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By AGTfan

May 14, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

I’m usually the most optimistic person, but the late inning stats have me bummed. To me it indicates a lack of clutch hitting and if it doesn’t turn around, I don’t see this team making the play-offs.

By TennesseePaul

May 14, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the Blog DOB. And in the spirit of providing a friendly forum on which to exchange ideas of baseball… NEW BLOG IS UP. Attack!

Ha! I love it.

By BillSnv

May 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Thanks DOB! Go Braves!!

By Charles

May 14, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

DOB

Do you see a lack of consistency (which I mean the same players in the same spot) in the line-up, with the exception of Chipper and Tex? It seems that they are the only two players who are always batting in the same spot, while McCann and Frenchy get flip-flopped, the lead-off batter and second batter change constantly, and even the bottom of the line-up changes with the exception of the pitcher.

Could a lack of consistency be causing a problem mentally for the hitters? I realize that strategy (lefty vs righty, etc) plays into this, but it does not necessarily bring consistency. They are not able to adjust and get comfortable, from what I see.

Frenchy’s faux paux at this point is his overzealousness to want to produce in clutch situations, so he tries too hard. He is young, only three years in, and is still learning. He was quite clutch in his first full year.

By bravesfan

May 14, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

DOB, when you find out, let us know if Tex is in the lineup, please…

By chc4

May 14, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Kelly Johnson reminds me of LaRoche… lackadaisical and totally unfocused.

By sm

May 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

first

By Thrillhouse44

May 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

DOB, please Bamberger not to put Chipper on the cover! This team can’t afford an SI cover jinx!

By JCFROMUT

May 14, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Any word on Tex?

By Shaun

May 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

N8 and other Cox haters from the last blog: I don’t know of anyone who would reasonably argue that Bobby Cox is solely responsible for the Braves’ successful run. But it’s hard to deny Bobby Cox’s impact when you look at the Braves’ run and you listen to what all the insiders say about Cox.

No one can ever know what would have happened had someone switched placed with Cox. It’s true to a large degree that a manager is only as good as his players. Do you seriously think Terry Francona was a completely different manager in Philly than he is in Boston? Do you think Dusty Baker was significantly different in San Fran than he is in Cincy or than he was in Chicago?

So, it’s not just about Bobby Cox’s win-loss records. It’s about the win-loss record and his reputation with players, coaches, other managers, broadcasters, writers, front office people and other insiders.

It’s not as simple as “The Braves had Hall of Famers and that’s why they were good, so therefore Cox wasn’t any good.” That’s a very simplistic way of looking at it. That would be similar to saying Ernie Banks wasn’t a Hall of Famer because he never won the World Series.

By Evan

May 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

DOB, Good call with the My Morning Jacket, great live band. You should get the MGMT CD Oracular Spectacular the next time you go album shopping.

By Efrim

May 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

CHC4

Kelly Johnson reminds me of LaRoche… lackadaisical and totally unfocused.

Strange, he reminds me of a poor mans Chase Utley…..which makes him an excellent player considering Utley might be the best hitter in the league.

By AGTfan

May 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

If someone had predicted pre-season that the 2 Florida teams would be leading their divisions on May 14th, I would have laughed until I stroked out.

This has been a strange season so far.

By N8

May 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

BA

That was a fair and reasonable assessment. I can’t argue with much of your OPINION. But I think there is a couple of “facts” that are debatable.

“The last two years? Not enough pitching, period.”

Totally agree. Injuries and bad decisions (like counting on Hampton to be healthy - and not finding a way to add Glavine), handi-capped the team.

“Cox didn’t wake up stupid two years ago.”

I’ve never said that he is stupid. Quite the opposite actually. Some of his decisions, and loyalty to guys NOT producing has to be questioned at times though, IMO. But your previous statement, along with this one, combine to BACK MY POINT UP.

Which is that Cox isn’t doing ANYTHING differently with this team, than he did when he DID have great pitching, and the results are different. Which tells me that the lack of talent now compared to the days of the “Big 3”, has more to do with Bobby’s success/failure in his career.

“And all those free agents over the years? They didn’t come here because of Mazzone, etc. They came here to play for Bobby Cox, renowned as the best manager in MLB by the people who should know, the players.”

While it may have had to do with them SIGNING EXTENSIONS, (that and just realizing that the TEAM was very talented and that the check-book of Turner was endless - thus giving them a good shot at winning as they would have anywhere). But there REALLY wasn’t too many free agents (other than veterans and castaways that nobody wanted, that signed with the Braves.

I’m talking about the BIG acquisitions, now. Not guys like Robert Fick.

Let’s run them down.

TP, Bream and Belliard. Not so sure Bobby’s “reputation” had much to do with them signing on in 1991.

Maddux? He turned down the Yankees. (Can anybody REALLY have seen Maddux in pin-stripes?). Maybe he came to Atlanta for Bobby. Maybe he just wanted to be paired up with the guy who won the Cy Young before him, and two of the most dominant pitchers (at that time) in the post-season, in Avery and Smoltz?

McGriff? Trade.

Grissom? Trade.

Neagle? Trade.

Galarraga & Weiss were free agent signings. Maybe they came to the Braves for Bobby. Maybe they came because the team had won the WS in 95 (knocking their Rockies out of the playoffs), lost in the WS in 96, and lost in the NLCS in 97? Maybe it just happened to be the biggest dollar amount they were offered. LOL!

Brian Jordan was a free agent. That counts for something, I guess.

Russ Ortiz? Trade.

Mike Hampton? Trade (let’s not forget he DID help that first year).

JD Drew? Trade.

Sheffield? Trade.

Renteria? Trade.

Tim Hudson? Trade.

Bottom line, is that JS and now Wren have NOT been big players in the free agent market. Like I said, the players they traded for that signed extensions (McGriff).

In fact, more guys have LEFT for big dollar amounts than have come here for big dollar amounts in the free agent process. One COULD argue that if Bobby was so darn good, that guys like Sheff, Drew, Furcal, Andruw, Maddux, Glavine, Wright, Farnsworth, etc…. would have stayed for less, right?

Before you jump me, I get that their agents and the players union has a “little bit” to do with NOT settling for less, but you get the point.

NOW. If the payroll would be unlimited like years past, one could argue that many of those guys that left, would have stayed with Bobby (and their Braves teammates), if the money being offered was equal. That of course cannot be put on Bobby.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

KJ looked pretty good last night after Bobby dropped him down to 7th in the batting order. He is not a lead off hitter!!

By Tim Hardeman

May 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

I think you were correct in your original assessment that Francoeur needed some time off. We don’t need another Punch & Judy hitter in a corner outfield position. I would prefer that he hit for a lower average and regain his stroke as a home run hitter. Our outfielders are a bunch of weak sisters in the power department.

By Braves20

May 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

After six weeks into the season for us to assume we will be any better than a 3rd place team is folly.

At least not until we can get Chipper hit fourth as well as third and perhaps lead off. There are probably a couple other spots on the club it would do well to plug him in as well.

Only fear is that what is possibly the best year by a position player in Atlanta history is going to be overshadowed by a third place finish when they count the MVP votes in October.

By TURTSNAP

May 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

While the numbers don’t constitute it (yet), the Braves still need to make a move to bring in a quality number 2 or 3 SP. Not having Smoltz there will burn sooner or later. DOB, any rumors?

By deepinmetsterritory

May 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

My Morning Jacket has a great cover of the Erykah Badu (I think that’s how she spells it) song, “Tyrone.” I know it’s a big women’s anthem or whatever, but they cover the heck out of it. Reverb makes it cooler.

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I dont understand how the Braves are so good at home and so horrible on the road. Occasionally you see this with teams but normally that is teams like the Red Sox, Cardinals, Cubs, you know teams with good fans. Braves fans are horrible. Braves rarely sell more than 40,000 tickets to a game. So I dont understand what difference does it make if they are playing at home or away.

Also what has happened to Francouer. The last 2 years Francouer has been in the top 3 in two out rbi’s. He used to be Mr. Clutch. What has happened?

By Charlie

May 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

What is the scoop on Hampton right now?

By 18 Wheels of Love

May 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Home Field Advantage

With all due respect to The Drive-By Truckers, who I go see live tomorrow night!

HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE

You ain’t much of an away team since you lost three of four.

You don’t have what it takes yet cause there’s the cellar door.

Now you’ve takin’ me down and claimed yer road rage is happnin’.

Now they’re callin’ you out even with yer home field advantage.

Van Benschoten may have thrown you a curveball.

Yeah, he threw a doozie at you.

You ain’t heard ‘bout Van Benschoten but he sure heard about you.

And now he’s callin’ you out and you claim your road rage is happnin’.

You don’t know what to do. Yeah, you’re lookin’ around.

Nobody’s at home and you don’t know the count.

Well, you come back and lose by one.

Now you’ve takin’ me down and claimed yer road rage is happnin’.

Now they’re callin’ you out even with yer home field advantage.

By bravedawg

May 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

DOB you stated it, the 1 run loss thing is in the minds of everyone, because that is all you the media want to talk about! I know the braves aren’t playing stellar yet, but how come we can’t focus on the fact that they are only 3.5 games out, right at .500 with over 4 months left in the season. Some of these stats that the media shove down our throats don’t mean crap. Who cares if they lose by one run or 8 runs it is still a loss. The fact is as a 9 man line up we aren’t hitting consistantly yet, especially in scoring situations. If they can just focus on one at bat at a time, this team is good enough to win this division especially when we get fully healthy. Quit talking about the one run crap. Who cares! Let’s focus on one at a time and I still strongly believe we will be in the hunt at the end. And personally I think we will win the division.

By N8

May 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

DOB

Nice blog. Succinct and to the point.

My favorite part was:

“Yes, the Braves currently lead the NL in batting average (.283). But tell me that doesn’t seem like a mighty hollow distinction?”

Be careful. Some on here might not like you questioning the league-leading offense. LOL!

On a side note, isn’t INSANE that Glavine has YET to get a victory in his return to Atlanta and it’s the middle of May? Unreal.

Isn’t it MORE insane that Francoeur hasn’t hit a HR since his April 12th game against the Nats (2 HR - 7 RBI that day)? Yikes.

DOB, did you see Duffy on Conan last night? Not sure if it was a re-run or not. You’re right. She is HOTTTTT! Oh. She can sing too.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Just got finished reading the last blog and it seems to me like there are alot on knee jerk reactions going on out there this early in the season about the rotation. Sure the rotation is not what we expected coming out of spring training but they are pitching well. Jo-Jo looked really good last night. He was in command of the strike zone and his curve was nasty.

I for one think it’s way to early to be talking about block buster trades for a front of the rotation pitcher.

What we need is for our position player to quit stranding runners in scoring position. This is the NL not the AL so we need to quit trying to rely on the long ball and start playing small ball.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Braveheart: I agree with your last post, well at least the 2nd part of it, like i agree with you 97% of the time.

Efrim: It’s not that I hate KJ. He’s a real nice, respectable kid. But i don’t like how he plays. I was skeptical of giving the kid the everyday second base job last year after he hit only .250 in 2005 AND missed all of 2006. However, i was a supporter of his work ethic and was anxious to see how he would do.

KJ did a helluva job adjusting to second base. You’re damn right i wanted him to play when i saw woodcrap get spot starts last season. He started off last year on fire in April, but dwindled considerably since then, having only 1 other hot stretch (july). Other than that, he’s reminded me of his 2005 self, and continued to make errors on the field late last season in close games, much like he displayed last night on the DP grounder.

Pitchers are getting ahead of him this year, and he hasn’t adjusted.

The guy is hardly clutch. Part of my frustration with him is Bobby Cox leaving him in the leadoff spot. That has made it easy for me to want another option.

I understand he’s still young and is in his 3rd season now. I understand most braves fans love KJ because of his OBP and power potential. Heck, most of you think he’ll be another utely. But all i’ve seen lately is a guy who strikes out every 5.2 AB and walks every 9.2 AB. To put that in perspective, Frenchy K’s every 8.3 AB. The only 2 braves that K more often than KJ are Diaz (4.3 AB) and Blanco (4.1 AB). Look it up here.

KJ’s possible replacement, prado K’s every 13 AB and walks every 5.6 (total opposite), not to mention hits for a higher average and will have better D with the same amount of experience KJ’s had at second. He’ll double more often, and is a more aggressive and astute baserunner.

Even if you look at career leverage situations, the stats are also a complete opposite for KJ and prado (though prado’s has limited AB). Prado High lev: .385, Med: .269, Low: .242. KJ High: .215, Med: .268, Low: .281. Opposing trends! The trend is the same when the game is tied, 1-run, 2 run, > 3-runs as well.

Again, i don’t like to hate on KJ, but how long do we give him to turn into the Utely we think he’s going to be? We waited quite a long time for AJ’s breakthrough season, and are being over patient with other young braves such as Frenchy. That was fine when we had Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine in their youthful primes. But now waiting years for these kids to be impact players, i fear, is the main problem with our Houdini offense. Why not let kids play who might be impact players already? No one knew escobar would be until he was given the shot.

2 of our 3 best players (escobar, JJ) are Latin players. Why not add a 3rd when he’s healthy again?

So yeah Efrim and the other KJ lovers on this blog (shaun,scoots, etc), I like KJ, but i wouldn’t mind seeing him be replaced, and the braves considered it last offseason. If the braves make the unlikely switch, and it fails, or the numbers turn around, then you can let me have it. Until then, it will always be my opinion and discussions like this will continue.

By Bravosimos

May 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

After the 6th we should change uniforms from the Braves to the Cowards.

By eric the elder

May 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

DOB, not a criticism - - just curious.

The songs of the 40s (yes, I remember them),when we were in a terrible war, were full of optimism, tenderness, dreams of a white Christmas, and wonderful aromas from the kitchen.

Today’s songs seem so full of depression and drowning in self pity. “They” did this to me, “they” did that. “They” are responsible for the disaster that is my life.

Mix in a little anger and intimidation and whining, and we have the contemporary music culture. Little wonder that so many of our youth are neurotic.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Just got finished reading the last blog and it seems to me like there are alot on knee jerk reactions going on out there this early in the season about the rotation. Sure the rotation is not what we expected coming out of spring training but they are pitching well. Jo-Jo looked really good last night. He was in command of the strike zone and his curve was nasty.

I for one think it’s way to early to be talking about block buster trades for a front of the rotation pitcher.

What we need is for our position player to quit stranding runners in scoring position. This is the NL not the AL so we need to quit trying to rely on the long ball and start playing small ball.

By Cecil34

May 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

N8

Correct me if I am wrong - but what you are trying to say is that a manager manages to the talent he has at any given time.

Meaning that managing a team year in and year out is a fluid process, and cannot be rigidly set in stone.

Some years will require more effort and astute thinking than other years.

When the talent pool is high, the amount of abstract thinking and effort is at a minimum - but it is percieved as managing excellence.

When the talent pool is lower, the amount of “out of the box” thinking and decision-making ability must match up. Thus this determines whether the percieved excellence is real or imagined.

So as to get the most out of the lower talent pool.

Lower talent pool = much more effort and innovative thinking to produce the same results.

If the manager is not able to conjure up more abstract thinking (baseball savvy) and CORRECT decision-making ability to fit the circumstances, then the team will fail when it possibly could have succeeded with a more adept manager.

Does that sound like I am in the “ballpark”?

By Caleb

May 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

DOB, to further back up your point about the Braves and Kotsay, Oakland is essentially paying 5.5 million (the rest of Kotsay’s deal) plus whatever league minimum he makes for Devine. That’s alot for a middle reliever.

By champ

May 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

“Lose an Andruw, gain an Andruw.” That might be the best quote of the year. Francoeur’s last two at bats last night were horrible. I understand that he is an “aggressive” hitter, but you have to have an approach when you go up to bat. The pitcher just threw 4 straight balls, what do you do? Swing at the first pitch that is a foot outside and miss. Second pitch swing at another ball and miss. I just hope he doesn’t turn into Andruw of the past couple years, occasionally have the big game or two, followed by a few weeks of looking bad. He will get his RBIs because he plays everyday, but he does not have Andruw’s power. So let’s hope he learns how to hit because a .260 18 95 year from the Braves “star” right fielder will not work.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

FloridaBrave

Excellent post [last blog]!(http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2008/05/13/bravesphillies.html#comment-62527903)

Been my stance for quite a while.

By N8

May 14, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Here’s a twist of irony (or maybe it’s bad luck), that strikes me as funny/odd.

ALL WINTER (before we traded for Kotsay), people were saying that either Shafer or Anderson could be the CF, and when Blanco was brought into the conversation, DOB stated that he wasn’t really on the radar.

Mainly because he has very little power, and being the guy to replace Andruw, that person should have some power.

Yet, if you take away Jeff’s 3 for 5, 2HR & 7 RBI day against the Nats out of the equation, he has gone 40-150 (.266) with 1 HR and 17 RBI, in the OTHER 37 games he’s played in.

If the Braves weren’t willing to give Blanco a job in CF (allowing us to keep Devine - I know, Kotsay’s been fine and Devine needed a change of scenery - I still like that move), why on earth are they willing to “tolerate” such weak production from the Golden Boy?

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

shaun

nice post at 2:57.

By D.Ellis

May 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

I love the Braves. I watch them every chance I get. However I am a realist. I have said it before and I will say it again. This is a %500 ball club. I am a huge Braves fan. However with the other teams in the East getting better through the years….and our pitching staff that looks like a mailing list for Social security checks……it will continue to be a %500 ball club.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

We know Chipper is going to hit the ball, so when Yunel and Kotsay get on in front of him we need them to be running. I would hit and run in just about any situation when Chipper is at the plate with the way he has been killing the ball this year.

It seems, especially in the late innings, we are not trying to get runners on and then move them over. We are going to the plate swinging for the fences trying to tie or either win these 1 run games.

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Shaun I completely agree with your 2:57 post.

N8, dont get angry, I going to disagree your post some. Im glad that you agree last year was not Bobby’s fault. You cant win when you cant get anything out of your 3,4,5 pitchers. It just cant be done.

You say Bobby is not doing anything, so Im assuming you mean he needs to make changes to stir things up. Well in the past he hasnt done this, I know he had alot better players, but every player goes through slumps and most managers would of made changes. More times than not when you make changes to superstars they dont respond well. Maybe Bobby does need to make changes but that just isnt the way he manages. I dont know if it is right or wrong. You can get examples supporting it and also getting examples to show it is wrong.

You say the Braves havent been big in the Free-Agent Market and that may be true. Maddux is about the only big name we went out and got but I remember the Maddux signing a little different. I recall for awhile the Yankees pursued him and finally the Braves got in the bidding war and Maddux turned down the Yankees and chose the Braves. We later learned that the reason they went after Maddux because they couldnt get Bonds.

Also you say no one ever signed a contract extension. McGriff(who you named did), Glavine did at one time, Smoltz has, and Maddux did a couple times. Also Andruw also did the first time and the second time he really didnt get an oppurtunity because the Braves didnt offer him anything last offseason.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Hey guys, first post here but have read the blog for quite some time. Keep up the great work, DOB.

