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By richbrave

May 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Poor on the road and great at home. Better be great somewhere if you want to aspire to anything other than last place.

By no 1

May 6, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

no 1

By Train Wreck Bystander

May 6, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

I read last night where the Dodgers had set AJ up with an eye exam… grasping at straws, methinks.

By GeorgetownKid

May 6, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand Chipper’s total lack of national attention. While he doesn’t play in New York, Boston, Chicago, or LA, he doesn’t play in Anchorage, Alaska either.

He plays in Atlanta, one of the 6 biggest metropolitan areas in the country for a team that is among the more prominent in baseball and that has a respectable national following. He is a very familiar name even to casual baseball fans.

Yet, despite the fact that he is proving himself to be the single best all-around hitter in the world, he might as well not exist to ESPN and other national outlets.

By brent a.

May 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Good information.

Looking forward to sweeping the Pads.

Go Braves!

By Calvin

May 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

11-4 and 4-11 = 30 games played Mr. O’Brien. Meaning, tonights game is their 31st of the young season.

By ElbravoX-- EbX

May 6, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Dirty Jersey!

By What's This Column Doing on the Braves' Page?

May 6, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Good call on Greg Norton, Coach.

I’m totally sure that mr baseball and Captain Cakeman have already phoned to give you your props.

By Shaun

May 6, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Seven of the Braves’ nine one-run losses have come on the road.

Since Opening Day of last season they are 12-8 in one-run home games (this is the typical home one-run winning percentage). They are 6-26 in one-run road games, the worst in baseball. A typical one-run road winning percentage (all MLB teams 1901-2008) is .388.

By David

May 6, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

I realize it’s no bluckbuster, but I’m curious about this Norton guy we just picked - Wren mentioned in the article that the Braves had been looking at him since spring training, which makes me think the guys got some upside. But he’s bounced around a bit, which makes me skeptical.

By N8

May 6, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

COPIED AND PASTED from the previous blog (as to continue/begin my argument of the day with Shaun)

Shaun

“N8, did anyone ever say “EVERYTHING” is a crap-shoot? If so, where? Find it, please.”

Uhhh…. EVERY TIME the Braves lose a playoff series (which happens a LOT), Bobby states that “these things are just a crap-shoot”.

Besides. You’re the one using the “luck” comment more than anybody on this blog combined.

I don’t believe that the Braves are unlucky in close games. I believe that they are typically outplayed, out-managed, and in general, just not very good.

Willy Wally

“Geez, what the hell was that all about?…You saw my meaningless stat and decided to counter it with a meaningless stat of your own?”

For starters. I obviously didn’t catch your sarcasm while stating your stats on Frenchy were “incrdible”. So I was stating what he does on the first pitch.

As for it being a “meaningless” stat?

Uhhh…how about…NO?

The guy swings at the first pitch A LOT!. In the past, he has had much success by swinging at the first pitch. Thus, Bobby and TP have stated they didn’t want to “take away his aggressiveness”.

Well this year, he’s not doing so hot on the first pitch. He’s making outs more often than not on the first pitch.

So my point was, that while he’s NOT striking out as much, at least in the past, he made pitchers pitch at least 3 pitches to get him out.

I was going to post more stats, but chose not to. Forgot what they were already, but the oddity of it all, is that he has a HORRIBLE batting average when he’s ahead 1-0 or 2-0 in the count as well.

So ultimately with Francoeur, it’s about pitch recognition. When he guesses correctly (or the pitcher makes a mistake), he gets hits.

But clearly, he’s still not as selective as say, Chipper. But then again, Chipper is gonna be in the HOF some day, and Jeff, more than likely will not be. So that isn’t a fair comparison.

That being said, Francoeur reminds me VERY much of a young Andruw Jones. Let’s hope that he doesn’t start emulating the 31 year old AJ, any time soon.

By PrincetonBrave

May 6, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

All the Chipper coverage I need is my eyes gazing at the autographed chipper jones rookie card on my dresser.

By Yars

May 6, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

GeorgetownKid….I agree with your comments on Chipper. I will say this, if he is still hitting over .400 in early July, & the Braves are in 1st, the mainstream/national media will have to talk about him & give him the same props that their darlings the Mets, Yanks, & BoSox receive on a daily basis. now playing: black cat by ladytron.

By MGL

May 6, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Calvin — Good of you to correct Mr. O’Brien’s atrocious number error. Now I can correct GeorgetownKid - Atlanta is the 9th largest MSA.

By eric the elder

May 6, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

*A change in the weather is known to be extreme

But what’s the sense of changing horses in midstream?

I’m going out of my mind, oh, oh* Dylan

Me, too.

By Shaun

May 6, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe that the Braves are unlucky in close games. I believe that they are typically outplayed, out-managed, and in general, just not very good.

Well, if they are outplayed, out-managed and not very good in one-run games, why aren’t they in 2-run games? In games decided by 2 or more? Doesn’t make any sense.

I understand that maybe they have certain characteristics that work against them in one-run games. But it’s hard for me to believe that a team that has been as successful as they have been in every other game (even one-run games at home) hasn’t been unlucky in a lot of close games.

By Bring Me the Head of Francisco Cabrera

May 6, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

This is what I don’t get: People criticize folks who look at in-depth stats because they view humans like robots. But then if you bring up the randomness of the game, then you are criticized for bringing up chance, luck and randomness.

That’s not at all why I think you’re full of crap, Shaun. It’s your COMPLETE disregard for the human element in the game that I object to. You DO view humans like robots. A few months ago you made the ludicrous statement that any player put in a similar situation would have had intestinal fortitude and courage to do what Kirk Gibson did in the 1988 World Series, when in fact, what makes Gibson’s feat all the more impressive and memorable is that practically no one else would have even tried.

By the same token, you must believe that any pitcher could have gutted it out as long as John Smoltz has with the pain in his pitching arm. Wrong. All human beings, and therefore all baseball players, are different, and bring intangible factors with them onto the field that cannot be quantified or written off to chance and luck.

This failing in you explains why you still have your panties in a wad over Jimmy Rollins winning MVP. Well, he won because enough folks who vote on the award recognize the intangibles Rollins (like Gibson in 1988, as well as Jackie Robinson in his day) brings to his team, and aren’t simply slaves to the stat sheet.

In-depth stats can be very telling, and they help you to illustrate some very good points on this blog sometimes. But stats are never gonna tell you everything. And everything they don’t tell can’t simply be written off to randomness and luck. Games and seasons and championships (and MVP awards, even) are never won or lost on paper. Watch Jimmy Rollins play, and maybe then you’ll understand. Go back and watch films of Kirk Gibson scoring from second base on a wild pitch to win a game and fire up his team, and maybe then you’ll understand. Listen to Jackie Robinson’s contemporaries and how, even today, they speak with awe about how his uncanny instincts and baserunning ability absolutely unnerved opposing pitchers and defenses, and maybe then you’ll understand.

But I doubt it.

By Willy Wally

May 6, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

N8, 15 plate appearances swinging at the first pitch is such a meaningless stat, it is laughable that you have defended the use of it.

You’re better than that ……. you sound kind of desperate to complain about something, anything.

Historically, Frenchy has great numbers swinging on the first pitch. All of his numbers are phenomenal in all counts until he gets two strikes on him during his career.

But he’s turned around his performance so far this year with two strikes and his OPS has jumped 200 points early this season with 2 strikes.

Should I be ridiculous and harp on that improvement with such a small sample size (that is actually bigger than the sample size for first pitch swinging that you cited)?

No, of course not.

N8, you’re too good of a complainer to act this desperate to find something to complain about.

By bigchiefrg

May 6, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

I think it would make an even better case for Chipper if you threw in pertinent fielding statistics into those numbers. I would be interested in those as well.

What makes his hitting the most amazing in my book is that he is a power switch hitter. How are those numbers feasible?

And does anyone want to take a guess who starts the all-star game?

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

David, at 35 Norton doesn’t have “upside.” He is what he is, a good switch-hitting power bat off the bench who strikes out a lot but is a definite upgrade over what they’ve got on the bench.

And he’s not bad in the field, can play the four corners (OF and INF) without hurting you much.

By GeorgetownKid

May 6, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Yars

I would hope that it wouldn’t take until July. In 2 weeks, the Braves will have played over 40 games, which means that 25% of the season will be complete.

If Chipper is still well over .400 after one-fourth of the season, I would like to think that people would start taking notice.

While it would still be too early to start talking seriously about a possible .400 season, batting over .415 after nearly 2 full months would be enough for fans to start thinking about the possibility.

By N8

May 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

GeorgetownKid

You people that claim east-cost bias and the media this, media that, need to wake up.

Chipper gets PLENTY of national coverage. He GOT plenty of national coverage when the Braves were putting up pennants every year, celebrating their 14 division titles.

Mike Vick played in Atlanta, didn’t he??? Even before the dog-fighting crap, he got PLENTY of coverage.

What about the Big Three? You couldn’t pick up a magazine or publication in the 90’s that didn’t START with raving about the Braves trio of starting pitchers.

You wanna know what will get Chipper “more coverage”??? The Braves winning games.

Period.

The NFL schedule came out a couple of weeks ago, and for the 2nd year in a row, my Chiefs have ZERO “prim-time” broadcasts of their games.

The fans in KC on their message boards are crying “Patriots this, Giants that, Colts this, Packers that”. Saying that ESPN only likes those teams.

Uh… ESPN is in the market to MAKE MONEY. Why on earth WOULDN’T they show as much Cowboys, Packers, Patriots, Colts, Steelers, and now Giants as possible??

Or does somebody REALLY want to see a Chiefs/Falcons game on MNF, anytime soon? Maybe ESPN can show the Royals and Pirates game, when inter-league games begin (not sure if they actually play each-other - but you get my point).

Mark it down. If the Braves start winning, they’ll get some “coverage” on the national sports highlight shows and publications.

In fact, I’ll take it one step further…..If they make the playoffs, they’ll get a WHOLE BUNCH of nationally broadcast games come October. I promise.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Good to see the dude who used to play the gang leader on The Shield now a regular on Law & Order as the new detective….

Anyone see this on Buster’s blog?

“Heard this: Rafael Furcal wants to re-sign with the Dodgers, but if he does not have a new deal by midseason, he will test the market in the fall. He’s 30 and is going to be expensive; he will command the type of deal that few teams can afford. He’d be perfect fit for the Red Sox, with his .453 on-base percentage, if Boston looks to supplant Julio Lugo.”

Who was it that disputed my suggestion that Furcal would command $15 mill or more in a three-year deal?

Still think Braves have a shot to get him cheaper than other teams, if they have any desire. But yes, I’d sign Teixeira if he’s at all affordable. Braves’ new ownership says it’s willing to spent money. We’ll see….

By BossLady

May 6, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

During that 14 year span of wins and dominant pitching the Braves were not liked very much by other teams and players. The lot of most of them who Braves pitching and winning stopped from post season and career changing games.

These are the guys on ESPN, FSN, SportsCenter and Baseball Tonight. They hated the Braves then and now. They’ll be darned if they give anything to them.

When you have a Dynasty (in any field) you will be hated and the ones that hate you have lonnng memories.

By 22oz

May 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Norton will only need to play 3 corners, since Francouer will never come out of right field. Ever. Ever ever ever. And ever. Look out Cal!

By McFann

May 6, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Andruw is a majors-worst 1-for-25 (.040) with runners in scoring position, and a league-worst 4-for-48 (.083) with runners on base.

Thanks for that stat, Chief. Made me feel much better about a certain-something that you all know about.

8 )

BossLady—

Good point at 1:53. It’s actually somewhat fun to root for a team that all those “Big Shots” loathe and despise!

By GeorgetownKid

May 6, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

N8

I never said anything about “east coast bias”, nor did I say anything of the sort.

I did imply that the national media has a Yankees/Red Sox bias. But even that shouldn’t be called a “bias” because those are the 2 teams with, by far, the largest national followings. If ESPN talked about the Royals, the Blue Jays, and the Devil Rays as much as they talked about the Yankees and the Dodgers, fewer people would watch ESPN.

That being said, I believe that Chipper’s current season, one in which he is hitting over .420 nearly one-fourth into the season, is deserving of at least as much attention as Steinbrenner’s latest silly statement. Not only is Chipper Jones putting up unparalleled statistics, Chipper is a marquee name playing for a large-market team.

But, that’s just my 2 cents. I’ll climb down off my soapbox.

By TURTSNAP

May 6, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

I am still scratching my head that the Braves picked up a player yesterday that strikes out an average of 1 out of every 4 at bats. Is he Dave Kingman’s son? :O)

By Mike

May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

I’m going to be completly honest.The Braves don’t have a chance in the division or any other division if they don’t get competitive in the free agent market.They sit back and watch teams sign top free agents and expect to win.The Braves have been throughly overated all these yrs, they just play for division titles not championships they really don’t have chance.GO RED SOX!!!

By N8

May 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Willy Wally

“N8, you’re too good of a complainer to act this desperate to find something to complain about.”

Uhh…thanks. LOL!

I wasn’t really complaining. Just putting the numbers up there (be it a small sample, but none the less, that small sample of numbers has contributed to some pretty horrible AB’s in some rally killing moments. Disagree?

It’s still about pitch selection. Period. He’s gotten better, but there is a TON of room for improvement.

I don’t care if over 1000 AB’s he’s hitting .400 on the first pitch, that doesn’t mean he is REQUIRED to swing at it. If I’m a pitcher, I don’t throw him ANYTHING close to the strike zone in the first 2 pitches of an AB.

1) He’s shown, he’s too itchy with the trigger finger to consistently take walks, especially in RBI situations.

2) Odds are, you’re STILL gonna get a strike on him, if you throw a slider or another breaking ball off the plate, in the first 2 pitches, thus putting him in a hole from the get go.

I’m not arguing that he hasn’t had success on the first pitch. As I’ve stated before, oddly enough this season, he’s hitting in the .100’s with a 1-0 or 2-0 count (allegedly GREAT hitters counts). Which means, that even though a pitcher is behind in the count to him, they KNOW that they don’t have to throw him a strike.

I have no problem with the first pitch swinging, if he recognizes the pitch and location and drives the ball where it’s pitched. But when he flails at the first pitch (trying to PULL a HR into the upper deck on a low and away pitch), that is frustrating to watch.

Also, when McCann, Tex and Chipper before him have worked the count, and gotten walks, and (or) a pitcher is wild and out of control, and he hits a ground-ball DP, by swinging at the first pitch, it just shows his impatience.

I think he’s on the right path. I’d rather see him become a contact hitter (doubles and gap hitter), and allow his natural power to shine through, than have him hacking for the fences and getting his 30 HR, that so many Braves fans seem to be upset about (his “loss” of power).

In fact, if you remember many of his first HR’s when he came up, most of them were line drives from Left Center to Right Center.

It was the next year, when he was trying to live up to the expectations of the SI Cover “Golden Boy”, that he started hacking at EVERYTHING and trying to pull it.

Once he realizes how good he is, and gets it under control, he’ll be one helluva player. Until then, he’ll be what he has been.

Good, not great at the plate, and inconsistent in his production.

By OrlandoFan

May 6, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

DOB: Sorry about the dog and the pictures. Been there, done that (at least with the pictures, not the dog), guy. Not a fun thing to endure. But you live and learn, sometimes.

I think this dismal 1-run-loss record is overrated. To me, in baseball, almost every game is a 1-run game. If you’re leading 3-2 in the 7th and add a run or 2, to me that’s winning a 1-run game. If you’re trailing 7-4 in the 9th and get 2 and lose 7-6, is that really any different? I think it’s more important to look at come-from-behind and hold-the-lead games. If you get ahead early and hold on, great. If you fall behind early and come back, great. Otherwise, the margin of victory or defeat really is irrelevant in this sport. There’s no run-differential tiebreaker. Losing 4-3 a couple of time a week just feels bad. But does it feel worse than losing 10-3 a couple of times a week? I think not. Somewhat related: My basketball team, the Orlando Magic, were hosed out of a game last night (yeah, they contributed to that, too), and that feels a whole lot worse than their getting drubbed on Saturday (when the seemed to be in Lansing while the game was in Detroit). But I digress. The 1-run games really are only bad when you enter the late innings winning and then lose.

By Greg

May 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

I’m actually starting to feel bad about Andruw. I was never a huge fan of his hitting style. It always seemed to be all or nothing. And I’ve always thought he was lazy and uncoachable. And his plate discipline is awful. But wow! He really is struggling. Maybe he should let LA send him down to the minors for a chance to recover his stroke. I think it’s either that or retire. He’s awful right now.

By Earl

May 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Great song, DOB. Great song from a great album.

Don’t know what to make of Norton yet, I’m afraid this might have Craig Wilson written all over it. It’s a good thing Norton walks, otherwise he just has a little power, and it’s hard to hit home runs coming off the bench.

By N8

May 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Georgetown Kid

Fair enough. I didn’t mean for that whole rant to be directed at you. I just don’t get why people don’t “get” what a network like ESPN is all about.

Similar to MTV with showing music, ESPN stopped reporting on sports YEARS ago.

That being said, you are right about Chipper. His numbers are astounding. But I stand by my theory of the team winning. If the Braves were 20-10, and in first place, the Braves (and Chipper) would be the lead-in on Baseball tonight, more often than not.

You haven’t seen anybody raving about JJJ on Baseball tonight, yet when Smoltz was put on the DL, that was “news”.

Difference is, outside of Braves fans (and maybe Tigers fans), nobody on the planet knows who JJJ is. You would have had to be in a coma (or not born) to NOT know who Smoltz is.

