what I said?
Georgia has been on the rise since 2002, I agree, but that’s pretty recent history in the grand scheme of things, historically they are middle of the pack SEC.
In regards to Tommy Bowden…that’s why they play the game…again, what’s your point?
Didn’t Georgia have to make a late 4th quarter comeback to beat Virginia Tech? I wouldn’t call that manhandling. Congratulations the #3 team in the SEC beat the #3 team in the ACC.
I believe it’s seven straight over Tech, which hurts, but as long as it doesn’t get to 15 out of the last 17 then I guess it won’t hurt as bad as you feel against Florida.
By TheBigBone
May 23, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Go Brady!!
By Dorsey Hill
May 23, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
The Sun Belt Conference may have a more compelling game than Wake v. Clempson. When Wake is involved in the biggest game of the year then your conference really blows.
Paul Johnson may yet win a conference title. I mean how hard could it be? Gailey got ‘em to the Championship game and to hear the Jackets he’s the worst coach in history. Keep in mind though, Tech can win the ACC, but they can’t beat UGA. We may be starting a Notre Dame v. Navy type streak.
UGA 7, Nerds 0
SEVEN.
That’s gotta hurt. What I think is most enjoyable is the keeping you in the game, giving you hope and then…. That’s better than the 51-7 beatdown in ‘02.
By gators
May 23, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Hey Tech,
Let a gator fan handle these mutt fans for you. UGA, what team has owned you the past 20 years??? Oh, that’s right, UF. Your streak over GT is nothing compared our streak over you.
See you in a few months…
By TigerFan
May 23, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
We’ll see if this is the year for my Clemson Tigers or if they’re just one big tease as always. C’mon Tigers!
By SanDiegoJacket
May 23, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
You Ugagers
What I wonder is why you can’t understand that we are so above you. We’re elitists for good reason.
You folks are just the flotsam and jetsum of life. We don’t like you, we don’t respect you and you continually remind us by your spelling and grammar just how ignorant you are.
I have fired 14 Ugagers in my company…I gave them a good severence….but I told them they were not productive in the company they were just hangers’ on.
So you little doggies, we will still fire you and set you aside because as Forrest Gump said…
“You’re just Stupid, stupid stupid!!”
THWG Every Day and in Every Way!!!
By reservoirDAWG
May 23, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
San Diego, that is the biggest load I’ve ever heard. Get back to your cubicle and write some more programs. Douchebag.
By tech-hater
May 23, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
I am sure BigBone felt a bone up his a$$ during his tickle-pile excursions at Tech. Better yet, BigBine, why dont you use that bone to go f**k yourself.
By UnderDawg
May 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Hey gators…..Has Tebow stopped filing police reports for assault every time he sees a large black man with dreadlocks closing in on him yet? What was that? I think I heard him getting sacked again ! Handle UGA? Like you did last year?
By Deacon Jones
May 23, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
This will be hard for the boorish SEC dolts on this blog to understand, but there’s something really special about an underdog school rising up to compete with and beat the big, entitled programs, who have every advantage over that school:
Even if the glory is relatively small and far between, I’ll take the road less traveled, where the joy is pure and my integrity is intact.
Go Wake!
By mexdawg
May 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Hey by gators why don’t you check out the record.The DAWGS own your a*.Over the years we’ve beaten the gators like a red headed step child.What you got last year was just a taste of things to come.We’ll be dancing in your end zone again this year.Get use to it.Without coach Stevie visor you guys are washed up.WHOSE THAT COMING DOWN THE TRACK….YEA YOU KNOW and it’s coming right at you.
By Gator Nation
May 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
ACC fans aren’t posting because the have jobs!
Yes I’m an SEC fan and I think the SEC week in and week out is the most exciting conference in the nation, but the arrogance of my brethren is sad. I love football. All football. I would give my eye-teeth to watch a good college football game from any conference right now instead of stupid ole baseball, hockey and the NBA.
