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Braves’ bats taking a while to heat up

Everyone has been up in arms (pun intended) about the Braves’ pitching woes, and for good reason. It’s never a good thing to have so many aches and pains all at once, not to mention this early in the season.

But an argument can be made that pitching wouldn’t be the issue it is if the bats weren’t as cold as they’ve been. The Braves have outscored opponents 37-10 in their five wins (averaging 7.4 runs a game), but a whopping six of their eight losses have been by a single run. And all of them except the 12-11 loss to the Pirates in the second game of the season and the 5-4 loss to the Nats on Sunday could be characterized as pitchers’ duels, with the Braves averaging 2.25 runs in those games.

I don’t want to get too statistical — you can make numbers say almost anything you want — but there is something there. And that something is that it seems to be feast or famine so far this year.

While it’s possible that the guys have just run into some outstanding pitching, that’s not the most likely conclusion since those one-run losses came against the Pirates, Nats and Rockies. What’s more likely is that outside of Chipper Jones (who’s leading the league with a .415 average), they haven’t gotten into a groove yet for some reason — maybe weather or travel conditions? They’re hitting .312 as a team at home and only .232 away, with 37 RBIs in five home games vs. 27 in eight road games. Whatever the reason, they’re not consistently getting on base early in innings or coming through with clutch hits.

Tim Hudson, Tom Glavine and Jair Jurrjens have all had quality starts wasted (including Jurrjens’ effort against the Marlins in last night’s 4-0 loss) because the offense couldn’t get anything going, and a few of the bullpen’s missteps wouldn’t have been nearly as costly if a few more runs had been pushed across.

My theory is that they’ll be fine once the bats get started — Mark Teixeira isn’t going to hit .196 all year, Brian McCann will get his share of clutch hits, and Jeff Francoeur is not a .264 hitter (and here’s hoping Matt Diaz cuts down on those uncharacteristic strikeouts). That’ll give the pitching staff a little more breathing room, and it’s not like anyone’s running away with the NL East.

What do you think? Should Bobby Cox make any lineup changes to shake things up or should he stay the course?

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By geekboy

April 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

I blame Terry Pendleton. How can a player who changed his batting stance 2 or 3 times a week teach others to hit?

Fire Terry, bring in Chipper’s dad to coach. Then give McCann a day off and let Pena play.

Kotsay remains a bad joke … the misjudged fly balls were funny in spring training, but last night it cost us a run. And his bat is week. Give Anderson a shot, PLEASE!

And who thought Ohman was a better pitcher than Tyler Yates? GEEZ! Send him packing with TP!!!

By RAD

April 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

BRING BACK LEO

Have we made the playoffs without him? When he was here we had no run support but great pitching all around. When he left we get the run support and no bullpen. Now we can’t keep a pitcher on the mound. Rodger is just not cutting it… Leo is a much better pitching coach and it shows. Pay what we got to pay, bring Leo home.

By Bill in VA

April 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

I’ve played a lot of low level baseball & coached a lot of it too. Baseball is baseball and when there’s no hitting there are techniques I like to see used to shake the game up a little, like drop down a bunt or 2 straight bunts, to get the pitcher moving around and out of his groove. I wonder why I don’t see more of this in mlb. There’s other stuff too; Bobby knows!

By CS

April 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Why you blaming Pendleton? He hasn’t batted this year or last year. Blame these overpaid no producing hitters. With the exception of Chipper ain’t nobody doing squat.

By sprinkles

April 16, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

The problem with the Braves is that Bobby has too much loyalty to certain players whether they perform well or not. There are so many players who have talent and are hungry to play and they just sit on the bench. This is true in high schools, colleges and other pro teams too where coaches don’t take the time to get to know their players or give them a chance to prove themselves. Mark DeRosa who played on the Braves a few years ago is a prime example of this. He didn’t get much of a chance to play and showcase his talent. Now he is in Chicago, plays for the Cubs, has a great manager (Lou Piniella) that believes in him and the fans love him!

