Mr. College Football

By Jofran

August 13, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Tony you ignorant moron, what was the ‘mighty’ SEC’s bowl record vs the ‘slow’, ‘inferior’ BIG10? What’s that the ‘mighty’ SEC was only 1-2 vs the slow confrence? You haven’t forgotten HEAVY favorites UT and Arky losing to PSU and Wisc have you.

All the title game showed was that Flordia was better prepared and came to play while the Buckeyes didn’t. Heck the only player on either team who was clearly on a seperate level from his peers speed-wise was Ginn (he played for the Buckeyes, btw).

As for ‘cleaning clocks’ in recruiting, any KNOWLEDGABLE fan knows the classes are ‘rated’ mostly on how many kids sign, and since SEC teams routinely sign classes 3-5 or even more oven the 25/year limit (knowing that not all will qualify, or prepared to cut a few of them loose) while BIG10 teams DO NOT DO THIS! This is the ONLY reason the SEC has highly rated classes every year. If you ranked the classes by average stars you’d find that the top big ten teams recruit just as well as the top SEC teams.

If you want to call yourself ‘mr college football’ you might want to have some knowledge about things beyond ‘woooo SEC RULEZ!!!!’ and ‘gosh those midwestern boys sure are slow’ The AJC’s few remaining readers can find insightful comentary like that on any SEC message board.

By Apaul404

August 13, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Bottom line, the big ten should be called the big two. I have no problem with a school signing more kids than they have room for because these kids are young and some of them tend to find a way to not make it on campus. So why should your program suffer for an 18 year olds immaturity.

By narfoj

August 13, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

Wow, more whining from a big 10 fan who would have expected that? Ted Ginn is so quick it took a hold on Reggie Nelson to spring him for the lone highlight in OSU’s dismantling. Go Big Ten, please, please continue to line up overhyped teams for BCS games, its so much fun watching the midwesterners try and come up with excuses.

By Eric

August 13, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

jofran is the pot calling the kettle black….me thinks he’s the ignorant moron….are you sure your name isn’t george w bush?

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

I know this will seem impossible since I have a lowly SEC education but I actually feel dumber after reading posts 1 and 4.

Hey jofran if you like watching inferior football that’s fine. You can rationalize it all you want to but if you find Slo 10 football as exciting as the SEC then you must also enjoy the turtle races.

Eric- you sound like you don’t like the pres too much. Are you one of these great American jackasses that knows the only way for you to make your point is if we are whipped and have to drag our tail home from Iraq? How proud I am to know that you are one of my fellow Americans!!

What a great group of constituants you have. If America wins it can only be bad for my party.

Shame on you and your ilk.

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

By 19 Days...

August 13, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Tony, It is great to see you call out the Big 10 commish on a regional/national stage. You do a fine job. Keep up the good work.

By austindog

August 13, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

The big bad Slow10 needs to man up and get itself a conference title game (whaaa, it’ll hurt our BCS title game chances, whaaaa).

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

What would they call the two divisions?

SLOW and SLOWER?

By ARdawg

August 13, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

The Big 2 and the low 8?

By cfbFan

August 13, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

please Harbaugh just feel slighted over not getting a job at Michigan. He’s also building excuses now that he sees the talent at Stanford. He’s already bad mouthed Pete Carroll and USC too.

Also if Michigan brings in lesser student athletes. Why did Harbaugh JUST accept the transfer of a former Michigan QB(soph) to Stanford???

By austindog

August 13, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

The two divisions would be called “the one with Michigan and Ohio State” and “the one with Wisconsin, Minnesota, and some other teams I forget”

By cfbFan

August 13, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

also FWIW.

The Big Ten is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last five years.

13-13 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last decade.

By romeo

August 13, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Hey Jofran, When was the last time Ohio State beat an SEC team? And when was the last time UGA lost to a Big 10(?) team?

By Mike

August 13, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

I’m tired of people using academics as an excuse when their football teams can’t cut the mustard on the field (cough…Georgia Tech….cough). The bottom line is all football programs cut corners to let their football recruits in school. Quit using it as a crutch when a vastly superior football team waxes your own. It is possible to have great academics and great football at the same time. Southern Cal immediately comes to mind. I don’t hear them crying about how tough academics holds them back.

