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DEL.ICIO.USThese youngsters should have won the Heisman
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
On Saturday in New York a sophomore may win the Heisman Trophy for the first time ever as Florida quarterback Tim Tebow is a co-favorite with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden, a junior. There has always been some hesitancy to give the Heisman to a freshman or sophomore, but there have been many over the years who were deserving of the award. Here are just five:
1. Herschel Walker, freshman, RB, Georgia, 1980: In his rookie year at Georgia, Herschel was the best football player I have ever seen. He ran for 1,616 yards (5.9 average) and 15 touchdowns. He was a human highlight film who led Georgia to the national championship. George Rogers of South Carolina led the nation in rushing with 1,781 yards on a pretty good team but lost the head to head match-up with Walker in Athens. Walker finished third as a freshman, second to Marcus Allen of Southern Cal as a sophomore, and won the Heisman as a junior in 1982.
2. Darren McFadden, sophomore, RB, Arkansas, 2006: He finished second last season as a sophomore and should have won it after rushing for 1,647 yards on a team that had ANOTHER 1,000-yard rusher in Felix Jones. He averaged 5.8 yards per carry. Ohio State QB Troy Smith won and had the edge because he played on the nation’s No. 1 team. The fact that McFadden was on so many of the 900-plus ballots last year may give him an edge over Tebow in this year’s voting.
3. Rex Grossman, sophomore, QB, Florida, 2001: Grossman had a monster year in what turned out to be Steve Spurrier’s last season as coach. He set a Florida single game record when he threw for 464 yards against LSU. Grossman finished second to Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch and was, at the time, only the fifth sophomore to finish in the top two for the award. Completed 259 of 395 passes (65.6 percent) for 3,896 yards and 34 touchdowns. Grossman was the Associated Press national player of the year.
4. Emmitt Smith, freshman, RB, Florida, 1987: In 1987 Smith led the SEC in rushing with 1,341 yards, which was also the Florida record for a freshman. Played sparingly in Florida’s first two games of the 1987 season and then, in his first college start, ran for 224 yards against Alabama. He went over 1,000 yards in only seven games, which was faster than Herschel Walker or Tony Dorsett. Tim Brown of Notre Dame won and Smith finished 9th. Smith went on to become the leading rusher in NFL history.
5. Marshall Faulk, sophomore, RB, San Diego State, 1992: Faulk led the nation in rushing as a freshman (1,429) and as a sophomore (1,630). He is one of only a handful of players to rush for over 3,000 yards in their first two seasons of college football. He finished second Miami quarterback Gino Torretta in the Heisman voting.
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By Doug
December 7, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
Speaking of Spurrier he wasn’t even the best qb in the SEC in 66 when he won it. Kenny Stabler, who led Alabama to an 11-0 record was. Spurrier was best known for choking against UGA in the second half and throwing 3 ints.
By baloney
December 7, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
If I am not mistaken, George Rogers had more yards and more TD’s than Herschel when Herschel was a freshman. Remember that George was a senior also. I never bought into the idea that Herschel should have won it in his freshman year based soley on the stats that George Rogers had. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
By Ol Ball Coach
December 7, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
Walker should have been chosen every year and the 2007 Dawgs should have been chosen for the BCS Title. And while were at it….let’s go ahead and choose the Dawgs as preseason #1. On the field performance be damned.
By War Eagle
December 7, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
What about Cadillac Williams? I heard he learned to spell his name, WDE!
By Big Dawg
December 7, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this
Baloney,
Stats tell only a partial story concerning a player and what he means to a team. While I remember seeing both Herschel and George play in 1980, both in person and on TV, they were great running backs but Herschel took us to a higher level than George Rogers did for South Carolina. Also Herschel played against a much tougher schedule then Rogers and didn’t actually become the starter until our second game that year. Another item of note is that when they went against each other head to head Herschel out performed Rogers and when you throw in the yardage from our Bowl game and South Carolina’s the numbers are not that much different. As for Herschel’s sophmore year he played hurt most of the year, plus Marcus Allen had a Great year rushing for over 2000 yards. You need to stop being so jealous and biased against the Dawgs and realize that these are only opinions and can not change the fact that Rogers did win the Heisman in 1980.
Go Dawgs
By pvb
December 7, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Ol Ball Coach,
What kind of on the field performance are you referring to? Sure, UGA stumbled against SC and UT. Who didn’t stumble some this year?
