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DEL.ICIO.USStill waiting for a good BCS game
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
New Orleans— Well, we’ve had three BCS games and three blowouts. The only thing compelling thus far was the way that West Virginia just destroyed (48-28) Oklahoma when nobody gave the Mountaineers a shot.
If we have another lopsided game tonight in the Orange Bowl (Virginia Tech vs. Kansas), the conference commissioners who run the BCS are going to catch some heat. And they probably should.
Here’s the honest truth that nobody on TV, and certainly nobody with a financial interest in these bowls, will tell you. The commissioners had it within their power to make better match-ups in the BCS bowls but that requires everybody involved to say “yes.” And trust me when I tell you that this group of people cannot agree on whether or not the sky is blue.
Consensus on anything is hard to come by in the bowl business because each conference has its own agenda and wants to protect its interests and its relationships.
There was no way the Big Ten, for example, was going to agree to let Georgia play in the Rose Bowl instead of Illinois. If I’m Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, it’s my job to use all of the political power I have to protect my conference.
And if I’m SEC commissioner Mike Slive, I’m not going to let the Rose take Georgia away from my bowl partner, the Sugar. The Sugar has already lost LSU to the BCS championship game and needs Georgia to protect its game. It is Slive’s job to protect the long-term interests of the SEC and not sacrifice them for one game in one year. That is what the SEC presidents pay him to do.
And quite frankly, if I’m the other BCS commissioners, why would I want to just give the Rose Bowl the best game (Southern Cal-Georgia) of the season? The Rose Bowl, along with the Big Ten and Pac-10, basically hold the rest of the BCS hostage to any kind of meaningful change. They have their own TV deal with ABC. They operate in their own universe.
Why in the word would the other commissioners want to help those guys?
And if you said “for the good of the fans,” you obviously don’t know about the bowl bidness.
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By dawgingatorville
January 3, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
This is why I refused to even watch the Rose Bowl parade much less the Rose bowl. But the team that got the shaft the most was UM. They got stuck in the Cotton bowl with a very undermatched and unmotivated AK. UM should have been in the Sugar against UGA. That woulf have been a great game. Not sure UGA would have won but it would have been a great game.
By Steve
January 3, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Well said, Tony.
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Upon the next renewal of BcS contracts the Rose should be cut out. We are obviously never getting a playoff because of these greedy b******* or are they to lazy to figure out how to incorporate the bowls into a playoff?
By The True Dawg
January 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
This is so True, everyone has their own agenda..That means it time to change this BCS system. we need to start now to campaign for the change not a game or two before these whole mess starts to happen. Coaches, Media, and even players need to start campaigning for a change. It dosen’t matter anyways cause the Dawgs are going to the National Championship Game next year.. Be it playoff or Not!!!..Holla
By Thomas
January 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
It’s looks like the only thing they can do to salvage this mess is go back to the old traditional bowl systems before the BCS changes were made, then go with the plus 1 formula after the bowls. The Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl,and Orange Bowl were always great bowls I looked forward to watching before they made the changes.
By allenlaw
January 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Under the old, pre-BCS system, I think the four major bowls would have looked like this: Rose Bowl – USC v. Ohio State (Pac-10 Champ v. Big Ten Champ); Sugar Bowl – LSU v. Missouri (SEC Champ v. at-large); Orange Bowl – Virginia Tech v. West Virginia ACC Champ v. Big East); Fiesta Bowl – Oklahoma v. Georgia (Big-12 Champ v. at-large)
I have to think those would have been much better games.
By TN Dawg Fan
January 3, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Guys it looks like the only way to play for the title is to have a perfect undefeated season. Let’s do just that in 2008. Go Dawgs!
By Steeledawg
January 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
On top of all the bad match-ups in the BCS bowls over the last few years, the problem I have is that Fox is covering the games. You watch ESPN/ABC or CBS all year, and then for what are supposed to be the biggest games of the year you have to switch to a style and presentation that is unfamiliar. It is very obvious to me that all of the top tier “talent” is already being employed by other outlets, so we are stuck with less than the best.
I get the feeling that Fox looks at CF fans as the little brother of the NFL, and therefore CF fans do not deserve the same production level as they provide to NFL fans.
Hopefully, with all the blowouts (I am expecting another one tonight), and dreadful play by play/analysis, ratings will suffer. Maybe then Fox will put pressure on the Bowls to create more compelling matchups.
By azcat225
January 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
allenlaw: The only change I think would be needed to your pre-BCS lineup is that OK would have been in the Orange Bowl. Memory is that the Big 8/Big 12 had their tie-in to the Orange. But I absolutely agree that the matchups would have been more compelling and far more competitive. Missouri got screwed royally and Illinois had no business being in the Rose Bowl.
