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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Birmingham — The SEC Football Media Days kicked off today. Yes, there will be a lot of talk about Xs and Os, starting quarterbacks and all the other usual stuff. But here are the five things I really want to learn in the next three days:
1. How many Alabama state troopers will it take to get Nick Saban into the Wynfrey Hotel?
The Crimson Tide’s coach is always greeted like a rock star by the adoring faithful at this event. After 92,138 showed up at the spring game, we are expecting a pretty serious mob Thursday morning when Saban arrives here and addresses the media. I’m guessing a minimum of five members of Alabama’s finest will be clearing the way.
2. Will Arkansas coach Houston Nutt bring his cell phone?
Since an overzealous Razorback fan used the Freedom of Information Act to get and widely distribute Nutt’s phone records, I figure he had gone back to just using pay phones and carrier pigeons. I do know this: For a guy who won 10 football games last season, there are an awful lot of people in this league wondering about his future in Fayetteville.
3. Will Les Miles, that wild and crazy guy, go off on the Pac-10 again?
Miles had the audacity to suggest earlier this month that a team that had to play in a conference championship game, like LSU from the SEC, had a tougher road to the BCS championship game than a Pac-10 team that didn’t, like Southern Cal. Some things are pretty self-evident. I thought it was a rare moment of clarity from a coach who gets rapped for being deathly dull. Oh by the way. Miles is getting a little tired of hearing that he’s won 22 games in two years with Nick Saban’s players.
4. How many times will Urban Meyer be asked if Florida can defend its national championship?
And how many times will Meyer say that this is a brand new team that’s not defending anything? When Meyer enters the Wynfrey Hotel, Nick Saban will be leaving. Will the building be able to hold all that energy?
5. Is anybody flying below the radar more than Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville?
Here is a guy who has gone 21-3 in the SEC the past three seasons but nobody is talking about his football program. My sense is that is exactly the way he likes it. But I do have this question: Saban is making $4 million a year. Tuberville, who has beaten Alabama five straight times, makes about half that. Come November, if Tuberville beats Alabama for the sixth straight time, will he deserve a raise? Does it help that Tuberville and Saban have the same agent, Jimmy Sexton?
Comments
By austindog
July 25, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
How long will the media continue to see Steve Spurrier as the winning coach of Florida instead of the mediocre coach of the Redskins and S. Carolina?
By Gashog
July 25, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
You forgot THE Top Story line.
DMAC
By sobedawg
July 25, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
Saban needs to be more concerned about that trip to Tallahassee this year…Alabama has a WAYS to go…and so does Darth Visor and the Cocks!
By Airheadmotorcycle
July 25, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
While I don’t like Saban’s behavior, I’m glad he’s back in the SEC. He will increase the national spotlight on the nation’s best conference. He should be good fit at Alabama. The Tide haven’t had the players for several years. If he can recruit at the highest level without cheating (unlikely, the cheating part) they could be great again.
The SEC’s best player deserves better than the leadership he has at Arkansas. They are an embarrassment to our league.
Shut up, Les!
Go Gators! I can’t wait to see this offense. Tebow is a great fit for the spread offense. Meyer will be able to run the offense he ran in Utah. If the talented young defense can grow up by the third game, watch out. UF could repeat as SEC East Champs!
I think Auburn could be pretty good this year. Unfortunately for them, LSU could be great. But, that’s why we play the games.
Austindog, you’re either very young and don’t remember how Spurrier owned the SEC in the early to mid-90s, or you’re a Georgia fan. He changed the league and helped it become what it is today. He’s at least the second best coach in SEC history, maybe the best. Whether he won or lost in the NFL has no bearing on his contribution to SEC football.
