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DEL.ICIO.USBraves Nation must know: Will Sammy displace Corky?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The trade deadline has passed, August is here, the fourth-place Braves have conceded they are out of contention, and the question on the minds of Braves Nation is this: Who’s catching tonight, “Sammy” or “Corky”?
Why would I use quotation marks around Corky, when that’s his actual name? This is a question for which there is probably no satisfactory answer, much like: “How has an .094 hitter remained on the major league roster all season?”
But anyway, will the tools of ignorance — baseball jargon for the dog days — be worn tonight rookie catcher Clint Sammons, who went 3-for-4 with a homer and three RBI last night in his second start this season?
Or will the starting nod go to grizzled journeyman backup Corky Miller, who is 5-for-43 (.094) with one homer and three RBIs all season? Stay tuned. We’ll let you known in an hour or so.
By the way, the catching reins could be handed back to All-Star Brian McCann by Monday, when the Braves open a two-city road trip at San Francisco (we’re gonna have highs in the 60s in ‘Frisco, then highs of 105-110 when we get to Phoenix).
Mac’s progressing well in his recovery from the concussion he sustained in his collision with Shane Victorino Sunday in Philly, and was supposed to see the doc last night to see about getting clearance to pinch-hit this weekend and resume starting duties next week. I’ll let you know how that went later today.
In the meantime, Sammy or Corky tonight? What’s your guess? I’m going with Sammons. The Braves want to take a look at a few young players over the last two months of the season, and I think Sammons might be one of them. Could he be slotted for the backup job next season? Don’t see any reason why not.
The Braves wanted the former UGA player (and former Parkview High quarterback) to get a solid year of work in Triple-A to continue learning to handle pitchers, and he’s done that.
Tonight’s game: It’s been a while since we’ve seen Chuck James, and a whole lot has transpired with these Braves since he was banished to Triple-A following his May 15 start at Philly when he gave up five runs and three homers in four innings and said he flat-out felt needed to learn to pitch again.
He went 2-3 with an 8.22 ERA in five starts for the Braves in April and May, but James has gotten back on track at Richmond, going 4-5 with a 2.48 ERA in 14 games, including 1-1 with a 2.12 ERA in his past three starts, with 17 strikeouts and five walks.
The little lefty has regained his arm strength and hasn’t had issues with his pitching shoulder (it was a partial rotator cuff last fall that played a big part in his decline, and prevented him from preparing for this season).
With all the question marks the Braves have in their rotation for next season, James might be getting an early audition for job consideration. Keep in mind, he won 11 games each of his first two seasons in the majors (2006-07), and was a quality pitcher before the homer totals soared with his ERA.
In his last 13 major league starts, James has allowed a staggering 21 homers in 62-2/3 innings, going 4-5 with a 6.75 ERA in that span.
If you’re looking for a positive, other than his progress at Richmond, here’s another couple of points to consider: Chuck is 4-0 with a 2.70 ERA in his past four home starts. He really is. He only gave up three homers in 23-1/3 innings in those four games, two starts in September and two in April.
(On the road? Oh, my. He’s 0-3 with a 9.47 ERA in his past six road starts, three last season and three this season, with 30 hits, 10 homers and 12 walks allowed in 25-2/3 innings.)
Two other reasons for Braves fans to have legit reason to believe tonight: Milwaukee starter Jeff Suppan is 1-3 with a 9.10 ERA in in his past six starts, and 1-5 with a 5.61 ERA in six career starts against the Braves.
By the way, the Brewers had a 2.22 ERA and hit .285 with 12 homers during an eight-game winning streak through July 24. Since then they are 1-6 with a 6.43 ERA and .228 batting average, including a current five-game losing skid (they were just swept in a four-gamer against the Cubs at Milwaukee).
Got this letter from a fan: Not everyone has converted to the blogosphere. Some still prefer to send an e-mail or, believe it or not, a letter (I still have a few waiting in my mailbox each time I stop by the office).
Here’s an e-mail that was forwarded to me, written on July 25. The guy said I could use it in the blog. We didn’t edit or add the elipses or anything else, other than replacing some of the numbers with X’s in his phone number.
Subj: Bobby Cox.
In today’s sports page David O’Brien in his article “Braves left behind by breaks” points out that there are many bloggers and venters calling for Bobby Cox to be fired. I wasn’t aware of this. I do not read blogs or vents. I don’t read anything less than twenty words. If you believe you can state a position in twenty words or less, you’re an idiot or a Carl Rove sound-byte technician.
Bobby Cox has created a culture throughout the Braves system. When a minor league player makes it to the big show with Cox’s Braves, he blends in; he knows how to play and how to carry himself. Bobby Cox is all about loyalty and character. These bloggers and venters are not baseball fans, they’re more like buzzards; mindlessly circling the stadium looking for a kill to feast on.
No, I don’t agree with every call Bobby makes during a game. But, let me tell you, as long as he wants to manage … not only let him, but honor the man while he’s here.
David Myler (Snellville 404-2XX-XXXX)
Manny circus leaves town: Doc Holliday, Shaun and other regulars on the blog were debating the big Manny Ramirez-to-L.A. Dodgers three-team trade, and Doc and some were arguing that the Red Sox are a lesser team now because Jason Bay is no Manny, etc.
Anyway, thought I’d chime in.
Bay’s not a Hall of Fame player and Manny is; everyone, I assume, can agree on that. But as much as a segment of bloggers here often states and apparently believes that clubhouse chemistry and attitude mean little, it’s not true. Particularly in extreme cases, prima donnas can become more trouble than they’re worth, can pass the point of diminishing return. Manny is a case study.
When it comes to someone who so blatantly ignores team rules and clubhouse decorum, flaunts his status, and time and time again makes a spectacle of himself with no apparent regard for game situations and little personal regard for the importance of winning, when one takes his behavior to such an extreme that even the adoring fans at Fenway boo one of their own, long-term superstars, well, then the situation has become so dire, the distraction so great, the risk too high for a team that needs to have everyone on the same page in order to win in a competitive division and in what promises to be a rigorous postseason test.
