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Braves return and summer’s not far behind

By Carroll Rogers | Friday, March 28, 2008, 10:48 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Top of the morning to you, and happy first day of summer — hey, just going along with Jill Vejnoska’s very fine and enthusiastic story about getting baseball back at Turner Field tonight.

Really, these two games are kind of weird, exhibition games but at the home stadium. Not as many fans around and the final score still doesn’t matter.

But it’s still a cool time. The stadium is back in business. No more driving past Turner Field and thinking how sad the place seems with nothing going on inside, no reason to turn the lights on. Also interested to see what the new seats look like behind home plate. And to see if pitchers are aghast at the foul territory they just lost.

And besides, this weekend brings back one of my funniest, most embarrassing moments, that I still have to laugh at.

Ten years ago or so, the AJC bosses sent me out to cover these games to give the beat writer a rest, and I suppose, to see if I could handle the rigors of covering the team for the AJC (had done so for the Macon Telegraph, but a different deal.) What did I do with that opportunity? I referred to Curtis Pride as Charlie Pride. In print. I did…. And my only consolation was that it was in small print in one of our old game report boxes.

Oh, and that they gave me the beat job anyway. Amazing, ain’t it?!

So here we go again, this time giving DOB a chance to decompress. What a nice job he did with spring training, eh? And to add to the accolades he’s won for this here blog, he just racked up a newsroom award yesterday for his work here. Maybe the check he gets will help offset some of those CDs he loaded up on in spring training. Well done.

So me? I’ll just be dotting the i’s and t’s for him these next two days. I’d expect the final cuts to be announced after the game tonight and one more trade to be announced any time now. I will keep you posted, of course.

If they trade for a bench player, I’d say Brent Lillibridge would likely be the guy sent back to Richmond. Martin Prado is pretty well assured of making the team as a backup infielder, at least until Omar Infante returns to health.

Unless he’s part of a deal, or unless the Braves trade for a backup first baseman, Scott Thorman would be there. An interesting call will be as a fourth outfielder between Gregor Blanco and Josh Anderson, and backup catcher, where it would seem Corky Miller has the edge over Brayan Pena and Clint Sammons. And is there a chance Joe Borchard makes this team?

The bullpen figures to be Rafael Soriano, Peter Moylan, Manny Acosta, Will Ohman and now Chris Resop, Blaine Boyer, and Royce Ring. Then you could have Jeff Bennett with a roster spot as long relief/spot starter with John Smoltz opening the season on the DL.

All of this will be sorted out shortly. It’s time. As for who might be available to join the bench on short notice? I just saw where the Diamondbacks were sending Trot Nixon down. Not sure if Nixon, 33, is exactly what the Braves would have in mind — and he hit .222 this spring — but he did spend most of spring playing first base.

DOB reminded me yesterday that Jair Jurrjens will be pitching tonight against his beloved Indians, the team he faced in his major league debut (August 15, four runs allowed in seven innings of a loss) and got his first major league win against August 21 when he held them to one run on one hit in 6 2/3 innings. Both those outings were against ace Fausto Carmona, against whom Jurrjens held his own, and here he’ll go against Carmona tonight.

Jurrjens got his first major league win by beating Carmona 2-1 in a game Carmona went all eight innings for the Indians.

Jurrjens also beat the Indians with three perfect innings in a spring training game March 5. So what a perfect way for him to get a feel for pitching at Turner Field, against an old nemesis.

I know you guys can’t help but have noticed what happened to so many former Braves this week. Get a load of what it looks like to list them all together: former Braves who got released or sent down to the minors this week: Marcus Giles, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Kyle Davies, Pete Orr, Ryan Langerhans, Chris Reitsma, Rudy Seanez - and not too long ago were Horacio Ramirez, and from our camp Javy Lopez. Am I missing anybody?

Does that mean John Schuerholz and Frank Wren knew exactly what they were doing by letting those guys walk?

Speaking of former Braves, and this time it’s actually complimentary. It’s official. The pitcher the Braves will face in their season-opener in DC in Odalis Perez. This is a guy who went 8-11 with a 5.57 ERA for the Royals last year, giving him the highest ERA of a year ago of any projected Opening Day starter.

He had visa problems getting to Nats camp from the Dominican this spring and didn’t pitch his first game until March 15. He went 0-2 with a 4.96 ERA in three Grapefruit League starts but manager Manny Acta says he deserves it.

“He won more games than any one of our starters last year in the big leagues,” Acta told reporters. “He’s the only one of our staff who has won 15 games before and he has pitched well in spring training.”

If you have to justify the move, perhaps it’s not a great one. And this says quite a bit about what’s going on with their rotation - John Patterson was released and Shawn Hill is still having arm problems, for starters.

I do recall, from back in the day, that Perez has a thing for dramatic moments, remember how well he used to pitch coming on in relief when he first came up? Maybe there’s still some of that in him. We shall see. Very soon!

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By bshaf

March 28, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

first first

By dizzle

March 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

first?

By dizzle

March 28, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

first?

By Big Easy

March 28, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Nice job, Carroll, pinch-hitting for DOB.

Ahhh, baseball is here.

~E~

By TennesseePaul

March 28, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the blog Carroll. I’m ready for this season to begin. I don’t remember past Springs taking this long…

GO BRAVES!!

By Bubba

March 28, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Go Braves. Cant wait to get the season started!

By ssiscribe

March 28, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Top of the morning, denizens and here we are, at the threshold of the new season. A fine job by DOB all through camp, and a fine job by CR with today’s blog as we get set to kick this thing off for real Sunday night …

I expect one more minor deal between now and Sunday, likely for Brayan Pena, whose versatility and bat are marketable, one would think. As discussed the other day, I think Lillibridge makes the team unless a trade nets more bench help and Scott Thorman finds himself still here and not dealt away. In that case, the Lil’Bridge goes to Richmond for more work on hitting breaking balls.

From the bottom of the last blog, I have regular-season predictions I made on my blog Sunday night. While I’m not trying to pimp my blog (pimp my blog? Sounds like a new TV show, like “Pimp My Ride” … but I digress) … I’m too lazy to re-type all that, and I don’t want this post to be a mile long.

So, here’s my take on the regular season

I have no clue if that will format correctly. Apologizes in advance if it does not; maybe I’ll just copy and paste it in here after lunch if the formatting doesn’t jive.

Speaking of which, time to eat.

The Scribe abides.

—30—

By Lew

March 28, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Carroll-Ten years? What were you, twelve when you started? BTW-You’ve got mail.

Congrats to DOB on his latest award.

Tell Chipper his deer painting will arrive by the end of next week. He’ll like it.

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Trot Nixon? That’s interesting. He’d be a solid, veteran bat. How much would that cost us?

By richbrave

March 28, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Braves keep Prado and Blanco, Miller, Resop, Boyer, Bennett(sent down after Smoltz returns). They send down, trade, or try waivers on Ring, Thorman, Lillibridge(sent down after Infante returns), Anderson, Sammons, Pena. They bring in via trade or waivers back-up 1st base, and bench bat.

Regarding trades or waivers, Thorman, Pena go only if the organization gets what they need in value for them. Otherwise, Thorman or Pena stay as bench player. Ring goes no matter what.

By BT

March 28, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Very well written Carroll. You do a great job at AJC as well. DOB can’t be the only star!

By Lew

March 28, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

The latest poll question-How will the Braves begn the season-with a win or a loss. The way these questions have been going recently, I’m surprised they didn’t include a c.Neither category.

By Murphy

March 28, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Thanks for filling in Carroll. Agree with you on all of the ex-Braves except Salty of course. He is just gong down to get more playing time. I think most of us would still love to have him…as for me, not at the expense of Tex, but would love to still have him here.

By DCbrave

March 28, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Carroll - What do you mean by “summer’s not far behind?” :-)

By jack

March 28, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

can’t wait to ply mets to shut their mouths

By Marietta Dawg

March 28, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Great job Carroll and happy Friday. I can’t wait to get this season started, Go Braves!

Also, I hope that the AJC bans Bravesfan79 since his comments were very inappropriate.

By Knowitall

March 28, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79,

I got your chicken wings right here. Name the time and the place moron.

By MGL

March 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Can’t understand DOB. He gets an all expenses paid vacation to the wonderful world of Mickey Mouse for six weeks and then takes a couple of days off to “de-compress.” He’s probably sitting there watching the Disney channel, trying for a slow withdrawal.

By BX

March 28, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

I actually like the idea of Trot Nixon.

Any chance of it though?

By Dan

March 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

I thoroughly enjoy reading both DOB’s and CR’s blogs, however you people who seem to get a hard-on over posting first need to get a life.

By richbrave

March 28, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

MGL:

Made me laugh. Funny post. FUNNY.!!

By geauxbraves2000

March 28, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

The latest poll question-How will the Braves begn the season-with a win or a loss. The way these questions have been going recently, I’m surprised they didn’t include a c.Neither category

Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are :)

Geaux Braves!!

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

I just called the office and BravesFan79 comments are coming down. I have no problem with people complaining about the new tv situation but we need to show respect around here. So let’s let it drop and not give it credence by responding to it further.

thanks Lew! I quit counting the last 10 years. ok maybe 15. to me 1993 doesn’t seem that long ago, you know?

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79, that was one of the most moronic posts I’ve seen in a while. If you’d left out your racist diatribe, it might have made some sense. I do hate what’s happened to WTBS since Time Warner/AOL took over. I’d say they’re totally clueless about baseball.

Bravesfan79, perhaps you should take your stuff over to the Terence Moore part of the paper. It usually manages to attract you Klan types.

By MGL

March 28, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Twenty first? Does that work for you Dan?

By radoncbravesfan

March 28, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Braves fan since 1966 living now in Minnesota, followed this blog all spring training, first post. Very informative.

Over/under on IQ of Bravesfan79, 50. Waiting on DOB predictions.

By Alan

March 28, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Great job, CR. Between you and DOB, we Braves fans are treated like royalty. Thanks! I love your Curtis/Charlie Pride story. As I recall, Charlie played in the minor leagues for a while, so it was an honest mistake, right? These next couple of days will be very interesting. I’m sure you’ll keep us posted. Thanks again for your great work.

By your phreaking daddy

March 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

‘79 is right…. atlanta is a very ‘dark’ city and will revel in black shows. look for tbs to go to reruns of ‘the jeffersons’ and ‘sanford and son’ soon to boost there veiwership in ‘blacklanta’.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

“Now playing left field and acoustic guitar, Charlie Pride!”

I love it. Actually, I think Charlie was an aspiring baseball player…

Once, as editor of an association newspaper, I let a photo of Newt Gingrich slip through with a photo caption that read “John Lewis, U.S. Congressman (D-GA) and Civil Rights Leader.” Newt actually got a kick out of it.

By Murphy

March 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Haha. I agree with you Dan, but I got blasted when I made the same comment. I just skip those and move on to those with something to actually contribute.

By McFann

March 28, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Lew, your 11:57 was great.

How about some trivia? I got a couple good Q’s. (And don’t assume the obvious, just ‘cause it’s me…)

Number one shouldn’t be too hard, but it’s hard enough:

Who hit the first home run of the 2007 season?

Number 2: On what day, against which team, off what pitcher did Juan Encarnacion hit the final home run of his career?

Good luck.

(Oh, and that was a bit much Bravesfan79, but TBS does show crud.)

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Hey, just read the connector repaving is being post-poned a week….that’s the good news. rain in the forecast is the bad news. but hey, maybe we’ll get the game in first.

By your phreaking daddy

March 28, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

yeah, censor ‘79 because you don’t like what he says or thinks. you people are what is bad about America now…. free speech; as long as the group agrees.

you people suck. eat sh1t and die.

By Paul Bowers

March 28, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Good job, Carroll. Please, please, not Nixon. He is so injury-prone, so not what we need. Josh or Blanco would be so much better, giving us the element of speed off the bench. Question, anyone: What does Resop’s secondary pitches look like? Is he wild or does he have decent control?

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Yay Carroll.

I think you do a great job filling in for DOB. I wonder if most Braves fans realize how lucky we are to have you 2.

Dan Don’t worry about the people that are obsessed with being first. This may be their only opportunity to be first at anything, ever.

From the previous blog:

KC and Thrillhouse I take no offense to your response. Nor do I take any drugs, but flashbacks from the 70’s are always possible….oooh look at all the pretty colors….

I love the beginning of each season. The teams are undefeated and the pitchers have .000 ERAs. It’s the time when anything is still possible.

Carroll, since you had the offensive post removed, feel free to remove my response as well.

By TheCutMan

March 28, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Me too. Nice work Carroll as you know your baseball and your efforts are appreciated.

By whatever

March 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

elsewhere on this website it’s said:

“When he calls a baseball game on TBS, Chip Caray is supposed to play the role of neutral, national broadcaster. But when he calls a game on Peachtree TV, Caray is free to play the role of loyal, local broadcaster.”

Excuse me? Free to be loyal to the Braves—Chip Carey? As soon as Fox national or ESPN comes calling, that guy’s out the door so fast you won’t believe it. The Braves are a stepping stone for him, isn’t that obvious?

By Paul Bowers

March 28, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Trot Nixon. NOT what we need. The speed that Anderson or Blanco would give us off the bench would be more desirable than Trot(injured)Nixon. Also: Question… What does Resop’s second pitch look like?

By Steve C.

March 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

your phreaking daddy,

Happy Friday to you too!

By flange1

March 28, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Carroll,

Thanks for the new blog and the removal of the pathetic post.

Lets talk some baseball!

I am still hoping for Morgan Ensberg, but I am not holding my breath.

I am ready for this season to start.

Braveheart, did you email KC about Sunday night? Love to have you there!

By Renegator

March 28, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

I think people are looking at Nixon as the backup 1B to replace Thorman. Not to replace Anderson or Blanco.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

We got a picture of DOB earlier. Where’s the snapshot of Carroll?

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

the deal nixon has in place now would have paid him $750,000 if he stayed in the majors for some period of time, like two months. he has until today to tell the Dbacks if he’ll accept a minor league assignment. …don’t know if the braves have interest, just telling you he’s out there.

By Statesboro Brave

March 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Any word on a channel in the Statesboro, GA area picking up the games that are being broadcasted on Peachtree TV?

