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DEL.ICIO.USBraves travel to-do list: Score a run, then perhaps win
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Los Angeles — Well, that Monday night shutout wasn’t quite what the Braves had in mind to start this crucial six-game trip, now was it?
At least it was quick and relatively painless for Braves hitters, Hiroki Kuroda carving them up with a surgeon’s precision.
For those counting at home, that’s two road games in a row with zero runs for Los Bravos. Eighteen innings, six hits, no runs at Toronto and at Dodger Stadium. Ouch. Yikes.
With six outs to go in last night’s 3-0 Dodgers win against the skidding Bravos, I was scrambling to gather information about no-hitters — how many the Dodgers had thrown over the years, how many had been thrown against the Braves, etc.
I covered Randy Johnson’s perfect game in Atlanta in 2004, and with six outs to go last night I really was starting to think I was going to see Kuroda throw one, too. If he had, he’d have joined the immortal Sandy Koufax as the only pitchers in Dodgers franchise history to toss one (a perfect game, not just a no-hitter).
It’s four no-hitters I’ve covered as a beat man, including two on the West Coast by Marlins pitchers A.J. Burnett (at San Diego’s former Jack Murphy Stadium, A.J. threw a nine-walk, one-hit-batsman beautiful mess) and Kevin Brown (at San Francisco’s Candlestick Park, the surling Georgia boy completely dominated one afternoon).
Alas, Mark Teixeira lightened our late-night workload Monday with his clean double leading off the eighth inning.
But it didn’t make Kuroda’s performance any less impressive, really. He needed only 91 pitches (61 strikes) to record 27 outs, with no walks and six strikeouts.
Braves hitters and Bobby Cox called it as good or better than any performance they’ve seen all season, and Brian McCann said the Braves, who didn’t get to their L.A. hotel until nearly 3 a.m. Monday after their marathon 17-inning game Sunday in Atlanta, couldn’t have hit Kuroda Monday even if fully rested.
He was that good. Everything down in the strike zone. Sinkers at over 90 mph. Ninth-inning fastballs at 93-94 mph, harder than he’d thrown for most of the night. Dodgers manager Joe Torre said he’d never seen a pitcher so “robotically” pump strike after strike against hitters.
And these were well-located strikes, not ones left over the middle of the plate.
Kelly Johnson marveled at how much better Kuroda - he’s only got a 5-6 record, folks — pitched last night than when the Braves faced him in spring training or when they got seven hits and two runs in six innings against him to beat the 33-year-old rookie in Atlanta on April 20.
“It was his night,” K.J. said of the performance Monday. “We saw him in the spring and early this year, and he wasn’t even close to that same pitcher. I don’t know where he was hiding that stuff.”
OK, but enough about Kuroda. What in the name of Otis Nixon is wrong with the Braves?
Ahh, if only there were an easy, pat answer, something the Braves and GM Frank Wren could fix with one move, or a couple of trades before the deadline.
A move to get a bat, preferably a right-handed bat, would certainly help the cause, because this Braves team has been shut out eight times and has a 1-25 record in games in which it’s scored two runs or fewer.
That’s 26 times in 90 games that Atlanta has scored fewer than three runs in a game. And on the road … oh, it’s much uglier.
Ninety games in, the home-road dichotomy isn’t as severe as it was earlier, but that’s only because the Braves have stopped winning so much at home. In other words, they’re not as good at home; they’re still about as bad as ever on the road, and much of that is the strange inability to hit on the road.
This is a team that plays its home games in a park that’s more pitcher-friendly than hitter-friendly, for sure. Those vast power alleys at Turner Field, especially in right-center, have frustrated a lot of hitters over the years.
Yet this Braves team hits better at home. Far, far better.
Among NL teams in home-game offensive statistics, the Braves rank second in average (.283) and on-base percentage (.360), sixth in slugging percentage (.432), and eighth in homers (46).
But in road games, the Braves are awful offensively (or awfully offensive) — 14th in average (.243), 11th in OBP (.318), 10th in slugging (.387), and tied for 11th in homers (39).
And here’s the big one: At home they are third in runs scored (237), while on the road the Braves are dead last with 157 runs.
Now, unless they can trade for the best road-hitting run-producer in the NL, the Braves are probably going to have to look in the mirror and get things figured out amongst themselves if they hope to get this road thing turned around before it’s too late (if it’s not already, as many here in Braves/MIB land believe it is).
No one has felt the sting of the Braves’ road futility more than Jorge Campillo, who pitched another good game last night — seven innings, five hits three runs — and came away with another loss.
He’s 1-4 with a 4.32 ERA in his past five starts, and the Braves have scored one or no runs while he’s been in four of those games.
He has three quality starts in that span, games in which he pitched seven or eight innings and gave up two or three runs, and Campillo has only a 1-2 record in those three games.
Both losses in that stretch came in Los Angeles, against the Angels and Dodgers, when he gave up a total of 12 hits and five runs in 15 innings, and got exactly zero support runs. In both games, the Tijuana native pitched with plenty of family members and friends in attendance.
They might be wondering if the Braves have something against their guy. No, friends and family members, they don’t. The Braves don’t score much for several pitchers, particularly on the road. It’s nothing personal.
At Turner Field, five Braves regulars (20 or more games) have hit .300 or higher, including Chipper Jones (.437), Brian McCann (.323), Matt Diaz (.319), Yunel Escobar (.316), and Kelly Johnson (.300).
On the road, Chipper Jones (.323) is the only Braves regular hitting above .287, and six are hitting .250 or below.
At home, eight Braves regulars have slugged over .400. On the four, it’s four.
Not too surprising, then, that the Braves have lost 23 of their past 31 road games, despite a respectable 3.92 ERA in that span. They hit just .236 in those 31 games, and averaged 3-1/2 runs.
And in their past seven road games, the Braves are 2-5 with a ghastly .200 batting average and only 23 runs. They’ve been shut out in consecutive road games, by A.J. Burnett and two Toronto relievers to end the last trip and by Kuroda to start this one.