The SEC is often unfairly singled out: We can’t beat them so they must be cheating. Frank Beamer and Jim Delany should get together and form a support group for those traumatized by the SEC. Georgia Tech fans would sign up in a heartbeat. What a bunch of babies.

By Max

August 13, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

This blog is about SEC and Big 10 recruiting and some UGA moron JUST HAS to bring GT into the mix. Whose the baby???

By Jay from Conyers

August 13, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Roswell Ed,

Yeah, and the two SEC divisions are DUMB AND DUMBER! Please, outside of Vanderbilt, which suffers on the football field btw, NO SEC schools are in the top 50 academic-wise…while there are about 9 out of the 11 Big Ten schools in the Top 50.

By JJ

August 13, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Give me a break — obvious Dawg fan and all others of the SEC — brain-dead football players society.

Reality — “not all football programs cut corners to let football recruits in”. If that were so, then Vandy, Rice, Northwestern, Duke, and Stanford wouldn’t be pumping out 95 % graduation rates (for the football team) with the vast majority 85%+ going onto real graduate school degrees. Stanford admissions (as I well know, being a grad school graduate there who knew people working in admissions) doesn’t even bother considering a football recruit if he doesn’t meet very,very high minimums in GPA and SAT/ACT.

If you think SEC schools would like the light shined on the majors and classes of their football players — as compared to the Big10 or PAC10 you’ve got another thing coming. The SEC commish didn’t take the high road — he took the smart road. If he had said one thing, he would have suddenly brought attention to that which is questionable academics in SEC schools.

I lived in the Atlanta area for 10 years— thankfully getting out of yeehaw-ville. I know how the recruiting game goes and how pervasive football overwhelms high school athletics and any care about having real academics. As for knocking Ga Tech — at least they don’t have the “easy majors” available to Dawg athletes. Go look at a Tech roster. The “easiest” major you’ll find is management. Look deeper for the other usual “football” majors— Sociology? -nope, Communications?-nope, Rec and Leisure (a Florida St favorite)?- nope, Physical Ed? - nope.

Most SEC fans couldn’t care less about their favorite schools academics — because a. they themselves couldn’t get into the local community college, let alone a university. b. they certainly don’t then give a darn about taking the ethical high road and having a mediocre/bad team vs having a winner.

And you won’t see Tony Barnhart or anyone else from the newspapers or tv/radio push this, since they know that the backlash against their papers or stations would be overwhelming.

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

The Big Ten does have better academics than the SEC but the SEC ain’t chopped liver.

If you look at US News and World Report rankings, Vandy would be 2nd in academics in the Big 10(the conference that can’t count by the way) UF would be 4th ahead of OSU, and UGA would be 7th.

Tenn, UA and AU are also in the top 90 nationally and UK and USC are in the top 115 nationally.

The only true SEC football power that didn’t make the top 125 was LSU.

Remember smart guy. Nobody ever paid a dime to watch the debate team!!

By Jay from Conyers

August 13, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

You’re right, I was just making a point. Maybe you should think for a second as to why the SEC gets better recruits than the Big Ten…academics are a HUGE reason!

Also, before you call the Big Ten the Slow Ten, I seem to recall Brian Calhoun, Brandon Williams, Travis Beckum, and the rest of Wisconsin run circles around the mighty Auburn Tigers two seasons ago! Just refreshing your memory!

By 2N4YEARS

August 13, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Eric : While I think that Tony’s comments hit Jofran right in the gut, bringing politics into CFB is, well, moronic. George W. Bush a moron?? While there are plenty things that I disagree with GWB about, calling him a ‘moron’ shows how stupid you really are. I know this probably hits YOU in the gut Eric, but GWB is a very smart guy —a lot smarter than Kerry & You. You disagree?? tell me what your life accomplishment are. (blogging on the acj doesn’t count)

By GradyGrad96

August 13, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

hey Tony, I have been postulating an idea that has yet to take hold. We have an old argument here. Which is better, SEC or Big 10 (or 11)? Being a UGA Grady grad I’m sort of partial to SEC. But I have gone a step further and have a proposal. No one will ever take it and run with it. But I think it is a sound idea.

