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DEL.ICIO.USWhy can’t ACC play championship in ATL?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Cleaning out the notebook after the end of the ACC meetings:
1. So why can’t the ACC championship game be in Atlanta? I got a lot of people asking this question the other day. The answer is that the ACC would dearly LOVE to play its championship football game in Atlanta. And the folks at the Atlanta Sports Council have pitched every kind of workable plan to them. But here’s the problem. The SEC controls the Dome, a lot of the World Congress Center and all of the surrounding property for its game and there is no way they are letting the ACC crash their party. That wouldn’t make business sense. So the ACC’s only option, if it wanted to play in Atlanta, would be to play its game on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. That can’t happen because three of the teams—Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Clemson—play their rivalry games on that Saturday. The ACC schools could move those games but the SEC requires its teams to play their last regular-season games on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
The ACC can’t play on Monday night after championship Saturday because the BCS pairings come out on Sunday. So until the SEC pulls out of Atlanta—and that’s not going to happen—the ACC will continue to look for a location that works.
2. Tampa to lower ticket prices: The ACC championship game had mixed results in its first three years in Jacksonville. The first game between Florida State and Virginia Tech in 2005 drew 72,749. The second game between Georgia Tech and Wake Forest drew a crowd that was generously estimated at 62,850. Last year’s game between Boston College and Virginia Tech drew 53,212. So the ACC is going to give Tampa the game for the next two seasons followed by Charlotte in 2010 and 2011. The first thing Tampa got the opportunity to do is cut ticket prices. An upper deck seat to this season’s championship game on Dec. 6 will be only $25. For non-students, the cheapest seat to the three games in Jacksonville was $70. Tampa’s Raymond James Stadium seats 65,857. The ACC will also be more involved in marketing the game. The league has decided that it will be willing to make a little less money in order to get the game to a sellout or near a sellout. That’s a smart decision.
3. The nine-game conference schedule will come up again: The coaches shot down the idea and this time the athletics director went along. But in two years the ACC will have to renegotiate its television packages and, like all conferences, it will be looking for a raise. The TV boys have told all the conferences that if they want more money they need a better inventory of games over the entire schedule. The coaches will remain adamantly against it but next time around it may not matter.
“We were against adding a 12th regular season game and you see how that turned out,” one coach said to me.
4. NCAA puts bowls on notice: The NCAA sent out an interesting letter to all the bowls last week. The letter essentially said that while the NCAA has certified 34 bowls for next season, that certification does not guarantee that a team will be available for any bowl. It is a pre-emptive move by the NCAA to ward off litigation in case there aren’t enough teams with at least six wins to fill the bowls. Some of the bowl execs I talked to want to know: “If you were worried about having enough teams, why did you certify two more bowls?”
This could get nasty. Right now a bowl cannot take a team unless it has a 6-6 record or better. This December a bowl could be in a situation where it has to petition the NCAA for a waiver to take a 5-7 team. If that happens the NCAA will get hammered in the court of public opinion. And it should.
5. Bye-bye Boise! What about San Fran? The ACC’s relationship with the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise was essentially over in 2005 when a luncheon held for both teams basically turned into a Boise State pep rally. Boston College didn’t need any more motivation to beat Boise State 27-21 in a game that was not that close. The coaches said it made no sense to take an ACC team that far from home to play a WAC team in a WAC stadium. And they were right.
So the No. 8 team from the ACC will play in either Mobile, Ala. (GMAC) or Washington, D.C. (Congressional) starting in 2009. So what about the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco, which gets the No. 7 ACC team? Now that the Congressional Bowl is on line, it’s time to quit sending a 7-5 or 6-6 team to the West Coast. Lock that team into D.C. and give the fans and the parents of the players a chance to drive and see it.
Comments
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 15, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
1) Good for the SEC for sticking up for the conference. The SEC went out on a limb in 1992 and took the big risk. The ACC should not be able to now raise there hands and say, now you gotta let me play.
2) 65,000 thousand at the Tech-WF game. You are right in saying it was being REALLY generous. By like 40,000! The game should be in Charlotte.
3) Extend the ACC season by one game. Make all the teams play each other and the final game e the rivalry game. I would be in favor of the same thing in the SEC.
4) The bowls are a joke. Outside of the Chick-Fil-a Bowl, Holiday Bowl and Cotton Bowl outside of the BCS games who really cares? To many mediocore bowls with mediocore teams.
5) The orginal idea was probably to expose more of the nation to ACC schools, but why would you want the West Coast to see your 7th best product? Changing that was long overdue. And now Tech might not have a bowl to go to in the future!
GOOO DAWGS!!!
By Miles
May 15, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
Other than the BCS bowl games, what do all of the remaining college football bowl games mean?
By Miles
May 15, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Other than the BCS Bowls, what do all of the remaining bowl games mean?
By Dick Rod
May 15, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
5) Funny, when my boys get sent way out yonder, the pitch is “Take a vacation and see another part of this fabulous country!” It’s really sad that the ACC or any conference would be afraid to match up with one of the “minor” conferences. Everyone would love to be able to drive to a bowl game, but it ain’t gonna happen.
By chris
May 15, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
10 12 team leagues and they play everyone in the league to get a champion then a bowl play off with the best records and power rankings. no new bowls.
By 82DAWG
May 15, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
There are too many bowl games, but no one makes you watch them. And why should it upset anyone? It doesn’t take any food off of my table or make my girlfriend or son care for me any less (unless I watch these games :) ).
By chris
May 15, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Atlanta needs to force the SEC to Share the Weekend. ACC & SEC two days in the Dome with people from all over the south and preparing for the “Peach Bowl” Chicken Bowl. It would be great for both leagues. The SEC is afraid that the ACC schools will steal their recruits? Make the GREATEST FOOTBALL WEEKEND IN THE HISTORY of COLLEGE/ NCAA sports. It would compared to the NCAA BAsketball Turny.
By uvaeer
May 15, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Great call to drop Boise, but I think San Fran should still be an ACC bowl (maybe drop to #8). It’s a good matchup cross-sectional matchup in a city accessible by flight. ACC teams don’t play PAC-10 teams ever.
