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South Florida should be No. 1
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Five things we learned over the weekend.
1. South Florida actually should be No. 1: I agree with those who have a problem with South Florida being No. 2 in the BCS standings. The Bulls should actually be No. 1. The BCS standings should be about who you play and who you beat. USF beat Auburn on the road and West Virginia at home. Ohio State has played non-conference games with Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State and its best win to date is over Washington (2-3).
2. It ain’t easy being No. 1: Southern Cal couldn’t handle it at home (against Stanford). LSU couldn’t handle it on the road (against Kentucky). California was in the middle of a game with Oregon State when it learned that LSU had lost and it was going to be No. 1. But the Bears had a brain freeze and ran out the clock to lose 31-28. Now it’s Ohio State’s turn in the barrel. The Buckeyes have tough road games at Penn State and Michigan down the stretch.
3. Kentucky is not a finesse team any more: The Wildcats beat LSU last Saturday because they matched LSU hit for hit, especially in the fourth quarter. LSU pounded Kentucky in the third quarter and the Tigers thought they would wear the Wildcats down like they did Florida. But Kentucky would not wilt. I promise you that LSU is a sore football team today.
4. LSU not out of it: Having said all that, LSU is good enough to win the rest of its games and play for the BCS championship. A 12-1 record in the SEC, which is the only BCS conference with no undefeated teams, should get a lot of respect from the voters. Is it good enough to jump over a 12-0 team from South Florida or a 13-0 Boston College? We’ll see. LSU has got to get past Auburn first.
5. Hawaii does not deserve a BCS bid: Fun team to watch. I like June Jones. Quarterback Colt Brennan will be a pretty good pro. But the Warriors play a ridiculously easy schedule and have trouble every time they come to the mainland. The BCS rules were relaxed in order to give deserving teams (like Boise State in 2006) access to the big bowls. But if a team like Hawaii gets in and gets embarrassed, then it will undermine the intent of the rule.




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Comments
By Eric
October 15, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
Is Auburn still in the league?
By Buck
October 15, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Already sick of USF down here. The Bulls have a tough game one week, then a joke the next. The Big East is laughable, let’s be honest. (www.GatorAlert.com)
By Mike K.
October 15, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
And yet they managed to beat Auburn Buck. Ask UGA and GT fans how good West Virginia can be as well. They just crushed a UCF team that almost beat Texas earlier this year.
That said, I don’t think they go undefeated if they’re playing in the SEC or the Pac-10. I like the Big East, but there is no way they’re as strong this year as the SEC or Pac-10.
By JD
October 15, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
The whole Big East is a joke. USF has a real tough game this week against…Rutgers! Just tell USF to lock their doors when they get into NJ.
By 2N4YEARS
October 15, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
Tony, I picked KEN to beat LSU. Not because KEN is better than LSU, but rather that’s how the World of College Football works. The schedule was set up for this to happen. LSU’s feel’en a little cocky and then BAM, they lose. Why?? Because CFB is a game of emotion. But your reasoning behind S.FLA to be #1 is ludicrous. NOBODY gets up to play S.FLA. NOBODY. As I just mentioned (LSU vs. KEN), CFB is a game of EMOTION. LSU, FLA, USC, OU, etc, etc. would have a field day with the BULLS in a NC game, and you can take that to the Bank.
By Tampa Ed
October 15, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
When my team USF team gets ranked #2, you expect some people to love you, and many more to hate you. What has been the most shocking is how 90% of the hate comes from University of Florida fans. Why is that?
..USF beat Auburn…what happened UF? We didn’t ask you to lose. Maybe that home field advantage was too tough to overcome?
…oh and USF was scheduled to play Florida in 2008. Florida keeps pushing that game back. At last check, it was on for 2011….and Florida REFUSES to play a game in Tampa.
Facts hurt, don’t they?
If UF was in the national championship game, I would still cheer for them. Too bad they aren’t secure enough to do the same.
If UF REALLY wants to hurt our chances, you need to get together with Auburn and lose all of your remaining games. That way the computers will think we really were as bad as you would like us to be.
By m
October 15, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
We need a full fledged 16 or 32 team playoff. Opinions should not have any bearing on football. Only what happens on the field. The talking heads on tv or in the newspaper prove over and over again what idiots they are. WE NEED A PLAYOFF….take OPINIONS out of football.
