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DEL.ICIO.USTuberville second guessing is silly
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Just one man’s opinion:
1. The Tuberville second-guessing is silly: Who has won more close games and games he wasn’t supposed to win than Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville? Fans were second-guessing his decision to run out the clock and go to overtime against South Florida, rather than go for the win with less than a minute left. But football is about playing the percentages. When your offense has turned the ball over five times and your quarterback is not having a good night, the percentages say play for the overtime at home. It didn’t work out because South Florida made the play to win the game. Good for them. But Tuberville played the percentages.
2. Georgia Tech should win the Coastal: Not only have the Jackets looked very impressive in their first two games, but the rest of the ACC’s Coastal Division seems to be in trouble. Virginia Tech switched to a true freshman quarterback after getting blasted (48-7) by LSU. Miami got pummeled (51-13) by Oklahoma. Virginia lost at Wyoming and the Cavs are contemplating QB change. North Carolina lost at East Carolina. Duke has lost 22 straight.
3. College football STILL has the best regular season: If you doubt it, consider this. The season is only two weeks old and already people are painting doomsday scenarios for the BCS. With LSU, Oklahoma and Southern Cal at the top of the polls, the speculation has begun on which team could be the odd man out, like Auburn was in 2004. That’s because in college football every game matters, whether you’re playing Louisiana State or Appalachian State.
4. If Alabama wins, the state will go nuts: Since Nick Saban took the Alabama job fans have been pointing to Saturday’s game with Arkansas as the first real test of his ability to transform the Crimson Tide football program. Just a warning. If Alabama wins Saturday, that place is going to be up for grabs when Georgia goes over there next week. And if Alabama beats Arkansas, they will match up very well with Georgia and Florida State. In fact, if Alabama beats Arkansas, the Tide is capable of beating every team on its schedule except LSU.
5. FIU-Miami should not play: After last year’s ugly brawl, the aftermath of which was mishandled by the Miami administration, a rematch of this game never should have been played. Miami could certainly use an easy win but the risk of another incident is just too great. The good news is that Miami should be a little more disciplined under Randy Shannon.
Comments
By Buford
September 12, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
looking ahead-Can’t imagine what uga would do if beaten by bama.
suggestion: FIU play WCU—- uga play Mia…two good games.
By FluffAlbright
September 12, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Even without the BCS, the college football season would be the best. Some sort of playoff would not diminish the regular season since it would still involve polls in some form. I’m not sure what TB’s opinion is on this but some use the “importance of regular season games” as an argument against a playoff. It’s a bogus argument and we need to scrap the BCS ASAP.
By Roswell Ed
September 12, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Tubby watched his offense implode in the 2nd half.
I still 2nd guess the call.
The Riverboat Gambler was gun shy.
Cox needs his confidence back or he needs to sit for a few series and get his head back in the game.
By Dave-SD
September 12, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
RE: Point 3.
If I have to lose the best regular season (and I’m not sure how a regular season where an undefeated team can easily have no chance to play for the title can rationally qualify as the ‘best’) to get rid of the worst postseason, then let’s do it.
By AL
September 12, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Tony TT is a “snake in the grass” and has been since Ole Miss. Really class act the way he left Oxford. Auburn recruits well enough and has enough Georgia players that Terry Bowden went undefeated. He would be gone if the University President and the boosters hadn’t been so stupid and fired him first before trying to hire somebody. Petrino would probably not gotten in a position to tie the score against South Florida.
By Mike
September 12, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
A high school powder puff team could win the ACC Coastal.
By LB
September 12, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
TB, “…up for grabs”? What does that mean? If Alabama wins Saturday, next week’s Georgia game won’t be up for grabs. Bama can beat the Dawgs, no matter what ol’ Pat Dye says.
By North Ave Pimp
September 12, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
He-humm… a powder-puff team could have also won in Athen’s last Saturday!
By JB
September 12, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Lot’s of Football left to play for Ga. Tech. As a Dawg fan, I can see they have a good team, but Everyone they play knows that and will be up for them…..But they could run the table and sit and watch the national title game like Auburn did. It’s a national Country Club, and only the elite and beautiful are allowed to play. TV pays the bills and the King of “Free hot dog and coke” with a ticket will not pass the network smell test.
