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Trying to project the BCS bowls
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
To project the BCS bowls two weeks before the end of the regular season, you have to make a few assumptions. That is always a dangerous thing, particularly in this whacky season.
But here are two sets of BCS projections, one with No. 1 LSU winning the SEC championship game and another with either Georgia or Tennessee winning the SEC title. All other conference champions are projected except for Ohio State, which clinched the Big Ten title last Saturday.
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS
These teams receive automatic bids to the BCS:
•ACC: Virginia Tech (11-2) beats Virginia and then beats Boston College in ACC championship game.
•SEC: LSU (12-1) beats Arkansas and then Georgia/Tennessee in SEC championship game.
•Big East: West Virginia (11-1) beats Connecticut and Pitt.
•Big Ten: Ohio State (11-1) has clinched Big Ten.
•Big 12: Oklahoma (11-2) beats Kansas in the Big 12 championship game.
•Pac-10: Southern Cal (10-2) wins its last two games with Arizona State and UCLA and Oregon loses at least one without QB Dennis Dixon.
AT-LARGE POOL
To be in the at-large pool, a team must have nine wins AND finish in the Top 14 of the BCS Standings. One conference may not have more than two teams in BCS games.
•Kansas (11-1): Loses to Oklahoma in Big 12 championship.
•Missouri (10-2): Loses to Kansas this Saturday.
•Arizona State (10-2): Loses to Southern Cal this Thursday but beats Arizona.
•Georgia (10-2): Beats Georgia Tech but does not get to SEC championship.
•Florida (9-3): Beats Florida State to finish in Top 12.
•Texas (10-2): Beats Texas A&M on Friday.
•Hawaii (12-0): Beats Boise State and Washington.
BCS GAMES IF LSU WINS SEC
•BCS Championship: LSU vs. West Virginia.
•How it happened: LSU stays at No. 1 after winning the SEC championship. No. 2 Kansas loses to Oklahoma and West Virginia moves into the No. 2 position.
•Sugar Bowl: Georgia vs. Hawaii
•How it happened: Because the Sugar lost the SEC champ to the BCS title game, it gets to pick first from the at-large pool. The Sugar takes Georgia, one of the hottest teams in the land. The Sugar also picks last because New Orleans is hosting the BCS. championship game. It picks Hawaii to play the Dawgs.
•Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. Texas/Kansas
•How it happened: Virginia Tech would be an automatic as the ACC champ. The Orange would choose between Kansas and Texas. This would be a tough decision because Texas has a stronger TV appeal.
•Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Arizona State
•How it happened: As the Big 12 champ, Oklahoma is an automatic to the Fiesta. The hometown Arizona State Sun Devils are sitting there at 10-2. It’s a no-brainer.
•Rose: Ohio State and Southern Cal.
•How it happened: If the Big Ten and Pac-10 champs aren’t in the big game, they automatically go to the Rose.
BCS GAMES IF GEORGIA/TENNESSEE WINS SEC
•BCS Championship: West Virginia vs. Ohio State
•How it happened: Both No. 1 LSU and No. 2 Kansas get beat on Dec. 1. That moves No. 3 West Virginia and No. 4 Ohio State up and into the national championship game. Georgia (11-2) gets squeezed out and finishes at No. 3.
•Sugar Bowl: Georgia/Tennessee vs. Hawaii
•How it happened: Georgia/Tennessee goes to the Sugar Bowl as the SEC champion and faces Colt Brennan and the high-flying Hawaii offense.
•Orange: Virginia Tech vs. Texas/Kansas
•How it happened: Nothing changes for the Orange, which wants to take Texas but will feel pressure to take Kansas.
•Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Arizona State
•How it happened: Nothing changes for the boys in Tempe.
•Rose: Southern Cal vs. LSU
•How it happened: Because the Rose lost Ohio State to the BCS championship game, it gets to pick first from the at-large pool. It surveys the landscape and decides to take LSU at 11-2. When it appeared the Tigers were headed to Pasadena last season, their fans pre-purchased over 45,000 tickets. LSU ended up in the Sugar, but the folks at the Tournament of Roses haven’t forgotten that gesture.




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By azcat225
November 20, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Tony, an awful amount of work put into something that you just know will be completely different next Monday after another round of upsets this weekend, but thanks for the effort.
By jack
November 20, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
Go Dawgs!
By Justin
November 20, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
One possibility no one is talking about:
Georgia plays LSU in the SEC Championship game, and loses. All the projections I’ve seen either have Georgia beating LSU or LSU beating Tennessee in that game.
If Georgia lost that game to LSU and wound up 10-3, does anybody really think the Sugar Bowl would still take Georgia? I’m afraid that would send Georgia tumbling down the ladder.
