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Bullpen misuse means time for Cox to go

It’s time for Bobby Cox to take the walk upstairs to the cushy front- office job that’s waiting for him.

He’s had a Hall of Fame career as a manager, and he’s earned the respect of players and coaches throughout the league, but it’s time for him to turn this Braves team over to someone else.

I’ve questioned his use of the bullpen for years — since he brought Mark Wohlers in too early in Game 4 of the ‘96 World Series, to be exact — but the last straw came when he sent Manny Acosta out there for a third inning in Wednesday’s loss to the Nats.

The Braves got a tremendous effort from Jair Jurrjens, their most consistent starter thus far this year, and they finally pushed another run across to take a 2-1 lead in the 12th. Then Bobby blew the game by trying to squeeze one too many innings out of his young closer-in-the-making. Acosta threw 48 pitches in two-plus innings, which is how you lose games — and how you destroy a reliever’s elbow.

They’re 0-9 in one-run losses now, giving a whole new meaning to the word “frustrating,” and while the lack of clutch hitting certainly hasn’t helped, a big part of the blame lies squarely with Bobby Cox and the way he handles his pitchers.

So that’s it. I respect Bobby Cox and appreciate everything he’s done, but he needs to realize that it’s time to hang ‘em up.

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By richbrave

April 30, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

CHOP CHICK:

It was obvious ACOSTA was gassed after two. And when he started throwing balls instead of strikes in his third inning, he should have been lifted. You can pin this on COX, but to be fair, Bobby had no way of knowing how long the game would last. ACOSTA had been effective up to that point(see ROYCE RING - plunk, et.al.). Go with what works until it doesn’t. Bobby’s big on brinksmanship and the other teams see the same old modus operandi and call his bluff. And that’s killing the Braves. He needs to change his end of game tactics, and realize that Mike Remlinger is gone and there’s no one like him around.

By Cooper

April 30, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

I give you credit. You are probably the first AJC writer to ever say this and so pointedly.

2008 is turning out to be a mess and unfortunately when things don’t go as planned BC tends to over and under manage at exactly the wrong time.

This seasons train wreck is not entirely his fault but his late game tactics have consistently yielded poor results.

Injuries and poor mgt is a bad combination.

By Gary

April 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Yeah like the two HUGE defensive miscues in the 12th were Bobby’s fault. Who else was going to close out the game Chris Resop, Will Ohman? Give me a break, Bobby did the right thing. The defense just didnt pan out in the 12th. I love how people get all pessimistic after 27 games with 135 games left to go. Give this team 50-55 games before you say they can’t do it.

By Chick Tanner where are YOU?

April 30, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t give the NOSE-PICKER even that much credit. ONE WORLD SERIES with that talent?

By Aks

April 30, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

I agree Bobby Cox sometimes boils my blood on obvious plays. First of all he shouldn’t take Tex out to put Prado in first base. If it was Tex in first base, it would have been double play ball by W. Harris. Secondly, he left Acosta too long and shouldn’t have let him bat runners on scoring position. Kelly or C. Miller should PH for Acosta in 12th inning.

I should also blame our offense for doing nothing against low profile pitcher. Everyone should kiss their honey by 11pm and get their a* up early to park for scouting reports/video on pitcher and focus on batting practice. Meantime loose up all the rusty muscles and joints. STOP blaming to pitchers and injuries. Its time to get real and start scoring some runs.

By Bobby OVERMANAGED AGAIN!

April 30, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Gary, Bobby DID have have Tex NOT at first, and it was HIS pitcher STILL in the game - those are your TWO ERRORS on BOBBY!

By Melvin Flowers

April 30, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Its Time For Bobby To Hang It Up We Need Young More Active Coach To Get On The Braves A*, And Would Make Them Earn The Money They Get Paid. It No Excuse For Not Hiting.

Macon Georgia

By steve in marietta

April 30, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

I didn’t see the game, but have heard all the whiners for years about Bobby. Most Atlantans don’t appreciate his work- - He is a Hall of Famer-period. I always found it lame when talkshow hosts who never went inside the clubhouse sought his firing in years past. Now someone known as “Chop Chick”, who is anonymous and won’t even show her whole face on her blog says its time to go! Pretty courageous wouldn’t you say?

By Curt

April 30, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

It’s taken this long for someone to have the guts to suggest that Bobby Cox should be removed from the dugout? He should have been fired in 1998 when one of the greatest teams he had lost to the Padres. He has gotten nothing out of something for a long time and now that the Braves aren’t even making the playoffs explain to me how he is doing anything to merit keeping the job?

Winning on the road, winning close games, these are things that a manager is supposed to pull out of his teams. Over the past three years, the Braves have not won on the road, have not won close games, have not had sustained winning streaks of any consistency. And watch as the team has another June collapse this year and ends up scuttling around .500 come the end of the year. All these games against these bad teams, we are going to need wins down the road in a projected tight division race and yet we are losing them. To the Nats. Night in and night out. It’s uninspired baseball.

And please let me hear one more time about how Cox doesn’t pitch and doesn’t hit and doesn’t field. He manages and anyone who has even played little league knows that you feed off of your manager and it’s clear that this team is getting nothing out of their boss. This team isn’t making the playoffs and at the end of the year all the excuses will cascade down from on high - most likely injuries this year - yet the one constant from this whole run, Cox, will skate once again.

By ben

April 30, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Bobby’s teams have even done well in close games because they were never fundamentally sound. Unable to run bases, squeeze plays botched, errors at key times, and other miscues. I remember the ole Lonnie Smith base running problem in the Minnosota series. Yea, Cox has had his time but it’s time to pass it over to someone else and move upstairs.

By mo

April 30, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Trade Tex and Hudson and that will force Cox to leave. REBUILD!!!!

By steve in marietta

April 30, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Curt, if someone has “the guts to say it,” as you put it,then what’s their real name and what do they look like?

By Farnsworth Dibblemeyer, Braves Fan

April 30, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

It took Chop Chick to come forward with a critical comment on these Braves. Waiting for the beat writer would never do. Let’s promote Chop Chick and let her ask Cox and Wren and Hoss a few tough questions - like why keep Chipper in the lineup when he won’t run hard to first base? This team lacks emotion and plays a flawed game and the manager has burned the pen yet again. Chop Chick for beat writer!

By Da Mick

April 30, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

I agree with Cooper on two counts: his comments about injuries and bad management, and his compliment about your straight talk Chop Chick.

CC I’ve felt the same as you about Mr. Cox’s mismanagement of the bullpen for years. For all you that would defend our manager, no one is disrespecting him. But over time, it’s hard to argue that the criticisms aren’t fair; they’ve just begun to become more and more obvious already this season. It’s early, but this team needs some strategic managerial help, not more of “stay the course.” It’s a shame because we had the opportunity for history to repeat itself, if we could have had Joe Torre come in and replace Bobby. That would have been something — and a team more worthy of Joe Torre’s skills as a manager.

By WILL

April 30, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

CHOPCHICK YOU BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU SAY BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK COX IS A GOD THEY MIGHT FIRE YOU I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO FIRE YOU ,YOUR COMMENTS MAKE ME WONDER WHAT YOU ARE REALLY THINKING

By doobird

April 30, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

I have been saying this same thing for eight years now … the man is not a good manager … too many stupid moves that always backfire in his face and he never learns by it! Why in the hell did Tex need a pinch runner? That blunder cost them this game. Also as I have preached before, his choice of assistants suck … time to clean house.

By Farnsworth Dibblemeyer, Braves Fan

April 30, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick, are you a real journalist? Do you work in the sports department? Can you replace the company guy that’s there now? In any other town in the league the beat writer would be asking tough questions.

By cjdawg

April 30, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Jesus CHrist…all you naysayers must be Tech fans. Cox took a team and turned them around. The game has not changed. He is juggling a makeshift bullpen and fielders with holes in the glove. But he is steady and consistent. Grow up you buncha whiners. The Braves will shake free of this losing and those one run games always equal out.

By RAD

April 30, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick - what are you 12? This is April - well the end of April. Did Bobby lose the other 14 games - you Miss are a moron - which pains me cause I thought you might be hot but you now have shown you have no idea what baseball is all about. Bobby Cox is your Daddy. He knows more about baseball then you know about keys on the keyboard. SHAME - SHAME ON YOU. Damn I thought we had something but you are nothing more then another Terence - just penning for a reaction… Stupid Beee aaaccch. Real fans will remmeber this 3 months from now when you try to act like you never wrote it. Lame. Blow your nose, it must be the pollen, cause you don’t look blonde….

By Ken

April 30, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

It was a great game until the end. Blame Bobby? Maybe, but he isn’t pitching, batting or fielding. He’s only human and he will make mistakes, he’s only human.

By tbo

April 30, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Someone with AJC finally has the guts to call it like it is with the old fool BC. He has been mismanaging this team for 10 years now. He has to go somewhere else.

By doobird

April 30, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Ever wonder why Frank Wren got promoted? Because the previous GM saw the writing on the wall and didn’t want to have to fire Bobby Cox, so he stepped aside to let Wren do the work he knew has to be done because Cox will NOT retire on his own … he still thinks he’s a genius in his own mind! This man does not know how to use his team!!!

By gotigers72

April 30, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

I couldn’t believe he let Acosta hit for himself with 2 runners on and a chance to expand the lead. Then Acosta goes out and loses the game. Yeah, there was some bad defense, but the ball Harris hit was a rocket, and Acosta killed himself by throwing too many balls, not enough strikes.

By tbo

April 30, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

tbo is a 8 H O M O

By Curt

April 30, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Steve in Marietta.

Tell us all about those times YOU have been in the locker room hearing the inspired words from the Hall of Famer Bobby Cox. I bet this woman has a lot more access than you will ever have. I’m sorry that you are so willing to accept mediocrity. There is no excuse for the lack of championships that this team has won over their run. You clearly know nothing about baseball and the importance leadership for that matter.

By tbo

April 30, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

tbo is a H O M O

By tbo

April 30, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Curt you really wish you were in the locker room - don’t you?? Have you ever listen to any player that has ever played for Bobby Cox? You sir are the one who knows nothing about baseball. We all know you are a Yankee from Chicago… Take that L from your forehead.

By Kentavo

April 30, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Hopefully this is Cox’s last year - enough is enough. I don’t want to hear the apologists -Cox was a great part of the last two decades’ success, but he’s also a big reason why the team doesn’t have more than 1 WS title and why they’ve not made the playoffs the last two years. He simply gives games away like he did today.

By jcmo71

April 30, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick….hmmmmm Chop ‘Chick’…. Chick your an example why women have no place in the big 4 (base/foot/basket/hockey). You’ve never participated and you don’t understand what you’re watching therefore you make an outlandish proclamation worthy of your 2 o’clock Soap Opera in an effort to make yourself/blog relevant. Good luck in your next job.

By RAD

April 30, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

jcmo71 Please post that again - NUFF SAID

By Conscience

April 30, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

It sounds like even the Braves beat writers have had it with the fragile little left hander from near Inverness,Florida.

I want you guys—and girls—to search your memories, access your computers and question older relatives as to whether there has EVER been an athlete in the HISTORY of SPORTS who has parlayed a period of inactivity into more money. Hell, has there ever been anybody PERIOD besides Paris Hilton who has welched more money in the history of mankind.

If this individual had a conscience he would appear on Atlanta TV and say—‘I wish to apologize to the Atlanta Braves Organization and the fans of the Braves. It was not my intention to make over 40 million dollars for sitting on my dead bottom for 3 years. The Players Association will not allow me to waive the money due in the contract but in good conscience and since I’m making more than all the cancer research specialists in America, I wish it known that I’m donating half of my salary to worthy causes in the Atlanta area. I will still have more money than 3 generations going forward of my family will need so I consider that a worthy statement. Thank You”.

Think it’s happening??

By froggy

April 30, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

One can have a boatload of respect for Cox and what he’s accomplished but still recognize the team is playing fundamentally bad baseball right now. And that’s ultimately Bobby’s responsibility, pure and simple. Yes, taking out Tex was a boneheaded move, especially replacing him with a guy that has barely played the position at the MLB level — you cannot rationalize that decision and it may have cost them the game. But take a look at Frenchy’s at-bat in the 12th, which we all forget because Kotsay followed with a clutch two out hit to score the run. Jeff takes two balls inside, he’s 2-0 in a great position with only one out, then swings at a terrible breaking ball off the plate to go 2-1, then swings at a ball a foot off the plate to weekly tap for an out. How can that possibly happen? And he’s a budding superstar? Does “Mr. Positive” Cox pull him aside and give him an ear full? A batter on my Pony league team would get chewed out for that. Only one example of the malaise evident in this team. As even a homer like Gant said tonight after the game, it is not bad luck, it’s just fundamentally bad baseball. And unlikely to get better soon. Bobby’s not going anywhere. But a little more fire and a little less Attaboy might be what this team could use right now.

