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Why is Muschamp headed to Texas?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
New Orleans-It’s media day at the BCS championship game. Both LSU and Ohio State will bring their entire teams, in uniform without pads, to the Superdome and each will have an hour-long session.
Rarely does any news or anything really interesting come out of this because by now the players and the coaches have been dealing with the media horde for several days and really have their guards up. But if there is news I’ll get back to you this afternoon.
But there is interesting stuff going on elsewhere:
Why is Will Muschamp going to Texas? I tried to reach the Auburn defensive coordinator and former Georgia Bulldog, who has decided to leave Auburn to take the same job at Texas. Based on previous conversations with Will, I know that he really wants to be a head coach sooner rather than later. He saw the fact that Gene Chizik (Iowa State) and Greg Robinson (Syracuse) both used the DC position at Texas as a launching pad to a head coaching job. I just think you can get there as easily from Auburn as you can from Texas. Gotta believe money was involved as well.
What about Jon Tenuta? Looks like he’s going to be busy. LSU is going to need a defensive coordinator after Monday night’s BCS championship game. Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville is going to the coaching convention where he will be looking for a DC. Could Georgia Tech’s Tenuta be going to the SEC? Jeff Casteel, the current defensive coordinator at West Virginia, is thinking about joining Rich Rodriguez at Michigan, according to published reports. If he stays at West Virginia, Tenuta will be a candidate at Michigan.
Another tough year for the ACC: The biggest surprise of the bowl season was the way West Virginia took care of Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. But the second biggest surprise to me was Virginia Tech losing to Kansas. I thought the Hokies came into the game playing just about as well as anyone. But Kansas played great and deserved to win.
The loss gave the ACC a 2-6 bowl record this season. Since the BCS was founded in 1998, the ACC is now 1-9 in BCS appearances. The only win was Florida State over Virginia Tech (then a member of the Big East) in the 1999 national championship game at the Sugar Bowl.
Mangino a class act: Speaking of Kansas, I got a chance to spend some time with head coach Mark Mangino last night as the Football Writers Association of America honored him as the Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year. To go 12-1 at Kansas is quite a feat. Coach Mangino had been up all night celebrating the Orange Bowl victory with his players and staff and then flew straight from Miami to accept the award. He was very gracious and very appreciative. He told me that the challenge now is to sustain the program, something that has been difficult to do at Kansas.




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By ugadawg95
January 5, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
first like a mug!
By Tom
January 5, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Why is Will Muschamp going to Texas? Been to Auburn/Opelika and to Austin…Nuf said!
By gastr1
January 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
But Mangino wouldn’t let his players dump the gatorade on him at the end of the game. Did you ask him what was up with that?
By Bird
January 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
“Mangino wouldn’t let his players dump gatorade on him”
Maybe he’s trying to teach them to grow-up and to do things their own way - instead of copying a stupid feat that was tired after the second time it was done.
By Dawgs will Lose
January 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Looks like Uga let another guy get away. First, Vangorder now Muschamp and just wait when the fire Willie folks will come out in full force after the game in Columbia ,S.C. .
By flip
January 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
If Chizik’s and Robinson’s records at ISU and Syracuse are examples of what happens to Texas DCs when they get a head coaching job, Muschamp might want to rethink this move.
By DawgGrad311
January 5, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
Is the ACC’s BCS and bowl record a suprise to anyone? Everyone thought the addition of VT and Miami would add the steroid effect to the wACC, but it has just added more mediocrity to a weakening conference.
But wait!…PJ is going to turn GT back into the powerhouse they used to be when they still used leather helmets…just wait, you’ll see.
By GT
January 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
I am surprise someone like SMU didn’t pick up Muschamp as their head coach. With all the openings and no offers it had to be discouraging. I am thinking as soon as Muschamp becomes a head coach he will bring his brother from Lovett to be an offensive coach, one of the best high school coaches in the country. One down side with Texas, he probably will be coaching out west somewhere as opposed to the ACC or SEC. A man can get lost out west in college football. I think that is why the coach at TCU never gets any offers. On Virginia Tech, was that the worst offensive game plan of the season? It looked like they were more interested in developing next’s year’s talent than winning.
By Doug
January 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
How did Georgia “let Muschamp get away” when he wasn’t even on the UGA coaching staff to begin with?
Muschamp is a great motivator and a damn good Dawg, but Georgia’s last three outings against his defenses produced 45, 37, and 45 points. Meanwhile, Willie Martinez’s defense just brass-knuckled Hawaii into their lowest point total in three and a half years. Once upon a time there were a lot of folks in Bulldog Nation clamoring for him to replace Martinez, but you don’t hear a whole lot from those folks these days.
By reality check
January 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
What team do you support Dawgs will lose? Is it South Carolina since you mention Columbia? Things will return to normal this year. Georgia will beat the chickens in Columbia and I don’t think it will be close. South Carolina is doing what it has done before when they have brought in a coach who has won a NC somewhere else…some improvement for a couple of years then decline. This was supposed to be Spurrier’s breakout year but 6-6 sounds more like a breakdown than a breakout.
