Braves

By Walker, Texas Bum

September 22, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

final trip for DOB

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Chipper .424 at citizens!..is he still above .400 at turner? DOB you noted Howard has .358 avg against us, i bet victorino is close to that too..he kills us!

By Brian

September 22, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Stinchy, Frenchy, Francoeur is gonna take more than an offseason to fix his problems so it’d be wise to expect a .250, 15-18 HR, and a 60-70 RBI season and not expect this team to out-slug the league, especially the Phillies next year! I guess add a power bat, alot of speed at the top and some damn good pitching/bullpen, and PRAY for health! That’s all they can do

By Cecil34

September 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

One reason why the Phillies have dominated the Braves - the Braves are not very good. It is that simple.

Thanks for clearing that up, DOB.

(ha ha)

By bsj

September 22, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

I saw KOL on SNL, and my 15-yr old has downloaded a few more cuts from the new album. As you say, we should reserve judgment, but I’m not ecstatic about this direction. The other cuts have a similar feel. Not a bad feeling, but not the raw energy and bada$$ attitude of the earlier stuff. My take anyway.

It was nice to see Frenchy bust out a little. He sure looks good when his confidence is there. Which Frenchy will show up at spring training? I’m not sure how much I buy into the “I was too strong/bulky” argument he seems to be putting out there.

Good luck to JJ. He’s come a long way from the projected 5th starter we projected in the spring.

By McFann ;Ô;

September 22, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Bravelee Chipper backing into the batting title is the lone highlight from an abysmal year.

Not true. There were plenty of others…

And that gives me a thought: We should list our Top Ten Braves Moments of 2008. Could be fun, ya know?

We cann wait till the season’s over.

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

At least Jurrjens has kept the two at bay. Both Howard and Victorino have a .250avg against our pitcher!

By Lew

September 22, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

MetroDude-From the last blog-You’re right. The Mets WERE in a World Series in the past 15 years. How exactly did that go against your cross town rivals?

Jealousy cloud my judgement? To quote John McEnroe, “You can’t be serious.” What exactly, do we have to be jealous of? The fact that the Mets were one and out in 06? Been there, done that and as we were told by y’all enough times, it means nothing. The fact that the Mets perpetuated the worst tanking in the history of baseball in 07? Or maybe the fact that we beat the Mets this year in our season series 11-7, quite possibly keeping the Mets from a Division Championship and the playoffs while doing it?

BTW-I have a baseball from the Subway Series-got it in a Spring Training trade as a throw in (sure wouldn’t have given up good artwork to own it). The only reason I even keep it in my collection is to remind myself that even the losers get lucky sometimes( yet another cheap musical reference). Still waiting for the Mets to actually get lucky. When will that be?

By Lew

September 22, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

MetroDude-One last thing. I hear you lost your bet with The Grinch when the Braves beat out the Mets in the season series and must pick up his bar tab. Knowing the Green One’s beer drinking proclivities, I do not envy you or your wallet. Make sure you stock up on those BC powders, too. Of course, if you time it right, you could use it to ease the pain of yet another Mets’ collapse.

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

McFann

your three favorite teams..Muts,Phillies,and cubs all going to playoffs at this point! Are you turning off the TV when regular season ends? Personally i would love for Cubs to beat down the Muts (the matchup right now & tonight)

By DAP

September 22, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

what do you guys think of trading for dan uggla to be our power hitting righty next season? he’s expected to make about $5mil in arbitration in 2009. we could either have him learn left field, or we could put kelly back out there, or trade him though id hate to do that.

whaddya say?

By Moby Grape

September 22, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

I say that in the last 60 games Uggla is hitting

.232 .348 .406 .754. I don’t really call that a RH power bat .

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

N Nine: You know something I don’t (you said my last trip). Or you talking about last trip of the 2008 regular season? In that case, yes.

Just the World Series and winter meetings to go, and possibly GM meetings. Might also need to see about another trip out to the Fall League, since one or two of those guys might be on next year’s team….

bsj, that’s what I was thinking — not the rockin’ energy of their previous stuff. But I gotta listen to the CD first….

By geauxbraves2000

September 22, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Braves’ favorite TV show this year: E/R.

Braves’ favorite movie: Groundhog Day.

:)

It’s been a tough year, but they are still my favorite team. Here’s to a return to the postseason in 2009.

Geaux Braves!!

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

DAP

The price and potential power are great! How would Marlins trade that to us? Hard to picture that happening. They might have more selling during offseason, so anything is possible. His defense does not thrill me however. Remember that brutal All-star game?

By matches

September 22, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Glad to hear Chipper is open to an eventual move to 1B under the right circumstances. He’s still a pretty good 3B now - whether that’ll be the case 2-3 years from now remains to be seen. Maybe they can play him at 1B once every blue moon in 2009 to help him get comfortable over there. No doubt in my mind he can handle the position with some practice.

By DAP

September 22, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

moby grape uggla is hitting .288 .405 .470 .875 this month. so he had a bad august and was injured in july…it happens. YOU may not think uggla is a right handed power hitter, but the fact is, thats exactly what he is.

so ill mark you down for a “no” on dan uggla because he had a rough patch. thanx for your input.

By CMC

September 22, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

DOB,

My fiance’ and I are headed to Miami on a business trip this weekend. We are staying at the Loews Hotel on Miami Beach. I need some recommendations on restaurants and watering holes within walking distance, and you are just the man to do it. We will probably specialize in Cuban food, but other suggestions will be appreciated. I assume Le Tub requires some decent cab fare if we want to sample that burger. We will have some free time on Saturday afternoon/night and all day Sunday. So when we aren’t eating and drinking, we might need some entertainment as well. Thanks for the feedback!!!!

By DAP

September 22, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

N Nine his defense would be the biggest problem. im not sure if he can even play left field, and if he can, i dont know how good or bad he would be. at 2nd, with him you kinda sacrifice some defense for what he can give you at the plate. anyways, his defense is a negative, as are his strikeouts, but that isnt a huge deal, since he walks to and has over a .360 OBP this year.

if the marlins trade him, it will be because of salary, so they will want either prospects, or first year players. in other words, cheap. what they take for uggla would depend on how much they need to move his salary. if they decide to trade him, there will be a few teams interested, so we’d have to fight for him a little. i wouldnt give up any real big-time prospects.

By Braveheart

September 22, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

what do you guys think of trading for dan uggla to be our power hitting righty next season?

Let’s dream even more wildly: What about Hanley Ramirez? He’s about to start making millions. 5.5, 7, 11, 15, 15.5, 16 over the next six years. One or two of the holy Heyward, Hanson and Schafer trio will likely have to be traded to get something like that done but it would be worth it …… Hanley’s defense ain’t great so he goes to third and ole number 10 moves to first …. or CJ stays at third and you send Hanley out to center if Schafer is the one traded ….. or you send Escobar back home to Miami in that trade to get it done ….. and have Hanley stay at SS ….

By McFann ;Ô;

September 22, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

N Nine—

Oh, yeah…my favorite teams, for sure! ( ; > ) Turning off the TV…eh, I don’t know. I’m sure I’ll catch some of the games…either way, I’ll keep the Gamedays going so I cann keep a close eye on, well, you know…

I think I’d like the Cubs to cream the Mets…But as long as the Braves cream the Fillies, I couldn’t care less what the other teams do (sort of).

I’m still waiting for the next homer from a certain someone…Let me just say that he’s the guy that’s only hit three home runs in 41 games since hitting two in one game on July 25.

And it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Chipper hit another, but he’s gotta get back in the lineup first.

Here’s to JJJ pitching the same way he did on July 25, and hopes that this series will not turn out the way that one did!

By A-ville Ranger

September 22, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

DOB,I haven’t been around lately so forgive my ignorance.How would you rate the likelihood of Cox returning next year ?

I saw where he said he wanted 2 good pitchers added to the roster.I first took this as his way of saying he’ll be the manager.It occurred to me it could be taken as an ultimatum to Wren though.So how do you see it ?

By Frank

September 22, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Yeah, it’s been a tough year from the Bravos….but one good thing happened…..Shania Twain is back on the market (Lol) ;>).

Sorry to jump off the subject of the Braves but I sense your a country music fan DOB and so am I. I don’t know about you…but my jaw just dropped when I heard that her hubby Mutt cheated on her. How could a guy ever cheat on something that hot, that gorgeous, that sexy? From what I’ve read, he kept her in a sexless-marriage….well, she wouldn’t have that problem with me (Lol);>)

Go Bravos in 2009!!!!!

By DAP

September 22, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

frank How could a guy ever cheat on something that hot, that gorgeous, that sexy?

you cant cheat on someTHING, only someone. maybe that was his problem.

By Dan

September 22, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Dave, will you address the free agent situation/draft picks for next year.

Right now, I think the Braves will pick somewhere in the 4-7 range in next year’s draft. This assures them of a protected first round pick, even if they sign one or two free agents, correct?

The Braves would lose later picks, but keeping that first rounder (especially that high) should assure the Braves of a quality player.