By Brave LRV

April 30, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

Conscience you must be talking about Hampton - He does not - will not- ever pitch again. He needs mental health nothing else. He does not want to pitch and never will again. The only positive is we never paid most of the contract. Mike would fake a hang nail in a game of pool - thata how f’ed he is now. The sad part is he thinks we all don’t see it….

By Uncle Dave

April 30, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

Chop chick: You are a moronic reactionary grabbing at the lunatic fringe in order to bolster your pathetic excuse for an audience. this is the only time I will ever respond to you or bother to check out your blog again. Nobody who knows anything about baseball shares your opinion of Bobby Cox. It reminds me of the scene in city Slickers when Jack Palance first meets billy Crystal and Crystal gives him some smart remark. Palance responds with ” I sh** bigger than you.” Crystal realizes he is way out of his league… sort of like you telling us when Bobby should move on. How does a moron like yourself get control of a blog? Oh well. I will not be back.

By the editor

April 30, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

hey chop chick, this is what your blog should read: It’s time for “chop chick” to take the walk “outside” to the cushy front- counter job that’s waiting for her at mcdonalds.

“she’s” had a Hall of “shame” career as a “blogger”, and she’s earned no respect from the “readers” and “posters” throughout “this blog”, but it’s time for “her” to turn this Braves “blog” over to someone else.

I’ve questioned her use of “intellegence” for “days” — since “she brought up “the notion of cox stepping down” to be exact — but the last straw came “tonight”.

So that’s it. I respect “her opinion” and appreciate everything she’s done, but “she” needs to realize that it’s time to hang it up, and start taking orders down at mickey d’s, a job that she is qualified for.

By RAD

April 30, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

prattvillenolzfan - Your are right I am a A55 whatever that is - but you have never played baseball in your life (before age 10 does not count.) We all hear your Mom calling for you to get off the computer and go to bed - so listen to the little lady. Because the post you just wrote shows that you too have a Va jay jay.. Go to bed STOOPID.

By sansho1

April 30, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

I’ll think you’ll find out soon that Acosta is being groomed as a starter once Smoltz makes his transition to reliever. He hadn’t pitched in five days, which is normal rest for a starter, and he needs to acclimate to his new role. It didn’t work out, but that happens.

OK, back to the rants.

By FSU ha ha ha

April 30, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

OH YEAH - Florida State sux always has always will - “go FSU criminals” - With all this parole shizaout we can’t recruit likes we used tooo..

By prattvillenolzfan

May 1, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

Hey RAD

The only point I was trying to make about Chop Chick is that don’t dismiss her just because she’s a woman…

If you read this blog, and DOB’s blog, you will see that many fans are starting to question the decisions Cox makes during the game.

Yes Cox has done alot for the Braves, we are all grateful to him for that, but his decisions and management of the team is leaving alot to be desired. Even GANT said so much after the game, that the Braves are a very fundamentally unsound team right now…That comes from coaching.

BTW Unless you played at a higher level than Double A, don’t dismiss my baseball knowledge….

I’m not saying that Cox needs to go just yet, but if he keeps making bonehead plays like today, then he will…..Once again, I commend Chop Chick for at least getting this argument out in the open….Something no other beat writer will do…

By Calvin

May 1, 2008 12:04 AM | Link to this

I totally agree with Chopchick. I wish he would bow out gracefully. He won a lot of division championships, several National League championships, and only one world series with many times having the best talent in baseball. In other words, it didn’t take a lot of managing sometimes to do that. Now, with less experience but great potential talent, where it takes some managing, he is coming up short.

By Mack_the_Knife

May 1, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

If the Braves had a real manager the past 16 years they’d have 5 or 6 World Series rings.

As it is, they have one. Cox has never been a great manager, merely a good one on a team that has been overloaded with talent.

By roja

May 1, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this

The Braves are “old”? They have 31 men on the 40 man roster that are 30 or UNDER. The Mets have 23 that are 30 or younger. You obviously know SQUAT about the Braves you Mets schill!!!!

By wilson

May 1, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this

I thought the same thing at the time. Why would you allow Accosta to hit with a runner in scoring position after throwing to sub-par innings? It would be excusable if there was absolutley nothing brewing, but they had a chance to score another run. I knew it was going to happen. Yes, Will Ohman or Resop would have been a gamble. But so was Boyer for one, and Accosta for two. I don’t know if it means Cox needs to hang em up. But it was a dumb move, that is for sure. It also said something for how much confidence he has in those guys left in the bullpen: We prefer to have Accosta hit, and pitch three innings in relief than to have a Lillebridge hit and bring in a fresh arm. What? It was dumb. That is for sure. It isnt this though that will be the destructive factor for the 08 Braves, but rather the fact that our whole team is on the DL, and we cant hit. WTF?!

By Robert

May 1, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

I told you so. Donkey in the duggout. RAD where did you play ..in the back yard?

By Bowie

May 1, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Thanks Chop Chick for telling it like it is. DOB and Bowman don’t question Cox for fear he will kick them out of clubhouse etc. Yes Men in order to get the inside news. Thanks again for great job.

By carl

May 1, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

I agree with Chop Chick;

We must be thankful to Bobby Cox for his years of good work here, but a change is needed (the sooner the better).

And to all of you who say “oh it’s april, we’re just getting started”; don’t you remember saying that for the past 3 years? If things keep going the way they are, they’ll end up with a .500 record, same as the couple of years prior. What makes y’all think that things will magically get better after april?….

By Jeff C

May 1, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

The Chop Chick has got it right dead on! Ever since Game 4 of the ‘96 Series when he had Wholers throw nothing but sliders instead of fastballs to Jim Leyritz it has been all downhill for the Braves and especially the bullpen. Now I respect all that Bobby Cox has done for the Braves, but it is time for someone else to take over.

By Dave in Arizona

May 1, 2008 3:33 AM | Link to this

I agree with Jeff C on Booby bringing in Wholers to throw golfshots to Leyritz. The Braves have been a joke ever since. People laugh at them. All those division titles for nothing. It’s like celebrating finishing third at the Master’s every year. But the Braves would still make a big deal out of receiving a souvenir tee shirt and not the green jacket. That’s what losers do.

Booby has always been a crappy manager, but it never used to show up until post season. Now he loses to the garbage heap teams with his stupid moves.

He was a solid gm. As manager, he’s always left a lot to be desired. Way to say it, Chop Chick. We might actually win a few games if we had a real manager.

By Getreal

May 1, 2008 7:07 AM | Link to this

This team stinks! Blow it up!!! No Bullpen! No fundamentals Defense is terrible!!! No clutch hitter(This means you McCann, Frenchy!)

By raymond

May 1, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

The Braves need to stop living on yesterdays accomplishments. They need to start all over for 08 and the future. Instead of trying to resign Tex, trade him for some young pitching talent, and do not resign Glavine, Hampton, or Smoltz. This team and organization is a shadow of their past and need to move on. We can’t compete with this team.

By ManOfTeal

May 1, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

You are just now saying that Cox needs to go? Wow, you Braves fans are as thick as mud. He should have been gone after the team choked, something the people in Atlanta should be all too familiar with, during the 1996 World Series.

Cox is old, it is way past time to hang up the towel.

Go Marlins!!!!

By Elmer

May 1, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Yes, Cox wears out relievers; look at Rocker, Remlinger or Wholers

By Kirkland

May 1, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

I will be so glad when Hampton is no longer a Brave. This guy is more fragile than my 90 year old Grandma. The only muscle he has not pulled or tore is his a* muscle, because he’s rested it on the bench for the last 3 years. The worst part of it is that he will sign with someone next year and win 15 games. He has been the biggest bust in Brave history.

By Nodoginhunt

May 1, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

YES!

By BigDaddy

May 1, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Well, Chop Chick. It didn’t take long for you to prove you don’t have a clue. Bobby has earned the right to stay for as long as he desires. It’s not his fault this team lacks heart. That is on the players!

By MarkyMark

May 1, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

You shut your dirty mouth. Bobby can stay as long as he wants!

By jerry

May 1, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Mr. Diaz: Do you think it would be possible to concentrate a little harder when you are hitting? If this is not possible you might want to try a longer bat.

By charlsj

May 1, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

BC is not the problem. The Braves have a large amount of injuries and the players are pressing to much in the late innings. Look at Francour’s last AB. 2-0 count and he comes out of his shoes swinging at ball 3. I could understand if the ball had been close or a lot of break. It didn’t! It started off the plate and went further off. The team needs to relax and get out of the mentality that “I have to do it” This is a team game and after all our struggles and injuries this month, we are still only 3 games out.

By leifj

May 1, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Why in god’s name did Cox put Prado at first base? That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. That double play plus the second double play that Acosta screwed up. This team is pretty much done so I think Bobby should move out of the dugout and go to his farm. He has had a great career but having only one title with the talent he has had over the years does say something.

By varoadrunner

May 1, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

WTG Chop Chick

My post yesterday said the same thing. He’s been great in the past - but no longer. He is “losing” too many games for us now. Time to step down or up as you put it.

Some other thoughts - platoon Diaz in left - SAve Smoltzie’s arm and improve the team by sending him to the closer’s role - I love the headline that says he wants to keep him in the starting rotation, but who wouldn’t 0

By varoadrunner

May 1, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

WTG Chop Chick

My post yesterday said the same thing. He’s been great in the past - but no longer. He is “losing” too many games for us now. Time to step down or up as you put it.

Some other thoughts - platoon Diaz in left - SAve Smoltzie’s arm and improve the team by sending him to the closer’s role - I love the headline that says he wants to keep him in the starting rotation, but who wouldn’t

By Nodoginhunt

May 1, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

All you Bobby lovers are a sad lot! It is not as if folks are advocating throwing him out in the street. It is PAST time for new leadership/management. We are not talking about a family pet here folks. This is a business…about winning. And Bobby isn’t…and hasn’t provided that in the last several years.

Your willingness to nostalgically settle for “BOBBY” is indicative of what is lacking in Atlanta sports fans (I am one,so I can say this)…sentimentality vs. reality, and the reality is the Braves are no longer competitors in the NL. If you are OK with the way the team has performed in the last several years wth BOBBY at the helm, then it brings YOUR sports judgement into the question as well. If BOBBY were the head of a company that had these results over the last three or four years, the Board of Directors would have replaced him long ago.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Cox has simply taken his stupid managerial decisions that were relagated to the post-season and begun implementing them during the regular season.

Why do we have a pitching coach? He makes no decisions. Why do we have left-hand relief pitchers since Cox believes they can only pitch to one batter. If a left-hand reliever can’t get a right-hand batter out, what is he doing in the majors?

Does Bobby only use his left-hand index finger to pick the boogers out of the right nostril and vice versa?

Snitcker for Manager - please no Pendleton!

By bob terwilliger

May 1, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

It’s not Cox’s fault his team ruined two chances to turn a double play in the 12th. Accosta was fine pitching, it was the defense. Based on this column, I’d say its time for you to hang it up.

By bobby

May 1, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Chop Chick, you are exactly right. Any manager that would call for the squeeze play from a pitcher that cannot bunt is missing something. (By the way, none of the pitchers can bunt.) Some one needs to stress fundamentals to this team. Hitting and fielding.

By SLICK

May 1, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

THEY SAY ALL GOOD THINGS HAVE TO COME TO AN END. YES IT IS TIME FOR BOBBY TO MOVE TO THE FRONT OFFICE AND GIVE SOME ONE ELSE A CHANCE IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE TEAM

By Jim

May 1, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

YES! I’ve said for years that Cox has done less with more than any manager in baseball. Braves could have won 4 WS titles in the 90’s with a decent manager. Cox has zero creativity when it comes to what players to play. He uses the same lineup- regardless of any struggles- and goes with the same relief order every game. I could go through ALL of his postseason GUFFAWS but I’ll spare you the frustration. It’s not monday morning quarterbacking either as I was SCREAMING at the tv most of the time lamenting the moves he made that cost us titles. It was time for him to go after getting swept by the Yankees in 99’. AOL is almost as pathetic as the Spririt Group. Maybe Liberty will show some backbone and tell Cox he is retiring.

By Terry

May 1, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

The braves are a 500 team and have been for a few years now. We like to believe the braves have superior talent and coaching, we haven’t seen the result in some time. If we want different results, something needs to change. I think it is time for Bobby to move on.

