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DEL.ICIO.USJuicy tidbits from the final coaches poll
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Some juicy tidbits in from the voting in the final USA Today coaches poll:
• A few coaches, seven to be exact, had Georgia No. 2 on their final ballots. They included Neil Callaway of UAB, the Bulldogs’ former offensive line coach. Connecticut coach Randy Edsall, Texas Tech’s Mike Leach, Georgia coach Mark Richt, Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, Tulane coach Bob Toledo, and Notre Dame coach Charlie Weiss had the Bulldogs at No. 2. (See Richt’s ballot)
• The seven SEC coaches who vote in the poll all had Georgia in their top five. All but one, Georgia’s Richt, had LSU in their final top two: Mississippi State’s Sylvester Croom (LSU 2, Georgia 3), Tennessee’s Phillip Fulmer (LSU 2, Georgia 4), LSU’s Les Miles (LSU 1, Georgia 3), Ole Miss’s Houston Nutt (LSU 2, Georgia 3), Georgia’s Richt (Georgia 2, LSU 3), South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier (LSU 2, Georgia 4), Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville (LSU 1, Georgia 5).
• Coaches tend to follow the party line and 54 of the 60 had Ohio State No. 1 or No. 2 on their ballots. But there is some skepticism about the Buckeyes, (11-1) and their soft schedule. Six coaches had Ohio State No. 3 or lower. Mario Cristobal of Florida International had Ohio State No. 6 while Auburn’s Tuberville had the Buckeyes at No. 3.
• Eleven coaches, including Florida State’s Bobby Bowden, North Carolina’s Butch Davis, and Auburn’s Tuberville, had LSU No. 1.
• Not surprisingly, Frank Beamer, whose Virginia Tech team was drilled 48-7 in Baton Rouge on Sept. 8, had LSU No. 1 in his final ballot. He had his own team, the ACC champion, ranked No. 2, and Georgia sixth.
• LSU coach Les Miles had his team No. 1 and Ohio State No. 2 with Georgia No. 3.
• South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier voted his buddy, Bob Stoops of Oklahoma, No. 1 in his final ballot. He had LSU No. 2, Virginia Tech No. 3 and Georgia No. 4.
• Stoops, understandably, had his team ranked No. 1 after beating Missouri twice this season. He had three Big 12 teams in his top four (Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas). He had LSU at No. 6.
• 40 of the 60 coaches who vote in the poll had LSU No. 1 or No. 2 on their ballots.
• Somebody at Georgia made Wyoming’s Joe Glenn mad at some point. He had Georgia No. 10 on his ballot.
• You got to give the Big Ten coaches credit for one thing. They all stick together. Seven of them vote in the poll and they all had Ohio State No. 1, even Michigan’s Lloyd Carr, who has announced his retirement.
• Hal Mumme of New Mexico State continues to be our resident contrarian in the coaching fraternity. He had undefeated Hawaii No. 1 on his ballot.
• See USA Today’s chart on how each coach voted
Comments
By JP Helton
December 3, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Lost in all the BCS mess, is the fact that 3 teams from the SEC should be in BCS Bowls based on rankings (LSU, UGA, and UF). The conference rule that only allows 2 teams is a joke when you are talking about a conference that has 3 teams in the top 10. If the rule didn’t exist this year, it would have assured that every bowl eligible team in the SEC could get a spot!
By otisfirefly
December 3, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this
Just goes to show there is nothing qualified about the poll system to elect who is the best in the country. It’s like high school kids voting for their best friend for homecoming queen…….blah….
By Brian
December 3, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this
JP,
Talk to Wisconsin last year. The same thing happened last year when they got shut out of a BCS bowl beacuse of the dumb “2 team only” rule.
The schools presidents have this rule in place, so they can make sure that their budgets will never fluctuate that much.
By Jim 70
December 3, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this
Can’t win your conference or even play for the chance to win, you shouldn’t be going to the title game.
There should be a playoff - BUT only conference champions from the six BCS schools, and the next two: any independent who is in the top 10 of the final polls and/or the top two next conference champions from the smaller conferences. Those eight play in the four major bowls, then three more games. YOU HAVE TO WIN YOUR CONFERENCE!
By G8TR
December 3, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this
Tony - You have Tuberville listed with two different No. 5’s. Which teams was it? Also, can someone figure out that the AJC sports polls ought to be written and addressed to more than just Bulldogs? Notice this morning’s poll - it’s all from the UGA point of view. Ever notice that fans of other programs read the AJC, too?
By Tom
December 3, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
DAWG GONE!!
By Michael
December 3, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this
Tech should hire Zook as their coach because he’s a known Dawg killer and he tricked his way into the Rose Bowl against USC.
By Ken
December 3, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
Can’t expect much more out of a C**. Steve Spurrier is so stupid. Enough said. Need not waste time on him. Time is to precious. Now Wyoming? Who the hell are they? They have a football team? We have high schools here in GEORGIA that gets more recognition than they do. So lease get a team and then you can put you 2 cents in. Until then, stay out of this college football conversation.
By pfffft
December 3, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
i love when a team feels they got shafted just because of where they were ranked, before allll of the games were played. they were leap frogged by 3 teams who qualified and won thier conference championships. plain and simple. it is simple math as the ga player mentioned. while uga was at home watching they were still playing and winning. i cant wait for the sugar bowl. ask oklahoma about how bad those wac teams are. it could get interesting. the system sux for sure. but if you want to take the variables out of it win your conference championship.
By Michael
December 3, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
G8TR, Since you are reading this on the net how about surfing over to TDO.COM or some other Florida paper to see what you want. Whiner.
By Spike
December 3, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
Enough is enough! UGA won the 2002 SEC championship with one loss and did not play for the NC. Auburn goes undefeated and wins the SEC and does not play for the NC. HAVE AN EIGHT TEAM PLAYOFF!! Ohio State did not play a top 20 team, much less beat one. UGA palyed four and beat all four.
By David
December 3, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
The BCS is a pathetic excuse of a “system”. What a joke. Missouri gets left out because they played an extra game yet they beat a 9-3 Illinois and Kansas head-to-head.