By Cuz
May 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
If we don’t play the Pac 10 or the Big 11 we get ragged we don’t play a decent out of conference schedule. If we schedule an ACC team, we get ragged. Face it, the Dawgs will get hammered for whomever we play out of conference unless it is Ohio State, Michigan, Texas or Okie homie.
I have no problem with the ACC, I am a SEC fan first but can still enjoy a “good” ACC game. No vitriol here. We will see how good the ACC is when Clemson plays Bammer.
By gators
May 23, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
mexdawg, you have lost your mind. We own UGA and you know it. Kudos to you all last year. The sun shines on a dogs *ss every once and awhile. The game will be back to normal this year. UF kicking your butts up and down the field.
You had your chance last year to play for the NC but failed to beat Spurrier (not suprising) and got blown out by Fat Phil. God its gotta suck being a UGA fan.
By Dorsey Hill
May 23, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
SanDiegoJacket,
Questions for the pee-colored genuis:
Can you count to 7?
Why are you losing to dumb people?
Is being smart better than being a loser?
If you were in a fight would you challenge to person to a math contest and then get your butt kicked?
Do you yet realize that the world is run by liberal arts graduates who hire people like you to do things we don’t want to do, like get my copier working again?
Name the last engineer to be President? (hint: Jimmy Carter) How’d that turn out?
If you were a boxer and you just got knocked-out for the seventh time in a row would you hand your opponent your report card and say “how about this!?”
Do you realize how sad that is? Are you smart enough to know that saying ‘yeah we’re losers but I got an A in organic chemistry’ just says to the world that you are even bigger losers than the game demonstrated?
What do you say to Duke fans when they kick your butts? (Guess: at least we’re too gay to like strippers.)
Use your brain on that nerd…and GFY.
By Kevin
May 23, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
You know, the ACC is probably the 3rd/4th out of the BCS Conferences. We’re definitely better then the p** poor Big East.
This year, UNC and Georgia Tech SHOULD be a lot better. Boston College will be around 9 to 10 wins. Clemson and V-Tech WILL be good this year (Top 15), Maryland will be… above Average? And Duke, will as always Suck.
By shane #1
May 23, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
1- Jim Grobe has to be one of the country’s best coachs. What He can accomplish with HIs recruits and only 4300 in the student body is amazing! Clemson may be upset here. 2- VT 3- Junior wins again, does Papa have any players left? 4- VT again, Miami isn’t back yet. 5- Clemson should win this one, Junior will blow it!
By Cuz
May 23, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
You gotta love ACC football. Where else can you tailgate at the Cheetah, get food and a drink for your bourbon for free. And watch a Clemson team beat an intellectually superior team, oh yeah the team studies custodial engineering at Georgia State, my bad.
By spike
May 23, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
ACC fans.. It is really sad when you guys are woofin’ about how BAAAAD UNC is going to be this year. Thank you for proving the point that the ACC hasn’t got much to brag about.
By br
May 23, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
PTC,
You say the ACC is 8-7 vs. the SEC in the Peach Bowl, eh? Do you realize that The ACC sends it’s #2 to face the #5 SEC team…and you’re still only 8-7? Dude, that’s pathetic, wouldn’t you say?! Nice try!
By Joe Hamilton - A Tech Man
May 23, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
I think Mr. College Football included a GT game in his second group of 5 important games just because he is writing for the Atlanta newspaper and his editors made him do so.
Tech should play every game on Thursday night because only real college football should be played on Saturdays.
By AltamahaDawg
May 23, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this
What I get a kick out of is how self-proclaimed intellectually superior folks struggle to come up with anything more in these forums other than to parrot some slight they read from an last imbecile.
By ricknole
May 23, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this
Why is it that the first 10 comments were from SEC fans??
Obviously you guys need to get a life or a JOB or something geez…..Just pure ACC hate without anyone from an ACC school even saying anything.
Kinda ruined the “real” college football talk here.
By Nashville
May 23, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this
All you Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn and Florida grads better get back to work before your UNC, Duke and GA Tech-educated bosses find out you’ve been spending all day surfing the web.
By is the SEC down this year?
