Mr. College Football

By baloney

December 4, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

You’re crazy.You should be the one that they ordered a psychiatric test for.

By ACC Rules!

December 4, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Did everyone see the overflow crowd at the ACCC in Jacksonville Saturday? Incredible, what an atmosphere! The ACC once again proved it’s the best conference in America!

By Eric1

December 4, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Too bad anyone has to be relegated to the Chicken Bowl. War Eagle anyway.

By TSB

December 4, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Looks like Clemson is on the verge of becoming the official farm team for the Arkansas Razorbacks.

By baloney

December 4, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

What if you threw a conference championship game for 2 straight years and nobody came? What? Huh? You mean they already did that? You mean that hardly anybody goes to the ACC championship game?

By polyman

December 4, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I’d say “ACC Rules” is either a troll or a crack head! Some of the teams in the ACC were once among the best in the country. No longer. V-Tech lost to UGA last season and got WAXED by LSU this year. Finest conference? No, I don’t think so!!

By polyman

December 4, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

The ACC is the finest conference??? V-tech got WAXED by UGA last season and WAXED by LSU this season! Finest conference my…..eye. LOL

By scoop

December 4, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

What, NOTHING on Tech….from the HOMETOWN paper? SHOCKING!!!!

By flip

December 4, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Uhhhh… polyman… Did it cross your mind that “ACC Rules” was being sarcastic?

By Quincy C.

December 4, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

If Bowden leaves Clemson…look for Vandy Coach and Clemson Alum…Bobby Johnson to be the next coach at Clemson….

By Nick

December 4, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Bowden to Arkansas is interesting. Who would go to Clemson? This offseason just keeps getting more interesting. Maybe Terry could replace Tommy!

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

December 4, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

ACC Rules is just being sarcastic. You could see the gaps in seating on the rare instances when the crowd was shown. According to Wikipedia, attendance for the last three years has fallen from 72,749 to 62,850 to 53,212. No wonder Jacksonville wants to ditch the ACC Championship game. In case you are wondering, SEC Championship game attendance has been even for the last three years at around 73,500. Frankly, I am surprised that ACC attendance is down from last year as I cannot imagine a less desirable combination than of Wake versus Tech, but in any event if the trend of losing 10,000 in attendance every year continues then no one will show up in 4 or 5 years.

By Ramblin Wrecker

December 4, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Am I the only one aggravated by how coaching searches go? Why is there such a need for secrecy? What is wrong with putting out a press release that says “we’ve contacted Larry, Daryl & Daryl, told them we’re interested in talking with them about our open coaching position and we’ve made the necessary contacts to request permission to speak with them. Larry & Daryl have agreed to speak with us and are scheduled in next week to do so. Daryl however has said thank you, but he’s happy at Northern Alabama Technical College. A decision should come soon after those meetings.” Why must we squeeze blood from a stone just to find out who is going to be interviewed and have to read stories about an NFL head coach stumping for one of his coordinators for the GT job, who was never likely even a consideration? Go on record with a list of candidates (who have agreed to be candidates) and go about interviewing. If those candidates are exhausted without choosing one, then make another list and repeat. Don’t keep your fanbase in the dark. Afterall, these are the people you’re hoping to please with this hire and who you hope will show up to support him next season. You might make them happier if they feel the search is done openly. If you keep the candidates a secret, one might wonder if you know the fans won’t be happy with these candidates. Just a thought.

By Dawgingatorville

December 4, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Eric1, The bowl game in Atlanta formaly known as the PEACH BOWL is a great bowl game with a great atmosphere. It is a great way to spend New Years Eve. But I dis-like what the Chicken people did to our bowl game! Change it back to the PEACH BOWL!

By bdawg

December 4, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Prediction: LSU trounces Oh. State in the NCG and Les Miles jumps ship to Michigan just like that scumbag swore he wouldn’t…. It’s a fairy tale begining for the Wolverines. They get a Title winner and a Buckeye slayer in one grimy individual

By Geoff

December 4, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

I assume ACC Rules was being sarcastic because I never knew that so many empty seats makes for a great football atmosphere. Of course that may make the tech folks nostalgic for grant field.