By Scott
October 15, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
If you people would ever take the time to watch a Bulls game, I think that your opinion would change. They regularly dominate on both sides of the ball. George Selvie is another Javon Kearse. Watch and see, they can match up with anyone!
By Chris
October 15, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
What the USF defense did to West Virginia, no other team in the country could have done, not LSU and certainly not Florida. USF has not chosen a creampuff schedules, teams simply haven’t wanted to schedule USF since they have seen it as a program on the rise. If you go to Auburn and win, then Auburn beats Florida, the Gators fans can’t talk smack. LSU certainly can talk as they play a unbelievably tough schedule and mostly win, however USF is right behind them at this point in the season. Ohio State has played nobodies and on a neutral field there is no way a sane gambler would put their money on them to win against USF. Right now for the championship game it should be LSU vs USF and a showdown of the two best defenses in the country.
By mcdawg
October 15, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
does anyone really believe the Boston College is the No. 3 team-not impressed after watching the Notre Dame game
By Kay g
October 15, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
If you want to talk about best defenses in the country, lets look at Auburn in the past three weeks. Hold Fla to a season low, Vandy didn’t have 100 total yards on offense until the end of the 3rd qtr with the #2’s and 3’s in on D for AU, and the Auburn defense just held Ark to 67 rushing yards - a team that had been averaging just over 300 on the ground. And they haven’t been completely healthy on D since the first half of the first game. They should have everyone back next week.
And the offense is getting better and better. Make 2 of those missed field goals and don’t fumble on the 5 yard line and that game wouldn’t have been near that close. And Auburn kept it very conservative running the ball 52 times on Sat.
Just hold off on proclaiming LSU the SEC champ just yet. We shall see this weekend.
By toby young
October 15, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
GAMECOCKS SHOULD BE IN THE TOP FIVE.I CAN,T SEE MANY COACHS VOTING FOR THE OLD BALL COACH CAUSE HE KNOWES HOW TO WIN..YOU WON,T SEE US JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON THE VANDY LOGO AFTER WE WIN.HOW EMBRASSED ARE UGA FANS OVER THAT SHAMLES ACT.JUST SHOWES YOU HOW FAR THE PUPPYS HAVE GONE…GAMECOCKS ARE FOR REAL.
By Bill
October 15, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Hey Eric, not only is Auburn still in the League….but they pasted Florida in the Swamp. Your Dawgs are next!! The youth that hurt them early in the year has given way to experience and confidence. LSU had better bring their A-game on Saturday.
By mcdawg
October 15, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Auburn’s Defense is stout-LSU must have the most difficult schedule in the country this year-if they win out they deserve to be in BCS-not sure they will get by Auburn this weekend
By Pitbull
October 15, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
I agree that South Florida should be Number 1. Since number 1 keeps losing, however, maybe that will make Ohio State go down in the next few weeks.
I look at the BCS top 25 and see SC, UK, UF, UGA, and UT. This Dawg thinks UT sould be ranked above UGA due to the UGA-UT game results.
But is it any wonder that a school in the SEC East (this year UGA) can have a good but not great team and still lose as many as 5 games?
And I think Vandy is going to win 1 of their division games before the season is over. They are a solid team.
If those teams were spread out in 5 different divisions in various football conferences, they would probably all be division winners.
By Shane
October 15, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Is that English Toby? What year did you graduate from USC? South Caolina beats UGA once in the last ten years and they think they own the world. Enjoy it will be another ten before you win that game again.
As for South Florida I hope they make the Champ game. Maybe that will make enough of the big boys mad enough to push us closer o a playoff.
By Shane
October 15, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
Is that English Toby? What year did you graduate from USC? South Caolina beats UGA once in the last ten years and they think they own the world. Enjoy it will be another ten before you win that game again.
As for South Florida I hope they make the Champ game. Maybe that will make enough of the big boys mad enough to push us closer o a playoff.
By ATLNative
October 15, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
There are a lot of arguments for and against USF… I say without a doubt that the level of talent on this team is for real. I think the problem the world is having is that this is a school with no tradition, no pageantry, and no history and they’re kickking butt and taking names.
However, there is an argument about the education level of their players… I’ve heard of coaches for other Florida schools who say that some of the players for USF are ones that they could not take a chance on, academically. Saying they wanted to take them, but thought they wouldn’t hold up to the rigorous academic programs at those schools.
