Mr. College Football

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Jaybo may prove me wrong.

Maybe Tech does care about football!

Back to Tony’s article.

Tony I can not disagree with you more

on the topic.

The more college kids that carry guns the safer they’d be.

Just like in the world in which we live. Look at Kennesaw.

What if one of those kids at VT had a concealed weapon?

That nut job wouldn’t have been able to kill all those kids.

Kids are allowed to carry guns at I believe UTAH. I can guarantee you that if some nut is deciding on which school to shoot up it won’t be Utah.

Now do understand I’m talking about licensed gun owners.

Not some kid cruising through campus with a blunt in the ashtray, a forty in his lap and an unregistered Glock under his seat.

AJC if you pull this please email me why.

By Dave

April 1, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

I would take it one step further if you see anybody on campus who has a gun and you turn them in you get a free video game console or $300 ipod of your choice. After about 5 kids get turned in they will be very afraid that everybody is watching them. That would get rid of guns.

By Dave

April 1, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

For the life of me, I don’t understand people. Who in the WORLD thinks it’s OK to have a gun on campus when EVERYTHING on the TV and media is showing all these other incidences? Do you think it doesn’t apply to you? Do you think you can blame it on rap or the thug image? Do you think it makes you look tough to own a gun and then get your walking papers for just having it? What part of this DON’T you understand? There are NO excuses, NO reason’s, NO rationalization for it. DO YOU GET IT NOW???

By Miles

April 1, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

We surely do not need to be reminded that Wesley and Brown are attending Mississippi State on athletic, rather than academic, scholarships. All joking aside, at what point does Mike Slive step in and ethically address the numerous legal and discplinary issues confronting his conference? Though we must “hate the sin and love the sinner,” somewhere along the line there must be consequences and accountability for bad decisions. While Mr. Barnhart has referenced Mr. Croom’s integrity, ultimately, Sylvester’s actions will speak louder than words.

By quaildawg

April 1, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Oh “Great Ed” from Roswell hallowed be thy name. Regarding your rant yesterday does the name Trey Blackmon ring a bell? How many chances has Tubs given this guy??? Me thinks if he was a third teamer he wouldn’t be on Aubbies current roster. Don’t bother with the comeback at UGA, etc. Needless to say with large numbers of 18-22 year old kids everyones school has those who can’t toe the line and some double standard examples that come from this.

By Rick

April 1, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Tony,

I hate to pick nits… but you say “do not” do the following things, then proceed to list several “do nots.” Doesn’t the double negative (do not do not) mean you’re actually telling them TO own a gun, fire a gun, etc.?

(Proud owner of four guns, by the way.)

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Dave et al:

That is a horrible argument.

Nobody at VT knew that little freak had a gun on campus and look what he did.

It is sooooooo easy for people to say lets get rid of all the guns.

That argument is capricious.

It’s like all those tree huggers that freaked out about The China Syndrome.

One movie ruined the development of all new Nuclear plants.

It sounds good on paper and liberals like feel good things.

By the way I don’t own any guns. I sleep walk.

By Dave

April 1, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Roswell Ed, I do see some validity if it were only staff and teachers that were allowed to carry lisenced and registered firearms. But ANY student caught with a gun show have his behind kicked up around the moon. NO EXCEPTIONS and NO EXCUSES! Criminal charges should be drawn up and they should be prosecuted. Don’t give me the “well, my 19 yr. old daughter feels safer if she has a gun.” If that is the way you think, DON’T SEND HER TO THAT SCHOOL! The time has come to draw a line in the sand and don’t back up a bloody inch

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Blackmon was suspended six games for his underage drinking.

What else did he do?

Punished

SIX GAMES

for underage drinking.

He also was suspended another time for undisclosed team violations.

We have no idea what they were.

For all we know they were for cutting class.

NAME ONE COACH who graduates his players and is 1/2 the disciplinarian than Tubs.

Start playing the Jeopardy theme.

By shane #1

April 1, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Ed, I understand what You are trying to say, but I attended school in a different era. Guns were not allowed on college campuses, but at My high school boys often left a shotgun in Their truck for an afternoon Dove shoot or Quail hunt. Nobody gave it a second thought. In those days incidents like Columbine and Virginia Tech were unthinkable. Everything has changed today. Kids need to leave the guns at home. I will say this,Missy State took quick action. I think these two Guys were expelled before They were bailed out.