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

December 4, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

I agree with bdawg. Is it me or does it look like Michigan is not looking for a new coach any more than O.J. is looking for his wife’s killer? Unless we hear some news quickly I have to think it’s Miles to Michigan.

By charlotte dawg

December 4, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Hey Ramblin Wrecker,

Do you seriously not understand why the searches are secret? Let’s say Tech wants to interview Randy Edsall. If they announce that, Uconn’s players, fans, and admin will demand he say he doesn’t want to leave. If he says he’s going to interview for the job and then doesn’t get it, he’s screwed.

A basic question: would you want your current employer to know you were interviewing for other jobs? Tech MUST keep their contacts as secret as possible or risk not getting any of theirn top candidates hired.

By bamadon

December 4, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Jimbo Fisher would be a very good head coach at Florida St. He did a good job at LSU as offense cordinator for Saban and Miles. He could get some very good talent for the seminoles!!

By Mike K.

December 4, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Heard thru the grapevine that Tommy isn’t leaving Clemson and in fact signed a new contract. Guess he pulled a Rich Rod on them.

By GT

December 4, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

College football is such a theater of contradiction. A coach tells the press he is not interested in a job for the betterment of the present team he is coaching and then is treated like a fool for lying in a situation that only a fool would have told the truth. Ohio State played the press like a fiddle to keep Miles out of Michigan. Loose lips sink ships, and the press is like an old maid aunt that always has her nose in someone else’s business to the betterment of no one and quiet often becomes an unwelcome news makers as oppose to a news reporter. Sports is accorded the same priviledges of the hard news press, with much less value and necessity in what they are reporting on. You could say it is petty compared to the real world. Could you imagine the networks changing the time and date of a summit meeting because it did not answer to their priviously scheduled programing or sponsoring the survival of our government the way they do college and pro sports. They could give millions to a presidential candidate and own him or her, instead the candidate gives the network millions and in all but title owns the networks. In an atmosphere as poisoned as college athletics, to question any deception that tries to protect privacy and not question the entire package is idiotic. “Other that that Ms. Lincoln how did you enjoy the theater?” The more chaos the more newspapers and air time sold and since we aren’t killing anybody why not churn it a little or maybe a lot if truth were told.

By Tella Tubby

December 4, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Terrance Moore is going to be the new head coach at Georgia Tech. Maybe he can coach better than he can write. He is just getting a promotion. Georgia Tech has “owned” The Atlanta Constitution for years!

By baloney

December 4, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Wozzo, there is absolutely no way in heck that there was anywhere close to 50k in the stands for the ACC game this year or last. I know that they may say that is “ticket sales” (or giveaways to the locals) but it’s the butts in the seats that really matters as far as the interest in the game is concerned.The upper deck on both sides were empty, let alone the upper deck endzones, then look at the amount of teal seats in the lower deck sidelines and it doesn’t take a genius to see that there would not have been more than 25k in the stands for either game.

By atlantanole0731

December 4, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Is the ACC championship game on the same caliber as the SEC? No.

But don’t blame it solely on the ACC or it’s teams.

Boston is 1,159 miles away from Jacksonville. Every try flying in or out of Jax? Not too cheap. Atlanta, however, is 524 from the farthest school in the SEC (Arkansas)and in addition is the hub for two major carriers and cheaper rates for all of the others. BIG Difference!!!

Boston College full-time enrollment? 14,000 people. Wake? 11,000 GT ~15,000. BIG DIFFERENCE!

How many of you could find anything other to do in Jacksonville besides the game? Good luck with that one. How many Gator bowls do you see being sold out? Jacksonville is a crap city. I think the ACC wants to move the game just as badly. The SuperBowl committee doesn’t even like the game in Jax.