By Mike
September 12, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
“He-humm… a powder-puff team could have also won in Athen’s last Saturday!”
A powder-puff team could have also won in Athens on November 25, 2006.
By Pago Pago
September 12, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
The DAWGS look and play soft. It’ll be a loong season. We need to recruit better…HA!
By CrazEbee
September 12, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
I’m pretty sure JB stands for either “Justa Bonehead” or “Jerks Boys”.
By polskidawg
September 12, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
1. The Tuberville second-guessing is silly: Basically, yes. But, TT is so smug it’s hard to like him. Kind of like Roswell Ed…
2. Georgia Tech should win the Coastal: seem so, but I would count out VT or Miami yet. I hate to be a $EC elitist, but the ACC has not been impressive so far.
3. College football STILL has the best regular season: No doubt.
4. If Alabama wins, the state will go nuts: What do you mean “will” go nuts. They’re nuts now, have been nuts for 60 years, and will be nuts in the future regardless of the success or non-success of Coach Saban.
5. FIU-Miami should not play: Last year should only ensure that neither coach nor AD should have a job if it happens again. I seem to remember Clemson and South Carolina had a bad brawl, and had no issues in the rematch.
By War Eagle
September 12, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
“Good for Them”, comment made by Tony Barnhart when S. Florida went on to beat Auburn…though he was a a SEC fan and NOT a PREJUDICE beat writer… CTT is a solid coach 3rd best winning PCT in the country behind USC and Texas last three years, I have faith in him..
By JB
September 12, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Oh yea, latest hot rumor. Les Miles to Michigan in 08 with a national title under his belt and a 4 mil a year contract in hand, and yes, the Ole Ball coach to LSU with the same 4 mil offer. Spurrier at LSU would be Scary. He would take it. He loves a BIG stage and whipping arse.He gone Cocks.And Saban type $$$$$$$…….
By Pat
September 12, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Why do we have to see if Alabama beats Arkansas before deciding how they match up with Georgia? If we now can predict the BCS final 3 for January, why can’t we predict week 4 before week 3? Records aside, don’t Alabama and Georgia usually matchup pretty evenly? Just enjoy all the games being played and save the speculation.
By JB
September 12, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Before everyone blows away my rumor of Spurrier to LSU rumor, My wifes cousin works with a State Regent member who is on the Athletic Board at LSU, and they are aware of What’s going on at Ann Arbor and they know who’s at the top of that list. LSU is already putting together a wish list, and yes, the ole ball coach is at the top of the list. Saban’s contract has changed the landscape. I think the ole ball would listen, regardless of what he says. See Miami Dolphins head Coach Saban for proof, CIRCA DEC. 2006.
By Ramble ON!
September 12, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Tony as long as P. Nix is at Miami, there will be no easy wins.
By Navigator
September 12, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
The ACC is going down because the new coaches are coming in, some want leave, even though their program is suffering (FSU). Virginia coach can recruit, but he can’t coach. North Carolina (new coach) is 2-3 years from challenging anyone for anything. Friedgen is a top assistant only (MD). BC has a new coach. NC State has a new coach. Miami has a new coach. VATech needs a new coach, as their bash mouth style is no longer supported by talent. Right now Clemson and GATech are the class of the league, and neither is ranked higher than 15th. Remember, a few years ago the Big East was in similar shambles, and look where they are now. Everything in sports is cyclic, and the ACC is no different.
By Observer
September 12, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
I am a Tech alum and an ardent fan but let’s not go crowning the Jackets as division champs just yet. So far, they have run all over an undermanned Notre Dame and a mid-level high school team. If they dominate BC Saturday, then I’ll start getting excited.
By gt45
September 12, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Are you not the same Mr Football that didn’t have Tech in your top 25 this fall? Have enough balls to stick to your guns if you are so d@#* brilliant.
By Williams
September 12, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
GT should when the coastal ? We need to be honest with ourselves, GT has not really played anyone yet and to tell you the truth the Boston College game will tell you if they are for real or not. I do think the GT defense is a great one but there offense besides there running backs have not impressed anyone.
