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Do some Braves fans owe Kotsay an apology?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
These Braves sure are a streaky team. After winning five in a row in mid-April, they lost two, won two and then reeled off four consecutive losses before starting May off with four straight wins.
But I’m not complaining. They’re back over .500 and only 1.5 games out of first, so as long as that pendulum keeps swinging farther toward the wins than the losses, they’ll be fine.
In winning their fourth in a row last night, they got another solid performance out of Jair Jurrjens, who notched his fourth win in seven starts this year (he allowed only one run in six innings, scattering seven hits), and Chipper continued to prove he’s the hottest hitter in baseball, coming through with a two-run homer in the third and raising his league-leading average to .426.
Those two guys have been huge in keeping this team afloat through injuries and some hard luck, but the guy who has my attention today is Mark Kotsay.
Over the past 15 games, Kotsay has gone 22-for-57, increasing his average from .220 to .308, including a two-hit, two-RBI game last night — topped off by a stellar defensive play in center.
Chipper told Mark Bowman of MLB.com: “Not to take anything away from Andruw, he’s the best defensive center fielder I’ve seen, plain and simple. But there just haven’t been that many instances where Kots didn’t get to a ball and you said, ‘Well, Andruw would have had that.’”
It sounds to me like the Braves are getting more than they’d hoped for out of their “stop-gap” centerfielder, who may be fully healthy for the first time since 2004. I’ll admit that I hadn’t expected this much from him.
So, what do you think? Do some Braves fans owe Mark Kotsay an apology for rushing to judgment, or is he merely playing the way you thought he would? Maybe the jury is still out for you?
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By geekboy
May 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Crow tastes pretty good … as long as the Braves are winning. I admit Kotsay looks like he has turned the corner since being given a couple of days off. Hopefully he can keep it up. While he’s hot, he might earn a spot atop the order instead of KJ (but I would put Escobar at #1 and Kotsay at #2, Escobar forces pitchers to WORK).
Let’s just hope he stay healthy.
My big complaint now is Tex. The way he’s playing we’ll be able to afford his Scott Boras overpriced butt come winter. The dude can’t hit lefties.
By sarfdawg
May 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Andruw Jones, as of this morning, is hitting .163 with 1 HR and 4 RBI. He is again clearly overweight, and to say that he has lost multiple steps in the outfield is completely accurate. The Braves surely can’t miss his non-chalant attitude toward conditioning and hustle.
I hope that he and Boras are living happily together in Los Angeles.
Congratulations on your good start, Mark Kotsay, and continued good luck!
By Shane
May 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Andrew who??? GO BRAVES!
By PJ
May 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Hotsey Kotsay!
By Ben
May 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Have you seen the stats on Andruw Jones? Their awful! Kotsay is having a far better season. I would much rather have Kotsay in CF for the Braves than Andruw right now!
By LivininAL
May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
Kotsay is doing exacty what the braves signed him to do.
By NS from Kennesaw
May 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Was talking about Kotsey lately as well. He is very good. Hope he stays healthy the rest of the season.
Also, completely agreed with GEEKBOY, our dude at 1B need to get in his groove (offensively) soon.
GO BRAVES !!
By steve
May 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I must admit that Andruw was my favorite Brave. I hope he gets things turned around in LA, but it does not look likely at this point. I think he is probably pressing a bit as well after signing a big free agent contract.
As far as Kotsay is concerned, in the field he is doing what I expected. He is a good defensive player - very fundamentally sound. He is exceeding my expectations at the plate and I hope he continues to do so. It is, however, very early.
I do wish Braves fans would stop bashing Andruw. No matter how he struggled last year and continues to do so this year for the Dodgers, let us not forget what a great player he was for us for a long time. He is the best defensive CF I have ever seen and he loved this town and he loved being a Brave. Let us not forget his contributions. I am still rooting for him (except against us!).
By Buffalo Chip
May 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
This is crazy. Kotsay is a notoriously streaky hitter. You know how they say ‘If you don’t like the weather, Just wait a minute.’ Well I say, just wait a minute. He will disappoint.
By tex
May 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
steve is right. People need to forget about Andruw and support Kotsay. Even if Kotsay ends up hitting 275 or so, with medium offensive numbers (25/80 or so), he will have done his job and been a solid addition.
By Bobby Cox
May 7, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Good. Now you owe me an apology, Chop Chick, for your comments last week.
By Dick
May 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Steve I don’t think peple are bashing Andrew Jones. I think they are using this means as a way of saying we supported management NOT meeting his salary request. If I was Boby, I would place McCann at 4th and Tex about 6 or 7th. Tex is coming up with too many opportunities and not delivering. Tex and Francoue could take a few lessons from Jones, Escabor, and McCann—hit the pitch where it was thrown, don’t try to pull.
By West Cobb Dad
May 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
It was always nice to have AJ in center because of his abilities, but I was estatic when he left (tired of the diva attitude in center). And when we picked up Kotsay, someone who is a fundimental ball player, the Bravos solidified their run for the title. Consistancy wins games these days, not going on a hot streak just 2 months out of the year. One of the BEST moves they did this year along with Jergens. Now they just need to get some of those young guns from the farm to go 7 innings. Show time for the youngsters like back in the early 90’s.