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
I’m still waiting on that pu$$y Dawgswilllose to make an appearance.
By azcat225
January 3, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Steeledawg, I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed the poor quality of the Fox coverage. They’re so busy trying to give us background info and human interest snippets that they forget to cover the game. Missed referee calls, coming back to live coverage in the middle of a play, the announcers talking about something unrelated to the play happening on the screen—-all of that adds up to a frustrating viewing experience.
By BCS Update
January 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Missouri made their statement on New Years Day! They should have been in a BCS bowl. Kansas will make their statement tonight. Their wins over creampuffs didn’t warrant a BCS bowl.
By Hoopie1
January 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
I timed some commercial breaks last night during the Fiesta Bowl. During one 15 min. span in the second half there were 4 ea., 2.5 min. commercial breaks. That’s 5 min. of Football viewing time, only 2 min. off the clock, and 10 min. of commercials. I won’t be fooled into watching the game live tonight(TIVO).
By Hoopie1
January 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
I timed some commercial breaks last night during the Fiesta Bowl. During one 15 min. span in the second half there were 4 ea., 2.5 min. commercial breaks. That’s 5 min. of Football viewing time, only 2 min. off the clock, and 10 min. of commercials. I won’t be fooled into watching the game live tonight(TIVO).
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
Missouri certainly got screwed.
By OKFAN
January 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Why in the world don’t we all boycott the whole BCS bowl scheme presently in place and demand a national title game based upon a playoff bracket like they do in Basketball and Baseball? I realize we’d be playing for the title in April or May by the time we got to the championship, but we’d know who ought to be there based upon performance rather than statistical averages determined by the BCS.
By OKFAN
January 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Why in the world don’t we all boycott the whole BCS bowl scheme presently in place and demand a national title game based upon a playoff bracket like they do in Basketball and Baseball? I realize we’d be playing for the title in April or May by the time we got to the championship, but we’d know who ought to be there based upon performance rather than statistical averages determined by the BCS.
By J-Mo
January 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I actually took a 1 hour phone call during the Georgia game, and was able to “catch-up” on my DVR before the game ended, and I still watched quite a bit of the half-time show. LOL!!
By Pewtus Gortsler 65
January 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Steam arose from the balgum and folks could smell it. I drank dark liquor for awhile and felt a warm sensation run down my leg. I’ll see ya tomorrow!
By FLA DAWG
January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Unless there is an obvious matchup with no legitimate arguments from other college teams this will happen virtually every year.
Why should Auburn not be in the recordbooks!? Those guys had the best team in college football, won the SEC and were not even allowed to play for the National Championship!
I don’t believe the Dawgs should be National Champs this year - BUT - there is a complete lack of objectivity and balance in the current system which can ONLY be solved by instituting a PLAYOFF SYSTEM.
Under the current BCS System you get to play if your record is good, have enough pull with influential people or are buddies with commissioners - oh, and let’s not forget the money!
By DunwoodyDawg
January 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
The commercial breaks absolutely sucked the starch out of the crowd in the Super Dome. This was my first time to the Super Dome, and I have to say that stadium is a dump.
If Fox is going to cover the BCS, then they should take college football seriously, and start covering regular season games as well. Oh, by the way, hire some announcers that actually know what they’re talking about.
By Mike T.
January 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
I’m still waiting on that pu$$y Dawgswilllose
Maybe he’s gone to football school cause he sure don’t know anything about it.
Can you believe not only did he think Hawaii was gonna win but blow Georgia out.
By Dog the Gator Hunter
January 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
If the BCS and the Rose Bowl cared about the fans, they would ban Brent Musberger from future broadcasts. Listening to him drone on was so painful, I turned the sound down to watch the Rose Bowl. First, there is the overanalysis of every play. Then, there’s the coach infatuation: “Coach Zook runs the option, and Coach Carroll stops him on the 35 after a three yard game. Coach Carroll puts eight men in the box on third and two, Coach Zook will line up in an I… blah blah blah.”
He Brent, we know who the friggin’ coaches are already, OK? We don’t need to hear their names 50 times a broadcast. The teams were USC and Illinois, not the Mighty Carrolls vs. the Fighting Zooks.
By DunwoodyDawg
January 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Mike,
You can wait till he)) freezes over, but dawgswilllose will not show for his crow sandwich.
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
That dude is an idiot.
By Corndawg
January 3, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Outback Bowl this year = Great game.
Citrus Bowl this year = Great game.
Peach Bowl this year = Great game.
Gator Bowl = Good game.
The big bowls are getting what they deserve = bad matchups.