By Big Al

April 16, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Are you kidding, most players can’t even bunt. Besides, MLB players don’t do this sort of thing because it won’t get them fat contracts the next time they are up for renewal. Players loath sacrificing themselves for the good of the team; there is no money in it.

By LetsGoMets

April 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Maybe Jordan Schaeffer could play CF and bring his needles with him!

By Will

April 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

The problem is the Braves are just a sub-par baseball team and will not be making the playoffs. The pitching injuries they have already sustained are the kind of injuries that can cripple a great team, let alone just an above average team. Glavine will be hurt again, Smoltz will have shoulder problems, Hampton wont be healthy and you get the sense both Soriano and Moylan have serious elbow issues. I am a big braves fan, but i refuse to be delusional and think this team is gonna be ok cause its not.

By Waffle Boy

April 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

I’m not worried about the offesnse or the starters for that matter. Give Glavine some extra time and he will be fine.

Now the bullpen… Not to sound pessimestic but Moylan sounds like Tommy John is in his future, Soriano is going to need time to heal, and the rest of the guys just arn’t that good.

The Braves can still win it all but they need some help in the Pen ASAP.

By Waffle Boy

April 16, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

I’m not worried about the offense or the starters for that matter. Give Glavine some extra time and he will be fine.

Now the bullpen… Not to sound pessimistic but Moylan sounds like Tommy John is in his future, Soriano is going to need time to heal, and the rest of the guys just aren’t that good.

The Braves can still win it all but they need some help in the Pen ASAP.

By LetsGoMets

April 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Hudson & Smoltz and pray for rain.

By Susan

April 16, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

I said it was a bad idea to resign Glavine when he wanted to come back and I think i may be right. They should have traded for a younger starter. One who would stay the rotation next year with Hudson and Jurrjens. I just dont think Hampton, Smoltz and Glavine will do the job this year.

Now it looks like we are in the same shape with the same pitchers as last year. Hudson, and Smoltz and nothing left but Buddy, James, Jo Jo. Why they put so much stock in a 42 year old and Hampton is well beyond my thinking. We gave up the farm for nothing and nothing is what we have. Your also right when you say the hitting stinks. Its worse then the pitching. They did not think out the roation and and have a lineup that either tears it up or stinks it up. Right now its a stink party for sure.

By poorbrave

April 16, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Its time the blame went where it belongs to the Coaches. Hitting has been a problem for awhile, look at Aj he wouldn’t listen to Pendleton and the other player must not. Fire him and bring up Chris Chambliss from Richmond. Pitching Coach has been a joke since Leo. Bring back Leo or someone Maybe Hanson from Richmond. With all the injuries it sounds like you need to replace Frank Fultz, trainer. * Now the Biggie Fire Bobby Cox and replace him with BRIAN SNITKER. He can and will get the job done. Bet on it.* We all know Management won’t do anything, they happen to be mediocre and the fans don’t matter as long as they fill the seats. Frank Wren has alot to prove, yet. Best LF & Rf still in Richmond- Josh Anderson. It will be great when Rich-Braves move to Atlanta area so we can see some good baseball for a change. How many of you good people would run your business the way the Braves do.

Brian Sniker is the Man

By Chris

April 16, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Part of the Braves’ problem offensively is that the team doesn’t have one legitimate base-stealing threat. The Braves’ just don’t have the ability to manufacture runs when the bashers in the middle of the lineup aren’t producing. Solution? Give Josh Anderson a shot in CF. The guy can fly, provides a legit base-stealing threat, and would be a significant upgrade defensively over Kotsay.

By Chris

April 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Part of the Braves’ problem offensively is that the team doesn’t have one legitimate base-stealing threat. The Braves’ just don’t have the ability to manufacture runs when the bashers in the middle of the lineup aren’t producing. Solution? Give Josh Anderson a shot in CF. The guy can fly, provides a legit base-stealing threat, and would be a significant upgrade defensively over Kotsay.

By Bowie

April 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Nothing every changes but the names. No hit, no run, no steal, no bunt, no bull-pen, just wait on the Homerun. Great job Bobby! Keep the good old boys happy.