By BlueMoon

May 1, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Wow, it’s sad to see people that know nothing about baseball get on here and clamor for a hall of fame manager to step down. Bunch of spoiled, sorry babies. You have no idea what you had in all the years of winning. Bobby didn’t cut the payroll which limited our pitching staff. Who could have won the last couple of years with the staff we had? NO ONE. Sounds like a bunch of Obama slogans on here. CHANGE!! You have no idea what kind of change, but one day you’ll get it and you won’t like it.

And another thing, I pitched professionally…48 pitches will not blow your arm out. Do you even know how much they throw on the off days? Of course you don’t. Education rids ignorance. Try it sometime.

By Will

May 1, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Right on! I am glad to see a writer admit what many of us fans have seen for years! I have been getting blown crap for a couple years on here for saying Cox needs to be relieved of his duties. At this point any person who truly believes Bobby Cox should still be managing the Braves is a total idiot.

By Darwin Walls

May 1, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Yes it past time for him to go and send John Schuerholz as well as Frank Wren with him, who never should have been hired because he’s a Schuerholz clone. We need some new thinking in management.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Does Bobby only use his left-hand index finger to pick the boogers out of the right nostril and vice versa?

Look in the dictionary under choke you’ll find the Braves team picture & under wuss you’ll find Hampton’s picture.

By Turnin2

May 1, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

I admire Bobby Cox, he’s a wonderful baseball personality - and he has to be admired for the loyalty he inspires in his players - but CC you’re correct… one has to wonder about all the “ifs” in the losses we’ve seen (and not only this early in the season, but past seasons). I’ve never understood his use of not only the bullpen but his bench players. Drives me nuts…

I understand he cannot execute for the players - nor some of the injuries (I say some only because injuries can be attributed to misuse and over use) but he has the ultimate responsibility of putting players in those positions (Prado for Tex last night for example) and ultimately, he and Frank Wren should be held accountable to make the right choices. Totally agree the man deserves some spot in the organization and probably should’ve been Bobby instead of Frank Wren sitting up there this year…

By J.D.

May 1, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

you are an absoloute moron for saying that. he is one of the best managers to ever manage in this game. one bullpen move in an april 30th game doesnt mean he should lose his job. you give two examples…wohlers in 96 and acotsta today? real good evidence. i dont even know why you write on here or how you got this job but you clearly know very little about baseball

By bp101

May 1, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

I have been saying this for years…his mismanagement of the postseason and his ability to blow out his bullpen. He uses the same relievers every night…by the time july gets here they have pitched way too many innings and are pretty much inneffective. Would love to see Terry Pendleton get a shot.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

BlueMoon,

You pitched professionally - oh well then you certainly are an expert. Please share more from your vast knowlege to all us ignorant idiots.

Can you answer this question -

Does Bobby only use his left-hand index finger to pick the boogers out of the right nostril and vice versa?

By Bill in VA

May 1, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Nodoginhunt, 8:42 am, says it all. Time for a change. No disrespect, but all good things must come to an end.

By bp101

May 1, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

I have been saying this for years…his mismanagement of the postseason and his ability to blow out his bullpen. He uses the same relievers every night…by the time july gets here they have pitched way too many innings and are pretty much inneffective. Would love to see Terry Pendleton get a shot.

By bravedawg

May 1, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

So much for loyalty! Who are you anyway chop chick?? Were you some hall of fame manager back in the day that no one knows about so you just spit out all your expertise? Why is everyone trying to pin the braves woes on someone. Plain and simple every facet of this team is responsible, poor hitting, poor pitching, lack of enthusiasm, and the worst injury bug in years (Chop chick probably wants them to fire Jeff Porter for all the injuries) everyone from Frank Wren to the ball boy could earn the blame. But you throw Cox’s name out there just to get a few more people who aren’t experts to take jabs at him and make your blog look good. It’s only May 1 and we are still in the hunt. I would agree a frustrating April, but can we show a little patience. We still have five months left to play and as DOB who actually has something to say from time to time, wrote recently the braves have won their division several times before with an April just like 2008. Everyone frigging chill out and support your team, its fans like the ones on this blog why Atlanta is always talked about having the most fair weathered fans. Go BRAVES! Viva Bobby Cox!!!! Bobby don’t go anywhere, retire when your damn good and ready, until then let’s get this thing rolling!!

By Carroll

May 1, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

As long as we’re re-living some of Booby’s famous bullpen miscues, here’s another that jumps to mind:

Game 5, 1999 NLCS: Braves up 3 games to 1 needing one more win for the WS. In like the 997th inning, they finally push the go-ahead run across at Shea. Then, with the title hanging in the balance, Bobby inexplicably sends rookie Kevin McGlinchy back out there for a 3rd inning to blow the game.

Afterward, Bobby actually acted as if it was his plan all along to lose that game…even though we had a dominant Millwood and Glav both rested and could have come in for one inning and pushed us to WS glory. But he didn’t want to take a chance on them getting hurt in one inning of work…what?!?! Instead, we had to go back to Atlanta, waste our best starter Millwood, and Smoltz in relief, we experienced another emotionally draining extra innings affair, and went into the WS with NOTHING left.

And you folks think it’s just a fluke or coincidence or bad luck that we didn’t get any more out of the best collection of talent maybe ever in the MLB?

By varoadrunner

May 1, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Bluemoon Apparently you pitched for the Spokane Spikes - Your ignorance seems to cloud your judgement. Three innings and 48 pitches pushes a relief pitcher beyond his normal muscle memory limits. Of course 48 pitches alone will not blow out your arm, but it surely affects your control. How many walks did he have before entering the third inning of work? THREE and then what happened? You answere and then go sit in a corner with your dunce cap on.

Take your ignorance to the Mets blogs - they need some help with their ignorant blogging. I would like to read posts from people who have a clue of what they’re talknig about - clearly you have no clue. STILL LAUGHING ABOUT THE “pitched professionally HAHAHAHAHAHA BTW, in retrospect, thanks for the early morning laugh.

By LivininAL

May 1, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

I do think Bobby has be comes so predictable, almost no little ball so when they do try it gets screwed up ..Washington knew the Braves were gonna try to squeeze before the Braves did. Why did Pat Corralas leave Atlanta anyway?

By OldBravesBag

May 1, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Boy…how easy was that for someone to throw Chop Chick under the bus because she is a woman? Way to go…

Tons of men question Bobby’s decisions…but since Chop Chick is a woman, and has never played baseball..she doesn’t know anything. Guess what???…Most men never get out of Little League….so much for their vastly superior knowledge…LOL

By kevin

May 1, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

You don’t leave a bullpen pitcher in to face a batter twice. What about letting him bat? I think the braves need new blood at the top, someone who can light a fire under the young players butts. Chipper is not that type of leader, there really is no one else since Renteria is gone. If Cox stays please get rid of Pendelton!!!!!!!!

By Weldon

May 1, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

I agree with the thought of him moving. I think that it is long overdue, though. I realize that he is considered a “players” manager, but I believe that he goes too far in that regard.

By LivininAL

May 1, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

When any player appears to not be producing people consider a move t improve. I think Chop Chick has avery right to consider a move too. At least it hss created a bit of ethusiasm in the blog…More than I have seen on the field this year!

By Jeff321

May 1, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

“Yeah like the two HUGE defensive miscues in the 12th were Bobby’s fault. “

Ummmm, YEAH! Don’t you remember that play Prado missed which set everything up? Oh right, wasn’t that the almighty Bobby Cox that chose to PR for Tex?

I commend Chop Chick for her bravery in telling the truth.. With that said, of course Bobby’s done good work with the Braves. However, I’d be willing to bet, the BAD outweighs the GOOD tenfold. Do the math you apologists.

By monty

May 1, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

What a stinking mess! THis team events ways to lose a game! I know Bobby can’t push a magic button and make players hit with runners in scoring position or make routine plays, but he should receive due criticism about his use of Acosta.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

BlueMoon

Does Bobby only use his left-hand index finger to pick the boogers out of the right nostril and vice versa?

By James

May 1, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

I live in the DC area and I am a Nationals fan, but what was up yesterday when Atlanta relievers Boyer and Ring came in and, it appeared, deliberately threw it and hit Zimmerman and Nick Johnson in the 9th inning? Yes, Zimmerman and Johnson had homered the night before, but was it so important to get even that the two relievers placed the game in jeopardy from Atlanta’s viewpoint? If that’s the kind of mentality Atlanta has in its bullpen, then I agree, Cox and his bullpen coach need to go. BTW, throwing at the opposing team on the road doesn’t work, it only makes the home team and the crowd angrier. The Nats won 3-2 and deserved the win given the bushleague pitching tactics of the Atlanta bullpen.

By Justin

May 1, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

You are a worthless pos chopchick. This blog is not needed. I think its time for you to get fired from ajc for writing about s** you dont even know about. Yea lets get rid of the greatest manager in baseball, you see where that got the Yankees. Just one game and Bobby needs to get fired because our pro players cant catch a double play line drive or a groundball bunt. These people are getting paid millions. If you want to blame the game on anyone blame it on those two plays. It does not matter if someone has never played those positions before, if you are in the majors you should be able to catch a line drive and a soft grounder. When the braves get on a hot streak and when have gonzalez, soriano, and smoltz in the 7th 8th and 9th, then everyone is going to go back to the “braves are going to win the world series” instead of dissing them for one mf game.

By Workinlkeadawg

May 1, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

This is not the Braves of the ‘90’s. I dont know if TP is ready, but something has to change. You can’t lay all the injuries on Cox. You can’t fire the bullpen. Smoltz going to the BP will help. Soriano and Gonzales might not be back in time to save the season.

By Grits

May 1, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

This is only May - given a chance! Bobby Cox is a very capable manager and will be for many years to come!

By TheCutMan

May 1, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

To me, the baseball season is just too dad-gumed LONG! A team like the Braves can be in a funk for several games but still have several months to right the ship.

In other words, there’s no sense of urgency when a team tailspins, particularly early in the season, so the status quo remains intact as the GM and others wait for the slow turnaround.

But, what if the tailspin continues? At what point does even the 162 game schedule not protect a failed team or manager? When is it? When is this crossover point?

Whenever it is, IF it is, would be the time to assess the competence of the manager and make corrective action or so it seems to me.

By UNRAD

May 1, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Bobby’s a switch-hitter when it comes to nose picking. I’m thankful for Chop Chick being the first writer to have enough balls to say Cox needs to go. Really, Cox rode Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavines’ coattails for 14 years. His teams have never been disciplined at the plate and this one is not very good fundamentally—hence the 0-10 record in one-run games. If they were losing games 8-7 or 7-6, you could pin it on the pitching, but most of these close games are under five runs each, which shows that the offense and defense is poor. I blame Cox for the lack of discipline at the plate, cause it’s been the same regardless of the batting coach.

And Rad, you’re an idiot. Nuff said.

By Cobby Box

May 1, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Time for Chop Chick to go. You and your stupid blog.

By Ramblin Wrecker

May 1, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

CHOP CHICK,

If this scenario had happened in the 7-8-9 innings I would wholeheartedly agree that Cox was to blame. But “CONTEXT” is always key. If you look at the Braves roster they have exactly 3 starters on the roster as of yesterday. One of those guys is coming off a hamstring injury and another one has exited two of his last three starts very early. THE BULLPEN IS TAXED!!!! NONE OF THAT IS BOBBY COX’S FAULT!!!! So excuse him for trying to leave some in the tank by trying to stay with Acosta, because based on how this season has gone so far, today is likely to be a one run game too and he’ll likely need several relievers again.

If you feel the need to blame Cox for some postseason move gone wrong, fine. But last night was not a postseason game and last time I checked Cox isn’t swinging the bat or throwing balls. The players are not performing in the clutch. And part of that comes from the revolving door on the lineup and rotation due to injuries.

By suenah

May 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

You blame Bobby Cox, because our hitters can not hit??? maybe you need to go!!!!!!!!

By justin

May 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Chop Chick you know nothing about Baseball. Who else was he going to turn too after Acosta? It was a save situation at that point and Acosta is the closer.

Also for a guy who is so talented why did it take him till he was 27 to make it to the majors? Frankly I don’t see where people think Acosta will be a big time closer down the road.

Bobby Cox is today still the best manager in baseball. The problem with the Braves is not his use of the pen, but the inability of the braves hitters to do anything. McCann has reallly regressed this season, and the only positive in teh batters box has been Chipper. Yunell is turning into a regular Frenchy, and Kelly seems to never be able to produce when we need him too. If you want to put blame on somebody for yesterdays lose it’s the hitters. If they would have executed the game wouldn’t have even gone into extra innings, there by rendering your argument useless. Oh and that includes Jurrjens and his inability to lay down a bunt in a crucial situation.