By Had a great time
January 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
DunwoodyDawg Have to agree about the commercials. They resulted in a lot of “dead air” time at the Dome. I do disagree on the facility. It’s obvious they put tons of money and work into it after Katrina. For what it is (30+ years old), it was really first-rate. I also liked the fact that the concessions were plentiful resulting in short lines (are you listening ATL sports venues?). What was really amazing was getting out of the Dome parking lot was so easy that we stayed until 0:00 and were back in our hotel room in Kenner (15 miles away) in about 25 minutes.
All in all, my first Sugar Bowl in 24 seasons (I missed ‘02) was awesome. BTW, I think I saw Dawgswilllose trying to fix his pickup on I-85 near Auburn.
By Hoopie1
January 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
OKFAN, start a “boycott the BCS” web page and post it on blogs all through the year and see what kind of response you get. Ask that folks “sign up” to agree to only watch a BCS game if their school is playing and not to watch any others. If a groundswell starts, then the money starts to listen.
By Not the Super Dome Announcer
January 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
And what about that announcer in the Dome! He must be heard to be believed. Can you imagine being a lifelong Saints fan and dealing with years of terrible football AND him?
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
That dude is an idiot.
By Jumbo
January 3, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
I’m a LSU fan & I would love to have a playoff system. But I’m afraid it will never happen because of the old geezers in Pasadena.
By jfergNCdawg
January 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
I noticed and commented on how TERRIBLE the Fox production was for the Sugar Bowl. They would switch the the ref 1/2 way through his call of the foul…they’d switch to the live play just as they snapped the ball so you couldn’t see the set. I hated it. I agree that ESPN/ABC is much better…then again they do this 3 days a week through the College Football season along with having Gameday…now if we can just get Kirk and the gang on board with UGA! In my opinion, the only way to do that is to prove we belong…and we only do that with a Nat’l Champ season. All the other big teams get more respect because they’ve DONE IT. Georgia hasn’t won a Nat’l Champ since I was out of diapers!!! Respect is spelled N-a-t-i-o-n-a-l C-h-a-m-p-s 2008.
Go Dawgs…please let me be a part of a National Championship Team!!
By Mikey
January 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
jfergNCdawg , it will be hard to get the ESPN guys on board, especially Mark May( the UGA hater ). I laughed my a$$ off when he picked Hawaii. He will go to all lengths to disrespect us. Last laugh is on him.
By Mike T.
January 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
TERRIBLE the Fox production was for the Sugar Bowl. They would switch the the ref 1/2 way through his call of the foul…they’d switch to the live play just as they snapped the ball so you couldn’t see the set. I hated it.
They need football basics 101 like dawgswilllose.
By boots
January 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Tony, as depressing as it is, you are right. It is all driven by power and money. Big surprise, huh? But still, these games sucked and it really did not do much for the good of college football, even from a money standpoint. If I am an advertiser, I would not pay as much for Georgia v. Hawaii as I would have for Georgia v. Missouri or whoever.
Here are a couple of other thoughts on the bowls:
By scooter11
January 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
When Fox went to commercials right after each kickoff (after having been in commercial for 3 minutes after the score), I knew it was an NFL network screwing around with the college game. I actually like Charles Davis, but I’m used to his personality and humor on the Golf Channel (had no clue he was a former UT defensive back until the other night). Thought he was an affirmative action move by the GC.
By Casey
January 3, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Steeledawg, you make a great point. These Fox commentators are horrible. They dang sure don’t have the same pizazz as Musberger, Nessler, Lundquist, Blackledge, Gottfried, or Franklin. No emotions what so ever into their commentary. They sit back and rag on every team that wins, claiming they are beating up on the small guy and just being bullies. No one wants to hear that crap. Fox has done a poor job of covering these games. The Rose Bowl game wasn’t eventful at all but Musberger and Herbstreit made it interesting even though USC was up 30 points by just their knowledge and emotion towards the sport. All around bad year for the BCS and it’s coverage.
By reservoirDAWG
January 3, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
The people in charge of scheduling should have switched the slots for the Rose and the Sugar. The Sugar would have started ar 3:30 central and the Rose 5:30 pacific.
By Dan
January 3, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
There is also a provision that states if a bowl loses the #1 team to the BCS title game it can’t chose a team from the same conference as the #2 team unless the conference afiliated with the #2 team’s conference consents.
In other words, The Rose would have had to get permission from the Sugar to invite Georgia and there is no way the Sugar would have consented to that. The Bowl games themselves are just as responsible as the commissioners for continuously turning their backs on the fans.