The fact of the matter is UGA continued to improve as the season progressed and played better down the stretch than alot of teams. They are 13 and 2 over their previous 15 games. So what’s your beef?
By DWG
December 7, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
From Heisman Pundit
“Walker’s presence turned Georgia from a mediocre program into a powerhouse. He rushed for a then-freshman record 1,616 yards, including four 200-yard games. He also scored 15 touchdowns. He was the catalyst as the Bulldogs went 12-0 and won the national title. He even went head-to-head with eventual Heisman winner Rogers and outgained him in a UGA win, 219 yards (including a brilliant 76-yard run) to 168. He gained 150 of Georgia’s 173 total yards in the Sugar Bowl win against Notre Dame, despite a separated shoulder. His exploits that season bordered on legendary—and he was just a baby! Walker would go on to win the Heisman in 1982, but there’s no doubt that his freshman season was his most amazing and dynamic.
The Heisman is supposed to go to the ‘Most Outstanding’ player in college football. Looking back at 1980, it’s not entirely clear that George Rogers was the most outstanding performer. While he certainly was a talented individual, his performance seemed to have very little impact on his team’s success. Walker was simply a physical phenom who changed college football and became a larger-than-life figure. He took a team that was 5-6 the year prior and carried them on his back to the national title, out-performing Rogers along the way. While the names of Green and Rogers have faded somewhat, Walker’s star is still shining in the college football heavens.”
Pretty much says it all.
By timmythebrave
December 7, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
vote for richt at www.coachoftheyear.com
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Most Outstanding Player, Not Most Valuable Player to his team. I think the team gives out little MVP trophies.
Congrats to Boling, Sturdivant and Moreno for All SEC Freshman team. Especially those OL’s they helped Moreno get where he is.
By baloney
December 7, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
No wonder the heisman is not nearly as meaningful as it used to be.With people like TB voting (he no longer has a vote)it has become a popularity contest. Sure you can argue that Herschel was the best,most valuable to his team, but George was on a team without the talent that Herschel had around him. Herschel did make UGA into anational power in his 3 years. You can say that Herschel outgained George 219 to 168, but if you take out a long run by Herschel (or add a 76 yard run by George) and George would have better head to head #’s.Of course people will spin it the way they want, but then again George still won it, and I think he desreved it.
By Petey
December 7, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Tony, I’m not sure I understand your argument for Herschel since you don’t really make one (other than “He was a GREAT Dawg woof woof woof!!!!)
Rogers had more yards, but Herschel beat him head to head and was on a better team?
Can I then assume that Tebow should not with the Heisman because he lost 3 out of 3 to his best competition?
Keep in mind that Rogers played a tougher schedule and Walker was not even 2nd in voting, he was a distant 3rd behind a defensive end.
By baloney
December 7, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
ESPN makes me sick with their hype of “heisman frontrunners” before the first kickoff. They pump it and get everyone pulling for one guy , then they toss someone else’s name out there late and pump the crap out of him to make it interesting. Some years they tell us “well he has had a better career”. Then the next year they tell us “it’s not a career award”.It comes down to a popularity contest.
By pr
December 7, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Walker is the best college player ever period. He could have one the heisman 3 years running.
By DWG
December 7, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
He was a distant third because he was a FRESHMAN. The fact that he even made the top three was a great accomplishment. You think the old gaurd is pretty staunch about handing out the trophy to a freshman or soph. now? It was unthinkable 27 years ago.
By PM
December 7, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
Way to go Tony, you have all the UGA idiots spinning in circles again about Herschel and those “great years” (the only years UGA was really not overrated). It’s always either that or “next season” with those guys.
By PM
December 7, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
ESPN leads the pack as far as manipulating the media marketplace. They create stories, they run with stories, they stir things up real good to keep viewers and maintain control. What happened to the good ole days when the TV, radio, and News people just covered the game on the field? TOO MUCH HYPE!, TOO MUCH INFORMATION! TOO MUCH FABRICATION!
By noyellowinthisblood
December 7, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
PM, if uga fans are all idiots why are you on this board? This board is the ajc football board. A paper that happens to be in the state of GA.
By ADAM
December 7, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
How can Terrence Moore say OSU desrevs to play in the title game? They played in the weak Big Ten? Oh, that’s right. I forgot. Sorry Terrence-OSU played that tough nonconference schedule against Kent, Youngstown State, Akron and Washington. My Bad….Idiot
By Dorsey Hill
December 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
It should also be noted that George Rogers had a crucial fumble in the 4th Q vs. UGA that cost USC a shot a winning the game. Fumbling a game away is not ‘outstanding.’
