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Mets Hair Flub For Men

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Huddy pulls off this look MUCH better.

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. Like this “Mets shave their heads in show of solidarity” bit.

A show of solidarity. In MAY?

My colleague here at ajc.com/sports nailed it, saying, “So the reigning NL East champs ALREADY need a show of solidarity and they had to resort to buzz cuts? Little insecurity up there in New York, huh?”

Apparently. Just a little.

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Let us now sally on over to Stats Street, where we see that Hotlanta is, as of this writing, leading the division by a half-game. The NYJV Squad was idle Thursday so there is that little “gimme” for them.

Braves numbers

Home — 13-7. Away — 9-5. Division — 14-8. Streak — Won 3.

Mets numbers

Home — 7-7. Away — 14-5. Division — 11-9. Streak — Won 2.

A couple of stats should get Braves’ fans antennae pinging like crazy. We’re doing well at home AND away. The Mets can’t stay away from Shea enough (really, who can blame them?) and when they’re home in the Fiendly Confines they’re .500. We? Are beating teams in our division, which in this era of the unbalance schedule is a must to make it into the postseason. They? Aren’t.

Usually, anything I hear on ATL sports radio goes in one ear and out the other because it’s just professional talkers talking. But this insight about the 2007 Braves has some gravitas (as does this team). “It seems like this year, every little thing, every inning means more to these guys than it did to the 2006 Braves,” the host said. And I have to agree.

This team is obviously better put together than last year’s bunch and our bullpen is vastly improved. But the biggest difference that I see on the field is Frenchy’s willingness to wait for his pitch or not try to always be the Swing For The Fences Hero of his rookie half-season; Hudson’s admitting that he wasn’t fully prepared last year and that’s not acceptable; Willie Harris making the most of a call-up, becoming a fan fave for his gritty play. If you ever saw him playing with the ChiSox when they won the World Series, you know what he can do.

We’re a half-game up and in this NL East race because of the little things. Excelling at them is always a big deal, even if it doesn’t seem like it. Hard work brings about success.

Our team’s solidarity “gimmick”? The oldest trick in the book: We want to win.

And we’ll look great doing it, hair and all.

FIELD TRIP! LET’S TAKE THE PARTY TO METSBLOG.COM, Y’ALL

Since, as the Queens’ fans say, “fair’s fair,” let’s all go comment on the blog that made Chop Chick famous. Post YOUR comments about the Mets, their shorn noggins and how the Braves rock right here.

You’ll have to create a login to comment (“fair’s fair” — we ask folks to do the same on our AJC blogs) but y’all should see what they’re saying about us. Is most of the talk about baseball? No. They’re indulging in redneck stereotypes about the South, etc., etc. We had fun on this blog with the haircut thing, stoking a little good old-fashioned divisional rivalry fire in the name of baseball, and for that we’re called rednecks, racists, “a culture who think Donny and Marie Osmond are America’s sweethearts …and that cousin Jenny would make a fine looking wife.” And then there’s the brilliant, insightful comment that Atlanta fans are to be chastised for “basing your team on the genocide of an entire continent of people, complete with stereotypical “indian chops” by a bunch of rednecks whose ancestors slaughtered said “indians.” Note: Thank your Boston buddies for the name “Braves,” NYJVers. Milwaukee inherited it and then it came to us.

Oh, and here’s a little history lesson for Mets fans, thanks to the NYC.gov website:

“The first director-general of the Manhattan Colony was Peter Minuit. One of his goals was to purchase Manhattan Island from the Indians. The island was eventually purchased; however, Peter Minuit was recalled since there appeared to be some evidence that he was partial to a group of farmers who were bent on fur smuggling. The new director-general was Wouter Van Twiller. During his regime, a church, a sawmill, and a bakery were constructed. And at the same time, he furthered his own interests by purchasing from the Indians: Welfare and Governors Islands. He was replaced byWillem Kieff. Fur smuggling and his taxation of the Indians were his worst problems. The Indians and the Dutch began a slaughter episode. The Dutch were almost helpless since they were greatly outnumbered. An English mercenary, John Underhill and his paid followers carried out a merciless slaughter of Indian tribes. The latter finally sued for peace which began in August 1645.”