First, I love Kelly Johnson. I think he has the potential to develop into a guy who can hit consistently hit in the .280-.300 range and pop 20-25 HRs a year. He’s got the eye and the short stroke to do so. Last year he seemed to make a season out of getting ahead in the count and ambushing pitchers but this year pitches have read the reports and are getting ahead of him early and he hasn’t adjusted. He’ll eventually make the adjustment but I agree with the people who think he should be traded. I think we could move him to 1B when Tex leaves but he holds too much value to another team as a 2B then he does to us as a 1B. I don’t think Prado will continue hitting like he has but I’m a firm believer in defense up the middle and situational hitting and I think both would improve with Prado at 2B. I think Kelly as a centerpiece of a deal(with of course other players added on our end) could land us Blanton or Harden from the A’s or maybe we can swing him straight up for Ian Snell. We need a horse in our rotation with Hampton constantly injured, Smoltz heading to the pen, and with Glavine being 40-something years old. It makes too much sense for the Braves to do.

As for Kotsay, I am not surprised by how he’s hit considering the move to the NL but I will admit I’m surprised by his defense and by how he’s stayed healthy. I really hope he continues to stay healthy because, despite how Devine’s pitching, you have to love this deal. You can expect every player the Braves trade to suck. This is one of those deals that have benefited each team. The Braves couldn’t have expected Moylan and Soriano getting hurt when they did this trade but even so, Kotsay has been a consummate professional for this team.

Lastly, I have to say I was really impressed with Jo-Jo Reyes despite the stat line. He got ahead of hitters with first pitch strikes and really trusted his stuff. The Phillies brought they’re hitting shoes and benefited from some lucky hits and mediocre defense, but Jo-Jo made them beat him instead of beating himself with walks and kept us in the game against a great team. I won’t get too excited though because Jo-Jo still has to show consistency but it’s been a good start this year for Jo-Jo.

By PrincetonBrave

May 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I’ll be in the stands tonight fellas.

Not sure whether to expect any trouble from the Philly fans or not. They seem to be too busy hating their own team to notice much else.

Go Bravos!

By Yars

May 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

KJ’s bat could heat up big time in the #7 hole while facing RH starting pitching & LH relief pitching, & Bobby will still most likely go with Infante when Braves are facing LH starting pitching. KJ is too good to be in some platoon at 2B. He looked good at the plate last night. Is that what we are looking at right now? A KJ/Infante platoon at 2B? now playing: discipline by nine inch nails.

By monty

May 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

I’m convinced that the Braves hitters simply don’t see enough pitches. I saw several hitters make easy outs on the 1st pitch last night,and it’s that way most games. I wish some of you “stats guys” could find one on how the Braves batters compare to the rest of the league as far as seeing pitches per at bat. Maybe they are average, but I have my suspicion that they aren’t. I used to pitch in High School and American Legion ball and I loved to face undisciplined hitters who would fish for anything I threw up there.

Franceour’s problem is his success at swinging at first pitches. If you make an out in the 1st or 4th inning swinging at bad balls,it’s a non-productive at bat, but when you swing at bad pitches with the game on the line and dig yourself a hole against a pitcher who is struggling at the moment you look like Andrew Jones!

By chase (the original)

May 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Overlord and Richie

I think (No matter what LEW says)

It is better to let YUNEL hit lower in the order where there is a chance that more people are on when he hits…

Overlord

I think I really really like the idea of YUNEL hitting 3rd…that gives to guys ahead of him that he could drive in and still lets him hit ahead of CHIPPER…ME LIKEY ALOT!

brent a and others arguing with LEW

Welcome to my world…now some of you may ralize that that arguement betweeen me and LEW the other day MAY not have been my fault (even as many piled on)

Lew it seems like you get into alot of these and you always think you are right and everyone else is wrong…

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

What a performance in AA by Tommy Hanson! The night after he was promoted he goes 6.1 IP and only gives up 1 run for his first AA win. This guy is the real deal!

Hope the Braves let him develop in the minors before they try bringing him up. He could be like Avery was when they brought him up straight from A ball, or was it AA, but I doubt it. He needs to finish developing first.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Couple of you have asked about Hampton. Guys, Hampton isn’t a topic of conversation right now, simply because he’s weeks away from returning. Not even on the trip. Hadn’t even begun throwing when we left town, so until he starts throwing there’s not sense in monitoring his every move and updating you on it. So many other issues.

Braves could really use him, obviously. But it’s not happening at least for a few weeks, and I’m done predicting when he’ll be back for real.

By N8

May 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Cecil34

Is that a trick question? LOL!

That pretty much sums it up.

Ultimately, Bobby has done a nice job of getting the most out of guys, whether it be platooning, or roles in the bullpen.

But having said that, I’m gonna venture a guess that if Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz were part of ANY OTHER team’s rotation at the same time in from 1993 to 2001, that that team more than likely would have won a WS too, along with more than likely winning the division, year in and year out.

Not sure who is on Buck and Kincade right now, but he just had an “interesting” stat/number on 1-run games.

The 8 playoff teams last year, were a COMBINED 6 games over .500 in 1-run games. The last two WS winners? Red Sox: 6 games under in 1-run games, Cardinals in 2006: 5 games under in 1-run games.

So I guess, ultimately, we need to hope like hell that we don’t play in 80 or 90 1-run games. LOL!

For me, (and I’ve said this a few times), it’s the MANNER in which they’ve been losing. Not the losing itself.

By Efrim

May 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Bobby’s Cox

Well thought out post. Where are you getting those Prado stats though? This season? Small sample size. He doesn’t hit for as much power as Kelly and I don’t think he has the OBP skills either, or at least hasn’t judging by his minor league numbers. Kelly is struggling and a move down the order might be what’s best for the team right now, although I am not quite sure why we don’t just stick Kotsay at leadoff and keep Escobar where he is comfortable, the 2 hole.

By Chop Chop

May 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Bobby Cox had great pitchers for a long time, but he also generally made good decisions over the years. He definitely had a great deal to do with the Braves’ success during those division-winning years. However, I’ve felt for a couple of years now that it is time for the Braves to find a new skipper and move on.

While it’s plainly obvious to me that Bobby will get to manage until he’s ready to hang ‘em up (which is a very nice sentiment and example of the respect this organization has for Bobby), that doesn’t mean that the team is benefited. This current roster can’t flip a switch and get it done like the Braves teams of old. Bobby hasn’t been able to find the switch in recent years (he desperately searches for relievers he can count on; he sends runners more; more team meetings have occurred), which is a big reason why Glavine was brought back. “I can trust Tommy” is a nice sentiment, but Tommy (a guy I have immense respect for because of his Hall of Fame contributions to this franchise) isn’t good enough to win (or even take part in) many of those low-scoring 2-1, 3-2 games the way he used to. You can’t manage a team in the past. Bobby knows that, but it’s natural for managers to seek a comfort zone. Glavine gives Bobby a comfort zone.

This brings me to why Francoeur never gets a day off. It’s because Francoeur does whatever Bobby asks him to do. He never complains about anything. (McCann is the same type of guy.) Players love that kind of reciprocal respect from a manager, but it’s up to a manager to deduce that a player might need a rest whether he wants it or not. Sure, Francoeur’s been killing the ball the last two days, but does that justify Cox constantly running the guy out there when he’s meekly trotting to the clubhouse after his umpteenth first-pitch groundout to short in two weeks? I sure as hell don’t think so. After all, every player has slumps, but he can control whether he takes a pitch or not. I believe that Francoeur owes Bobby that kind of respect. You know, the respect to not give away so many at-bats by being an easy out. It’s only fair, right?

Look. Unlike Coach, I’m not a future Hall of Fame manager. If Bobby were judged on the small sample size (thanks, Shaun) of the last three seasons, Bobby wouldn’t be a Hall of Famer. It takes great (or talented, competitive, and malleable) players to make a Hall of Fame skipper. Bobby had players like that for years. Bobby only has one who’s able to achieve greatness (Chipper) now. Most of the other Braves players are still just finding their way in the bigs. I don’t think Bobby’s the right guy for this team, but I hope he’ll find some kind of magic for old times’ sake. It would be nice to end with a bang instead of a whimper.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Francouer’s still young and he’s still trying to find a balance between being patient at the plate and putting up his power numbers. Right now, it’s obvious he can’t do one without sacrificing the other but let’s still be patient with him.

By TJ

May 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

We know Chipper is going to hit the ball, so when Yunel and Kotsay get on in front of him we need them to be running. I would hit and run in just about any situation when Chipper is at the plate with the way he has been killing the ball this year.

Respectfully disagree, Jon1. First, none of our top 2 hitters (KJ, Escobar, Blanco, Kotsay…really no one on our team) is a great base stealer.

More importantly, you put on the hit-and-run, you’re basically telling Chipper “you have to swing at this pitch.” If he doesn’t swing, we risk taking a runner off base ahead of him; and if he does, he’s likely swinging at a pitch he wouldn’t otherwise swing at. And, it’s a distraction to the hitter to have a runner going.

I think people need to give up on this dream of the Braves playing small ball. We don’t have the personnel to do it successfully.

We need some slugging, as DOB pointed out. If we don’t get it, we’re gonna have a mediocre offense.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

You don’t bat Yunel 3rd. You don’t move your best hitter(Jones, obviously) out of the spot he’s most comfortable. That doesn’t benefit the lineup at all.

By chc4

May 14, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Efrim… KJ reminds me you of a poor man’s Chase Utley?? How poor are we talking? Wow, I couldn’t disagree more.

By The Crab

May 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

D. Ellis - I agree. Even the Marlins have gotten better and the Braves have not. It is time for players like Frenchy and K.J. to develop into all-star status and they are not.

By Nomar Garciaparra

May 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

What are you talking about, Thrillhouse? There’s no SI cover jinx.

By mr baseball

May 14, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

When a team is consistently losing 1-run games, you have to look at the managing. And the closer you look at Cox’s attempts at strategerie, the more you understand why the Braves’ record in 1-run games is what it is.

He consistently leaves his starting pitcher in 1 inning or 1 batter too long. In the last week, he’s done it with Glavine, James and last night with Reyes. The bullpen is not over-worked, but it will be if he keeps running the same 3 or 4 guys out there every night. There are 7 guys in the ‘pen. Use them, other than Resop, who serves no purpose other than to pitch in mop-up situations.

He can’t come up with a lineup that makes optimal use of the hitters he has. Hitting Norton ahead of Francouer and Johnson last night made absolutely no sense, and definitely played a role in the loss. Blanco is useless in the 8 hole, but is probably not a good enough hitter to bat leadoff. The answer for LF may be to get a new one, someone who maybe can drive in runs, something the 2 current occupants can’t.

Not sure who’s responsible, but someone needs to to work with the pitchers on bunting. That also could have cost the game last night.

Given the ability of this team to hit into DPs, it might not be a bad idea to occasionally put runners in motion (except when Chipper is hitting). Both Escobar & Kotsay consistently put the bat on the ball and are both prone to ground into DPs. Blanco keeps getting on base and keeps getting stranded. Let him run some, even with the pitcher at the plate.

Cox has some admirable qualities as a manager, but most of them end once the game starts. Not sure what you can do about a guy who is a quality manager in the clubhouse but a dismal failure in the dugout.

By DAP

May 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

bobby’s cox jurjens is dutch.

By ManOfTeal

May 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Go Marlins!!!!

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Jon I disagree with you. I personally hate the hit and run. Seems like almost evertime it is used the ball gets hit right at someone and it is an automatic DP. Chipper is batting over .400 but that means over half the time he gets out and if he hits right at someone it is an automatic DP. Just let Chipper hit and if he gets a hit, especially with Escobars speed, Kotsay and Escobar should score.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Yeah, expecting Prado to extrapolate the stats he’s put up thus far over a season is way too optimistic. But I’m willing to trade KJ for a starting pitcher mainly because I want better defense up the middle and I think Prado will offer two things our offense is lacking- speed and situational hitting. Our situational hitting has been horrendous for the past year or two(if not more)With those two things Prado adds, I don’t think our offense will miss Kelly that much even though he is a far superior hitter to Prado.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

FloridaBrave

Thanks for reposting that masterpiece at 3:36.

It is very likely we’ll try to get Harden/Blanton/ or even a reliever Casillo from Oakland. The A’s are going to deal Harden this year. They’ve already said so. They may be reluctant in pulling a bigger trade if they continue to stay close to the Angels though.

By N8

May 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Eric from MO

“N8, dont get angry, I going to disagree your post some.”

Why would I get angry? LOL!

“Im glad that you agree last year was not Bobby’s fault. You cant win when you cant get anything out of your 3,4,5 pitchers. It just cant be done.”

So you’re glad that I concede that last year wasn’t Bobby’s fault, yet you aren’t agreeing that when he had 3 HOF pitchers in his rotation, he should be able to take full credit (or as much that is given to him), for winning WITH good production in the 3-4-5 spots. There was a couple of years that we were essentially 4 deep as far as ACES go. One year that we were 5 deep (1998?). Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Millwood, Neagle. EVERY ONE OF THOSE GUYS would have been the Ace of the other teams in baseball that didn’t have Randy Johsnon, Roger Clemens and Pedro Martinez on the staff.

“You say Bobby is not doing anything, so Im assuming you mean he needs to make changes to stir things up.”

You would be correct.

“More times than not when you make changes to superstars they dont respond well.”

How many superstars besides Tex and Chipper, are actually on this team?

As for the guys you listed that signed extensions. You’re right about Maddux, I forgot to add him to the McGriff list.

But the other guys were all guys that were ALREADY Braves. I meant of the guys we traded for, that signed extensions. Meaning, they might not have come to Atlanta by choice, but chose to STAY there.

By Efrim

May 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

CHC4

Remember Utley is turning 30 this year. He is a tad older than some may think.

Check out Utley’s 2005 numbers when he was 26(same age as Kelly). Comparable numbers. Not as good, but comparable.

By McFann

May 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Chop Chop—

The third paragraph of your 3:49 post was very good. I like players who don’t complain (obviously). I think they should tough up and act like men. And yeah, Francoeur’s past two or three games doesn’t necessarily justify him to still be playing every day.

My thing is this: If your playing good, there’s no real reason to sit out, unless your really hurting somewhere. If you’ve been stinking the place up with your first-pitch nonsense, then it’s time to take one day.

I like what you said about slumps. Every payer has ‘em, but they don’t have to swing at everything. It’s most likely easier to avoid bad slumps if you take the occasional first pitch.

I also agree that he owes it to Bobby. If the manager thinks enough of you to put you in everyday—whether the fans like it or not—then you should respect that, and not give away the ABs. I think it’s extremely fair.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Not to sound like a broken record, but I’d point to our situational hitting before Cox as to why we’re losing close games. Tex will start to hit and with Sori/Gonzo/and Smoltz in the back end of the pen, I’m sure the trend will end soon enough.

By albanian braves fan

May 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

obrien say: “also got… my morning jacket which i’d only owned on a burned copy.”

possibly is not so good smoking cigars with morning jacket on. keeping fire extinguishing nearby is also good.

By brent a.

May 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Chase,

I never thought I’d see the day when you and I might see eye-to-eye :).

But, here’s the reality, I am happy to admit that I am argumentative. I’ll argue if I have time, but I try not to argue when A) I don’t know anything about a topic, or B) I am completely wrong. (In essense, I don’t WANT to argue, just for the sake of keeping of an argument going).

Anyway, I had told myself two year’s ago that I would basically ignore Lew’s posts, or at least never comment about them. (I have my reasons, but don’t need to go into them - I’m not trying to offend here) but last night, he just happened to post something I disagreed with enough that I decided to respond. I wasn’t angry, I just disagreed with it and responded. It’s shocking to me that it got Lew angry. I actually think a lot of that goes on around here, though.

One thing I have learned about message boards and blogs is this: people have a tendency to not really read what someone else is saying/writing. If they recognize that the person doesn’t agree with them, they often respond negatively, and often in way that shows that they aren’t really reading what the other person says; but rather, they are simply responding negatively because someone appeared to disagree with them. And lastly, I’ve also noticed that when someone recognizes that he/she is wrong/backed into a corner/has nothing else left to say, etc., they typically respond with name-calling. Name calling truly is the last resort of a scoundrel. After all, when all else fails, why not talk about someone’s mama?

Later.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Great minds think alike, Bobby’s Cox

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

TJ I agree that we do no have blistering speed but we do have enough speed to move runners up. Chipper has shown that he has great plate coverage (even off the plate coverage). Don’t take my word for it have DOB ask J.C. Romero about Chipper’s hit against him last night. That slider was almost in the dirt and off the outside edge of the plate and Chipper got a base hit anyhow.

It would be easier with the lineup we have to just slug the ball but that’s not happening right now. We have to do something else until the bats heat up and stay hot!

Right now Chipper, Yunel and McCann are carrying this team we need Jeff and Tex to step it up CONSISTANTLY!

By Renegator

May 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Those looking for an update on Hampton - here it is.

Hampton won’t pitch for the major league club at all this year.

Give it a rest - he ain’t coming back this year.

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Mr. Baseball, I know you are not the only one who says this, but I get so tired of hearing about how a manager leaves guys in for one too many batters. If they pull them before that batter you all say they pulled them too early. Example Monday with JJJ. He is a rookie, already pitched 5 innings, already gave 3 runs, plus plenty of baserunners and all of you, cant remember one other than me who didnt, complained cause Bobby pulled him too early.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

BC’s Do we really want Harden? Haven’t we already reached our injury prone starter quota in Hampton?

By mo

May 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Maybe the problem is that we are batting someone who has a career 780 OPS in the 5th or 6th spot most nights.

His power is suspect, 3 HR’s this year. 2 of which came in one game.

Guess who is the problem?

By Bob

May 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Dave, Do you think that the Braves lack of success in 1 run games is due to their inability to bunt? They are by far the worst bunting team I have ever seen. Seems incredible for a Bobby Cox coached team, but do they even practice bunting? Other teams seem to routinely bunt runners over; the Braves: hardly ever. Are there any stats on bunting?

By Jersey Gil

May 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Why everyone say that the Braves are bad in the road….Like Yogi said” it the other team that are good at home”

By Todd A

May 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Maddux? He turned down the Yankees. (Can anybody REALLY have seen Maddux in pin-stripes?). Maybe he came to Atlanta for Bobby. Maybe he just wanted to be paired up with the guy who won the Cy Young before him, and two of the most dominant pitchers (at that time) in the post-season, in Avery and Smoltz?

Agree *N8, Maddux didn’t have the stones to pitch in Pin Stripes. Maybe the best regular season pitcher in history, but very ordinary in the post season.

I know the Braves are hoping that Franceour turns into the next Dale Murphy, and the hometown hero is a nice angle (and certainly attracts a a large following to the games from Cobb county), but enough is enough. He either needs to learn the proper approach to the plate or Wren needs to start exploring trade possibilities before Jeff gets into his free agent year.

Are Frenchy, McCann, and Kelly Johnson really the type of guys that the Braves can depend on for being cornerstones of a championship lineup? The jury is still out somewhat, but I don’t think any of these guys should be considered untouchable after watching them for 3 years, hometown angle or not. McCann is a good hitter, but not a very good defensive catcher. Kelly Johnson is a streaky hitter who is very good when hot, awful when cold. When he makes an error, it usually costs the Braves a ballgame. Franceour? Talent isn’t the issue. Does anybody ever listen to Terry Pendleton? We don’t need another Andruw. Jeff either needs to learn plate discipline, or he needs to get to steppin’.

By MGL

May 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Since Glavine’s taking the hill today he should take charge of a pre-game player’s meeting. Goes something like this:

Alright guys, PINK Day is over with, time to man-up. I want a win tonight. I’m pitching seven with three hits no runs and one walk (bad calls obviously). You bullpen arms get together and decide who wants the eight and ninth and I expect three up and three down from both of you. The rest of you stay sharp in case anyone lets a runner on.