When FSU played VTech in year one, the attendance and atmosphere was on par with the SEC title game. You put Mississippi State vs kentucky in the SEC title game and tell me how exciting it is. lol

By curiouscollegefan

December 4, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

And concerning the whole Les Miles/Michigan debacle.

Does ANYONE find it odd that the newsperson who broke the story about Les Miles was going to Michigan is Kirk Herbstreit who is an OHIO STATE ALUMNI!!!!

I’m guessing some of his OSU buddies fed the story to get Les to commit to LSU and thus making him less likely to go to Michigan (OSUs Biggest Rival)

Just a thought….

By Marietta Dawg

December 4, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Mr. College Football

Thanks for the update on Bowden. It confirms my hunch and what I’d heard from some friends close to the program. I believe that Fisher will be the next HC at FSU, but Bowden will not stop coaching until either Paterno retires or he knows that he will be the all-time leader in coaching victories. I think that he’s become selfish in his old age. Go Noles!!!

By Dawgcrzy

December 4, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

If GA would use their head they would work Richt up a long term extension.We need to make his contract unreachable for other schools.Fla State is the only school I’m really worried about,I hope the Jimbo Fisher rumor is true.Richt is the catch of a life time,and I don’t think he is planning on leaving,and we need to make sure of it.

By MURPHY

December 4, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

GEORGIA TECH NOT INTERESTED IN CUTCLIFF ?

WHAT A JOKE !!!! THE TECH HIGH BRASS ARE IDIOTS !!! AS A DAWG FAN IM GLAD TECH DOESNT WANT CUTCLIFF,HE HAS BEEN THE REASON TENN IS BACK TO BEATING US.

By GT

December 4, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

“selfish in his old age”, hell Bowden was selfish in his young age. Those old teams Tech played 10 years and more ago were cheap shot artist and bullies. They would KO poor Hamilton before he could get warmed up good. Then you would hear all this faith and charity from Brother Bowden. That benefits recruiting but just down right selfish evil benefited all the wins. He is nicer now and they can’t win a damn thing.

By atlantanole0731

December 4, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

So apparently hitting hard is not allowed in football anymore as per GT???

Hamilton did get rocked a few times, but pressuring him “before he could get warmed up good” is a lame excuse.

Should they just let him go a few series without the FSU defense on the field just to get a feel for the game?

COME ON! Has GT stooped this low to argue about rough play from 5+ years ago? haha

FSU has plenty to b*** about but you don’t see us complaining about the Miami games of the 90s.

FSU beat Tech b/c we had more depth and we played for 60 minutes….those were the good ‘ole days!

By Wrecker1

December 4, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Murphy who really knows what the interest levels are b/t TECH and Cucliffe. So much of this coaching “news” is just conjecture and rumor. I do agree with you that Cutcliffe is a good coach though. He’s really done a good job as an OC and QB coach and probably did as good a job at Ole Miss as one could do. He may not be a good fit at TECH though b/c it’s a lot different recruiting at TECH than it as Ole Miss or UT or Ugag. Those type schools annually have 3-4 kids that don’t qualify, “prep” for a year and try it again a year after HS. TECH seldom has a recruit that doesn’t qualify b/c the general thinking is if he can’t get in he won’t stay in.

By MURPHY

December 4, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Wrecker 1,

I disagree with you. I believe that with his credentials Cutcliff could recruit well at TECH. If he can win at Ole Miss-HE CAN WITH OUT A DOUBT WIN AT TECH. My son plays high school ball in Fla and a high % of kids that are being recruited from our area have good to outstanding grades.I dont believe it,s an issue of qualifing,it,s an issue on going to a winning program.Cutcliff would be the best coach available at this time for TECH.

