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Tony’s Top 10* (*BCS not included)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The first BCS Standings won’t be released until Oct. 15, but based on the first three weeks of the season here are the Top 10 in the TB Standings.* (And no, it doesn’t stand for Totally Bogus.*)
1: Ohio State (3-0): I had Auburn No. 1 in preseason Top 25 in the AJC. But when a team marches into Texas and dominates the way the Buckeyes did on Sept. 9, they deserve some props.
2: Auburn (3-0): That 7-3 win over LSU was one of the most intense games I’ve ever seen. The Tigers won’t see a defense better than that unless it’s Florida, who comes to Jordan-Hare on Oct. 14.
3: USC (3-0): Thought the Trojans might dominate Nebraska but they just looked like a very good football team. They will not be challenged again until Nov. 11 vs. Oregon.
4: Florida (3-0): Looks like the Gators have found themselves a running back in DeShawn Wynn and that’s big. All four guys on their defensive front will be playing on Sunday.
5: West Virginia (3-0): Speed, speed, speed. The team that wins the West Virginia-Louisville game on Nov. 2 is going to be undefeated. But will that be good enough?
6: Michigan (3-0): Lloyd Carr is a very good football coach. Always has been. He shook up his staff and now the Wolverines are playing with some fire.
7: Georgia (3-0): Don’t look now but this could be the best defense Georgia has had in the Mark Richt era. If the Bulldogs don’t have any injuries in the offensive line, this team could have a special year.
8: LSU (2-1): The best one-loss team in America. Can’t wait until the Tigers go to Florida on Oct. 7.
9: Texas (2-1): There is still a lot of talent in Austin. This team is very capable of going 12-1 and winning the Big 12 title again.
10: Louisville (3-0): The scary thing is: How good would this team be WITH Michael Bush? Got to get quarterback Brian Brohm back for West Virginia on Nov. 2.




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Comments
By jim
September 18, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this
Tony, I’d have to add Georgia to the next best defense Auburn will see this year. They are DOMINATING!
By Ron
September 18, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this
When Georgia has played anybody that is any good, then talk about then maybe being special.The truth is, Georgia has accomplished less in the last 25 years than any school that wants to be called a”major” football power. Twwo conference titles in 25 years does not make you a power. You can join the whiners at Notre Dame. Play somebody in a pre-league game and then talk.
By Rod
September 18, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
Georgia - a dominating defense? Yeah, against the high school teams they’ve been playing (and continue to play - Colorado next).
By jim
September 18, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this
Ron, were you born an A-hole? jealous that Georgia is defending SEC champs? Forget about 2002 13-1 team? Forget GA beat Ohio St. with Ray Goff as coach? Never lost to a big 10 (the conference that can’t count) team. Ron, go ahead and keep your head up your you know what.
By da-junkyard
September 18, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
Ron,
You are an idiot. In the last 25 years, UGA has won 4 SEC titles. Extend that to 26 years, and it is 5 SEC titles plus a national championship.
If you forget the fact that UGA is 13th nationally in all-time win percentage (.640), they are 11th all-time in wins, 6th all time in bowl appearances, and have 12 SEC titles, they are still one of the most dominate programs of the last 5 seasons with a 55-13 record under Richt.
Again, you are an idiot.
By Geoff
September 18, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this
That’s a pretty good list Tony although I’m not sure I agree with you about Michigan jumping Georgia. Yes, that was an impressive win over Notre Dame but I think at this point, it’s becoming apparent that the golden domers aren’t nearly as good as they were hyped to be in the preseason. Even tech got a “moral victory” against them so what does that say? On the flip side, Georgia’s done nothing but wreak havoc on the teams that have been on their schedule so far. This while executing a pretty vanilla playbook up to this point.
By the way, I would think that Ron and Rod would have more room to talk if the ACC weren’t exposing itself as the weakest conference in the country so far. When the Big East has two teams that would be the favorites were they playing in the ACC, that’s embarrassing.
By Robert
September 18, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this
Ron,
It’s time for your morning feeding and breastmilk will nor wait! I think your diapers need changing too, WHEW!
Ron, you obviously know nothing about Georgia football and it shows, LOSER!
By doggonegadawg
September 18, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Hey Jim, Give Ron a break! Georgia did lose to Michigan in 1957. Is that considered the modern era? But UGA is undefeated against the Big Ten since Dooley took over in ‘64.
By jim
September 18, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
doggonegadawg, might have to check that out about Mich in ‘57. Don’t recall EVER hearing such a thing. But I will stand corrected if it is true.
By matt
September 18, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
High school teams? When OSU and Texas and USC beat all of those “high school” teams by 40 points all you here in the news is how unbelievable they are! When UGA consecutively shutsouts two teams who have won big games over the past two years suddenly we are overrated! Somebody explain that to me!
By Geoff
September 18, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this
I think he’s right Jim. From what I’ve heard before, that was the first and only loss Georgia’s ever had against a Big Ten opponent.
By dawgcatcher
September 18, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this
To say that UGAG has the second most dominating defense is just plan stupid….. they have played no one…. (USC cannot score against anyone except maybe the cheerleading squad) and the two Division II teams that they have played have very limited athletic talents. We should all wait until UGAG plays someone of any reput before we crown them King of anything. Also, the offense really has not played against any team with a defense, so their 3 wins against their traditionally weak opening schedule says nothing defining about the mutts! But as always, the AJC with their blindly loyal and myopic writers will continue to say nothing but good about UGAG even when there are much better teams to pour compliments upon.
By dawgcatcher
September 18, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this
To say that UGAG has the second most dominating defense is just plan stupid….. they have played no one…. (USC cannot score against anyone except maybe the cheerleading squad) and the two Division II teams that they have played have very limited athletic talents. We should all wait until UGAG plays someone of any reput before we crown them King of anything. Also, the offense really has not played against any team with a defense, so their 3 wins against their traditionally weak opening schedule says nothing defining about the mutts! But as always, the AJC with their blindly loyal and myopic writers will continue to say nothing but good about UGAG even when there are much better teams to pour compliments upon.
By mcdwag
September 18, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
Michigan looked awfully good-did not miss a single tackle when it mattered-looks like USC will glide to title game-all GA has to do is win-could be playing two top 5 teams late in the year-just win and you never know
By AFinPC
September 18, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry people but the “Dawgs” don’t have much of a bite this year…No offense and a weak defense…Doesn’t spell good for later in the season. And jiim they are only defending SEC champs because Auburn’s kicker is only slightly better than Koenan against LSU…kryptonite? Don’t forget who your Dawgs can’t seem to beat..A-U-B-U-R-N! Auburn over South Carolina, Florida, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida again for the SEC Championship! Mark it on your calendars…See ya Jan 8th! WAR EAGLE!@!