By m

April 1, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

We’re probably lucky that the entire Tech fanbase didn’t turn to guns, and a possible mass suicide, from the severe depresssion of watching Chan Gailey destroy Tech football over a 6 year period. Somehow, someway, we made it through the horrendous (and UNNECESSARY) Gailey debacle. Thank God and Greyhound that Gailey is gone FOREVER!! Hallleeeedamlooooyah!! Tech football is back.

By Dave

April 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Roswell Ed, by the way I’m a card carrying Republican and I DO believe in ownership of guns and own 2 myself. But the key is RESPONSIBLE ownership. Teenagers and college kids have NO BUSINESS with a gun. I’m a firm believer that teenagers and most college kids don’t have the commen sense of a cucumber and think they can do whatever the hayell they want to. They have no business with a gun. Teachers and staff is another story. If a teacher had a gun at VT, they should have emptied the clip on that freako kid, popped another clip in and empty it again to make sure he was dead. Of course, I’m being sarcastic, but grown ups should have the commen sense to know how and why to own a gun. Of course this isn’t always the case, but at least it puts us on an equal playing field as the nut jobs that go sootng p the place because they don’t like the hand they’ve been dealt.

But college kids with a gun need a 2 x 4 to the behind along with a size 14 boot on the way to the jail cell.

By RAMBLE ON!

April 1, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

We interrupt this Jeopardy music, to bring you PAUL JOHNSON, Roswell Ediot.

PAUL JOHNSON IS A BAAAADDD MAAAN!!!!

…hmm, what a shock Tony!!!! SEC and felonies?

By Left to Right

April 1, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Most of you seem to be missing the point of Tony’s post. He is not debating the pros and cons of whether guns should be allowed on campus, he is pointing out the fact that currently it is against the law for a student to have a gun on campus and that the penalties for having a gun are (rightly or wrongly) quite severe. Ergo, student athletes, if they do not want to be charged with a crime and kicked out of school, should not have guns on campus as it is against there self-interests to do so.

Tony’s point is a fairly simple one, and I half-suspect there is some trolling going on by certain posters.

By Chuck

April 1, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Since the debate has become guns on campus, I just have a few questions? Does anyone on here think they would feel better if a student had a concealed weapon and was able to shoot the lunatic at Va. Tech that day when he was half-way through his rampage? Would it be alright if only 15 or so people were killed that day? Or would everyone have felt better if Mr. Kim didn’t have access to any guns and no one died that day?

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Whose talking about teenagers?

You must be 21 to own a concealed weapons license in the state of Georgia.

By PTC DAWG

April 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

How is the things you forbid even possible? Our Government has forbid them, made campuses “gun free zones”. How can it even happen? Much like the “war on drugs”, it’s a waste of time and money.

I for one think it would be better if maybe a few folks on campus did have guns and knew how to use them.

By RAMBLE ON!

April 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

This is not about GUN Control. This is about more thugs in the SEC!!!

I ready for the unrelated Jaybo comparison (who hasn’t taken one class at GT yet).

By shane #1

April 1, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Rambleon, unfortunately guns and kids can happen anywhere,not just with football players in the SEC. Have You forgotten what happened at VT? I have an idea. Why don’t You take the blinders of hate off and look around. You might see something scary, but then again You might learn something. That way You don’t have to spend the rest of your life being an idiot.

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Rub-one off:

Do you have anything to bring to the discussion except that you

don’t think too highly of the SEC student athlete?

We get it.

Do you keep your 5 different posts on your clipboard

to save time?

Let me guess you are now contemplating going over to your clipboard and

[Cntrl C]

At least we beat AU twice.

[Cntrl V]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Answer: Rub-one off

Question: Who is consistently boring, uninspired and brings nothing original to any conversation?

YAWN!!

By 3 Rivers jacket

April 1, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Me thinks Roswell Ed is one of those guys who listens to Boortz and drinks his kool aid without thinking. I like Boortz but the idea of everyone on a college campus pasking guns is ridiculous. heck I bet old Ed would not let many of these kids take his car to the car wash. Even Boortz will admit that his position on this was done to be provocative not sincere. maybe that is what old Ed is doing. Whatever it is idiotic.

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Never listen to Boortz.