By Lee Curso
September 12, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
TT has been exposed. go look at the top 25 recruits in alabama this year and tell me where most of them are going. it’s over tubby. it’s over.
you dang right the state will go nuts. Saban rolled in to BAMA with the best credentials in BAMA history.
this thing will only get bigger and bigger!!!!!!!!!!!! just sit back and watch it.
By TURTSNAP
September 12, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
If “if’s” and “but’s” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a MERRY CHRISTMAS
By SECisFootball
September 12, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
JB…the only reason I think you are incorrect about Spurrier to LSU is because the guy is in his 60 and will be retiring soon. I don’t think he wants to retire without the membership to Augusta National so I just don’t see anymore stops for him anymore. JMHO!
By $aban
September 12, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Curso, bama always recruits well in Alabama. This year they’re doing well for a # of reasons. A. Saban is a good recruiter. B. bama has lots of scholarships to fill. C. Auburn has a little more than half the spots bama has available. That means bama will get more recruits than Auburn. Even in the last few years when we’ve owned bama, it’s still been no better than about 50/50 in state.
AU will be just fine. We’ve never relied on bama solely for recruits anyway. There are 21 players on the team right now from Florida alone.
By FluffAlbright
September 12, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Lee Curso,
TT owns you maggot. Let Saban beat the cow college a couple of times before you start running your toothless mouth.
By Lee Curso
September 12, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
bama always recruits well in Alabama?…u r clueless!
Auburn has a little more than half the spots bama has available…what?…again, cluless.
By Roswell Ed
September 12, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Curso:
I didn’t know that one of the mascot heads you like to wear is a horse’s a$$.
It looks good on you though.
Recruiting Spankers always amaze me.
UA always recruits Al better than AU. AU is more Mont, Mob, Atl, west Ga, Miami and No Fla. In case you weren’t aware, the Crapstone is the state school of Al.
It’s Sept. Start your brag in Feb.
These services always grease the schools that buy more magazines ie Ga, ND, and Al.
If class rank indicated success then UGA would be undefeated every year.
There are plenty of players out there. Don’t worry ‘bout AU in SEPT.
By 2N4YEARS
September 12, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
1) It’s not ‘silly’ to second guess Terriblevile. Know the difference between a ‘Good’ coach and a ‘Great’ coach?? A ‘Good’ coach goes with the percentages and a ‘Great’ coach goes with his Gut. 2) GaTech should win the Coastal Div. Wow. With all of those pathetic teams in the ACC why not? Then they’ll finish the season with a loss to UGA (again), probably lose the ACC Championship game (again) and lose their Bowl game. 3) Yes, College Football does indeed have the best regular season. 4) Yes, ‘BAMA fans will go nutts if they beat ARK. I really don’t see the correlation between beating ARK and ‘matching up’ well with a team that barely beat UAB. And the only way ALA beats UGA is if UGA plays like they did last Saturday. 5) FIU and Miami are more than likely under a contract agreement Mr. Tony, not to mention it’s nearly impossible to find a 12th game to take it’s place. So just explain to the AD’s of the appropriate schools how to do this & I’m just sure they’d listen to you.
By Mike Ford
September 12, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
First off I ran all over Ears and his pansy team he’s fielding this year last saturday…And if Auburn recruits Mobile so well then how come they have ZERO recruits from there this year and Bama has about 5 or 6 so far and will end up with more than that…Also I thought Upshaw,Burton Scott and Undra Billingsly were Barn locks? right now aubarn remembers 5 in a row but what they have forgotten is Bama beat them about 15 times in a row back in the day…that might not be an exact number but I know they had the barn by the a* for YEARS…also Alabama leads every series agains all SEC teams…oh yeah..the barn is on repeat offender status so one more of your mistakes and it’s the death penalty…Auburn fans are the most ignorant fans in the SEC…they have had a good run while Bama has just gone throug the worst 10 yrs of its existance because of false allegations imposed by the SEC,they got to play a Zook ran FLa team a few times,and I don’t know how many times the barn has won a game on bogus phantom flags or no calls to give them the edge in the game…you can’t deny that…Im not even an Alabama fan and I’ll tell you that..a crappy UGA team waxed you on your own field last year..thats the team who lost to vandy and kentucky in the same year…face it Bama is kicking the barns a* in recruiting this year not only in Alabama but with recruits from Florida #2 All purpose QB Star Jackson…A 4* kid from Texas who decommited from A&M to commit to Saban…#2 kicker in the nation already commited and I can almost guarantee you they will get Julio Jones,Jerrell Harris,Glenn Harbin,and the McClain kid from Anniston…Auburn has ONE top recruit in Alabama that the Tide wasnt even in on and Hunt even admitted that Bama hadnt been talking to him so he went ahead and commited to the barn..so way to go auburn you have Hunt and a bunch of Mississippi guys that Coach O and Crooms werent interested in!!! War Eaaaagle Hay!