By Jason

April 16, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Has anyone thought maybe its time to make trade. Perhaps someone proven! A real leadoff guy? Maybe someone who can sleal bases? Remember when Lofton was in Atl, that was fun. I really thought Schafer was the next best thing since Lofton, but it turns out that he was “ok” on HGH. So whats he like normal? Trade for DeJesus, keep Kotsay and platoon Diaz so he can hit and stop Frenchy from swinging soo much. Hes due to hit 270 for the year the way hes going. They need clutch base hits with runners on not swinging for the fences everytime! In all …start doing something differnt so you can win and I can sleep!! Sad sad fan ..

By rekkidbraka

April 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Isn’t this par for the course for the Tomahawks, though? Early season hasn’t been when they play their best ball. Mid-May, they come around. Let’s just not see another June Swoon.

This is not to say that playing blah baseball early on is OK. Obviously, any team that’s winning more games than they’re losing throughout the season is going to have a better shot at the playoffs. Math always wins, guys.

By COACH K

April 16, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Well the bats will come and the pitching would be a non-issue if we were hitting. Top 3 in the lineup are always on base and Tex is killing us, he too will come around. Which brings me to the real reason I am venting. This team has no attitude or back bone. Frency should have picked his but up and flattened the first baseman for the shove. I don’t condon fighting but since Justice left what have we WON

By COACH K

April 16, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Well the bats will come and the pitching would be a non-issue if we were hitting. Top 3 in the lineup are always on base and Tex is killing us, he too will come around. Which brings me to the real reason I am venting. This team has no attitude or back bone. Frency should have picked his but up and flattened the first baseman for the shove. I don’t condon fighting but since Justice left what have we WON

By Bowie

April 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Jason, Loftons in Cox’s DogHouse so forget that. You got the man Josh Anderson if Wren would make the call.

By Bowie

April 16, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Top three always on base? Where have you been? Just Hoss.

By Eric

April 16, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

wishin’ right now that we would have ponied up and paid Ron Mahay what he wanted…

By Lee in S. GA

April 16, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

THERE is a first time for everything, geekboy I agree with everything you said.

By scott boras

April 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

i agree with geekboys venting! boy when are we gonna catch a break? when?

By Steve

April 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

I hate to talk about Braves coaching but I got to agree with some of the other fans on here. At least with Leo the pitching staff had some kind of strategy. Does the pitching staff have any strategy with Roger? I have just seen too many bad pitches thrown over the past few years. These guys are professionals and there should be no excuses for the bad pitching. I love Matt Diaz as a player but right now he is showing that maybe he is a better bench player? Our offense will come around soon and then we should be alright.

By JT

April 16, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Ohman Stinks don’t know how Bobby kept him, I guess because he’s a Left Handed pitcher.

By Truth

April 16, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

The Braves are good for two things: 1-Beating the Mets. 2-Folding in the post season. Now, tell me I’m lying.

By Leo Mazzone

April 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the late post guys - Roger is doing a great job, stop picking on him.

All the problems would be solved if the lineup would just get their sh!* together. If Tex and Diaz would just start getting on base, the starters would be more comfortable with their leads and the bullpen wouldn’t have to work as many innings (they lead the majors in innings pitched!).

The problem isn’t the pitching, it’s the bats! Bench Diaz for a few and put Blanco in Left. Heck, let Tex rest up and try Prado at first (he’s played first before).

Still got Love for the “A” - certainly don’t miss the pollen though!

By Blaine Boyer

April 16, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Boy, I’m glad we were off this past Monday.

Otherwise, I mighta had to add a new lyric to my lament:

The adipose mass inside my head

Gets switched from Hold to Blow.

And none’ll be left on base today,

I’m going to make them all cross home.

And Bobby doesn’t understand it,

He’s always said my arm was good as gold.

And he can see no reason,

Though it is the season —

It’s the season when I’m finally expo-oh-oh-oh-osed.

Tell me why?

I don’t like Mondays.

Tell me why?

I don’t like Mondays.

Tell me why?

I don’t like Mondays.

I want to shoo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oot

Some growth hormone.

By X braves

April 16, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

No speed, and no outfield thats why you suck, go to Buford Hwy and Bankhead and find some players of color with the above!