Now defense. Stay sharp, NO errors allowed. None of this double-clutch stuff, just grab the ball and throw it. McCann, no Passed Balls or you will be trying to pass my shoe from your inner cavity.

I want some consistant offense tonight!! Everyone on base at least two times. When I get up there to bunt, pay attention, I’ll show you how to do it so you wont miss the next time.

For the line-up:

Escobar - give me two hits and a walk. Throw in a steal on the first one.

Kotsay - two doubles and a walk dude.

Hoss - eat a bowl of Wheaties, I want another three hits, but not those flimsy singles. Gotta have at least one bomb and a double.

Tex - none of that creaky back stuff today. You’ve been at the feed trough long enough, time to get to work.

McCann - two doubles for you, and throw in a walk. If you ground into a double play, I’ll double you over after the game.

Frenchy - time for a couple of HR’s son. If you swing at a pitch in the left hand batter’s box or break another bat, you’ll be picking splinters out your a$$.

Kelly - Wake up boy, looks like you’re half asleep sometimes. If you don’t swing the bat, you can’t hit the ball. Time for a big one from you.

Blanco/Matty - Whoever goes first sits if you don’t get on base. And Matty, standup straight in the batter’s box, it looks like you are about to fall over backwards.

I’ll pick up the slack in the ninth spot.

Alright guys, let’s go git er dun!!

By bravesfan

May 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

DOB, I know you have got the lineup, what is it?

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

N8 the reason I dont blame Bobby for all the postseason failures, it isnt his fault Maddux and Glavine choked. He threw out his aces and unlike great HOF players are supposed to, they didnt produce. If people are going to say he had nothing to do with the Braves winning because he had the 3HOF pitchers in the rotation, then it should be the pitchers faults when they choked. Also I would never consider Millwood an ace. He was a very good pitcher and actually with his stats he may NOW be an ace but in the 90’s he was just a good pitcher. Neagle was also not in his prime anymore.

And when I was talking about managing superstars I meant the 90’s. Sorry, I should of been more clear.

Sorry when you talking about extensions I thought you were discussing anyone. Also may I point out, just because someone is drafted by the Braves, doesnt mean they wanted to be a Brave, just means they wanted to be MLB player.

By Todd A

May 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

I’m convinced that the Braves hitters simply don’t see enough pitches.

Gee, ya really think so? ;)

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Gotta agree with Jon. Who wants Harden? He cant stay healty.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

What was up with that Ryan Howard hit last night. We had the shift on and he pulled it right to KJ and he let it get by him. Was it just me or did anyone else think that Kelly should have been able to at least knock that ball down? His defense at 2B last night was pretty rough.

By brent a.

May 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

If Smoltz does come back as closer here in a couple of weeks, I really hope it has the effect of sparking the team’s pscyhe, and improving everyone’s performance.

One positive thing about having a great bullpen, or at least a great closer, is that it often seems to lend some confidence in the offense that if they can just get a lead, they’ve got a shutdown guy to finish the job.

Last year, before Gonzo got hurt, and Soriano got burned out, I think the team played that way. I remember watching us come back in May in a home game against Los Angeles, knowing that once we got the lead, Gonzo and Soriano would shut the door.

But further back, when we were actually a good team for whole season’s at a time, it seemed like the team played the 7th and 8th innings knowing that if it could just get a lead, or even tie it up, they’d have Smotlz to shut the door in the 9th, to either seal the win, or give them the chance to score the winning run in the bottom of the 9th.

Right now, while the bullpen has not been horrific, I still would say that there is no one out there that has been consistent enough, for a long enough stretch, for it to really spark the team.

Maybe I’m grasping at straws, but the thought of a Smoltz/Gonzalez/Soriano 7th/8th/9th is at least mildly exciting.

By Gregor Fan-co

May 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

DOB

What do you think of Mark Bowman talking about the possible return of Greg Maddux?

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Efrim. thanks

Those numbers are from baseball reference. you can check them out, then punch in KJ’s name in the search box at the top right.

Those are Prado’s career stats, which, like i said, is also a small sample size.

I totally agree that KJ is a great #7 hitter. I’ve been wanting him to hit there all year. That has been my main argument, and if he had been hitting there all year, i’d proably would be less harsh on the poor guy.

As much as i want a typical leadoff hitter on this team, i think escobar is a safe bet right now, and would compare him to jeter hitting leadoff for the yankees a few years back. He hit .515 leading off a game for the braves last year in 34 games and scored 13 times. By comparison, in 76 games, KJ hit .221/.303OBP and scored just 14 times leading off the game last year. This year, KJ’s just .111/.143 with 3 runs in 28 games.

Yesterday, escobar left off from last year. He got on, he scored. He didn’t fare too well the rest of the game, but it’s only one game and I’d like to see him get more starts leading off. Last year he hit .340 overall in the leadoff role (34 games) and .316 in the #2 spot (.312)

Leading off an inning last year he hit .364 with a .400 OBP, and hit .353/.404 with 0 out. This year leading off an inning he’s at .346/.370.

The only difference between last year’s Escobar stats and this years is that last year he hit better with 0 out(.372/.419) and 1 out(.311/.354) than with 2 out (.266/.370). This year he’s hitting better with 2 (.371/.488) out than with 1 (.304/.360) out and 0 out (.278/.350).

Regardless, the kid is a stud. If there’s one flaw in his game thus far, it’s late in the game. Both last year and this year he’s hit really well in innings 1-3 and 4-6, and pretty poor in innings 7-9. Since the numbers are parallel, I give you the career numbers: 1-3 (.385/.438), 4-6 (.338/.392), 7-9 (.223/.321).

Please though, check out the situational splits, innings, leverage, runners on, in wins, in losses, 0 out, 1 out, etc…for each player.

By Gregor Fan-co

May 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

DOB

What do you think of Mark Bowman talking about the possible return of Greg Maddux?

By Gregor Fan-co

May 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

DOB

What do you think of Mark Bowman talking about the possible return of Greg Maddux?

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Jon1

That’s the main drawback from Harden, but he’s only 26 and is one of the top 5 pitchers in the game when healthy.

I don’t blame most of you for being skeptical. Heck even i am. But i say take the risk and try to get one of Oaklands good relievers in the process.

By I'm Just Sayin'

May 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Go to the stats on espn and sort by right fielder (National League only). Look at that list and tell me who you would trade Francouer straight up for? I come up with Justin Upton, or maybe Hunter Pence.

By TennesseePaul

May 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

I keep seeing the Utley/Johnson comparisons. Maybe KJ improves that much and becomes that type of player. Maybe. But Chase isn’t a leadoff hitter so I’m not sure why this is ever brought up when discussing KJ in the leadoff spot.
2003 Utley spent 97% of his time in the bottom half of the order.
2004 Utley spent 70% of the time in the lower part of the order and 97% of the time NOT in the leadoff spot.
2005 Utley spent 100% of his time NOT in the leadoff spot.
2006 Utley spent 100% of his time NOT in the leadoff spot.
2007 Utley spent 100% of his time NOT in the leadoff spot.
2008 so far this season Utley has hit 3rd.
Utley hasn’t hit leadoff since 2004 and even then he only did it twice which appears to be the only two times he’s ever hit lead off.

I know. I’ve heard it before. KJ has on base skills so he should be the lead off hitter. Lots of guys have on base skills but that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be lead off hitters.
And even with KJ’s struggles I still wouldn’t play Prado over him. Due to Prado’s limited time in the majors I looked at his minor league numbers. Over his 1901 at bats he’s hit doubles at a lesser rate than KJ. Prado has a lower OBP and lower SLG. His redeeming quality, Prado appears to be more consistent than KJ. But he’s consistently less productive than KJ.

By Garla

May 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

I tell you what drives me nuts about Braves teams of the last couple years. That’s our inability to execute. Bunting is about wanting to. I don’t see many of our players wanting to. Back in the glory days of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz, this was never an issue. On would think that as many times as some of these guys have been back in forth to Richmond that this wouldn’t be an issue. Moving up runners is often the difference in losing or winning a game. In other words young pitchers, the difference in the league minimum or the minors and multi million dollar contracts and the majors. Pendleton can’t do it for them but if I were him I’d be embarrassed at these bunt attemps, moving runners, and scoring from third with less than 2 outs.

By Jon1

May 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Myers’ velocity has fallen way off on his fast ball. We should be able to knock him around some tonight.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

On pure stuff alone, you’d also probably have to rank Harden in the Top 5. He’s probably only available because of the injury history considering he should be at least two years away from free agency. The injury history concerns me too so I’m not sure how much more I’d tack onto Kelly to get him, but he’s an ace. Blanton also could be an option and the Pirates(Snell?) also need a 2B. Bonderman could also be dealt and I love his stuff. IMO, we definitely need another starter. Hampton can’t stay healthy, Smoltz is in the pen, and those two guys- as well as Glavine- will be free agents after the yeah. Oh, and they’re all really old. So I’m not only thinking for this year, but for the future as well.

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

When is Francoeur going to start hitting righthanders at more than a subpar level? He’s a beast versus lefties but his stats against righties are pretty woeful. If you combine Francoeur against lefties and Klesko against righties, you have a HOFer and if you combine Klesko against lefties with Francoeur against righties, you have a terrible ballplayer.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

DAP

Hardly. Curacao is dutch owned. Hence he speaks dutch. But it’s in the heart of latin america. He and his ancestors are of latin descent, not dutch.

By RC

May 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

TennPaul,

Good point about Utley not being used as a leadoff hitter. I think that KJ is a similar type of player, and assuming his development follows the path of most players, he could very well turn into a “poor man’s Utley”. 25 HR power, .290 avg, 10-15 SB, and a .380 OBP seem about right for him in his peak years. I would point out though that Utley was not used as a leadoff hitter because the Phillies have had Jimmy Rollins in that role since Utley was around. I’m sure if the Braves had a Rollins type on their team (like Furcal perhaps) then KJ would not be leading off. The problem is that the Braves have NO good options for leading off. I thought it was fine to go with KJ orginially, but I have come around to the thinking that Escobar at least deserves a chance in the role, and maybe Kelly can thrive as a run producer at the bottom of the order, where his speed is still an asset due to the #8 hitter and the pitcher hitting behind him.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Chuck(HOMERUN)James has given up at least one bomb in 14 of his last 15 starts.

YIKES ! In fact, he has allowed 22 home runs in that span with an ERA of 5.75. James has given up 56 long balls in 52 career starts. Every five innings somebody has taken him deep.

James ERA is currently at 7.58

What does it mean, you ask?

It tells me he isn’t fooling anybody. For a lefty who supposedly has an accomplished change up, it sure is strange that batters are sitting on his fastball and killing it.

Lew, do you understand now why I want him out of the rotation.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Jon1

In KJ’s defense this time, that ball wasn’t hit at him. KJ moved to his right and made a diving attempt at that bullet by Howard. It was a nice effort by KJ. Wish i could say that more often.

By Lew

May 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Brent a-whatever. Keep ignoring. I like you a lot better when you do. I promise I will never respond top anything you ever post. Apparently that will make you happy. Like I said. Whatever.

By THB

May 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Bobby’s Cox-Your arguments against KJ are pretty good, but your arguments for Prado are worthless. He has never played everyday for an extended period of time, let alone a full year in the majors. His stats are okay, but what makes you think he’ll hit twice as many doubles as KJ? Pure speculation? I mean, he really doesn’t have the gap power KJ has, or the eye, or the patience. KJ isn’t perfect, but he’s young, cheap, proven, and hell, he’s still good.

You think because we have two latin players, we should add Prado? Ummm, what? So we have Pena too, and he has pretty good minor league numbers, should he start too?

What makes you think Prado is so much better defensively than KJ? As I recall, Prado has made quite a few costly errors this year…

When it’s all said and done, KJ is an everyday player (And I agree, a #7 hitter at that), and Prado is a great benchplayer.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

brent a.

great post at 4:10…even if disagree about kobe. that conversation will resort to talking about mama’s too. congrats on that A paper.

By TennesseePaul

May 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

RC: I’m sure if the Braves had a Rollins type on their team (like Furcal perhaps) then KJ would not be leading off

Well, I’m not sure Rollins is a top standard leadoff guy. For more details on this research “Shaun Payne” and “Rollins is a pile of crap and should never have won an MVP”. A lot of that argument could be used in a debate on his leadoff abilities. However, The Braves do have Kotsay and Yunel. Kotsay has spent the majority of his time in the top two spots and Yunel has been solid in the top two spots as well. So that doesn’t really explain why KJ should be leading off this season…

By Efrim

May 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

I’m not sure I would call Kelly Johnson a #7 hitter…I mean can we really label him that for the rest of his career at this point? On this team, maybe for now….and hopefully not for long.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Looking ahead to July 13, 14, 15…

One of my favorite matchups this year will be against the Angels.

The angels go from 1st to 3rd better than any other team in baseball. With an angels runner on 1st, every basehit to RF will truly be exciting.

I’m gonna make the 30 minute drive up the 57 freeway to Anaheim. Any other bloggers gonna be at that series?

By Salty

May 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Since stats are everything: Chuckie’s undefeated at Citizen Bank. Chuckie’s undefeated vs. Phillies.

Hey, I jes’ reports ‘em!

By OrlandoFan

May 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Patients, folks. Give everyone a chance. Frenchy will hit homers. Tex will hit homers. KJ will hit, period. They’re talented and proven commodities, though KJ has more to prove as a leadoff hitter. If you want speed up there, put Blanco there. But don’t give up on anyone. Too early. The Braves, outside of Chipper (and guess Kotsay), are a very young team 1 through 8. So patience, please.

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

I’ve been a big Chuck James apologist. But Chuck has given up 19 home runs in his last 63.7 innings over 13 starts and has an ERA of 6.50. Goodness gracious, that is horrendous. And the dude is about to pitch tomorrow in homer friendly Philly. Sorry, Chuck, love ya, man, but I’m gonna be ducking for cover down here in Athens everytime you toss a ball tomorrow up in Philly.

By THB

May 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

FloridaBrave-Bonderman is a risk, would only take him for cheap. Same goes for Harden, wouldn’t give up any top prospects for him since it’s definetely a gamble. Bonderman might be a better idea because he doesn’t have the history of injuries as Harden.

On a side note, I’m completely against Chipper batting 4th. Don’t you all remember a few years ago when we put him there and he was all uncomfortable and constantly talked of how he didn’t like it there? Cmon guys, if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. Only fix what needs to be fixed. Stick Kotsay at leadoff, and KJ at 7th. That should suffice.

By BossLady

May 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

MGL — Fantastic Post and he should do just that.

By DAP

May 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

bobby’s cox my ancestors are english and scotch-irish. but, im not english or scotch irish. i was born and raised in the US, so im an american.

jurjens is dutch.

By MGL

May 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

I like the Yunel/Kotsay 1&2 combo. Blanco/Kotsay would be ok with me also as Blanco takes a lot of pitches.

Kotsay just seems to be a professional hitter, almost always looks comfortable at the plate like Chipper and Edgar.

By monty

May 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

TODD A. Forgive me for stating the obvious,I’m sure every comment you make is a breath of fresh air, that you and only you alone are wise enogh to discern.

By JT

May 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

coach..im with you…WHY in the world is Chuck James starting tomorrows game??…why?…Bobby has more confidence in him than Resop in a BLOWOUT Game…Chucks 7.58 ERA…i would even prefer Carlyle…ANYONE but Chuck in that little league park…Bobby is playing with fire.. A BIG Fire…WHY Bobby Why????

By JEB

May 14, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Ok! MGL should be coach!

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Bonderman is as risky as Harden. Bonderman has awesome stuff but his problem is damage control. It seems when thing go south, he can’t stop the fire from spreading and he has a really bad inning. But I think with the move to the NL, he’d become a legit 3rd starter. With his contract and inconsistency this year, he might be the cheapest of the bunch and he could use a change of scenery.

I also agree with you, THB, about Prado yet I still support trading Kelly and starting him. Kelly’s one of our most attractive trade pieces who we can afford to deal- good offense for a 2B, young, and cheap. We can afford a lineup without Kelly. What we can’t afford is a starting rotation of Hudson, Jurrjens, Glavine, Reyes, and James. I absolutely don’t expect Prado to hit .300. In fact, I think .275/.330/.385 is much more likely but we can live with that, considering his speed, situational hitting prowess, and defense if our staff is bolstered. Our staff needs a compliment to Hudson, not just for this year, but for the future. And using Kelly as the main piece might be the best way to do so.

By Richie

May 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Chase, I know you like Yunel hitting third, which would be good if Tex were going already, but since he isn’t, I would still like him in the 5 slot at least until McCann got going and then Francoeur and KJ. I think Kelly thinks TOO much at the plate, he needs to just let it fly. While Francoeur needs to do the opposite, and think more. To be honest, i would be happy with Francoeur giving us 15 - 25 homers and 300+ average than to see him hitting .260 and trying to swing for the fences all the time

By JEB

May 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

MGL great post at 4:30 pm! I wonder if anyone does talk like that to the players anymore?

By mr baseball

May 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Salty:

How dare you contradict the all-knowing, all-seeing Coach with something as flimsy as the facts? That is simply not allowed and you deserve to be harshly reprimanded. One more such outburst and it’s double secret probation for you.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Hey Salty, you are W-R-O-N-G.

Chuck James in his last two starts at Citizens Bank ballpark :

9.2 innings, 8 earned runs, 4 home runs and the Braves lost his Aug 10th 2007 start.

But hey, thanks for playing.

By MGL

May 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Boss Lady and JEB, It seems like someone needs to take charge among the players but I doubt it happens.

By GSU

May 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

DAP:

that is the most ridiculous rationale I have ever heard. That is like saying that people in India were British when that was a British colony.

By Salty

May 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

OK…uh, will sorry work, mr. baseball? I’m just a novice fan…what everyone else knows is good enough for me!

Then again…tell me ‘bout that ‘double secret probation’ thingie…could be worth it, ya know?!? LOL!

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Tex is in the cage now taking BP as I write this. Watching him hit from both sides, looks fine. I talked to him this afternoon after he’d done some early hitting indoors, said he felt good. Wanted to test it on field, running and hitting, etc, before deciding whether to play.

He’s not in the lineup, but that doesn’t mean anything. If he’s ready, they’ll alter the lineup and he’ll be in there. We’ll know soon….

Smoltz felt “very good” throwing from 90 feet. Will throw from 120 feet tomorrow, then plans on real tests — off mound Saturday and Sunday in Atlanta, and if that goes well, he’ll probably do a short rehab stint next week.

He could be back with Braves within 10 days or so, depending how rehab games go and how many he thinks he needs.

By Salty

May 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Uh, coach…pardon me, Sir! Why don’t you read my damn post!!!

Let me repeat: Chuckie’s undefeated @ Citizen Bank Park

Chuckie’s undefeated vs. Philly!

I didn’t say word one about the Braves. In fact, I didn’t try to give the stats real credibility…I just ‘stated them’, without further comment.

Instead of trying to impress folks with your dim-witted brilliance, why don’t you humor us and give your self a crack at credibility by reading what others have to say. Oh, that’s right…we’re all ‘knuckle-dragging blokes’. Congratulations…I’ve posted off and on for a while…you’re the first ‘person’ (?) I’ve ever actually gotten pi$$ed at.

Memo to self: use scroll wheel.

By bravesfan

May 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Teixeira is not in the lineup.

