Mr. College Football

By Roswell Ed

November 27, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

The Rose Bowl wants to make sure that they have a team the Pac 10 can beat every year.

That’s why they like that tradition of getting a member of the league that can’t count.

Wouldn’t it be funny if the Zooker were to beat UF?

By treyinathens

November 27, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Tony,

what are the chances Georgia drops to fifth in the bcs standings based on what happens to VT, LSU, USC, and Oklahoma?

By who cares

November 27, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

I need a loan to buy tickets to the SEC Championship and Rose Bowl to watch my dawgs…on darn one out two isn’t bad..or is zero for two..way to burst my bubble…

By Bob

November 27, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Tony,

Your Orange Bowl scenario has scared me all week. I really think the Dawgs will drop one or two spots after the Championship games if LSU and VA Tech win. If OSU goes to Pasadena, the Orange gets first choice and legally they could take the Gators. I would hope the fallout nationally and from the SEC would be enough to stop this from happening. Georgia will be ranked higher, will have a better record and will have beaten the Gators by 2 TDs.

By noyellowinthisblood

November 27, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

If the Rose chooses the Illini over a 10-2 UGA squad that would be a travesty. The powers that be would be foolish to do so. The ratings of a UGA-USC game would be much higher.

By baloney

November 27, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

An even more important question is, IF by chance Tennessee beats LSU does that mean that UGA shares the overall conference championship? They currently claim they share the east title with Tenn.That would mean that UGA could hang a banner, get a ring,plus it would help recruiting if they can tell a kid they won the SEC championship.

By Matt

November 27, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

You’re absolutely right, Tony. The Rose Bowl WILL take Illinois over Georgia because of the tradition factor, plus Illinois hasn’t been there in 20 years. That’s scary about the Orange Bowl scenario if LSU and VT hop over UGA in the BCS rankings, which is definitely possible — Citrus Bowl, here we come!!

By Bob

November 27, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Noyellow,

I agree it would be a travesty, but there will be enormous pressure from Jim Delaney, the Big Ten Commish to force the Rose Bowl to bring the Illini. We cannot expect logic to prevail here. I am sure that there will be some committee members who want the Dawgs. I also suspect Pete Carroll and USC would really prefer Georgia…say what you want about USC, but they don’t shy away from playing anyone. Still, my gut tells me the old Big Ten- PAC Ten tradition will eventually prevail.

Then my concern is that the Orange Bowl will be enamored by the probable Heisman Trophy winner and pick the Gators…even though UGA would be ranked higher, would have won more games and would have beaten them. If Mizzou loses UGA could move up a slot, but I also think LSU would jump us with a win Saturday. And I can see that as they would be SEC Champs and have a better record. We need to hold on to 4th place to lock in the BCS.

By Matt

November 27, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

I think if Mark Richt wears a 2007 SEC champions ring to a kid’s house, he’s going to have some serious credibility issues — how is UGA the SEC champ if UT wins???

By REGGIE BALL

November 27, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

I think it is all irrelevant. Mizzou is going to lose to OU. This means that we will either move up to 3rd or stay at fourth if another team jumps us. It is possible that LSU or VT might jump us. However, I believe that lsu loses to tn, so with mizzou losing that would still keep us 4th.

I expect the rose.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Matt,

Baloney is just that. He is appropriately named.

By baloney

November 27, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Yea, but Matt it has been all over the radio, internet and print that UGA shares the east crown. If that is true then IF UT were to beat LSU then logic would be that UGA shares the overall crown without even playing the championship game. I guess it is share and share alike. Agree?

By WILL

November 27, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

This BCS/Bowl fiasco is such a bunch of s@%$!!! It’s totally controlled by corporate America, just like our weasel politicians in Washington.

By Doug

November 27, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

All right, this UGA alum would like to derail this train of thought right here. We don’t “share” the SEC East crown with anybody. We got beat fair and square by Tennessee, thus they hold exclusive rights to the East Division title, and if they beat LSU this weekend the conference trophy is theirs and theirs alone. If we start claiming a “share” of either the division OR the conference title, then we’re no better than the twerps from Tech who still claim a “share” of the 1998 ACC title — even though Florida State, the team they supposedly “share” it with, beat them like a drum that year.

This season has been successful enough that we shouldn’t need to go scrounging for hastily concocted “titles” that we didn’t earn. Of course, if political considerations succeed in hosing us out of a BCS bid, I’ll be madder than a postal worker.

By mcdawg

November 27, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

LSU will pass us in the BCS standings if they beat UT-i’m still thinking Fiesta with Hawaii-not ideal but with 2 losses can’t control what you don’t control

By Atlanta Gator

November 27, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Roswell Ed——It would be the supreme ironic moment if the Zookster’s Illini were to beat the Gators in the Capital One Bowl, but not for the delicious revenge angle that you suggest. No, it would be supremely ironic because CRZ couldn’t do better in Gainesville with talent that was far superior and more experienced than what he now has in Champaign-Urbana. Oh, yes, the football gods would be laughing, but upsets of better teams do happen; Q.E.D., I give you the entire 2007 Division I football season. Frankly, at this point, I would think the football gods’ sides would be hurting from laughing so heartily already.

By joe

November 27, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

I agree with Baloney’s train of thought…just like if I was driving his car, I would be the owner of it…Is that what you learned at UGA?? Great curriculum there dumbarse…

By Big Ed

November 27, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Part of the problem for Georgia going to the Rose Bowl is that it does not travel outside of the the SEC to play anybody. The past administration thought it could live off of a national championship now generations beyond memory. Other than the SEC the rest of the country doesn’t know much about UGA. If you want national exposure you must play a schedule that includes more risk for reward.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Doug, Amen!!

By noyellowinthisblood

November 27, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Doug, I’m with on those statements. We lost to UT. We still had a great year and deserve a BCS bid.

By JCubby

November 27, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Please stop responding to Baloney’s comments. He is not a UGA fan or grad. Quite the contrary. He is being sarcastic. Trying to paint the UGA fandom with his brush of illogical ignorance. It’s what you do when your own team smells of dead fish.

By DecaturDog

November 27, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Big Ed:

To say that the rest of the country doesn’t know much about UGA is just not correct. Do we here not know anything about USC, Mizzou, OK, Texas, etc…? I won’t go into the explanation of schedule making, how many years out they are planned, etc. etc…..

There was an article recently in some publication…SI, or Forbes…Georgia was the second team in the country to generate revenue via TV, ads, endorsements, sales of logo items, etc. I think the Rose Bowl advertisers want a piece of that, and the Committee, while traditional to a fault, cannot in good conscience NOT take the #4 team for the #14 team…money talks.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Decatur Dog,

Actually UGA finished second to Notre Dame and Texas in that Forbes article. Also last year UGA was #2 in sportswear sold throughout the nation behind Texas.

I think the Rose Bowl will feel pressured to take the Illini. I don’t particularly like that, but they really don’t care what I like. What would really concern me is the Orange Bowl Shennanigans. That would really be a joke and if it is under consideration, Mike Slive needs to speak to those folks.

By baloney

November 27, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Marketing $$$ generated is in direct portion of championships won. Ie: UGA won 2 SEC titles thus they are/were the “hot” item. USC,Texas, Tenn. (womens basketball, and even football after 1998) were all regarded as the top sellers of NCAA official products. No big news here.

By GTVegas

November 27, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Take it from someone who actually lives out west, UGA is not well known, or at least cared about. My wife went to UGA and I went to Tech, but unlike many Tech Alum, I cheer for UGA with the exception of one game. I do not try and bias my kids towards either school, except to say that if they want to be an engineer (which I am not), Tech is a good school.

You must also define “well-known”. Yes, everyone out here knows of UGA, and Tech for that matter, but they are not the focus of any real substantive quantity of discussion. In Las Vegas, Tech is actually seen more on License plates, etc. and is actually more talked about because of basketball (UNLV and NV-Reno are BBall schools).