By concerned
May 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Kotsay is such an overall upgade from Andruw, he’s way more than just a stop gap player. A very astute pick up so far. And his back fragility gives Cox plenty of opportunity to audition younger guys, where Andruw player them all, while below the Mendoza line with the sticks. But I’m also concerned about the president of the Scott Boros fan club at 1B. His feilding is superb, but why is his “historically slow” hitting getting such a pass from the media? This is the second week of May. Converting in any one of his “o fors” could have won those one run losses the Braves have sustained so far this season. I guess we should be satisfied with his “protecting” Chipper to such an outstanding start.
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 7, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Kotsay is looking terrific this year! I was hoping that he’d play up to his potential and put up numbers close to his 2004 numbers (.314, 15 hr, 190 hits in 148 games). Expecting it was a different story.
But I don’t think his performance is entirely unprecedented — he had back surgery last year and has had plenty of time to recover from it, and he said back in January that his back was feeling pretty good.
And it’s very hard to argue with the results, and nobody would say now that the Braves should’ve kept Andruw Jones. Mark’s been good in the clutch all year and hasn’t racked up too many strikeouts…unlike that other guy.
By tampabravos
May 7, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
This is actually funny I was just talking about the exact same thing last night with one of my braves buddies. Andrew vs Kotsay….Kotsay is freaking doing an amazing job. I honestly never heard of him until we signed him. He has been doing an outstanding year. I think the Braves fans will miss him more next season than they will ever miss andrew.
By Richie
May 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Buffalo Chip, I am sure that Kotsay will have his struggles at the plate through the course of this season just like all players do. However, I do not think you can call a career 282 avg. player a streaky hitter. I have followed Kotsay’s career from the time he broke into the league with Fla. to his time with SD and Oakland and all he does is play solid defense and hit line drives. Those who know and are in baseball all say that the Braves STOLE Mark Kotsay. Fundamentally sound, great base-runner, great- hitter and perhaps a better clubhouse presence than the sometimes distant and self-absorbed Andruw Jones. Also, who can possibly be more streaky at the plate than Andruw has been over the last several years. So, my belief is that Braves fans will be wanting more than just one season of the consistent, blue-collar style of play they see in Mark Kotsay.
By Jerry
May 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
If Kotsay ends up with 15 homers, 80 rbi and a .280 avaerage I would be happy.
However, if he was put in the 2 hole behind Escobar those numbers would increase.
KJ is a number 8 hitter and I would have put Prado as my starter had he stayed healthy.
Tex is struggling some by swinging at balls and looking at strikes. If Cox would put him in the 2 hole for just a couple of games, behind Escobar, he would see some better pitches and hit himself into a groove. He’s not even hitting the ball solid.
McCann needs to catch 3 games then take one off. Pena needs to play some but Brian is our man.
Why does Bobby let Ring pitch to only 1 batter.
Boyer needs to ditch his curve. Its embarassing.
I sure will be glad when we get that Hampton contract over with. Wren could use that money.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!
By Kris in NC
May 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned about Kotsay is he is always makes contact, rarely does he strike out. In the field, he goes and gets it. On the double from Blanco, he scored from 1B. Talk about hustle.
I am not sure if anyone saw the post game interview, since he was the player of the game, he said, Jurrjens should have been not him considering what Jurrjens did. Since the start of the season, Kotsay has missed 2 games and that was due to a stiff neck, not anything to do with his back. I think I was alittle scared about him but he sure has proved me wrong. He is hitting .308 with 3 HR and 14 RBI’s. I will take his $2M contract over AJ’s weak below the Mendoza line BA, 1 HR and 4 RBI and $18M contract. Yeah, Kotsay might be a stop gap but he might have worked himself into a contract for another yr or two if he continues playing like this.
If Tex gets on the ball and everyone joins the party at the same time, this lineup will be dangerous.
By jeffc
May 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
I’ll apologize when Kotsay sends me some of the millions he’s making. If a player wears the Atlanta Braves uniform, the fans are going to hold you to a high standard. That said, he’s playing pretty good, for a Rent-a-Brave.
By Andruw
May 7, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
I’ll gladly play CF today for a hamburger Tuesday.
By TBraveFan
May 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
And he is so darn cute doing all the fantastic things he does…also an upgrade over ummm… now — who was that guy who used to be out there??? hmmmmmm
All I can say is that sitting next to the dugout has never been so wonderful as it has been this year!
By Navigator
May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
At least Kotsay isn’t embarrassing the Braves like Jones is the Dodgers. The fall of Andruw is permanent, and the Dogers are the recipient of making the bad decision that the Braves didn’t.
By Andruw
May 7, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Kotsay will never be too good until he puts some meat on his bones. mmmmm, speaking of meat…hand me some of that hamburger over there.
By Mike S
May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Kotsay is one of those players every team needs and every team loves to have.