By the way, speaking of stats, since the 2006 All-Star break, Jason Bay has hit .268 with 122 extra-base hits, 57 homers, 191 RBI and 197 runs, with a .474 slugging percentage and, though not overly important, 16 steals in 17 attempts.
In that period, Manny has hit .305 with 109 extra-base hits, 51 homers, 193 RBI and 177 runs, with a .527 slugging percentage and one steal in one attempt.
I think a few of you are letting Manny’s unbelievably productive decade from 1995 to 2005 skew your opinion of this trade, and your view of him in the present. He’s 36 and tailing off significantly (just look at his numbers the past couple of seasons, compared to those previous years).
You should not just ignore declining production, enormous salary, outrageous behavior and legit concerns that the player is not going to play hard in crucial situations. You can’t. The Red Sox decided they couldn’t, or wouldn’t, and that they did not want to deal with it anymore.
Dog-days diversions: Finally had a chance to listen to a few CDs I picked up recently, and here’s three new ones I’d recommend: Beck’s Modern Guilt (co-produced by him and Danger Mouse), Partie Traumatic by Black Kids (sounds very much like great ‘80s-era new wave/post-punk stuff like The Cure), and Fire Songs by The Watson Twins, a solid alt-country/rock set by the ladies who did an album with Rilo Kiley’s Jenny Lewis a couple years back. What does this one sound like? I’m thinking Byrds, Gram Parsons, early Neil. Also, speaking of The Cure, there’s an improbable, unusual, cover of the Cure’s “Just Like Heaven” on this CD that actually sounds great.)
”BACK TO TUPELO” by Mark Knopfler
Around the time of “Clambake”
Movie number twenty-five
You and the lying Dutchman
are still in overdrive
You’re as strong as when you started
Mississippi in your soul
You can still be Marlon Brando
and the king of rock and roll
It isn’t just the records
No, you must have Hollywood
The songs alone are not enough
That much is understood
You’ll soon be back in Memphis
Maybe then you’ll know what to do
The storylines they’re giving you
are just not ringing true
Oh, it’s a ways to go
back to Tupelo
When you’re young and beautiful
Your dreams are all ideals
Later on it’s not the same
Lord, everything is real
Sixteen hundred miles of highway
roll back to the truth
And a song to give your mother
in your first recording booth
Around the time of “Clambake”
that old dream’s still rolling on
Sometimes there’ll be the feeling
things are going wrong
The morning star is fading
Lord, the Mississippi’s cold
You can still be Marlon Brando
and the king of rock and roll
But it’s a ways to go
back to Tupelo
Comments
By reron-nj
August 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Please, please no more corky
By Joe
August 1, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Jeez, hate to say “I told you so,” about Sammons for the last 3 months, but it is so sad to think that we could have had a competent batter and fielder playing during McCann’s “off-days” rather than the scrub that is still taking space on our roster.
I think Miller’s prolonged call-up this season, more than any in-game decisions, shows that Bobby has clearly lost it.
Nobody thinks Sammons is going to come in and bat .340, but he can be a serviceable .250 backup in the Damon Berryhill mold, who will not absolutely kill us in Mac’s absence the way C*rky has all year.
Mac also will not be forced to warm up and pinch hit on his “off-days” anymore.
This move was a long time coming and I hate that it took McCann getting hurt for Bobby/Wren to see the light. I shudder to think about the fact that had Mac gotten hurt, we may have actually seen Corky Miller on a major league roster all season long. Ridiculous.
By BA
August 1, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
DOB, unfortunately your letter didn’t print, which stinks, because I was looking forward to reading it.
By DAP
August 1, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
shaun “I’m wrong”
mark your calenders, folks.
By N8
August 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
DOB
David Myler, in his letter to you wrote:
“I do not read blogs or vents. I don’t read anything less than twenty words. If you believe you can state a position in twenty words or less, you’re an idiot or a Carl Rove sound-byte technician.”
Did you write back to him, stating that guys like me, NEVER use less than 20 words? Secondly, it’s clear that he doesn’t read the blog, with the incorrectly stated “you’re an idiot” at the end.
(sigh) Time to get with the 90’s…..er….00’s, Mr. Myler.
By Chuck
August 1, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
Any updates on Chipper? Just wondering if he looks like he’ll be ready to come back when he comes off the DL. And by the way Sammons should be starting tonight with out a doubt!
By The Scatman
August 1, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
The true purpose of Corky
In the circus, when a tragedy or near-tragedy occurs, they send in the Clowns to distract the paying customers.
Here’s Corky…beep beep!
By Shaun
August 1, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
For this trade in particular it cost the Sox more than any other team. They gave up 2 prospects, covered all of Ramirez’s remaining salary and picked up Bay’s salary. Quite a hefty tab. The Pirates got their 4 young guys. The Dodgers have a free outfielder. The Sox picked up this tab.
The prospects the Sox gave up weren’t key prospects. Moss projects as a fourth-outfielder/platoon type player. Hansen is a reliever that hasn’t shown much promise so far. In other words, the Red Sox didn’t impact themselves that much in order to make this trade happen. Yes, a fairly hefty tab. But not all that hefty for a slight upgrade in leftfielders, no drama and more youth.
I do have a question though, if the Braves shouldn’t give up 4 (or even 5) prospects for a player they have control over for two play off runs in this case, as would be the case with Bay, why was it the right move, as you so adamantly argued, for the Braves to acquire Teixeira for 4 or 5 prospects? In both cases they would have been fulfilling this mandate of yours: If a player [Bay/Teixeira] is better than the one you’ve got [Blanco/Franco] and you can get him, then go get him
The Braves were a whole lot closer to the playoffs when they made the Teixeira trade (only 3.5 games out) than they were this season when they went after Bay. Plus, Teixeira is probably more talented than Bay or appeared to be at the time.
Also, I should have said it depends on the prospects—how good they are and how expendable they are.
By Bawlmer Brave
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Glad to see Clint (my cousin’s name) get some playing time. Wow, what a difference! I realize it was only one game, but he’s nearly outhit Corny’s season totals in that one game, forget about homers and RBI.
By prattvillenolzfan
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Sammons had one good game…..