And if Paul Hornung can win it on a 2-8 Notre Dame team over Ernie Davis than the award doesn’t mean that much anyway.
It is among the most overhyped, overrated things in sports. If you took a poll of who was the “Most Outstanding Player of 1980” today the result would be nearly unanimous: Herschel.
I hope Tebow wins three Heismans and we beat his azz 3 times just like we did Emmitt Smith. Emmitt may be the career leader in yards in the NFL but he never got 100 vs. UGA.
By GayGreyGeek
December 7, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Adam, TM’s blog is ———-> that way
By Mizzou4u
December 7, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Nice SEC bias - couldn’t come up with more than one underclassman that should have had a better shot at the Heisman? I got two words for you: Rick Mirer.
By Pago Pago
December 7, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Heck, Tebow could win it for the next three years….
By stats
December 7, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Gee, a guy who writes for the AJC has a column listing underclassmen who “should’ve” won the Heisman…and 4 out of 5 were from the SEC…what a shock!! Mcfadden over Troy Smith?? Pull your head out of your you now where, Barnhardt.
By stats
December 7, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Gee, a guy who writes for the AJC has a column listing underclassmen who “should’ve” won the Heisman…and 4 out of 5 were from the SEC…what a shock!! Mcfadden over Troy Smith?? Pull your head out of your…. Barnhardt.
By ADAM
December 7, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
I know where TM’S blog is…I wanted to make a point…Who gives a rip about the Heisman…they need to name it the Herschel Award
By Roswell Ed
December 7, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
This is like the BcS debate.
We may as well argue:
Ginger or Maryanne?
Mustard or Mayo?
Boxers or Briefs?
Dick Sargent or Dick York?
Sean Connory or Roger Moore?
Chevy or Ford?
White or dark chocolate?
Crown or Jack?
Coke or Pepsi?
Paper or Plastic?
Tastes Great or Less Filling?
Godfather I or II?
Blondes or brunettes?
Bo Duke or Luke Duke?
Farrah Fawcett or Cheryl Ladd?
Working hard, or hardly working?
What does it freaking matter?
By hunkering hank
December 7, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
How could you POSSIBLY say Marshall Faulk should have won instead of Geno? It should have been Garrison Hearst, and you know it!
By John Heisman
December 7, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
Heisman - what a joke! Anyone find it strange that only quarterbacks and running backs are the outstanding football player in America?
Even an old fa*t like me who dreamed this award up knows that without an offenseive line receivers neither position could be successful. Also, ironic that defense wins championships, but only offensive backs win Heismans.
The whole thing is nothing but a P R campaign to give sports information departments something to do and, unfortunately, ESPN something else to try to influence with their BS.
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 7, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
Roswell Ed! LMAO!
By Chuck
December 7, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
One writer suggested that if you took away Herschel’s 76-yard run or added such a run to George Rogers numbers against UGA in 1980, then Rogers would have outperformed Herschel. How stupid is such a comment. Herschel did make that TD run. I was in Sanford Stadium that day and my recollection, although it could be wrong, was that Rogers lost a fumble during a crucial drive that could have given SC a win (UGA won 13-10). Herschel was just a better player!
By mcdawg
December 7, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
i’m pulling for McFadden based on the “George Roger’s” rule
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 7, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Congrats to Tebow for the O’Brien and Maxwell awards! And what the hell, for the Heisman too! Make it the triple crown.
By baloney
December 7, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
woulda, coulda, shoulda. Herschel did make the 76 yd run, Rogers did not. Rogers did win the heisman, Herschel did not.
By baloney
December 7, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Besides Rogers outgained Herschel in yds anyway with or without the 76 yd run.
By ADAM
December 7, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
I think Colt McCoy should win the Heisman. He was underrated and held a poor Longhorn team together without Sneed
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 7, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
John Heisman, you don’t need all those other guys that you mentioned if you are “One Man Team” Tim Tebow.
By ADAM
December 7, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
Call 911 Im on fire
By UGA 78
December 7, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
I keep seeing people on these blogs describing Georgia as “consistently over-rated.”
Go back and look at UGA’s pre-season ranking for, say, ten years, and compare that to UGA’s final ranking each year. You will see that UGA is consistently under-rated.
