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Will Perrilloux decision come back to haunt LSU?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s Monday morning and I’m really confused. I really need you to help me out here. I need you to help me understand.
Ryan Perrilloux was the backup quarterback on LSU’s national championship team of 2007. If not for Perrilloux, the Tigers probably don’t get a chance to play for the title. He took over for the injured Matt Flynn in the SEC championship game and played really well in a 21-14 victory. Perrilloux is a good player. I get that.
In February Perrilloux was suspended from the team for the third time in eight months for violating team rules. As a result, he did not take part in spring practice at a time when he was supposed to assume the role of starting quarterback and, you would think, a team leader.
Miles has said that Perrilloux will rejoin the team after he fulfills certain obligations that have not been specified-at least publicly. After three suspensions I question the wisdom of letting Perrilloux come back to the team without missing at least one game (he did have to sit out the Alabama game last November after his second suspension). But hey, it’s Miles’ team. He makes the rules. I get that.
But here is the part I don’t understand. Today the LSU football team will visit the White House where they will be honored as college football’s national champions. It’s quite an honor and a once in a lifetime trip for the men on that team.
Ryan Perrilloux will make the trip.
I ask because I really want to know. On what level does that make sense? On what level is that fair to the other 84 guys on scholarship who managed NOT to get suspended and managed NOT to violate team rules?
Is there going to come a time when the players on the LSU team who are busting their butts to do the right thing are going to get tired of stuff like this?
If I’m an LSU football player, tell me why I have to attend every class, every meeting, and every practice in the spring while this guy has managed to skip ALL of spring practice and get a trip to the White House to boot?
Is this the kind of decision that could come back and bite Miles and the LSU team down the road?
Or could it be that we adults are too obsessed with this kind stuff? Could it be that the players are okay with this as long as Perrilloux is there and ready to go on Aug. 30 when the Tigers open with Appalachian State?
I’m just asking.




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Comments
By SecIsFootball
April 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
One thing that Miles has proven over the years is that your suspension only depends on how good you are. This decision will come back to bite miles because he will see his suspension won’t work. Three suspensions in 8 months is not coincidence and I would be my money that it will happen again. It is evidence of a kid who just does not get it. However, he knows he can get away with it and remain on the team and likely the starter. He may go into fall practice 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart but how long do you think that will last? 1 or 2 practices maybe.
I am all about 2nd chances and I dont deny the issues with arrests my team has had. Like UGA in the past, they have been misdemeanor problems and the kids deserve a chance to make things right. Do it again, SEE YA!!! At LSU, screw up once and you get a suspension. Screw up twice and you are gone…unless you are a starter!
By bull-gator
April 7, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Miles is not unlike most big time college football coaches. Discipline differs dependent upon the standing of the player on the depth chart. I don’t think his qb was arrested for drugs, guns, or violence against women, he was just acting the way he’s always acted…a prima donna and the rules don’t apply. That’s the way the kid has been treated his entire athletic life…the rules don’t apply. Too bad, but that’s the way it is until someone has guts enough to do something about it. Spurrier can’t keep his bad boy qb under control either. These coaches have got to refrain from signing these super talented kids with character problems.
By k tiger
April 7, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
never ceases to amaze me how the entire world is so obsessed with RP and what happens with him at LSU. must be because the rest of the SEC knows that LSU is THE TEAM TO BEAT and not the howling pups over in athens.
as I recall, RP hasn’t been arrested or charged with any crimes yet, unlike the occurrances that happen at UGA, UT, or Bama.
oh, and that crap about LSU not being able to field a decent team without RP, get a life, QB is only 1 of 22 starting positions on the team. We’re LOADED and will win the SEC AGAIN THIS YEAR.
By baloney
April 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Maybe he voted republican, and maybe he is the only guy in Louisiana that doesn’t blame GBush for Katrina hitting that part of the country.Just a thought.
By baloney
April 7, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Maybe he voted republican, and maybe he is the only guy in Louisiana that doesn’t blame GBush for Katrina hitting that part of the country.Just a thought.
By Howard
April 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Sir…I despise Lobbying Les” Miles as much as anything but at least his QB was not busted for felonies and such. You want an example of a coach going soft on a player because of his star status…look no further than Saint Bobby Bowden at FSU. His program has been full of hoodlums who did almost anything but were still allowed to play. Remember Seb Janokowski (the famed kicker he had…)and all the crimes he committed, yet was allowed to play? A friend of mine whose son was a kicker on the FSU team when Janikowski was there once told me that it was common knowledge that there were the team rules and then there were the “Janikowski Rules.” You could go on and on about coaches bending the rules…it all depends on how big a star you are!