Willie Martinez has Georgia’s defense playing as well as any in the country. After last year’s top 10 defense Georgia returned only 3 starters this year and everybody with any sense knew they would struggle early then hopefully come on in the second half of the year. They did that based on good coaching by Martinez and his staff and exceeded everybody’s expectations in doing so. Georgia’s defense is still young, but we now have experience, exceptional talent and speed, and depth. Georgia will be one of the nation’s dominant defensive teams under Martinez next year.
Georgia will finish this year ranked in the top 3 for sure and maybe second. To anyone capable of logical thought that is a great and unexpected accomplishment in a rebuilding year. With all the players Georgia has returning the future is bright, at least to anyone capable of logical thought.
By GW
January 5, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
VT has always been mostly clueless on offense. Coach Tub may have given Franklin more $$$ than Muschamp so he bolted. UGA survived Martinez’s on-the-job training so why run him off now?
By Trajan
January 5, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
No doubt, the ACC has has taken it on the chin the past few years, choking some big games (although UMd, Clemson, FSU, UVa AND VaTech were hardly emabarassing blow outs) and certainly the BCS record is self evident. I believe this is mostly attributed to atrocious QB play and a spotty coaching carrousel. But things like this are cyclical and the ACC will be back (lest we forget recent history and when the league dominated the NFL draft in 2006 and was #1 in the unbiased Sagarin rankings in ‘05 and ‘04). The coaching has stabilized and there’s too much talent and allure at these fine schools. The NFL has always been a great barometer of league prowess and to date the SEC had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences. The ACC was second with 238 players, followed by the Big Ten with 234 players, Pac-10 with 183 players, Big 12 with 176 players and the Big East with 84 players.
By flip
January 5, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Slight correction Doug… Muschamp’s last three defenses gave up 30, 37 and 45 points to UGA.
By My View
January 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
No Doug you don’t hear that a lot. I was one who thought it was time for a change, but CWM has certainly shut me up!!!
By Dan
January 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Both Texas and Auburn offered him $425,000 so the money has nothing to do with it.
Texas is by every tangible measure a better program than Auburn.
By Dawgs will Lose
January 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Hey Doug…. I know he wasnt on the staff. Uga should have hired him and make him Co - Defensive coordinator .Pay out the big money for coaches and you will reap the benefits. Looks like ole Saban has thumped ole UGA down a notch in Recriuting at Bama. Bama is now # 2 Uga 3. Ole CMR just cant quite get over the hump. Saban comes in 1 year and already has the # 2 recruiting class.Uga supposedly has all of these resources and cant capitalize to have a Natonal Championship team what a bunch of under achievers!
By DirtyDawg
January 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
I suspect Will figured that any more performances like the ones against UGA and Tommy’ll be dumping him like a used taco. Once upon a time Tuberville considered loyalty a virture…then he dumped on Ole Miss…followed by dumping his long-time assistants when the heat was on after only a year or two at Auburn…and most recently he dumped his offensive coordinator…so could Will have been far behind?
I think Tommy Tuberville is the most Machiavellian head coach in college football…and the guilt-trip UA has had over the Petrino deal some years back has pretty-much worn thin…hand-writing on the wall and all that?
By brink
January 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
1.6M over 3 years is why Muschamp is going to Texass.
By alabamadawg
January 5, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Not meaning to change subjects, but is there any good gossip on any recuits lately ??
By DirtyDawg
January 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
A little bird told me to take Kansas in the pool…or was it that I remembered how UGA took it to ‘em last year…or other lame-a** performances I’ve witnessed from VT? Regardless, that pick didn’t make up for how sorry Oklahoma, Florida and Boise State performed - all as prohibitive favorites. And don’t even get me started on Arkansas and Georgia Tech - what was I thinking?
By Dawgs will Lose
January 5, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Reality Check…. No Im not a lame chicken fan. I wont reveal my team but I will give a clue…. Its one of the teams you hate that likes ORANGE. Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Okla ST., Tenn., maybe even Syracuse! My observation of the UGA-SC games of past is that UGA seems to have problems with that team no matter who the coach!And Spuurier has given Uga fits since he has been there. And dont give the 18-0 win crap either. That game was a lot closer than the score indicates!
By reality check
January 5, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
You really seem to have a thing for those 6-6 programs Dawgs will Lose. First South Carolina now Alabama. Then you have the the temerity to call Richt an underachiever.
Tell us something positive about the team you support. Only losers criticize success.
By GT
January 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
If Georgia had won the SEC championship Schultz would have been the first man on the courthouse steps crying about them not playing in the championship game. Why after this year does anybody think they are an expert on handicapping college football teams? What looks like a sure thing is not. Unfortunately nice guys like Richt have to get into the spin game or they will be striped of their place by another artist from another school, network or publication. The conference process is the closest thing we have to a playoff. It is one of the few things hot air doesn’t control in college football. The participates line up at the starting line and the best in that system wins the conference. Georgia wasn’t the best. The BCS lined USC and Georgia up with exceptionally easy opponents, unlike Florida or Auburn so now those two teams are forgotten while we talk about how great Georgia or USC is. Since USC doesn’t play anybody next year or most years they will continue to look good. Georgia is a marked team in the SEC with home games at Auburn, South Carolina and a Florida team looking for a little revenge. They will beat most teams by 21 points but that one off week at Vandy or Kentucky when they are down that other team, because of all this press will be up. That doesn’t work in the SEC; the up team usually beats the down team. A playoff is the only way a conference like the SEC doesn’t get screwed and then it is just a few teams, LSU will win the national championship for the second time in five years this year, and Florida won it last year. The winner of the SEC has an opportunity to win the national championship every year unless it is Auburn which is the only school I think has been really screwed in the SEC and they got screwed twice for good measure. A case study in PR management, or in Auburn’s case lack of it, and the glove of evidence that a playoff is the only way.