By Rusty Banks
July 25, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this
The Wynfrey has turned into a circus the last couple of years. I avoid SEC media days like the plague. What I don’t avoid is picking winners.
http://www.rustybanks.com
By truth72764
July 25, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this
Darren McFadden has lost almost TWICE as many games as he’s won without Mitch Mustain. Mustain, on the other hand, was UNDEFEATED. Nutt ran off the next Peyton Manning and Steve Spurrier because of his EGO and his MICKEY MOUSE decision to just relies on McFadden and Felix Jones (when everyone knows you have to PASS the ball to win today). Malzahn was promised that he would be the head coach of the offense who could tell Nutt to butt out anytime he wanted and Mitch was promised an offense that did not just feature Darren McFadden instead of running the 4 WR hurry up spread offense that lets him show everyone just how good he is. He is the only player in NCAA history to have been the Parade, Gatorade, AND USA Today national Player of the Year. But Nutt’s EGO meant he would rather lose 4 games than win them all if it meant Mitch and Gus got credit. Nutt was warned what would happen to him if he refused to listen, and the Bible says you have to reap what you sow, so all this drama he knew was coming is fully deserved. He was warned, but he chose to have FOIs and lawsuits instead of winning all our games but with Gus and Mitch getting credit.
By John McDOnald
July 25, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this
Stupid Houston Nutt. He gave the ball to D Mc and Felix instead of letting a freshman QB throw the ball against LSU, FLA, etc.
By J-reed @ www.waen-atl.com(hot corner sports talk) Sat 12-2pm
July 25, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this
OK baby Football is here!This is the break down of the top teams in order in the SEC.
East FL Gators: should be 1st in east with load on young talent. Young on defense but have a few good playmakers. Pound for pound have the most speed and talent in SEC. TEBOW IS OVER-HYPED! Definitley will miss Leak and his passing skills.
GA Dawgs- Predicted to finish 2nd in East. Stafford and running game should have offense looking right. Defensive Line and CB is a big concern. Look out for hard hitting safteies. Richt should have puppies ready for OK. Have one of the toughest shedule in SEC.
S.C Gamecocks- Look out SEC cause here comes Spurrier. Most of there fast and hard hitting defense is back. You know Old ball coach got some stuff in store on offense. They have the whole state thinking SEC Championship this year and to be honest they might shock everyone.
Tenn VOls- Cant ever count out Pumpkin boy. Ainge is probabaly the best OB in SEC. Running game should be solid with Foster but not sure what playmaker recievers they have.
Kentucky and Vandy should be above .500 and watch out for Andre Woodson and cats offense just ask GA.
West
LSU Tigers- Probably the best team in SEC and mabey 2nd or 3rd in nation. Have tons of talent and speed on both sides. Matt Flynn will put up numbers and Miles will finally get Crowned.
Auburn Tigers- Still have a solid defense. Major concern is Cox consistency. Have pretty solid recivers and RBs. If Tubberville just keep mouth close and play ball, you might find them at the top of the SEC.
Bama Tides- Saban will definitely have them boys playing like contenders. Should have a solid season as can be expected. Still about 2 yrs away from being the elite SEC team. Solid at QB,RB, and WR. Defense look pretty decent also. Definetley will upset teams that sleep on them.
Rest of the West SUCKS!
Look At these great names. Spurrier, Myers, Saban, Tubberville, Fulmer, Richts,and Miles. These coaches along with the best talent in the nation is why I say the SEC is hand down the best Conference in the nation and come Jan, one of these schools should be playing for the BCS Championship.
By J-reed @ www.waen-atl.com(hot corner sports talk) Sat 12-2pm
July 25, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
OK baby Football is here!This is the break down of the top teams in order in the SEC.
East FL Gators: should be 1st in east with load on young talent. Young on defense but have a few good playmakers. Pound for pound have the most speed and talent in SEC. TEBOW IS OVER-HYPED! Definitley will miss Leak and his passing skills.
GA Dawgs- Predicted to finish 2nd in East. Stafford and running game should have offense looking right. Defensive Line and CB is a big concern. Look out for hard hitting safteies. Richt should have puppies ready for OK. Have one of the toughest shedule in SEC.
S.C Gamecocks- Look out SEC cause here comes Spurrier. Most of there fast and hard hitting defense is back. You know Old ball coach got some stuff in store on offense. They have the whole state thinking SEC Championship this year and to be honest they might shock everyone.
Tenn VOls- Cant ever count out Pumpkin boy. Ainge is probabaly the best OB in SEC. Running game should be solid with Foster but not sure what playmaker recievers they have.