The Big 10, PAC and WAC get all of that discussion, believe it or not.

It is also fair to say that football is nowhere near as big as it is in the southeast or midwest. Sure, there are some avid fans, but it is not even close with respect to the amount of focus that is applied to it in the SE.

All of that Sales garbage is just that, garbage. Look outside any region and those numbers fall off dramatically, almost to the point on nonexistence.

As far as travelling fans, it does not get much better than the Big 10. Just go to to some of the NCAA tournament games or Big 10 away games to get a feel for that. I have never seen so many Wisconsin fans in one place, OMG.

This is not a knock against UGA. I am sure the Rose bowl would be a sellout in either case, but tradition means alot more to the generation that controls the committee and don’t underestimate the amount of pressure that the Big 10 can apply.

People need to understand that the Bowl scenarios are driven by Money, Money, Money and then tradition, match-up, etc. They are not driven by rankings alone, unless that sways the $$’s. The Rose Bowl has perhaps the most tradition of any bowl and maybe even some of the most exposure, historically speaking. How many of those of us in the 40 and over category remember watching the parade as kids on TV? I know I do, and I grew up in Stone Mountain.

I would personally like to see UGA in the Rose as I think I would take my wife to that game as her Xmas present. It sure is closer to Las Vegas than anything in Florida.

…..AND I AM NOT GOING TO BOISE…unless I can figure out a way to get some skiing in. :-) There’s an idea, maybe I will go.

Good Luck to UGA wherever it ends up. A wise CEO once told me, “don’t worry about anything out of your control….or for that matter, anything totally under your control.”

UGA, team and fans, just need to go wherever they can and play the best they can and represent the school the best they can. Everything else will take care of itself.

By Titothebear

November 27, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Roswell Ed (aka Mr. Ed),

Do some research, OK? Lately, the Pac 10 (namely USC, who can beat ANYONE on any given week) has beaten the Big Ten (namely Michigan, who traditionally struggles against USC) in the Rose Bowl, but Wisconsin has owned the Pac 10 in the Rose Bowl, and even Ohio State has done well, too. Plus, it’s called TRADITION…Pac 10 vs. Big Ten in the Rose Bowl has been going on for decades, just like SEC in the Sugar Bowl.

Funny, you like to pick at the Big Ten but, funny, during the past 5 bowl seasons, the Big Ten is 8-5 vs. the mighty SEC. BTW, how did that butt-whipping at the hands of Wisconsin taste 2 short years ago?! 24-10!

By Bob

November 27, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

GTVegas, Great post. Logical even if it not what some of us want to hear. I would love to go to Pasadena, but if it doesn’t happen so be it. If we go that is great, but we should be headed to a BCS Bowl.

By MB

November 27, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Wake up call mutts….you are not a national draw!! Basically you are praying the SEC pressures a bowl into taking you….congrats!

By Bob

November 27, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Titothebear,

Where do you come up with those bogus bowl stats? Can you count? The SEC and Big Ten are 7-7 over the last 5 Bowl Seasons. Capital One SEC 3-2; Outback SEC 2-3; Music City 1-2; BCS 1-0

Over the last 6 bowl seasons 9-8. Capital One 3-3; Outback 3-3; Music City 1-2; Sugar 1-0; BCS 1-0

Yeah, you beat Auburn by 2 TDs in that game. You forget about the one two years earlier when you also lost by 2 TDs to the Tigers? You still haven’t figured out how to beat Georgia either.

By Dawg Fud

November 27, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Titothebear

I refer to last year’s national championship game when the Big 10 team had the Heisman Trophy winner quarterbacking their team.

Best player on the best team (supposedly) got waxed by the Gators.

My point is that we can twist these stats to argue our position. I think it is very clear that the SEC is a far superior conference in terms of competitiveness, talent and team speed. But hey, I am biased.

A lot of SEC people feel that Big 10 teams only have to win 2 or 3 games a year to garner a national championship birth.

PS - I do not recall the last time Goergia lost to a Big 10 team.

PSS - Isn’t it time to be known as the Big 11? Or add another team and settle it with a conference championship game?

By Bob

November 27, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Dawgfud,

UGA is 7-1 vs Big Ten. Lost to Michigan in Ann Arbor in 50s. Beat Michigan in Ann Arbor in 65. Have won all 6 bowl games against the Big Ten (Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin twice, Purdue twice).

By m

November 27, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

It will be funny to watch VT get revenge over ugag in the Orange Bowl. Ugag came from behind and fluked VT last year….but ugag is going down this year. Mark it down. In fact, the entire SEC is going to be exposed in the bowl games

By Orlando Rivera

November 27, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

I do see UGA ending up at 5 when it’s all said and done. It will go like this after Saturday:

1) West Virginia 2) OSU 3) LSU (SEC Champ) 4) Virginia Tech (ACC Champ) 5) UGA

The Pac 10 will select USC & Illinois for that traditional matchup. I really could see Florida leapfrog Georgia and the Dogs relegated to the Citrus Bowl or (worse the Outback Bowl) as a victims of a screwjob.

By ActuaryDawg

November 27, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

I wonder to what degree these bowl committee leaks are trial balloons. In other words the Rose Bowl committee lets it leak that some on the committee are leaning toward a lower ranked Illinois. The can sit back and watch the reaction before pulling the trigger on the decision. Ditto for the Orange Bowl and Florida.

By A bunch of sh1t

November 27, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

All this talk is such bullsh1t. Can we get a playoff already and end this garbage? The NC winner today is the winner of whoever was PICKED to be the NC Game, not the winner of a playoff. This is illogical, unreasonable, irrational. ridiculous BULLSH1T. I don’t thin it’s cool to spend so much time all season talking about who deserves to go to what bowl. Slive is an a*******hole.

By DirtyDawg

November 27, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Face it these bowl games are like elections - doesn’t matter who’s the better team (candidate) it’s who can manipulate the vote. Remember the time the Outback Bowl picked KY over a higher-ranked UGA (that had beaten KY by the way), and why? Because the Pres of the faux-Aussie eatery had matriculated at UK.

If the Orange wants UF, nothing we can do about it - it’s in Florida for God’s sake…if the Rose wants a second (or third) tier Big Ten(or whatever) Illinois, still nothing we can do about it - hell, they’ll sell it out anyway, regardless, and they don’t care about TV ratings, they’re the Granddaddy, remember?…and if Les Miles doesn’t like the position he’s in, he shouldn’t have made so many stupid coaching decisions with arguably the finest talent in the country (that’s also the reason UM won’t be offering him their job…they know he’s stupid, and stupid is as stupid does) - plus he ain’t beat Tennessee yet.

We’ll go someplace fun and beat whoever they put in against us. So what’s the big deal?

By gaDawg

November 27, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Has anyone noticed how Les is now taking his arguement to the press just like whinning Urban did last year? Hey Les, to quote a well known sportscaster, “let’s get the picture”, you have not won the SEC title yet. And, you would not be in this situation if your team had not choked twice in overtime to Kentucky and Arkansas. The 30th and 18th ranked teams respectfully. You’re right, you did not lose during regulation but were tied. That’s like kissing your sister. Wes, your defense wants no part of UGA’s offense right now. So I will pull for LSU because I hate Orange T’s. But are you better than UGA? Let’s line it up one Saturday and find out. The winner then takes the highest spot in the polls.

By Ed

November 27, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Richt doesn’t need to manufacture phony SEC championships to impress recruits. His ‘02 and ‘05 championships and anticipated ‘07 BCS Bowl invite should suffice. Winning between 10-13 games in all but one year since ‘02 doesn’t hurt, either.