Gotta love Carlyle: Buddy Carlyle’s opponents’ batting average has improved each month, from .292 in April to .167 in May, .152 in June, and .111 so far in three July appearances.
Since April 23, the journeyman right-hander has posted a 0.78 ERA and .165 opponents’ average in 14 games, allowing 13 hits and two runs in 23 innings, with 10 walks and 25 strikeouts.
He has a 1.38 ERA in 26 innings this season, a .178 opponents’ average that includes .153 by righty hitters, and he’s allowed just a .171 average with runners on and .152 (5-for-33) with runners in scoring position.
“Damn, we’re going to have to move him up [in the bullpen],” Bobby Cox said yesterday, when I asked about Carlyle’s recent work. “He’s going right after [hitters]. He puts the ball right where he wants it. I preach that all the time, but some people don’t get it. You’ve gotta locate.”
Carlyle told me yesterday that he likes his role, feels comfortable there, and hopes the starters begin going deeper into games again so he doesn’t have to pitch much, because then he knows the staff’s performing well. You know, when he doesn’t have to enter many games in the middle innings.
“I’m trying to make pitches where I’m putting everything into that particular pitch. Like [Sunday vs. Houston] when I was pitching, if I was going to give up a hit in a certain situation, I was going to put everything into the pitch,” he said.
“And if I gave up the hit or the run, I could go home and feel like, ‘OK, alright, I gave up the run there, but I gave it everything I had on that particular pitch.’ And it’s a lot easier to do that out of the bullpen than as a starter, because as a starter you’re looking at, you’ve got to throw 100 pitches, and sometimes you’ve got to conserve a little bit too much.
“I’m just trying to make sure I put everything into it, and if something bad happens I can live with it.”
More on his role and whether he would like to start again: “I feel comfortable where I am right now. The starters have been doing such a good job and they’ve been getting deep into games. That’s why for three weeks before last weekend I didn’t pitch at all, because guys have been doing such a good job.
“Hopefully they’ll continue pitching the way they are and that decision won’t even have to be made and it’ll be completely irrelevant. I feel comfortable with where I’m at and just glad that I have an opportunity to be here playing, and hopefully we can start winning.”
A man who knows his role. Appreciates it, relishes it. Good stuff.
OK, time for lunch. But first …. Those of you who, for some unknown reason, feel compelled to remind us that college football season is just around the corner: We get it. Hey, most of us love college football. I know I do.
But let me know when musicians as cool as these sing an ode to that sport, much less name a group for it and put out a CD full of songs about it.
It’s The Baseball Project, Peter Buck and Steve Wynn are in it, and their first album’s in stores today. Here’s a link to their appearance on Letterman: http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2RNfhhlY-Y
I can’t help but think that if Warren Zevon were still with us, he might want to be part of that project. (By the way, I think our AJC.com entertainment section is posting a bunch of other info and links to the band today.)
”DESPERADOS UNDER THE EAVES” by Warren Zevon
I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was staring in my empty coffee cup
I was thinking that the gypsy wasn’t lyin’
All the salty margaritas in Los Angeles
I’m gonna drink ‘em up
And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this motel will be standing until I pay my bill
Don’t the sun look angry through the trees
Don’t the trees look like crucified thieves
Don’t you feel like Desperados under the eaves
Heaven help the one who leaves
Still waking up in the mornings with shaking hands
And I’m trying to find a girl who understands me
But except in dreams you’re never really free
Don’t the sun look angry at me
I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was listening to the air conditioner hum
It went mmmmmm….
Look away…
Look away down Gower Avenue, look away….
Comments
By Blue Magic
July 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
uno?
By Joseph
July 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
First :)
By Ron H
July 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
First? Frenchy, your time has come…turn it around.
By Murphy
July 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
DOB, They said last night that Nomo had pitched a no hitter??
By Shaun
July 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
THB, regarding your post on the last blog…
However, you talk about Salty and Andrus not having a spot on the team and saying that it would be okay to just throw a prospect away because they’re blocked
I never said it was okay to “throw a prospect away.” Salty and Andrus were traded for a year and two months of the best player available at the time to a team only 3.5 games out. And they’ll get, what, a draft pick as well.
But where would we be if we held onto our prospects and traded for Dan Haren?
Well, pitching hasn’t really been that much of a problem even without Smoltz and Glavine. And Haren’s contract is very expensive. And there is no way the Braves should have considered signing Hunter or Rowand for anywhere near the contracts they received.
Also, Haren wasn’t traded until the off-season. The Braves got Teixeira when they were 3.5 out last year.
By doug
July 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
by: Mark Bowman in an article about the Braves worn out bullpen.
Another newcomer to the Braves bullpen Tuesday could be Julian Tavarez, who has been released by both the Red Sox and Brewers this season. The 35-year-old veteran posted a 7.20 ERA and saw opponents hit .356 against him in 16 combined appearances with those two teams this season.
What gives here? DOB mentioned yesterday help was on the way internally or externally, but you have to be kidding me? He ain’t takin’ time from Buddy now is he?
By Ron H
July 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Let me add to that last post… …or else
who are we kidding? the braves are going to give frenchy a big contract (maybe somewhat reduced b/c of recent struggles), but still prob big enough to put him in top 5 company for 3rd or 4th year players…
gooo braves!
By BamaBravesFan
July 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
1st?
By Josh
July 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
the title of this blog made me laugh out loud
By Shaun
July 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Also, THB, the Braves could get a lot if they decide to trade Teixeira at or around the deadline; maybe even players as talented as Salty, Andrus and Harrison.
By BA
July 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Carlyle is the man.
By David O'Brien
July 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Yes, could be Julian Tavarez. It’s gonna be someone, probably announced soon as we get to the park in 2-3 hours…
Murphy, Nomo threw a no-hitter; 10 of those for L.A. Dodgers. But only Koufax threw a perfect game for them.
By Jamie
July 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
OK I don’t know if this has been breached yet or not! But is anybody else thinking we may need a new hitting coach? It sure looks to me like the last three years except for Chipper, averages are going down. And he only listen to his Daddy. Whick is proability a good ideal for all of us.