By Jersey Gil

September 22, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

CMC I don’t know your Budget, but if you want eat good South American in a Five Star Restaurant try OLA,James Ave, Miami Beach Also tried the Mojito. I live in Jersey now, But i live in Miami and also i still relative living there.

later…going to see the Bravos…

By Savannah Guy

September 22, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

A-Ville, DOB can give you the detail or you’ll find lots on the subject in past blogs, but here’s the short version: Cox has a contract for next year and fully plans on (and looks forward to) being in Atlanta managing the Braves. All of the current coaches are returning as well.

By Steve from OH

September 22, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Dan, the top 15 picks are protected. I believe we would lose a 2nd round pick if we signed a Type A free agent.

By Shaun

September 22, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, he just signed the six-year contract extension in May. I don’t think the Marlins would have done that if he weren’t in their plans for at least four or five more seasons.

And what is all this talk about the Braves and Marlins making trades? I don’t see either team trading a player of value to the other unless it’s a lopsided trade for one side or another, which of course isn’t logically possible. Both teams can’t avoid a lopsided trade with each other and still make a trade.

By CMC

September 22, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Jersey Gil. Will take notes on your suggestions.

By A-ville Ranger

September 22, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Savannah,I was hoping he’d change his mind.

By Braveheart

September 22, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Cox’ll still be managing this team when it’s time to build yet another Yankee Stadium …..

By Frank

September 22, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

DAP….Well, that’s what I meant……someone, not something.

He really is a DOG. Same thing for Peter Cook, Christie Brinkley’s ex-husband.

By brent a.

September 22, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Mets fans are so embarrassed about losing to the sad-sac Braves, that they accuse the Braves of only playing hard against the Mets.

That’s one of the stupidest scenarios I’ve heard yet.

If the Mets had a bullpen, they would’ve fared a lot better than they did. Just look at the losses your team absorbed each of the last two Sundays.

And Cox managed this like a play-off series? I guess that’s why Brian McCann sat out Friday night, and Julian Tavarez pitched the 8th inning of a tie ball game - because these games were so much more important to the Braves than any others they played all year.

By Savannah Guy

September 22, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

But I do think the transition, even if part-time, to first base might happen sooner than later. (DOB on Chipper)

Third base or first base with solid backup in both spots works just fine for me. Braves will be better with Chipper at 110 games and occasionally running on 6 cylinders than anyone else on the horizon running all out with a Hemi.

If we pickup a big talent with a big bat at first or third, all the better. Either way, Chipper gives the Braves true HOF expertise and a strong presence on the field and in the clubhouse.

He’s now playing the Terry Pendleton role that the Braves can build around, even if he is prone to injury. Hopefully he’s not seen to be playing the Dale Murphy role in an out-to-pasture trade.

Keep the Hoss… he’s still a stud.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Dude, Shania Twain has a beautiful face but with that flat butt and chest, she ain’t all that! For me, I’d like Shakira to shake her hips and that booty in my face!!

By Savannah Guy

September 22, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

A-ville, I hear ya, but that’s a done deal and not really worth much rehashing. Just hope he’s healthy and gets lots of coaching support along with some good luck…

particularly the good luck that is two or three ace starters.

By Braveheart

September 22, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, he just signed the six-year contract extension in May. I don’t think the Marlins would have done that if he weren’t in their plans for at least four or five more seasons.

I think they were trying to be aggressive b/c of the new stadium …… not sure what the status of the new stadium is ……. also, signing him to that contract makes him even more valuable as a trade asset for the Marlins ….. b/c if you are the Braves there is no way in hell you can beat a Hanley Ramirez at 6 years, $70 million ……

on the other hand, if he didn’t have a contract, he would be far more unattractive to the Braves because there would be much uncertainty about his arb eligible money and he would be a free agent sooner.

And what is all this talk about the Braves and Marlins making trades?

First of all, we’re damn near the offseason, DAP and I are bored and want to invent things to talk about. Would you rather we go back to discussing the varying levels of suckiness this team reached this year? Or how underwhelming the available free agents are? Or how much we are not dealing from a strength with regard to major league ready talent within the franchise that can be traded while still leaving us competitive next season?

I don’t see either team trading a player of value to the other unless it’s a lopsided trade for one side or another, which of course isn’t logically possible. Both teams can’t avoid a lopsided trade with each other and still make a trade.

That could be true but, then again, in the past, the Marlins traded mike piazza, al leiter and carlos delgado to the mets, Cliff Floyd to the expos, and mike hampton to the Braves. They seem to care most about the level of talent they receive and keeping costs down.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, me too!! McFann, ignore this! Any guy out there blogging have an ANNOYING girlfriend or wife who says things like… ” What’s wrong with me? We used to make out all the time, now you just want to watch TV or play video games!! Remember when you took me on our first date and had that look in your eye like I was the most beautiful girl.. now I can’t keep your eyes off other girls!” Do you love me or the Braves?” My response- SILENCE

By Braveheart

September 22, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Mets fans are so embarrassed about losing to the sad-sac Braves, that they accuse the Braves of only playing hard against the Mets.

tell me about it. their team is a in race for the division after choking it away last season. their team chokes again ….. and their fans blame it on the other team ….. they say it’s because the team in fourth wanted it more?!?!?!? Okay!!!!!!!

You know how you know the Braves were dying to beat the Mets? ‘Cause CJ benched himself ….. ‘cause Escobar benched himself ….. ‘cause McCann sat a game …… ‘cause Infante batted fourth ….. ‘cause Nitmar was in the outfield and batted leadoff ….. ‘cause francoeur was never benched …… ‘cause parr started a game ….. and ‘cause jojo started a game ….. & were relieved by Nunez, Julio, Tavarez, Carlyle, Acosta ….

By frank

September 22, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Chipper, Casey Kotchman and Jeff Francoeur, who might not hit more than about 75 homers between them

That would be on the high end of the homer total. 60 would be more like it. With Chipper being lucky to start 120 games again next year, and Kotchman and Francouer in the 15-22 range. Definetely need to get a power bat in the off season.

By keylargo

September 22, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, he just signed the six-year contract extension in May. I don’t think the Marlins would have done that if he weren’t in their plans for at least four or five more seasons. Shaun

Hanley being under contract is actually a big asset with him being tied up for six years at an affordable, back loaded price.

And as far as the Marlins intent, the negotiations almost came to a halt when the Marlins would not budge on the contract not containing a no trade clause. In other words, the Marlins wanted to retain the option to deal him.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Chipper not playing again, but said he will try to play tomorrow and is pretty certain he’ll play Wednesday. Facing lefties tonight and tomorrow, and righty Myers on Wednesday. It’s a lot easier for him to swing left-handed, but still doesn’t think he can make a good throw….

Escobar no change in hamstring. He was brief in his reply, didn’t elaborate or say when he thought he might play….

Hamels must be licking his chops hoping he gets to face a lineup tomorrow similar to tonight’s lineup: 1. Josh A., 2 Prado (3B), 3. Johnson, 4. Infante (LF), 5. Francoeur, 6. Kotchman, 7. Sammons, 8. Lil’ Bridge, 9. Jurrjens. (Although we know McCann will be in there instead of Sammons tomorrow)

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

SAMMONS??! What the…?

By Run Heap Run

September 22, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Came to check DOB’s lineup and saw Larry Munson is retiring - I have tears in my eyes.

Get ‘em Braves

By cabravesfan

September 22, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Hampton? I though JJ was scheduled to pitch tonight…

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

By the way, Chipper is 5-for-15 with two homers off Hamels. Something tells me he’ll be in there tomorrow.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

I think Bobby Cox has a soft spot in his heart for the Phillies.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

CMC, honestly, you’re going to be down almost to South Beach, and I’ve not been down there in years. Every restaurant and bar down there has probably changed twice since I’ve been down that way.

Now, if you can get up to Hollywood Beach to Le Tub, that’s well worth the sidetrip north. Outstanding grub. Also, you can’t go wrong with Cuban or other Latin fare down in Miami, long as you ask the right people. Ask any local down there where’s the best, non-tourist-trap place to get a Cuban sandwich, and they’ll steer you in the right direction. The concierge at Loew’s will, too, I’m sure. That’s in a happening area.

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

(Although we know McCann will be in there instead of Sammons tomorrow)

Yeah!

By Brian

September 22, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

This is almost embarrasing- Ryan Howard has more HR than the entire Braves lineup tonight? That’s rediculous!!