That means absolutely NOTHING to Bobby. He has defended Corky all year. He has cost us at least 10 games in the standings by continually starting him during Campillo’s starts. Even when we had “must win” series, he continued to bench McCann so he could “rest him for later in the year”.
Well guess what, the rest of the year means jack diddly to the Braves nation now.
If Cox played Corky during “must win” games during the season, what makes you think he is going to bench Miller now….. You can’t teach a dog new tricks..Cox will continue to do what he’s always done…Screw up the line-up….
Oh yea…I found it very amusing that Cox was quoted by DOB that he will play the “best line-up” against the division leaders…He would not roll over against them..Nor would he play younger/inexperienced call-ups against them….
Why didn’t you employ that attitude earlier in the year
By 18 Wheels of Love
August 1, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
LOVE the new Beck. Not as hard hitting as The Information but very, very good.
And what hasn’t Danger Mouse produced lately???
By roja
August 1, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
I can state my position in fewer than 20 words: Give Corky his unconditional release and while you’re at it, give Bobby his.
By Mark
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
DOB,
By TURTSNAP
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB, by the end of next weekend, you should have a nice summer cold coming on, with the vast Temp changes you will experience in SF and PHX. I remember last year I traveled out to SF in August, then came home to the 100 degree heat we were experiencing, and was sick within a few days. Hope it is different for you.
By Chad
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Re-post from the end of the last blog
Any possibility that the Braves would take Andruw back in a Mike Hampton type trade. Where most of the salary is absorbed by the Dodgers and/or another team?
Or has that bridge (Scott Boras) been burned?
By NoOrdinaryRabbit
August 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Joe Did you read DOB’s blog? Look at the number of at-bats Corky has had (I think it’s actually 54, not 43) but it is completely insignificant as far as the Braves season goes. He hasn’t played enough to make his woeful hitting mean anything. His presence hasn’t turned the Braves from winners to losers, nor has it turned Cox from a good manager to a bad one. He just doesn’t matter, except on this blog.
By Shaun
August 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
DOB, we pretty much agree on the Manny trade.
I will say this, though. I think the Red Sox would have dealt with whatever chemistry issues he caused if he was significantly a better player than any other options they could have traded for without giving up one of their top few prospects. After all, they did when Manny was putting up MVP type numbers.
By The Truth
August 1, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
As Clint has shown the past 2 starts, he’s loaded with potential and is superior to Corky (and many other catchers) defensively. He’s also got the game smarts to back it up. Keep Clint, let Corky go - simple as that.
By BravesFan79
August 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
I was one of the first people on here to diss Corky….at the beginning of the season i questioned Cox for keeping him over Lopez, and ESPECIALLY was p** when they let Pena go instead of Corky!
But many on this blog, including you DOB defended the decision…… not ONLY was it a terrible decision 2 let a young promising catcher go for a old guy that cant even hit .100 …it made Escobar go into a slump!
Actually i feel bad for Corky……..its funny everyone piles on him……..AFTER it dosent matter anymore!! Wheres the people now talking about his “defensive abilities” lol….. please….
I say we keep corky around….see how many games we can loose…..and get a better draft pick.
By Shaun
August 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
I hope Chuck James can solidify his place in the rotation for the next two months. I think James can be a decent major league pitcher and he gets a bad rap from a lot of folks on this here blog who think he should be a Cy Young candidate for some reason.
By Jeff321
August 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Bobby Cox has created a culture throughout the Braves system. When a minor league player makes it to the big show with Cox’s Braves, he blends in; he knows how to play and how to carry himself.
Hmmm, I guess this explains perfectly then why only a couple of Braves can bunt, eh?
Btw, I already read Sammons is starting tonight. I think it was on the Atlanta Braves/MLB site. (I’ve read a bunch of stuff today.)
By roja
August 1, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Anyone who has ever watched an MLB game can tell from simply observing COrky’s play that he does not belong in the bigs. In fact, he doesn’t even belong in the littles. I would bet you a week’s pay that he isn’t even good enough to make 1st string at UGA or GA Tech.
If Bobby wants to try my theory, call up his friends on the UGA staff and get them to give Corky a tryout next spring and see if he doesn’t end up getting cut from the team! Then, if he makes it as the UGA 1st string catcher, sign him to a Braves contract. If not, send him packing. My money is on him being cut!
By Rick
August 1, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
wHAT HAPPENED TO BRIAN PENA..????
By TennesseePaul
August 1, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
DOB: Love the Modern Guilt CD. Beck just keeps cranking them out.
The Watson Twins are a solid duo. They’re opening for Nada Surf next month. I might be headed to that one as well. The Pinback show last night was, well, incredible. They’ve really nailed down the live show from previous times I’ve seen them. Just all around good times last night. The venue was very nice. Great rock show.
On the Manny note, I agree. Manny wasn’t even running out ground balls there at the end. Nothing about his actions on the field or off the field had any team spirit in them. It’ll be interesting to see how he acts out here. I wonder if he’ll temper his actions in the new environment.
I don’t read anything less than twenty words.
Obviously not a blog reader.. otherwise he’d have see Nathan’s 15 page rants… but I suppose it did make for a good lead in to his less-than-20-word sound-byte technician political jab.
By Alan
August 1, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Corky’s cork has popped & he should hit the road. Bobby, however, has an irrational obsession about playing “veterans” this season, so it will not surprise me if Corky plays. Sad if it happens.
By TheCutMan
August 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
re: Corky or Clint? Duh.
re: Team execution of fundamentals and execution under B. Cox? Duh.
re: Braves’ chances for the remainder of 2008? Duh.
By BamaBrave
August 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
I was pulling for Corky to make the team out of spring training (man, that seems like a LONG time ago, doesn’t it?), but yes…enough is enough. Hello Sammons.
And F Manny Ramirez…F Brett Favre…F all of the spoiled, infantile jockstraps who’ve forgotten that they play team sports. Shame on them all. My sincere hope is that the Red Sox play .750 ball the rest of the way, now that they’ve successfully removed their cancer.
By KC
August 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
I’m in favor of Sammons instead of Corky, but must point out the following…
Sammons, in 287 AB’s at AAA this year, hit .237, with 1 homer. That’s against AAA pitchers.