By SecIsFootball
April 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
k tiger…the world is not obessed with RP any more than they are when a player from UA, AU, UGA, UF ect gets in trouble. No RP has not been arrested but if you think he is the definition of a good leader, you are insane. The kid looks out for himself and that is it. His actions of not attending class and team meetings proves it. LSU may very well win the SEC again and Miles will spare no expense in doing so, even if it means that RP is calling the shots.
By dad1253
April 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Here is what will happen. The media will talk about this and when he comes out and leads LSU to a victory, they will relish him as a rededicated player and saviour. Make sure you listen to the game play by play guys, they will annoint him KING!
By Gene
April 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
We really don’t know what Perriloux has done. I don’t think any of his suspensions were because of arrests, although he apparently got his butt whipped last year in a bar. Perriloux is no model citizen, to be sure, but if missing class is was his crime, that is very minor in terms of college football. There is mention here of FSU, and we know that Richt studied under the master of non discipline, Bobby Bowden. Many of the problems at Georgia are fairly common—underage drinking, drunk walking, and more serious drunk driving arrests and the occasional assault. Georgia players have been involved in serious crimes over the years that Richt has winked at, depending on the player’s skill. People tend to forget that the Tony Coles rape case in the athletic dorm involved two scholarship football players. Adams threw a large sum of money at that situation to make it go away. There was the assault charge last year where two high school students were beat unsconscious by football players from Georgia and Murray State. The Murray state player was kicked off the team. The Georgia players missed the first game. The national poster child for criminal behavior is Danell Ellerbe. Auto theft, drunk driving, leaving the scene of an accident, assault, false identification and so on. Ellerbe was suspended from the first two games of the 2006 season, and now Richt is “gushing” over his leadership skills. I am still wondering who paid the fines and legal fees to keep Ellerbe out of prison. Well, there will always be place for Ellerbe with the Cincinnati Bengals.
By VirtualRambo
April 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Good questions, Tony. At what point does this begin to affect team chemistry? Sometimes this intangible is more important than any particular skill set any one player may possess. LSU has built their program up to the point where they are one of the elite teams that doesn’t rebuild. They reload. Les Miles must be very insecure to tolerate this behavior. I’m all for giving a kid a second chance. The line is drawn, however, after the 3rd, 4th or 5th offense.
By Bamafan
April 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
I hate players who only care about them!! Living in Nashville, we have the biggest idiot person who plays pro football. Pacman Jones is not the care of person to follow Ryan!! Hope you get your head out of your butt and grow up!! And to k. tiger who cares about your LSU tigers. I follow the crimson tide of Alabama the only team I care about!! ROLL TIDE!!!
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
jtiger, I think you got it. “The rest of the SEC”… media, prognosticators and fans I assume you meant….. knows what you know, they just choose to say something different. Yea, thats it.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
April 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
K TIGER
I appreciate your emotion as a LSU fan,but you have to see that this IS a BIG story. The defending NC QB cannot seem to stay out of the headlines, and for all the wrong reasons. Its not a media bias, simply a big story in the biggest college football conference in America.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Gene, so basically, you are accusing the Clark County Court system, along with the District Attorney, of being corrupt and accepting bribes?
By DWG
April 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Looks like Gene spends a lot of his free time researching other teams football happenings. Must suck to be him. The story you referenced with the high school kids, you must have been there I guess. You seem to know the whole story and all of the facts behind it. Maybe Gene is a Private D!ck. So Gene, are you saying that Danelle cannot be commended by Richt for leadership just because of some bad decisions made more than 2 years ago? So tell us, what glass house do you live in? A tech one? AU? Thanks for caring about GA football. Sounds like you’re becoming obsessed.
By 82DAWG
April 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Just Win Baybee!!! Nothing else matters at LSU.
By Hmmmmm
April 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Gene
Please don’t talk about sir Richt that way! The bullpuppy nation will become upset. Of course you get the same sad logic that AltamahDawg uses to justify the same lack of discipline UGA has! Unfortunately, this win at all cost mentality runs rampant throughout this country. The SEC of course has become number 1 in this category. I’m not sure that any SEC institution has any integrity, with the lone exception of Vanderbilt. The bottom line is that nobody cares as long as we win! SAD state of affairs….
By S
April 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
“Nothing else matters at LSU”. How about nothing else matters at any school in the SEC. See Urban Meyer, See Phil Fulmer, See Mark Richt. The only guy that typically does the right thing is Steve Spurrier and that is because he knows he can’t win anyway. Hey, I am LSU fan and am getting pretty sick of Mr. Perrilloux, but it isn’t for me or anyone to say what Coach Miles does with his team. Nobody knows the whole story of any of the situations that have occured. One thing is certain though. The kid has not been arrested and has never been charged with a crime (no drugs, no DUI, no battery, etc). Wrong place, wrong time a lot..yes. Is he lucky to not have been arrested at this point…probably so. But missing class and missing meetings. Those are Coach Miles’ rules and he can judge them however he wants.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
And what logic would that be? Hmmmmm? Please tell us. What sad logic am I using to justify lack of discipline?