By Big Trouble

May 1, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Depends…

If you want a manager who can consistantly place his team in playoff position, over the course of 162 games, Cox is still great.

If you want an manager who can win best 3 of 5, or best 4 of 7 in a playoff series, Cox should of been fired MANY years ago.

By Bobby Jr.

May 1, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

I have watched the braves since the early 80’s. Bobby Cox is not a situational manager, plain and simple. It would be interesting to see what Cox’s record in extra inning games during his time with the braves. Cox has no clue when it comes to player substitutions and how to handle a bullpen. The players like him because he has few demands( being on time, dress appropriately, and don’t disrespect the organization)and he never talks negatively about them in public. I believe Cox is a good manager over a long season, but not in short do or die series or extra inning games.

By NO WAY

May 1, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox should stay! Maybe it’s time for Chop Chick to go!!!

By GT

May 1, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

ChopChick: thank you for raising this question. It should be the media’s job to put pressure and ask the difficult questions of those they cover. It speaks poorly, in my opinion, that you have more balls than the AJCs beat reporter.

The answer to your question - should Cox retire: Yes. But that is only the beginning. This organization needs to take a look at a lot of things. We need to review our scouting - why have the Braves not been able to develop top tier starting pitching in the last decade? This paper’s interview with Jurjjens last week revealed that a Braves scout met with him as a teenager, but passed at the opportunity to sign him then. Granted, this is one example, but why have the Braves not been developing #1 caliber starters within the organization? Why is there not more attention paid to scouting Japanese pitchers? 2nd - discipline at the plate. Or I should say, the lack of it. Why is pitch recognition not instilled in hitters as they come through the farm system? Francouer has become the poster boy for a pitchers best friend. His first full season in ATL was horrendous when it came to plate discipline. He improved last year - to which I gave him credit - but it appears he is reverting to old habits this season. Don’t focus on bulking up over the offseason, focus on making contact. 3rd - manufacturing runs. No one on this team bunts, the Braves are usually near the bottom in stolen bases, and there are far too many unproductive outs made (see plate discipline above). Bottom line - Cox should go, but that is only a first step. This team needs to reexamine how they do a lot of things.

By RK

May 1, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Schuerholz and Wren do not have the balls… period. LOVE Bobby. But his decision making over the last several years is the managerial equivalent of watching Babe Ruths last 10 swings for the Boston Braves…

By BamaBrave

May 1, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Injuries have decimated this team, and that’s not Bobby’s fault. We’re only one month into a season that lasts six. Relax. We can’t panic - yet. And I like Pendleton, but if he is the heir apparent, I sure as hell hope he’ll be a better manager than he is a hitting coach.

By null

May 1, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Wow…some of you really hate women. Your boyfriends must get mad that you watch so much baseball and dream about Bobby Cox’s knob the way you seem to.

By pat

May 1, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

This is a bunch of bull. We have 5 count them 5 of our best pitchers on the DL. Francour has been inconsistent as well as everybody except Chipper. This have absolutely nothing to do with Bobby Cox…Nobody would or could be doing better.Period.

By Jim

May 1, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

It isn’t the bullpen. Their Strength and Conditioning Coach needs to be FIRED!!!! I can’t believe all the injuries this early in the season? That is poor conditioning!!!! That is the problem!!! These bullpen issues shouldn’t and wouldn’t be a problem if, they were ready to go!! I know that relievers are relievers but, they can’t get tired after 1 2/3 of an inning. That is absolutely ridiculous!! I have never seen so many quirky injuries?

By Big Dog

May 1, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

I love it when people talk about if ‘this’ or ‘that’ would have, or wouldn’t have, happened, yada, yada, yada…

The fact is that if ‘this’ or ‘that’ would have happened instead the whole sequence of events would have been different.

By booby cox

May 1, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Chop Stix…You suck! Bob might make a few mistakes but he puts his team in position to win the majority of the time! You however do very little to interest me with your braves coverage…Quite honestly I think you bringing this up is just some twisted way for you to make a name for yourself. F off!

By booby cox

May 1, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Chop Stix…You suck! Bob might make a few mistakes but he puts his team in position to win the majority of the time! You however do very little to interest me with your braves coverage…Quite honestly I think you bringing this up is just some twisted way for you to make a name for yourself. F off!

By saychuck

May 1, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Man on second and pitcher coming to the plate. One run lead. One hit all year. Already piched two innings of poor ball. Why let him hit??

By Supes

May 1, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Finally, someone said it! I knew none of the regular AJC writers would do it, since they will probably get denied access to the Braves Clubhouse, etc and have to go cover the Atlanta Dream now (about as low as you can on the totem pole)

Great job as always on your blogs!

All the people who say “it’s only a game in april”…yes you are correct ladies and gents…but they all count the same in the standings.

Somehow people dismiss early season games, as “yeah, we’ll make it up”…no you won’t! Not unless you go on a five game winning streak, and tell me, what have you seen from their recent play to make you think that’s possible?

Bobby Cox might be a hall of fame manager but he’s losing it. Some nights he falls so in love with the matchups, he’ll pull relievers after one batter!:look: and some nights he stays way too long with them, and makes pinch running replacements that don’t make sense!

Hey Bobby, Scott Thorman is not with the team last time I checked, what the hell were you thinking pulling TEX!

There is no doubt in my mind TEX makes that play. He’s a gold glove first baseman, not some scrub infielder who’s not good enough to start at any of his “positions he can play”:look:

Why not bring in Buddy for that inning to begin with? B/C Bobby Cox is managing or failing to manage this team.

As long as Cox is here the Braves will never win another WS title. He had the most talanted starting pitching staff assembled for him in the 90’s and a pretty good lineup to boot. Which is why he won so much. He is a decent Major League Team manager, nothing more. The great team make him possible hall of famer.

Again, Bravo to Chop Chip for having the guts to blog about this topic…and I hope Bobby retires after this season. Good riddance Cox!

By stynes

May 1, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

I don’t think there’s any evidence that Cox has destroyed Acosta’s elbow. Or any other reliever’s elbow for that matter. Moylan was used a lot last year but certainly being overworked wasn’t a factor with Soriano (71 games, 72 innings last year).

For the game last night, would it have been nice to have another pitcher come in and finish it? Sure. Would it have made a difference? Probably not. It wasn’t Acosta’s pitching that let the ball go through his legs or off the first baseman’s glove. It wasn’t his pitching that gave up the game winning hit, either. I’m not knocking on Carlyle, but would he have honestly done any better than Acosta?

To start the last inning, Cox had only 5 relievers available. Acosta who had just pitched 2 innings and thrown 28 pitches (not 48, as some have said. Acosta finished throwing 48 pitches but threw 20 of those in the 12th). The others availbe were Campillo, Ohman, Resop, and Carlyle.

Campillo has never had a save opportunity in the majors and piched 1.1 innings the night before. You going to put him into that situation?

Ohman has 1 career save in 5 opportunities. That’s not a typo - 4 blown saves to 1 save. And talk about overused, he’d already appeared in 14 games this year (out of 26 going into last night).

Resop is very similar. He has 0 career saves in 1 opportunity, has been used in 12 games for the Braves already and is sporting an ERA close to 9. You going to put him in there?

Carlyle is a very similiar story. He has 0 career saves in 1 opportunity and pitched twice during the Mets series (including walking 2 in his second appearance). He’s also primarily served as a starter in the past. Oh… and he gave up the game winning hit anyway.

It’s easy to criticize Cox, I do the same thing a lot of times. But if you’re in his situation, who do you put in the game for Acosta to save the team’s first one run game of the season? Acosta aside, the other guys are a combined 1/7 in save opportunities? Who do you trust to get it done?

It’s not Cox’s fault. The team just hasn’t played well. Frighteningly similar to last year, I might add. If you looked at the team last year, they weren’t “bad” statistically. They had decent hitting stats. The pitching could have been better but it wasn’t terrible either. But they just didn’t put it together. They’d win 11-2 and lose 6-5. It was all of the little things.

That’s what happened last night. Cox didn’t miss a ball between his legs, he didn’t misplay a liner to the first baseman that would have left 2 out and nobody on. He didn’t ground into a double play to end the 11th instead of winning it then. He didn’t get doubled off in the 10th with an opportunity to win it then. The team just hasn’t gotten the job done.

I’m not trying to be a pessamist. I’m a huge fan and I hope they can figure out a way to turn it around. Maybe the off day today and coming back home will do them some good. I’ll keep cheering in hopes it will.

By poorbrave

May 1, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Move Cox to Asst.VP.—-Make Brian Snitker Mgr. has been Mgr. in Richmond and worked his way up etc..Players respect him and he don’t play around.—-Fire T. Pendleton, He bring nothing to this team (except former player) he’s not even good hitting Coach. Hire* Ron Baylor or Chris Chambliss hitting coach.——-Fire Roger McDowell,he’s been a joke all along. Replace him with *Guy Hansenpitching Coach. Make* Pat Corrales asst. Mgr and dugout coach.* keep the other Coaches maybe add* Ron Gant as 3rd base coach.* I can’t believe someone would want TP as Mgr..What has he ever done? Would be another nose picker! Cox was good in old days but times have changed and if you don’t change with time you get left behind.

By PatioDaddio

May 1, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Pretty insulting topic Chop Chick. Implying Bobby is too old for the job. Only a naive young person would even consider such a notion.

Generally the ones that lambast Bobby are just using up their last bottle of Clearasil pimple lotion. The others are those who have never been able to grasp the reality of the professional aspect of Basball.

Which group do you belong in?

It is obnoxious and irresponsible to be ignorant to the subject, but you are entitled to your unprofessional, amatuer opinion.

By Herschworld

May 1, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Baseball is a long distance race people not a sprint, we’ve played a month and we’re talking about firing bobby. I mean is this the ATL or Phillie, because last year the media wanted to fire Charlie Manuel this time last year and guess who won the division in that same year!! Have some class people!!! Listen bobby’s not the cause of all the injuries in the rotation and bull-pin, bobby’s not the one hitting below the mandosia line after the 6th inning, it’s the players!! Give the guy a little time to get the team’s feet under them..Hell I wanted to fire Cox when he traded Dale Murphy but I was 8 then..Braves fans find your class and put it to use…And stop taking you baseball advise from a chick, when I need to buy something for my girlfriend I’ll let you know, other wise stick to what you know: E!, the hills, oprah, movies with the keyword sisterhood in them, shoes and purses, and makeup..Not baseball

By cityofdecatur

May 1, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

whoa there are some real juvenile comments today. Everyone calm down. I’m from the school of thought that says Bobby can stay until he wants to go. Though I can understand the fire Bobby arguements. Change for change sake is silly. It’s the result of our instant gratification & what have you done for me lately culture. Chill, a manager is called a skipper (like on a ship)because he guides the team but doesn’t do the heavy lifting. Bobby’s even hand has given us the ability to get to the playoffs most years. Why change and for whom. Relax it’s early in the year injuries and inconsistant play are killing us now. Let’s talk at the all-star break.

By Phil

May 1, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!!

I have been saying for years that Bobby Cox is a total moron and needs to go. Not only is he the worst post season manager in baseball history, he has become a bad regular season manager as well. Let’s hope and pray that Cox has the decency to hand over the reigns after this year. It’s going to be another long year and we will be sitting home during the post season again.

By Michael

May 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

If you watched the game you should know that Acosta’s pitching did not lose it. Defensive errors did. Forget about the coaching, how about some guys stepping up and hitting.

By STRETCH

May 1, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Thank you CHOP CHICK for speaking up!

Jim, i feel your pain like so many others. BC has made 1 bonehead move after another. 14 division titles and ONE WS?! Are you freakin kidding me?

Cox leaves his pitchers in games too long! (remember the 99 WS, games 1 and 2 vs. Yankees when Maddux and Glavine had leads late in those games, he sent them back out there to the mound and both games the Braves lost, i will never get over that series!!!

I didnt see the game, but im hearing that Prado was on first and had never played first on a professional level? Why? I remember last season against the Reds in the late innings he went with Willie Harris on 3rd, and saying to myself this is not gonna be good. What happened? he bobbled a sure DP to get out of the inning and they lost that game!

Its time for that OVERRATED lineup to start making plays, Frenchy(swings at everything), McCann(cant throw anybody out), and what about Escobar, whats all the hype? He hasnt made any headlines, has he? These guys cant move runners with small ball, cant steal, cant bunt. Just trying to swing for the fence all the time! Defense is terrible as well.

All that talent and they keep taking it from the NATS and Pirates.

FOURTH IN THE EAST HEADED FOR LAST!!!

By Michael

May 1, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

If you watched the game you should know that Acosta’s pitching did not lose it. Defensive errors did. Forget about the coaching, how about some guys stepping up and hitting.