By War Eagle
September 12, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Hey Lee, need to stick with your comedy crew,aka the “Three stooges” on ESPN and let Auburn do its recruiting. One question, would you concentrate on high school football in Alabama more than Florida, where every school has Jamaican speed? Auburn will sign only 17-19 in 2008.”honk if you have coached at Alabama” its still around.
By Roswell Ed
September 12, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
Mr Ford:
Your not a Bama fan???????
We will then anoint you the world’s largest recruiting spanker.
You sir have enlightened me in 30 seconds on 15 kids I’ve never heard of before.
You’ve probably been watching these kids since they were in diapers.
What distance does your restraining order keep you from pee wee football games?
My god son can you tell me all their 40 times and how many times they can bench press 225?
What are their girlfriends names?
Do they like
wheat or white?
boxers or briefs?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
chocolate or vanilla?
strawberry or grape?
domestic or foreign?
Coke or Pepsi?
I bet you have a dry erase board in your Buffalo Bill style dungeon/basement with a spreadsheet dedicated to all of these questions.
I’ll agree that I surf the AJC sports blogs every hour or two at work to screw with people but that’s it for me.
You sir are committed.
So queue up the REAL MEN of GENIUS voice and the background singer as we salute you:
Mr world’s largest NCAA football recruiting spa-a-nker.
By Roswell Ed
September 12, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
By the way Mike:
UA’s winning % against AU is all of 54.3%. 38-32-1 WOO freaking HOO!
The winning streak was 9 games which AU is over half way there.
PLEASE DON’T LET ME CONFUSE YOU WITH THE FACTS.
Now go on and start telling me about the 12 NC.
I’m especially impressed with the ‘43 Better Homes and Garden NC.
Be proud BAMMER FANS your tradition is 2nd to only 3 or 5 programs but you did not hang the moon and neither has Saban.
By GT
September 12, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
You don’t hear anybody saying South Florida was good last weekend. We kind of are at the funeral and we are not mentioning the corpse. I think South Florida was a better team than the one that won in Athens Saturday night, lots of talent. I don’t like Virginia Tech changing that quarterback that was the problem for Va. Tech just like Ball was the problem for Tech last year. Va. Tech is going to be a different team with a mobile quarterback. A crazy quarterback can do a lot of damage while a less talented one that plays within himself and on a team with a good defense might not get in the way of a victory. Ain’t nothing ever been like college football. I feel sorry for those Yankees that think they have seen it. The only reason Miles would go to Michigan is he wants to retire in peace, which he will never get in the SEC no matter how good he gets. Up there you can fake it and the press hypes it up, here you have the reality of having to play somebody every week. Nick Saban at Alabama is a perfect example. Dawgs use to have a breather when they played South Carolina or Alabama. Both went out and hired real coaches and now even without LSU, Georgia may have the hardest schedule in the SEC if not the country. And when the brothers of the SEC get through chewing on them here comes Tech. All this stuff about Georgia being young, the truth is there are no creampuffs in the conference any more. Mississippi State will hire somebody next year and pay him 4 million. The funny thing about the Miami/FIU game is FIU might stop fighting long enough to beat Miami. Anybody that would hire Pat Nix as an offensive coordinator is not all here and that was after Ball threw into the stands on fourth down at Georgia and after Calvin Johnson left Tech never beating Georgia. Exactly what was on the resume that Miami saw, maybe O’Leary wrote the thing for Nix. Whatever that was then and this is now and we have Bond and we are good.