But either way, I apologize for appearing to be ripping on you and only you.

By Nashbrave

May 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Dave:

I have a dog named Larry (named after the stooge, not Chipper). Losing him might have been worse than the wife eh? My wife and I are fine but it’d be a cold day in hell before I let anyone walk off with this dog.

By GeorgetownKid

May 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

N8, No worries. I’m just a humble Braves fan who likes to see his team on ESPN. And, in my opinion, the fad that is “Red Sox nation” is more than a little annoying.

By Chipper's First Wife

May 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

I also had a dog named Larry that got stolen by a woman.

By Shaun

May 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Bring Me the Head of Francisco Cabrera,

I don’t recall saying “any player put in a similar situation would have had intestinal fortitude and courage to do what Kirk Gibson did in the 1988 World Series, when in fact, what makes Gibson’s feat all the more impressive and memorable is that practically no one else would have even tried.”

But I do think if a player was the best hitter on his team, was injured, and his manager called on him to bat as the winning run in the World Series, I would think a vast majority of players would have tried. To me that doesn’t make what he did any less impressive.

And you are certainly right. There are intangibles that can’t be measured. But I assume that if 46 players made outs less frequently than Rollins and fourteen players slugged higher than Rollins, his leadership doesn’t overshadow the fact that he didn’t play up to the level of other candidates.

Don’t get me wrong. Rollins wasn’t a bad selection, but was he really the best candidate? What about Holliday? Better OPS and it’s hard to believe he was a worse leader. How about Helton? What about Carlos Lee? What about any of the 22 guys who posted better OPS? How do we have any clue that they were worse leaders than Rollins and bad enough in leadership to balance out any edge in production?

Quite easy to say leadership was the reason, when you don’t have to provide any evidence that he was actually a better leader than the four guys who finished ahead of him in runs created or the 22 guys who finished ahead of him in OPS?

By N8

May 6, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Boss Lady

Your 1:53 post is ignorant at best.

John Kruk? Last time I checked HIS Phillies knocked the Braves out of the play-offs in 93.

Steve Phillips? Of ANYBODY on ESPN who should despise the Braves, it’s him. His Mets couldn’t beat them to save their azzes. So how does he respond in your theory of “long memories”, when making predictions this spring? Yeah. He picked the Braves to win the East.

Phillips has BIG TIME respect for the Braves and JS.

Gammons? The dude is from Boston. Oh well. Too bad for him. But didn’t he pick the Braves to go to the WS this year? Even AFTER the Mets traded for Johan?

Who exactly is on a network highlight show that is “bitter” towards the Braves?

Besides. I thought EVERYBODY in baseball loves Bobby Cox? If you despise the Braves, then you despise Bobby Cox, right? Didn’t somebody respond something similar to that (actually it was that if you disliked Bobby Cox, than you dislike the Braves).

So which is it? Everbody in MLB (and out of MLB, now on TV), loves Bobby and the Braves, or the opposite?

By TennesseePaul

May 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

DOB: Still think Braves have a shot to get him cheaper than other teams, if they have any desire

I don’t know DOB. You may have spoken with him or his agent and picked up on some hint of a “discount” but Furcal really didn’t seem interested in such matters the last time around. Granted, the Dodgers offered twice as much annually as the Braves but less years. Still, I’d imagine Furcal will take the money again this off season. Especially considering that a team able to afford the speculated amounts is probably a perennial contender in addition to being filthy rich. It’ll be a choice between a lot of money and a chance to win or less money and maybe a chance to win.

By Cecil34

May 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

DOB

Great blog - I enjoy hearing Chipper’s stats….kinda takes the edge off a lackluster start. I love great hitters.

The road stats indicate to me that this team does not respond well in cooler temps.

Most of the road games in April were in some cities with truly miserable weather.

Probably no small reason John’s shoulder isn’t feeling good.

Baseball should be played in warm weather, but alas, it unfortunately isn’t due to a long season and post-season.

Anyway, perhaps now that we are getting into some warmness, the Braves will respond with more success on the road.

Do not give up on this team - yet. The real report card will come in by June 1.

By MiamiBrave

May 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

I’m sure people have commented,

but just wanted to say

IF we can land a guy who can stabilize this rotation, either a front end guy or a good middle guy since Smoltzie is headed to the bullpen

I think we got a shot, because this bullpen could look scary in the 7th inning of games going Gonzo, Soriano, Smoltz to close out games, you aren’t gonna lose many 1 run leads with those guys closing things out

add the hitting that should be there, things hinge on starting pitching once the bullpen gets healthy minus Moylan obviously

GO BRAVOS

By McFann

May 6, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Neight—

Excellent points made in you 2:13 post about Francoeur. I especially agree with:

Also, when McCann, Tex and Chipper before him have worked the count, and gotten walks, and (or) a pitcher is wild and out of control, and he hits a ground-ball DP, by swinging at the first pitch, it just shows his impatience.

By kdbanks

May 6, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB,

Went and paid your buddy Don at Ella Guru a visit this weekend, and picked up 3 CD’s. What, you can take all his Dewey Cox stickers but can’t get an autograph for his daughter? For shame…

KDB

By Billy

May 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Think about how much better Chipper’s stats since June 2006 would be if he didn’t have Andruw batting .220 behind him most of those games.

By ernesto

May 6, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Funny Tom Waits bit introducing new summer tour.

enjoy! and PEHTSKJMBA!!!

(http://www.tonypierce.com/blog/2008/05/tom-waits-announces-summer-tour-with.htm)

By ncscoots

May 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

30, 31…fellas, maybe you just haven’t been around these environs long enough to recognize DOB Math when you see it, LOL.

DOB Math is a long-recognized and often-hailed institution here, along with banana pudding, leotard-strapping, and, oh by the way, Diane Lane.

By OrlandoFan

May 6, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

N8… Insult aside, good response on teh ESPN crew. I agree. They respect the Braves.

Chipper plays today in the shadow of David Wright ONLY because Wright plays in NY. If the roles were reversed, Wright would be in the shadow. It’s the tree (Wright) that shades Chipper from the limelight, not the Sun itself failing to seek him out. Too many metaphors.

Anyway, Chipper is at his best these days.

By TennesseePaul

May 6, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Payne: What about any of the 22 guys who posted better OPS?

I’ve seen your argument against Rollins for some time now. I don’t recall who it was but I do recall the ESPN or SI analyst being asked why Rollins deserved the award over other players who had strong statistical offensive numbers. His response was fairly solid I believe. He said the MVP isn’t an individual achievement award in its entirety. They already have such awards for offense, defense and pitching. The award is more than OPS, OBP, SLG, AVG, HR, RBI, and so forth. Sounded reasonable to me.

As for “How do we have any clue that they were worse leaders than Rollins”
If I’m not mistaken, the sports writers vote on this award. These would be the people that have access to the players and team and so forth all season long. I would venture a guess that these people, the actual voters for this award, would have a clue as to who was a better leader or had a more important impact on his team.

Just the two cents I have in my pocket on the matter. As for the Phillies. I’m not sure you can count them out even with the pitching questions. They have 2 MVP’s in their infield and Chase Utley is making a strong early case for winning it this year… Great infield. Dare I say, even better than the Mets Reyes/Wright combo sent from the heavens and made of gold, frankincense and mir. At least that’s what I’ve read…

By bigchiefrg

May 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

DAM!!!!! N8 is on top of his game today….Stone cold killer. Great arguments….Asassin like. Bravo!

By fleming

May 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Liked the Norton pickup. After watching Prado tring to play first base when Tex was run for and with Chipper needing the occasional off day, it looks like good cheap insurance to me. At least until Infante makes it back.

Oh BTW. What’s up with Kelly Johnson. Hasn’t it been proved by micro stats time and again on this blog that Johnson can’t hit and should be batting 8th. Also why is Blanco and Kotsey hitting the ball. Didn’t those same micro stats that people on this blog use prove that they shouldn’t be playing but Anderson called up and playing instead? One of these days the stat kings might realize that micro stats doesn’t prove anything except what happened in a short period of time and in no way can be used as a predictor of things to come.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008)

May 6, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Dave O’Brien thanks for the new blog and all those stats, it’s lots to chew on.

I had a crazy if not altogether caffeine/coffee fueled thought last night at work.

IF the Braves are in playoff contention come July.

If they need another arm.

If the Padres are buried in the standings(I’m betting they will be).

The odds of Atlanta trying to bring Mad Dog back are not all that remote.

He is playing under the last year of his current contract and he has the no trade clause which would give the Braves a leg up on competition for the services of Greg Maddux.

Should the Braves and Padres hook up, make the trade and bring Maddux back for the last two months of this season. The Braves would be responsible for about 3.3 million of Mad Dog’s 10 million 2008 contract plus incentives.

I know, it’s way to early for trade speculation. But, somehow I wanted to put it out there for the Braves brain trust to chew on.

By Fanncoeur

May 6, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

McFann, McCann has swung at more first pitches and is worse than Frenchy on the first pitch swings.

McCann has rolled his fat a@@ into more double plays than Frenchy this year

He stole two ribbies from Frenchy last week by clogging the basepaths with his hefty self

It’s nice to see McCann take more walks this year though. That .320 OBP last year was atrocious.

It was also pretty humiliating last year to have our rightfielder nab as many baserunners as our catcher.

It’s only a matter of time until his fat body wilts under the hot summer sun and he starts allowing wild pitches and passed balls galore like he did when it got hot last year.

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

DETROIT — As first reported by Scott Miller of CBSSports.com, JACQUE JONES was cut Monday by the Detroit Tigers, who had promised a lineup shakeup going into a homestand against the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees.

By Shamus Thacker

May 6, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Chipper is the present day Ted Williams.

Ted ain’t in too gooda shape though. Seems they accidentally allowed his head to thaw, then just flung it back in the freezer. The removal of his noggin was a mistake in the first place.

By Shaun

May 6, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

TennesseePaul, it’s always good to have reasonable discussions with you. Not folks who twist your arguments into something so they can make their point.

To answer you, I do think the MVP is an individual award. An individual wins it. It’s which individual player is most valuable.

Regarding knowing who is a better leader. How does a sports writer in San Diego or LA have a clue how valuable Rollins’ leadership was to the Phillies? Seems only the team beat writer could speak to the leadership value of players he sees everyday.

Plus, what about the possibility that leadership at least partly shows up in the statistics? Did anyone check to see if the Phillies’ statistics were better than what we would have reasonable expected? If so, was this because of Rollins?

Holliday, Wright, Fielder and Ramirez all had better years statistically than Rollins. Isn’t it kind of strange that the voters just guessed that Rollins leadership and production added up to more than the leadership and production of those four players? If they didn’t guess, what method did they use?

By MGL

May 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Is Norton already in Atlanta ready to play tonight if called upon??

By Shaun

May 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

ESPN is biased—biased towards the almighty dollar. That’s why they seem to cover the Yankees and Red Sox so much. Whether it’s true or not, the perception is that covering those two teams will make them more money.

And it’s hard to refute that given that Yankees-Red Sox regular season games get more viewers than some NBA playoff games, from what I’ve heard.

By Pete H.

May 6, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

I wonder if any player who has hit 40, much less 50, home runs in his career has EVER started a season with Andruw’s “slugging percentage.” There are pitchers in this league that have better stats than he does. Heck, there’s probably one or two in the AL.

Well, the Dodgers got a good one from us. This makes us even, sort of.

By McFann

May 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Fanncoeur

Wow. You are one angry camper.

Francoeur’s current OBP isn’t very good, either, do-do.

Actually, the only thing you said that made sense was:

• It’s nice to see McCann take more walks this year though.*

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

kdbanks, gonna give Francoeur and a few guys who loved that movie the “America Loves Cox” bumperstickers. Pretty funny stuff (the stickers; I haven’t seen the movie, other than snippets during the multiple showings it’s gotten in clubhouses on the road with the Braves this year)

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Need to go wash my face and get the smog burn out of my nose, if possible, before going to clubhouse. Coming down the interstate at 80 mph, it was harsh between the tiny pebbles that trucks were kicking up and the haze over Atlanta (though not as bad a smog coverage as they predicted today; not the brown layer we get often in summer)

By DAP

May 6, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

N8 some pretty horrible AB’s in some rally killing moments. Disagree

yes, i disagree. a rally killer, he is not. he is a lifetime .328 hitter with a .904 OPS with RISP.

He’s shown, he’s too itchy with the trigger finger to consistently take walks, especially in RBI situations.

why would you want to walk in an rbi situation? and 25% of his walks have come with runners in scoring position. overall, id say he is a much better hitter with runners on.

By Tom in NYC

May 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll ask again, is Escobar feeling better and will he be starting tonight?

By Fanncoeur

May 6, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

When you take away pitcher’s pickoffs, Frenchy has thrown out as many baserunners in his career as McPortly.

Who will nab more baserunners in their career? Frenchy or McChubby?

Probably Frenchy ‘cause if McCurly Fries continues to fail like that, they’ll have to trade him to an AL team so that he can DH.

By Reid in EAV

May 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Man, nobody writes kiss-off songs like ol’ Zimmy, do they? Wow, spot on.

As for Norton, I have a reason to feel good that he’ll help us. The current regime has a great recent record in getting the best out of journeyman-type players. Campillo comes to mind — who saw that coming?

By ronald

May 6, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Braves GM what the hell is he doing he is bring in another player that is’nt any good do he know what he’s doing he bring in old pitcher and pitcher that is no good that why Boston got real of him he a mess for the Braves they’er never be like they were in the 90’s

By Kermit the Smog

May 6, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

When Howard was hitting .217 through the first two months, Rollins was the engine that kept the team going

When Utley went down, Rollins was the engine that kept the team going

When the starting pitchers failed, Rollins was the engine that kept the team going

When the bullpen failed, Rollins was the engine that kept the team going

When Pat Burrell was nonexistent in the first half, Rollins was the engine that kept the team going.

Without Rollins keeping that team going throughout the year, there is no way in hell they would have been in position to win the division at the end.

He said he was gonna win it and then he went out and won it and kept his team in it throughout the season despite numerous injuries and poor performance from others. That’s what an MVP is.

By Fanncouer

May 6, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Uh, oh, they just stole another base off McCann

By Roman Gal

May 6, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Here’s a good San Diego article about Chipper Jones’ ownage of Padres pitching.

Here’s a little clip: I think,” Redding said, “I’m going to send over a ball or a jersey and ask him to sign it: ‘I own you.’”

By Big Easy

May 6, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Seriously, what is with the Frenchy/McCann thing here? You guys act like you can only root for one or the other, and you constantly compare the two of them. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLAYERS! Their styles are different. McCann is patient; Francoeur is aggressive. McCann is laid back; Frenchy is outgoing. Their personalities are different. They are best friends, and both are great ballplayers. Chill out already. The Braves need both of their talents.

~E~

By Reid in EAV

May 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

ernesto, indeed. “PEDHTSCKJMBA” was my IM status line yesterday.

By Dadgum

May 6, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

DOB….gotta believe the Braves will pass on Furcal at anything close to 15 mil. Given what the Braves have at SS/2nd, where would you put Furcal? Anyway the Braves will need at least two more starters in ‘09 if not before and that will cost big bucks in the open market or trade. These Bravos simply can’t go to the post with the age of the starters save Jair and Hudson. Bottom line the Braves simply don’t need Furcal and certainly not at anything close to 15 mil.

By monty

May 6, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Frenchy seems to me to be a far different batter today than his rookie year. He had magic then. I wanted him up with the game on the line, now I’d rather see several other Braves players bat other than him. I think most other fans would too! He was defeated in the Rookie of the Year Award by Ryan Howard. Look at the difference in the two now. Day and night.

By Brady

May 6, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Just being curious, but I am wondering what 3 roster spots Smoltz, Soriano, and Infante will take “IF” and when they come back.

Depending, of course, that everyone on the current 25-man roster stays healthy.

Thx. Go Braves!

By Aram

May 6, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Dave…A big assumption, but assuming Mike Gonzalez, Rafael Soriano and John Smoltz are all able to return to the bullpen, what happens to Jeff Bennett? Smoltz, Soriano, Gonzalez, Acosta, Ohman, Campillo and Boyer. Does Bennett become the 5th starter. Can the Braves survive over the long haul with Glavine, Reyes and James - all lefties similar in skill set and pitching style - all in the starting rotation? Do you think it’s James that becomes trade bait at the deadline if those three relievers can come back healthy?

By TheCutMan

May 6, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

I made myself a wager before the season started. If, after 30 games, the Braves were 22-8, they were good to go for the NL East title.

If they were 18-12? Good position and confirming their pre-season forecasts.

The minimum requirement for positive assessment was 15-15 which is where they are and to tell you the truth, what with all the injuries and such?

I’m as much in the dark now as when the season started. Some reliable tumblers are needed to click into place for this team to continue its quest to reclaim the NL East title:

1) Getting folks healthy

2) Better clutch hitting

3) Stabilizing the pitching staff

Looking at the above, it would seem a tall, but not unrealistic mission. Hope continues to spring eternal after 30 games. But what about after 60 games? These next 30 contests should clear the picture considerably.

By AdirondackDave

May 6, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

DOB — If the Braves are fortunate enough to sign Furcal, where do you see them playing him? I’d sure hate to see Yunel go. Didn’t Furcal play second in the minors before they decided he had a great SS arm? And what about Kelly Johnson if Furcal signs, does he become trade bait?