By Jamie in Richmond

September 22, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

I heard a great comparison over the weekend from a fellow Braves fan. He drew a paralell between Johnson and Laroche..both have trouble remembering outs, neither will ever ben confused for Craig Biggio in terms of having the dirtiest uniform on the team, neither play the game with a great deal of passion, both are incredibly streaky hitters, both strike out way too much, and both make way more mental lapses than they should. Johnson may very well be hitting .285 and in the midts of a prolonged hitting streak. That’s fine, good for him. Terrific. But I still don’t want him on my team. For me, there are a couple of ways for a ballplayer to endear himself to the fan when the numbers “arent there”. If a player hustles constantly, busts it down the line, goes in hard at 2nd base, and will throw himself through a wall…it’s easy to throw support that guy’s direction. Secondly, if a guy plays the game fundametnally sound….maybe his average is loow, but you can always count on him to get down a bunt or hit a cutoff man…than I can stick with a guy. Thirdly, and least important, but not to be ignored, as a fan- if a ballplayer’s got a tremendous personality and shows it, it’s easier to continue supporting that guy when his numbers arent there. None of those 3 characteristics apply to Kelly Johnson. And so I think when he’s hitting .265 (as he was before his latest streak), kicking balls, striking out, and forgetting how many outs there are, it should come as no surprise that many fans (like myself) are quicker to jump on him because he’s not a passionate player, he’s not a very fundamentally sound player, he’s not a baseball “dirtball”, and he doesnt show any more of a glimpse of personality than the tree in my backyard. Fair or not, I think one would be kidding themselves to say none of those factors play a role in how fan’s view the guy (or other guys). I’m sure Johnson is a nice fella. He’s an okay ballplayer. I put all of my faith and trust in Bobby, and if he’s good enough for BC, he’s good enough for me. But me, and it’s only my opinion, but I don’t like the guy as a ballplayer and despite this recent hitting streak I’d like to see him included in a winter-deal to bring Atl more pitching and allow Martin the job in 09. Prado has one of the highest slugging %’s on the team, so I’m okay with having a few less homeruns if it means a higher batting average, a little more intensity, and a guy who will hit to the opposite field instead of whiffing through that pitch up and away as Johnson so often does. As extensive as my crush is on Sarah Palin, I’m even more geeked up to vote- Prado ‘09.

By Moby Grape

September 22, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

YOU may not think uggla is a right handed power hitter, but the fact is, thats exactly what he is.

so ill mark you down for a “no” on dan uggla because he had a rough patch. thanx for your input.DAP

You’re welcome sweety, but my vote is the one that will prevail. We won’t be getting Uggla this winter. Sorry for your pain, dude.

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Shane Victorino is a pain in the neck……

…Literally.

By BravesFanInRockies

September 22, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Shaun,

There were reports a few weeks back that the Marlins may undertake yet another salary dump this winter (hard as that may be to believe).

I agree that Hanley is not available. If I were going for cheap, I’d fill a roster with 24 guys making the minimum and Hanley and take my chances.

Jacobs is available but I’d go nowhere near him. He makes Frenchy look like a patient hitter at times.

Uggla, on the other hand, might be out there. I can’t imagine he’d be as much of a butcher in LF as at 2B. And there’s your RH power hitting corner OF.

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

DOB—

Is there any real reason why McCann isn’t playing tonight? Or is it just ‘cause Happ’s a lefty?

By Jared

September 22, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

This is almost embarrasing- Ryan Howard has more HR than the entire Braves lineup tonight? That’s rediculous!!

Yes, but according to Joe Simpson, this team lacks speed.

Burrell or Dunn sure would look nice in left field next season after a season of Blanco/Anderson/Francoeur/Jones and the rest of the punchless players in the outfield.

Uggla is a non-starter. The Marlins aren’t going to trade him to us and second base isn’t really a pressing need.

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

Damn Victorino. Sammons, still having trouble blocking pitches. Mac would have caught that one.

By Steve

September 22, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

DOB, did previous GM see this coming and bail?

By Cooper

September 22, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Nice blog DOB.

I think the Phillies are going to be tough to beat until the Braves have a significant make over. Nothing others have not discussed before - major infusion of power, basically a new rotation (JJ + many sir not appearing in this film) and some surgical work on the pen. No pun intended. :)

The Braves need two power OF bats (FA or trade) an two TOR SP just to become relevant again. As a result they will have to trade KJ and or JF along with several minor league future stars to do it.

That is unless Liberty throws a $25+mm payroll boost Wren’s way it will be hard to hold onto a growing list of minor league “untouchables” and pull off the type of rebuild this team needs.

By Off Subject

September 22, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

What’s up with Peachtree TV tonight? The aspect ration is off on their feed. No matter what setting I use on the ole’ HDTV the graphic at the top is cropped left and the picture is blurry. Peachtree has been a huge disappointment this season with their coverage. It’s like they are taking surplus gear that isn’t worthy of TBS weekly broadcasts and trying to produce a product. If it is in fact the same gear they are using, then something in the signal chain is funky. Bad picture, loss of signal, repeated glitches. Reminds me of coverage from the 70’s and 80’s. Do those guys not watch their product to see what’s happening with it before they pipe it to the cable and airways?

By Off Subject

September 22, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

That should have been aspect ratio, not aspect ration.

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

Victorino again. Man speed is a great weapon, when they use it. But a DP takes care of that.

By SoWeGa

September 22, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

If I was Frank Wren, Florida would be my Walmart this winter.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

Forgot to mention, you guys should get a load of the haircut Jo-Jo Reyes is sporting. It’s Mohawk-ish, but just a really think strip of hair on an otherwise shaved dome.

It’s, uh, interesting. Desperate times, I guess, call for desperate measures. Especially when you’ve run out of answers as far as actual pitching is concerned.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

JASON MARQUIS just hit a grand slam for the Cubs.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

DeRo was on base when Marquis hit the slam, which put Cubs up 6-2 on Mets.

past and present Braves helping Phillies move toward the division crown….

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Mac would have caught that one.

Probably.

Victorino again.

Did the Reaper get another hit? Dang…

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

DOB—

Mohawk? Yikes…

Dang! Time for a Grove update:

1-3 with a double, a run scored, and a strikeout. AVG at .286, 10 points behind McCann.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

KJ’s two-run bomb just stretched his hitting streak to 20 games, longest in the National League this season. I talked to Frank Wren (he’s on this trip) before the game for a while, and he had a lot of praise for Johnson’s performance the past month or so, said he’s now playing like the guy they envisioned he’d be….

A-Ville, after last week I’d rate it about 100 percent certain that Cox is coming back next year, along with all the coaches who were re-hired for same roles. Announcement last week, right after Cox told our Mark Bradley that he’s coming back next year, no doubt.

By Wayne

September 22, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

I sure like the pinch hitting that Norton has done this season, but with his glove work, we still need someone who can man third and first when Chipper is out, or if Kotchman needs a blow.

I have not been very satisfied with Prado’s performance as a third baseman, and Infante is OK, if only for a day here or there.

I would love to see the Braves make a play for Rich Aurilia this winter. He can play both corners as well as the middle infield positions in a pinch, and he still has a decent bat.

I don’t see us going into 2009 with these guys on the roster together: KJ and Prado, Infante and Lillibridge, and I think Gotay is history.

If we have 13 non-pitchers on the 25 man roster, that gives us 5 bench players. I see us with Infante, a backup catcher, one more infielder and two outfielders.

Some other candidates are Diaz, Anderson/Blanco, BJones, Norton, Prado/KJ and Sammons.

Personally, I would love to see an upgraded backup catcher, someone like Aurilia (or Jeff Baker) and then two decent outfielders. As much as I like Norton, with his glove, I don’t see him working out.

Also, Hanley is too much of a bargain for the Marlins to trade. Expect someone like Magglio Ordonez instead.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Frank, yes I am a big country fan. But hard country, outlaw country, traditional country. Not that easy-listening pop music disguised as country, ala Shania Twain.

(Not that there’s anything wrong with that…. just doesn’t do it for me.)

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

2-2 score! Whoo-hoo!

By fastasballs

September 22, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Well this should be the most exciting off season the Braves have had in ages, maybe all time depending on what transpires.

I hope Wren makes a trade for Peavy, wishful thinking on my part, but it’s possible based on the Padres wanting to cut salary. Also sign Derek Lowe & Hampton. It wouldn’t be a bad rotation with Peavy, Lowe, JJJ, Morton & Hampton. Hanson would be in the wings should Morton falter or an injury. What’s Hudson’s ETA? End of next season?

I think things become murky when dealing with the line up. Do you depend on Francoeur? Do you trade KJ? Will Kotchman develop more power? Will Schafer be ready for next season? Can Chipper play 130 games?

Chipper & McCann can’t be the top two offensive threats next season. Chipper misses way too many games & McCann is only going to play 80% or so of the games. There have been way too many games this year when neither played & the results were not pretty.

I don’t envy Wren’s job this winter. I just hope he doesn’t trade off the farm to try & win next year. Sure I want them to have a good season in 2009, but I know the potential sitting in the farm system & don’t want them all traded for a win at all cost during Cox’s “last” season.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

DOB- You probably won’t answer this question but I’d still like to know who has the ruder fans- Phily or NY? I mean, is something in the air up there, or what? Maybe they give fans discounts on beer or something.

By I hate Larry Jones

September 22, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

So at the all star break, jones decided to heck with the team I’m not going to be a power hitter any more I’ll just concentrate on hitting singles and win the batting championship.

So how he has the lead and suddenly there is an “injury”and he cant play. My guess is he takes off all next week to protect his batting average.

What a jerk!!!!!!

By Mitchell

September 22, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

KELLY… JOHNSON!!!

Work on that defense Kelly and you’ll have something.

Oh, what a rip-off for Kotchman.