ACC and Big East use to have a basketball challenge every year. Why not have the SEC and Big 10 have a football challenge. Rank team in the conferences 1-12 (or 1-11). Then have the 1’s play each other. 2’s play each other, and so on.

Personally, I would love to see these done on a team’s home turf. But I don’t know how well that would work. So, I would leave that idea up to the Conf commishes to decide.

I think this would generate a heck of a lot of publicity. Heck of a lot of money. And I am fairly certain the fans would love it. I know SEC fans are willing to take on any team anywhere. Even the bad SEC teams. But, like I said, I’m partial to the SEC.

If the idea were to go over well, I would like to see the SEC do something similar with Big 12, Pac 10, or any conference that wants to try and hang.

Just my thoughts. One other item. My personal opinion is that if a conf does not have a conference championship game, they should not be elligible for the BCS title game. And ND needs to get a real schedule, join a real conference and quit scheduling the service schools. The latter will never happen, but hey, it’s just a blog.

By 2N4YEARS

August 13, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

JJ , glad you’re leaving. Where too?? Hope not not moving up north because I laugh my a$$ off every time someone says something about the South being redneck, hickville, heehawville or whatever, bcause there are more mohawk wear’in, missing teeth, tatooed too much mullet hair people up North than I’ve ever seen in the South. And just a little ‘FYI’…The SEC has a much better record over those weak, over-rated Big Ten teams. Go ahead and move…I know it must be hard to live with the truth. You must have had nightmares after that whipping FLA put on “#1 OHIO ST 41-14. lol

By Jay from Conyers

August 13, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Grady,

You make some great points in your SEC/Big Ten challenge…I think that would be a great idea. Then maybe the other conferences could do something similar, such as ACC/Big 12 and Pac 10/Big East, etc.

I think you’re wrong to say Notre Dame doesn’t have a real schedule, however. They play Michigan, Purdue, Mich State, and USC EVERY year…that’s not too shabby. Plus, they’ll play Oklahoma the next two years and they play Penn State, GA Tech, and UCLA this year, too!

By UFheartsUGA

August 13, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Seems the Big 10 fans have plenty of excuses.

To the guy who said Ted Ginn was the fastest on the field in Tempe I think Percy Harvin would have something to say about that.

The fact is Academic standards from Athletes in the Big 10 and the SEC are pretty much equal. There are also several players (Larry Grant) who the Big 10 has accpeted and were not qualified to play in the SEC due to specific academic requirements.

DOnt act like B10 athletes are any more educated or intelligent than those anywhere else. Maurice Clarrett ring a bell? Andy Katzenmoyer couldnt spell C-A-T if you spotted him the C and the A.

Like I said excuses from the top of the league on down to the fans.

By NASCARfan

August 13, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

People keep on pointing to Bowl records, which are a VERY decieving stat.

Many times, no matter how much the coaches of teams try and get their KIDS (13 to 22 year old KIDS) to not, many times, players get bummed out by the bowls they are playing in due to previous expectations. Many times, it’s the fans and boosters who provide the impetusfor the kids to feel down.

Also, the media has perpetuated the myth that if you don’t play in a BCS Bowl, or if you don’t play on New Year’s Day, your bowl doesn’t matter.

So what happens? Many teams don’t play well. Remember Tennessee from 2003 when they expected to play in the Capitol One Bowl (Citrus) and instead had to play in the Peach? They go destroyed.

When Auburn played Wisconsin two years ago, they had expected to play in the SEC Championship Game and a BCS Bowl. They didn’t. And they played listless in their bowl game.

When Texas got SCREWED out of a BCS Bowl some years ago, a far inferior Cal Bears team absolutely crushed them in the Holiday Bowl.

Human nature plays very much into how teams play in bowls. Remember the 2005 Sugar Bowl? Everyone and their mama, the media, the fans, and I’m sure a few coaches, were telling Greg Blue and the Georgia defense that WVU wasn’t going to be able to hang with their SEC Speed. What happened? The came out cocky and found themselves down 28-0 before they got their heads screwed on straight and held WVU to 10 points the rest of the game.