By JJ
May 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Miles, Bowl games outside the BCS reward teams with another game, a special trip and a chance to practice for 3-4 more weeks. Most of them are usually fun to watch. Also something else to gamble on if you are so inclined.
Next brady, try a spell checker or proof read your posts. You are making your school look bad.
If a school elects to go to a bowl game with a 6-6 record and loses, they should not be allowed to be invited to a bowl the next year regardless of their record.
By P-dex
May 15, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
For a conference that prides itself for it’s academics, it sure is strange to see that the ACC officials can’t count. I’ve seen high school football games with more people than the last two ACC “championships.” There is no way there were more than 20,000 at either of the last two games unless their fans were dressed up in blue chair costumes.
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 15, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
JJ,
Sorry for the typing and I will try harder next time. Please sir, may I have some more gruel?
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 15, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
JJ,
That was an Oliver Twist reference incase you night not understand.
By Dave-SD
May 15, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
The ACC championship game needs to be played in the Carolinas, where most of their fanbase can drive to the game. Playing in a city whose most famous college football legacy is an SEC game (Jax) or a the home stadium of a Big East team (Tampa) doesn’t do anything for the ACC long term.
By gatorhead1013
May 15, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Sorry Chris but the SEC certainly doesn’t fear a weak conference like the ACC. The SEC would gain nothing by allowing the inferior ACC into ATL that weekend.
“The greatest football weekend in the history of college sports”? More like two titans with a junior varsity match-up thrown in.
By Gen Neyland
May 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
re : 4) At 6—6, some seniors will vote not to go bowling if given the opportunity to have a say. Coaches want that extra practice time for the coming season. I’ll side with the seniors but understand the coaches motives. The Who-Gives-A-Rats-Rearend Bowl played around December 18th by 6—6 teams just doesn’t grab me, but it means something to somebody…Even if it’s UT, I’d probably rather watch Leave it to Beaver reuns…
By Why play in Atl
May 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Tony, why would the ACC dearly love to play in Atlanta? You state it like it is fact, but that seems a stretch of a statement from an Atlanta/SEC-centric person. Atlanta has great facilities and a large population, but is SEC country. Charlotte seems the natural choice (within a 4 hour drive of 7 of the 12 ACC schools).
By Pago Flyer
May 15, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Most bowl games will not decide the National Champion…but the other bowls are fun for everybody and we enjoy going. Sure helps the local economy….
By azcat225
May 15, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Jack Crowe was obviously a very, very desperate man.
By R
May 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
The CONGRESSIONAL BOWL?!?!?! Youre kidding me right? Who would want to play a bowl game in DC in an open air stadium in JANUARY?!?!?
By BJ
May 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
I that that the No. 8 ACC team should play a team from the Sun Belt in a bowl game. Right now the Sun Belt only has one bowl game, that’s the New Orleans Bowl. I would be nice get another bowl slot. Troy was went 8-5 last was not picked for a bowl game. They had a tough schedule against UGA, Florida, Arkansas, and Oklahoma State. Troy played tough against each of these teams even beat Oklhoma State.
By Professor Dan
May 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
People will fill Jacksonville for the right game (ever heard of Ga-Fla? or Alabama-FSU last year). The problem with the ACC games the last couple of years was having participants whose fans don’t travel (GaTech, Wake, and Boston College). Having it in Tampa, Atlanta, New Orleans, or on the Vegas strip wouldn’t make any difference.
By blazerpunter
May 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
One thing you guys are forgetting about the attendance at the ACC Championship games is that they are counting ticket sales and not necessarily counting bodies in the seats.
And to add to the conversation, I think that is a bigger indictment on the game being in Jax, the fact that 50K+ tickets were sold to the last 2 games and not nearly that many people actually turned out for the game. Interest in the teams and/or dissatisfaction with the location sure seams to be the reason why people didn’t show up. I agree the game needs to be played farther north. What about the Titan’s stadium in Nashville or Panther’s stadium? Much more central locations and would give more fans and people with an interest in the game an opportunity to attend. Unless FSU or Miami are in the game, I can’t see a whole lot of people making a fairly long journey to see VT or Boston College play in FL.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
I assume you are suggesting this in case Tech gets in the game? PFFFFFT !! WHATEVER!! They had their chance against Wake, and typically choked like the crap team they are.
The Georgia Dome doesn’t need any more teams that suck to play there. They already have the Falcons, and that’s enough “suck” to cover the entire state. So….please do us a favor, Georgia Dome officials and NEVER allow a conference that sucks to play their championship game there. If they can’t sell in the old Gator Bowl, they sure as hell can’t break any attendance records in the Dome. The high school play-offs do better than the ACC title game would.
By Bamafan
May 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Hey General, I would rather watch Andy and Barney Fife than watch Bama in a bowl game with a 6-6 record. The TN Titans were playing the Colts the same night, when Bama played in the weedeater bowl in December last year and guess what I watched the Titans game instead. General, the Titans are my favorite pro team to pull for!! ROLL TIDE!!
By KR
May 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
I’ve given it some thought, and I can probably only name about 10 or 12 of the 34 “certified” bowls (whatever that means…). I can generally sum up the remaining 22-24 of them by calling them the “Who Cares Bowl” or the “Toilet Bowl.”
IMO, a team should not be bowl eligible unless they have a 7-5 or better record. Pushing that to 8-4 would be better still. If that causes the demise of some of the bottom feeder bowls, I doubt anyone would even notice.
WAR EAGLE!
By gt fan
May 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
trailer park anyone?
it is abudantly clear why the sec does so well attendance wise year in an year out in the bowls.
the majority of sec fans are sidewalk fans. fans either too stupid or too poor to get into college… or both. these folks tend to live in trailers in this part of the country… ask 20oz bulldog.
when they do the live tv pan of the crowd’s at sec bowl games the majority of folks are toothless … or inbred. you see all these folks cheering for the dogs and the tigers etc and many don’t have teeth.
i had buckeye friends who went to the lsu theosu game an they said ‘never again’. the sec fans were not only red necked in the extreme but they cursed like sailors and did not exhibit any class.
of course us gt fans knew that to be the case because we have to go to athens every other year. where else can you walk into a stadium an get p** on by a drunken dawg. where else can you see drunken fans woofing an crawling around on all fours.
only in sec country…..
