Mr. College Football

By Golfintiger

October 30, 2007 7:24 AM | Link to this

Why is everyone impressed with OSU beating Penn State? Penn State hasn’t been good since Joe Pa was in his early 60’s and not cursing out people from his car. OSU is merely the tallest midget in the “big” 10. Color me unimpressed…

I hope that LSU wins out and gets a chance to prove, once again, that the SEC is the best conference in the land. Auburn got screwed in 2004 and Florida benefited from that screwing in getting the nod last year and just annihilating what was a much better OSU team. In every year, the SEC champion is better than any team from the “big” 10, “big” 12, or ACC. An OSU-BC matchup would certainly make it the BCS Shampionship.

By David

October 30, 2007 7:55 AM | Link to this

Tony, it’s not that Ohio State is not a good team or that they handled Penn State. It is the fact they play NOBODY so if you only have to get up for one or two games a year, you are going to look good. Look at KY…they played so many tough games it finally got to them…not that they are national champ material… but the Pac 10 and SEC schedules are so difficult that no matter how good a team is they’ll never get through unscathed. You think 6 teams in the SEC or Pac-10 couldn’t be undefeated right now with Ohio State’s schedule?

The Big 12 and Big East are pretenders. ACC stinks.

By BCS is a Joke

October 30, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

If Ohio State wins out and if BC wins out, that should be your national championship game. You would have 2 undefeated teams from BCS conferences. I am sorry but a 1 loss team should not jump an undefeated team. Especially if this one loss team lost to Kentucky who just lost to Miss State!

By lk

October 30, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

FSU beat Alabama, missour beat ole miss, south florida beat auburn Lets see what happens with: Ga Tech vs GA Clemson v SC FSU vs FL Wake Forest vs Vandy I predict a winning ACC record!!!

By lk

October 30, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

Forgot!!! ALSO Cal beat the snot out of Tenn SEC is HYPE

By Brian

October 30, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

^^Naturally, coming from an LSU fan he will deny any kudos to OSU. He knows JACK about this years team and spouts the same old SEC is Dominant crap. So, why have you lost? The SEC is good, but overrated as well. Parity is here to stay. Get off the Big Tens jock

By Bob

October 30, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Brian, I think OSU is good, but here is part of the reason for the skeptisism.

Big Ten Non Conference BCS opponents: Mizzou, Syracuse (2), Iowa State, Oregon, N. Dame (4), Pitt, Duke, Washington and Washington State. Two teams with winning records as of today. Overall record 27-46. Duke and Iowa State each won their only game against Big Ten teams. Two teams ranked in the BCS Top 25.

SEC Non Conference BCS opponents: Mizzou, FSU (2), Kansas State, USF, Oklahoma State, Ga. Tech, Louisville, Va.Tech, West Virginia, Clemson, UNC, California and Wake Forest. Thirteen BCS non-conference opponents and 12 have a winning record. Six currently ranked in the BCS top 25.

I am a huge SEC fan, but I roll my eyes when some of these myopic “fans” claim that no one else plays football. I think the SEC is normally top to bottom the best conference, but the PAC 10 is very good and the Big XII has improved dramatically this year.

On the other hand, some of us get awfully tired of hearing Big Ten fans always complain about our out of conference schedules because those complaints are truly a myth. No, SEC teams don’t go north to Big Ten country in November, but then again, Big Ten teams don’t come south in September either.

The Bucks are very good, but there will some doubt as long as the Big Ten is as down as it is this year and the aftermath of last year’s Florida game is wiped away.

By SEC is your daddy

October 30, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Brian,

Obviously you are suffering from amnesia, b/c one year ago you had a heisman on your team, and one of the better OSU teams in recent years, you were heavily favored to win…you got manhandled. The next best team in your Big 10, is a team that got beat by a Division I-AA squad who lost already in that pee-wee league. As they say, if you can’t beat ‘em, join em. lk, as for this ACC banter…you listed ONE team from your conference that beat ours…As for the remainders of those mentioned games, you will be lucky to get one (I wouldn’t even be safe saying it would be Vandy). You can give all the crap you want but every analyst, magazine, whatever says hands-down SEC is the best in the land…Done. I will give Pac-10 their kudos, especially with the balance that is being created after the recent fall of Troy. PLEASE Big-10 rep, do not come on here talking a big game about your crappy conference…that goes for you to lk (wACC)

By mark

October 30, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Let me get this straight. OSU gets spanked in the NC game, plays 8 non ranked opponents, beats the crap out of an overrated Penn St. team and your trying to make an argument that they deserve to be #1?????? Let’s just say for arguments sake that Penn St. really is a pretty good team (which i don’t think they are). That means that OSU essentially had 8 practice games to get ready for them!!!!! I’m sorry but playing 8 non ranked opponents and then #21 Penn St. is not impressive at all!!! Wisconsin has been a HUGE dissapointment this season and Illinois albeit 7-1 is not even ranked!! So what does that say?? OSU stands to play one tough team this year in Michigan!! It must be nice to play one tough game a year and play for a NC!!!!