By McMikel
April 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Lemme see, Barnyard, you gotta help me, too. Here we have a college student with a fake ID (Suspension One), was with friends in a college bar when a fight broke out with a bouncer, (Suspension Two), missed classes (Suspension Three) and you can not understand how this multiple transgressor should be allow anywhere near the football team. I wonder how many people casting stones at this teenager either pulled similar stunts, or are parents of students pulling these lapses. This not drug sales, textbook fiscal fraud, or sexual assaults.
“Mr. Football” needs to get out of his cheerleading costume and sniff the real world once and while.
By Miles
April 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Mr. Barnhart, all the questions you are asking are merely rhetorical. You know that. I know that. Everybody knows that. It’s precisely this form of overt favoritism that all true fans of southern fried football hate. By continually not upholding standards of behavior and ethics that are inherent to the concept of the “student-athlete,” Les Miles not only hurts his team and Perilloux, he stoops to a level whereby he disrespects himself.
By Janie J
April 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
If McMikel’s information is correct, it looks like Miles’ ship is very tight! There are ACC & SEC teams that routinely ignore these type of infractions as everyday and commonplace.
By Paul Hamilton
April 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
I love it! Keep allowing RP to bend the rules to his liking. One thing for sure is kids that continually get in trouble never wake up until it’s too late. I just don’t want to hear all the ls-who? fans whining when they lose their quarterback at the most crucial point of their season. I would say the odds are pretty high that this happens again during the season and Miles will have no choice but to suspend him for a few games.
By DWG
April 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Sounds like Tony is fanning the media flames himself. Most of these suspensions are blown out of preportion. I think Perriloux should join his team to be honored for a championship he helped win before being suspended. What I disagree with is punishing student athletes by keeping them from spring drills. Something like running stairs and staying at practice longer should be the punishment along with possibly missing the first regular season game - if you really want to send a message.
By Jack G
April 7, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Tony——I realise that there is not much going on in college football right now, but it seems to me if you tried real hard you could find something else to write about.
This article and subject matter is not worth the space it takes up.
By MOTDawg84
April 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
[http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2008/04/07/will_perrilloux.html#comment-44680503]
Gene: What does the Tony Cole incident have to do with Coach Richt? The only football player involved, a JUCO brought in by Donnan, was kicked off the team.
As for Tripp Taylor, the football player you slandered, he was breaking up the fight, not instigating it. If you had read any of the follow-up articles, you would know that. You would also know that he has decided to give up playing football.
As you point out, Ellerbe’s suspension was at the beginning of the 2006 season (though it was 3 games, not 2). The “auto theft” was taking a teammate’s car, and the teammate didn’t press charges. You also criticize Coach Richt for “‘gushing’ over his leadership skills.” Don’t you think he may have matured in the two years since the incident?
For a self-proclaimed alumnus of Georgia, you seem to have a lot of self-hatred.
By shane #1
April 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Tony, I think You have missed the point. Miles doesn’t have a problem,Perrilloux has the problem. He has missed spring practice, and some team meetings. Do You think LSU just left the QB spot vacant all that time? I would suggest that some young QB was there running the team and getting reps with the starters. There is no law that says Perrilloux has to start next fall, and if He continues to goof off He won’t. If Ryan continues to skip classes He will flunk out. Either way it will not affect Miles, He has enough talent to win games without Perrilloux,and He knows it! Like Spurrier said about His troubled QB,”either He will make it or He won’t”.
By Joe Labruzzo
April 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
As an LSU alumni, I have to say the RP news is weighing on the Tiger Nation. His lack of decision making is our lingering fear. If we’re 6-0 this year and he goes out on a Friday night and has too many Sazerzc cocktails just because RP wants to— that will be the wake up call to say remember back in the spring what happened ? We may not NEED RP but we sure want him. Here’s to RP getting his mind right for the 2008 season. He owes Les at least that much.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
McMikel, did you even read the article? I beleive Tony’s point was, if (whatever) he did warrants the suspension he got, why does it not include the perks during the time frame of that suspension? Fair question. Doesn’t sound like any of those offences were too bad (by themselves) but I think it’s fair to at least wonder how #3 (however unimportant you may think missing class is) is less of a penalty than #2.
Janie, what teams and what infractions, specifically?
By steverino
April 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
The trip makes sense in that when LSU won the National title, RP was a team member in good standing. While he may not be a member of the current squad, he was a part of That NC team. In this way he is no different than other players that may have used up all their eligibility but were allowed to make the trip even though they are not current team members.