By Dawgs will Lose
January 5, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Reality Check…. Richt is a good coach no doubt but he has a tendencey to choke on big games. Heck even SC had to help UGA back into the last SEC championship game. Then the dawgs got embarrased by WVU in the Sugar. Also Alabama Still owns the dawgs and SC beat the dawgs this past season. So face reality Reality!
By Hoopie1
January 5, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
CMR has recruited top 10 and most years top 5 classes, but has not delivered those same results on the field. Recruiting is not an exact science, but LSU and SOCAl have done better. Miami and Tenn have done worse than UGA. Regardless of this one issue, CMR has numerous enviable head coach qualities WDE
By shane #1
January 5, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
dogs will lose,spurrier will upset one or two teams in the sec every year by pure coaching ability and drive.this year it happened to be the dogs,next year it may be any of the”orange”teams.he has no love for uga but he also would love to beat ut or uf,even au if they are on his schedule.the man certainly has a thing for phat phil,and any coach likes to beat their alma mater.however ole steve just doesn’t have the horses to win the sec.steve was never one of my favorites,he is arrogant and i don’t like the way he publicly berates his qbs.i will give him credit for his loyalty,i never expected him to stay at usc this long.i don’t think the obc will beat uga next year but i will bet all i have that he will upset one of the”big three”,thats uga,uf,or ut.
By reality check
January 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
The reality is Georgia has had one of the most successful programs in this millenium averaging more than 10 wins a season. None of the programs you referenced can say that.
You are too ashamed to even say who you support? That really speaks volumes about you.
I have no respect for people who criticize success. I’m done with this.
By Tugaloo
January 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Dogs will lose!! Why are you so obsessed with beating UGA? Your greatest threat comes from within—- THE CHICKEN CURSE! It swallowed Mr. Magoo (Lou Holtz) and others and now is slowly consuming SOS who has been an abject failure in the NFL and is nearly dead in the water in Columbia. Perhaps along with better recruiting, an exorcist might help to banish this seemingly everlasting evil spirit. Heal and freed from mediocrity!!! Go Tigers!!!
By shane #1
January 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
reality check,don’t waste any more time on this guy,he isn’t supporting any team,just a hater.gt,good post,very well thought out.we must remember why all the hot air artist are making predictions on espn and fox sports.they sell shoes,beer,cars,athletic wear,and etc.since the population is so much higher in the west,east and midwest these teams will always get the boost from the talking heads.it’s simply demographics.because of it’s smaller markets the south,except fl,will always be last on the list.there are more viewers,meaning higher ratings and more ad revenues,in other parts of the country.the pac ten and big ten will always have a team in the running for a nc because of this fact.i think one of the main unspoken reasons auburn was passed over in 2004 was because of it’s small market base.remember that tubby gave espn a lot of”credit”for auburn being left out of the ncg.
By DirtyDawg
January 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
dogs will lose…are you really that stupid, or is it that you just think we are? CMR chokes in big games? First, every game in the SEC is big. You never go out expecting to lose but when you do you have to give the other guy some credit…Embarrassed by WVA? Yeah, they jumped us early (speed combined by the finest offensive-line-holding technique seen in years), but we came within a nat’s-a** of the greatest comeback in Sugar Bowl history - final score was 38-35 after WVA had scored 28 points in the first fifteen or twenty minutes. Alabama ‘owns us’? Since when? Bear Bryant? You’re smoking something, right? And yes Coach Superior finally beat Georgia since returning to the SEC - after three, or was it four, tries. Wonder if he still thinks that ‘it wasn’t as if they beat some great team’…and as for next year, CMR will have way too much class to make a similarly snide comment after we pound them in Columbia.
Now tell me, what ‘reality’ could you possibly be living in?
By rhett
January 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Sure Texas may be more high profile but it is like leaving your hot 9.2 wife for one that is a 9.6. Like Brad Pitt leaving Jennifer Anniston for Angelina Jolie?
He was in line to be the highest paid coordinator in the SEC this year. He had the talent coming back and Tubbs always goes to bat for his assistants when negotiating his own contract (check the payroll).
Gotta be purely career- move while you have momentum. He already turned down Southern Miss so appears to be looking for a Top 15-20 job.
By DeacinGA
January 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
So the ACC has a 2-6 bowl record this season. I’m loving the fact that 2 private schools have the 2 wins: Wake Forest & BC. Guess the state schools just don’t have what it takes…
By The Old Pitbull
January 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Mark it down: August 30, 2008
There will be 73,000+ in the Georgia Dome for the Alabama - Clemson game.
There will be less than 30,000 at Grant Field for the Georgia Tech - Jacksonville State game.