By UnderDawg
May 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Get ready to see a 6-6 Bama team in a bowl, because that prediction sounds about right for the 08 season.
By JJ
May 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Let’s not forget another driver in having too many bowls…..ESPN. Even with 20,000 people in the stands and two teams with 7 or less wins they can make money on a game at 8pm on a weeknight.
The ACC championship game should be in Charlotte, the heart of the league. Not Florida, not Georgia. Tickets should be economical. Unless Miami or FSU is in the game, Tampa will be a bust.
By shane #1
May 15, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
1 & 2-I agree with some earlier posts that the game should be played in Panther stadium. Tampa would be an even longer drive for fans from VT and BC. I don’t think reduced ticket prices will help, except to bring in more locals. The only way I see a game selling out in Tampa is for FSU or Miami to be playing. Many ACC teams have a reputation for not traveling well and the long distances don’t help. The ACC needs to do a better job of selling Their CG. 3- TV has the money, money will win every time. 4-There are too many bowls, I don’t watch half of them and I am a football nut. I wish there were only ten bowls for the top twenty teams in the BCS and one bowl for the “mid majors”. 5- Acc teams traveling to Boise was a crazy idea anyway.
By John
May 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
1) While i’d love for the ACC Championship to be in Atlanta, I’d prefer it to be in a little further North (Carolinas or Virginia). 2) Tampa may be a better location, but who would want to take a trip to Jacksonville? After seeing how they hosted the Super Bowl I have had no interest in visiting that town. Now, Miami would be fun. 5) GMAC going up in the world? May be interesting to stay with the family an extra weekend than to catch a decent bowl game. I wish they had named it the Azalea Bowl or the Mystic Bowl instead of the Mobile, AL Bowl. All they wanted was for some company to buy the name!
By Dawg 'n IT
May 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Since UGA won the SEC Men’s Basketball Championship on Tech’s campus, can UGA sell the ACC rights to have their football championship game at Sanford Stadium? LOL, UGA can take that money and build whatever practice facilities they want without debt.
By mdawg
May 15, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
The ACC has a Championship Game? For What?
By DearingStDawg
May 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
GT fan,
When you’re insulting the intelligence of a group of people, you should probably use proper capitalization and grammar. I guess that’s what my SEC education has taught me…
By Price
May 15, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Look, the ACC had no business having the Championship game in Jacksonville. Jacksonville is SEC territory. The Dome is ACC Territory. GA Tech is right down the street and NOT ANYWHERE NEAR A SEC TEAM. The nearest team is UGA but thats 3 hours away. The SEC can move to Jacksonville or Tennessee
By Call it Like it is
May 15, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Who cares what UGAY does?
NOT ME!!!
Enough Said!
By gimmeabreak
May 15, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
You guys need to pull your heads out of your a**es…Atlanta may be the epicenter of the SEC, but it is NOT the center of the ACC universe.
Charlotte & Tampa make more sense for the ACC. The reason Jax did not pan out is that teams with weak fan bases got in & therefore weak matchups existed. Wake doesn’t have a history of selling out home games, neither does GT. VT has a 12 hour drive and a bowl game to consider…
Jax was chosen when the powers that be thought FSU/Miami would be the annual game - THAT would have easily sold out.
Top 10 teams competing for a BCS berth will sell out wherever the game is played, also rans will not.
Now the ACC needs to find 2 top 10 teams!
By TrueCrimson
May 15, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Judging by the arrogant and condescending comments of gt fan — the championship is probably for peni$ envy.
By MoreBowls
May 15, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Add more bowl games, so that every team with at least 5 wins gets to go to a bowl as a reward for the season. It will make the players play harder during the year. Also, the bowl gifts should be increased to $1,500 per player—-added inducement for the extra practice, since they can’t get paid during the year (except USC players).
By Jojajacket
May 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
The convention bureau should expand Bobby Dodd stadium to 75,000 seats and play the ACC championship game there. Charlotte? sweet little town but certainly not Atlanta. Weather a little unpredictable in Carolina as well.
By Allen
May 15, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Are you kidding that the Boston College Boise State game was not that close?
Boise was on about the 6 yard line about to score with less than a minute left.
The game ended when Zabransky threw a interception in the end zone. If not for that interception Boise wins 27-26. A
For the most part it, there were good matchups. The Wac won three and the ACC won three.
And let’s not kid ourselves. Boston was not the seventh place team. I beleive they were 2nd place in the ACC that year.
They were slighted by the conference bowl affiliates because there fans do not travel.
They were p** about being passed over by your bowl affiliates and were looking for anything to rip on. Kuwanuka is a millionaire now….get over getting his named mispronounced!
It is too bad because we met great fans from Clemsom and Miami. Georgia Tech fans were very classy and they visited the Bowl twice. Iowa State fans were passionate and were extremely classy even when the got beat. I don’t remember much about the Virginia fans but that was one hell of a game against Fresno.
The best traveling fans (not in ACC) were the Louisville fans. They were awesome and brought a loud and passionate travel party.
The BC fans were by far the worst. They b*** and moaned about everything. It is not Boise fault that no other bowl wanted you.
By Broom
May 15, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
How’s this for a fantasy scenario: Play both the ACC and SEC championship in the Dome and match up the champs to settle the conference rivalry.
Top to bottom I’ll put the ACC up against the SEC any day.
Good luck to the bulldogs living up to their hype.
By a lot of losses in '08
May 15, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
After the Dawgs finish 5-7 in ‘08 —they will be one of the schools petitioned as a team with a losing record to go to ao bowl game.
Good luck in ‘08 Dawg Nation —you may not know it now, but you’re gonna need it.