NOBODY deserves to play for the Championship. That’s the point. LSU lost twice when ranked #1. Ohio State played one ranked team and 0 out of conf BCS conference games and the Big 10 has no championship. Georgia lost to SC at home and TN handily. SC lost to Stanford, VT got crushed by LSU. Oklahoma lost to a mediocre TT and Colorado.
So they put LSU and Ohio State in the game and the next four teams that everybody wants to see play each other and see how they match up…NOBODY play each other. It is a ——ing joke!
By FLA DAWG
December 3, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
How the he!! can Ohio State & UGA both be idle at 3 & 4 on Saturday then be 1 & 5 on Sunday?!
BCS Bulshite!!!!!!!!!!!
By Bob
December 3, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
Maybe that is why Wyoming’s coach got fired. LOL
Tony, who is Lou Holtz going to rave about today? On Saturday night after all the games it was LSU and how they deserved to be in. Last night suddenly it was OU and how they were better than LSU. And Kirk Herbstreit had no problem last year lobbying intensly for Michigan even though they had lost to Michigan in the “greatest game in history”. I guess if you don’t win the Big Ten you should qualify for the Big Game. And is it true that Ohio State is playing undefeated Tucker this weekend at Adams stadium?
Georgia does not deserve the NC Game because LSU won the conference. Period. We need to focus on Hawaii or we will look like we did against WVU or like OU did against Boise last year.
By Dawg Fud
December 3, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
So did Tuberville have Georgia or Ohio State at five? Which is it, Tony? He can’t rank them both five can he?
By fbreese
December 3, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
I tend to trust the consesus of coaches. If 54 of 60 vote OU as 1 or 2 and 40 of 60 vote LSU as 1 or 2, then thats it. These coaches are more knowledgeable of who is the best in the nation than any armchair QB, they voted, now live with it.
By John
December 3, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Wyoming gets a vote?!?!
By Colonial Dawg
December 3, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Uh, Spike….I’d LIKE to agree with you, but I can’t. We did lose to Tennessee but 3 and 1 ain’t bad. Ohio State played 2 top twenties, losing to Illinois and beating Wisconsin.
By wildboar
December 3, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
What would have happened if there was a 2 or 3 way tie in the Big10 or Pac10? No championship game, so there would be a tie with the highest ranked team getting the BCS nod. Georgia was tied with LSU and Tenn with 2 losses and we were the highest ranked in the BCS. We are not playing on equal footing.
By G8TR
December 3, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
Michael: I have the good fortune to live in ATL and am well-rounded enough to read a variety of papers, most of which don’t pander. While I appreciate and understand the homer aspect of any local news, the whining of the Pups over the weekend reached hysterical proportions, fed by the AJC myth that UGA was qualified for the NC game (a lame argument that the rest of the nation clearly did not buy into). But, hey, that’s your UGA brand — an ungracious coach and deluded fans who want more than they deserve.
By ToccoaDawg
December 3, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
If Ohio State is number one then Hawaii should be number two if you look at who they played. Talkin about a soft schedule. Hawaii just dont have the name. Im a Dawg fan and a SEC fan and history is going to repeat its self again this year like last year LSU is a lock as the NC like Fla. last year. Even Hawaii could have takin down Ohio St. They will give us fits I promise. But I guess you got have the name to play in this game. For it is not the schedule you play are the wins. This has been proven over and over. The SEC will rule again in this year in these bowls. May go undefeated from what I see. We will win in dog fight agenst Hawaii. LSU will win in a blow out. Same true if we would have played Ohio St. Same true with Hawaii. GO DAWGS AND THE SEC SIC UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
By Brad
December 3, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
I may be the only GA fan that understands. With the UGA howling now, could you imagine how much louder it would be if we were in LSU’s shoes at 11-2 (just won a conf title)and a really good 10-2 LSU team got in to the NC game?? There would really be some property destroyed. Bottom line is all 7-8 teams that had a legit shot at the NC title game at some point didn’t win when they were supposed to, and now we’re left with this mess. One good play on either side of the ball against SCarolina and all this would be for naught. So let’s quit the whining and the bellyaching (and that goes for OK, VT, and USC fans too) and enjoy our bowl games. Be glad you have a top-tier team and stand behind ‘em. As Richt says, the NC game is a beauty (contest) pageant. I agree.
By fbreese
December 3, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
As an LSU alum and fan, I personally wish that LSU had gone to the Sugar and played Hawaii. I think they are a better team than Ohio U and would have been a better test for us. Whoever win the NC this year is going to face tons of contorversey and its going to take away from the enjoyment for all. That being said, I will trust 60 coaches to choose the best teams. If 54 say Ohio is 1 or 2 and 40 says LSU is 1 or 2 then live with it. These guys are more knowledgeable than any armchair QB.
By PM
December 3, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
Why did Richt have a blank on his ballot? Why is that allowed? What other mistakes are made because the coaches don’t take the time to fill the ballot out correctly and conscientiously?
By OldSchoolDawg
December 3, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
So much for strength-of-schedule being a BCS factor. The message is clear: If you want into the NC game, first schedule as many non-conference patsies as possible. I’m talking about the Kents, Youngstown States, and the Akrons of the world.
Don’t forget to throw in a very weak team from a BCS conference(like the Pac-10’s Washington) so your efforts to pad your schedule aren’t so obvious.
Next, and perhaps most importantly, get yourself into a weak BCS conference. This way, you’ll play teams like Northwestern, Minnesota, Purdue, and Michigan State during the meat of your schedule.
The weak BCS conference thing is crucial, because even when you’re supposed to be having a “showdown” (with ESPN Gameday there and everything), you’re REALLY playing a pretender (think Penn State, Wisconsin, and Michigan).
It’s true, you’re bound to run into one dangerous team (like Illinois), but even if you lose, you’ll still be ranked near the top, because you only have one loss and you’re a BCS conference champion (even though the conference doesn’t really provide much competition at all).
Put Ohio State in the SEC East and see where they end up… fourth maybe?