As far as the bowls are concerned - Rose, Fiesta, Orange…who cares? Any of them would be sweet. I personally would prefer not to see a UGA-VT rematch in the Orange, but maybe Boston College will make that a non-issue. Then the Dawgs can try to even the score from ‘01.

By DirtyDawg

November 27, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Hey ‘m’…I don’t want to hear from any ‘Goobler/Hokie’ about nothin’. Remember, you’re the guys that gave the world, and us, that wonderful human being Michael Vick.

By Mikey

November 27, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

If we wanted more control of where we would end up we should have beat SOS and / or UT. Let’s just enjoy whatever the football gods bring our way- GO DAWGS !!!

By noyellowinthisblood

November 27, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

m is a douchebag. The Big 10 is a joke and you are an idiot.

By Roswell Ed

November 27, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Titothebear:

Isn’t the league that can’t count 0-4 in its last 4 Rose Bowls and hasn’t the Pac 10 won 3 of those?

By Leroy

November 27, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Baloney told me to “squeal like a pig”.

By David Lee

November 27, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Sounds like the blue bloods that run Savannah. Can’t change their ways. But the reality is that the Dawgs have an older tradition going out to California to play in the 1930s.

By Gary

November 27, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

C’mon guys, this is the 21st century. College games are on national TV including all but 2 of Georgia’s games. Of course they have a national following. It may not be up there with Notre Dame but I wouldn’t want to trade programs with them right now. Just like everyone in the country paid attention when West Virginia came to prominence the last couple of years, college fans know what schools have the hot programs and want to see them on TV and in good bowl games. Georgia is one of the few schools outside of the Big 10 or Pac 10 to win the Rose Bowl.. How ‘bout that for those worried about tradition. Richt is one of the hottest young coaches right now. Stafford and Mareno are budding stars. With the buzz from the great wins over Florida, Auburn and Kentucky I think college football fans from all over the country would be excited to see a Southern Cal vs Georgia matchup. It will be one dynasty passing the torch to the next! Go Dawgs!

By HGinEvanston

November 27, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

How is it that we should expect UGa to drop in next week’s polls if LSU and/or VT win their games, while Ohio State would remain ahead of all three of those teams? Remember, the Buckeyes haven’t played since their win over Michigan. I’m thinkng that their ranking should fall a notch or two as other teams continue playing and winning. Am I wrong?

By Reggie Ball Baller

November 27, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Lost in this discussion is where Georgia Tech is going to go…any idea NERD fans?

By ringgolddawg

November 27, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

After it is all said and done. Nobody remembers who played in the bigger bowls two years later. It’s all about championships/banners. Hope and pray Pittsburgh can pull the upset and Oklahoma wins over Mizzuo. UGA has been pretty lucky thus far. Maybe our luck will hold out and face a OSU team in New Orleans.

By baloney

November 27, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

UGA may drop on the basis they did not play in a championship game. The pollsters will look at that as if they were not good enough to be there. It will also give the teams that are playing a chance to accumulate “style” points. So don’t be surprised to see LSU leapfrog UGA.

By Villa Rica DAWG

November 27, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

I am with Doug… Great year, WVU ain’t gonna loose to Pitt, Missouri will loose to OK, it will be WVU and Ohio State in the NC, whereby WVU will dismantle Ohio State. Truthfully, if that plays out, WVU as NCs is good enough for me. I still think that UGA and USC (or LSU for that matter) are better teams right now. However, as someone pointed out yesterday, one of the things that makes college football so exciting is that EVERY TEAM must “show up” EVERY GAME. That has to happen ALL YEAR, from day 1 to day none.

As much as it hurt seeing it unfold against S. Car & UT, it hurts worse now. However, it is what it is, we didn’t show up against UT and we fell apart against S. Car.

It breaks my heart to admit it, but we are lucky to be even considered a slight possibility for the NC game or the Rose Bowl. We should be thankful for whatever way it turns out.

That said, I still believe that the DAWGS are the hottest team in football and have been since the 4th quarter of the Vandy game (thanks Knowshon). We are the best team playing right now and it will reep benefits going into next year (just think, in 12 months, we will be preparing for a decisive win in the SEC Championship and the same in the NC game).

Good enough for this DAWG!!

By GT

November 27, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Watching the football polls will kind of reflex what is wrong with the rest of the country. If we had a tournament or playoff it would be very difficult to ignore the truth that Georgia is one of the top two teams in the country, but politics with an eye towards the cash registrar does not benefit from that truth. We create a paper tiger in Ohio State to keep populated areas interested in the sport and keep money pouring in irregardless of reality. If someone in the Rose Bowl plays Georgia the results will be the same as Florida playing OSU or Michigan getting their eyes dotted last year. Your Volkswagen makes your house look larger, why bring in the Cadillac?

By TybeeDawg

November 27, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Doug, you are wrong. We DO share the SEC east! By virtue of a tiebreaker TN plays for the SEC crown. Check your SEC manual. You can argue all you want against your alma mater but the FACT is UGA shares the SEC east title.

By B. Thenet

November 27, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

I do find it interesting how many SEC fans get so offended about being even with the Big Ten.

Both have only 1 team not bowl eligible this year, which is a very impressive feat.

Every year they play very tight bowl games against each other, with the record being about even between them.

And when it comes to talent, the SEC has around 10-15 more players in the NFL than the Big Ten..and that is with one more team. About even there as well.

I think Michigan is likely headed to the Alamo Bowl(probably vs. Texas or TT), perhaps the Outback if Mizzou or WV lose.

By Southern Football Fan

November 27, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

To Tech:

Anyone out there old enough to remember how the Falcons fired Leman Bennett because they wanted to take the Falcons to the next level? The next level was to win half as many games each year for the next 20 years.

In truth Tech’s football rcord since Bobbie Dodd retired in 1966 is 243-221-8 for a 51% winning percentage. That is an average of 6 wins per season over 41 years. A lot of those wins came over patsies like the Dukes, UNC’s, and Division II teams of the world.

Chan Gailey’s winning percentage with a 44-32 record was 58%. He averaged 7.3 wins per season, which is above the Tech average. Chan also lost 5 straight to UGA.

As comparison: Bobbie Dodd’s record was 165-64-8 or 70% over 22 years. That is 7.5 wins per season - which is .2 wins per season better than Chan Gailey. Not much difference, huh? Bobbie also lost 7 of his last 8 games to UGA.

Yeah I know that Tech plays 2 more games a year now than when Bobbie coached. But I also think there are going to be a lot of Tech fans that regret running Chan off, when he was willing to stay here and work to build the program, rather than use it as a stepping stone to something better.

Atlanta was a smaller and safer city when Dodd was here. What quality coach is going to want to live close in to Atlanta with the crime and homelessness problem? What quality coach is going to want to commute considering Atlanta morning and afternoon traffic?

Maybe not even 1 (at least for long) with jobs in safer smaller college towns with university amenities and easy drives to nice homes with plenty of land to raise families.

That plus the unrealistic expectations of Tech alumni are going to lead to a lot more turmoil at Tech. I think Tech made a foolish choice to run off Chan and as a result will continue to suffer.

We will see, because it is too late now.

By G8TR

November 27, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Doug and others, for proving that there are (at least a few) rational Dawgs in this world. This bit of lunacy about UGA sharing the SEC East division title actually started when your head coach said something about being proud of becoming “Co-Champs” of the East. (This was three games ago, while your program first began awaiting the opportunity to back into the title outright in the hopes that UT lost…and, of course, this myth of the “Co-Champ” was bolstered by the AJC reporting it that way.) How legit programs handle this situation is as a historical footnote, i.e. when UF/UT/UGA finished tied a few years ago, and UGA went to the SEC Championship due only to a higher BCS ranking, UF officially lists that year’s SEC results only as “tied for 1st” with an asterisk beside it. There was never any audacity to call ourselves an SEC “co-champion” for that year. And I notice that the Dawgs/CMR never, ever refers to that as the year they shared the title, either. I assume someone corrected CMR on this since his initial, idiotic mention of being a “co-champ” a few weeks ago….