Ironic, isn’t it?
By shane #1
January 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
now to tony’s points.1-sometimes a lateral move can help one get to the top.will may have seen more hc openings in the future out west.one thing is for sure,the sec is pretty well coached from top to bottom,or lsu to vandy,not much chance to move up here. 2-tenuta is a hot commodity right now.lsu,au,wvu,mich,not too shabby!good time to make a move,and some big bucks. 3-vt has not impressed me at all.crappy offense and the way they caved in after getting a big lead on uga in atlanta last year.miami and fsu are recruiting well this year and their coaching has stabalized.bowden will probably retire after next year and fisher will be at least competent.the miami coach has cleaned house and can now rebuild that program.both will be back on top in a couple of years.tech,if you want to make a move you had better do it now! 5-i like the fat man too,i could play for him!btw,there is a rumor circulating in south ga that clemson is eyeing a switch to the sec.have any of you heard this?
By Dawgbyte
January 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Dawgs will lose. I would like to take you seriously but to do so would be an affront to your “intelligence”.
By Lane
January 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
My guess is that coaching for the “tubby” man is not a pleasurable experience - good luck Will. Auburn coordinators always seem to be in a state of flux - not good!!
We are lucky to have MR
By Puh-leeze
January 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
VT is one of the most overrated programs in college football. Even when they were getting manhandled by LSU early in the season the announcers couldn’t help but hype Tyrod Taylor and talk about “next year”. They routinely perform poorly against other non-ACC BCS teams and choke in bowl games. They have always played in a weak conference, either the Big East or ACC, and always play a weak OOC schedule. They rack up wins and defensive stats against weak competition. And this whole “Beamer Ball” thing is beyond laughable. There are undoubtedly several top teams with better special teams than VT. I’m just calling it like I see it on this one.
By Bob
January 5, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Hoopie,
“CMR has recruited top 10 and most years top 5 classes, but has not delivered those same results on the field”.
Does this make sense Hoopie? Mark Richt has not delivered? Final Rankings after his first year…2002 3; 2003 7; 2004 7; 2005 10; 2006 23; 2007 Somewhere between 2 and 4. Your statement is pretty dumb when you actually research what you are talking about. Five of the last six years he has been coaching at UGA his teams have finished in the Top Ten, so just how has he not delivered? Some of you folks are dumber than dirt.
By Mike T.
January 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
By Dawgs will Lose
Man give it up. Nobody has any interest in what you got to say.After your lame brain predict that Hawaii would route Georgia, its clear all you wanna do is bad mouth Georgia.(like we didn’t really know already)
By Bob
January 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Hoopie,
Since 2000, which includes Donnan’s last year and Richt’s first year, UGA has finished in the final Top Ten 4 times. This year will make 5 times. After 2007, the Top Ten finishes since 2000 will look like this:
USC (6);OSU (5);LSU (5);OU (5); UGA (5);Tex (4); Mia (4);UF (3); WVU (3);VT (3)
Sounds like you are an Auburn fan so you above anyone else ought to know how much luck is involved in just getting to the NC game.
No, I would say that Mark Richt has more than delivered and has certainly not choked.
By Halberstram
January 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Why did Muschamp go to Texas?
It’s easy, with Tuberville’s penchant for firing or leaving his coordinators out to dry, why wouldn’t someone leave for a good offer? I believe that Tubbs is a good coach, but he has no loyalty to his assistants. So who can blame anyone for leaving him.
By NASCARfan
January 5, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Dawgs Will Lose says he won’t reveal his team. Why is that, DWL? Are you ASHAMED of your team? Seems to me, your admission of orange is meant to throw us off the scent. No REAL Gaturd, Volunqueer, or any combination of Tiggers/War Eagles would be ashamed to let us know. No, DWL… you are most certainly a BUG. And you will always be a BUG to those of us on this board. If you’re not, all you have to do is let us know who you root for.
Oh, and btw, your handle of “Dawgs Will Lose,” also points to your Bug-nature. The Bugs always, ALWAYS, measure themselves not on if their team wins, but on if ours LOSES. I know, it’s crazy and counterproductive when the Dawgs under Richt are winning 11 games a year and only losing 2 on average (none to the Bugs). So you give yourself away. While our friend General Neyland is obviously a Tennessee fan, and our friend War Eagle is obviously an Auburn fan, and the ever-annoying GamecockGary is obviously a Lamecock fan, you are obviously a BUG, and your handle gives you away.
And Tony, we ALL know the reason why Muschamp left Auburn for Texas. It’s EASIER to win in the Big XII and get recognized for your work as a coordinator and get a head coaching job when you come out of an easy conference like that. Coach Van should have gotten some head coaching gigs out of Georgia and never did. Jimbo Fisher should have been the head coach at any number of openings the last two years. Charlie Strong should have been a head coach YEARS ago. In the SEC, it’s hard to get recognition because it’s so damn hard to win year in and year out the way a Texas can win in their conference.
It’s really quite simple, Tony.
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Dawgs Will Lose, Why would Dawgs go after Muschamp??? If Co-D Coord. move was made (which I haven’t, unlike some on these pages have, insisted upon a change) it would make more sense to promote Rodney Garner who continues to Coach up his charges and send them into the NFL like a factory assembly line. More than I can say for point a minute Muschamp has allowed versus UGA.