By Gen Neyland
May 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
gt fan
You got me with your opening remark, “trailer park anyone?” You are a prime candidate for my newest creation at The House, my Hillbilly Philly. Thinly sliced road kill, tenderized and seasoned on hot Tennessee asphalt. Loaded up on Goat Head Cheese with sauteed greens and wild onions right out of the backyard. Served on a pan biscuit the size of Texas. Yessiree, you are worthy…
By Reckbert
May 15, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
1 Why the ACC CG was put in FL: $ and IT IS WARMER. 2 Why anyone plays in the GA Dome: Remember playing bowls outside at Atl-FulCo Stadium in the weather? Why not Charlotte: see #2. No Dome.GO JACKETS!!!
By Bob
May 15, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
The ACC needs to worry more about its quality of play than scheduling and where the championship game is played. The ACC has no top teams and is irrelevant on a national scale. Never was this more evident than last year when the ACC champion lost to the SEC champion by 41 points. If they improve on the field the interest will follow. It is as simple as that. Personally I think it starts with coaching. The ACC is the worst coached of all the BCS leagues. The addition of David Cutcliffe and Paul Johnson are a step in the right direction, but those are largely insignificant programs that are limited in what they can do on a football field. Only when FSU and Miami return to prominence will the ACC hold anyone’s attention. That, it appears, may be a long way off.
By mdawg
May 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
The hype is the ACC wanting a big time arena to play there WHO CARES championship. The SEC is bigger, Faster and more tanlented. The reason we behave as we do is that our games have more at stake, thats why your ACC fans are so laid back, the game outcome means nothing. When your playing for the ultimate gaol in college football you get fired up. Anyway, the final word is you guys can go find a High school feild to play on, LOL selling even those venues out.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 15, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Why does the ACC even HAVE a championship game? Every representative they send to the BCS gets the brakes beat off of them by whoever they play in a bowl, anyway.
GTfan, jealousy mixed with fear is a bitter drink to swallow. Get over your inferiority complex about losing to UGA every season. Oh, and who cares about what your OSU Suckeye friends think about going to play in a bowl game down here, anyway? All the Suckeyes have proven over the last 2 seasons is that they didn’t deserve to play in the BCS title game. Besides, what do you expect when you play in New Orleans against LSU, who has the absolute worst fan base in the country, bar none. The only thing that could have been worse for the Suckeyes would have been playing the game at Death Valley down in Baton Rouge. Nothing says drunken toothless inbreds quite like a night game down in Baton Rouge.
By dawgcall
May 15, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Why can’t the ACC play their game on Sunday. The BCS could have their selection show later on Sunday night or Monday morning if voters need a day to think about their vote. I don’t even understand why the ACC couldn’t play their game on Monday. The actual BCS games are not going to be played until a month later anyway.
By ClemsonDude
May 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
The ACC championship game should be played in Charlotte with Atlanta hosting the game once every 5 years. Both cities are closer to most ACC schools. The Florida cities are not working well for the ACCCG.
Go Clemson!!!!!! Go Tigers!!!!
By hate sec
May 15, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Hey SEC fans, nobody cares what you think. You act like the SEC championship has been in Atlanta for 100 years. The SEC championship has only been at the Georgia dome for 13 years. Wow, what a long history! Move the game back to Birmingham and let the ACC have Atlanta since we actually have a school here.
By Joe Hamilton - A Tech Man
May 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I suggest Charlotte or Baltimore or DC for the ACC Championship Game. All are NFL stadiums in ACC states. All are approximately half way between Boston College and Miami, ther fartherist ACC schools. The two are easily drivable by all but Miami and FSU.
I seriously doubt the poor turnout for the ACC CG is due to location though. It is simply not a high profile game because the ACC is not a strong conference and probably should not be a BCS at all.
It would be a crying shame to not face the anticipation of whether Tech is going to the Roady’s Truck Stop Humanitarian Bowl or the Emerald Nut Bowl. We just howl with laughter each year whenever the bowl pairings are announced and its Tech to Boise or San Francisco.
I guess Tech playing in Mobile or DC would be almost as funny. Mobile is a hole, but would still be a step up in giving Tech some class. Watching the maggots shiver their stingers off in DC in December would be a hoot too.
By B
May 15, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
I am a Georgia and SEC Conference football fan. However, the ACC plays good football. The conference is not on the same level as the SEC. But that is ok. The SEC is a high standard to be compared to. The ACC has great athletes and football programs. Again, they do not have as many as the SEC. However, that does not mean the ACC is a bad conference. Clemson, Fl State, Miami, and Virginia Tech have great quality programs. The other schools are too inconsistent year in and year out for me to mention. Yes, I know some of the other schools have had great, good, or decent seasons as of late (Wake Forest and Boston College). Yes, I understand FL. State and Miami are down right now. But, remember these things go in cycles. Those two program will be back. The problem with those two programs they have set such high standards. As fans we get spoiled. Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss. St. would still have the same so so win/loss record in the ACC. I believe Maryland, North Carolina, N.C. State, and Virginia are comparable to the SEC Schools before mentioned. Again, the ACC is a good Conference with some good teams. If Miami and FL. State came back to national power and Clemson played to its potential ACC fans would have a better argument. Until that happens the SEC is better.
By Casey
May 15, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
I’m with Chris and believe that it would be neat to have an ACC game on Friday, and the SEC game on Saturday. I’m a Georgia fan, and wouldn’t mind seeing that kind of football on back to back days. Throw up 2 Fanfares, one at Phillips, and the other at the Congress Center. There might be disputes between conferences and their fans, but that’s what it’s all about, right?
As far as all these new bowls, I believe it’s spreading this new age bullcrap message that everyone’s a winner and everyone gets and deserves trophies. All that is crap, and people need to learn that there are winners and losers in this world. No one in the real world gets rewarded for being mediocre, so why should a football team? I’m the same age as these players and realize it would be a good experience for them, but what’s the difference in going 10-2 and 6-6, and winning your bowl game? It’s just saying that the 6-6 team did just as well as the 10-2 team. Heck, both teams get their party packages, both teams get a trophy. All the difference is, is that the school is benefitting more than the actual players who win the games. Do away with all of these worthless bowls and make a team play harder to win the games necessary to get into a respectable bowl. The only upside to this is corporate America taking over college football, and with that being the case it’s only so long before a playoff system gets implimented, cause so much money will be thrown into the faces of these commisioners and board members of the NCAA.