By Lane4411
September 18, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
True Georgia has not played a quality team, to date. Hoever give consideration to the following:
A- MR’s, record @ Georgia B- Ability to develop QB’s/Offenses C- Compare recent FSU offenses, with those during the MR, era D- Number of QB’s, MR has coached who played in the NFL-many were not that talented, like Spurrier, MR coaches players up. E- There will never be the total breakdown in the program like there was with Tuberville a couple of yrs. ago - soap opera. Without Borgas(?)-the program would be in the tank.
Tony, is correct the key to the year is the OL- lack of depth only 8 players available-ulcers!!!
By Randy
September 18, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
Auburn The Kings of ReWriting History.
Wannabe National Champs in 2004. Wannabe SEC Champs in 2005. I guess you guys killed Wisconsin, too!
You guys aren’t even going to win the SEC this year let alone win a national championship.
By Bodacious
September 18, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
Is it true Auburn fans are just glorified Alabama Fans with shoes on? If it weren’t for all the out of state tuition the school would probably lose their credibility. By the way, Auburn is where blond jokes originated.
By Elroy
September 18, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this
Every year it’s the same….georgia plays absolutely nobody for the first 5 to 6 games.
In the meantime, the puppy fans get all riled up about how they should be more prominently considered in the elite of the nation with their impressive performances.
Play somebody.
Then you can yelp.
Guarantee you mutt fans that if you played AU’s typical early season schedule every year, the doggies would start out every season with one or two losses beforey you ever got to UT!!
What a bunch of crybabies!
By brad
September 18, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Yep, the ‘Dawgs lost at Ann Arbor in 1957, but on a return trip in 1965 beat the Wolverines in Ann Arbor. It’s funny how none of those Big 10 (11) teams are willing to come to Athens for a game…apparently they know more than the pollsters…
By scdawg
September 18, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this
If you want to take into account strength of schedules, then look up WVAs pitiful schedule and tell me how they can be ranked in the top 5. Good grief, it would be comparable to UGA playing the likes of Vandy, and UK for ten games then facing an Auburn or Tennessee. Maybe UGA should schedule one of the big games early just to shut people like Tony up. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teamsched?teamId=277
By brad
September 18, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
I love how the Dawg detracters always like to talk about football records as if they started with the Ray Goff era. Either talk about records under the present coaches only, or include the whole history of a program - don’t just cherrypick the years based upon an ineffective coach.
By correction
September 18, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Georgia lost to a big 10 opponent in 1983.
By ming
September 18, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
Ron’s just a hater. Those posters never mention what school they’re for, just that they resent Georgia. Gotta be GT.
Congrats again on your “close loss” to ND. They’re unbeatable.
By Reality
September 18, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
Geoff….You are real bright, UGAG should be ahead of Michigan because while they were crushing Notre Dame, you were reaking havoc on UAB….And now here comes the worst team in 1-A, Colorado…Get a Schedule !
By Brandon
September 18, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
These Auburn chumps talking smack about the incredible Georgia team seam to be a little scared of us already this year. They are scared of our #1 SEC defense! They sound like a bunch of baby kittens giving a fierce meow and then running away with their tails between their legs. Face it Auburn…Georgia is just better than you this year you bunch of scared babies!!!
By Bodacious
September 18, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this
And when the trees that border the state of Alabama start bending to the west, you know there is a near certainty of a sucking sound eminating from Jordan-Hare or Bryant stadiums……
By Reality
September 18, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
Tony….You are a certfied D*head….(In your other Column)….You are cracking on the ACC and Big 12 for losing non conference games, at least they take on tough NC foes, the SEC(Scared Eastern Conference)wont….So quit whining about Auburn and Georgia, the reason they cant get into the BCS Title game is becauseTHEY DONT PLAY ANYBODY
By brad
September 18, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
Penn State was not a member of the Big 10 in 1983, so that one doesn’t count. Admittedly, our record against the Big East is deplorable…
By FluffAlbright
September 18, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this
Randy…Georgia fans (and the rest of the SEC) should be sympathetic to AU’s situtation in 2004 since it was a slight to the entire conference and could easily happen again this year to any of us. BTW Auburn is 15-10-1 against UGA going back to 1980. 12-7-1 over the last 20 years. 6-4 over the last 10. Pretty lopsided for two supposedly evenly matched programs.
By brad
September 18, 2006 12:54 PM | Link to this
Before you go picking on the ‘Dawgs schedule, you might want to realize that when they scheduled Colorado, the Buffs were the defending Big12 champions (and have now been in the Big 12 championship game 4 of the last 5 years). When you sign a team onto the schedule, you can’t guarantee that they’ll be as good (or as bad) of a team as they are at the time of signing the contract.
The other aspect of scheduling is that the “NC capable” teams have never shown a willingness to come to Athens.
By Geoff
September 18, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
Hey correction, are you referring to the Sugar Bowl loss to Penn State? If so, they weren’t in the Big Ten at that time.
For reality, to save myself the time, I’ll refer you to what I posted yesterday on Schultz’s page:
*Hey jr, do techies lack shame? You haven’t beaten us without using ineligible players in 15 years and yet you act like we need to toughen up.
While I do recognize that the voters use their influence to try to force schools to schedule high profile non-conference match ups, it really should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty that the SEC schedule should be considered tough enough. If you take Texas vs. Ohio State for example, you know the winner of that game would most likely have the inside track to a national championship shot even though there’s hardly anyone else left on their schedules worth noting. For Texas, an Oklahoma team that might lose to Oregon is all they have left and besides Ohio State, everyone left in the Big Ten looks like a paper tiger. If you compare that to a schedule which every year contains Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, and South Carolina (and sporadically LSU and Alabama), the argument of UGA’s detractors appears absurd. In spite of all that, when the Georgia athletic department scheduled Colorado for a home and home several years ago, they were the Big Twelve North champions. You also conveniently forgot to mention the recent series with Clemson which the Dawgs dominated.*
In light of Michigan’s big win over Notre Dame, it’s apparent that they’re certainly further along as a program then what appeared to be the case last week. However, that being said, you should agree that they’ve been down for several years now and one win doesn’t prove that they’re back among the elite. Compare that to Georgia which has hardly shown anything but excellence under Mark Richt over the last five years and it doesn’t seem appropriate to have them jumped in the standings.
By ming
September 18, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
GT always gets a top ten opponent in Georgia.
Georgia always gets an unranked opponent in Tech.
You wanna see Georgia play a tougher schedule? Field a ranked team for once!
By Brandon
September 18, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
Below are the best conferences in order from best to worst:
Fluffy, Stop being a baby! Georgia is a better team than Auburn this year. THIS YEAR you are scared, because we are better. Georgia is the best team in NCAA Football THIS YEAR! All other schools are scared to schedule games against Georgia, because we are ALWAYS a GREAT team!