Unfortunately, USF’s academic history is as unknown as their football history and so they’re not going to automatically get a lot of respect. For example, Vandy, Kentucky, Duke, and UNC - who have traditionally poor football (regardless of this year’s events) have something else from basketball to academics to ofset the ridicule of their football. So when a school in Florida, that is not UF, FSU, or Miami, all of a sudden has the second largest enrollment in Florida and their football program is on the rise, it’s a fair assumption the admissions standards and cirriculum aren’t exactly rigorous.
Any USF grads with some stats or studies to prove otherwise? I’d love to hear them.
By Blake
October 15, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
South Florida is the best football team in the country. They beat a good Auburn team fair and square, and smashed WV shortly after. This team could beat LSU and SoCal, and would run through the SEC, ACC with a little more competition, but almost as well as the Big East.
By mark
October 15, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
Hawaii plays a ridiculously easy schedule, i agree. But so does USF and Ohio St. “the” Ohio state hasn’t even played a team in the top 30 yet this year!!
Wanna know what else is ridiculous about college football?? Michigan has a pretty good chance of winning their conference, thereby going to a BCS bowl. This is the team that lost to a 1-AA school! A TEAM LOSES TO A 1-AA SCHOOL AND THEY STILL GET A BCS BID?!?!?! College football is a joke!
By wmd
October 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure if USF should be ranked #1, but OSU certainly doesn’t deserve to be there. They’re schedule is horrible. PREDICTION Lloyd Carr saves his job when he beats THE osu in November.
By Randyt
October 15, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
I agree that as of today, USF could make a strong case for #1. Ohio State is running through a bunch of high school teams, and in a conference that is weak this year, could run the table. Unfortunately, there are several teams with one loss that will probably ascend to the top of the BCS not ecause they are good, but because they are in weak conferences.
What gripes me is that the SEC and some conferences, have playoffs that will usually automatically knock the losere, who may be stronger than many teams, out of the BCS bowls. All should have playoffs, or none.
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October 15, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
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By D Ellis
October 15, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Yep Tony is right….USF does deseve to be number 1….of them/OSU/BC…they have played the toughest schedule to date and remian undefeated…they should be number 1 no doubt about it.
IT ain’t easy being number 1 is the understatement of the college football sason to date.
Kentucky is for real….Period…no other way to put it…but also shows how good the Gamecocks are.
LSU is not out of it…but how wil lthey respond after their first L…who knows but they still have some very very tough teams to play…I say they lose at least 1 more…if not regulr season in the SEC championship game.
And Hawaii does need to play a tougher schedule…but who is going out there for a game…and why are they not traveling to the mainland more to get those games…is it because no one wants to play them…or neither teams want to travle that much?
By buzzdroid
October 15, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Tough call anyway you look at it. Honestly, it’s too early for it to really matter.
We have released free blog themes for the top 25 schools in the bcs. Both USF and OSU are in there. Hope some bloggers can enjoy.
By MK
October 15, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
D Ellis, Hawaii actually suffers from both of those problems. For years now, Hawaii has always played among some of the toughest non-conf (especially when compared to in-conference opps) schedules in America. In the past 5-6 years, they’ve played USC, Oregon, Oregon St, Alabama, Michigan St, Wisconsin, UAB, Washington, etc. So the quality opponents have been there. Unfortunately, the talent of the football players at UH has gotten to the point that’s not an easy win anymore, even on the road (as Bama proved as they had to grind out a tough win). Teams just don’t want to play UH anymore. Michigan St bought out their game for this year (hence the second I-AA game that Hawaii was forced to schedule on short notice), and that ESPN was willing to sponsor a Michigin-Hawaii game in Hawaii, which Michigan turned down.
However, to be fair, if Hawaii was truly willing to push the BCS, they should have turned the cancelled Michigan State game into a tough road game, maybe an upper-tier PAC-10 team like Cal or Oregon. By scheduling a second I-AA home game and thereby almost killing it’s BCS credibility, UH shot itself in the foot. I understand it was very short notice, and that UH is among the poorest of all major state schools (which makes it tough to travel), but if UH wanted to make a statement in the BCS, they should’ve taken a road game for that missed Michigan State game. The fault for Hawaii’s schedule lies in both UH and it’s BCS foes. Who would’ve thought that getting better would actually hurt your BCS chances?
By toby young
October 15, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
yo Shane…ARE YOU IN FOR A SHOCK……SAY DUDE…YOU STILL HURTING FROM THAT BEATING TO THE COCKS AIN,T YA..YOU GET SOME MORE NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU BRING MRS DRYSDALES PODDLES TO COLUMBIA..