So despite the great game he had yesterday, I wouldn’t look for much more offensively that what we were already getting from corky.
Having said that, he can’t be any worse offensively, and he might be a defensive upgrade. Corky was supposed to be a defensive specialist, but he hasn’t impressed behind the plate.
By Bobby's Cox
August 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
From last blog:
I mean do you know what a utility player is?..well Prado, Infante, Gotay were signed/traded for to play “utility roles”..they didn’t sign Greg Norton for his defensive prowess Einsten
Einstein, I thought you were dead. Maybe that’s the reason for the obvious drop in your IQ.
Prado wasn’t signed or traded for to be a backup. He was signed as a amateur free agent in 2001, meaning the braves signed a prospect out of Venezuela.
Prado was given to springs to compete for the starting job at 2nd base. He simply hit .354/.407/.479 in 2007 and . 342/.407/.452 in 2008. Yet management still decided to go with a guy that never played he position before.
Scoots says Prado wouldn’t have it over .500 AB. I say, you never know if you don’t try. But what we do know is KJ is a .265/.330/.390 hitter over 500 AB. I bet Prado out does that if given the shot. I’m afraid we’ll never find out. Sad. Oh well, he’ll just be another De Rosa on another team eventually.
BTW, Scoots thanks for the kind words two blogs ago. Fact of the matter is though, I’d be all over Lillibridges jock too, or anyone else for that matter, if he hit just as well as Prado did. I’m just sick of seeing KJ’s mediocre numbers and inconsistency at the plate when there’s a kid that’s done more than asked, yet still sits the bench as the offense continues to struggle.
Again, the offense has scored 7.14 runs per game in Prado’s 14 starts, more than 3 runs a game when he doesn’t start. Why not try it out? Oh yeah, in case someone brings up his defense again, the kid had a .995 fielding percentage in his last full year in AAA at 2nd base, in case it didn’t stick from my last 5 or so posts.
By roja
August 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
David Myler, here is one of the most eloquent positions ever expoused by the leader of the free world: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.
Those were 17 words that changed the world.
But you weren’t listening because it was less than 20 words.
By Tonight on TBS
August 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Clambake (1967)
Scott Heyward (Elvis Presley), whose the son of a millionaire, is tired of woman fawning over him because of his wealth, meets Tom (Will Hutchins), who’s on his way to his new job as a water skiing instructor at a hotel. They envy each other’s life and decide to switch places. So Scott pretends to be Tom and Tom lives it up pretending to be Scott. Scott meets Dianne (Shelley Fabares) who is trying to land a rich guy and when playboy James Jamison (Bill Bixby) catches her eye, she asks Scott to help her snag him. Scott agrees to but finds himself attracted to her. Scott also decides to build a boat for a speedboat race that’s going to take place in the hotel but he’s using a new experimental chemical which doesn’t hold in water, which his father forbade him to use.
By JEB
August 1, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
The Braves REALLY need to remedy this catcher situation! BMac NEEDS that 5th day off through the season to help prolong his career (and God forbid if BMac should get hurt or needs to rest a nagging injury). We can not have a catcher that is only a guy out there that catches the ball and throws it back to the pitcher! Corky is a .200 pt. drop off in BA every time he plays (from BMac). You cannot have a winning, competitive team for a 162 game season and have that in your lineup every 5th game! That is like conceding another loss every other series - that kills you over the course of a season. I honestly do not think the Braves have won a single game that Corky has started this year (only can remember the 17 inn. marathon with Houston and Bmac played more inn. than Corky did!) Corky is like having 2 pitcher spots in your batting order.
By Bobby's Cox
August 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Sammons had one good game….. pratvill
Good point…that’s 1 more good game than Corky’s had all year.
I think you’re right. I think they send the kid down, “so he can play everyday.”
By fastasballs
August 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Keeping Miller on the roster instead of other options continues the long line of head scratching roster decisions the Braves have made the past few seasons.
Was keeping the likes of Woodward over Escobar last season a worse move? Escobar had a great spring last year & was rewarded with having watch Woodward take his spot.
An even better question is why the Braves even sign these fringe major league players to start with. Their payroll is still a helluva lot higher than a lot of teams yet fill their bench with cast offs that nobody else would want.
The Marlins manage to have Helms & Gonzalez on their bench, yet have a 20M payroll.
Who gets the blame. JS, Wren, Cox? I’m sure these are shared decisions.
By Kevin in Chattanooga
August 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
DAVID,
Do you see the Braves giving Thomas Hanson or one of their other bright young arms a chance to start going down the stretch? Hey why not? Hanson has been on fire at AA.
By Joe
August 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Joe Did you read DOB’s blog? Look at the number of at-bats Corky has had (I think it’s actually 54, not 43) but it is completely insignificant as far as the Braves season goes. He hasn’t played enough to make his woeful hitting mean anything. His presence hasn’t turned the Braves from winners to losers, nor has it turned Cox from a good manager to a bad one. He just doesn’t matter, except on this blog
Hey, noordinaryrabbit…maybe with a decent backup B-Mc can save his knees for a season that matters? Wouldn’t it have been nice to have had a backup with 90 AB’s at .250, rather than Corky’s 50 at .092?
You have no argument for Corky Miller being on a major league roster. There is none, whatsoever.
By Steve
August 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Well unless the Braves are going to be playing a shot drinking game. Yes Sammy must replace Corky. Mr. Miller can’t even hit his weight.
By roja
August 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Why would the Braves want Andruw back? Other than the fact that he’s batting .163 and that’s higher than Corky.
By BravesFan79
August 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
with one homer and three RBIs all season?
Wow that reminds me of Woodcraps stats from last year! Its obvious to me over the past 2 seasons Bobby has no idea of whos hot, whos not, and just who plain SUCKS! Were all jumping on Corky today………(like ive been all year!) But the problem here isnt Corky, the problem here is Cox.
Not bringing Escobar up when Chipper first got hurt last spring, and dumping Pena for Corky were both turning points in the season!