By mtraininjax
May 15, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
For all of the experts on the ACC Championship game, let me explain to you the economics of such this or the SEC game. Either conference is GUARENTEED a sellout by the host city before the first play of the game. Therefore Jacksonville or Atlanta or Tampa has to fork over a check to the ACC or SEC for a sellout of the stadium, no matter if Wake or Duke or Vandy show up to play and no one travels with them.
Jax was in trouble due to the 1st game with FSU and VT. Does anyone in SEC land know that FSU is playing a home game in Jax this year, again, because they bring 50-60k for the game. So the VT-BC and GT-WF matchups don’t have fan bases to make up the difference. The ACC got greedy and decided to keep tickets at the rediculous prices for 2nd tier fan bases. And how many local walk up fans want to pay $75 for a nosebleed seat? Jax could make the game work if they had the $25 seats, but that was not offered until now in the 4th year. So the Gator Bowl Association had to pay the ACC for all those unsold seats.
The key to a good game is walkup seats. The teams will each get 15,000 seats to sell and for boosters. The rest are for local and fan consumption. So for Jax that would leave 55,000 seats, same for Tampa. That is the real question, can they sell 55,000 local seats for the game? Can Charlotte as well?
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 15, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Tony, you could also get Ambien or Lunestra to sponsor the ACCCG. Call it the best three hours of sleep you will ever get.
By mdawg
May 15, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Hey ACC fans, we were here first, were still here, and were not going anywhere else. We have a proud 13 year SEC History and Tradition here and we intend on keeping it that way. Why don’t you have it where there are real ACC schools like Clemson or FSU?
By B
May 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
The ACC is good Conference with some good, ok, and bad teams. That is like all Conferences. That is true of the SEC. I love the SEC. I think the SEC is the best conference in football. The difference between the SEC and the ACC is the SEC has more good teams. The ACC has good athletes. Again, just not as many as the SEC. However, none of this means the ACC is a bad conference. It just means they are not on the same level as the SEC. But the ACC is close. In the future this could be a different argument if FL. State, and Miami play like the days of old and Clemson finally plays up to its potential.
By Ryan is the next Brady
May 15, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Average Temp in Charlotte in December
54 for the high
35 for the low
TV Schedule
1:30 ACC Championship
4:30 Big 12
8:30 SEC
Football can still be played at 54 degrees. Ask the Packers and Giants if they would have liked to had 54 degress in last seasons playoff game. Also the rainfall in Charlotte for the month of December is minimal. Second least amount outside of April for the city. So the weather is not unpredictable as some have mentioned. The ACC is a Carolina’s conference so why not put it in the Carolina’s.
By Hairy
May 15, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
ACC sucks!! Hunker down SEC and National champs!!
WOOF WOOOF!!!
By corey
May 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Hey “hate sec”…
If you really think Atlanta is an ACC town because you “have a school here,” you’re not really paying attention.
As a matter of fact, Auburn fans outnumber you in Atlanta after UGA fans…and I wouldn’t doubt it if TN and AL fans gave you a run for you money.
If you want to prove me wrong, how about outnumbering us at your own home stadium or bringing a few more people to a college baseball game at the Ted.
You guys crow about academics, which always makes me laugh, then prove to be the dumbest fanbase in all of college football. Congrats.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 15, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Mr. hate sec, you have that statement backwards….nobody here cares what YOU think. Please refer to my handle when making more useless posts like the one above.
As for the game being played in Birmingham, let me guess….you are another Tech fan who hates life because UGA is able to fill up not only YOUR stadiun, but also a dome in your own back yard. Isn’t Atlanta supposed to be Yellowjacket country? Is that why you are venting? Jealous because UGA gets attention in Tech’s hometown? Get over it. The SEC isn’t going to move the title game to that hell-hole stadium in Alabama. Been there, done that.
By UnderDawg
May 15, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
What makes me howl with laughter? Not only seeing Tech go to Idaho or San Francisco, but also seeing them LOSE the games they play there to inferior opponents. Once again, you have embarrassed not only the fan base with yet another loss in a bowl game to (chuckle) Fresno St…..you embarrassed the entire state with other losses to Boise St, a team UGA SLAUGHTERED…and on ESPN to boot. Indeed, it must be awful to be a Tech fan.
By Joe Hamilton - A Tech Man
May 15, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Yea, I think the Ambien Bowl for the new one in DC for the ACC #8 team would be appropriate. “For a great night’s sleep, let the ACC #8 team (Tech) and Ambien do the job. You’ll be snoring by halftime.”
By ShutUpMutt
May 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
The idea that Atlanta is “SEC country” is rediculous. If you think the Georgia Dome doesn’t want the ACC championship game, THAT is rediculous too. 2 championship games would mean a sick amount of money for the Dome.
By The Monk
May 15, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Has the ACC ever considered playing their game at TECH?
The stadium isn’t huge but they haven’t been filling up Alltel anyway. The smaller stadium would be easy to sell out and they could play on Saturday afternoon before the SEC night game.
It would be great for the city, especially in those years when there are fewer overnight stayers for the SEC game (Georgia and Auburn fans probably don’t fill the hotels, but VT fans would).
It’s just a thought. I guess the ACC might not want to underscore the “little sister” comparison but (other Dawgs will disagree) Grant Field is not a bad place to see a game (all the seats are way closer than the 600’s at Sanford). The home game aspect isn’t a huge problem because Tech is going to be there every year and the tickets get sold by the conference anyway.
By Haywood Jablowme
May 15, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Atlanta may not be SEC country, but it sure as hell aint Tech country, either. UGA could play every game from now until Judgement Day at the Choke at Coke, and still sell them out before Tech would. The high regard Atlanta has for you nats shows every time you have a home game.
By At least I'm not THAT guy
May 15, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
gtfan,
Your post made no sense. So, help me understand. The SEC has great attendance in bowl games because the majority of their fans are inbred and live in trailer parks? I’m not smelling what you’re stepping in there.