By robby
January 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
great question ! great coaches seem to be moving into the sec not out…money? austin is a great city to live in? maybe its the greater national spotlight due to the larger population and media outlets in texas…everything is bigger there…really…lol
auburn has a GREAT tradition but in that intagible area…the ‘gut feel’ they are second fiddle to the might crimson tide and the state of alabama just isnt the state of texas in the public mind…maybe that translates into a bigger bounce into the head coaching ranks…
but i really have no idea…
i can tell u tho as a georgia grad coach martinez is a fine bulldog…
i think mangino is great!!! i wuz so happy for him and the jayhawks…
and uh…will forever ignore negative comments about head coach mark richt…
go dogs! keep learnin more everyday staff!!!!! wit knowshon and caleb and a defense uga could become scarie good…man can u throw a football
By Hoopie1
January 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Bob, you are right, I spouted from a poor memory and made a mistake. So you do you feel better now?
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Got to say that I am vehemently opposed to these HS All-Star games. Viewed some today and all I can see is what you would expect in trying to throw together a group in one week. Poor execution, guys taking late shots in an effort to try to hit the highlight reel, etc. All I see is over-the-top commercialization at the risk of a career hampering/ending injury.
By shane #1
January 5, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
quaildog,good point,i don’t like the co-dc idea anyway,there can only be one at the top if you wany good leadership.randy gardner has been well rewarded,as of last year he was our highest paid defensive coach.i have an idea coach willie will get a raise this year,he certainly deserves one.cmr will have to work hard to keep theses asst coaches in the fold.btw,i am watching the underarmor high school all-american game.jarboe committed to oklahoma,sorry tide and gator fans!allen,our te commitment,won the pass catching competition.the battle to back up trip at te should be real intresting this year.
By Bob
January 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Yes Hoopie.
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Tony, How about an assessment of this year in College Football? One of the burning questions I have is why hasn’t the media been turning up the heat on Pete Carroll on what has to be the second biggest disappoinment this year, outside of Michigan. USC was annointed a spot in New Orleans in July. We were told they were loaded at every position and this was to be their best team ever!!! Since then all I have heard were excuses regarding injuries (what happened to the “loaded” mantra) for their dismal loss (at home no less to a 40+ point dog) to Stanford and hey I won’t even hold the Oregon game against them. Naturally I am a Homer in regards to UGA but the Dawgs suffered the loss for the better part of the season to their two top RB’s, Several games having to shuffle LB’s around, PK out for a couple of games, and a SS who missed several games. USC can put lipstick on this pig called their season (and beating a clearly overmatched Ill doesn’t count) but deep down they have to know they screwed the pooch on this year and hopefully (this is a real reach) the pollsters, should LSU win< won’t backdoor USC into #1 in AP as you mentioned yesterday. They rightfully should be held accountable for that Stanford loss, regardless of when or why (which makes no sense)it happened.
By War Eagle
January 5, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
shane#1, sometimes greatness can be put on different levels, CMR has done outstanding with 2 SEC titles, bowl wins, top 5 recruiting classes and W-L`s. There is a lack of greatness in his young legency…NO National Championship where other LSU, Florida, Texas, USC won NC with same intake of high school talent. This year UGA was not a top 2 team. They finish strong, but like several years something has gone wrong..If he fails after 2008 class, well I doubt if will never happen in his career. Hope I am wrong. Coach Muschamp did not get a 1.6 m contract, $500,000 plus heavy perks and soon to be head coaching job…I hope.
By War Eagle
January 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Just heard, UGA # 1 recruiting class after AJ Harmon commitment…CONGRATULATIONS
By Bob
January 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
War Eagle,
I respect your opinion as always. Must respectfully disagree a tad though on Richt. What really is the difference between Richt’s 13-1 in 02 and Meyer’s 13-1 in 06? The difference is that in 02 neither Miami or OSU lost their final game. UGA had no control over that. In 06, USC lost to heavy underdog UCLA and the pollsters reconsidered leaving Michigan ahead of them for the much ballyhood “rematch” of what Kirk Herbstreit constantly referred to as “clearly the best two teams in the country”. Florida had zero control over either of these issues. In 04, what was the difference between your SEC championship and OU’s Big Twelve Championship? I suspect the difference was that Auburn would have given USC a far better game. Still, you had no control over the fact that two other undefeated teams finished ahead of you despite your being undefeated and having played a significantly more challenging schedule than OU.
Tom Osborne was forever being bashed before he finally won his first National Championship. Then he won 3. Sometimes the stars are aligned and a new coach gets a quick championship…Carr, Stoops, Meyer, Tressel. Others have taken more time…Fulmer, Osborne, Devaney, Mack Brown, Paterno, Dooley. Even ole SOS didn’t win his until year 8.
I agree that Mark Richt’s resume` will never be totally complete until they win a National Championship, but that does not make them anything less than an outstanding coach. Bo Schembechler never won one and I don’t think anyone thinks less of him.
By Stephen
January 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
We Are Texas!!!
Why Muschamp to Texas?
