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Breaking down the conference races

It’s Thanksgiving Week so let’s change things up a bit. Here is a quick look at the major conference races with two weeks to go:

ACC: Boston College (9-2) is in the conference championship game as the Atlantic Division winner regardless of how it fares Saturday against Miami. The winner of Saturday’s game between Virginia Tech (9-2) and Virginia (9-2) in Charlottesville will be the Coastal Division winner and provide the opposition in Jacksonville.

SEC: LSU (10-1) has clinched the Western Division but still has a tough game with Arkansas on Friday in Baton Rouge. If Tennessee (8-3) wins at Kentucky on Saturday, the Vols will also be in Atlanta. If Tennessee loses, Georgia will face LSU at the Georgia Dome on Dec. 1.

BIG EAST: The winner of Saturday’s game between West Virginia (9-1) and Connecticut (9-2) at Morgantown will clinch the championship.

BIG TEN: Ohio State (11-1) won the championship and at least a trip to the Rose Bowl by beating Michigan 14-3.

BIG 12: The winner of Saturday’s game between Kansas (11-0) and Missouri (10-1) in Kansas City will clinch the North Division. It’s much more complicated in the South. Oklahoma (9-2, 5-2) can clinch by beating Oklahoma State on Saturday in Norman. But if Oklahoma loses and Texas (9-2, 5-2) beats Texas A&M on Friday, then the Longhorns win the division. If Oklahoma and Texas both lose, there will be a three-way tie with Oklahoma State (6-5, 4-3) and the highest ranked team in the BCS wins the division.

PAC-10: Arizona (9-1, 6-1), Oregon (8-2, 5-2), and Southern Cal (8-2, 5-2) are all in the mix with two games left. Arizona State is alone in first place and can go to the Rose Bowl (at least) by beating Southern Cal at home on Thursday and Arizona on Dec. 1 in Phoenix. Without QB Dennis Dixon, who suffered a knee injury, it will be hard for Oregon to win its last two games with UCLA and Oregon State. But if the Ducks do, and there is a three-way tie with Arizona State and Southern Cal, the Ducks win the tiebreaker because they beat both during the regular season. Southern Cal needs two wins against Arizona State and UCLA plus a loss by Oregon.

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By FLA DAWG

November 19, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Dawg Fans Alert! An Auburn buddy of mine swears that if the UT Vols lose to Ky and The Dawgs beat GT and LSU they will stand a very good chance of playing for the National Championship! Yep, it could happen.

UNCHAIN THE YARD DAWGS ‘N LET ‘EM EAT!

By Bamadon

November 19, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Good luck to the Kentucky Wildcats when they play UT saturday!! If bama does get it head out of it’s bottom, the cow college will beat the crap out the crimson tide. Alabama let the SEC down for that so-called performance saturday!! Coach Saban has a hugh challenge to turn around this sorry-a* program!! Go DAWGS

By Eric1

November 19, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

How ‘bout dem Warhawks from Louisiana Monroe! War Damn Hawks!!! How sweet it is!!!

By Eric1

November 19, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

“A hugh challenge”, bamadon? Is that a Hugh Nall challenge you’re talking about? War Eagle!!!!

By Bamadon

November 19, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Hope the bulldogs beat the yellow jackets like a red headed step child. Coach Saban has a hugh challenge to rebult the crimson tide. Bama played like a high school team saturday!! Vandy football just to be the laughning stock of the SEC, bama get’s that award!! If BAMA has any guts left and heart,they better show up saturday against the cow college!! I am about ready for a straight jacket after writing this stupid blog!! GO DAWGS AND ROLL TIDE!!

By Dave

November 19, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Can KY beat UT? Absolutely, especially if TN plays like they did against Vandy. Truth be told, TN beat the snot our of UGA earlier. Anoter truth is that UGA isn’t nearly the same team today. UGA would win by two touchdowns if they played again, but that’s water under the bridge. UT has a habit of playing their best when it matters most, while stinking up the joint when it’s just another game. Giving up 59 points to FL, getting pile drived b Bama and losing bad to Cal does not make for good expectations. UT is clearly the 4th best team in the SEC, but the record is what it is. Against ARK, TN could put 9 in the box and not worry about the pass. KY has a much more balance offense and that is where TN has the biggest problems. When they can’t defend JUST the pass or JUST the run, UT falls apart like a cheap model airplane. But just because I want KY to win so badly, TN will probably pull a performance like they did against UGA. Gawd, I hate Tennessee……much worse than I do FL and equally as much as Tech.