I guess Peter Minuit’s stealing Manhattan Island from the Shinnecock — or Canarsee; historical accounts vary — in 1626 for $24 is OK since the Mets have a good team this year. And it’s cool to overlook that little “merciless slaughter of Indian tribes” part, as well as the taxation bit. Give them $24 and take it back with accrued interest, like smuggling and paying the English to do your dirty work when you can’t buy off the tribes anymore.

Classy show, Mets fans. Really classy.

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By eric the elder

May 11, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Maybe the Braves should threaten Craig Wilson with an unsolicited buzz cut if he doesn’t contribute something. Even a foul ball would be a sign of progress.

By bclontz

May 11, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Just have to wonder, why Pendleton can’t get hitters to follow his lead? He admits that Andruw doesn’t listen to him! Why can’t Bobby step in and say ” stop falling down at the plate, or I’m gonna put you on bed rest”….I think Andruw needs a couple of days to sit back and decide whether he’s gonna play Bobby ball or watch from the dugout! He’s too good a player to be swinging like he has been….Sure, he’s always gone for the sucker pitches, but now it’s like “I’ve gotta hit it out”….Let Willie go to center field for a few games….Just wondering, hoping, and trying to get someone else’s opinion….Go Braves

By Lee

May 11, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Eric the Elder I will go along with that comment.

This actually makes me think more of Reyes as a baseball player. Of course when you are the team’s MVP you can do what you want to do. Otherwise, Mets are stupid for doing this.

GO BRAVES

By Ryder

May 11, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Goes to show you that the Braves are already in the head of this Mets’ team. So much for being the big bully on the block. Let them shave their heads while the Braves will keep on winning.

By Kat

May 11, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Hahahaha, great post, Chop Chick. I have been sick in bed for a few days so this was the first I had heard about the Baldymets. You know girls all over the country are sobbing about that picture of David Wright…

anyway, GO BRAVES!! there’s no better show of solidarity than WINNING!! :)

By barber0895

May 11, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

WOW…this is fantastic! The MUTS are scared in May..all we can do is win, win,win! Bet Tommy G wishes he were a Brave now..wonder what he is thinking?

By METS FAN

May 11, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Seriously, I hate the Braves, but I do respect what they have done. How can you not. However, the Mets are 1/2 game out and WRIGHT AND DELGADO have yet to get going.

It should be a fun race, but I do believe the Mets will pull through and win the division probably by 5 games atleast.

By Metsfan123

May 11, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

You Brave fans really must be desperate if you’re resorting to criticizing the Mets based on hairstyle. You need anything to draw away from the fact that your team didn’t even make the playoffs last year.

By auburn gal

May 11, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

I wish the Muts Fans would stay off of our blog. Now the Muts look just like the creeps they really are.

By TS

May 11, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

Insecurity? Pot, meet Kettle.

p.s. If you don’t mind, please cover up the rest of that ugly mug with the tomohawk. TIA

By Bob

May 11, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

Metsfan123,

You are really funny dude. Desperation is cutting your hair in May. You guys finally win one division championship in two decades and you think the Braves fans are desperate? You guys may very well win the Division again this year because you clearly have the talent to do so. The problem is that you are always the second rate team in your own city and the second rate team in your own division.

By storstark

May 11, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

“draw away from the fact that your team didn’t make the playoffs last year…”

Funny hearing Mets fans rib Braves fans for that since last year was the first year since I was eleven that the Braves weren’t there. I’m 27 now. That’s also 14 division titles to your ONE during that span and our world series rings are about a decade newer than yours. Suck it. Enjoy your one penant while it lasts. At least you have a shot at the wild card again.

By cb

May 11, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

relax Brave fans, the Met players wanted to have some fun. This was a sign of unity, if the mets were all that desperate we would have signed a 44 y/o pitcher for 28 million.

By Dan

May 11, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Try selling out a post-season game…then you can talk. I’ve been to several games at Turner Field…talk about lame fans! Tomahawk Chop…are you kidding me???

By metsrule

May 11, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

omg you guys do a friggin arm chop and you think we’re lame?? OK then…

By barber0895

May 11, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

jose…jose…jose…jose lame anyone?

By ohwhatthe

May 11, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

14 Division Titles.

1 World Series.

4 Straight 1st round playoff losses.

Good Job.