By matt

October 30, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

ATTENTION OHIO ST. FANS: YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED A RANKED TEAM IN 8 OUT OF 9 GAMES!!! PENN ST. ONLY GETS RESPECT BECAUSE OF JO PA. YOU HAVE 1 TOUGH GAME ON YOUR SCHEDULE IN MICHIGAN AND THEY LOST TO 1-AA TEAM IN WHAT IS BEING ARGUED AS THE BIGGEST UPSET IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY!!!! YOU PLAY NOBODY!!! DON’T TRY AND JUSTIFY WHY YOU THINK YOU ARE #1. JUST SMILE AND WAVE BECAUSE THEIR IS NO ARGUMENT THAT CAN JUSTIFY THAT PANZY A** ROAD TO THE NC YOU GUYS HAVE!!!! YOU PLAY NOBODY!!!!!!

By Bubba

October 30, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Ohio State wouldn’t even be bowl elligible in the SEC. We all saw that not even Vandy & Mississippi State can be taken for granted anymore.

I don’t even think that the New England Patriots could play a 12 game SEC schedule and remain unbeaten.

Georgia’s losses to Tennessee and South Carolina don’t matter. They showed that they’re the best team in the nation on Saturday. I fully expect to see them in the national championship game this Jan.

By Golfintiger

October 30, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Brian said “Naturally coming from an LSU fan…..”

I am not an LSU fan. I am an Auburn grad and fan. LSU lost in triple overtime on the road to a team who was ranked in the top 15 at the time. OSU’s best win so far is against 29th ranked Purdue…OSU has no case other than they haven’t lost to very bad teams.

By Bubba

October 30, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Ohio State wouldn’t even be bowl elligible in the SEC. Even Vandy & Mississippi State cant be looked past anymore. The New England Patriots could play a 12 game SEC schedule and remain unbeaten. No-Shaun Moreno would run for over 100 yards on an NFL defense.

Georgia’s losses to Tennessee and South Carolina don’t matter. They showed that they’re the best team in the nation on Saturday. I fully expect to see them in the national championship game this Jan.

By Eric1

October 30, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Bubba, you’re qualified to be governor of Georgia or president of the USA.

By quaildawg

October 30, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Tony, I, for one, would like for you to “call out” the KY fans for their hypocratic booing of the team on Saturday. Was I the only one that noticed it??? Funny how quickly the masses in the Bluegrass Kingdom have gotten spoiled with their success that they have glossed over the past humpteen years of below mediocrity that was KY Football. They are less than two years removed from wanting to run Rich Brooks out of town and would typically be in their third week of “wait till Bball season” by now. Shame on you KY fans! Your team should petition the SEC to fire you in mass and replace you with others who exhibit a degree of class…of which you are obviously lacking. QD

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

OSU walked into the NC game last year much like they will this year. Undeservingly. This year it may actually work out for them if they end up playing a Boston College or an Arizona St.. Florida, who won many very close games in conference put a pure beyotch slap down on what was touted as a much superior OSU team. Need I remind you Tony that after the initial kick off OSU was out of the game. It was almost a blowout at half time.

By Tressel’s own admission, this is a “rebuilding” year and not as talent ladden as previous years. How is anyone to know, when year in and year out OSU plays the same cupcake schedule? OSU has not beaten a single “quality” opponent. Another down side to this is they won’t even face one until a NC game. Michigan while playing better, is the biggest test OSU will face before waltzing into a National Championship game? Something is amiss in this BCS Tony and as a journalist, you should be calling them out. Mr. College Football has his head up the BCS butt

By Dawg70

October 30, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

as fla. said last year, they played at least six teams better than ohio st. and it showed in the bowl game. when a team plays 6-8 tough teams each year plus a conf. championship game, it’s though to go without a loss. ohio st.,mich.,wisc.,ill. just wouldn’t be in the running if they played an SEC schedule. penn.st. learned even goining a conf. reduces your chances of a NC and they went in a 2 team conf.