By Eric1

November 19, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Look who can’t spell “huge” calling Auburn, THE university of Alabama, a “cow college”….you need more than a straight jacket pal. War Eagale!!!

By Bamadon

November 19, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Hey Auburn Fans, Get your best Alabama jokes ready this week. I need to laugh this week, because I have been cussing and crying since saturday!! I will be cussing if bama does beat the cow college. ROLL TIDE

By KYknowsTN

November 19, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

The 22 loss streak to tN ends this weekend. You can count all the stats and history, all of which has no bearing on this game. KY is a good football team that ran into the hottest team in the SEC and maybe the nation last week. UGA’s defense is HUGE, despite their fans insistance to the opposite. TN is a very average football team that is squeaking by the likes of SC and Vandy. Get ready for the Vowels crying in the streets. I love it when Neyland is quiet as a church after a game. Their fans look like their IQ when their mouths drop open and expose all 4 teeth.

By Bamadon

November 19, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

TO ERIC1 GO SCREW YOURSELF!!!!!!

By Oldtimer

November 19, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Hey Eric1….people in glass houses…’Eagale’?

By FLA DAWG

November 19, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

The Wildcats have everything going for them against the Vols - Homefield Advantage, A Loose, Nothing To Lose Attitude, The Support Of Most of the SEC Teams & Fans and I believe a Better Team than UT. I hope the Cats will play 60 minutes of well executed ball. If they do - they win. But if the Vols win they deserve the trip to Atlanta. We (Dawgs) had our chances and blew it against SC and Tenn.

By Mikey

November 19, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

How about poor ol Vandy - a missed field goal away from going bowling…

I like UK over the Vols because it’s at their house and they are a very balanced team. The Vols know what’s at stake, so they will probably come out tight and UK will be loosey goosey. Go Cats !

By Pago Pago

November 19, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Word on the street….GT coaches will only dress 20 players for the UGA game. The rest of the player will have to dress themselves!

By The Rifleman

November 19, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

C’mon Doggies!!!! If anyone knows how big a win over Vandy is, it’s the Georgia Bulldogs. The way those classless clowns jumped all over the “V” in Nashville….I just assumed it was real life victory for David over Goliath.

Bulldog fans - You are kidding yourself if you think Phil and Company lose in Lexington. Unless you forgot, Kentucky has lost 4 out of its last 6 games. This IS your father’s Kentucky team.

By Sammy Kershaw

November 19, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Hey Eric What is an Eagale? Nice post douche bag!

Dont step on any cow patties this weekend

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Dave, that is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. There is only one way to determine who is the better team and that is to actually play each other. We did and UT pounded GA. Why would you now say that GA would win a rematch? I heard the same garbage after TN won last year in Athens. You got your rematch and we won again. Sorry, but that’s the way it is. If UT beats KY this week they deserve to go play LSU. If they don’t then GA deserves to go. Please don’t just be another delusional fan.

By George P. Burdell

November 19, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Tony are you still a strong buy on Nick Saban and his first year?

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Dave, was that a supposedly balanced offense that UT stopped when GA came to town?

By Dave

November 19, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

AtlantaVol, I’m not denying that you won by a large margin back then. On that day, you were the better team and UGA never showed up. But UGA is a different team now. The media aknowledges it, the polls acknowledge it and especially FL and Bamma aknowledges it. By your logic, you would still pick Stanford over SoCal, Colorado over Oklahoma and every other instance where a top 10 team lost to an unranked tean. You were better then….but you’re not better now. UGA played one bad game, against TN. No one denys that. But TN has been flat blown out in it’s 3 x losses and two of them, UGA beat. South Carolina drug UT up and down the field in the second half. Does 503 yeards of offense for South Carolina sound about right? A brain cramp in the OT cost them the game. UGA killed itself in the early part of the season. Now, we’re killing the opposition. You’ll probably beat KY and then get slaughtered by LSU in the title game. UGA will head to the Sugar Bowl and UT will once again land in the Chic-fil-a Bowl or any other bowl that will take a 4 x loss team. You know why? UGA is a much better team than TN at this point in the season…and everyone knows it.