By don't worry
October 15, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Don’t panic, Ohio State won’t be #1 for long. Once the Suckeyes visit Penn State on Oct. 27, it’ll be lights out. The Nittany Lions are 19-1 at home in the last 20 games and they’ll be 20-1 after they knock off OSU. Of course, Michigan State just may beat us to it.
WE ARE…PENN STATE!!!!
By bamadon
October 15, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
THE SEC EAST AND WEST IS UP FOR GRABS!! GLAD TO SEE THE WILDCATS AND GAMECOCKS DOING WELL THIS SEASON!! I AM LOOKING FOWARD TO SEE THE LSU AND AUBURN GAME SATURDAY!! HOPE BAMA BEATS THE VOLS AND GOOD LUCK TO AUBURN SATURDAY NIGHT!! LES MILES IS A FU#KING REDNECK!!!
By FluffAlbright
October 15, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
For TB and other “every week is a playoff” BCS apologists here is a good column on Yahoo sports:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AhSKmgk1XkGRgqCc5aaLlIUcvrYF?slug=dw-bcs101307&prov=yhoo&type=lgns.
Perhaps a BC vs. USF championship game will put an end to this BCS idiocy.
By 59bulldawg
October 15, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
I think it’s pretty obvious that the Bulls have a very good team. But whether or not they can win it all remains to be seen. Since the Dawgs have blown their chance for a NC, if indeed they ever had one this year, I wouldn’t mind seeing South Florida take all the marbles. Plus I agree that it might lead to a Division I playoff system sooner than later. Division I college football is the only major sport where a playoff system does not determine the champion.
By mcdawg
October 15, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
USF reminds me of the Oregon St. team back in ‘98 or’99-fast, physical, and all flunking out of school-OSU under Erickson brought in all the JUCO players from south central that could not qualify at other schools-it didn’t last more than 1 year and half-time will tell with the USF program-will be watching the game this thursday but the athletes from what i have seen are for real
By Eric
October 15, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
It’s an imposter. This Eric is an Auburn Tiger. WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!
By Eric
October 15, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Hey Mr. College Football, wasn’t that that you on TV guaranteeing that South Florida would be no higher than 4 in the BCS? And didn’t you pick UCF to upset the Bulls? Mr. College Football indeed.
By Lane
October 15, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Florida, LSU, from what i have seen appear to be a cut above - in the SEC. Feel like LSU was out coached and had a slight letdown, against Kentucky. Spurrier is proving what a great coach he is-wish he would retire!!!!
Georgia, is not very good and are very young, also appear to be a “step slow” on defense. Stafford is so inconsistent, receivers have the “drops”. OL seems to be improving - need depth on the OL, which is young and not physically developed.
Is there the possibility Lumpkin could get a MEDICAL REDSHIRT, guy has talent!!!
By Chuck
October 15, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
I have long believed a playoff of 8 or 16 teams was needed and could easily be worked into the current bowl system. This season is already shaping up to prove the point that you don’t have a real champion until you have a playoff. There are too many good teams that never get the chance to win it on the field in head-to-head competition against other deserving teams.
By SW
October 15, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
ATLNative @ 12:02 pm
Now THAT was a low blow!!! Taking a stab at USF’s academics, huh? Do you even keep up with collegiate athletics? I ask because:
A) The majority of schools have academic issues when it comes to their athletic programs inclusive of those you named. Take Duke for example. Do you really think ANY of their basketball players would qualify to enter their University if they weren’t playing basketball? What about Kentucky? Vanderbilt (I guess you mean the baseball team)? UNC??
B) Most athletes are dumb as dirt (even quarterbacks). They earn their keep due to their athletic prowess and not in the classroom. Granted, there will occassionally be anamolies, which schools plaster all over brochures and put up for awards but the low academic hurdle isn’t reserved for USF. Name your school I’ll get you the stats to prove it.
C) Did you hear Spurrier’s rant about South Carolina’s admissions procedures for their athletes? Did you see the benchmarks the athletes have to achieve for admission? I am not singling Spurrier/USC out because this happens across the nation. All schools, except maybe the Ivies, lower their regular admissions standards for athletes. Its purely financial and pimping at it’s finest.
D) Now if you want to debate/question the regular admissions standards from school to school, let me know.
E) I am not a South Florida fan at all but they have earned their keep on the field this year. From what I’ve seen, they’d beat BC. They’d also beat OSU in the Horse Shoe (OSU could not beat Auburn who beat Florida in Gainesville who manhandled OSU). They should be #1.