By Quincy
April 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Fat Tony…Why are you asking us about RP…? Pick up the phone and call Les…Who are you to 2nd guess Les’s decision and methodology in disciplining his players? Seems like he did ok in winning the BCS last year. If I remember correctly you were dissing Les on Jamarcus Russell and potential QB controversy with Flynn several years ago….quit being jealous homer and let the Bayou Nation alone!!
By Miles Turner
April 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Here is the reality of the situation:
*1)Ryan Perrilloux only started 2 games during 2007. In those games, he completed near 80% of his passes, and was the MVP of the SEC Championship game. In each game he also ran up big rushing numbers.
(2) Ryan Perrilloux’s high school coach said that Ryan becomes a “winning machine”, once he is placed on the football field. He blocks everything else out, and becomes obsessed with beating the other team. He cannot stand to lose in anything. The coach also said that Ryan’s presence on the field has an unbelievable “charge” effect on the other players.
(3) Ryan Perrilloux is making very good grades in school. No surprise. He is smart and he is competitive.
(4) Ryan Perrilloux was suspended 3 times only because of Coach Miles’ tough standards. He would not have been suspended for these acts at many other schools. The infractions are “kid-like”, not criminal.
(5) The other LSU football players love Ryan Perrilloux, and they most definitely want him on the field to play football for this team.
(6) LSU has another quarterback coming in, Russell Sheppard, who is at least equal to Perrilloux. He is currently ranked as the number 1 player in Texas, and he has been followed in Houston for 3 years. The Houston press has been calling him “the next Vince Evans”, for all 3 of these years. He has a 3.7 average, and is a model citizen.
(7) Other SEC teams will get all they can handle from LSU, for years to come.
(8) Unfortunately this newspaper does not “know” LSU very well. Not the whole story about Ryan Perrilloux. Not the thinking of the other players on this team. Not the quality of the Louisiana and Texas recruiting of this team. Not a lot!
Miles Turner*
By quaildawg
April 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Gene, Do yourself a favor and research your “facts” before posting. As the saying goes “remain silent and be thought a fool rather than post and remove all doubt.”
By Rabun Dawg
April 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
It isn’t interesting to note that when one SEC school has a discipline problem, some of you get on here and bring up past instances that may have happened under Mark Richt’s watch! He is one of the finest individuals to come along in some time, and some of you love to jump on his case. Sad to say, but no one in the SEC lives in a glass house!
By DWG
April 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Who is Vince Evans?
By shane #1
April 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Miles Turner, all that You said may be true, I don’t know enough about the situation, but I do know that players do not make progress on the field by missing team meetings and practices and staying in clubs untill three am. I also know that LSU, UGA, and UF have more talent than any other teams in the SEC. Miles would like to keep this talented QB on His team, but He will win His share of games no matter what Perrilloux does. It is not necessary for a coach like Miles, or Richt, or Meyer, to kick a troubled player off the team. Competition for starting slots on these teams is so fierce that the problem will take care of itself.
By Miles Turner
April 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
DWG, I do stand corrected. I guess this shows my age. I meant to say “Vince Young”. Vince Evans was also a successful quarterback who played for USC, and later in the NFL.
Miles Turner
By bigeasy830
April 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Miles Turner great post. I did not know that about Perrilloux. The only thing I knew of is what the media has said or written about the kid. As the media tells it he is almost as bad as the boogie man. I wonder why the AJC would print a story about a kid who plays for LSU in April. What type of research did this writer conduct before writting this story. Man, is business that slow. I know TECH sucks but he may be able to find some good stories in Athens. What about GA. Southern,even Fort Valley State or Albany State, Valdosta State, which have won a couple of national titles, West GA, or the AU center teams, what about the lack of JUCO teams in this state. Something, anything other than a kid who plays for LSU that he, the writer, obviously knows nothing about him than what he has heard. My Goodness Tony, you could have done better than this story at this time. They shouldn’t even pay you this week for this story and put you on probation. Another sorry story like this and you will be gone like the wind. “And Frankly my Darlin I won’t give a …..” HAHA
Holla if you hear me, Say Amen If you feel me.
P.S. Perrilloux does have skills and I hope if something is wrong down in LSU with him he gets his act together. I have followed his career since he was the #1 dual threat QB coming out of high school.
Just kidding Mr. College Football. I can’t wait for the season to start also. UGA 2009 National Champs, Damn that just rolls of the tongue so smoothly
By CharlieFoxtrot
April 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Haven’t read every post, but just want to reiterate what dad1253 said. When Perriloux is playing next year, we are going to get stories about how he learned his lesson by missing spring practice. And how Perriloux has grown up and is a man now. Yet, I can almost guarantee that either he will do something that will cause LSU to miss out of the national championship (like get suspended for SEC champ game or something) or he will do something silly to affect his draft status after he has declared and dropped out of school.
I don’t fault Les Miles for allowing him back on the team. He’s getting $4 million dollars/year to win 14 football games. If he has a bad year, he could be fired and it would be a shot to his ego.