By Dorsey Hill

November 19, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

To all you Bama fans out there. I know how you must feel. Its tough to take a loss like that. I remember when we lost to….wait a minute…we’ve never lost to a team like that, ever. I mean we’ve lost to Vandy, we’ve lost to Tech, but never to a Sun Belt Conference team. That’s horrible. That’s pathetic. That’s embarrassing.

You paid 4 million for 6-6? Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

You can’t buy your way out of mediocrity Bama.

Saban also lost to UAB at home while at LSU. His winning percentage is less than Ray Goff’s. Look it up. Good investment Bama.

I guess you fear the index finger on the left hand this week, right? Damn that’s sad. In a few years Auburn is gonna have to take their shoes off to show you “how many.”

By Sammy Kershaw

November 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Dorsey Hill you dont pay for a 1 year turnaround. And UGA invented mediocrity by the way.

Saban has more titles than UGA does in the last 20 years. Look it up

By baloney

November 19, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Dave, does it occur to you that UT muight be better today than they were on Oct. 6th against UGA? Ut is actually better today than they were when they gave up 1 TD against UGA (one other at garbage time)Also, do you rget that UT drug SC up and down the field in the first half of that game. True SC came back and ran all over TN. but then again UGA could NOT, I repeat UGA COULD NOT come back on UT like SC did.Also UT has lost last to Bama several games ago. UGA lost several games ago to UT. I think its fair to say that both UT and UGA have improved.I would not bet the house on LSU if they do in fact play TN in the SECCG.

By hop

November 19, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

there is nothing like the spirit of college football and especially the SEC. I really enjoy reading all the posts with all the passion and love for one’s team. that is what makes living in the south very special.

it has been another great year in the SEC and hopefully, the dawgs will make it to the championship,but if they don’t WHAT A GREAT COMEBACK WITH THE FUTURE FULL OF PROMISE.

By LargeOrange

November 19, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

The only reason uga fans hate UT is because they lost when it counted. It kills them that a mediocre UT is going to go to Atlanta. Georgia fans, don’t hate UT just win on the field.

By Lol...Tutorsee...

November 19, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

I get a kick out the SEC and teams like UT. Everyone in the world knows that in college football, ANY team can win on ANY day. I bet if UT was to play Bama again and at UT, they would win. I think I remember that UT was hurting for a win to keep their coach when UG came to town and they played like they had never played before this year or have since. I would probably “bet the house” that UG could beat UT if they played again even at UT. They are playing the better football right now.

Looking forward to the Clemson game this weekend…hopefully we can make Spurrier throw his visor around (something I believe UG had a hard time doing) after they can’t stop Spiller and Davis.

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Lest anyone has forgotten…The Gators CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT win anything in the SEC this year. Way to go Dawgs in driving two stakes in the Gator Nations Heart!!! BTW UT fans… Your Welcome!

By FloridaAL

November 19, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

LargeOrange, actually TN is pretty much despised by the entire SEC. Nice showing in Gainesville, by the way….and in Tuscaloosa. Vandy all but won the game (how far is 3 inches on a field goal) and SC had you pounded (nice OT, SC). Trust me….TN is like Rosie O’Donnell, no one likes you unless you’re related. That pretty much includes the entire trailer park state of TN.

By General Neyland

November 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Dawg fans… woulda shoulda coulda rah rah rah. That’s the new slogan of Dawg football fans. Well, you should be okay with your second place East finish …most picked you for third, as usual. I must be a bit odd to be hoping for a Kentucky football win…

By Mikey

November 19, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

UT, you beat us fair and square.

If I were you I wouldn’t be worried about us GA fans ragging on you- I’d fear the Cats. They are at home and they have a little bit of an attitude, and last time I looked, UT ‘s road record this year in the conference isn’t sparkling…

GO Dawgs !

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Actually, GA and Fl fans are the most disliked in the conference. Always have been, FloridaAl. And I can tell you there are just as many rednecks in FL & GA as in TN, you cutoff bue jeaned redneck.

By Dorsey Hill

November 19, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Sammy,

He loses to La. Monroe and you still defend him? What does he have to do, pizz on Bear’s grave before to take your toungue out of his butt?