By Geoff
September 18, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
Oh, by the way reality, if you’re going to comment on the intelligence of someone, you have more credibility when your post doesn’t contain spelling errors.
By Dale
September 18, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this
Uh-oh, Reality’s fussy again. Break out the warm milk and pacifier.
By Reality
September 18, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
Brad….You are full of s*…..Colorado was scheduled 2 years ago when they were embroiled in scandal and Barnett appeared on his way out….And you’re saying that USC will go to Auburn and Oklahoma to Alabama, but they’re afraid to come to Athens?….Whatever Dude !
By Doug
September 18, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
Wow, Auburn fans moaning about Georgia’s weak schedule? Let’s see whom Auburn has left on their OOC slate: Buffalo, Tulane, and Arkansas State.
Bra-vo, Aubies. It really takes some nerve to throw stones at someone else’s schedule when you’ve got a trifecta like that coming up.
By aj
September 18, 2006 01:18 PM | Link to this
i hope that if any sec team (even uf, yuck!) goes undefeated, that we don’t get shut out of the bcs championship game, i.e. auburn ‘04. there is no doubt that the sec is the strongest conference and regardless of when we play each other, early or late, we still play each other. so with all of that, i hope to see my dawgs win it all, but if not, i hope that the sec represents!
By brad
September 18, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Reality, the contracts were worked out five years ago, not two years ago. Maybe you’re the one who needs a reality check.
As far as the USCs of the world, history is plain - UGA has visited USC, Michigan and Texas in the past (more than once for each), but those teams have never been to Athens. Look it up yourself…
By Matthew J
September 18, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
Well, lets not jump the gun on UGA too much. I think the win over USC was ok, but the win over UAB was better. The defense is good, but we won’t know much until they play a high powered offense. Unfortunately for UGA, Stafford, while a promising young QB, is just that, young. Its unlikely he’ll make it through unscathed. I think UGA loses 2/3 to AU, UF and UT. The win could come from any of the 3, but obviously a loss is most likely @ Auburn. I think UGA can hang with AU, but if both teams play to their potential, I think Auburn wins. I go to UGA, and we were talking about why UGA has had consistantly good seasons but not made a real run like LSU or AU at the title…I think LSU and Auburn are better at developing players, and letting them come into their own, resulting in 8-4, 9-3, and 12-0 type seasons, while UGA stays consistant at 10 wins a year…see: Jason Campbell, 2004. Not to say UGA won’t break through at some point, but I think building up a team over a couple of years produces a better shot at the whole thing. Experience often trumps talent in winning championships.
By brad
September 18, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
I’ll amend my last comment: the negotiations with Colorado were stasrted five years ago. The contract may not have been signed until later. I just noticed that while we’ve been told that Arizona State is coming to Athens next year, that game is still TBA on the UGA Athletic Association website…
By Brandon
September 18, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this
I have one question who is the defending SEC champions? That’s what I thought! GO DAWGS!
By Reasonable Dawg
September 18, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
People always hating on UGA. Tony talked about 10 teams and all these UGA haters come to life. No team in the nation has played more than one significant game. Most of them dont have any significant games left. UGA schedule is backloaded. If I were a hater I would say that Auburn beat a LSU team w/ no running game, and still needed a bad call to win at home. I could say USC beat a Nebraska team that looked like they did not have any passing plays over 10 yards in the playbook. But I’m no hater so I’ll just worry about my own favorite team, and I suggest you haters do the same. GO DAWGS!!!!
By brad
September 18, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this
Oh, and we are scheduled to visit Boulder in 2010 - that’s a little further away than two years, isn’t it? So be careful who you are saying is full of it…
By WDKatie
September 18, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this
I’m an AU grad and fan. I usually understand a lot to football and do my best to have fun with it with some class. I understand it also takes a lot to win a game - players, coaches, fans, etc. So we’ll see what happens with AU/UGA on Nov. 11th at Jordan-Hare.
As you are all whining about strength of schedule, and who has the toughest one, the NCAA helps to look at that statistically. This is through to this past week’s games:
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%20schedule/9games_cumm.pdf
UGA is ranked 95 and AU tied for 27, if I remember correctly from the doc. Now all teams have non conference games and sometimes we play these games just for money. Some of our games are determined years in advance and sometimes just one year. So before you go off criticizing one another, try being the atheletic director and other staff first.
So of course since this is the AJC and there are mostly UGA and AU fans posting here, we’ll just have to wait til Nov. 11th to see what happens for this year. Til then I believe AU still has “bragging rights” :)
WAR EAGLE!!
By Reasonable Dawg
September 18, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Matthew J, you attend UGA and say some crap like that. In 2002 your alma mater was 13-1 and one Ohio St. miracle from playing in the BCS title game. UGA has been in the final top 10 every year since. It is obvious, most of you are only casual football fans, because your comments show your lack of football knowledge. Spouting off stats and records does not cut it. GO DAWGS!!!
ps. show me a schedule that has no cupcakes on it.
By Pickle
September 18, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
God, the AJC has a very low bar when evaluating journalists.
Please define a very good coach and tell me how in the hell Lloyd Carr is a very good coach.
Only 1 NC with all the talent that the school can attract. Tony, you like Mark, really have no clue.
By Ike
September 18, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this
BRAD: “It’s funny how none of those Big 10 (11) teams are willing to come to Athens for a game”
when exactly was the last time UGA came to a big 10 school for a game? seriously, tell me, because i don’t think it’s happened the past 20 years.
so i think its funny how UGA won’t schedule difficult non-conf games.
GEOFF: “In light of Michigan’s big win over Notre Dame… you should agree that they’ve been down for several years now and one win doesn’t prove that they’re back among the elite.”
UM has been to 2 of the last 3 Rose Bowls. I wouldn’t say they’ve been down for several years. dont be an idiot.
By Shawn Hall
September 18, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this
Why are there so many people that act like they know everything about college football, but actually do not know s**t? Big time college programs schedule non-conferance opponents years before they actually play them. Most of the time when those games are scheduled, the teams are actually pretty good. Its not the teams fault that a program has problems, resulting in them falling in the football ranks. So idiots who think they know more than a Div. 1-A head coach, try to do his job for one day. Most of you will run home crying to momma!!
By Geoff
September 18, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this
Man, Ike, what’s up the personal attacks? Seriously, if you’re bi-polar, there is medication that can help you.
If you take the time to look up the records, Michigan had either 3 or 4 losses every year from 2000 through 2004 and went a whopping 7 and 5 last season. For an average program, that’s pretty good but for a school with Michigan’s history that’s certainly subpar. In comparison with what Georgia’s done over that same time period, my argument still stands.