By Todd A

May 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Monty, I’m a bastion of information, and wise well beyond my years. Just ask Wayne. He’ll tell ya.:)

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

TEX IS IN LINEUP. They just changed it after he took BP and gave Cox the thumbs-up.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Chuck James seems to have lost something from his fastball. His unwillingness/inability to learn a third pitch and studying the reports of opposing batters can also be looked at when wondering why he hasn’t performed lately. But this is no secret.

But, down the road, why not move Chuck to the pen and use him as a lefty specialist? Hopefully the stats back this up but Chuck is very tough on lefties and he can get away with his two pitches in the bullpen.I mean right now, we have Ring and Ohman and we also have Gonzo back so there’s not an immediate need, but down the road it could be an option. I think Chuck James can still benefit this club in that capacity.

By OrlandoFan

May 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Good news on Tex and Smoltzie

By StingerSplash

May 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

I wonder how much these close losses also are a result of having to use the bullpen so much. You ask three or four or more innings out of the pen, sooner or later, small fissures and cracks turn to leaks and into floods. As much as I admire and appreciate what Greg Maddux has done and continues to do, another pitcher who is a 6-inning guy — at best — is not what the Braves starting staff needs (he is averaging right at 6 innings and start and three starts of seven innings, no more, no less. One of those starts was the 9-run outing he had to endure after the marathon game the night before leading to the classic Maddux quote, “Some days you just have to eat it.”) He averaged less than 6 innings a start last year. You have Jurrjens, who has been very good but has never thrown more than 160-plus innings; Glavine, who is over 40; Smoltz, who ain’t gonna start no more; James and Reyes - the modern day version of Question Mark and the Mysterians. Hudson’s a front of the rotation guy, no doubt. But it’d be nice to have another guaranteed 7-inning guy right behind him.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

For the record, Chuck James has three career starts in Philly. He is 2-0, the Braves are 2-1.

His line: 14.2 innings, 9 earned runs, 4 home runs, 5.52 ERA

Thanks to Salty, we know all know what to expect tomorrow night.

By albanian braves fan

May 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

is reading: “smoltz felt ‘very good’ throwing from 90 feet. will throw from 120 feet tomorrow.”

is meaning in ten days smoltz can throw from centerfield fence to home plate. is strong like bull. no?

By 3Pitch

May 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

I wonder what the stats were in one run games when we had Furcal leading off. He gave us speed at the top of the line-up, and we had better ability to manufacture runs.

Also, I wonder about Gregor Blanco leading off, at least against RH pitchers. He hit in the lead-off spot at Richmond. Why not in Atlanta? He has excellent speed, and he gets on base often enough to make his presence felt. Oh, and he can bunt for a hit when things are not going well.

By Unlucky Charms

May 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Anything to the Greg Maddux back to Atlanta rumors? Maddux is old, but I’d like to see one last run.

By eric the elder

May 14, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

If on August 1 we are 16.5 games out, I would favor bringing Maddux back for a Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz farewell tour.

Hundreds of people might attend games, and maybe Bobby would take the hint.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Hi my post name is COACH

And I want to let you know that if you post something on here that isn’t absolutely, completely clear and written in small words so that even I can understand — then your comments will be misconstrued, re-edited, and partially quoted by me so as to make myself feel superior but ultimately make me look like the petty, childish buffoon that I am.

Just FYI.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Maddux makes a lot of sense. The Braves need pitching behind this year and with Maddux’s his age he may only be a half-year rental. But I like how we could probably get him without giving up any of our top prospects.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

At any rate, here is to hoping that Tom Glavine can deliver us from the arms of defeat tonight. Go Braves !

By Eric from MO

May 14, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

To all the people who say we cant handle another 6 inning pitcher, let me point out that the Cardinals won 2 years ago with 5 inning pitchers like Jeff Suppan, Jeff Weaver, and Anthony Reyes. They are doing it again this year with five inning pitchers. The game has changed. I prefer it when pitchers went at least 7 but the game has changed.

By jerry

May 14, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

How to win one run games:

G.R.I.T.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 14, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Thanks as always for your insights, DOB.

So what it looks like we have is a team that’s built around the long ball and is in a severe power outage (with the exceptions of Chipper and Heap).

Obviously, Tex needs to heat up. KJ and Frenchy too. If you’re lacking HR power in all three OF positions, you have to either have to generate a lot of doubles and triples from the OF or have an IF full of big boppers.

I’d hate to think Kotsay would be the biggest power threat in the Braves’ OF … and if so that the team could reasonably expect to win anything.

By Salty

May 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Thanks to Salty, we know all know what to expect tomorrow night. ???? That’s just over my head!

Capt. Cavemen Your 6:36….thanks! Even if you are a dawg, you’re an original, too! LOL!

By Lew

May 14, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Coach-Yes, I understand why you want him out of the rotation. I just disagree with you. He has an uncanny record of the Braves winning his starts despite his proclivity to give up Home Runs. The Braves just win his starts way out of proportion to his foibles. I can’t explain it, but that’s just the way it is.

By The BLOG TROLL

May 14, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

I rule with fascist zeal ! Running my blog by fooling the many idiotic children in here into believing I have some sort of credibility.

What a hoot. Yea right !

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Chuck’s problem obviously is that he is giving up too many flyballs which lead to homers. The average pitcher can expect to give up a homer on 10% of flyballs given up. Chuck has given up a homer on 11% of his flyballs.

Being a flyball pitcher helps him give up less hits because he gives up less groundballs and less line drives. The line drives also tend to be less viciously hit when flyball pitchers give them up. Thus, why his overall AVG and OBP against is lower than the average pitcher.

With the groundballs he gives up, his AVG, OBP, and SLG are right in line with average pitchers. With the line drives he gives up, he is actually much better than the average pitcher in terms of AVG, OBP, and SLG against. And as to the flyballs he gives up, his AVG, OBP, and SLG against is still not any worse or not any better than the average AVG, OBP and SLG for the average pitcher on a flyball. He just really needs to find a way to cut down on the damn flyballs. Easier said than done.

Before you fall completely in love with Thomas Hanson, you need a little bit of a reality check if you also hate Chuck James. Statistically, Hanson fits the profile of Chuck James. A flyball pitcher who dominates in the minors but who may not do as well in the majors because all of those flyballs he gives up in the minors that usually end up as putouts and rarely end up as homers, will probably end up being homers 10% of the time in the majors just like 10% of all flyballs end up as homers in the majors. Heck, one of the reasons Hanson had a 4.20 ERA in Myrtle Beach last year was because he gave up a home run on 10% of flyballs.

Hanson had the same flyball rate at Myrtle Beach this year that Chuck James did with the Braves in 2007. Hanson gave up no homers over in Myrtle Beach this year despite giving up even more flyballs than he did last year. Expect something Chuck and Duck Jamesian from Hanson if and when he gets called up. Chuck was, BTW, even more dominant at Myrtle Beach than Hanson was.

If you want Chuck James traded, don’t be upset if the Braves take your advice and use Hanson as trade bait with some team that has not digged down deep enough to see the Chuck James’ similarities in the minor league stats. Or if you like Chuck James, appreciate that another Chuck James may be on the way.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Yunel….

2-2 leading off game in last 2 days with 2 runs. That KJ move was well overdue.

By Lew

May 14, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Coach-The Braves record in Chuck’s starts since he came up is 30-22. Now no one is going to try and claim that Chuck is the second coming of Sandy Koufax or even that he’ll ever be a top of the rotation guy. However, that’s not too shabby a team record for a number five guy’s starts.

He does need to work on aspects of his game and that includes learning an out pitch and keeping the ball down, but the fact is that the Braves tend to win when he pitches.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Like I said, not much power …

Someone should tell Myers the game started.

By JEB

May 14, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

MGL at least Yunel & Chipper listened to you! No Single for Chipper there!!

By ncgary

May 14, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

would love to see maddux come back to atlanta as the second player in the peavey trade,

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Just because their flyball ratio is similar doesn’t mean their similar pitches. Hanson throws harder and has more pitches. Most strikeout pitchers are flyball pitchers. James is just a flyball pitcher.

Hanson’s tall. James is short. Hanson’s a righty, James a lefty. Hanson throws hard, James throws soft. Hanson has good stuff. James has mediocre stuff.

I don’t see the comparison.

By beachcomber

May 14, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

Jon 1 - just getting on the blog. Agree with your 4:38. Very catchable ground ball. Was the turning point of the game.

As I am fond of saying, Lemke would have had it.

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Chipper and Yunel beating Myers like Myers beat his wife.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

The Braves live and Die by the Sword. Right now, the Phillies are bleeding.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Not much power … LOL

Look at it this way, DOB. This may be a time you don’t mind being “overtaken by events.”

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2008/05/14/lateinningsha.html#comment-62709903 Link to this

By BravesFanInRockies

May 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

KJ … when it rains it pours!

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Jeez, quite the display of power today. Some great swings put on the ball today by Yuni, Chip, and KJ. Let’s keep it up…

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

At least we know O’Brien has a sense of humor….right?

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

FloridaBrave

Nnice posts all day long. We do think alike.

So far i’m liking the lineup changes a few of us were crying for. KJ killin’ it in the 7 hole again.

By Savannah Guy

May 14, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

“By that I mean, some of them are perhaps expecting something bad to happen, rather than playing smart, aggressive baseball and making sure something bad doesn’t happen.” DOB

DOB, I especially liked your lead today. Many good and pertinent points made. I’ve pulled a quote from your story to expand on the idea a bit further. I think your line above may just touch on the essence of current and woeful Braves struggles.

The Braves are obviously plagued with pitcher injuries right now and it would be natural to begin waiting for the ‘other shoe to drop’ and such, but pitching and paranoia are not the problem, at least not so far and not at the moment. Here’s the thing; playing to “make sure something bad doesn’t happen” or playing ‘not to lose’ are two ways of describing the single biggest problem stifling the Braves right now in my opinion. Playing not to lose is not a winning strategy.

‘Gun shy’ has a terrible batting average.

Call it ‘the little things’ or ‘small ball’… not being able to lay down a bunt and not being able to put the ball in play to a part of the field that allows runners to advance or score is not just bad luck when it happens over and over again, it’s a lack of fundamental execution or a lack of adequate practice or both.

Adding to the frustrating dilemma, our lack of clutch hitting is killing us. We’ve had the hits and the base runners but we seem to leave the ducks on the pond. We must be leading the NL in stranding. We’ve stranded so many runners we’re starting to resemble a non-profit wildlife organization… Ducks Unlimited.

I’ve no clue about why we can’t get the consistent clutch hit, other than to guess that the same fear of failure, trying ‘not to lose’ or ‘out-avoidance’ (yikes, did I just say that?) causing many of our batters to be mentally and physically ‘bound up’. Fear may run well but has never been able to clutch hit.

The Braves players seem to repeatedly make the same fundamental mistakes. Having a manager and/or a hitting coach that haven’t demonstrated successful teaching or enforcement of plate discipline is becoming obvious even to the casual fan.

Our batters are consistently erring in their decisions at the plate. Is that the fault of Pendleton? The signs given by Snitker? The advice and bench council of Cadahia? The directions given by Cox? The support given by Wren or Liberty management?

No… franchise financial stability with team ownership uncertainty the last few years and a middle of the pack roster budget can’t be blamed for poor fundamentals or lack of execution. So what’s the problem? It’s not the economy… it’s not the talented players… Cox is a HOF manager whose abilities and contributions have been enormous, but his best years are behind him and our present difficulties and less than stellar coaches are a result of his leadership, or lack thereof.

Great players that are nice and good guys don’t necessarily make good coaches, particularly if they don’t have formal coach training, adequate experience and a natural capability to mentor, instruct and motivate. Great managers don’t manage well forever. Sad but true… and such is life in the Bigs.

Whatever the case and no matter the obstacles, these are my Braves and I’ll pull for them no matter what. Oh, and I’ll be even happier when they start winning.

By albanian braves fan

May 14, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

myers having “chuck james” disease?

doctor in house?

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

Just because their flyball ratio is similar doesn’t mean their similar pitches. Hanson throws harder and has more pitches. Most strikeout pitchers are flyball pitchers. James is just a flyball pitcher. Hanson’s tall. James is short. Hanson’s a righty, James a lefty. Hanson throws hard, James throws soft. Hanson has good stuff. James has mediocre stuff. I don’t see the comparison.

You don’t want to see it because you hate Chuck. James actually struck out as many batters as Hanson in the minors at similar levels. They have similar flyball rates which will likely result in similar home run per flyball rates in the majors. What’s left? Oh yeah, walks and BABIP. Pitchers don’t have control over their Babip. They will therefore likely give up the same number of hits when they are not striking batters out and giving up home runs on flyballs at similar rates. Chuck actually walked less batters at similar levels than Hanson. What you’re left with then is different styles of pitchers with similar results except that Hanson walks more batters.

By ncgary

May 14, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

we havent had a 400 hitter this late in a braves season since the roadrunner did it in 71 ralph garr and hank aaron and 7 sure outs

By N8

May 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

That was one helluva a “present” by Pat Burell out in LF when that ball lodged under the base of the wall. Maybe he missed his true calling.

For those of you with daughters (or sons) that have been in gymnastics, you’ll get it and appreciate it.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Chipper is a freak of nature.

Listen to Kruk:

“he’s not swinging hard, not tyring to do too much with it….yada yada yada”

if i’m his teammate, i’m picking his brain & watching video.

By radoncbravesfan

May 14, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

McCann bailed out Tex there.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Ol’ grind-it-out Pat Burrell, adding to his reputation as a hard-scrabble throwback player (he says, raising eyebrows).

Gimme a break with that reaction to the ball that stopped at the fence. Reach over and pick it up.

By the way, the denizens are booing lustily here at the bank ballpark.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

MGL

Did you throw that clubhouse meeting on Glavine’s behalf? Geesus…these guys are doing exactly what you posted escept for Frenchy and Tex.

McFann There you go. McCann 2 run double with RISP and 2 out. Elevator going up!

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

That was a very smart play by Pat Burrell. Initially, it saved one run. Except that McCann drove both runners in with his double.

By McFann

May 14, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

.250!!!

OK, so the elevator went above and beyond the call of duty, but heck, the higher the better!!

THose three homers were great, too! Good lineup tonight.

Haven’t looked over the blog yet, just got home from Taco Bell, Costco., and Target.

Saw the white-headed Chickadee again. (And a Red-Headed Woodpecker!)

Later!

By Jeff321

May 14, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Its time to shuffle this lineup a little more! I think the Braves need to switch Tex and McCann in the lineup. Oh and Jeff Francoeur needs to ride the pine a little while.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Stats are only a tool used to evaluate minor league talent. If you’re going to completely evaluate and compare young talent based on stats, then yeah I can see where you’re coming from.

I don’t hate Chuck James. But I think his development has stalled because he won’t learn a third pitch and he won’t take his craft more seriously. Both things he should do considering he has mediocre stuff.

I’m not going to pretend I’m a Braves minor league scout, but from the bit I’ve seen Hanson’s got fantastic stuff and a broader repertoire of pitches which gives him a much greater upside than Chuck James. Only time will tell, of course, Hanson’s years away from reaching his potential…

By BravesFanInRockies

May 14, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

Myers sure is filling up the scorecard. 3 IP; 5 H; 5 R; 3 HR: 2 BB: 5 K

By William

May 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

I’m not seeing any reason to pay Tex the kind of money that he and his agent are going to be looking for. It’s mid May. Time to get over “I’m always a slow starter” mentality.

By Matt

May 14, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Great start, hopefully we can get Tommy his first win tonight.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Braveheart

If James had a 3rd pitch, he’d probably be just as effective as he was in the minors.

Hanson is a different pitcher. The only worrisome thing about Hanson is the BB rate. But if he learns better control, like Jo Jo, and Morton, and most of our pitching prospects are tyring to do, he’ll be more effective than James, guaranteed.

James still can’t “hit spots” at times. What did he say after his last start? Something like “It’s a matter of hitting spots, and I didn’t do that.”

I still think James would be better out of the pen. He’s usually great the 1st time through the order, so why not let him pitch the 6th and 7th when our starters only go 5, setting us up for the 8th inning setup guy (Soriano/Gonzo) then the closer Smoltz when they’re all ready?

By Matt

May 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

KJ is lookin good tonight. Way to shake off that brushback.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

I used to love Brett Myers’ stuff and thought he’d settle in as a solid 2nd-3rd starter. But the guy’s a head case,he’s lost about 3-5 mph off his fastball, and he can’t command his secondary pitches. Too bad for the Phils, good for us…

By William

May 14, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

I hope we don’t settle for these 5 runs. Especially in this little league park.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

Right now, Randy Myers is doing what Chuck James will do tomorrow night.

It really stinks. Knowing the Braves have very little chance of winning this three game set.

By McFann

May 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Yep, B’s C. The elevator is at a much more respectable floor than it was back when it took off so many weeks ago. It was at about .170 then.

By JerseyGil

May 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

5 Run but 8 lob….outhhhhh

By eric the elder

May 14, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

I observed this a couple of weeks ago - - hope it bears repeating.

When Yunel has a runner on third, he seems determined to pull rather than go with his best swing to right and right center.

By not going with the pitch, he tends to roll over, and GIDP numbers go up. I like him leading off, though.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

Chipper looks comparable to Derek Lee, Bonds, and Pujuols a few years back. Pitchers would try to pitch around them, but any strike they saw would get pounded.

Chipper actually looks better than all 3 were in their grooves and pitchers aren’t pitching around him because Tex is hitting 4th. He’s hitting ball foul pole to foul pole. He’s not trying to crush it. He’s taking what the pitchers give him and putting it where guys aren’t positioned.

Forget .400. Maybe he’ll hit .500. Total exaggeration, but that’s how good he looks right now.

By Matt

May 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

Nice catch by Frenchy!

By TJ

May 14, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Braveheart, there are plenty of successful major leaguers who are “fly ball” pitchers (Dice-K, Santana, Maine, Arroyo, Cain, etc). It’s a stretch to say that just because Hanson is a fly ball pitcher that he’s another Chuck James.

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Right now, Randy Myers is doing what Chuck James will do tomorrow night.

Randy Myers retired 10 years ago.

By Savannah Guy

May 14, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

Notice I single handedly removed the Braves jinx with my last critical post? Tonight they will be managed brilliantly, they’ll not leave runners on base and they’ll put on a clinic executing the fundamentals.

Critique right before a game. That’ll do it every time…

By Gamecock Brave

May 14, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

DOB good call. B** move by Pat on that play. Good thing Brian came through.

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

LOL ! Brett Myers. Woops, my bad. better redact that one O’Brien.

By William

May 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Chipper is amazing right now. If Tex doesn’t start doing something they are going to stop pitching to him. I mean, why would you????

By MiamiBrave

May 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

anyone mention Glavine can still pitch?

he’s been great all season with the exception of the start against Cincy.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Myers didn’t want none of Chipper in that 3rd plate appearance.

By McFann

May 14, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Good night for the elevator! Up to .267!

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

Way to go Chipper ! keeping the Braves out of the double play by stopping and giving Teixeira time to reach first base safely.

Night night Brett(Randy)Myers. 6-0 Braves

By rotomeister

May 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Chipper passed Will Clark in hits tonight and is now 171 on the career hits list. I did some research to compare the two.

Here are some of my findings. Will Clark only played 14 seasons 1986 to 2000. Chipper was a rookie in 1995 (missed 1994 due to knee blowout)so he is now in his 14th season.

During his career Clark had 7173 ABs but his last three seasons were as a part time player posting a max of 256 ABs those three years despite hitting over .300 each of those years. Chipper had 7040 at bats going into tonights action.