Its not my fault that you paid 35 million dollars for a coach whose winning percentage is less that Ray Goff’s so don’t get mad at me.

BTW: if 70 wins in 7 years is mediocre then I’m loving it.

The last time you came to Athens it was 31-0 at half. Do you think Saban will be able to improve on that? I bet you paid 35 million just so it would be 21-0.

By Big Orange Chokefest

November 19, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Tennessee is the biggest choke artist in the SEC. Remember those national title hopes in ‘01 Vols fans? Doh!!! What about that #3 preseason ranking in ‘05? Doh!!! When the pressure is on Tennessee melts like buttah. They will lose to Kentucky.

By sonny

November 19, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Is there any way that we can loan Brandon Coutu to the wildcats this weekend?

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Dave, that logic won’t fly. All I heard from my Dawg friends after last year’s UT win was that it was a fluke. Now all I’m hearing after you have beaten FL & Auburn is that it was a fluke again. The polls and your opinion are only subjective. The only objective way to determine the better team is on the field and UT beat the Dawgs badly. You might have a point if we won by a field goal with a minute to go but there was no doubt who was the better team that day. And there are no do-overs. UT fans would love to play FL and Cal again now that we have won 7 of our last 8 and improved since those games. AND it would be nice to get an obviously injured Tebow.

By Sammy Kershaw

November 19, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

It takes time to build on the crap Shula left. Probation hurts, and UGA doesnt, hasnt and wont win championships. I am not mad at you and but Saban does have more championships than you do in the last 20 years. deal with it.

By joe

November 19, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Here we go again, the pups get it handed to them by TN, but now suddenly their fair weather fans think they are God’s gift to SEC football. Remember you also barely squeeked by Vandy…so all you dog fans shut the heck up as you are NOT going to the SEC title game. 35-14…enough said…SHUT UP.

By Mikey

November 19, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

See what I mean ? All this yapping from the orange and completely ignoring UK.

Better get your rest. You’re gonna need it.

By Yo Joe...

November 19, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Don’t count your chickens before they hatch! You guys still have to play away from home against a really good UK team who has beaten teams they weren’t supposed to beat in their house. Stop gloating to the UG fans who would love to reverse the clocks for a rematch…that game is over with, UT won. I would worry MORE about the UK game…it is far from being a done deal. Not only does UT not fair well away from Knoxville, but UK almost beat you guys at your house last year. Win your game and then you can gloat all you want over UG. Last thing you want to do is gloat now, then lose to UK and see that team that you “whipped” go out and play in your championship match. You guys are starting to sound like Georgia Tech with all their importance on the UG game. Is it your season if you beat UG or not?

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Correction Gen Neyland. Dawgs will tie UT for first in SEC East(unless UT loses this weekend) but will lose head to head tiebreaker to determine who advances to ATL. For all the vitrol I am certain that every team in the country, save for KS & Hawaii, can look back and play the what if regarding particular games during the season. That’s what makes college football so great. Every game is a playoff game and you better come prepared to play whether it’s USC, UF, LSU, OSU or ND, Duke, App State,& UL-Monroe. You look at the world through orange colored glasses. I through Red colored. Hard to imagine as a Dawg fan, and doubt any true Dawg fan would believe that UGA would beat Bama, UF and Aub in the same year and sit here having to pull for KY to decide who goes to ATL. (I did predict at the first of the year that KY would come into play deciding who would, but never would have envisioned this scenario). Good luck at KY, but don’t beleive just because UT has beaten KY 22 straight years that your gonna go up there and roll your helmet on the field and get a W. If you are honest you would rewind to last year and know that UT was extremely fortunate to escape the Cats at home!

By Mike

November 19, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

I enjoy GA fans having to depend, cheer, and hope for another team to beat TN since their team could not. That is what it boils down to. If GA could have beaten SC or TN, they would not be in this position. And if TN could have beaten FL or Bama, they would not be in this position.

If memory serves correct, it took GA a final FG to beat Vandy this season (which afterwards they celebrated on the logo like the won the NC) so I think TN’s game against Vandy is not too bad then. Like GA, a win is a win.