Which Georgia defense was the REAL defense? The cocky kids who didn’t think they’d have to play hard to dominate? Or the humbled guys who held a scoring machine to 10 points over 3 quarters?

So when you talk about bowl records, they are misleading.

You need to go back (and I don’t want to do it, I have a life) and look at the winning percentages in regular season games. Now, I do know that Georgia hasn’t lost to a Big 2 team in decades. In fact, we keep on trying to get Michigan to play us but the scared little babies won’t agree to a fair deal. They want us to play twice at their place. They’re scared of the big, bad southern fans, I guess.

So that should tell you more than you need to know. When Ohio State scheduled Texas, Texas wasn’t nearly as powerful as they were when Ohio State played them.

When we scheduled Colorado, they were perenial division winners. Unfortunately, they didn’t stay that way.

We scheduled Oregon to play us after they came off of a No. 2 ranked season. How is that dodging good teams, people? But do you know what happened in the interrim? We won two SEC Championships, so Oregon pulled out. Who’s the chicken in THAT scenerio?

We TRIED once again to schedule Michigan to fill that gap. They refused, so we scheduled Arizona State, who now has a great college coach, so maybe when we play them, it’ll be somewhat like the lucky coincidence that happened with Ohio State and Texas. Because in the next few years, we’re going to have some great football teams.

So, you Big 2 loving morons, why don’t you apply a little logic to every situation and realize that raw numbers are always very misleading if you never take human nature into account.

Why are regular season games between highly ranked teams ALWAYS better games than the Holiday Bowl, when the better team is bummed out because they go screwed out of a BCS Bowl?

Hmmm… let me think about that.

Idiots.

By cfbfan

August 13, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

NASCARfan,

stick to Nascar buddy and quit making excuses. Bowl games misleading b/c of “bummed out college kids” ?? Are you serious?

Bottom Line:

Bold:**The Big Ten is 8-6 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last five years.

13-13 vs. the SEC in bowl games over the last decade.**

Looks pretty even to me. Big Ten is doing just fine.

By NASCARfan

August 13, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Once again, moron, why don’t you take the winning percentage for regular season games?

So I guess to you, human nature has NOTHING to do with the outcome of games?

I guess human nature DIDN’T take over in the UF - OSU Mythical Nat’l Championship Game, and Ohio State is just REALLY that bad.

I mean, really, REALLY bad. Because according to your brilliant thinking, human nature had nothing to do with the Ohio State kids packing it in. They were just really that bad, and really that overrated.

Right?

Idiot. Why don’t you try using your brain every once in awhile. You know… it’s that lump of sh!t three feet above your @$$.

By mountain fan

August 13, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Junior, (yea you nascarfan), WV let up.

By War Eagle

August 13, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

I few years back, maybe two or three, I read a article where the overall Big Ten and SEC games played were 33-19 SEC. I know the bowl records favor the SEC. Where is stat man when needed?

By NASCARfan

August 13, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Uh, oh, everyone cover their butts (literaly), the inbred mountain folk have descended on the blog.

Yeah, mountain fan, y’all let up so much that y’all decided to fake a punt in a do or die situation because everything was hunky-dorey.

Dude, isn’t it time for you to sweep your Appalacian front yard?

By Jay from Conyers

August 13, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

NASCAR,

Let me get this right, when the SEC beats the Big Ten in a game it is legit, but when the Big Ten beats the SEC the SEC kids weren’t ready or were discouraged because they didn’t get a better bowl? Please! That is a typical SEC excuse, made especially by dimwits like you! Fine, I’ll turn your pathetic excuse around and say that, back in 2001 or ‘02, when Michigan got blasted by Tennessee, Michigan didn’t really want to be there, they should have acheived the Rose Bowl instead! But I’m not going to, because I admit defeat where it is due…and Michigan got beat down that day, no denying that! You see, us Big Ten fans can at least admit when we didn’t have it (Ohio State in the title game, for instance), but you jerk-offs can’t and won’t admit it. You just make pathetic excuses when you lose, and that’s typical of most SEC fans. Oh, and if you want Georgia to have some legit opponents in the future, give Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez a call, he’ll gladly work something out with you, or JoePa over at Penn State…he’s got a little history with UGA (1982 ring a bell?), and he’d jump at the opportunity!