As I seem to recall some discussion of a recent rule ensuring that the SEC Championship Game loser would fall no lower than the Capital One Bowl, I guess that might be where Georgia would end up if they lost to LSU in the SECCG. Yeah, I know the Capital One wants Florida and Illinois, but if that rule does exist, I would think this would be the reason why.
Anyway…I don’t see the Sugar Bowl taking a team that loses convincingly in their conference championship game and goes 10-3. Georgia would be no higher than 10th in the BCS in that scenario — and probably lower than that.
By the old ballcoach
November 20, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
So where am I? Barnhart,you are a joke! No way the BCS passes on Me. I am a star! I am a QB pulling, visor throwing, sideline roaming, ball of fire! I am also the best football coach ever! Me? Not in a BCS bowl? Tell Me another funny one!
By GoDawgs
November 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
The rose Bowl will never pick an SEC team, it would only demonstrate how superior the SEC is over Pac-10 and Big 10.
By Spike
November 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Tony, Kansas will not beat both Missouri and Oklahoma, and may lose to both. Their bubble is about to burst. You all heard it hear first!
By schoolofhardknocks
November 20, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
first
By Your mom
November 20, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Tony, looks good…Let’s Go Mountaineers!
By DawgsRule
November 20, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Ga v. Hawaii??? LOL!!! Georgia would blow this patsy, no defense team off the field in the first quarter. Give the dawgs a real team to play in the Sugar, not these weak west coast type teams.
By mike
November 20, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
garbage! it will not happen this way.
By i have a headache
November 20, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
good try we’ll see if your right in a month
By yellowblood
November 20, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
WOW no mention of Ga TECH I’m stunned.
By Ken
November 20, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
I know it’s been said to death, but one more time won’t hurt. College Football should go to a playoff system like the NFL. That would make everything simple!
By baloney
November 20, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
Hey guys, did you read this? Tony said UGA might go to the sugar bowl.Plus he said UGA was one of the hottest teams in the land. I guess that proves that UGA would beat UT if they played now. Gosh, just think how much it would prove it if you asked all the other UGA fans. I bet you would get the same answer.
By phil
November 20, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Keeping Texas in the mix makes the BCS more of joke im my opinion. If, you want to put on the best games. Then take Kansas as the higher rated team. If, all you care about are few extra butts in the seats and TV numbers a lower rated undeserving Texas at BCS 13th. Then get rid of the BCS and go back to letting the bowls take whomever. Because we don’t have BCS putting on the best games with this flawed logic. If, they keep taking who they want or feel will make them the most dollars while leaving higher rated better deserving teams out in the cold. The we don’t have a BCS. Texas should only get in. If OU stumbles and Texas wins the B12 title.
By GS Eagle fan
November 20, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Funny…Barnhardt say’s Sugar Bowl gets first & last pick and takes Hawaii with the last pick against(overrated)UGA implying Hawaii isn’t worthy enough…Oh and DawgsRule, there is a very good article on ESPN.com about Hawaii and their scheduling, give it a look…Hawaii is far from a “patsy” team. But it won’t matter because LSU will beat whomever they play for the national title and UGA won’t have to worry about playing Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl…not after they get beat by Tech on Saturday.
By helpme
November 20, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Which bowl does UGAY get when it loses to Tech Saturday
By Mash
November 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
If Tenn wins the SEC, why wouldn’t the Rose, Fiesta or Orange take UGA over LSU. A UGA team ranked #3, and undeniably the “hottest team in the country”. Tony, I can’t think of a team losing its conference championship and getting preference over a hotter team. You don’t think UGA fans would chomp at the bit to purchase Rose Bowl tickets? I know you’re a UGA fan and try to downplay that by picking against us in some old school nod at ‘professionalism’, but wouldn’t it be more professional to call it realistically.
By hatfieldgeoff
November 20, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
When is the BCS going to wise up. It is bad enough we cannot have a playoff but the way they do things also leads to bad bowl games. The bowl that is second in the pecking order after the championship game should get the next two picks and then the bowl that is third the next two and so on. They way we wind up with the best matchups and not the best available team against the worst avaiable team. I sure miss the old bowl system where each bowl scheduled it teams without conference tie-Ins. It wasn’t perfect but it was much better than this. Also, lets drop about 10 bowl games and make the small bowls all play before Christmas. That is all.
By BCguy
November 20, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Nice prediction of VT in the Orange Bowl. Is this victory against BC in the ACCCG a lock like your Clemson over BC prediction? PLEASE KEEP PICKING AGAINST BC. You are our good luck token.
Sincerely BC Nation.