By DawginLex

November 27, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

This just in:

Rick Neuheisel clamoring for the Ga Tech job. This would be better than Chandler Gailey. They still won’t win and they would get caught for the cheating this time around.

Think the equivalent of Jim Harrick-in football…………

Film at 11

By YellowIsTheColorOfP**S

November 27, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Will someone explain why everyone thinks that LSU and VT will jump over UGA if they win this weekend? Are they playing a team ranked above UGA? No. At anytime this season, has a ranked team beat a lower ranked team and jumped ahead of another ranked team? I don’t think so. UGA will be 3rd or 4th in the final BCS standings next week, no matter what LSU & VT do. If Ohio St gets into the NC game, the Rose Bowl WILL pick UGA. Why? Because the winner of a UGA-USC matchup, would easily be next years pre-season #1. Nationally. the SEC and the PAC-10 are the top 2 conferences, while the Big 10 is #4 at best. However, if OK wins, then who knows what will happen.

By ZutaDawg

November 27, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

I posted this yesterday on another blog but still rings true:

Georgia won’t play in the Rose Bowl, the pundits out west don’t want to play an SEC team because they know the result. The last time an SEC team played in the Rose bowl was Alabama in 1946. From 1926 to 1946 an SEC team played there 10 times. Take out Tenn.’s 2 losses and SEC teams won 6 of the other 8 games, including GA. Tech once, Georgia once, and the Tide 4 times. (Yes, Tech used to be in the SEC)It must have been after the Tide thumped USC for the 4th time by a score of 34-14 they decided to go to a PAC 10/ Big 10 schedule. I remember another time in the 25 years since I graduated from UGA we had a hope of going to the Rose Bowl and that didn’t pan out either. The sportcasters had said LSU didn’t want any part of UGA and they are right, USC doesn’t want any part of UGA either and the Rose Bowl Committee will protect USC’s house of cards like they have for the past 61 years. Don’t believe, check out (http://www.tournamentofroses.com/history/gamescores.asp)

By gdawginkalamazoo

November 27, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

ActuaryDawg, very astute observation. You know that is the reason they start with all this speculation. Then the weekend comes and everything is screwed up. As Tony mentioned “political fallout” wouldn’t be an understatement if the Orange chose UF over UGA. They can’t be that stupid can they. If it works out I would hope that Pete Carroll would lobby for UGA in the Rose. It does him no good for next year by playing the third ranked Big Ten team. Here I am and I thought I was done sweating the season after the Tech victory.

By quaildawg

November 27, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

That’s allright Orange Bowl (if as Tony suggests might have, and still could, happen(ed)) Take the Gators and Heisman voters…give it to Tebow!!! Just all the more fodder for the Dawgs to head to Jax next year with an even larger dose of ATTITUDE!!! Richt won’t have to call for a celebration penalty to get this bunch of Dawgs lathered up!!! And Spurrier thought he lived a nightmare when he won the Heisman and UGA came calling!!! If the Dawgs get the BCS BS then there will be no need for black jersies or any motivational tactics for the season just a large chip that the Dawgs will carry into and through the 08’ season. GATA!!!!!!!!!!

By YellowIsTheColorOfP**S

November 27, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

The BCS bowls also look at how a team finished the season. LSU struggled winning several close games, losing the final regular season game and winning (?) the SEC Championship. UGA finished the season by winning 6 straight games against bowl eligible teams (5 wins were by double digits).

By Alpha Dog

November 27, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

G8TR, FYI, SEC Results

Is the SEC wrong? it clearly states UGA is Eastern Division Co-Champions.

So I guess you are smarter than the entire SEC.

By Mike

November 27, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

It would be a shame if the Rose Bowl sticks their head in the sand and takes a far lesser-ranked team. I’m all for tradition, but the Rose Bowl Committee needs to understand that the best football in the country is not being played in the PAC-10 or the Big-10 right now. A UGA-USC match-up would be the highest rated game of all the bowls. Two teams and two conferences that seldom see each other, and each team at the top of their game at the end of the year. How can the “Grand-Daddy of Them All” otherwise select such low-ranked teams and still call themselves “The Best”?

By BJOHNDAwg

November 27, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

You know what would be fun?Lets say LSU beats Tenn.(which may very well not happen).But lets say it does.Lets put Georgia in the Sugar Bowl against LSU.

Since all these b*** on this board talk about “Georgia does not travel well.”“Georgia is not nationally known.”(Both of those comments are pure BS by the way).Lets just stay in New Orleans and party there.Or go to Tempe and eat some salsa.

I just know we are in so much better shape then the dumbass fans of Ga Tech. Yesterday I watched this fat nasty redneck girl eating ice cream at the mall with her son.She was wearing Ga Tech sweatshirt that had more food on it then a Ryan’s buffet.I asked her if she was a yellow jacket fan.She smiled and said oh yes.Her teeth (all three of them)matched her team colors.Classly.Maybe they can get her husband to coach.He could do no worse then Chan.

I think Tech should hire Mike Price.He would fit right in…and the Cheetah is right around the corner.No need for him to drive all the way to Destin for some action.He could drop by the Cheetah for lunch and after practice and watch some real pros.Take the team over and look at their first pretty girl (versus the campus offerings).

Go Dawgs!And to Hell with Ga Tech(what a joke of a football program) and their successful Emerald Bowl repeat.HAHA

By TybeeDawg

November 27, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

G8TR,

Tied for 1st in the East and Co-Champ of the East….let’s see…yep, I see your point. There a huge difference between calling yourself one vs. the other…idiot.

By Alpha Dog

November 27, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

LSU could jump UGA if they win. Did you see the comments by Les Miles, he is already trying to make a political statement about Georgia being ranked higher. All people will hear this week is how UGA did not win the Championship game. It is just a big political mess.

By YellowIsTheColorOfP**S

November 27, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

The SEC’s website list Tennessee and Georgia as Eastern Division co-champions, and Tennessee as the Eastern Division SEC Championship Game Representative.

By Jason

November 27, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

You redneck hillbillies couldn’t hold Illinois jockstrap. Come up north and get a taste of a real civilized society. The home of Dick Butkus—ILLINOIS

By ActuaryDawg

November 27, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

The official recognition by the SEC of divisional co-champions goes back to the first year of divisional play.

Read this link to the official SEC web-site. Notice it refers to the eastern division representative in the championship game as “co-champions.” The term is the official designation for all the teams that tie for a division lead. Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia fans can visit their respective team trophy rooms to find an SEC EASTERN DIVISIONAL CO-CHAMPION Tropy in each one for 2005.

Like the term or not, Richt’s reference to “co-champs” was neither inaccurate nor invented by him. According to the SEC Georgia and Tennessee are officially divisional co-champions. By virtue of the tie-breaker rules Tennessee is given the opportunity to play for the conference title.

By YellowIsTheColorOfP**S

November 27, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Alpha dog, it’s the same way it has always been. Lose early and you can recover, lose late and “too bad”.

By ActuaryDawg

November 27, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

[This page]http://www.secsports.com/index.php?s=&changewellid=9997&urlchannelid=2 from the SEC web-site shows the current standings. Notice that both Tennessee and Georgia are designated by the conference as “Eastern Division Co-Champions” and Tennessee is further designated as “Eastern Division SEC Championship Game Representative.” If you have a problem with the terminology, you should complain to the SEC. These designations have been unchanged for the last fifteen years. It did not start with Georgia and Mark Richt.

By YellowIsTheColorOfP**S

November 27, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Jason, I live in IL. Believe, me it doesn’t even come close to being as good as the home of Herschel Walker - GEORGIA! And as for the Illini, not counting this season, what have they done? One Big 10 title 7 or 8 years ago? Give me a break. Why don’t you come over to Moline, IL and I’ll show what UGA does to Big 10 teams!