BTW, I spoke to a buddy of mine who went to and is a big fan of Auburn and he told me that when Wisconsin tore them apart, they were the fastest opponent they had faced ALL SEASON (and that includes LSU, Georgia, Bama, etc.)! Hmmm, that tell you something? Speed is EVERYWHERE, not just in SEC-land!

By Bob

August 13, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

War Eagle,

OVerall SEC vs Big Ten is 61-70. This only includes Arkansas and S.Carolina games since they joined the SEC and Penn State games since they joined the Big 10.

SEC Records vs Big Ten (Ohio State) Bama 5-4 (3-0) Ark 1=4 Aub 6-3 (1-0) Fla 8-3 (1-0) UGA 7-1 (1-0) UK 20-23(0-2) LSU 6-3-1 (0-1-1) Miss 0-2 MSU 1-6 S.Car 2-0 (2-0) UT 7-5 (1-0) Vandy 4-16

SEC record in bowls almost 2-1 in favor of SEC. Most SEC losses were regular season games Vandy vs Michigan and UK vs Indiana.

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

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By Bob

August 13, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Jay from Conyers,

You are correct, that is a limp excuse for losing. Lots of times teams go to various bowls and it is a disappointment and they play to that level. Happens to teams from all conferences.

I was at that Wisconsin Auburn game and I would not agree at all that Wisconsin was just as fast. They were clearly more physical, but they were not faster. Same last year with Arkansas. On the other hand, those are the only two wins the Badgers have managed against SEC teams in bowl games.

Michigan would have played Georgia, but not home and home. When you have the 5th largest on campus stadium you don’t have to go begging to play at the opponents home field. I do think one reason you now don’t see many SEC-Big Ten matchups is because of the Outback and Capital One contracts. Really don’t think either conference is that thrilled about a regular season meeting and therefore you see more and more SEC matchups with the PAC 10, Big 12, Big East and of course the geographical link to the ACC.

Michigan has the Big Ten’s best record versus the SEC, albeit mostly made up of 11 wins against Vandy. The Dawgs have the best SEC record against th Big Ten. They have never lost a bowl game to the Big Ten (2-0 vs Wisconsin; 2-0 vs Purdue; 1-0 vs Ohio State and 1-0 vs Michigan State). Penn State was an independent when the two met for the only time in 82.

By RufustheRoadRunner

August 13, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

The Slow 10? That’s funny….ask Darren McFadden (fastest player in the SEC) how slow Jack Ikegwuonu was when he ran him down from behind to save a touchdown.

And as for Auburn not showing up two years ago, what’s worse getting your butt kicked because of inferior talent or not showing up when as a college player you only get to play 13 games a year? Either way, Wisco smoked ‘em.

By Bob

August 13, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

War Eagle,

Correction on that SEC-Big Ten record. SEC has won 67, not 61. Big Ten has won 70. Again, these are only games involving teams that were in their respective conferences when they met. For example, Penn State has done well against Tennessee lately. The overall record is close, but their losses to UT occured when Penn State was independent. Bama has great record against Penn State, but those wins also came against the Nittany Lions when they were independent. Similarly, I did not count Joe Pa’s 1982 Sugar Bowl win over Georgia because they were independent. Arkansas and South Carolina have more victories against Big Ten Teams, but they occurred prior to 1992.

By Jay from Conyers

August 13, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Bob,

Hmmm, funny, I saw Brian Calhoun rip right through Auburn’s “fast” defense to the tune of well over 200 yards of total offense…looked fast to me! True, we were more physical in the Arkansas game, but that’s what it took! Many games are won/lost in the trenches and they won that in the trenches.