Of Clark’s hits only 282 were HR and Chipper already has 397. Clark surpassed 20 HR 5 times and 30HR 1 time — his second season. He only passed 100 RBI four times. His career OBP was .384.

Chipper has surpassed 20 HR 13 times - he has NEVER hit fewer than 20 even when he missed significant time due to injury. He has hit at least 30 HR six times. He exceeded 100 RBI 9 times already. And his career OBP is .405

There was a distinct fall off for Clark after five huge years 1987-1991. Only twice after that did he surpass 90 RBI. Chipper has about the same number of at bats and seasons, but is still going strong and hoping to play 4 more years.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

MiamiBrave, you can bet you’ll get some argument from a few creative “Tommy Traitor” folks. You know, they’ll say he’s 0-1 so he mustn’t be pitching too well, something astute like that.

By bgvt

May 14, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Jersey Gil —

It makes more sense to look at the Team LOB rather than the sum of the individual LOB’s. Team LOB: 2 through 4 innings. Individual LOB can be high but if someone picks up someone else (e.g., McCann’s double after Tex’s out), then it washes out.

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

McFann

He is really coming through in the clutch lately. Now if he can get the “caught stealing” % up.

PS Thank you for speaking with him about his pants. They look much better! 8)

By radoncbravesfan

May 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Great at bat by Blanco

By Risingstar

May 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

What a turn by Gregor, 10 pitches, yes 10 pitches, I think jeff has seen 5 on 3 turns, that’s plate discipline

By Coach (Braves in 2008 to the playoffs)

May 14, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

8-0 Braves, thats the ballgame. Nighty night Phillies.

By Jeff321

May 14, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Excellent at bat by Blanco! I wonder why some of the other Braves can’t manage that…

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Glavine’s struck out four of the last five batters, after striking out none in the first three innings.

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Risingstar I agree with you on Blanco. If you get 2 strikes on him, you are going to have to put another one in the strike zone to get him out. He has a great idea of where the strike zone is.

By ernesto

May 14, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Someone call the DEA, Tommy’s dealing.

By TennesseePaul

May 14, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

It really stinks. Knowing the Braves have very little chance of winning this three game set

Is this how you fire up your little league team?

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

NONONO Coach NONONO

You sir, will now receive your own medicine.

Randy?? Brett? Randy?? Brett??

You obviously do not know what you are talking about.

Nice try with the cover-up. OOPS my as$!!

You have now been exposed as small and insignificant. And yes that has a double meaning.

Randy Myers?? What an idiot you are. Talking about a guy from last CENTURY.

Don’t deny it. Don’t try to “oops, I goofed”. You wont accept that from ANY other poster here so we will not accept it from you. Blatantly wrong SIR!! Absolutely incorrect. They don’t even share the same team at this point. These are the PHILLIES and Randy NEVER played for the Phillies.

You are nothing but a boob and a self-righteous jag-off who has nothing to say but recycled stats from other peoples minds.

How does it feel knowing that the entire BLOG laughs at you and your supposed “expertise”?

I await your next post to see what more of a fool you can make of yourself.

And don’t worry about trying to ignore me, that is just your status qou ( that means what you normally do - stupid) when faced with an opponent of superior knowledge and more significant BALLS !!!

By La Jolla Dawg

May 14, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

DOB, are you familiar with Across A Crowded Room? That’s my personal favorite Richard Thompson record. I am particularly fond of When the Spell is Broken—great song. I believe he wrote the album right after he and Linda Thompson broke up.

I grew up in Richmond and am wondering if the Braves organization is going to do anything special to acknowledge the 40+ years in that city. I don’t live there anymore (obviously) but I think it would be very cool if some of the former Braves made appearances in the ballpark this summer. Personally, I saw Dale Murphy, Brett Butler, Ken Daley, Steve Bedrosian and yes (drum roll please) Brad Komminsk play. My favorite all time R-Brave: Chico Ruiz.

By Risingstar

May 14, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

“Lose an Andruw, gain an Andruw” that’s short better start saying “Lose an Andruw, gain two Andruws” with the way Tex and Frenchy are batting, if we can said to that batting.

By JerseyGil

May 14, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

bgvt…my point is those are the run we need later in the game…team like the Phillis….this game should be 12-0…Tex 5 lob thru 6th..Frenchy 3 lob

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

WOW COACH

8-0 !! And you just called it a win!! After the 6th inning.

Did you many years of coaching expertise teach you that??

UH-OH , they just got 2 runs. Are you sure??

Hey, I want them to win but I’m not going to jinx them. You know, like a REAL coach would know not to say that.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Pen time, Bobby…

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

8-4

Way to go COACH !!!

Jag-Off!!

By JerseyGil

May 14, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

got my point know…4 rum in the blink..

By StingerSplash

May 14, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Five sparkling innings for Glavine. One really crappy inning for Glavine. Eight isn’t enough in this ballpark and against this team. Gotta get some more runs in the last three frames.

By McFann

May 14, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

keylargo—

Yeah, the caught stealing % needs to rise. Perhaps that should be the next elevator.

Oh, and no prob. Glad that problem got solved. 8 )

By Matt

May 14, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Starting to get nervous…

By StingerSplash

May 14, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Four in. Two on now against Bennett. Everything I have to write/say now is definitely NSFB.

By T

May 14, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

Glavine pitched well for the first 5 innings, but the wheels fell off in the 6th. That’s twice Glavine has received 7 runs or more and he can’t put together a “quality start”. (6 IP, 3 ER or less) That is ridiculous! C’mon TG do your part.

By TJ

May 14, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Rays have locked up Kazmir, 4 years, $28+ mil; I was hoping that Thorman for Kazmir deal would happen, but now the salaries don’t work. Oh well.

boy, when Tommy loses it, he loses is fast, doesn’t he?

By KC

May 14, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

I hope the Braves can hold on here and avoid the sweep… because tomorrow’s contest (James vs. Hamels) probably isn’t going to end well.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

If you guys haven’t seen it yet, wait till you see the play Manny made today.

At Baltimore, he makes a running catch near the warning track, then takes a step up the wall and slaps hands with a fan, before he wheels and throws to the cutoff man, who throws to first to double-up the runner. Ended the inning.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

If Braves hold on to win this, Glavine will be 5-1 with a 3.40 ERA in 10 starts against the Phillies since the beginning of the 2006 season.

By Braveheart

May 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Caveman, if I understand this right, you’re not too fond of Coach are ya? LOL!

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Re: James vs. Hamels

Bookies all over America are salivating over the “sure thing” bet like that. It seems like it goes more to the underdog the “surer” it gets.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

As of right now, Chipper has 14 extra-base hits (seven homers) and 18 RBI in his past 14 games against the Phillies.

By beachcomber

May 14, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

I am as critical of Bobby Cox as ohters but a tip of the cap for his managing the bullpen in the 7th.

He could have brought in Ring to pitch to Jenkins but Bobby opted for Ohman knowing that Manual might pull Jenkins and Ring is a one trick pony where Ohman can get rightys out as well.

Good job BC.

By bravesfan

May 14, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

FYI:Andruw is 2 for 3 tonight, batting second.

By FloridaBrave

May 14, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

You would hope with an 8 run lead your starter can go deep into the game. Ho hum…another game we burn through our entire bullpen.

By 22oz

May 14, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Well, that almost worked. Good thing they didn’t stop with 3, or 5 runs.

By Jeff321

May 14, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

If anyone wants to check out that video of Manny.. http://tinyurl.com/4lre9t

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

Easy there clone. What do you think this is the Jim Rome show?

Wasn’t it Coach that 1st said to get Norton from seattle? I haven’t seen you propose anything worth a grain of sh!t on here ever.

You are nothing but a boob and a self-righteous jag-off who has nothing to say but recycled stats from other peoples minds

Funny cause reading all of your posts, all you do is rag on others.

I don’t agree with everything Coach says, but i’d be damned if you or anyone else put a man down like that beyond the use of scarcasm just to get a reaction.

Grow up kiddo. Oh i forgot, since you’re still using “dawg” like it’s still the 90’s, i guess you haven’t yet.

By T

May 14, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Is it my imagination or is Jeff Francouer swinging at everything? He doesn’t bother waiting for a strike… Even the balls he makes contact with are out of the strike zone. The opponents pitchers are smart, why would you throw him a strike? We said the same thing about Andrew Jones two years ago. Just a thought.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

So, if the Braves wind up winning this one by only one run, is that a good thing?

By Robin

May 14, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Is it cool to hope the Phils score 2 so we can win a one-run game?

runs

By Tex Will Hit

May 14, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

But when?

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

that was a helluva 1st pitch curve to Coste by Boyer. That thing had jerking action.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

So, if the Braves wind up winning this one by only one run, is that a good thing?

Absolutely not. Not after being up 8-0. Shut them down and get ready for tomorrow.

Things are getting shaky. Phils have tying run batting with 2 out.

By Robin

May 14, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

C’mon Blaine! Fer cryin’ out loud!!

By Savannah Guy

May 14, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Man, Frenchy is struggling. The anklebone connects to the thighbone, the thighbone… eventually connecting with the head bone and such. He needs to sit out a few games. Right now he’s playing through an ankle problem with what I’ll assume is his intention of being a good example, helping the team or continue his personal march to an improbable, overrated iron man accomplishment.

While such fortitude and playing through pain may be commendable in many circumstances, it’s not advisable now. More potential downside than upside.

Francouer’s intentions are probably the best, but his determination to not sit out a game or two is not helpful. His old ankle injury that’s become aggravated is exacerbated by his extra weight and refusal to rest a few days. He’s obviously lost foot speed and quick turning ability, as he’s not currently quick or agile enough to cutoff outfield singles that he used to get to. Those singles that get by him have turned into doubles and the doubles have been turning into runs.

I’m really not getting down on Frenchy here. Cox is to blame for this situation. Competitive is commendable, unless it’s hurting the team, particularly when we have several highly capable players that could fill in while he takes a day or three off.

A few days off the ankle would probably help his hitting approach as well, because he’s not consistently getting it done with the bat right now. That, and less than stellar pitchers like Brett Myers won’t think they “own him”.

In Francouer’s defense, he’s probably just trying to help the team and be an old school tough guy… but playing through injury winds up being selfish and hurts the team… possibly even injuring his ankle, knee, hip or back when he favors that leg. Anybody that’s watched Frenchy play the last few years can see how he’s slowed right now.

Evidently Cox can’t see it or more likely just doesn’t want to pull the kid and spoil his consecutive game streak. Neither choice is good for Jeff or the team. Cox is making a mistake letting him go on without a rest for the ankle. What’s really at stake here anyway?

By JUsto

May 14, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

im crying right now this sucks, we are going to lose

By Steve from OH

May 14, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

whew….

By Matt

May 14, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

So glad Tommy got his won, but good God that was a pathetic 9th.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

Wow. I though victorino got that one.

I was ready to start calling Boyer Blaine Blower, as in blows saves.

Scary, but good win. Lets end the trip with a win tomorrow with James looking to stay undefeated in Philly.

By beachcomber

May 14, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

As the late Bob Prince used to say, “we had them all the way!”

By MiamiBrave

May 14, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

anyone else not have any nails left?

I give credit to Blaine, he knew exactly what he was doing, he was trying to give us a 1 run win.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Robin, I don’t know where you are, but we are channeling right now! I’m glad it was hypothetical, but it got pretty close!

I would vote for it being a BAD thing, when you’re up 8-0.

By Cecil34

May 14, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Well, it wasn’t pretty but it still counts as a win.

I am hoping the game will be remembered as the turning point in the march toward the division crown.

Rubber game tomorrow!

123 to go! Thanks to DOB’s guidance, using the 90 win mark as probable division winner’s win total, magic number at 70!

By ernesto

May 14, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

t-t-t-that w-w-w-w-w-was a sh-sh-sh-shaky save B-b-b-blaine

By MP

May 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

DOB… Someone (you) need to tell the Bennett kid that he needs to drop the chewing tobacco. How ugly and disgusting to watch him on TV and think of all the young people who will think that is cool. I’m sure he is addicted to it, but tell him to do whatever to get over that.

Another reason to lose interest in major league baseball.

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see Eric Young’s outfit on ESPN Sportscenter? Brown suit with pink, yes pink, pinstripes, pink silk tie and pink shirt. Put on the sunglasses!!

By Logan23

May 14, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Both water boarding and relief pitching should be classified as torture.

By ncscoots

May 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Evidently Cox can’t see it or more likely just doesn’t want to pull the kid…

SG, I’m not sure that’s it. Maybe an OF of Kotsay, Blanco, Diaz, Infante, or Norton just doesn’t excite. I know I’d be less than jubilant.

I don’t know if his ankle is really a problem, or if he needs a mental health day, or any of the other premises bandied about here. I do know that, if he sits, somebody else has to play RF, and the options just don’t look that good to me. Or to Bobby, either, maybe.

By Robin

May 14, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Mark in PA - Macon Ga.here. I feel ya man. Hypothetical indeed. Still too close for comfort. I almost wished I’d kept my mouth shut. Phew!

Highlight of the game …. Burrell’s “touchdown” deadball call!!

:)

By Scott from Fairburn

May 14, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

I tire of listening to game analysis by former jocks like Bob Walk or Brian Jordan. Most of these guys can’t write a paragraph much less form and articulate a coherent thought.

By i cant take it anymore

May 14, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

i hate manny. i mean everything. i just hate him.

By Greg

May 14, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Chuck James in that pinball game of a park tomorrow. The Horror! I bet we lose by 12.

By JEB

May 14, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

MP Geez!!! Chill out!! Or lose interest or something. Who do you think DOB is to go tell any ball player something like that?? Who would even do that? GEEEZZZ!

By Jeff321

May 14, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

I was watching the Phillies feed and they think Chipper tweaked his groin again, eh? Ya know after that swing, grimace, and trot down to first.

Btw, Boyer better not be nowhere to be seen after the big 3 return to the bullpen! Sheesh, what is it with Cox and these losers?

By JEB

May 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

DOB For a good look at Chipper, what are his numbers for the last 162 consecutive games played? Or for 324 games (2 years avg.)

By Cecil34

May 14, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

MP

I KNOW DOB has more important things to do than lecture a major league ballplayer on whether he should be chewing terbacky….

By TennesseePaul

May 14, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

DOB: Your description of the event was way cooler than it actually turned out to be. He catches the ball, runs 15/20 feet jumps up the wall and high fives a fan that doesn’t know what is going on and then tosses it back in. I thought it was going to be more bang bang than that. Now I wish I’d never seen the clip. The game you described was way more exciting.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

dear bobby’s cox

you are a moron. I need to grow up for using the term “dawg”, which stands for UGA btw not a buddy term, but you name yourself after our HOF managers genitalia??

well - if your going to be a dick might as well name yourself one.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Did anyone else (MLB.com victims, or folks in Philly) note that Harry and the other Philthy announcer were almost hoping they were seeing Chipper injured? I will say in the last at bat, there was more in his grimace than “Dang, I missed that one” when he swung and missed, and he was dogging it to first on the groundout. But the shots of him in the dugout looked like he was fine. Hate to even bring it up.

Nats beat the Mets, and Reds can beat the Fish with one run.

By Savannah Guy

May 14, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

Maybe that’s it Scoots, but you can see he’s slowed and favoring the ankle. His flailing approach at the plate tonight showed that a mental health day wouldn’t hurt Frenchy either. After the 9th inning tonight I could probably use one of those myself.

Right now I just don’t think we’d lose anything at all with Kotsay, Blanco and Diaz out there. Might even steal some bases and score some runs to boot. That and a little down to earth reality check for Jeff.

By ObiWanKobe

May 14, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

DOB, I got an advance of the new “Mates of State” album. I highly recommend them; this is a good disc, just as their last one is. By the way they are now a married couple who happened to have met and formed the band at the “illustrious” University of Kansas. Sorry, I did grad @ USC & had high hopes for the hoops team going into the tourney. It’s pretty much been downhill since them. It was nice to actually get to watch a game! Thank you Evil 4 Lettered Network (BSPN).

By TJ

May 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Chipper did look hurt to me, not only after the swing, but walking back to the dugout. God, I hope he’s in the lineup tomorrow.

As to Burrell’s hands-up call: he made the right play … I don’t get the criticism. If he plays the ball, a run scores. (course, thanks to McCann the run ended up scoring anyway). He called for a ground rule using the correct signal, and he was right.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Captain Caveman(dawg)

No. I name my self Bobby’s Cox as in the Game Cocks from South Carolina…meaning, Bobby’s Cocks, as in our HOF manager’s boys or team.

Better post than that last one on coach though….so props on that.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

A rookie named Paul Yanish just got his first Big League hit for the Reds, to win the game in the bottom of the tenth. Man, great to see—esp. after they blew a six run lead in the ninth! Made me think of Frenchy’s first game, and the walk-off dinger.

Fish go down! Mets go down! Phillies go down! Braves pull to 2.5 back!

By Robin

May 14, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

I think Chipper just tweaked the groin a little, nothing major hopefully. Fish go down in 10. 7-6 Reds. Mets lose too. Yessss.

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

JEFF321

I strongly object to you calling Blaine Boyer and others losers. Why would you want to belittle our younger players who are being put into this situation because of injuries? Do you feel better about yourself now that you have been so degrading to young guys doing the best they can? I don’t understand people like you so I won’t try to act as small as you did.

You can bet on one thing. Boyer and Acosta will be on the roster when Smoltz, Gonzalez and Soriano come back. I’m happy to have them on the Braves.

By Robin

May 14, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

TJ Yeah, you’re right on Burrell’s call. I wasn’t criticizing, it just looked kinda comical. Correct play though.

By Bobby's Cox

May 14, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

today ESPN showed Frenchy’s 1st major league HR. It was just to the right of center field.

I wonder if Frenchy remembers that hit. I wonder more why he’s abandoned hitting the ball to that part of the park.

If he tried hitting the ball up the middle it’ll help him stay inside the ball and get a better look at the pitch. Even last year when he had all those clutch 2 out hits, i remember most of those hits being up the middle.

By David O'Brien

May 14, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

Jeff, Chipper didn’t tweak anything.

Oh, and nice comment about “losers.” That all you got? Weak.

Boyer’s made over 20 appearances this season. He’s pitched very well in most of them.

By richbrave

May 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Bobby’s Cox:

Maybe he’s been listening to TP.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 14, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

bobbys cocks

Oh crap!! South Carolina?!?!

Your a GameCock?!

Well that explains a lot, and yet another reason for me to dislike you.

This is the same program that starts off the really strong but becomes softer and - shall I say flaccid- when the game or season is on the line…..

Well — just like a bunch of cocks !!

and the only reason I give Coach crap is b/c he started on me one day and has continued with other bloggers — using his self -styled copying of info and blatant distortion of the truth.

So I will continue until I have satisfied myself or until someone like yourself decides to take his place.

Mess with the Dawg and he’ll take a bite.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

There’s the box score up now— Land of Goshen, 19 men LOB for the Braves! Phillies left 7 (and scared the mess out of us). Tex left 5 and Jeff left 4. Some of that is their position in the order, but dang! Despite the win, not sure we ‘fixed’ the problem tonight.