By just a simple opinion

October 30, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

I think that the NC game should not include a Big 10 team this year. It should include the winner of the Pac-10 and either an undefeated BC team or winner of the SEC. Pac-10 is the best conference this year (and no, I’m not a Pac-10 alum, but a GT grad) top to bottom, so either Ariz. St. or Oregon is a worthy team if they can make it the rest of the way unscathed.

By Joe

October 30, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

OSU is overrated. I hope they get to play LSU for the NC. Then we can put this to rest. It will be a repeat of last years NC game with OSU getting smacked down.

By DWG

October 30, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

OSU fans better hope their team isn’t a poser again this year if they make it to the BCS title game. Get blown out again and the entire Big Ten may not get another shot for years. Of course I’m dreaming. Expect a lot of Big Ten v. ACC title games in the future as long as there is no playoff.

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Simple opine

The Pac-10 is a worthy competitive conference this year. They way it is shaping up, they’ll have beaten themselves up this year much the same way as the SEC has. The BCS system makes no allowance for that and in doing so, keeps possibly the best teams out of the NC. The polls lean to the underfeateds and with those come the unprovens i.e. OSU ect.

By sonny

October 30, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

I wish UGA could play those little ten and all cupcake conference schedule’s

By DaddyDawg

October 30, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Tony:

Answer this question for me, and then tell me if Ohio State should be no. 1: how many teams in the SEC could play OSU’s schedule to date and also be undefeated?? For that matter, how many other teams in the country could do the same (Oregon, BC, ASU?, etc.)? When you look at OSU from that perspective, you realize that OSU has not been sufficiently tested to date to be ranked no. 1 in the country…. it is simply undefeated, a feat many other teams could do as well if they had played the same schedule. On the other hand, put OSU in the SEC and let them play a typical SEC East or West schedule to date and tell me where OSU would be…. certainly not undefeated….and certainly not ranked no. 1 as a result!!

By will

October 30, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

I must say, although it’s not fair, it is pretty shifty of OSU to schedule a bunch of nobodies, then hope & pray they can beat Penn State & Michigan at the end of the year. A Guaranteed 11-1 or possible 12-0 gets them into a BCS every year. That’s a pile of money! But their schedule is a joke!

By Chris

October 30, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Washington was a test… until OSU handled them. Purdue was a test… until OSU handled them. Michigan State was a test… until OSU handled them. Penn State was a test… until OSU handled them.

See the pattern? Every team is unpredictable… you have to beat who you have scheduled. So far only OSU, ASU, BC, and Hawaii can say that.

By Chris

October 30, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

will - when Washington was scheduled they were a top team. It is not Ohio State’s fault that the Big Ten is down. Next year we start a home and home with Washington. Last year and the year before we had Texas. Who else schedules like that OOC?

By dan T

October 30, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Next year OSU starts a home and away with Southern Cal. I live around all the SEC fans and all they say is how bad the big ten is and how great the SEC is. What a load of crap. I always laugh especially hard when they say that the SEC is always a tougher conference than the big ten. Can they not remember just a couple years ago when most SEC teams were door mats and punch lines. I am not throwing stones but don’t say always and never when talking about your teams because that just shows ignorance of the facts. I shake my head when I see most of the big ten teams at the bottom of the rankings. Saying all big ten teams are a joke is just plan ignorant.

By GloryGlory

October 30, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

dan T, by door mats you mean 06 FL, 04 Auburn, 03 LSU, 02 UGA, 01 LSU, in the past six years the only SEC champion to lose its bowl game was 05 UGA.

By dan T

October 30, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

I think the reason most SEC fans so easily put down other conferences is because the suffer from poor self esteem. Its true. They are so used to being the ugly ducking and now they have mature into a great conference they don’t know how to handle it. So if anyone stands in the way they name call and over generalize. I totally understand it was hard all those years suffering thru all that bad football if you were an SEC fan. But move on with your life and stop bring everybody down with your over generalizations.

Big ten is down but not out.

By Roswell Ed

October 30, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

OSU has played

The Penguins

The Zips

and the Golden Flashes?

What the Robins, the Green Lanterns and the Aquamen didn’t have any open dates?

I’ve said it before. It’s not about who’s conference is better year in and year out.

It’s too subjective.

One thing that can’t be disputed however is the fact that the SEC is a better product.

Week in and week out there are far better matchups in the SEC.

This wasn’t one of the best SEC weekends and you still had UF-UGA and USC-UT.

By Jeff

October 30, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

^^ Roswell Ed ^^

Congratulations on learning to use bold text.