By Vick is a looser
December 7, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
What about Mike Vick? I know he is a turd, but his Soph. season was great.
By azcat225
December 7, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Vick is a looser…what? ‘Looser’ cannon than D Hall? 75% of the posters here continue to amaze me.
Lmao, Roswell Ed. At least I can always count on you for a legitimate laugh when you’re here.
And btw—-Maryanne.
By Forrest Gump
December 7, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
I agree that Herschel was the best runner his freshman year that I have ever seen, and I saw Rogers that year and Bo Jackson later. Richt can pretend he likes Tebow, but Tebow will keep Richt’s baby-faced QB from any major recognition for the next two years, and Tebow won’t be a candidate for traffic violations or drunk driving.
By me
December 7, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Dorsey should have won the Heisman in 2001. They went undefeated and beat the Gators at UF.
By Orlando Rivera
December 7, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Actually in Vick’s first year of playing (his redshirt freshmen year) he led the nation in passing efficiency. Yeah, pretty amazing things can happen when you have a coach who wants you to throw often. He led VT to the national championship in 2000 and should’ve have won the Heisman, which would’ve been a great start into a pretty good career in the NF…..ooh never mind.
Here’s hoping Darren McFadden wins it and takes it all the way to Flowery Branch next fall.
By Ryder
December 7, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
I have to agree with azcat: Maryanne and some Jack, always bet on Jack.
The Heisman is worthless. The rationale behind the voting is pathetic, just like the BCS. College football is the only sport in which they’d rather have debates than definitive results.
By George G.
December 7, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Herschel couldn’t even hold Bo Jackson’s jock strap.
By Dave In Tampa
December 7, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
PM - Sounds like sour grapes to me. Don’t be a hater! UGA is not #5 by accident. They did what they had to do to get there. If winning over 70 games in the past 7 years is over rated then yes, they are over rated and I hope they keep it up. Oh, by the way Einstein, that would be an average of 10 wins per season.
George G. how many time did Herschel beat Auburn? How many times did Bo lose to UGA. Hint, Bo lost one more that Herschel.
By tom Poland
December 7, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
ESPN has gone from reporting the sports news to trying to create and shape it. But what can you expect from a bunch of damn Yankees.
By will
December 7, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Whenever I see anything to do with South Carolina football compared to UGA football, I laugh my a* off. USC is a second-tier football program and they always will be. And I can’t stand to watch ESPN anymore b/c of Lou Holtz, who was a joke at USC but to hear him talk, they won all kind of championships and were some great SEC power! They stunk just like they do under Spurrier. I can’t wait until September so we can start another 6 or 7 year win streak.
By js
December 7, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
Herschel smerchel.. what a washup.
By Dawgcrzy
December 7, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
If Tebow dose’nt win heisman this year,he might be the best QB never to win.Can you say Moreno or Stafford?
By Ed
December 7, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
Bo Jackson was awesome, a real legend. But Herschel couldn’t hold his jockstrap? That’s funny. I bet former Auburn defenders who played from ‘80-‘82 would beg to differ with you.
By Joshua Barlowe
December 7, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
What about Joe Hamilton?
Can we get a writer who doesn’t wear SEC panties?
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 7, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
tom Poland, I agree 100% on that one.
By Gadawg59
December 7, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Face it, much of the Heisman vote is like the polls. Voters go by what they read in the newspapers and what they see on tv. I can not see how anyone could disrespect Herschel. He still is the greatest player to ever play in the college game. He changed the way the game was played. Never before had someone of his size had that kind of speed. He was the biggest impact player the game had ever seen. The defense knew he was gettting the ball and still could not stop him. UGA won 33 out of 36 games during his career. Three SEC championships, one national championship and a top 5 rating ever year. He played hurt a lot but was a dominating force. He never lost a SEC game. He happens to be a first class indvidual as well. Revered in the business world as well. Go Dawgs.
By Obnoxious Georgia Fan
December 7, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
The Heisman is the most overrated award in all of sports. I love college football as much as anyone but could give two * who wins the Heisman. Usually its some hyped up media darling from a patsy conference that put up big numbers against swiss cheese defenses.
That said, I feel that Tebow and McFadden truly are the two best players in all of college football. Picking between them is next to impossible. I give the edge to McFadden because he is a senior. Tebow will have his chances, much like Herschel did.
Then again, if Tebow wins it we Georgia fans have the Heisman curse to look forward to for the next two years. If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a million times. Tebow can win all the awards he wants as long as we wax Florida’s a** every year.