By SL3

May 1, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

With all the 1 run losses why not pinch hit for more runs. Take out our 2nd best hitter, Tex? What if we didn’t score? Leave Acosta in with his obvious wildness after bases loaded to walk in tie run? How about the squeeze play early in the game. Francour and McCann are not clutch at all. McCann needs to go on a diet. Can’t throw out runners. Too many passed balls. Batting 085 with runners in scoring position? Too much lefty righty bullpen switching leaving no pitchers late in game. That’s enough for now.

By Dan Greenfield

May 1, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

I’m sure the following observations have been made in the 100+ comments above, but… I strongly agree with Chopchick, especially given that Cox let Acosta bat with 2 out and a runner in scoring position the previous inning. We could have had an insurance run with a PH, and the at-bat probably drained him even more. But I think Bobby messes up in both directions. It drives me nuts to see him put a pitcher in for 2/3 inning and yank him, even though he’s pitching well, so a lefty (Ring, these days) can pitch to one batter (who then gets lifted for a pinch hitter in the next half inning). Is it any wonder he runs out of pitchers in extra inning games?

By Tom

May 1, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

At different times over the past fifteen years, I’ve called for Cox to go;for all intents and purposes, the season is over;lousy managing; players who can’t keep them selves healthy; lousy pitching and defense; hitters who can’t hit. It makes sense to dump Cox now while the season has gone to hell. The Braves will finish last behind the Nats this year. I would dump Cox just because he can’t beat the Nats or Marlins, both Triple AAA caliber at best; or the Mets with crap pitching. Yep, it’s time for Bobby to get lost.

By DanTucker

May 1, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

The most severe injury on this braves team is the brain seizure suffered by its hall of fame manager. He is severely limited in his ability to select the best players available for the lineup, put them into a productive batting order, make intelligent defensive/offensive substitutions, instill the slightest hint of plate discipline on the team’s bombers, and manage the pitching staff. His poor decisions on pitching changes last year cost the braves enough lost games to lose the weak East Division race. Definitely past time for Grandpa Cox to go sleep somewhere else.

By Tom

May 1, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

At different times over the past fifteen years, I’ve called for Cox to go;for all intents and purposes, the season is over;lousy managing; players who can’t keep them selves healthy; lousy pitching and defense; hitters who can’t hit. It makes sense to dump Cox now while the season has gone to hell. The Braves will finish last behind the Nats this year. I would dump Cox just because he can’t beat the Nats or Marlins, both Triple AAA caliber at best; or the Mets with crap pitching. Yep, it’s time for Bobby to get lost.

By mcdawg

May 1, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

the ramblings of lunatics-IDIOTS

By Frustrated by Analysts Stats

May 1, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

You Analysts keep SCREWING up the STAT - “They’re 0-9 in one-run losses now” Really?? Name one team that has ever WON a game when they were down by 1 run after the 9th inning!?!?

I looked at last years results and guess what - the Braves were 0-24 in 1 loss games last year! Imagine that -losing a game when down by one point!

I guess the Braves would be better off if they were, oh say, 5-4 in one loss games this year, right? Gimme a break….how does that make sense?

I’ve seen this STAT till I’m finally fed up with it enough to say something. I don’t know who started it, but it’s rediculous.

Put a TIME FRAME on the STAT. For example - The Braves are 0-9 when losing by 1 run after the __ inning….OR….The Braves have lost 9 games by only one run this year.

A loss by one run is just as bad as a loss by 5 runs. What you Writers should focus on, is how many runners have been stranded in one loss games OR some other significant STAT that contributes to the ONE LOSS games - like the Braves pitching.

Good grief…..

By steve

May 1, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox is a great manager. I certainly have disagreed with some of the ways he has managed some games. I personally do not feel that game managment is his strength. However, what he lacks as strategist he more than makes up for with his ability to get the most out of players. The players love and respect him and do their best for him. That is simply not true for most managers or coaches in sports today. It is tough leading a bunch of millionaire athletes, but nobody does it better than Bobby.

He has earned his right to stay as long as he wants. Wanting him to hang it up is nothing but overreaction.

By Thor

May 1, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

I would keep Bobby; he’s a good manager who is having injury problems this year and the bull pen is a mess. It’s early in the year and anything can happen in baseball. I’m fan and an optimist when it comes to my Braves. There is too much talent to be ignored - including the leadership of Bobby. Leave Bobby alone. Go Braves!

By jeff

May 1, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Early? Hell! All you people that want bobby to stay, well you keep driving that old 67 Ford falcon while the rest of the world drive a New BMW.

By Jeff in Roswell

May 1, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Damn Hampton all to HELL! What a waste of money!!!! That jerk will never be healthy. Unload that MFer and make it a top priority! Really, when can the Braves be done with Mike Hampton the NIGHTMARE?!?!?!?!

By Jim

May 1, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Choppette, are you serious? You get a daily blog on here and one month in to the season your suggesting Bobby Cox hang it up….at least you hide your face with your glove. News flash - the Braves don’t have a closer. And guess what, the Braves had plenty of opportunities to get out of that inning…. And guess what you know-nothing tramp - the Braves scored 2 runs against the Nationals. I don’t care if they’re playing the best team in baseball, that team should score at least 5 runs a game. But yes Bobby blew it right? You’re a lame excuse for a “fan’s” perspective. I’m not even sure you’re a chick from the limited amount of your face we can see, you resemble that snowboarder Shaun White. Maybe that’s why you don’t know the difference between a fastball and a ham sandwich. Do real Braves fans a favor and hang it up yourself.

By Herschworld

May 1, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

I like how some chick who doesn’t know what the hell she’s talking about writes one article about firing Bobby and all these so called braves come out of the woodworks saying “yeah I’ve been saying this for years” give me a F-ing brake. Sounds like a bunch of Georgia fans, leave all your b*** in Athens

By Todd

May 1, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Chop chick, you’ve gotta be kidding, right? I cannot believe you and all the other ignorant commenters are calling for the head of Bobby Cox. What does it take to prove to you people that he’s in the top 2-3 managers in the game? Do you really think any other manager could have kept this team on top for all these years? Is it not apparent that he has the respect of just about every player who’s ever played for him.

A team with a bad manager will not be able to attract free agents like the Braves have over the years. Look at Gary Sheffield, he still says his favorite two managers are Jim Leyland and Bobby Cox. And did anyone see Maddux the other day pitch a fit when SD’s manager came out to get him? He never would have done that with Bobby!

I don’t know enough about baseball to say whether Acosta should have been pulled, and I’m guessing a lot of you don’t either. I do know that Bobby wasn’t responsible for the misplays in the field that let the runners get on. If Manny made the play on the comebacker ya’ll would be saying it was a great move to keep him in.

One of the best things about Cox over the years is he doesn’t panic. Some of you fans have yet to learn that.

By Mackey Sasser

May 1, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

It will be time for Bobby to go as soon as this season ends. Next year’s team will have no Glavine and no Smoltz - essentially a bunch of kids once you get past Chipper and Hudson. That team will need new blood at the top. However, to ditch Bobby with this group would be a big mistake.

By soxman

May 1, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

FINALLY! The first time since 1991 someone has been allowed to print the truth about Cox. The AJC is just one big ad for the Braves, I get that, it is all business, but thanks for your blog, CC. Cox has never known when to change pitchers, never had his teams learn basics like bunting and base running, has never understood the basic concept of manufacturing a run, and can’t even make up a line-up card. He got away with it because he had the best pitchers in history, but wasted years with them- one WS in all those years with those starters? And even when he beats his wife, he gets a free pass and is adored by the local media. One run games belong to the manager and he has been losing them since the agonizing WS in 1991. Atlanta is just full of Cox suckers!

By SL3

May 1, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

The Braves have lost 9 1 run games 1 month into the season. 24 all of last season? In a full season that would be about 54 or so. That would be a significant stat wouldn’t it? Good Grief!

By KneeJerk

May 1, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Who has a better chance of scoring from 2nd on a single, Prado or tex? I say Prado, who’s also an infielder. Blame the infielder for not fielding the ball, not Bobby. That was a fundamentally sound move by Cox. At some point players must make plays.

By RL

May 1, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

You shouldn’t drink and post blogs. While Cox is not perfect…who would be better? No one. Bobby stays until he wants to.

By tracman

May 1, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Whenever you are struggling to win one-run games, you have to question the decision making of the manager. Cox has never been great in that department, but he has shown he is a good motivator and communicator with his players. Those 14 straight division titles prove he knows how to get good production from his players. But the inability to win close games is troubling. However, the decision to take a chance on aging starting pitchers this year was not all his. Schuerholz and Wren need to be held accountable as well. If this team is still under .500 by the 50 game mark then it will be time to worry.

By ijonathan

May 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Stynes

Your argument is full of holes. Most of the reasons you give for the loss not being attributable to Cox, are DIRECTLY related to Cox…it’s called in-game strategy and putting his various player assets in situations to maximize the potential for success. Leaving a rattled and tiring Acosta in the game to walk guys and biff routine ground balls, leaving Acosta in to hit in the top of the inning with runners on base after pitching 2 innings already, pulling tex for a pinch runner for no good reason then having Prado in the game to drop a double-play line drive, etc. Sure, Cox wasn’t out on the field to make those errors of omission/comission, but he was the architect of ALL of them.

By billy stover

May 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

what do you people in atlanta see in bobby crotch(cox). all he does is sit in the dugout eating peanuts.he looks like a big frog siiting in there. this big frog has to go.

By kalo

May 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Cox has earned his keep throughout the last 17 years. In my book he has the right to stay until he calls it quits on his own. Much like Joe’Pa.

By kalo

May 1, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Cox has earned his keep throughout the last 17 years. In my book he has the right to stay until he calls it quits on his own. Much like Joe’Pa.

By Sanjeev

May 1, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

It’s been a long time since Cox should have been fired. Just ask Mark Cuban what a great regular season coach does - gets fired. Didn’t the A’s fire their manager 2 years ago after 3 straight trips to the playoffs? To a majority of pro franchises getting to the playoffs isn’t good enough. The Red Wings fired a coach even though they reached the playoffs every year. The league leading NJ Devils fired their coach near the end of one season, (6 games left I believe) and ending up winning a Stanley Cup that year. Ask Torre what winning division titles mean.

If Cox is such a great manager, why is his post season record in 1 run games so poor? Not to mention having 3 of your starting 5 for a long period of time all going to Hall of Fame.

By soxman

May 1, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

ps- Chopchick- are you hot, and single???!!!

By Paul

May 1, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

NO…..Cox should only step down when he wants to. He has deserved that respect.

By P Dawg

May 1, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox needs to let US know when HE wants to change roles. He has given this city it’s only championship of all it’s pro franchises. Get off the good man’s back and let him decide for himself! Remember folks, it’s still VERY early in the season and we typically come out of the gates a little slow while Cox tweaks the lineup, so have some patience for crying out loud. As far as I’m concerned, he stays as long as he wants.

By B-Dub

May 1, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Chop Chick -

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. Go cover softball…

By Doug

May 1, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Great idea! Fire Bobby Cox. He hasn’t done anything, after all. Chop Chix, I’ll bet you could have won, well, NOTHING. The guy takes a team that had been beyond terrible for years, creates a dynasty, has the respect of everybody who ever played for him, and you want him fired. You’re a complete moron. How you got a blog on baseball is beyond me. As for the playoff losses? You try beating the Yankees with the absurd line of retread bullpens that he had to work with.

By wolfman

May 1, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

I respect all Bobby Cox has done, and the players love playing for him as I would have too, but his on field decision making has back fired in his face the last two years (‘06 team was just bad) because he never changes it up. He never hit & runs, always waits for three -run -homer. Leaves starters in too long. Does bone head moves like yesterday replacing Tex with Prado, and not pinch hitting for Acosta !!….sticks with players too long who are struggling out of loyalty (thats BS)!!!…and Lets Frenchy stay in the line-up when his ankle is hurt or is hitting nothing just to keep a streak going !!!!…This horror show of the last two years will never end it seems like. Injuries have killed us this year and thats not his fault, but his moves past few years have blown up in his face , but he never changes it up. The defintion of an IDIOT is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different outcome !!!!…..Bobby, I know your not an idiot, so do something different PLEASE !!!!!!!!

By Sammy Kershaw

May 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Who cares what you think anyway. This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever seen on the ajc website not written by Terrance Moore

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Frustrated by Analysts Stats 10:22 am

I’m frustrated by your idiotic ramblings.

There is significance to the Braves being 0&9 in one run games - meaning they have won 0 games by 1 run. The significance is that they fold under the pressure in close games both offensively & defensively. One way to help that situation offensively is to play small ball which Cox has steadfastly refused to do his entire tenure.