By Stats Nerd (but not a Bug)

November 19, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Winning % of “elite” SEC coaches:

Urban Meyer: UF, .811, Overall .821

Mark Richt: Georgia/overall .787

Phillip Fulmer: Tenn./overall .767

Steve Spurrier: UF, SC .771, ovl .745

Les Miles: LSU, .865, overall .698

Nick Saban: UA, LSU, .720, ovrll .672

Tommy Tuberville: AU, .772, ovl .660

Some of these coaches have yet to coach 100 games (Meyer, Richt, Miles) so it’s hard to evaluate them against coaches who have had a lot more time to either win or lose, but this gives an interesting insight into who has actually done what in the SEC without regard to reputation or hype.

Looking at these numbers, it can be argued that Spurrier and Fulmer have had very similar careers and are coaching equals (.771, .767 winning percentages, respectively), despite a disparity in reputation and hype. That’s if you assume that Spurrier’s well of talent at Florida (exceptional) and S.C. (good), combined, roughly equal Fulmer’s talent at Tennessee (usually very good, some years exceptional).

You can also argue that Tuberville has had a superior career to Nick Saban at this point once you compare their records at like programs (Saban at LSU and UA, TT at AU), despite what seems to be a difference in their reputations (largely media created). Although Richt (13-1 in ‘02), Saban (13-1 in ‘03), Spurrier (12-1 in ‘96) and Meyer (13-1 in ‘06) have come close, only Tuberville (13-0 in ‘04) and Fulmer (13-0 in ‘97) can claim a perfect season as an SEC coach (Meyer ran the table with Utah in ‘04 playing a MWC schedule).

It could also be argued that the great situation Les Miles stepped into was created largely by Saban’s success at LSU. The problem with that analysis is that history is full of coaches stepping into great situations and quickly running a great program into the ground and, if anything, LSU has become consistently better under Miles.

Meyer and Miles have great SEC records and Meyer has a great record of winning wherever he coaches, but neither has much time in the conference so the jury is still out.

Richt is now in his 7th year in the conference (and as a head coach) and seems to be on a similar track as Fulmer and Spurrier, i.e. a coach who is building a consistent winner that contends for conference titles and BCS bowl berths on a regular basis. While Georgia is a traditional conference (and, in certain eras, national) power, the Bulldogs had gone 19 years without a conference title when Richt was hired in ‘01, with several losing seasons in the interim.

What the numbers reveal to me is that there is surprising parity among the elite conference coaches and teams, despite a huge disparity in media coverage, reputation and hype. Some coaches seem to be a lot more interesting and “quotable” than others and thus better able to generate excitement around their programs.

By Dorsey Hill

November 19, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I hope that UT loses just so that the 5th or 6th best team in the conference doesn’t get a chance to play for the championship. If you give up 99 points in your 2 biggest SEC road games you really suck it too hard to be SEC East Champs. At least UGA or UF would be given a chance to win the game vs. LSU.

By atlvol07

November 19, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

IF UGA played TN again…UGA wins by 2 TDs? Please. how about if UGA played Florida again…UF wins by 2 TD’s! We can all play that What if game…what you can’t do is replay a beat-down just because your team has gotten better. I forgot…..How bad did the mighty bulldogs beat Vandy by? That was in the Knowshon-Era, so the offense was this NEW and Improved version. I remember the dancing on the V in celebration, but not the final score. It must have been a blowout though.

By mor-eno please

November 19, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

SABAN HAS ONE NC WITH LSU, NOT BAMA THERE GENIUS

By Dave

November 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

atlvol07, yeah…that’s true. It was the game before the we thumped the team that hung 59 points on you and beat you by 39. Wait….that was early in the season….my bad….

By atlvol07

November 19, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Dorsey, I supposed the team that laid down in Knoxville and cried their eyes out deserve to go.

Everyone says UGA is Killing opponents now….Let’s look at that theory…

10/13 at Vanderbilt W 20-17

3-point Miracle win after a LATE turnover

10/27 at #11 Florida W 42-30

Great bulldog win. 1/2 a Tebow, though.

11/03 Troy W 44-34

Late score by Troy…but hardly a Kill

11/10 #18 Auburn W 45-20

This was a beat down,

11/17 #23 Kentucky W 24-13

Not a Kill.

okay, I am not seeing the same thing as you guys. I see the UF game and the Auburn game….where are the others?