By The Man
September 18, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
WDKatie is a lezbo. Go back to watching WNBA and LPGA.
By Reality
September 18, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this
Brad….You need to check your facts…..UGAG has not played at USC, Texas, or Michigan in the last 50 years for sure (Give me the dates)….Played Texas in the Cotton Bowl in the early 80’s but that is a Bowl not regular season…..Keep beating up on High School teams and running your soup cooler !
By War Eagle
September 18, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this
Two points, IN 2004,UGA and most schools were downgrading Auburn for their schedule, which was not that strong. It did not matter who was on Auburn Schedule in 2004, they would probably prevail, so schedule are importent in getting to BCS, but most teams who are great can play with anybody.Remember Nebraska, Bammer,Florida State before ACC. loose schedules, but it did`nt matter they would whip up on you anyway. Second, Auburn is not the team now as 2004. Maybe defense is better, but offense with Ronnie Brown and Caddy plus Jason Campbell were great players.Auburn will win big this year, but improvements have to be made in WR and secondary.
By Dave
September 18, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
I must say all the squabbling makes for good reading. I am a Dawg & SEC fan. I believe we have the strongest conference year end and year out. Unfortunately, the 6 better teams play each other; whichs makes the national championship game hard to grasp. If an SEC team can go undefeated then they deserve to be there.
Yes, I believe Auburn deserved the right in 2004, and will in 2006 if they are unbeaten. Florida or Georgia has a chance.
By matt
September 18, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this
if ohio state, west va., and uga were to all go undefeated this year, who would go to the title game? ceratainly the sec carries its confrence weight, but after last years sugar bowl in atlanta how could you keep a better west va.team out? I believe that Auburn and Flordia are the only two SEC teams with possible championship runs.
By SoCalDawg
September 18, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
It’s been said before but HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS A WEAK SCHEDULE???
UGA, AUB, UF, UT, and LSU all play 3 games against conference teams currently ranked in the top 15 (AP). AND, whoever plays in SECCG will have a 4th game against a top 15 team.
ALL OF WHICH IS BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE BOWLS.
So in order to make it to the BIG GAME, the SEC champ is going to have to win 4 games against top 15 teams, plus win at least one decent out of conference game, plus win out against the other mediocre teams in SEC.
For comparison, Southern Cal has 2 games against teams in the top 15 - and that would be Notre Dame (who looked HORRIBLE this week and is only top 15 because they own NBC) and Oregon (who only beat Oklahoma this week on a blatant and obvious wrong call by the refs).
WHY IN THE FREAKING WORLD WOULD YOU ADD TO THAT ANOTHER GAME AGAINST A TOP TEAM?
You’re a blind homer if you honestly think an SEC schedule isn’t difficult regardless of out of conference schedule.
By Patsy Schedule
September 18, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
My, my, my. Seems like the UGA faithful are a little sensitive and defensive about their schedule. Take all the years of beating Vandy & KY out of the win-loss record over the years and what do you have ? This year, UF and UT are over-rated. That means that UGA plays one legitimately tough opponent. They could go 11-1 and finish the regular season in the top-10, but they wouldn’t be a legitimate top-10 team. You’re in sort of a no-win situation, doggies.
By Mark
September 18, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this
A lot of you need to do your homework. Georgia tried to schedule a home and home with Michigan a few years ago but Michigan just wanted us to come up there. They had no interest at all in coming to Sanford. You can’t make a team play you if they do no want to. We schedule a home and home with Clemson a few years ago and after we beat them 30-0 on their own field to open the season, they weren’t at all interested in signing another deal. Colorado, as someone else pointed out, was a good team when the game was scheduled.
Georgia’s strength of schedule is as good or better than anyone currently in the top ten. The only reason we’re talking about this is because most of the really tough games fall in the second half of the year. That’s the way Georgia’s schedule has worked for as long as I can remember. And I’m sorry, you can’t tell me that a team that has to play Tenn, Florida and Auburn every year, all teams that are usually in the top ten and fighting for an SEC Championship, has an easy schedule. Shoot, if Tech could ever be better than average that would help our strength of schedule when we beat them every year.
By austindog
September 18, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this
Reality, you are WRONG once again.
In the last 50 years, Georgia has indeed played Texas in Austin (1958), Southern Cal in Los Angeles (1960), and Michigan in Ann Arbor (1965).
Your girl robot is miscomputing again.
By Hamilton McWhorter
September 18, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this
Just to clarify on schedules, the Big 12 teams have 9 out of conference games against teams in the AP Top 25, the SEC has 7, and the ACC has 6. So to answer Reality’s criticism, the SEC appears to play as a slightly more difficult schedule than the ACC and slightly less difficult schedule than the Big 12…but none of the 3 should brag about it.
Also, Georgia has finished ahead of Auburn in the coaches poll 8 out of the last 10 years (7 out of 10 in the AP). That is extremely lopsided when it comes to 2 programs that are supposed to be equal.
By junkyarddawg34
September 18, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this
Reality Bites: 1958 UGA at Texas; 1960 at USC; 1957 & 1965 at Michigan. All within the last 50 years. Not exactly recent games, but they all meet your requirements. For the record, UGA has tried at least twice in the last 10 years to schedule a home and home with Notre Dame, but it seems they’d rather come to Georgia to play in a stadium that can only hold 55,000 opposing fans as opposed to 93,000. Grant Field does still hold 55,000 right, or have they taken seats out again?
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Auburn has won 19 out of it’s last 20 SEC games if you count the ‘04 Championship game. 18 out of 19 if you don’t, and their only loss was a game in which they missed 5 field goals and lost to LSU in OT.
Now tell me again who the best team in the SEC is?
I know, I know, don’t confuse you with the facts.
By Mark
September 18, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this
Roswell, it would be the team that won the SEC Champtionships. Excuses are just like a-holes. Everyone has one. So, Georgia was the best team in the SEC last year, like it or not. Auburn was the best team in the SEC in 2004.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
When was the last time someone had that kind of string in the SEC? What was Spurrier’s best run in league play?
I really don’t know.
What about Vince in the early ’80s? What about Beat in the 70s?
By junkyarddawg34
September 18, 2006 05:37 PM | Link to this
Roswell Ed: You can take the numbers. I’ll take the 2 pieces of hardware from the last 4 years that say SEC Champion Georgia Bulldogs on them, and the 3 that say SEC East Champion.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
Is there an excuse in my comment? UGA has back doored it to the Conf Title once and was legit once. That is an opinion A-Hole.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this
Bear in the 70s not beat.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
You’ll take it hard where?
By Mark
September 18, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this
Florida has a string of SEC Champions ships in the mid 90’s, 93 to 96. Tenn won two in a row right after that. That was the last time any team won the SEC Championship in consecutive years.