By RichmondBrave

April 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

WILL Tex come around??? How many times is he going to leave men at 1st and 2nd with no outs without moving them??? This season is getting old raelly fast. Frenchy had one good game and thats it… Mac is doing ok with no one is on base… Chipper is hitting well, but ONLY singles… Diaz looks like he is sleeping at the plate….please wake me when they start to play ball

By X braves

April 16, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

PLEASE CALL DALE MURPHY !

By Carroll

April 16, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Bobby’s loyalty is definitely disturbing. For instance, Torre has already moved AJ’s worthless arse to 7th and even benched him…don’t you just klnow that he’d still be batting cleanup for Bobby?

Enough belly-aching and hand-wringing over Ohman vs. Yates vs. Paronto vs. Resop…etc etc ad nauseum…they’re ALL a bunch of turds!! The biggest problem is that we are completely incapable of acquiring and devloping good arms—starting or relieving. For Chrissakes…even the Yankees and BoreSox—who haven’t sniffed a top 25 draft pick in a decade, and have consistently raped their farm system in order to acquire high price vets—seem to some how come up with these prized young arms every year or two. But when was the last time we developed/produced a legit MLB arm? Schmidt?

The offense is an inconsistent joke as it always has been because Bobby does not work his players like he should in spring. And he sits back and waits for the big inning rather than actually managing the offense. We apparently have no preparation and make no adjustments before during or after games, as evidenced by the fact that the same exact pitchers and types of pitchers regularly dominate our offense with the same tricks.

Bobby PLEASE resign or move up to upper mgmnt!!! After all, we have Bobby to thank for producing the 90’s dynasty for the work he did in the 80’s as the GM….but we also have Bobby to thank for blowing through 15 opportunities to win a championship, but failing miserably as mgr tghroughout the 90’s. it’s time for a new day!!!

By BOBBY COX`

April 16, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

LISTEN HERE PEOPLE!!!! Bobby Cox is not the problem!!!!!!!!!!!! First of all we are swinging for the fences and not trying to produce runs. Maybe Bobby could bench some players to get the point across but then we would have more losers such as gotay, pena etc playing and we would DEF not win then!!!! Bobby is not oout there hitting, so it is not his fault!!! NOW ALL YOU PEOPLE are hipocrits as well,, i remeber last year when bobby was going to break the record for ejections yall were up his butt talking about how much he does for his players, and how he protects and defends them!!!! BOBBY COX IS THE MAN, AND SNITEr STINKS!!!!!!!! COX FOR PRESIDENT 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEAse HOMES

By ManOfTeal

April 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Maybe the Braves just suck……I’m just saying…

Go Marlins!!!!

By gayle

April 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Way to go, Will. The fans who wish to buy Bobby’s baloney can continue to think and dream playoffs, but the reality is that this is just not a very good team. And it’s OK - it really is. It’s much better to field a strong team 3 or 4 years out of 10 then to put up a mediocre one every year.

There is no leadoff hitter, no base stealing threat, no solid center fielder, no veteran off the bench (Sorry Spezio - not this time) and we all know about the pitching.

Please - bite the bullet, quit the charade of the post season and start rebuilding! You don’t rebuild when two of your starters are over 40 and a third has not piched in almost 3 years.

By Will

April 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

The problem is the Braves are just a sub-par baseball team and will not be making the playoffs. The pitching injuries they have already sustained are the kind of injuries that can cripple a great team, let alone just an above average team. Glavine will be hurt again, Smoltz will have shoulder problems, Hampton wont be healthy and you get the sense both Soriano and Moylan have serious elbow issues. I am a big braves fan, but i refuse to be delusional and think this team is gonna be ok cause its not.

By Bobby's Cox

April 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bill in Va: Nice 11:56 post.

There’s other things you didn’t mention either, such as a hit and run to force your hitters to make contact.

Or unlike last night, a sac bunt after getting the 1st 2 hitters on base to avoid a double play or at deficit into a 1 run game. Yes, even as the road team and yes even with your #3 hitter. When the offense is stale, these things can at least get things going again. A 2 or 4 run deficit puts too much pressure on a slumping offense. Cutting the score to 1 run last night might have made guys focus a little more.