By atlvol07

November 19, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Noshow Moreno 13 carries for 30 yards

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Stat Nerd, Your surmise is on point and reflects the importance of Richt’s maturation (and relegation of O play calling) as a Head Coach. He has begun to get the big picture that it is the slight edges (have fun, black jerseys, Soulja Boy, etc.) that make the difference in W’s and L’s. For all the negative of the UT game the silver lining was that Richt realized what was and is truly important and that is bring back the enthusiasm and fun into what the team does. Every team in the SEC has the talent on any given day to beat another team in this conference. It is the small details or edges that now seperate the teams. Earlier this year one of the networks showed a great example of what 4.3 and 4.4 speed means (seperation) in a 30+ yard downfield pass play and the same could be said for the coaches who tap into the mental edges due to the parity of talent. Richt’s new found personality and leadership has definitely caught the eye of several top tier recruits as well ( and even swaying some who have previously commited to another program- watch for Harmon). Again proof of the little edges and what they can mean.

By Dog the Gator Hunter

November 19, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

I’m as big a UGA fan as anyone on here and have no use for the Vols, but all of this talk about LSU rolling over Tennessee in the SECC game is getting kinda old. I’ve always liked LSU (they beat the Gators back when we couldn’t) when they weren’t playing the Dawgs, but they are over-hyped to an annoying degree this year. They’re one play (Auburn) and two inches (4th down play against Florida) from being 8-3 and headed to the Outback Bowl , yet they are regarded as the second coming of the ‘95 Nebraska Cornhuskers. Didn’t they lose to Kentucky not too long ago?

Granted, Tennessee tends to lay an egg outside of Neyland Stadium, but if they get to the title game and play LSU like they did Georgia and Arkansas, they’ll probably win the game or at least make it go down to the wire. The Georgia Dome would be more of a home game for UT than LSU.

What does it say about Georgia when many of its own fans don’t think the team that beat us by three touchdowns in October has even a CHANCE against another conference opponent? With that kind of thinking, Georgia might as well not show up if it gets a chance to play LSU. I don’t buy it. If I’m betting, I’ll take the East team and the points against LSU.

By baloney

November 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Who said for UT not to count their chickens yet? Wasn’t it last week that UGA had already beat LSU in the SECCG?I think UGA has forgot that UT can still possibly win the east. I knew all along that UGA would play the “If UGA played UT now we’d kill em” or “UGA is not the same team as it was in OCT” or UGA had a “bad game that day” and on it goes.

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

atlVol07, Taking your point let’s see… UF beat UT…by some ridiculus amount UT beats UGA Bama beats you by…some ridiculus amount. Bama loses to Miss State. You beat Ark. Ark beats Miss State. Bama loses to UL-Monroe?!!! UL-Monroe wins tiebreaker and goes to ATL!!!

By Stats Nerd (but not a Bug)

November 19, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Thanks quaildawg. I agree about Richt’s maturation as a head coach. Turning over the play calling duties is starting to pay dividends for him. He’s now the head coach of the entire team, rather than just the offensive coordinator with the HC title.

Interesting that Steve Spurrier said he was going to pay attention to what the SC defense was doing this week after some recent meltdowns. Spurrier is not known for paying too much attention to that side of the ball. Maybe being the Head Coach / Play Caller has finally caught up to him as well.

By atlvol07

November 19, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Quaildawg, I didn’t do a a=c thread if you would read. I merely said that saying you would beat TN by 2 TD’s now as stupid as me saying you would lose to Florida by 2 TD’s now. All that matters is the W/L.

Let’s see how much Richt’s maturation appeals to you when Florida returns the favor next year for the classless stunt. Give some credit to the players for the Florida win. I can’t figure Richt out…one week he is p** they are dancing on the field and the next week he promotes it.

By Tyler

November 19, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

To AtlantaVol, Remember also that the Vols had a week off before the UGA game, which means a week to heal and prepare. Now, If you’re really honest with yourself, I think you would be scared to play UGA right now, come on REALLY!! Tenn. came out and hit us in the mouth early and knocked us off balance (similar to 2 boxers)and we were never capable of getting it back together, but now, UGA would wim the game, I belive, as well I think most people believe. But, at the end of the day it is what it is, and you win against Kentucky Sat. you’ll go to the SEC championship game and get beat by LSU. Then the DAWGS will go to a BCS game anyway!