Muschamp has told friends privately that he didn’t go to Texas for the interview with the intention of taking the job, but he was “blown away” by what he saw and what he experienced when he got there.
Hook’em
By War Eagle
January 5, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Bob, very good post, you made several good points and I agree,time is an essence, but really CMR has been bless with solid talent at ALL positions especially at QB since his arrival. I hope UGA wins every game except Auburn, but if you have read my post last several years I have always had this glib with CMR, who is a fine man and good for UGA.Frankly, I am tired of butt kicking on 2nd Saturday in November too.
By every year the same
January 5, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
reality said above that uga did good this year in a rebuilding year. Funny, you dogs say that every year. Is next year a rebuilding year too?
Did uga still go after AJ even after he committed to Clemson?
ESPN radio guy was talking down about rike today about his new personality. Win at any cost.
By Bob
January 5, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
I know War Eagle. It is a pleasure to have you and General Neyland on these boards as you add a little “balance” and perspective to our sometimes telescopic views. My feelings about AU are the same.
At the Hilton Bar and Grill in New Orleans on New Years Eve, the place went crazy when AU scored the OT TD to beat Clemson. The bar tender couldn’t understand why the UGA fans got so excited.
Looking forward to next year on the Plains.
By FLA DAWG
January 5, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
War Eagle,
I’m a little confused - why would Muschamp leave the SEC for Texas (usually a great team that performs like an SEC member)for the same job?
I understand about more money but his goal is Head Coach. Now he has to start from scratch at Texas and build up a reputation there - if he can do it - we all know nothing is certain. I’d have thought his chances of getting a decent Head Coaching job would be better staying at Auburn where he has had so much success.
By TDone
January 5, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
To the Old Pitbull, no matter how many fans are at the Georgia Tech-Jacksonville State game, they all will be smarter and more educated than you are.
By Poor Haters
January 5, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
Every year the same indeed. Every year Georgia wins 10+ games and cry baby haters can’t handle it. Wawawawawawawawa…cry babies cry. UGA fans are meanies. Where is my mommy? My god get a life.
Next year is no rebuilding year. They don’t put rebuilding teams in the top 5 preseason like they will put Georgia. I think somebody needs a tissue.
By TDone
January 5, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this
What do Southern Cal, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame all have in common?
Besides being premier college football teams outside of the southeast, Muttland has not played one of these teams in the regular season or a bowl game in this century. Why?
You see what Muttland has done is concentrate on winning games played only in the southeastern part of country, against SEC, ACC, and mid-major teams which come to Athens to play. It even has played all of its bowl games in the southeat.
Oh it did play a terrible Colorado team last year, but it was in Athens and Colorado should have won the game.
I am waiting to see what happens when Muttland goes out the Arizona State to play this year. You do know that Arizona is west of Texas, don’t you?
Tennessee has gone out west, as well as Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama. Even Tech has gone out west to play. Tech has even gone up north to play. WHY CAN’T MUTTLAND?
Muttland is a facade. If one peels back the onion, it is readily apparent Muttland has made its reputation using a designed formula. It’s worked. Congratulations. But I am not impressed. But it can’t last forever.
Would love for someone to disprove my theory with facts. And please don’t tell me how tough the SEC is.
Bottom Line: If Muttland is truly one of the elite, why is is scared to schedule the elite?
By the way, the Sugar Bowl was more indicate of how pathetic Hawaii was, than how great Muttland is.
I was not impressed, at all.
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
EYtS, ESPN that’s where I go to get straight talk and info. Just like ol’ Herbie on the Les Miles thing or another of Jeremy ‘Nepotism’Schapps (sp?) hack jobs or “I can’t be unbiased” Mark May,you get the drift. Anybody that would employee Lou Holtz after all the programs he left in NCAA hotwater is in my book a bunch of hypocrites. I would suspect that said Jocksniffing Radio wannabe has never met Richt. Probably related to Terrence Moore as well.
By every year the same
January 5, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
glad to hear that, dog. Hope you still remember when you guys actually do not get a close call and lose (loose if you are a dog grad)or your fat boy or Mo decides to turn pro sooner than later.
Some mention above about the ACC vs sec this year. the sec did “leave no doubt”. Congrats.(wiping my tears away!LOL)
By Bob
January 5, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this
TDone, Frankly, I doubt if many people here give a damn whether or not you are impressed.
But while we are at it, lets discuss your teams this century. USC, Ohio State, Texas and OU have been plenty good. But for the most part THIS CENTURY Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan and Notre Dame have sucked. In fact UGA has been in the Top Ten THIS CENTURY 5 times (counting this year) and Nebraska, ND, Penn State and Michigan COMBINED, 7 times (counting this year).
BTW, I haven’t noticed any of those teams coming to Athens either…it is a two way street you know. One of your powers, Michigan turned Damon Evans down year before last because they wanted 2 for 1. Oregon State was supposed to be the opening game this year, but they backed out and we were able to schedule Oklahoma State instead. We have Oregon, ASU, Clemson, Louisville and Oklahoma State on the road in the future. You mention the Colorado game…yeah it was in Athens. But it is also part of a home and home series check things out before opening mouth and inserting foot. When Colorado was originally scheduled they were the DEFENDING Big XII Champs having whipped Texas in the Conference Championship game.