By Beachdawg

November 27, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

I feel, sometimes, I should be irritated with myself for reading some of these blogs….because I get worked up over some of the nonsense and pettiness.

First thought, Les Miles had better take care of bidness in Atlanta before he lobbies to jump UGA. UT has actually played better than LSU the last half of the season…tho’UT almost screwed the pooch with KY.

Secondly, Fairness has NEVER entered into the Bowl fray since BEFORE BCS. So why should it now?? It’s all about the money…Show me the money !!!! as Jerry Maguire says. Of course, therein lies part of the conference championship purposes. $$$$ So, don’t be surprised if UGA gets the hose. Fla. in the Orange Bowl makes perfect sense to the masses there…Who knows?? If UT beats LSU, the pollsters may drop LSU far enough that the Orange bowl scenario could take place.

Last…heard a snipet from Kirk Herbstreit on ESPN this morning and he readily admits that the Buckeyes had an obscenely easy schedule. It won’t solve the NC question, but at least someone, even an alum, recognizes it.

As far as recognition goes, I couldn’t name anyone from USC other than Pete Carroll, and Booty. So who cares about that? Fact is, it would be PROBABLY the most watched game of the bowl season…what a shame if the opportunity is there, but it doesn’t happen.

By Mike

November 27, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

What do y’all think the chances are of UGA vs. OU in the Fiesta Bowl? I’m from OK, but am a UGA grad. I would prefer Orange or Rose, but just want others’ opinions on the possibility.

By Alpha Dog

November 27, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

YellowIsTheColorOfP**S, I hear that, clearly a case for a playoff system.

Let the politics begin.

By Leroy

November 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Dear Jason. If “civilized” society includes a Dick and a Butkiss, then I’d rather stay down here w/ the redneck hillbillies. Man, I knew there were some weirdos in Ill., but this guy is scary.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Who cares if we are co-champions or not? Technically we are, but it does not matter. If Tennessee beats LSU we are not somehow co-Conference Champs, which the only thing that matters anyway. Sheeesh.

Southern Football Fan,

Where do you come up with your stuff on Bobby Dodd? He averaged 7.5 wins a season in 9 and 10 game seasons which is a hell of a lot better than winning 6 or 7 in a 12 game season.

Also, Dodd did not lose 7 of his last 8 to Georgia. Dooley beat them his last 3 years, but during that 8 year period you quote, Dodd was 3-5 against us. He beat Johnny Griffith all three years he coached the Dawgs (61-63).

Enjoy the great year and stop worrying about BS.

By Big Dawg

November 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Fellow Dawgs with all due respect LSU and VT will not pass us in the BCS if they win this coming weekend. You are worrying over nothing and as it stands right now we are either headed to the Rose or Fiesta Bowl.

Go Dawgs

By 82DAWG

November 27, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

Orange Bowl would be great. Only ungreat part of it would be the opponent. BC or VT. Virginia Tech we already beat last year so no new excitement about playing a cool top ranked opponent from the Big 12, 10+1 or Pac 10. Against BC in bowl games we haven’t fared well against in the past and oh I fear what Ryan would do to our two deep cover defense. Torch? But Orange, Rose or Fiesta, who cares? They are all golden to me!

By Atlanta Gator

November 27, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

Southern Football Fan——Have you ever actually been to the City of Atlanta? If so, have you ever seen any of the city’s many upscale residential districts or those of the surrounding suburbs? Buckhead, Brookhaven, Vinings, Smyrna and many other city neighborhoods and suburbs are among the most livable urban and suburban environments in America. If you are actually from Georgia, you need to visit the City again. Times have changed, and so has Atlanta.

By Doug

November 27, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

The SEC can call us “SEC East co-champions” just like the ACC refers to GT as their 1998 “co-champion,” but no self-respecting Dawg should be crowing about that title. We got whupped by Tennessee, it sucks, but it’s in the books. We’re not the “co-champion” any more than Al Gore is the “co-president.”

Look at it another way: If it was Georgia going to the Dome this weekend after having pasted Tennessee 35-14 and you overheard a Tennessee fan talking about the Vols being division “co-champions,” would you congratulate him on his team’s achievement, or would you laugh your a* off? I hope it’d be the latter.

By Devildawg

November 27, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Tony

One thing to remember is that ABC will want the USC-UGA game much more than a USC-ILL matchup. ABC gets only this game while FOX has all the other BCS games. ABC would sell the heck out of this matchup. The Dawgs vs Trojans is a ratings bonanza and would probably be the most anticipated matchup of the bowl season - not to mention the winner would most likely be the #1 team for 2008. The media would have a lot to do with the selection happening if they get on the bandwagon calling for that game and what a travesty to see USC whip up on Ill. Since I am a Pac 10 alum I am very familiar with how the RB operates and I believe they will fall back on picking UGA for two reasons: Its a much better game (ratings) and history (what a great story to have UGA back inthe rose after 60+ years). Finally, if they pass up a great matchup then I think even mroe people will wonder why we have the bowls instead of a playoff system.

By Power T

November 27, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Big Dawg, VT and LSU can definately jump you this week since you have no way of gaining any more BCS points. Your loyalty is blind to the ways of the BCS rankings. Any team that plays and beats a top 15 team will gain at least 100 BCS points. You better pull for BC and UT. Sorry to burst your bubble. (I know, you will say I am crazy, but the BCS experts say so)

By gdawginkalamazoo

November 27, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

If we make it to the Rose we better kick a$$ is all I have to say.

By baloney

November 27, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Well said Doug.

By SunDawg

November 27, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator, how could you leave out scenic Jonesboro, the place of my upbringing and the location Sherman chose to cut the rail line south of Atlanta?

I know this is selfish, but I hope it isn’t the Orange Bowl. Joe Robbie Stadium is about 15 minutes from where I live, but I’ll be in Atlanta January 3rd. This won’t be decided by popular vote, will it?

By Bob

November 27, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Power T, You are correct. I suspect if LSU wins they jump us. It would be kind of hard to argue that since they will be SEC Champ with one more win. VT, I am not so sure about that one, but it will be close. However, if Mizzou loses it will be a wash and a #4 locks in BCS Bowl slot. OU is too far back and USC won’t because they won’t get a lift from beating unranked UCLA.

By Power T

November 27, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Bob, VT is ranked higher right now than LSU and playing a higher ranked opponent (BC) than LSU is. VT will get more of a boost than LSU.

By TybeeDawg

November 27, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Doug, Good logic. Let’s tell our recruits and future recruits we really weren’t co-champions of the east. Lets just tell them to sign with TN since they beat us.

What would you tell them if we happened to be tied in the rankings with TN? We dont really count that cause TN beat us? We just consider ourselves unranked.

What you rather have happened? That we had one more loss that in the SEC than TN so we could say we came in second in the east????

You really are as dumb as you sound.

By Skydawg

November 27, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Tony, With all due respect, you’ve wrongly predicted the Dawgs fate all year long. So I don’t feel real inclined to trust your judgement here either. Wherever the Dawgs go, it’s been a great year and the best is yet to come.

By I-DOG

November 27, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Big Ed,

You live in the Southeast obviously, and are speculating on what people outside the Region think of Georgia. You are incorrect.

I have lived in 6 cities outside the Southeast and people in ALL of them instantly recognize UGA and respect UGA football (those that care about college football anyway). They also respect SEC football as a whole.

I will be at the Rose or Fiesta (they are closer to home than Athens is for me) if the Dawgs are invited to either of those bowls. UGA doesn’t travel well outside the Southeast? Where is your proof of that?

I would have to agree that if UGA were to go to a very small bowl outside the SE after say a 7-5 season, we might not travel as well, but for a major game… we will use all our tickets without question.