Thank you Chip and Joe.

I’m not the only one who’s willing to voice my distaste for “New York, New York” baseball.

I’ve never seen such gratuitous self-love, which is saying something for the Yankees.

Again, I didn’t mean to be quite so offensive in my last night post. It was uncalled for. I meant what I said but I shouldn’t have said it.

But I know at least I’m not alone in thinking it.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

I hate Larry Jones- Is that you Lou Vales? You’re not foolin’ us you big LIAR!!

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Lillibridge snapped an 0-for-25 skid with his single in the fifth inning, then gets another hit in the seventh inning.

His first hits since July 18, when he also had a two-hit game against the Nats in the first game after the All-Star break.

By SoWeGa Fanatic

September 22, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Frenchy is at .240! That is pretty amazing, considering.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

JJ just 92 pitches through seven innings.

By SoWeGa Fanatic

September 22, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

I wish I cussed! *&^%$#@!

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

Not that anyone noticed, but I had wrong stats for Chipper above, regarding Phillies. Those stats I put in were his 10 games against Philies this season, not his career numbers at this ballpark. He’s hit .308 with seven homers and 20 RBI in 32 games at this ballpark.

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Waytago, Jeff. Your only hope is that Kotchy hits a long-ball…

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

Well, hey, the Reaper made an error, anyway…

By SoWeGa Fanatic

September 22, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

So now we have Sammons, Lillibridge, and PH to pull this thing out. That doesn’t bode well for the good guys.

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

How in the hell did the braves did not get a run right there, now the phillies have the momentum, and the braves will lose.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Are you freakin’ serious? Bennett, did you really just do that?

By fastasballs

September 22, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Unfreakin real……………..

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

OK, they missed Mac BADLY on that play. Very poor job by Sammons of being in position to catch the throw and block the plate.

By Chip Caray is Annoying

September 22, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

What kind of serious nepotism keeps the worst, most loud and obnoxious current baseball announcer employed?

Good Lord, Chip Caray’s boyish prepubescent voice makes my ears bleed.

By fastasballs

September 22, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

What is Sammons doing? He looked to be bracing for a collision & the guy slid right under him. He was out by five feet, yet managed to slide under Sammons. Was again unfreakinreal

By SoWeGa Fanatic

September 22, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

I hear the fat lady tuning up.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what the F!!! Cox even questioned that call for!! If I were Sammons I wouldn’t take my mask off either!!

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

The Phillies score. Sammons, really didn’t do a good job there blocking the plate, he was to offf to the first base side of home plate, and was late applying the tag.

By Jake

September 22, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Errors and Execution. When we play the Phillies we do too much of the first one and not enough of the second one. What was Clint doing? Jeff’s got to understand who is in trouble. Infante got a tough break, but Francoeur never swung at anything good. Runner at third and one out you don’t have to do much.

By Couch Tater

September 22, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

Sammons wuz swimmin’ upstream on that play.

By nfieldr

September 22, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

I walked away from the computer for a minute… What did Bennett do??

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

McCann woulda had that guy.

Why should Sammons be surprised that Prado’s throwing to him?

SHEEEEEEEESH!!

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Are the Braves giving the games against the phillies away? It sure looks like that. Why? Damn Burrel.

By caballo muerto

September 22, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Someone is complaining about “Larry Jones?” Mutt fan. I am totally cool with Chipper sitting out the rest of the season. In fact, I recommend it. HOF baby!

That will make four of them wasted by Cox.

By nfieldr

September 22, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Atta boy, Julian… just let ‘em put it out of reach.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

Sometimes I think Joe Simpson wants to ring Chip Carey’s neck!!!

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Brian, I’d give the rudeness edge to Philly fans. They’re pretty hardcore.

By Bring me the Head of F.P. Santangelo

September 22, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Don’t blame Sammons! McCann’s gutlessly riding the pine to protect his 10-point lead over Geo Soto.

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Jurrjens pitched a heck of a game, Happ is phillies 5th starter, there bulpen has been overused and lidge isn’t available, but the Braves can’t win against the phillies. Tomorrow, it’s Jo-jo, or Buddy against Hamels, meaning the Braves lose, and Wednsday I think it’s Hampton against Myers, hopefully with Mac, and Chipper in the lineup.

By brent a.

September 22, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

So … …

this is why adding instant replay is a no-brainer, right?

Because, if you add instant replay, it assures that you will always get these calls right.

I love it. The inmates are running the asylum.

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

I think the Braves might have gotten screwed on that one. At the least, they should’ve have reviewed it. What’s the point of having the technology?

By cabravesfan

September 22, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

would it have been so difficult to at least take a look at the hit by Mac?

By brent a.

September 22, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

okay, so I jumped in too quickly. that was not a homerun.

good night folks.

By Savannah Guy

September 22, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Funny, we sometimes talk about the confidence or lack thereof with our pitchers and how that effects their game. Usually that’s a pretty good indicator of how they approach the hitter and their overall success.

Then there’s Taverez. He’s the picture of confidence out there and if you hadn’t watched him give up so many go ahead runs you’d think he was in complete control of the games he pitches by the way he goes about his business on the mound. He’s a good pro and he’ll give you some innings, but man…

Then there’s Seanez. Always liked the way Rudy went about his business. When he was with Atlanta his business was good. Still is. What is he now, 50?

And then there’s Jair. Another quality start tonight for our ROY. Braves have a golden boy right there. The way he goes about his business on the mound and his approach to batters belies his brief time in the bigs.

By Charlie

September 22, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

After winning the series against the Mets, the Braves are out to prove they are STILL the poorest team in the East. Sammons is so not ready for the major leagues. He can’t hit a lick, defensively he’s shaky, and obviously doesn’t have his head in the game. We should bring up Salty…oh ya…we gave him away, with 4 other prospects a couple seasons ago. Jeff F. is still a pitchers best friend with runners in scoring position. Our cleanup hitter has 3 HRs… What a joke! And they seem to find new ways to LOSE much of the time. They are really a minor league caliber team.

By Lou Vales

September 22, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

I was wrong!!! Chipper Jones came back to play. PS—Thanks for asking.

By Tomas

September 22, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

WHY??????

Next year I hope the Braves don’t play this poorly against this guys.

By fastasballs

September 22, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

The Braves wasted another great outing by JJJ. He should have 17-18 wins this season, maybe more if he had some offensive support.

Was McCann robbed of a HR or not? PTV has the wrost camera crews in baseball & didn’t have a great angle. Anyone watching the Phillies feed? I wonder why it wasn’t reviewed?

By Jake

September 22, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

You know what i don’t even know why i’m frustrated. J.J. had a great game 7 innings and two runs (should have been 1). When I saw our lineup earlier I knew it wasn’t going to be too big of an offensive night. I think I heard the tomahawk chop. Very appropriate as we have really helped them out this year. Thought we might get replay here. I guess they thought it really doesn’t matter with us. They could have at least looked. That’s what its for.

On a side note it must be cool not to really have to play defense in left or right field. That ball that KJ hit in the 1st would have probably been a hit at Turner but when the wall is so close it doesn’t just affect how many homers there are hit out but how many clean hits that would have fell in front of the defender are now catcahble because they stand closer.

By McFann :Ô:

September 22, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Dang Fillies…

No review? Man! That one was hard to tell…but I think it did hit off the poll right below the yellow part.

Think Mac felt like a big-shot calling for the replay, though. “LOL”

Well, new career-high in hits, new career-high in doubles. Killed two milestones with one ball.

Dude @ 9:37—

That is so not true.

DOB @ 9:20—

I agree.

Brian Sometimes I think Joe Simpson wants to ring Chip Carey’s neck!!!

I think you’re right.

By N Nine

September 22, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

THE CHIPPER JONES UPDATE:

Chipper 1-1 .364

Pujols (currently)0-1 BB .348

Chipper now appproaching new records! All time Braves highest BA in season is .366 Last Switch hitter to hit this high .365 Mickey Mantle’s .1957

By Wayne

September 22, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

We complained about Corky Miller, almost begging to get Sammons up. Supposedly a good glove man. Our pitching staff is a patchwork quilt. Overused.

Our hitting has been weak and untimely all year.

Are we surprised that a team like the Phillies exploit the Braves?

Gotta a lot of work to do this winter.

We still have some good players, but we need some to heal, and others to be dispatched. Let’s hope Frank Wren and his team have done their homework and are going to sign some “players” this winter.

Go Braves in 2009/2010!

By NO MORE BOBBY

September 22, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

WHY ARE THE BRAVES SO SCARED OF THE PHILLIES THIS YEAR?

By McFann Ô

September 22, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

DOB, cabravesfan—

Yeah, they could have at least looked at it.

It’s a conspiracy…the umps are out to get us.

It was a very close call, but heck, what’s the worst that could’ve happened? They review it and it’s still not a homer—OK, fine. Then at least we wouldn’t feel cheated.

fastasballs PTV has the wrost camera crews in baseball & didn’t have a great angle.

You’re not kidding.

By McFann Ô

September 22, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Wayne We complained about Corky Miller, almost begging to get Sammons up. Supposedly a good glove man.