By Shaun
July 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Murphy, Nomo threw a no-hitter in Coors Field, pre-humidor. And he threw one for the Red Sox in 2001 in his first start with the Sox at Camden Yards.
By Bobby's Cox
July 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Braves To-Do List:
Learn a system.
Here in LA, they’re talking the young dodgers are finally learning Torre’s system:
Paying attention is what Torre has stressed to his players. He’s told them to pay attention to what’s happening in the game regardless of whether they’re playing. He’s told them to pay attention to the situation when they go up to hit.
It’s fun when you stay involved and it breeds success like it’s doing right now,” Ethier said.
“Fun” described the atmosphere in the clubhouse Sunday*
I guess it all comes down to situational hitting, in the long run, kind of like KJ’s pop up with Tex on 3rd, 1 out yesterday with the infield playing back. At least KJ showed some frustration.
And yesterday on the way to the ballpark, the great Vin Scully had to remind me of the braves poor road record and that 18 of their next 21 games are on the road.
He also mentioned the braves game yesterday & the delayed flight after. Said that every team goes through it once or twice a year & the braves would have to fight through it. Boy didn’t they.
By ernesto
July 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Great song.
The telling part of the Braves of the last couple of years is their almost perfect consistency when it comes to not coming up big when they need to.
Of course anyone can face a pitcher when he’s on and get smoked, but how many times over the past 2 years has this team “needed” a win or “had to have” a series and went the opposite way.
They needed a strong finish going into the break, they GOT 1 hit by a 4-6 pitcher.
Not saying they won’t turn it around, and I remain cautiously optimistic, but it would be out of character for this team to rise to the occasion.
Still they could. And if they don’t? Well, life goes on and it’s like Zevon said in his last Letterman interview “enjoy every sandwich.”
Warren Zevon, the only man I know to ever work the word Bruscelosis into a rock song.
By pfunkatl2
July 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Now is the time boys…step up or throw in the towel. Look for Tex to move, and SOON, if we don’t come out with a winning road trip. Wouldn’t be a BIT surprised to see some more changes as well.
By BravesFanInRockies
July 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Shaun,
I was about to make a similar response to THB. You beat me to it!
In addition, the Braves need production from the OF more than another SS (Andrus) or C (Salty). Keeping them would not have solved this team’s problems.
I do agree with THB that the Braves might be wise to avoid future trades involving Boras clients who are likely to score big on the FA market. This would rule out Matt Holliday, BTW, who will be looking for a Tex-like contract at the end of 2009.
By Coach Smith
July 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
For all of you DYING TO TRADE TEX “to get younger” or “fill holes” or “rebuild” PLEASE READ THIS
Which “holes” should the Braves fill?
THEY ARE TOOOOO YOUNG ALREADY
Who, or what are you trading him for?
RF- Frenchy is 24 and cheap for 3 years
CF- Blanco 24, Kotsay here now, and Schaefer next year
SS- Escobar 25 and cheap
2ndBase- KJ is 26, Prado is 25 both cheap
C- McCann 24 all-star
3b- Chipper for as long as he wants
SP- Jair Jurgens 22, Campillio 29, JOJO 25, Huddy 31, then Morton
RP- Soriano 27, Gonzo 30, Boyer 27, Acoasta 27, Bennett 27, Moylan 29
So why should they tear down? Who should be replaced? How can they possibly get much younger?
Really and LOGICALLY the Braves’ biggest need is a LEGITIMATE Left Fielder……
…and maybe One more STARTER who can be here for a while (2 starters if Smoltz doesn’t come back or you move Campillio to the pen)
there are also alot of prospects at those positions in our minor leagues so I would argue that the Braves need to keep what the they have and add a couple of ML proven pieces
Comments?
By Braveheart
July 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Some on sports radio here in Atlanta are speculating that Cox was the one who bullied Wren into recalling Francoeur. But I dunno. On first listen, Wren didn’t really sound like he was thinking about recalling Frenchy yesterday morning on the radio interviews he did. But then all of a sudden, Frenchy was recalled just a few hours later. Kinda fishy.
But in thinking about the interviews he did in hindsight, you can believe that Wren was thinking hard about a possible recall in the morning and was just waiting for all of the reports to come in from Mississippi as to Francoeur’s status outside of the results. Wren did say in the morning interviews that his people were scrambling around that morning trying to find bodies to get to L.A. and Wren did keep talking in the morning about how Francoeur went 4 for 5 with opposite field hits.
In hindsight, although he didn’t come out and say it, it sounded in the morning like Wren was dealing with an emergency due to the injuries and was trying to convince himself to justify the recall of Francoeur.
He may have not been entirely ready to say he was recalling Francoeur because the reports from Mississippi weren’t in yet. Wren did make a point of saying in the morning that he receives daily updates on all of the minor leaguers.
He probably did not come right out in the morning and say he was considering a quick recall of Francoeur because he didn’t want to cause further damage in his relationship with the kid if he decided not to recall him. And he probably didn’t say in the afternoon interviews that he would rather have Francoeur in the minors for another 10 days and that injuries had forced his hand in the recall because that would also further damage his relationship with Francoeur. Francoeur might want to consider that the next time he goes popping off at the mouth - Wren put his neck and reputation on the line for Francoeur.
Although I don’t agree with Wren’s hasty decision to recall Francoeur, I did admire the way that Wren was willing to throw himself to the wolves by agreeing to sports radio interviews on both sports radio stations in the morning AND in the afternoon. Unless he was about to have his arse royally kissed, His Highness Schuerholz rarely lowered himself to justifying his moves to the little people.
Wren easily could have justified his puzzling Francoeur moves by belittling Francoeur in the afternoon by saying the kid ain’t really ready for the recall, he belongs in the minors but we simply don’t have the necessary bodies at the major league level right now. He didn’t do that when he easily could have done so for the sake of protecfting his own name and reputation. I don’t have much of a problem with what Francoeur said but I do think Francoeur really had better think long and hard about how much others in the organization go out of their way to protect Francoeur. People are protecting Francoeur to their own detriment. If this move backfires, Francoeur can always find another team to play for - Wren may never find another team to general manage if this opportunity doesn’t work for him.