This is my take on Chipper and what may be a historic season. No way his average stays at the current nose-bleed level. What happens when he drops down below .400, perhaps several times, will tell the tale. If he can bounce back to .400 in, say, August then I’ll say he has a very serious shot at a historic season. And all that presumes he stays reasonably healthy and doesn’t have lingering problems that affect his swing when he does play.

I know this, if he does have a .400 season, I’m immediately driving down to Atlanta and giving my 9-year old grandson my Chipper-signed bat I got at an ST game in Jupiter a couple months ago!

By JEB

May 6, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

I would bet the 0-9 record in one run games, goes hand in hand with our losing road record. Check it out!

By N8

May 6, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Shaun

Well said at 3:27. You hit the nail on the head.

DAP

Earlier, I said:

“…some pretty horrible AB’s in some rally killing moments. Disagree?”

To which, you responded:

“yes, i disagree. a rally killer, he is not. he is a lifetime .328 hitter with a .904 OPS with RISP.”

Fair point. When looking at his career, overall. Remember, I was BEGGING for him to be in the clean-up spot last year, based on his RISP “stats”.

But let’s break it down a bit in the first month of this year (which is what I was getting at when I made that comment):

RISP: 10 for 39 (.286) with 17 RBI. Certainly “acceptable”

2 Outs & RISP: 5 for 13 (.385) with 7 RBI. Can’t really ask for much more.

But lets see how he’s done in “late and close” situations (you know….games the Braves are 0-9 in?)

Late & Close, which as defined by baseball-reference.com is as follows (Late & Close are PA in the 7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck.): 3 for 19 (.158) O RBI

Within 1 RUN: 16 for 70 (.239) 9 RBI

Within 2 RUNS: 21 for 83 (.255) 10 RBI

Within 3 RUNS: 24 for 94 (.255) 12 RBI.

Within 4 RUNS: 29 for 107 (.277) 17 RBI

GREATER than 4 RUN Deficit: 5 for 16 (.313) 5 RBI.

He’s shown, he’s too itchy with the trigger finger to consistently take walks, especially in RBI situations.

why would you want to walk in an rbi situation? and 25% of his walks have come with runners in scoring position. overall, id say he is a much better hitter with runners on.

So you can dispute that in his career he has been stellar in those situations. I can’t and WON’T argue that. In fact, I suspect that he’ll be our clean-up hitter next year, when Tex leaves. So I hope those numbers (in his career) continue. But so far this year, he is WAY off of his own marks of years past, in coming through in those situations.

Take away the 3 for 5 day, with the 2 HR and 7 RBI against Washington, and he’s hitting .262 with 1 HR and 13 RBI in the other 29 games he’s played in.

Yikes, to say the least.

By Tomas

May 6, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

DOB, whats the latest on Hampton. Is he getting better, or still feeling pain?

By McFann

May 6, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Big Easy—

I’m willing to chill. And my impatience with Francoeur has nothing to do with my love of McCann.

Fanncoeur—

Dang, your 3:38 post was so confusing! I thought you were comparing Francoeur to McCann. I’ve never heard of those three guys you mentioned.

Who stole a base? Last I checked, the Braves haven’t started playing yet.

Monty—

My family and I make up a portion of those other fans you mentioned.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 6, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Dadgum, see DOB’s blog from a couple of weeks ago, the one entitled “Imagine a Furcal-Escobar double-play combo…” (or something close to that)

He suggests the possibility of either trading KJ for a starting pitcher or moving him to another position, whether it’s 1B (assuming that they don’t re-sign Tex, which would free up money to go after Furcal) or OF.

I think that now, given the state of their rotation, it would be better to go after a starting pitcher, rather than try to juggle the infield and welcome back Furcal. Furcal would be great back in Atlanta, but the expense would be a) saying bye to Tex and b) likely losing out on a FA starting pitcher.

To the other PEDHTSCKJMBA folks — any idea when tickets for Atlanta go on sale yet?

By WILL

May 6, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

THEBRAVES WILL BE IN LASTPLACE COME BEFORE THE ALL STAR BREAK THIS TEAM IS NOT THAT GOOD AND I SAID ARIZONA WOULD WIN THE WORLD SERIES AFTER THEY GOT DANHAREN IN A TRADE THEY HAVE IT ALL.THIS BRAVES TEAM IS LIVING OFF ITS REPUTATION THEY WILL LOSE 2OF 3 TO PADRES IVE ALREADY BET ON IT.

By Sir Stealth

May 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Monty:

Ryan Howard (Age 28): BA: .169 HRs: 6 RBI: 16 OBP: .296 Slugging: .347

Jeff Francoeur (Age 24: BA: .276 HRS: 3 RBI: 20 OBP: .311 Slugging: .455

You’re right, the difference in the 2 right now really is like day and night.

By Brady

May 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, and I forgot about M. Gonzales.

By darren in nashville

May 6, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

DOB, the cards demoted anthony reyes to AAA, maybe a trade in the works? what would we have to give to acquire reyes?

By N8

May 6, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

DAP

It just hit me, that I had copied and pasted the rest of you comment at the bottom of my reply, but only replied to the other half. I know. How disappointed you must be, right?

I had earlier stated:

“He’s shown, he’s too itchy with the trigger finger to consistently take walks, especially in RBI situations.”

To which you replied:

“why would you want to walk in an rbi situation?”

Two answers to this.

1) YES. Call me crazy, but I would rather have him walk (and keep the rally going), than ground into an inning ending DP on the first pitch, when his teammates have worked their azzes off to get a rally going.

2) That wasn’t the REAL point of that quote. What I meant to imply, is that until he SHOWS that he IS willing to take walks in that situation, pitchers will have ZERO reasons to throw him strikes.

As soon as he shows that he’ll take pitches (possibly resulting in - GASP! - an occasional walk), he’ll get more strikes, thus he can hack away all day long. :-)

Sorry to not be clear on that before.

By N8

May 6, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

I know that I tend to over use the CAPITALIZATION of words for “effect”, sometimes.

But is anybody else reminded of the Will Ferrell skit on SNL’s “weekend update” where he can’t control the volume of his voice when talking to Tina Fey, when reading Will’s 4:47 post?

“STOP MAKING FUN OF ME TINA!!!!*

By Yars

May 6, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

I would like to see both Yunel & KJ as our SS/2B combo for the next 10 years. Two of the most exciting players in all of MLB, in my opinion. KJ’s bat is heating up. now playing: discipline by nine inch nails.

By Original Jon

May 6, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

WILL YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!

By flange1

May 6, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Folks, we need to be real carful about penciling Smoltz in as the full time closer.

I don’t think he can handle that much work.

I hope he can give us 30-45 more innings this year.

We need to hope Gonzo and Soriano come back healthy and productive and anything we get from Smoltz will be a bonus.

By McFann

May 6, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Nuthin wrong with walkin’ with RISP.

just sayin’…

By DAP

May 6, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

N8 everything noted. i would like to see jeff become a better hitter myself. although he gets respectable results, he has shown there are lots of areas he can improve. the good thing is, he has great tools, so the chances of him getting better are pretty good.

“AND A LITTLE BIT SOFTER NOW!”

classic.

By DAP

May 6, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

McFann Nuthin wrong with walkin’ with RISP.

definetly not. a hit is better though, since it means a run, unless mccann is on 2nd! :-)

N8 makes a good point, that if he doesnt show he will take walks, guys will just throw him balls.

but, its also true that jeff has something in him thats makes him want to be the guy to get those rbis, which is good, but he also needs to learn to control that a bit. also, batting in the order where he does, usually 7th, he is usually the last power threat in the lineup until it turns back over, meaning if he doesnt get them in, they might not get in.

but youre right, for the most part, nothing wrong with walking with RISP.

By Mike

May 6, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

DOB, look forward to the blog every day…any chance maddux comes to ATL for the stretch run???

By BT

May 6, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Let’s quit whining and start winning. ESPN will have to mention the Braves if we are in the playoffs and World Series. Let’s sneak up on people!

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008)

May 6, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

What is probably the worst kept secret as to why the Atlanta Braves are leading the Major Leagues in hitting at .287 is…..

The Braves lineup of KJ, Yunel, Chipper, Tex, Mac, Frenchy, Kotsay and Diaz are the proud owners of a combined career BA of .294

Folks, these boys can flat out rake.

Kelly Johnson has the lowest career BA of the bunch at .264 but also has the fourth best OBP at .358

That is the good news. The bad news, they are tied for 25th in stolen bases.

This offense will continue to live and die by the extra base hit/home run all season.

By McFann

May 6, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Didn’t mean to hit “Post” on my last…post. But I was in a hurry to go out and cut some milkweed for my caterpillars, and pushed it by mistake.

What I wanted to type was that I agreed with Neight about taking a walk over a DP with RISP or whatever.

(And just to stop people from thinking I’m saying that Francoeur has more GIDP with RISP than McCann, they are actually equal in that department. They both have one. Now, walks, well, that’s a different story. But I won’t get into all that…)

By McFann

May 6, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

DAP—

You are very correct. (Starting with N8 makes a good point… ; ) )

But really, he does need to control himself, because he usually is the last “big guy”, so to speak. (Of course, if Diaz is in there, he has the “potential” to drive them in. At least I have faith in the guy.)

When Francoeur is really having a “Swing at everything” day, if I were a pitcher, I’d love to throw to him. (Course, I don’t think even the 2007-08 Andruw Jones would swing at anything I threw, LOL) So like you said, he has to be more patient—make pitchers be as afraid to throw to him as base runners are to run against him.

(Sorry, that last part was directed at Fanncoeur—who mysteriously disappeared. This is for him, too: Francoeur has one assist so far. But don’t get me wrong, he’ll get more.)

By N8

May 6, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

DAP

I’m glad somebody got the Will Ferrell/Tina Fey reference.

Totally agree with your last post. I enjoy Francoeur. I think he is a GREAT “face” to the franchise for the next decade. Though with the glut of OF prospects on the way (including Barroid…er…Jordan Schafer), I’m not sure Francoeur will be here for a decade, like say McCann.

But I like his attitude, and apparent desire to be THE guy that picks up the big RBI’s.

He just needs to be more selective. That’s the most simple way I can put it.

The thing is, JEFF knows it too. But when there are guys on base to knock in, and the pitcher throws a slider on the outer half, he’s like a dog when his owner pretends to throw the ball and hides it behind his back. He can’t HELP but begin to chase after it.

Way too anxious. Someday, that will pay off.

By Pete H.

May 6, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

There are people here who would argue whether today’s sunrise was better than yesterday’s. At length. Ad infinitum.

And there’s a reason Reyes is in the minors. If you look up wild or erratic in the dictionary, his picture is there.

By Reid in EAV

May 6, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s official. Chipper Jones is by far the best hitter to stealth-comment on this here blog. ;-)

By Fan since 66

May 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Good move getting Greg Norton.Sometimes improving the team comes after the season begins.The team needed a utility man with power off the bench.We need another dependable starting pitcher also.Francoeur and Tex need to get the power hitting started.Kelly Johnson needs to work the count and take a few walks also.Him on base more will help the team a lot.Kotsay is doing a good job fielding and his hitting is coming around now.Diaz and Blanco have got the platoon thing working good also.If the pitching can work itself out then the Braves will be in good shape.About Furcal,why is everybody thinking the Braves would be interested in him anyway? They would not give him 13 millon a year before and they certainly won’t up the price to 15 mil this time.With a first basemen and pitching to worry about any money spent should be on these positions.Yunel Escobar is just as good and a lot younger anyway.The Braves have questions to answer in the bullpen also.Resop looks awful and Boyer,Ring,Ohman and Acosta need to be more consistant.Soriana and Gonzalez and Smoltz will displace some of these when and if they return.Hampton may or may not return but,i hope that he lets the muscle heal before trying again.Most everyone has given up on him but the man when healthy can pitch and win games.After all he has been through my hat is off for him.After 30 games with all that has happend to the team so far i say the team is still in good shape.If the players continue to improve and the pitching works out and a trade or two happens then,the Braves could be playing in Oct.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Similar to MTV with showing music, ESPN stopped reporting on sports YEARS ago N8

Nice post at 2:28 N8. Years ago I stopped watching 40 minutes of Sportscenter just so I can see 1 meaningless solo HR of Braves clips followed by 10 minutes of NFL analysis 4 months before NFL exhibition games begin. Resorting to a well-run Braves blog more than gets me my fix.

But, this is something the next commissioner is gonna have to tackle. Baseball during Selig’s term has gotten nothing but negative media, starting with the strike in ‘94, followed by the steroid era. Selig has been the source of labor peace, record attendance and contracts, but it’s also the commissioner’s fault MLB has become less exciting to watch, in comparision to its competition, in the eyes of passive sports fans.

When i see baseball and its players get scrutinized publicly and federally for something such as steroids, yet see football personnel, such as Richard Rydze go untouched with the same allegations, it upsets me. It upsets me to read reports like this, or spygate, but know that it will probably fly under the radar. Food for thought.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

This offense will continue to live and die by the extra base hit/home run all season.

Coach, in the last 3 games, Cox has utilized either a stolen base or a hit-and-run in the early innings when we’ve gotten the 1st runners on.

I think Bobby is seeing the light. I hope he is. Quickly glancing at the boxscores, this team is like 13-5 (not accurate) or so when they score 3 or 4 runs in the 1st 3 or 4 innings, and the offense has come alive when runners have been moved over as of late.

By jeffc

May 6, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Love the Braves but if they finish .500 this year they’re lucky. As a team we’re currently 8th in the National League, where we can’t even sniff a wild-card bid. It’s time to get young on the starting rotation, forget about band-aids like Kotsay and Glavine, and let someone else choke on Boris Texeira. We’re finding out just how ordinary the New Age Braves really are: Frenchy, McCann, Johnson, and Diaz are key components of our drive to .500 ball. The good news is that, with the addition of a power hitting first baseman, and a fast young centerfielder who can hit lead-off, this team might make some noise in the coming years.

By Fanncouer

May 6, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Darn. McCann just gained another pound.

By Dan

May 6, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

hey coach, Nothing for nothing. But why would you want Mad Dog back ? Esp. if the Braves are in the mix. That just doesn’t make any sense to me.He isnt dominant anymore.
How bout we see if Randy Johnson wants to come here or Kevin Brown comes outta retirement or wherever he is these days. Or any other old fart. NOT trying to be a wise a$$ but the braves would need a # 1 - 2 type to compete come mid summer and playoff time.

Instead i was also thinking along those lines…BUT i was thinking of a YOUNG stud. Even if it means giving up a ton. The Braves need a young gun for this year and the future. So, one guy that popped into my head was B.Bannister. Being that the Braves and KC have a good relationship MAYBE they can work something out. What do you guys think? Am i waaayyyy off?

Either way NO MORE OLD GUYS. Gotta get another young guy to go along with Hudson and JJJ this year and beyond.

By McFann

May 6, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

…he’s like a dog when his owner pretends to throw the ball and hides it behind his back. He can’t HELP but begin to chase after it. Neight

I like that. That’s clever!

Fanncoeur on the other hand……

Seriously, dude, you’re pretty sad. Your post at 6:33 is the best you cann come up with? So sad…

And man, your name’s not even original!

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Here’s first part of story I just filed on Soriano, who had to cut short his bullpen today. Elbow hurting still.

By DAVID O’BRIEN dobrien@ajc.com

Braves closer Rafael Soriano will have an MRI and other tests done on his right elbow Wednesday to determine what is causing his lingering soreness.

The right-hander has been on the disabled list for a month and had to cut short a bullpen session Tuesday after the soreness flared up again in his pitching elbow.

“We’re going to see if we can get to the bottom of it,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said. “It just hasn’t seem to improve much.”

Soriano will have tests and be examind by a Braves doctor. Wren said he will have the same battery of tests that was administered in January before the team signed him to a two-year, $9 million contract.

By Shamus Thacker

May 6, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I “dated” a biker gal a few years back. First gal who ever physically scared me. I’m 6’1 and 230, she’s 4’11” and 105, but she was absolutely frightening at times. She could squeeze a person in half with her arms or legs, and punched like a damn bantamweight. If you’re wondering, she rode a Harley 45 flat-head, a smallish bike but very cool.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Padres changed Thursday starter. It’s Will Ledezma, making it back-to-back lefties the Braves will face here, then two more in Pittsburgh.

Glavine’s pitching Friday and likely Chuck James on Saturday, though Braves haven’t made that last part official.

Moylan surgery on Thursday.

By Shamus Thacker

May 6, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Hope it ain’t that Tommy John deal with Soriano.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

About time on Soriano. Why didn’t they order the MRI before? Why does this team wait so long to do MRI’s? They should’ve done this is spring so they could plan accordingly.

By MVH

May 6, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

DOB, I can’t remember, but has Soriano already had an MRI this year?

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Uhh…DOB, what’s up with Gonzales’ “minor setback”? Were people going to report this? What is the deal?

By McFann

May 6, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Will Ledezma, eh? he ruined a game for us in Arizona before he was released…

By Shamus Thacker

May 6, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

This penny-pinching ownership prolly don’t wanna pay for those MRIs.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 6, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Coach is a douche

In his 3:00 post he actually “claims” to have have the same thought about Maddox Last Night — before he read it today here on DOB’s blog.

YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR !!!!!

Now you are taking credit for DOB’s thoughts too ??

WTF ?!?!

And we all know what you mean by thanking DOB for his article of stats that you can “chew on” — I can cut-and-paste that stuff later

You are a cerified douche, a liar, a fraud, and an a*******clown !!!!!!