I’ve been to more than a hundred UGA games and have never seen “inbred” looking people. I’ve seen hard-working folks from the country who love their Bulldogs. Seriously, man, put the crack pipe down and quit trying to make yourself feel big by making others so small. It’ll help you live longer.
By Columbus Dawg
May 15, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
Price, are you serious? 3 hours from the Georgia Dome to Athens? If you’re riding a bike, maybe. You can make it from Sanford Stadium to the Georgia Dome’s front door in an hour and a half if traffic’s moving right… and if a Georgia Tech grad didn’t design your car.
By Hairy
May 15, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
ACC…SUX ACC…SUX ACC…SUX
By Columbus Dawg
May 15, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Hey, ShutUpMutt:
You’re right. The Georgia Dome WOULD love to have both the ACC and SEC title games. It WOULD mean more money.
Both conferences want to be in the Dome, but look at which conference the Georgia Dome is being made to bend in order to do it. If the ACC wants in, they’re going to have to move their game. And why? Because given the choice (which the Dome was), they pick the SEC (which they did), because the SEC Championship Game is a more successful product.
Seriously, though, the Wake Forest-Georgia Tech matchup really WAS riveting television. ABC is crossing their fingers hard to get a rematch in 2008.
By B
May 15, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
UGA Is king in Atlanta. Tech is second. However,Atlanta is also potpourri country. There is a little bit of this and a little bit of that. In terms of Alumni, there is more UGA Alumni. Which is a good thing. Which is not a big surprise. UGA is the states flagship school. Unfortunately, there is a lot of shades of ugly organe, yellow, gold, blue, crimson,purple, maroon,baby blue (I know Carolina blue) and other colors on houses and cars around Atlanta. I will have to say, I can stand the SEC and ACC School colors. However, I hate seeing PAC 10, and especially BIG 10 and Norte Dame colors. I love UGA and the SEC, but I love all SOUTHERN FOOTBALL. In all honesty,the ACC Championship would be great for Atlanta and the ACC and Alumni clubs. However, it will be always be second fiddle to the SEC Championship.
By UnderDawg
May 15, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
That Tech-Wake Forrest game made me want to go out and hang myself. 62K fans? Sounds like bullspit to me…Looks like a lot of them went disguised as empty seats.
By wildbill
May 15, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Why does there need to be 34 bowl games? No team will only SIX wins should receive that reward. The qualification for a bowl game should be eight wins and make the invitation mean something. Before the NCAA lost control of their senses and started thinking with their wallets, a bowl invitation was a reward for a good season. There were years not too long ago that schools with seven wins did not receive invitations. This current situation promotes mediocrity, because a team breaking even gets a bone at the end of a season.
By JustMe
May 15, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Why couldn’t the SEC and ACC have their championship game on the same weekend? One on Saturday and one on Sunday.
Crash the SEC party? I don’t get it. Let the SEC go first, or last…. let them choose. Who cares?
There are plenty of hotel rooms, plenty of places to eat, etc. There is no shortage of anything here.
Having both the ACC and the SEC championship games in Atlanta would be a win for all involved - including Atlanta businesses.
It is time for the SEC and the ACC to stop with the petty rivalry and join forces to create SOUTHERN FOOTBALL against the Pac 10, Big 10, etc. If we had that weekend for both ACC and SEC in Atlanta, you just know that ESPN would be camping in Atlanta all weekend long!
By Bama Stan
May 15, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
As a college football fan:
The more bowls the better. Heck, I’ll watch BYU tangle with San Diego State in a bowl game!!!!
TV contract with bowls supply a lot of revenue for schools. The money helps underwrite entire sports programs - not just football.
ACC should move game to Charlotte. The heart of ACC country. ACC officials are not thinking clearly on this one. JAX and Tampa are not logical choices.
As a SEC Fan: 1. ATL rocks to hold the championship game. Plenty of hotels, stuff to do - ATL has been an excellent choice. Coming from a Birmingham native - hard to swallow - but the ATL and the Dome adds to the enormity of the event.
a. hotels and restaurants would be really tough as they would be booked.
b. For both conferences - this is the opportunity to spot light your conference - not to share. If I am ACC - I do not want to share my spotlight with the SEC. Same as SEC sharing their time with ACC
Ask your wife how she would like to share her wedding day with a rival. Not good.
Only a few more months till kickoff!!!
By Steve Spurrier
May 15, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
That ACC game- Tech vs Wake was a joke! It looked like a high school football game. All Tech fans should be embarrased by that showing.
By Cuz
May 15, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
6-6 teams will go to bowls because the Seniors on those teams will want something to point to after a mediocre season. That will not change unless they change the standards to 7-5.
Last years bowl season was less than inspiring. Now we have two more. Well it gives La-Monroe a shot at a bowl game.
I guess the ACC would like to go to Atlanta because they have better strip clubs.
Miami, FSU and Clemson will turn around soon. Clemson could make a run this year. I guess Baby Bowden is out recruiting the Evil Genuis.
By KR
May 15, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Imagine for a moment that YOU control the destiny of the Georgia Dome. You have your choice of hosting the ACC championship game or the SEC championship game, but not both. Also, your continued employment rests on the success (profit) of the game you choose.
The SEC championship game has been a sellout for over a decade, maybe even for its entire existence.
The ACC championship game has never been a sellout. Ever.
Which one would YOU choose?
WAR EAGLE!
By gt fan
May 15, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
You guys better stop being mean to me. Don’t make me slap you. I will have one of my wizards curse you or maybe throw a sliderule at you. Me and my friend rainbowjacket are trying to enjoy a nice game of dungeons and dragons while trying to solve the global warming crisis. But really, you guys need to be more in touch with your feminine side like us. Later on, we are going to go to Starbucks and make fun of Republicans. Then we’re going to post some new pictures on myspace.