By Henry
December 3, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Georgia did not win the SEC, not even their division. I don’t see what all the fuss is about. They just aren’t a National Championship team.
By Dawgblitz
December 3, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
It’s funny how everyone says win your conference. Does anybody remember the Oklahoma debacle a few years ago? They got blasted by Kansas State in the Big 12 title game and still got a bid. I don’t want to hear this BS about your team getting shafted because you know as well as I do, if it was your team, you would be saying the same thing. The Dawgs deserved a shot at the national title, but, because the media wrote them off before the final vote, they didn’t get the nod. It’s OK though, next year the Dawgs won’t have to worry about it, they’ll be the champs out right and will be in the title game. Oh I also think it’s funny how every Tech fan says get a coach that’s a dog killer, like the guy who posted that about Zook. Shouldn’t you be worrying about winning the lowly ACC, not beating Georgia. Besides, the streak is seven and it will be eight after next season. Go Dawgs!!!
By boots
December 3, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Tony, why did you jump on the bandwagon and keep pushing OH State and LSU playing each other before the BCS. If Georgia can’t count on you to politic as much as your buddy, Jerk Herbstreit, then we are left fighting an uphill battle. In watching ABC and ESPN on Saturday night (both owned by the same people), it seemed to me that their push was coordinated. As soon as it became clear that WV would lose, it was all about pushing OH State and LSU. In a spot where you could argue for Georgia, OK, VA Tech or even Kansas, why did 100% of the ABC / ESPN crew push LSU??? Just could not happen that way unless it was planned for some reason.
By Tville Dawg
December 3, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Ranked No 5 at year end and playing in the Sugar Bowl. If you had that information at the beginning of the season, there would be a resounding YES!!!!!
Having an opportunity to finish out the year in the Top 5 and setting the table for a NC run in 08-a resounding YES!!!!
The stupid loss to South Carolina and the drubbing by TENN is reason enough to satisfy me that maybe we didn’t belong in the title game. Clean these things up next year, and we’ll have more of an argument.
With our returnees in 08, and the strong finish this year, we’ll certainly be close to the top the heap in preseason. From there, take care of business, and we’ll be fine.
Great year to be a DAWG.
By G8TRHater
December 3, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
G8TR,
Since you are well rounded enough to read several different newspapers, you should also be intelligent enough to realize that Mark Richt is probably the MOST gracious collegiate coach in the game. If you do not realize this, then you need to do more readings from more newspapers.
The fact is, UGA had a chance to be voted in to the BCS Championship. UGA is a local team with a huge fan base in the market. If you can not understand why the AJC gave this topic so much publicity, then I am sorry for your stupidity.
Thank you for gracing us this morning, now please retreat to whatever hole you slithered out of.
By chris
December 3, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
None of the upcoming bowl games means squat! Football takes a back seat to money and politics. Bowl games and BCS championship games are meaningless and everyone knows it. Even if the Dawgs were in the “Big” game, you can’t be blind to the fact that there are other deserving teams as well. Until there is a playoff system in place (8 teams), forget about it, end of story. No one can look at the Ohio St. schedule and truly feel that they are worthy of their position in the polls. LSU (if healthy) will crush them.
By dawgsig
December 3, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Tommy Tuberville is a joke. He hates Georgia so much that he put Hawaii ahead of UGA. We won’t forget that!
By Reality
December 3, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
I know that everyone would like to be in the NC game. However, if you look at the resumes of all the 2 loss teams, the people with a vote put the fairest matchup in the final game. If you take a look outside of the state of GA, that is the overwhelming opinion except for the states of VA, OK and CA. There is definitely some home town bias, which is understandable. The only writer I am most disappointed with is Mark Bradley. I would have hoped that a writer could objectively look at this and report accordingly. T. Moore, of all people, actually got it right. As far as people wanting to know how you can be idle and move backwards, that’s what happens when other teams play in conference championships. They either get rewarded or penalized depending on the result. Some teams that won moved up and the losers fell back in the polls. It seems that Missouri fans would be awfully upset that they fell behing GA by playing the game while the Dawgs got to sit home.
By DWG
December 3, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Tubs is a sore loser. He had uga at 5 and lsu at 1. Didn’t like that pounding too much between the hedges I guess. I agree with playoff with 6 conf. champs and 2 at large. The fact is that it’s not out of the question for a great team to lose early, have only one loss and get left out of the conf championship game. If you exclude a potential top 5 team from a playoff system then it’s just as bad as the current system. I think this year because LSU had the same record and won the SEC they deserve the title shot. As a dawg fan I just wish the BCS was set up to make more intriguing matchups instead of sticking with the conference tie ins and having mediocre games. USC UGA would have been a great game. Ok - VT too.
By John
December 3, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Just goes to show you this poll should NOT count. They vote their friends, conference teams or themselves all high. Spurrier’s is odd. That Richt picked his team ahead of LSU is rich. Ah…they beat Tenn - ateam that beat his by 21 pts. I think he must have forgotten about that one.
By MW-GTfan
December 3, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
* BCS = JOKE *
LSU probably has the most talent in country, but are completely undisciplined and have played far below their capablity. OSU has had creampuff schedule. If OSU played any of the next 5 ranked teams 5 times, they’d lose to each of them at least 4 times. At the end of the season UGA and USC (the one on the left coast) were playing the best football in the country. Some years the BCS works. This isn’t one of them. This year is a perfect example of the need for a play-off system. We’ll never get one as long as we continue to support the BCS system. I am not watching any BCS bowls this season.
By ToccoaDawg
December 3, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
Right with ya Tville Dawg Im like a kid lookin down the candy rack at walmart how sweet it is and going to be a DAWG the next fews years and may we have many more……….
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
I was born in University Hospital about 200 yards from Ohio Stadium. My folks went to OSU.
I went to UGA.
I understand why LSU jumped over us. My only complaint is that I would’ve rather played USC or Oklahoma than Hawai’i. Nothing against June Jones (former Falcon QB and coach - remember the “Chuck and Duck?”) and the Rainbow Warriors. I just beleive that a UGA-USC game, or UGA-OU, would’ve been a much more compelling game.