Hopefully, Francoeur can turn it around. Leo Mazzone made some good points on 680 this morning about things he did with Leibrandt, Smoltz, and Avery during emotionally fragile moments to get them turned around quickly.
By BravesFan79
July 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
“The starters have been doing such a good job and they’ve been getting deep into games. That’s why for three weeks before last weekend I didn’t pitch at all, because guys have been doing such a good job.”
Yea GREAT Job by Cox to keep using a slumping Acosta and Boyer instead of changing it up weeks ago.
Ive always liked Buddy C as a pitcher for us. Makes a great 5th starter because you know hes gonna battle!
By Braveheart
July 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
THEY ARE TOOOOO YOUNG ALREADY
Coach Smith, ‘nuff said right there. They don’t have the stomach to deal with the growing pains of 24 year olds but somehow think they are tough enough to stomach the growing pains of players younger than 24. Whatever.
By Shaun
July 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
BravesFanInRockies, but it’s not as big a deal as some are making it that the Braves are going to lose Teixeira. He impacted two seasons and, again, they traded for him when they were 3.5 games out. At the very least they get a draft pick plus the best player they could have received for a year and two months.
Yes, things seem pretty bad right now but imagine how bad they’d be if they had to play guys like Scott Thorman, Julio Franco, Matt Diaz, Craig Wilson, Chris Woodward, Norton, Prado, Infante at first base from July 31 of last year to today.
They went for the playoffs with Teixeira and it didn’t work out, and it wasn’t his fault. And to go for it, you sometimes have to make trades that give you the best chance. The Teixeira trade was the best deal they could have made to increase their chances in 2007 and 2008.
By Cecil34
July 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Sometimes a family has to unfortunately get together to decide whether to allow heroic measures or to pull the plug on a terminally ill patient; the Braves upper managment in a scant few days will have to weigh the benefits of obtaining a “bat” as DOB says, or taking a conservative route and accept their 2008 fate.
Just as there would be discussions of the “quality of life” concerning effecting heoric measures on the patient, so management must ask if the “bat” is going to be enough to put this team over the top.
Because the “bat” could be costly, and comes with no guarantees whatsoever.
In addition, there may discussions as to the fact that there could be other lingering issues besides the “bat” that would still preclude this team being competitive.
It is obvious that the division’s participants up to this point are not really taking charge of it and making this a no-brainer decision by the Braves.
And that is what keeps this cesspool of a season circling around the bowl, endlessly frustrating us and putting the final decision, whatever it is, off.
There are undoubtedly intangibles of spirit, enthusiasm, confidence and extreme motivation that permeate a winning or competitive team. We all have seen it time and time again in the sports world.
Except for a brief moment on Sunday night, there has been none of that on this team.
Can the “bat” bring it? Will it matter?
By McFann©
July 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Another good song for the Braves fro this road trip would be Hotel California:
I was thinkin’ to myself
“This could be Heaven, or this could be—”
Well, you get my point.
they GOT 1 hit by a 4-6 pitcher.
Hey, at least Kuroda’s not a lefty. Then the Braves wouldn’t have gotten anything!
By KC
July 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith: I think you make some very valid points.
Here’s my vote (as though I get one):
Take a look at where the Braves are 2-3 weeks from now, and if we’re 4 or 5 games out at the trade deadline approaches… then plug the holes in the roster and give it your best shot.
There’s really only one gaping hole on this team, and we all know what it is… the need for a big right-handed bat.
I think we should look to add a couple smaller pieces beyond that. Maybe another proven middle-reliever that can be trusted in the latter innings, and maybe one more hitter who can help us against lefties. At the risk of causing a few eyes to roll… I still think Freel would be a great platoon mate for Blanco in the leadoff spot.
However, if we lose ground, and find ourselves 7 or 8 games out at the end of the month… I would certainly entertain any worthwhile offers for Tex.
By Shaun
July 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith, they youngest player you listed is 22 and a lot of them are 24. If they are going to trade Teixeira, why not try to get a quality leftfielder and/or a pitcher around 24 so that the Braves are loaded in two years with players in what should be their primes?
I don’t think that would be to re-build or to get younger, per se. It would just increase the Braves opportunity to win their next best chance they get.
By Gene
July 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
I like the maxim, hit the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball. I guess we should add “run” to that list.
By Coach Smith
July 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
I am listening to 680 the Fan, and as much as I love Buck and Kincade….
KINCADE is talking out of his @ZZ about the Braves needing to trade TEX and “rebuild”
Again, read my previous post, THE BRAVES HAVE BEEN REBUILDING ON THE FLY FOR 2 1/2 YEARS….
They are already young
Why, when you have a cornerstone young piece like TEX, would you trade him and create EVEN MORE HOLES FOR YOURSELF?
DOB you talk to these guys… it is easy to tell that KINCAID is just loving the Braves’ stuggles as he is a Phillies fan….He is on the radio telling the Braves fans that it “is over” “sell, sell, sell” “rebuild for the next 2-3 years”
Well I guess he would just love that as a Phillies fan!
As irritated as the Braves make me, i can’t see giving up when you are 6 games out with 73 to play
By HighCheese
July 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Please…no…Julian…Tavarez…
By John
July 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
The young outfielders can’t develop and get to Atlanta quick enough.
This lineup is the worst I’ve ever seen.
By BravesFanInRockies
July 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
A lot of discussion about the Braves going after Nady and/or Bay.
Here’s a player I’ve grown to like: Ryan Spilborghs. He’s really a corner OF forced to play CF because Willy Taveras stinks. His OPS this year is .914 (and a solid .829 away from Coors). He’s stolen 7 in 9 attempts playing roughly half-time.
And he can flat mash the ball.
The Rox will probably be sellers pretty soon. I’d like to see him in a Braves uni.
By Jim
July 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Relax guys. just enjoy the game afterall it is just a game. I enjoyed it just as much in the 70’s as I do today
By 22oz
July 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Julian Tavarez just doesn’t makes sense. A guy who keeps getting booted off teams for his attitude isn’t somebody the Braves pick up. But i guess if Cox can control Sheffield he can control Tavarez.