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

and your phreaking daddy….a movieline comes to mind for you, tho i can’t remember what movie it was from….but here goes: YOU MUST CHILL!

we are what’s wrong with america. whatever dude. crawl out of your dark hole and enjoy the day, would you?

By etownbrave

March 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

HELP! I live in NE Georgia near SC. How can we get the games that are on PTV? I see that they have agreements for some of the cable networks but not for DISH or DirectTV. When does the radio network start airing games? Out here in the country we can’t get 94.1 out of Atlanta. Don’t have hi-speed so mlb net stuff not an option.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

I just read some other parts of the Sports Webpage. I always go here first.

I enjoyed Jill’s article. Yes! It is pure unadulterated bliss.

I also liked Furman’s column. Maybe we should name the Gwinnett team the Crackers. We can be just a politically incorrect to rednecks as we are to Native Americans.

By Brave4life-Matt

March 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Speaking of idiots and television programing… I bought a HD television a couple of months ago for the primary purpose watching the Braves in HD. I’ve been counting down the seconds since I heard about the ESPN Sunday night opener.

Anyways, back to the idiots. Comcast has yet to pick up in high definition the old TBS channel 17 which is now WPCH. WPCH will show 40+ games in HD this year and I won’t get to see them except in crappy old school standard definition. If you don’t know already, standard def programing looks terrible through a HD tele.

I’ve called and complained several times and have been told that Comcast and Time Warner have not worked out a deal to show the WPCH station in HD. What a bunch of crap! As if either one of these companies doesn’t rake in millions and millions in profit daily. So they have to screw Braves fans out of the HD viewing that we work so hard for.

I know you’re saying “why don’t you get a dish?” Well, the townhouse neighborhood I am in is jungle of trees. I would switch in heartbeat but the dish guy said “you gotta cut them trees first.” I give Comcast too much money as it is and the fact that WPCH can be received for free over the air in HD if I set up an antenna drives me crazy! I pay Comcast so I don’t have to have a big freaking antenna.

So please for the love of God and the Braves in HD, call Comcast everyday like me and complain until they put WPCH into the HD channels!

By bsj

March 28, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

I’m with you, Flange1. Let’s fire it up! A veteran like Morgan Ensberg or Trot Nixon would definitely be a better option than Thorman at this point. Isn’t Craig Wilson available?

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

The more I think about Trot Nixon backing up first base, the less I like the idea. It reminds me too much of Craig Wilson.

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Don’t really see how Nixon does what Wren is looking for, so I don’t think he will be the signing that the Braves will make. He hit 3 home runs in 302 at bats last season - how does he give us extra pop on the bench? I know he is experienced, but Thorman hit 11 HR in 287 AB in 2007. does not look like an upgrade at this stage of Trot’s career, although many people seem to come to the Braves and have a second lease of life. Fine if he would turn out to be a Matt Diaz, but what if he is a (shudder) Wilson or Woodward?

By Bravesfan79

March 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

No im not racist, i have several black friends and the majority of my customers over the years have been black. I probably should be racist thou as i know more about black pple than most white pple ever will….considering i worked public housing complexes for 7 years of my life throught New Orleans and Atlanta. How many other pple on this blog spent years of their life having to daily outsmart dumb thugs, and carjackers just to make a living?? So was it REALLY just chance that everytime something crazy happened it was a black male?? Am i racist or do i just speak the truth!? Truth is theres something seriously wrong with black culture, at least im not afraid to speak the truth!
When i walk thru gang infested apts in clayton or Atlanta (before they tore down alot of the housing projects) Its not exactly Jesus loves me the little kids are singing..its sad to see little 4 year old girls shaking their butt and singing along to the TRASH that their parents are listening 2!
(after seeing everything i have theres no WAY u cant tell me music dosent influence a culture!) I stay strapped and am more likely to takeout the next looser that thinks hes a thug than i am to get in a fight with a redneck at some bar.
I just speak the truth about TBS and the CRAP that they now show. Their lack of loyalty makes me sick. (the reason im not a Hawks fan anymore)
And does anyone REALLY think that tyler perry show is really funny? common stop kidding yourselves..

Tyler Perry is NO Richard Pryor…and is only in the position to have his own lame shows because he IS black! Equal oppotunity…sometimes it works and was established as a great idea……but on the downside sometimes u get crap like Billy Knight of the Hawks and house of Payne! I never knew Ted had a brother named Reggie that took over the company for him? BTW…look for Clayton to become a even BIGGER s** now that more kids will drop out of high school to hustle since theres no point in going to highschool anymore. I feel sorry for all the QUALITY people/families down there.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

“YOU MUST CHILL” is conjuring images of Anthony Michael Hall. Weird Science, maybe? I don’t know, but phreakin’ daddy needs to do it.

I’m so geeked for the season that I’m actually worried about who the Braves have at the end of their bench. But I think Infante is the answer when he gets back in a month. Between now and then, we can make do with Thorman and Prado.

By Robert

March 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

If anyone didn’t read the peachtree tv article, they are counting on the Braves games to attract viewers to their station more popular. Is it me or is that the same thing TBS did. I guess once us Braves fans make it popular, the will quit shwing games to in order to show re-run TV shows. I grew up in New Jersey I fell in love with the Braves through TBS, despite my dad trying to convert me into a Yankee fan, that was in 1990. It saddens me other kids outside the atlanta and southern area will not have the same oppertunity.

By McFann

March 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Thanks for your 1:17, Carroll. I don’t want this to go political on us (please no, Dear Lord!), but I’m so sick of the “We are what’s wrong with America” bit!

By bsj

March 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

I was wrong. John Cusack in “Say Anything”.

By Efrim

March 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Get Bravesfan79 off this blog for life. Find his IP address and ban it.

The comments you’re making are not for this blog man. Not something I want to be apart of.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79 If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like duck, chances are good that it’s a duck. Unless you want to quack about Baseball, please take it somewhere else.

By DonCoburleone

March 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

So rain is still in the forecast in DC for Sunday nights game?

By Steeledawg

March 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

“You must chill”- Lloyd Dobler Say Anything

By bsj

March 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

It would appear that the web geeks at the ajc have been slow to act.

I think it’s always interesting that the first words out of a racist white person’s mouth is “I’m not racist”. You’re the one who brought up the chicken wings and collard greens dude. Get a life.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Help me out, someone: if we place a player (I’m thinking Thorman) on waivers, how long does he hang out there before clearing?

I really don’t see anyone picking him up if they’ve got to move on it in a short period of time.

Anyone know?

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79

The falcons blog is a couple doors down. This is actually the Braves blog. I’m sure you just got turned around…

Your phreaking daddy I agree with you partially, but once again the falcons blog is a couple doors down

and carroll how bout it - now that DOB’s identity is leaked (although it could have been sleuthed long ago), are you going to follow suit?

By eware

March 28, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

When did John Rocker start posting on the blog??

By Braves20

March 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Happily have subscribed to MLB Extra Innings and await the season. The racist piece had been pulled by the time I hit the blog. But will say this. Every TV in our house was programmed to “skip”, pun intended, TBS after they announced they were pulling the plug on the Braves last year.

I did note a piece on TBS baseball in the local rag today. After taking a cheap shot at Skip Caray, the guy writing the piece said that son Chip would be joined on their Sunday games by, among others, Ron Darling.

Even if you didn’t like Skip, he will seem like a day at the beach after you hear Darling drone on for an inning or two.

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Wow. A new season means, hope, predictions, and oh yeah, a massive influx of idiots. Oh well folks, it was fun while it lasted. Hopefully people can have the good sense to ignore the morons crawling out of the woodwork. We can’t stop them from coming here, but we can talk past them and resume our good dialogue.

I, for one, am pretty excited to see our projected lineup in a game where everyone is actually trying. We’ll have to wait til Sunday to start tallying run production, but I’m betting we get a sneak preview tonight.

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

I was going to name my dog “Chill”, but it definitely doesn’t fit his personality.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Personally, I think Michael Douglas pulled off Bravesfan79’s act better in Falling Down:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T9ckjELRL6Y&feature=related

By Efrim

March 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

DonC

Cloudy, but I don’t think the game will be cancelled. Would be a real bummer if it was.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79 orders breakfast:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk

By timmy

March 28, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

I was just reading on MLB Trade Rumors that the Reds may be shopping Ryan Freel. He is versatile, plays 2nd, 3rd, and all 3 OF positions and is right handed, we dont have any righties on bench without Infante. Trade Thorman and a prospect for him. I know they may need a 1st baseman, and he would do pretty good in all those jet stream parks in the NL Central. Just a thought

By bsj

March 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

I believe everyone knows a “Bravesfan79”. Those types of people know the world is out to get them. No one knows right from wrong like they do. No one else is as smart with respect to how the world works. And they dmned sure need a gun to settle things when they have a disagreement. These types are walking through a post-Apocalyptic world, with only their smarts, God, and a gun to get them through. Good luck, dude. You’ll need it.

By Lunatic Fringe

March 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

I am not a racist. I dislike way more whites than blacks, and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with their race. A*******holes come in all races, and genders, too.

GO BRAVOS.

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vfyw1hAkgfY

I found a video of bravesfan79 on another site. he was very flagellic with his rhetoric there as well.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Perfect, Braveheart. Classic.

By slider29

March 28, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Blog’s definitely a little crazy today…Did anyone notice that Peter Gammons picked the Bravos to go to the WS this morning on Mike and Mike. He said they were the best team he’d seen all spring.

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Freel has a $3 Million contract for 08 ($4 Mill for 09) - can’t see the Braves paying that for a bench sitter that has not played a single major league game at First Base, also he is just coming back from surgery and it would be a big gamble.

He can certainly be a super utility player, having played mostly outfield, but with a good few games at 3B, but the lack of experience at first would not make him a back up for Tex, bearing in mind that Omar Infante has also not played First in his career, I can’t see this move happening.

He also does not have the bat that Wren has said he is looking for, somebody who has hit 22 HR in 1764 career AB’s would not strike fear into opposing managers when he stepped on deck.

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Im gonna have to rent falling down after the game tonight. Can’t stay up too late though, as I have seats to the game tomorrow. And did you know - cause you might have, so forgive me if that’s the case- but the tickets I have INCLUDE (don’t get on me for the caps) $10 worth of food beverage or merchandise concession, which is a new thing this year apparently, because I never heard of it

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

By the way - you can still post comments on the Peachtree article on the AJC site, just been there to have (another) moan about Time Warner disenfranchising so many Braves fans.

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

By the way - you can still post comments on the Peachtree article on the AJC site, just been there to have (another) moan about Time Warner disenfranchising so many Braves fans.

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

By the way - you can still post comments on the Peachtree article on the AJC site, just been there to have (another) moan about Time Warner disenfranchising so many Braves fans.

By 3trees

March 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Great job on the blog and on the “layin’ low” the 2 would-be blog killers, Carroll. Startling and honest confessions on here today.

Good luck to JJ and the Braves tonight, but save some for the regular season. We gotta find a way to keep Bennett around other than Smoltz on the DL.

Home opener 3 days away!

Go Braves!

By Stuart

March 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Speaking of PTV, are the games that are on PTV going to be available on MLB Extra Innings/MLBTV in regions that are considered Braves ‘home’ regions.

I live in Chattanooga, and the braves and reds are blacked out on those packages since the games are on the ‘local’ FSN stations. Is that going to be exempted?

Also, FSN and Sportsouth are available in HD, but not on Comcast up here, how terrible is that? At least the opener on ESPN will be in HD, so I get a clear picture of the Braves spanking of Odalis.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Fanxeira, I think Bravesfan79 said that earlier. He was just repeating himself in the video. He’s very… umm… eloquent.

By David-ATL14

March 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

* Attention Braves fans*

The braves have claimed Reuben Gotay off waivers from the Mets.

He will be a bench player for the Bravos.

I’m sure CR will confirm shortly.

By tvsportscaster

March 28, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Braves get bench help, per nydailynews, the Braves claim Ruben Gotay off waivers.

By flange1

March 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79,

I really do not care about your past work history or your working relationship with people of any color.

I would appreciate you sticking to baseball, music, BBQ etc.

We do not get into political issues, social issue, religious issues on this blog.

If you are interested in talking about who should be on the Braves bench, I am all ears, if not, then

SHUT UP!

By TJ

March 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Have you guys seen this? According to a Met’s blog called mets.lohudblogs.com:

This should make all you Ruben Gotay supporters happy. He was claimed on waivers by the Braves. Steven Register was returned to the Colorado Rockies and Anderson Hernandez was optioned to Triple-A New Orleans.

I have NO IDEA if this is true.

By Brave4life-Matt

March 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Does anyone else feel my No-Braves-in-HD-on-PeachtreeTV-on-Comcast-PAIN?

Am I the only one??? Song for the day… Nirvana… since DOB was absent.

By Efrim

March 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Braves claim Ruben Gotay off waivers

By Direct TV Viewer

March 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Is Peachtree TV available on Direct TV (Atlanta Market)? If not, does anyone know which channel the Braves will be on?

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Fanxeira, does that come with all seats or what? I hadn’t heard that.

By DAP

March 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

we picked up gotay, a infield utility man that doesnt play 1st…why? anybody know why we need another guy like this?

By ssiscribe

March 28, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Sounds like the Lil’Bridge is Richmond-bound. New York Post Mets’ beat writer Bart Hubbach is reporting the Braves have picked up Ruben Gotay, who the Mets placed on waivers two days ago.

Gotay played in 98 games last season for the Mets, hitting .295 (190 at-bats) with four homers and 24 RBIs. Twelve of his 56 hits were for doubles; add in the four dingers, and 25 percent of Gotay’s hits last year were for extra bases.

Gotay played 37 games at second base in 2007, five at shortstop and two at third base. He appeared in 81 games at second base for Kansas City in 2005.

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By bsj

March 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

It may be that I’ve paid a little more attention this spring than last(I don’t think so), but I agree with Peter Gammons. If what we’re worried about at this stage is who is filling out the end of the bench, I’d say we’re ready to hit the ground running Sunday night. We’ve got depth at all positions (except possibly first base), but particularly starting pitching. We’ve got the right mix of ultra-competitive veterans and hungry youngins’. I predict a NL pennant this year. I’m more excited about this team than I have been since the late nineties. Let’s get it rolling!