Yep. But…

Well, I gotta run. This thing tonight demonstrated why I didn’t want instant-replay. There’s no point in it if you’re not gonna use it. You wanna get the calls correct, OK—then use it, or go back to when you never had it, and we just say, “Man! That almost looked like a homer…” instead of, “Man! That almost looked like a homer! Review it, dummy!”

Whatever. Night, all.

By caballo muerto

September 22, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Joe Simpson, who was a journeyman outfielder with an unspectacular career, has become a pretty good commentator. Sometimes better than others, but I personally like his style.

Chip Caray, on the other hand, is the worst example of nepotism gone bad. NO F-ING WAY this uninteresting goof has a job without family connections. His giddy, high-pitched amusement at his own pedestrian observations has me nauseated to the point of planning toilet locations.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Bobby needs to sit the Clintster and Jeffrey in a corner after this one! You gotta admit, Cox has a TON of patience, especially for an older fella!

By Bobbymahlon

September 22, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

Remember KJ’s hitting streak is tarnished because on and error by Howard our home town scorer changed the error to a hit to keep his streak alive. BC contnues to get out managed like first base open he brings in Escobar to pinch hit they bring in a right hander Cox brings in Norton for Esco and they walk Norton, now two players used and neither gets to hit. Good managers would see these moves ahead of the changes. Unless we get a right handed power hitter for left field and two good starting pitchers 2009 will be just like 2008. So I see no light at the end of the tunnel yet. I hope this all takes place over the winter or we will be saying wait until 2010.

By Savannah Guy

September 22, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

McFann, I’m with you on that replay. Maybe I missed something but it seemed pretty dysfunctional on the umpire crew and the ball looked out to me… not sure.

Useful technology is once again trumped by the need for ultimate control. The umps don’t like it.

By LoMac

September 22, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

I read where all the coaches have been retained for next year. Keeping Pendleton for another year signals the Braves have already thrown in the towel for next year as well. All the injury excuses do not explain the lack of clutch hitting all year. The injuries have been almost exclusively to the pitching staff. And all the rumors that he is BOOby’s successor are very disheartening.

By dan

September 22, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

DAVE:

Will you please address the free agent situation and our protected first round pick.

Because of the terrible won loss record, I am assuming we have a protected first round pick. If, and when, we sign a free agent or two, we will not lose the first round pick, correct? Do we lose a second round pick?

Do you think there is any chance that Strasburg falls to the Braves in the draft?

By Greg in TN

September 22, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Evening from Philly gang…

Have to say, the Phillies fans were quite accommodating for the most part, even cordial at times. That’s what happens when the record against the Phillies is 2-14 after tonight’s game.

Still, Phillies fans are Phillies fans and they all took delight in tonight’s 8th inning meltdown.

I felt like Jurrjens pitched awfully well even though he struggled in the early going spotting his change-up. Had a pretty good fastball at times (mid 90s) and kept their lineup off-balanced enough for the quality start.

I thought JJ did a better job tonight of throwing to first to keep the runners honest, which is something Braves pitchers as a collective group don’t do too well.

Bennett’s error (ironically on a throw to first to chase back Golson) was the dagger in the heart tonight. I felt that was it even before Tavarez gave up the long ball to Burrell (bringing in Tavarez tonight was kind of like bringing a flamethrower to a propane leak).

KJ’s bomb was a nice blast and certainly made up for the bobble with the infield in on Ruiz’s grounder in the second that allowed Victorino to score.

Did not get a good look at the tag play with Sammons on Golson, but the throw got to the plate in plenty of time. Was also screened off of B-Mac’s 9th inning double that could have been a homer.

Will be in attendance tomorrow night for sure. The ballpark isn’t that bad for a bandbox. It’s a nice bandbox to be sure. Especially if you’re Ryan Howard and Chase Utley playing 82 games a year there.

By Steve from OH

September 22, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

DAN:

Here ya go. Hope this clears everything up.

*Teams can earn Compensatory picks in the draft based on departing free agents. Free Agents are ranked by the Elias Sports Bureau based on their previous two years of playing, and against players of similar positions. The top 20% of free agents are considered ‘Type A’ free agents, and the following 20% are ‘Type B’ free agents. Type A free agents will get their former team a supplemental round pick between the first and second rounds, and a compensatory pick from the signing team. Type B free agents get their former team just a supplemental round pick. To earn a compensatory pick, a free agent must either be signed before the arbitration deadline in early December, or be offered arbitration by their former team but still sign with someone else.

Compensatory picks that one team gives another via this method are the highest available pick that team has. If a team owes two other teams draft picks via Type A free agents, the team whose departing player had a higher score gets the higher ranked pick. A team cannot lose picks it has earned via compensation. Also, the first 15 picks in the draft cannot be lost via compensation, so a team that is in that rank would give up their second round pick.

The order of the supplemental round between the first and second rounds is determined by inverse order of the previous year’s standings. All the Type A picks are done first, and then the order resets for all the Type B compensation picks.

Teams can also earn compensation for unsigned picks from the previous year’s draft. If a team doesn’t sign a first or second round pick, they will get to pick at the same slot plus one the following year. For instance, if the team with the #5 pick does not sign that player, they would have the #6 pick the following year. The regular draft order would continue around those picks. For compensation for not signing a third round pick, teams would get a pick in a supplemental round between the third and fourth rounds. If a team fails to sign a player with one of these compensated picks, there is no compensation the following year.*

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Cox on the Sammons play: “He didn’t get in front of the plate – [bleeping] simple as that. I don’t know. I just couldn’t believe what I was seeing. We had an easy out.”

He was also p’d off about the Bennett throw “nearly into the stands.”

By David O'Brien

September 22, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Dan, Steve from OH just answered. And thanyouverymuch, Steve. Much obliged.

By Brian

September 22, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

DOB- Good to hear Cox gettin’ a little fed up with BONEHEAD plays!! Just glad I’m not Bennett or Sammons right now.

By Mitchell

September 22, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

I can’t put into words how much I wanted to help the Mets out tonight.

I don’t really like or care about either team (there’s an understatement) and I’m still not sure who I want to make the playoffs least. Screw the Phillies.

It’s getting to the point where I’d only be happy if about two teams won the WS. Actually, I’m a die hard National League fan, if there is such a thing anymore, but I’m all about the AL this time. Angles, White Sox, Rays would be fine. I think the Rays might pull it off.

Question: would we be able to live vicariously through the worst to first Rays winning it all like our ‘91 Braves… almost did? They keep saying the ‘69 Mets. Whatever.

I guess it comes down to the Cubs and Phillies. Both would be a total nightmare. The Cubs just can’t win. That would be wrong, but I don’t think they will. Even though they probably should. But they won’t.

Did Jason Marquis really hit a grand slam!?! Come on.

And what is it with Jeff Bennett? He either sucks or is great. Or he’s bad.

At least I didn’t have to watch it live. Pete painted a pretty good picture on radio. It was the worst pick off throw he’d ever seen. He’s seen a lot.

And who would have thought I’d be one among so few to actually like Chip Caray?

I didn’t at first and not for a while but when something crazy or exciting happens, he’s your guy. You gotta admit he’s better than Boog Sciambi. Talk about generic cookie cutter, booming voice guy.

Any way you look at it, we’re lucky to have them even if they do hate each other according to some. There are some really terrible announcers out there.

If I had to hear any of the following at any point for any extended period of time, I’d go truly crazy:

“He hits it high, he hits it deeep… “

“You can put it on the board, yee-es… “

“It’s an A-Bomb, from A-ROD… “

so on and so forth.

I think we got it pretty good in that department, all things considered.

By Mitchell

September 22, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this

Hey did anybody notice that the guy Jason Marquis hit his salami off of is the same guy SportsCenter keeps making a point of saying was born the same day the Mets last won the World Series in ‘86?

I wonder if they’ll say it this time?

Gee, imagine if he only had a no hitter? Am I right? Yeah, SportsCenter.

My final question: Who’s idea was it to cut Brayan Pena? What were they thinking when they got rid of the one decent back-up catcher to McCann. Brayan was very worthy to back up Brian.

Clint and Corky can’t do half of what Pena was capable of. What an embarrassment.

It’s guys like Clint Sammons who are bringing this team down. He doesn’t offer anything.

I can’t believe he actually got a homerun. I still remember it. It didn’t seem right.

Oh well.

By Sandy Drysdale

September 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

Caballo Muerto

I can only assume you are a member of the Simpson family or Joe Simpson himself. He is nothing but a know-everything, whiny-voiced cheerleader for the Braves. You are right about his journeyman career, however. A career batting average of .240 with 11 home runs in nine years.

By alfalfa

September 23, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

come join my club i’m starting it’s the “he man sammons haters”. girls are ok.

By Mr. Drysdale

September 23, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this

Oh dear! I just realized that the bank has invested much of Mr. Clampett’s money in credit default swaps.

Miss Hathaway, how will we explain this?

By Mr. Drysdale

September 23, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

Oh no. And we invested all of Robert Cox’s money in Lehman Brother’s stock.