The only 2 guys on the team that know how to bunt are Smoltz & Glavine.

Why does McCann get a pass on the fact that he is PATHETIC defensively. He can’t even throw out the runner on a pitch out. Need to sub for him EVERY game 6th inning since he can’t hit late anyway. Do the Braves have a defensive cather though?

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

billy stover 10:40 am

Are those peanuts Bobby’s is picking out of his nose?

By gloveoil

May 1, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Y’all down in Atlanta: Most fans would be grateful for all the wins Cox has overseen. On the other hand, having your relievers throw at consecutive batters in the last of the 9th with the game tied, to put the tying run at 2nd, tells me either (A) if they weren’t deliberately trying to hit the batters, that those relievers are dangerously incompetent; or (B) if they WERE trying to hit ‘em, that your relievers are dangerously stupid. If it’s (A), then that’s the GM’s fault, because Cox doesn’t have the horses to work with. If it’s (B), then Cox needs to get a handle either on his team, or on the exit doorknob. Whichever it is, better get it squared away, or else up here in Virginia & D.C., we are gonna love seeing the Nationals beat up on y’all for the next 10 years or so.

By gloveoil

May 1, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Y’all down in Atlanta: Most fans would be grateful for all the wins Cox has overseen. On the other hand, having your relievers throw at consecutive batters in the last of the 9th with the game tied, to put the tying run at 2nd, tells me either (A) if they weren’t deliberately trying to hit the batters, that those relievers are dangerously incompetent; or (B) if they WERE trying to hit ‘em, that your relievers are dangerously stupid. If it’s (A), then that’s the GM’s fault, because Cox doesn’t have the horses to work with. If it’s (B), then Cox needs to get a handle either on his team, or on the exit doorknob. Whichever it is, better get it squared away, or else up here in Virginia & D.C., we are gonna love seeing the Nationals beat up on y’all for the next 10 years or so.

By bigchiefrg

May 1, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

WOW….BOBBY COX HAS FORGOTTON MORE BASEBALL THAN ANY OF YOU INGRATES WILL EVER KNOW!!!! HE HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO SAY WHEN IT IS TIME TO HANG UP THE SPIKES. I TAKE HIM OVER ANYONE. IT IS FREAKIN’ APRIL. IF I DID NOT KNOW ANY BETTER I WOULD THINK I WAS READING A NY BLOG ON THE YANKEES.

By The Wreck

May 1, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Lets take a look at the one run losses: We have 6 in which the Braves scored 3 runs or less (two of those in COLORADO of all places), 2 that the scheduled starter did not record an out, 2 more that the starter lasted only 3 inning. The ONLY one run loss that can be blamed on the performance of the bullpen or the manager is the 2nd game of the season (11-12 loss to the pirates). The bats need to start plating some runs. We have a hall of fame manager and a very good pitching staff even with all the injuries.

By Apaul404

May 1, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Yes bobby brought Atlanta it’s first championship. 13 years ago. We will always have love for him but the bottom line is this team has been underachieving for a while now. It’s painful to watch how undisciplined they are. When we were successful we had abundant talent and a top payroll. Now the payroll has come back down to earth and so has this team. You can look within the division and see a manager making a small payroll and a less talented roster successful. The Florida Marlins makes this teams management look pathetic. It’s time to move on.

By The Wreck

May 1, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Lets take a look at the one run losses: We have 6 in which the Braves scored 3 runs or less (two of those in COLORADO of all places), 2 that the scheduled starter did not record an out, 2 more that the starter lasted only 3 inning. The ONLY one run loss that can be blamed on the performance of the bullpen or the manager is the 2nd game of the season (11-12 loss to the pirates). The bats need to start plating some runs. We have a hall of fame manager and a very good pitching staff even with all the injuries.

By Chop Chick

May 1, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Glad to see that I’ve spoken for so many Braves fans. And for those who disagree, I respect your opinions (when there’s a legitimate opinion there) and can appreciate where you’re coming from. The one thing we have in common is that we all love this team. As a reminder, this is a fan blog and doesn’t represent anyone’s opinion but mine, for what that’s worth!

By timthebrave

May 1, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Wow. Amazing journalism. When does DOB’s blog come out so we can get some real insight. What would you have done? If they win 1 game yesterday do you say that he is a genius online today? The fact that people love playing for Bobby Cox speaks a lot. A manager has a bad game every now and then but it is up to the players to perform. Sometimes PROFESSIONAL BALLPLAYERS need to be responsible for their incosistent play and not the coach….Why do you hide behind your glove? Are you emberassed for putting out crappy blogs. I think it is a little early in the season after having 3 of your top 4 pitches going on and off the DL and Chipper and Yunel going on and off DL to say anthing definitive about this team. See ya’ll at the Ted on Friday. Go Braves!

By VaBravesfan

May 1, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

When Leo was here with throwing program, we generally did not have injured pitchers. Coincidence, luck, or was he doing something right? Secondly, Cox is a good players manager but a bad game manager. Where is the trade-off?

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

It’s Freakin May now - saw a stat the other day which noted that teams with a losing record in April rarely make the post-season - hmmmmmm.

Bloggers last year kept saying it’s still early to eventually be replaced by there’s still time to end with wait til next year.

By richbrave

May 1, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

DOWN ON THE FARM:

TNJeff:

To answer the defensive catcher q. see - Probably the most consistant player all season has been CLINT SAMMONS both offensively and defensively. Batting .323 and just one run allowed on an error and one passed ball by my count in 16 games caught.

By METS62FAN

May 1, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

IF A SWORN ENEMY, A NYM FAN, CAN SUPPLY A POINT OF VIEW & BE TOLERATED, HERE GOES: FROM MY VANTAGE POINT I SEE A SITUATION WHEREBY COX REC’D TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR WINNING WITH A TEAM THAT HAD 3 HOFers IN A 5 MAN ROTATION + A HOFer @ 3B. BASICLY A MODERN DAY 27 YANKEES, IF ANYTHING THE BRAVES CONSISTANT ACHILLES HEAL HAS BEEN THEIR SMOLTZLESS BULLPENS. FOR THAT I WOULD LOOK TO THE GM WHO PREFERRED TO STOCK IT WITH SPRING TRAINING REJECTS & CASTOFFS. OWNERSHIP POST TURNER HAS NOT BEEN AN ALLY. WHEN MOST TEAMS ARE JUST CATCHING UP WITH DEDICATED SPORTS CHANNELS, ETC. BRAVES/TURNER WERE PIONEERS. WHILE MOST TEAMS INCREASE PRODUCT SPENDING IN ANTICIPATION OF INCREASED REVENUES DERIVED FROM OPENNING NEW VENUES. ONE HAS TO ASK HOW IS IT THE BRAVES SALARY LINE DECREASES OR FLATTENS EVEN WITH A DEDICATED SPORTS TV-OUTLET IN A RELATIVLY NEW VENUE, TURNER FIELD? COX ISN’T YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM. HE’S JUST THE LOWEST FRUIT & EASIEST TO PICK. BTW, I PERSONALLY DON’T LIKE THE BELLOWING WIFE-BEATER.

By METS62FAN

May 1, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

IF A SWORN ENEMY, A NYM FAN, CAN SUPPLY A POINT OF VIEW & BE TOLERATED, HERE GOES: FROM MY VANTAGE POINT I SEE A SITUATION WHEREBY COX REC’D TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR WINNING WITH A TEAM THAT HAD 3 HOFers IN A 5 MAN ROTATION + A HOFer @ 3B. BASICLY A MODERN DAY 27 YANKEES, IF ANYTHING THE BRAVES CONSISTANT ACHILLES HEAL HAS BEEN THEIR SMOLTZLESS BULLPENS. FOR THAT I WOULD LOOK TO THE GM WHO PREFERRED TO STOCK IT WITH SPRING TRAINING REJECTS & CASTOFFS. OWNERSHIP POST TURNER HAS NOT BEEN AN ALLY. WHEN MOST TEAMS ARE JUST CATCHING UP WITH DEDICATED SPORTS CHANNELS, ETC. BRAVES/TURNER WERE PIONEERS. WHILE MOST TEAMS INCREASE PRODUCT SPENDING IN ANTICIPATION OF INCREASED REVENUES DERIVED FROM OPENNING NEW VENUES. ONE HAS TO ASK HOW IS IT THE BRAVES SALARY LINE DECREASES OR FLATTENS EVEN WITH A DEDICATED SPORTS TV-OUTLET IN A RELATIVLY NEW VENUE, TURNER FIELD? COX ISN’T YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM. HE’S JUST THE LOWEST FRUIT & EASIEST TO PICK. BTW, I PERSONALLY DON’T LIKE THE BELLOWING WIFE-BEATER. CAPSLOCK REQ BY DISABILITY. NOT EMOTIONAL OUTLET!

By Apaul404

May 1, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Yes bobby brought Atlanta it’s first championship. 13 years ago. We will always have love for him but the bottom line is this team has been underachieving for a while now. It’s painful to watch how undisciplined they are. When we were successful we had abundant talent and a top payroll. Now the payroll has come back down to earth and so has this team. You can look within the division and see a manager making a small payroll and a less talented roster successful. The Florida Marlins makes this teams management look pathetic. For all you people who say he has earned the right to leave when he want’s to you need to understand this is a buisness. Ask a guy who was recently fired after winning four championships in a decade. Joe Torre. They need to take emotion out of it and do whats best for the team. It’s time to move on.

By METS62FAN

May 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

IF A SWORN ENEMY, A NYM FAN, CAN SUPPLY A POINT OF VIEW & BE TOLERATED, HERE GOES: FROM MY VANTAGE POINT I SEE A SITUATION WHEREBY COX REC’D TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR WINNING WITH A TEAM THAT HAD 3 HOFers IN A 5 MAN ROTATION + A HOFer @ 3B. BASICLY A MODERN DAY 27 YANKEES, IF ANYTHING THE BRAVES CONSISTANT ACHILLES HEAL HAS BEEN THEIR SMOLTZLESS BULLPENS. FOR THAT I WOULD LOOK TO THE GM WHO PREFERRED TO STOCK IT WITH SPRING TRAINING REJECTS & CASTOFFS. OWNERSHIP POST TURNER HAS NOT BEEN AN ALLY. WHEN MOST TEAMS ARE JUST CATCHING UP WITH DEDICATED SPORTS CHANNELS, ETC. BRAVES/TURNER WERE PIONEERS. WHILE MOST TEAMS INCREASE PRODUCT SPENDING IN ANTICIPATION OF INCREASED REVENUES DERIVED FROM OPENNING NEW VENUES. ONE HAS TO ASK HOW IS IT THE BRAVES SALARY LINE DECREASES OR FLATTENS EVEN WITH A DEDICATED SPORTS TV-OUTLET IN A RELATIVLY NEW VENUE, TURNER FIELD? COX ISN’T YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM. HE’S JUST THE LOWEST FRUIT & EASIEST TO PICK. BTW, I PERSONALLY DON’T LIKE THE BELLOWING WIFE-BEATER. CAPSLOCK REQ BY DISABILITY. NOT EMOTIONAL OUTLET!

By soxman

May 1, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

METS62FAN: your main disability is being a Mets fan!!!!

By timthebrave

May 1, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

To the nats fan. There are 2 things that give it away that it was an accident they hit them….1. It was a slow curve. If you want to hit someone expect a fastball at the back 2. IT WAS A TIE GAME IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9th!

By richbrave

May 1, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

CHOP CHICK;

You do good work. Keep it up. Good topic.

Keep BC or don’t is not my decision. Thats up to the administration and ownership. But I’ll say thanks for the effort, and that there’s always a time to retire. Is this it?? Bobby knows. Maybe that’s why he’s been pointing in that direction lately. Apparantly its his choice to make. And I appreciate the organization’s take on that subject.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Wow - good comments from the hated Mets fan. Somebody else that hasn’t forgotten that the Hallowed Bobby Cox is also a wife-beater. I remember the headlines. Maybe for his wife’s sake we need him to continue beating up the Brave’s bullpen!

Thanks Rich Brave for the info on Sammons. Can he play backup at 1st too - we seem to have nobody for that role anymore?

By METS62FAN

May 1, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

SORRY FOR MULTIPOSTS, RAN INTO A GLICH IMMEDIATELY AFTER HITTING “POST” BUTTO. DID IT TWICE; BU NO IDEA WHERE THIRD CAME FROM. AGAIN, SORRY.

By soxman

May 1, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Who owns the AJC? COX Enterprises! No wonder they won’t ever criticize the guy!