Not only can Bobby not realize whos cold in the Pen (wickman in road games, soriano during his HR stretch, ect….) But NOW he dosent even know how to carry decent backup position players!
Why in the world give a Career .200 hitter the WHOLE season to turn it around!??
Bobby couldnt make a exception for Lopez? a fan favorite who could come off the bench and jack one out!?? But hell have Woodcrap and Corky around ALL YEAR!?? WTF
By Goodoleboy58
August 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Great Blog… We can tell the status of our season by the fact that our biggest news the day after the trading deadline is who our backup catcher should be lol… Alas in baseball there’s always tomorrow
By Steve
August 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Well unless the Braves are going to be playing a shot drinking game. Yes Sammy must replace Corky he can’t even hit his own weight.
By prattvillenolzfan
August 1, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Bravesfan79
We know you were one of the first to publicly diss Corky…
We know you were pi55ed about Pena being let go…
We know you’ve posted the same tired/lame/juvenile post about Escobar being upset…..
Trust me when I say us bloggers understand fully how you feel
We don’t need to be reminded of it every single blog
But bringing it up every single blog is really getting tiresome…Cox is not going to change his way of thinking/managing, so there’s really no reason to keep rehashing the same tired point….
If you want to bash Cox, or to question his decisions, he usually gives us new material at least 4/5 times a week
Be original….
By Bobby's Cox
August 1, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Why would I use quotation marks around Corky, when that’s his actual name? This is a question for which there is probably no satisfactory answer, much like: “How has an .094 hitter remained on the major league roster all season?”
Hilarious DOB. Well written.
By Random
August 1, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Minor reprise form previous bloggage:
Shaun: “Random, ignoring contracts and clubhouse drama and all of that, who would you rather the Braves have from this point until the end of 2009? Ramirez or Bay?”
Ramirez, even with the “clubhouse drama and all of that”. Seriously.
Aside from all the data we’ve been tossing around, my gut feeling is that Bay was a merely big fish in a small pond, whereas Ramirez is an effin shark. (The BB Prospectus article mentioned earlier is giving me a new perspective on Bay, though — I may not be so quick to dismiss him offensively as I have been).
I do think Ramirez will still be able to get it done significantly better offensively than Bay thru next year at least, and I would just hope that we could hide him defensively.
You know, like maybe trade away all our LH pitchers, or something.
8-)
Just joking — I really do like Ramirez better than Bay for this year and next.
Also, per that BBP article, “Bay’s defense, per Clay Davenport’s rankings, has fallen off of a cliff the past two seasons, and he rates as worse than Ramirez in this system. Even if Bay’s knee injury has taken its toll, it seems likely that the difference between them defensively is exaggerated statistically.”
I read the article you linked — it is by far the easiest to understand article on esoteric BB stats I’ve yet seen. Do you think they have similar explanations of VORP, Wins Over Replacement, Babdabbings, etc, on that site? Thanks for the link.
DOB: “Lee, I think there’s a good chance Sammons fills that backup catcher role next season… . I think we could (should) see him in that backup catcher role, perhaps catching one of next year’s five rotation starters on a regular basis.”
Bowman: “More importantly, during his past three starts, [Chuck] James has completed 17 innings, allowed four earned runs, recorded 17 strikeouts and issued just five walks… . Helping James realize this turnaround in Richmond was catcher Clint Sammons. Coming off his career-best three-hit performance, which included his first career homer, Sammons will be behind the plate again on Friday for the southpaw.”
A match made in heaven? Will tonight be a peek into next season?
We’ll see — here’s hoping they both can come through and be a big part of our success next year.
By TennesseePaul
August 1, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Also, I should have said it depends on the prospects—how good they are and how expendable they are.
Yes. You should have. Plus, you should have prefaced the “If you can get a good player, better than what you have, you get him” comment with, “only when you are within contention for a playoff spot. Otherwise, as initially stated, it was entirely a double standard.
From what has been “leaked” of the Braves/Bay deal it didn’t seem to be a deal that would have forfeited players that would be needed after the trade. B.Jones and Lillibridge would be unnecessary as Bay would block, or replace, Jones and Lillibridge was blocked by Yunel. A deal from strength.
As well as the Red Sox not giving up much in terms of minor league talent, the Dodgers didn’t either. Perhaps the Pirates didn’t think much of Lillibridge and Jones. Perhaps I’m biased towards the Braves prospects, but it would seem the Pirates passed up the better deal. Maybe this deal covered positions they were seeking? It’ll be nice though for the LaRoche family.
But no matter how you slice that trade, subtracting a hall of famer (head case or not) and 2 prospects (marginal or not) along with covering the tab of the out going star and picking up the tab of the incoming player, the Sox paid the most in this deal. The Dodgers actually reduced salary in this deal and picked up a star slugger. The Pirates remain the Pirates but now have a brother tandem on the field.
By NCBravesFan
August 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Makes sense to play Sammons - the Braves want to look at the talent they have, and clearly Corky has not made any kind of case for sticking around.
I’m pulling for Chuck tonight, if for no other reason the rally cry, “I’m Chuck James, B!tch!” has left a hole in the blog this year.
By BostonBravesGirl
August 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
DOB, so true, and Shaun’s got it right too in his 3:20 post - the Sox put up with Manny especially in 2004 and 2005 because his numbers were so good:
2003 33 HR, 107 RBI, .349 avg 2004 43 HR, 130 RBI, .308 avg (and MVP of the Series) 2005 45 HR, 144 RBI, .292 avg 2006 35 HR, 102 RBI, .321 avg 2007 20 HR, 88 RBI, .296 avg 2008 (all games he played for Sox) 20 HR, 68 RBI, .299 avg
The big difference now is his teammates were complaining AND Francona and the owners had run out of patience; the Sox are really duking it out with the Yanks and the Rays and it’s going to be close. I’ll bet you all the 50%-off Manny jerseys at Fenway that Bay will get a standing ovation tonight.
By OrlandoFan
August 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Chad: You want Andruw back?
By London Correspondent
August 1, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Sheesh. Will you people give it a rest over Corky! He isn’t the reason the Braves are where they are. He hasn’t caused us to lose 10 games all on his own. His 43 at-bats have not ruined the season.