This team has to implement some sort of small ball to get the offense going. We need Andersen up here more than management knows. At least for late inning stolen base attempts or stolen base threats to put pressure on opposing pitchers. Our offense is hardly making opposing pitchers work. It’s sad.

These aren’t pro hitters we have on this team. Pro hitters would have a strategy, more plate discipline, be fouling off tough pitches & walk rather than lazilly grounding out after falling behind. Too many hitters on this team swing out of their shoes. They need to shorten their strokes & work on hitting the ball up the middle or in the gaps. This is ridiculous if TP can’t translate that message to his hitters. Can’t be a coach if no one listens to you.

By Brock

April 16, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

You know what grinds my gears?(family guy reference for those who don’t know) Bobby pulling relievers just because of the lefty/righty matchup. That crap is long gone. Leave a guy in, let him get out of some trouble and let him face some frickin batters righty or lefty. Bobby is the only professional mngr(use that loosely) that I know of that continues to do this. And then when a guy walks the bases loaded and walks 2 runs in what does he do? He leaves him in to finish. Hell, why didn’t just leave Jurjens in until he got 2 more runs on him. No difference except you keep wearing down your bullpen and guys have no confidence. You know what else grinds my gears? Roger McDufus. Get your hands out of your back pockets! What, you gotta scratch your a* everytime you go out to the mound. Must be it because you sure as hell ain’t coaching! AAHHHAAHHA!!

By Analytics Guy

April 16, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

No cause for concern Braves fans. the club still has a good run differential, and projects to win 93 games. That is, unless Bobby takes your advice and starts asking players to bunt.

By TT44

April 16, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

My Goodness,

As a great fan of baseball and of the Braves, I am so aggaravated with the TEAMS performance. Is there anyone on the team have the intestinal fortitude to fire up the squad. My goodness, it must be awful for the team to score 9 runs and loose the game. I tell ya, its the bullpen that is the achilles heel. That got the entire team depressed. And me too……that is why there is no hitting , everyone is having to swing for the fences each time. And, Bobby Cx relies on the long ball too dang much, hit and run, bunt,,whatever it takes, just win ,,,,PLEASE, somebody call Leaman Bennet to the rescue! Or Jerry Glanville, we need some excitement to this team. Hey Braves get pumped up and at least act like you dont like loosing….every one is so emotionless on the team, dang!

By Jack G

April 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Hitting and pitching have been problems for several years——-makes you wonder about the coaching, Also the managing.——time has passed Bobby. He just hasent kept up.

By PM

April 16, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

I can’t think of more than one year since Cox has been in Atlanta that they haven’t started off slowly, including most of their best years. Cox tests methods and combinations for the first few weeks. Don’t sweat it.

By richbrave

April 16, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

poorboy:

Both Don Baylor and Leo Maxxone are available. Let’s make a deal.

By scott boras

April 16, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

lose by 1 run again.. and we have yet to win by a run. i think thats 7 times now in first 2 weeks of season…(pulling hair). then we just miss 2 hrs..(throwing beer can)..3 double plays ..i cant handle this but we are better than this…right???

By chopperhobby

April 16, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

A bad team right now that doesn’t know how to win.It’s the middle of April and they are killing me already. I’m starting to have FOND memories of Andruw & Wickman - God help me!!

By Glen

April 16, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Its early in the season, but i dont think its ever too early to have some sense of urgency. Look at Detroit for example, you could see the angst in Jim Leylands face with every Tiger loss, he riled them up and now with this victory up and coming with against cleveland it will be 3 straight wins and you can see a little change in attitude and body language. I know that the Braves have injuries, a tough schedule, terrible luck what have you, but Cox has to keep this team glued together in the meantime while they get healthier because if not we saw a couple of years ago how a season can unravel quickly (6-21 month of june 06) titles are are not won in may but they can be lost, and even though its “early” this team has to get its priorities straight. Personally this team has the structure, the talent and the veteran leadership to be in the post season, i think the only team in the way of the Braves are the Braves.