But maybe Perriloux would be better served if he were disciplined harshly now, so that when he gets to the nfl he’ll be able to deal with losses. And maybe Les Miles will earn more respect for taking a hard line than he would for doing what seemed inevitable. And maybe the LSU football program would be better in the long run in that case rather than winning a national championship that everyone looks back on as having a wasted nfl talent at qb.
This all goes to Miles Turner’s 2nd point above. Sure, Perriloux may be a “winning machine”, but one of life’s important lessons is that it’s ok to lose sometimes. You can’t be the best at everything, and I bet with his intelligence, he thinks he is the best. He can probably out-debate most people on any topic because he is smart and cocky. The problem is that the longer he doesn’t learn that it’s ok to lose, the harsher the lesson will be in the future.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Miles, 8 points and not a one of them answered the guestion. Most of them had absolutely no bearing on this topic. and then, a couple of them seem to validate what some folks are implying.
steve, comparing a suspended player to a graduated one, prabably isn’t going to fly. And I can tell you that in my house, the argument of should be allowed to go on a trip simply because it was technically planned PRIOR to getting in trouble doesnt hold a lot of water either. Nor do people get bonuses for thier previous hard work, months after getting themselves fired from thier job.
By gerry12
April 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
as a tiger fan you we are tried of rp even if he get’s kicked off the team we have the players to to win we are loaded and ready for the sec i too believe rp should’nt go the white house
By gerry12
April 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
as a tiger fan you we are tried of rp even if he get’s kicked off the team we have the players to to win we are loaded and ready for the sec i too believe rp should’nt go the white house
By shane #1
April 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Charlie Foxtrot, Perrilloux is twentyone years old, He is old enough to look to His own future. I heard a JuCo coach explain it like this at His summer camp. “I am not Your Momma or You Daddy. I am a football coach. I teach football, that’s it. I will not check on Your grades or Your classroom attendence. I do not care what You do off the field. I will tell You this, screw up and You will be expelled. Skip enough classes and You will flunk out. Miss practice for no reason and You will be off the team. It makes no difference to Me, because next summer I will be talking to another group that looks just like You.”
By War Eagle
April 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
He is picking up the dialogue from Nick Saban who is on the same page with suspensions.It depends on how good you are as how long you sit out or go home… If Perriliou is a team member today, he should go to WH, if not, STAY HOME
By UGA_Y
April 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Tony let the coach do his job . He knows the kid better than all of you. This kid help mile make millions. he did wrong and now he must sit a spell. This kid is a good qb but has to get his act together and he will. His team mate and family will lead him the right way. Don’t spell doom on this kid nor LSU Tony. all the team has problem with some player if they tell the truth!
By Mike
April 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Matters not to me, Le Smiles and the Fighting Perilloux surely will get what is coming to them. These types of things always catch up with the teams that allow them. I was a student during the Jan Kemp fiasco, while I would take the fifth if called to testify…. Every school that has bent the for a primadonna has suffered. Arthur Blank is in the throws of his lesson at his very moment.
By tr
April 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
HIS VIOLATION: skipping class to attend his father’s funeral - without notifying coaches first.
By tiger7_88
April 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
k tiger, if you are so confident that LSU’s gonna roll easily all over the SEC no matter who is under center, you should be the first one front and center standing up for the integrity of your program and be in favor of either giving this kid a hefty in-season suspension or booting him off the team.
Yet you are one of many feaux-tiggers making more and more excuses for him.
I wonder why? (That’s a rhetorical question, k tiger. For you cajun idiots, that means it’s a question to which everyone already knows the answer.)
By MilesT
April 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Miles Turner, did you actually right this?
(4) Ryan Perrilloux was suspended 3 times only because of Coach Miles’ tough standards. He would not have been suspended for these acts at many other schools. The infractions are “kid-like”, not criminal.
Yeah, that’s it. No other coach has strict rules like going to class except Miles. Sorry boys, 1 strike at UGA with academics and it’s automatically 10% of the SEASON (not practice). Maybe MILES needs to follow the leader in discipline.
By Desert Dawg
April 7, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
I would love to be a trial lawyer in Baton Rouge. Of oourse, I would have to be a Graduate of GA, ALA, or FLA law schools for this to have any chance of success.
The next LSU player to get in trouble and get disclipined in any manner that could be considered more sever than Perrilloux (that will probably be the very next one) would be a great client for a discrimination law suit against the University. File the suit, get lots of publicity, settle out of court for an “undisclosed” sum…..40% of which I get to keep.
Damn, I know I should have gone to Law School.
By SecIsFootball
April 7, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Miles Turner…You say that teams will get all they can handle from Perrilloux? If so, why was he not capable of beating out Matt Flynn for the starting job. Flynn was good but by no stretch of the imagination was he a great QB.