Kentucky and Vandy should be above .500 and watch out for Andre Woodson and cats offense just ask GA.
West
LSU Tigers- Probably the best team in SEC and mabey 2nd or 3rd in nation. Have tons of talent and speed on both sides. Matt Flynn will put up numbers and Miles will finally get Crowned.
Auburn Tigers- Still have a solid defense. Major concern is Cox consistency. Have pretty solid recivers and RBs. If Tubberville just keep mouth close and play ball, you might find them at the top of the SEC.
Bama Tides- Saban will definitely have them boys playing like contenders. Should have a solid season as can be expected. Still about 2 yrs away from being the elite SEC team. Solid at QB,RB, and WR. Defense look pretty decent also. Definetley will upset teams that sleep on them.
Rest of the West SUCKS!
Look At these great names. Spurrier, Myers, Saban, Tubberville, Fulmer, Richts,and Miles. These coaches along with the best talent in the nation is why I say the SEC is hand down the best Conference in the nation and come Jan, one of these schools should be playing for the BCS Championship.
By J-reed @ www.waen-atl.com(hot corner sports talk) Sat 12-2pm
July 25, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
OK baby Football is here!This is the break down of the top teams in order in the SEC.
East FL Gators: should be 1st in east with load on young talent. Young on defense but have a few good playmakers. Pound for pound have the most speed and talent in SEC. TEBOW IS OVER-HYPED! Definitley will miss Leak and his passing skills.
GA Dawgs- Predicted to finish 2nd in East. Stafford and running game should have offense looking right. Defensive Line and CB is a big concern. Look out for hard hitting safteies. Richt should have puppies ready for OK. Have one of the toughest shedule in SEC.
S.C Gamecocks- Look out SEC cause here comes Spurrier. Most of there fast and hard hitting defense is back. You know Old ball coach got some stuff in store on offense. They have the whole state thinking SEC Championship this year and to be honest they might shock everyone.
Tenn VOls- Cant ever count out Pumpkin boy. Ainge is probabaly the best OB in SEC. Running game should be solid with Foster but not sure what playmaker recievers they have.
Kentucky and Vandy should be above .500 and watch out for Andre Woodson and cats offense just ask GA.
West
LSU Tigers- Probably the best team in SEC and mabey 2nd or 3rd in nation. Have tons of talent and speed on both sides. Matt Flynn will put up numbers and Miles will finally get Crowned.
Auburn Tigers- Still have a solid defense. Major concern is Cox consistency. Have pretty solid recivers and RBs. If Tubberville just keep mouth close and play ball, you might find them at the top of the SEC.
Bama Tides- Saban will definitely have them boys playing like contenders. Should have a solid season as can be expected. Still about 2 yrs away from being the elite SEC team. Solid at QB,RB, and WR. Defense look pretty decent also. Definetley will upset teams that sleep on them.
Rest of the West SUCKS!
Look At these great names. Spurrier, Myers, Saban, Tubberville, Fulmer, Richts,and Miles. These coaches along with the best talent in the nation is why I say the SEC is hand down the best Conference in the nation and come Jan, one of these schools should be playing for the BCS Championship.
By Neal S.
July 25, 2007 8:28 PM | Link to this
I’m a huge AU fan, but when talking about Spurrier as a mediocre coach,….. you know sometimes it’s best to let people think your an idiot than to open your mouth with something like that and remove ALL DOUBT
By Bryan
July 25, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this
Saban came back to the college ranks because he realized everyone pays for their players in the NFL.
Too much attention has been paid to his return. The SEC contains a league full of good coaches. He is one more face in the crowd. Bama will be good again, but national championship certainty is unfounded.
At any rate,Tubs has Saban’s number- not to mention his former defensive coordinator. I like AU’s odds over the long haul.
-Ruhhhhh Tuddd !!!!
By Reggie
July 25, 2007 10:24 PM | Link to this
Here are my thoughts leading into the 2008 season on the SEC.
1.Nick Saban ain’t that great! He only had a couple of good years at LSU w/superior talent, and that’s it. Shoot, Tommy Tuberville is 3-2 against Saban while Saban was at LSU. And that was LSU’s best talent against Auburn’s average talent(this was Tuberville’s talent he inherited included). Time will tell, but I think people will realize the just isn’t that great!