By Reality

April 16, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Just face it, this team SUX …..

By harvey

April 16, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

]wish simpson would talking about kellys nice swing 3 more ks we need a lead off man. bennet sucks along with carlye,resop,ring and olman. thing its time fox to call it quits mister wrongly i call him brings pitchers to walk batters hitters to strike out.other guys bring in 42 yr old to hit homer please bring anderson up to see if he could lead off

By Shane

April 16, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

Heading south for next winter

By poorbrave

April 17, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

richbrave i agree on Baylor and Leo. What about Brian Snitker for mgr to replace clueless cox.

By bgnewnan

April 17, 2008 3:06 AM | Link to this

I have been watching the braves and i believe i can see more chemistry between Barack and Hillary.

By WILL

April 17, 2008 6:18 AM | Link to this

i told all you people when the season started this team would finish in last place,im right as usual,kind of strange isnt it tex in same kind of contract dispute like andrew was the result will be the same tex will have his worst year ever as a player wwhen this team has to fill the plane with geritol for the players because they are over 40 it is doom hudson,smoltz,glavine,soriano,moylan,and counting on a guy like gonzales in june they will be so far out of 1st place by june the only thing they will be looking for is there golfclubs,this team is nothing like the 90,s what you all are forgetting is these players now are much older,atlanta should have gotten,maddox back,or dan haren,itold all you peolpe that when arizona got haren they would win the world series,the upper class in this braves organization are not as good as you think,frank wren ,to the stupid owners arizona has stud webb,haren, r johnson and good young hitters,get it young the braves really sux it is helping me out i bet against them every day and bet on arizona iwill take my bank acct to the next level thanks to arizona, braves and the sorry hawks after boston sweeps there sorry carcasses,iam a braves fan but reality set in 3years ago and this team has gotten worse every year since chippeer hasnt even gone on the dl yet i told you all they would lose the opener in washington,lose 3of4 in colorado,the only game i got wrong so far is when atlanta beat santana but im way ahead and it will only get better for me until the braves get younger and with cox at the helm thats not gonna happen see ya losers.

By WILL

April 17, 2008 6:27 AM | Link to this

THIS TEAM S U X THEY HAVE MORE EXCUSES THAN OBAMA,AND MCCAIN COMBINED, IN COLORADO,IT WAS COLD,IN WASHINTON IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL STADIUM HAD THEM MESMERIZED IN ATLANTA ITS TO GOOD OF HOME COOKING,WHATS THE EXCUSE IN FLORIDA YOU PUT TO MUCH SUN TAN LOTION ON AND GOT A SUN BURN JUST FACE IT THIS TEAM IS OLD AND CRIPPLED UNTIL THIS TEAM GETS AN OWNER LIKE ARTHUR BLANK THEY WILL ONLY GET WORSE ITS NOT THE HITTING OR PITCHING COACH ITS THE PLAYERS THEY HERE ALL THIS CRAP ON HOW GOOD THEY ARE THEN THEY GET ON A FIELD AND REALIZE THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM DOWN THE STREET.