This proves how tough the SEC is.

By dan T

October 30, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Florida plays The Blue Raiders (Rank 93rd). I sure hope they don’t play the Owls (rank 94th) at night they are tuff at night. LSU Also plays the Blue Raiders and the power house Tulane at home. People in glass houses……. Give me a break. As I heard all of you say that the “SEC teams play a tough team week in and week out”. What a joke.

By GloryGlory

October 30, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what dan T is talking about, “All those years of bad football.” I’m in my early to mid twenties, the first game I remember watching was the Sugar Bowl when George Teague from Alabama took the ball away form the Miami player. I remember watching the fun and gun, Peyton Manning and Tee Martin, Shaun Alexander running over everybody (Ron Dayne was really good in the NFL by the way), LSU’s touchdown at UK after the coach got drenched, I remember Pollack’s interception, fumble recovery and touchdown that happened at the same time, Michael Johnson in the endzone at Auburn, Prothro’s catch, I remember Troy Smith getting owned by a FL player that lost his helmet. How is this bad football. Look at the SEC’s attendence record, the number of NFL players form our league. There is no way to argue that the SEC is not the most talented, well coached and exciting conference in America.

By dan T

October 30, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Jeff

lol

By secsucks

October 30, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

correct me if i’m wrong but there were 3 big ten / sec matchups in the bowls last year and the big ten won 2 of them ….

By Jeff

October 30, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics…

Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

By retard

October 30, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

It might be retarded, but it sure is fun

By JimmyG

October 30, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Anybody else excited about the next two years with Georgia and Arizona State going home and home?

By Alpha Dog

October 30, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Simple, they need to add back in the “strength of schedule” as part of the calculation. Who ever really wanted this taken out anyway?

By Big 10 rules!

October 30, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

The highlight of my weekend is always the scintillating Big 10 games at noon on ESPN. Pam Ward does an outstanding job of bringing these gridiron battles to life. Nothing like Indiana vs. Iowa to get the juices flowing on Saturday. And the nation can count on matchups like this EVERY WEEK!!

By MG

October 30, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

I love the accusations on OSU’s schedule, like it’s their fault these teams stink. Washington was a good schedule, they’re just down right now. When’s the last time an SEC team played Texas in a home and home? Or USC? (OSU plays USC in ‘08 and ‘09) Or Miami? (‘10 and ‘11) Or Oklahoma? (‘12 and ‘13) Let me know. And it will be a sweet day when OSU beats LSU and shuts up all the SEC myopians on Jan. 7

By Andy

October 30, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

To all of the OSU skeptics out there:

Do any of you see the circularity of your logic? You claim that OSU does not deserve to be ranked no. 1 in the BCS by using the BCS ranking system itself to judge the quality of OSU’s opponents. Apparently, BCS rankings is a perfect indicator of a given team’s skill and “value” unless that team happens to be Ohio State itself (and presumably whatever team is supported by the particular person whining about OSU’s ranking). Get off of it. If you aren’t happy about your team falling in the rankings, then you aren’t happy because your team lost a game. OSU lost a game, a big game, the National Championship game, which was LAST YEAR.

Still, that loss dropped us to No. 11 for the preseason rankings THIS YEAR. OSU has climbed to No. 1 by following a very simple strategy that the other top-ranked teams could not: They haven’t lost a game. You whine that OSU hasn’t faced a team that you consider good, but you base your ideas of good or bad entirely upon a ranking system that you are trying to challenge. The notion that unranked teams are universally worthless is a ridiculous notion. Not only does it fly in the face of the “any given Saturday” reality that makes college football enjoyable, there’s plenty of evidence that unranked teams should not be discounted or looked passed. I’m sure you’d find some agreement on this point from the USC fans (Remember, they were Preseason No. 1, No. 1 through Weeks 1-5, and No. 2 in Week 6, so according to you BCS slaves, they were a good team that LOST to an unranked and therefore unworthy of even playing Stanford) or those folks from Ann Arbor, whose Preseason No. 5 team began its season with a loss to unranked App. State.

As for the “SEC is the only conference that matters” crowd, get over yourselves. Right now, your conference is impressive. But it hasn’t always been, and it won’t be alway. These things are cyclical. To listen to all of you, it seems like should just stop playing football games outside the SEC altogether, and just let the SEC champion take the trophy home every year. That’s one sure way to make sure the SEC always wins, and to make sure SEC fans always feel good about yourselves. Of course, then they would start whining about unfairness in some aspect of the SEC rules or scheduling to explain why their particular SEC team isn’t doing as well as compared to the other SEC teams. Oh, my bad, I’ve actually borrowed from the SEC play book. I created hypothetical scenario, provided you with my SPECULATION as to how that scenario would have played out to my liking, and then used that as actual support for my position. Now that I’ve actually done it, it does seem rather self-serving and stupid. My apologies.