After the 15th hundred speech about his damn plane I had to change the dial.

I never said that all students should carry guns by the way.

I don’t want to carry or own a gun but I know people who do and I trust them to handle that responibility that has been licensed to them.

By Patriot Henry

April 1, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF.

DO NOT DEFEND OTHERS.

DO BE AN UNWITTING UNTHINKING SHEEP.

GO TO THE SLAUGHTER.

In the event of a mass shooting - panic and get shot. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO STOP THE SHOOTER WHO IS SHOOTING YOU - YOU MIGHT GET SHOT.

“There is no sense debating any of this, but feel free to do so if you’d like. But here is the reality. Law enforcement has its marching orders. “

DO NOT RESIST THE ENCROACHING POLICE STATE.

DO NOT QUESTION THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT.

DO NOT COMMIT ACTS OF CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

OBEY. BEHAVE. COMPLY.

DO AS YOU ARE TOLD.

SUBMIT TO THE AUTHORITY FIGURES IN YOUR LIFE.

OBEY YOUR PARENTS. OBEY YOUR SCHOOL. OBEY THE GOVERNMENT. YOU MUST OBEY.

DO NOT STUDY THE HISTORY OF GUN BANS. IGNORE THAT ALL MAJOR GENOCIDES ARE PRECEDED BY GUN BANS. DO NOT DOUBT THE VALIDITY OF GUN BANS.

TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. HAVE BLIND FAITH IN THE GOVERNMENT. RELY UPON OTHERS TO DEFEND YOU. RELY UPON OTHERS TO THINK FOR YOU. RELY UPON OTHERS TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. RELY UPON OTHERS TO TELL YOU WHAT PROPERTY YOU AND CAN NOT OWN.

You are a serf - learn it, love it, and stop thinking about it.

By TK Harty

April 1, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Amen Henry!

By ActuaryDawg

April 1, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Chuck,

Of course we would have felt better if no guns were available to Kim and nobody had died at VT that day. The problem is that the ban on guns on VT campus did NOT prevent Kim from bringing a gun on campus. It DID prevent licensed, law abiding gun owners from carrying their guns on campus. Unfortunatly, nut jobs don’t pay much attention to gun laws. There aren’t too many potential mass murderers that change their minds because they don’t want to violate a campus ban on firearms.

The logic is completely linear. Criminals that break laws don’t abide by gun control laws. People that need protection from these criminals do abide by gun control laws. Therefore, gun control laws only keep guns out of the hands of people that would use them to protect themselves.

By teacherman

April 1, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Great posting, Patriot Henry. Very Orwellian.

By chief jay

April 1, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

If you want a clear picture of what a society looks like when everyone has guns, visit the Middle East. Things are going pretty well there, right? Anyone willing to move to Basra this week? I think you get a free AK-47 when you sign a lease!

Where do criminals get the guns? If regular citizens had more firearms, wouldn’t it follow that criminals eventually would have more as well?

By shane #1

April 1, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Do We really want some of these people carrying guns on campus? I am a gun owner, an experenced hunter and I was at one time a competitive shooter. My Grandfather was a gunsmith and I spent much of My youth in His home. So I am no stranger to guns, and have no irrational fear of guns, but I also know how stupid some young people can be. Just look at the subjects of this blog. Speaking of poor decision making, Ryan Perrilloux is still barred from practice. It seems that CLM set some minimum standars for Him to meet related to academic work,{yes rambleon,You read that right}, and football related activites that Ryan hasn’t met. So He is still not allowed on the field. Miles should have one of the tutors whispering these words into Perrilloux’s ear all day long. “Branden Ore, Branden Ore.” No Man is so valuable that He can’t, or won’t, be replaced.

By RAMBLE ON!

April 1, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Sometimes on this blog you listen to Roswell Ediot who is so magnificently self-contradicting that I’m left in awe at his lack of introspection. Is it really possible to be so blissfully unaware that you’re practically redefining the parameters of hyposcrisy — without even realizing that you’re doing so?

“Answer: Rub-one off

Question: Who is consistently boring, uninspired and brings nothing original to any conversation?”

YAWN!!….yea, very orginal there Ed.

I’m sorry, felony and SEC football seems to be something you and shanes “blinders” don’t seem to notice.

It is a FELONY to have a gun on college campus.