By uga-brave

May 14, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

DOB,

great lead in tonight. all your points were dead on. this team gonna need more power performaces like tonight to be competitive. this is not a station to station team.

francoeur does not need a day off. what he needs is a new swing.

i have never seen a good power hitter that drops his hands like he does. almost impossible to square up on a ball consistently with all that movement. there is no way he can keep his weight back, thus zero power the opposite way.

he is the polar opposite of hoss. that first inning homerun was a bomb the other way. chipper hands are so quiet. the less moving parts the better.

actually it is pretty amazing that frenchy is hitting .275 with that swing.

By Mark in PA

May 14, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this

DOB, you’ve got to get ahold of the AJC poll writer and have a talk. The current poll up asks if the PIRATES are the team to beat in the NL EAST.

N8 would have a sarcasm orgasm if he saw that (but the Braves won tonight, so he’s off eating his bowl of sad alone).

By brent a.

May 14, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this

Lew

Pure class at 5:06 PM. I hope you win the next election at Del Boca Vista.

By albanian braves fan

May 14, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

is asking by all braves fans: who is royce ring? really?

royce ring = ring lardner?

royce ring = ring of lard?

royce ring = lard of the ring?

has 7.11 era. must not be pitcher.

By uga-brave

May 14, 2008 11:54 PM | Link to this

DOB,

your friends at the AJC have done it again. there is a poll on the braves site that asks who is the team to beat in the N.L. east. listed among the competion are the pirates.

i dont know what is worse, them putting the bucs in the nl east or the people that actually voted for them.

By brent a.

May 14, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

uga-brave:

Before the NBA play-offs started, there was an AJC poll asking how long the Hawks-Celtics series would go.

One of the options was “Celtics in 3”.

It makes me wonder sometimes if these polls are actually written by people in the “Sports Section” (for lack of the appropriate term), or just some tech person.

By Mark T.

May 15, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

I think Blanco will be our leadoff hitter, somewhere about Mid June. I think Bobby is just being more patient with rushing Blanco to the top of the lineup. I believe he did the same thing with Furcal, granted an injury and slightly ineffective Quilvio Veras helped but he did and didn’t look back. So, I’ll look forward to that

By albanian braves fan

May 15, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

is reading comment on blog: “it makes me wonder sometimes if these polls are actually written by people in the ‘sports section’… or just some tech person.”

actually, is outsourced to techy peoples in bulgaria. doing it cheaper than albanians, but not so good.

By uga-brave

May 15, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this

on the bright side of all these one run losses is the the fact we have not needed a closer. braves have the fewest save opportunities in the n.l.

hard to believe the team with the best e.r.a. and highest batting average in the n.l. is one game over .500. something has gotta give.

By Allie2

May 15, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

Why is it so hard for people to read a boxscore? The Braves DID NOT leave 19 men base. They left 7 and the Phillies left 5. The first LOB total are individual totals. If Tex leaves two runners on base and then Mac leaves the same two runners on base they each have 2 LOB. The first total (for some reason) would count that as 4. However, for the team, only 2 men were LOB.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

uga-brave, that is hilarious. I just saw it when I logged on again after getting back to the hotel. Wow.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

ObiWan, I’ve heard good stuff about Mates of State, but haven’t heard the actual music. Didn’t know they were Rock Chalkers. Now I’ll definitely check it out.

By uga-brave

May 15, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

couple of interesting tidbits.

steve phillps just said we are on pace for get this, 1000 less homeruns in the league this year.

justin verlander is 1-7, maybe a change of scenery? i dont think the hitters were the only ones doing mass quanities of ped’s.

lance berkman is right there with chipper. both are having amazing starts.

linda cohen of espn and noted new york fan keeps pandering for david wright. shocker.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

uga-brave: Maybe it’s just a statement about the Nationals’ chances of winning the NL East — less than the Pirates’ chances? Naah, probably not.

I do find it interesting that the Pirates have received almost as many votes as the Mets so far in that poll.

I’d better tell someone about the problem, though.

Hey, we all make mistakes.

By uga-brave

May 15, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this

like albanian braves said, you guys are just trying to save some money and outsourcing that position to some soccer fan in bulgaria.

By Mark in PA

May 15, 2008 1:06 AM | Link to this

Allie2—It’s actually pretty easy to read the box score. They total it for ya right at the bottom of the column! :-)

Braves batters left 19 runners on base for the game. It means a lot of ABs with runners on base, and a lot of not getting it done. That’s what I said, and that’s what they did.

You are looking at TEAM LOB, which is runners stranded after the half inning. It does not tell the full tale, as it does not reflect the multiple batters coming up with runners on and less than two out, and not bringing them in. (although advancing runners will also show in total LOB…hmm.)

Missed some chances, but got Tommy his win— lets just call it a win and hope for another tomorrow.

By Coach (Braves In 2008 to the Playoffs)

May 15, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

uga-brave, your 12:43 is right on the money.

No more PEDS, HR’s are down, stolen bases are up. Go figure !

By scottbravesfan

May 15, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this

Chuck James pitching tomorrow in Philly, in that tiny ball park? The Phillies are going to hit a ton of homers tomorrow night. I hope the braves bring their hitting shoes with them again tomorrow night.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this

La Jolla Dawg: I love “When The Spell is Broken.” Almost used the lyrics a couple weeks ago; will do it soon.

As for favorite solo album of his, I’d probably take Mock Tudor, or the live CD of the Mock Tudor songs that he did later.

By Please, no more

May 15, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this

So, I have been a giant Braves fan since I was born as my family has always held season tickets… was there for randy’s perfect game….awesome

I have never posted but I have read this blog for well over a year now, DOB keep up the great job we all enjoy it.

My only real qualm with the blog is the fact that Coach (little league?) constantly degrades people left and right, or challenges them to bring stats or to do their homework…

The first month or so I thought it was funny the back and forth between everyone and the Coach (of what exactly? annoying rants and predictions?) But just like we all remember the kid in highschool who every one was friends with yet no one knew why, his antics have grown old.

My question to you Coach (ahh must be softball) why don’t you just get your own blog where you can point your stats and predictions. I have read the blog for almost 2 years now and seriously man it is tiresome. All you do is degrade people who question you, yet when u mess up (Randy Myers? Seriously?) you brush it off like you did no wrong.

Seriously what do you do on this blog other than annoy the p** out of us fans? So your a fan of the Braves and you devote more time to researching statistics like KJ’s batting average when he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and eats capn crunch instead of wheaties in the morning. Honestly, grow up you are annoying.

By N8

May 15, 2008 1:19 AM | Link to this

Mark in Pa

“N8 would have a sarcasm orgasm if he saw that (but the Braves won tonight, so he’s off eating his bowl of sad alone).”

Now, now. I’ve been “nice” for a couple of days.

Actually I just got home, a few minutes ago. Looks like the Braves were trying to make this a one run victory, huh? Either way. Nice victory, and nice for Glavine to get it.

That POLL is frickin great. I don’t really like the Pirates chances, but I will put money down on the Dallas Cowboys winning the US Open this weekend.

By Mark in PA

May 15, 2008 1:31 AM | Link to this

Yeah, I guess that came across a little mean (except for the sarcasm part—that part’s right on!). Sorry, Nate. As I’ve stated, you are the hedge fund of the few readers I look for when scrolling the blog.

By Quack Quack

May 15, 2008 1:31 AM | Link to this

More importantly, you put on the hit-and-run, you’re basically telling Chipper “you have to swing at this pitch.” If he doesn’t swing, we risk taking a runner off base ahead of him; and if he does, he’s likely swinging at a pitch he wouldn’t otherwise swing at. And, it’s a distraction to the hitter to have a runner going.TJ3:51

Finally somebody who has a clue about what occurs in an at bat. Talk about some stupid suggestions, Hit & run with Chipper regularly is one of the all-time doozies. As is moving Yunel back in the order which means fewer base-runners on in front of our best hitter Chipper and fewer at bats for Yunel. It’s hard to believe some of the utterly clueless suggestions on this board. My guess is that most have never played a game of baseball in their lives but they sure think they are GMs and Mgrs

By BA

May 15, 2008 1:39 AM | Link to this

It thrills me that the Braves spent the early part of that game launching off Brett Myers. The guy is a scumbag that beat his wife (in public, no less) he should have been locked up. You reap what you sow, you POS

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 15, 2008 1:42 AM | Link to this

PLEASE NO MORE

OK- it is not rare that I fall out laughing but I was eating some Ravioli when I read your post and I ended up laughing so hard that I spit some on the monitor.

Capn Crunch….. LMAO

I don’t know if that was really your first post or not but it was freakin’ hilarious!!

Well — Coach — it just goes to show that if this blog was a seesaw then you’d be stuck up in the air all day cuz we are all over here on the ground.

By mr baseball

May 15, 2008 1:47 AM | Link to this

Please, no more:

Don’t get so worked up about Coach. He is to this blog what Alan Keyes is to Presidential politics. A self-designated “expert” who is taken seriously by exactly one person — himself.

It’s enjoyable to spar with Coach because he is devoid of any serious weaponry and leads with his jaw in the style of Chuck Wepner, making him a very easy target to hit.

Once every few weeks, he actually says something that makes sense (Greg Norton), but most of his amusing offerings are either painfully obvious or dreadfully wrong.

Coach better hope that Chucky gets hammered later tonight, otherwise he’s going to be target of a multitude of epithets ending with the blog’s slightly overused favorite:

COACH…. YOUR….. AND….. IDIOT.

Anybody else on here going to bid farewell to our 40-year-old PGA Tour event this week? Been going for the last 25 or so and it’s going to be a sad day for us golf fans in Atlanta when all we have left is East Lake and its tiny field.

This may be our last chance to catch Paul Goydos live and in person.

By BA

May 15, 2008 1:57 AM | Link to this

DOB, in your opinion, does Hoss REALLY have a shot at .400? Am I a sucker for considering it? You guys see that hit in the first game of off Romero?! To me, it seems like the guy can hit at will this year. When you can get hits like that, you’ve got me thinking.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 2:02 AM | Link to this

Forgot to mention, many of you will be glad to know the Braves actually worked on bunting (and fielding) for more than an hour this afternoon, long before batting practice.

Hey, I think it’s at least an acknowledgment of a problem, for them to go back to doing some spring-training type drills. And if you ask me, they need to do it more often.

Nothing wrong with voluntary workouts on a semi-regular basis, because most guys will show up for those workouts if a few others are leading the way (and guys like Kotsay will lead the way. He’s like Renteria was, always ready to do extra work and lead by example in those workouts.)

By Quack Quack

May 15, 2008 2:08 AM | Link to this

scotch-irish.DAP

as Sean Connery once said, scotch is a drink not a nationality

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 2:10 AM | Link to this

BA, I don’t think so. But I do think he could hit something in the .370-.375 stratosphere. Which would be pretty outrageous, for a power hitter.

By BA

May 15, 2008 2:13 AM | Link to this

This Kotsay has been a really good find. That bit about Renteria tells me a lot about this guys class. He’s certainly a beast in center, better than I remember in his Marlins/Padres years. Smart batter, seems to really have a handle on getting good AB’s. He’s won me over, and I originally wanted that burner Josh Anderson to get the job.

By A-ville Ranger

May 15, 2008 2:32 AM | Link to this

Watching Chip bat lately reminds me of a couple of willy old vets in other sports in my past.First Wayland Billingsly (Mr B) was my Karate instructor in Rome Ga back in the 80s.Mr B taught Deaf kids at the state school in Cavespring and he was also back in school himself working towards his masters (or perhaps another one).With his busy schedule and being in his 40s he had put on a few lbs.He still found time to spar the young stud blackbelts and he would block their punches and kicks so subtilely he barely seemed to move.The other case is a guy we called Doc,who had played on the champion Princton basketball team with Bill Bradley back in the late 50s.He was in HIS late 50s when we played racket ball,I was in my early 30s and a fair athlete in great condition at the time.The old guy would tie me up so bad in the corners with what looked like junk.To this day I don’t really grasp how he did it.Now back to Chipper,his swing looks so uncomplicated,so easy,only a veteran with his understanding and talent can reach a point where it all looks so simple.

By BA

May 15, 2008 2:34 AM | Link to this

I firmly believe Tony Gwynn would have done it in the strike year. It’s a damn shame. And N8, don’t look now, but my “best bullpen in the league” theory isn’t the pipe dream it was a couple of weeks ago! Of course, we all knew Smoltzie would come back. The beauty is, the Braves are treading water ‘till the three-headed monster fully matastasizes. Think Gonzalez and Soriano were nasty last year? Wait till they send the bearded icon down there with them. He might even teach ‘em the knuckleball.

By Bobby's Cox

May 15, 2008 2:37 AM | Link to this

Caveman

No, i’m not a So. Carolina fan…i’m a sports fan and derived the B’s C name from them as a tribute to the work BC did building this organization.

i’m not gonna get in it with you. i like to voice my opinion on here and have discussions with those that agree or disagree, especially when the team is struggling.

i read your post and thought it was out of line. i understand where you’re coming from. no hard feelings.

By Bobby's Cox

May 15, 2008 2:44 AM | Link to this

Really DOB they had fundamentals practice today?

That almost makes me more happy than the win today…not really, but it’s good to know.

Who was it that said i had room temperature IQ a few weeks ago? Go back and read the blogs and see that I called a team meeting and bunting practice before they both happened.

By Bobby's Cox

May 15, 2008 2:56 AM | Link to this

francoeur does not need a day off. what he needs is a new swing. i have never seen a good power hitter that drops his hands like he does uga-brave

there’s a thought. LaRoche did/does the same thing and that swing didn’t work for him either.

By Coach Defender

May 15, 2008 3:39 AM | Link to this

And don’t worry about trying to ignore me, that is just your status qou ( that means what you normally do CaptainCaveman

Status qou? If you’re gonna pick on someone for minor goofs it would probably behoove you not to make any yourself in your post don’t you think?

By Be_More_Careful_DOB

May 15, 2008 3:59 AM | Link to this

So glad Tommy got his won, but good God that was a pathetic 9th.Matt

yeah DOB’s damn blog title was almost prophetic…again. He’s gotta start being more careful about them thangs

By chop chick's cameltoe

May 15, 2008 4:00 AM | Link to this

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the handle, “Bobby’s Cox”.

By OUCH

May 15, 2008 5:10 AM | Link to this

Mess with the Dawg and he’ll take a biteCCDawg

Oh, that is just sooo scary,Bubba.

By nolie

May 15, 2008 6:13 AM | Link to this

I see that Cody Johnson has relapsed so far this spring. 62 Ks in 133 at bats 16 BBs and a .233 average. I was hoping he was on his way, but I wonder if he will ever really amount to anything. Huge strike out numbers all 2+ seasons.At least his walks are up some.

By ncgary

May 15, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

By keylargo

May 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Re: James vs. Hamels

Bookies all over America are salivating over the “sure thing” bet like that. It seems like it goes more to the underdog the “surer” it gets.

was thinking the exact same thing when i read yours, i was fixing to say yeah bet the phillies big and watch braves win, they do occasionaly make the throw off game though , just to keep the pros on their toes

By ncgary

May 15, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

i realize the braves pulling off a blockbuster trade probably have about the same odds as 1 of you being struck by lightning twice in the same year, but dont scoff too fast , have you stepped outside in a storm lately?? looks like someone upstairs may be showing a little wrath,

so peavey and maddux probably wont happen, unless wren wants to give up 3 out fielders 2 middle infielders a catcher a proven pitcher and a pitching prospect , ya get the scenery im sure, and then theres the fact that between the 2 of thems salary owed the rest of the year is more than even hamptons insurance leaves in the coffers, but what does it take to get maddux, if they wanted someone who at 42 would probably be a 35 and healthy hamptons equal, pena and b jones??

By Jeff321

May 15, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this

Fair enough, DOB. Btw, I’d love to know what you think of Boyer and Resop.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Morning All,

Nice to win one on the road, huh?

Does the high curve ball from Boyer remind anyone else of Chris Reitsma?

When you have a 96 MPH fastball and a pretty good slider and you are a relief pitcher, why not drop that curve ball or NEVER throw it for a strike?

Yesterday Chase and others were suggesting that Esocobar be moved down in the order.

I disagree. I actually like Esco and Kotsay hitting one and two. I am not sure it would not be better to flip them, but I like those 2 “setting the table” for Chipper and Tex.

I was always taught that you wanted your guys that were getting on base the most in the 1 and 2 slots. Right now, those 2 guys are Esco and Kotsay.

If KJ or someone else heats up, then make a change, but I like this lineup.

Good luck to Chuckie tonight. Hopefully he can give us 5 to 6 innings and keep the game close.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

How about Blaine Boyer? It was just a couple of weeks ago people were talking about what a disaster he is and how he doesn’t belong in the big leagues.

So far this month he’s pitched seven innings, allowing only five hits and one earned run, striking out six and walking zero.

Shows how deceiving a relief pitcher’s ERA can be especially early in the season. This guy can pitch. And anyone who payed attention to his K/BB and HR ratios (or if you prefer it in less statistical terms, his control, his ability to miss bats and his ability to keep the ball in the park) knew it even early on when he was having a couple of bad outings that skewed his ERA.

By Braveheart

May 15, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Tex knows these games count right?

25% of the season is almost over and the wannabe $25 million dollar man is still MIA

By Efrim

May 15, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Shaun

It is a shame that he is pitching in the 8th and 9th innings instead of the 6th and 7th. It would of been an electric bullpen if Moylan and Soriano stayed healthy. Damn shame.

By Efrim

May 15, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

DOB

Have you heard anything from Frank Wren on Gorkys Hernandez? He has been out for about a month with a hamstring strain and I was wondering how much longer he was expected to be out. Thanks.

By Will

May 15, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Well we finally got to see the Braves recipe for a win. Just get up 8 runs and that should be enough of a cushion right??? And i dont care what Blaine Boyer stats are this month that guy is a disaster waiting to happen. If Victorino doesnt get JUST under that ball last night its a 4 run 9th and a blown save. With Chuck J going tonight i would put 1000 dollars on the Phillies

By TPM

May 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

I commend Tom Glavine for getting through the fifth inning, but let’s not get to excited about a man who clearly hit the wall after 80 pitches. This was an average performance. You do not pitch against Brett Meyers every night.

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

With Chuck J going tonight i would put 1000 dollars on the PhilliesWill

So what’s stopping you? Good luck.

FLANGE1: Funny you mention that. When we came out of Cox’s office last night to talk to players after the game, Smoltz was over at Boyer’s locker, explaining exactly how he thought he could improve his pitch selection and how to use the curveball in better situations, use it off the fastball as a complementary pitch, rather than in a couple of those situations that resulted in hits last night. Boyer said he understood and agreed after Smoltz explained it to him.

By Happy Pills

May 15, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Will, take two of me and look at the bright side of things. It’s not healthy being gloomy every day of your life.

By brent a.

May 15, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

DOB,

Just curious, has Smoltz indicated how he feels in comparison to how he felt in March/early April?

I recognize that he says he feels better than he did in his last start against New York, but just curious if his current pain level is better or worse than it was when he was lights-out for 5-6 inning stints early in the season.

Thanks.

By Slider29

May 15, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SMOLTZIE

DOB

Updates from the party please.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Does the high curve ball from Boyer remind anyone else of Chris Reitsma?

When you have a 96 MPH fastball and a pretty good slider and you are a relief pitcher, why not drop that curve ball or NEVER throw it for a strike?

Only on this blog would someone complain about a 26-year-old who has struck out 61 hitters, walked only 23 and given up only 3 homers in his first 67.3 big league innings and 72 big league games.