By Mark
September 18, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
” their only loss was a game in which they missed 5 field goals and lost to LSU in OT.”
That sounds like an excuse to me. You lost and didn’t win the West as a result. End of story.
By junkyarddawg34
September 18, 2006 05:48 PM | Link to this
From Sept 6, 1980-Oct 27, 1984 Dooley & the Dawgs won 27 of 28 SEC games, the lone loss coming to, you guessed it-Auburn. Of course, I’m sure Spurrier & Bryant had similar streaks, and Dye’s AU teams probably had a decent streak, but I’ve got to give credence to Dooley or Bryant for any streaks that they may have had only having 6 conference games a year as opposed to 8. Yes there were fewer chances to lose but to have a record like that over 5 years rather than getting it in 3 or 4 is even more impressive.
By austindog
September 18, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Sorry Roswell, titles are forever. Anything else is just consolation.
By Mark
September 18, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this
Roswell, no need to get your panties in a bunch. I said excuses are like a-holes, not you’re an a-hole. But, based on your reaction, maybe the title fits you.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
My question is how many SEC teams have had a run where they won 19 of 20. Looking back at history the championships are what you look for, but that run is very impressive, and I was looking how it stacks up over history. Were there more impressive strings.
I know that all those UF championships were more impressive than 19 of 20, but I’m curious about it.
There is also no way that I believe that UGA has been a better team than AU over the UGA run. The East has been a lot easier to get out of b/c of Fulmer and Zook. that’s and opinion.
You still can’t beat UF and Richt is 2-3 against AU. Those are facts.
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
It is an excuse I apologize. As far as excuses go it is a pretty good one. How often does a dude miss 5? I’m just glad we didn’t have to kick another one on Sat.
By austindog
September 18, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this
Roswell, please explain how Georgia backed into (I think that’s what you meant to say) the SEC championship.
And Georgia clinched the East with a win over Kentucky last year. If UGA hadn’t won, Florida would have backed in because their SEC schedule was already complete. They had no control over their destiny.
It doesn’t make a difference either way, Georgia had more SEC wins and that’s all that counts. But I wonder if you have any idea what you are talking about.
By David
September 18, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
Georgia has yet to prove it’s self this. UAB? So.Carolina? Please! Do we have to hear the whinning from Ga. much longer?
By Roswell Ed
September 18, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Losing 2 conference games is a commanding straight ahead like a bull performance? UGA won more by default. In 20 yrs though no one will care.
Richt is all that, but really UGA has only had 1 dominating team in that run. I’m sorry but that is true.
By junkyarddawg34
September 18, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Roswell Ed: Bear did lose at least one SEC game in the 1970s, 21-0 in Sanford Stadium, 1976. However, a 60-4 conference record from 1970-1981 for Bryant & Bama probably will never be approached again. Not too shabby.
By austindog
September 18, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Who has proved themselves this year? Ohio State, Auburn, maybe Michigan.
Not Florida or WV yet. Not Georgia yet.
By mb
September 18, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this
My, my…and to think I’ve always considered AU v. UGA a relatively friendly rivalry!
To the original point, pretty good job on your rankings, Tony. Michigan deserves to jump UGA because they beat the #2 team in the country, while Dawgs haven’t played anybody yet. They have the chance to make it up later in the season.
Speaking of, Dawgs scheduled favors a strong run…only three tough games all year (UT, UF, AU) with “practice” games in between (Vandy, MSU, UK). No real test until the sixth game, this should all allow Stafford, et al, to get comfortable and for MR to have the team playing its best.
UF’s schedule is just too brutal…Bama, LSU, AU, then a week off before UGA. No way they make it through that gauntlet.
AU has both UF and UGA at home and already survived the best defense in the SEC, with all due respect to the Gators and the Dawgs.
I see it coming down to AU and UGA in the SECCG.
WVU will go undefeated but still be the odd team out. For the NC, OSU and USC have the inside track unless (and maybe even if) AU/UGA/UF runs the table.
By Jeb
September 18, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this
The past means crap. The Dawgs are the best team in the nation right now. The only game that matters is the next one and it don’t matter who it is. Georgia goes undefeated and wins the National Championship this year. At least we are doing what we’re suppost to be doing to the so-called high school teams, instead of making them close like Oaklahoma did. So you haters keep on flapping your cake holes and we will let our team do the talking for us. Go DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By junkyarddawg34
September 18, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this
Here’s a ‘fact’ for ya … Georgia Tech has as many SEC Championships as Auburn, a grand total of 5. Oopsie.
By JDawg
September 18, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
sounds like everybody has this thing figured out..3 games into the season! there is plenty of football left to play and I doubt seriousely if the ball (and calls) will go Aubie’s way all season. Get a grip people.
By austindog
September 18, 2006 06:30 PM | Link to this
In 20 years no one will care? No one cares now. You’re a clearly college football fan, but be a little more objective.
Georgia Bulldogs, 2005 SEC Champions, now and forever.
Hate it all you want.
By morecowbell
September 18, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this
I agree with austindog, except Michigan will probably bow down to Ohio St. I will listen to the UGA slurpers when/if they beat UT and FL. It’s the same every year with them. Beat some Division III-type teams, and instantly talk national title. As far as Colorado being a tough game goes, they won the Big 12 North because there are ZERO teams in the Big 12 North. That doesn’t mean you “won the Big 12.” Lest we forget they get slaughtered in the Big 12 title game just about every time they’ve won the North? They lost to Montana St. this year. They should be kicked out of 1-A football for that. I’d like to see UGA play USC, Texas, Ohio St., or Michigan early instead of San Dimas High School. That way if they win their fans can back up that national title talk.
By JDawg
September 18, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this
lesscowbell…nobody is talking nat’l championships except Auburn people. Get it straight. The SEC championship is the championship that matters the most to SEC fans. The National Champ is a political championship not always determined on the field. The SEC is a seperate entity. You’re not from around here are you?
By FLGATOR
September 18, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this
Georgia’s schedule is fine… Auburn’s schedule is fine. The BIG10 is second rate to the SEC aside from a strong OhioState team… and just like the SEC, the BIG10 will meet it’s end through cannibalism. As far as Georgia being the best team in the country, I just don’t think so. Even with a 2005 SEC championship, you could not beat UF nor beat a big-east opponent in a bowl game. (You were better than WVA and you CHOKED.)No way is Georgia as strong as last year… I know, I know, you don’t beleive me. Tereshinski is out, stafford is in and he needs one more year before he leads the dawgs past UT, UF and Auburn. UGA does NOT have a #1 defense this year and lacks maturity to get the job done. I beleive the gators, even with the #1 toughest schedule in the nation, will find a way to eke by the SEC… one week and one point at a time with a possible double matchup with Auburn. (I think each team will get a win on each other… one in the SEC Championship.) Unfortunately, if that happens, I’m worried it will be the old AU team all over again as we sit out and watch OSU vs. WVA in the Championship.