Other than LSU and OSU, who is excited about any of the BCS games?
All that being said: GO BUCKS!!!
By Dennis G. Berdanis
December 3, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
It’s not LSU jumping us but #9 Oklahoma jumping up to #3 that has my blood boiling. Why don’t they just make the rules that the top 6 spots go to BCS conference champions and no one else is allowed in those spots. Then we could have had a scenario where 6-5 UCLA was in the top 6 and everyone would see how stupid giving conference champions a pass is.
By KR
December 3, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
dawgsig wrote: Tommy Tuberville is a joke. He hates Georgia so much that he put Hawaii ahead of UGA. We won’t forget that!
What part don’t you understand?
Hawaii is undefeated.
UGA lost to a 6-6 team and got a beat down from the loser of the SEC Championship Game.
Seems simple enough…
By t_height
December 3, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
There really needs to be another system because human votes are never honest votes. Everybody is going on their likes and dislikes of teams, not the best teams. If teams want to make the big game, they need to schedule their non-conference games against more competitive teams. I really think the preseason ranking is what throws these polls off. I don’t think there should be a early preseason poll because you can’t tell who is the best team in the country if no one has played a game and you don’t know how the teams on their schedule will pair up. Nov. should be the time when the real polls come out. Ohio State has gotten into the championship game twice in a row with a weak conference. Not even their second best team in the conference is a threat to compete for a national title so why are they in. USC haven’t been in a conference with real competion for a while. what team in the SEC has won 6 or 7 straight conference championships in the last 2 or 3 decades. I don’t think it has happend and I don’t think it will ever happend. So until we get a better system, we will never see the best and most deserving teams play in the national title game.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
One more item:
UGA would’ve taken either of those LSU or Tenn. teams to the woodshed Saturday night. UGA would’ve won by two touchdowns against either of them.
No brag, just fact!
By Bob
December 3, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
John, Duh? Every coach that had a team in the mix picked his team #1 or #2. Why wouldn’t he do that? At least the Ole Ball Coach didn’t pick Duke #1. Did Pete Caroll pick his team #1 or #2? Did he forget the Standford game. Did Stoops forget the Colorado and Texas Tech games?
And I have no problem with Tubs picking LSU #1, because I think they probably deserve it. But picking UGA behind Hawaii is a bit bizzare for a guy who constantly talks about how tough the SEC is. Whatever, it is their opinion and it really doesn’t matter much in the end.
By Eric1
December 3, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Maybe UGA deserves to be in the national championship and maybe not. But one thing is for certain, LSWHO DOES NOT deserve to be there. I think the voters chose lsu at the beginning of the season and now they just want to prove themselves correct. It sucks, but who ya gonna call? Note to Tommy: either p-ss or step away from the pot. War EAGLE!!!
By General Neyland
December 3, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Richt’s vote is the most outrageous. Mizzou and Kansas are much more legitimate than UGA who lost at home to lowly USC and got destroyed on the road at Tennessee. And Hawaii doesn’t deserve a BCS game, either. So the Sugar should make for an uneventful exhibition.
By G8TR
December 3, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Like I said, graceless fans led by a Cane-playin’, Nole-coach dressed in Dawg clothing. Can’t even accept the Sugar Bowl with class.
By woodstockGT
December 3, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
UGA sucks. Ohio State would shut them down and beat them by 21 pts. After all , they beat Vandy by a last sec field goal.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Hey G8TR,
Last time I looked, “Mr. Heisman” Tim Tebow was still looking for his teeth at the Gatorbowl after UGA got through with him.
Go pound sand!!
By Bob
December 3, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
KR, Yeah whatever. If you believe that then logically Tubs should have voted Hawaii #1, not #4. The guy used the tough SEC argument till the sky fell when Auburn did get screwed in 04. Although they did not release the coaches votes then, I have a pretty strong suspicion that Richt had AU in that game.
Regardless, its his opinion and he is entitled to it. Lets see what happens on New Years night.
By Roswell Ed
December 3, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
This makes me angry and it shouldn’t because you know it’s going to happen.
How is Ohio St in this thing?
Their best win was against Michigan!!
Where is the “their out of conference schedule was too weak” argument?
They played the freaking Penguins, Zips and the Golden Flashes!!
That argument was made when an SEC Champion 13-0 team was left out of the argument in 2004.
What was #2 Okla’s best out of conference game that year?
An Oregon team that finished 5-6.
Getting back to OSU:
How was their situation different from UGA’s? Why did they get bumped up from three to one and UGA stalls?
Why wasn’t LSU ranked ahead of UGA before the final poll if everyone moved them 3-5 slots after a well deserved but lackluster win?
It reminds me of ‘85 when AU was 3rd, Texas was two and Neb was one.
Neb lost and a Ga team that AU had beaten a few weeks earlier beat Texas the only team that had beaten AU that year in I believe the first or 2nd game of the year!!
So 1 and 2 lost and 3 won. Logic sez that number 3 **would jump to #1,
but not in the great world of the **poll beauty pageant contest.
AU ended up third.
The win wasn’t pretty enough for the voters!!
What time is it in Texas Dog fans?
The bottom line is that UGA is not pretty enough for some of these voters.
There have been teams that have had UGA’s credentials but were considered a lot PRETTIER and got in to the champ game!!
ie. Neb and Okl.
What a freaking SHAME!!
I don’t mean to kick a man when he’s down, but does this finally convince the BULLDOG NATION that you’re not who you think you are? You’re not considered an attractive elite program nationwide.
Welcome to my world!!
One question to prove that to you deniers-
If So Cal were in your position last night:
WHO WOULD BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME?
The BCS sucks hard!!
War Eagle!!
By Madison
December 3, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
G8TR, You evidently haven’t been reading this paper long or you would know that the sports page is published in Athens by the Red and Black staff.
By Villa Rica DAWG
December 3, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
So Tuberville had UGA and OSU at #5????
By 87dawg
December 3, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
By the way, UGA did win it’s division. They didn’t go to the Championship because of the head-to-head with tennessee that allowed ut to go.