As for Miles “tough standards”…why are most other players capable of living up to Miles “tough standards”? Perrilloux is a very poor example of a leader because all you LSU fans want to look at is his on the field performance. The kid has had 3 suspensions in 8 months and you can pretty much guarantee it wont be his last. Miles sends a poor message with is discipline and it will come back to bite him. I just wonder if he messes up again, how many more practices he will be suspended from.
By Atlanta Gator
April 7, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Personally, I have no idea what young Ryan did to earn his current or previous suspensions, and the only two people who know, the coach and the quarterback, aren’t talking. That having been said, if the offense were serious enough to merit suspension from spring practice and the LSU intrasquad spring scrimmage, it probably should have been serious enough to prevent him from going to the White House.
By SugarHillDawg
April 7, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Hey K tiger, last time we met up with you guys we pasted ya by 20. It might not be by 20 this year but after the game,everyone will know that you guys will once again be our beeeyotches!!!!!!
By shane #1
April 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, I have no problem with Perriloux going to the White House. He earned that against UT in December. SECisfootball, He might have been the most athleticly gifted QB at LSU, maybe He didn’t start because He didn’t earn it on the practce field. If he doesn’t get His act together He may not start next year.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
tr, then Les Miles is a classless, heartless SOB for suspending and publically embarassing the kid for nothing more than going to his Dad’s funeral? Is that what you are saying?
By bigeasy830
April 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
I need you people to understand one thing. LSU has great talent on their team but, to beat UGA, Bama, Auburn, Fla, Tenn SC, and the Ark. and the rest of the great teams in the tough SEC, they need Perrilloux to have a chance at the SEC Title. That kid is a playmaker. You sensitive people need to understand that football is a gladiator sport. Les Miles knows he must win to keep his job. It does not matter what you sensitive people may post in this or any other blog, if LSU lose to many games for to many years he will be fired, in the SEC you need Perrilloux, just like Ark needed Mcfadden UGA needs Ellerbe and so on and so on. Yes, you also wanna give the young man a chance to mature as a person as well. Say what you will about FSU and Bowdens troubles with troubled players, I do believe that he also wanted to help those young men as they matured, he did not throw them away, he hung in there with them. But, also winning is the bottom line. You cannot have a team full of choir boys and also, most of those other 84 players know they cannot hold Perriloux jockk strap. If they wanna win they better shut up and stay in their place. Perrilloux treatment is the same way many people are also treated in corporate america, the military, at a factory and anywhere else. The bosses will always have there favorites. Do you sensitive people complain to him at your job, “NO” you play your position and shut up. Football is a great metaphor for life that is why I love it. From, the Pee Wee league to the pros. You sensitive people are the same ones that wanted all kids to have a certain amount of time on the field in Pee Wee if he was not a starter and had not athletic ability. That is wrong, Life is not fair and if something is not for you you should move on to something elese. Plain and Simple. When I was growing up. I had to fight my way unto a starting position. As, and this was just Pee Wee League. I was only 10 years old. Like I said Football is a gladiator sport, you should teach them good sportsmanship but, It is what it is. So you sensitive people PLEASE STOP trying to destroy the sport that I love.
Raise hell Perrilloux and ask GW for 5 dollars to help with the gas, He got it.
Holla if you hear me, Say men if you feel me.
By Howard Lee
April 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Ryan Perriloux is a good example of flexible rules. He may not look for trouble but trouble may look for him, especially in bars and other public places. Questionable behavior can obviously cost a qualified NFL player lots of dollars as the NFL may be fed up with the trouble makers and head cases. If RP has a good year and stays out of trouble, he might make it to the NFL. Thanks Howard Lee Bogalusa La
By byutiger
April 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
Ryan Perrilloux can have just as many chances to stay with his team as David Vitter has to stay with his. Is it a double standard? Sure, so what? Do you try to get out of a traffic ticket even though you KNOW you were speeding? Ryan Perrilloux hasn’t done anything so egregious that he deserves dismissal. He must be doing his schoolwork or he’d have been booted from the university. What’s the big deal?
By Mark in LA
April 7, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
The writer shows an amazing ignorance of some facts - sad, in that its part of his job. Perriloux was not suspended during the fall. He was held out of practice while it was determined if he had any role in a fight with bouncers. He was cleared by police and video tape. In February, he was suspended because he missed a class and team meeting, immediately following his father’s death. The issue had more to do with his lack of communication. And, oh, that first suspension - trying to use a fake id at a casino in Baton Rouge. How many kids in college haven’t tried that one?! He’s no angel, but he’s done nothing compared to some other SEC schools’ athletes.
By AltamahaDawg
April 7, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
Funny, end of the day and the tiger fans still don’t get the point of the article.