By Caught
November 20, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
Kansas beats Missouri and Texas and goes on to play LSU in the BCS title game and surprises everyone…
By Erk
November 20, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Justin,
Good point. I think the loser of the SECCG gets penalized. (Assuming Kentucky beats Tennessee), Sugar at that point would probably take a higher ranked team if UGA loses to LSU. Without a Capital One Bowl rule we probably would end up in the Peach, Chik-fil-A, whatever you call it. It seems like the SECCG loser gets the shaft since the bowls already know who they want at that point & the SECCG loser gets whatever is left over.
By Q
November 20, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
help me understand….i thought the sugar bowl is the BCS championship game this year. Now, I’m confused.
By Jimbo Jones
November 20, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Here is my scenario, UGA loses to Tech, then Tenn blows their game and it is UGA vs LSU in the SEC championship game. LSU beats the sh*t out of UGA and UGA ends up 10-4 not going to any BCS bowl and would be lucky to get into the Capital One or Gator Bowl. Then they lose their bowl game and end the season at 10-5 no more stupid scenario’s and one day we get a playoff. AMEN!
By Q
November 20, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Nevermind. I get it. I always thought that the BCS title game was one of the 4 bcs bowl games…that it rotated each year. Did it change this year? or has it always been this way? learn something new everyday….GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!
By Corndawg
November 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Tony: Will you please point out the following to your friends in the national media:
The yardage of Tebow’s touchdown runs this season: 1, 3, 16, 7, 5, 9, 6, 2, 9, 2, 2, 3, 1, 1, 5, 1, 3, 2, 5, 2
In other words, Florida doesn’t have a running back or a full back, which is probably one reason they have lost so many games this year. Put in a decent running back and you can pretty much erase those 15 td runs of 5 yards or less.
By Eric1
November 20, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
I say give La Monroe the bowl that would’ve gone to the fighting sabans!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!!
By Clint
November 20, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Let’s say Tennessee blows out LSU in the SECCG. Since no conference can have no more than 2 BCS teams, who would be the second SEC team? A struggling LSU, or a red hot UGA? Both would have two losses, both would have been beaten by UT, and both would have lost to SEC teams they had no business losing to(UK for LSU and SCU for UGA).
By mcdawg
November 20, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Here is my scenario-BEAT TECH on Saturday-we will talk BCS monday
By Joel
November 20, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
I would not be at all surprised if LSU lost to either Arkansas or Tennessee/Georgia. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kansas at 13-0 and in the national championship game (v. West Virginia).
By me
November 20, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Tony:
Please keep disrespecting Kansas all the way to the Championship game. I’m surprised you did not find a why to put FSU in a BCS game.
By Timelordnot
November 20, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Please leave this column on the server. I’m going to bookmark it to check after the bowl selections. Where should I file it for easy reference meanwhile? Probably with the Weather Channel favorites.
By 3 Rivers jacket
November 20, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Tony- You love those Dawgs do you not. Oh well. I see the upset that just tears this whole thing up and that is Arkansas beating LSU. I do not find that to hard to believe. Then put a 2 loss LSU against a 2 loss tenn with the winner going to the sugar bowl. Georgia then does not go to a BCs bowl. The Sugar is the only one that would want Georgia because contrarty to the Dog Fans thoughts Georgia has NO cache nationally. It is a pretty good little regional program. So they wold go to one of the New year Day bowls in Florida which is not too bad. Of course if they were to lose to Tech and go to the Champ game and lose by a big score to LSU which would be possible then they would See WEEDEATERS FALLING FROM THE SKY.
By cdawg09
November 20, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Hey JIMBO JONES
You obviously went to tech and attended class with Reggie Ball cause you cant count!!!!You say Georgia will go 10-5 thats impossible at the most they only have 3 games left and they are 9-2 which would be a total of 14 games not fifteen keep smoking the good stuff..As far as scenarios go Kentucky will beat Tenn this weekend i guarantee it like death and taxes..Tenn is horrible on the rd and they are lucky as hell ..yeah they beat us fair and square and i admit that but 1 game does not make a season thats why they play 12 games..what will happen in the secc game i dont know,but at least we will have a chance Go Dawgs!!!!!!!
By Woof-woof-woof
November 20, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
I look at it this way.
Beat Tech, enjoy the win…..
Sit back and let whatever happens happen. It’s just great to be a bulldawg fan…..
Then look forward to next year that is going to be better than this one, hard to say that GT?
Beat Tech again next year. Then the next year and then the next, etc etc. etc.
We will end up in the top five.