I hope he wasn’t planning on retiring anytime soon.

By richbrave

September 23, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this

McFANN:

From CARROLL ROGERS’ last blog. You asked about BRAD McCANN. Only thing I found was a discussion about racing a stock car. Think maybe he’s gone to auto racing. Not completely sure.

By richbrave

September 23, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

JAMIE in RICHMOND:

The old blue-veined throbber for PRADO eh.?

By Rico

September 23, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this

Well, DOB, at the risk of PUI (posting under the influence) I’m gonna say that the Philly fans were friendlier than expected. Maybe it’s cuz we suck this year, they’re in first, and the Iggles manhandled Rothlesberger. I gave as good as I got. The only serious aschloch was some dude who turned around and told me that if i was at an Eagles game I’d be in a body bag. Little hard core but I grabbed my cojones in his general direction and that was the extent of my abuse at the hands of the Philly fans. Sheeeeeit. Overrated. We gave ‘em a run tonight until Tavarez got waxed.

Had a ball this afternoon. Liberty Bell then South St. outdoor Bier gartens and stogies wrapped around a 72 degree afternoon. Cool town.

By richbrave

September 23, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this

MITCHELL:

Add me to the list of people who like CHIP CAREY. Behind SKIP add PETE VanW. I’ve got to listen to DON SUTTON say the same things over and over patiently explaining the game of baseball to all the uneducated and unwashed NATS fans.

By Coach (Skip will be missed)

September 23, 2008 2:46 AM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be something if Chipper ended up having shoulder surgery after this season ended? I mean, 2009 is already looking bleak and if Hoss were to miss a significant portion of it, well, stick a fork in our Braves already.

My opinion that the Braves should make every effort to trade Chipper if at all possible is stronger than ever. Larry Wayne Jr. is part of the past, not the future.

And I hope he wins the batting title. It would only enhance his trade value.

Dear Shaun, your ignorance is truly astonishing. But considering that fact that you’re about fifteen, I’ll forgive you.

Gaylord Perry threw the spitball well into the mid-sixties, along with the mudball, sweatball, vaseline ball etc.etc.

Babe Ruth used a 47 ounce hickory bat. The primary reason behind the use of hickory bats in the early part of the twentieth century was because the wood was so hard and durable that the bats almost never broke.

It was quit common for a player to go an entire season with just one bat. Of course, economics played a part in the choice of hickory bats as players back then didn’t make much more than the average worker.

And as for metal cleats, they are still manufactured to this day.

Wisdom comes with age, experience is earned and youth is folly.

By chappelli

September 23, 2008 3:33 AM | Link to this

DOB; I only saw the play on mlb without a replay but surely with Prado fielding the ball near the 3rd base line Sammons can’t bloke the plate. If he does the runner will then be between Sammons and Prado and the 3rd base man either doesn’t throw or if he does there’s a fair chanced the ball will hit the runner.

By ncscoots

September 23, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

Wisdom comes with age, experience is earned and youth is folly.

And exceptions only prove the rule.

By Wayne

September 23, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Is JoJo going tonight?

Also, any thoughts as to what will be the rotation from today through Sunday? Any changes to the normal rotation in Houston?

By Jamie in Richmond

September 23, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me what’s so promising about Sammons? He’s never hit, still hasnt…and since he’s been up and during his time in Richmond I havent seen anything defensively from him that has ever given the impression he’s our next great # 2 catcher ala Eddie and Blanco. Anything, and I mean, anything is better than Corky. But does is Atl really that impressed with Sammons that they want him catching one out of every 5th or 6 games next year?

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Gaylord Perry threw the spitball well into the mid-sixties, along with the mudball, sweatball, vaseline ball etc.etc.

Right. But it was illegal. And you really think the spitball, mudball, etc. made the game significantly better?

Babe Ruth used a 47 ounce hickory bat. The primary reason behind the use of hickory bats in the early part of the twentieth century was because the wood was so hard and durable that the bats almost never broke.

It was quit common for a player to go an entire season with just one bat. Of course, economics played a part in the choice of hickory bats as players back then didn’t make much more than the average worker.

Right. But Hickory bats were heavy. Heavier bats equals less bat speed. Hitters using better tools within the rules of the game makes for a more entertaining game.

And as for metal cleats, they are still manufactured to this day.

Yes, the are manufactured and used by major leaguers.

*Wisdom comes with age, experience is earned and youth is folly. *

Who said anything about wisdom? I’m just saying many things are better now days than in the past.

By don

September 23, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Looks like Chipper will back into the batting title. Better to win it on the field than on the bench.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

i dont think its fair to say chipper is backing into the batting title. its not like hes hitting only .315 and there are a bunch of guys close to him this year. he has been right on almost all year, hitting like crazy. he has enough PAs, and is now injured. he got a pinch hit last night, didnt he? no, chipper isnt backing in. hes been earning it all season long.

By Braveheart

September 23, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Looks like Chipper will back into the batting title. Better to win it on the field than on the bench.

You must also think that George Brett backed his way into hitting .390 in 1980. Chipper has more PAs and 10 less at bats this year than Brett did in 1980.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

don, there is a minimum plate appearance requirement. If he reaches it and has the highest batting average, he wins the batting title. It is what it is.

By Braveheart

September 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Shaun, you’ll like this about the quality of preseason predictions:

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/saberistspredictbetterthaninsiders/

By Lew

September 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

It went down to the high 20’s here last night. Summer is definitely over up North. I even had to use some of that $5 a gallon heating oil this morning. Oh well, looks like the snow tires will go on in a couple weeks.

Hate to agree with Coach, but this shoulder issue with Chipper is worrisome. Hope it’s not anything that requires surgery.

I watched the Phillies’ feed last night on Extra Innings (why are they still advertising for the package with 5 games left?). The Home Run call, even with decent replays was close and should have been reviewed. Why have it if they’re not going to use it? That play was supposed to be the reason it was instituted to begin with.

As for the play at the plate-Sammons DID block the plate, but not well. If you watched the play closely in slow mo, you could see that the real problem for the Braves was Infante’s throw coming in high. Blocked plate or no, he slid right under the tag-EASILY. Had the throw been at knee level instead of shoulder level, Sammons MAY have had a play.

I mentioned yesterday that the Braves’ PR Department was interested in us doing a Hank Aaron Wurlitzer presentation. Anyone with good pictures of Hank, please email them to me at LewHartman@comcast.net. We’re going to try for a presentation where the Denizens are involved. Also email me any ideas y’all have about how you’d like to see this presentation done.

By McFann Ô

September 23, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Savannah Guy Useful technology is once again trumped by the need for ultimate control. The umps don’t like it.

I think you’re correct there. I don’t like it, either. Ditch instant-replay!!

Richbrave—

Hmm…thanks for the info. That’s int’resting.

Boy, Bobby was ticked, eh? Any coinky-dinky he pinch-hit for Sammons in the next inning?

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Braveheart, interesting. It makes since and I’m not at all surprised. A system that is able to take into account a number of factors should be expected to predict/project better than a person eyeballing rosters and relying only on their own understanding in order to forecast.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

LEW i disagree on the play at the plate with sammons. martin prado fielded the ball and was thinking home the whole time. after the ball was hit, sammons kind of stood up and looked towards the infield, as if to watch a double play happen. he wasnt expecting a throw, and so he wasnt ready for a play at the plate. he didnt block the plate at all, his foot was on it, not in front of it, and the throw beat the runner by a mile. it was an error that put the guy on third, but that run scoring was 100% sammons fault.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Braveheart, the thing is, I’m sure people will still criticize PECOTA because it wasn’t perfect or simply because it’s “not human”. Even though that piece you posted shows that it was clearly better than people who make their predictions by eyeballing rosters.

Here is the Vegas Watch link to which that piece refers. It’s quite interesting.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

since=sense in that 10:06 post.

By LivininAL

September 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

DOB What kind of salary do you think Hampton will command next year? And would you venture a guess as to where?

By Lew

September 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

DAP-Doesn’t matter that the plate was blocked or not. The throw was way high (I had to listen to ten minutes of Phillie’s analysis-they even commented after watching the play ten times, that he HAD blocked the plate). He would have had to lay across the plate to keep him from sliding under the tag. A lower throw MIGHT have gotten him, but it is doubtful (not to mention the running start he had). Moot point, anyway. They still had a three run pad even without it. Lousy relief pitching and poor play execution by Bennett killed that game, NOT the play at the plate. Another quality start shot to hell and back by the pen.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

LEW i meant to make sure i said last time that it definetly wasnt the throw. the throw was there in plenty of time. it could have been a little lower, but it was chest high, not a terrible throw, and, it beat the runner. sammons head wasnt in the play. 100% his fault that run scored.

By Savannah Guy

September 23, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

McFann, I actually do want the replay and wish it would be used for more than just home runs.

Note, I didn’t say I liked it. I just trust the camera more than the current regime of umps. MLB needs to seize control over the umpire union in a way that takes all doubt of corruption out of the equation. Don’t think it could happen? Do you watch basketball? Did you catch Eric Gregg’s plate calling in the Florida series?