By PTC DAWG
April 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
Stupid Tiger fans. Just like the Tiger Bait Cheer…bait is just that, used to lure in animals and kill them. Thus Tiger Bait would be used to kill tigers. Just like the last 2 time UGA has tangled with them.
Oh well, they will need more than some suspended QB to have a shot at UGA.
By Dorsey Hill
April 7, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this
Every coach has to decide how much they will tolerate and every fan base has to make the same decision. Some fan bases could care less if the players go to class or if they have to play on Saturday on work-release from prison. Obviously, LSU is on the tolerant end of the spectrum. If they could field a great team full of Angola inmates, they would. I can hear them now “Look at dat Willie ‘da wife beater’ Broudreaux run dat fooball!” Or “dat Kenny ‘the cop killa’ Casanova should do tackle hard don’t it?”
It is Miles’ and the LSU fan’s team and they have every right to lack as much class as they would like. As they have decided that none will do them just fine, I think we ought to leave them alone.
I don’t think it is up to UGA fans 450 miles away to pass judgment on a bunch of classless, cajun, coonarses. So I’ll leave the name-calling and insults to someone else.
The next thing you know we’ll be telling LSU fans where they can buy shoes or giving them hygiene tips or giving them recommendations for dentists, etc… Is it really any of our business how nasty they are?
By LSUcks
April 7, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
When Doug Moreau, the current East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney, Former Tigah WR and current Tigah broadcaster and also applicant for LSU’s AD allows the vast majority of LSU player’s indiscretions with the law to go “under the table” of course you will not see any LSU arrests in the news. The DA’s office and police have protected LSU’s players and coaches since Huey Long. At least players are subject to the law at other schools and things are not hidden which is the tradition at LSU.
Everyone in the SEC knows the BS that occurs in Baton Rouge…
By SecIsFootball
April 7, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this
PTC DAWG…As much as I think Miles is going WAY too easy on RP, I think you comment about having a shot at UGA, is equally if not more ridiculous. They are the defending National Champs and are as loaded as UGA at just as many positions. Plus with the game being in BR, I think you will see much the same outcome as you did last time the pups visited Baton Rouge. LSU is loaded again, just like UGA so they definitely have a “shot”.
By SecIsFootball
April 7, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
Wow Dorsey….You post that garbage and have the nerve to call someone else classless??? Pot, met kettle!
By Toccoa
April 7, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
Why would going to the White House to shake hands with a Andover male cheerleader be considered “quite an honor?”
By Don Bridges
April 7, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
Miles has been consistent in being a ‘player’s coach’ and trying to do what’s best for the student athelete and LSU. I don’t think he cares too much what the fan base, the media, or other school’s fans think.
I suspect Miles knows what’s best for Ryan and the LSU team. He’s the one responsible for it in the final analysis. Until he’s proven to make the wrong decision, I’ll trust him to make the right decision.
By Jon
April 7, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
hey k tiger, yeah he’s 1/22 starters but he is the only starter one who is pretty much guaranteed to touch the ball every offensive snap. if you’re that sure of #2, have at it.
By andre moreau
April 7, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
yeah, you’re obsessed. to an absurd degree. and—you and many of your readers seem insanely jealous of LSU and its every move. you just can’t wait for the Tigers to fall. and—at some point, I am sure they will. But for the moment, MANY programs across the SEC seem to have MORE flagrant violations by players that get little pub. RP may make it to fall and may not. I know he hasn’t killed and held up anyone. He might be stupid, but talented. Anyway, LSU fans hope the ride continues—and if recruiting is any gauge—this year was Top 10— commits from next year so far —is off the charts. GEAUX TIGERS FOREVER
By mountain fan
April 7, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
Hope he is still sus for the 1st game! LOL! Go Apps
By SickandTired
April 7, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
This sounds kinda like the same discipline Saint Richt dealt out to Odell Thurman. To say that Miles is out on an island here in the SEC as far as treating star players is stunningly ignorant.
By alan
April 7, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
The self-annointed Mr. College Football is just an SEC hack. No one seems to respect him nationally. Compare this guy with some of the others writing for ESPN and SI and you see exactly what a joke he is.
By Gordon Jenkins
April 7, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Miles used ‘tough love’ with the QB and he is now on the team. I think letting him go to the White House shows Ryan the nicer things in life and allows him to set goals and make good decisions. I talked to the QB of the Colts last month and he said the pros don’t want someone who can’t get through college without integrity issues, so it is up to Ryan to prove himself in the next two years. Give the kid a break.
Gordon Jenkins Fighter Pilot (Retired)
By SEC Owns You
April 7, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
Hey alan, this is an Atlanta paper. Of course he is going to write about the SEC all the time you moron. Nobody cares about the fat ankled pasty whites of the Big 10 or the pansy touch football league out west. You can have your ESPN and SI for that. Nobody made you come here. This is the south. We care about the SEC. Get a clue.