By War Eagle
September 18, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this
I will say this if UGA had not won 2 SEC championships compared to Auburn and LSU one, what would you have to talk about. You dont play many top 10 teams and when you do you lose(Auburn 7-1 since 2003)..Auburn and Florida, so wind on, its your only accomplishment.Auburn is 19-1, UGA is 16=4 since 2003, Auburn is 2-0 against dawgs and lead for last 22 years, 15 years and since first game ever played, so talk dawgs, you need some confidence.Its sad to read such crap from UGA post when both schools have compliment each other through the years, please dont get like Bammer folks.
By Reasonable Dawg
September 18, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this
You people just dont get it. These other conferences schedule these tough ooc games because they have to. If Texas does not play Ohio State then look at thier schedule. Same with Ohio State. On the flip side, the SEC has marquee games in conference. Ohio State fans tell us your marquee conference game other than Mich. You too Texas. SoCal, you go next. Now name the second marquee conference game. I thought so. SEC teams always have a minimum of two marquee games. Your conferences are not very deep.GO DAWGS!!! Champions of the best conference.
By Reasonable Dawg
September 18, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this
Yes, Fla should talk junk for beating us. I would talk junk to whomever we beat too if we lose to Miss ST like the Gayturds did. Tech loss to Duke, and bad. Was that the same year they beat Allburn. I forget. UT loss to Vandy last year. So there you have all lost to the weak opp. that you say we play. GO DAWGS!!!
By Reasonable Dawg
September 18, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this
War Eagle I will say this: If those country bammers across the border had their own blog, what would you post on there. The only reason you hear us talk is bcuz you post on blogs for GA fans. We talk it cuz we live it. We did win those SEC Championships so we dont talk about “ifs” on here. Wait till 2020 for your school to discover the blogging concept, and we will see how post are really done right? GO DAWGS!!!!
By andy
September 18, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this
wow what a great thread, people are getting fired up and i like it.
i just wanna defend UGA’s schedule for a minute. true we played a 1-AA team, and trust me i would rather play Buffalo (the worst 1-A team) than a strong 1-AA team. However Georgia is certainly not the only team to do so- most most big time teams play one 1-AA team , especially now since we have 12 games in the regular season.
It’s not Georgia’s fault that Colorado’s sex and recruiting scandals finally caught up with them. Don’t forget the Buffs were the 01 Big 12 Champs, and I believe they’ve won their division for 4 out of the past 5 years.
Also it’s not Georgia’s fault that South Carolina can’t score a point. That was supposed to be a tough game for the Dawgs- can you imagine the uproar if we had lost that game 18-0??
We played Clemson in 02 and 03. We’ve got Arizona State and Oregon coming up (both upper echelon Pac 10 teams) and I think UGA has just scheduled Louisville (Ask Miami how much of a cupcake they are.) Not to mention we play Tech every year ( one of the better teams in the weak sauce ACC) and then the usual Top 10 SEC teams that we face, and I don’t see how anyone can slam our schedule.
Oh yeah UAB lost to Oklahoma by only 7 points, they’re certainly not a pushover- it’s just that we’re really good.
So now with the 12 game regular season, our non conference schedule breaks down like this: we play Tech every year, one solid BCS opponent, one above average non-BCS team (UAB, Boise State), and one just absolute tomato can. I don’t see how that’s any different from what most other schools do.
Maybe we could upgrade the Colorados to Oklahoma, and the Oregons to USC. That would perhaps be fun. But our schedule as it stands now is certainly respectable.
By mowen203
September 18, 2006 10:58 PM | Link to this
Where is Virginia Tech in this mix? They are 3-0 and have played a similar schedule to most of the other teams on Tony’s (SEC heavy)top 10 list. VT should be there. How about Clemson? 2-1 with an overtime loss at Boston College (another good ACC team)and a win at FSU. My point is that Tony is an SEC homer and this is another example of how he can pick 4 of 10 SEC teams in his top 10 hyper-salivating all the way. Sure, the ACC is down right now (3 games into the season). This is great for Tony as he can sink to the level of Max Howell and sing the praises of the glorious SEC with their powerhouses of Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss State, South Carolina and Arkansas. All these teams are so tough that GA, FL, LSU, Bama, Tenn and Auburn have resorted to playing the best high school teams they could find out of conference. All hail the SEC!!! Yeah right! The season is young yayhoos so stock up on brown liquor and smokes because the tough times are coming for the trailer dwelling myrmidons of the Sleazy Ethics Conference!
By Joe
September 19, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this
LOL! You gotta love Auburn fans. They’re good for a laugh. Their program is a joke. They’ve never accomplished anything worth mentioning. Have you counted how many SEC titles they’ve actually won? It’s a laugh riot. About half as many as UGA, and yet they crow about being an SEC powerhouse. If you ranked the SEC teams in terms of winning and tradition, Auburn wouldn’t make the top 5. That means they’re middle of the pack at best.
As for scheduling tough opponents, Auburn fans should be the last to throw stones. They were laughed at last year for their schedule. That’s why they couldn’t play for the title. As for Washington State, they aren’t worth a damn. They also play Tulane, Arkansas State, and frickin’ Buffalo. ROTFLMAO! Glass houses folks….glass houses!
By Hick from the sticks
September 19, 2006 07:50 AM | Link to this
Dear me…
Animosity abounds yet once again.
I’m actually shocked. None of you DomerHaters are too hung over from your party of Notre Dame suffering at the hands of…
well…
Notre Dame.
Here’s the deal folks. When you have four turnovers with a team like Michigan, (check the press. This is the only game they’ve been preparing themselves for the entire preseason. Both the players and Carr will tell you the same thing.) you’re going to get worked.
“Notre Dame’s defense is horrible.”
“Notre Dame’s defense is much maligned.”
Yup. We proved that on Saturday with no answers to combat zone blocking. Hart finds small gap, 5-10 yards.
“Notre Dame’s secondary is weak.”
Yup. Manningham. 3 Touchdowns on the day.
“Notre Dame hasn’t been scored on this many times since 1985.”
Correct.
I’m actually very glad this happened. I can not praise the Wolverines. (Dawg fans, that would be similar to you praising Tech for a good game against ND, Samford, and Troy, while your vaunted program plays such perrenial powerhouses like West Kentucky, and the ever dangerous University of Alabama-Birmingham. Let us not speak of soft schedules until we’ve actually played someone.) I think that this is just the shot in the a* ND so sorely needs. I’m thrilled that the drop has went from 2 to 12. You see, when you drop from such a great height, you fall hard. Ask USC.
USC.
Who played Nebraska.
And is somehow in Barnhardt’s top 10.