Still, that doesn’t mean thoe SEC fans aren’t all just whining that one of theirs isn’t no. 1. You don’t see OSU fans whining about last year’s loss or making excuses (unless you guys are needlessly piling it on as you so oft do, and then we have to something to get you to shut up). Our team didn’t show up to the national game; they played a horrible game; they lost. Thus, they started what should have been a rebuilding year at a relatively charitable No. 11. They’ve since beaten every team they’ve played, while others ahead of them have been upset by less worthy foes.

That’s why OSU is no. 1. As long as OSU keeps winning, it will remain no. 1. God willing, if it shows up and gives a proper performance at the Superdome, it will finish the season as the national champion. I’m sure you will all find reasons to complain about that too, but that won’t keep us from enjoying the ride.

By Alpha Dog

October 30, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

MG,

Arkansas played USC in ‘05 and ‘06, Texas in ‘03 and ‘04.

Tennessee played Cal in ‘05 and ‘06

Auburn played USC in ‘02 and ‘03

By War Eagle

October 30, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

In 2004, Auburn was scorn by the media playing The Citadel and Western Kentucky. Ohio State plays Youngstown State II, Akron, Kent State and Minn,(lost to N. Dakota State) and no schedule comments from BCS or news media…. BS. 1. LSU 2. Boston College, 3. Oklahoma 4. UGA, Auburn, Bama> tie.Who would you rather play Penn State or South Carolina? That is the difference. Big East is stronger than Big Ten…Who you rather p[lay WVA or Michigan?

By FluffAlbright

October 30, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Obviously OSU’s schedule is soft compared to several other teams in other conferences but this system rewards teams with big names (historically successful programs)and soft schedules. What’s the difference between OSU and ASU? OSU was of course rewarded with a higher preseason ranking so they get the nod all things (records not schedules) being equal. The system is so flawed I hardly no where to begin. Let’s just say I’ll be rooting for a BC vs. Kansas BCSCG so the president’s finally get the message. Playoff….please!!

By azcat225

October 30, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

To JimmyG:

This Univ of Arizona fan will be rooting all-out for UGA to kick the Scumdevils’ tails to kingdom come for the next two years. Maybe Stoops will still be able to rebuild the program; if not, another coach should be able to do so. Hope springs eternal, especially in the current college football landscape.

I agree wholeheartedly with previous comments about the SEC and the PAC10 cannibalizing themselves this year. Ohio St is just whistling through the graveyard (again) if they think the result will be any different if they reach the NC game this year, especially against an SEC team.

By secsucks

October 30, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

*correct me if i’m wrong but there were 3 big ten / sec matchups in the bowls last year and the big ten won 2 of them …. *

I find it interesting that I put forth a simple fact (something SEC fans don’t like to deal with) and I don’t get a single response from the SEC bigots

By Scott Gold

October 30, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

The fact is that Ohio State is unbeaten. Penn state had won 19 of 20 games at home and then Ohio State dominated them. Ohio State also leads the NCAA in every defensive category. You can’t blame Ohio State for being number one but you can blame the SEC teams for losing a game and falling out of the top BCS position. I follow Ohio State and I can tell you that they are rebuilding. So imagine how much better they will be next year. Maybe next year they should be ranked 1/2 of 1.

By War Eagle

October 30, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

MG, Auburn first four games 2008, At West VA at Miss State, LSU, Tenn. plus UGA, Ark., at Bama, at Vandy. Auburn has played Texas home and home twice, USC home and home as Alpha Dog stated.

By azcat225

October 30, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Bigots seems a bit over the top, secsucks…

And since the discussion is focused on this year (for the most part), I’m not sure what last year’s bowl games have to do with the here-and-now.

You can hurl insults all you want but this PAC10 fan does not believe for one minute that Ohio State would have less than two losses playing an SEC (East or West) schedule this year.

As other bloggers have said, all of this sturm und drang emphasizes the fundamentally flawed nature of the BCS. Amazing how every other division of the NCAA (and NAIA) can have a playoff to determine their football champion but not Division I.