Reitsma had 36 strikeouts, 20 walks and five homers in his first 67.1 big league innings (I cut it off at 67.1 instead of 67.3 because this was the most convenient way to do it with BaseballReference.com’s tools. Hey, it’s close enough.).

I know it’s most likely easier for a pitcher to put up impressive numbers as a reliever pitching an inning at a time because he can gear up and doesn’t have to pace himself as much. But 36 strikeouts in a pitcher’s first 67.1 innings is a far cry from 61 strikeouts in 67.3 innings.

Boyer - 0.41 HR/9, 3.14 BB/9, 8.18 K/9

Reitsma - 1.12 HR/9, 2.42 BB/9, 5.31 K/9

Reitsma’s best season(s) don’t approach Boyer’s career averages.

The curveball is quite obviously working for Boyer. Absolutely no reason to drop it. In fact, I’d venture to guess that if he did drop it, that may hurt him and his team.

By Cecil34

May 15, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

I thought Tom pitched a good game last night - yes, he looked out of gas in the 6th, but his performance is what they needed.

Tommy looks like he could lose a few pounds - that would work wonders for his stamina.

All in all a good outing for him.

Very encouraging; if Chuck will pitch his “A” game tonight, we will have no worries.

123 to go - 70 more to win!

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Brent A, he hasn’t thrown off mound yet, so he can’t tell how he’s going to feel until he does that.

He’s pointed out several times that, while he was dominant in those early season outings, he was not at all pain-free.

So far, in these flat-ground throwing sessions, he’s been pain-free. But now the spikes go on and he goes to the mound this weekend (provided today’s final session from 120 feet goes like the others this week have gone).

By FloridaBrave

May 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

What’s the deal with everyone crapping on Boyer? The guy’s been probably our most reliable reliever since the start of the season and Bobby also agrees since he’s recorded the most innings outside of maybe Bennett who has made spot starts. His ERA isn’t amazing because every once in awhile he gets lit up but most of the time, he has done a fantastic job for us. He may be able to close for us down the road. I like his potential that much.

By Jeff321

May 15, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

“Boyer said he understood and agreed after Smoltz explained it to him.”

So, who’s calling pitches during the game? Boyer? McCann? Cox? McDowell?

While I think this is good news concerning Smoltz little talk with Boyer.. Couldn’t that have been done prior to him almost blowing the game?

By N8

May 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

BA

Let’s get one thing straight.

IF (BIG IF), Smoltz, Gonzo and Soriano are all remotely healthy (along with Ring, Bad Ohman, Campillo, Acosta and even Boyer), it WILL be the best bullpen in the league, and the best pen we’ve EVER had.

But considering the 3 most important guys in that mix are ALL on the DL right now, it makes me a bit nervous.

Having said that, if 2 of the “big 3” in the pen, can be healthy at all times, it will still be an outstanding pen.

Last year, before the season started, we all talked about it being a 6 inning game with Soriano, Gonzo and Wickman out there.

Make no mistake about it, this trio will be better (especially with Soriano now having a little closer experience).

It’s purely the health of all of them, that worries me. NOT their ability.

Very similar to Chipper. Has ANYBODY ever really questioned his ability, the past few years? Nope. Just his ability to stay on the field (even if the injuries - some of them - were freakish in nature).

So to make a short point long, I completely agree with you, that if those 3 stay healthy, this pen will be deadly, to say the least.

Let’s cross our fingers.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Shaun,

Excuse me for making a comment on a curve ball that got CRUSHED almost every time its was thrown last night.

I guess we should get DOB to talk to Smoltz about keeping his mouth shut and consulting you and your f’ing stats before he talks to any of the younger guys about pitching.

Sometimes it’s best when you don’t know what you are talking about to just shut up.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Jeff321, Boyer gave up, what, two somewhat hard-hit balls last night?

Kind of like Tuesday night. Joe Simpson and Boog Sciambi were talking last night about the hits Reyes gave up. He didn’t give up too many solid hits. Lots of bloop singles.

But, I know, I know. I’m just being overly optimistic. Hits are always the pitcher’s fault.

By KC

May 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

N8: Yeah, how intense would it be to add Soriano, Smoltz, and Gonzalez to your bullpen, ALL IN ONE WEEK!!!!

Add those 3 guys to a pen that’s already been solid, and… holy $%^*!!

Pretty impressive if we can get those guys healthy (and keep them reasonably healthy).

The offense is already stacked. Despite some frustrations at times - especially on the road - the lineup is just fine. MORE than fine. We all know Tex is going to start hitting at some point. If we can keep Chipper healthy and get Tex going… watch out!

The only thing left after that, in my humble opinion, is to trade for Maddux or some other experienced quality starter to help anchor the bottom of the rotation.

A little bit of luck in the health dept., and a timely trade for an experienced starter (or a Hampton comeback - though I’m not holding my breath)… should be enough to get the Braves back to the post-season.

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

DOB

If you are going to continually talk about MUSIC and ARTISTS you MUST talk about the best one ever…..two words…JIMMY BUFFETT

If anyone can’t appreciate the 35+ years of success that that guy has had well…I don’t even know how to finish that one….

How about local Athens Singer COREY SMITH

how can you go wrong with Jimmy Buffett,… Nickleback,.. Alan Jackson,.. Corey Smith, …The Eagles,… a little Allman Brothers, Johnny Cash,.. Ozzy O,.. and maybe even some Elton John on your MP3?

By Soul Man

May 15, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

When Andruw Jones was performing so poorly for the Braves last year, I couldn’t wait until he was gone. And because I didn’t want someone to whom the Braves had said goodbye to perform well for another NL team, I hoped he would stink in LA. My hope for poor numbers for Andruw in LA was personal, too, admittedly. I had grown weary of his GIDP in clutch situations, his smirk whenever he’d strike out clumsily. But I just read LA Times’ columnist T.J. Simers’ most recent column on Andruw and I’m experiencing an emotion I never thought I’d have for the Willemstad native: compassion. Look, we know Andruw doesn’t want to perform as poorly as he is performing. We know it must really hurt to be booed by your new team’s fans. And getting called “Tubbo” by some columnist can’t be helping things. Simers probably thinks he’s impressing readers by transcribing his aggressive exchanges with Andruw about the centerfielder’s weight and poor performance. It’s had the opposite effect on me, though, as I see in Simers a man who talks to a fellow adult like he is a child. I sometimes wish Andruw would slug him one. Look, Andruw has been a horrible baseball player so far this year. He is a waste of the millions of dollars the Dodgers have committed to him. But he is a person and he has feelings. I’ve worked as a writer for a website with thousands of subscribers and when you get told you suck at your job, it gets to you sometimes. Compassion. Never thought I’d have it for Andruw. But I do. About 248 pounds worth.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 15, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Nice to see that Boyer is getting some good advice from the HOF and trying to make adjustments to what he did last night. It’s good that he’s got a curve, but isn’t that the pitch that he threw on each of the hits last night, including Victorino’s warning-track fly out?

Just curious — where’s Chris Resop? He hasn’t pitched since May 3, and his last appearance before that one was Apr. 27th. Looks like Cox has decided to use him only when the Braves are either up by a wide margin or down by three or more. What’s the over/under — or, I guess before/after date — for how long he’ll remain a Brave?

By DAP

May 15, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

bobby’s cox I wonder if Frenchy remembers that hit. I wonder more why he’s abandoned hitting the ball to that part of the park.

you need to go check jeff’s hit charts. he is going oppo field ALOT this season. i actually think thats part of the problem. hes looking away so he can hit it oppo field, and swinging at pitches off the plate. no homers, but alot of hits-and outs-hit to right field this year for jeff.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Shaun,

I did not compare Boyer to Reitsma, I compared their curve balls. Try to read before you run your mouth.

By Renegator

May 15, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

chase (the original)

I hear you on Buffett. You going to the Atlanta show on June 5th?

By Negativity

May 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Some people get way to high off one win.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

flange1, just looked up the data on mlb.com’s Gameday. The only curveball that anyone got a hit on was one he threw to Rollins (a ground-ball single).

The two line drive hits he gave up were on a fastball to Coste and a change-up to Dobbs.

Only two hitters put his curve in play—Rollins got the groundball single and Victorino flied out to end the game. He actually got a lot of called strikes with the curve.

Not trying to be a jerk. Just pointing out the facts. Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about. Just relying on the facts.

According to baseballreference.com, Boyer has only given up 8 line-drives all year. That’s 8 line-drives, 2 homers, and only 4 walks.

By DAP

May 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

im glad smoltz talked to boyer about that curve. the words “dont throw that curve again” had just left my mouth when boyer gave up the RBI single to rollins. its a great pitch, he just throws it to much. to me, when youve got a 96mph fastball, that curve should be used to get strike one, and to get strike three. and MAYBE outside of the strike zone to get a guy to chase every now and then. other than that, id rely on that fastball.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 15, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

how can you go wrong with Jimmy Buffett,… Nickleback,.. Alan Jackson,.. Corey Smith, …The Eagles,… a little Allman Brothers, Johnny Cash,.. Ozzy O,.. and maybe even some Elton John on your MP3?chase (the original)

You can’t go wrong with those artists on your mp3 player…as long as you spill your margarita on it and it shorts out. Losing those Allman Bros and Johnny Cash files would be a shame though, so make sure those are backed up to your hard drive.

By BamaBrave

May 15, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

There you have it, folks… Chase has enlightened us with comprehensive and definitive guidance on what music we should like. Thanks a bunch, dude. I don’t have any Jimmy Buffet, but I’ll be sure to run right out and get his entire collection.

Geeeeeezus…

By Lew

May 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Flange-Dude, we should be happy that Boyer’s curve only had warning track power. Reitsma’s went all the way-way too often.

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

BamaBrave and Daybed

Did I spit in your faces?

I keep hearing/seeing actually, everyone chime in with artists they listen to….i don’t necessarily always like what they do or what DOB does….

But I don’t attack them for it…

Everyone likes different music and it is personal to them…

I have an “eclectic taste” I listen to everything….

I have all of those artists and a ton others from FRANK SINATRA to 2Pac….from Tim McGraw to PINK FLOYD….

But before you dump on Jimmy Buffet…answer me this….Have you ever met someone who hasn’t heard of the song or the term MARGARITAVILLE?

And DAYBED…sure seems like ALAN JACKSON and NICKLEBACK have had some great succcess and staying power…

Nickleback are throw backs….in an age of meaningless lyrics and buble gum crap THEIR LYRICS STILL HAVE MEANING not just pointless ryhming words….

BamaBrave I guess you hate Corey Smith for his “Every Dawg has his Day” song….

For any Dawg fan who hasn’t heard that one…it is a MUST as is “Wishing I was 21”

There is a great DAWG montage to Every Dawg on YOUTUBE

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Renegator

I hate to miss it BUT I’ll actually be vacationing in Florida then….so I’ll be doing Parrotheads proud..!

By DAP

May 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

shaun sometimes those things on gameday are wrong. the reason i think that is because dobbs definetly hit a curve. maybe if a curve doesnt break as much as its supposed to, the gameday misinterprets it as a changeup, but that wasnt a changeup. so he gave up two hits in the 9th on curves, one resulted in a run. the curve he threw victorino was hit pretty hard as well.

boyer’s curve is a good pitch but he threw it WAY to much last night.

By KC

May 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

There sure had been a lot of talk about Andruw Jones over the past couple weeks…

Am I the only one that doesn’t give a damn? I mean, the guy plays for the Dodgers now. I couldn’t possibly care less about his struggles.

By MGL

May 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

BamaBrave - Don’t forget to pick up Perry Como’s greatest hits.

By bruce

May 15, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

David: Did you see the guy during Philly BP flip over the fence onto the field? It was from left field stands closest to bullpens, maybe 20-25 foot(?) flip & fall. He dropped a ball when it was first tossed to him, (could have been Cole Hamels) so it was tossed again, he lunges arms outstretched, realizes he is going over, grabs the top rail or chain link below the rail to try to catch himself (the flip part) and then continues falling down onto the field, pretty sure it was close to a feet/leg landing (obstructed view) onto the field, if it had been anything bad the players would have responded differently… EMS took him off on a cart, he seemed to be enjoying the ride, but was laid back, might have hurt his leg. The players put their gloves over their mouths they were laughing so hard. How bout that for an on-field experience. He had been saying “Show some love” to get a ball. Chad Durbin had tossed one to him earlier, guess he got a bit greedy… If he comes back tonight I’ll get the scoop on what happened, (would definitely recognize his face and voice) ask him how much love was shown. BTW he had a Micky Mouse on his backpack, no kidding…

By bigchiefrg

May 15, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Resop will be put on waivers just as soon as Gonzo, Soriano, or Smoltzie come off the DL.

Boyer can throw the curve. He just CANT leave it waste high over the middle of the plate. The same way he cant leave his 96mph fastball waste high over the middle of the plate.

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

MGL

you’re so funny…are you proud of yourself?

By The Crab

May 15, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Am I the only one that doesn’t give a damn? I mean, the guy plays for the Dodgers now. I couldn’t possibly care less about his struggles.

No you are not the only one. I couln’t give a rat’s A$$ about A.J.’s weight or hitting problems. Had to read enough about him on this blog last year to last a lifetime. All I can say is he had better be glad the Yankees or Red Sox did not sign him. He would have already ran out of town.

Of course I still here the name marcus Giles mentioned on here time to time also. What a loser.

By brent a.

May 15, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

DOB,

Thanks for the info/response @ 9:52.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 15, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

chase (the original)

Relax, I was just making a light-hearted comment. All in good fun. I obviously don’t like Jimmy Buffett or Nickleback at all, but if you enjoy their music, then that’s fine and it doesn’t affect me. You’re absolutely right — everyone likes different music and it is personal to them, and nobody can tell anyone else that they’re wrong for liking something. I didn’t mean it as an attack, just a joke.

Now, that being said… ;)

Most people I know have at least heard of the term Margaritaville. Not to draw any direct comparisons, but most people I know have also heard of Adolf Hitler, American Idol, present-day MTV and the New York Mets. Just because something is widely well-known doesn’t mean it’s good.

Same with Alan Jackson and Nickleback — sure, they’ve had some financial success and staying power, but again, that doesn’t mean that they’re good. Now, I’m willing to bend a little on Alan Jackson — not a lot, but a little. Nickleback, on the other hand, is terrible. What exactly are they throw-backs to? Creed? I’m not familiar with their lyrics at all, but I find the ones I’ve heard to actually be exemplary of the “age of meaningless lyrics and bubble gum crap.” They may be in the rock genre, but not being “bubblegum pop” doesn’t make their lyrics any more significant or meaningful.

By the way, when did they first come on the scene? 2000 or so? So they’ve been around for about eight years and haven’t really persevered through any major shifts in rock music. My point is that it’s hard to prove their “staying power” when a) they’ve only been around for about eight-ten years, and b) the face of rock music hasn’t changed much.

Again, like I said earlier — none of this is personal, just a discussion on music and the differences in our tastes.

By Andrew's Jones

May 15, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

KC: Good point. Who cares about “Tubby”.

Someone last night was talking about how poorly Chuck James has pitched in the past 12-13 starts. Seems to me he was hurt for most of those, wasn’t he? I predict CJ will throw 5-6 innings, with 3 ER’s, and the Braves will win 7-5. You heard it here.

By Renegator

May 15, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Over/Under on number of home runs Chuck James gives up tonight - 2.5

By chris

May 15, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Do you think Boyer is the closer now and not Acosta— at least until Smolz, Gonzalez, and Soriano get back?

Chris from MD

By gobraves

May 15, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

DOB, with the lefty (Hamels) on the mound tonight, what do you think the lineup will be? Thanks.

By Clown Scientist Panda Man Pretend Monster Toucher Hello What Is Porridge, Exactly?

May 15, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Chase,

You like Jimmy Buffet AND Nickleback? Why don’t you go ahead and throw in the Dave Matthews Band for the Triple Crown of douchebagginess?

By MiamiBrave

May 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Granted I don’t get to watch all the games on TV, so I check for updates on my phone and on the comp,

but when the hell was the last time Resop pitched?

this dude has to be gone when our three relievers are activated, right?

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Daybed, Bigchief is right about Resop — I’d expect him to be gone to make room for one of the three big guys coming off the DL….

Chase: No, I don’t have to.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 15, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

MiamiBrave: see my above post regarding Chris Resop.

By KC

May 15, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

When is Phil Stockman going to be called up?

On the season (at Richmond) in 23.1 innings:

0.77 ERA, only 8 hits and 2 runs allowed, with 19 strikeouts.

In his last 10 appearances:

17-1/3 innings… only 4 hits, and no runs allowed.

I don’t know what this guy has to do to beat out Buddy Carlyle or Chris Resop for a roster spot, but… GOOD LORD!!! Get the guy up to Atlanta already!!!!

By Andrew's Jones

May 15, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Music just hasn’t been the same since the days of Sissy and Bobby on The Lawrence Welk Show!

:-(

By flange1

May 15, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Shaun,

There was more than 1 curve hit last night no matter what your stats say.

My point is that the looping belt high or higher curve ball that Boyer was throwing last night is not a good pitch. It is the same type of high looping curveball that got Reitsma into so much trouble.

I like Boyer alot, and I think he should throw all of his pitches, but I think when you are a power pitcher you should pitch like one.

An occasional curve that is low or outside the strike zone is fine, but 2 in a row that are belt high doesn’t work.

I think Smoltz understands what I am saying and that is what he was telling Boyer last night.

There is that better?

By Andrew's Jones

May 15, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

But, Barry Manilow would be my current favorite……

By MiamiBrave

May 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

saw all three resop posts now thanks to DOB pointin em out

thnks

RESOP OUT

which really bothers me because he took Tyler’s spot in the bullpen, I had a personal bias for Yates cause I met him when they were down here and he was real cool and a nice guy but thats how it goes

By Efrim

May 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

KC

Phil Stockman is the secret weapon the Braves plan to bring up in September.

DOB

Any word on Gorkys Hernandez injury?

By DAP

May 15, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

regenerator i say under. chuck gives up two homers, one to howard, one to utley, and manages to only give up 4 runs in 6 innings. diaz has a big game, braves win.

its fun to just make crap up, huh?

clown scientist guy that was really funny.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 15, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Ah, nevermind MiamiBrave — DOB has answered it (regarding Resop).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN SMOLTZ!!!

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

DOB

It was a playful post..in jest…

Remember this about Buffett though…he has 19 Gold and Paltinum records….

and between his tours, album sales, and business ventures he makes over 120 million dollars a year….how many other singers can boast those kind of dollars…especially after being around 35+ years….

By Clown Scientist Panda Man Pretend Monster Toucher Hello What Is Porridge, Exactly?

May 15, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

*Chase,

You like Jimmy Buffet AND Nickleback? Why don’t you go ahead and throw in the Dave Matthews Band for the Triple Crown of douchebagginess?*

Man are you a cool guy…. you are sooo funny and whitty..how can i respond?

By StingerSplash

May 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

KC,

Whose spot is Stockman gonna take? Because there aren’t enough chairs in the bullpen now when Smoltz, Soriano and Gonzalez all get back, and all three could be back at the same time. It’s not likely, but it could happen that way. You’ve got to figure with Gonzo either Ohman or Ring is expendable. Resop you can figure on being dealt or DFA’ed. And you’re still one spot short. There are no Parontos to send back to Richmond. (Isn’t that way Apollo Creed said to Rocky on the beach - there is no Paronto? No? Hmm. Gotta get the ears cleaned out again, I guess.).