By timthebrave

May 1, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Thanks for some perspective Mets fans. I’ll take all the division titles and 1 world series over spending the same and not winning s** like the Mets. Just kidding. I agree that the manager always get too much credit and too much of the blame especially in baseball. Cox did play small ball and it didn’t work. If we get a man to 3rd with less than 2 outs it’s up to the players to come through with a run

By richbrave

May 1, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

VaBravesFan:

Many of my friends are already journeying up I-95 for Nationals games. No question this will quit being Braves and become Nationals territory. And soon. Too late for myself however. Been Braves loyal since ‘52. Won’t stop now.

By Al

May 1, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Poor bullpen decisions. Suicide squeeze in the 3rd inning? Never juggling the line-up for a guy in a slump (Texeira for most of April was a rally killer) Bad pitching coach, who shares the bullpen problems and health issue of all the pitchers. When’s the last time you saw a hit and run? A good manager is supposed to create one run per game for his team. Bobby needs to move on and we need to bring back LEO!

By B

May 1, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

That game wasn’t Bobby’s fault. If Prado makes that catch then there are 2 outs with bases empty. Of course, our bats might have managed more than 2 runs in 12 innings as well.

Lost in this mess is Kudos to Kotsay in coming through with the RBI in the 12th. Finally someone gets the runner in.

By richbrave

May 1, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

TNJeff:

Doubtful. Haven’t heard that he can.

Yeah, I remember that wife episode.

By rekkidbraka

May 1, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

When it’s time to change… then it’s time to change…

By Supes

May 1, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Probably first and last time I’ll agree with a Mets fan, but the guy has a legit point.

The Braves seem to be headed in the wrong direction the past 2 years, in all fronts. Games won/lost, talent in the minors, getting mediocre trades (if TEX walks, it will be so shut up, yeah you who’s thinking of posting about that trade), losing the TBS contract and getting shoved to a small regional network like SS or FSN, or that demeaning PeachTV, where only people in the metro area can watch the Braves game (yeah, real clever TBS fallout).

We have an aging rotation, no bullpen quality depth at all, a slew of pitching injuries…and where are the up and coming superstars for this team?

McCann? Jeff “Frenchy”? Kelly Johnson and Yunel? They aren’t quite there yet, so while they reach the upper echalon of players, we are going through a tough time.

Mark Kotsay is serviceable at best, sucks against LHP, it’s almost unthinkable that Cox doesn’t platoon the guy, given his injury status and lack of hitting success against lefties.

We need more speed on this team, lack of stolen base production is alarming lately to the point of waiting on the 3 run HR is not enough.

Bobby needs to retire and let this team start over again, after Glavine, Smoltz and TEX have all moved on. Hopefully the Braves can pull off some trades if they are out of the race by July (which they probably will be) and stockpile talent like the Florida Marlins. Except at least Braves have some payroll flexibility to sign that talent after it develops.

Go back to doing that Atlanta Braves, getting a young stud prospect ala John Smoltz from the Tigers, and signing a young stud pitcher like a Maddux/Jake Peavy comes to mind right now, and build with youth at the starting rotation!

By Kentavo

May 1, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

To the idiots who say Cox has a right to manage the Braves as long as he wants to, I ask: what gives him the right? It is time for him to move on. Every dog has its day - and his best days are long gone. This is a younger team (minus the starting rotation and DL) and there needs to be a general in charge that can chew some butts and instill some fundamentals. Furthermore, McDowell has to go. I can’t really see what Pendleton’s doing either as the hitters hack away without any plate discipline. Hope Wren has some cajones and brings in some new blood. Who could replace the legend Cox? What about Bob Brenley or Buck Showalter? Or Dale Murhpy?

By Kentavo

May 1, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

To the idiots who say Cox has a right to manage the Braves as long as he wants to, I ask: what gives him the right? It is time for him to move on. Every dog has its day - and his best days are long gone. This is a younger team (minus the starting rotation and DL) and there needs to be a general in charge that can chew some butts and instill some fundamentals. Furthermore, McDowell has to go. I can’t really see what Pendleton’s doing either as the hitters hack away without any plate discipline. Hope Wren has some cajones and brings in some new blood. Who could replace the legend Cox? What about Bob Brenley or Buck Showalter? Or Dale Murhpy?

By Kris in NC

May 1, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Good call CC. That took a lot of courage to say it but I am with you on this one. It is time for Bobby to move up to the front office and let someone else manage this team. We have the talent and yet we can’t win these tight games.

There should have been a PH for Acosta in the top of the 12th, why in the world do you want him in there when he has already pitched 2 innings? Jurrjens threw only 86 pitches in 7 innings, he could have gone at least 1 more inning at least. This kid is a stud in the making. That would have allowed other guys to be used in a different ways. I am not and never have been a big fan of Boyer, he has blown 3 games, big games for us.

We are not even a quarter of the way into this season, this bullpen is over used and 2 of our main guys on DL’ed and who knows when Soriano will return, Moylan is gone probably for the season, Gonzo will be back but to what ability. Smoltz is now saying when he returns, he is returning as a reliever, Bobby wants him as a starter, listen to your HOF’er, he could be the stablerizer. Campillo has been one of the best, time to move him to the closer role if need be.

Hey Mets62Fan,no need to yell,(caps are consider yelling), you need to worry about your team and how you are all underachieving right now yourselves. We will right this ship eventually.

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By My 2

May 1, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Thanks to Chipper’HOSS’Jones and ‘JJ’Jair Jurgens for a freakin fantastic April!!! Y’all were awesome. Smoltzee-sorry U are Hurt.

The rest of you …..SHAME ON YOU!

This is the BIGS! EARN your freakin pay. By the way….Make Hampton start on the day he is supposed to. Best thing for him(win or lose,poor’pect’or not).

By Zach

May 1, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick,

You’re ridiculous! Get rid of Bobby because Matin Prado can’t catch a line drive, and Acosta can’t turn a dp on a ground ball right to him.

Give me a break.

Bobby is brilliant, and there is NOT 1 PLAYER in Major League Baseball (except maybe Bob Wickman, which I don’t think plays in the league anymore) who wouldn’t want to play for him.

Maybe you should take some blame of Cox, and look at home many defensive miscues we had last game, or how badly Brian McCann has sucked in late innings and tight games.

Oh and I don’t know if you haven’t noticed, but the Braves don’t have the healthiest of pen right now.

Be a real fan and start putting where the blame actually needs to go.

By stynes

May 1, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

ijonathan:

By that logic, everything that happens on the field is the success of detriment of the manager. I had no issue with Cox pinch runnin with Prado. Prado gives you the opportunity to score from second with a basehit to the outfield much more easily than Tex does. Any major leaguer should have been able to catch the ball that Prado missed and I’m sure Prado himself would tell you that.

To stay with your argument and follow it to it’s logical conclusion,though - just for entertainment value - how did someone who was such a good manager in innings 1 - 11 holding the Nats to 1 run get so bad in the 12th inning?

By Kelley

May 1, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick: Exactly WHO did Bobby have to choose from to come in and replace Acosta? Buddy Carlyle? He has little trust in the pitchers who were left in the bullpen and for good reason.

It’s funny to me to talk to people from outside Atlanta/Georgia to hear how much they respect and admire Bobby, and how other organizations would love to have Bobby as their skipper.

Let’s also not overlook the runners left on base and the errors yesterday, I guess that’s Bobby’s fault too.

Everyone screams about the one run losses this year and blames it on Bobby, it would be interesting to see how many one run WINS the Braves have had as Bobby as the manager; guess he wouldn’t get credit for those though.

I dread the day Bobby retires, but when he does and the team goes to crap, I’m going to be the first to post a blog to tell all of you I told you so. He and JS are the main reasons for the Braves’ success since 91. Who drafted Chipper? Bobby. Who traded to get Smoltz? Bobby. He should have a statue built in his honor, not these uneducated blogs posted about him.

By Roy

May 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

In addition to pitching decisions … lineup choices are also questionable. When Chipper is out and Johnson or Francoeur are inserted in number 3 they tend to press and go 0/4. If Teixeira and the rest of lineup are just moved up one place everyone is batting in their accustomed order. Make Pendleton acting manager for the balance of the year and see what he does … the shake up would be good for the team.

Roy

By Coach

May 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

0-9 in one run losses ???? but I bet they haven’t lost a one run win!

Nice article

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Haven’t won a 1 run win yet either idiot.

By nelson

May 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

bye bye cox , pendleton , mc dowell , chino , outside everybody if this season as I am seeing it we do not go to arrives at anything I am watching the same of last year

long season is cominggg … wake up liberty media !!!!!!!

By nelson

May 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

if but bobby cox not stay until years has 100, wake up is possible to be retired and to follow in the offices of braves looking for talent but that him of the opportunity to another person, who completes world series of the brave ones was in 1995, it happened to us just like to fans of Boston that they had to wait for 86 years. if we did not wake up fans and we demanded a change, wake up liberty media

By you big dummy

May 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

chop chick…i can no longer value anything that comes from you. one of the greatest managers in the long history of our pastime makes a call you dont like,and now he has to go? have you EVER listened to his players talk about him? how much blame should be put on the players (e.g prado dropping a ball and acosta missing an easy grounder)3 innings for the closer who only had 20 something pitches…big deal. you want resop in there? great idea! fire cox and replace him with chino. your ideas and blog, along with the other kneejerk fools that post on here about booting cox, are unbelieveable. you stink. boooooooooo!

By nelson

May 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

if but bobby cox not stay until years has 100 YEARS ??, wake up is possible to be retired and to follow in the offices of braves looking for talent but that him of the opportunity to another person, who completes world series of the brave ones was in 1995, it happened to us just like to fans of Boston that they had to wait for 86 years. if we did not wake up fans and we demanded a change, wake up liberty MEDIA

By Pentagon Dawg

May 1, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I was at the game last night. Please allow me to offer a couple of observations.

First, the new Nationals stadium is really a great baseball experience. I took my 11 year old son, and we both loved it.

Second, the Braves looked emotionless last night. I know it’s a long season, but the Nats were much more into the game, it appeared, than our Braves. I will give credit to four players that really showed their efforts last night - Escobar (that guy is phenomonal), Kotsay, Blanco and Jurrjiens. The rest of the team looked like they were going through the motions.

Third - our fundamentals are awful. A failed suicide squeeze attempt, getting doubled up at first base on a line out to the outfield, pitcher fielding, and an inability to move runners over cost us the game. This team is not hitting - so we can’t wait for the 3-run homer, ‘cause they aren’t coming.

This is a good team, but they’re playing really unispired baseball right now. This is a team that is supposed to challenge for the NL East pennant, and they don’t give the impression that their heart is in it. Don’t know how to fix it, but something has to be done. Next thing you know, it will be August, and we’ll be 6 games out of the lead. We’ll look back to games like this and only be able to wonder “what if”.

By TN Jeff

May 1, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Which is preferable - players that love their coach and enjoy playing for him or players that play their butts off to win regardless of what they think about their manager.

Show me the latter even if it takes bringing in a tyrant for a manager. It’s not like these primadonnas (the players) aren’t being compensated!

By Jim

May 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

It really isn’t Bobbys fault. These players have no heart and a cre less attitude while on the field. With the exception of Chipper, Smoltz, Tex, and Francouer, the rest of the team is just stealing money. I thought that we had a great team coming into the season. The Braves dissapoint me every year but this has been the worst. If I were John Smoltz I wouldn’t ruin my arm for a bunch of losers. Place the blame where you want but Bobby isn’t on the field playing.

By Corey

May 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Perfect example of why the Braves always choke in October. Close games require strategy, and strategy requires a competent manager. First, Cox pinch runs for Teixeira with no outs not knowing how many innings the thing could end up going. So, you lose his bat and in this case his defense. So, wouldn’t you know it, line drive goes off Prado’s glove the next inning while our gold glove first baseman is on the bench. That was an easy double play. Then, one of Cox’s all-time idiotic decisions, he let Acosta hit for himself with 2 men on. First of all, there is not a relief pitcher in baseball you should let do that who has already pitched 2 innings and walked 3. Plus, he just threw away a chance at an insurance run. Bobby Cox is a drunk and an idiot. Its time for a change.

By SideLineShow.com

May 1, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

The Braves are going to need a good dose of gertol before this year is out. They are too old the two biggest players on there team are a combine age of 75. Smoltz and Chipper Jones the Braves will win no more than 78 games. WWW.SIDELINESHOW.COM

By Corey

May 1, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Well, I picked em’ to go 86-76 this year and finish 8 games behind the Mets and 2 behind the Phillies. 86 wins is looking like a stretch now.