By MAV

May 6, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

Best news of the year so far. No Prado for 2 months. At least nobody will be saying he should be the in instead of Kelly anymore. Kelly doesn’t do idiotic things like slide head first into first base. Don’t they teach you not to do tht in little league. Way to go idiot. Go Braves.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Wren told me Rohrbaugh is expected to leave extended spring and start pitching in the minors this week.

Also, I was told by someone (not Wren) that Thomas Hanson would be promoted very soon. Dude is 3-1 with a 0.90 ERA in seven starts at Myrtle, with a jawdropping 49 strikeouts and 11 walks in 40 innings. And a .116 opponents’ average.

By Steve from OH

May 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Hasn’t Soriano already had Tommy John?

By Gamecock Brave

May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Kotsay is smooth man… he just seems to get key hits all the time! glad we got him.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Ledezma on Thur? Guess the word got out about us and lefties.

By BossLady

May 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

GO!!!KOTSAY

Man, I wish I had Hampton’s seat.

By Fanncouer

May 6, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

this would have been a bigger inning if that chubby catcher could get a hit.

well, at least tubby didn’t clog the basepaths for frenchy this time.

chubs probably wouldn’t have scored from third on that frenchy double

By radoncbravesfan

May 6, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Kotsay came up big with single, rbi and good speed scoring from first on Blancos double.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

Gonzo had a minor setback? Where did you hear that Ephin?

By TJ

May 6, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

McFann, Braves didn’t release Ledezma. We traded him (and Will Startup) for Royce Ring. While I like Ring, Ledezma’s likely to give the Pads more innings on Thursday than Ring will give the Braves in a month.

By Shamus Thacker

May 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Hey Capt. Caveman, your stated feelings about coach are ambiguous, could you clarify please? lol

By radoncbravesfan

May 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable again, chipper!!!

By Pete H.

May 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

This Chipper Jones guy seems to be pretty good. Where’d we pick him up, again?

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

chipper jones is a freak of nature.

By J.D.

May 6, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

MVP MVP MVP

By The great thunder maker in the sky

May 6, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

This just in:

Chipper Jones is halfway decent. Thank you very much Todd Van Poppel.

Sorry for stealing your line DOB.

By ole timerbrave

May 6, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Any one have a pitch count on jerjens. He is still looking good.

By McFann

May 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

TJ—

Oops. Yeah, you’re right. Mea Culpa. I like Ring, too.

Fanncoeur—

Does your family not give you enough attention?

Why don’t you go lie down and stop clogging up the blogpaths.

By radoncbravesfan

May 6, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Needless to say, Kotsay is seeing the ball well too

Good to see

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

ole timerbrave

Jurrjens: 62 pitches through 4.

42 of those are strikes.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Hey, I forgot, who was it here on the blog this spring that was berating all of us about the Kotsay/Andruw thing, and put his “bottom line” question to us about which we’d take if Braves had to pay them the same amount this year?

Because I think I’d like to change my answer.

By Murphy

May 6, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

I think that when this offense is working, we have some grinders at the back-end that can get things working when the guys with pop are not getting it done. ie, I love how Blanco, Kotsay and Diaz just battle it out.
Warm weather = hitting!

By ColoradoBravesFan

May 6, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

JJJ has 62 pitches after 4, 42 for strikes. Lefties are geeting lots of hits of him today though.

GO BRAVES

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

By the way, Kotsay has more homers (two) in the past two games than he hit in 206 at-bats last year.

He also has more homers in the past two games than Andruw has hit this season, but that’s another story….

Oh, and on GONZALEZ: Yes, Braves calling it minor setback. Had some soreness Monday, pushed back his first two-inning stint that was supposed to be today, now will be Wed. or Thur.

They still expect him to begin rehab assignment next week and join Braves by end of month, but not mid-May now.

By keylargo

May 6, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Tex may be a $20M next year but he is no CJ.

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

I dont see any puxxies moan about Kotsay anymore. Just saying.

By T to the D

May 6, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

DOB:

I’ll buy you a round trip ticket to Bristol, CT. at your leisure to wage Larry War.

mLB meet LWJ…

You can call him Sir and ask to call him HOSS…

By BossLady

May 6, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

GO!!!KOTSAY

Ron Gant sounds like a golf announcer

By radoncbravesfan

May 6, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Great play, Kotsay. OK, let’s hear the AJ comparisons.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Yes, after that basket catch by at the warning track, I’d like to submit my response to the Andruw-or-Kotsay query….

By keylargo

May 6, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

I remember the old carpenter saying measure twice and cut once. I will apply that to myself and say proofread once and you will not have to post twice.

I meant to say Tex will be a $20M man next year but he is no CJ.

By fastasballs

May 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Kotsay is playing very well to say the least. He got a great jump on that ball.

I don’t know about the rest of you but right now I’d take Kotsay for the money he’s getting over Andruw even if Andruw was playing for free.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Thanks DOB.

By the way, you were dead on about Kotsay. I want an official apology from all the bums who were calling to platoon him a few weeks ago-and who was it that called it a stupid and needless trade? Wish I could keep everything straight.

This team is darn good right now, and they are playing against teams that are not. Braves should steamroll these teams, and it is nice to see that they are.

So what is the over/under on Chipper’s average going up again? Someone needs to tell that man to blog more often during the offseason…the power of the internet compels him.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

MVH: no MRI on Soriano since January. Tomorrow will be first one since then.

And yes, someone asked if he’s had TJ surgery. Had it in August 2004, missed most of two seasons.

By Cody

May 6, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Over the last two or three days people have comented on JJJ. MAny are concerned that he will get over used. A rookie should only throw 100 pitches a game and nothing over that and should get 30 starts. Innings mean nothing and some people were saying that we can’t rely on him for 200 innings this year cause we will hurt him. i strongly disagree becuase this kid could go 10 only throwing 100 pitches. It doesn’t matter how many innings are pitched. it only matters at how many pitches he throws. i say limit him to 27-30 games and keep him at 100 pitches. This kid is so amazing that I still think he could touch 200 innings in that frame. This is going to be a jewel of a pitcher. He is this good now imagine how good he will be when he is in his mid 30s. people say there will be another 300 game winner again but if he stays healthy he will have a shot. That is because he pitches to contact. Go Braves.

By Cody

May 6, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

DOB is Jair still eligable for the Rookie of the Year award. If he is the Braves have their first since Furcal.

By Savannah Guy

May 6, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

Choppinmama It’s been a couple’a days since catching up on the blog but a friend emailed your 6:20pm post from yesterday and… well, I’m touched. At least that’s what some would say. But really, thanks for requesting a ‘Three Amigos’ report.

I’ll let Mr. Fly know that he’s been requested. He’ll be as proud as a hound dog getting’ his head scratched while ridin’ shotgun in a new pickup truck with all the windows rolled down. Not sure where the little sleuth reporter is at the moment, but knowing him, he’s probably hangin’ with Doggie, Tommy and Smoltzy over in the visitor’s weightlifting room, or maybe bellied-up to the buffet table… not sure.

Having the ‘Three Amigos’ together in Atlanta is special even if none of them pitch in the series. Me, I’d love to see Maddux back in Atlanta if the Braves could find some kind of reasonable deal to get him here. To witness those guys end their careers together would be like watching MLB history every day this year.

To have that happen in Atlanta, with Bobby in the dugout, Skip calling the occasional game, Dews doin’ his thing and d’Artagnan (Chipper) still making his mark in the twilight of his HOF career would be as good as winning the pennant in my book.

The Amigos as 3-4 starters with Smoltz closing, along with batting champ Hossketeer could just be a pennant for the Bravos Story book stuff, especially in this day and age. I know… I’m dreaming.

By bf54

May 6, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

It’s not the 3 duck’s on the pond that Texiera couldn’t bring home - but why is it that I wasn’t surprized? Is it the Boras’ inspired contract year ‘visions of sugar plums’ that have invaded the psyche of this very talented player? (Aah - the AJ jinx, I get it!).

Earlier on this blog somebody opined that ownership needs to pull out the wallets (and until they do, blah, blah,). This is nonsense. I like our mgmt’s decisions - they were essentially sound- but we did have a couple or three injuries more than expected.

This is a franchise with lots of off the diamond assets - don’t kid yourself.

Are large dollars for Tex the answer,or are 2 more SP’s what we need. For this season, the next 30 games tell the tale. I am not a huge fan of mega salaries. (Look at Posada, Kevin Brown, Barry Zito, Mo Vaughn - the list goes on. 36 mil for AJ will join the list of bad K’s.)

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Cody: Yes, Jurrjens is a rookie, eligible for Rookie of the Year.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Just be wary because Jair has shown some durability concerns. I think he has been stuck at 140 IP for three years. It should go up 30 every year, so apart from his shoulder last year he should have been 170 last year and around 200 this year, maybe around 180 or 190. We gotta make sure this kid is healthy at the end.

By macdaddy

May 6, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

DOB, just some random thoughts. Does the team have any money left for a couple July moves?

If the Reds fall off the map do you think, the Braves might look for another pen left (Jeremy Affeldt)? I really like that guy in Arizona Jeff Salazar too, though not sure we need another OF’er.

By the way, I think it’s Indy or bust for Hillary tonite, I heard she’s out of money.

I live in KY, by Cincy, so things have gotten really interesting around here lately. Viva los Bravos.

By Efrim

May 6, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Rough news on Soriano. It would sure be nice to have him back sooner rather than later. Hopefully the MRI will provide some answers. I hope a second surgery isn’t the prognosis. That would be a devastating blow. Especially considering he is on the books for over 6 million next year.

By MVH

May 6, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Thanks DOB…doesn’t sound good.

By Cody

May 6, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Next to Huddy, Jair is our best starter. Give high fives his night is done. Great work 6 IP, 1 ER, 7H, 4 SO and 103 pitches.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine

I’ll man up….That was me that said the trade was stupid. I’m not afraid for you to call me out, so here I am.

And I still think it was meaningless. I still would want a rookie in center hitting leadoff stealing bases. I still think Kotsay is a streaky hitter. I still think this lineup is streaky. I still think that a rookie in center hitting .270 with a .320 OBP is equivalent or better than having an AJ hitting .220 hitting 4th, and that our lineup wouldn’t score less runs than last year with that scenario. I still would not want to trade a reliever such as Devine for a stop gap guy, especially when this team will have a lot of holes to fill this next offseason and think that an inexperienced rookie this year is better than an inexperienced rookie next year.

So yeah. That was me. Go ahead and destroy me during this Kotsay hot streak and I’ll do the same thursday thru Saturday as we face a bunch of lefties.

By Philliesuk

May 6, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

I love checking out this blog every night, but I can’t believe how negative everyone still is. How can anyone say that this is a .500-caliber team? It’s the beginning of May, people. This team is obviously better than they were in 2007. Would you rather have Diaz, Infante, and Gotay or Woodward and Orr? Would you rather have Teixeira or Thorman at first? Would you rather have Kotsay or a fading Andruw Jones? Would you rather have Jurrjens and Glavine or Carlyle? Would you rather have Smoltz or Wickman?

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that this is our best team since 2003. We’ll have some more painful losing streaks this summer, but this is a great team.

By Cody

May 6, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Hang on boys our first game over five-hundred is just 3 innings away.

By Cody

May 6, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine I like your assesment on Kotsay but he will be back next year. Shaffer will need to show the Braves he can play drug free for a couple of years. I also think the Braves will end up trading Diaz if Blanco can prove that he is valuable to the team. Kotsay will be back next year if he can finish the season out healthy

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

Anybody who doesnt thinks its time to put Kotsay or Blanco in one of the top 2 spots on the lineup along with yunel, and send KJ to the 7th or 8th spot, please raise your hand.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

Just be wary because Jair has shown some durability concerns. I think he has been stuck at 140 IP for three years. It should go up 30 every year, so apart from his shoulder last year he should have been 170 last year and around 200 this year, maybe around 180 or 190. We gotta make sure this kid is healthy at the end. Ephinephrine

And how are we going to do that if no one else in our rotation can give us 6 innings consistently and we continue over use our bullpen?

That’s why i thought the Kotsay trade was meaningless. We had good young outfielders, and even if they failed, it’s easier to go out and find a bat than it is an arm, especially with the lack of arms around the league. We never should have traded Devine, especially going into the season knowing we had an old staff.

You can’t rely on Soriano coming back.

You can’t rely on Smotlz either. The articles I read about a severly inflamed biceps tendon for guys his age ALL recommended surgery, ALL said the inflamation can last for months, and ALL said the inflamation can be a source of arthritis.

You never should’ve relied on Gonzo coming back so early, nor pushed him to do so.

You should’ve considered or planned Moylan’s issues after pitching so much last year.

With all that said, I still think Wren NEVER should have made that trade. A arm is always more valuable than a bat, especially an injury prone left-handed bat that is less sucessful against lefties.

By ncscoots

May 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

That is because [Jurrjens] pitches to contact.

I see you bought in to Jurrjen’s sleight-of-hand ST comment, and many opposition hitters so far seem to have done, also. Jurrjens averages about 8 K/9, and that number puts him in the company of decidedly non-contact pitchers. He’s not AFRAID of contact, and maybe that’s what he meant, but he misses bats too much to be called a “pitches to contact” guy.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Oh really Bobby’s Cox…you mean someone like oh I don’t know, Jordan Schafer? On a team that could use a position player with some veteran leadership? I think its a dumb call, plain and simple. But it’s not the only thing I disagree with you about, so whatever. I’m more than content to wait it out over the course of the year and see who is right.

We absolutely cannot let these guys back in the game. Time for the Braves to get some runs.

By murphy

May 6, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Redman is getting torn up again…this time by St. Louis.

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Interesting stuff.

We all know Chipper is locked in. He leads the the majors in BA. No secret there. He is leading by more than .060 points (Furcal 2nd).

Albert Pujols leads him by .040 points in OBP, doing this aint hard since Pujols has 3 times the walks chipper does (34 vs 12).

The top 8 OBP in the major are from NL players. I thought NL was the weak league…..

By Efrim

May 6, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Lets go Manny. Close this game out.

By Greg in TN

May 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Evening lads and lasses…

I Still can’t get used to those Padres road unis. They look like somebody slipped a case of mustard into the wash.

Another solid night on the mound from tonight’s starter, Jair Jurrjens. Six innings of work, seven hits, one earned run and 8 Ks. If he stays healthy and can continue to pitch this effectively, he has to get consideration for ROY.

Another night of Rawlings abuse at the hands of the Offensive Assassin. Great night at the plate and in the field by Mark Kotsay. Nice to see Yunel back in the lineup and not missing a beat.

The bench has already gotten one upgrade in the addition of Greg Norton and looks to get stronger yet again as soon as Omar Infante is ready to join the big club.

Soriano’s elbow is a concern, a big one, and I also agree with the sentiment that Smoltz’s shoulder might not allow him to be the full-time closer upon his return. It might work out well to have him split that with Mike Gonzalez when Gonzo returns from his rehab stint. I’d love to have him back throwing well, but I also understand that he’s gonna need time and patience as he gets back into action after his surgery.

I really hope Tommy Hanson gets promoted before Miss’sip comes up to play the Smokies. I’m eager to see how he’s progressed since I saw him last August. Looks like he’s terrorized the Carolina League long enough.

Let’s get these last three outs.

By ncscoots

May 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Overlord, consider my hand raised. It has been, for some time. And it will stay there, until KJ goes into a 30-game funk while Blanco is hitting .350 in those same 30.

In fact, I’ve posted that Blanco is my biggest surprise thise year, in that he’s much more solid at the plate than I remember from seeing him in the minors.

But, over the course of a season with KJ at his norms, it’s just no contest. Sorry.

By MAV

May 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Leave Kelly in the top spot. He may be streaky with the bat at times, but he will definitely have the higher OBP obver the course of the year, and that is what it is all about getting on base for the people behind him.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

I’m more than content on waiting too Ephineprine. So we shall see.

Overlord, i think DOB is right in the balance of power shifting to the NL.

By Jim

May 6, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

Has anyone seen Matt Diaz?

By MEB

May 6, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Dude… DUDE!!!

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Good move by Bobby to bring in Ring.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Good move by Bobby to bring in Ring.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

hahaha holy crap, I thought that was gone. Oh man. This is gonna be interesting.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

WOW, disaster averted on that Royce Ring hanging curveball that Gonzalez crushed … about 5 feet foul. Would-be three-run homer and ridiculous heartbreak for Jurrjens and Co.

By uga-brave

May 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

this is like trying to make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t.

By murphy

May 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Geez we need some of the bullpen studs to come back soon!

By The Crab

May 6, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Some of you probably had to change your underwear after that Royce Ring performance.

By Efrim

May 6, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Wow. Quick hook by Bobby and it seems like it was a good move as Ring just punched out Adrian Gonzalez. Hopefully we can get this final out.

By BayAreaSteve

May 6, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

By radoncbravesfan

May 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Good win tonight and BC finally pushed the right buttons with the bullpen. Good thing that Gonzales ball was foul.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Overlord

Do you not realize this team CAN NOT PUT A LEFTY AT 2? Does anybody think before they type? Putting Yunel at 1 and a lefty at 2 means that Chipper and Tex will be hitting righty for the 6-7-8-and 9th innings for the rest of the year. That would be wonderful.

By Steve from OH

May 6, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Well, I’d say Bobby managed that one pretty well…

By Efrim

May 6, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Sweet. Go Braves…..

and this team has to start hitting lefties. Couldn’t even sniff Rusch tonight. We have Wolf, Ledezma, and Gorzelanny three of the next four days.