USC V. Georgia in the Rose? Every seat issued to UGA would be gone very quickly!

By br

November 27, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Hey Bob,

I think YOU better check the facts…Tito is right. Here is the proof:

2002: Minnesota 29, Arkansas 14 Auburn 13, Penn State 9 Michigan 38, Florida 30 2003: Auburn 28, Wisconsin 14 Georgia 34, Purdue 27 Iowa 37, Florida 17 2004: Iowa 30, LSU 25 Minnesota 20, Alabama 16 Georgia 24, Wisconsin 21 2005: Wisconsin 24, Auburn 10 Florida 31, Iowa 24 2006: Florida 41, Ohio State 14 Wisconsin 17, Arkansas 14 Penn State 20, Tennessee 10

That’s 8-6 in favor of the Big Ten. I don’t like the Big Ten as much as you do, but he’s right!

By Bob

November 27, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

PowerT, You maybe right, but I think when the final games are over a lot of the BCS voters will realize that LSU massacred Va. Tech. Remember, LSU just came off a loss. But it could go either way.

TybeeDawg, I know quite a few recruits and I don’t believe any I have ever met could give a darn whether we tied for first in the SEC East or not. Win the Championship, yeah. Go to and win a BCS bowl yeah. But claim a tie for the SEC East…nobody I know gives a damn about that.

By GloryGlory

November 27, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Thanks Tony, more reasons why the boring, meaningless bowl games should be sacked in favor of a 16 team playoff. Div 1A does it, why can’t Div 1?

By TybeeDawg

November 27, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Bob, Maybe…maybe not. So you clearly got 2 choices here:

1. Say we are co-champs of the east(which we are)

2. Ignore it, deny it, pretend it didn’t happen, refuse to talk about it, treat it like its a bad thing.

Which of those do you think sounds better and more positive???

And by the way…how many of those “quite a few recruits” that you “know” did you ask that question?

By Palmetto State Dawg

November 27, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Tony, you’re a UGA grad, so we know your a Bulldawg at heart. You do a nice job of staying impartial, but I know that secretly you bleed red & black.

By War Eagle

November 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

This would be ideal for SEC bowl selection for complete exposure to win big time games against other conferences.. ROSE-UGA-USC, SUGAR- LSU/Tenn- Oklahoma, COTTON Ark.- Michgan ,FIESTA, LSU/Tenn- Missouri, ORANGE- Florida- VATech/ Boston College PEACH, Auburn- Clemson.Tedow wins Heisman, Mark Richt, National coach of the Year.UGA and Auburn pre season top 5 2008?

By Sicem

November 27, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Of course they would rather have #14 Illinois instead of #3 or 4 Georgia. They dont want their constantly over rated Pac 1 plus 9 USC to get exposed by a great SEC team. Nobody wants to play the DAWGS right now and who can blame them?

By BCS Bound

November 27, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Think of it this way:

• If the Rose Bowl wants to take a pedestrian football team with a tiny fan base, rather than setting up the game of the year…

• And if the Orange Bowl wants to destroy its own credibility by taking a Florida team that finished 3rd in the East and was beaten by 2 scores against Georgia…

Then forget the BCS, I don’t want anything to do with it.

But relax. We’re BCS bound. And no, VT and LSU aren’t both jumping us AND KU.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

br,

You are correct my friend. I was wrong. Tito said they were 8-5, I said they were 7-7 and they were indeed 8-6 over that 5 year period. I am enjoying my crow….not really.

By Michael G.

November 27, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Now is the time for UGA President Adams, AD Evans, and even SEC commish Slive to earn their paychecks and ensure that UGA makes it to the Rose or Fiesta Bowl, depending on what Missouri does Sat. night. I do not believe the Orange bowl is even a option, unless BC beats Va. Tech. No one, especially the Orange Bowl committee, want a bowl rematch from the previous year on their hands. If Va. Tech wins and LSU wins in convincing fashion, I think it’s entirely possible both could jump us in the polls. That’s why Florida would be chosen ahead of us. Because we would no loger be forced to be taken. So Adams and Evans; IT’S TIME TO EARN YOUR PAYCHECK AND START POLICITING FOR UGA!!!

By Fredbob Magillicudy a.k.a.FMDAWG

November 27, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Fun to speculate!!!

By late Saturday night - the picture will become more clear.

I for one would love to see the Dawgs take on USC in the Rose….but it does not matter.

I personally would rather see a plus one system in place and let them play at whatever venue is determined:

Winner in National Championship game.

Go Dawgs

By jed

November 27, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Johndog, Be careful talking about other schools fans when most uga fans in south ga look like Larry the cable guy with a big wad of chew and fly the rebel flag.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

TybeeDawg, None, because it seems to me to be a stupid question. However, if it makes you feel better go for it. I would rather say we just beat USC in the Rose Bowl than say we tied for a division crown and lost the tie breaker. But whatever.

By Pete Carroll

November 27, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Hey, Fredbob Magillicudy ….

THE best way to make us SC boys look even better will be if we actually get to play you boys from the deep south …. the rankings are still heavily influenced by human error (which is why you are #4), and when we beat you guys’ ** by double-digits, we will have done it to the #3 team since that’s where you have to be ranked in order for us to show how much “error” the polls still have.
Prove my error you ask …. okay, when LSU beats UT this weekend, then the Tigers will have beaten BOTH of the teams you guys couldn’t. And one of LSU’s losses (Arkansas) absolutely destroyed (500+ yards … RUSHING) one of the teams you couldn’t beat. And for LSU’s other loss … name any team in the country that would have beaten UK that day — you can’t b/c there isn’t one. But somehow, after Saturday, a team that couldn’t even win its division will be ranked higher than its conference champion. Any given Saturday…bring-it puppies; WE ARE…SC!!!

Regards, Peter

By SoljaBoy

November 27, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Toni Barnyard, who the heck cares what you think or write about? Perhaps you get your column ideas from that other nitwit, Terri Moore, who just might sit next to your miserable cubicle. Get a life, clown boy.

By Dawg4Life

November 27, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

There is no way LSU jumps the Dawgs….Look at the BCS points!!! Way to many to leapfrog us…also, i do not believe that Tenn. will lose that badly. LSU’s defense has taken a big hit with the injury to Dorsey. As for VT, I dont think they will beat BC anyways. I dont know why people are counting BC out. Here will be the standings, mark it down… 1) WVU 2) MIZZ 3) OSU 4) UGA 5) LSU.

Lsu would have to beat Tenn. by 30pts. in order to jump over us and the same with VT. Either way, Dawgs end up in the Orange bowl playing ACC champ. This sux because we played VT last year and BC is as boring of a game as it gets. See ya in a week.

By realyellowblood

November 27, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Gee, I wonder if Radakovich knew that he had to ask permission from UGA fans to fire Gailey ? Well, I guess thats the way it works in GA. ROSE BOWL: The only Trojans that the Dawgs will be around are the ones that are 3 years old in their wallets.

By DominantDawg

November 27, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Pete Carroll, Your illogical statements regarding a double digit U.S—-.C—-. victory over a winning SEC team are both laughable and refreshing. Did you conveniently forget that your Condoms (Trojans) had their butts handed to them by the bottom-dwelling Stanford (#95 in the nation) team in you OWN BACK YARD??? Put down that crack pipe and try to start making some sense, california surfer girl.

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

I can’t imagine anyone expecting a 3 loss team to be picked over a 2 loss team - except, UT Fans of course!