By USF
September 12, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this
Thanks GT,
“You don’t hear anybody saying South Florida was good last weekend. We kind of are at the funeral and we are not mentioning the corpse. I think South Florida was a better team than the one that won in Athens Saturday night, lots of talent.”
Curious…besides place kicker what position is Auburn better at than USF (University of South Florida).
By Lee Curso
September 12, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this
why are auburn fans so stupid? you just got you @$$ handed to you at your house on national tv by south florida, SOUTH FLORIDA! STFU!!!!!!
By USF
September 12, 2007 8:35 PM | Link to this
1.You should be complimenting Tuberville for getting his inferior team to OT. 2.Little early for that prediction. No one in the ACC is half as good as Oklahoma or LSU. The games thus far prove nothing. 3.Why, because the conclusion of the season is determined by people voting on perceptions? I guess when the way of determining who the best team is, is so silly you better be entertained by the regular season.
4.I am thinking the Auburn fans in Alabama won’t be all that excited if Alabama wins.
5.Love to see another fight down in Miami. Both those teams suck anyway, a fight would be the highlight.
4.
By War Eagle
September 12, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
Mike ford, Jones, McClain are only two you mention Auburn will offer. Both good players, but I will bet you the bank Julio Jones is Auburn or LSU bound. Bama has commitments from 5 WR receivers, who Auburn offered only two of those. Auburn clean Mobile out last year which two are playing as true freshman. I agree with Roswell, you are not a Bama fan…lets try one of those Bryant past drooler. Bama did well under a coach Bear bryant, but they will never reach that pedestal again especially with Suitcase Saban. We have 6 commitments from Florida, 1 from Miss. Bama will lose next 2 out three, maybe all three if Arky gets the running game going….good luck against Houston and Lousiana-Monroe, good game with Western Carolina.SIX IN ROW COMING UP.
By Jim
September 12, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
Ed-
That’s great Ed now everyone knows that you can actually divide and use font. Dumb, Dumber and Roswell Ed.
I think it’s time for Lowder to fuel up the jet again hehehe.
By auburn91
September 12, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this
Well said Mr. Barnhart. The crazies have come out this week.
http://www.trackemtigers.com/
By Roswell Ed
September 12, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this
How much did y’all have to pay the MPD to cover up the bludgeoning death of Logan Young?
Now that’s what a Bammer fan base can get you.
And I quote:
“Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.
Blood was everywhere.
Later it was reported as a suicide.
Did they have Phil Specter’s excuse team working for them?
By Bammer is Bull
September 12, 2007 10:52 PM | Link to this
Bammer is sick, sick, sick. Lord, Bammer is sick. No wonder it is the state school for a sick, sick state.
By Lee Curso
September 13, 2007 6:13 AM | Link to this
HAHAHA, cant get BAMA off your mind can ya? i love it! Logan Young? LOL! who cares moe-ron. i mean, Ironside. LOL!
Moooooooooooooooooooooo………….
By SECisFootball
September 13, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
WarEagle…I would take that bet on Julio Jones. Everyone one who even remotely follows recruiting knows that it is a BAMA and FSU race. LSU is in the running still but your beloved TigerEaglePlainsmen have NO SHOT AT ALL. AU will end up with a decent recruiting class for the simple reason that you guys has what, 11 not qualify last year and you have a FANTASTIC sociology department that will make sure they remain eligible when they finally do qualify.
The is no denying the great success AU has had over the last 5 years. Ironically it has been the same years which ALABAMA was on probation. You guys have shown for 2 straight weeks that you offense is pathetic and that you guys are in a for a 7-8 win season. But hey…at least you have won five in a row against Alabama..right?
By War Eagle
September 13, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
SEC fan , nice post, I agree with you, our “offense is pathetic and you guys are in for 7-8 season” BUT one of those wins will be Bama. next year same, Auburn had not lost a game in 100 years( check your results) in beloved Bryant Denny stadium…7 in row…
By Don
September 16, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
RIVERBOAT GAMBLER HAS A LEAK IN HIS RIVERBOAT