What I’m saying is that your argument was baseless because it is subjective and vague at best. It is also transferrable to any other school. Valedictorians, salutatorians, etc. earn their props in the classroom. Does it matter if they can’t jump or score a touchdown? Give USF props for what they’ve done and enjoy the rest of the season playing out…
side note: athletics do not have a danged thing to do with a college/university’s academics but interestingly, when a school has a winning athletic program (marketability), more people apply and it allows the school to be more selective and in essence, raise the academic profile of their incoming classes…go figure.
By Fred
October 15, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
First I would like to honor Coach Tuberville at Auburn for stepping up.
Last year,he made a comment “about a weak Big East team” but he and the Auburn athletic department backed that up by scheduling Big East Schools. This year Soth Florida and in 2008 and 09 a series with West Virginia. Get the idea critics if you want to prove “Big Least” play us.
By CKDawg65
October 15, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
The SEC champion will and should play in the BCS title game if it has only 1 loss. There is no secret to why UF stomped OSU last year…they were battle tested. This slippery slope theory of USF beat Auburn who beat Florida is garbage. What makes the SEC the SEC and the PAC10 the PAC10 (this year) are that you have to BRING IT every week. The question is not how good USF’s or Ohio St’s schedule is, but rather, honestly, where would USF or Ohio St or BC be with the schedule that UF or LSU or UGA or S Caro or UTenn or AU has had and will continue to have. USF is a nice team, but I feel they would be a mid-upper SEC team with 2-4 losses at the end of the year. I think they will also be tested before the end of the year in their own conference by Rutgers, Cinci, and Louisville.
By steve
October 15, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
to ATLnative: that’s the ticket, go poke USF in the eye with a sharp stick regarding student-athlete admisssions. Are you some kind of left wing moonbat elitist? Why don’t you go do your own investigation into the academics at the Universty of South Florida? Their admissions policy is no better or worse when it comes to admitting football players uthan any other league unless you’re talking Ivy League. Go pound salt…
By War Eagle
October 15, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Ohio State would be 3-3 if they had played Auburn schedule or any other SEC school. The Big Ten lacks speed, parity and coaching compared to the SEC.. If sportswriters want Buckeyes red face again, let them remain #1 and this year it will probably be LSU. I still think LSU is #1 team in the country with S. Florida #2. They made terrible mistakes, but give Kentucky credit, they got the job done…Great win for Wildcats.
By Atlanta Gator
October 15, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Okay, I’m one of the resident Gator fans and alumni on these AJC blog boards (emphasis on the word alumnus). I have three degrees from the University of Florida, and I don’t know who these “Gator fans” are who are attempting to step on USF’s buzz are, but they need to knock it off. They are embarrassing their alma mater … or at least the Gator sports teams of they purport to be fans.
USF is actually the fourth largest university (44,000 undergrads and graduate students) in the state of Florida, after Florida, Florida State and Central Florida. Notwithstanding it s lackluster 3rd-tier US News ranking, it is an entirely respectable academic institution that started life as a multi-campus commuter school, and is rapidly evolving into a mostly residential college.
Fifty percent of USF’s students were in the top fifth of their high school class, and the 50th percentile SAT is somewhere north of 1100. Among the SEC schools, LSU, Ole Miss & Mississippi State have comparable or lower academic admissions standards, and Arkansas and USC are only slightly ahead. I also note that among Big East schools, admissions standards at Rutgers, Cincinnati, Louisville and West Virginia are more or less comparable.
Bottom line, USF may be the biggest “little school” of which you have never heard. It has the third medical school in Florida, and several other very respectable graduate programs. And its Bulls football team is an “overnight success story” that has been 11 years in the making.
I can’t speak to USF’s student-athlete admissions standards, but I can speak for Florida’s. The Gators have been forced to pass on a number of great high school athletes out of Florida since 1990, including the all-time best high school running back (who later played for Tennessee and the Buffalo Bills). If some of these kids get an in-state athletic scholarship at USF, I say good for them, good for their coach and good for their school. Mike Leavitt is a class act, and I am certain that he is coaching these kids up——both athletically and academically.
Go Bulls. Go Gators.