He is not a superstar, and never will be, but he is a fundamentally sound 110% butt busting worker who will give his all every inning of every game. He will never hit 40 HR, drive in 120, or light up the highlight reels every night with circus catches.
What he will do, is give you a good solid at bat every time he comes up. Move runners over if that is what is called for. Throw to the cutoff or correct base when needed. And be an above average fielder who while not spectacular will also not hurt you by trying to make plays that he has no chance of pulling off.
If the Braves make the playoffs and hopefully bring another Championship to Atlanta, Mark Kotsay will not win any awards, but he will be recognized by his manager and teammates as being one of the vital cogs that made it possible.
And no team can ask for more than that.
By rob
May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
How could he not be good? Have you seen his wife! Seriously, Mark plays his guts out, and he is a great addition to the team. Kotsay is going to give us a solid high 200’s batting average with a lot of clutch RBI’s and probably about 14 home runs. You can’t ask for more than that for what we are paying him. He deserves an extension to give the HGH Boy more time to grow up and lose the tarnish on his rep.
But, why do you have to put down Andruw to praise Kotsay. Andruw gave us more than a decade of exciting play and dedication. He is having a tough time right now, but he should always get our respect and applause. To denegrate him is ridiculous.
By rob
May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
How could he not be good? Have you seen his wife! Seriously, Mark plays his guts out, and he is a great addition to the team. Kotsay is going to give us a solid high 200’s batting average with a lot of clutch RBI’s and probably about 14 home runs. You can’t ask for more than that for what we are paying him. He deserves an extension to give the HGH Boy more time to grow up and lose the tarnish on his rep.
But, why do you have to put down Andruw to praise Kotsay. Andruw gave us more than a decade of exciting play and dedication. He is having a tough time right now, but he should always get our respect and applause. To denegrate him is ridiculous.
By TPM
May 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Andruw Jones and Barry Zito are both dead wood contracts
By Brian
May 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Can we please stop being so rough on Andrew Jones? How soon Atlanta fans forget how he helped us get all those division titles. Rather then have negative feelings about him we should all hope he finds his bat and becomes the player we all remember him to be. Mark K is producing better number right now…but its a long season…and right now Andrews career as a Brave far out shines anything Mark K has done here. Andrew will always be a Brave to me, even if his jersey says otherwise.
By Richie
May 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Rob, I agree with you. I don’t think that anyone needs to put down Andruw to praise Kotsay. Andruw is without a doubt the best centerfielder I have ever seen play and he came to play EVERY day, often times hurt.
However, I do believe that it is fair for fans to give an honest critique because as much as Andruw gave to the Braves, the Braves gave ALOT to Andruw and so the fans should have high expectations. My feeling is that the Braves seem to always be good at knowing the right time to cut a player loose. Example: Javy Lopez, Marcus Giles, to name a few. It is hard to see Andruw struggling so mightily like he is in LA right now. However, I would much rather him be doing that in a Dodgers uniform than a Braves uniform, and that is not bashing him, that is just the way baseball is.
By Hal Todd
May 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Seems to me that our relief pitchers could stay in the game until they begin to slip. Our pinch hitters can only make outs while we change pitchers. Let the pitchers hit.
By el jefe
May 7, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
kotsay has a superhot wife.
mmmmmmm….
By eric the elder
May 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Many of us grew weary of Andruw’s Ks, the rally-killing DPs, and the smirk. We would have seen Donald Duck as an upgrade.
Still, I admit I was one of the skeptics regarding Kotsay, especially concerning his health. Ironically, just about every Brave has been hurt and/or DL-ed - - except Kotsay!
He has looked real good and has been contributing, so I will eat a little crow, but not a full meal. I’m not ready to join the parade based on a good run over just 15 games. If he is still performing consistently well in August, I will don a hair shirt.
By Kashi
May 7, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Leave batting order the way it is. If ain’t broken, don’t try to fix it. Chipper is hitting cuz pitcher knows they have to face Tex, who can hit out of park with one swing. I like Kotsay hitting 7th. He can drive in runs if Frenchy or Big Mac gets on base. Go Braves!
By Dana
May 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Brian -
Andrew always was a rally killer to the Braves. The only time he hit in the playoffs was when he first came up and it was agaisnt the Yankees. He could catch a ball but he is a no#8 hitter at best.
By Workinlkeadawg
May 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
At least he puts the ball in play, not a BIG strike out guy. He’s not just a run of the mill defensive CF either. Kotsay and Blanco are coming thru for Escobar and Chipper. Now if Tex would start to get hot. Still can’t over emphasize the trade for Jair: He along with Reyes might resurrect the starting rotation.
By homeboy upstairs
May 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Mark Kotsay is exactly what the braves needed in CF… quality defense, good contact hitter, some power, great veteran leadership.
out of those 4 things i just named, Andruw had one (defense)
Andruw was terrible.
He wont hit above .260 for the rest of his shortened career.
He’ll be out of baseball within 6 years.
No one wants to pay $16 million to a over-rated centerfielder who gets fatter every year.
Current stats 32 games, 105 AB, 17 hits, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 36 K’s.
Yeah he’s worth the $16 million yall wanted to give him last year.