How about you GT? (103rd) GO DAWGS
By cdawg09
November 20, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Hey 3 Rivers Jacket
You better put down those free nuts that you got for making it to the Emerald Nut Bowl i think you are in a nut coma or something..To call UGA a regioanl program now thats funny!!!If that were true what does that make tech..as far as your scenrios go thats funny to..there is about a good of chance as that happening as you finding a date for the game this weekend…The only way you will be able to do that is to offer her the same thing the Athletic Department offers season ticket holders at tech a free hot dog and coke…NOW THATS FUNNY HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!
By Matt
November 20, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
There’s NO WAY the Rose Bowl takes Georgia … way too much tradition in that bowl game to take a program like Georgia.
By eddie
November 20, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
no way tech beats uga this weekend!!! they were better with ball!! and that is sad
By RJS
November 20, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
Boise State will beat Hawaii so Hawaii won’t be in the BCS equation- back to the drawing board Mr. College Football.
By XL Dawg
November 20, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
By athensdawg
November 20, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
weedeaters falling from the sky? …that is the funniest thing I have heard for a while.
uga fans…take some advice from a die hard dawg fan who attends EVERY GAME EVERY YEAR…you all sound like the chicago cubs around the end of august…if st louis loses to milwaukee, and the moon is in the third phase of jupiter, WE GO TO THE WORLD SERIES!!!
be men about it dawg people…we got our butts kicked by UT and USC and will take what we can get. I remember dawg people complaining about playing a “weak” WVU team a few years ago….now we are complaining of playing a team in a bowl that we don’t even have an invitation to…give me a break.
very few people writing in this blog were probably alive when June Jones III was coming off the bench for the oft-injured steve bartkowski. I hope the guy goes undefeated and wins his bowl game…unless he plays georgia.
when you can’t take care of business yourself, you have no business talking smack to anyone else. nuff said.
By mor-eno please
November 20, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Beat Tech and let the rest work itself out. Lose to Tech and we never hear the end of it. Cmon Dawgs,beat the Techies this weekend!!!!!
By 6NAROW
November 20, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
GS Eagle…don’t worry, you’re beating is coming next year. Sorry you weren’t accepted to UGA but get over it.
By bcfan
November 20, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Uh, doesn’t anyone remember that Boston College beat VA Tech just a few weeks ago, in the rain, in the last 2:30, at VT?? VT may beat VA this weekend to make it to the ACC Championship, but BC is going to beat VT again and will end up at the Orange Bowl. GO BC!
By Wake up the Echoes
November 20, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Where’s the Irish?
By Happy to be a Jacket
November 20, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
to athensdawg, I appreciate your being humble, it is rare within the dawg nation. I could actually enjoy a good rivalry with you but please don’t be too humble as I use the Tech/Ga game and some of these vents as an example to my teens of how rude, ugly, and arrogant UGA fans get. UGA fans are the best teachers of how NOT to behave. Go Jackets!
By Not so hot
November 20, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
What is with this idea that UGA is the hottest team in the country? Five wins since the UT humiliation, including one of the quality variety against Florida. Meanwhile Illinois has four wins since a 10 point loss to Michigan, including beating the No. 1 team (Ohio St.) on the road. I’ll concede UGA is the hottest team in the state. For now.
By dawg man
November 20, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Eagle Fan and helpme….if you don’t get help at Charter get help somewhere. There is no reason to think that the bees will pull an upset. there is a culture off losing on the flats that won’t change.
By Puh-leeze
November 20, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Happy to be Jacket, what did you say to your teens about Tech fans throwing things at Boston College players this year? There weren’t any Georgia fans in attendance for you to blame big guy.
Not so hot, maybe its because Georgia plays in the SEC and Illinois plays in the Little 10. Nobody respects that conference anymore, hence the disparity. Ohio State clearly wasn’t the No. 1 team in the country. Just an overrated fraud that cakewalked through a patsy schedule, much like last year.
By FloweryBranchDawg
November 20, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Its amazing how all of these Tech-Mites come out of the wood work when they are about to play UGA, but for some reason they scurry back where they came from on Sunday after the game. I dread going to a game at that “High School” stadium they call Bobby Dodd. But i guess the good thing about it, it will have a lot of RED & Black in it!! Go Dawgs!!
By TROJAN PRIDE
November 20, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
The TROJANS WELCOME ANYONE FROM THE SEC! COME OUT WEST! WE ARE READY! FIGHT ON!
By Mikey
November 20, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Special K and the Dawgs beat Tech this week and then sit back and see what happens….
By War Eagle
November 20, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
There was a terrible disaster in the Bama family last night. Siran Stacy was a great running back for Alabama 1989-91, # 1 draft selection and a family man . He lost his wife and four children in a car wreck , Stacy is in the hospital. According to Auburn forum, all Auburn family are sadden by this horrible tragedy, our prayers and sorrow goes out to Stacy and his one surviving child. Hopefully both schools can come together Saturday for donations and a tribute to Stacy.