By DAP

March 28, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

i just read an oriols thread saying they might want gotay. would we trade gotay for loretta or could we somehow pry millar away from them. loretta and millar and both play 1st and 3rd pretty well.

By Renegator

March 28, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

I feel your no Braves in HD pain. I think that all home games will be broadcast in HD on channel 755. That is a special HD channel for Comcast subscribers but it is only for home games.

Hey, it’s better than nothing.

Does Gotay place 1B or why did we get him?

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

This should mean that Lill will get to resume a steady diet of breaking pitches in the minors.

Gotay-pretty good year last year. Solid OBP and average, esp. for utility.

Still doesnt change the Pena and Thorman picture. Still looking for that bat.

By George G.

March 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79 is probably a Mets fan.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

but the tickets I have INCLUDE (don’t get on me for the caps) $10 worth of food beverage or merchandise concession Are you going to get a hotdog or nachos with that?

By TJ

March 28, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

DAP, assuming it’s accurate (and there were sure a lot of questions about whether the Mets ever even waived Gotay, as I recall): anyway, I think it has to indicate some other trade in the works; such as, a trade possibly involving Prado.

Just guessing, of course.

By flange1

March 28, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

If the Gotay thing is true, it could be that the Braves are considering a Prado trade. Then after Infante comes back you have Gotay and Infante as middle infielders.

Other than that, I don’t see it!!!

By Braves20

March 28, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Prelude to another trade? Gotay plays all the infield spots but 1b. Seems like we have a few of that type.

By MGL

March 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Brave4life-Matt Sounds like your song for the day should be “cry me a river”

By jay

March 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Braves have claimed Gotay. The Mets can either pull him back or let him go outright to the Braves. If the Mets pull him back then there is a possibility of a trade that may take place for Gotay.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

I think ssiscribe may be right. Let Lil’Bridge get some more seasoning at AAA where he can hit everyday. I don’t think picking up Gotay is the last move we’ll see.

By Robert

March 28, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

We got Gotay so Lillibridge can go to Richmond to learn how not to strike out so much.

The kid does K alot

By ssiscribe

March 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Pure speculation here, but anybody out there think maybe Prado could be part of a deal this weekend? He’s had a great spring, has nothing else to prove at Triple-A and could be, packaged with Thorman, enough to bring in a big bat to back up Tex at first.

Infante will be back in two or three weeks. IF Prado were to be moved, you have Gotay and Lillibridge as the backup middle infielders to start the season, then Lillibridge goes to Richmond when Infante comes off the DL.

Just speculating …

The Scribe abides.

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By ssiscribe

March 28, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

TJ and Flange, I’m thinking the same way, guys. Doesn’t seem to make much sense otherwise to bring in Gotay when you already have Prado and Lillibridge, and Infante coming back soon.

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By tvsportscaster

March 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

My guess is the Braves didn’t think Lillibridge was ready for the big leagues, so that got Gotay for the other back up infield spot and Lilli will go to Richmond. As to what happens when Infante comes back, that will be interesting. My guess is there will still be a trade this weekend involving either Pena or Thorman.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

I agree, flange1. I smell a trade involving Prado and/or Lillibridge. But for whom? No way we get Millar here. I assume he makes too much money to be a backup 1st baseman. Don’t know about Loretta moneywise, but does he have the pop we’re looking for?

By George G.

March 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute…what’s this I hear about the Braves picking up Ruben Gotay?

By TJ

March 28, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Jay, Mets can’t pull him back.

By tkg

March 28, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I live in B’ham area and called DirecTV this morning about adding Peachtree TV. Dude told me it wasn’t showing up as something that was happening now, but said he’d send a request that DirecTV look into adding it to their channel lineup.

He figures — as do I — that many people will call them and request to have it added. Maybe that will spark some movement.

If you’re a DirecTV subscriber, call 1-800-DirecTV and speak to a human. Tell them you’d like to make a station request addition. Maybe if enough people do it …

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

I hope we don’t trade Prado I think he can be great for this team…he’s been phenomenal. If anything, claim Gotay, and then trade him for someone like Loretta to play 1B and hit off the bench.

By Goodoleboy58

March 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Man is it baseball season yet???

Answer ooohh so close…

Here’s a question for ya..

Who do you think will be the first Brave to hit a homer this year?

My money is on Chipper.. what say you?

By flange1

March 28, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

ssiscribe,

great minds think alike!

By George G.

March 28, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

I wonder if the Gotay thing means that Infante is taking longer to heal than expected???

—69—

By ernesto

March 28, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

I like Gotay but he’s not much with the leather, so I think you’re not going to see Prado go anywhere.

Prado and Gotay nice upgrade over Orr and Woodsuck

By BT

March 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Interesting thoughts Scribe. Glad to see you active on the blog again.

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Everything’s coming up Thrillhouse44 No I don’t think it comes with all seats, but definitely with certain sections. These are in the Hank Aaron area. Personally I would just get the $1 seat and sit somewhere better, but work just got the season tix in yesterday and for some reason gave me some.

AGTFan The plan is my girlfriend and I combine our tickets and go splitsies on a beer. If that fails, I’ll always have my trusty flask. Look for the Fanxeira / BBFCFM shirt. Not for the blogs sake, but because a shirt like that would be the jam

By TennesseePaul

March 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Check this out

By TJ

March 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

I still don’t see us trading Lillibridge. Neither Prado nor Gotay is really a shortstop, and I don’t think Bobby likes playing “non shortstops” at shortstop unless he has to. Anyway, if we’re dealing Lilly, it better be a pretty good haul, IMO, not just a mediocre bench bat.

God, we’re not all just a little hungry for baseball news, are we?

By OrlandoFan

March 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Don’t know much about Gotay, but maybe the Braves were just trying to stop the Mets from sneaking him back to the minors and having him to call up later when one of their many injury-prone semistars goes down. Just a thought. Anyway, I suspect they think Lillibridge is a little green and wanter a more proven bridge (no pun) until Infante returns.

By ernesto

March 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

If the O’s wanted Gotay couldn’t they have claimed him before the Braves? I thought waivers were a worst record first kind of deal.

By BravesFanInRockies

March 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Don’t see Lil’ Bridge on the block. With Gotay, you have another piece for a trade involving some combination of him, Pena, Thorman, Prado, maybe Ring? None of these guys has to be on the 25-man until Sunday, right? So there’s time to mix and match with some other team.

By KC

March 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Just wanted to extend the invite another time or two over the weekend…

OPENING NIGHT AT FOX SPORTS GRILL IN ATL:

A group of us blog acquaintances are getting together Sunday evening to take in opening night from the Fox Sports Grill at Atlantic Station in mid-town.

Anyone is welcome. If you’d like to join us, just email me at embassypro@hotmail.com

By TJ

March 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Andy, if Houston wanted Gotay, they could’a just claimed him (they had the choice ahead of ATL), so I doubt they’ll trade Loretta for him. But who knows… something’s in the works, I think.

Scribe, btw, if I made the right connection… I like your blog. Good writing. Tough to compete with Grand Master D(OB), of course, but good luck with it.

By David O'Brien

March 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Lil’ Bridge struggled against the slider all spring. Just needs more time in the minors. I’m not out there today so I don’t know what they’re saying, but I’d suspect Lillibridge is going to be sent down.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

yes on reuben gotay friends. braves claimed him off waivers. frank wren just confirmed it. they are about to come out of a meeting. more details in a bit.

By Shamus Thacker

March 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

I can still remember the Stone Age, when most Braves games were available by radio ONLY.

That’s why you don’t hear me carpin’ about games not in HD. I’m glad just to be SEEING them. I wouldn’t complain if the games were in black-n’-white, and could only be viewed through a chicken wire fence.

PLAY BAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Gotay must be trade bait. He’s roughly the same player as Prado. It doesn’t make much sense.

It’s kinda amusing having our own little chapter of the KKK here. Some people actually think that kind of spewing is OK because everyone they know in their trailer park talks that way.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

DOB So the Gotay thing is true then?**

By Renegator

March 28, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

I think there is a trade for Prado in the works. I agree with TJ. Bobby really wants someone who can play SS as middle infielder depth.

I think we’ll see Pena and Prado packaged together for a bench bat.

By AZBravoFan

March 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Back to the opening day starter thing. I can’t believe Acta isn’t starting Jason Bergmann. Have the Braves ever scored off that guy?

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Sure its possible that we get Gotay and deal Prado, but I doubt it. Its also possible that we deal Infante. But I think the far more likely scenario is, they don’t think Lill should be riding the pine.

The only thing that is weird is, what do we do with Gotay/Prado when Infante comes back? Prado back to the minors? They all say he’s ready now.

By DAP

March 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

so gotay is basically martin prado without the defense?

By bsj

March 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

AZBravoFan, Not to how the Braves have completely teed off on O Perez.

By bsj

March 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

AZBravoFan, Not to mention how the Braves have completely teed off on O Perez.

By Omar Minaya

March 28, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

The Braves picked Gotay off waivers to trade him? I could have traded him for something?

Damn. I must have missed that day in GM school!

By BrandonC

March 28, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

I don’t see a trade involving Prado, I think the Braves claimed Gotay with the intent on sending Lillibridge back to AAA. He’s a switch hitter which could be very useful off of the bench, though I hear he’s not spectacular against righty’s. Who knows, I could be wrong. I DO expect more moves before Sunday so there could very well be a trade in the works.

By Woodstock Doug

March 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

I’m not absolutely certain, but I do believe I read somewhere that DirecTV was going to make Braves games on Peachtree TV available for outlying areas on Channel 617. What those areas are, I don’t know.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Thorman placed on and cleared waivers, sent to Richmond!

By David-ATL14

March 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Thorman outrighted to Richmond!

Good moves today Frank Wren!

By nate

March 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Yahoo says Gotay is expected to open the season on the DL. That doesn’t make sense.

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Braves want Lillibridge playing every day, and Gotay was picked up to fill in for Infante. He’s a pretty useful guy; might make a nice package with Pena and/or Thorman for a better bat. But Gotay can hit.

Still, with all the middle infield depth we have, I gotta think he was picked up for a purpose other than riding the bench. How many ABs is he really going to take from Kelly or Yunel that Prado couldn’t take care of? It would be kinda weird to have two almost identical guys on the bench when we need a power bat.

Maybe this clears the way to get rid of Thorman and keep Borchard.

By OrlandoFan

March 28, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

The Bog Denizens are breaking a lot of news today!

By McFann

March 28, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Trade for Prado? Bring it, man! There’s gotta be some team that needs a……guy like him!

First homer for the Braves this year? Hmm……Maybe Tex…or Chipper, or…hmm…

In 2006, it was LaRoche, and in 2007 it was…well, that’s my hint for Trivia Question Number One.

Gotay, eh? Int’resting. Well, keep him or trade him, he seems better than Thorman (except that he can’t play first base).

By Efrim

March 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Rotoworld’s take on Thorman

Braves sent first baseman Scott Thorman outright to Triple-A Richmond.

It’s about time the Braves came to their senses and realized that no one was going to pick up Thorman. It’s a move that should have been made last summer when Mark Teixeira was picked up. Thorman’s exit would appear to clear a spot for Joe Borchard to make the team. However, it remains quite likely that the Braves will acquire another bench player.

By Zbrave

March 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Andy K- For real (4:02)? Where did you guys get those info? Is there a place/blog better than this one?

By Bravesfan91

March 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

I think with the acqusistion of Gotay, that him and Prado will be the back-up infielders to start the season. When Infante gets back then Gotay and Infante will fill that role. Lili will work on hitting sliders in the minors and Prado has options left so he’ll go down to AAA when Omar gets back. I think the trade for another bench player is gonna include some combonation of Ring, Thor, and Pena. Hopefully the trade, for whoever it may be, will get done sooner rather than later.

By Josh H

March 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

“By AZBravoFan

March 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Back to the opening day starter thing. I can’t believe Acta isn’t starting Jason Bergmann. Have the Braves ever scored off that guy?”

Consider Smoltz isn’t pitching against him, I’d say there is a decent likelihood that we actually would score against him.

By Allen

March 28, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

For those asking about the Peachtree games on DirecTV :

Locally in ATL you will have Ptree tv as channel 17.

For those outside the ATL metro area, like myself (Birmingham, Al), as long as you are in the home zone for the Braves it wil be simulcast on channel 617

I’m not sure what that home zone consists of. I just know I’m in it. It’s probably most of the Southeast.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Andy K are you making that up?

I saw where the Reds are going to release Mike Stanton. Now there’s a player I loved and hated. I do remember one time when Bobby lost track of what he was doing and made a second visit to the mound with no one warming up. Who’d he use to bail him out? Mike Stanton.

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Thorman in Richmond…who backs up Tex?

By Josh H

March 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Oh, and the first HR of this year belongs to Kelly Johnson. Lead off first pitch home run.

One can hope…

By AdirondackDave

March 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Andy K — or others… Does the Thorman waiver increase the likelyhood that Borchard stays? Hope so, the guy can seriously tattoo the ball, although not often enough.

By Interested Observer

March 28, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Interesting stuff today. I have a feeling there’s more to come. We now have 3 utility infielders. I agree that Lillibridge will probably be sent to Richmond. Now, with Thorman being sent to Richmond (I had a feeling he would clear waivers), do we go with Pena, Borchard, or a yet to be acquired, back-up at 1B?

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Gotay-A switch hitting, infielder, who can play 2B, SS, 3B. Sorta like Wilson Betemit. Or Willy Aybar, minus the jail time and drug addiction.

By DAP

March 28, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

first homer of the year will come from kelly johnson. 1st at-bat sunday night.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

First homer for the Braves this year….Escobar in the first at bat.

By Wayne in Utah

March 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

First homer of the year: Frenchy

I give him 32 for the season.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

I think the Braves will be available on both Peachtree TV and on CSS for those of us in certain areas of the South who get CSS.

I just checked on my digital cable thingie and the game tonight will be on both Peachtree and on CSS.