By Sicem

October 30, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Big 10 over hyped once again this year Tony. Yall come on down here OSU and let an SEC team show you how to take another butt whoopin! If Penn State is the best example of who they have beaten then you shouldnt have even brought it up Barnhart! You will see come bowl time once again that real football is played in the south that is if the southern teams get matched up with the imposters! GO DAWGS AND GO SEC!

By azcat225

October 30, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

And btw, I live in Atlanta so I get a daily dose (sometimes ad nauseum) of SEC and ACC coverage in football and basketball.

By scatssux

October 30, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

azcat225,

As I will root for everyone to kick the scats of northern nogales azzes!

The thing is this, given your record and ours this year (and the past several years) it seems I have been given the pleasure to root more than you as we are undefeated and you…well you know that UofEH pitiful record.

Good Luck next year, I hope the mildcats keep Stoops, that way they will continue to be the bottom feeders of the PAC-10.

GO DEVILS!!!!

By secsucks

October 30, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

big·ot (bĭg’ət) n. One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ

Based on the definition of the word bigot I don’t think it’s over the top at all …

By azcat225

October 30, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Hence the comment about rebuilding, scatssux…

Like all rivalries, this one has its ebbs and flows. I remember not too long ago an eight or nine game winning streak by the UofA against ASU.

As to bottom feeding, you might want to recheck the conference standings. I believe there are two teams behind the UofA.

By Baman

October 30, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

SEC fans. Why all of the hate.? It shows low self esteem. We know the SEC is a good conference. Don’t measure our success by trying to tear other teams and conferences down. Go dawgs!

By LOL

October 30, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

I lived in Atlanta for ten years and the funny thing about the south is that they still think the civil war is going on. The war ended and you lost. The SEC is good and this is a rebuilding of the big ten. You could argue that the SEC is also rebuilding and that is why their is not an unbeaten team. Maybe the out of conference games should be with the SEC and Big Ten but my guess is that the SEC fans will cry foul because they cannot accept losing to a northern team. At the end of the day you should quit crying and admit that OSU is the best team and that the BCS is the best system we have for now. Hopefully some day we will have a play off system. My guess is that even with a play off system the SEC fans will still cry foul if it is a northern team that wins out.

By Jason

October 30, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Everyone is right. OSU has not had a toughe schedule. And like a good team they have destroyed every overmatched team. It is not like they are barely winning. people want to talk about ohio states only quality win was washington. Remember washington put up 3o something points agaist a great oregon team. Everyone wants to keep reliving last years NC game. One bad game in tressles career at osu. To say that OSU wouldnt make a bowl game if they played in the SEC, your crazy. One very bad bowl game and all of a sudden OSU is a bad program. If OSU makes the NC game this year that will be 3 appearences in the past 6 years. Face it OSU will win the NC this year even if they play a mighty SEC team.

By Travis

October 30, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Dear SEC PEOPLE…

Just because you beat up on each other does not mean everyone else in the country would loose to you. Sure, the teams are competitive…with each other. This so called dominace-is a myth.

Ohio State spent 50 days hearing how they would run over Florida and got embarassed-they very overconfidant-and it showed…Something that I guarantee will not happen ever again. It wasn’t Florida’s speed that beat us-it was Our arrogance. We didn’t show up to play-we expected Florida to fall on their knees and kiss our A—….

LSU has lost a game…if they were so elite they would not have lost it. Get over it SEC-we are not buying into your superiorty “myth”.

As for OSU’s schedule…we are not just winning-we are destroying. And this is all from a “young” team. You don’t thing we get nightmares about Florida last year? We do-and it has taught us a lesson: Not that the SEC is better or faster (Miami was “supossed” to be faster-and look how we got them)-but that we cannot just show up to win-no matter how the press says that we can.

If I were you: SEC people-I would concentrate on trying to win the games that I needed to in order to get to us. Don’t be like rappers and cry about your “home life (the SEC)” when you don’t have the opportunities…You win-and getto us-and We’ll show you just how tough the SEC is to us…

Until then-stop this infernal whining-because if that is a sample of the SEC based on the whinning of it’s fans-then I think we’ll be playing a bunch of little girls if one of you makes it.

Travis (The Ohio State University-class of ‘96)

By pmk

October 30, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

If OSU was playing in the SEC this year they would be undefeated anyway. Nobody can prove otherwise.

If any SEC teams finish undefeated they’ll be in the championship game too. OOPS, too late.

By Joe

October 30, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

How does beating a #25 ranked team legitimate Ohio State’s claim to the #1 ranking?

You’ve bought into the hype Tony. LSU is the #1 team in the country.