Im sure if we go back in the archives we can find plenty of AJC articles saying how we should ‘give andruw whatever he wants, he’s the best CF in baseball, he’s been so good for the braves, yada yada yada’
He’s not even the best CF in the state of California.
By wake up
May 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
West Cobb Dad: you, sir, are an idiot. How can you call Andruw a “diva”. Maybe I’m getting picky about wording, but he went out there every day and played, hurt or not. He never complained and was always a team player. Yeah, he is sucking this year and the Dodgers were dumb to pay him so much, but he gave this city a lot of good baseball. Show some respect.
Also, you saying that “consistency wins games” followed by praising the Kotsay move doesnt make sense. As somebody else pointed out, he is notoriously streaky. I am happy with the guy just like everyone else, but you just dont know what you are talking about. This is why I shouldnt read these stupid message boards.
By stynes
May 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Kotsay has done a great job and while I don’t think those around baseball feel as if he’s performing above his abilities, I think most would be lying if they didn’t admit he’s performing above expectations. Those expectations had certainly been lowered because of injuries, etc.
As far as Chipper’s comment… He’s doing what a good teammate does and it’s complete BS. I’ll admit that Kotsay has done a great job but a better defensive CF than Andruw? Puh-lease. Andruw when in his prime here in Atlanta was one of if not the best defensive CF the game has ever seen. Kotsay has done a great job but he’s not the best Chipper or I have ever seen and he knows that.
By Richard
May 7, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
I’ll take Mark Kotsay as a solid baseball player any day over Andruw Jones. Andruw’s major problem is his attitude - he’s “outgrown” the game.He is unwilling to listen to coaches’ advice. Kotsay has a real baseball attitude..he’s team player and and has a great attitude.
By BIRDMAN,SR.
May 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
I’VE ALWAYS HAD SPLIT FEELINGS ABOUT KOTSAY. I’VE SAID ANDREW WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT, ANDREW WOULDN’T HAVE HIT THAT. EVENTHOUGH WREN GETS THE REDIT, SCHOURHOLTZ HAS DONE IT AGAIN! ANDREW WAS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK AFTER HE SHOWED UP IN CAMP, A BISCUIT SHY OF 300LBS.
By BossLady
May 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Will there ever come a time when we can give KOYSAY his due without going on about Andruw? He is gone and we need to move on also.
By BossLady
May 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Will there ever come a time when we can give KOTSAY his due without going on about Andruw? He is gone and we need to move on also.
By Living in the past
May 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
why is it everyone wants to live in the past.
Andruw may have been the best defensive CF in the league at one point in time….that doesnt mean diddly-squat now.
Andruw did make some great plays while with the braves, but just because he has a solid glove doesnt mean we should overlook the other 4 tools of what makes up a great baseball player (hitting for average, hitting for power, arm, speed, and glove)
Andruw is a bad seed…will never change. He, like so many of you, want to hang your hat on the fact that he USED to be great in the OF, that he USED to be the best defensive CF in the game.
and to call him the greatest CF of all time is just silly.
By rob
May 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
I agree that the Braves are superb at knowing when to let guys go, and who to get to replace them. I wanted Andruw to be a Brave his entire career, but undoubtedly Andruw is not the player he was from 1996-2005.
I am all in for Kotsay now. I would like to see him get a 2 year extension. We aren’t ready to hand the keys to center to one of the studs in the minors. Blanco is our legit left fielder because Diaz is never going to be an everyday player. Schafer really disappointed me with the HGH deal, and I am not sure we should even keep him. Heyward needs at least 2 years before we bring him up, so I say extend Kotsay through 2010.
It looks like we may have to give up Gorkys and some other prospects to get an arm to join the rotation. There is no replacing Smoltzie, but we are going to need someone to come in. Huddy, JJ, Glav, Jo Jo, and Chuckie won’t get us to October. I believe in the top 3, but we are going to need more depth at 4-5.
At least the bullpen will be righteous with Gonzalez and Smoltzie coming in around the second week of June.
By Sam
May 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
stynes,
Chipper wasn’t saying that Kotsay is better than Andruw. He’s saying that Kotsay’s defense isn’t lacking compared to what he saw with Andruw. He can’t point to many fly balls or liners that Andruw would have gotten.
By Zerevon
May 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
How soon you guys forget about Andruw and his spectacular plays when he was here with us..yes Cotsay is doing better right now.. yes we love to have him..yes we needed to trade Andruw..yes he is slipping..but show some appreciation for him..he had saved many games for us thru the years and he was an AWSOME PLAYER TO WATCH FOR YEARS . Many pitchers owe him many of their wins…that is the truth and no one can deny that….GO BRAVES… GO KOTSAY….but don’t go far we really need you KOTSAY…!
By trey
May 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
I remember meeting Kotsay when I was still a child when he played for the Marlins and he was a really nice guy, out of nowhere he tossed me some bubble gum. I am in the military now so I don’t get to see the Braves play as much anymore.