By BrandonC

March 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

With Thorman going to Richmond the Braves must have SOMEBODY in mind to backup Teixeira. Hopefully they are not thinking Borchard as I’v heard that he’s not that good over at 1B. We may see a trade happen by days end.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Nah guys…I just caught the official press release stating that we got Gotay, and placed him on the 25 man, and sent down Thorman. (On the Bravos Site). Then i let everyone over here know, and gave mlbtraderumors a heads up.

By DAP

March 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

doesnt it seem like weve been stockpiling players lately?

putting outselves in a great position to have plenty of depth, and peices to trade to get what we need. i like the way this team has been handled this offseason.

By Allen

March 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Houston sent Paronto to Triple A.

With them sending Thorman down I expect to hear about a trade before the night is out.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Well, I would guess that even though it’s nice that we can keep Thor in the minors to develop (which really is a good thing if that’s how it plays out), his trade value also just shot through the roof. Now, a team can take a little better chance on him without having to clear a roster spot.

By Zbrave

March 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

My hunch is that Anday K made that up (4:02).

By Fred From CT

March 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

First Home Run Of the Year. I will take Matt Diaz.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

AdirondackDave-I would love to see Borchard break camp with the team. He’ll probably play tonight (Maybe at 1B, After Tex Gets his ABs in-Just a speculation) And then we’ll hear from CR or DOB if there’s cuts. He could be very valuable to the team if he proves he can play 1B off the bench steadily. The only thing that worries me about this is the depth we have at middle infield. His chances are probably hurt because Wren says he wants a power bat, and it seems like the wheels are moving to trade for one.

By Stuart

March 28, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Wayne in Utah

I will take you Frenchy HR ‘bet’ and raise you Chipper, going 2-run bomb in the first on Sunday.

Anyone else????

By AZBravoFan

March 28, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I gotta go with Tex for 1st HR of the year.

By AdirondackDave

March 28, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

First homer of the year… Hampton in game 3-4 with the way they’ve been rolling off Braves bats in ST.

By Jon

March 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Thorman cannot be sent down, he has no options left. Get another source.

By Interested Observer

March 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Here’s a thought…with Thorman being sent to Richmond, if the Braves were to trade him now, the new team could stash him in AAA, too, right? Maybe this increases his trade value, esentially the Braves assumed the risk of losing him off waivers, rather than a new team trading for or claiming him, then risking losing him to get him through waivers in order to send him down.

By BrandonC

March 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

I agree with you DAP, Frank Wren is doing an outstanding job so far. He filled some really important gaps in the offseason. The Gotay situation is genious, taking a good player from the Mets, giving them even less depth than they already had (even though that might not have been his primary reason). Putting Thorman on waivers and sending him to Richmond. Frank is determined to win and is doing great. I’m anxious to see what he does about a backup 1B/power bat off the bench. I smell another trade in the works.

By K.C.

March 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Good riddance to Thorman. What a waste of talent. Gotay will provide some much needed bench support. I just read one of the funniest blogs about the braves in recent memory. Just stumbled onto it this morning and laughed MAO. Made me remember we had better hang on to our collective sense of humor this year, in case things go south. You guys will enjoy this: http://bravesnuworld.com/

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Andy K, just curious, why would you love to see a career 205 BA 284 OBP break camp with the team?

He had a decent spring, sure, but so what? He isn’t good at defense, and he isn’t a good hitter. Surely we can find an upgrade over Joe Borchard. If not, it will be a weakness on this team.

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

first homer of the year:

Mike Hampton

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

ZbraveI didn’t. check out the Braves site…click under press releases on the gotay story. plus, i explained everything in one of my previous posts.

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

McCann in the 6th, or K-JO in the 7th, book it.

By nate

March 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Borchard has a .205 career batting average, and has never hit over 10 home runs in one season. Maybe the guy can tee-off in BP but he doesn’t seem like the guy you want pinch hitting to keep the inning alive.

By Epinephrine

March 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Jon,

You must know a lot about baseball.

By flange1

March 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Can anyone provide a link to the Thorman to Richmond rumor?

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

My apologies to Andy K. I’m seeing it on other sources too.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Guys…why is everyone pointing fingers at me? HE CLEARED WAIVERS! He can be sent down. It’s all on the Atlanta braves official site! Look for yourselves before you snap at me!

By DonCoburleone

March 28, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

On the surface, it seems like these moves (Gotay and Thorman) might be setting up a trade of Martin Prado, but I’m not sure. Does Gotay play 3B or SS at all? Cuz if he doesn’t, trading Prado doesn’t make a whole lot of sense because if Chipper goes down, who replaces him at 3B?

If Gotay can play 2B and 3B, then I think Prado is gone. Wren probably has some decent offers for him - and we all know, you can’t get something good without giving up something good in return!

By Wayne in Utah

March 28, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Jon Thor can be sent down, IF he clears waivers.

First Homer Best World, the Braves hit back to back to back to back to back to back to back homers, and then the eighth hitter gets a double down the line!

By Interested Observer

March 28, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

The Gotay deal tells me the Braves aren’t very certain about when Infante might return.

Also, unless there’s another deal imminent, I would keep Pena on the roster for now as back-up 1B and 3rd catcher. Then you can continue shopping him. His trade value would go up if we had a roster spot for him and didn’t HAVE to trade him. Then Borchard could come back up after the trade if we didn’t trade for a better option.

By doug

March 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

The news is on the Atlanta Braves web-site. Not as one of the regular stories, but a press release. Not that big a deal, unless you are blogging at work on a Friday afternoon.

By DAP

March 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Jon if thorman clears waivers, he CAN be sent down. i havent seen any hard proof of that happening yet, but he CAN be sent down.

By Renegator

March 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe the Braves were actually worried about someone claiming Thorman. Who would want him?

By DAP

March 28, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Jon wait….here it is. thorman sent down. a good source, too. MLB.com

By AdirondackDave

March 28, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Hmmm… that’s 2 votes for Hampton. Now I’m starting to get concerned.

By JimD

March 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Here is the direct quote from the Braves’ website:

“ATLANTA — The Atlanta Braves claimed switch-hitting infielder Ruben Gotay off waivers from the New York Mets today. He will be on the team’s Opening Day 25-man roster. In an additional transaction, the Braves asked for waivers on first baseman Scott Thorman who then cleared waivers and was outrighted to Triple-A Richmond.”

It isn’t made up. He CAN be sent down when out of options. He must clear waivers first, which he did. So those who said it can’t happen - check out your facts first.

Definitely something else in the works. Roster is almost set.

By Stuart

March 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

I am sure a backup 1B would be useful, but if let’s be serious, if the braves have NEED of another 1B, then they are in trouble. Tex is going to play 162, I hope.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

I didn’t really look at it in a stats prospective way. Borchard’s just one of the guys I’ve always pulled for to make the team(s). got to seem him play when he was younger and coming up, and he could never stay with the big club. But we don’t really have to worry, because a trade is most likely in the works to get a power hitter off the bench in Atlanta.

By DonCoburleone

March 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

“Mar 27 Gotay (ankle) is expected to open the season on the disabled list, according to NY Daily News.”

What good is he going to do as Infante’s replacement if he’s on the DL too?

By flange1

March 28, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

From MLBtraderumors:

“Ruben Gotay, who had been DFA’d by the Mets, has been picked up by the Braves. Adam Rubin also notes that Anderson Hernandez has been optioned to AAA. Update: To make room for Gotay on the 25-man, the Braves have asked for waivers on Scott Thorman. He has cleared, and will report to AAA Richmond.”

If this is correct, then Thorman is on waivers. He can be claimed by any other team in both leagues.

Again if this is true, HE IS NOT IN RICHMOND YET.

By McFann

March 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine—

That sounds good to me!

Actually, I like Wayne’s at 4:49!

By Thrillhouse44

March 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

First homer: U Kno Who.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Andy K I think everyone was doubting you because it fit into the too good to be true category.

What’s the over/under on innings pitched for Odalis Perez? 1?

By Elements

March 28, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

1st HR?

Kelly Johnson. Braves bats won’t wake up until the middle innings when KJ hits a HR to left.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Pena, Prado, Gotay, Thorman, Borchard, Anderson, Blanco … none of these guys is an impact player, and all are pretty easily replaced.

I’m guessing that the goal is to package a couple of them, along with maybe a relief pitcher or two, for a guy who can have a meaningful impact off the bench and/or provide quality backup at 3B or 1B.

By JimD

March 28, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

I’m not so sure a trade involving Prado is forthcoming - could be, but I have my doubts. The reason is that if someone wanted Prado, they could have had Gotay for free off the waiver wire.

(The only catch to that is that maybe they wanted someone with options - which Prado has and Gotay doesn’t.)

The Braves were toward the bottom end of the waiver list so a lot of teams passed on Gotay.

I guess we will know sooner or later though.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

and boy, DOB and Carroll are sure quiet on all this, aren’t they. Maybe a long meeting going on among the Braves’ braintrust.

By BossLady

March 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Shamus Thacker, I totally agree.

By Jon

March 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Ok guys, guess he cleared waivers first, which wasnt mentioned previously. Sorry bout that. Yes, he can be sent down when he has cleared, which I wasnt aware that he had. So again, my bad.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Thorman might not have cleared waivers in the middle of last summer.

ALot of bad teams have given up and other teams are desperate and might need or just take a chance on someone like Thorman in the middle of a season because they are no longer delusional about their chances and have nothing to lose by giving a guy like Thorman a chance.

At this time of the year, most teams are optimistic and think they have things figured out and are not gonna be willing to take a chance on a guy like Thorman. At least that’s my read on it.

JimD, I think most knew that Thorman could get sent down if he cleared waivers. Most presumed he would not be able to because he does have talent despite his flaws. Most bloggers were hoping that they would trade him instead of exposing him to waivers and potentially having him claimed without the Braves getting anything in return.

Good pickup with Gotay. I thought he was pretty invaluable last season filling in for the Mets when they needed him to give them a boost. I like him better than Prado.

By Mark Fanxeira/ BBFCFM

March 28, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Gotay, who missed time this spring with a sprained ankle, was visibly shaken by the news and had tears as he talked on his cell phone. He was supposed to be on yesterday’s trip to Orlando, and even had his travel bag packed before being held back. - from Yahoo! rumor’s
Hmmm. sounds a little frageelay (as Ralphies dad would say). He must be Italian

By Anders

March 28, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

After last year with another Met cast away, Woodward, I’m suprised getting Gotay is being viewed so positively on here.

I would think on principle alone you’d want to try another team for your 25th guy.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

First homer?

First pitch of the season from Odalis Perez.

KJ takes him deep.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Huge picture of the inside of Nationals Park:

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

flange1 I think you missed the part where mlbtraderumors said he has cleared waivers, which in other words, means no one claimed him, and he’s officially on Richmond’s roster. MLB has now officially posted it under their transactions page, and Thor is on Richmond’s roster on milb.com

AGTfan-Yeah, how many innings you think we’ll see from Perez before Chipper and Tex take him deep consecutively.

By David O'Brien

March 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

NL EAST

  1. Braves

  2. Mets

  3. Phillies

  4. Nationals

  5. Marlins

NL CENTRAL

  1. Cubs

  2. Brewers

  3. Reds

  4. Astros

  5. Cardinals

  6. Pirates

NL WEST

  1. Diamondbacks

  2. Rockies

  3. Dodgers

  4. Padres

  5. Giants

NL Wild Card: Rockies

AL EAST

  1. Red Sox

  2. Yankees

  3. Rays

  4. Blue Jays

  5. Orioles

AL CENTRAL

  1. Indians

  2. Tigers

  3. White Sox

  4. Royals

  5. Twins

AL WEST

  1. Mariners

  2. Angels

  3. Rangers

  4. Athletics

AL Wild Card: Tigers

NLCS Diamondbacks over Braves

ALCS: Indians over Red Sox

World Series: Indians over D-backs

By Lew

March 28, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Kelly Johnson leads off the game with a HR to right. First Braves’ HR of the year and first ever in the stadium.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

sounds like you guys set jon straight. sorry for the delay. was down gathering….yes scott thorman cleared waivers and was outrighted to richmond. he was out of options, yes, but since nobody claimed him on waivers, the braves could send him to the minors. he is already gone, apparently on his way to richmond. i’m sure he wasn’t pleased, but it works out for the braves. they get to keep him around.

as for who’s going to backup first, unless there’s another move made which wren isn’t ruling out, cox said matt diaz, Prado or Pena could play there. wonder if that means pena makes the team. Not sure yet because bobby won’t make the final cuts until after the game. players don’t know yet. final rosters don’t have to be set until midnight tomorrow (sat) night.

also sounds like they’re getting chuck james ready to be on backup watch in case smoltz can’t go that april 6 start. he’s to start the season on the DL and make a start in Rome on Tuesday to keep himself ready. so he’ll be with the team (and not in richmond) until we get to that april 6 date and a decision is made. see where this depth stuff is coming in handy?

wait til y’all see the news seats behind home plate. 150 of them, they’re wider seats adn have thick green cushions. and they’re only 41 feet 9 inches from home plate at the closest point. they’ve got a flat screen TVs built into the wall that separates the seats from the field, presumably so they can take in the game/replays, but i guess if they pay $25,000 for seats, they can watch whatever they want. it definitely feels a little more cozy behind the batting cage. i’m sure the hacks won’t be happy with the row of parking spaces those folks are getting in the middle of the media lot. but hey…

By Robert

March 28, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Imlike Prado a lot. Not as a starting 2B, but KJ struggled against LHP most of the year. I think Prado will be very important to our team this year. Keep Prado and Gotay, when Infante comes back can Gotay.

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Now playing on Thrillhouse44’s IPOD:

Barbie Girl by Aqua

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pxn567bHny8&feature=related

By Jim

March 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Hopefully the backup first baseman will be the least visible member of the team, at least on defense. If healthy, Tex is healthy, a backup should start fewer than 10 games all year. If Diaz, Miller, or someone else on the roster can fill-in adequately at 1B occaisionally, we may get by with the current projected bench of Miller, Infante (soon), Gotay, Prado, and Blanco/Anderson. Not a lot of pop, but all four of the pinch hitters can deliver a key hit or start a rally. There is abit more overall speed than last year also, and we have 2 each from each side of the plate + Miller, who has occaisional pop. A significant upgrade from Thoorrwood. Heck, even if we dared to risk Hampton as a pinch hitter, that would be an upgrade over Thoorrwood.