By CKDawg65's conscious
October 15, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Excuse CKDawg65 for calling one theory a “slippery slope”, while hailing the other as fact. The voice of reason is here and based off of this year alone, South Florida would stick it to Vandy, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi St., Ole Miss, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, and Arkansas. They are more than capable of beating Kentucky and Florida. I am starting to think that UF does not want any of USF because the risk would be greater than the reward. Finally, USF would be competitive against LSU at the least. A LSU-South Florida national championship would be great. If USF won, that would take all credibility away from the SEC argument that I do think holds some weight. I, CKDawg65’s Conscious, apologize for not being present when the bottom feeder started speaking and I will make sure it does not happen again.
By War Eagle
October 15, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, in Alabama you have to make a commitment, You are either Auburn or Bama.not any of this Go Tide or Go Auburn, I can hardly write what I just wrote. S. Florida has made great strides in their football program and will continue, but put them in the league with SEC, year in and out, it will be a while. They played like crazy and beat a unsettled Auburn team, but won the football game. Auburn has improved and Bulls also, but Gators are on a two game losing adventure with a young team and possible 8-4 season. There is NO conference in the USA compared to SEC including Pac 10. Auburn plays West Va open game 2008, and it should be interesting..
By John
October 15, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
I vehemently agree South Florida should be #1. Look at the body of work. What about Ohio State’s are people impressed by? Their non-conference schedule was a I-A team, 2 mediocre MAC teams and a so-so Washington. In the league, they beat Purdue who beat no one, Northwestern who can stop no one and Minnesota, who is a trainwreck. No unbeaten can match what USF has done.
-I think Hawaii is a phony. This team is nowhere close to 2004 Utah and 2006 Boise State. I would not be surprised if they lose at Nevada on November 16 and it could end up snowing in Reno that night. June Jones should stop whining about field conditions. The opposition has to play in it too.
By fan
October 15, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
You have truly lost your mind and integrity with that ridiculous comment. No way in Haydes is USF the number one team in college football. Yes, two legitimately challenging games, but that’s it, and that’s all they’ll face. It’s like Miami of old wiping up the Big East. Or FSU cleaning house in the ACC. Put them with year in year out 4-5 big games and they’ll have 2 losses every year guarnteed. USF is no different Tony. I’m honestly aghast you feel that way.
By Tom
October 15, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
Hawaii doesn’t deserve to get in???? What? Was Boise’s schedule tough last year? NOOOO. Who did they beat Wyoming and …Hawaii(barely infact) And look at OSU and BC’s schedules. Abhorrent as well. The haters are seriously not intelligent football fans.
By bamadon
October 15, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO THE RETART VOL FAN FROM STONE MOUTAIN!! GET YOUR BEST INSULTS READY THIS WEEK A*****!!! ROLL TIDE AND NOTHING SUCKS LIKE PHAT PHIL AND THE BIG ORANGE NATION!!!
By Atlanta Gator
October 15, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
War Eagle——Ah, but UF and USF are not rivals, let alone annual conference rivals. The Gators have never played the Bulls in football, so there is no history, no bad blood, no rivalry. USF is merely a sister Florida university.
I can also express a certain Florida noblesse oblige as an alumnus of the best academic university in the State of Florida. That USF has risen so far, so fast in 51 years as a university (and 11 years as a college football team) takes nothing away from UF, and it speaks well of other Florida universities.
That having been said, I do expect some enterprising bowl committee to try to match the Bulls and Gators this year if the Bulls aren’t playing for it all.
Heck, if FSU doesn’t pull their act together soon, maybe the Gators should drop FSU and schedule USF as our new primary in-state rival. Now, that would be a smack-down on a rival … sort of like Auburn dropping Bama off the schedule for Alabama-Birmingham because Bama proved unworthy. Now, that’s the stuff that Tiger dreams are made of. = )
By anonymously amused
October 15, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
bamadon, who are you calling a “retart”?
By bamadon
October 15, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
TO ANONYMOUSLY AMUSED, THERE WAS A A-HOLE VOL FAN ON THIS BLOG DURING THE WEEK OF THE DAWGS AND VOLS GAME. HE CALLED DAWGS AND BAMA FANS SOME STUPID NAMES AND SHOWED HIS A-HOLE!!! HE CLAIMED TO BE FROM STONE MOUNTAIN GA. I HOPE HE JUMPS OFF THE MOUTAIN AFTER BAMA BEATS THE CRAP OUT THE VOLS!!
ROLL TIDE AND GO DAWGS!!!