By trey
May 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
I remember meeting Kotsay when I was still a child when he played for the Marlins and he was a really nice guy, out of nowhere he tossed me some bubble gum. I am in the military now so I don’t get to see the Braves play as much anymore.
By Blue Water
May 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Hats off to a darn good outfielder. It’s fun to watch him play. He is himself and the Braves knew when to get rid of Andruw. Seen his batting ave lately.
By dack jerrick
May 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Last year Andruw was pressing because it was his “contract year”. This year he’s pressing because he’s “got the big contract”. He was the best center fielder to ever play this game but although he started very young at the Major League level (age 19) it has sadly ended very quickly for him skill-wise. It’s a sad thing to watch but he is completely over-matched by every pitcher he faces. When he hits a ball hard somewhere it’s a lucky lick. To quote Thomas Wolfe: “too bad, too bad, too bad”.
By Willie Mays
May 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Dack Jerrick
Youre wrong, he’s not the best CF to play the game
Sadly enough for Andruw being the best at something means you take into account all aspects of the game. Not just how many diving catches you make.
you gotta hit too Nancy.
CF’s better than Andruw 1. Willie Mays 2. Mickey Mantle 3. Ty Cobb 4. Joe Dimaggio
Just to name a few that could catch it and hit it.
By Joe
May 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, the fans should apologize to this MILLIONAIRE baseball player because they weren’t convinced he could do his job as well as the next guy. Yeah, I see that happening.
What world are you living on? He’s doing the job he’s being paid for. What more does he (or you) want?
By RobJ99
May 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
I’d like to keep Kotsay for a few more years as more than a stop gap. He will be affordable and productive, which is what we need if we want to re-sign Tex!
By Rain Delay
May 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
The reason Ring doesn’t pitch more, is because righties smack him around to no end. Ring is a LOOGY, he’s only good for getting Lefties out.
By Scott Canevit
May 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see Mark Kotsay playing well and to see his team gain confidence in him. I was very concerned about how the team would do defensively without Andruw, but Kots has been a welcome surprise. It’s kind of funny, but the Brewers fans here in Milwaukee had the same concerns regarding Jason Kendall and he’s been as much a welcome surprise as Kots. You just can’t take anything away from these gutsy players and I hope things continue well for Kots. After all, we may need him a little longer than just this season!
By rob
May 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Mantle played right moron
By Ross
May 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
If you look at his stats with the Marlins, Padres, and As, he’s remarkably consistent. His personality also seems very steady and professional. So it’s no surprise at all.
-drl
By Patrick
May 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Triple crown for Chipper!!
By BIRDMAN,SR.
May 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? IF YOU ARE A FAN OF ATLANTA’S SPORTS FRANCHISES, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE BRAVES ARE THE ONLY TEAM WE’VE HAD TO CONSISTENTLY CHEER FOR. SO WHAT WE HAVE ONLY 1 OUT OF 14! MY BIRDS(HAWKS& FALCONS) DOESN’T HAVE THAT BETWEEN THEM.SO LETS KEEP THOSE TOMOHAWKS CHOPPIN, & DEM DAWGS BARKIN. TIL THEM BIRDS CAN CATCH UP.
By pavard
May 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
I thought Kotsay was more productive that Andruw before he went on this hot streak. He was putting the ball in play, playing solid center field, and with runners on he wasnt striking out or hitting into an inning-ending double play like Andruw did time and time again last season.
Does anyone miss Andruw? If so, check out his stats so far this season.
By Robert
May 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Who would you rather have in CF right now…Kotsay or Jones? If you have to ask that question, you already know the answer.
By TP fan
May 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Kotsay is streaky? Andruw was an ongoing project at the plate… a lazy kid who obviously had power and, for one glorious season, finally found his groove… at which point he promptly quit listening to his coaches and trainers, waiting to cash in on that big free-agent deal Boras would surely deliver. Well, the Dodgers were suckered into it, and I, for one, don’t miss his grinning strike-outs one little bit.
By Dan
May 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Heck, some AJC columnists may owe him an apology as well!
By Andrew
May 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry…I just can’t feel sorry for Andruw. He’s not playing this way because he old or because he’s hurt, he’s playing this way because he’s fat and lazy. Anyone who sugar coats it is delusional. If I had gotten that kind of contract after a crappy year I’d have hit the weights and the cage every day over the winter, not sat around like Jabba the Hutt admiring my surgically enhanced old lady (they are nice, though, for those that haven’t seen them). His talents have finally eroded to the point where he can’t get by on natural talent anymore (at least not at the plate). Does he have any sort of excuse for showing up in training camp at 260 lbs? Jeez, at least say you have a thyroid problem or something!
By mark
May 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Anyone who didn’t think Kotsay could get the job done (if healthy) and put up pretty good numbers doesn’t know baseball. With Schaffer’s poor decision making I think it’s safe to say that his arrival in the bigs has been moved back a year. I think CF will be just fine as long as Kotsay is healthy.
By GLep
May 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
In my opinion, kotsay and Jurjens are the best pickups the Braves have made in a while. As for Tex, It’s just another example of why GM’S should stay away from anything that involves Anybody named Boris. He fills the kids heads with stars and dollr signs and they turn into overpaid pipedreamers. Put Kotsay behind Hoss and let’s rumble!!