Yeah, Wisconsin has only won 2 bowl games vs. the SEC, but only one game was a total blowout (‘96 vs. UGA), the ‘03 Auburn loss was tied mid-way through the 3rd Quarter, but then Auburn poured it on at the end. All the others were very close (‘81 vs. Tenn), (‘84 vs. Ky), (‘04 vs. UGA) that could have gone either way, but didn’t…no excuses. But, only in the ‘96 UGA game was the talent-level that skewed, all the others were even-matched.

I realize Penn State was an independent in ‘82, but when have SEC’ers ever referred to Penn State as “fast?” They don’t call Penn State “Linebacker U” for nothing! FYI, Penn State will play Alabama in a home/home I believe either starting next year or in 2009, so that should be interesting!

By Matt

August 13, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

It’s hilarious to read the differences between Big Ten fans and SEC fans in this blog. The SEC fans throw insults and make no sense whatsoever, and the Big Ten fans generally use reasoned logic to get their point across. I can’t wait to hear the impassioned responses to what I’m saying from the imbreds …

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

The only thing I saw faster than the AU players at the game were the Badger ladies tearing it to the snack line at half time to load up on corn dogs and funnel cakes.

Number one reason why SEC players are smarter than Slo 10’s players- Who the f—< would go to someplace with cold weather and fat ugly women over beautiful women and sunshine? Only a dumba$$. No offense.

I don’t want to use an emotion excuse but here goes. Wasn’t that AU-Wisc game the last one for the Badger’s most successful coach ever? What’s the over/under for win 1 for the GIPPER speeches that week.

On any given Sat. Please stop using that reference as the Slo 10 is better than the SEC!!

By RufustheRoadRunner

August 13, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Roswell Ed,

You are the only one making excuses…again, ask Darren McFadden how slow Wisconsin is…he was caught from behind…and yeah, Alabama women are all skinny, beautiful and intelligent…well, two out of three at least….

By NASCARfan

August 13, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Dude… Conyers Boy, did I say what you’re accusing me of saying?

No. I said Bowl records are not as clear cut as many of you make them out to be.

That goes BOTH ways you moron. When did I say different?

Man, you Big 2 fans sure are smart. Your reading comprehension skills are through the freaking roof!

By Lee

August 13, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

Sadly, NONE of the leagues have taken the high road when it comes to the STUDENT athlete and academics.

Here’s the thing, there is not much difference between the #6 team and the #25 team. Coaches know this and they also know that 2-3 high impact players can mean the difference between being a 2nd tier team or being a top 5 team and in contention for the mythical national championship.

When millions of dollars are at stake, most coaches are going to do what it takes to get those players on the field.

When you watch college ball on a Saturday, it is a fair assumption that a good percentage of those college STUDENTS have no business on a campus without a mop and broom in hand.

Harbaugh merely stated publicly what many of us already know.

By mountain fan

August 13, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this

Roswell Dead, you and junior are the experts exchange…you should choose a domain name of www.expertsexchange.com!

By Seeing Red

August 13, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this

Hey Jay from Conyers! You’re right…..Brian Calhoun DID rip through Auburn’s defense for close to 200 yards, but are you also aware that Brian Calhoun was born and raised in ATL? Yep, sounds like good ol’ southern speed transported to the midwest to me. Are you also aware that some of Ohio State’s fastest players over the past few seasons have come from FLA? Santonio Holmes and Chris Gamble to name a few. I’m not on here to bash you or the Big 10 b/c I really couldn’t care how many times the Big 10 has beaten the SEC or vise versa. All I know is the Bulldogs haven’t lost to a Big 10 team in a long time and to me that’s all that matters. And didn’t this forum start out on the basis of recruiting? How did it become an argument over head to head win-loss match up?

By War Eagle

August 13, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

Any stats on Vandy and Kentucky vs Big Ten only? No excuses on last Wisconsin-Auburn game, but several players had “night before problems”, plus DC got into a fight at a party and had serious cut on his face. CTT fired him soon afterwards.

By SEC SPEED

August 13, 2007 9:16 PM | Link to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prTdlH2TN0M

Just as funny now as it was then.