By keith

December 4, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

I can’t help but laugh at the comments that the ACC is the best conference in college football. Whats even more funnier than that is the talk about how Ohio State is going to beat LSU. There is no way Ohio State is gonna beat LSU. And Georgia, now you are feeling what Auburn felt in 2004 when they got screwed by the money hungry BCS. Let’s quit messing around and throw the BCS to the curb and establish a playoff system. If they can screw up who plays in the BCS bowls, they can surely screw up a playoff system for a few years. Then atleast we can tweak on the future instead of trying to tweak something that is sucks and is hopefully going away.

By Christopher

December 4, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

*Boston College full-time enrollment? 14,000 people. Wake? 11,000 GT ~15,000. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Not even close, atlantanole! Wake has a full-time undergraduate enrollment of only 4,000. Graduate students MAY push it up to around 5,500.

By Christopher

December 4, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

*Boston College full-time enrollment? 14,000 people. Wake? 11,000 GT ~15,000. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Not even close, atlantanole! Wake has a full-time undergraduate enrollment of only 4,000. Graduate students MAY push it up to around 5,500.

By fred

December 4, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

In business—-and football IS A BIG BUSINESS—-when you know you have a person not right for the long term (but hanging on for now)you line up the person you want to pop in when you force the “loser’s” exit.

Seamless transition WITH IMPROVEMENT is a sure sign of leadership srength to all

Why put a program on “hold” when you are making the calls?

By Joe Mac

December 4, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

A Tuberville deal should be in place by next week? With whom?

By scooter11

December 4, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Why wouldn’t Johnson maybe just stay at Navy? Right now, they have the strongest football program of any you mentioned. And you didn’t say with which school Tubby would have a deal. Surely you meant AU(?)

By Joe D.

December 4, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Tech should hire Cutcliffe. The last time GT hired someone from Tennessee (Dodd), it seemed to work out pretty well. Maybe he could get GT out of the minor leagues and back into the SEC where Georgia Tech belongs.

By Phillip

December 4, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Cutcliffe would be a great hire for Tech. The type of players he recruited at Ole Miss and the type of scheme he ran there would fit nicely at Tech.
By the way, it wouldn’t be possible to print enough tickets for a Kentucky vs Mississippi State championship game.

By Ol Ball Coach

December 4, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

I’d like to hear why anyone thinks that OSU would not want Miles at UM. Tressel is 1-0 vs Miles (while at Oklahoma State a few years back, with a 3rd string QB no less). Miles has done a terrible job of coaching this year in spite of the talent on the team. Other than going for it on 4th down hasn’t shown the ability to get the team fired up in key situations.

By old Tech fan (in NC)

December 4, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry about the ACC champ game in Jax next year…look for Charlotte to grab it. If either VT or Clem(p)son is playing, they will come…

ACC vs South’s Easy Conf…well, SEC was OK this year…LOL!

I remember when Tech was in that group—beat a dog Butts often.

By War Eagle

December 4, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

MURPHY, in all due respect Coach Cutcliff weakness is recruiting. Look at Ole Miss today. they had NO upper class players. He is best QB coach coach in the country. He lacks personality and charm. Also, GT Athletic Dept. is not in the best financially shape compared to other ACC schools.Baines left them high(West Stands) and dry

By Average Joe

December 4, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this

AtlantaNole, you’re essentially right with respect to the ACC Championship game. BC’s undergraduate enrollment, however, is 9,000, not 14,000. And Wake’s, as has been pointed out, is roughly 4,000.

The ACC is a better academic conference, without a doubt—it was one of the reasons BC wanted to make the move from the Big East. And it’s a better basketball conference. The trifecta will come when Miami and FSU rebound; w/ BC and Va. Tech, it’ll be right there in football, too.