By Harry Rand
May 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
I knew Kotsay was pretty good and then I here he’s healthy for the first time in years. Let me describe the difference in Andruw Jones and Mark Kotsay. A.J. is a washed up 30 year old and Kotsay is .275 hitter who can go get it in centerfield. A.J. is hitting .150 and has 35 strikeouts in 100 ABs. Thank you A.J. for asking for so much money. Good ridance he’s L.A’s problem now. He was a great player, I say was. Add his arrogance to all that and you know why I feel like I do.
By Mickey Mantle
May 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
ROB
OH REALLY!!!!
Mantle moved to center field in 1952, replacing Joe DiMaggio, who retired at the end of the 1951 season after one year playing alongside Mantle in the Yankees outfield. He played center field until 1967
Who’s the moron now…MORON!!!!
Do not try it Rob….you will only fail
By Zach
May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Chop Chick,
I think that you owe Kotsay an apology as well as Bobby Cox.
thats all.
By TomaHawk Matt
May 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
SlopChick should go apologize to Bobby Cox right after she puckers up to Kotsay. Please insert foot into mouth or unplug your keyboard the next time you want to bash Bobby Cox! It’s the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard… “time for Bobby to Hang It Up?”
Yep… I know… Leave poor SlopChick alone : (
WELL, Everyone gets to have an opinion, right? And This Is Mine!
Where’s DOB? Please Dave… Earth to Dave? Come back Dave. Dave? Where are you Dave?
GO BRAVES!!!!
By Hi, my name is Rob...Im a moron
May 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I thought I was so right by saying the mick played right field.
boy was i wrong, i apologize for being such a moron.
maybe next time ill do some research before i post.
nah, probably not….cause Im a moron remember.
By proeye
May 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Look, Mark Teixiera will get going after awhile. Don’t worry about that.
And what is with you people with this “He can’t hit lefties” baloney??? Where did this come from? He is a switch hitter! Yeah, not so good are a righty this year but what about previous years? These stats are BA, OBA, Slugging batting righty against lefties.
2008: .182 .265 .273 2007: .357 .435 .565 2006: .302 .379 .598 2005: .292 .361 .497 2004: .313 .395 .564
I’m not going to post what he hit as a lefthander but I can assure you his average was generally higher batting righthanded. Look at those slugging percentages, do you really think he drops off?
So settle down, don’t get your drawers in a knot, and let’s wait for Teixiera to get hot this summer… I bet he carries the team from June 1 on.
By TomaHawk Matt
May 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Rob…
Don’t you worry. You’re alongside good company here.
GO HUDDY!!! SPANK SOME PADRES!
By Barry
May 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
I’m not surprised one bit with Kotsay’s performance so far this season. He’s always been a quality, lunch pail player. He’s a five-tool veteran who brings something to the ballpark that Andruw didn’t: Discipline.
Why couldn’t Andruw consistently hit outside pitches to the opposite field? Discipline.
Why did he show up to camp overweight every year since 2000? Discipline.
I’ve always loved Andruw based on his potential and raw skills. I thought he’d be the next Hammerin’ Hank.
Instead, he’s a guy who refuses to stop stepping in the bucket and attempting to pull every pitch he sees. I’m glad he’s gone, and I’ve liked the Kotsay move from Day 1.
Kots has one of the best arms I’ve ever seen and he works hard at his craft. I hope Atlanta is his last home. He certainly sets a wonderful example for the young outfielders in the organization.
By Drexel Gal
May 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
This reminds me of the plight of big-nosed former third baseman Doug DeCinces, who once lamented, “I played between two legends”. (Brooks Robinson and Cal Ripken, Jr.) “The Horn” often heard shouts from the stands, “Brooks woulda’ had it!”, whenever a grounder or liner whizzed past him. He had a fine career in his own right, including five seasons of 20 or more homers, in a shorter career than either Robinson or Ripken. With rare exceptions (such as, Yaz), the player replacing the legend is going to suffer by comparison.
By Monor Meeting
May 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Hey Rob and Chop Chick
I would like to officially invite you guys to our weekly moron meeting.
We dicuss things such as greatest center fielder of all-time (not Mickey, right Rob)
and we also discuss why Bobby should hang em up
and we’ve even been known to get into the debate of which came first, the chicken or the egg. I’m still voting with the chicken on that one.
this weeks topics will include: 1. roller skating, did it really die with disco? 2. why being a moron is ok, as long as youre surrounded by other morons 3. the literary difference between your and you’re 4. using turn signals while driving…not something us morons do
Chop Chick…if you need directions, call rob…he knows where it it
By Marty H
May 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Kotsay has been a breath of fresh air at the plate and better than I expected in the field. Whenever Andruw came up, I was waiting for the next “K”. To comment on Tex, let him go, give center to one of the kids and move Kots to first. Or move Chipper over to 1st, Yunel to 3rd and give short to Infante. In any case, nice to have enough depth to have all those options…
By Bob Sakamano
May 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Shouldn’t that be “Moron Meeting”
Guess you’re living up to your title.