May 23, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
Hello Horsey Hill(billy)…I’m old enough to remember when Tech beat uGa every year for eight-in-a-row.
By bbtick
May 23, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
Tony, sending my thanks from southern Virginia for your article. I have stated before that I think VT and Clemson will meet in Tampa for the title with Clemson being a pretty strong favorite. If my Hokies can wade though trips to Lincoln, Tallahasse, and Miami with only 1-loss, we should be able to slip into the Sugar Bowl as an at-large if we can not topple the Tigers. Ok, just two remarks about the ACC, but I will be brief since its a holiday weekend and I’m anxious to get it started…
1.) The ACC’s performance in the first 10 years of the BCS has been very well publicized in the last few weeks, so I don’t need to go back through the stats. OH, by the way, we have been doing pretty crappy in the Peach Bowl as well, which pits our 2nd place team against the SEC 5th (which is actually the 6th, if the SEC gets an at-large to the BCS)…OUCH! BUT!…the ACC is a better league than it was 10 years ago, when it was FSU and the 8 dwarfs. Think about, FSU and Miami are down right now (and will probably not return to form until 2009 or 2010), but Clemson, Maryland, Wake Forest, and Boston College are all better than they were 10 years ago. North Carolina has a chance to have a very good program, but I doubt it will ever be great…there probably is just not enough room in Chapel Hill for two giants, and besides, history indicates that Butch Davis will probably not be there that long.
2.) Virginia Tech and Clemson have the oppurtunity to become the face of the ACC. Florida State and Miami will get better but there is no reason that VT and Clemson can not finish 1st or 2nd in their divisions EVERY year. Here is where I would rank the 12 ACC programs right now and/or for the near future:
Power Programs…
Good programs…it gets a little muddled in here, you could probably shuffle these rankings up a little.
Bad Programs
The ACC is not the SEC and never will be. However, that does not mean that we can not be better than the PAC-ONE, Big 10+1, Big 8+4, and the Big Easy. We’re working on it…give us a little more time.
By Cuz
May 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
Get back to work, heck I am the boss. Have you ever heard of multi-tasking.
By SC RULES!!
May 23, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
bbtick;
PAC ONE; I like that!
shane#1;
Coach Carroll called and reminded me to win with class not to be an a$$. How was the pool?
Gator fan;
Great comment earlier on the overall state of most of the posts. Yes mine included last week.
By Gen (Buford T. Justice) Neyland
May 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this
AltDawg
I resemble that imbecile remark…(Tom Smothers)
Techies, One and All
Congrats on making TB’s Honorable Mention Selection in the ACC games of game…toot your horn…rah
By Gen Neyland
May 23, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this
…and as the bewitching hour draws near, it’s BuLLdawg time.
By Andrew Cox
May 24, 2008 2:57 AM | Link to this
Go, Tar Heels. F*** the rest!
By Andrew Cox
May 24, 2008 3:15 AM | Link to this
Go, Tar Heels. F*** everybody else!
By Andrew Cox
May 24, 2008 3:15 AM | Link to this
Go, Tar Heels. F*** everybody else!
By Scully
May 24, 2008 3:16 AM | Link to this
Go, Tar Heels. F*** everybody else!
By #1 College Football fan
May 24, 2008 6:49 AM | Link to this
well i was #1, till i figured out it was nothing more than a overhyped beauty pagent with a TERRIBLE ending.
At least with a real pagent you get to see some T@A….this pagent sucks, im switching to NFL. GO FALCONS and BRAVES!!
By Mike
May 24, 2008 7:01 AM | Link to this
Well, the SEC sure can be proud of its fans intellectual abilities based on these comments!! Whew, what a bunch of idiots! Personally, I vote that we dispense with all the nonsense and the charade of the SEC athletes getting a “college education” and just go ahead and set up a minor league system independent of the universities involved. It would be more honest, and then you SEC types wouldn’t have to worry about your sorry a* programs being put on NCAA probation so often !!