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

pmk

The last SEC team to finish undefeated did not get to play in the BCS championship game. Regardless of you and your ilk of OSU spewing the “Look at us the undefeated” displaying the greater than thou attitude. Fans of the SEC for the most part do not care who plays in the championship game or from what conference they happen to play in. Just as long as they are the best TWO teams in the nation. Most years these would both be from the SEC but impossible under the current system. We can accept that. There is no way to prove you are the best until you beat the best. Which of OSU opponents would you call the (cough) Best??

By Ryan

October 30, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

OSU has more NFL players than any SEC team…man their program sucks…no wait, NFL scouts just don’t realize that by playing harder schedules, the SEC players don’t look as good because they beat each other up, so therefore they have less NFL players than OSU.

By BOB

October 30, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

LSU LOST TO KENTUCK! NOW THATS A FOOTBALL POWER HOUSE. That alone should disqualify them from a NC game.

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Ryan

I’m dumber just from reading that crap you wrote. If you think that is true you are 1) grossly misled or 2) an OSU drop out

By azcat225

October 30, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

I’m well aware of the meaning of the word bigot but thanks for the cut-and-paste, secsucks.

Words have certain meanings for people beyond their black-and-white definitions in a dictionary (pun intended) and I think it cheapens that particular word to throw it around on a blog about college football.

Just one person’s opinion, as all of these entries are.

By TPV

October 30, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

I think The people in the SEC should play one another in the spring (behind closed doors)-and just CHOOSE ONE TEAM (that you all feel is best) and have the rest of you forfiet to that team during the season-that way you all get to be happy by having played one another in your “super conference”-and ultimately one of you survives (with no loses) to play against the rest of the country…Would that work?

…No-seriously-I really do hope LSU (or one of you) make it to the championship game-and OSU wins out. And when OSU tramples all over them-you can all find something else to whine about (because this is getting old) after you’ve been forced to realize that our landslide loss was more to do with our arrogance than Florida’s “SEC power”.

TPV

By Ryan

October 30, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Ardog

If you didn’t catch it, that is the same logic most SEC fans use to claim their conference dominance. I’m not saying the SEC isn’t a better overall conference this year than the big ten, and frankly, I don’t care. I root for a team and not a conference. I was the first person cheering when Michigan went down to Appalachian St. But when you disrespect the OSU program and the quality of football players (NFL) they continually produce because of a conference they play in, that is just plain ignorant.

And to your rebuttal that the Florida game is why you disrepect OSU: Who is your team and have they ever been beating badly in a football game? It happens, but the majority of the time with OSU, it doesn’t. They are 4-1 in BCS bowl games.

By Ryan

October 30, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

and no…I don’t believe what I said, it was a completely sarcastic comment used to bring about the type of response you gave only to prove my point of how dumb that logic sounds.

By Roswell Ed

October 30, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Question to tOSU fans about the schedule:

How many homecoming games did y’all have this year.

From the look of it I’d say about four, but then I remember how Ohio girls look and realize it’s hard enough to find 1 pretty girl to be homecoming queen at tOSU.

I was at a game at Jacobs Field a few years ago, and you know how the team will put up pictures of pretty girls between innings?

We’ll after about the bottom of the third the matrix guy just posted a message that said:

Damn I give up!!

I then realized that he truelly had the hardest job in America!!

It’d be like trying to find couples that weren’t related at a WVU game.

OR people who actually attended the school at a Miami game.

OR someone without a pocket protector at a Tech game.

By secsucks

October 30, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

azcat255 - if you read more into the word bigot than what how it’s meant then you have the problem ..

By Buckeye Fan in Florida

October 30, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

Ohio State’s loss to Florida last year was clearly indicative of an overconfident, complacement team. By the way, it was the only Big 10 team to lose to the SEC out of 3 bowl games. In fact, over the past 5 seasons the Big 10 is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowls. Get over yourselves SEC fans. The National Championship Game was a big, lopsided upset win and Florida should be congratulated as such, but it was ONE game. Ohio State is a far football team than most people realize.

By RJ

October 30, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

Let’s use some SEC logic on just how strong and dominant your conference is this year. Auburn beats Florida in Gainesville. LSU beats Auburn on the LAST play of the game. With me still?

Isn’t this the same Auburn that lost at home to South Florida?

Yes, the South Florida Bulls that recently got blown out by Rutgers, and barely escaped at Florida International. Let me repeat, just to be clear: Florida International.

You see, the problem is that your SEC dominance argument just doesn’t hold water when you break it down.