By lamar
January 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Everyone wants a playoff but want do anthing about it!! The only way for fans to get it is TO STOP GOING TO THE GAMES TILL ONE IS IN PLACE! The problem with people is they want do this! If everyone quit going, you would see them put a playoff in place so fast it would not be funny!! DO( A STRIKE FOR 1-2 GAMES & YOU WILL GET THEIR ATTENTION!! GO DAWGS!
By Big Al
January 3, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Bottom Line: The Rose Bowl exists for one reason. The promotion of USC is the main concern of the Grandaddy Of All Bowls. Look at the past history of the Rose Bowl. USC is in it most of the time and most of the time the opponent is inferior. That is the way the west coast wants it and unless enough pressure is applied, it will remain the same. UGA should have played out there this year and LSU should have played out there last year. Funny how SEC teams get ruled out by the Rose Bowl Committee.
I refused to watch it this year and have no respect for the Rose Bowl or the Rose Bowl Committee.
By zedlu
January 3, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
whatever happened to mike gottfried? I used to enjoy him on espn saturday night games and ”talkin football ” on sunday night. War Eagles had better be ready when you venture into Morgantown next year!
By JB
January 3, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Amen!
The sad truth!
AND, BUFFOONERY!!!
Playoffs, please.
HBTD!!!
By Mash
January 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Tony, Stewart Mandel at Sports Illustrated reported last week that the Big 12 tried to work it so Oklahoma would go to the Orange to play a more compelling game against Virginia Tech. Mike Slive confirmed this. But (Mandel) largely alluded that the SEC and Big 10 “blocked” it from happening to preserve the validity of the national champs..ie, they weren’t going to let any of the top contenders (USC, UGA, or Oklahoma) play anyone remotely good so that team couldn’t undermine the legitimacy of the eventual two-loss (or one-loss and one decent win) BCS Champions.
Which is a shame.
It’s a very sound and logical argument to say that better matchups would be better for everybody. For instance the Georgia-Hawaii game had a 7.9 rating. Whereas a USC-Georgia game would certainly have garnered three to four times the interest and viewers -that’s somewhere in the 25 - 30 range. That’s huge. Simple equation:
More viewers = More Ad $ = More $$ in each conferences pocket.
I know my two year-old can grasp this concept, I’m not sure why a bunch of old white guys can’t.
Incidentally, there was much more national interest in a USC-Georgia match-up than the so-called BCS Championship with LSU and Ohio State. There’s a week before the game, and all anyone cares about and talks about are next year’s pre-season rankings…that doesn’t say much for the national championship game.
By Pewtus Gortsler 65
January 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
I juumped on the the breakfast table this morning and popped mud in my girl friends cornflakes.The aroma of BCS she replied!
By reality check
January 3, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Your colleague Terence Moore doesn’t agree with you Tony. He says the BCS is great and it is all the fault of whiney Georgia fans
By KR
January 3, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
A few random thoughts:
The Peach, er, Chick-Fil-A Bowl game was a good one to watch. I just wish Auburn would learn to get the job done in 4 quarters.
TN Dawg Fan posts: Guys it looks like the only way to play for the title is to have a perfect undefeated season.
Nope. Just ask Hawaii this year or Auburn from 2004.
Everyone talks about why UGA didn’t or couldn’t go to Pasadena. Why didn’t the Sugar Bowl invite USC to come to New Orleans? That would have been a good game to watch. Of course, it would have meant an away game for USC…
Mizzou did a good job of showing that they belonged in a BCS bowl game. I suspect that Kansas will do an equally good job of showing that Mizzou belonged in a BCS bowl game.
I was astounded by the amount of trash talking in the Michigan – Florida game; particularly on the part of Michigan players.
I watched the UGA game right up to the point where the fans started chanting “OVER-RATED.” Then, I was disgusted and changed the channel. Can’t blame it on Richt or the team; maybe the blame lies with free-flowing alcohol.
In a championship game with 2 teams I dislike, I guess I’ll have to go with LSU. Man it hurts to say that!
WAR EAGLE!
By Dawgs will Lose
January 3, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Visions of poulan weedeaters dancing in dawg fans brains. Rainbows be damned. Dangerfield dawgs should have scored more but nooooooooo!
By boots
January 3, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
This system won’t change anytime soon, and when it does, it won’t be much better. Is the bowl system exempt from anti-trust rules? Who says universities can’t just accept $$$ and play another game. If Atlanta offered both UGA and USC $3 million a piece to play each other, could it be stopped?
Anyway, even if the BCS continues, there are certainly some improvements they could make that would make it better. Shorten games, make starting times line up with time zones, better cities for certain key bowls and so on…
Yes, Fox sucked at the games. Really, really painful to watch and listen to, both. I think TBS could have done better.