By Karin
November 20, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY
By Big Boy
November 20, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
TO JIMBO JONES: DIDN’T THEY TEACH YOU TO ADD AT TECH? OH, SORRY FORGOT ABOUT REGGIE, OBVIOUSLY YOU BOTH MISSED THAT CLASS!
By gdawginkalamazoo
November 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Yeah Tony,
IF we beat Tech and UT beats LSU in the title game. Why wouldn’t we still be considered for a BCS bowl over an LSU team that: 1) lost to Kentucky 2) lost to a 3 loss UT team and 3) DOESN’T HAVE A COACH BECAUSE IF MILES LOSES TO UT HE WILL BE ON I-75 HEADING TO ANN ARBOR BEFORE ANY BOWL GAME. He wants the NC this year. If UT beats him he is in his closet dusting off the U of M jacket and hat.
By Happy to be a Jacket
November 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Puh-leeze, I told them it was poor sportsmanship and if I ever caught them acting like that it would be the last game they went to until they paid for there own. You miss the point though, every team has it’s far side, it’s just that it appears UGA has a much higher percentage than others. How do we get back to the game being a clean, fun rivalry without the sarcastic, biting, tone it has taken? This is not an election, it’s a sport. enjoy - and Go Jackets!
By chase
November 20, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
All are good scenarios EXCEPT
If TENN beats LSU in the SEC Title game it WOULD NOT BE LSU still going to a BCS bowl!!
Here’s why
If UGA wins this weekend but doesn’t go…They’ll be at least #4 or #5 in the BCS Standings after the Championship games b/c of process of elimination!!!
LSU would be #1 BUT losing to a 20th ranked TENN team would drop them well behind GEORGIA and the BCS at large would then be UGA NOT LSU
If Georgia wins but doesn’t go to the title game They are going to the BCS BOWL NO MATTER WHAT!!!
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Tony, of all the math you did on these picks I’m surprised you had enough left in you to write the article. Like the first guy on the blog said, it’s an awful lot of work to have to turn around and redo on Monday after everything has changed.
You might want to consider, I know you and the rest of the national media doesn’t want to think about it but it is still possible that LSU isn’t the best team in the country. They could still lose to Arkansas and if they don’t they could still get beaten by Tennessee/Georgia.
With the Les Miles rumors and you media hypes drinking the kool-aid LSU might be starting to believe they don’t even have to play. It’s certainly as probable if not more probable that LSU gets beat in one of their 2 remaining games. Arkansas has nothing to lose and a TN/GA opponent has everything to prove. I see LSU going down somewhere.
But for this week it’s DAWGS all the way. Over the Bugs by 17+
GO DAWGS
By noyellowinthisblood
November 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
Happy, I don’t know what Dawg fans you have been interacting with. The ones I do have a little fun with opposing fans, but always in a friendly way. If you want to truly see rude and disrepectful fans go to a game in Morgantown and have some batteries thrown at you.
By Brian P.
November 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
If the Dawgs lose to Tech on Saturday, they’d deserve no better than the Emerald Bowl. No wait, that covetted bowl has Tech’s name slated in already. Also, if Kentucky can pull out a win over Tennessee on Saturday, LSU had better get ready for a Dawg-Fight. And a Georgia win over #1 LSU might allow us to jump into the #2 spot for a spot at the national championship.
By athensdawg
November 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
happy…
are you talking about an episode of mr. rogers, or southern college football? they wrote a book about ga vs. ga tech called ‘clean ole fashioned hate.’
you should be so lucky as not to deal with the fans from lsu and florida. i even had kentucky people talking smack to me in sanford stadium last weekend. it goes with the territory. buck up, little camper.
if you win once in a while, all the idiots will go away and go home quiet. unfortunately, that hasn’t happened and UGA’s success has caused a ton of people to jump on the bandwagon…then they go to one game a year and act like idiots.
get a new coach and win some games… yall should have hired ken whisenhunt when you had the chance.
By noyellowinthisblood
November 20, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
ARdawg, I like it.
By Stephen
November 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Calm down PHIL!!! OU will lose to Okie State and Texas will beat aTm and will face Kansas in San Antonio which happens to be 75 mile south of Austin and Texas will be Kansas in a close game. Everyone forgets OU backdoor last year when Texas lost there last two games dejavu .
By The Buckeyes
November 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Al Right Karin!