By Pete H.

May 6, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Bennett’s earning his kibble. Spot starter, emergency starter, middle reliever, now emergency closer.

Valuable guy.

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

Even though i have said it 1000 times, ill say it once again. Bennett if far superior to James. Next thing you know he will be backup catcher in an extra inning game. This guy will be our #3 next year…. great choice if we dont land any big horse pitcher.

By murphy

May 6, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

Whew! 4 in a row! Sweet win by the Bravos!

By Philliesuk

May 6, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

Great win. And I don’t want to hear anyone say any of that nonsense that we’re ‘supposed to win’ because it’s the Padres.

By uga-brave

May 6, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

bayareasteve,

sorry dude, i drank your whiskey after that gonzalez foul ball.

By ncscoots

May 6, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Would-be three-run homer and ridiculous heartbreak for Jurrjens and Co.

Not to mention off-to-the-races for N8, and about 42 posts of “over”, LOL.

But it was foul. In April, that puppy is three feet fair, no doubt. But it ain’t April anymore. And that, boys and girls, is baseball.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

Acosta is just not ready to be closer. Just ain’t ready to be there. He should be a set up man.

Maybe its time to sub in Stockman, give the dude a try in the bigs as another set up. In the meantime, closer by committee of Boyer/Ring? I want Bennett in the rotation, not in the pen. But maybe we keep him there and have James? I don’t know. Basically, Gonzo and Smoltz cannot get here fast enough. And frankly, I do not think we will see either of them until the end of May.

Buckle up kids, could be a bumpy ride.

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Oh really Bobby’s Cox…you mean someone like oh I don’t know, Jordan Schafer? On a team that could use a position player with some veteran leadership? I think its a dumb call, plain and simple.

epinephrine I’m sure you like using 3 guys to nail down a save situation don’t you? Or using 5 relievers after our starters go 6. How long can this continue? Who are we going to trade to fix the issue and still have left over to trade for a front line starter next year? That’s why that Kotsay trade was bleak, but ya, we’ll wait it out and see who’s right.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 6, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Man oh man. Jeff “Swiss Army Knife” Bennett does the job.

So who’s the closer? Boyer?

By Greg in TN

May 6, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

I know the results aren’t what one would want, but aside from the hanger thrown to Clark, I liked the approach Manny had tonight in terms of getting ahead of hitters. Walks have been a big issue with Manny, so seeing him coming out and throwing strikes was nice.

Ring rallied after the noisy first out to Adrian Gonzalez. Nice punch out there, then Jeff Bennett comes in and gets the fly out to end it.

Nice win tonight folks. Looks like this is a .516 team to me, which is an improvement over where we were last week.

By JC from UT

May 6, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

This may be a stupid/unimportant observation, but I noticed Norton was wearing #20,which is Thorman’s #. Does this mean anything? I thought even if a player was sent down they still kept their number especially a player who spent the entire season with the parent club last season

By BayAreaSteve

May 6, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

It wasn’t even close; that ball was at least nine feet foul…five feet my a*.

And, I doubt it UGA, I’m pretty hammered.

Great job by Bobby. Would some folks give him credit for his use of Ring? And Bennett? Many here, including me, figured Jeff for the long-man role. But he’s done well in short relief, and I certainly trust him there more than Resop or Carlyle.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Philliesuk

We are supposed to win these because its the Padres. But that doesn’t make it any less satisfying. Winning the games you are supposed to is what getting to the post season is all about. Especially winning without a bullpen. Pretty nice. A solid start from Huddy can also rest the pen. Braves are cruising.

By bravedawg

May 6, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Are you kidding me? You defend Chase Utley with two stats then list a book of reasons why Chipper is the hottest player on the planet. Are you trying out for a job on ESPN or do you just like copying what those idiots say. I don’t give a you know what about any stat that Utley has. Chipper is feared more than any other batter right now in the whole friggin league. I am willing to bet old Utley cools off and CJ keeps rolling on. Come on now, your the beat writer start making some noise for our boys. No one else in the country does. Maybe we just need to move the whole city of ATL up to the Northeast and maybe then Chip could get the respect he deserves. GO BRAVES — Chipper Jones Player of the Month!!

By Overlord

May 6, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine the one that should think before posting is you. Easy solution, keep yunel hitting 2nd but switch your lefties (Kotsay or blanco for KJ).

By BayAreaSteve

May 6, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

My post at 9:53, that didn’t, was:

voting for Kelly remaining at lead-off.

By jeff

May 6, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

Where did all the AJ fans go? **Kotsay 308 3hrs 14 rbi. A. Jones 158 (1 hr against braves )and 4rbi. Thank goodness he’s gone. Great game!!JJ is Superman. Love the Kid.Its sure is fun when you win.

By N8

May 6, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Pete H.

“There are people here who would argue whether today’s sunrise was better than yesterday’s.”

Yesterday when I got the kids on the bus, it was cloudy. Today was BEAUTIFUL, so I agree with you.

Today’s sunrise, was DEFINITELY better than yesterday’s. And that’s a fact.

Of course, I realize that it’s a relative, and regionally based opinion. :-)

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Overlord

Bennett indeed is more valuable as a starter. We should use James in the bullpen. He’s not bad as a starter, but most of his issues come the 2nd and 3rd time through the batting order.

He’s only got 2 pitches, a sneaky fastball that hitters are able to pick up the 2nd time through the order, and a great change up. If James came in as a reliever I think he’d be effective in 1-3 innings as he usually is in the 1st 3 of his starts. He wouldn’t be a bad 5 and 6 inning guy when our starters only go 5.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Bobby’s Cox, we are not going to trade anyone. We are going to wait until some combo of Gonzo/Smoltz (and maybe Soriano) gets back.

I hear what you are saying about biceps inflammation, but those people are not getting injected and treatment every day. Smoltz will come back, and it will probably mean this is his last year. But he will be back.

As for Gonzo, my bet is late May. But until then, my bet is we tough it out. And I think if Reyes can continue, we have the staff to do it. But its going to be bumpy.

As bad as things are, the simple truth of the matter is that our pitching, taken as a whole, is better than it has been in 06 and 07 even with the injuries. Period. And we are going to get better when Smoltz, Gonzo, and/or Soriano get back. So again, buckle up.

By Philliesuk

May 6, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

Jair Jurrjens is my hero. So is Jeff Bennett. So is Chipper Jones.

Jurrjens is starting to look like a #2 starter, but that all depends on how many innings he can give us this year before he tires out.

By Epinephrine

May 6, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

Anyone else watching the no hitter?

By Pete H.

May 6, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

Great win. And let’s give some credit to Wren and our scouts, who identified Jurjy when he was still in the minors and tried to get him several times. Having the Rents card to play closed the deal, but there is no question, given how fast that deal came together, that Wren had his eye on JJJ and wasn’t even really listening to other offers.

Gorkys is probably going to be a force someday, but that’s just gravy.

By Greg in TN

May 6, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Quite appropriate to me that Kotsay’s running basket catch was in front of the image of Rabbit Maranville on the outfield wall at the Ted since the ‘ol Rabbit was also known for the basket catch.

Phils and mets both up early in their games out on the other coast, so unless the status quo changes, no ground gained tonight.

White Sox starter Gavin Floyd has a no hitter going against the Twins through 8 even though the Twins have pushed a run across.

By N8

May 6, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

This makes four games in a row, that I haven’t been home to watch, that they’ve won.

I believe, I’ve found my good luck charm…..the DVR machine.

bravedawg

I commend your loyalty, but you spouting off about Chipper being better than Utley, is no different than anybody else saying Utley had the better month.

Now if you wanna argue whether Nomo should have won the ROY in 95, or David Wright winning the GG last year, that’s fine, and certainly debatable.

But if the numbers were switched around, meaning Chipper had Utley’s stats, and Utley had his, you’d STILL be arguing in favor of Chipper, right?

My mom always thought I was the cutest boy in my grade, too. That didn’t make it true.

Chipper’s month was fantastic. But Utley’s was a bit better.

Which player do you think I like better?

By Greg in TN

May 6, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Joe Mauer breaks up the bid with a one out double in the ninth.

By DanTucker

May 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Any statisticians out there? How has Teixeira done for the last year? From what I’ve seen since he joined the Braves, he is just another of Scott Boras’ over-rated clients who, in the real world, isn’t nearly worth what he’s being paid for this year’s production and nowhere near what the experts estimate he will be worth in the future. $20 million/year? In his and Andruw’s and Scott’s mind! Slow starting? Has he started? When did he start? He’s becoming Andruish in his batting average with RISP. How many runners has he left on base while hitting it “on the nose” to someone perfectly placed to catch his “hard-hit” drive? If the Braves are lucky, they can maybe get two or three good pitching prospects for Tex before the trading deadline in June. Does anyone find it surprising that opposing pitchers will walk Chipper to pitch to Tex, walk Tex to pitch to Francouer? Easy outs! Just like last year. Walk Chipper and pitch to Andruw. Easy out; even better, easy double-play!

By Bobby's Cox

May 6, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Fair enough Epineprine. I see your point also and your concerns from other posts about the pen. I knew Wren wanted a veteran in in center and I was happy when i heard we got kotsay, but when i heard we got him for Devine, only then was i upset. I thought we’d trade a thorman (billy beane is too smart). Yes, the ride will be bumpy.

By JT

May 6, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

I just hope to GOD that Soriano is OK…what do you think DOB?? could it be something real serious? or the ligament could be fine and its just some pain??gulp

By BravesFanInRockies

May 6, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Whoa DanTucker, try some decaf.

Last year, Tex drove in 56 runs in 54 games for the Braves.

This year, he’s driven in 18 runs in 31 games. And if you’ve paid attention to DOB’s blogs, you’d know that Tex always starts slow and produces more as the weather warms up.

And why oh why would the Braves throw in the towel on this season when they’re 2 games back and on a winning streak?

Again, man, try some decaf.

By happyJames

May 6, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

What a great post by David O’Brien! He not only covered the bases, but also, included one of my favourite Dylan songs. In response…….. Living in Pittsburgh, I’ll be at all 4 games at PNC Park this weekend and I’m expecting a Braves sweep. I haven’t seen the Braves live since last year here and am hoping the road record improves as we take 1st place! ……. Braves bullpen is giving me something that everyone in Atlanta has. upset stomach. Need Mylanta! Keep up the great posts, David!

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 6, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

I guess COACH is waiting for some other websites to post their analysis before he will be able to “think” of his.

WHAT A DOUCHEBAG !!!!!

By JimD

May 6, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

That’s a good one, happyJames, maybe we should change the team name to the Mylanta Braves!

By monty

May 6, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Sir Stealth: i’m not quite sure what to make out of your comment at 4:51

By monty

May 6, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Sir Stealth: i’m not quite sure what to make out of your comment at 4:51

By monty

May 6, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Sir Stealth: i’m not quite sure what to make out of your comment at 4:51

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

I asked J.J. what he was thinking when he watching from the clubhouse and Adrian Gonzalez hit that towering fly off Ring with two on in the ninth.

“That was scary, I’m not gonna lie,” he said, smiling. “I saw him it it and said, ‘Please go foul.’ I was begging.”

The ball sailed about, what, 10 feet foul? If that.

What a game. And Bennett gets a save.

Chipper .426 with 10 homers and 29 RBI in 29 games. Unreal.

Jurrjens 3-0 with a 2.08 ERA in his past four starts.

By THB

May 6, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Things just can’t fall into place for our Bravos. We’re playing great ball, just a lot of distractions with injuries. We truly need one of Soriano, Gonzo, or Smoltz to step up and be a solid closer. The rest of the bullpen is decent and has performed well, we just need that last piece. If one of them comes back (I think it will be Gonzo), we have a very good shot at the division. Still though, we kinda need another mid-rotation starter or better..

I’d say shoot no lower than Millwood, no higher than Blanton (He may come as too much). Reyes on the Cardinals is wouldnt be a bad idea only if he came without giving up a higher prospect, maybe Diory Hernandez.

This is probably pretty dumb, but I see Rich Harden rehabbing in the minors, what would they ask for now? He has had injury after injury, maybe just a mid-level prospect like B. Jones? Not really sure if I would do that, but I might bite on it…

By THB

May 6, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Just a couple of more thoughts..

I was thinking about replacements for Tex if he leaves, and I would love to see Adrian Gonzalez in a Braves uniform. He’s gonna be 26 this year and he can definetely rake, and would cleanup as our 1B.

Also, a rotation of Huddy, Jurrjens, Sheets, Reyes, Morton would be decent, and if we had a healthy Harden we’d be set..that’s a stretch though.

Lastly, if the A’s start losing, and I’m sure they will eventually, think they’d trade Huston Street? I mean, we need a closer..he just might command a lot.

By David O'Brien

May 6, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

BraveDawg, I gave you a litany of stats that say Chipper Jones may well be the best hitter in the game, at least when healthy, since late June 2006.

I merely said that it can certainly be argued Utley was as deserving as Chipper for Player of the Month in April 2008. Nothing more.

Utley and Chipper have clearly been the best two hitters in the majors this season, and Chipper is continuing it into May, showing no signs of letting off the gas.

Should I not point out Utley led the league in extra-base hits and led the majors in OPS before today? Something wrong with a beat writer trying to be objective?

Whatever.

If Chipper keeps this up, he’ll be MVP and you won’t have to worry about it.

By Randy S

May 6, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

Question for those who watched the game on TV (I was at the yard): Did Jurrjens use his slider a lot more tonight? Seemed that way to me.

By ColoradoBravesFan

May 6, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

THB…

I think the Braves should look to replace Smoltz with another ACE. Harden is OK, but Harang or Peavy if at all possible is what I think we should go after if/when the Reds and Padres become sellers. Hey I can dream can’t I.

I don’t think they should go for Blanton or Millwood. Too many prospects and too much money for them. If you’re going to trade, then trade for an ace. Helps this year and next when Glavine and maybe Smoltz are no longer starters.

Hampton injuries has really screwed us last year and now this year.

GO BRAVES…

By TennesseePaul

May 6, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Payne: You started off well. Inserted a complement and everything. Then you follow with possibly the worst response I’ve ever seen you post…

Me: [The MVP] isn’t an individual achievement award

You: I do think the MVP is an individual award. An individual wins it

That statement twisted around what I said and then you proceed to argue against it. I’m beginning to understand why you post up your straw man.
I said Individual achievement. Not And Individual’s award. The award has not been and hopefully never will be an award based off of a single stat. Or, if you will, an individual statistical achievement.

Holliday, Wright, Fielder and Ramirez all had better years statistically than Rollins. Isn’t it kind of strange that the voters just guessed

I’m not sure they did much guessing. I’d imagine that, even though the writer isn’t on the players heals day in day out they can still get an idea of what he means to a team. For instance, Rollins faced the Braves 18 times last year. How many times did you get to talk to him? Think a beat writer might have more perspective than you on the personal matters?
Let’s ask DOB. DOB: is it possible to get an idea of who means what to a team you don’t cover on the beat?

Your entire “issue” with who wins the award is your limited definition of the term “valuable”. From what I can tell, if you are unable to quantize a specific characteristic of a player then it has no merit within the definition of “valuable”. You dismiss it as simply a guess or luck.

Good win tonight. Glad to see Chipper is still on fire. He’s got a lot of work ahead of him if he is going to set the Braves single season batting average record. Duffy has quite the advantage…

By uga-brave

May 6, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this

there is a nice breakdown of chipper’s month in the latest sporting news.

to quote a veteran scout, “HE IS THE BEST HITTER IN THE N.L. RIGHT NOW. I’D TAKE HIM OVER ANYBODY. YES, THAT INCLUDES PUJOLS.”

when chipper got the power working to left center he is locked in period.

too think i was worried about the DOB blog lead in curse.

By kcbravesfan

May 6, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

wow! is anyone else loving what this kid Jurrjens is doing? I’m blown away that he’s only 21 and he looks so good out there on the mound. The Renteria trade is starting to look like a stroke of genius. We bring up a shortstop who is hitting .320 with a great arm for a much lower price and a future ace in Jurrjens. I hope this works out just as well as a certain other pitcher we got from the Tigers. Though really there will never be another Smoltz. Now if we can just keep everyone healthy we might actually start looking pretty scary to the rest of the NL east.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 6, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

OK DOB

You have not answered a question from me in some time now so I would like to take this opportunity to give you one more chance on a very important topic.

What are you wearing :

Boxers or Briefs or Commando??

The blog wants to know.

By fastasballs

May 7, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

Chipper is as locked in right now as ever. He never has gone into a prolonged slump so I think we are going to see some AMAZING numbers from him by season’s end.

.400 is one of those immortal #’s in baseball. Even more so now that the HR record is tainted. Wouldn’t it be great to see Chipper make a serious run at it?

It’s really early & the odds he won’t continue at that clip, but………it’s fun to think about.

By uga-brave

May 7, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

gotta give cox credit tonight. he got acosta outta there at the right time.

when acosta does not get on top of his breaking ball, he struggles.

good win tonight. kotsay is earning his keep in cf. four straight lefthanders on the horizon though.

rick ankiel made two of the best throws you will ever see in one game tonight. pretty amazing feat hgh or not, to go from a major league pitcher to a very good major league center fielder is remarkable.

By fastasballs

May 7, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

Phillies just lost so the Braves pick up a game on them. The Muts are leading the Dodgers 4-3. Andruw managed to hit a hanging curve ball for a single.