Mark, exactly what were you impressed with? The fact that the golden children pulled one off? Or the fact that you got to see Snoop Dogg do a small game break?
Give me a break, true believers. Dwayne Jarret. All-American. Possibly one of the next great things to come out of USC and make an impact in the NFL. Who did Nebraska match against him?
Oh! That’s right! A cornerback transfer who came from Junior College…what’s his name again? Shoots-his-mouth-off Smith?
You don’t have to be head cashier at Wal-Mart to know that’s a horrendous mismatch. USC should have been in the high 50’s at the end of that game. Not pushing a measley 28.
Not to take anything away from the Husker’s front 4/7. That’s a stout defense.
The secondary is questionable.
Man, that sounds familiar to us little Domer children.
In closing, SEC kiddies, please hurl not stones at ND. If you wish to search for the media’s true darlings now, look no further than sunny California.
And yes, I would love a match up with ND/SEC teams. At least I could get tickets. :)
God bless and keep Irish football.
By Sarccastik The Invincible
September 19, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly:
The Good…How ‘bout Miiichigan (i meant to do that) stompin’ the daylights out of Notre Dame….now if i hear another Brady for Heisman i’m gonna croak….Happy for Chris Leak getting a win in Tennessee …in a hostile environment
The Bad…Oh…those damn Pac-10 officials…i hope it was worth cheating Oklahoma (though i’m no fan..i gotta friend that i had to rub it in) We might need to check their bank accounts…to see if there are any huge lump sum deposits, you know, “friends” slipping them some fully pack thank-you cards. I’m glad they were suspended 1 game, everybody needs to be held accountable for their actions. (Though i’m not suggesting that’s the reason Oklahoma lost)
The Ugly…Those damn Miami Hurricanes who have the audacity to “stomp” on the Louisville bird….they got “stomped” out of the Pizza Box (Stadium is called Papa John Stadium). They no longer intimidate anyone anymore. Kyle Wright needs to get benched….Does Coker have a lovefest for Kyle Wright? I’ll investigate the backup of Wright and start sending anonymous suggestions to the Miami faithful to see.
And like The Pac-10 Officials and Replay Officials…..I’m Gone!!!!!!!
http://sarccastikenterprises.com
By Ed
September 19, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this
Auburns fans just need to take off their momma’s underwear, put down their boones farm and thank the lord that they have a sociology professor that is a fan! That school is so easy to get into a coma patient could do it. So all of you slack jawed morons just shut up. As far as you ACC weenies. Your ACC champion had to call in a favor from GOD to beat TROY!! Enough said!
By Frank
September 19, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this
A lot of smack from the Auburn fans but we’ll see. Georgia’s defense is as good as any in the SEC. Auburn beat LSU on official’s calls and Jamarcus Russell’s poor decision making. LSU won everywhere but the scoreboard. Auburn better improve before they play these Dawgs because CMR’s teams do improve. And as far as scheduling — UGA did get some breaks this year with Colorado down and the SEC west rotation but it hasn’t been that long since we had LSU, Alabama and Clemson before the UT game. Auburn lucked out last year against UGA because Tre Battle was out on his feet on that big play — no such luck this year. The dawgs will be ready.
By Kyle
September 19, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
Enough already! If Aub and Ark had taken care of business and had at least made a game of it against USC over the last few seasons then the SEC wouldn’t be struggling to gain respect. Auburn did it to itself in 2004 by not taking care of USC in the previous meetings.
Sure, previous seasons shouldn’t count when polsters are ranking teams during the current one but, fact is, perception is reality.
Yes, the SEC is the toughest conference bar none. We do canabolize each other year in and year out. Face it, to get to the NC it is a beauty contest and with the dominant defenses in the SEC in recent seasons, our winning ugly doesn’t impress the judges (i.e., voters) enough to get one of us into the top 2.
Meanwhile, the NFL picks up our SEC defensive players and couldn’t be happier (did you see the hitting on Sunday’s NFL games, much of it from former SECers?).
Kenny Irons, a star TB by anyone’s standards, was held in check by LSU. He would have gaudy numbers practically every game in any other conference.
How do we combate this?
Win and win big - especially against quality out of conference opponents.
Bring along the offenses within conference (a tall order with our dominating Ds).
Play inspired football at consolation bowl games. Alternatively, there are no consolation bowl games - they all matter. To that end, make players understand that every SEC team needs to play well in any bowl game to up our conference’s image.
Chuck this system and go to a playoff. I don’t care about the “every game matters” argument for keeping the current system. This current system is what is keeping us out of the NC. With 3-5 top ten contenders each year, the SEC would surely fair well in a playoff format.
By mb
September 19, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this
Most of the smack seems to be coming from the UGA fans. If you want to silence AU and UF people, beat their team on the field. Until you can do that, you need to park it.
Meanwhile, stop griping that the Dawgs aren’t getting respect until they beat somebody of note. You can convince everybody in Gainesville on Oct. 28…you have plenty of time to practice until then.
Kyle, don’t forget that UGA’s loss to WVU didn’t exactly help the SEC in terms of national prestige, nor did AU’s loss to Wisc.
By Reasonable Dawg
September 19, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this
To EVERYONE that is slamming UGA’s schedule consider this. We play three top 15 teams this year, and considering Techs conference, it might even be four ranked opponets.(Lets us know who your team is. Tell us how many top 15 teams are on the schedule, and what teams they are. That will end this debate. No SEC teams please, as that is the point I am trying to make.
By Reasonable Dawg
September 19, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this
mb, thats an Allburn problem. I am sure Wisconsin wants nothing to do with UGA, just ask them. Also, who cares who you lose to if you still win in Atlanta in Dec. All the Jax loss does is kill UGA’s momentum heading into Allburn. That loss hurt NC prospects a couple of times lately. And Allburn is tough to beat coming off of a moral buster.
By Kyle
September 19, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Additional thoughts:
With a playoff, the play on the field would force the issue with respect to strength of schedule. SEC schools have a meriad of legitimate reasons why they have difficulty scheduling quality out of conference games (the least of which it has been tough to get these other schools to schedule a home and home series with SEC schools (USC a notable exception)).
With a playoff, strength of schedule would become less important and we could expect outstanding matchups of the SEC elite against the elite of other conferences. Best thing, the matchups would be determined largely by the play of the teams on the field so that the ability of an individual AD to strike a deal with other schools would become irrelevant.
By mb
September 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
RD, the loss of NC prospects with a loss in Jax is exactly why you should care. Sure, SEC champs is great, but wouldn’t it be MUCH better to add NC on to that title?
The other reason to care is bragging rights. Let’s face it, those are very important in the SEC. And the only way to get those is on the field, head-to-head. Of course winning the SECCG is the goal, but I’d sure rather do it knowing that we beat the best to earn it.