The SEC is so overrate! Florida is the only SEC team with guts to play a top team outside the conference! lets see who the SEC teams play because every SEC team is tough! Troy, Lousiana Monroe, Louisiana tech,Florida international,Tulane,western carolina,arkansas tech,Tennessee tech! Why is Auburn ranked 25th with 4 losses. I guess your should be ahead of South Florida who beat Auburn on their home turf!
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
noyellowinthisblood
Thanks guy! It’s quite possible I’m the numbnut and don’t know football but LSU has won too many squeakers. Their defense is good (not great) just good. The offense has moments of greatness with a mediocre QB. I just don’t see them as the best in the country. I did think so earlier in the year but after seeing them play numerous times I changed my mind. Loaded with talent and deficient at coach.
Brian P
I like you line of thought but no way do the Dawgs even beating LSU jump into a #2 spot over one loss teams. Just ain’t gunna happen
By Brian P.
November 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Jimbo J.-You were one of the many that had your little pansy fingers crossed that Fl. would flatten us. UGA will be competitive and may realistically win against LSU. For the reord, TECH is going to a Christmas bowl because they’ve had the sh’t beat out of them on too many occasions already this year with another one coming this Saturday.
By noyellowinthisblood
November 20, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
The Buckeyes, sour grapes? You reference UF because they laid the wood to you last year and now a coach that couldn’t win enough at UF (the Zooker) just took another title shot from you. BOO HOO
By puppydawg
November 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Hey Happy Jacket, the day that Va. Tech was in town, the sign that GT fans hung over I-75 advising of the coming of another massacre was possibly the most tasteless and classless act in the history of college football. And GT fans refer to a touchdown celebration as classless. Hypocrites!
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Buckeyes
Whom might I ask is this big tough out of conference opponent that Ohio ST played?? Kent ST?, Akron? Miami of Ohio?
By gdawginkalamazoo
November 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Happy to be a Jacket, I am Happy to be a Bulldog. Buy you a beer? See that’s not so hard. You should see some of the post your people bring onto here. The higher percentage that you talk about? Even a Bulldog knows that the percentage of extreme fans in 92,000 seat stadium will be greater than that of say a 40,000 seat stadium. I hate that that is the case because I hate obnoxious fans as much as the next person. I think you should be able to go to any stadium in the country and enjoy watching your team play and cheer them on w/o being hassled. Now the blog is a fun place to take potshots w/o getting crude or personal.
By Not so hot
November 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
You can easily disregard the strength of the Big whatever it is this week, but it’s also very debatable whether UGA’s win streak - that includes Troy - qualifies it as the hottest team in the country. I say Illinois has a more impressive streak, I don’t care how much SEC apologists think Kentucky and Vandy are legit teams. They’re not terrible, but that’s about it. And then there’s Troy. But The Buckeyes just don’t know football. Florida is not the SEC school that took on the toughest out of conference opponent (I assume that blogger means a mediocre FSU team and not Troy, Western Ky. or Fla. Atlantic). I’ll have to check today’s rankings but I think LSU’s domination against Virginia Tech early this year is the SEC’s out of conference claim to fame so far.
By noyellowinthisblood
November 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Zoo, unfortunately that kind of thinking makes too much sense for most fans. I’ll be at the game Sat. so hopefully even an opposing fan can get their frre pizza and coke with a ticket. Dawgs 42 Yech 17
By The Buckeyes
November 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Let’s see! How many times have UGA beat Florida in the past 20 years! 17-3! Did you ever beat Zooks team! No!No! UGA you are not Florida! U are a team that does not compete for the NC championship! But take heart you will compete next year! Then the buckeyes will mash you in the championship game! Go THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
By Happy to be a Jacket
November 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
gdawginkalamazoo - I like your thinking and I’d be happy to buy you a beer! Your correct about the percentages and your right about watching your team play without being hassled! Coming to the game? I’ll be the one with my beautiful twin daughters in gold and black with my wonderful dawg husband in black and red. :)
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
The Buckeyes
Is there a particular reason why you only wish to consider the last 20 years of the GA/FL match up when they have been playing for almost 100 years? You might want to check your history. Do they teach history at OSU? The Dawgs beat Zook his last year at Florida. I believe (without looking it up) that was 2004. One could only surmise your bitterness because you know in your heart, a middle of the road SEC team sent your Buckeyes away with your hat in your hand last year. The Buckeyes are 0-9 versus the SEC. Why not accept that other invarible fact of history?
By noyellowinthisblood
November 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
In the past twenty years our record against UF sucks, great example. Who doesn’t know that. Who has more SEC championships since Richt became coach? What is OSU’s all time record against UGA straight up?