By meatlake
May 24, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
LMAO, Yeah, let’s go to a GT football game. I’m sure the players love all the support from that rabid Techie fan base that sells out every home game…Oh, and don’t even get me started on all the beautiful co-eds that are walking around these sold out football games. It’s unfortunate for the bug faithful that the highlight of their football games include whether or not “Flag Boy” dropped his flag during the halftime show…If “Flag Boy” dropped his flag during his halftime performance and no one was around to hear it, would it still make a sound??? Solid hire/fire in that Joe Hamilton. You Techies crack me up. It’s not be a rivalry if the same team wins every year. The ACC is a basketball conference… Face it. 31-17…
By Haywood Jablowme
May 24, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
You “own” UGA only if you don’t count any of the UGA / UF results from before 1990. But, then, again, thats all UF can be proud of from their football program…..what happened after 1990. Before that, you were a 3rd tier program at best.
By E
May 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Mr. Barnhart, You can’t even write an ACC column without mentioning the SEC at least three times in the opening paragragh. Please just call you blog “Mr. SEC Football” and stop pretending to care about any other league. Your so-called list says it all.
By JIMMY JOHNSON
May 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
EVERYBODY TALKING SMACK ABOUT THE ACC REMEMBER THIS….THE 2001 PEACH/CHICK FILA BOWL WAS A MATCHUP OF NORTH CAROLINA VS AUBURN. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED ? CAROLINA WON !!! AUBURN WILL NEVER FORGET RONALD CURRY !!!
By Get real
May 24, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
“You know, the ACC is probably the 3rd/4th out of the BCS Conferences. We’re definitely better then the p** poor Big East.”
ACC fans are strong on bravado but weak on facts. There is absolutely nothing that supports the argument that the ACC is better than the Big East. Quite the contrary, the ACC split its games with the Big East last year to go 4-4. The year before the Big East had a winning record over the ACC. Moreover, the Big East has won 3 BCS bowls in a row. The ACC hasn’t won a BCS bowl since 1999. One of the Big East’s BCS bowl wins came against the SEC Champion. Not only has the ACC Champion gone a big O-fer against the SEC Champion in BCS bowl games, last year the ACC Champion got absolutely demolished by the SEC Champion during the regular season.
The facts suggest that the ACC is a second rate football conference that cannot compete at the elite BCS level. Its ironic that ACC fans are so pompous about their intellect but have absolutely nothing to back up their arguments.
By SEC Fan
May 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
When we talk about the Peach Bowl and the close record since inception (with a lot of great games over the years), no one seems to bring up the fact that the game pairs the ACC #2 team vs. the SEC 4th or 5th choice.
Seems about right as the series is very even. Goes to show you how these conferences compare over the past 10 or so years.
By techjacket
May 24, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Hey dawgs, when is the last time you won a National Championship? How about 28 years ago!! STFU
By DeaconNation
May 24, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
SEC fans are such f-ing crybabies. Good Lord, I’d love a shot at one of your overhyped programs. After Clemson beats the crap out of Alabama, you’ll come up with some excuse…then your top dog will lose to KY, or some other crappy team, and the chorus will be “Good Lord, look at how good Kentucky is!” What a joke. The only thing the SEC is best at is recruiting violations.
By Julian
May 24, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Love this banter. Spike, for your edification (UNC education word!) I’m gonna put in a link I found so you can see UNC vs SEC, which is the only one I personally care about. Of course, I’m sure you’ll want to verify what I’m writing so, enjoy!
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/divia/acc/northcarolina/vsconfopponents.php?confid=177
By tech-hater
May 24, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Tech-jacket…..when was the last time YOU won a title that wasn’t contested, shared, or given to you because someone won a game on a 5th DOWN play? At least our last title was UNDISPUTED. What did you win prior to 1990? Why don’t you go to your drawing board and try to figure out a way to beat the likes of Fresno St…….when you can beat a WAC team and stop embarrassing the state in your bowl games, we’ll talk.