I for one, don’t like or need guns, but believe responsible adults should have the right to own one.

By Roswell Ed

April 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

I thought the copy, paste and clipboard were very original.

I started the thread with a post that completely disagreed with TB. That’s thinking outside of the box.

Why am I a hypocrite?

What was self contradicting?

Just like if you always tell the truth- if you are a libertarian you never have to remember what you said.

By Whisk E. Clear

April 1, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Yeah, look at the Middle East if you want to see what society looks like when everyone has a gun…right…

How bout we look at Tibet? How bout we look at Western Darfur? How bout we look at the break up of the Yugoslavian Empire?

While Mogadishu may be a perfect example of how much can be accomplished with a machine gun, there are legion examples of what can be accomplished when ordinary citizens are denied means to defend themselves.

Eliminating the citizens right to defend himself is NOT the answer.

By Yellowblood

April 1, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Please leave Tech out of this discussion. We are smarter than you all therefore our athletes are allowed to drink and have guns. That’s because we are smarter than all you other folks. That’s right we’re smarter. Did I mention that we are smarter and by the way we are smarter.

By making sense

April 1, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

Chief Jay…

Only an intellectual lilliputian would draw a potential parallel between an armed middle east and an armed US of A.

The problem here is not one of merely who “has more guns”, its the cultures that wield them and their fundamental characteristics. Of course, to a mulicultural moral equivacator such as yourself, there are not differences between us and them…

By Gutrake

April 1, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

So, what do we mean by lining up in the “shotgun”, who’s gonna’ play “gunner” and throw the “the bomb” occasionally?

By Gutrake

April 1, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

Furthermore, how about…”we don’t rebuild—we reload.”

By Gutrake

April 1, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Funny, ain’t it?

By War Eagle

April 1, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

shane#1, I think Ryan is back with LSU., he is listed on the current roster. I saw this last Friday on the Auburn board, he could be gone again?? Athletes have come from a six pack of beer discipline to 38 calibers deadly weapons. Our country does not have family values as the past, Hollywood, explicit TV where guns, violence and language is on exhibit in video`s. and movies.

By War Eagle

April 1, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

shane#1, update on Ryan Perrillou, he was admitted back to spring training last week. he is gone again from a cafe` incident this weekend…what a loser…

By RAMBLE ON!!!

April 1, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

ROSWELL EDIOT, you accuse me of using the same ole worn out lame crap, while using your same ole worn out lame crap jeopardy jokes, that’s only funny to your choir, all two of them.

OK I get it, you’re super smart cause you’ve never missed an episode of jeopardy. (Probably even got a special library at home for them).

But, I’m only messing with you, I’m done calling you out, but you brought the wrath. Knowing you wish I was being water boarded, has brought me enough satisfaction. I must rise above. That’s part of being a GT Man. (I bet you really loved that one).

Heck since this is all about politics, I say water board the Ba$tard$!!!!

By Miles

April 1, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

People, Mr. Barnhart’s message is that student athletes need to be civilly responsible. To argue with one another about gun rights and gun ownership is to miss the point. In fact, to partake in discourse that accentuates topics pertaining to guns, self-defense, constitutional rights, etc. is an insult to the very message Mr. Barnhart is intending.

By shane #1

April 2, 2008 6:52 AM | Link to this

War Eagle, you are right as usual, We have a breakdown in family values and respect for others in America today. Three third graders were arrested in Waycross Tuesday for plotting to murder Their teacher. They had smuggled tape, handcuffs, and a knife into school to carry out Their plot. The plan was reported to involve forcing the teacher into an empty room, handcuffing Her, taping Her to a chair, and torturing Her before killing Her. These kids ranged from 8 to 10 years old. Rambleon, go on thinking that weapons and violence are an SEC problems and that there are no “thugs”, as You call them, at Tech. I pray that You are right, but I hope the GT administration is smarter and better prepared than You are. BTW, War Eagle, I did not know about the “cafe incident”, I got My info off an LSU site that quoted Miles, and He didn’t give any details, other than to sat that Perrilloux had not followed tha steps that He had told the QB were necessary to rejoin the team. I think the kid had read too many of His press clippings and got the big head. Ryan, just keep butting heads with Your HC son, You will be washing dishes for a living at the “Cajun Crab Shack” before You know it!