By phym

May 11, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

think everyone is reading too much into the head shaving. Wright did it first and the rest seemed to go along for the fun of it….I really don’t think they did it to prove solidarity. Anyone who watches the mets fairly regularly can tell you that there was solidarity in the locker room long before the shaved heads. Chalk it up to what guys just having a good time…

By ChampDawg

May 11, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Andruw doesn’t give a rats @$$ about getting advise from Terry P or anyone else. Andruw’s gonna do what Andruw wants to do. Period. That’s why his 3 cheeseburgers a day lame @$$ will be on another team next year. He knows it, Terry P knows it, Cox knows it, and we all know it.

By Mike

May 11, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Just curious, why the heck are mets fans reading the braves blogs in the first place?…Im a huge braves fan and I certainly don’t waste my team reading NY Mets articles. As far as the division goes, its up in the air who is going to win it. The mets and braves are evenly matched from top to bottom and I think its going to come down to starting pitching, clutch hitting, and management(the bullpens are pretty much even). As far as starting pitching goes The Braves have two aces, one who arguably is the best big game pitcher that ever lived. The other three pitchers in the rotation are question marks but if chuck james starts to pitch similarly to last year and if davies has more outings like he did against the dodgers the braves rotation will be far superior. Glavine is a quality pitcher but hes not an ace anymore. Maine has been very good but reality will sink in sooner or later. As for Pedro being a factor, look how Hampton responded to the same surgery and its no contest who the better athlete is among the two. If hampton couldnt recover I seriously doubt Pedro will. The braves also have far superior clutch hitters led by Renteria, Mccan, Francouer, and Chipper. And do we even need to compare the managers? Come on guys. There is no question the Mets have a great team, maybe even better than last year, but the only weak spot last year(the bullpen) has been completely fixed and the Braves overall are a little bit better. That showed in the first two series that were played between the two teams. The braves outplayed and out classed them then and they will do so all year long.

By Fred34

May 11, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Muts fans kill me. They win 2 division titles in 21 years and they think they are new king of hill. Please. If it weren’t for the outragous salaries they’re paying, they would racing the Nationals this year. Hey Muts, try an 80 million payroll and see where you end up… Any idiot can buy a team of superstars and contend.

By cp

May 11, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

So this Atlanta Braves blog has resorted to this soft of post to belittle a division rival? Add to that the rabid Braves fans who refer to the Mets as the “Muts” and I think you guys are stretching a bit. I wonder where all these Braves fans are when playoff time comes around… I see a ton of empty seats during a Braves playoff game which you would never see in a playoff game in New York. I guess we just have different kinds of fans.

By Bob

May 11, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

CP, For a Met fan to talk about others belittling a team is hysterical. Try being a visiting fan at Shea dude.

Also, despite a metropolitan population 5 times that of Atlanta, the Braves have outdrawn the Mets 11 of the past 15 years. In that time the Braves have drawn 3 million 6 times while the Mets could only manage it last year. Your absolutely right about our failure to fill Turner Field for playoff games, but the Mets are the last team that should talk.

By RK

May 11, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Hey did you ever hear of clubhouse humor? That’s what shaving the heads was about. There 21-12, you really think and 5-2 on the recent road trip, you really think they were desperate for solidarity? I understand you guys are grasping at straws because your run of greatness is coming to an end but please give me a break. Try selling out a few playoff games and come talk to me about Mets fans.

By jamie

May 11, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Holy cow, what a moron…the Braves have one less loss in the division, and the same number of losses at home (and played five more there), and that’s your argument to the Braves’ “superiority”? So pathetic.

Why are Mets fans reading Braves blogs? Why are Braves blogs posting polls about the Mets’ haircuts? I’m sure a fascinating piece about their jocks will be next.

And yeah, poor ATL spending “only” 80 million, with one of the largest regional broadcast markets in the country. (I’d say “fanbases”, but everytime I tune in, there’s no one in the stands.) Maybe the owners are spending too much capital manfacturing big dumb foam tomahawks.

By Dave

May 11, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Mets fans aren’t really thinking about the Braves too regularly these days. We respect them, and know they are a great team who will be tough to beat…but we are concerned with the Mets taking care of their own business. When the Mets fans were a more insecure bunch, they’d resort to silly tactics like criticizing Braves players for haircuts. Interesting to see how the tide has turned so quickly.

By Dave

May 11, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Oh, and the reason we’re commenting is because this “Chop Chick” piece was mentioned on metsblog.com. You guys should check it out. Obviously, all teams have silly, ridiculous fans, but this gives a pretty good sense of how the average, more down to earth than you realize Mets fan thinks about the game…

By Bob

May 11, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

RK and Jamie,

You clearly need glasses guys. Since 91 the Braves have drawn almost 46 million fans. During that same period the Mets have drawn almost 35 million fans.