By NCAAFootball
October 15, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
Hey UGA fan. Medical redshirts happen within the first 4 games, not after more than half the season is over. Don’t overlook that Ga Tech game after T-giving.
By SOS
October 15, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this
Hey SHANE THE MORON…
Last 20 years…
UGA 11 wins, SOUTH CAROLINA 7 wins
(WHAT DOMINANCE!!!)
Bonus trivia:
How many times has Georgia been held without an offensive TD against SC? 3 out of last 7 games
More trivia:
Georgia’s record in last 7 SEC East games: 1-6 (one win against Vandy)
South Carolina’s record in last 7 SEC East games: 5-2
YOU DUMB GEORGIA HICKS…YOU LOST TO CAROLINA AND NOW YOU DELUSIONAL F-CKS ARE RELEGATED TO PUNK STATUS AFTER YOUR PLAYERS CELEBRATED THEIR FIRST WIN IN 7 SEC EAST GAMES BY JUMPING ON THE VANDY LOGO…VANDY!!!
By SOS
October 15, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
HEY PALMETTO STATE DAWG…
Was that you jumping on the Vandy logo Saturday night?
Got a job in Georgia yet?
By Navigator
October 15, 2007 11:21 PM | Link to this
I really hate the good ole boy rankings club. Am I the only one that notices that certain teams lose and only drops 3 or 4 places? Other teams drop 8 to 10 places. Ohio State will not drop out of the top 6 if they lose to Penn State. It keeps them in the running for a BCS game. The Big 10(11) only play rated teams in their own league. That alone should keep them from getting 2 or 3 teams in BCS games. So many say that Oklahoma is may be the best team in the country, why? They beat Texas, who won a 2 point victory over CFU. Last weekend South Florida beat CFU 66-14, and that is the reason they should be number one, forgetting that South Florida beat Auburn and West Virginia, and should be undefeated this season. OSU should hope that they don’t play South Florida in the BCS championship. South Florida may have one of the fastest teams in the country, and may beat them worst than Florida beat them last year.
By Georgia started the Big East Credibility Joke
October 16, 2007 1:13 AM | Link to this
The Big East is a joke and unfortunately, Georgia started the whole d@mn thing when West Virginia beat us in the Sugar Bowl. Notice after that the media constantly referred to WVU’s win over UGA as proof of its power. WE gave that sorry a$$ conference the credibility it now has. BLAME GEORGIA and WILLIE MARTINEZ’S SORRY DEFENSIVE PREPERATION FOR THAT SUGAR BOWL DEBACLE.
By Are you Retarded?
October 16, 2007 1:20 AM | Link to this
**SOS,
You are a fvcking IDIOT! South Carolina has been the cellar dwellars of the SEC since you joined in 1991. Georgia has won 2 SEC Titles and you have, uhhhh, NONE. Shut up and get back to humpin’ your sister.**
By shane
October 16, 2007 2:36 AM | Link to this
looks like there is another shane out there,and a lot of usc{not the real one}fans with even less class than their coach.i never thought i would say this since carolinians have the reputation for being polie and uf fans are known as the most obnoxious in the sec,but i am going to pull for uf to beat the old ball coach.that said,does usf deserve to be number one?no.neither does osu,lsu or anyone else.nobody deserves to be no 1,you earn it on the field.polls are nothing but opinions and all the games haven’t been played,so tony,your opinion is a good as anyone’s,and just as meaningless.there won’t be a real no 1 untill we have a playoff system.one question.who is no 1 in the nfl?do you mean they don’t have polls and vote for their champions?
By Elmo
October 16, 2007 2:42 AM | Link to this
USF beats an middling Auburn Team and plays and beats the Hillbillies in the 10+ turnover game - So now they’re #1 Tony ? Put that joint down cuz !
By shane
October 16, 2007 2:43 AM | Link to this
atlanta gator,i hope you don’t take what i said in that last post personally,you are certainly not included in that group of fans,most of whom never darkened the door at uf,or anywhere.good luck with the obc.
By shane
October 16, 2007 2:46 AM | Link to this
hey ajc,can’t you clean up this blog?there is no excuse for the language on some of these posts.i am outta here!
By steve
October 16, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
The name of the South Florida head coach is JIM Leavitt not MIKE.