Sammons has been in the minors so that he can play every day. This is quite normal. It is stupid to have your best young players sitting on the bench getting splinters - you get old cheap guys to do that while your youngsters are in the minors learning. THAT’S WHAT THE MINORS ARE FOR. Now the AAA season is pretty much over, Sammons may stay here, or he may go back down til the end of the season - either is reasonable.
And by the way, give up on the man-love for Pena, will you. He was a terrible catcher. He went through waivers twice and only the Royals were interested. Do you relly think 43 at-bats from him would have fixed the season?
By Renegator
August 1, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
NoOrdinaryRabbit
So in that game against St Louis when Corky came up with the bases loaded when the game was tied (or it was a 1 run game - I can’t remember) and he grounded out to SS instead of knocking in some runs - that didn’t matter.
KC
Even if Sammons only hits .200 in the majors it’s still twice what Corky is hitting. Plus, like you said - Corky’s defense has been suspect this year.
By Random
August 1, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
David Myler: “I don’t read anything less than twenty words. If you believe you can state a position in twenty words or less, you’re an idiot or a Carl Rove sound-byte technician.”
Screw David Myler.
By RedEyedAndBlueIfCorkyPlaysTonight
August 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Mr. Myler, while I may disagree with your point of view, you may have a future on the blog. Get this guy a computer.
By Warren S.
August 1, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Lay off Cox, you jerks. If you were so smart, you would be a major league manager. Winning with the senior age staff he has, is a miracle as far as I’m concerned. If you don’t like the sports teams here, go on back to New Yawk or Philthydelphia. No one asked you to come here and spout off your crap.
By Renegator
August 1, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
It makes logical sense to play Sammons which means that Bobby will probably play “his boy” Corky.
By Rick Long
August 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
The Braves have at least 3 players on their current roster who should be jettisoned as soon as possible: Corky Miller; Greg Norton and Julian Tavarez. Continuing to keep these guys on the roster and, worse yet, actually playing them rather than giving younger players who might have an upside a chance, it’s clear the team is in a rebuilding mode, is absurd. Then again, old Bobby sure does like his veterans (and favorites)
By i cant take it anymore
August 1, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
DAVID…Thanks for the great stat comparison b/w Bay and ramirez. Im going to use that one tonight when talking baseball with friends. they, too, still think manny is doing the type of stuff he was doing earlier on. ON other stuff…Do you think andruw is sweating his future now? Thanks for the great post, man
By jerry l
August 1, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Dump Cox. Enough is enough, Cox only has won 1 World Champ. when the Braves use to load up free agents. He cannot manage a struggling team
By D.M. from Snellville
August 1, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Well everyone in my family suggested that I actually go to this darned blog and find out what the heck is going on. Well all I see is a bunch of so called pre-verts that are out to sap the vital essence out of Braves nation. Corky this and Corky that. Well you people should shut the heck up. Bobby Cox is much smarter than any of you and he knows what he is doing. Heck, he will wind up in the Hall of Fame. Probably in the first round. So don’t criticize or second guess him. If Corky is on this team, you know there is a good reason for it. Mr. Bobby Cox is all about class and quality. He ain’t gonna be drinking anyone else’s milkshake. He can make his own, thank you very much. So enough about Corky. He’s on the team, Bobby wants him and Bobby believes in him. That’s good enough for me and that should be good enough for you if you were real Brave’s fans and not just a scurrilous murder of crows. You don’t know baseball. Bobby believes in the fundamentals and that’s why he carefully hand picks players such as Corky Miller. Corky plays baseball the right way. You won’t see him lollygagging down to first on a groundout. Heck, he would rather strike out than hurt the team by not getting down to first fast enough. You won’t see him flipping his bat after hitting a home run. And you won’t see him barrelling into the other team’s catcher when he’s trying to score on a throw from the outfield. No. He is a disciplined disciple of Mr. Cox - a player of class and quality. So Corky is here to stay and laugh if you want to but you won’t be laughing when you see Corky on the All Star team in a couple of years. I bet that under the tutelage of Bobby Cox and the esteemed Mr. Pendelton you’ll see Corky’s average rise steadily over the next several years: .100, .200, maybe .235 like Francoeur, .250, then .290 and eventually into the .300’s. His power numbers will also rise: his homerun total will double every year. Approximately. And his double total will quadruple. And he won’t do it by cheating or taking banned substances - he’ll do it the right way, the Cox way, by hard work and diligence and doing all the little things correctly. Look at the way he ties his shoes. The right way, if you hadn’t noticed. But you people are supposed to be such BIG baseball fans and you don’t even notice, let alone appreciate the way that Corky laces up his cleats. Baseball fans my @$$.
By Renegator
August 1, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Warren S.
Give us some examples of some smart things that Bobby Cox has done this year.
By Cecil34
August 1, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
A few thoughts concerning Manny…
He is the most disgusting looking major leaguer out there currently - a slovenly looking, unkempt ballplayer who obviously takes no pride in his appearance.
That alone is a distraction. Wears his uniform 3 sizes too big, hair flying everywhere, rosin-covered batting helmet…the epitomy of undisciplined.
Looks like he plays in his pajamas.
And all this before you even get to his attitude. What a mess.
Good luck Joe Torre, you got one for the looney bin. Call the team shrink.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
August 1, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Joe While I can agree Sammons is an upgrade over Corky Miller, you seem unable to grasp the concept of allowing a player to develop. Being sent to Richmond to accrue at-bats and hone his skills as a signal caller will be beneficial to both Sammons and the Braves in the long run. Call it an apprenticeship if you like but Sammons would not get an opportunity to become more skilled playing only one day a week.
Now as for Corky making the team to begin with, I thought there were several options available that were better than Miller but the Braves front office did not consult me on that one so they got what they paid for… or maybe not…
By Jack G
August 1, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Sammons is the obvious choice——having said that, ol Boby makes out the lineup so i’m betting on “Corky”
By McFann Ô
August 1, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the new Bloggage and the update on 3BMac, Chief!
Progressing well, you say? SO glad to hear it! I’m counting down the days until Monday. (Is it really only Friday?)