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 9:18 PM | Link to this

Heaven- watching the SEC Nov 24th weekend:

AU-UA

LSU-Ark

FSU-UF

UGA-Tech

USC-Clem

Thank you Jesus

Hell- having to watch the Slo 10 weekend of Oct 20:

Mich-Ill

PSU-Ind

Iowa-PU

MSU-OSU

No Dak ST- Minn

No Ill- Wis

Please Satan gouge my eyes out!

That same weekend of Oct 20 *UT plays UA and LSU plays AU. * Enjoy your weekend Slo 10. I know I can’t wait——for the SEC!! On a slow SEC weekend there are more enjoyable games than the whole Slo 10 schedule.

Isn’t there a pig farm in Iowa that is missing you guys?

By Roswell Ed

August 13, 2007 10:30 PM | Link to this

Bap-Bap

Is this thing on?

There is no such thing as a slow SEC weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Sandy

August 14, 2007 1:08 AM | Link to this

Ohio State is 0-8 vs the SEC in bowl games. And it was a good thing your big ten did not have to play LSU.

By Jay from Conyers

August 14, 2007 6:43 AM | Link to this

Sandy,

Oh yeah? I’ll bet you said the same thing after the ‘04 season too when Iowa beat them, right?

Oh, and Roswell Dead-Head,

How did I know you would come up with some lame-brain excuse for your Auburnites getting pummelled by Wisconsin? I told you, that’s just the way you SEC morons are…never give credit where credit is due, just make excuses and look like a jack@$$!! I remember reading in another post you said the reason why USC kicked your Auburnites @$$es was becuase of a coaching controversy too! Another typical loser excuse. Never mind that USC killed them 24-0 in YOUR backyard! So I guess it isn’t just a Big Ten thing, no, when you guys lose to anybody, it’s time to think of more excuses! Hahahaha, what a joke you morons are! Remember what cfbfan said before and let it sink into your thick skulls:

8-6 Big Ten vs SEC in past 5 years

13-13 Big Ten vs SEC in past 10 years

Let that sink in one more time! Go declare your dominance over the ACC, Big East, or Sun Belt somewhere else because ANY other word you type in your defense makes you look that much more stupid!

By JoeDawg

August 14, 2007 7:59 AM | Link to this

Hey Jofran,………………………

Dude quit kidding yourself. You know that was a very rare thing to be 2-1 vs the SEC. The SEC doesn’t usually lose to the big slow….I…I mean the big ten.

By Mike

August 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Concerning some of the responses: What - USC (SoCal) & academics? Oh that’s right a certain QB took one class “Ballroom Dancing” to stay elgible - ha cost him millions! Hey guns are the tools of freedom - if you can’t read the constitution you wasted thousands of your parents dollars. And some Northern inDependant schools actually believe in the oxymoron that is college football today - Student Athlete. What is the graduation rate for both conferences anyway. And don’t forget to include minority students - the south still has a problem with that - - - ask Neil Young.

By MichiganDawg

August 14, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this

I’m a Michigan and Georgia alum….. I can tell you this, Vandy, Georgia, and Florida are as good as most of the big ten schools, PERIOD!!! Those three are better academically then OSU, Indiana, Purdue, and probably Wisonsin…. I’ve lived in both Michigan and Atlanta, Georgia and I know the schools in both confrences very well…. THE SEC HAS A BAD REP BECAUSE OF SCHOOLS LIKE AUBURN, MISS STATE, AND OLE MISS WHO ARE ALL A JOKE ACADEMICALLY!!!!

By br

August 15, 2007 7:40 AM | Link to this

Mike,

The QB you refer about taking Ballroom Dancing is none other than Matt Leinart. But let me tell you this. He did not take it “just to stay eligible” as you say and to skate by. He was a 5th year senior (redshirted his freshman year) who had completed all of his required courses and graduated early, end of his 4th year. He came back for his 5th season because he wanted a chance to repeat (actually 3-peat) and came a hair short. What is wrong with that? You say he cost himself millions, but I say kudos for being one of the very few of today’s players who play for 4 seasons…isn’t that what we want to tell college kids, to play 4 years and get your degree? And besides, with the endorsements he gets now, I highly doubt he’s entering the poorhouse any time soon!