By Chuck
November 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
Look, everyone plays there cup-cake teams mixed in with there schedules … EVERYONE does it. But it seems to me that OSU and the rest of the Big Ten does it a whole lot more than the SEC does it. Come on, when you have 10 of 12 teams with 1 more on the bubble of being bowl eligible, what does that say about your conference. And not too mention that 6 of those teams are above .500 in conference play compared the Big Ten that only has 4 teams in that are above .500. The SEC is the best conference in the land hands down. Go Dawgs
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Happy to be a Jacket
It’s blatantly obvious your husbands genteel Dawg demeanor has rubbed off on you. I guess all you Bugs ain’t so bad. Welcome to the blog. And If I were in attendance Saturday I’d buy you and zoo a beer. Hell, I’d even buy that misinformed The Buckeyes one.
By fletch
November 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
now there’s a shocker…a UGA fan using the word THERE incorrectly…guess you didn’t go to school THERE.
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
It’s still going to be awhile before one can proclaim Illinois an out of conference Powerhouse. Zook has done a great job so far and they look pretty demm good but a Powerhouse? I don’t think so The Buckeyes. Seems your attempting to put some lipstick and rouge on that ugly pig of a loss of yours. It just don’t wash. At this point your Buckeyes are not as good as a 2 loss Illinois and slightly better than a 4 loss Michigan team. Face it guy. they just ain’t that good
By Atlanta Gator
November 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
“The Buckeyes”——Okay, let’s get the facts straight. The Dawgs have beaten the Gators three times in the last eighteen years (i.e. 3 wins in 18 tries, or a win-loss record of 3-15, 3-17). Furthermore, the Dawgs were 1-2 against Ron Zook’s Gators, not 0-3.
Next, by my reckoning, since 1980 (the last year the Dawgs won a MNC), the Buckeyes have played for two national titles and won one; that’s not bad, but not exactly head and shoulders above UGA’s record. BTW, the Gators, you may recall, have won two MNCs and played for a third in that same time frame. (And for the sake of the present discussion, we’ll stick to football and not digress into basketball championships.)
So, don’t get all misguidedly cocky on us. One national title since Woody retired is not exactly setting the world afire.
ARDawg——“Middle of the road SEC team?” Wow. “The Buckeyes” isn’t the only blogger who has gotten a little misguidedly cocky, is he? The 2006 Gators were 8-1 in the SEC, including wins over UT, UGA, LSU and Arkansas. SEC middle of the road is 4-4, not 8-1, my friend. Your kids won this year’s Georgia-Florida game; enjoy it. There’s no need to rewrite last season’s history, too.
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
And then theres fletch. The blog pronunciation nazi
By The Buckeyes
November 20, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
UGA fans! Reality check Florida is just better then you! They have dominated this series for a long time! C’mon we beat Miami in the NC game in 04. Can you stiff a NC game recently! UGA over,over, very overrated!
By the way! I like UGA! But why can’t you beat Florida on a regular basis! You remind me of the John Cooper coached buckeyes who could not get his team up for the biggest games each year. But you are on the right track with Richt!
By Big Dawg
November 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
The Buckeyes
Let’s see! How many times have UGA beat Florida in the past 20 years! 17-3! Did you ever beat Zooks team! No!No! UGA you are not Florida! U are a team that does not compete for the NC championship! But take heart you will compete next year! Then the buckeyes will mash you in the championship game! Go THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
Actually if you go back 20 years that takes you to 1988 and the record actually stands at 15-5. Next The Ohio State University’s all time record against the SEC stands at 0-9 so if I was you I wouldn’t be talking smack to anybody from the SEC. BTW we have tried to schedule home and home games with you and Michigan for years and you have always avoided us. Why is that? Maybe you know that you haven’t competed very well with us as the only time we played in 1993 we beat you.
Go Dawgs
By FLA DAWG
November 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
Dawg Brothers! This KY / UT game is shaping up just the way the UGA / Fla game did. I predicted that one - and even Atlanta Gator said I was wrong. KY has nothing to lose and everything to win. UT is already tight with worry having already lost two games. This is a must win for them or die. In these situations the Vols always die. If I’m wrong then UT deserves to go to Atlanta. If not, then UT has no room to say the Dawgs backed into the SECC game.
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator
No need to get your pannies all in a wad there bucko!. When I referred to your Gators as middle of the road I was referring to the Gators this year. That was wrong on my part and I apologize. Correct, they were 8-1 last year. Wasn’t 5 of those wins by a TD or less? I give credit where credit is due and the Gators were a good team last year but certainly not a head and shoulders above the rest of the conference.
I said that to say this, a good but not great SEC team beat OSU like red-headed step children. That was the point I intended to make.