By gomdawg
January 3, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
GEORGIA I VERY GOOD YEAR ,I LOVE MY BULLDAWGS , GET OVER IT EVERYBODY I KNOW IT WAS RIGHT BUT THIS YEARS OVER NEXT YEAR OUR TIME GET READY WE WIN OUT THEN WE WILL BE THERE.
By Foonister Phlug
January 3, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
I busted a dingy wingy in my jeans and it was sniffed by Dawg breath
By 79
January 3, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
I am a Ga Tech guy so I do not care what happens in BCS games,since we will never…ever…be in one.
By Dog gone it
January 3, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
OK, guys. Quit whining. Georgia was not the second best team in the SEC and that team got shafted into the outhouse bowl. I think the bowls should take the best available team and have the relationships between bowls and conferences severed. If the two best teams were in the SEC, then they should go to the Championship.
There is no reason the Rose Bowl should always have a Big-10 team as the Big-10 is clearly inferior to the SEC.
One final word, whoever placed Florida Atlantic, Florida Central and so on along with U Conn and Rutgers into national ranking should be scalded and served to cannibals.
There’s too many bowls, period.
By Bandwagon Fan
January 3, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
reservoirDawg sucks yellow bee eggs and Mike T eats the rest of them!
By Bandwagon Fan
January 3, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Dunwoody Dawgs eats pine beatles dung with gomdawg and had a GREAT Time!!!!
By Dogs need to change
January 3, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
I see by the whining of Auburn that they are still complaining about 2004. Georgia has the same problem as they play Mickey Mouse Schools rather than national teams. Other than bowls, How many times has Georgia scheduled Nebraska, Notre Dame, Southern Cal, Penn State, Va. Tech and so on. Never! They would rather play layup teams and then whine when they get no respect. I’m surprised they haven’t scheduled Parkview High School for next year.
The legend of Dooley still carries on. Vince would never schedule good teams. Give him Vandy and Mississippi every week and he would be happy and that’s who he would schedule. What happened to Clemson?
They played Virginia one year for home coming and got their tail whipped. Now they play East Carolina Baby Sitters’s college.
By BCS Conspirators
January 3, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
Listen here for the truth about why we didn’t get better BCS bowl games! And for the life of me I can’t understand why espn and other national sports media haven’t caught on to their little game. This is a BCS conspiracy to protect and unify a national champion. Has everyone already forgotten that 4 years ago the Associated press dropped out of the BCS and can therefore crown their own national champ! Remember folks we had a split national champion in 2003 amid controversy over who should play for the title. Most of the associated press writers wanted a USC and LSU matchup and when that didn’t happen they dropped out of the BCS, then crowned USC champion for an impressive win over michigan in the rose bowl. Fortunately, for the BCS sake the AP has agreed with the BCS title game matchup the last three years. But this season is one of the most controversial ever and had the BCS conspirators up in arms. WHY? They were afraid to match up UGA and USC because there was already plenty of buzz about those two teams being the best at seasons end. What if they had played and the game turned into an epic battle and AP writers felt compelled to crown the winner of that game champion? It could have very well happened, especially if LSU defeated one loss ohio state in lackluster fashion. AP voters might have said the two best teams played for the national championship but it wasn’t in the BCS title game!
By Cheap Play Calling by Georgia
January 3, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
I use to pull for all Georgia schools and the SEC but after watching UGA throw three straight times from inside the Hawaii 10 yard-line while ahead by 31 points made me sick to my stomach. How cheap can you get? Richt that was low-class and put you in the same class with Fulmer. Take your team with the non-Georgia playmakers and stick the entire team where the sun doesn’t shine. Never again will I pull for the cheap UGA.
By Playoffs Needed
January 3, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
The bowl games have blocked the NCAA from ever allowing a playoff. Every level of football competition has a playoff with the exception of the ‘NCAA big-boys’. What makes them so special???? MONEY and GREED. Also a team (i.e. USC) should not be allowed to play a bowl game on their home field (unless they play the University of Texas). Home field bowl game is as stupid as Georgia high school playoffs playing on a team’s home field….but there again is the MONEY and GREED angle.
By Pewtus Gortsler 65
January 3, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Bring HOPE! Give every American a Billon Dollars. Give all colleges a football National Champioship! Handouts for everyone Vote OBAMA!!!
By Rod
January 3, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
AP Voters out ther listen up!! You the AP voters, that includes you Tony Barnhart should vote a different National Champion that is not in the BCS game and do it every year until ABC, the Rose Bowl, the Big Ten, and the Pac Ten change their ways. Almost every year the AP could decide a differnt NC and it would be just as legit as the BCS Champ.