I’m not so much annoyed that we won’t be in the NC as I am that LSU and Ohio State will be. This was the matchup the decision makes wanted all along and made it happen. I could see Oklahoma before these 2. I mean really, how many times do you get a shot at number one, blowing it each time (LSU)?
I still don’t understand how, knowing UGA wasn’t playing for the conference last week they still made them number 4. If they had no intention of putting them in the NC the voters should have had the padding of the team they really wanted in ranked at 4 and UGA at 5.
And for folks to vote UGA as low as number 10 is just plain stupidity and folks should be evaluated on their ability to be objective. Personal feelings or prejudices have no place in deciding the NC.
By Bob
December 3, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
General Neyland,
I am a bit surprised by your comments. Doesn’t sound like your normal rational self. Maybe it isn’t you. Your own coach voted Georgia #4. So I guess if Richt’s vote is outrageous, what does that make your coach’s vote….as he had UGA ranked ahead of both KU and Mizzou.
G8TR, enjoy Orlando. See if you can beat Michigan this time! Be thankful that UCLA gave you a shot last year. Our classless coach has finished ahead of your Gators 5 of last 6 years at the helm.
By Roswell Ed
December 3, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
One more thing:
What does the fact that LSU didn’t lose in regulation have anything to do with anything?
This isn’t hockey where you get a point if you lose in overtime is it?
LSU has lost twice since UGA lost!
Can you tell this ANGERS ME!!
By Reality
December 3, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
Truthman, your opinion is that GA would beat TN or LSU Saturday night. The reality is that TN already beat GA VERY handily and would more than likely do so again. The rest of the country also would have the opinion that LSU would beat GA if they played. The exact same thing was said last year after TN blew out GA in Athens. A month later the statements starting surfacing again that GA would now blow out TN because it was now playing better. The only way to solve these arguments is on the field, not on a blog amongst your own fans. Please try to be more objective and your arguments will have more validity. Congrats on a great season.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
To all the Buckeye haters on this blog!
TOO FREAKIN’ BAD!!
That Yankee team you love to hate gets to play for the NC two years in a row.
You’re still mad because of the those great Ohioians Grant and Sherman destroying your lousy confederacy!!
Deal with it and go pound sand!!!
By billfrancisco
December 3, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Bottom line. Georgia did not play for the SEC title. They could not lose and could not win. A team that does not win its own conference should not be a national champ.
By Dawgs
December 3, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Georgia should have won against SC and TN then they’d be in the NC on their own UNLESS they really got shafted by the vote. No worries, they’ll make it on their own in the next couple of years without the help of other teams winning, losing or from any coach’s vote. GO DAWGS!!!
By DOG FAN
December 3, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Oklahoma lost the championship game in 2003 and went to the title game.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
The UGA team of Dec. 1, 2007 would’ve beaten the LSU or UT team of Dec. 1, 2007.
You know it’s true, esp. when Ainge’s best receiver was the LSU secondary. UT should’ve won, but choked it away!
By who is KR?
December 3, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
UGA 45-Auburn 20..to answer your ridiculous comment..every team this year has bad games to bring back up..Oklahoma jumping UGA is unbelievable..The big 12 completely sux..kansas is a joke..Missou is a joke..no defense by either one of them..Colorado beating Oklahoma is like stanford beating USC.. Tenn was extremely fortunate to be in the title game and they know it..they should have lost three in a row to close out the season but got lucky on special teams and timely penalties..they have the 11th ranked sec defense..give me a break..and they have 4 losses now..UGA did lose two games but won dominating performances in other big national games…Tenn was blown out 3 times this year..completely blown out of the building 3 times..
By Bob
December 3, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
Truthman,
Funny dude. For whatever Sherman and Grant did to the south the SEC has more than paid back the great Buckeye State.
How does this sound Truthman?
Florida 1-0 vs The Ohio State University; Auburn 1-0 vs the Ohio State University; Tennessee vs the Ohio State University; Georgia 1-0 vs the Ohio State University…that was for Atlanta dude; Alabama 2-0 vs the Ohio State University (and that doesn’t count the Kickoff Classic Game where Bama whupped you guys again) and the Coup de Grace..SOUTH CAROLINA 2-0 vs the Ohio State University. But just to show you we are an equal opportunity plunderer, we now let LSU pay you back. Pretty soon every state in the old Confederacy will have had a chance at payback. You guys really should be silent and only thought of as idiots instead of opening mouth and removing all doubt.
By timmythebrave
December 3, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
I am a huge ga fan and was wanting to go to the national championship. We are the hottest team right now and are playing better than anyone right now. That being said, we didn’t win our conference so I understand not being ranked above LSU. What is up with the BCS bowls. Why do they stay with conferences instead of giving us good match ups. I don’t see any of these games as great match ups! The only team with a legitimate complaint is Missouri. How did they not get picked over Kansas when they beat them head to head 2 weeks ago? Go dawgs and beat some rainbow butt in the sugar bowl
By bamadon
December 3, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
The bcs has more holes in it than swiss cheese. Why don’t they come up with a formula like division 2 prgorams have. Take the top 16 teams and have a play off with the bowl games as the locations!! A wish Georgia had played LSU and won!! But, LSU will beat OSU!!!
By mcdawg
December 3, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
as much as i pull for the SEC in inter-conference games, i just don’t think LSU should be there—perhaps after resting for a month they will look like a #1 team but they don’t appear to be a well-conditioned team-i would put Oklahoma in BCS over LSU-and Ohio State didn’t impress me this year-VT is NOT the #3 team in the country-rationally i don’t think dawgs deserve the title game but the BCS isn’t an objective process-we got the worst draw but regardless its now time to focus on the Sugar bowl and make a statement for ‘08
By TTDS
December 3, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
UGA - It must stand for ungratefull asses. You don’t win your conference but you expect (somehow) to qualify for a championship berth in the BCS. Stop reading Bradly in the AJC. He’s so misguided. I agree with all three polls which have LSU as #2 in all three. UGA is not #1 or #2 or even #3 in any poll so why blame the BCS selections? Better luck next year…
By ToccoaDawg
December 3, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
TRUTHMAN were not Buckeye haters but you know after two years from getting totaly dismanteled by two SEC foes your new name might be blackeyes. By the way Sherman&Grant had eight are nine men to the confedercys one. BUT THATS JUST A YANK. Ya had to go there didnt ya.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
Hey Bob,
I went to UGA. I cheered for UGA in 1992 when we beat OSU.