By mr baseball

May 7, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

The Braves’ primary backup middle infielder goes on the DL and they replace him with …. a pinch-hitter who can back up Tex at 1B and maybe 3rd. This gives the team 5 bench players, 3 of whom are mainly pinch hitters, although Gotay’s role is evidently about to change.

What happens if Escobar misses a few games? Lillibridge can’t come back for another 10 days unless someone goes on the DL. Is Gotay also going to play 2B if KJ needs a breather against a tough lefty? I thought he was supposed to be a much better hitter lefty.

Guess the only thing that matters to the Braves’ brass is that their bench players be switch-hitters. I think that makes 3 of 5. Doesn’t much matter what position they play.

But since Coach approves, I guess it must be a brilliant move.

As nice as things appear at the moment, the bullpen could un-do everything the starting pitching and offense might do. Moylan is gone and there is ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE that Smoltz, Soriano or Gonzalez is going to contribute anything of substance the rest of the season.

The bullpen as currently constituted has no hope whatsoever of getting this team to the playoffs. If the Braves are counting on any of their DL relievers coming back healthy and productive, they are taking a long and perilous walk on a very shaky branch.

Unfortunately, there may not be much Wren can do. Not sure who would be willing to donate a quality reliever or 2 without the Braves having to overpay by a significant amount.

By DanTucker

May 7, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

BravesFanInRockies. I don’t drink decaff; I prefer margaritas. So what if Tex drove in 56 runs in 54 games for the Braves LAST YEAR or has driven in 18 runs in 32 years this year? The Braves gave away much of its farm for Tex and still didn’t get into the post season last year. Opportunities lost. And, if Tex doesn’t speed-up and overcome his history of “slow starts”, his pace of 18 runs driven in 32 games this year will produce almost 100 runs over a full season; sounds Andruish, doesn’t it? The Braves’ trade for Tex may go down as one of the most ineffective trades in its history. After all, it’s all about what Tex has produced since he arrived in Atlanta. What he did in the past is immaterial; his POTENTIAL is what may make him valuable to someone willing to pay for it. If the Braves cannot sign him to a realistic contract, from the Braves’ perspective, they should trade him to someone who values his POTENTIAL. Trading Tex for additional pitching is not throwing in the towel; it’s called investing in the future, improving the team’s chances of future success. Baseball is a business. It’s all about now and the future, not the glorious past. Have a margarita.

By ernesto

May 7, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Dodgers just took the lead 5-4 on an innie hr.

Next play GOLD GLOVE 3B david wright puts an easy throw to 1b into the 3rd row.

I don’t know how to spell shuedenfreude, but I was experiencing it.

By Mark in PA

May 7, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

Folks, let’s all take Caveman’s lesson to heart—don’t post to the blog when you’re drunk.

By fastasballs

May 7, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

I’m sure Muts fans everywhere about crapped themselves as DeWitt rounded the bases while Church was laying on the warning track while the ball rolled away.

The Muts should have scored 10 runs in the first three innings, but managed to screw that up. Gotta love it.

By N8

May 7, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

ernesto

I’m not sure which was uglier (or would it be more ugly?)….Wright’s throw to the fans….er…1B, or Andruw’s swing on that off-speed pitch for strike 3.

Where are all the bloggers that said Andruw would recover nicely in L.A., and the Braves would severely miss him?

Fools.

By fastasballs

May 7, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this

N8

You know you are not allowed to point out that Andruw is having a slightly off year. The blog frowns upon that especially on a night when Andruw has had an offensive explosion with a single & a walk.

By fastasballs

May 7, 2008 1:35 AM | Link to this

Dodgers closed out the game against the Muts. Braves are now tied with them & 1 1/2 out of first. I know it’s early, but this season would be so much more enjoyable with the Muts in the rear view mirror.

By Mark in PA

May 7, 2008 1:37 AM | Link to this

Mets lose too. We’re tied at 16-15, 1.5 behind Fish and Phillies.

By kpuck

May 7, 2008 2:03 AM | Link to this

DOB - just in case you don’t know, Tom Waits will play the Fox on 07/05.

I love your blog. It makes for a great break for me during the day. We need another pitcher to start. I went to the game tonight, but we can’t count on 3 guys to get us through the trials of a 162 game season. I’ve got some good tunes to recommend if you are looking.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 7, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

Dear Mark in PA

I do not drink. However, if that rule where to be adhered to we would lose many a late night blogger. So while I understand your prudish yet one-sided opinion, let me respond with a completely sober thought.

BITE ME!!!!!!!!!

lololololol

By Aram

May 7, 2008 2:41 AM | Link to this

Just a moment to say what a joy it is to follow this baseball team’s ups and downs. We really do have the priviledge of watching some of the great players of our era, and we take it for granted. I’ve been a Braves loyalist since the late 80’s, and they’ve given me:

1.) Greg Maddux - an absolute wizard with the baseball and the smartest player I’ve ever seen.

2.) Tom Glavine - whose persistence and will are traits any one of us could learn from and apply to our own endeavors.

3.) John Smoltz - will we ever see a more gutsy, more dedicated, more mentally-tough player?

4.) Andruw Jones - who gave us 10 years of the best outfield defense any of us will ever see.

5.) Chipper Jones - his professionalism and raw talent are unmatched. There aren’t too many athletes that represent their franchises with the dignity, class and excellence that Chipper Jones does the Braves.

6.) Bobby Cox - who has created an atmosphere where for almost 20 years, every time I’ve turned on a Braves game I’ve felt they’ve had a great chance to win.

7.) John Schuerholz - who plugged holes and transitioned rosters from year to year better than any GM of his era.

These are Hall of Fame baseball people (with the probable exception of Andruw given how his career turned), and I’m thankful I got to watch them play for my favorite team.

Thanks, David, for bringing us that much closer to our Atlana Braves, and here’s to the new generation of Braves players giving us just as many thrills and goosebumps over the next 15 years.

By OhLookISwipedABaseButGot stranded OnSecondInsteadOfFirst

May 7, 2008 2:48 AM | Link to this

That is the good news. The bad news, they are tied for 25th in stolen bases.Coach

who the he11 cares? you are so full of crap with the constant stolen base thing. We score as many or more runs than teams with 2 or three times as many SB. Give it a rest idiot

By BravesRule

May 7, 2008 2:59 AM | Link to this

Best news of the year so far. No Prado for 2 months. At least nobody will be saying he should be the in instead of Kelly anymore.MAV

what an utterly stupid comment. This ranks up there with the most moronic F@@@@ things that I have ever read on this blog.

By BravesRule

May 7, 2008 3:42 AM | Link to this

He never has gone into a prolonged slump so I think we are going to see some AMAZING numbers from him by season’s end.Fastasballs

what would you call the entire 04 season when he hit .248?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008)

May 7, 2008 5:49 AM | Link to this

Yunel Escobar’s stolen base in the first inning helped to set up Chippers home run in the third inning.

Escobar had reached first base again in the third inning ahead of Chipper and Chris Young grooved a fastball to Chipper because of the stolen base threat presented by Escobar at first.

That is what speed does, it forces pitchers like Young to throw fastballs and Chipper nailed it for a two run homer.

By OhLookISwipedABaseButGot stranded OnSecondInsteadOfFirst

May 7, 2008 6:06 AM | Link to this

Yunel Escobar’s stolen base in the first inning helped to set up Chippers home run in the third inning.Coach

Bullcrap. Maybe in your mind dude. Chipper hit the homer because he is in the zone right now. And if what you said were true then why haven’t the Mets hitters feasted beyound belief with all those steals in front of them? You’re preaching a buncha outdated baseball cliches there dude

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008))

May 7, 2008 6:40 AM | Link to this

I’m not one to normally preach conspiracy theory, but you should read this article and think about it the next time you pay three and four dollars per gallon of gas.

America, you have been lied to.

http://www.pushhamburger.com/hidden.htm

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008))

May 7, 2008 7:09 AM | Link to this

Don’t take my word for it. Read it and agree.

Better yet, look for the Braves lead off hitter who’s name is conspicuously missing from all those listed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3264067&type=story

By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008))

May 7, 2008 7:21 AM | Link to this

Yunel Escobar’s stolen base in the first inning helped to set up Chippers home run in the third inning.

Escobar had reached first base again in the third inning ahead of Chipper and Chris Young grooved a fastball to Chipper because of the stolen base threat presented by Escobar at first.

That is what speed does, it forces pitchers like Young to throw fastballs and Chipper nailed it for a two run homer.

By Willy Wally

May 7, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

Who gave up the most stolen bases in the NL last season?

Could it have been the team that led the league in ERA?

Could it have been the San Diego Padres?

Did they really give up almost twice as many stolen bases as the second worst team in allowing stolen bases?

Don’t tell Cooch. Giving facts to an idiot is useless.

By Willy Wally

May 7, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

The Braves starters, as of this morning, have the lowest ERA, lowest AVG against, lowest OBP against, lowest SLG against, lowest OPS against.

By Billy Walsh

May 7, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this

1. Smoltz and Hampton on the shelf

2. Soriano, Moylan, and Gonzo on the shelf.

3. Tex off to a slow start.

4. Schaefer and his HGH

5. Bennett closing games.

How in the world is this team 1 game over 500? Dare I say, should we give some credit to the manager? Hey Dave, are you ready for the return of the boys from Queens? Will Harvey save the day?

By OhLookISwipedABaseButGot stranded OnSecondInsteadOfFirst

May 7, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Better yet, look for the Braves lead off hitter who’s name is conspicuously missing from all those listed.Coach

you dumb azz its about fantasy league drafts, is that what the Braves are playing? As several others have asked(and you have never answered, cause you can’t) why did the Braves outscore the Mets last year and this year when the Mets swipe 3 times as many bases? I’m not saying that it’s worthless, but It does not translate that much to scoring runs anymore in real life baseball. So who cares, other than you? Go play fantasy ball if you’re all that hung up on steals.

By Myrtle Beach

May 7, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

At some point all three of the closers will be back before the trade deadline. Tex is the future face of the team, trade Gongoz or Soriano/James/G. Hernandez for Harang or Blanton or Bannister. Anyone of the 3 would to the trick and be around forever.

We have to have an Ace with Hudson! Put Bennett back in to rotation!

Hudson, ?, JJ, Glavine, Bennett

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Coach, what is your point about steals and the Braves’ leadoff hitter?

There are four NL teams with 30 or more steals. How many rank in the top nine in runs scored? Let me help you: Only one.

By 22oz

May 7, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

This thing with Soriano does not surprise me. I never had a good feeling that he was coming back, and was surprised that so many people had him in their plans. The best we can hope for is Gonzo and Smoltz. I think we definitely get at least one of the two back.

By Will

May 7, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Wonder when the Braves are going to admit to themselves that Soriano is done for the season because i guarantee that is coming soon. I am pretty sure i had a dream last night that Mike Hampton pitched 6 innings, Moylan a scoreless 7th, Soriano scoreless 8th and Smoltzie closed it out in the 9th…..

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

DanTucker,

So you would trade Tex now for pitching (and I suppose a position player or prospect or whatever) with the Braves 1.5 games out of first on May 7. Fine.

Who are you going to get for him this early in the season? What large payroll team (he’s not going to some place as a rental in May) is going to give up on a top-flight, big league pitcher at this point in the season? I assume you don’t want some castoff or unproven prospect or yet another injured arm.

Any denizens agree with that strategy? I’d love to hear an explanation.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

And who’s going to play first and hit cleanup? Oh yeah, one of the players we get in the trade. Right.

By lt200

May 7, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Everyone is trying to rush thnigs. It is only May 7. Let’s enjoy the ride and see where the majority of 2008 takes us before we start worrying about the roster in 2009.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Shaun (8:11),

Backing up your point, of the division leaders, the Dbacks have 15 steals, the Cards 12 and the Marlins 20. (And face it, the Marlins won’t be in first in October. The Dbacks and Cards might.)

By Efrim

May 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

It’s nice to have some base stealers in your lineup, but it isn’t essential. Braves have a lot of guys that run the bases well. They are second in slugging percentage. Why steal bases when you are hitting doubles all day long??? Just kidding. But seriously, I believe the Cardinals were last or next to last in stolen bases that year they won the World Series. Braves have a great offense, my only beef with it is that they haven’t hit left handers for power this year.

Anyone know the Braves slugging percentage against southpaws this season? Where do they rank among the National League?

By oldmike

May 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Watching the game last night I was impressed with several things. First. Chipper has amazing power to the opposite field. Can’t find a technical term for how he powers his bat (seemingly) effortlessly through the strike zone and “flicks” the ball 410 feet the other way. They guy is and has been a great hitter all the years he’s been a Brave. Probably the most consistent superstar other than the chemically altered Bonds. Chipper never disappears in a big game. Second. JairJ looks like the real deal. He pounds the lower half of the strike zone with 92-94 mph fastballs and hits spots with his off speed pitches. Can’t wait to see how much he develops over the course of the season. He looks fearless on the mound. What a great acquisition. He might become a top of the rotation guy quickly. Third. Kotsay is quite a player too. Hope he stays healthy. He is a real gamer! Finally. All those years of being in less than tip top shape (240 lbs please) have caught up with Andruw. He never fulfilled his promise because of his lackadaisical approach to the game. Too bad. I always thought he would be an A-Rod type of player (stat wise). Thank God we didn’t shell out 30+ million for this shell of a player.

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

TennPaul: [The MVP] isn’t an individual achievement award

Me: I do think the MVP is an individual award. An individual wins it

That statement twisted around what I said and then you proceed to argue against it. I’m beginning to understand why you post up your straw man.

I said Individual achievement. Not And Individual’s award. The award has not been and hopefully never will be an award based off of a single stat. Or, if you will, an individual statistical achievement.

Right, it shouldn’t be based on an individual statistical achievement. It should be based on overall value. And how do we know a players value? Largely by looking at evidence, i.e. statistics.

Holliday, Wright, Fielder and Ramirez all had better years statistically than Rollins. Isn’t it kind of strange that the voters just guessed…about Rollins’ leadership.

I’m not sure they did much guessing. I’d imagine that, even though the writer isn’t on the players heals day in day out they can still get an idea of what he means to a team. For instance, Rollins faced the Braves 18 times last year. How many times did you get to talk to him? Think a beat writer might have more perspective than you on the personal matters? Let’s ask DOB. DOB: is it possible to get an idea of who means what to a team you don’t cover on the beat?

But how does anyone know that Rollins’ leadership and intangibles made more of an impact than say Holliday’s? Holliday has a better year statistically and his team made the playoffs. What about someone like Albert Pujols or Jeter in 2006? Both had better years statistically than the MVP’s but you’re telling me their intangibles and leadership were worse?

The players can say Rollins’ leadership made more of an impact but how can anyone know for sure? Should their word take president over the evidence? Isn’t it very possible there is a lack of perspective when asking the players about the impact of guys? I guess that’s the philosophical question of our little debate here.

Your entire “issue” with who wins the award is your limited definition of the term “valuable”. From what I can tell, if you are unable to quantize a specific characteristic of a player then it has no merit within the definition of “valuable”. You dismiss it as simply a guess or luck.

My point is why make assumptions? And why no consistency? It has nothing necessarily to do with whether something can be quantified. Leadership mattered with Rollins, but where was it with Pujols? Jeter? Holliday? Jeter is normally praised for his leadership and intangibles, yet when he has a better year statistically than any player in the AL and his team wins 97 games, his leadership and intangibles aren’t good enough? If they were, why didn’t he win over Morneau, and why did Rollins win the award? Where’s the consistency?

The award is about hype, not value.

By Gil in Mechanicsville

May 7, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

The facts about speed. Have a guy on the base paths with speed is just another weapon to be used. The proper application and execution of that weapon is dependent on those in possession of said skills. Having batters behind you who can make contact and produce timely hits must also be available.

By StingerSplash

May 7, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Wil Ledezma instead of Justin Germano? Is it too late to get a left field bleacher seat? Bound to be a few souvenirs in the 2 2/3 innings he’ll last on Thursday.

By KC

May 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Yesterday, someone in this blog (or the previous one) mentioned that now that while the Braves didn’t need Glavine to be an ace heading into the season… they do need him to be an ace now that Smoltz is out of the rotation.

I respectfully disagree.

I think Jurrjens has already established himself as a solid #2 starter. And Hudson, obviously, is our #1. So thanks to Jurrjens’ emergence, Glavine doesn’t have to be counted on to be anything more than he was on day-1 (our #3 starter).

Where in the #$%^&* would we be without Jurrjens right now??!!!

Boyer and Acosta, while not perfect, have also saved our bacon. They may not inspire the same confidence yet as a healthy Soriano or M.Gonzalez would… but think back a couple seasons ago when the Braves were closing games with Ken Ray. That should help you appreciate them.

We’ve already lost Moylan, and it looks like Soriano may soon be lost for the year as well. But if we can get Smoltz and Gonzo going out there, along with Boyer, Acosta, Ohman, Bennett, and Ring… that will be one hell of a bullpen.

If we can get Smoltzy and Gonzalez healthy, the question really comes down to the back of the rotation. What we get from Reyes and James could decide the season.

Of course, we also have Bennett as a starting option if one of those 2 falter… and yes, there’s still a chance that Hampt… ok, I won’t go there. But you never know.

All in all, despite all the injuries, we’ve seen some young guys step up, and I think there are a lot of encouraging signs for Braves fans right now.