By davisadams
January 3, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
The production “value” of the FOX Sugar Bowl broadcast was a travesty. Steeldawg I saw your comments first so I give you credit for making me take the time to comment…1) a “b”-list announcing pair…really weak and unknown by college football fans. 2) the production truck and the director of that crew should be reassigned to cover Putt-Putt or something similar…how can you continually cut into refs 1/2 way through the call…not show replays of the recovered fumble for a TD by GA until after a commercial…you couldnt even tell if GA really recovered after the Hawaii player ran out of the pile with the ball…after Hawaii finally scores a TD GA returns the kickoff 90 yards to the 6 yard line and of course -0- replay…they were so focused on beating the remaining viewing audience over the head with their )&$%#&*& promos for upcoming games they never considered people watching 3-4.5 hrs into the bloody game actually cared to watch the few good plays more than once. This was a BCS game?…production-wise it was like some after thought of a bowl game.
By Jim
January 3, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
To Cheap play calling by Georgia.
If it made you sick for Georgia to have their backup QB throw three times I guess you would have died if he had just handed the ball to Moreno one time. Anyway Cox could complete those passes with his eyes closed if we needed to score.
By Marc T
January 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
Here is how to fix it but it is not going to happen. Have 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4 and so on. NO AUTOMATIC BIDS. If the SEC gets 4 teams in or none only the top ten get in. No conference is going to agree because of money. We should tell the Rose and the Big 10 and Pac 10 to stick it. Take the other 3 Bowls and have the top 4 schools out from the rest of the nation play 2 games for the National Championship. It would work perfect with 3 bowls, 2 for the playoff and the other gets the NC game. It is just about money and thats ashame.
By Ratso Rizzo
January 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Fox did a bad job. CSS would be ashamed to have the kind of production value Fox is bringing to these broadcasts. Speaking of lifeless broadcasts, Fox is as painful as listening to Matt Stewart and Buck Belue.
By marvin the martian
January 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this
in a galaxy far far away black student-athletes are not used and abused by white fans, greedy universities, and corporations they are loved and appreciated E.T. is my best friend
By ted
January 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
If the BCS bowls were all playoff games, tv ratings and the bowls would all be better served. The matchups wouldn’t matter a bit if the winner advanced.
By adawgfan
January 3, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
Maybe I just don’t understand, but if the bowls are worth so much money to the school presidents, wouldn’t they be worth more in a playoff system utilizing the current bowl system. With a little rescheduling and an earlier start rather than a later finish.
It really wouldn’t affect the BCS bowls in terms of dollars, heck those bowls are cash cows now, imagine if they were the quarter finals thru the finals of a playoff!
The bowls that would really make more money are the lower tier bowls. I mean the city of Boise certainly would have drawn a lot more fans into town to see Ariz St. vs Kansas in the first round than GT vs Fresno St.
I must be crazy… GO DAWGS!
By AArbor1
January 3, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
I am just excited to have coach Rodriguez at UM. As you pointed out Tony, he will recruit speed and force the rest of the Big 10 to recruit speed. As it is now, we can’t even beat slow plodding Ohio State. With speed, we may be able to beat an all world speed team like Florida - oh wait a minute - never mind - I forgot, we already did that.
By Wozzo the Wonder Dog
January 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
The guy throwing the ball on fourth down was Joe Cox, the backup QB who rarely gets to play. If we wanted to run up the score there are a few RB’s or FB’s who guaranteed would have scored running on that play. Hawaii’s box scores are easily available and their run and shoot was never slowed down against weaker opponents. We did down the ball on our last possession and it was nice to see Blake Barnes on the field, although I thought he should have had the chance to complete a short pass rather than just run out the clock. USC beat Illinois by 32 — why isn’t that running up the score? Coach Richt could have beat Hawaii by a lot more and he could have beaten Florida State in the Sugar Bowl a few years back by a lot more as well.
Keenan Jones. Spearing, with a helmet-to-helmet hit to boot. I suppose most everyone knows he has a little problem with slapping around his live-in girlfriend. Here’s hoping the Tebows turn the Rainbows into hoboes.
I thought that Brian Mimbs was hit in the back. The announcers on the replay said it was a proper hit but even watching the YouTube clip I thought Brian was hit in the back. I know Brian should not retaliate because of the potential for penalties but he laid that Hawaii player out with just a light push.
Coach Richt challenging the play came exactly two plays after Hawaii used its challenge. Hawaii lost its challenge and it cost the team its final time out. Coach Richt was right and it turned a 1st down for Hawaii into a first down for UGA. The same hypocrites that yelled at Coach Richt for getting a deliberate penalty for celebration at Florida are the ones yelling at him for using a proper challenge at a proper time.