By James
September 19, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
Junkyard, keep in mind that UGA hasn’t played any quality offenses this season. South Carolina? They’ve improved, I’ll give them that. But their offense still sucks. Don’t even get me started on UAB and Western Kentucky. Once they play somebody with an offense that’s worth anything, then you can brag.
Oh yeah, and the only decent defense that they’ve played is South Carolina. Once they play Tech, they’ll get what’s comin’ for them.
By Dawg_gone_truth
September 19, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Yeah Tony good top ten, but here is how it is going to play out. The Vols are going to win out, and beat the crap out of the dawgs young super boy Stafford. The gayturds are going to be beat by Auburn and Georgia, then the Vols beat the brakes off of Auburn in Atlanta. Then the bcs ingnores that fact that the SEC is by far and away the best conference in the nation and sends USC from the pansie conference and the Ohio State Butteyes to the title game, both teams that the third or fourth place SEC teams would wear out. That is how it is going to end up boys. Oh and Stafford is overated, who has he beaten?
By Dawg_gone_truth
September 19, 2006 02:39 PM | Link to this
Yeah Tony good top ten, but here is how it is going to play out. The Vols are going to win out, and beat the crap out of the dawgs young super boy Stafford. The gayturds are going to be beat by Auburn and Georgia, then the Vols beat the brakes off of Auburn in Atlanta. Then the bcs ingnores that fact that the SEC is by far and away the best conference in the nation and sends USC from the pansie conference and the Ohio State Butteyes to the title game, both teams that the third or fourth place SEC teams would wear out. That is how it is going to end up boys. Oh and Stafford is overated, who has he beaten?
By tim
September 19, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
which game out of conference game of Auburn’s are you people referring to when you talk about this “difficult” schedule Auburn has? Washington State (a worse team than GA Tech, which is saying something)? Arkansas State (worse than UAB)? Tulane (worse than Colorado, at least traditionally)? Buffalo (worse than Western Kentucky)? and please, spare me from the “we played USC two years in a row” garbage. when that game was scheduled, USC was a blip on the national radar. in fact, they only began to get noticed again after they went down to Auburn and embarrassed your #2 ranked team in the country.
and seriously, 15-10-1, 12-7-1, and 6-4, against a team is hardly “dominating”. I enjoy the heck outta this series and know that year in, year out, it will be a hard fought game (5 OTs anybody? last second miracle plays for BOTH sides?!?). but seriously, i have much respect for the Auburn program; can’t seem to figure out why that respect is not reciprocated.
By CJ
September 19, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
This silly annual strength of schedule argument is the main reason why a playoff system is needed in college football. The media and some coaches are have a bias for several particular programs- ND, USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas. The midwest media are particularly biased. All other schools will be on-the-outside-looking-in in a BSC championship game if these schools are in the mix. There is almost an air that they have a preordained right to be ranked higher vs. other programs with identical schedules and valid arguments- it makes me sick. WE NEED COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS!
By Bob
September 19, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
My oh my and the season has just started. Lots of emotion out there and much of it irrational. Yes the SEC is best conference most years, but not every year. This year it appears to be light years better than the others.
Georgia WHOLE SEASON schedule is a bit easier than other SEC challengers, but that is mainly because we have the two Mississippi schools in the rotation. Dawg haters did not talk about that two years ago when we had LSU, Bama and Auburn. Carolina is not very good…not sure how that is Georgia’s fault though. Colorado is way down, but again, not sure how that is anyone’s fault but theirs. As long at the Gators and Dawgs play their game in Jacksonville and have their traditional ending game against non SEC opponents (FSU and Tech) we will be limited in scheduling. Yeah, I know…Florida played home and home with Miami for couple of years, but we did same with Clemson who has done quite well against the Canes.
Georgia is 7-1 against Big Ten Teams (7-2 if you count Penn State in 83 Sugar when they were still independent). Since 65 they are 7-0 against Michigan, Ohio State, Purdue, Michigan State and Wisconsin. Last time I checked, those were the better teams in the Big Ten, less Iowa. Throw in Notre Dame and the record is 8-0. Still, I wish we had scheduled more intersectional games and am glad we are working toward that now.
If, if , if. If Auburn had not missed 5 field goals against LSU in Baton Rouge, they would have won SEC title? Well, maybe, but they would have had to replay a team that they beat by one point on the next to last play of the game. Seems like LSU was claiming the title last year before the game got played.
Georgia fans need to cool it too. We are ranked about where we should at this point in the season….we have played one decent team in UAB and two weaklings. Think we will be real good by end of season, but right now you cannot rationally say we should be ranked better than 9th or 10th. Lets defer that discussion until late November.
Of course, all this is what makes college football the best game going.
By CJ
September 19, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
I agree with the earlier poster that said in order for the SEC to be perennially considered the superior conference:
1)SEC schools must convincingly win out of conference regular season games against media created darlings (AU vs. USC, Alabama vs. OK, Tenn vs. ND)
2)SEC schools need to stay off probation.
3)SEC schools must consistently dominate bowl games. (UGA vs WV, AU vs. Wisconsin)
4)Bottom feeder SEC schools- Kentucky, Ole Miss, South Carolina, MSU- need to be better.
By Bob
September 19, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this
C.J. Good comments. Agree with most everything you said, but I think the bowl records speak for themselves. The SEC has by far the best bowl winning percentage if you look at all the bowls as far back as they go. However, just looking at the last 10 years for the BCS bowls only, they shake out like this: SEC 8-4 Big Ten 9-6 Big 12 7-7 Pac 10 6-6 Big East 5-6 (Miami, Va Tech games until 04 and 05 counted for Big East) ACC 2-8
While perhaps not totally dominating, that is a pretty good indicator. Now, if you choose the other 4 New Years Day Bowls over the same period of time, it becomes even more dominating:
SEC 20-12 PAC 10 7-6 ACC 10-10 Big 10 17-18 Big 12 11-13 Big East 7-12
Again, I wish we would play more intersectional games, agree on the probation crap and our weaker teams are really weak.
By Reasonable Dawg
September 19, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
mb. Does it make you feel any better when you beat the best and still dont even make it. Then UGA makes it and wins it against teams that beat you.
By mb
September 19, 2006 07:23 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure, RD. If AU was having a down year with losses to Ark, Vandy, MSU, etc., and then beat Bama and UGA, I wouldn’t be happy with the season overall, but I’d probably be smiling a little in November.
Last year AU had a great shot at the SECCG, but they didn’t beat LSU. No sour grapes here, we missed kicks and that happens in football.
My point is that if I’m a UGA fan, I would have much rather earned the right to go to the SECCG with victories against UF and AU than having to wait until the KY game. Still happy with the crown, but would have preferred to get it by winning all three.