By McFann

May 7, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Very good game last night. Jiar is THE MAN! My sister and I stayed up to watch his interview on Braves Live!, and I’d say he’s the best guy on the team at talking to the media like that. He’s clear spoken, very polite—just a pleasure to listen to. Matt Diaz is another good one.

I think the Braves cann easily take two out of three here. Maybe even sweep—but with back-to-back lefties, that might be tough; you know how the Braves are with lefties. Though it’s not impossible…

By Adam

May 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

DOB, Did your source say if Hanson was getting moved to AA or to Atlanta?

By kdbanks

May 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

“If Chipper keeps this up (meaning .426 avg, about an RBI a game), he’ll be MVP and you won’t have to worry about it.”

or

“Seriously, dude. Relax. I’m just pointing out some stats for the denizens who don’t necessarily have a tomahawk tattooed on their rear and might want some perspective.”

By Random

May 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Coach and E-2 Cakeman — every single true Braves fan of at least 10 years’ tenure had that very same starry-eyed dream of picking up Maddux at the trade deadline within days of the Braves re-signing Glavine this past off-season.

It may be corny or trite (sorry, Coach), but certainly not plagiaristic (no apologies to the unimaginative Cup Cake).

The sad truth may turn out to be that the Braves do pick up a starter at the deadline, but that Maddux simply won’t be the best available.

By KC

May 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

“Oops.”

• Dave Dombrowski, Detroit Tigers General Manager

By Willy Wally

May 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

The MVP thing is not just who had the best stats and who was the best leader but also who was the best story. Gotta remember that the MVP is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Like the Heisman, NCAA football champions, Cy Youngs, Rookies of the Year, Oscars, Grammys, Emmys, Tonys, you can’t take the MVP too seriously. The best movie, actor, singer script, director, musician, band, play, song, football players and football teams don’t always win.

It’s often about “the story” and who has the best story that can sell newspapers, television ratings, radio ratings, advertising, tickets, beer, blah, blah, blah in the present and in the future.

The MVP is often, for posterity purposes, the defining story of that season. Last season, that defining story was Rollins.

Holliday is viewed as a possible Coors fraud. Wright had the misfortune of playing with the biggest chokers in the history of the sport. Chipper was too injured. Hanley played for a crappy team and is really bad on defense.

None of the contenders put up eye popping, jaw dropping seasons that will be remembered from here to eternity.

Chipper was the only contender that has firmly established himself as an all time player but he was too injured and missed too many games.

Without an all time memorable player or all time memorable season, the one with the best story wins. That was Rollins last year.

Once you get over childish ideals, you stop caring about the MVP (unless your favorite player wins or gets robbed), because you realize the MVP award is meaningless and nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

But I’d still die to see Chipper win another MVP.

By raindawg722

May 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

KC, you make a lot of good points in your 9:25. However, I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that Jurrjens is a number two starter at this point in his career.

No doubt that Jurrjens has been a fantastic shot in the arm. Who knows where the team and the already overworked bullpen would be without him. That being said, he’s not a number two until he proves that he can pitch 200 innings in the bigs. Frankly, I have some concerns there. Last year, he had approximately 156 innings pitched in professional ball, which was his career high, and he developed a tired arm at the end of the year. Right now, he has pitched over 40 innings and we have not gotten through 1/5 of the season.

The Braves would do well to remember the lessons of Steve Avery, and more recently Mark Prior and Kerry Wood, and keep him on a short leash with his pitch count this early in his career.

So, with Smoltz back in the bullpen, the Braves are going to have to go out and find an established one or two who can eat innings. The price will be high. Any team that has that kind of guy expendable will want a package of top prospects in return and probably a guy who is ready to start at the major league level, probably at least a Hanson, Heyward, etc. We’re not talking guys in AAA that the Braves don’t have spots for on the big league club.

WARNING HYPOTHETICAL TRADE ALERT

That being said, the Braves have as good a shot as anyone right now in the National League, with the possible exception of the D-Backs, of making it to the Series. So, just for giggles, if the Padres were way out of it later this summer, and they were entertaining offers for Peavy (I warned you) for, say, Reyes/James (one of the two), Hanson, and Heyward/Flowers (one of the two), then the Braves should do that in a heartbeat. Heck, I would probably trade Hanson and the entire AA farm club for Peavy.

Of course, I do realize that Peavy is still young and at the beginning of a long-term contract where he is still relatively affordable. I don’t think that the Padres would look to part with him. However, the Padres do have a lot of needs, and the Braves might just have enough bullets in their gun to make a deal happen.

By FJR

May 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

I am going to make this preditcion right now. If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs, they will sign both CC Sabbathia and Teixeira.

The Yankees have 90 million (yes, 90 freaking million) coming off their payroll after this season. They have a new stadium. Hank is p** at Cashman for trusting the young guys so much and not getting Johan (probably rightly). They could come close to affording Tex and CC with the money from the expiring contracts of Giambi, Pettite and Pavano alone.

Some of these guys they will resign, but just look at their expiring contracts after this season and gasp (this isn’t even all of them, just the major ones).

Jason Giambi: 21 mill Bobby Abreu: 16 mill Andy Pettite: 16 mill Mike Mussina: 11 mill Carl Pavano: 11 mill Kyle Farnsworth: 5.5 mill LaTroy Hawkins: 3.75 mill

I know we don’t like to think about this possibility, but I really dont see a realistic scenario where the Braves could out bid for Tex this year. And its not the Braves fault. The Yankess have more money coming off their payroll this year than over half of MLB teams have for their entire Payroll. With the money the yankees have coming off their payroll they could pay the entire salaries of the Pirates AND Marlins AT THE SAME TIME.

By kdbanks

May 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

If we can get Peavy, we should then try and trade Bryan Pena and a player to be named to Arizona for that Webb guy. I think he’d be good for us. They’d probably go for it.

By Lew

May 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

When Soriano had his MRI before they signed them to his two year deal, was it the HIGH RESOLUTION MRI? Isn’t it about time we forget the less detailed version instead of waiting six months before we find out these guys have torn and not strained ligaments? Or should we just TJ every pitcher when they sign with the Braves in the minors-maybe not sign pitchers from other teams who haven’t had the surgery yet?

Shaun-Why don’t you just cut and paste your MVP comments from the discussions we’ve had with you the past three seasons-like maybe the one where you claimed Howard’s 50+ HR season was not exceptional?

Dude, it’s May. Who T F cares about the MVP yet? As for the last two winners-they ain’t giving the awards back no matter what your opinion. I’m more concerned with making it to the All Star break then whether or not Chipper wins an award 4 1/2 months from now.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Adam, Hanson will be promoted the way most other star Braves pitchers and players have been promoted, from Class A to Double-A….

Speaking of, someone asked about Charlie Morton. He’s pitching very well, making real strides, and the Braves especially like how he’s learning to pitch on those nights when he might not have his best stuff. That’s something he lacked in the past, being able to adjust and rely on other pitches when he doesn’t have his best fastball.

But Charlie isn’t coming up to the bigs anytime soon. Needs more seasoning. They’re not going to risk stunting his growth by thrusting him into a situation before he’s ready….

raindawg, even in the hypothetical world, that’s a waste of time. Trade Peavy? Gimme a break.

By McFann

May 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

KC—

Good one at 10:21!

By KC

May 7, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Random: Personally, I don’t think the Braves are going to need a starter.

Between Reyes, James, and Bennett (and if the stars align, maybe even Hampton at some point)… I think they’ll be just fine.

Reyes has been inconsistent at the major league level, but he has great potential, and every time they send him down… his performance reminds everyone he doesn’t belong in the minor leagues.

Hopefully, we’ll see more of the under-control JoJo we saw his last time out. If so, he could become a quality big league starter this year.

And while there doesn’t seem to be a great deal of affection in this blog for Chuck James, I need to point out the following:

Before James’ shoulder started giving him problems 2/3 of the way through last season… on July 25th, James was 15th in the league in ERA with a 3.55.

And let’s not forget that he made 18 starts in 2006, and went 11-4 with a 3.78 ERA.

So, while he has his flaws, and you can’t count on a lot of innings from him… when healthy, James has been very solid for the Braves.

He hasn’t looked great in a hand full of starts this year… but I’m betting he’ll be a solid starter for the bottom of the rotation.

As for Jeff Bennett… he’s been pretty solid overall in whatever role the Braves have used him in. If he joins the rotation, I’ll feel pretty good about it.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

kpuck, Waits at the Fox on July 5? Where’d you hear that? After not coming to Atlanta for 30 years, the man’s coming back for a second time in three years? That’s tremendous. And Braves are home, before long Chicago-LAA-Texas trip.

So thanks for the heads-up. Gotta see if tix are available yet.

By Mr. Snrub

May 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

All Star voting probably starts soon right? Who wants to bet that David Wright starts at 3b over Chipper? Fan voting is great to a degree, but that would be a travesty.

By Random

May 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

mr baseball —

as already posted by DOB on the previous blog, Norton was not picked up as a replacement for Prado. He was traded for prior to Prado’s injury.

By AdirondackDave

May 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

And now the out of town news… AJ managed a single in 4 at-bats last night with 2 Ks… Mr. Atlas David Wright was 0-4 with 3 Ks. He also made error #7, increasing the likelihood of a second straight gold glove.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Any statisticians out there? How has Teixeira done for the last year? From what I’ve seen since he joined the Braves, he is just another of Scott Boras’ over-rated clients who, in the real world, isn’t nearly worth what he’s being paid for this year’s production and nowhere near what the experts estimate he will be worth in the future.Dan Tucker

You asked: In the past year, since May 7, 2007, Teixeira has hit .303 with 34 doubles, 30 homers, 111 RBI, a .393 OBP and a .556 slugging percentage (.949 OPS) in 132 games.

He missed about 25 games with a quad injury with Texas in that span, his only career stint on the DL.

By raindawg722

May 7, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

DOB, I agree that Peavy was just wishful thinking … probably top of mind more than anything else since we’re playing the Pads. I am not a big fan of hypothetical trade talk because most of the time the target player is the best player on some other team, and the bait is a bunch of guys that nobody wants.

My main point was that the Braves should trade for a number one or two even if the price is steep because they can’t count on Jurrjens to carry the load like this for the rest of the season.

By AdirondackDave

May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Chipper’s run is even more amazing when you consider that Tex hasn’t yet been his scary self. Can you imagine what may happen when Tex does start pounding the ball and Chipper sees more fastballs? Too delicious to even think about.

By KC

May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

raindawg722:

I certainly can’t argue with your point that Jurrjens hasn’t proven enough yet to be considered an established #2 starter. Fair enough.

All I’m saying is that RIGHT NOW, he certainly looks like a top-of-rotation kind of guy. And if you were to talk with anyone in the Braves organization on or off the record… I think any one of them would tell you they think he’s absolutely the real deal.

Bobby Cox pulled Jurrjens out after 6 innings last night, despite the fact that Jurrjens still felt strong (according to him), and could definitely have gone another inning.

He is on pace to pitch about 200 innings, but I think BC is cognizant of the need to NOT overwork Jair.

He probably did have a tired arm at the end of last season. That’s very common for a rookie pitcher. They don’t throw as many innings in the minor leagues.

Between AAA and Detroit last year, Jurrjens pitched about 142 innings. So it would be asking a lot of him to throw 200 innings, and then (if all goes well) pitch in October.

So, again, I think BC is trying not to wear Jair out, but if the Braves are able to make the post-season, I hope Jair heads into October having pitched no more than 180 innings.

We’ll see. The kid’s a stud though. I don’t care how good Renteria is… this trade was steal!

As for Jake Peavy… forget it. They’re not parting with him. If this were a contract year, and they felt they couldn’t keep him, it would be different… but that’s not the case.

By kdbanks

May 7, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Anyone want to talk music? I just put in Tom Petty’s “wildflowers”. Really an under appreciated album from one of the greats, in my opinion. One of those amazing start to finish records that will match your mood whether it’s chilled out, in the dumps, or whatever.

“Crawling Back to You” is just a brilliant tune. Can’t believe this album’s almost 15 years old. Sounds fresh everytime.

What other albums do you guys think are absolutely under appreciated? For the record, Disintegration is the best album ever.

By Blake Penno

May 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

DOB

I roll out of bed to see your name on the screen on ESPN? Good piece, but I was really hoping you would have called Chipper “hoss” on national TV.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Random, thanks for taking that one….

Snrub, with the attention Chipper’s getting for his .425 average (and 10 homers, etc) I don’t think he’ll get snubbed by the fans. I just did a call-in with First Take on ESPN, and you’re seeing Chipper discussed on all the other ESPN shows and starting to pop up in stories in national publication. His amazing surge is coming at a great time, in terms of All-Star voting. He’s fresh on everyone’s minds.

By Efrim

May 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

RainDawg722

I am not sure if those trades for a #1 happen in May. Maybe by the deadline, but most likely in the offseason. Peavy isn’t going to get traded. Chris Young might be a target at some point- but that probably won’t take place until the offseason.

Braves will most definetly be on the lookout for a front of the rotation starter this offseason. They will need that guy to replace Smoltz.

By Random

May 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

KC—

I’m in complete agreement with you on Reyes, James and even Bennett. (I took someone to task here last winter who had said something like if Bennett was ever in the rotation this year, then many things would have had to go horribly wrong. Turns out he was right.)

As for Hampton, I still have bitter, forlorn hopes, but I can’t help but visualize his current musculature as having a composition falling somewhere between that of a 3000-year old mummy’s linen shroud and a fistful of cobwebs.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

raindawg,

If you want to get a number one or number two in a trade you have to give something up. And I have a hard time seeing who you would trade on the current roster who’s replaceable with ML prospects right now. In other words, if you trade one of the best players on the ML club, who’s the replacement and how much will the team’s performance suffer as a result?

A club that’s going to give up a front-line pitcher in May is going to want a ML player now. They’re going to expect someone the caliber of Yunel, Heap, Kelly, Tex or Franceour. They’re not going to go after a minor leaguer who projects to be a star in 2010 or later.

This club looks like it’s in good shape to gradually bring in young position players with solid potential beginning in 2009. But they’re not ready yet. Lil’ Bridge showed that when he was up last.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Hate to do it, but I give the Muts props for stockpiling a few arms in their minor league system. They have Claudio Vargas and Tony Armas Jr. on the farm. Neither one may help the big club this year, and they may really stink if they are called up, but they’re cheap insurance. And frankly they’re about as good as any of the “available” pitchers in the big laagues now.

By KC

May 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Two bullpen observations:

• Blaine Boyer is leading the league in strikeouts by a reliever. He has 22 Ks in 19.2 innings. As this would suggest… he has the stuff the be a successful closer at some point.

• Phil Stockman at Richmond this year: 19.1 innings, 0.93 ERA8 hits, 6 walks, 18 strikeouts, WHIP-0.72.

Last year in an injury shortened season, between AA and AAA, Stockman posted a 1.66 ERA, and struck out 32 batters in 21.2 innings.

Yet… he’s at AAA and Buddy Carlyle is in Atlanta.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Perhaps I’m making something out of just a few at-bats, but it seems like Francoeur isn’t hitting with runners on base lately. I know that he’s hitting .273 with men on this season, which isn’t abysmal, but in the past couple of weeks it seems like a good majority of his hits have come with bases empty. His RBI total has seemingly hit a plateau, with 5 in his last 11 games (which would amount to about 74 rbi in 162 games). Aside from his 2-hr, 7-rbi game, he’s got 1 hr and 13 rbi on the season and a .262 average.

He singled on Sunday after McCann walked in the 2nd inning, and on Saturday drove in two with a single to RF — he’s certainly contributed to the winning streak. But look at what else he’s done: his double last night came with the bases empty. He struck out on Sunday with the bases loaded and no out, and then later in the game flied out to LF in the same situation. On Saturday, he flied out with runners on 1st and 2nd with no out in the 4th, and later popped out to the shortstop with bases loaded and one out.

Anyone else noticing this?

By MVH

May 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

DOB, let us know when you’re going to be on ESPN in the future, I’d have listened.

By KC

May 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Coming into this season, I wasn’t at all worried about this year’s rotation… but I was a little concerned about next year’s rotation.

We didn’t know exactly what to expect from Jurrjens when we broke camp, so it seemed the only established quality starter in the rotation under 40 years of age next year would be Tim Hudson.

But now Jurrjens is impressing, and assuming he keeps up the good work, that’s 2 quality starters for next year that aren’t AARP members.

Now we’ll find out who else is ready for prime time. This could be a blessing in disguise. Well… in terms of the regular season. Losing John Smoltz-the starer definitely hurts your chances once you get to the post-season (if they can).

Which is why I repeat my prior call:

Smoltz can’t hold up to 4 full months of starting. So be it. If Gonzalez can prove he’s healthy, then leave Smoltz on the DL and rest him until September.

6 weeks of Smoltz starting in September and October might help this teams World Series chances more than 4 months of Smoltz in the pen.

By Efrim

May 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

One thing I will say about the Padres and a possible trade is tonights starting pither Randy Wolf. He signed a one year deal and is pitching quite well for them. If they fall out of the race(which could happen quickly considering that they are something like 10 back), I could see a trade for Wolf to beef this rotation up. He is a solid pitcher who has a good K/9 ratio. Gives up his share of dingers, but still, he is a guy that will definetly be on the block come July.

By Overlord

May 7, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Some comments on last night game (LA VS NY):

1. Mets are looking awful (more than usual). Their players look just like braves did 10 days ago. No motivation, lost at the plate. Id expect some big big move if they go 2 more weeks below .530 record.