By Your schoolmarm
November 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Fletch isn’t the only reader who discounts the opinions of people who write in broken English. I wish those people would go back to the country they came from. And, ARdawg, written mistakes aren’t “pronunciation” problems. Shouldn’t some of you be studying for your middle school English exams instead of arguing which conference has the more legit 5-6 teams?
By Big Dawg
November 20, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Right now the only game that concerns me is GT. We had better be ready to play for they will be leaving it all on the field trying to salvage their season and Chan’s job. All this other stuff about this scenario or that scenario is nice to contemplate and talk about by fans but the only thing that matters is our next game.
Go Dawgs
By ARdawg
November 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
schoolmarm
I suppose if you were on an internet blog where the topic is correct grammar, pronunciation and spelling your post might warrant some merit. But this isn’t and you don’t. Need I remind you this is a blog where college football is the discussion and specifically, Georgia Bulldog discussion. Chuck made a good contribution to the blog and you anal retentive posers have to make an issue of his education, lack of or where he received it. Don’t you have some spotted owls to save somewhere?
By Atlanta Gator
November 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Hmmm. Typos abound. That’s “3-15, not 3-17.”
By puppydawg
November 20, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this
The Buckeyes, even though we still have a 10 game lead in the overall series record vs. UF, we cannot deny that our track against them for the last 20 years or so has been less than stellar. However, we like to think that we’ve turned the corner and will be the dominant SEC team for years to come. Only time will tell. It is clear that the reason that you are so enamored with the Gators is because they whacked your miserable, over rated a*******es last year. The truth is, as several Gator players said afterward, at least 5 SEC teams would have won that game. It was true then and it is still true today.
By GAYTURDBOY
November 20, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
No that 2 in 4. How bout that Gayturds…
By davidhasselhoff
November 20, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
I’ll just lay on the floor eat my sandwich in a drunken stuper, so wake me when it’s game time OK.
By Your schoolmarm
November 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
ARdawg, I’ll do the lecturing around here. And you could use some lecturing. “Were” on an internet blog where the topic is….” Verb agreement, young man. It’s sweeping the nation. Now wash up for dinner and keep your elbows off the table. Sheesh, kids these days.
By justadawg
November 20, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
let’s just beat tech!
By jim
November 20, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
Don’t worry about all those ifs. Take care of Tech and the rest will take care of itself. Go dawgs
By Atlanta Gator
November 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
puppydawg——Notwithstanding the source, I’ve always thought that the “five SEC teams could have beaten Ohio State” statement was a bit of hyperbole and rhetorical piling on the Buckeyes in return for the way a large percentage of the sports media gave the Gators no chance of winning in advance of the BCS game actually being played. IMHO, and I believe realistically, I think the ‘06 LSU team would have beaten OSU; maybe ‘06 Arkansas, too; but probably not the ‘06 UT or UGA teams. The ‘06 Auburn Tigers? Well, that depends on which of the ‘06 Auburn teams showed up, but probably not because I believe the OSU offense was capable of scoring a lot more points than they showed in the BCS game against Florida, and on a bad day, Auburn’s defense couldn’t have held OSU under 24-27 points.
By di
November 20, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
No matter what the Dawgs do after this past Saturday;just want to say what a great season! We were counted out but the perseverance from the whole team proved otherwise! I’m proud of you GA DAWGS!
By cooter11
November 20, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this
Tony, this type blog can be hazardous…just look at the increased intracranial pressure you caused for many dog fans!
But it probably will fade soon after Tn whips Ky. The only way they come back to Atl is for the chicken bowl.
By Fred
November 20, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this
The only thing wrong with your picks is Kansas will win out.
By AtlantaVol
November 20, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this
UT leads UGA all-time in football, basketball & baseball. You can have the gymnastics title! I know, I know. You guys will win the rematches if we played again the following week.
By AtlantaVol
November 20, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this
Trojan Pride, the puppies will not be coming out to play you because they haven’t been west of the Mississippi in over 50 years except for a bowl game. Richt himself said the game is too dangerous. Now how can that be if you are truly “the hottest team in the country” and everybody else is afraid to play you? He said South Fla. is too dangerous. I do see that you have Ga. Southern next year though.
By Tdog
November 20, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this
GA woulden’t have beat tenn the next week, but we would this week.Yall are a three point dog to Kentucky.By the way GA just beat Kentucky.The high national ranking says it all.
By jack
November 20, 2007 8:38 PM | Link to this
lets say kansas loses to missouri, kentucky beats tennesse, Uconn beats WVU, Missouri loses the big 12 championship,hawaii loses to boise st, and georgia creams tech, and then georgia beats lsu, are we in the championship