By Ryan V.
May 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I never doubted Kotsay, the only thing that would have made me doubt was his back injury. However, I still had faith that he’d play well.
Kotsay has always been that player that I hated to watch us play against. When he was with Florida, it always seemed like when they needed a gapper he’d be the guy that would do it. Kotsay is a scrapper. He’s not going to hit you 30 homeruns or probably not 20, however, he’s a guy that will hit around .300 great amount of doubles, 15 or so homeruns, knock in a good amount of guys and will play rock solid defense.
I loved it when I heard we picked him up.
By bravedawg
May 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
I’m not going to lie, Andruw was one of my favorite players. Definately not for his consistant hitting (that’s sarcasm by the way), but watching his defense was a blast. I appreciate what he did here, but I think everyone can agree we needed someone that could be more disciplined and more consistant. Mark Kotsay, was a gamble but not a major gamble. For the price ole Wren is looking like JS re-visited. I like his demeanor and the fact he never seems rattled. I hope he can keep it going. Now if we can get Tex rolling, watch out.
By Joshhh
May 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
the pick up of Kotsay has looked to be the greatest deal of the off season. But I have to say that I was completely fine with Andruw being gone because although he has amazing unseen defensive skills his offense is terrible in every aspect. Therefore I believe that Chop Chick (whom I don’t think should even be writing for AJC, along with another ehem Mr. Moore) should apologize.
I would like to know what’s wrong with Tex though, yeah we heard the excuse that he starts off slow but guess what? It’s May! time to get over your slump. The one good thing about him doing bad is that we’ll be able to pick him up with a reasonable price.
with all that said GO BRAVES!!!
By carmatter
May 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Andruw pressing? I never got the sense that he felt any pressure at all or that he cared what anyone thought about him, his performance, or his contract.
By monty
May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
You can tell that Kotsay with his short swing shouldn’t fall into any prolonged slumps.He’s really doing great. Andrew though is in denial, when I heard he said he actually gained weight on purpose to get his Homerun swing back I knew something was wrong, he sounded dead serious. He was one of my favorites, it’s sad to see him without a clue and seemingly uncaring about it. If he was playing up to his potential, fans would be saying we should have never let him get away.
By a*******play
May 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Didn’t we sign Scott Spezio and if so where is he at?
Kotsay is kickin a* !
By Mark Knopfler
May 7, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
I though Kotsay was a cheap stiff who would be an inexpensive placeholder. Someone who wouldn’t lose you games, but wouldn’t do much toward winning them, either.
All in all, he doesn’t suck. Who knew?
By rob
May 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
It’s been twenty minutes, you need to post to call me out again.
I was wrong. You got me, my life is over.
By RAA
May 7, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Kotsay has done pretty good. There are some plays that use to made that are not being made. But he is doing good for us and his batting avg. is above .212 and look at A. Jones now.
By scott boras
May 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
scott spezio has problems and quickly got cut by missing a game! norton is the bench replacement(we think).go braves 2008 playoff bound
By Tami
May 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Well, I wasn’t one of those who jeered loudly about the Kotsay trade. I was a tiny bit shocked a CF was found capable enough to fill the vacancy without having to go to the minors prematurely. I am pleasantly surprised, though, that Kotsay has played so well…I’m almost to the point of saying “Andruw who?” Good job, Mark!
By RichmondBrave
May 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Kotsay is doing great, and like some others before me, I think he should be moved up in the order and KJ moved down. Talk about streaky hitter… Tex has to get his rally killer bat moved out of the 4 hole. He is the reason Chipper has only scored 22 runs. 4,5 and 6 are all not really pulling their weight.
By Tami
May 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
R-Brave….thank you for bringing up Tex! I totally agree with you. Move Brian to 4th; Francoeur to 5th; Kotsay to 6th and drop Tex down to 7th, maybe? That might take some of the pressure off Tex until he can fix his swing and still not seem too much of a “demotion”.
By Dan
May 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Kotsay has a been a great addition to the team so far this year. However, it seems to me that the starting pitching needs to be improved now that Smoltz will be returning to the pen. Does anyone have any ideas about which starting pitchers might be avilable in a trade to fill a #2 or #3 position in our rotation?
By Jason Dapice
May 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
I drafted Kotsay in my NL only league and am very Happy. I’m accepting phone calls from any GM in baseball or football who are in need of a talent scout.
By timthebrave
May 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
I have to say that I am more than happy to eat my words. I thought there was no way that he was going to produce the way he has. I knew that he was capable of it but it is REALLY hard to come back like he has after back surgery. I thought he was going to be a stop gap but with the minor leaguer Jordan Schafer testing positive for steroids he is just what the braves needed
By rob
May 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
If the Braves were willing to trade Schafer and a couple young pitching prospects, the Braves should be able to get a solid pitcher from a team out of contention at the all star break.
Trading Schafer is unlikely, so maybe Maddog for cash and some prospects would be a possibility.