2. Willie Randolph is feeling the heat, dont be surprised if he is fired.

3. Wright made some unbelievable plays at 3b, but then he made a throw to 1b that it was so high, Delgado (big guy) didnt even jump trying getting it. Vince Scully said about it: “that ball ended up with a different zip code on it”, funny guy.

4. Beltran, Castillo, Delgado and Wright are looking so bad, it is not possible all for will get put of it at the same time, so, Muts offensive struggles will continue, hope they carry into atlanta.

5. We swept LA a few weeks ago, but that teams does not looks like a joke, very solid team, specially the bullpen.

By FJR

May 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Don’t mean to rain on your parade KC, but Carlos Marmol has 28 Ks in 21 innings, for both a higher rate and total than Boyer. Joel Hanrahan has 24 Ks in 16 IP. Jose Valverde has 22Ks in 18 IP (same overal number as Boyer, but fewer IP).

But I agree with the overall sentiment

By FJR

May 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

KC,

MLB would undoubtedly look into Smoltz being on the DL for that long, especially if he was consistently pitching off a mound during the period. If he’s not pitching off a mound, I really doubt he’d be ready to step up and pitch and be the Smoltz you are apparently counting on in september.

By Willy Wally

May 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Just heard on Cowherd that Derek Jeter has dated 6 of the women on the Maxim hottest 100 girls. Damn, that lucky dog leads the league in VORP - Vaginas Over Replacement Player.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Blake, I should’ve called him that. You’re right. Next time….

KC, correct about Cox taking Jurrjens out after six. He pointed to his pitch count (over 100) and said he doesn’t want to overwork the kid. Smart, if you ask me, given that Jurrjens has not pitched a full major league season and hasn’t pitched as many as 150 in any season of pro ball. Plus, had a sore shoulder late last season….

BravesFaninRockies: Not to dismiss the thought on Mets “stockpile,” but Tony Armas Jr. is 30 years old and over the past two seasons has gone 13-17 with an ERA around 5.50.

And statistically speaking, Chuck James has been a better pitcher than Claudio Vargas in the time since Chuck reached the majors.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

kdbanks, have you heard the new Petty/Mudcrutch album? You gotta get it if you haven’t already. Great album. Mudcrutch was his band before the Heartbreakers. Couple of guys from it went to the Heartbreakers, and Petty got the old band together after doing that documentary a year or two ago.

it’s like early Petty, country-tinged California-sounding ’70s rock.

By kdbanks

May 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I have not heard it, thanks for the rec. Definitely love the old Petty sound from Damn the Torpedos. Sounds like that I guess?

Don at EllaGuru - you got that in stock?

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Any statisticians out there? How has Teixeira done for the last year? From what I’ve seen since he joined the Braves, he is just another of Scott Boras’ over-rated clients who, in the real world, isn’t nearly worth what he’s being paid for this year’s production and nowhere near what the experts estimate he will be worth in the future.

Teixeira’s making $12.5M this season. He’ll probably be at least around .300/.400/.530 this season and one of the best defensive first basemen.

Pujols will make $13,870,949 this season. Ryan Howard is at $10M. Berkman is at $14.5M. DLee is at $13.25M. Hard to say Teixeira is overpaid given the going rate for these other top first basemen.

By Tom in NYC

May 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Overlord, I have to agree with most or your points about the Mets. The Castillo signing is looking HORRIBLE (was it just to bring his friend Johan over to the Mets??). The team looks like it has no life out there, playing with no passion. It’s obvious they are missing something. Beltran really backing up his pre-season trash talking.

By the way, that one play David Wright made at third was pretty damn good.

By Cody

May 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

KC…. The only way Smoltz stays out four months is if his arm falls off and they have to sew it back on. Dude you need to stop with this crap it in not going to happen and the Braves are not going to tell John that he can’t pitch. He is a God compared to even the owner. He will pitch because he knows the Braves need him even though that means a move to the pen. He is a 5- inning pitcher now and that hurts the team becasue it ruins the bullpen for days. He has to help the team anyway he can in order for them to get to postseason. it is the close games at the end with the Mets, Phils, D-backs and Cubs were John will be more valuable closing out a sure win over the deadly gaging save marathone combo of Acosta, Ring and Bennett. Get ove rit man Smoltz will not set out and you are putting a lot of ifs out there if he did set for 4 months. Bring him back for what a farwell tour because if he isn’t contributing in some manner then there will be no october.

By KC

May 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

FJR: I will stand corrected. I heard the other day that Boyer was leading the league in Ks by a reliever, and I thought that was still the case. However, I’m not sure where I would check such statistical rankings, so I have no doubt you’re correct, and I am mistaken.

If Smoltz were to remain on the DL few months to prepare for September starting duties, he would not be throwing on the side. That wouldn’t make any sense. He would have to shut it down until mid August. THEN he would start throwing, make a couple minor league starts, and rejoin the rotation.

It would be very much like giving him another off-season to recuperate.

If his shoulder were in fairly good shape (after several months of rest), I don’t see why he couldn’t be effective for a short period of time.

I know he can’t stand up to a full season of starting, but 6 weeks after several months of rest? Seems like it would be a distinct possibility.

Oh, and as for Smoltz’s effectiveness… he did pitched pretty well through that shoulder sorness in April before it became too much. If the shoulder is well enough to allow him to start for a brief period, I have no doubt he would be effective.

If his shoulder wouldn’t hold up to 6 weeks of starting after several months rest… I’m thinking it probably wouldn’t hold up to 4-5 months of closing either.

By Tom in NYC

May 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Forgot to add into my last post. I fully expect the Mets to get it going soon. The team has too much talent to be down for too long.

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

DOB, some seem to think young pitchers must have ace potential to be better than 30-year-old pitchers with ERA’s around 5.50 over the last two years.

(Sorry. Had to make a statement about those who underrate Chuck James.)

By Overlord

May 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Heres an article on USATODAY Chipper Jones’ .400 tear unlikely to last

By geauxbraves2000

May 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

I see Carlos Marmol regularly, he can blow his fast ball right by you, and just about the time you’re ready for it, he will throw his slider and screw you right into the ground. He should be the Cubs closer, IMO.

I know that means nothing on this blog, just reading and ran across his name.

Geaux Braves!!

By Overlord

May 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Shaun you take a look at that article I posted, Im sure youll like that one.

By J.D.

May 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

front page story on SI.com is about Tex becoming a free agent…they give the Bravos 15-1 odds to resign him

By J.D.

May 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

front page story on SI.com is about Tex becoming a free agent…they give the Bravos 15-1 odds to resign him

By Harry

May 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Surpised that so many are praising BC’s handling of the pen last night. Boyer was unhittable in the 8th. Fast ball was 96 with 2 K’s on nasty off speed pitches. Acosta then comes and and tries to blow the game. Please explain why you’d take out a pitcher who is dealing, just for the sake of brining in a “closer”.

By KC

May 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Cody: Wow, thanks for putting me in my place. I will immediately “stop with this crap”… right after I bring up the following.

Smoltz is one of the greatest post-season starters in the history of the game. And if/when he’s healthy enough to pitch, he’s still as dominant as ever.

The last time the Braves even made it to the World Series?

1999.

The last year Smoltz started in October?

1999.

Yes, it would be the best thing for the Braves post-season chances if Smoltz were to pitch out of the pen as soon as he’s ready.

But it would be the best thing for the Braves World Series chances if he could start, even if it’s only for a very short period of time - on the big stage.

It all comes down to the end goal. What is their goal? To make it back to the post-season… or to win another World Series?

If it’s the latter, then I say you roll the dice, do the best you can to get to the post-season with the pieces you have (or can trade for)… and bring him back in for the last round or two of the match.

Having said all of that, I agree with you Cody… it’s never going to happen. I don’t believe for a second that they’ll actually do that. I’m just saying, I wish they’d consider it.

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

KC, maybe Smoltz’s shoulder won’t hold up to closing. But I’m guessing Smoltz and the doctors feel he definitely wouldn’t hold up in the rotation. True, maybe he could with a couple-a few months of rest but what good is Smoltz if he’s not pitching at all for a few months? I’d rather see him close than start for only two or three months.

By Random

May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Daybed Wagmoe: “Aside from his 2-hr, 7-rbi game …”

Actually, the game in which Francoeur had 7 RBI (12 Apr) lasted 2 hours and 44 minutes (plus an hour and thirty-one minute rain delay).

Also, check out what Fanncoeur has to say about who’s to blame for Frenchy’s “lack” of production (hint: “lack” rhymes with “Mac”).

But that’s him (Fanncoeur) saying that, not me, okay, McFann?

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

May 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Totally agree, Shaun!

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Overlord, interesting article.

KC, actually Smoltz made a start in the 2005 NLDS.

But it may not be a bad idea, if at all possible, to have Smoltz in the bullpen. Then gear him up to start over the last month or so of the season and let him start in the post-season. But I just don’t know if something like that would even be possible.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

May 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

YO Little League COACH

Fantasy baseball stats?? Are you freakin’ kidding me??

You gotta proof read those article’s before you start stealing from them.

By Jim

May 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Harry,

Cox has to manage the pen to both keep us ahead/close in each game and to ration the work to preserve the arms of the pitchers. These two tasks are not necessarily complementary.

Boyer is the only arm in the pen right now that gives me confidence when he enters the game. The relatively high ERA is a result of 3 out of the 19 appearances he has made this year. He probably should be pitching the 9th and Acosta the 8th, but, in any event, the bullpen has to be pieced together to get through 3-4 innings each night. Campillo is the next best alternative and at his age, with his repertoire, and with the level of investment that the team has in him, he will probably be used to eat a lot of innings. (Let’s hope he is not just the next Ken Death Ray). Ohman is scary when pitching to right handers, but is best used in an inning where 2 or three of the upcoming 4 hitters are left-handed. Ring is the prototypical situational lefty — a 1 or 2 batter specialist. Acosta is a competent 7th inning guy who is now being forced into more critical situations. Bennet has been used in so many roles for such a limited sample that we don’t know for sure what to expect from him or where he will ultimately fit. Resop is the designated blowout specialist — never to be used in games when we lead or trail by fewer than 7 runs.
If we can get through May with this pen, Cox should be congratulated for one of his best managerial feats.

I expect that Carlyle will be sent down on Saturday for Chuck James to make the start, and that Stockman will replace Resop in the pen as soon as a suitable trade or designation is made.

By Random

May 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

KC — Hear! Hear! I second that emotion! (“6 weeks of Smoltz starting in September and October might help this teams World Series chances more than 4 months of Smoltz in the pen.”)

Provided they can even make it to the postseason with that kind of brinksmanship (reserving Smoltz for September).

(AND, provided that this is his last season, and you, he and Cox/Wren are willing to take the chance of running him into the October turf like little Eight Belles, which you at least do seem willing to do — “he did pitched pretty well through that shoulder sorness in April before it became too much.” — though perhaps I misread. If so, sorry.)

By ncscoots

May 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

KC, so it’s your contention that the good start of a rookie pitcher, who has not yet gone through the league once, and hasn’t topped 150 IP in his career, relieves Glavine from having to do anything more than eat innings? Right.

BTW, maybe having Glavine actually EAT some innings first might be a good idea before relegating him to that status.

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Interesting article here about pitchers who could somewhat hit.

By Overlord

May 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Shaun, i also think TEX is not overpaid. I do think asking for more than 15 a year would be overpaying. As far as what I have seen from him this year, paying more than 18M is out of the question. He might end with good numbers, but it is also important to be consistent. To step up at least 5 of the 6 months of the season, not just 2/3 of the season.

My prediction is that smoltz will be in the bullpen in 3 weeks and will be there for 3 months and theyll try starting if needed and he will succeed if he tries starting in september.

By GeorgetownKid

May 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Mr. O’Brien,

Do you by any chance know of the status of the young pitcher we received from Kansas City in exchange for Pena last spring? I believe his name was Cordier, but I might be incorrect.

From what I read about him at the time, he seemed like a legit prospect who was just having some injury problems.

Thanks!

By Philliesuk

May 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

DOB Chipper may be getting more attention at ESPN these days, but he’s still lacking in the respect department. I happened to look at their ‘fantasy rankings.’ I know, who cares about those anyway…but it was funny to see that Chipper is ranked #29. They claim it’s because of his sore quads. Yeah, right. That’s why Jimmy Rollins is ranked higher. It’s pretty comical to see all of the players above Chipper. Guess he needs to hit .500 to be considered in the same league as Wright.

Speaking of Chipper, when’s the last time he struck out three times in a game? Chase Utley and David Wright both did just that last night.

By Daybed Wagmoe

May 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Actually, the game in which Francoeur had 7 RBI (12 Apr) lasted 2 hours and 44 minutes (plus an hour and thirty-one minute rain delay).Random

Random, you’re right, but I’m not too sure what point you’re trying to make by mentioning that. Could you clarify?

McCann’s to blame for Francoeur’s lack of production? Yeah, okay. Mac’s got a .354 OBP — not too bad. It’s certainly a lot better than Frenchy’s .309 OBP, let alone his .273 average (and .300 OBP) with runners on.

By Random

May 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Cody—

First, I think you reckon without or misunderestimate Smoltz’s burning desire to add to his postseason numbers/performance.

Now that 3k K’s in the rearview mirror, that is probably the one and only remaining personal stamp that he wants to leave on the game.

IF he thought that the Braves actually would make it to the postseason without his services until mid- or late September, I’d bet he’d be more than willing (insistent, actually) to reserve himself for the playoffs.

Second, “the close games at the end with the Mets, Phils, D-backs[?] and Cubs[?]” begin 12 Sep — that certainly fits within KC’s scenario.

Finally — “He has to help the team anyway he can” — agreed. Resting until September may be the best way for him to help the team — again, provided that the Braves can get to the postseason in that scenario.

PS: btw, good stuff from you about Jurrjens — thanks.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

NEW BLOG UP

(come on, 350 responses in 24 hours is all you got?)

By McFann

May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Hey, Random. Where ya been?

Oh, I know that’s what Fanncoeur said, and not you. What a sad, angry little man he was!!

The way he said—allow me to paraphrase here—that McCann has hit into more double plays than Francoeur, made it sound like there was a HUGE difference. Actually, it’s only 3-2. And with RISP, they both have only one.

So, it’s already McCann’s fault that Francoeur doesn’t have more RBI? Well, what’s his excuse when Francoeur bats in front of McCann? Oh, that’s right. He did bat in front of BMac during that big game of his. “Mea culpa”.

As a matter of fact, Francoeur has 8 RBIs when he bats in front of McCann, and 12 RBIs when he bats behind him. Huh…

But why am I giving you the lecture? Haha! You didn’t say it, and the guy that did say it disappeared.

Sorry. ; )

By 22oz

May 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Harry, Boyer has pitched in 19.2 innings out of 31 games so far. He’s already overworked, i think his arm may fall off even sooner than expected if he gets used for 2 innings.

By David O'Brien

May 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Georgetown, I believe that Erik Cordier had yet another elbow surgery this fall, after returning from Tommy John surgery that knocked him out entire 2007 season. I’ll check.

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Overlord, $18M is a lot for anybody, even a player as good as Teixeira.

I’m not sure why you bring up consistency with Tex. Has Teixeira ever had a season in which he does NOT step up for at least five months?

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Harry,

I was listening to the 8th inning. After Boyer struck out the first two guys (on what, 6-7 pitches?) I thought if he could have gotten through it on fewer than 10 pitches he should have had the chance to finish the game.

Bobby wanted to get Acosta some work, obviously, and a chance to get a save, but Boyer sure was dealing.

By BravesFanInRockies

May 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Hey 22oz,

At his current pace, Boyer will get in a mere 94 games this year. Clearly, Bobby’s babying him! :-)

By Shaun

May 7, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Overlord, oh, and I don’t know if $15M is overpaying that much if it’s a team like the Yankees. He’s obviously a great hitter and defender. Probably wouldn’t be wise for most teams to spend that much on one player but for a few teams he’d probably be worth that much for five or six more years (well, at least to the Yankees).

By P-Town Brave

May 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Francoeur is to blame for his own lack of production…

Any person that studies the game of baseball or was a decent hitter in their day (myself) knows that he has a major hitch in his swing where once the pitcher comes to the plate he drops his hands and his back shoulder thus doing what we players or former players call “dipping”..

Thats why he continues to be able to hit balls at his shins but can not hit anything at the belt or above…Until he corrects this, he won’t hit for much power and will continue to top balls on the infield…

For example, look at his double past 3b last night…he dipped and even though he got it by Kouzmanoff he still topped it…Someone who stays on top of the ball like Kotsay would’ve hit a line drive in that position or one over the fence when the pitcher Young clearly made a major mistake. Even though he did get the double, he could’ve done more…

Honestly, this problem is mainly why he has more doubles than homers.

Oh, and Epinephrine…I don’t think anyone really wants to raise their hands high for KJ to be our leadoff guy…

For the person who said something about Kotsay hitting 2nd, thats where he’s done his best work…and eventually Tex is going to have to figure out how to hit lefties this year.

Either way, I’d probably rather go Blanco then Escobar v RHP and Escobar then Diaz v LHP….that just seems to be the logical decision…

Oh, and as much as I don’t like KJ hitting 1st and everyone thinks I have been ragging on him…I’d most likely bat him 7th and Francoeur 8th v RHP.

By BravesRule

May 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Epinephrine…I don’t think anyone really wants to raise their hands high for KJ to be our leadoff guy…P-Town

well you got that all wrong . I’ll do that, as did several last night after that post. I don’t need you speaking for me little man, especially with what you usually say.