By famous_bt8
May 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
DeaconNation - Overhyped programs? The reality of the matter is the league has won three of the last five national championships (two in a row),and probably should have had a shot at another when 13-0 Auburn was shut our of the BCS title game in 04. Oh yeah, our overhyped teams have won all 4 of it’s BCS games in the past two years by a combined score of 161-62. We have the most rabid fans, best game day atmosphere, and dare I say, the most speed? So, Mr. Deacon, before you go vomiting off at the mouth, do a little research. How did that Orange Bowl work out for you against almighty Louisville? How did Clemson fare against Auburn in the Peach Bowl? And they are your best team? Please. Maybe you should point the finger the other way…
By famous_bt8
May 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
DeaconNation - Overhyped programs? The reality of the matter is the league has won three of the last five national championships (two in a row),and probably should have had a shot at another when 13-0 Auburn was shut our of the BCS title game in 04. Oh yeah, our overhyped teams have won all 4 of it’s BCS games in the past two years by a combined score of 161-62. We have the most rabid fans, best game day atmosphere, and dare I say, the most speed? So, Mr. Deacon, before you go vomiting off at the mouth, do a little research. How did that Orange Bowl work out for you against almighty Louisville? How did Clemson fare against Auburn in the Peach Bowl? And they are your best team? Please. Maybe you should point the finger the other way…
By Laughing at ACC fans
May 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
The ACC moron talks about overhyped SEC teams and then starts pumping up….CLEMSON, the very definition of overhyped. Clemson is the posterchild of the All Choke Conference. You’d be hard pressed to find a team that has gotten as much pub as Clemson for accomplishing absolutely NOTHING. There isn’t a bigger overhyped choke artist in the nation.
By ShutUpMutt
May 24, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
Hey SEC fans, no one asked you for your opinion. If you think the ACC sucks keep it to yourself. The rest of us like our conference and we’ll probably have more NFL-worthy players in the end, just like the last few years.
By Zeb
May 24, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Hey YELLOWJACKETS REQUIRED, where are you at son???? Cuz, I can’t believe you haven’t called him out based on the idiocy he spewed a few days ago…..wait a minute, that’s exactly why you haven’t retorted, because he is a freakin liberal idiot who knows nothing about reality. Bring it on moron, I’ll give you all you want pu$$y.
By hj
May 24, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
ACC Tech has whipped sec auburn the last two times they played. The ACC has had a winning record versus the sec for 4 out of the past 5 years. sec grads are only good at politics and thats at a low level cause self important hype works but in business its cold hard facts and you boys just dont cut it.
By Cuz
May 24, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
Zeb read my 5/23 post after 5. I think it says it all about Jacket intramural sports. Good to hear from you.
By College Fan
May 24, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
Question: When was the last time a Tech football team won a national championship?
Answer: Never.
Tech has only won CO-national championships.
By ShutUpMutt
May 24, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this
Hey College Fan, ANSWER: we have 5 national championships. 4 of them undisputed. I’m guessing you’re not a GA fan or you’d sound REALLY stupid seeing as how the last NC they got was in the 80s.
Keep talking. You prove the point that the SEC is full of idiots.
By famous_bt8
May 24, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
ShutUpMutt - for the love of God, don’t come on a blog talking trash about Ga Tech football to UGA fans. The last time your “team” won, Clinton was president. UGA owns your sorry, pathetic excuse for a football team. They will destoy them this year. It will be a beatdown of epic proportions. You know it, I know it, and everyone on this blog knows it. So shut your mouth, don’t talk football with the dawg fans until your “team” can grow some balls, man up, and “Finish the Drill”. Tech football is the laughing stock of the state you freaking moron. Go play with your protractor. Or win a football game before anyone will take you seriously.
By shane #1
May 24, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this
SCRules, The pool was great but I am now at the beach. My GF and I arrived Thursday night. The beach is much better than the pool, the scenery here is great, and the ocean doesn’t look bad either. Take care Bud, and listen for the Coach, beer has made My reception a little fuzzy. Cuz, Gen, Zeb, and all You regulars, I will be thinking about football again Tuesday, maybe! ‘Till then, enjoy the Holliday, but please take a moment to remember what