By WILL

April 17, 2008 6:43 AM | Link to this

IDONT EVEN WATCH THIS TEAM ANYMORE,ILISTEN ON THE RADIO TO PETE VAN WIREN YOU CAN HEAR THE FRUSTRATION IN HIS VOISE ISIT AND LISTENED TO LEMKE TALK LAST NIGHT ON HOW ALARMING IT IS FOR THIS TEAM TO LOSE SO MANY 1RUN GAMES GET IT THIS TEAM CALLED THE ATLANTA BRAVES IN 2008 ARE NOT ANY GOOD PERIOD THIS TEAM WILL BE IN 5TH 0R 6TH PLACE ON OTOBER 1 THE MARLINS HAVE A PAYROLL OF WHOLE TEAM FOR LIKE 15 MILLON ALL 27 PLAYERS AND THEY BEAT THE BRAVES 2OF 3 AND TONIGHT SMOLTZ WILL GO DOWN THEY WILL SWEEP ATLANTA THIS WEEKEND GLAVINE AND HAMPTON WILL STILL BE HURT SO CARLYLE,AND JO JO REYES YOU BETTER GREASE UP YOUR ARMS AS DUTY WILL CALL AGAINST THE DODGERS THEY WILL SWEEP ATLANTA TOO THEY HAVE A REAL MANAGER AND FORMER BRAVES WHO HAVE BEEN MISTREATED IN ATLANTA AND YOUNG PITCHERS OH YEA ALSO REALITY MONDAY THE BRAVES SAID THEY HAD A TRUE OFFDAY IT WILL HELP THEM OUT YEA RIGHT MORE EXCUSES IT ONLY HELP THEM GET THERE TAN BETTER IN FLORIDA EVERYTHING I SAY IS TRUE THIS TEAM IS AWFUL PERIOD GET READY FOR COLLEGE AND PRO FOOTBALL SO YOU ACN CRY SOMEMORE LOSERS OF ATLANTA

By tbo

April 17, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this

Oh well. As long as Bobby Cox is the manager the Braves will never get back to the playoffs. Have you noticed that when the starter goes out with the Braves down a run or two, the bullpen comes in and cannot hold them? Then what happens? The Braves muster a comeback that ALWAYS comes up a run short. Sickening.

By Kevin

April 17, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

hey folks its Bobby team Our coach who has choked more world series then connie mack R casey stengel..thank god they not related to Cox his is beatin wife at times!

By D.Ellis

April 17, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Mark it down….

  1. This team will not make the World Series as Gammons predicted and will NOT Make the playoffs for the 3rd year straight.

  2. This team is a %500 ball club.

  3. Matt Diaz is a liability in LF defensivly and is not that good of a hitter. I wold rather of had Wille Harris who adds a different element to the game with his speed…something Atlanta DOES NOT HAVE…. and better defense than Diaz. That was a mistake keeping Diaz and letting Harris go.

  4. K.J. is not a leadoff hitter, and has 2 walks to 10 K’s.

  5. 2 of our 5 wins have come against the Nationals.

  6. Despite injury the Pitching staff was A HUGE QUESTION MARK before the season started. We are relying on 2 guys who are only going to win 13-15 games at best…GLAVINE AND SMOLTZ. Who cares about chewing up innings and GIVING you a chance to win. Go get some guys that chew up innings AND WIN. Hampton???? Are you serious???? We where banking on a guy who has not pitched in almost 3 years to help???/ To help do what????? CHEW UP INNINGS??? Again find some fireball aces and winnders to promote or bring in via free agency.

By Yehuda Hamer

April 17, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Hudson just had a bad gmae. Pitchers have that from time to time. So, there is no need to panic. The Braves made the game interesting again when the score was 6-5.

By Yehuda Hamer

April 17, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

Hudson just had a bad game. Pitchers have that from time to time. So, there is no need to panic. The Braves made the game interesting again when the score was 6-5.

By RB

April 17, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

When the Marlins win the division AGAIN! It will expose the big money ball players. Also, it’s too late now to ask Bobby to retire, but someone should have at the end of last season. I think the players no longer respond to him.

By richbrave

April 17, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

poorboy:

Saw him here in Richmond as the manager some years ago. A good man. I like the current manager here Dave Brundige. He can get it done as well. Actually had forgotten what a great manager Brian was. Either/or would do a good job.

Bobby’s Cox:

Don’t get me started on David O’Brien’s fav boy and motorcycle buddy. TP may be a down and rightous dude, but I’ve been questioning the Braves decision to have him as batting coach since it happened.

Don Baylor is the only really effective hitting instructor I’ve seen the Braves have in the past ten years. But he tried to change Chipper’s approach to the game and Wayne and Larry didn’t like it. Consequently Don’s gone, and Chip hits his way. Which is also pretty dammed good.

I’ve never bashed Bobby Cox. I think he’s a great manager, but all the great ones pass their prime. There’s a solid book on Cox and what he will do in any circumstance. And the older one gets the more intrenched one line of thought becomes. Eventually, it is your mantra and all your opponants can count on that response in a given situation.