By Mr Fun
April 7, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
Miles has to keep RP on the team or he will tell everyone how much $$$ he was given to go to LSU instead of U of Texas
By 3volpaul
April 7, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
Ah, guys, just google up - the Fulmer Cup - and you can get a complete rundown. Good site.
By smegdawg
April 7, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
Good Gawd, you SEC yokels are a bunch of ignorant spuds. How did any of you manage to pass English 101? Oh wait, I forgot. 99% of SEC football fans never attended college. Carry on.
By smegdawg
April 7, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Good Gawd, you SEC yokels are a bunch of ignorant spuds. How did any of you manage to pass English 101? Oh wait, I forgot. 99% of SEC football fans never attended college. Carry on.
By benadawg
April 7, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this
hey k tiger, you are dreaming we coulda kicked your a$$ last year and we will this year.
By m
April 8, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this
If LSU had been coached by Chan Gailey, they would never have won the championship and never have went to the White House…so it wouldn’t be an issue. Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever.
By SECFAN205
April 8, 2008 7:25 AM | Link to this
Hmmmmmmmm I disagree with you on one thing. I don’t think every school in the sec put up with getting into trouble on a regular bases. I personally think Tommy tuberville does an outstanding job of suspending you or getting rid of you,if you mess up,and no matter the circumstances. I can only recall one person that he gave an second chance to, and that was Trey Blackmon. But Trey still was suspended for six games and sent home.And he had a long way to go to get back on the team. But that move by CTT,seem to set a spark or realization, that if you don’t handle your business on and off the field you won’t be on this team. And from what everybody says, that TB is the constant team leader. So i do believe that if you don’t do anything bout this now, it will be bigger problem and distraction, something like this happens during the season. You think it’s talked about now, let it happen during the season.
By SecIsFootball
April 8, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
benadawg….Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I guess is you guys would have actually won your division you would have had a shot but seeing as how you guys took a beatdown from Tennessee (and giving up 85 points to them in 2 years)that was just not possible. But oh year…that was the 1st half of the season and that didnt count, right???
By Quincy
April 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
At the end of the day…Les has a BCS Ring…uga….Richt….zero….RP has one…uga stafford…ring around his collar maybe…
When you pups win a championship in something other than Gymnastics then you can bark….until then….just call us Champs….!!
By Jim Osterman
April 8, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
There is a word for a coach who would suspend a player as talented as Perriloux and make it stick. Unemployed.
The only case I can think of in the last decade or so is Lloyd Carr suspending Brian Griese. Griese worked his way back on to the team a year later and led the Wolverines to a title.
But the norm is a kid like Lawrence Phillips at Nebraska, who “earned” second chances by being a great talent on the field. The Huskers got their title, then showed Phillips the door.
The message? If you’ve got the goods the coach will be the first to blink every time.
By Gary
April 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Tony,
Way to pay attention…Ryan was reinstated after Spring Practice…
Thanks for being so attentive…or would that fact just have gotten in the way of your story?
Hmm…
-Gary-
By Marty
April 8, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
When Ryan Perrilloux gets charged with a crime call me. Until then maybe you should let Les Miles run his team his way. Tony Fatso never has a good word to say about LSU, so this comes as no surprise. He only compliments the other players in this article so he can trash Perrilloux. Maybe the other players appreciate the effort Perrilloux gave in the SECCG game and realize they would not have won the NATIONAL TITLE without winning that game. Maybe because of that they welcomed his participation yesterday. Tony Barnhardt is a fat jackass.
By lsumj
April 8, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
he was allowed to go to the white house because the spring game was saturday, and his suspension ended on sunday.
By Kris
April 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
You do realize that Perriloux was re-instated to LSU’s football team about a week before the visit to the White House, thus making the basis for this article a moot point?
Perriloux is and has been a full member of LSU’s team for about a week now.
Do some research
By dad1253
April 8, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Three players were dealing with alcohol issues during Blackmon’s 2nd or 3rd offense. Blackmon, a sub scholarship DE and a walk on LB. The sub DE was kicked off the team and Blackmon and the walk on(dad is an SEC official)were allowed to makeup and be forgiven. Fair?
By jay sneed
April 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Perrilloux was a valuable member of the 2007 team and deserved to accompany that team to the white house. He was suspended for the spring practice for missing classes and the spring practice ended with last Saturday’s spring game. Perrilloux suspension was over and he is back on the team.
People are making things up about Perrilloux. He has had several suspensions over team rules, but has had only one legal charge— for the non-violent, victimless crime of trying to enter a bar with a fake ID. That’s it. The guy is a slacker, but not a thug.
By JP
April 23, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Reading all the jealousy among Dawg fans is fantastic! Keep it up, guys, Can’t wait til the Tigers whip your butts in the SEC Championship this December!