By anotherdawg
December 7, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
I’m no Tennessee fan, except when playing LSU of course, but I will never forget the expression and disappointment on Peyton Manning and his father’s face when he didn’t get it. It, like the BCS, is political
By jeff
December 7, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
Walker was great as a frosh and should have won then but not as soph. Go back and look what Allen did that year. His statistics were unreal.
By SATXdawg
December 8, 2007 1:52 AM | Link to this
WHY TEBOW WILL NOT WIN THE HEISMAN…
Tebow has the gaudy stats and he is already unprecedented in his accomplishments as a qb in the SEC. However, he does not have a signature performance against equal or superior competition this year. He DID NOT carry his team to victory on the road in Red Stick. Auburn and Georgia made him look insignificant. Let’s not forget that Urban Meyer padded his stats by playing him late in games against vastly inferior opponents such as FAU, the Cocks, and Troy. Does anybody know who the hell Tebow’s backup is? Hell NO!!! Additionally, he has Percy Harvin, Cornelius Ingram, & Andre Caldwell to make him look better than he really is. As far as the rushing td’s, UF has no running back to speak of…so guess who gets the ball inside the 5 on a running play. Put a decent tb in the backfield with Tebow, and I guarantee you it cuts his rushing tds and rushing yards in half?!! It’s not like Tebow has ripped off incredible long runs for tds. Matthew Stafford’s 31 yd. TD run against GT actually tops any of Tebow’s td runs in terms of yardage.
Mcfadden on the other hand…
1.)Gained more yards in 2007 than Herschel did in 1982.
2.) rushed for 323 yards against SC. It’s not like Nutt played him exclusively either. Jones rushed for 196. I would consider this a stellar, signature performance.
3.) Put Arkansas on his shoulder’s and carried them to victory over LSU AT RED STICK. SOMETHING TEBOW WAS UNABLE TO DO.
MCFADDEN FOR HEISMAN.
THE SATXdawg has spoken!!!
By SATXdawg
December 8, 2007 2:18 AM | Link to this
Anyone who thinks Herschel shouldn’t have won the Heisman every year he played is a moron!!! Especially, his Freshman year. I have yet to see any running back who matched his ability to take it the distance once breaking the line of scrimmage. Herschel Walker was the first freshman in the history of college football to be named a concensus all-american. He is the only college football player to finish in the top 3 in the heisman balloting every year played. ESPN named him their college football player of the century in 2000. Ironically, George Rogers and/or Marcus Allen will not be among ESPN/ABC’s top 25 greatest college football players ever unless one or both finish in the top 2 spots. Herschel is #3. See the link below for a sample of “the goal line stalker’s” greatness. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopagevideoId=3136429&n8pe6c=2&categoryId=2564308
By ClwFlGator
December 8, 2007 5:06 AM | Link to this
SATXdawg:
Your hatred of all things orange & blue is blinding you to the facts. Stop hating on TT just because he broke Herschel’s single season rushing TD record (while playing QB no less)! You Dawgs will get your shot in the next couple of years with Knowshawn, until then stop bashing our guy ala June Jones. Your comments are so rediculous that I don’t know where to begin, but I will try.
You are right, Tebow does not have a signature performance against equal or superior competition this year, he has several. In fact, due to our young, inexperienced, and porous defense, our record would have been even worse than what it was without TT leading our offense and keeping us in some of those games.
You mention the LSU game, let’s talk about that one. We were leading then #1 LSU the whole game (in their house) until our defense gave up like 3 or 4 4th and 1s late in the game for LSU to finally take the lead from us with 1:09 left in the game. In a rebuilding year, with 75% of our team being frosh and sophomores, we weren’t even supposed to be in that game. But we were, thanks to TT leading our offense. You ask LSU fans who they would have wanted to see in Atlanta at the end of this year if they had their pick, and they would have told you in order: 1.TN 2.GA 3.FL.
Oh and yes, loosing to Georgia while being injured and told not to scramble, being sacked 6 times, and missing most of our already young defense due to injuries really makes TT look “insignificant.” If you will recall, he kept us in that game right into the 4th quarter also. As does loosing to Auburn by a last second FG, boy they really whooped us (once again our young defense managed to make even Brandon Cox look good, TT’s performance notwithstanding).