Tennesse will win the east. Florida will have a big letdown year and Georgia will continue to struggle.
LSU and Auburn should fight it out for the West. I will give the nod to LSU, based solely on a little of a talent edge. However, anything is possible in this crazy series!
You can bet the Gamecocks will continue to get better. If I know Spurrier, give him another 2 years and look out!
Way to speak your mind Les Miles!! It is the truth and USC is overrated and doesn’t really play ALOT of tough teams. They play a few, but not alot…and never do. That is the PAC10 vs. the SEC. It is alot tougher league, and probably always will be.
Sylvester Croom and possible one other coach, yet to be determined, will be fired at season’s end.
By NC Dawg
July 26, 2007 7:46 AM | Link to this
What exactly is the purpose of SEC Media Days?
By austindog
July 26, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Airhead and Neal S,
Coach John Smith coached two years in the NFL going 7-9 and 5-11. He then coached a Division I college team to records of 7-5 and 8-5. I’d call John Smith a pretty mediocre coach.
If you read my post, I clearly acknowledged him as a winning coach at Florida, who has since, well, see John Smith above.
By austindog
July 26, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Before the boxer’s final fight, a loss to a man he called a “tomato can” in the news conference:
“I’ve been hearing Mike Tyson is back for years now. When is he coming back? I don’t think he’s coming back,” McBride’s manager Rich Capiello stated at a news conference. “He was a great fighter in his time. His time is over.”
(the media always loved the digs Tyson made at news conferences)
By razordude
July 26, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
truth72764..you clearly are from springdale, or maybe you are Mitch’s mom?..DMAC and Felix got us where we were, not MM, he managed the game until he couldnt do it anymore. you win games with the best players period. USC could use your loyalty for sure.
By tim
July 26, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
I was watching this show on ESPN last night and they said USC has the 2nd hardest schedule. What a joke! When it is a toss up between ND, Oregon, and USLA which is your hardest game that is not say tough to me. Who would you rather play Oregon, UCLA, And ND or Auburn, LSU, FL, TENN, UGA etc. The media is all up USC a* and I am sick of it. ND is a joke. A good but not great LSU team kicked the s** out of them. If any one of the powerhouse teams in the SEC switched to the PAC 10 they would win the division every year. What a joke. I think the weak a* ACC is harder than the PAC 10.
By AFnPC
July 26, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
I like how everyone knock’s Brandon Cox as an inconsistent qb. The guy has the heart of a lion and was playing without any legs…And one thing about LSU…They may have talent, but I feel too many people are overlooking the signifigance of a change at OC in this league. Add to that a relatively new starter that, while has had a few decent showings, is considerably unproven. Take away their safety extraordinaire LaRon Landry, among other defensive starters, and you essentially have a team loaded with talent, but short on experience. Also note that Broussard has quit the team. LS-who?
War Eagle!
By VanDSIRROM
July 26, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Ther’s more parity in the SEC East than ever before. Vandy & KY will have a say in who wins the East and one of them (VU or KY) will be in the top 3 in the East meaning that FL, GA or ut won’t be. I think SC will be 4th at best.
Write it down.
By br
July 26, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
tim,
Umm, before you type another word, just realize that USC kicked Auburn’s @$$ twice (once at USC and once at Auburn). Not to mention they kicked the crap out of Arkansas twice also. OK, Arky wasn’t that great in ‘05, but 70-17 is a flat out @$$-raping! Last year, I know McFadden wasn’t 100% healthy, but still, 50-14 IN Arkansas is another @$$-raping! I agree, the Pac-10 as a whole isn’t that great, but don’t ever say that USC doesn’t or won’t play against the top teams, leave that to the UCLA’s or Oregon’s of the world. USC would have hammered Auburn in the ‘04 title game, maybe not the way they beat down Oklahoma, but it still would have been a rout. In ‘03, Auburn had an even better team (talent-wise) than they had in the ‘04 season…and USC STILL beat them down 23-0. Explain that!