By Jimmy
May 15, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
The Wake-GT game was great if your a fan of football you should love defense and that was a great defensive game. But if you have ADD you would have to watch a 42-41 game on the field with no defensive talent at all. Grow up. There is more to football than putting up 40+ a game.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
what road do you take that makes Atlanta to Athens a 3 hour trip?
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
And what map are you looking at that has Jacksonville smack in the middle of SEC country? In fact wouldnt that actually BE Atlanta?
Do you actually know what schools are in the ACC? 2 of them are in Fl as I understand it. Charlotte would prabably be closer to the geographic middle of the ACC.
By Cuz
May 15, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Alt, that would be 316 ar rush hour.
Geography evidently is an elective in the ACC.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Rush hour and stop for dinner maybe….
By Cuz
May 15, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
I wonder if there is a Hooter’s on 316. That would explain the three hours. Lets see 70 miles, three hours, that is 23.33 miles per hour. Must be using Tom Joad’s truck.
By ACC wants Atl????????
May 15, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Is that a joke?
After the game is played in BOA stadium, it probably will never be played any other location! Real football fans (ACC) don’t need a “Hotlanta dome” for football like the South’s Easy Conf puss fans! LOL! Is it true that the sec is down this year?
By ND2007
May 15, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
Charlotte makes sense for the game. It’s a pretty central location. Only BC, FSU, and Miami fans would have major trouble with traveling to the game. VT-Clemson in Charlotte this year would have been perfect.
By TrippDawg
May 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
This is such a boring conversation. First off, the ACC is nothing more than a J.V. version of the SEC. Always has been, always will be. Need proof; okay answer me three questions: 1) Who’s been around longer? 2)Who had college footballs first conference champioship game? 3) Who was in Atlanta first? Don’t go away mad ACC, just go away.
By Real UGA Man
May 15, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
Haywood Jablowme(should this not be Heywood), or do you get the HAY from the HAYSEED that you are? Enough people think we are rednecks without you fueling the fire. To answer one of your stupid questions, the reason the ACC has a championship game is the same that the SEC has—- It is called $$$$$$$. If I were you I would change my name to something fitting, like A##hole.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this
The closer I get to Athens the more hooters I see. Maybe thats it, the scenery progressively slows you down. What were we talking about…
By quaildawg
May 15, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Tell the ACC to look into Parkviews stadium. That should help assure a “near” sell-out. Come to think of it they could pull the old World Football League trick and put manequins in the seats. ACC Football Championship- That’s an oxymoron.
By YELLOWJACKETS REQUIRED
May 15, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
for “Just me” and “Cuz” - I imagine these two are the REGIONAL football Sages for today. JUSTME says have the Sec and Acc Tournament the same weekend. I would imagine that is so the ACC can coat-tail on the SEC’s phenomenal fan following and buying power. Could possibly HURT the ACC as the more scarce rooms become the more they cost. We’re talking ACC, they don’t think about things like that.
And lest I forget the all knowing CUZ. Son, whydid you pee in your pants? CUZ! Son, why did you set the ct on fire? CUZ! Son, why didn’t you go to school today? CUZ!
Folks, that is what Cuz is all about. He reads other articles and blogs and regurgitates it all for us. Much of what he posts I’ve read a day or two earlier somewhere else. Same is true for his companion - ZED McKinley (something like that). If they’re going to use other peoples work they need to site their sources.
If this blos were classwork or a paper to be published there would be a word for that and it starts with a “P”.
By StraightJacket
May 15, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
Let me get this straight:
The city that hosted the OLYMPIC GAMES can’t co-host a weekend double-header of college football?
If I recall correctly, New Orleans hosted what - 3 bowl games this past year? Sure, they were spread out over more than a weekend, but New Orleans only has a fraction of Atlanta’s infrastructure for big events.
Frankly, I’m surprised that the SEC would be “paranoid” regarding sharing some billing with the ACC. I really didn’t think they’d expect the ACC to steal their thunder any more than a minor trade show at some downtown hotel.
Solution: Put All relative ACC FINAL regular season games on the FRIDAY after Thanksgiving, and play the ACC Championship the Friday night before the SEC Saturday Championship.
After all: During the Olympics, we had the Dome, the Arena, AND the World Congress Center ALL with concurrent events. The SEC could have their Fanfare deal at the GWCC and Arena on Friday night - and let the ACC have the Dome.
The SEC needs to view this as a chance for MORE coverage (from the entire Atlantic Coast!); NOT less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Nathan
May 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
Wait a minute. There is a very simple solution to this, and it would mean a sellout every year.
Let’s hold the ACC title game AT THE HOME STADIUM of the division winner with the best record (or, if both winners have the same record, whichever team is ranked higher).
This way, you’re guaranteed a sellout (or maybe not, this is the ACC) and there’s no argument over which city should host the game.
Make the best team EARN the shot at hosting the game.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
straightjacket, I for one would love to see you quote some example of what you are so offended about in Cuz’s quips.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
sorry straightjacket, meant the other guy. Your post actually was coherant.
BTW do you all really think the site of the ACC CG is dictated by what the SEC wants?
By StraightJacket
May 15, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
Well, … AltamahaDawg:
You wrote: “BTW do you all really think the site of the ACC CG is dictated by what the SEC wants?”
Well, I’m just reading what Tony Barnhardt wrote.
It is no secret that the ACC would like to have the game here. It is even LESS of a secret that the Atlanta Sports Council would like the ACC here.
So,… Tony Barnhardt’s comments actually make deductive, logical sense: The SEC MUST actually HAVE that much power over the city of Atlanta.
Again, from my view, it is short-sighted of the SEC.
Why WOULDN’T they like the extra exposure of all those cameras from Charlotte, D.C., Boston, Richmond, etc., etc., etc…..
I just don’t get it…..
By shane #1
May 15, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this
Having the ACC and SEC cgs on the same weekend would be a logistical nightmare. Try getting a hotel room or finding a seat in a restaurant. The ACC fans trying to get to the Dome in Atlanta’s Friday afternoon traffic while SEC fans are coming into town for Their game on Saturday. No thanks, I’ll pass.