I just know how nuts the Buckeye’s success drives all the flaggers down here!!
No, the preservation of the Union and the abolition of slavery was/is more important than any football game.
That was THE BIG GAME AND WE WON!!! In fact, when they teach about the Civil War in Ohio, the entire chapter is “WE WON!!!
Oooooo…you just got burned!!!
By Ramblin Wrecker
December 3, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
This may shock some of you UGA fans, but I think you got somewhat of a raw deal. But not because UGA somehow “earned” a spot in the title game, but because no one else did and UGA should have been the logical next team in line. The way I look at it, despite winning the SEC, LSU had two opportunities at #1 and couldn’t handle the pressure, losing both times. Ohio State & Missouri had #1 and couldn’t hold off other teams. Why not let UGA prove themselves? Under the current BCS rules, there is no reason UGA can’t be in the game. Do I think you should have to win your conference (or even division) to be national champ? Yes I do. But until the rules say otherwise, UGA has a legitimate gripe about being passed over. But all that said, UGA should be very pleased with their season. Leaving Knoxville weeks ago, no dawgs fan would have imagined they’d be in the Sugar Bowl at the end of the season. GT on the other hand has lots of work to do, starting with getting an energetic coach in here.
By Laurie
December 3, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
Truthman, you are a moron. Ohio State won their conference, but I bet they couldn’t beat a AAAA high school team out of Georgia. Get real. When you play only Michigan and a Penn State team that is only marginal at best (and not even that good most years), it’s easy to have a cakewalk of a season. Yes, you do get to play for the NC two years in a row, and you will lose two in a row to the SEC. Hope that tastes good. I don’t think I’d be so quick to call the War Between the States to mind to try to insult people; it just shows that you are a barbaric redneck on top of being the aforementioned moron.
By Billy
December 3, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
JP, There are only 2 SEC teams in the top 10 in the BCS standings…The Big 12 is the conference the was jobbed by the “2 team only rule”. For the record are you saying that all SEC bowl eligible teams including a 6-6 South Carolina team that has lost 5 in a row is deserving to go to a bowl game even though they are eligible? Heck they only have 5 Division 1 wins?!?!
By borodawg
December 3, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Some interesting UGA votes: Joe Glenn-10; Hall Mumme-9; Schnellenberger-8; Bob Stoops-8. We get no respect. lol There’s always gonna be controversy; even with a playoff system.
By Confused by the Rankings
December 3, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
I’m still confused as to why GA would be ranked over LSU before the SEC championship game if LSU is the “better” team. Why not put LSU at four and if they lose move them down instead of placing them lower and moving them up with a win?
By Gator Nation
December 3, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
College football is the most exciting sport and has the most exciting season of all the sports that we watch in America!!
And it has the biggest let down of all the sports too!! This year’s end of the season let down is the worst on record. And it is actually eroding my interest in the championship game and the sport overall.
College basketball’s season comes to furious and drama filled end with the conference and NCAA tournaments. You are left wanting more and waiting for next year’s season.
College football has all the build up of the first time you go to bed with a woman and all the let down of it “ending” before the fun has begun.
I am so frustrated by this process!
By AKDawg
December 3, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
As a teacher, I give students grades based on their most recent performance, and not based solely on what they did the first month of school. The leap frogging over Georgia by LSU, Oklahoma, and Virginia Tech is like giving a student an A on his/her report card, and then calling home a week later and saying that the grade is now a B- because, “Oh I changed my mind.” The pollsters screwed up, and the system is flawed. Maybe the BCS should leave the final vote to an independent panel of 5. I think a panel of second-graders would agree that the system isn’t equitable.
By LSU Rocks
December 3, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Doggies, win your conference. Then you won’t have to whine your way in.
By Rob
December 3, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
Please show me the rule that says you have to win your conference to play in the national title game.
I’m waiting.
By Jake
December 3, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
SOUR GRAPES Belotti from the Ducks voted OU 8th, 3 spots behind a MO team that they beat twice during the season. Thanks to the Ol’Ball Coach for giving Stoops some props and voting OU #1.
Bottom line for all the whiners, if you lose at home you should not get a shot. Ovetime or not. Road games are more difficult but still there is no excuse to lose to a 6-6 team when you are supposed to be elite.
Boomer Sooner
By Bob
December 3, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Truthman,
You are a fool and I don’t care if you went to Oxford. You are the numnut that brought up Grant and Sherman. Your Buckeyes are WINLESS against the SEC. Now you can color it anyway you want, but winless is winless. Sieglos if you prefer it in German.
You guys have never beaten us in anything so why should we be jealous? There are certainly positives to be taken from seeing you guys get it handed to you again on January 8.
But I am sure the ole standbys will soon arise. Lets see, we had such a long layoff. Why is that? Well, we don’t like to play in the cold after Thanksgiving. Oh, wait a minute. Don’t we always tell the SEC teams that they are “afraid” to come up north and play us in the “cold”. And if that doesn’t work, guess we can always say it is like an SEC home game because for some reason the Bowls are played in warm weather places. Yeah, Phoenix is real SEC territory.
Ohio State has a great tradition, but don’t tell us we are jealous of your success. We might be when you guys start beating us. Michigan can talk…you guys are winless.
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Laurie,
Gotchya!! Man, I love it when the flaggers get involved!!!
“Fergit, Hell!” “War Between the States.” All old confederate code words for hate and bigotry!
Did you know ALL OF US WERE BLACK 80,000 YEARS AGO AND THAT BLACKS WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE ON EARTH!?!
Go Dawgs!!