By FluffAlbright
July 27, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
There is no disputing that USC is absolutely legit and deserves all of the credit that comes their way. But just to set the record straight about the AU-USC series. That ‘03’ team, while talented, was a train wreck due to a coaching experiment gone bad. They lost in a similar fashion the very next week to Tech and went on to lose 5 games that year. The ‘02’ team was a freshman-laden team that played USC very close on the road with Petrino as OC. There is no comparison between ‘03’ and ‘04’ even though the talent was basically the same because of coaching. USC probably would have won anyway but I think we missed out on a great matchup because of a ridiculous and flawed system that, hopefully, will soon be reformed. BTW, the SEC seemed to fair pretty well against the rest of the PAC-10 last year…I seem to remember 3-0 (not including USC-ARK)in blowouts. No one is questioning USC, it’s the rest of the conference that is suspect.
By br
July 27, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Fluff,
That’s the point I’m trying to make. USC gets railed because they play in a very mediocre conference (although UCLA and Oregon are better than mediocre) when, in reality, it isn’t their fault. Thay play the games that are on their schedule. And it isn’t fair to knock their non-conference schedule, either. They play Notre Dame (yes, they are overrated, but they can be formidable) every year, they play Nebraska (which is getting their mojo back) this year, and then in the next two years they will play a home/home with Ohio State. That’s not too shabby a non-conf. schedule if you ask me. I’m not knocking the SEC or their head to head match-ups, no one can deny their legitimacy, but I think Les Miles stepped waaaay out of bounds in trying to knock down USC’s schedule, when in fact, he should knock Cal, UCLA, Oregon, or Arizona St. for their cream-puff non-conf. schedules instead. I think he’s barking up the wrong tree on this one…and just remember, be careful what you wish for, Les! USC isn’t afraid of ANYONE. They’ll play anywhere, anytime, against ANYBODY…and they’ve proven it, and won many of ‘em too!
By truth72764
July 27, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this
The SEC is incredibly lucky that Mustain and Malzahn are gone. Without Mustain running the show, Darren McFadden has a losing record but with Mustain, McFadden is UNDEFEATED. Saban and Cutcliffe are installing Malzahn’s stuff and Spurrier has lost his edge. Arkansas had the real deal, the guy others are copying. But Nutt and his ego and his lack of integrity caused Mustain and Malzahn to leave. Some are too dumb to know that you need to PASS the ball out of innovative and groundbreaking schemes when you have a stud RB. Nutt is too dumb to see this and he would rather win 10 games anyway than win 13 with Mustain and Malzahn getting credit. After the FOIs and protests and polls and media campagns, though, at least more of the nation knows the truth. Count your blessings SEC, you won’t have to face Mustain and Malzahn. Make sure to send Nutt a Christmas card for helping you dodge this bullet.
By Mike Murray
July 27, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this
Fluff had a pretty good answer for Br, except for the part about SC probably beating AU for the NC in ‘04. Compare their results against a common opponent. SC struggled against VT and was lucky to win, while AU pretty much dominated them in the Sugar Bowl. Having been through a murderer’s row of a schedule (LSU, UGA, UAT, and UTx2), the Tigers were battle-tested and would have easily handled SC in ‘04. SC was just lucky to get them a year early!