By JB Braves

March 28, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

I have a trade prediction. I say the Royals are going to give the everyday 1B job to Ryan Shealy, leaving Ross Gload without a job or roster spot. He’s also out of options. Given the Braves great relation with Dayton Moore, and the lack of a deal with them recently makes this very likely to me. And that we got Thorman to clear waivers this makes all the more since. Gload has had a very good spring and is a .294 career hitter, which screams to me awesome backup 1B OF and pinch hitter. Hmm to get him, the Royals are kind of stingy. I’d say Thorman, because he could be sent down and gives them another option. Maybe Royce Ring. Dan Smith or someone like that. I see this getting done. Oh plus Gload is lefthanded.

By David-ATL14

March 28, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Key word there flange 1-

* Outrighted*

Means all other 29 MLB organizations passed on Thorman.

He could have been obtained for nothing more than assuming his contract.

All passed. That tells you everything you need to know right there.

He also now is off the Braves 40 Man roster and will be in Richmond on a minor league contract.

To think some of the denizens actually thought Thorman was a candidate for 1b in 09.

Hopefully that dispels all that nonsense.

2 Solid moves by Wren this afternoon.

Bench is now as follows: Miller,Pena,Gotay,Prado,Blanco.

Could change if a backup 1b is obtained.

Lillibridge,Thorman,Ridgway,Carlyle,Sammons and Borchard all headed to Richmond.

By David O'Brien

March 28, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Don’t know what happened there, someone sabotaged my predictions. No Mets for Wild Card. Make it Rockies

(actually that’s just how much I’m on the fence. Mets just have too many age/health questions for me. I’m going with the young’uns in Colorado)

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Thorman cleared waivers, he is in Richmond. The Braves back up situation at 1B gets more interesting by the minute.

This Gotay addition is strange business, he has played almost exclusively at 2B. The 25 year old switch hitter did hit .295 last season in limited duty with the Mets.

His career splits suggest he can hit right handed pitching(.268) but right handers eat him up(.219).

I don’t see the Braves keeping him around unless Prado is traded. Prado can play both 2B and 3B equally well.

Both Prado and Gotay have less than 25 games of experience combined playing SS.

There is more going on here than meets the eye and the braves bench situation is far from decided.

By David O'Brien

March 28, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

TJ, I’m off. Not at the ballpark, so it’s not my place to sit here and report on the move. I’m not there talking to folks.

To me it’s pretty clear, though: Gotay is the other backup infielder with Prado to start the season. After Infante returns, who knows? Prado has an option, though.

Lillibridge, as I said, struggled against the slider all spring. Needs more work in the high minors.

Thorman getting through waivers not a big shocker. Folks, just look at his numbers, then consider he’s a marginal defensive player.

Most teams had their rosters pretty well set by now, not gonna bump a guy to make a spot for Thorman, who’d have been required to stay on a claiming team’s 25-man roster or be exposed to waivers, just like with Braves.

By DonCoburleone

March 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Nice predictions DOB, the only things I would disagree with are 1) Colorado will end up in 3rd place in the West, LA will be 2nd, and the Mets will take the Wild Card. In the AL, you have it exactly like I do, except for Oakland. NO WAY IN HE!! do they finish behind Texas. I think Oakland will still win 75 games this year, while Texas will be lucky to get 65 (have you seen their starting rotation???)

By Jim

March 28, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Is it a testimony to Bobby Cox that the Braves got significant contributions from marginal players like Damian Moss, Charles Thomas, Nick Green, Langy (2006), Pete Orr (2006), and J. Wright that have done nothing since leaving the Braves?

By JB Braves

March 28, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Brayan Pena makes since for the Royals. Brayan Pena and some AAA or AAAA player to Royals for Ross Gload.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

DOB, really didn’t mean that as a criticism. Maybe just over-eagerness to hear some analysis, but I sure don’t begrudge anyone a day off. Whatever.

By AGTfan

March 28, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

DOB. I think you’re a baseball addict. Aren’t you supposed to be off? You just can’t resist, can you? I like your picks, but I’m seeing the Braves going all the way.

By McFann

March 28, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

So……who’s the backup catcher? Anybody know yet?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Check that, Gotay’s splits are .268 facing lefty’s and .219 hitting right handers.

Here is the scouting report on him.

Assets :

Gotay isn’t a big kid, but he does have a little pop in his bat and can spray the ball all over the field. He can also run well enough to stretch the occasional double into a triple.

Flaws:

Has some trouble batting right-handed as a switch-hitter. Has some trouble hitting with runners on base.

Career potential:

A decent utility infielder.

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Looks like another trade coming. Either that or Borchard made the team. We should know by tomorrow. Without Borchard or a trade, we got one weak bench, power wise.

Plus, other than Prado, there really isn’t anyone who can play first. I gotta think there’s another piece moving.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

pretty rational mets fan’s take

here is a mets fan take on putting gotay on waivers, this was even before he knew the braves claimed him.

By nurse ratchet

March 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

anybody see my ol’ man here.

By Maybe so

March 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

When did they put Thor on waivers? Kind of strange that no one knew it. I mean, that it was not reported or found out in some way.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

I’m liking this frank wren character

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Maybe so It probably wasn’t publicized because it was very “hush “hush, due to the fact it seems no one really wants him.

By Sir Stealth

March 28, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

I agree with those who have said that Diaz makes a perfectly decent backup 1b. Even if we end up with someone else on our bench who can play 1b, it will be for their bat alone. If Tex goes down with a serious injury, then the whole thing will have to be reevaluated anyway.

By BillSNV

March 28, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

I dont think Thor is a national story. Its only interesting to us Braves fans.

By Train Wreck Bystander

March 28, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

And those of us with Dish Network are royally screwed, since they haven’t picked up the Peachtree games and don’t carry CSS. They also don’t answer emails…

$%^@#@*&^(!!!

By Craig Swann

March 28, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Gotay move is gold. The Mets castoff connection with Woodward stops there. Gotay is a decent player and could even fill in at a couple of positions for a week or two at the time if needed. Meanwhile, Woodward has been cut again.

By embizzle

March 28, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

I just don’t see anyway that Arizona makes the playoffs. There pitching is good, don’t get me wrong, just don’t think that you can count on a lineup made up of soooo many youngins’… again.

By embizzle

March 28, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

I just don’t see anyway that Arizona makes the playoffs. There pitching is good, don’t get me wrong, just don’t think that you can count on a lineup made up of soooo many youngins’… again.

By BravesFanInRockies

March 28, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

FJR,

Thanks for the post. As we all know, Randolph learned to manage from Joe Torre, and throughout his career Torre has tended to fill his bench with marginal veterans who were known quantities (even if they were known to be mediocre) over younger guys with potential.

When Joe was with the Yanks this didn’t matter much, because as DOB has said, if somebody didn’t work out, the Boss could just go out and buy somebody else. The same logic might apply with the Mets. Gotay might well have ridden the pines for no good reason. (They think Jose Valentin is an option, for crying out loud!)

If Gotay sticks with the Braves, let’s hope he makes Randolph and Omar regret releasing him.

By mr baseball

March 28, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

The more Wren does, the more it seems he’s following in Schuerholz’s footsteps. Contrary to his worshipers in the local media and mnay Braves’ fans, JS was not very accomplished at constructing a useful bench, especially in the latter years when he no longer had Ted’s blank check to ease his task.

During the ex-GM’s tenure, the Braves let plenty of players go who were never really given a chance here but became productive contributors once they got out of a Braves’ uniform: Randall Simon, Graffanino, DeRosa, Helms among them. And they kept bringing in washed up types who were obviously done: Otis & Jordan part 2; Mondesi, Brogna, Caminiti, and last year’s twin beauties — Woodward & Wilson.

Maybe there’s another deal or 2 in the works involving Prado, Pena or 1 of the excess of relievers. If not, this bench will be one of the weakest in baseball, even with the most recent addition of little consequence. There is not a legitimate bat anywhere to be found, no RH hitter to play CF, no current backup at SS or 1B, not much behind McCann and absolutely nothing at 3B if U Know Who goes down again.

The ex-GM made a number of very shrewd deals over the years, but there are a whole lot of stinkers that have been conveniently forgotten. And his refusal to pay more attention to the bullpen and bench was one of the reasons the Braves were such underachievers in the playoffs, especially in the last 10 or so years of their run.

Unless everything clicks and all the front line players stay healthy, this team is going to have a whole lot of trouble winning the amount of games it’s going to require to finish first in the East ahead of the Phillies, who are being overlooked due to the obsession on here with the Mets and their handful of dweebs who get so many of you worked up.

The bench as currently constituted is not sufficient for a playoff caliber team. The bullpen may not be either. This team better score a whole lot of runs and get a bunch of quality starts if it wants to start a new playoff streak.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

apparently the mets are trying to claim that Gotay was a bad influence on Jose Reyes. Brilliant move, one unconfirmable rumor takes some of the blame for Reyes’ second half swoon and makes them not look as dumb for letting him go. Too bad they tried to do the same thing with Luis Castillo before Eckstein turned them down and they forced to resign Castillo.

And before one of the mets fans say I’m making it up, that came from a mets fan.

here is my source

By drd99

March 28, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Ahh!! the sweet smell of hotdogs,Popcorn,Apple pie,and Braves Baseball!!! I like the Gotay move,however Hatteberg out of Cincy is who I think Wren has his eye on….. And Yes Gotay,has played 3rd on occasion!

By OldTimer

March 28, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

These Braves are done. They are just too old and the young blood isn’t that good. The fumes they’ve been running off of the past few years are dissipating. Glavine came here to retire. Hampton?… come on. Smoltz couldn’t finish a game in his prime. This is a funeral. I’ll skip it.

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

My eyes nearly blew out of my head when I saw the words rational and Mets Fan in the same sentence without ir- added to rational and the word delusional added, but the guy is right. I just remember Gotay having a couple of big games last year, and he has really good wheels, decent pop, and he didn’t look awful in the field. Not good, mind you, but not terrible.

Still, given all our infield depth, it’s an odd move.

By Uh-Oh

March 28, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Infante, Prado and now Gotay? Hope Bobby doesn’t get any ideas to not give Kelly Johnson the playing time he deserves and has earned.

By Maybe so

March 28, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Thank you for the responses. I realize that Thor is not national news, but it seems that it is something AJC and others would be interested to know, but I guess the Braves have ways to keep those things from leaking out. I just don’t know how “private” such a waiver move is. I didn’t know it was as private as it evidently is.

By drd99

March 28, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Old Timer:YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!!! SHUT UP AND GO BACK TO THE MUTTS!!!!

By Braveheart

March 28, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

guess they’re not playing it on css if you also get peachtree tv

makes sense.

By AMG

March 28, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Yeah!!! Baseball back in Atlanta Can’t wait to see JJ pitch a little tongiht.

By Austin

March 28, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Does anyone know if the Braves would be blacked out on EXTRA INNINGS in Savannah Georgia?

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

OldTimer: Time to start rooting for whichever team has the highest payroll. You’ll be happier. We’ll be happier.

It’s win-win. I hear the Red Sox and Yankees have largish payrolls and fairly good teams, so you might consider them. We’ll miss you.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

let’s see, of the young blood that isn’t that good, we have a gold glover, an all-star who won a silver slugger, a .370+ OBP guy who will hit 15-25 homers at 2B and a SS who really hit well last year and only projects to get more and more power.

Yeah old timer, this is a funeral alright, however, its the funeral of your logic.

By David-ATL14

March 28, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Pete and Skip just confirmed that Borchard and Lillibridge have already been told they are headed to Richmond.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

One thing we need to keep in mind is that Jair is never going to be a dominating guy. He’s good for us because we have a good offense. He’s not going to get into trouble and get us out of many games, but he’s not going to domiante and win a lot of 1-0 games either.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Jurrjens gave up a lead off triple to Grady Sizemore then Hafner drove the run in with the sac fly. 1-0 Cleveland after half an inning.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Three up and three down for the Braves in the bottom half of the first inning.

By Shamus Thacker

March 28, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

This is our year!

By Bobby's Cox

March 28, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

I hope we don’t trade prado. He’s a good hitter and has good D. He’ll be important during one of KJ’s 1-30 slumps.

By AMG

March 28, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Not a big fan of the new seats behind home plate. Just sitting here watching Peachtree TV and it looks too “busy” behind the catcher. Will probably get “used to it” as the season goes on.

By Train Wreck Bystander

March 28, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Austin, as I understand it, you are blacked out of Braves games on MLBEI because you are in the Braves television territory.

Here’s a map of MLB territories in the US that might help explain who can get the games on MLBEI and who can’t.

And one for Canada as well.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Three up and three down for the Indians in the second. 1-0 Cleveland. Blanco made all three put outs in LF.

By Yars

March 28, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Austin….Savannah is Braves territory, according to MLB. MLB Extra Innings will likely have their games blacked out.

By Austin

March 28, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

Is there any possible way to see Braves game in the blacked out areas?

By Shamus Thacker

March 28, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

FJR, intelligent people who just happen to pitch can become dominant, even with an average arm. Maddog and Glavine never had overpowering stuff, they had overpowering minds. That, coupled with raw determination, won 600+ games.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

braves no-hit through 2. Carmona really getting them to roll over balls off the end of their bats.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

three up and three down for the Braves in the second. Carmona is pitching well for the Indians.

By Austin

March 28, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

If I were crazy I would hang myself.

By Bravetiger

March 28, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

To whom it may concern - whoever is responsible for the pictures on the player profile page, you have Kotsay’s picture in two spots, on his profile as well as Teixeira’s. Just making you aware.

Also is there anyone watching on PTV that is a Charter subscriber? I am a Charter subscriber in Alabama and was underthe impression that Charter was close to a deal to carry Braves on CSS.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

I’m going to say that this year’s andruw jones wouldn’t have made that play.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

first game at turner field as a brave? first superman-tune-accompanied catch in center field for mark kotsay. his diving grab of Franklin Gutierrez’s liner to left center was reminiscent of another center fielder we might recall. well done.