By GotCurry
July 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
What this team needs is offense. Our pitching has been great despite all the injuries. Teixeira is starting to heat up, everyone can see that. Why would you want to trade him now? Blanco has proven that he can hit lead-off and play outfield. Kotsay is decent. When Diaz gets back, I think he and Kotsay could platoon in the outfield, since Blanco can play left or center. I hate to pick on Francoeur, but he is the only weak link in the outfield. Who knows, he might get hot after the allstar break. If he doesn’t, put Blanco out in right with Diaz in left and Kotsay in center. I don’t see how trading away our biggest run-producer is going to help this struggling offense.
By THB
July 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Shaun-My point wasn’t about getting Haren at the deadline. It was that I think we could have gotten more for our prospects. We could have gotten an ace who is not a Boras client and possibly signed him longterm. Even if we hadn’t signed him longterm, we would have him for at least 2 full seasons (Both Haren and Bedard are signed past this year). Then all we had to do this offseason is find a 1B and CF.
I just think we’d have been better off had we not rushed into Tex and worked a deal in the offseason for Haren. Of course we could have never known that, but it looks like Tex has just been a disappointment, overall. I agree it’s not the worst situation in the world and not a bust by any means. But the Braves haven’t won with him and there’s a good chance we let him walk.
By pfunkatl2
July 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
NOT saying here that I think the Bravos SHOULD dump Tex, just pretty sure that they WILL if they can’t keep above water on this trip. I hear the Bosox are trying to get him ALREADY and there will surely be other interest.
By Bobby's Cox
July 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
A move to get a bat, preferably a right-handed bat, would certainly help the cause, because this Braves team has been shut out eight times and has a 1-25 record in games in which it’s scored two runs or fewer
Good reporting DOB. But beware, I mentioned the same thing last week and the bloggers had it out for me. Although I was suggesting the braves would learn some situational hitting and push across 1-2 more runs per game while they didn’t have an extra power bat.
When I watch this team, I still see every hitter trying to do too much. Even with the acquistion of Tex last year, the braves in the last 2 months of 2007 (like i said last week) were like 4-24 when scoring 3 runs or less, and 24-5 when scoring 5 runs or more (i forgot the original numbers I posted), good for a record 1 game over .500. But in any event, the team relys too much on power, and should be doing little things to increase run production during games.
If i remember correctly, the braves won 13 of 18 in late April/early May. During that time, we saw a lot of bunting, hitting & running, & some sac flys to score runs. Later in games the braves would hit a HR to put the game away. I don’t remember any big HR’s lately from the braves in close games except, Francoeur’s game winner, and maybe KJ’s grand slam which again, had put a team away for good.
If the braves get a right handed power bat this year, they’ll be in the same situation next year as they’re in right now when they lose Tex.
It’s time for the Braves hitters to learn how to push runners across, learn situational hitting, try to hit singles & gappers instead of taking big hacks. That’s on TP, and Bobby Cox.
The young Dodgers are learning a system in LA
By Matt the Brave
July 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Just a quick question…what’s up with Bennett’s shoulder? Just overworked? Also, what’s the status on some of the other injured players for the Braves and how soon might they be back? Thanks!
By JB
July 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
John.
Do you really think this is the worst line up you’ve ever seen? Have you not watched the games against the Nationals? I’d say their line up in far worse. Along with the Padres, Dodgers, Indians, Mariners, and Royals…just to name a few.
By Run Heap Run!
July 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Don’t go there, McFann!
Maybe Frenchy in the lineup tonight (he will be, won’t he?) will give the team a spark? I know, I know, I gotta be careful going out on those limbs but hey, it’s something.
By Jeff R
July 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Shaun, Super Tex wasn’t what the Braves needed last season. They needed a quality starting pitcher. None were available. Instead, fans got a lot of hype about Super Tex (remember, with him the Braves were a cinch to make the post season?). Didn’t happen. As you said, not his fault, because - to repeat - hitting wasn’t what the team needed most last season.
Wren would be smart to entertain offers for Super Tex. A draft choice next year is poor compensation for the five prospects the team surrendered to the Rangers. A solid pitching prospect and near-major league ready third base prospect would be attractive, if a deal like that could be had.
By Braveheart
July 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
DOB you talk to these guys… it is easy to tell that KINCAID is just loving the Braves’ stuggles as he is a Phillies fan….He is on the radio telling the Braves fans that it “is over” “sell, sell, sell” “rebuild for the next 2-3 years”
Coach Smith I don’t think Kinkade cares how well the Braves do other than how it affects ratings. The best way to get ratings now is to jump all over the Francoeur issue and to say give up and dump Tex. He just wants to tick people off so that people listen more, call in more, his show gets more ratings and advertisers and he makes more money.
If anything, the Braves doing well means good things for him. The Braves going deep into October will help him get better ratings in September and October when the radio ratings books really matter big time to the stations and their advertisers. But for now, in June, July, August, the story that will sell by ticking you off is to say that the Braves stink and they need to sell. Hence, why he is saying so.
Ticked off listeners supposedly tend to listen more than listeners who agree with the host. Ever see that scene from Private Parts where they discuss that people who hate Howard Stern listen longer to Howard Stern than people who love Howard Stern.
By Supes
July 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
TEX should be traded only if the Braves are out of it (which is 99% sure they will be), and if they get a good deal. Not just for the sake of “well, we’re out of it, we don’t want to compete for his services at above 20 mil per season, and we need to trade”.
If they can get a top tier OF prospect with POWER, like the Indians did with Matt LaPorta, plus a top tier pitching prospect, swing the deal.
Braves 2 biggest needs are a power outfield prospect and flame throwing pitcher.
We don’t have a power arm in the starting rotation, and yes that is a need. Can’t count on Smoltz returning sometime next year.
Huddy isn’t a power pitcher, neither is JJJ, Jo-Jo, or Morton.
We need that guy who throws 95-98 consistantly with an off-speed out pitch.