Anyway, as a (somewhat) baseball traditionalist I really don’t like the replay idea as a permanent solution, only as an intervention until the umpires are held accountable and until they quit inserting themselves into the controversial outcome of so many plays and so many unnecessary ejections.

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Rico, Philly is a good town. Especially so when the weather’s perfect, like today (and yesterday, before the late afternoon clouds rolled in).

Hey, go get a steak at The Saloon on Seventh St. The real deal.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

DAP and Lew, losing is a team effort. Here are why the Braves lost: They scored only two runs, giving up a leadoff single with the game tied in the eighth, the throwing error by Bennett, Sammons not being in a good position to tag the runner, the homer allowed by Tavarez.

It’s simplistic to narrow any game down to one play or even two plays.

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

LivininAL: Really don’t have a good idea what Hampton will command in salary. Can’t really compare him to any recent similar cases in the past few years, at least none that come to mind.

Lew: If you watched replays of the play at the plate and you believe Sammons blocked the plate properly, or blocked the plate at all, well, I don’t know what to say to that. Other than, with all due respect, you’re wrong.

By Lew

September 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

DAP-Go back and watch the play again. The guy slid under the tag despite the throw beating the runner. Like I said, the Phillies replayed it eight or nine times with attendant commentary on just how much the Braves suck. It was a terrible play no matter how you view it, but without the preceding error, it would not have happened. Yet another game thrown away by inept play and lousy relief pitching-not that it is surprising anymore. I’m beginning to believe that even omitting the fatigue factor, our bullpen is not very good and needs considerable revision over the winter. It is amazing just how many quality starts this year have come to naught because of the pen.

BTW-Why was McCann NOT in the game? Maybe I missed any discussion on the reason, but it made damn little sense to me. For crying out loud, there’s a week left before he gets plenty of rest.

By Random

September 23, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

DOB: “I think the Braves might have gotten screwed on that one. At the least, they should’ve have reviewed it. Once the point of having the technology?”

All right, DOB, come clean — you dictated this comment and somebody else typed and posted it, right?

Seems more like a slip of the ear & tongue than a slip of the fingers.

No big deal, nothin wrong with that — but I can’t imagine any other way to get from “What’s the point …” to “Once the point …”

Coach: “Wisdom comes with age, experience is earned and youth is folly.”

I’d bet you’d trade your vast stores of the first two for another shot at the third.

By Lew

September 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

DOB-Like I said, it was a moot point. Even had he blocked the plate PROPERLY (which he didn’t -he looked like a deer in the headlights), the throw still would have enabled the runner to slide underneath. It was, as Shaun said, a team effort in losing.

Shaun-I also said earlier that that particular play was not the reason they lost. However, why not discuss the play? Just because there were other factors leading to the loss-perhaps much more significant than that play-it doesn’t mean that we can’t discuss it, any more than not discussing the Non-Home Run call.

Hey, it’s a slow day at the end of a radically forgettable season, where much has gone wrong and little has gone the way it was envisioned. This goes beyond not seeing the forest for the trees, but not seeing the forest for the pine needles. Let us not get too caught up on trivialities. The game sucked-AGAIN. I’m more interested in seeing what moves are taken to remedy the situation. I certainly do not want another year as a bookend to 08. Another season like this and I might not be such a pleasant person anymore. Right?

By JC from UT

September 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

So Chipper says he is open to switching positions. Any chance this will really happen and trade Kotchman? Who would play 3rd? I don’t think Prado or Infante hit with enough power to play ther everyday.

By Brian

September 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Coach- No offense, but are you or were you one of those jock loving HS coaches that thinks he knows EVERYTHING? Trade Chipper? Are you on dope? I’m really sick of your smart a* comments on people and TRYING to degrade someone you don’t even know!! Oh, and I’m twenty six, will you forgive my young ignorance too?

By DAP

September 23, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

shaun It’s simplistic to narrow any game down to one play or even two plays.

is it simplistic to evaluate one play based on that play? all lew and i are talking about is the play. no one said said this is why we lost the game, i said this is why the run scored. we are taking the one play, out of context of the rest of the game, and discussing it. thats all. so butt out. you really tend to insert yourself in convos on here, and take the discussion to a different place it was never going just so you can try to make a final point. quit it.

lew we agree it was a terrible play, and really, it was embarrassing. pathetic.

By ncscoots

September 23, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Any chance this [Chipper moving to 1B] will really happen and trade Kotchman?

Depends on whether you want Prado manning 3B for 30 games or Norton manning 1B for 30 games. I vote for Prado, my own self.

If it’s possible to find a 3B to replace Chipper’s offense, I would think it would just as easy to find a 1B upgrading Kotchman’s offense.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Kotchman. He’s gifted defensively and has some pop in his bat, but he’s not the offensive thug one would like to see at a corner. Put some bangers around him, and I got no problem with him at all.

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

JC, as I said, I’ve heard of no plans whatsoever to have Chipper change positions for 2009, to become a regular 1B. Wren traded for Kotchman under the assumption he’d be the 1B for at least two or three years at a cheap rate. They’re not pulling the plug on Kotchman because he struggled in that first month or so after coming to the Braves.

So personally, I’m not going to spend a lot of time discussing who’d play 3B. Chipper will play 3B next season, at least the primary 3B. And you’re right — neither Infante or Prado hits enough to play the position regularly, and neither is great defensively over there, either.

But again, I’m of understanding that Chipper’s the 3B and Kotchman the 1B for 2009, and that’s pretty well set in stone.

By Bring me the Head of Francisco Cabrera

September 23, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

DAP, you’ve really got Shaun figured out, except for your simplistic notion that he can be persuaded to “quit it.”

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Random, it was just a simple typo. happens when you’re working on a game story while switching screens and typing things off the cuff on the blog simultaneously. No editor for blog. And no, certainly no one to take dictation. What, you think I’ve got an assistant who travels with me and sits next to me taking notes or dictation?

(That’d be nice, actually. You available? All the free soft drinks and bad coffee you can consume in the pressbox.)

By Lew

September 23, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

If truth be known, my biggest concern right now is that my Retirement Fund not take a huge hit and NOT Sammons’ defensive abilities (which I have yet to see). I’m thinking those inflation linked Bonds are a good investment right about now.

By McFann Ô

September 23, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Savannah Guy—

I hear ya. And I know what you mean. The umps this year have been pretty bad.

If you’ve got the replay, then use it. But I don’t like it as a permanent thing, either.

No, I don’t watch much basketball. The guys running back and forth for an hour or however long it is just doesn’t send me. Nothing against the game, just think it’s kinda boring. But I’d rather watch that than hockey.

Anyway, yeah, these umps need to start being held a little more accountable, I think. I mean, I respect them (most of the time), I’m sure the job’s not “easy”, but really—some of these calls are quite ridiculous.

Lew—

McCann not playing didn’t make sense to me, either (obviously). I mean really, there’s not that many games left. And sheesh, they’re about to get what—five months off?

You didn’t miss a discussion. I think Bobby rested him just…because. I don’t know…I guess there’s a little Clint Hurdle in every manager.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

scoots If it’s possible to find a 3B to replace Chipper’s offense, I would think it would just as easy to find a 1B upgrading Kotchman’s offense.

maybe one solution would be to sign casey blake to play LF. he could fill in well on all the corners.

By McFann Ô

September 23, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

DOB (That’d be nice, actually. You available? All the free soft drinks and bad coffee you can consume in the pressbox.)

Haha!! Now that was funny.

By Jersey Gil

September 23, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

LEW I Agree in some point in that Play, the throw was chest high, he was in front of the plate, but one other Play that nobody mention was in the Second inning, when Victorino score with a grounder to Kelly, the Infield was half way and Ruiz hit that ball hard to kelly and kelly bobble, he was ready to throw to plate, that another run that score, if kelly throw to plate we don’t know what happen, we all expeculated. I been watching the Phillis as much of The Bravo, but the phillis team is hard to beat in close score.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

mcfann I guess there’s a little Clint Hurdle in every manager.

i laughed at that.

By Random

September 23, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

DAP September 23, 2008 11:27 AM

That ain’t the DAP I know.

Easy does it, chum. Serenity now!!!

DOB: “What, you think I’ve got an assistant who travels with me and sits next to me taking notes or dictation?”

Well that of course was our next question.

“You available?” I’d be a better minion than a steno. Let me know if you’ve got an opening.

By Kentavo

September 23, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

The Braves and my horrible co-ed softball team actaully share quite a bit in common.

By dean Evanson

September 23, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

hey chipper we are not blind you have been tanking it for the last 40 games just so you can win the batting title how many phantom injuries does this make why don’t you try and win the title like a man instead of wincing and grimacing so you look hurt so you can ride out two or three games at a time what a p***

By ncscoots

September 23, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

maybe one solution would be to sign casey blake to play LF. he could fill in well on all the corners.

Right solution to the wrong problem. If the Braves needed a 4th OF, Blake fits the bill. They don’t, and he doesn’t.

If Brandon Jones can handle being on the bench, he’s a better option than that.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

no one said said this is why we lost the game, i said this is why the run scored.