By Yars

March 28, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

I hope we still get a bat that has some power for the bench. Prado, Gotay, & Blanco don’t fit that bill. Wow what a great catch by Kotsay! I thought the Superman theme was only played at Turner when Andruw made a great catch? Thought they’d retire it.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Glavine and Maddux had much better control than Jair, glavine had a much much better changeup and was lefthanded and maddux had much better movement. Sure, pitching smart helped, but lets not shortchange their physical abilities as well. Physical abilities are more than just pure power.

I like jair, but some here seem to be looking at him like a future #1 or at the least 2. I think he projects as a good 3/ very good 4.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 28, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

Interesting roster moves today by the Braves. It will be interesting to see who wins the spot between Anderson and Blanco. Also, I kind of like the bench of Gotay, Prado, B. Pena, Miller, and Anderson/Blanco. I have always liked B. Pena and felt he has gotten a raw deal. However, that leaves a bench with no pop on it whatsoever so I have to think something is in the works. B. Pena is likley on the move. It would be nice if the Braves could fleece the Angles for Kendry Morales or Juan Rivera. Myabe throw in Royce Ring or Blaine Boyer with Pena?

By Muggly Other

March 28, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Bravetiger,

I’m watching on Charter in NC on their CSS channel(charter/comcast sports) I read online in an Ala. paper that Charter in Alabama had signed a deal. Charter and Comcast have seperate deals but both are carrying the Peachtree games on their CSS joint channel.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

O my , Kotsay just pulled an Andruw Jones, running and diving to catch a line drive right before it hit the grass in left-center field. Great play by Kotsay !

Kotsay records out number two on an easy flyball.

Sizemore drives a two out double right down the RF line , he’s got Jurrjens number with a triple and double in two at bats.

Two out , runner on second base.

Jurrjens walks the next batter. Two on, two out.

Hafner batting. 2-2 count and McCann is out to the mound to chat. Strike three, inning over. Good pitch sequence between McCann and Jurrjens to get Hafner swinging and end the top half of the third inning.

By Yars

March 28, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Man I was freaking out less than a week ago figuring I would miss all those games that were to be on Peachtree TV only. I thank the Lord that Comcast in my area is showing them all! CSS what a great station. I may have to send them a fruit basket.

By Robert

March 28, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

2 Things

  1. Jurrjens has no problems getting 2 strikes on the hitters, but needs to learn to put them away. They are hitting them hard. Great plays by Escobar and Kotsay are keeping it 1-0.

  2. Is there anyway we keep Anderson and Blanco on the 25 man roster

By FJR

March 28, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

nice piece by kotsay after getting down 0-2. worked it to 2-2, fouled off some good pitches and went opo for a solid single to break up the perfecto.

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

“Throw in” Blaine Boyer? I don’t think so. Ring, sure.

We do really need someone with power to come off the bench. Hatteberg, at this stage of his career, might be the guy. He’s not going to be getting much playing time where he is.

By uga-brave

March 28, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

anybody else hate the graphics on top of the screen.

note to PEACHTREE T.V. less is more.

that top bar is obnoxious.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

great ABs by k-jo, just like kotsay. Also heads up baserunning by kotsay on a delayed steal.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

FJR, is there any particular reason you’re comparing JJJ to 2 Hall of Fame pitchers? I mean, the guy is an undrafted free agent who has developed far beyond anyone’s expectations.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Kotsay leads off the bottom of the third with a solid line drive single through the infield for the Braves first hit.

Bobby Cox has the headset on and is chatting with Skip Caray.

Apparently Tom Glavine gave some positive info on Ruben Gotay influencing part of the Braves decision to pick him up off waivers.

Diaz strikes out. Carmona is nasty, he’s keeping the ball down in the zone and throwing strikes.

Blanco fly’s out to LF, two down. Kotsay still on first base.

Kotsay caught the Indians sleeping and stole second on a delayed steal.

Kelly Johnson is batting. line drive base hit to RF , Kotsay scores and it’s all tied up at 1-1.

Yunel in the Box , Kelly keeps running to second and Escobar fouls off two pitches, Johnson back to first base.

Escobar grounds out to Short. Inning over. 1-1 after three full innings.

By Yars

March 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Nice hitting by KJ. Way to work the count. uga-brave….the ‘peachtree tv’ logo on the top bar is way too long. Man there is no reason why it should be that long.

By ncgary

March 28, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

dob

NL WEST

Diamondbacks

Rockies

Dodgers

Padres

Giants

any chance the pads part peavey for pieces of braves? they signed him to a reasonable contract, at the trade deadline

By AMG

March 28, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Robert - you are correct about JJ needing to learn to put them away with two strikes… good thing he is only 22 and has some time to learn things like that. I don’t think he will be pitching a no hitter anytime soon.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

TJ, it was in response to another poster talking about Jair could become dominant and he compared him to Glav and maddux. I was pointing out what a ridiculous comparison it was.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

Jurrjens gives up a leadoff walk to start the fourth inning and here come Bobby Cox. He will pull JJ off the mound and Blaine Boyer is in to pitch.

By Glass Half Full (GHF)

March 28, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

local access Mediacom channel 77 is airing the PTV broadcast! Sweet! Though I was gonna have to go on a killing spree.

By OleJC

March 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Bravetiger

The game is on Charter Channel 15 in the Birmingham area. Great way to manufacture a run in the bottom of the 3rd. Kotsayt’s back doesn’t seem to be bothering him.

By OleJC

March 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Bravetiger

The game is on Charter Channel 15 in the Birmingham area. Great way to manufacture a run in the bottom of the 3rd. Kotsay’s back doesn’t seem to be bothering him.

By jb

March 28, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Love the moves today. Picking up Gotay of waivers and sendint Thorman to the minors! If Thorman has any upside, he needs the AB’s that only the minors can give him. Gotay is a pretty good LH bat off the bench. He has shown he can pinch hit. Granted he wont hit a lot of HR’s, but a lot of his hits last year went for extra bases. A single, double, or triple off the bench sure helps more than Thorman’s K would. Too bad Gotay hasn’t played 1B. For those complaining about the move, remember we picked him up off waivers, we didn’t trade prospects for him. Not to mention, the Mets were hoping he would clear waivers. They would have liked him available if an injury occurred.

By FJR

March 28, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, mlb.tv late cutting back to the game, apparently I missed cleveland somehow getting a run.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

jurrjens left one batter in the fourth inning. a nice tune-up outing for him against the Indians’ every day lineup (what’s new?). Grady Sizemore got him for a triple and a double, but nobody else did much. Two walks, including to his last batter of the night and two runs allowed (the second one scored after Blaine Boyer gave up a double)….in all: three-plus innings, two hits, two earned runs, two walks, one strikeout. 62 pitches, 37 strikes.

just because we say the guy has good control and an idea what he’s doing, let’s not try and put him into glavine/maddux company just yet, eh?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

And MLB.com drops the feed, it finally comes back up and the score is 3-1 Indians and I have no idea what the hell happened. Thank you mlb.com.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Oops , Kotsay should have caught that deep drive to dead CF. Andruw would have caught that one. 5-1 Cleveland and the wheels have come off this train here in the fourth.

By TJ

March 28, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

FJR, well, whoever made that comparison should be flogged, but guess it’s not you! Sorry.

Man, Boyer is doing his best to screw things up for himself.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

things are imploding on boyer in the fourth….started out 1-1 with a jurrjens runner at first. now it’s 5-1 and boyer needed a double play to get out of that. he gave up hits to four of the first five batters he faced and then hit sizemore before getting the DP grounder.

By will36206

March 28, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

anyone getting the game on direct tv in ne alabama?

By AMG

March 28, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

O.K… . we need a “Do over” for Boyer. Nerves for the guy from Cobb County? … Just got the Double Play ball… he’s good now?

By cityofdecatur

March 28, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

damn Indians score 4 just as i tune in!

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Boyer clearly wasn’t mentally ready to come in and pitch the fourth inning, his command is off and most of his stuff has been up in the zone.

Good thing it’s only an exhibition game.

By Robert

March 28, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

In all fairness, that was strike three to Blake, next pitch he doubled

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Note the contrast in styles between Bobby Cox and Eric Wedge.

Carmona is still in the game and Cox has already pulled his starter.

Interesting.

By Austin

March 28, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Glass Half Full (GHF)*

My killing spree is about to begin.

By Bravesfan79

March 28, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Is anyone surprised that Chris Woodcrap got cut by the Yankees, or that no one wanted Thorman?? I cant believe the free spending yankees would even consider a career .200 hitter like woodcrap is.

bsj and braveheart I happen to be very good at talking my way out of bad situations, and im probably one of the nicest most honest cats you’d ever meet. Yea i carry a gun but its only if i see i have no other choice. Im very blessed to of made it this far. BTW: Falling Down is a kickass movie

By Steve from OH

March 28, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see that Furman Bisher got noticed over at Fire Joe Morgan?

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

uga-brave re your 8:09 - no need to taunt those of us that have lost coverage of the Braves on TV for a quarter of this season.

Some of us would love to have too many logos on the screen!

By cityofdecatur

March 28, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

not my day ratchet was really here looking for me. she doesn’t know how to start the computer . Must have help. I’m fried! Interesting move with Gotay. Got tickets for monday can’t wait. good to hear skip and pete tonite. boyer didn’t help himself last inning. if gotay starts season on DL does that allow us to carry an extra infielder or outfielder? what’s with all the racial crap at the beginning of the blog? not like this normally

By Austin

March 28, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

How do you get around the MLB.COM black outs?

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

wow…mlb.tv dropped the feed again…now they say they are undergoing maintenance.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Acosta in to pitch the fifth. He strikes out Hafner to start the inning with a nice hook.

Acosta stabs a sharp hit ground ball with the glove and throws to first, two out.

Flyball to RF. three up and three down for the Indians here in the fifth. 5-1 Cleveland.

By Murphy

March 28, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

um, it is Chip and Pete, not Skip…if only…

By will36206

March 28, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

ESPN is saying Phillies have signed Chris Woodward to a minor league contract. Guess he’s going to challenge Jimmy Rollins for the starting shortstop job!

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

coach, managers have different philosophies on that, how long to let starters go in the their last spring outings. i remember last year ozzie guillen let i think it was mark buerhle go 7 innings or some. bobby has always been a tune-up, back the guys back down.

jurrjens agrees with you robert, said he wasted too many pitches when he was ahead with two strikes….he’s such a refreshing kid. he was asked if he finally was told he was on the team yet, and he said yes roger told him he would be pitching the third game. then he said: “I still won’t believe it until I get on the plane tomorrow.”

By Glass Half Full (GHF)

March 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Momentary complaint in spite of the unexpected PTV broadcast…no Braves HD coverage on Mediacom cable here in Americus, Georgia unless they’re on ESPN or Fox. Bastages!

By JimD

March 28, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Actually, Murphy …

It IS Skip and Pete …on Radio.

Chip and Joe (I’m Not Jessica’s Daddy) Simpson are on TV.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

Kotsay singles with one out , Josh Anderson comes in to run for him and we are off to the races.

Diaz bloops a hit and we have something cooking here in the fifth.

Blanco in the box, little slow roller to second and both runners advance one base as Blanco is thrown out at first base. two out.

Fly ball, three out. Inning over.

By bruce

March 28, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Dave are you watching Davidson-Wisconson. Davidson up 67-48 6 minutes left… see ya Sunday… Davidson v Kansas… not sure what time they will play, but I did end up going back to StubHub to get a ticket for Sunday nite in DC.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Cox is making wholesale changes in the infield and outfield, Will Ohman in to pitch.

Time to feed my face. Wifes got ribs simmering, somebody take over. see ya.

By beachcomber

March 28, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Anybody else having problems with MLB Audio tonight or is just my system down in Florida?

By chrisklob

March 28, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

Colorado fans beware: Mark Redman is your opening day starter!

By bigchiefrg

March 28, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

I really like the idea of the guy from Kansas city, but really and truly, how good of a pinch hitter can you expect to get. If he was truly worth anything wouldn’t he be a starter. We shouldn’t give up too much for one in my opinion. I think it is great that Diaz is finally getting his chance but boy his bat sure was nice coming off the bench those nights a righty started. Maybe the whole platoon thing isn’t such a bad thing and Bobby new what he was doing afterall?

I hope with all my heart Matty D does well everyday in left and finally gets some respect.

Thank God we don’t have to face Carmona til the world series. He is just pure nasty.

By ncgary

March 28, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

on a side note heres summin 2 ponder

A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.

A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.

D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government is spending it

go braves world series rings in 08

By JimD

March 28, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Prado playing 1st. Hmm.

By Murphy

March 28, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

oh, Radio must have been a better choice then…

By McFann

March 28, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Coach, do you live out West? Only askin’ because you couldn’t possibly be just now eating…

Arg! Force out…sheesh! Can’t we have a rally? Huh! Felt good to Chop, thought. Very good…Get that arm loose!

Yeaaahh…I’m gettin’ tired. Back to the game…

Later! (Maybe.)

By ncgary

March 28, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

hometown wildcats vrs ku if they advance

spicy curry too much to handle

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Ms. Rogers Will the 25-Man be announced tonight?

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

no time like the present. .martin prado is getting his first work of the spring at FIRST BASE.

By JimD

March 28, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

Murphy, I can’t tell you how many times I have turned the volume down on the TV and turned up the radio just to be able to hear Skip and Pete call the game.

By Robert

March 28, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Carroll

Has there been any talk of them lowering Lillibridge’s hands. He doesn’t seem able to catch up to the hard fastballs.

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Carroll:

Any news on roster cuts? You’re kind of leaving us hanging here. Were they announced tonight?

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

So what’s the thinking here on the back up catcher?

Pena is in tonight, i think I would like to see him if only because he is a switch hitter.

By McFann

March 28, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

“Thought”? Dude, I meant to say though…

Like I said, tired!

By Steve McP

March 28, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Of course with Thorman gone, Pena’s ability to play first (maybe) might also put him ahead of the competition

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Wow, I got way ahead of that change-up. Game still going, huh?

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Andy K, final cuts will be announced after the game tonight (stay tuned) but the roster doesn’t have to be finalized until tomorrow night at midnight, so the Braves could still make a deal if they so choose. Wren wasn’t ruling that out when i talked to him this afternoon.