By MtnDawg

November 19, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

atlvol07, Gen Neyland and all other UT folks,

We Dawg fans actually have you all to be thanking. It was that awful display on October 6th that made Richt utter the words, “never again”. Dig up the article, it’s a good read. Unfortunately for you all, you may have created a monster. Maybe woke a sleeping giant. Gloat away on that victory and a possible SEC CG appearance, but beware because crow supposively tastes awful. Gen Neyland - “third, as usual”? In the ‘90’s sure, the last seven years NO! Let’s keep it present day or recent past. Good luck against the ‘Cats. I bet UK hangs a few more than 13 on your boys? We’ll see.

GO DAWGS!!!

By DB Cooper

November 19, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Phat Phil is going down in Lexington. The Ear is going down against Bamer. Both will be gone. The ear to A&M , Phat Phil to Krispy Creme U.

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

atlvol07 Where did I say we would beat UT by 2 TD’s? My point is that every game is what it is. Different, and does not matter the opponent (LSU or App State or UL-Monroe) You better come prepared, protect the ball and play with some emotion. I, naturally, disagree that Richt’s “stunt” was “classless”. He never meant for the celebration to be directed AT the Gators (though a player or two did and got penalized as they should) he wanted the team to celebrate as a unit, period. I would suggest you reflect upon Richt’s own words regarding the two events (Vandy and FL) instead of making a drive-by judgement without fully understanding the situations and their differences. (I’m sure this is a futile request as I don’t fully expect to change your biased opinion on the matter) Yeah I expect UF to come loaded for bear and who knows which players will be available, etc. We shall see. Ah but that is next year.

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Tyler, give me a break. We beat you handily this year and last. We have the better team. Period. I know you guys are happy that you have beaten FL & Auburn in the same season since what, 1982 or 1984? Congrats, but first that is pitiful that these teams have dominated you like that. Secondly, the local media and some delusional fans are hyping you up way too much. I know how this all goes because I went to GA. I’ve been watching it EVERY year since Herschel left. Get with me next week and we will see where it stands. But you’re giving yourself way too much credit to say we are afraid to play you.

By AtlantaVol

November 19, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Tyler, read Barnhart’s article “it’s about the championships, Stupid”. Surely, you don’t want to back into a BCS game instead of being in the SEC Championship game. Good luck against the Hawaii/Boise State winner. It can be Richt calling for a “black out” vs. Boise State calling for a “blue out”.

By Recent Past

November 19, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

MtnDawg, the recent past is actually 2 butt whippings in a row and 3 of the last 4.

By Acral Lick Granuloma

November 19, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

If ga played Fl with T healthy, you guys would not be so hyped about possibly playing lsu. No matter, Tn will beat KFC.

uga…all dressed up…and nowhere to go! LOL!

By Big Orange Joke

November 19, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

AtlantaVol, Tennessee hasn’t been to a BCS bowl in 6 years. You would sell your banjo to have Tennessee “back into” to a BCS bowl. Good luck in the Outback bowl. God knows you’ll need it. Tennessee routinely embarasses itself and the SEC in bowl games.

By quaildawg

November 19, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

BOJ, “Sell your banjo” Now that’s funny I don’t care who you are!!!

By Phat Phil

November 19, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this

I love it when all you Jawja Inbred-Rednecks have to pull for Kentucky just so the Doggies can play in the SEC game. Newsflash…UT handed UGA its butt on a platter back in October…in much the same fashion they will hand the Mildcats thier’s on Saturday. Here is something else you inbred Jawja fans need to consider. UT wins the SEC and goes to the Sugar Bowl. LSU gets the At-Large BCS bid and the UGA Pups end up in Atlanta on Dec. 30 having a wonderful Chicken-Fil-A time!! LMAO!!