Check the link for graduation rates of the bowl-bound teams this year and tell me if the SEC (and Ga. Tech)has decided to prioritize football over graduating its student-athletes (especially black ones). What atrocious numbers. Six of the nine SEC teams fail to graduate 50% of its players and have a substantial racial gap. Three graduate over 50% with a substantial racial gap. Not good. Ga. Tech should be equally ashamed, as they represent the ACC poorly in this regard.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/graphics/jackson07college_rankings/

The SEC homers conveniently forget that the “horrible” Big 10 won 2 of 3 bowl games vs. the SEC last year, and also forget that the conference, since 1990, has a losing record against the Big East. Does that make the Big East the best football conference? No. But it would seem obvious to everyone except those with blinders on that there seems to be a superiority myth being perpetuated by SEC fans—which is explained due to a variety of reasons, i.e. despite Florida’s admirable success, it’s not a basketball conference so Falls mean more, the South claims ownership of the sport, history, parochialism, etc.

They will selectively forget that its 2nd best team this year lost to the Pac-10’s 7th best team this year by two touchdowns. Whoops. That the ACC, in a down year (w/o a strong Miami and FSU), played well against the SEC.

They will, ironically, argue that the conference is the best in the land, yet in the same breath push for UGA to make the NC game, despite not even winning its division inside the conference. Wouldn’t the conference champ sort of have a better claim, if it is indeed, far and away, the best conference?

Oklahoma and Nebraska, before getting blown out by USC and Miami respectively, at least made their conference championship games in the years in question.

As for the ACC championship game, Jacksonville is probably the absolutely worst place to hold the game. The ACC wants to move the game to Charlotte, which is a much better idea for obvious geographic reasons (walk-up ticket sales will improve exponentially in N.C., as well). It’s 1,020 miles from Boston to Jax. That’s akin to going from Athens up to Maine for the SEC Championship game. Oh, and cutting enrollment at Georgia by 3/4. Oh, and graduating your players.

So, it’s not always comparing apples to apples. Is the SEC a proud football conference? Absolutely, they’ve earned the right. But don’t be like everyone else in this world by choosing which facts to use to push your case and forgetting equally as compelling ones that disprove it. And don’t make blanket statements about the ACC Champ. game in Jax w/o understanding all of the legitimate reasons why it doesn’t work there.

Have a nice day.

By Brad in KY

December 4, 2007 11:46 PM | Link to this

Average Joe

Something tells me your post will fall on deaf ears. In fact, on these blogs, they’re not only deaf, they’re dumb too.

By GT55

December 5, 2007 12:50 AM | Link to this

I hope GT don’t let the grass grow under their feet before they make ever effort to signPaul Johnson. ANY ON THIS LIST WILL DO. JOHNSON WOULD BE 1ST jIMBO 2ND HATCHER 3RD CUTCLIFFE 4TH JEFF BOWER 5TH.Get it done. Time is important to prospect

By Matt

December 5, 2007 6:35 AM | Link to this

All you Dawg fans begging for a playoff, based on the final BCS rankings, which is what they’d use: If it was an 8-team playoff, you’d get OU in the first round (loss), and if it were a 16-teamer, you’d get a healthy Tebow and Florida in the first round (revenge loss). Playoffs have a way of exposing pretenders, just like UGA — in the end, who’ve they really beaten? A wounded Florida? A down Auburn team? Mediocre Ga Tech? And don’t forget the bad losses you had. OU and UF would mop the floor with UGA, so be careful what you wish for.

By Bobby Knight

December 5, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

MATT-YOUR AN IDIOT…REVENGE LOSSES…..ummm ok. PLayoffs have a way of exposing pretenders????? PLAYOFFS ALSO GIVE “CHANCES TO WILD CARD AND UNDERRATED TEAMS” a chance to win. UGA is no pretender son. Ask any expert in the country. Check the rankings….check our bowl game. Check next years preseason poll. CHECK OUR RETURNING ROSTER. CHECK THE ALL SEC RB WHO WILL ONLY BE A SOPHMORE.CHECK OUR RETURNING QB..A JUNIOR…CHACK THE 4 OUT OF 5 RETURNING LINEMAN CHECK 8 STARTES BACK ON D. End the End who we beat was AU by 25…UF AND THE SO CALLED HEISMAN FRONT RUNNER BY 2 SCORES…..BEAT KENTUCKY AND HELD THEM TO 13…THE TEAM THAT BEAT ONE HALF OF THE NC GAME….ALL 3 RANKED AT THE TIME I MIGHT ADD…And NOw we play in a BCS game against the only undefeated team in the nation. UF Should have mopped the Floor with UGA when they had a chance…instead they were basically mopped themselves from start to finish. A down AU team? A DOWN AU TEAM THAT HAD WON 6 OUT OF 7 GAMES COMING INTO THE UGA GAME…WITH THAT LOSS COMING TO LSU..AGAIN one HALF OF THE NC GAME. I guess the only thing you did get right was TECH…they are average.