By Mercerdad
May 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
If Kotsay settles in around .280 with a dozen homers, stays healthy and plays solid defense what will that do to the Braves’ plans for next year? It’ll be hard to let this guy go, especially if the price is right. We’re probably not going to want a minor leaguer sitting.
By Workinlkeadawg
May 7, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
It just “feels” different this year than in previous seasons.
Injuries have already had an awesome effect on the Braves.
Smoltz going back to the pen, Jurrgen’s need to start and start well a necessity. Diaz platooning with Blanco a need not a nusance.
Reyes hopefully making the starting rotation’s adjustments turn out to be, along with Jurrgens, a true blessing.
Heres to hoping the new look Braves become NL East champs.
By dack jerrick
May 7, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Let me re-phrase that: “Andruw is the best defensive center fielder to ever play the game”.
By Chuck
May 7, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
homeboy upstairs: He’s not even the best CF in the state of California.
Heck, he’s not even the best CF in greater Los Angeles.
That being said, I do hope AJ gets it straightened out. When he was in his prime, he was something to behold.
By OldTimer
May 7, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
I’m not at the point were I would pay money to see the Braves… but… if I was offered free tickets…I might consider it. Still a big but though.
By bf54
May 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
NO. No apology needed. We, as fans are wont to do, tend to be skeptical (in this instance, I wasn’t). The “I told you so“‘s are always out there (“nattering nabobs or negativism”), and, indeed, they DO need to apologize, but the rest of us who understand the game, and consider the past only as prologue, took the appropriate, logical, wait and see attidude, and have been richly rewarded for our patience. NO, NO, NO, apologies needed from the (collective) fan base. We, know the game, and the players, and we (the astute) gave Mr. Kotsay both his due and his oppotunity.
Most of us recogized his potential to help this team. Period. End of story.
By House
May 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this
Buffalo Chip your comment makes no sense. If you don’t like the weather. Just wait a minute.
Just wait a minute.
BRAVES FANS LIKE THIS WEATHER BUDDY!!!!
By scott boras
May 7, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this
braves rock braves rock [braves rock]
By TwoForty
May 8, 2008 2:51 AM | Link to this
Greg Norton is a great addition to the Braves ball club. Nice clutch hit Norton. In 2006 Norton had the most HRs in Majors (17) with less than 300 at bats.
By TwoForty
May 8, 2008 2:51 AM | Link to this
Greg Norton is a great addition to the Braves ball club. Nice clutch hit Norton. In 2006 Norton had the most HRs in Majors (17) with less than 300 at bats.
By BA
May 8, 2008 3:01 AM | Link to this
Chop Chick owes Bobby Cox an apology for that flaming turd attack blog she wrote a few days ago. Geez, this broad is a mouthbreather.
By Yehuda Hamer
May 8, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this
Sometimes I was under the impression that some fans thought that Mark Kotsay will maintain a batting average way over .300 over the course of the season. He has had a couple of good years.
By LivininAL
May 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Kotsay may give the our centerfield prospects plenty of time to mature in the minors, no rush to replace him. After watching a lot of Brave baseball and seeing Boyer stumble at the beginning of the year, I’m beginning to see him as a possible closer, Acosta looks more like an Opener for the other team in the 9th.
By Willie Mays
May 8, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Hello guys,
Have you all had the pleasure to meet my friend Rob….yeah he’s a moron, you’ll have to excuse him.
He actually thought Mantle played right field. Then tried to call me out on it, claiming I was the moron.
Perhaps a little google search before you post to check for accuracy might help, moron.
By curiouser and curiouser
May 8, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Not gonna say “I told you so”, but “I told you so”. ;)
But then, it’s a lot easier to say it when things are turning out well, too. Now if we can just get Tex started from the right-hand side, and if Reyes can maintain the performance he led off with…
By Bill Candler
May 8, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Would-Have/Could-Have/Should-Have…Bite me! There is a game today and how many of you will be playing, that includes ” A” ball. TO THOSE WHO ENJOY THE GAME,KNOW HOW GREAT THESE GUYS ARE,HOW HARD THEY WORK…ENJOY TODAY DUDES+DUDETTS WHERE EVER YOU BE.
By Carole
May 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
I live in the SF Bay area, loved Kotsay on the A’s and love him even more on the Braves. Let’s hope for an A’s vs. Braves World Series, or am I too hopeful?
By by johnny
May 8, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
I never had any complaints about Kotsay. It is just you people think that jones was the greatest. Jones is not on level par with Kotsay. Kotsay is a much better all around ballplayer. Cox should havve benched Jones like Joe is doing. He even sent him to the eye Doctor. Whats that tell you.
By steve
May 8, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Kotsay just looks like he fits in with this team. I think we should keep him around for a while.
By Tim
May 9, 2008 1:55 AM | Link to this
Tex will be fine before it’s all said and done. And we will have $15 million more to spend on him next year after Hampton is gone.
By dorothy davis
May 19, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Please spend the money you save by not paying an injured pitcher (Hampton) on Mark Tex. He is definately worth every penny. The team needs the offense. And Kotsay will be worth paying whatever it takes to keep him too.