By ncgary

March 28, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

sorrydob villanova gonna play the wildcats or at least i hope so

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

I it just me, or is Cleveland pull-happy tonight? Next to nothing has been put into play toward RF by those guys.

By Murphy

March 28, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

I know…I am in Atl for the weekend, but normally live in Charlotte, so I dont get to hear Skip and Pete like I used to when I lived here.

By flange1

March 28, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

Hi All,

Interesting day in Braves world.

I am trying to figure this bench out. IF what we here is true on Lillibridge and Borchard,

Bench should be Gotay, Prado, then catcher (miller or Pena) outfielder (anderson or Blanco) and———.

SO maybe we keep the 2 catchers and drop someone when Infante is ready?

Keep 2 outfielders until Infante is ready?

Or prepare for a trade or pickup from the waiver wire.

Also, if Chuckie is also on the DL waiting to see if Smoltz can pitch, is he waiting in he wings to join the team in long relief?

Not a good game for Boyer, but it all startes for real on Saturday!

Thanks to all who helped my stupid post earlier on Thorman, I sometimes can’t read!! !:)

And all folks in the Metro area, join KC and friends at Fox Sports Grill for the Sunday opener..

IT will be fun!

By chuckaluck

March 28, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Who cares about tonight, it’s spring training. Here afre my picks.

NL EAST

Braves Nationals Phillies Marlins Mets (just hoping against hope)

NL CENTRAL Reds Brewers Cubs Cardinals Pirates Asros

NL WEST Dodgers Diamondbacks Rockies Padres giants

NL Wild Card: Brew Crew

AL EAST Rays Red Sox Yankees Jays Orioles

AL CENTRAL Indians Tigers White Sox Royals Twins

AL WEST Mariners Angels Rangers Athletics

AL Wild Card: Red Sox

NLCS Braves over Reds

ALCS: Rays over Red Sox

World Series: Rays over Braves (miracle season)

By ncgary

March 28, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

we shot the comet

we really went and did it

we shot the comet

there was this man

he really went and did it

he shot the comet

he decided , he wanted

just to see what was in it

now we’re all teetering

on the edge of extermination

in an uneliptical orbit

but hey we shot the comet

we now know whats in it

  • we shot the comet*

  • i cant believe he did it*

    • but we shot the comet*

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

It’s finally time folks…in a few moments, we’ll know who is in, and who is out!

By Mitch Williams

March 28, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Here’s what will really happen this year. The Braves will be 6 over at the break. Then the arms, legs, and feet will break down, and the season will slowly follow. Then we won’t even draw what we usually draw and Turner Field will become a place transplants from other stadiums come to watch “their” teams play. Oh wait, in the playoffs it already is. Hope you guys are comfy pulling for the Phils in the post season.

By David-ATL14

March 28, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

According to Chip and Lemke on the post game show-

roster cuts will not be announced until Saturday.

A change from earlier.

By chuckaluck

March 28, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Mitch Williams

I hope you choke on your cheese steak

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

bobby didn’t announce the final roster down to 25 but gave us cuts that i think brings it down to 26. here’s what we’re looking at:

josh Anderson was cut lillibridge and borchard to richmond ridgway was cut, sammons was cut

so that would leave five bench guys: prado, Blanco, Miller, Pena and Gotay. then two guys battling for the final pitcher spot (smoltz’s spot) bennett and carlyle with the edge to bennett.

they’ll finalize tomorrow.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

Picking up Ruben Gotay off waivers , showcasing Prado at 1B, HMMMMMMMM.

Tis very interesting.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

David Are you sure? Because right before the end of the game on Peachtree, Chip said cuts were tonight, but they’d give them tomorrow, since they’d be off the air before they were announced/posted.

By chrisklob

March 28, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Carroll, does that mean that Anderson was released or will be sent to Richmond/Pearl/elsewhere? I can’t see any reason to just dump him.

By brian

March 28, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Carroll - I assume that Anderson is going to Richmond as well??? He looked too good to just cut and give up on.

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Chris Woodward is available. So is Chris Reitsma. And HoRam. Pull the trigger, Frank.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

So basically what we are looking at is:

-Blanco beats Anderson for 4th OF -Prado/Gotay To Be Middle IF Off Bench -Corky Miller As Back-Up Catcher -Brayan Pena As C/1B/3B/OF -12 Pitchers, last spot to either Bennett or Carlyle (Until Smoltz[4/6]) then a pitcher gets cut/release/sent down.

Plus, It will be interesting to see what happens when Infante returns. And we could still get a trade!

Phew! Wow!

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Time for me to get to work on explaining how my roster predictions panned out. I think the only thing I screwed up on was not guessing Thor would be the one cut without a trade being made for a solid 1B defender, and of course the temporary opening caused by Smoltz starting the season on the DL.

I guess we get to beat the Mets with their own stick from time to time this year, huh?

By DAP

March 28, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

Jon guess he cleared waivers first, which wasnt mentioned previously.

yes it was. check your sources.

By chrisklob

March 28, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Pete H., bad news. Woodward signed a minor league deal with the Phillies today. Let’s hope he makes the big club!

By Mitch Williams

March 28, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Andy K & Chuck Aluck,

You guys are delusional…and if you go to Turner Field the night my Fighting Phils are playing…there’ll be more of us in the stands than you. In Phact, we’re thinking of bringing down the Phanatic. Thundercats..Hoah!

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

yes, let me clarify. all five roster moves announced after the game were guys headed to richmond:

josh anderson clint sammons jeff ridgway brent lillibridge joe borchard

so by no means are the braves giving up on anderson. here’s what bobby said after the game about the anderson/blanco thing

“(Anderson) and Blanco are real close,” manager Bobby Cox said. “Both of them belong in the big leagues. We may switch around later on; we’ll see what happens. But Blanco had a real good spring, had a good year last year, I think he was (runner-up) MVP during the Venezuelan winter league. He deserves a crack. He’s been here a long time in the organization.”

just filed my story on the cuts with the desk, so they should be coming to a computer screen near you real soon.

but i presume they’ll be down to one last cut tomorrow - carlyle is my assumption - and then the braves will be off and running to DC, unless they make another trade.

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Can you imagine what’s going through an opposing manager’s mind in the late innings, with two switch-hitters in the regular lineup and a pair on the bench? That has to be frustrating when trying to pick a reliever to throw against the Braves this season.

By J Franco

March 28, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Freaking Phillies Fans. Mitch, you guys ought to know that way more of our Mets fans…”real fans” show up at Turner Field than you cheesesteaks…and Braves “fans” of course.

Let’s Go Mets!

By ippississiM

March 28, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

chrisklob:

I guess that signing would give the Phils a chance to beat us with… oh, Woodward? more power to him, and his agent. That’s some trick, getting someone to pay that man to impersonate a baseball player.

By Lee in S. GA

March 28, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

DOB

Your picks are pretty solid to say the least. I thnk the D’Backs will upset the Indians in 7 games however. Will be one of the greatest W.S. of all times.

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Mitch How am I delusional? And you can’t rip the Braves, we’re not the team who just signed Chris Woodcrap. While you’re at it, why not sign Craig Wilson to back up your starting first basemen…forget his name though.

By Carroll Rogers

March 28, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

sorry bout that guys, shouldn’t have used the word “cut.” was trying to type that real quick, then make a tight print deadline…..all five guys tonight were sent to richmond.

and yes it was a change in plan. the roster was going to be released after the game but i believe bobby didn’t get a chance to tell the final guy about the move, so they’ll wait until tomorrow.

By ObiWanKobe

March 28, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

BRAVESFAN79 obvoiusly has a tiny uhm… “voice”

By Andy K

March 28, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

well…that’s it for me…for tonight…until tomarrow

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 28, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Keeping Blanco and sending Anderson back to Richmond deprives the Braves of some much needed speed.

We knew some of the fast guys like Jordan Schafer and Gorkys Hernandez were gone. Lillibridge was a surprise cut at the last minute too.

That’s Bobby Cox for you. On offense he builds his teams around power bats and good hitters. And there is nothing wrong with that philosophy.

It’s just that I would rather see the game played in it’s totality.

The Phillies have Jimmy Rollins and the Mets have Jose Reyes. Speed kills and the Braves have sent most theirs back to the minors.

By chrisklob

March 28, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Carroll, thanks for clearing that up. Great blog, by the way, and welcome back!

By ssiscribe

March 28, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

Since everybody else is weighing in with their postseason picks and I linked to my regular-season selections earlier today, here are my playoff predictions.

—30—

By Robert

March 28, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

Carrol

Was Boyer the last of the three out of option pitchers to make the team. Is his job secure for when Smoltz comes back

By Pete H.

March 28, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Coach, unlike Reyes and Rollins, neither Lilli nor Josh was going to get much playing time, barring injury. And if there is a key injury, one or both will be back.

Speed isn’t much good sitting on the bench, and Bobby is not much for pinch running. And if you’re pinch running, you’re usually behind, which negates the speed anyway.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

The bad day for ex-Braves continues. Nick Green sent to the minors.

By ssiscribe

March 29, 2008 12:04 AM | Link to this

Great work CR on the bench stuff. I think we all pretty much knew how the final bully spots would work out, especially after Smoltz got hurt which has allowed the Braves to bring north one extra pitcher.

But this bench thing has been crazy to try and figure out. And I don’t think it’s a done deal, not just yet. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see a trade of either Pena or Prado for a power-hitting backup first baseman tomorrow. With both Thorman and Borchard send down to the minors, there really isn’t a big power threat on the bench.

I have talked up Josh Anderson since his arrival from Houston, and I think he will help this team at some point during the season. But you have to feel great for Blanco making the team after seven years in the organization.

We’ll see what happens tomorrow.

—30—

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

And the bad day for ex-Braves gets worse. Jason Marquis has given up three tape measure shots after Ted Lilly gave up three long balls.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

Robert: It’s not like they give us the rank of the final three guys to make the bullpen. And so much might change in the first week, but if I had to guess right now, if all goes according to plan, they’d keep Boyer up once Smoltz returns and send Bennett, who I’m figuring for the final spot, to Richmond. Bennett has options, Boyer doesn’t, for another thing. But we’ll have to see how it plays out.

Calling it a day. Thanks for welcoming me back in the loop. How bout them Davidson Wildcats!

By Steve McP

March 29, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

You are exactly right Carroll, Bennet will be available to pitch long relief if one of the pitchers cannot go early on, which is a role that cannot be filled by any of the other relievers, but I expect that (as I have said before) Chuck James (once he comes off of DL) will be the long reliever/spot starter in the first instance, unless a team feels that it has a major need for him and will trade an exceptional piece to get him. An occasion that only seems likely with an AL team as far as I am concerned.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

How can you get around MLB.com’s gameday telecasts?

By Austin

March 29, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

The blackouts I mean.

By chrisklob

March 29, 2008 12:44 AM | Link to this

I find that if I drink less, I have fewer blackouts! :-)

By mr baseball

March 29, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

A challenge to all you diehard Braves’ fans who are absolutely certain the team is returning to the playoffs. Cite one team in the majors with a weaker bench than the one the Braves are starting the season. You can even count Infante.

No player capable of starting at any position for more than a game or 2 a week. No veterans (except Corky). No hitters. 2 catchers. 2 2B. No 1B. No SS. No real 3B. No OF who has ever played in a major league game. The two weakest spots in the starting lineup are LF and CF and there is NOTHING behind them.

Throw in Lillibridge, Thorman and Schafer and make up a team with the 5 left and I doubt it would finish in the top half of a AAA league.

Ya’ll better pray that the 8 starters average about 145-150 starts because if any of the 5 guys on the bench have to play for an extended time, this team is going to be hurting.

No worries. I imagine all you guys are certain the new GM will fix things, just like the genius before him.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 12:57 AM | Link to this

Them Davidson Wildcats is just pure cheaters. They go to class and make good grades which is cheating. They got a unfair advantage.

By Kev

March 29, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

mr baseball

Those points you just stated there, are a CALL away in RICHMOND,or a TRADE away, we have Lillibrige, Thorman, Anderson, Schafer, Borchard, and a bunch of pitchers waiting for a call to the majors or to trade for…so get your head out of your A$$ and quit complaining, pal.

By Kev

March 29, 2008 1:15 AM | Link to this

mr baseball

forgot the most important OMAR INFANTE, who’s coming back in late APRIL and has PLENTY of MAJOR LEAGUE experience, starting, Pinch Hitting, you name it… PLUS he can play ALL over the g******* field 2B,SS,3B, LF,CF,RF and some 1B…so there you have it.

By Moby Grape

March 29, 2008 1:25 AM | Link to this

Man I can’t believe all the posters on here who want Borchard on the team. You think Thor sucked last season? Borchard has nothing but power. Can’t play D anywhere, can’t get on base. A total rally killer. The ability to get on base one way or another to keep a rally going and hopefully drive in runs is way more important that the occasional and with Borchard I do mean occasional homer. This guy is an absolutely putrid hitter. I mean I could understand it if y’all were a buncha chicks, cause I hear that chicks dig the long ball, but y’all are supposed to be knowledgeable baseball fans and you’re swayed by a chimera like Borchard, putting a few meaningless spring training atbats up against a career of worthlessness? C’mon get real.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 1:25 AM | Link to this

As if the bench is more important than the pitching, offense and defense.

It isn’t.

The bench is is versatile , defensive minded and I have the feeling that Frank Wren is far from done.

Some people never will understand or comprehend Bobby ball.

For those with short memories and IQ deficiencies, last seasons bench of Woodward, Orr, Thorman, Harris, Wilson and Miller wasn’t the reason the Braves missed the playoffs.

It was the pitching , S-T-U-P-I-D.

Last I checked , the Braves have more than any other team in the Division.

Now, that was way to easy.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 1:30 AM | Link to this

If I dont get some answers soon, I will reveal DOB’s past steroid use when he was breaking in with the Marlins.