By StraightJacket
May 15, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
uh,…Shane: As an engineer who knows something about “logistics” with minor in event planning who worked a FAR more complex project in Atlanta called “The OLYMPIC GAMES” …
I’m telling you that NO; Your “logistical nightmare” is a myth - or at least it is as far as Atlanta is concerned.
If you need the Olympics stats on people at concurrent events and downtown hotels / restaurants, then re-post and maybe I can find the figures.
The truth is that a ACC / SEC Fanfare would be great for both conferences… and OH! … great for Atlanta as well!
Still surprised that the PR genius leaders wouldn’t want the extra PR from the NC, VA, DC, Boston, etc. media centers…..
By TechFan
May 15, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
First of all I am a GT fan, and ACC supporter. The ACC is not that weak, they just beat each other up interconference. Plus, a side note the ACC schools have a MUCH higher scholastic standard than does the SEC, just putting that out there.
Anyway, bad idea having the ACC/SEC CG on the same weekend in Atlanta. ACC would best be suited in in the Carolinas. Give them their own venue.
Conference power changes. This decade is the SEC/PAC 10, last was BIG 10/ACC, before that BIG 12. Eventually, FSU and UofM will re-establish their dominance, Clemson and VT are always a threat in ANY game, GT is turning a corner and has a brighter future, BC has gained some recruiting strength with last year, WF is starting to step up, and for the rest of the teams, their times will come.
ACC football will become a dominant threat with in the next 2-3 years. Bet on it.
By ACC
May 15, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this
The ACC is weak? Go look at the players drafted by conference the last couple of years. Also, up until the last two years, the ACC always won the most the bowl games. The SEC is strong this year and last year no doubt, but it hasn’t always been that way nor will it always be. But to say the ACC is weak is pretty stupid. On a side note, the ACCCG should be in Charlotte, it’s a no brainer, although I would love for both games to be in Atlanta, that would be a great atmosphere and great for the city.
By RxDawg
May 15, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
The biggest difference between the SEC and the ACC is not football talent. The difference lies in the fan support and the pockets those fans bring. Almost all of the SEC schools travel very well where as the same cannot really be said for the ACC. With the popularity of college ball continualy growing I’m sure in due time that will balance itself out. The ACC championship game will succeed somewhere….Charlotte has my vote.
By bbtick
May 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this
Ok, this is probably going to be the last time this topic is discussed on this blog for a while, so mark this down as a guarantee. The ACC Championship Game in Tampa will be about as successful as it was in Jacksonville. Everything will change in 2010 when the game moves to Charlotte, which I feel will be its permanent home. Tickets for the 2010 Championship Game are going to see out in (1) hour…max…no matter who is playing in it. The same thing will happen in 2011 and that will be the end of any discussion of a rotationl. Rotation works for the Big 12 (Big 2) because every team has to get on a plane to play every game. Big 12 fans are used to traveling long distances to see their teams play. It’s west of the Mississippi, so 8 hours is simply considered an afternoon stroll. Rotation will not work for the ACC and I am going to present (3) reasons why the ACC Championship Game will be a fixture in Charlotte starting in 2010.
1.) Central Location - Charlotte is within five hours of 8 of the 12 ACC campuses. The only exceptions are Maryland, BC, Miami, and FSU. Maryland and BC will travel to Charlotte because they will be in the game so infrequently. FSU fans will definately make the drive. The only fans that will not attend are Miami fans, who only travel to National Championship Games played in south Florida.
2.) Location - A lot of ACC football fans are going to attend the game no matter who is playing in it. My wife and I live in southern Virginia and we have already decided that we are going to make it a yearly trip, even in the odd years that the Hokies are not playing in the game. Think we’re alone?…think again.
3.) Location - ACC fans enjoy driving to the ball game and then driving home. Yeah, we tail-gate, but we don’t start on Tuesday like SEC fans. The game being played in Charlotte would allow many of us to drive to the game and then still make it home to watch SportsCenter or Duke-Carolina games on ESPN Classic.
When the ACC celebrates the 20th anniversary of the Championship Game in Charlotte in 2030, don’t forget that you read it here first.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
starighjacket, my point is that they are free to go and do whatever they want with the single exception of interfering with the SEC version, who invented the concept and Atlanta bid to have it there. I’m just saying, have it someplace else if Jville isnt the best deal. Atlanta Georgia is hardly the epi-center of the ACC.
What I dont get is how you see any PR advantage for the SEC having the ACC game on top of it’s own. It not like ACC fans from Va, and Boston are going to buy more SEC product, support any SEC school, be more aware of the SEC or IF their conference game is in the same city. The vast majority of ACC fans are going to only have TV exposure, and I seriously doubt that the ACC is going to be giving any “shout outs” to the other guys during that broadcast. ACC fans are fully aware, follow (or don’t) the SEC, and fans from both I’m sure watch the others CG irrespective of the venue. If they don’t being in the same city wouldnt change that. I am probabaly missing your point, but what real tangible exposure benefit would thier be for either?
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
As for the yellowjackets required, It’s not a shock to me that you can’t back up your rediculous accusation, even as abundant as you claim the case is.
For the “folks” who are on here quite often, we all know what CUZ is all about, being that he is one of the nicest, most hospitable bloggers in here. I dont think I have ever seen him give in to the temptation to blast one of the very many idiots that drive the rest of us crazy. And who in here that you beleive to be more original is beyond me. I think the problem is, people with any degree of joculatity are perhaps over your head.
Appearantly unsubstatiated, unprovoked, personal attacks, is what you are “all about”.
By StraightJacket
May 15, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this
Championship games should be as neutral as possible. Bad weather does NOT affect two teams equally. One style team often benefits in poor weather. Make the playing field neutral. I mean, really,… when’s the last time you saw a Super Bowl in Chicago or Green Bay? And WHY? WEATHER! Mostly for the teams, but the fans are certainly a secondary consideration.
There’s a REASON the ACC Championship Game hasn’t been to Charlotte ALREADY!!!!! And it is a VERY good reason!
We can agree that Florida has GREAT odds to have good weather to make things equal climate-wise. It is also fine for fans, but NOT central to the ACC Fanbase.