By Truthman
December 3, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Do you mean Oxford University in the U.K., or Emory at Oxford out past Covington?
We’ll all know Jan. 7.
By Tville Dawg
December 3, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
I love all the jawing about this team would beat that team. Sadly, you get one shot in college football and you have to live with the results. Perhaps the DAWGS would have avenged the earlier loss against TENN had they faced them in the title game. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. It’s a moot point. Losing to South Carolina put us in an only if situation.
The pollsters rewarded the resurgent DAWGS by voting them into a BCS position. I for one am not a BCS basher. The BCS responds to what happens on the field, and if it has been a wild and wacky year, it is certainly not the fault of the BCS system. Our wins against FLA, AU, and Tech, etc were certainly noticed and rewarded.
In this day of parity amongst teams, could people not accept the fact that there may not be a crystal clear No 1 and No 2 teams. I love the fact that CMR stood up for the team, played the politics, and after the results came in, let go of it.
Let’s focus on Hawaii and the Sugar Bowl. Also, guys, we have nine SEC teams in bowl games. Let’s support the SEC. Even (gulp) the gators.
By DawgFan
December 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Hey Les, we are undefeated in the 1st quarter MORON! Georgia should be playing the the NC because that is how the ratings have always worked. Well until this weeks sham. I have never witnessed anyone jumping that many teams without anyone losing. This is a media game hyped by ESPN and others like Tony Barnyard. Tony you should be ashamed of yourself. You are a proclaimed Georgia man but you go so far to be objective that you don’t support Ga in any way. Your columns are a joke and how do you dare call yourself Mr. College Football. You are as big a joke as the BCS process is. CMR is right, this whole thing was nothing more than a beauty contest, had absolutely nothing to do with football and achievements made on the field. LSU should be in Orlando based on the number times they have blown their chances. John Parker Wilson should be running for Gov. of Lousiana for the gift he gave Les’s losers.
By TF
December 3, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
The Big Ten, Pac 10, and Big East have an advantage. With no conference championship game they sit idle, don’t loose and maintain their position or as the case of OH State move up. If teams are measured under the same criteria for BCS consideration then level the “playing field”.
By Bob
December 3, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Truthman,
No, the final seconds will tick off around 00:01 in New Orleans. But you are right in once case, it will be over long before that.
Good luck.
By timmythebrave
December 3, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
To me the national championship is always a joke. It should not even be called a national championship. The official title should “The opinion championship”. Or the ESPN championship since they have so much influence over it. If it’s all about the number of losses than Hawaii should be playing Ohio St or Kansas for the NC. If it’s about how you are playing lately than UGA and OK should be #1, 2. Ohio St and LSU have only won 1 game in a row. The people that argue that the regular season is the playoff than both the #1 and #2 should be out since they lost 2 weeks ago. Start a playoff now
By stephenw
December 3, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
The individual coaches poll is good to know, but I would like to see the previous week’s voting, and compare their UGA vote this week and last. I imagine it would be in sharp contrast. It seems to me that the voters thought UGA was the 4th best team, but only if they were not in the running for the NC. I understand the Conf. champion argument, but the voters knew that last week when they voted UGA ahead of LSU, OU, and VT.
By Kirk
December 3, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Interesting, Ohio State (1-0), USC (1-0), ASU (0-1), Kansas (0-1) and Hawaii (1-0) played only one team each that made the final season ending rankings. On the other end of the spectrum, LSU played five teams that made the final poll with a record of 4-1. The lone loss being a 3OT game to Arkansas. The next two teams would be Virginia Tech (2-2) and Missouri (2-2) which played four teams that made the final regular season poll. Va Tech was annihilated by LSU early in the season. Looks like the LSU Tigers are the most battle prepared team. OSU better bring their A game to the BCS to make it close. The Tigers close out the season with a 28-14 victory in New Orleans.
By It's my opinion!
December 3, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
I believe that UGA shouuld’ve been no less than #3. Based on the fact that LSU lost twice since the Bulldogs lost to UT. Have anyone noticed the disrespect the BCS have showned to VT. VT should be playing OSU. UGA beat the HEll out of Hawaii and then schedule Wyoming next year!
By Kona
December 3, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Hawaii got robbed and are being bashed for a perfect season. I hope they crush UGA. GO WARRIORS!!
Kona Tempe, AZ
By paul
December 3, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
i dont understand why everybody is crying about georgia didnt win the sec championship but it was not a problem when neb,ou, and tenn did the same thing and to prove that this is a joke why usc did not move up when everybody said that uga and usc is the best two teams in the nation right now its about money lsu is vegas team from earlier this year and they made sure there team is in the game
By GOVOLS98
December 3, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Common phrases from UGA fans: Would have, could have, if, and but.
By The Willster
December 3, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
The fact remains that we need a playoff in DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL. This is another reason why. UGA didnt really get snubbed, I know some people think so, but I dont, and this is coming from a UGA fan myself. I do believe LSU deserves to be in the title game, but Ohio State does not. The Buckeyes didnt play anybody this year, other than perhaps Illinois, who beat them on their home field. Michigan-NAH, they werent even ranked when OSU played them. So I hope this opens some eyes as to why we need a playoff, especially after this debacle of a rankings system.
By G8TR
December 3, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
To everyone who keeps bringing up that NEB and OKLA in years’ past went to the BCS w/o being conference champs, you’ve forgotten that the BSC corrected the system after those years to put more weight (2/3) on human polls so that the computers would not cause this illogic to happen again. It’s not a rule, like your incessantly ridiculous coach tries to claim, it’s logic… You all haven’t had enough of a whiff of a national title since the early 1980s to have followed this, of course. To compare your “suffering” this year to 2004 Auburn, which went undefeated wire-to-wire that year (including winning the SECCG), is patently ridiculous. Obviously, the nation did not hear your coach’s whining (or, more truthfully, his argument was groundless) and the polls show it. Why not support your conference, which makes your case for you when the merits are there? All the other SEC teams are not so juvenile — they pull for our conference champ to go all the way. This is one of the things that separates us from the Big 10, etc. Your ranting is embarrassing and will come back to haunt you when a “hot team” is on your tail if ever UGA is our conference champ again….What a bunch of short-sighted wanna-be’s with a coach to match.