By SoljaBoy

November 27, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

realyellowblood,

You really seem to be yellow. Your pathetic GT team is yellow as well. Seven years and you clowns cannot manage at least one victory over UGA? Face it - GT could not defeat a 6th-grade girl soccer team. It hurts, doesn’t it? Yes, it hurts. Are you crying now, yellow boy? You are, aren’t you? Go ask your mommy to go to McD’s and get you a Happy Meal so you may stop whimpering. Maybe you can dry those bitter tears when you unwrap your McD toy!!! Good luck out in the elite Smurf Bowl. Ha haaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

By G8TR

November 27, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Doug: Thanks, you made my point to your fellow Dawg nation’ers exactly. I can’t imagine that when UT fans invade the streets of downtown ATL this weekend, that UGA’s fans will be walking around crowing about being their “co-champs” — no matter what the SEC technically deems its consolation prize following divisional ties. UT and UF certainly did not crow that way in 2003 when a three-way tie occurred and UGA went to ATL for the SECCG. (Keep in mind that UF beat UGA that year, too.) And the current UF media guide entry for that season — which goes to all potential recruits — does not list that year’s UF team as East division “co-champs.” TybeeDawg, please show a little logic (and humility or self-respect) or get back in the water where co-chumps swim.

By Heeldawg

November 27, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

There’s a whole lot of discussion on this Blog about nothing.

Guess I’m adding to it.

The pollsters will not jump either VT or LSU over Georgia or Ohio State because of a win in their respective championship games unless those games are absolute blowouts. As badly as LSU’s been playing plately (and as stupid as Les Miles’ playcalling has been), I just don’t see that happening in the SECCG, and Va. Tech’s offense is not strong enough to overwhelm a solid BC defense in that fashion. The Dawgs may move up to third if Missouri loses (which I actually don’t think is going to happen. This is a once-in-a-lifetime shot for them, and I don’t think the Sooners can take them down twice).

If the Rose Bowl takes Illinois over a Georgia-USC matchup, they are fools. I agree that this contest will have the most interest of any bowl—maybe even more than the national title game. The “2008 preseason #1” tag mentioned above for the winner of this game is right on target.

Similarly, an Illinois-Florida tilt would get my attention. I’d love to see that one. I suspect many other fans feel the same way.

I hate to agree with G8TR, but he’s right. Who cares if a team is listed as “Co-SEC East champions?” if they didn’t play in the title game? It makes us sound like a bunch of wannabes. We should have taken care of business against the Gamecocks. If we had, we’d be #1 and playing for the SEC and national titles right now. But we didn’t, and we aren’t. The whole discussion is stupid.

Finally, Tech needs to get over its delusions of adequacy. The Jackets are not national contenders in football. Those days are over. They had better get used to 7-5 and 8-4 seasons ending with losses to their in-state rivals, because that is their lot in life. The world has moved on. If they fire coaches over seasons like this one, they are never going to be happy. It is said that frustration occurs when reality doesn’t meet expectations.

Tech had better lower their expectations

Or learn to deal with repetitive furstration

Which will not be assuaged by alcoholic libations

From tomorrow until the end of creation!

(Hey, I’m a poet!)

By Tom Trojan

November 27, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

Congrats on a great season DAWGS! Earlier GTVegas wrote and I agree with him! It is not a BIG DEAL out here to win football games! It is nice, but not life threatening! We will not loose sleep if we loose a football game! USC beat Fran Tarkenton’s UGA team, I was present and enjoyed the game very much! We beat Arkansas two years in a row and stole their quarterback in the deal! We try to win the PAC 10 and play in the Rose Bowl! If we don’t, OK! We schedule games with teams with big reps, Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame and if you would like to get on our list, apply! You may have to drop some 1AA teams, but apply, K? If you think, for a second, that we are ‘Afraid’ of UGA, think again! We would delight in playing you in the Rose Bowl, it is not up to us! Incidentally, the very first college football game I ever saw was UGA vs Auburn, in Columbus, Ga. Auburn won but UGA went to The Rose Bowl..and won! GO DAWGS…except against my Trojans!

By DannyK

November 27, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

To HGinEvanston :

Why should Ohio State drop? They are 11-1 after 12 games, their season is over. Other teams playing for the two weeks after thanksgiving also have 12 games, its just that their season ends later. Ohio States 12 games get it the BCS ranking it currently has while the other teams have yet to get their final BCS tally. Make sense?

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

TOM TROJAN:

Yeah, ND and Nebraska have done REALLY WELL this year! (Even NAVY beat ND this year!)

Surprisingly you did mention Arkansas - only one of two teams this year to have beaten the No. 1 Rated Team for most of the year (LSU). Both of which are SEC Teams. By the way, the only other team to have beaten them was Kentucky - yes, Surfer Girl, ANOTHER SEC TEAM!

It is understandable that your Bowl Officials do not want to play an SEC Team - especially since you have to go all the way back to the Tarkenton Days to recall the last time you played the DAWGS.

By Mike in Athens

November 27, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

Tony..

The Rose Bowl spokesman was quoted as saying that Illinois would have to be top 12 to even be considered. I have now heard top 14 and top 12. Which is it?

Thanks

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

Mike In Athens, If you are waiting for Tony to respond, don’t hold your breath. Chip Towers is the only one who actually reads the blogs after he posts them and has taken the time to respond to some.

By Bob

November 27, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this

Mike in Athens,

Technically Illinois is eligible if they make the top 14. Whatever standards the Rose Bowl uses to choose is unclear. They might have determined if the Illini are 12th or higher they will take them. But by BCS standards they must have 9 wins and be ranked 14th or higher. They currently are 15th, but will likely move up one or two spots depending on who loses Saturday.

By Phat Phil

November 27, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

How can you dumbazz UGA redneck fans even think about “sharing the SEC Championship” if Tennessee beats LSU..which it will? Newsflash…you do NOT share a conference title. I realize that most of you barely have an 8th grade education but this borders on insanity. The Vols spanked your azzes back in October so suck it up and move on with your life. Get a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee, a carton of Camels, and about 1 dozen Slim Jims then sit back and watch Tennessee wax LSU. As much as I hate to say this, I hope UGA ends up in a BCS bowl to represent the SEC..the best conference in the land! GO BIG ORANGE!!!! Rocky Top!!!

By Tom Trojan

November 27, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this

Fla DAWG, why insult me? I didn’t insult you or UGA! We cannot be responsible for other teams! We haven’t gone anywhere since we cleaned Tark’s plow, but we haven’t seen any invites fron UGA for a game! Understand, you must come here cause you ain’t got enough seats for us…we are money hungry! Tenn beat you, Cal beat Tenn and we beat Cal. We loose games we are supposed to win, but we do not cry about it! If we beat UCLA, we are the PAC 10 Champs and will play in the Rose Bowl, period! I hope you can come, we would enjoy playing a team from the greatest conference in the world. I do not think it would stunt our growth if we lost the game, we still come down to Georgia and steal your best players cause where would you like to play, in California, or Athens, Georgia! Incidentally, we have a lot of running backs, so we sent Moody down to Florida so their QB don’t have to run so much! Anyway, wish you well in your bowl game. BY the by, if you are selected to play in The Rose Bowl, we will wear our white shirts, gold pants and red helmets, and you can wear your black shirts! Suit you?

By Bob

November 27, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this

Hey Tommy,

Good posts. I really respect the Trojan football tradition and I usually pull for you guys to whup up on the Big Ten guys. If Mizzou wins, you can pound on Ohio State. If the Rose is hospitable to invite us to your fair city, I am sure we will not decline.

BTW, our little ole stadium seats about 250 more than yours (92,746 to 92,512) so their should be more than enough room for the Men of Troy. Your seating data comes from the LA Colliseum authority. You guys do have one thing in common with our rivals in Atlanta though. You both reduced the size of your stadium.

By Palmetto State Dawg

November 27, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this

Hey Phat Phil, a Tennessee fan calling a UGA fan a redneck is like Bill Clinton calling someone a womanizer. Your mascot is a coon hound, and Davey Crockett. If that’s not redneck, then I don’t know what is….