I can’t believe they’re starting the road trip in SF, with games on at 10 o’clock. Wish we were having 60° weather here, though!
Can’t wait for your next update—about how the doctor visit went! Hope they give it to you quick! ; >
I’m glad the Braves aren’t rushing his return like the Mets did with Church. But man, I’m ready to see him play again!
By Steve from OH
August 1, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Random, if you want explainations of some of the more esoteric stats, try this page. It’s off the firejoemorgan website but it does a pretty good job of explaining the stats and why they are important. If there are any others, you could simply go to google and search “define:(insert whatever you want to define)” and some explainations should pop up.
By David O'Brien
August 1, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Queens of the Stone Age’s Era Vulgaris is outstanding tuneage to drive through snarled Atlanta Friday afternoon traffic on a hot, humid day. Anger. Aggression.
By RedEyedAndBlueIfCorkyPlaysTonight
August 1, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
God help the other David Myler in Snellville if he’s listed in the phone book.
By PMC
August 1, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Given that the baseball season is over for the braves and thankfully next years backup catcher is solidified. Also watch your back KJ Prado and Infante could have your slot…. I thought I’d say I’ve enjoyed the musical selections DOB.
Danger Mouse has been busy. He’s produced a ton of great stuff this year. Attack and Release was excellent so I’d imagine the new Beck is as well.
I’m also enjoying My Morning Jacket’s Evil Urges, thanks for inspiring me to buy it. If you haven’t seen their version of the Who’s “A Quick One while he’s away” with Eddie Vedder it’s excellent. It’s on the new Pearl Jam DVD from thier Italy tour but it’s probably on line. It’s an excellent performance though.
CHeers,
By jukeandjive
August 1, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
BREAKING NEWS
Corky Miller has been traded to the Fulton County B-League (Beer League) Softball Team. Corky thanked Bobby Cox for his opportunity, but acknowledged his looking forward to playing with the likes of John Rocker and Co. in the coming days. Stay tuned. More details ahead.
By richard simmons
August 1, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Corky is a big guy. Wade Boggs would have a hard time hitting Corky’s weight, if you catch my drift. I kinda wish Corky would hit his weight actually.
By David O'Brien
August 1, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
BA, go back and read the letter. I fixed it a few minutes after posting.
By fieldofdreams
August 1, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
You may remember a young Puerto Rican catcher named Lopez, who also hit a dinger in his MLB debut. Jung would call it a meaningful coincidence, I call it a sign. Both the ancient Celts, and NW Native American tribes, believed in the mystical quality of salmon. Although Sammons doesn’t have Javy’s power, he may bring a magic of his own to our team. PS: The best interests of Chipper, and the Braves, will be served by him moving to an AL contender, where he can solidify his HOF resume and perhaps play in October. Pictures of him grimacing in pain, and barely able to move, scream that he belongs in the AL. The Braves, on the other hand, need to move on.
By jukeandjive
August 1, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
MORE BREAKING NEWS
Regarding the Corky Miller trade to the Fulton County B-League Softball Team: The trade hinged on the amount of 12-packs it would require the Braves to cover for the Softball Team. After intense negotiations, it was decided that the Braves would indeed have to cover the costs of all 15 cases required for the remaining 15 softball games left in Fulton County’s season. Bobby said he was a little surprised by the move, but acknowledged that Corky had expressed interest in playing for only 7 innings on a once-per-week basis rather than the full nine. Greg Norton said he hopes to join Corky soon, and is also looking forward to the shortened games.
By lilman
August 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
Who are the Braves moving off the roster to bring James up?
By Random
August 1, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Joe: “Jeez, hate to say “I told you so,” about Sammons for the last 3 months, but it is so sad to think that we could have had a competent batter and fielder playing during McCann’s “off-days” rather than the scrub that is still taking space on our roster… . I think Miller’s prolonged call-up this season, more than any in-game decisions, shows that Bobby has clearly lost it.”
Per Mark Bowman (I think — I can no longer find the article), the Braves wanted Sammons to have a full season at AAA to learn how to handle the pitchers.
*Chad *: “Any possibility that the Braves would take Andruw back in a Mike Hampton type trade. Where most of the salary is absorbed by the Dodgers and/or another team?”
Why in the world would the Braves want Andruw back, even were HE to pay THEM $15 million a year?
Sheesh!!!
By prattvillenolzfan
August 1, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Warren S.
First of all, I’ve been called an A55hole plenty of times before, but never a jerk…I guess there’s a first time for everything….
Second, are you saying that everyone who is smart should be a major league manager…(I know, juvenile response, but it sounds like that’s who I’m responding to…)
Third, yes our opening day pitching staff was considered Old but it’s not now….
Fourth I’ve personally never been to “New Yawk” or “Philthydelphia” nor do I have any desire to go there (although my daughter did go up there with her high-school band last Thanksgiving for the Macy’s parade…and I am going to Cincy in August to chaperone their trip/game) Does that count!!!!!!
Fifth EVERYONE is asked to come on here and “spout off our crap”…Even you Warren…That’s why it’s called a blog
So, who put you in charge to filter the content of the Blog….. Just because some of us thinks it’s time for a change, we can’t post, because you might get your feelings hurt because you disagree…GET OVER IT….
Personally, I was a Cox supporter until about a month ago, yes injuries has taken it’s toll, but there have been MANY moves made by Cox that as a major league manager, he had no business making…..(God…I’m starting to sound like Coach…heaven help me….)
Any way I agree that if it weren’t for Cox, we would not have experienced the success we had for 14 consecutive years.
However, all things must end, and I would like to see Cox bow out gracefully, with dignity, class and respect…He simply deserves that. But if he continues to stay on, his reputation will become tainted, he will start to lose respect, and he simply does not deserve that…
Bashing Cox does not mean we are against the Braves (nor Cox personally), it means that we want to see the Braves, re-attain the stature/status we once had….