By FLA DAWG
October 16, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
The South Florida Bulls are for real and deserve a No. 1 ranking. They play 60 minutes of football. I wish my Dawgs were as prepared as the Bulls for each game. LSU does deserve a shot if they run the rest of their schedule - they have played great ball this year and are probably the best college team out there. Give So. Carolina their due - they have only one loss - LSU. Quite impressive. I’m not so sure they are going to end their regular season with only one loss though. Anyone take a look at the number of SEC losses by SEC schools this year? LSU, UGA, ALA, ARK, SC, FLA, etc. We just beat the crap out of each other. Let’s get the Trojans, Buckeyes, Michigan State, ND, UCLA, Texas, Nebraska, etc to play more games against SEC teams. I don’t think there will be much question who will be No. 1. The SEC playoff will be the National Championship Game most years!
By Jason Cyrus Ohanian
October 16, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
USF’s schedule would be tougher if Florida had agreed to play them. However Florida is ducking them and will not play them which is par for the course for Florida since they did the same thing with Louisville.
Hook Em
By John Radionoff
October 16, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
If ratings are about who you play then why do you overlook the fact that LSU has played 4 top 15 BCS teams and won 3 (Florida, Virginia Tech, South Carolina). It’s only loss was against Kentucky in triple overtime on their field. South Florida has only played 1 top 15 BCS team (West Virginia) and everyone is screaming to make them the best in college football. If LSU beats Auburn (a better team now then when South Florida played them) what will you say?
By Biff
October 16, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Jason, do you know the facts or not? Florida plays USF next year so I don’t how we’re ducking them.
By Biff
October 16, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Jason, do you know the facts or not? Florida plays USF next year so I don’t know how we’re ducking them.
By steve
October 16, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
Initial game scheduled: South Florida at Florida, Sept 11, 2010.
By Atlanta Gator
October 16, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
steve & Biff——The reason why Florida pushed back the initial game with USF was to schedule a two-year home-and-home with the University of Miami, and the renewal of that series has been a long time coming. When the schedule pushback occurred, USF was not exactly the budding national power that they have become. In 2008, Florida has its usually tough SEC schedule plus Miami and Hawaii (which you may know has been b*** about not being able to schedule any quality mainland opponents; well, now they got one). The Bulls can wait a little while longer to play the Gators; keep in mind that it damn near took an act of the legislature to force the first football game with that girls’ school in Tallahassee in 1958.
steve——As you may or may not know, Mike Leavitt is the former Utah governor and Bush’s present secretary of Health & Human Services. Mike is also the older brother of the Bulls’ coach, Jim Leavitt. My apologies for my confusion. I’m getting old. Coach Leavitt, by any name, is still a great football coach and the only coach the Bulls have ever had.
By Darril Fosty
October 16, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
“The BCS rules were relaxed in order to give deserving teams like Boise State in 2006”
Where you not the same guy who said Boise did NOT deserve to be in the BCS last year?
By jason
October 16, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
For those who say USF should be #1 your crazy. I keep hearing how USF plays a hard schedule. Ill give them beating Auburn as a good win. As for West Virginia, please. The whole Big East smells of a Mid Major conference. Rutgers, USF, Cincy, West Virgina. If im not mistaken wasnt that Conference USA a couple of years ago. Ohio State would beat USF as bad as they beat every other mid major they play, by at least 30. This season for OSU reminds me of the 2002 season. Everyone said Ohio State was overrated all year and they ended up winning the national championship. Im not a Buckey fan, but it makes me laughe how many buckey haters there are. We need to face the facts, the buckeyes under Jim tressle will be national champion contender every year. They get way to much talent.
By SOS
October 16, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this
Retarded:
If we don’t take care of FLA for you in ‘05, you’ve got one SEC championship in 25 YEARS…At that rate, South Carolina can play in the SEC another 10 years and still be no further behind the “mighty” Georgia program that has now resorted to dancing on the Vanderbilt logo after a win…
You morons make me wish we laid down for FLA in ‘05…
PS: At least we pump our sisters over here instead of our brothers…Must be the red pants that does it for you boys…
By John
October 17, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this
People will never understand. Ohio State beat NO ONE. They beat 6 mediocre teams and a TRAINWRECK in Minnesota. Minnesota is amongst the THREE WORST teams amongst BCS conferences. Minnesota lost to Florida Atlantic, who lost to USF. Hmmmm.
By John
October 17, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this
jason -
Who has Ohio State beaten that’s better than Auburn and WVU? Youngstown State? Akron? Kent State? Please. Washington? Purdue? Northwestern? Not really. Minnesota? Don’t make me laugh.
It’s not being a Buckeye hater, it’s about questioning their body of work.