For sure the Braves have not drawn as well as they should have in the playoffs. Then again, the playoffs are such a rare occaision for you guys that I can understand the excitement it causes in the Big Apple. And if you haven’t seen anyone in the stands at Turner Field, I would suggest you see an optometrist pretty quick.

By Dave

May 11, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Last comment - what’s with the implication that Jose Reyes being the “fashion plate” is lame? He’s a young, good looking, well-dressed, fun-loving guy. I hope there is an explanation other than his ethnicity.

By RA

May 11, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

As people are throwing out irrelevent history:

NY Mets 2 World Championships Atlanta Braves 1 world championship (and 4 losses choke, and you cant throw in the Milwaukee or Boston Braves)

Thats all that matters.

The Braves have a good team, win another WS and then lets hear the crowing

By Jamie

May 11, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Bob-

Ok, you got me: there are people who go to the regular season games. Well done.

By RA

May 11, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

“I hope there is an explanation other than his ethnicity.”

I wouldnt hold my breath on that one

By Mets

May 11, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

Guaranteed if the Mets had a string of that many division titles they would have been drawing 3+ mill a season, every season. They drew 2.8 in 2005 even though fans didn’t have any real expectation they were going to win. 2006 popped well over 3 million. My point?

Apples meet oranges.

No team with actual baseball fans would have ANY trouble drawing for any post season game, period. The only place this has happened in the modern era is Atlanta. Not the Twins and their minuscule fan base nor the Tigers, white sox or Astros.

Not selling out post-season games is unforgivable and you should all be ashamed of the fan base. disgusting.

Oh and as for regular season? Lets see the numbers when Atlanta ISN’T winning title after title.

By Toasty Joe

May 11, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

This whole post and many of the comments are really laughable. The fact that the writer, and most of the Braves fans who have commented, see the Mets fun and silly idea to shave their heads as a show of desperation after a 5-2 road trip and a 21-12 record is laughable. The fact that the writer thinks the Braves are playing so much better than a team that’s tied with the Braves in the loss column is laughable. The fact that the Braves couldn’t sell out a playoff game if you unloaded a fleet of 1,000 buses in front of the Ted and offered free tickets and beer for all is laughable (and a bit sad). And, yes, the fact that a fan base (at least the ones who show up to the games) that sits there comatose for 3 hours while doing the most monotonous and uncreative (not to mention borderline racist) chant known to mankind is going to lecture the Mets for being “lame” is not only laughable, it’s hysterical. Oh, my sides…

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

I get so sick and tired of you pathetic mets fans showing up on a Braves blog,find yourself something to do,besides come here and wish and have wet dreams about your stupid Mutts!!! when you earn 14 division championships in a row then spew your trash talk otherwise unyil you morons prove it your just a one hit wonder,a fluke,and your quickly becoming a JOKE!!!get a life and get the hell outta here!!!

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

David Wright looks like he just entered a youth detention center,what a dumba$$,Jose Reyes is the only sane player on the Mutts roster,at least he is real,a homegrown talent and as of right now grossly underpaid,maybe when Andruw Jones snubs you this winter some culture shock will sink in and you will realize you can’t buy everything Yankee ball you make me sick

By JP

May 11, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Wow. All this ruckus over a couple guys supporting their slumping teammate. ToastyJoe summed up the absurdity of this webpage beautifully.

I, along with other Mets fans, read the ABJ sports page because I follow along with more than just my team as a fan of baseball.

I’ll admit this is the first time I’ve read this blog (and it seems a little immature to be criticizing a team’s clubhouse fun when you’d never meet the credentials required for access to a clubhouse).

Calling a head-shaving “desperate” and “insecure” is reading a LITTLE much into some road trip shenanigans.

Fred34, Amazing how you talk about payroll NOW considering Atlanta had the biggest payroll in the division MORE TIMES than the Mets since you joined the East (1994-2000 ATL, 2001-02 about equal, 2003-present Mets)

By Joey

May 11, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know there was a certain time of the year when you were supposed to show team unity…Is it June? July? It’s kind of sad that the braves fans are this worried about the Mets hair cuts…You would think such a racist organization’s followers would like the skin head look…Jesse Jackson been around the park lately?