By gawfdawg
January 3, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this
The fox coverage was the pits. It may have been my reception but when I switched to ESPN for highlights, the picture quality was much better. I agree that the confrences have a stranglehold on the post season. It’s all about the money. We can blog ‘til we’re blue in the face but we will never see a play-off until the networks get involved and put together a package that makes it as lucritive as the present system.
GO DAWGS NATIONAL CHAMPS 2008
By Marietta Dawg
January 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
Wozzo the Wonder Dog I totally agree! To add my two cents, I think that Richt is finally realizing that poll voters look at boxscores when they decide their votes. I’m not saying that he was running up the score, but what else were they gonna do…take a knee and give the ball back to Hawaii?? Unfortunately, the current system sucks, but we have to deal with it. Go Dawgs!
By Seve
January 3, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
To cheap play calling by Georgia.
Let the backup players have their day. They put in the sweat during the year. If MR would have wanted more points, he definitely could have kick the field goal., I was sitting there and thinking how coach wasn’t trying to get more points. Where were you on the couch saving your few dollars.
By marvin the martian
January 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
in a galaxy far far away black student-athletes are not used and abused by white fans, greedy universities, and corporations they are loved and appreciated E.T. is my best friend
By Mike T.
January 3, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
By Cheap Play Calling by Georgia I use to pull for all Georgia schools and the SEC but after watching UGA throw three straight times from inside the Hawaii 10 yard-line while ahead by 31 points made me sick to my stomach. How cheap can you get
Did you happen to notice it was backups in there at the time?
Remember when Spurrier run a reverse on our ten yard line back in 95 just so he could say he scored 50 points on Georgia in their own stadium? Remember Spurrier saying you can’t put in backups and tell them not to score?
By jeezopeez
January 3, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this
Cocky about beating UF? They finished 3rd in their division. They ain’t all world this year. But it is still a damn good win for a sucky team like Michigan.
By JaxDawg
January 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
Speaking of poor officiating…
Help me understand how Hawaii called time out when they did not have any left and that did not result in a penalty…at least a delay of game. The result was that Hawaii got extra time to set their defense and no penalty. Perhaps Fox decided that WAC Run and Shoot teams deserved unlimited timeouts.
By Mike T.
January 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
ACC ain’t doing to good. Kansas 17-Va Tech-0 2 quarter
By Mike T.
January 3, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Help me understand how Hawaii called time out when they did not have any left and that did not result in a penalty…at least a delay of game.
I think we had to play by some mixed in Hawaiian rules that Richt and the team was not made aware of prior to the beginning of the game.On another blog some cat was upset because a Hawaii player come running out of the end zone with the ball after a Georgia player “”recovered” the ball in same said end zone.
By disgusted
January 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
It seems like the only thing people in Georgia do is complain about how they were screwed by the BCS. If you were true fans, you would be proud of your team, it’s accomplishments, and hope for a better season next year. I am disgusted with the lack of humility and respect that the fans of UGA have shown to the players of UH, the fans of UH, and other football teams across the country. Even though Hawaii had no chance against your powerful UGA team, they played with HEART and respect. That’s more than UGA and it’s fans did.
By SEC Super Fan
January 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
Here is something simple that is not discussed about this year’s BCS Bowls(I mean crap). Hawaii and Illinois were not qualified. The BCS did not need to create an extra game. The Sugar Bowl is LSU vs Ohio St. We did not need the crap, extra BCS game. UGA vs USC would of been great for college football. If us guys ran our businesses like college football with no regard for the customer we would be broke and could not afford the huge donations we give to buy season tickets.
I loved the comment about how the BCS has ruined the Big bowl games, Rose, Sugar, Orange. Think 20 years ago, these games were always great with qualified teams.
By stephen
January 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this
Hey Tony can you confirm that Will Muschamp is the new DC at TEXAS?
By unbelievable
January 3, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
The announcer at the Sugar Bowl was clearly a reject from a wizzard of oz tryout.
By Pulaski Dog
January 3, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
disgusted! If you were in N.O., you would know that Georgia Fans were gracious and complimentary to Hawaii fans from my view. There were a few drunks as usual being themselves but overall I think Georgia fans showed respect to Hawaii fans. As to respecting the BCS debacle —come on—.
By apulshunny
January 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
I thought one of the arguments against a playoff was to avoid making the season too long. If that is true, then why is the title game being played on the 7th? That’s nearly a week after New Year’s Day (when the bowls SHOULD be done) and would fit in perfectly as a one game playoff.