By dwill
December 3, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
Remember how they voted and make sure you run it up on them every chance you get. 50-0 in the third quarter, 4th down, 1 yard, your own territory. GO FOR IT !!!!!!!
By MAC
December 3, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Maybe I missed something but every coach that thought his team should be in the title game voted his team #1, except one…GA. What does that say? Even the coach doesn’t think they are the best so why do the fans keep whining about? Stand up for your team and vote them #1 if you believe it. Nice guys finish last.
By ALL of this is a Big Joke
December 3, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Anarchy reigns here. The polls, the BCS, a big sham. Until playoffs this will remain a disgrace to college football and sports as a whole.
By jj
December 3, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
What I’m reading here, most UGA fans have no respect for their own conference. Your conference set the rules for advancement, and your teams all agreed. Now you don’t like it. Will you say the same thing next year if YOU win the SEC title? NO. Thats called hypocrisy.
As for Ohio State - They played their schedule according to their conference rules and they came in 1st. It is what it is. If you want to complain about them not playing a championship game, talk to your own powers that be, as they think it is more important to get the money from the ATL game. The SEC made that choice - live with it or have it changed, but quit whining.
And GA was not playing the best football in the nation as many here have claimed. Good record - yes, best football - no. Good football would have destroyed GT, but lady luck helped win that game. So be thankful with what you have, and take care of business next year instead of whining.
By mrj
December 3, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
OSU had a down year in scheduling this year. The schedules are completed way in advance (years) of the season. How could OSU have known how bad Washington was going to be this season? I guarantee that they ar emuch better next season. Forget that OSU played home-n-home with Texas Longhorns the last two years? Next year they start a home-n-home with Southern Cal 2008-9, then Miami Hurricanes 2010-11, Cal Bears 2012-13, VT 2014-5, then Oklahoma 2016-7. Who else schedules these HUGE matchups early in the season? OSU has done all that they needed to in a mixed up season from every Conference and deserve their shot and this spot in the BCS game.
By UGA 78
December 3, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
G8TR:
42-30 is just eating you up, isn’t it?!
By Larry
December 3, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Bob, you almost make some excellent points, but your facts are not correct. OSU is 1-0-1 vs LSU (home and home in 87-88). Les Miles might say that LSU is undefeated vs Ohio State in regulation outside of Columbus.
By ToccoaDawg
December 3, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
LOL {dwill}I here ya. We will not forget. And to them a good reminder
By Tim M
December 3, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
I would love to see how these coaches voted last week compared to this week. The only team that played better than they have up to this point was Oklahoma. Virginia Tech might have shown that they were a little bit better than they have been playing.
LSU surely didn’t impress me with any vast improvement in the way they played in the SEC Game versus how they played the last month of the season. I think it is a joke for people to move them up 4 or 5 spots on their ballot based on the way they played their game this week. They were very fortunate to beat Tennessee, who were very fortunate to win agains Vandy and Kentucky the last two weeks of the regular season.
By pfffft
December 3, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
87dawg; they didnt win the division. they had same record as tenn, but got whalloped head to head, losing the tie breaker. thats why tenn was playing and uga was at home watching and working on excuses. and people, please quit complaining some conf having a champ game, and some not. your commishioner made it happen, not the bcs folks. seemed like a good idea then, but how many #1/#2 teams have had it bite them in the end? i hate osu but they are the only 1 loss team. and like hawaii or not they are undefeated and tried to get the majors to sched them. as bad as it seems, remember it could be worse, you could be a ND fan.
By Bob
December 3, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Larry,
I think we were talking about bowl games my friend. You will note that I did not include the 4 games the Bucks played against UK and Vandy in the Regular Season before the 50s. I did not say that Bama was 3-0, I said they were 2-0. In bowl games, which I think is what is to occur on January 7-8, OSU is 0-8 against the SEC.
Now, that does not mean a thing as far as this year goes. I know that. I was responding to one of your fellow Buckeye fans who for some reason decided to bring up 1) the Civil War and 2) the “supposed” jealousy SEC fans have for Ohio State.
Look, I have high regards for the Buckeyes. They have a storied history and deserve kudos. But as it started again last night on ESPN, we do not need to hear again how the Buckeyes are going to smack LSU around. You would think that we had heard that enough last year. Let em play and then we will see. For 53 days minus 2 weeks all we heard was how Florida did not deserve to be in the game and how OSU and Michigan were the greatest teams in history.
As I said, let em play and we will see.
By DawgFan
December 3, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Kirk, it should be really obvious that how many teams LSU played that are in the final rankings is useless. Useless because the rankings are a sham. Just media types picking who they want to cover and for what. ESPN felt guilty about the Jerk Herbavore comment so they made up for it by pushing LSU for their 3rd try at being No. 1 for this year. Most schools don’t get that many chance in a decade. Their really is no championship game this season.
By G8TR
December 3, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
Actually, it’s those three measly UGA wins over UF since 1990 and no UGA NCs since 1980 (to our two) that keeps us smiling.
By Dawgincartersville
December 3, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
Dawgs should be in the champ game and everyone knows it. We lost to the gamecocks, but that was early in the season so it doesn’t count. We lost to tenn but we really hadn’t found our best running back yet. So, at worst we only had one loss. The Dawgs tradetion alone should have gotten them in the championshep game. LSU has not football tradetion like UGA - we have 7 national championships and should have been allowed to win number 8. Go Dawgs!
By DawgFan
December 3, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
JJ, what an idiot. Lady Luck did not catch those touchdown passes or make 40 yard touchdown runs agains tech. Lady Luck did smile on tech with some fumbled punts that we had not done all year. But your humble bumbles were to slow and pathetic to fall on them. Lady Luck played a roll in that game but she favored tech and not Georgia. Funny how perception really does play a factor in judgement. Go Dawgs! The real 2007 National Champions. Oh and what SEC rules are you referring to? There is no rule that have ever limited SEC sc