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

When the Braves payroll was at that level jerk,it was there because it was a forced action to keep pace but then something happened (no not Time Warner )the Florida Marlins happened,first of all the Marlins kicked a bunch of New York a* and earned themselves a Wo9rld Series title,with a miniscule payroll albeit!that coincides with John Schuerholz realizing home grown talent is just as good if you draft correctly and the bottom line doesn’t suffer.

By help-a-rascal

May 11, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this

when you guys stop playing out of your minds and our two biggest run producers get rolling, what exactly will be your spin then? do you really think that this is the level of baseball you braves fans can expect for the remainder of the year? do you really think we are playing even to our most modest capabilities?

oh, and really, do you guys want to get into a “who’s more lame?” contest? that tired-a* chop, your announcers being the biggest cornball homers in baseball, bragging about all those division titles while winning the series once………..probably not. time for a william tecumseh sherman day at shea.

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

Lemme see in the Mutts clubhouse you have a nonpatriotic !b that isn’t hitting his weight hmmm,sounds like old man syndrome to me,3b seems to be a late sophomore jinx,and let’s not forget that ancient pitching staff,how long before the smoke and mirrors catches up with you guys NOT LONG!!! hahhahahaha.

By serbok

May 11, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

what was the braves team batting avg last year? How many homers did the team hit? Chipper didnt even play 140 games~ Did the muts beat the braves in any statistal hitting categories last year? Tke a look at the numbers and compare them // now with that said the braves have arguably the best pen in BB// two of the best starters// with all kinds of pitching potential to follow~ I agree the hair thing is just shennanigans~ Braves will prevail as usual~ :o)

By help-a-rascal

May 11, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

joebrave— “nonpatriotic?” do you mean “unpatriotic?” by the way, delgado is a classy individual. besides his numerous charitable efforts, he’s a man who disagrees with the orgiastic flag-waving and jingoistic bloodlust that led to the current colossal c.f. in iraq.

By MetsFan

May 11, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this

Delgado is not an American citizen. So I dont expect him to promote our country. Help-a-rascal, we are Americans. Not every battle is easy. You have to see things through. If the Mets had that courage we would quit anytime we dont bat around in the 1st.

By ApeMetDujeous

May 11, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this

Yeah, the Mets are feeling REALLY insecure with their 22-12 record and 5-2 road trip. Yup. They’re feeling really insecure with their league-leading team ERA and BA. They’re feeling really insecure about the Braves, who have played many more games at home then the Mets but are only a half game ahead. They’re feeling really insecure about a team who’s run differential is around +20, compared to their own run differential of around +60. They’re feeling really insecure about having April’s pitcher of the month and player of the month. You’re so right.

By JP

May 11, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this

“When the Braves payroll was at that level jerk,it was there because it was a forced action to keep pace.”

Right, because you didn’t bring in any high-priced guys in the 90s. (Maddux, McGriff, Deion Sanders, Pendleton, Bedrosian, Grissom, Lofton, Neagle, Galarraga, Weiss, Jordan, Hunter, Mulholland, Boone, Hernandez, Ashby, Reggie Sanders).

Your team has spent to win, and they’ve also spent wisely to win. And now we’re spending wisely to win. Resorting to a payroll argument makes you look insecure and ignorant.

As a Mets fan, I have no reason to be insecure: I know we have a good team now, and I know your team stomped on my team for a decade. We made bonehead decisions and finished behind an organization who’s leadership I respect. Notice how Mets fans mock your playoff fan support, your Hooter’s mistresses, your ignorant redneck RP from a few years back, your incorrect and lazy assumptions with regard to your string of division titles, and of course, your longstanding tradition of cultural insensitivity mocking native americans. But not your GM. We respect John Schurholtz and what he’s done.

This blog post caught our attention for mocking our team’s clubhouse chemistry. You’d love to have 25 guys who would shave their heads to support one another.

Instead of wondering why we’d read a blog post about OUR team, maybe you should question why your Chop Chick is writing about OUR team instead of YOURS on her page; and if this post was any indication of her blogging ability, why AJC ever gave her a blog in the first place.

By jed

May 11, 2007 10:22 PM | Link to this

Yall see my boy Thor rack that pitch off the wall? Go Thor!

By jed

May 11, 2007 10:29 PM | Link to this

(Of course, that was a fat pitch he got from a RHP. And you noticed how awful he looked against the LHP in his next at-bat. Plus, a good 1b would have had the ball that went past him for a double the inning following his hit…but he did hit that softball and he did knock in a run, so, yeah, Go Thor!) I know…I’m brutal…I shall cease and desist picking on him. I do hope he never happens across one of my posts…just cause I’m critical doesnt mean I’m not pulling for him.