By DB Cooper

November 19, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this

When UT get’s their tooth kicked in this Saturday. We will all celebrate down at the Krispy Kreme in honor of Ole Phat Phil. The most under-achieving coaching staff in the SEC. They have all that money and all those top notch facilities and national recruiting we keep hearing about, and can’t win shi*. Phat Phil is mediocre at best Cutcliff saved his job last year however, Ainge has peaked at second rate. UT fans leave during the second quarter if they are getting beat , Ive seen it for years. A bunch of wannabe’s

By John

November 20, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this

TN will beat UK Saturday. Kentucky lost to USC, UGA and Miss.St. and guess what? UT beat each of those teams. UT holds a huge mental advantage over UK and Fulmer know what Joker Phillips and Randy Sanders will try on offense before they know it. Jawga fans are dreaming, hoping and praying, break out the voodoo all you want dawggies, it won’t work. UGA shoulda wore the black jerseys in Knoxville, that way the tire marks wouldn’t have been so noticable! Vols 35 UGAg 14, HAAAAAA!!

By 3volpaul

November 20, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Dawg fans, deep breath!!! Repeat, we could score a TD against Steve Superior! Not! Feel better, now say we trailed Vols 28 to NOTHING -NOTHING-NOTHING! Now you can go back to talking about LSU , while ignoring the Trade School. A loss to Tech would send you to __Bowl! La-Monroe would be good pick! They beat Bamer, which Vols that slayed you couldn’t beat. GET REAL!!!

By Big Dawg

November 20, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

3volpaul and other Vol Fans on this blog,

Me thinks you had better worry about Ole Kentucky rather than insulting Georgia because Kentucky will be out for you. Now as for us and GT the team is only focused on Tech right now because they realize that is the only thing that they control.

BTW if Tennessee takes care of business against Kentucky and goes to the SEC CG then I believe they will give LSU all that they can handle as I believe the East is stronger than the West. But as a Dawg fan I won’t be pulling for you in either game but I will be pulling for you in your bowl game.

Go Dawgs

By gdawginkalamazoo

November 20, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Lot of crap flying around up there. The fact of the matter is you only get one shot at your eastern division opponents. We blew it against UT and SC. Didn’t get off the bus in Knoxville. Didn’t game plan worth a damn against SC. If UT beats KY then more power to you guys you earned it. If KY beats you then we earned our trip to the dome. Here’s to the second happening. As for a re-match? This is the SEC baby anything can happen and this dog wouldn’t bet money on it either way. That’s just the facts and life in the SEC.

DB Cooper, Cutcliff saved Phat Phil’s job last year? Beg your pardon he might have helped but look no closer than the Bulldog’s for saving his job. Two years running now. They are the biggest wins in UT history this millenium. That’s what they have to be “proud” about. That’s their program now. So while that 35-14 hurt put us up to #6/#7 in the country they get to be an underdog to KY this weekend.

By gdawginkalamazoo

November 20, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

IF UT gets to the SECCG then they will give LSU all they can handle. That would be a given. IF firing on all cylinders UT might even roll LSU. Lot of talent at UT right now as it should be. 22 year win streak though and the Cats not being your typical Cats will be a tough game.

By bucky

November 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Forgot all that … anyone NOT seen this photo of Mark Mangino????

http://www.gatoralert.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&page=inline&id=6&catid=1&limitstart=1

By Mike

November 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

gdawginkalamazoo, GA is TN’s 2 biggest wins this millenium? While I know some GA fans have an inflated ego, I would not kid yourself. Are these big wins, yes. But the biggest, I would beg to differ. I would say Michigan (01), Miami (03), Texas A&M (04), Cal (06), FL (04), FL (01) would all stand out more than beating GA. Cut has helped Fulmer tremendously….just look at our offense compared to where it was under Randy Sanders.
Yes, you have one less loss than us so you are expected to be ranked higher so not sure what your point is. I love some of the justification from Dawg fans about TN from Fulmer is lucky, Ainge is not that good, to GA would beat TN this year if they played them again. Like my coach used to say, execuses are like blank, everyone has them and they stink. Bragging rights against another team comes down to head to head matchups.

By allvol

November 20, 2007 10:32 PM | Link to this

Georgia fans are the best. My two favorite phrases from a UGA fan: #1 We are going to win it all this year. #2 Wait until next year.

I just can’t wait until next year when UT extends their streak to 3 years in a row. I wonder if we will put 50 on UGA in Athens next year. Oh thats right UGA fans, I forgot about #2 “Wait until next year”.

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