Kind of like a certain football coach I know
By Milton Jeff
August 1, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Manny belongs in LA with all the other drama queens. What a disgrace to the game. I find myself wondering now if we had Clint in those clutch situations where Corky was batting..where would the Braves stand now? I know its only one game but what an impression. Kudos to the local kid. Since we all can agree the Braves are out of it…what team is everyone on this blog pulling for? I’d have to go the Tigers or BoSox.
By Ed Glennon
August 1, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
I think people underestimate the trade value of Corky. The Giants might want him to sit on stat sheets when the wind blows hard. The Dodgers would trade Andruw for him. The Nationals have offered Pete Orr and cash. And what about deal for Chris Woodward?
By Tomahawk Matt
August 1, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
DOB King of Blog and Radio Guests- Thanks for Mr. Myler’s letter. This may take more than 20 words unfortunately. Myler is right on the money. There’s 1000 more like Mr. Myler for every one of these fools who think it’s Bobby’s fault for the unfortunate happenings of the 2008 season.
If someone doesn’t understand why Bobby Cox is still the manager of the ATL Braves then that person clearly knows nothing about baseball.
BOBBY COX HATERS ARE IGNORANT FOOLS! YES PLEASE READ IT TWICE IF YOU NEED TO!
GO BRAVES 2009!!!
By Sammon of Knowledge
August 1, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Once upon a time, an ordinary sammon ate the nine hazel nuts that fell into the Well of Wisdom from nine hazel trees that surrounded the fountain. In doing so, the sammon gained all the knowledge in the world. Moreover, the first person to eat of its flesh would, in turn, gain this knowledge.
The poet Finegas Eces spent seven years fishing for the sammon. When he finally caught it, he instructed his apprentice, Fionn mac Cumhaill, to prepare it for him. Fionn burned his thumb when spattered with some of the hot fat from the cooking sammon and immediately sucked on it to ease the pain.
When he brought the cooked meal to Finegas, his master saw a fire in the boy’s eyes that had not been there before. When asked by Finegas, Fionn denied that he had eaten of the fish. When pressed, he admitted his accidental taste.
It was this incredible knowledge and wisdom gained from the Sammon of Knowledge that allowed Fionn to become the leader of the Fianna, the famed heroes of Irish myth.
Clearly, the Braves should replace the cow with a Sammon
By Joe
August 1, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
Joe While I can agree Sammons is an upgrade over Corky Miller, you seem unable to grasp the concept of allowing a player to develop. Being sent to Richmond to accrue at-bats and hone his skills as a signal caller will be beneficial to both Sammons and the Braves in the long run. Call it an apprenticeship if you like but Sammons would not get an opportunity to become more skilled playing only one day a week
The fact is, Sammons is never going to be anything more than a backup Major League catcher. He is already 25-26, and he will remain cheap. He has reached his ceiling, so go ahead and bring him up and let him be a serviceable backup.
It’s a no-brainer.
He won’t ever hit over .250, but he also won’t embarrass himself the way Miller does every time he plays.
By Bobby...No!
August 1, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
What in the name of Brad Clontz is Bobby doing. Did anyone pickup on the fact that Corky Miller was are starting catcher the and that Greg “the killer” Norton was playing in left field and BATTING CLEANUP!!! I believe it was the woeful Seattle Mariners that Norton was cut from earlier in the season. How in the world do you go from being cut by the worst team in baseball, to not only starting, but batting cleanup? I beg you Bobby please retire so I can stop having nightmares or Jim Clancy and Doug Sisk.
By etownbrave
August 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
McFann Just curious. Being a home-schooled student, when does your new school year begin? Close to public school schedules? My son starts 8th grade next Friday, 8/08. And of course, late games from the left coast next week! :{
By GeorgetownKid
August 1, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Well said Mr. Myler.
By Hoosier Aaron
August 1, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
As “Joe” stated in the second post on this blog “I hate to say I told you so”..can I do the same?
I commented a couple weeks ago that I thought a great trade for Tex would be Casey Kotchman and Reggie Willits.
A few minutes later someone asked - “Is that all you’d get for Tex?”
Okay - I missed it. Casey and a minor league pitcher.
Call it what you want - I love Kotchman at first. I think he is a gold-glove type firstbaseman and someone who puts the ball in play. He reminds me a lot of Bream…a high character guy who can play…I’ll take them any day of the week.
By DAP
August 1, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
fieldofdreams your post is eroneous. last night wasnt sammons’ mlb debut, and chipper got hurt running to first, and when he has been hurt, its often caused by something to do with the offensive side of baseball. so how is moving to the AL gonna help chipper?
By Renegator
August 1, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
prattvillenolzfan
I have to assume the football coach that you are referring to is Bobby Bowden. As a Gator fan - I have to admit that I love it that Bobby Bowden is staying on and running that program into the ground. I’m sure the Phillies and Marlins and Mets feel the same way about Bobby Cox.
I believe that Bobby Cox, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno have got to come to grips with the fact that the glory days are no more. They are actually becoming a detriment to their teams. Since they have done so much for their respective programs - they will never be fired - nor should they be.
But at some point you expect them to look in the mirror and realize that they ain’t got it anymore and they need to do the right thing and step down before they taint their legacy too much.
By David Myler Is An Idiot!
August 1, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Since David Myler doesn’t read blogs, this screen name shouldn’t offend him.
Thank God David Myler doesn’t own the Braves! (Although his philosophy sounds like Braves management) Praise Bobby. Slam Bobby. I don’t really care which. It’s Myler’s assumption that Bobby should be allowed to manage until he dies if he wants that bothers me. What? did suddenly Bobby become a supreme court judge? Bobby can turn into a total screw up and his Braves pedigree buys him a lifetime pass? I make fun of Joe Paterno at Penn State because he has turned into an elderly, clueless man who has traffic accidents and threatens the lady involved with his power and stature at Penn State! He’s past relevent. He has no idea what his players are doing. He claims to have a grip on the program yet his players are going to jail and he doesn’t even know about it! His assistants are running the show.
Dumb David! Joe Pa is what you end up with when you give someone a lifetime job based on past performance.
By TNJeff
August 1, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Curious as to what David Myler wrote in his email but didn’t read beyond the first sentence - too wordy. (19)
By Carolina Matt
August 1, 2008 4:39 PM |