By McFann

May 15, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Now defense. Stay sharp, NO errors allowed. None of this double-clutch stuff, just grab the ball and throw it. McCann, no Passed Balls or you will be trying to pass my shoe from your inner cavity. MGL Last Night

McCann has no errors. He has no passed balls.

Know ya said all that last night, but we were out. Just lettin’ ya know, he’s fielding 1.000.

By bravesedandconfused

May 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

DOB, Did you get a chance after the game to ask Brett Myers how to spell “retard”? I understand he finds that funny.

By StingerSplash

May 15, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Saw Buffett years ago on Hilton Head. Good show. Done with him now. Moving on to something a little more not so much variation on a theme. If I wanted to hear the same thing over and over, I’d pull out my old Smithereens stuff. Got friends and family members who are huge Buffett fans. I’m OK in small doses. Off to lunch to hear my CD with “Violet” by Hole followed by Marshall Crenshaw’s “Someday Someway” with a little DBT “Never Gonna Change” thrown in - all sandwiched between Van Halen I and the best of Louis Prima. Is first pitch tonight at 7:05?

By David O'Brien

May 15, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Chase, I really don’t base any of my musical likes and dislikes on how many records an artist sells. Just doesn’t matter one iota to me. Why should it? And “business ventures” and tour revenues … why on earth should I give a rat’s behind? What does that have to do with my enjoyment of an artist?

Tom Waits doesn’t have a chain of stores that sell mass-produced island-themed t-shirts to tourists, and he rarely tours. So does that mean he’s somehow not the “artist” that Buffett is? That’s laughable.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Chase-I think what some are saying is that fame, fortune and popularity doesn’t necessarily mean that a band is all that great musically. One common train of thought is that if the public likes something so much, it points to an innate flaw.

Not saying this is true of any of the bands you mentioned (though I personally only like a few of them), but it is a common theory. E.G.-Many think Rolling Stone is the definitive authority on what is good music. Ordinarily, I think the opposite of what they claim is the true state of things. I’m not alone.

By McFann

May 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

BTW, MGL, I have nothing against your post at 4:30. It was pretty funny, actually.

McCann - two doubles for you, and throw in a walk. If you ground into a double play, I’ll double you over after the game.

Well, he got one double, and hit into a DP. So what should Glavine do? Perhaps with though three RBIs—which could be considered the deciding runs—he’ll let it go this one time.

; )

By 22oz

May 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

I’m listening to the Richmond/Indianapolis game on milb.com. Its kinda funny that both of our starting first baseman (Wilson & Thorman)from the 2007 season are facing off in a AAA game.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Lew, missed your Boyer Reitsam line!

How true!!!

KC, I agree on Stockman! Isn’t it nice to have lots of options in the pen for a change?

By Rob U

May 15, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

DOB, Is it true that Julio Teheran will be called up to Rome after today? And is all the hype around him legit?

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

McFann-I’ve got to go along with you on this one-Brian’s defense has seen considerable improvement over last year. His strength and flexibility program this winter apparently has helped a good bit. Maybe his ankle is less aggravating, as well. Maybe all we klutzes should take yoga. Might just help us, too. Nah.

By Tom Weights

May 15, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

I would prefer to have Jimmy Buffett’s bank account!

By feltsoul

May 15, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

“small change got rained on by his own 38” TW

Aw. buffet fans. i guess there is nothing wrong with background music. different strokes for different folks

By McFann

May 15, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Ah, man! Is it Smoltz’s birthday? Dang, I forgot!

Oh well, Happy B-day, Smoltzie!

By bruce

May 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Why would Rollins use the Geico music, (So easy a caveman could do it) when he comes to the plate? The Phillies announcers were speechless… could only laugh, Tuesday night, then Wednesday they named the tune… its apparently european band.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

RobU-I’m sure DOB will comment, too, but I read a great article about Teheran in Chop Talk a while back and he seems to be the real deal.

He’s extremely young (in his teens-16 or 17), but has good command of several pitches. He has good breaking pitches (plural) and he is projected to throw in the high 90’s to 100. His head seems to be tied on pretty tightly.

He has a good family-Dad plays and coaches and his Uncle is a Braves’ scout. His cousin (Uncle Brave Scout’s son) is also in the minors. They have impressed upon the kid the necessity of no partying and dedication to being a great pitcher-to keep the goal in sight.

The kid bought his family their first middle class home and if he keeps going like he is now, he could well be the next Johan Santana. He is young, though so let’s wait and see. Hopefully his progress will continue and he won’t be brought up to fast and left to develop to the best of his awesome abilities..

By AGTfan

May 15, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

DOB

I don’t understand the comparison between Buffet and Waits. I enjoy both of them. Does the fact that Jimmy Buffet has has all the things you listed make his music less entertaining somehow?

I think that some people tend turn against artists that they once liked after the artist makes it big, as if they are somehow too cool to like the same music that mainstream America likes. I’m not saying that about anyone on this blog! It’s just something I have observed and fallen prey to myself at times.

I’m really happy to get a road win and that Glav got his 1st win as a Brave again, but we still didn’t get any offense after the fifth inning. Oh well, it made it interesting.

By bruce

May 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Rollins music is [“Remind Me” by Royksopp,](http://www.royksopp.com/] on the Remind Me/So Easy release

By DirtyDawg

May 15, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Thought it was funny last night when the Phillies manager pulled Myers who complained that he ‘owned’ Francouer. What would have been even funnier would have been if Charlie Manuel had said, ‘So does everybody else…I’m worried about the rest of their team.’

I’m sorry, JF is just not cuttin’ it. So he got a few hits the other night - dinks and dunks - and although it didn’t make a difference in the end last night, he wienied out following McCann’s double and left him out there - a run the Braves could have used in the ninth.

By Rob U

May 15, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Lew, wait a minute I thought he was a righty? I heard he was getting called up to Rome today I hope its true.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

AGT Fan-DOB wasn’t comparing them musically. He was just pointing out that commercial success (which Buffet has and Waits not so much) was not a determining factor in his enjoyment of Tom Waits music, or his dislike (not trying to put words in his mouth here) of Jimmy.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

flange1, again, not trying to be rude. Just trying to point out the facts the way I see them. You said “Excuse me for making a comment on a curve ball that got CRUSHED almost every time its was thrown last night.” The facts simply don’t support that. Rollins got a groundball single on a curve and Victorino flied out to end the game on a curve. It’s possible that Dobbs’ hit was a curve instead of a change. That’s it. And there were a seemingly high number of called strikes on the curve.

But maybe you don’t care about the facts, judging by this statement: There was more than 1 curve hit last night no matter what your stats say.” It’s fine if you don’t care about the facts. Then you can just ignore my posts and move on.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg-You are aware that the most talented hitter (Chipper’s current streak excepted), fails two thirds of the time? A .333 hitter goes 1 for three-a .250 hitter goes one for four. Francoeur is hitting .277. How far off is that from what would usually be considered a successful hitter? Even the best hitters leave runners on. You’re looking for wood grain in a forest and wondering why you’re running into trees.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Shaun-Fact is that Boyer’s last pitch-whatever it was-was caught for the final out. The Braves won. That is the only fact that matters. Boyer’s save will go into the books without an asterisk saying his curve didn’t work well last night. Neither will there be a notation saying he threw 8 instead of 10 curve balls.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg-To put it more concisely, to bring his average from .277 to .300, Francoeur would need less than two hits every 40 AB. Would he be considered successful then? On this blog? probably not.

By Roman Gal

May 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Re: Jeff Francoeur

I know Frenchy isn’t living up to expectations, but what do you want to do? You want to rest him against a righty (against whom he has struggled) and put Matt Diaz in there (who has struggled as well)? I love Matty (mostly bc of his uniform) but he just isn’t as good as Frenchy. You’d be losing offense and defense. I understand wanting him to take a day off, but do you want to do that while Matt Diaz is struggling so heartily on both sides of the ball?? No offense…it just doesn’t make much sense right now.

By P-Town Brave

May 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Lew

Do you see his point though? What is Frenchy’s SLG compared to Chipper’s..or even Mac’s for that matter?

We aren’t the only one’s harping about Frenchy’s lack of power…have you actually listened to a SportsSouth broadcast and Joe Simpson lately?

By flange1

May 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Shaun,

Did you even watch the game? You told us last year that you watch only parts of parts of the game.

Just because some stats say that 3 curves were hit last night doesn’t make it so. Did you see the game? If you did, you know what I am talking about if you didn’t then we will move on.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Excuse me-Less than two hits MORE every forty AB.

By SoDak Brave

May 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Good point Lew

What do you suppose all those people, who said Blanco would be a good lead-off, would be saying after those ugly strike outs he had last night?

By 22oz

May 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

The broadcasters from the Richmond game just said that Matt DeSalvo will start tommorrow throwing primarily knuckleballs! He said the Braves have decided to turn him into a knuckleball pitcher. That should be interesting…

By DAP

May 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

shaun It’s possible that Dobbs’ hit was a curve instead of a change.

it was definetly, with out a doubt a curveball, man. and it could have been worse than it was, because boyer hung a few. he threw three that got hit very hard, and when youre trying to hold a three run lead in philly, thats too many! based on the way your talking about it, i have figured that you didnt actually see it, so take my word for it, and others who SAW the game, boyer threw too many curveballs. thats a very dangerous pitch if you throw to many, especially in a row like boyer was doing.

By J Buffet

May 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

I’m not saying that about anyone on this blog! It’s just something I have observed and fallen prey to myself at times.chase

I bet there are a lot of such snobs on this board. Obviously anyone who doesn’t love my music is just such a person.

By TennesseePaul

May 15, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Payne: I’m going to have to go with the GameDay F-Up. I’ve watched Gameday and the games on TV side by side now for at least 2 years and GameDay, while it is possible to review and “quantize” the results, is not always a “fact” no matter “how you see it”. GameDay messes up. It will record a sinker as a straight fastball. It will record a hanging curve as a change-up. It will put a slider as a fastball. It will place a called strike, or called ball several feet from where it actually appeared on the tele.
Now, I didn’t get to watch last nights game on TV, but I wouldn’t resort to GameDay as the most accurate source of “facts” when checking out the type of pitch thrown. Half the time it doesn’t record pitch speed and break anyway. It’s sound and solid for reviewing the plays of the games as an overview, but not so much for the details of each individual pitch. Or where the ball lands for that matter. I’ve seen it put a fly to left deep in the bleacher as if it was a climb-the-wall-run-up-the-stands-jump-into-a-hot-dog-vendor-high-five-a-sailor-catch. When in actuallity it was a lazy fly ball to left that the fielder didn’t have to move to catch.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Lew, exactly! Whatever Boyer has been throwing, it’s been working. Kind of silly to criticize a pitcher that has been this good so far in his career.

By TennesseePaul

May 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Oh and I’d concur with Lew, the only out that matters in the long run is the third out of the 9th innings. You know, the one that qued the fat lady to start singing. It’s a win. There were happenings in the game that were good that the team can build off of and there were happenings in the game that the team could stand to learn from.

By Lew

May 15, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

PTown-Yes, I see the point. However, what about Sabathia’s slow start? What about Ryan Howard’s slow start? Frenchy will turn things around in all likelihood. So will those others.

Quite honestly, I’m much more mystified why Tex has not overcome his slow start. We’re expecting much more from him and paying much more for his power. Although, I would bet he turns it around, too.

All in all, considering various slow starts and the rash of injuries we’ve had to the pitching staff, I’m quite pleased with where the Braves are at the moment. Am I happy that some of our stalwarts are off to less than sterling starts? Hell No-I wish all had gotten as hot as Chipper has been. However, I would bet that things will change in our favor and before much longer. I’m an optimistic person when it comes to the Braves, but I’m not naive, either. I know how they are or aren’t producing.

Then again, I kept thinking Andruw would turn his season around until the very end. I guess I can be wrong, too.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Lew,

I thought every piece of information that happened las night would be cataloged and stored in the “OFFICIAL STAT VAULT” for everyone to view from a distance but not touch….

By chase (the original)

May 15, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

DOB

That last comment was more directed at someone else who’s comment implied that I was basically stupid for liking JIMMY BUFFETT and that I was virtually the only one who did…

Pointing out his money and sales was just an effort to show that obviously I am not the only ParrotHead out there…

I agree that money/sales doesn’t mean much…

i’m more of a MOVIE guy and I could care less how much money it makes If I like it….

Obviously a guy who can sustain himself that long, have that many hit songs, pen 5 Best Selling books is obviously a Talented person….

Just like Will Smith…If you can win a GRAMMY and an OSCAR…you are pretty talented…

LEW

I agree with you on the Rolling Stone thing..that is th esame way I feel about many MOVIE review magazines/papers (EW, Variety, LaTimes etc.)

who cares what there critics think?

Last year they all gave the “ZODIAC” an “A” and rave reviews while on the same weekend they blasted “300”…what happened “300” made over 100 mil and “Zodiac” made about 9 mil on that weekend…Proving critics have no clue what people like…the same with the music industry….

To each his own…I’m not asking anyone to like who I like but don’t attack me for liking something…

By Lew

May 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

PTown-One more thing Dude-You can’t compare ANYONE to Chipper right now. I’m not so sure Ted Williams in his prime would outshine him at the moment.

What I think is Frenchy’s problem is this-he’s conflicting himself. He started his career hitting for good power. Last season he made great strides in patience and situational hitting-going to right with two strikes. He was quite successful with this approach and knocked in a lot of runs.

In the offseason he worked to get his power back-something many griped heartily about. Now he’s not sure if he’s coming or going. He’s not hitting situationally OR for power. Personally, I’d like to see the higher BA, situational Francoeur than Frenchy his hit a Home Run or Strike out personna.

BTW-Has anyone noticed that Frenchy is on pace for another 100 RBI season?

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

flange1, I honestly didn’t see a lot of Boyer’s portion of the game as I was occupied and only half watching. I did see some of it and saw his curve working very well to get some called strikes. I also am relying on MLB.com’s Gameday (which I wouldn’t call stats, per se). I’m assuming Gameday is at least fairly reliable. If it’s even somewhat reliable, it seems to refute the fact that the curve got crushed every time it was thrown. It got “crushed” maybe once, if Gameday misinterpreted a curve as a change. It got “crushed” none if Gameday did not misinterpret the change.

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

DAP and TennPaul, point taken. And I have actually heard before that Gameday is not the most reliable thing. But it would have to be off a lot in order to say every curve Boyer threw got “crushed.”

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Let’s look at how many of Boyer’s pitches got “crushed” last night:

Coste hit a line-drive single.

Dobbs hit a line-drive single (on a curve).

Rollins hit a grounder that found a hole. I don’t consider that crushed.

Victorino hit a deep fly ball to right. (I just watched that on espn.com and it was a curve.)

Something to consider: Victorino’s fly-out may have been fairly routine in most parks.

Not sure how it could be possible that every curve was crushed when only two, maybe three pitches he threw all night were crushed. Did he only throw two or three curves?

My point: I wouldn’t mess with success. And Boyer has been a successful major league pitcher.

By DAP

May 15, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

shaun i wouldnt say any of them were crushed, either, they were all hit pretty hard though, even rollins’ grounder was a screamer. im sure boyer will take smoltz’s advice and adjust accordingly. i like boyer alot. he shows promise.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Shaun,

You are really amazing.

What do you think about what Smoltz said to Boyer?

Should Smoltz shut up and let you tell Boyer that all is OK?

By Shaun

May 15, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Smoltz probably knows more than any of us about pitching. By all means, of course he should be sharing knowledge with Boyer and Boyer should listen.

I’m more critical of those on the blog who think Boyer doesn’t know as much as them about pitching as they do. Or who don’t realize what Boyer has done because they are paying attention to his ERA or to what happened on one or two of his pitches in a game.

By P-Town Brave

May 15, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Lew

I agree w/ all of what you are saying, but IMO, I think Frenchy has a serious hitch in his swing, which causes him to lose his power…

Being that I’m not a vault of swing info, I can not myself go back to when he broke into the league to see if that hitch is there or something he has developed into…

That being said, I do recall his 1st hr in the bigs being to right-center and that tells me that if he can stay behind the ball better than he has been and correct the hitch, he can develop power the opposite way.

A young guy such as David Wright would come to mind, but I believe at this point, he is in a league of his own at his age when it comes to power numbers.

I would be happy w/ Jeff is either he hit close to .300 and had around 20 hr’s BUT if he hit closer to .275, I would want that number to be spot on at 30 HR.

Either way you look at it, from a 05 prospect standpoint, he has under-produced and Mac has shot past him…

I will say one thing…It makes Jeff look worse just for the simple fact that we have Mac to compare him to as they broke in close to the same time and the fact that Jeff was considered far and away a better prospect than B-Mac was.

By keylargo

May 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

I’ve heard all the criticism I want to hear about Boyer. He got the last 4 outs in the defending NL East Champions’ Ballpark and gave up one run. The last was a flyball to the warning track that would have been routine at Turner Field. Find something else - this was a save - and a win.

By TJ

May 15, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Mets lose 1-0. The odds may be against it, but a win tonight would put us past the Mets and tied with Philly.

On Boyer, keep in mind that he should be pitching the 6th or 7th, not the 9th. Kinda like James last year… pushed to a bigger role than he should be playing, by injuries.

18 hits, 4 BB and 25 K’s in less than 24 innings, and a WHIP of under 1… are you kidding? He might need to learn some things, but he’s got great stuff.

By Savannah Guy

May 15, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Smoltz probably knows more than any of us about pitching.

You think? Really?

By Savannah Guy

May 15, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Jimmy Buffet is to music what LeRoy Neiman is to art… commercially successful, shallow, meaningless tripe created for those that never developed much of an ear for music or an eye for art.

So there.

By flange1

May 15, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Shaun,

You said (directed to me)”I’m more critical of those on the blog who think Boyer doesn’t know as much as them about pitching as they do. Or who don’t realize what Boyer has done because they are paying attention to his ERA or to what happened on one or two of his pitches in a game.

This whole mess was because I said “Does the high curve ball from Boyer remind anyone else of Chris Reitsma?

When you have a 96 MPH fastball and a pretty good slider and you are a relief pitcher, why not drop that curve ball or NEVER throw it for a strike?

Never did I say ANYTHING about ERA nor that I know more about pitching than Boyer.

What I said was that his curveball was not the best last night and that he should rely on his power pitches.

Don’t confuse your arguments with others about Boyer with me.

I actually like Boyer. I believe that if he and Acosta would pitch more like power pitchers that both would get better results.

In my viewing of both of them pitching, it appears to me that they get in trouble when they start throwing their curves up in the zone and and when they start nibbling with their hard stuff.

By MGL

May 16, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

RE Commenting is open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. M-F - Apparantly, AJC management has decided that the conduct of certain bloggers after business hours has deteriorated the quality of the blog. Since all posts must now be screened, only posts during business hours will be accepted.

By Santa3247

May 17, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Hi, I’m Seong-Ho,Yoon living in Sea of Glass(Jinhae) southkorea

Today I want to talk about Crazy Bobby Cox.

Now he is giving 70% chance of starting playing LF to head-up man Gregor Blanco, and giving 30% chance of starting playing LF to consecutive years .AVG over .330 and tied with Derek Jeter only.

Today If he would change Gregor Blanco to Matt Diaz Braves could win.

He is insane. Coward for old age. Do you want to live to over 100years old? Always Red-dragon Babylonian bully coward pleasantly.

“Baseball need 9players and one spy can fail game” but, now Bobby Cox making Braves devastated. Fire him!!!

May the force of Messiah be with you