Its definitely time for some fundamental changes in the managers approach to the game. If Bobby can’t or won’t alter his approach with the staff anf players then it may actually be time for a managerial change to occur. But change rarely happens when it’s due. So I suppose we’ll roll on with BC adhering to the line that all’s been well before in these circumstances and will be again. I hope he’s right. But there’s also an old expression - “There are none so blind as those who will not see.” Time tells the truth, and fans are just along for the ride.

And WILL. Behave, or we’ll give you that pill we reserved for Bill last week. As soon as you come off that frustration high, what solutions can you provide? The suggestions that Bill in Va made are excellent. And the comments about it not securing a big fat $$$$ contract are also true. A conundrum. A little help?! A life preserver. We’re drowning here.

By LivininAL

April 17, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Im a Braves Fan…But they Suck right now!! Go Braves!!…Just thinking if Larry Bowa were manager ..Think he would have been arrested for assaulting a player by now?.

By ManOfTeal

April 17, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Um, the Marlins have never won the division. They have won the Wild Card twice and two World Series in the 15 years they have existed. The Braves, on the other hand, seem to think that the way to play baseball well is to make the playoffs 14 times but only win the whole thing once. Pathetic.

Go Marlins!!!!

By Chopper

April 17, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

I do think Bobby needs to shuffle the lineup a little bit. If for nothing else, just to change what has not been working. I have never liked Kelly Johnson in the leadoff spot. He does not draw enough walks. I’d like to see Escobar leadoff. Kotsay would be a decent number 2 hitter as he is a great contact hitter. Also, why is Diaz playing every day? I can see playing him 2 out of 3 games but every day? He would be a great weapon off the bench late in those one run games that we are losing. I wish Bobby would give Blanco a little more playing time or if he has no faith in him, send him to Richmond and bring up Josh Anderson. He can leadoff when he plays.

Escobar Kotsay Chipper Tex McCann Francoeur Diaz Johnson Healthy pitcher

By justin

April 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Agree for the most part, but let me say this. What you say about Tex not being a 167 hitter, we said about Andruw all last season. I know everybody thinks Tex isn’t gonna do the same thing, but he’s doing exactly what Andruw did last year. He’s flying open and trying to hit everything out of the park and not swinging and good pitches and swinging at bad ones. Hopefully he can come out of it, because we know how bad it can be to have your cleanup man not hitting.

On the topic of Andruw, are you excited to see him back in Atlanta this weekend?

By Santa3247

April 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Now PRESIDENT and GM are trying to deal again. Deal again. Farm Systems exist just for selecting their friends, but they need really good players a little for management of team.

They are not believing in their own farm system.^*^ Continuously fetch other players and expel good prospect like Mattew Esquivel and Eric Campell. And furthermore, they are blocking players like Phillip Stockman and Daniel Smith and Michael Nix ETC.

And they sold out the Jamey Richmond secretly. Sent Adam RaLoche for Mike Gonzalez, why? the requeast from their friends. But, the friends failed to success and they sold Jarrod Saltalamaccia and Elvis Andrus for Mark Teixeira for only 2years.

Theseday, they are trying to conceal their lies about players. “Brandon Jones is corner outfielder” What’s corner outfielder? ^^ In last year, PRESIDENT said “Brandon Jones will follow Andrew Jones” But this year, they attacked Brandon Jones through Media on spring training. Jordan Shafer? single A? Medicine power?^^

Gregor Blanco? if he would play at Major, his reality would revealed and Cox are not using him at all.^*^ Brandon Jones is ten-times wonderful player than Blanco, he was the best in Minor of Braves.

Because Brandon Jones can fill the hole of Andrew Jones, babylon are blocking him. His arm is best in minor, his slugging percentage is No.1 and his best weapon is power of getting RBL, the weakes point of Andrew Jones.

Andrew Jones’s defect came from insufficent of minor league experience. Low .avg, Weakness at chance, furthermore he was weak at babylon. In the worst season of Braves, A.Jones hit 51HR. Why? How? Because Babylon didn’t border him. You got it? ^*^

May the force of Messiah be with you

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