AND OHIO STATE IS A FRAUD…NOT UGA…THEY BEAT 1 TEAM RANKED IN THE FINAL BCS POLL….THAT TEAM IS NOT IN TOP 10 EITHER…THE HIGHEST RANKED TEAM THEY BEAT ALL YEAR IN THE POLLS WAS MICHEGAN…TERRIBLE…THE ONLY BCS TEAM THEY PLAYED THEY LOST TO…ILLINOIS…WHO DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE THERE THEMSELVES…SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT BEING EXPOSED YOU BETTER LOOK AT OHIO STATE…THEY WILL GET EXPOSED ONCE AGAIN AND THE BIG 10 WILL BE EXPOSED FOR BEING WELL THE BIG 10….BUT DON”T JUST COME ON HERE SPITTING STUPIDITY. PLAYOFFS HAVE A WAY FOR WILD CARDS TO WIN..NOT JUST EXPOSE PRETENDERS LIKE UGA YOU SAY…YOU DON”T HAVE A CLUE SON….REMEMBER THE STEELERS A FEW YEARS BACK??????? OU AND UF WOULD MOP THE FLOOR WITH UGA….UF HAD THEIR CHANCE….AND IT DIDN”T PAN OUT SO GREAT FOR THEM…I ONLY COULD WISH FOR A MATCHUP AND A CHANCE AT OHIO STATE…THEY ARE THE TRUE PRETENDERS… POST SOMETHING WORTH ANYTHING.

By inside the hive

December 5, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

You heard it hear first: Tech is talking not JUST to Johnson, but to a “secret candidate as well.” I know someone inside the program who says that Spurrier has reached out to tech and is interested in the opening. Also, Patrino continues to put feelers out there to see if Tech is willing to talk to him. Tech is in a great position and should have its pick. We do not need a Georgia grad (no way in hell), a SEC assistant or to prove anything by hiring a minority for the sake of hiring a minority. We can have our pick, and my money is on the man who made his name as the Duke coach before winning a NC somewhere else.

By ACC defender

December 6, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Average Joe,

I agree with all of your points and applaud you for that..unfortunately, I don’t think anyone will actually listen to your arguments on here as (especially UF fans) are insanely obnoxious and make judgements not based in reality. The ACC is by far a superior academic conference made up of more Private schools and better rated universities. In my opinion, the ACC should get Vandy (who is a rising star in football and basketball, and already there in baseball) and send Clemson packing. With UM and FSU back into it next year for football, I’d love to see some SEC/ACC matchups..and wins. Oh yeah, UF sucks and I hate that place. Your commercials are gay and everyone hates your school as you are annoying and obnoxious. Your best player was homeschooled, never stepped foot in a classroom and continues not to. Family, youth and community studies is not a major, that is a common sense life skill.

By DirtDobber

December 6, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

So who is the secret candidate on GT’s list ?

By Truth Teller

December 6, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

ACC Defender,

Your proposal to send Clemson packing might have made sense 15 years ago when Danny Ford ran the show in Tiger Town. You might be interested to know that Clemson’s academic ranking (according to US News & World Report) now surpasses half of the schools in the ACC. The academic progress, by the way, has not come at the expense of athletics - basketball, baseball and football are all competitive on the national stage.

Check your facts next time.