No, but you did say this:

it was an error that put the guy on third, but that run scoring was 100% Sammons’ fault.

Bennett allowed the leadoff hit to Dobbs (and Golson pinch-ran). Bennett threw the ball away. Those two events certainly deserve some attention. So I don’t think it’s correct to say the run was 100 percent Sammons fault. Yes, he deserves some blame. As does Bennett. And the Braves as a team deserve some blame for only scoring two runs and Tavarez deserves some blame for giving up the homer. That was my point.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

random haha. thanx, man.

By Lew

September 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Gil-You’re right-Kelly looked like a deer in the headlights on that play-for at least the second time in a week. I really like him, but I would much rather put him back in left (can’t be much worse than Diaz or Infante there) and find a stud fielding 2B. Hope your wife didn’t give you too much grief this season about the Phillies’ record against us.

McFann-thanks for the McCann info. Maybe if we had a double header today or at least, a day game where Mac was absolutely needed, but it made no sense at all to sit him with all of six games remaining. Oh well-what did or does it really matter at this point? The season could end today for all yesterday’s game really matters in the scheme of this season. A win last night wouldn’t have even provided Lipstick for this particular Pig (don’t y’all love the thinly disguised Political Commentary?).

By Lew

September 23, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

DOB-I don’t know about taking dictation, but have you ever considered submitting illustrated blogs and game stories? I think we could pull it off and no one else in baseball does it that way. Think of the publicity-and I don’t even drink coffee OR soft drinks. Do they have bottled water or juice?

By Random

September 23, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

dean Evanson: “hey chipper we are not blind you have been tanking it for the last 40 games just so you can win the batting title how many phantom injuries does this make why don’t you try and win the title like a man instead of wincing and grimacing so you look hurt so you can ride out two or three games at a time what a p—-“

DOB — I prefer Goo Boy (or -shudder- Robert) to this ignorant, hateful idiot.

By DAP

September 23, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

shaun taking just that play, which is what i was doing, its was sammons fault. 100%.

scoots why do you consider blake a 4th outfielder? he’s got pretty good numbers this year, and would be our best hitting outfielder if we had him! just curious.

By flange1

September 23, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Lew and McFann,

The decision to start Sammons last night is even more puzzling when you see Cole Hammels pitching tonight.

If you were going to give BMac a night off, why not against the tough lefty?

We all know how much Bobby likes his lefty/righty match up thing………

By BravesFanInRockies

September 23, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

dean Evanson

It’s called punctuation. Learn to use it.

By MGL

September 23, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

flange1 - You are right, Bobby will probably start Corky tonight.

By Jersey Gil

September 23, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Lew She was civil, but my sorprise last night was that not to many Phillis Fan give me hardtime, i was sourender with good Baseball people, was fun. Agree with kelly he will move to Left next year or be trade for a good Pitcher. I’m planing to go to Puerto Rico gor the Classic in March next year.

By Shaun

September 23, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

shaun taking just that play, which is what i was doing, its was sammons fault. 100%.

You also said, “it was an error that put the guy on third, but that run scoring was 100% Sammons’ fault.”

I’m just saying that run scoring was not 100 percent Sammons’ fault.

But this whole thing is silly. I think we all realize the loss was a team effort.

By McFann Ô

September 23, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

DAP—

Thanks!

Lew—

You’re welcome. You’re correct: It made no sense at all— Doubleheader, DGANG, that would have made sense—but in the grand scheme of the season, what did it cost save an extra chance to pad the Silver Slugger numbers?

I would’ve liked a win last night, but oh well…Que será será. (Is that how that goes?)

Flange1—

Agreed, although J.A. Happ is a lefty. But Hamels is tough.

Course, McCann has a career .421 AVG and a .684 SLG against Hamels (5 doubles). Whatever…I hope BMac gets a couple of hits with RISP tonight—like I said, pad those Silver Slugger numbers.

MGL—

LOL!

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

CNN showing its morning news meeting … man, I hate that kind of patting-self-on-back thing. Hate it on ESPN, CNN, anywheere. Because you know the folks sitting around the table discussing a story and its relative merits are so aware that a camera is running and this is going to be shown to everyone watching CNN, hence removing the “reality” of the scene. Much as the “reality” of any so-called reality TV is removed.

By McFann Ô

September 23, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

BTW—

The 5 doubles off Hamels is McCann’s highest total off any pitcher (next in line is 4 off Pelfrey).

Ha…And the funny thing about that double he hit last night was that when he made contact, I said, “Please be a double!”

Well, OK, the umps gave me a double. But I would have gladly taken a homer!

; )

By DAP

September 23, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

shaun But this whole thing is silly. I think we all realize the loss was a team effort.

you are right about this being silly, especially since you are arguing with yourself about the reason the braves lost the game. thats not what im talking about, and i never was.

I’m just saying that run scoring was not 100 percent Sammons’ fault.

in the context which i was discussing it, my opinion is that it was. lew thinks the throw had something to do with it. thats fine. your input considering how the runner got there, and how many runs the braves scored doesnt mean anyting when we only consider that play.

You also said, “it was an error that put the guy on third, but that run scoring was 100% Sammons’ fault.”

yeah i said that, and i was clearly isolating that particular play.

By Goodoleboy58

September 23, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

In regards to Sammons blocking the plate… if you watch the replay he wasn’t even in position to take the throw until it was almost to him. No way could he have blocked the plate adequately he was day-dreaming.

By Braveheart

September 23, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

CNN showing its morning news meeting … man, I hate that kind of patting-self-on-back thing. Hate it on ESPN, CNN, anywheere.

I hate it as well but I think they do it well on that TMZ show.

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, so true. Never saw that show until about two weeks ago, was flipping through channels and happened upon it. Damn, it’s pretty addictive, that crap. Really is. They do it perfectly. Very titillating.

By Brian

September 23, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

CNN SUCKS…Bill ‘O Reily eats CNN for breakfast!!

By jed

September 23, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

TV news is a freakin’ joke, an endless ratings game. how about we find objective intelligent people to discuss the candidates’ policies, speeches, etcetera? PHD’s in poli sci, economics & public policy perhaps? that would be reasonable. but they think that would be dull, so all they give us is republican talking heads vs. democrat talking heads, so that we can watch them argue. what are we, children? it’s thoroughly uninforming. a thorough failure of journalism. and the failure of journalism does not bode well for a democracy.

By Braint

September 23, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

If reality TV was truly reality or improvisation - there would be no writers listed in the credits.

ALL reality TV is scripted.

By Brian

September 23, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Of course TV “reality” is scripted! Who would sit and watch a bunch of spoiled brats backstab each other when the other is in another country! Man, I can’t stand Spencer’s sister!! Poor Lauren

By David O'Brien

September 23, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

NEW BLOGGAGE

By Jurrjens Doctor

September 23, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

dob- any plans to shut down Jair? oh yea, last week of the season? 22 year old with a history of shoulder problems? Only starter penciled in for next season? Whats that you say?

By Savannah Guy

September 23, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

The Sci-fi channel offers as much reality as today’s TV news, no matter the channel. With fiction, you know the story is not real, you know the players are acting, the sets are props or digital creations and you know the words of the actors are carefully scripted to make you believe the untrue story.

Much like politics.

That’s just another reason to watch baseball… and to varying degrees, all sports that we enjoy. Barring crooked umps or the rare player on the take, sports is unscripted, unpredictable and live. We can speculate ahead of time based on all the stats and injuries and such, but we don’t know the end result and we have no idea the score or how it’s all going to play out. Well, unless Blaine is on the mound anyway.

Baseball… the ultimate reality TV.

By Curtis Jones

September 23, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Mets management should file a formal complaint about the half-a$$ lineup fielded by Cox Monday night in Philly.

In a game that still means something in a pennant race, how do you sit McCann (and Norton for that matter) and have people like Sammons and Lillibridge in the lineup?

That lineup was a joke. You can criticize some of the defensive plays and bullpen failures, but with a bunch of banjo-hitting utility men and minor leaguers in the lineup, you’re not going to score more than 2. There should be rules against mismatches like last night. Proven hitters, who are not injured, should be in the lineup in games that matter! McCann will have five months to “rest.”

By Randy

September 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Got to disagree with you on the TV shows. Maybe I’m just getting older, but I can’t get into any of the aformentioned shows.

Mad Men. Great if you like to watch guys sit around and smoke. Me I prefer to watch paint dry.

30 Rock & The Office. It’s like they try too hard to appear smart. Instead they appear contrived. Here’s the reason why those shows don’t do better. People don’t like Tina Fey and Steve Carrell. Or maybe it’s just me.

Entourage. If I want to watch a bunch of whiny punks, I’ll take a trip to Scottdale.

House. It’s good, but it isn’t like I’ll sit through an hour of it to hear one funny quip.

Can’t say I’ve seen Damages, but I do like Glen Close. She is Ugly/Sexy. Strange, but true.

By Ed Glennon

September 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

It is too bad Casey has been with the team two months. If he had just been with us one month we could have said he is averaging one homerun a month. It makes the math a lot easier for liberal arts majors.