Yes, we know that Tech has gone out West. In fact they were out west last weekend for the umpteenth time enjoying Boise.
Next year’s road schedule is S.Carolina, Arizona State, LSU, Kentucky, Auburn and Florida in Jax. Don’t think anyone has to defend that type of a road schedule to you or anyone else.
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this
TDone, You act as if you are an “educated” UT fan when you don’t even understand the basic function for UT playing the type games you listed. It’s called recruiting and your recruiting base. If UT relied only on TN and regional areas for their recruits then they would be ahhhh…VANDY!!! UT must go far and wide to bring in their talent in order to compete. It is no coincidence that UT’s fortunes have turned sour since CMR arrived at UGA and has basically shut UT (save for legacies like Berry) out in GA when it comes to head to head for elite recruits.
By every year the same
January 5, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this
quail, point is, outside Clark county, your coach is not considered Rev rike and other parts of the nation are booing you guys for your less than classy acts this year including making that ESPN darling Havii look so pitiful by keeping on piling on. Do anything to make sure you are ranked high at the start. Everyone already knows you are good.
By Bob
January 5, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
Every year the same,
Fact is that not everyone in other parts of the nation are NOT booing Richt or UGA for the Hawaii game. Thom Brenneman and Charles Davis were and to be honest the ESPN guys laughed at them. Herbstreit blasted the FOX announcers for being clueless about so called running up the score and challenging the call that was overturned. Had Richt not been merciful 60 points were almost a certainty. Even Jim Donnan, who has no reason to love UGA ripped the pathetic FOX announcers about their comments. Go to any of the major network web sites and you will find nary a criticism of UGA…but instead of the BCS system that put UGA and USC in separate BCS games.
By every year the same
January 5, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
that radio guy was talking today and he was antirike.
gotto go hear the new pres debate. dogs won the fancy game based on the Athens JC paper…wow.
By War Eagle
January 5, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this
FLADAWG, I am little confused about this CWM movement. This is second time Texas has come in and got our DC last three years(Chitiz,HC at Iowa State now) and its upsets me to see this happen. He was making $325,000 at Auburn, supposely $500,000 at Texas. Personally, I think he wants to be a HC soon and with a resume including employment with Saban, Tuberville and Brown will make his case more appealing. I hope we can get Coach Tuneta former Tech DC.My mood is not good tonight..
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
eyts Yeah the same yahoos that were predicting HowAreU was going to put up big numbers on the Dawgs. When the game went into the crapper for Fox because their media darling stepped on the field with a REAL Fball team and got their hat handed to them they had to flame somewhere. Davis was a UT grad and the pbp guy, first time I’ve ever heard of him. Fox should send more time doing a real introspection regarding this less than second rate coverage of all the BCS games. I’ve seen better coverage on GPBTV for the GHSA football games than this Mickey Mouse group. Funny how i haven’t seen Ed Cunningham from ESPN since prior to KO of the UGA-HI game as he was another who was talking smack about when HowRU blows out UGA will the pollsters do the right thing and vote HowRU #1!!! BwaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I guess he and Mark May will be dining on Crow this week. RE: So called ESPN Radio geek see above.
By quaildawg
January 5, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
War Eagle, No disrespect but be careful what you wish for. His D’s are all or nothing. For all the hype on his blitzing schemes Dawgs have done a pretty good job moving the ball when needed and checking into plays that countered the pressure. Last year Tech fielded a better team than Dawgs but could not get a stop when the game was on the line (and UGA with a Frosh QB).
By Mr. Obvious
January 5, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this
Texas is a much better job than Auburn.
By Mr. Obvious II
January 5, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Texas is also a much better job than Georgia.
By Bob
January 5, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
Mr Obvious I and II, maybe a Georgia Grad and Auburn Assistant can figure out a way for the Steers to somehow beat OU and A&M. Obviously the guys there now haven’t a clue.
By War Eagle
January 5, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Mr Obvious,would you say USC, winning several NC last several years is a better job than UGA? How do you determine who is better? Auburn W-L record is better or near the same as Texas last four years. They never had a 13-0 season under Mack Brown, Auburn graduates 59%, Texas 45%, Auburn has more NFL players, Texas has horns, Auburn has wings…..I am not being sarcastic, just your opinion how you determine Texas is a better job than Aubur. You should understand if I post”Florida ia a better job than UGA”?
By hw
January 5, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
Richt is a smug and smirky prick!! Thuga is hated in the southeast and un-known outside cause they are afraid to play anyone of stature and have designed it accordingly by vince dooley(also a complete punk)
By za
January 5, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
ACC 4-2 versus sec 2007!!!!
By Bob
January 5, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this
za or lo or whatever your name this minute is. Actually it was SEC 6-3, but continue to live in a fantasy world child.
By Dorsey Hill
January 5, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
hc,
sounds like someone’s been gettin’ beaten a little more than they would like. you can call others names, but you are the one who has to look in the mirror and see a ‘loser.’
By Southside Drug Rep
January 6, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this
Come on people. Auburn vs Austin? No contest. 6th Street Rocks. Why would anyone GO to Auburn to live and work?