Not sure about Yankees, Red Sox prospects in the minors, if anyone fits the bill…but those two positions…a power outfielder and a power starting pitcher would be worth trading TEX by July 31st if the Braves are out of it.
I think B. Heyword could always move to 1B if it came down to it and learn the position. He would then become our future prospect at 1B.
By RC
July 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Anyone saying “This is the worst lineup they’ve ever seen” must have not been watching the Braves for more than a couple of years.
Lineup from August 5th, 2001:
2b Marcus Giles LF BJ Surhoff 3b Chipper Jones RF Dennis Martinez CF Andruw Jones C Javy Lopez SS Rey Sanchez 1b Wes Helms P Kevin Millwood
We had freakin’ Dennis Martinez at cleanup! And were playing REY SANCHEZ! Btw, that was Martinez’s last year in the majors…here was the YEAR line for the guy we had hitting cleanup for a portion of the year:
120 games 33 runs 11 doubles 3 triples 2 HR 20 RBI .287 avg
20 RBI from the cleanup spot….I rest my case.
By Capt Caveman (the original Dawg)
July 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
YO DOB
I got a good laugh when I read your thoughts on ever-changing prospect ratings on the last blog.
Only b/c in my first week of Gulf Coast League play I was playing the most awesome ball of my life, just being pumped up about being there and all can make you play like a man possessed. I got a few of those back-pats and you-could-be-the-next-so and so comments and those words put me on cloud 9. Then I came back to reality and had a few regular weeks and then a 5 game slump and I was the next nobody. ALL in a MONTH. LOL
Yeah , fickle ain’t the word but it works. But you can’t explain it to people who only want to see the world their own way. I’ve still got the game ball I hit outta the park for my first game-winning homerun. I also have the coach’s nameplate off of his desk from my last day in the minors. Had to take something to remember it all by. LOL
By KC
July 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Hamels on the mound tonight against a schmo… gotta get a win tonight - in all likelihood - to avoid losing a game to Phili.
By Run Heap Run!
July 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
I really hope Tavarez isn’t coming. Yuck.
By Braves Lover
July 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
No, I’m not impressed that JF hit over .500 at AA level. No, he hasn’t been there long enough to make a difference in his swing. No, in the long run his attitude wont’ change although it will be better for a couple of weeks. Yes, JF is a high maintance player who much be babied and told how wonderful he is so that he doesn’t pout. Yes, the marketing department is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken poop with JF. Yes, I hope Mr. Wren’s neck is safe ater sticking it out so far for someone who doesn’t care for anyone but himself. No, I wouldn’t have done it.
By McFann©
July 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Run Heap Run!—
You mean the song? Yeah, sorry about that…
Yes, please be careful out there on that limb! (Hope it’s not maple!)
By StingerSplash
July 8, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Kevin Brown - surling, or surly? Last night’s game was over so quick I had time to kill before “Hogan’s Heroes” came on TVLand.
By ATLiens
July 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Julian Tavarez……… the same man that cried buckets after the braves beat his indians in the ‘95 WS
By Supes
July 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
*Hamels on the mound tonight against a schmo… gotta get a win tonight - in all likelihood - to avoid losing a game to Phili. *
Well, with the Braves pitching matchup against Billingsly (the way he’s been on a roll) the prospects of a win are looking mighty grim. Lineup got manahandled last night, will tonight be any different?
About Kincade…I’ve been listening to 680 now for a long time, and I don’t think he is enjoying the Braves losing. He’s admitted (take it for what it is) that after the Phillies, he cheers for the Braves, which b/c both teams are in the same division, always competing against each other is kind of a catch 22.
When he give you the numbers about the Braves chances to win the NL East…they are about zero right now. He’s correct about that. It’s not that a team can’t come back to overtake the division leader when trailing by 6-7 games…it’s the fact that the Braves have to jump over 3 teams to do it, which has never been done. Not once.
We can forget about the NL wildcard, that’s coming out of the central.
Only hope is the NL East, and it’s looking against all odds right now.
By flange1
July 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith,
I think you are missing the point on Tex.
The real choice is not to trade Tex but whether to sign him or not.
If you decide to resign him, then prepare to spend 20-23 million a year for 6-7 years. You will have to compete with the Mets, Yankees, maybe the Sox and others and it will be a financial bloodbath.
You have to make the decision to spend whatever it is takes to get him.
OR, you make the decision NOT to sign him. If that is the case, you then have 2 choices.
Keep him and try to win and get 2 draft choices. With the Braves history they will be high school players that will not the majors for 4-5 years.
Or trade him for current players or prospects that are closer than 4-5 years away from the ML roster.
You say we have all the minor league players ready to fill in in LF and 1B and pitching, but I would like to see who you are talking about.
As I see it, the Braves will NOT get into a bidding war for TEX. I cannot think of ANY player the Braves have EVER signed as a FA that the Braves offered MORE money for than the rest of the teams.
So then you have a straight forward decision, do you want 2 prospects from high school or someone that is more advanced.
Thoughts?????
Braveheart, I know you want to sign Tex. DO you think the Braves will win a bidding war for Tex?
By Coach Smith
July 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Shaun
If the Braves do what you say and trade TEX and get a Left Feilder…
Then you will have filled a HOLE in left and CREATED a HOLE at First Base
That makes no sense
Next year 14 mil of Hampton is gone, 8 mil of Glavine is gone
Take that 22 million and give it TEX
Then the payroll is pretty much the same, then go after a Left Feilder and Pitcher either through trade or free agency or both
Yes that will RAISE the payroll BUT Liberty Media, WREN, and SCHRUHOLTZ have said that there is “no payroll limit” and that “Liberty media wants to win and will spend money to do so”
Those 3 steps will fill pretty much all Fixable holes
By Hit Heap Hit!
July 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Anyone saying “This is the worst lineup they’ve ever seen” must have not been watching the Braves for more than a couple of years.
True dat. The Braves have always had about 4.5 legitimate major leaguers and about 4.5 scrap heap/young/experimental players in the line up.
New name for inspiration. If he goes on a tear tonight I get all the credit. :)
By doug
July 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Tavarez isn’t going to start crying again, is he?