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 10:31 PM | Link to this

Metsfan,I know we haven’t seen eye to eye in the past,but from this moment forward you have earned Joebrave’s respect, opinions change in a fleeting moment and I will never again mention you in my disdain toward Mets baseball!! now you know what’s next so what I say next does not include you sir for you have showed me you are a class act!!!

By jed

May 11, 2007 10:31 PM | Link to this

Now, you wanta know who truly sucks? Clemens and Schilling!

By RealBaseballFan

May 11, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

I guess anyone can get a gig at an Atlanta paper. Seriously, talk about reading way to much into some stats. And making fun of David Wright’s unibrow? Let’s see a pick of the Chop Chick. All’s fair…

Lotta activity on this page. I guess there’s nothing much to do when there isn’t a race on (I love them there fast cars goin’ round in circles…vroom vroom!).

By joebrave

May 11, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this

and j.p. there is a big gap between 100 mil payroll and 200 mil payroll,so keep playing Yankee ball little boy!!!!!!!

By help-a-rascal

May 11, 2007 11:43 PM | Link to this

wow joebrave, the mets payroll is $200 million? with your command of the facts, i’m guessing you weren’t on the debate team. too busy with 4-H or Kx3?

By gotigers72

May 11, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this

Calling the Braves a racist organization is ridiculous. The Braves had the first African-American GM, Bill Lucas. How many African-American Gms have the mets had. Only Omar, but I dont’ think he’s African-American. Atlanta had an African-American pitching coach, Bob Gibson, several Afican American hitting coaches, Pendleton, Chambliss, Clarence Jones. So we have only one African-Americasn player this year, the Braves record in this area is impeccable. The fact that the Braves have always put the best TEAM on the field is undeniasble, based on 14 straight division champioships, unmatched in any sport.

How many African-Americans do the Mets have this year, 1, 2? Whatever, it’s not that many more than the Braves have. Damion Easley is the only one I can think of, so right now each team has one.

Don’t throw stones if you live in glass houses.

By veritas

May 12, 2007 12:33 AM | Link to this

umm…Willie Randolph…the mets head coach…yeah he’s African American…forgot about that one? than there’s Jerry Manuel, and Lastings Milledge and Ben Johnson.

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 12:52 AM | Link to this

My did Laroche look good tonight,it does look like a great trade for the Braves!!!

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 1:07 AM | Link to this

I stand corrected on the Mutts team salary it’s 101mil,still win it on the field JP and all the guys you mentioned were acquired by trade with the only exception being Maddux,Jordan and Sanders,look it up!!!

By Chop Chick

May 12, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Actually, I do have a clubhouse credential. And all the personal attack fan-on-fan parts of the blog are now going to be deleted. Make fun of me all you want — I don’t really care — but as this blog’s moderator, it’s my call as to which parts of comments will stand.

This isn’t a free-for-all for you to threaten each other and unless the talk goes back to baseball, Mets, Braves and the apparent joy of running free across a field of green — hairless — then commenting will be completely shut down. Which is also OK by the AJC, just so you know.

Now… Braves fans, get your Tomahawks and Mets fans, get your Norelcos. The battle begins anew.

By Butpeople

May 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

you can’t be for real? Mets fans didn’t carry out a merciless slaughter. The Braves fans DO continue to belittle native Americans. Are you that vapid to even try and make such a ridiculous comparison? Getting desperate down there I guess.

By Toasty Joe

May 12, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Interesting thing I spotted in today’s paper:

Through 20 home games, the Braves have drawn 580,096 fans (an average of 29,005 per game).

Through only 14 home games (not counting last night’s), the Mets had drawn 607,994 fans (average of 43,428).

Yes, you read that right. Prior to last night, the Mets had played 6 fewer home games than the Braves but had still drawn nearly 30,000 more fans. (p.s. - the Mets drew another 57,343 last night).

So, by all means, keep taking potshots at the Mets for being “lame.” I guess it’s much easier to do that than having to drive all the way over to the Ted to watch your team play.

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Sorry Chop chick I do apologize, now I’m ready fr round two at Pitt today,go Braves,I also just read over at mlbtraderumors.com that the D-Rays might be making C.Crawford available.