By Dawg

November 27, 2007 8:57 PM | Link to this

If it comes down to Georgia and Illinois for the Rose Bowl and they pick the Illini, the SEC should withdraw from the BCS in protest. You have to draw the line somewhere. College football has changed. Traditions are important, but should’nt a deserving team from another conference be allowed to experience the best bowl of them all? If Georgia is available and denied, it would be a black eye on the Tournament of Roses Committee.

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

Trojan, As Bob states above, we seat just under 100,000 fans in our house. You have no concept of SEC ball my friend. I hope the Dawgs get a chance to educate you and others on the West Coast. May I suggest the condoms wear the red jerseys - that way the blood won’t show too much. No insult my friend - just SEC Level Rivalry.

By Tom Trojan

November 27, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Bob and Fla Dawg! We would have more room in the turnstyle end of the Colliseum except we have 6 Heisman Throphy winner’s jersey’s there! Thought Hershall was a beauty, great running back! We can judge great running backs, we have had a few! I really do hope you can show up, not up to us as I stated! Mentioned that we like certain players from Georgia, Kyle Moore our outstanding defense end comes from Georgia! Keith Rivers, outside linebaker comes from Florida, the other outside comes from New Jersey, the middle is a California boy! If you get to come, you will get to meet all up close and personal! I honestly hope you get to play for the national championship, since we can’t…this year! I will cheer for you, trust me! Incidentally, we haven’t seen UGA since Tark! He was something else, trust me! Be cool!

By Bob

November 27, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this

Tommy, Thanks for the kudos, and yeah Hershel was pretty fair. He gets along with his wife too. I understand the jersies..sounds pretty cool to me to recognize your past Heisman winners. But you don’t really need the seats anyway since you don’t fill the ones you have. Well, maybe for your cross town rivals.

We are very happy to share some of our football talent with you guys. It is very comforting to know that those who can’t make it in Athens can get a quality education at a fine university like USC.

It would be very nice to meet these guys. They could meet our running back from New Jersey and our Quarterback from Texas. We have a tight end from Oakland, but he will have to wait until our current guy graduates in two years.

I doubt we make the BCS game but thanks for the good wishes. If we don’t get to visit the San Gabriel Mountains, I hope you do a number on the Buckeyes. If we do make it, it should be fun. Fight On and Go Dawgs.

By Tom Trojan

November 27, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

Bob, WONDERFUL! GO DAWGS and we will surely FIGHT ON!

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this

The Dawgs are hungry for another fight. A UGA / USC matchup should be a good, smash-mouth football game. If you need another running back, we are known as “Tailback U.” and could spot you a back or two.

Congratulations to you on a great, winning season. Hope to play your boys in the bowl.

UNCHAIN THE YARD DAWGS ‘N LET ‘EM EAT !!!!!

By FLA DAWG

November 27, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this

Tom, The Dawgs are hungry for another fight. A UGA / USC matchup should be a good, smash-mouth football game. If you need another running back, we are known as “Tailback U.” and could spot you a back or two.

Congratulations to you on a great, winning season. Hope to play your boys in the bowl.

UNCHAIN THE YARD DAWGS ‘N LET ‘EM EAT !!!!!

By Richard

November 27, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

You still make me want to throw up…and so do most Dawg fans.

By brandon

November 27, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this

The Rose Bowl gets better ratings—even in years it has mediocre teams—than the other bowls—and in some years even out-rates the National Championship Game on TV. That speaks volumes to the Rose Committee: Pac 10 vs Big 10 is what the “average” American wants to see on January 1st. Sorry, dreamers: We’ll be going to Arizona or we’ll stay in the South. No Roses for us. And who can beat the Rose Bowl TV Formula? Whyever would they change it if it does so well?

By brandon

November 27, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this

The Rose Bowl gets better ratings—even in years it has mediocre teams—than the other bowls—and in some years even out-rates the National Championship Game on TV. That speaks volumes to the Rose Committee: Pac 10 vs Big 10 is what the “average” American wants to see on January 1st. Sorry, dreamers: We’ll be going to Arizona or we’ll stay in the South. No Roses for us. And who can beat the Rose Bowl TV Formula? Whyever would they change it if it does so well?

By Bob

November 27, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this

Brandon,

Of the last 6 Rose Bowls, only 2 have been the traditional Big Ten- PAC Ten meetings. The Big XII has had 4 teams and the Big East one. The beautiful setting, the Rose Parade and a great post New Years Day meal time slot makes it perfect for the eastern half of the country to watch.

I am sure more fans would prefer watching USC play a top 5 team than a number 13 team. But, I do think you are probably right that the Tournament of Roses Committee may select that other team.

By Icanread

November 27, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this

Hey TybeeDawg,

I took your advice and read the SEC Manuel. It says that “in event of a tie for the division championship, the following procedures will be used to BREAK all ties…1. Head to Head matchup”. If I’m not mistaken, when UT broke the tie by kicking UGA’s _ ss, there was no longer a tie and you no longer shared in the SEC East Title. Idiot.

By Gator Nation

November 28, 2007 12:18 AM | Link to this

Georgia Shares the SEC east title??? Are you kidding me dawg fans? Anybody who thinks this is grasping at straws. A tie breaker is put in place to decide a champion. Tennessee is the champ by virtue of their win over Georgia, thus winning the tie-breaker. By your logic two teams who end a regulation football game tied would share the win even after they played overtime to decide the winner.

Let it go Georgia. You had a great season. But your runner-up in the SEC east.

By TampaDawg

November 28, 2007 1:36 AM | Link to this

Based soley on who I think wins the games and that the BCS ranks will be after the wins (all wins are close, no blowouts)…no slight to other teams:

Fiesta #6 OU vs At Large Orange #4 VT vs At Large Rose #7 USC vs At Large Sugar #5 LSU vs At Large NC #1 WVU vs #2 OSU

Under that - both OU and USC vs UGA is a marquee matchup and would draw a lot of national attention, particularly if UGA moves up to #3 after this wekend shakes out. Would be tough for the Rose to Pass on Illinois because BC would likely drop out of the top 14 and UI would slide in. If not Rose, then Fiesta makes the next best matchup. Orange most likely is VT vs UF (say what you will, I dont think they want a VT UGA rematch WITH UF clamoring to sell 30K tickets). Sugar will likely have Hawaii because its got the last pick.

Most Likely If Illinois In Rose - USC vs Illinois Fiesta - OU vs UGA Orange - VT vs Missou/Kansas/ASU? Sugar - LSU vs Hawaii

Worst Case scenario - Rose - takes Illinois Fiesta - Takes Hawaii Orange - Takes FL Sugar - Takes Missou/Kansas/BC

UGA on the outside looking in.

Go Oklahoma Go BC * Go Tennessee * Go USC

And Lets go to Pasadena!

HBTD

** - means would likely keep other teams in the top 14 and keep Illinois out - they are the problem team now.

By TampaDawg

November 28, 2007 1:41 AM | Link to this

P.S. - For all UGA fans - please stop saying “SEC East Co-Champs”.

That sounds tacky, like you’re just searching for a title to have. Like the old addage about “When you get into the endzone, act like you’ve been there before” - it sort of applies. When you are tied for a SUB-DIVISION of a major conference, dont brag you are “Co-Champ”. We lost badly to Tennessee fair and square, and laid an egg against USC. Tennessee is the East Champ - give them their due, they earned it.

Tip my cap to ya Vols

By TampaDawg

November 28, 2007 1:48 AM | Link to this

OK - what’s the secret on spacing, carriage returns, and stuff on this post thing - cause my post looked a LOT more organized before I hit submit.

By MayorMcCheese

December 11, 2007 12:28 AM | Link to this

FACT: After winning the SEC East Co-Championship, Mark Richt took the UGA football team to Pizza Hut and handed out participation trophies. It was a very moving ceremony. Go Dawgs!