I happen to have the Kansas game on now because there is not much else on, but I have seen no other bowls and do not care about them becuase this idiotic system has made them all trivial and irrelevant.
By apulshunny
January 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
I thought one of the arguments against a playoff was to avoid making the season too long. If that is true, then why is the title game being played on the 7th? That’s nearly a week after New Year’s Day (when the bowls SHOULD be done) and would fit in perfectly as a one game playoff.
I happen to have the Kansas game on now because there is not much else on, but I have seen no other bowls and do not care about them becuase this idiotic system has made them all trivial and irrelevant.
By Zeb McKluskey
January 3, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this
To any idiot who thinks that Georgia was trying to “run up the score”. DAM, DAM, DAM. How big of a pu$$y idiot are you. You momma’s boys obviously never played anything but 2005 soccer where everyone wins. I’m so sick of you f$%kin people. You have never been on a field and got leveled by someone at all. You have never gone thru 2 or 3 a days during the dam summer. You pu$$y muthers probably were the guys that got picked on. Before you little liberal pu$$y people jump on me, understand this, I’m an ex-marine, and an ex cop. Oh wait….I just gave you freaks some more ammunition to bash everyone that thinks like normal people do. Bring it on b***. Me and my boys will never get tired of it. AJC guys, please just let this post go, and I’ll never do it again. I was just responding to one of your readers and won’t do it again….for a while.
By MDDAWG
January 4, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this
As an answer to the PAC-10 and BIG 10 being held to an ABC contract, just remember that ESPN is owned by ABC and now you see why they talking heads are always pro PAC-10 and BIG 10. A few years ago ESPN had to make end of the year excuses as to why ESPN GAMEDAY was at the USC vs NEBRASKA game rather than FL vs Tenn. Even all the announcers are ex BIG 10 players to include CBS game with SEC teams..What a racket
By Hedge Head
January 4, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
DOGS NEED TO CHANGE…take a look at Georgia’s schedule in ‘08. Then, come try to bi+ch and moan again about Georgia having a “soft” schedule. Moron.
By Carlton Powell
January 4, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
To Cheap Play calling by Georgia: What the hell are you talking about?? Trying to run up the score?? Buddy, remember it is incumbent upon the defensive team to STOP the offensive team. As previously noted, we’re not playing under the Little League 10 run rule or whatever rule might apply to rec league football. This is big-time football in a BCS game. And remember, all we heard from Colt Brennan was that “no one could stop their offense.” Well, guess what?? Someone did. Don’t be such a wimp.
By terrancemooreblows
January 4, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
The media never gives Georgia any respect! I would pay high dollar to see Terrance Moore suit up and try to return a kick or punt against UGA!!!! The Fox coverage is the worst I have ever seen!
By DG
January 4, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Auburn should not have been in the NC game in 04’. Oklahoma and USC were ranked higher going into the season. All 3 teams went undefeated. How do you justify moving 17th preseason ranked Auburn ahead of the #1 and #2 went all 3 didn’t lose?
Sorry just sick of hearing Auburnites still complaining about that…..
By KR
January 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
DG how do you justify Auburn’s pre-season ranking of #17 vs USC and OU’s pre-season rankings of #1 & #2? As you pointed out, all three went undefeated in the regular season.
If Auburn had been ranked #3 in the pre-season, can you absolutely guarantee they wouldn’t have been #1 or #2 by the end of the season?
I’ll answer for you: NO, you can’t guarantee that.
And finally, what does it matter now? We only bring it up to add more examples of why the BCS is seriously flawed.
WAR EAGLE!
By DG
January 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
KR,
Yes. I can almost absolutely guarantee had Auburn started at #3 they wouldn’t have been #2 OR #1.
Hawaii went undefeated this season and the bartender where I watched the Sugar Bowl told me (before the game) he thought since they were the only team with a pristine record they should be playing in the NC game. He was singing a different tune at the half.
Much like Hawaii - Auburn played a weak schedule in 04’ which included a D-II opponent. Neither OU or USC played a division II team. Auburnites had a case only AFTER USC throttled OU and the truth is we’ll never know. Hindsight is 20/20…
By KR
January 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
DG: the question was looking for an absolute guarantee. “Almost” doesn’t cut it. Nice try though.
You are right about one thing: we’ll never know.
WAR EAGLE!
By DG
January 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Fine. You’re right - There might have been a few idiots in the media who bought into the hype and could have voted D-II team playing Auburn ahead of OU and USC who played all D-I teams. Yes it could, possibly have happened. SHOULD they have been there? That would be an absolute NO, based on schedule strength alone. What are you guys calling yourselves now anyway? Eagles? Tigers?
WAR TEAGLE?!?!