By KC
July 8, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
As for KINCADE …
I would NEVER consider listening to a LOCAL Atlanta sports-radio show that is hosted by a Phillies fan. Frankly, that sickens me. Isn’t there a rather vocal Yankees fan there as well? I don’t listen much (please see above stated reason).
By jbutler
July 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
So…is the pressure that Frenchy and everyone else are putting on him to “have a monster 2nd half” any better than the expectations that lead to him hanging in the Bayou for his quickie demotion?
DOB Think this road trip will determine whether Braves ship Tex or not?
Saw a hilarious clip on ESPN of the broadcasters doing a stand up w/Smoltz popping in/out making wild gestures. Guess that shoulder feels better!!
By Paddy McGillicutty
July 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
What time do Braves shows come on the radio in ATL and do they offer streaming broadcasts online? I’d sure like to listen and I’m out here in Dallas.
By KC
July 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith: If Tex winds up essentially the post-all-star NL MVP… then I would support the Braves offering him 22 mill for 5 years.
Otherwise… gosh, that’s a lot of money… even if you have it (which the Braves apparently do).
By wiki
July 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
RC Its Dave Martinez. Dennis was a pitcher.
Tavarez…..never liked that guy.
By Graham
July 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Anyone saying “This is the worst lineup they’ve ever seen” must have not been watching the Braves for more than a couple of years.
I agree that the 2001 line-up was horrid. The problem that lies herein is that for the last two years, the Braves have had a better line-up than August 5th, 2001 and have failed to make the post-season. What will they do to correct it?
By Ben Davenport
July 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB, any explanation to why the Braves kept Corky Miller and let go of Pena? I know that Miller’s defense is better, but when you are playing once every ten days wouldn’t it have been nice to have a switch hitter on the bench?
I know thats not the reason the Braves can’t score, but Pena would have helped at least keep McCann rested and healthy for the second half (I am thinking his numbers will drop, but hoping I am wrong).
By Coach Smith
July 8, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
flange1
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I did NOT say we have prospects ready at LF and 1b….re-read it
The prospects we have are at positions that are being played by young players in the MAJORS already
SS, 2nd, C, CF, RF, Some young Pitchers, and Reilevers
So besides Schaefer
where are those guys in the minors going to play? Guys like…..
Brandon Jones, Gorkys, Diore, Perry, Anderson, Lilabridge, Lerew, or even Chuck James
They are blocked by young better players so YOU MGHT AS WELL trade them to fill holes on the Major League roster or let them waste away in the minors
Use them to get you a LF and/or another pitcher fill the other hole in Free Agency
And keep TEX at first b/c that is one position where you have NOTHING in the near future in the minors
By ncscoots
July 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
We need that guy who throws 95-98 consistantly with an off-speed out pitch.
geez-louise, Supes, LOL, you don’t want much, huh? What, 94-95 not enough for you?
Maybe you can pop up that list of guys who throw 98 in the 7th inning, and feature a plus off-speed pitch, to boot.
Shouldn’t take long to write it.
By Acorn(Jeff Francoeur is the worst Right Fielder in the National League)
July 8, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Can anyone really see the Braves selling at the deadline? They will never sell. They’ll think Francoeur will save them with his mighty .280 OBP.
By JohnGTFan
July 8, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Why is everyone trying to figure out a way to save a season that cannot be saved. Most of us knew in April this team was average at BEST! Too old and not enough talent right now. “Potential and age” is what the Braves have. Yes, Tex should be traded. I’m obviously torn on that subject loving the Braves and him being a GT guy…but face facts…this team CANNOT make the playoffs this year, and TEX will not stay here with the millions he’ll get in NY, Boston or Baltimore. Get as much as you can and prepare for the future…don’t kid yourselves…ATL will not only not make the playoffs, they probably won’t finish above .500. DOB this is the reason that everyone is already talking about football season. We need SOMETHING…ANYTHING to look forward to. Because ATL baseball and late October are things of the past.
By Hit Heap Hit!
July 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
*By Paddy McGillicutty
What time do Braves shows come on the radio in ATL and do they offer streaming broadcasts online? I’d sure like to listen and I’m out here in Dallas.*
I have the mlb radio so I can listen at work when they have that once a month or so Thursday day game. It’s 14.99 per season. I couldn’t find a live stream for free online and I don’t like to miss any Braves games so it’s worth 14.99 to me. If someone knows a free site then I’ll certainly bookmark it for next season.
By McFann©
July 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Hit Heap Hit!
Yes, please do!
Hit Heap Hit—
Same as RHR, I presume. OK, if he tears it up tonight, the credit is yours.
Who’s to blame if he doesn’t?
(Just kidding ; ) )
By Efrim
July 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
NcScoots
Maybe you can pop up that list of guys who throw 98 in the 7th inning, and feature a plus off-speed pitch, to boot.
Shouldn’t take long to write it.
Felix Hernandez and Tim Lincecum. Maybe Clayton Kershaw(although that is a bit premature).
Even though it is more like 93-96 with the fastball for Kershaw and Hernandez. Other than those three, I’m not quite sure how many guys can hold there velo in the 7th. Maybe the guy we are seeing tonight.
By AGTfan
July 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
OK. The new blogs been up for 2 hours and most of the necessary elements have already been posted. Someone’s already bashed Bobby Cox. Someone’s already bashed Jeff Francouer. Someone’s already bashed the trade that brought Tex. Someone’s already called for Tex to be traded. Someone’s already called for Tex to be signed at any cost. Someone’s already called for the Braves to go out and get Nady/Bey/Freel. A few of the regular suspects have made rational, well reasoned posts (Shaun, Braveheart). All that’s left before being ready for a new blog is for someone to bash Andruw, the Braves to play, and to get to our normal ratio of 5 ignorant bash and trash posts for every 1 well reasoned post.
By woogidy
July 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Taveras it is.
By Supes
July 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
ncscoots
The exact speed is not the sticking point. An example is a Jaba Chamberlain type prospect, that’s what I’m saying by a power arm.