As far as stat padding and playing against patsies goes, Florida played against the 9th ranked SOS (according to Sagarin, others have Florida’s SOS as high as 2) and 4 ranked opponents, including 4 top 20 defenses. Compare this to Arkansas’ 64th ranked SOS, 3 ranked opponents and 2 top 20 defenses. If you watched any of those games, you would also know that TT was out in the fourth quarter in many of those, including taking a knee in the end of the FSU game where we could have scored again (personally, I wish we would have run it up, Spurrier style).
BTW, Tebow’s backup is Cam Newton, who is a photo negative version of TT (black and right handed), who is only slightly less capable than TT of running over you and passing all the same.
If you want to talk about supporting cast, McFadden would not be where he is without sharing his carries with Felix Jones. Some people say that Jones takes away from his numbers, but I would contend that the type of offense Arkansas runs requires the dual threat of DMac and Jones to be effective (without which defenses could focus solely on DMac). Besides, I think that DMac has shown himself not to be durable enough to run on every down.
As far as not having a running back, thank you for making my point for me. Our opponents KNOW what Timmy is going to do, and they STILL can’t stop him! LOL! And inside the red zone no less! That is part of what makes TT so special, he is a prototype QB that is changing the way the game will be played. There has never been anyone quite like him before.
Are you seriously comparing Stafford’s running to Tebow’s now? ROFL! Alright, this is where I give up, I am not even going to respond to that.
As I said, I don’t really think that you are so much pro-McFadden as you are anti-Tebow, but I will leave you with this anyway (taken from Gatorpilot on www.orangeandbluehue.com, because it is late, I am tired, and he makes the point much more succinctly than I):
“McFadden is a very fine running back and has had a great year. He’s also disappeared in a few games and his yardage, while impressive, has been exceeded by previous Heisman winners (even non-Heisman winners). Show me a McFadden who played well all year, in every game, and maybe we can have a conversation about it.
But as it stands there’s really no comparison between Tebow and McFadden. Tim Tebow has rewritten history. He is the first player to account for more than 20 rushing and 20 passing touchdowns. He actually holds the season record for touchdowns by a running back in the SEC… his group of admirers who trail in his dust in that dept. includes your guy McFadden. And by the way, he also threw for over 3,100 yards and 29 TDs, and has the highest QB pass efficiency rating of any previous Heisman quarterback.
It’s not a close race this year. Tim Tebow is the most dominant player in college football … and he will win this award going away. Mark it down.
Good luck to McFadden in the pros, where I expect him to do extremely well.”
By ron
December 8, 2007 7:59 AM | Link to this
i think today the notation of a junior/senior being recepients of the heisman only will cease.i’m not a florida gator fan but i can be opened-minded to see that tebow put up some fantastic numbers despite losing three games.yes he deserves the heisman this season.yes herschel was fantastic all three seasons but the mind set in those days that the heisman was reserved for seniors.no doubt if herschel had returned for his senior year he would have won.mcfadden is a great back and if he wins it will be great also.
By gabby
December 8, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Mcfadden should win the Heisman because he not like a qb who touches the ball on each play. he will touch the ball on less than 50% of the plays.For him to have the stats that he does is pretty remarkable.Ihave one question for Fla. fans if Tebow wins will he enter the NFL.draft or come back to Fla. and risk getting hurt.AS a bulldawg fan I hope he goes pro.
By Joe
December 8, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
If you look at Tebow’s Stats compaired to McFadden vs common opponents, Tebow’s stats are much better. Tebow didn’t pad his stats vs weak opponents..He as good of stats v. UT, UM, SC, FSU, as any oyher team
By Cade
December 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
I think the biggest Heisman injustice was back in 1971 when Pat Sullivan beat out Ed Marinaro. How could that possibly happen?
Sullivan was an excellent QB, an Academic All-American, and a gentleman…but Marinaro was a horse who happened to play for Cornell. He was the most outstanding player in college football that season.
By Matt
December 8, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
George Rogers deserved the award, just like Herschel did when he finally won it. Dawg fans are stupid. Let’s not forget Herschel played on a team with great players that didn’t go to class. If you don’t believe me, just ask Jan Kemp. He won one, only Archie Griffin was good enough to win 2. Get over the 80’s.
By GOZAR
December 11, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this
I GUESS IS AL (I ALWAYS FLY MY PRIVATE JET) GORE CAN WIN THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE THEN A THREE TIME LOOSER LIKE TBOW CAN WIN.
WHAT A SICK WORLD!!!!!!!!!