By br
July 28, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
Mike,
With all do respect, WTF are you talking about? USC traveled TO Virginia Tech and beat them 24-13, IN THEIR BACKYARD! It was pretty close early and SC killed them in the second half. Auburn pulled it out against Virginia Tech ON A NEUTRAL FIELD, by the skin of their teeth, 16-13. This one was pretty tight all the way through. Tell me this isn’t your argument. Let me repeat myself. In 2002, USC defeated Auburn, 23-17 (it was a good game, kudos to Auburn for keeping it close AT USC, but not good enough at the end.). In 2003, USC traveled to Auburn (with a new QB, Leinart, no less) and cleaned their clocks, 23-0. This one was over from the very beginning, score could have been much worse. Fluff’s argument was that Auburn was going through a coaching controversy and that is why they lost. I say bullcr@p!! This was the first game of the season, AT AUBURN, with 90,000 fans screaming for their team to show itself against a top-notch team. They didn’t, and got hammered in the process! How can you blame that ugly loss on a coaching controversy? OK, then I say USC was going through a QB flux in this one. Carson Palmer won the Heisman in ‘02 and he left for the NFL. NOBODY knew in early ‘03 how good Leinart was going to be, and in his first start in a hostile environment, he showed everyone how good he was going to be. That’s what you call winning in adversity. So, what are you going to do now, blame Auburn’s two lopsided losses to Georgia Tech on more coaching controversies? Bad Chinese food the night before!? What? I stand by my claiming the 2003 Auburn team had better talent than the 2004 team, look at the respective rosters. It’s just the ‘04 team played better than the ‘03 team. And, yes, in 2004, USC would have kicked Auburn’s tails in the Fiesta Bowl. Would it have been 55-19 (like the Oklahoma massacre)? Probably not, but USC was just absolutely, possitively LOADED on both sides of the ball. Auburn had a nice offense and could run the ball, but their defense wouldn’t have been able to keep up with USC’s offensive juggernaut. Like I say, ridicule everyone else in the Pac-10 all you want, but it is NOT USC’s fault the rest of the conference is mediocre at best, they’re just world’s better than the other 9. Plus, USC has proven time and time again that they’ll play ANYONE, ANYWHERE, and at ANYTIME!!! Outside of the Texas game in the Rose Bowl (USC almost won that one, too), they’ve proven extremely worthy against ALL COMPETITION!! Case closed!
By Mike Murray
July 28, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this
Br, you keep comparing apples and oranges. Yes USC dominated AU in ‘03, but that has absolutely no bearing on what would have happened in ‘04. And you watched a different Sugar Bowl if you think AU beat VT by the skin of their teeth. You can’t just yell CASE CLOSED because SC beats 2-3 real teams a year, and coasts the rest of the time. Whoever wins the SEC in any of the past 5 years is a true champion—just ask Ohio State. UF barely beat UGA and should have lost to South Carolina (the ORIGINAL USC) last year, but easily annihilated Ohio State. That’s how tough the SEC is. Get a grip.
By br
July 29, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this
Mike, I NEVER once said the SEC isn’t tough…of course it is! But, the bottom line is, USC is 4-0 against SEC teams, including 2 wins over perennial contender Auburn and an @$$-whipping over a good Arkansas team in their backyard…those are FACTS!! Obviously, we’ll never know what MIGHT have been if USC had played Auburn in ‘04, thanks for pointing out the obvious, Sherlock! But, it’s pretty apparent you’re saying Auburn would have won that game, since you claim the SEC is the “true” champion the past 5 years, so you’re just as guilty as I am. Plus, you must be smoking something potent if you think UGA and South Carolina were “real teams” last year. Give me a break, UGA lost to Vandy and Kentucky and should have lost to Ole Miss, Miss. State, and a rotten Colorado team. Most every year, yes, UGA is legit, but last year they were NOT! South Carolina almost lost to Wofford, WOFFORD for crying out loud! Hey, bring your A-Game to the plate! If you think all these SEC teams can beat USC, bring it on! Like I say, 4-0 against SEC teams, with 3 of those 4 complete blowouts in all phases. If Les Miles wants to pout about USC, tell him to put USC on their schedule instead of La. Tech, Troy, SE Louisiana, Tulane, North Texas, etc. Maybe they’ll meet each other in the title game and it can be settled on the field once and for all…USC WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED!
By TC
July 31, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
USC has the best football team that money can buy.
By br
August 1, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Ahh, yes, now jealousy sets in! So let me get this right, any team not residing from the SEC is not “legit” or is cheating, or both? Wow, tell that to ‘05 Texas, ‘02 Ohio State, all the Hurricanes titles, FSU, and of course, the ‘95 Huskers, who kicked the ever-loving $hit out of mighty Florida. USC can’t be legit or is cheating because they reel in the #1 recruiting class, year after year, including the #1 player last year…who, I believe, hailed from Louisiana, oh and of course, picking up Mitch Mustain from Arkansas, right? That, my friends, is jealousy, mixed in with ignorance…nice job!!