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Toasty joe your team is drawing yes that is true,so instead of taking in a Nascar event,maybe wetake in a good day of Fishing with our kids,Down here us Rednecks have a hard time deciding what we would like to do for our leisure,.however it does not DOES NOT EVER MEAN WE DON”T LOVE OUR BRAVES!! got it get it good!!!!!!

By bobbymahlon

May 12, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

How long is BC going with strikeout Wilson. If he is going to platoon at first lets do it with someone who can hit lefties. If Thorman can’t hit left hand pitching lets work Diaz in at first when lefties are starting.

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Braves baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet,man I miss those old Braves baseball lead in commercials,Dale Murphy,Bob Horner,C.Chambliss,Darrell Evans,Ralph Garr,C.Washington,O.Nixon,and a young M.Wohlers,man those were the days,the greatest rotatation in the History of Baseball,Maddux,Smoltz,Glavine,Neagle,Millwood,alas now for our next generation of Bravos,may you carry the torch higher than your predecessors,Lerew,Harrison,and Smith, to go with T.Hudson and Chuck James selah.I’m thinking maybe it’s time to plunder the Blue Jays,maybe for A.Rios Davies would look better over there than over here….

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Gorzelanny;looks like J.S. made a mistake by not expanding the deal to include him..

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Anyone on this blog old enuff to remember 13 in a row?

By joebrave

May 12, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

I think you are about to see it again! GO BRAVES!

By Zed

May 12, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

You lost me at Neagle

By Chop Chick

May 12, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

“Time for a william tecumseh sherman day at shea.” That’s what help-a-rascal says. And certain Mets fans are calling US names like “racist” and “redneck”?

That doesn’t go for all Mets fans on this blog — not by a long shot. Those of you who are talking good old NL East baseball in the spirit of the Braves-Mets rivalry, you’re cool with us. Really, you are, and you’re welcome here anytime as far as I’m concerned. Mets fans have contributed on this blog in the past and have said good things about the Braves and Braves fans. There are bad apples in any bunch of fans, no matter which team you root for. Doesn’t make the whole barrel rotten by any means.

We’ve got two great teams slugging it out for first in the division and that’s exciting. It’s the national pastime, y’all. You love to hate us; we love to hate you. So let’s forget the “Sherman day” type talk, speculate on which Met will have the stones to go full-on mohawk when the Tim Hudson look grows out (my money would be on LoDuca; he’s hardcore like that) and fight each other tooth and nail for the NL East pennant and the right to keep those designated-hitting ALers from going after the World Series kudos in 2007. We can rag each other all we want but when all is said and done, on the following point I think most Mets and Bravos fans can agree: Our pitchers HIT, like baseball players should. National League ball is still best.

So let’s rock ‘em-sock ‘em now and keep the WS from falling into the Junior League’s hands.

By Matt M.

May 14, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

If we can’t throw in the Braves championships before they came to Atlanta, then how many champioships do the Mets have since the Braves moved to Atlanta? Thats a question, I honestly don’t know, but lets keep the comparisons the same.

By Toasty Joe

May 14, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

“We? Are beating teams in our division, which in this era of the unbalance schedule is a must to make it into the postseason. They? Aren’t.”

Just curious, Chop Chick - how does an 11-9 division record translate into “not beating teams in our division”?

By Chop Chick

May 14, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

I’d say 14-8 (at the time of this writing) was better against division rivals than 11-9, Toasty Joe. That’s two over .500. But there’s lots of time left in the season so we’ll see how it all shakes out. Can we agree that the Phillies and Jimmy Rollins’ mouth should stay out of 1st? I think we can. :-)

By Zane Smith

May 15, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

you are all just jealous of the NY first place team. Hae nothing better to write about other than the Mets.

By jay

May 22, 2007 1:49 AM | Link to this

Wow, interesting comments about the current NL East Leaders. You guys realize that Met fans don’t spend our time making lame statements about the Braves. I guess 14 division titles haven’t upped the class quotient in the A. You got your facts wrong, they didn’t cut their hair to make any kind of statement. We’ve won 7 of 10 and 9 of our last 11 while the braves decided to get punked by Washington and bashed by the Red Sox. And by the way, if you Brave fans are so tough, try SHOWING UP TO THE DARN PLAYOFF GAMES! Your team gave you 14 division titles and you give them empty seats at playoff games. Tomahawk chop that one.

 

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