By Nelson

May 1, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Chop Chick: I have never read such a good comment like this before in this blog!!! I give you 100 points. And RAD yes indeed he lost the 12 before, not the last 12 games but the last 12 Post seasons. I well remember the game here against the Marlins when they lost the NL Campionship with the Marlins. He let Glaine take FIVE runs Having Smoltz in the pen ready to go, but he was saving Johny for the next day game but as you know THERE WAS No NEXT DAY GAME!!!.

By ChampDawg

May 1, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Booby Cox loves to micro-manage the bullpen. But what angers me is he refuses to do the same thing with the batting order and game management. His refusal to get ‘em over, and get ‘em in when we get runners on base just frustrates me… 2 men on and no outs and refusing to even try to move runners is just ignorant and bullheaded. Keeping a sub-.250 hitter K Joghnson) in the leadoff spot and the way he kept Andruw in the #3 or #4 or #5 spot last year was also just assinine. I love to watch his post-game interview. He’s got an excuse for everything. And another thing, I getting real tired of announcers John and Joe also making all kinds of excuses for this team.

By McFann

May 1, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

McCann…*Can’t throw out runners. Too many passed balls. * STRETCH

That really is a stretch, man. Let’s see…Passed balls: 0 (Yeah, that is too many. Dang!) No errors…hmm…most of his throws to second have been right on the money, but the runners had too good of jumps on him…He’s caught 20% of the runners. No, not exactly what the doctor ordered, but it’ll rise.

As for RISP, he’s batting .103. I don’t know WHAT is up with THAT!

Let it rise, my friend. Let it rise…

By monty

May 1, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

If it was a lack of talent that would be understandable. But these guys just refuse to win close games. Just unlucky? I don’t think so. Even if they had a .500 record in close games they would be OK. But to lose everyone of them? How does that happen? Failure in every facet of the game from coaching, timely hitting, and decent pitching in the clutch and playing good defense.THat’s how. Leo Mazzone was asked today on a sports talk show does all the one run losses get in their heads? He answered like a true politician or should I say coach, “No, a loss is a loss.” Yeh, right, Leo.

By tim

May 1, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

I’VE SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY AGAIN AND AGAIN. ROGER MCDOWELL HAS GOT TO GO HE WAS A BAD HIRE FROM THE GET GO. THE BULLPEN HAS BEEN A SHAMBLES SINCE HE CAME IN. YOU CAN BOBBY IS HANDLING THE STAFF NOT THE PITCHING COACH. WHEN LEO WAS HERE HE HANDLED THE PITCHERS. IT EARLY CUT HIM LOOSE BEFORE WE GET TO DEEP TO TURN BACK. AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE THE HITTING COACH TOO SHOULD BEGIN TO FEEL THE HEAT. TS

By nelson

May 1, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

The fifth starter job is often in flux for a lot of teams, but it seems the Braves need to figure out one more long-term starter for the year. The Braves do have some arms to bring up from Triple A, namely lefties Jo-Jo Reyes and Chuck James. Reyes has a 1.17 ERA in five starts.

In my opinion, the Braves need an innings eater if anything. Two trade possibilities come to mind: Joe Blanton and Kevin Millwood.

Another good spot that the Braves will look to is the Rays. With a crowded rotation and Kaz coming off of the DL the Rays need to make a move. Jackson and Howell are both doing well and are out of options. Neither would warrant a top tier prospect and would be able to eat 6-7 innings often.

By LuisGuillermo

May 1, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

(We should fire McDowell and Pendleton first) If Cox’s time to leave has come, who will replace him? The manager (don’t remember his name) of the Richmond Braves? I believe Jeff Blauser is a manager in the Braves’ Farm System, but is he ready? What about Larry Wayne Jones Sr as the Batting Coach and Bob Brenly as the Pitching Coach?

By Old Coach

May 1, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

Fire Cox and Hire Brian Snitker as Mgr. also hire Don Baylor as hitting coach and Guy Hansen as pitching coach. Fire Pendleton and McDowell.

By BA

May 2, 2008 12:56 AM | Link to this

I shudder to think people around the country are going to read this and think all our women are as stupid as chop chick. You must be that retarded woman riding three centimeters away from my bumper on 75. Why, with the excellent DOB blog, do we need this mouthbreathing tart?

By Bart

May 2, 2008 5:49 AM | Link to this

This column only deserves an eye roll and an “oh brother”….oh…maybe a head shake…

By uncle peepot

May 2, 2008 7:46 AM | Link to this

I agree, Bobby Cox make some bonehead moves.It is time for him to go and Terry Pendleton take over.Cox still ain’t figured it out yet,He needs to realize that it is time to put Smoltz back in the bullpen as the closer and Mike Gonzalez as the setup man,freom what I am reading and hearing that Gonzo is ready to come back,stop dealing with broken down arms like Soriano and put Smoltz back there after all he got 154 saves,how many does Soriano have? not that many.fill Smolts spot with Chuck James or via a trade if we can find a descent starter.with Smoltz and Gonzo in the bullpen we should be ok,get rid of this junk like Chris Resop and Royce Ring and bring back Phil Stockman with Smoltz and Gonzo TP when you become manager. TP we need you now. Come on Wren it is time to axe Bobby.TP is ready and waiting. Come on Wren,its time to s** or get off the pot,bring TP on board now as manager.

By Bo

May 2, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Uncle peepot- Why do you think TP will be next Mgr.? What has he ever done to deserve the job? No experience at all as Mgr. in major or minor leagues. He has interviewed for three Mgr. jobs and pulled out after finding out someone else was more qualified. Said his family was in Atlanta and wanted to stay here, if so why interview. Worked for Braves as hitting Coach last few years and players don’t listen to him, ex.. A. Jones and Frenchy, KJ and more. Not even good hitting Coach ,how would he be a good Mgr.?

*Brian Snitker was manager at Richmond and did outstanding job. All players know and respect him and he’s ready today. *

By First born will be named BC

May 2, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

You are wrong. Bobby Cox is an incredible manager. Always has been, always will be. He has the reins on this horse and he’s holding them tight. He knows more about the game and the longetivity of the team, the bullpen, and the entire staff then we should presume to know. Bobby is the mngr until he decides to hang it up.

My first born son will be named Bobby Cox. Enough said.

And for all you “fans” who bad mouthed the man who has taken us from 15 wins a year to 15 years a top the division, i say “ET TU, BRUTE”

By Rick Long

May 2, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

To all you Bobby Cox apologists criticizing the “younger” generation for being critical of him due to a lack of baseball knowledge, here is a 55 year old, 40 year old Braves fan who has said for years that Bobby Cox is one of the most overrated managers of all time.
I realize that most of his players and former players love him and that’s because he is a “player’s manager”. He does a decent job during the regular season, but is one of the worst strategical managers I have ever seen in the post season. I could go on for pages citing the ridiculous blunders Cox has made in the post season, most of which involve the same problem that is rearing it’s ugly head already this season-not knowing when to pull a starter and misuse of the bullpen. Do not accuse me of being a Monday Morning Quarterback, because my wife will confirm how I was screaming at the TV (not rationale I admit) BEFORE the decision was made to “get that guy out of there” Perhaps some of you old timers will recall the World Series against the Yankees where Glaving pitched with a fever over 100 degrees. Before the game starts, Cox declares that he would be satisfied with 5 innings out of Glavine. The Braves have a small lead and Glavine pitches 6 shut out innings. Not only does Cox send him out for the 7th inning without warming any one up when he goes out there, but doesn’t even start warming any one up after the Yankees start off with consecutive hits off him. Naturally, he leaves Glavine in to long, the Braves lose the lead and the chance to put a strangehold on the Yankees and then lose yet another World Series. I didn’t see the game the other night, but didn’t the Braves have a 1 run lead going into the bottom of the 12th? Why send Acosta out for a third inning when you have others in the pen who you have publicly said in the past could save games for you,if necessary?
I’m not saying Cox is a lousy manager, but stop with the love affair—he is a decent, but very overrated manager and kudos to a writer in Atlanta for having the guts to say so!

By Riles In Oregon

May 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

I have been watching the Braves since we got cable in the early 80’s. Being from Oregon and seeing Murph in the lineup made them a natural favorite. Two of my sons and I have agonized throughout the 90s and into the 21st century over them. I have been following baseball since 1957 and this much I know. I can predict every move that Bobby will make with his lineups during a game, including blowing through his bench and his bullpen by the time free baseball rolls around. Someone posted a few days ago that injuries are up since Leo has been gone. Could be coincidental or? Bobby does need a strong presence in the dugout to keep him from overmanaging. It may not be McDowell, it could be the revolving door of bench coaches. That guy is supposed to be the associate head coach and having a different one each year does not help. That is not the teams fault since Bobby seems to be good at mentoring coaches, but it still hurts. I guess these are not answers, but things to think about.

By BA

May 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Hey Rick Long, just because you’re old doesn’t mean you’re not a moron. Common misconception about old people. Look at Bisher. He’s at least as dumb as the mousey looking author of this blog.

By al simard

May 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

They talked Frenchy into taking more pitches and destroyed his first pitch hitting ability. He has no idea what the strike zone is. He is overrated because of his arm. He is an average fielder and lets balls drop at his feet and he can’t go back on a ball.

By Harry Rand

May 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

There are times when there is a reliever on the mound throwing a lot of balls and I just pray that he won’t leave him out there knowing he doesn’t have it now, that’s doing a disservice to you and the fellow pitching at the time. He’s out there knowing he isn’t going to be able to do it, after two walks get him out of there so you don’t scar a person that this happens to. Having been a pitcher myself those things have a tendency to stick with you.

By Santa3247

May 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

EXPELLIARMUS!!!!!!!crazy slave Bobby Cox!!!!!!!!!

May the force of Messiah be with Tom Glavine!!!!

By Jefferson

May 5, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

CC, you write like a lame reporter who landed in Atlanta because you could not get a job elsewhere. News Flash… the AJC will hire anybody to do sports. Since you are here, let me clue you in on a few obvious things.

One, Bobby Cox is one of the greatest managers of all time - period.

Two, most true Braves fans like Bobby.

Three, he has rightfully earned a place in history.

Four, he will go out of this game a winner, and be recognized by his peers (which is more important than reporters and fans) for his acheivements and contributions to the game.

Five, no whining NY wannabe fans and reporters can ever change that.

By bill

May 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

It is so easy to manage after the game is over, CC you and Terrance need to go out and have a beer in N.Y. , Oakland, Dallas anywhere but here and stay there, there are so many things go into each move a manager makes that most people do even know about. Having watched, coached and studied baseball for over 40 years I can tell you day in and day out Bobby is a master, no one is going to make the right move 100% of the time but there are few in history who have been as good as he has. 99.9% of people who actually understand the game will tell you just how good he is.

By Tony

May 7, 2008 4:53 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox for years have played out. He is still living on the one world series title. He nearly blew that one. This guy always seem to find him a DAN KOLB. This year it’s ROYCE RING and CHRIS RESOP. But through it all the BRAVES are still standing tall. With all the injuries to key personel, it’s truly amazing. This is a made for television sucess story.

By Dr. R

May 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Ridiculous. People who actually know baseball consider Bobby one of the greatest managers of his generation. Only football-minded emotional fans who don’t fully understand what goes on in a clubhouse think otherwise. Bobby frequently leaves a guy in that spot early in a season to see what he can do, which pays off later. He also believes in letting the players play the game instead of overmanaging, as do some overrated skippers. Besides, he doens’t have much talent to work with in that bullpen, and that’s not his doing. Three of his top guys out there are hurt, and there aren’t many teams that can overcome that. Lighten up, Chick. And show us the rest of your face; the half we see above the glove is kinda nice.

By Barrington Garland

May 14, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

I know baseball all you Bobby Cox nut-hugers. 2002-2005, all first round exits to the Giants, Cardinals, and Astros twice. 2000, swept in the first round by the cardinals. 93’, lost to the trash Phillies. Every year we lost in the playoffs we had the better team except when we were swept in 99’ by the Yankees. We choked away the 96’ World Series to the Yankees. Where is his great managing? One World Series in 14 appearences! The Braves could have did that with me managing. Late game fundamentals, terrible platooning tactics, and stubborness is the reason for the Braves severe under-achievement. Can anybody say we over-achieved, with three freakin hall of fame pitchers and a high payroll. Cox is indefensible and anyone who tries to stand up for this guy is blind. Get real! The only reason he is the 4th winningest manager is because he has been managing so damn long. He also has more loses than a lot of mangers too. This guy is easily one of the most over-rated figures in sports history.

By bamabrave

May 27, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

well it happened again ya gotta know huddy is gassed, take him out or let him bat for himself in the 8th when he is past his highest pitch count of the season bc is an idiot. been making great teams look average for decades.

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