I mean anywhere in the mid 90’s is a power arm.
We need a legit 30+ HR hitter in LF (prospect would do) and a legit power pitcher.
If both can be had for TEX, and the Braves are 1. Out of it 2. Have no inteions of getting into a bidding war for his services…then trade him for those 2 needs.
By kirknga
July 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
I think people are forgetting that Tex is already making $12 million this season. What we’re talking about is paying him $6-10 million above his current salary to stay a Brave.
Those saying that the braves “can’t ” or “won’t ” resign him aren’t looking at the payroll picture correctly.
As others have pointed out, the Braves will have money to spend this winter.
If the Braves will have some $22-35 million available,then the Braves will have more than enough to pay Tex , a frontline pitcher, and acquire a bat.
I think some people are also confusing their own personal feelings about overpaying athletes and substituting them for the capabilities/willingness of the Braves.
By Coach (Lets Go Braves IN 2009)
July 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
Braveheart, More than one blogger disagreed with my theory in the previous blog that some head butting within the Braves organization was going on concerning the demotion and hasty return of Jeff Francoeur. No one individual would have made such a drastic reversal in the decision making process unless some arm twisting went on.
All is not happy, happy, joy , joy within the ranks of management and upper management and no one will convince me otherwise.
Concerning the probability of trading Teixeira, if the Braves cannot win with him in the lineup, how the HELL ARE WE TO EXPECT THIS TEAM TO PERFORM ANY BETTER IN 2009 WITHOUT HIM?
And yes, that question is loaded like a live grenade. I’ll get ready to jump in my foxhole.
By Einstein
July 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
MEMO TO THE BRAVES FRONT OFFICE: Please stop trying to “jury-rig” this team with cast-offs, has-beens, and washed-ups. You’ll continue to get what you have gotten for the past 3 years and delay bringing a winner to Atlanta. We have really talented young players…coach them up! And, when we need to add to our roster, what do you think a farm system is for. Charley Finley must be laughing from his grave about all the inept decisions Wren, Cox, et al are making. Does anyone think that Bobby Cox is long overdue to retire? Some folks just don’t know when it’s time. BTW, I think Bobby was a great manager, Andruw was a great player, Maddox, Randy Johnson, Glavine, and Clemens were great pitchers, too. If you wait too late, people only remember what you did or didn’t do last.
By brent a.
July 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
And don’t forget the, “I already have all of you figured out; yet, I continue to spend countless hours a day on this blog” post.
We got that one at 5:01 PM.
By AGTfan
July 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
This lineup is the worst I’ve ever seen.
Huh? My God! This blog is full of bandwagon fans who didn’t become Braves fans until the 90’s winning streak. I know, most of you can claim youth as the reason for that. Dude! This lineup looks like the Yankees of Ruth and Gerhig compared to some of those 70s and 80s teams.
By flange1
July 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith,
OK, so you are up for getting into a bidding war for Tex with the Mets and Yankees and spending 20-25 million a year on a guy for 6-7 years?
That is option 1.
Option 2 is keeping him and getting 2 draft choices.
Option 3 is trading him for higher level prospects or ML ready players.
What is your call?
By Steve from OH
July 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
Coach Smith, you’re forgetting the 12.5 Million Tex is making this year. So add Glavine’s 8 Million to that, and that’s 20.5 Million/yr for Tex. Heck, we could even throw in 2 mill of Hammy’s freed up $$ and still have 12 Million left to spend (I’m not taking into account arbitration/salary raises right now, too lazy to look. If anyone’s got that, that would be great). We could give Tex a big raise and still break even or have a little cash left over to spend. Throw in Liberty’s claims that they’ll raise payroll if JS asks…I think we’ve got a legitimate shot to keep Tex. Along with the fact that we have not a soul in the system that’s even close to being ready to take over 1B full time (don’t even say Thorman can take over), and the free agent 1B market next year is very thin, I’d say it would be prudent to not trade Tex and try to resign him next year.
By TRUE BRAVAES FAN
July 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
Julian Tavarez??? Aren’t we scraping the bottom of the barrel???
By Steve from OH
July 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
I forgot to mention that I’m not taking Smoltz off the payroll because I think he’ll be back next year, although the cash will probably be less.
By THB
July 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
kirknga-I understand the Braves have a lot of money to spend. But what about all the raises in arbitration and what not this offseason? I’m honestly wondering who is eligible for arbitration.
Also, if we have money to spend this year, what about next year and the years after? Would you sign Tex if it meant we might not be able to extend Yunel, Reyes, Jurrjens, Kelly, and possibly Francoeur? Those are a lot of players that are young and good and will command a lot more money very soon.
By Braveheart
July 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
Braveheart, I know you want to sign Tex. DO you think the Braves will win a bidding war for Tex?
Flange1, I don’t think the Braves will win a bidding war for Tex but I think they need to engage themselves in it. 7 years, $150 mil is what they need to offer and not go higher. Tex is too valuable as a run creator and producer to let him go.
It’s too scary to think about but the Braves are in some serious, serious trouble next year without Tex. And I mean some really serious trouble.
They no longer have Smoltz. Their best hitter is understandably injury prone at his age. Their second best hitter is a catcher who has to miss 30 games a year and be run down at other times during the year.
Unless Francoeur, KJ, and Yunel take a superstar leap like Rollins, Utley and Howard did when the Phils rid themselves of Abreu and Thome, the Braves are gonna have an incredibly hard time scoring runs in the next few years if they don’t have Tex.
With a pitching staff that figures to be unpredictable and to give up alot of runs because the staff will be very young and very inexperienced, the Braves could be a very horrible team.
Smoltz and Tex are that important in creating the run differentials that create wins
By Hit Heap Hit!
July 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
I suppose that blame would also be mine, McFann
Don’t let me down, Mac!
By David O'Brien
July 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Yes, Braves signed Julian Tavarez
By Colonel Lingus
July 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
For those interested, Matt Harrison is making his first Major League Start tonight for Texas. As you remember he was the highly touted Braves prospect traded for Tex.
By AGTfan
July 8, 2008 5:21 PM |