By Southside Drug Rep
January 6, 2008 12:35 AM | Link to this
TDone is correct. Our schedule is amazingly lackluster. The last game we played out of the south (in the regular season) was at the Big House (UGA 14- Michigan 7). I’m going to Tempe! And just to let you AU people know I am fair… How did tOSU get into the National Championship Game after playing an out of conference schedule of Akron/Kent State/Youngstown State? Auburn was undefeated and they pointed to your schedule. Then again, I expect UGA to be ranked 6 as more teams jump over us as we only beat Hawaii by 31.
By KB
January 6, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this
I know UGA Football Fans must be excited because they won another National Championship!! I think that was their 3 in a row right? Oh, that right haven’t won one since 1980 and King Hershel was there and had dark hair. They must be excited about winnning another SEC Championship. Oh that’s right that was LSU. I forgot about them not being able to score a T.D. against Steve and his 6-6 USC Team(not the real one, the other one South Carolina) and losing to good ole Tenn! Can we hear Rocky Top one more time!!!! But I have this one right, they did break the draught, and BEAT Florida! I think they are 3-15 over the last 18 years against the boys from Gainesville. Go ahead and bark and tell us how great you are!!!!!
By bottomofthemap
January 6, 2008 2:31 AM | Link to this
there is no way in the world you can compare auburn to texas there is to much history at texas and texas have had a 13-0 season with mack brown when we won the 2005 national championship texas have had a 10 when season for the last 7 years and have the second richest football program in the country with better faculties then most schools and some nfl teams and recruits better then auburn there are elite schools and there are great school texas,oklahoma,Notre Dame,USC,Alabama,Ohio State,Miami,Nebraska,Tennessee,Michigan are elite and auburn is just great but not elite so that is why Muschamp is headed to Texas
By OoltewahDawg
January 6, 2008 3:05 AM | Link to this
Fellow Dawgs, after KB’s, DWL’s, ETTS’s berating of a very good program, it is best just to keep our mouths shut and let the team speak for itself next season. If the guys manage to go undefeated through that schedule, these idiots will shut up and leave, exept maybe for the Techies who have to live their dreams of glory through UGA!
By texasmade
January 6, 2008 3:07 AM | Link to this
TO: War Eagle texas have had more player drafted in the nfl then auburn and texas is one of only three teams with more then 800 wins and texas have won more games over the last 4 year then auburn
By techster
January 6, 2008 5:34 AM | Link to this
Mark Richt is a class coach, and has developed a top notch program. Why dont these folks blogging quit obsessing about football wins and losses and be happy for the coaches and the players. Anyone who has played football for the lesser programs work as hard and sweat as much as the so called champions. The blogs reveal some of the most hateful and vitriolic statements about anyone who doesnt worship at the feet of being the dominant football program. I can remember when Oklahoma won about forty plus straight games and now they can even have a winning season. Fan is short for fanatics, And they are fickle. they will villify their defensive coordinator in one article, and praise him in another. I have a feeling most of the bloggers probably never played football.
By bamadon
January 6, 2008 6:40 AM | Link to this
Hey War Eagle, Texas has won more NC titles and more games than your beloved tigers. Would you like to live in Austin or Auburn. I will take Austin,TX over Auburn hands down!! Texas is a better football program than Auburn and BAMA at this time!!
By falcon
January 6, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
Coach Muschamp did not want to play another year facing an SEC schedule. He wants a head coaching job and needed a little softer schedule to complete his resume. Good career move IMO. As Texas’ DC, he will have a substantial HC job offer within 2 years.
By shane #1
January 6, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
techster,i think you are right about some that post on these blogs,no,i know you are right!however,even people that have never played should have been taught sportsmanship and manners.i learned both at home from my parents,but sometimes forgot them on the field.fortunately i had a high school coach that had a good way to remind me,it was known as running extra laps after practice.a personal foul,or an unsportsmanlike penality got you a seat on the bench and extra laps,and he did not care how good you thought you were.the same rule applied to star backs as well as the”animals”,as he called us,on the line.
By Eric1
January 6, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Hey bamadum, Miss St, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, La Tech, Vandy, Syracuse, etc, etc, etc are all better programs than the Univ of Tuscaloozer! Thats an obvious fact. Texas being a better program than Auburn is nothing more than someone’s emotional opinion. I happen to think Auburn is equal to or better than Texas.
By you are crazy
January 6, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
hey Eric1 auburn will never be better then texas
By War Eagle
January 6, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Texas did go 13-0 in 2005, my error…falcon, your post is probably reason CWM left Auburn.
By hdh
January 6, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Tenuta is one of the MOST overated coaches in the country.
By Shane
January 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Texas is a way better progam than Auburn. How Mational Titles does Auburn have? Texas has four. How many NFL players has Auburn produced? Auburn could not beat OU.
By Texas Dawg
January 9, 2008 1:28 AM | Link to this
Bird, I couldn’t agree with you more concerning that stupid and boring “tradition” of dumping Gatorade (or some other liquid) on the winning coach in big games. Granted, it was pretty cool and cute THE FIRST time it was done (by the NY Giants, I believe). But it has far outlived its relevance and I beg football players to come up with a new way to celebrate the accomplishments of their teams and coaches. Certainly college-educated men ought to be able to do that much.