It’s a good conference that plays an exciting brand of football. A conference whose lower division teams are better than the Big 10’s bottom 5, no question. Other than that, anybody can beat anybody on a given day and that my friends is simply what happened on last year’s biggest stage of college football. That’s it. One game, the best team in college football didn’t show up. They are kids afterall. It happens. It won’t this year, SEC opponent or otherwise.

By War Eagle

October 30, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this

Big Ten fans, the overall record of Big Ten vs SEC is near .650 PCT SEC. There has been some great Big Ten teams last 50 years and no doubt at one time it was a more complete conference than the SEC. The situation has change,Bob speaks of KY win over LSU, KY could beat most of Big Ten teams this year. Their has been two Division II teams(North Dakota State and App. State), won games this year over MIch. and Minn. Three reasons SEC has overall better conference last 5 years. 1. recruiting, 2. speed 3. coaching. Who besides Coach Joe(great one), and Carr(on his way out) is compared to Spurrier, Richt, Tuberville, Fulmer, Myers, Saban and Miles, who will join Big Ten next year(Mich)? The closest is Zook, former SEC coach(Florida). There was no fluke last year it will happen again this year if BCS does it job.

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this

TPV Listen, OSU got beat badly in the NC game last year. Regardless of what you want to call it, your own arrogance or any bevy of excuses you can come up with the botton line is your hat got handed to you thoroughly, completely and unequivocially. Call it arrogance if you wish. Maybe this year you’ll bring players who remember how to play and aren’t so arrogant.

Just remember when you suffer through the total azz whipping that you did last year the smack doesn’t stop until you’ve redeemed yourself. Against Akron, Youngstown ST, Penn, Wisconsin and Kent ST there is no redemption. You want to feel the love, PLAY SOMEBODY. There is no SEC fan distaste for OSU or the Big 10 that I am aware of. It is also our hope that your team gets to show some SEC team how good they are, because we haven’t seen it yet.

By ARdawg

October 30, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this

Ryan

I am a true blue Georgia Bulldog and yes we have been beaten and beaten badly. Never have we been completely humiliated in a NC game. As I stated earlier call it whatever you wish overconfident doesn’t matter. Last years OSU team waltzed into the NC game undefeated and talent laden but woefully short in production when it mattered. Their problem as I saw it was an untested team with no idea of the stiff competition they were about to face. Florida knew, they played it at least 9 times.

Ryan, you’ll find most on these AJC blogs are fans of some team they love and actually use sound logic in their posts. Of course there are the exceptions. If you seek straight honest dialogue keep away from the lunitic fringe sarcasm

By What

October 30, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this

OSU v. SEC teams in bowl games (0-9). Nuff said.

By Danny K

October 30, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this

Ryan’s comment was great … “OSU has more NFL players than any SEC team…man their program sucks…no wait, NFL scouts just don’t realize that by playing harder schedules, the SEC players don’t look as good because they beat each other up, so therefore they have less NFL players than OSU.”

If the AFC Central is weak this year, does that mean the Steelers shouldn’t get to the playoffs? It’s not OSU’s fault that their conference is weak. Orrrrrrrrr …… they may just be that good!

By GoBucks

October 31, 2007 7:40 AM | Link to this

* THERE WERE 3 SEC/BIG 10 BOWL GAMES LAST YEAR - BIG 10 WON 2 OF THEM. *

By Cousin Brucey

October 31, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Weekend at Bobby’s! If you hate FSU, check this poster out. …. http://www.gatoralert.com/component/option,com_rsgallery2/Itemid,69/page,inline/id,4/catid,1/limitstart,0/

By Jim Beavers

October 31, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this

If the SEC is so great how come Penn State beat Tenn. and Wisconsin beat Auburn last year in bowl games? Huh? Make an excuse about those will ya.

By TexasBuckeye

October 31, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this

Think about this one.

If the SEC is so ‘dominant’, why does the Big Ten lead in head to head bowl game matchups in the BCS era?

Yeah, OSU got beat up last year in the NC game. But not as bad as Fla, did against Nebraska, 62-24. Seems y’all forgot about that one.

By Jeannie

November 5, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

OSU doesn’t play anybody worth a damn. I can’t wait til LSU wipes the field with your a*. It is going to be so damn funny. You will be a joke, just like you were last year. You didn’t deserve to be there last year and it showed. It’s going to look the same way this year. Ole Miss could beat OSU. I can’t wait for you guys to give me a good laugh again this January. Get a schedule then talk to us about how dominant you are. Until then just shut the hell up!!