By richie

March 29, 2008 1:37 AM | Link to this

It is about to be opening day and we are hearing complaints about the bench already? IMO, I see a lot of speed and versatility on the bench, almost all of the guys play multiple spots gotay, infante(when he comes back), blanco…those guys can fly. Prado is not a burner but he can move it. That helps in those late game situations when we dont have to go station to station, or if they lay down a bunt they actually have a chance to beat it out and cause extra. We will get that thumper off the bench before the trade deadline as well. Bobby is right to carry 8 relievers in April. The dang weather is so crazy, we dont need our starters trying to 7+ so early in the season. Let the weather get a warmer, when it is easier to loosen up and then you send one down and bring up another bat. Whoever is the hottest player in AAA, that can contribute to the team

By Moby Grape

March 29, 2008 1:54 AM | Link to this

I like jair, but some here seem to be looking at him like a future #1 or at the least 2. I think he projects as a good 3/ very good 4.FJR

Yeah I think that is much more likely. The national media had him rated as a 3-4 kinda guy B4 we got him. But hey this is a Braves’ board, so….

By cherokee

March 29, 2008 2:12 AM | Link to this

The Phillies have Jimmy Rollins and the Mets have Jose Reyes. Speed kills and the Braves have sent most theirs back to the minors.Coach

if so why did we outscore the Mets last season and hang tough with the Phils? Besides Blanco is the second fastest guy in camp. All that SB crap is proven to be way overrated anyway.only old fogies like it, coach.

By cherokee

March 29, 2008 2:19 AM | Link to this

A challenge to all you diehard Braves’ fans who are absolutely certain the team is returning to the playoffs. Cite one team in the majors with a weaker bench than the one the Braves are starting the season.MrBaseball

Actually I’m pretty pleased with the bench as it is. a lot of get on base guys. Hatteberg would be a nice addition though.Home runs are often over rated especially off the bench unless they go with the ability to get on regularly too.

By mr baseball

March 29, 2008 2:51 AM | Link to this

The Mets have Marlon Anderson, Damian Easley, Endy Chavez & Ramon Castro. The Phillies haev Werth, Toguchi, Helms, Dobbs & Coste. The Cubs have Ward, Cededo, Fontenot, Reed Johnson & Blanco. The Astros have Loretta, Blum, Erstad, Jose Cruz & Ausmus. Veteran players who have plenty of starting experience and are accustomed to playing in a reserve role.

The Braves have an injured Infante and a bunch of unproven youngsters. That’s not a bench. Braves are down a run in the 8th or 9th with runners on base & 2 outs and the pitcher’s spot due up. Who’s going to hit? Prado. That’s a joke.

As usual, Coach, you have no qualms about displaying your abysmal absence of knowledge. You really think the Braves have the best pitching? Much as I hate the Mets, I’ll take Santana, Maine, Perez & a diminished Pedro & you can have Hudson, 2 40-year-olds & Mr. DL. Wagner may be a choker, but he’s put up some pretty impressive numbers over his career. Soriano might be a prime time closer but he’s got to prove it.

Face it folks. This is still a cheap franchise. They’ll shell out bucks for the stars, but when it comes to the bench & bullpen, the cheaper the better. Next to maybe the Marlins, I’d wager that no team in baseball is spending less money on the bench & bullpen this season than the Braves.

You get what you pay for, and that most definitely applies to what passes for a bench in the ATL.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 3:22 AM | Link to this

In about six months and 162 games your not going to be able to show your fraudulent moniker in this blog without me trashing it.

I look forward to that day with relish.

By Cherokee

March 29, 2008 3:39 AM | Link to this

I don’t like to be a party-pooper, but I am still worried about the pitching holding up. If they all stay healthy then I think it’s a pretty decent staff,better than Mr Baseball predicts if not quite as good as the coach says; but there is a lot of potential for injury here. And I see the bullpen as lights out some days and duck for cover on others. Of course you can say that about most team’s pens most years. I’ll guess 86-88 wins and either 2nd or third in the NL East. Maybe a wild card. Better if they all stay healthy.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 4:20 AM | Link to this

John Smoltz = WINNER, Tom Glavine = WINNER, Tim Hudson = WINNER, Mike Hampton (when healthy)= WINNER

Smoltz 207-145

Glavine 303-199

Hudson 135-70

Hampton 138-101

This quartet has won 783 major league games so far. Why is something so damn simple so hard to understand?

I haven’t even considered Jair Jurrjens, Jeff Bennett, Chuck James and Jo-Jo Reyes.

Four proven winners, all that depth and some peoples kids still can’t figure out where the light switch is.

By BA

March 29, 2008 4:31 AM | Link to this

Coach, fill me in?! Showcasing Prado, picking up Gotay, what are you getting at? By the way, the Braves bench will be infinetly better when Blanco pulls an Escobar and takes over center. Then you got Kotsay, Pena, Prado…sounds like a solid bench to me. And anybody who says speed isn’t important is a fool. The best most recent example was Pierre/Castillo in Fla. Pure havoc. What about Grissom/Deshields? Or my favorite, the very rare Nixon/Sanders at the top of the lineup. But like you said, it’s Bobby’s preference. He loves that power. Hey, I heard when the Philly fans come, after the game they’re doing a new ritual. They all gather around and watch Brett Myers beat his wife, then they throw batteries at her! Lovely people.

By Bobby's Cox

March 29, 2008 5:03 AM | Link to this

Carol

I’d almost have to bet that bennett stays when Smoltz is activated even though he has options. Bobby loves having a ground ball specialist in his pen as long as i can remember, and Bennett has been getting tons of grounders lately. Tis the reason Cox fell in love with Yikes, i mean Yates.

Bennett stays.

By Deep Throat

March 29, 2008 5:32 AM | Link to this

Source

A little birdie tells me that the Braves’ long-rumored blue alternate jersey may make its debut in the team’s very first game of the season, this Sunday against the Nats. “GM Frank Wren wants it to be a big surprise,” reports my source. “The Braves have delayed putting out their merchandise catalog this year solely because the road alternate jersey is featured in it. The feeling is that by unveiling them in this fashion (nationally televised game on ESPN), sales will be through the roof as soon as the catalog is sent.”

By Cherokee

March 29, 2008 5:53 AM | Link to this

. The best most recent example was Pierre/Castillo in Fla. Pure havoc. What about Grissom/Deshields? Or my favorite, the very rare Nixon/Sanders at the top of the lineup.BA

Speed is great if it goes with skills, if not it sits on the bench and does next to nothing.My comment was about stolen bases, not speed in general. What I would like all you “speed Kills” addicts to explain is why the correlation between stolen bases and runs scored is so low compared to other things? Please explain that so a rational thinker might understand it. Along with why we outscored the Mets last season even though they stole 3 times as many bases as we did. Please please explain that if speed is so all-fired important? So You feel the need to call someone a fool? Seems like someone who believes in something like “speed kills” without empirical proof might just be the fool.

By LivininAL

March 29, 2008 6:11 AM | Link to this

At Richmond, I hope Thorman works on hitting and not just Swinging form his heels

By Moby Grape

March 29, 2008 6:25 AM | Link to this

This quartet has won 783 major league games so far. Why is something so damn simple so hard to understand?

I haven’t even considered Jair Jurrjens, Jeff Bennett, Chuck James and Jo-Jo Reyes.Coach

All those guys were winners but all except Huddy are at an age or injury situation that might not mean they will be winners this season, at least not all of them. Hopefully they will be, but it’s certainly not all that unlikely that time/injuries will start taking a toll soon perhaps this year. As for the 4 backups you mention God help us if we have to really rely on more than one of them most of a season, cause only Jurries is perhaps a longterm asset at the middle/back of the rotation. Sure let’s all hope that everybody stays healthy and they produce as you think they will, but it’s not all that difficult to understand how some wonder if that will really happen this season. And before you go all apecrap with insults, I’m not saying that they will fail, only that there is a higher possibility than I would like. I’m going with somewhere around 90 wins with no idea of where they will end up in the East as that depends as much on the Mets and Phillies as it does on the Braves, but hoping for at least a wildcard.Thats the highest prediction I’ve made in the last 4 years.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 6:32 AM | Link to this

BA , what I was getting at is the fact that Cox is notorious for going with veteran’s when given the option. He might be thinking about keeping Gotay and trading Prado. Then again, who knows. I still think that Brayan Pena will be traded.

Cherokee , tell your theory to Rickey Henderson and you will get an education.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 6:52 AM | Link to this

By the way Cherokee. I did a quick cursory glance at all of Jose Reyes game logs from last season.

The Mets were 57-24 when he got on base at least twice a game. That’s two to one odds.

By cherokee

March 29, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this

Cherokee , tell your theory to Rickey Henderson and you will get an education.Coach

It’s not my theory. it’s the theory of most who study the numbers.All you need to do is run a comparison of stolen base totals against runs scored and you see that there is not a huge correlation. Sometimes it has some correlation and lots of times it doesn’t. And Coach, Henderson is ancient history;what he says has little application to the modern game. The game is not played that way any more and likely never will be again. It’s about not making outs now and stolen base attempts lead to unneeded outs without increasing the scoring over the long run of a season. This is not a slow team except for McCann and Diaz, the rest of the guys have above average speed for the most part;plenty to get home from second on a single or first on a lot of doubles, plus they hit a lot of doubles and Bobby plays hit&run a good bit. Speed is an asset in today’s game, but for the most part steals are pretty low on the order anymore no matter hoe exciting they may be and whether we like it or not.

By Wayne in Utah

March 29, 2008 7:22 AM | Link to this

Can you believe it, it’s 5am out here. Couldn’t sleep, so I been paying some bills, catching up on the blog, etc.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the final opening day roster. Depth is great! Lots of suspects that could be moved in a last minute trade, but it might not happen. I am OK at this point with this bench, but I sure as heck like a better option for 1B-3B than some career middle infielders and a poor defensive catcher.

Gload is interesting, but he doesn’t answer the 3B backup situation. We always have Lillibridge in Richmond if needed for more than a game here or there. What would worry me would be one of those scenarios where Hoss has a nagging injury, and the decision to disable him was put off for 3+ days. We have seen that with some guys in the past. Then you end up sending down someone that is important otherwise. Having a Helms or Ensberg “type” on your club aleviates that situation.

Someone yesterday was talking about hoping Blanco beats out Kotsay. If it happens for all the right reasons, then I am ALL for it. The right reasons would be that Blanco truly outperforms Kotsay on a day to day basis, and NOT that Kotsay necessarily struggles. That would be a good problem to have.

My scenario: By early June, Schafer is tearing it up in Miss., and Kotsay and Blanco are doing well, but not exceptional. Bring up the kid for a 2 week tryout. Who knows?

Sometimes on these decisions, you just gotta play some games, and things sort themselves out.

Dang, I’m starting to sound like WW with my long arse post and all.

DOB I will be in Denver on the nights of April 7th and 8th for company business. Going to the 8th game for sure, and maybe the 7th. I will probably be in the cheap seats (I am a cheap SOG). What would be the best chance to stop by and say hello?? It might not be possible, but it would be nice to shake your hand personally and thank you for all your work on our behalf. I could always wear my Utah Jazz hat to make me more recognizable….wonder how that would go over in Nuggets land????

:-)

I am going back to bed now (5:20am here) to see if I can catch 2 more hours of sleep, it IS Saturday.

Carroll I have a new concept for some Opening Day lyrics. If I get a chance, I might post them later on Saturday evening/night.

My man D-Will tore it up last night. Took the kiddo to the game…cheap seats again!

What’s shakin’ McFann?

By Cherokee

March 29, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this

The Mets were 57-24 when he got on base at least twice a game. That’s two to one oddsCoach

no surprise there, that’s one of the key’s to the modern game coach, getting on base. Much higher correlation with that than with steals.maybe I’m overstating or mis-communicating. having a speed demon is just peachy as long as he gets on base enough to use it and you aren’t giving up a more important part of the game just to get speed in the line-up.It was my impression that this started with the Blanco/Anderson debate. Blanco has almost as much speed even though he is not a great base-stealer at this point, but he has a history of getting on base a whole lot more that Anderson does, so I agree with whoever(Moby I think) that going by history Blanco is likely the more productive player…if they play approximately like they have in their minor league careers.

BTW you still haven’t explained how we outscored the Mets when they stole 3 times as many bases as we did.:-)

By BayAreaSteve

March 29, 2008 7:46 AM | Link to this

Cherokee, you’re communicating fine. My sense is that it’s more of a matter of who you’re communicating with.

By David-ATL14

March 29, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

Yeah my mistake on saying the cuts weren’t coming last night.

Carroll Rogers doing her always steady fill in job though, got us all the pertinent info. Much appreciated.

Coach, some rare praise coming your way. Keep up the diatribe with the tragically labeled mr.baseball.

As many others have pointed out including the Crusading One himself

the title just doesn’t fit, when all that is put forth is p** poor analysis.

Case in point his flawed take on the bench.

This bench will be okay and the power bats for the bench will be a dime a dozen later in the year. Always are/always will be.

By BrandonC

March 29, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

I still think Pena is being shopped and was put on the roster solely because they don’t want to put him on waivers yet. I expect a deal within the first week of the season for a better bat/ 1B backup.

By Thrillhouse44

March 29, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

ChrisKlob, I find that if I drink less, I have fewer blackouts!

And what’s the fun in that?

Braveheart, I finally uploaded your favorite music video to YouTube. Enjoy, man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWI6AIt-9-I&feature=related

Mr. Baseball, the Braves won’t make the playoffs because they don’t have the best bench in baseball? I have to agree with Coach here: the starting lineup, rotation, and bullpen are a lot more important.

By JC from UT

March 29, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Something must be up with the Gotay signing and BC keeping 2 catchers on the roser. Infante, Prado or Gotay is going to be traded along with Pena. BC never keeps 3 catchers out of spring training and Miller is/was on a minor league contract. They cold have sent him down without waivers. This makes me believe Pena is being shopped but FW just needs little more time to get what he wants. Otherwise why not keep Josh Anderson for the bench and keep only 2 catchers.

By Question

March 29, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered above. Now that Thorman has cleared waivers and been sent down, if we bring him up and then decide to send him back down does he have to clear waivers again? Basically, will he have to clear waivers each time he goes up and down?

Thanks

By BosnianBaller

March 29, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

I’m glad the braves got gotay he can hit.in ‘04 he was the royals top 5 prospects

By BosnianBaller

March 29, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

I’m glad the braves got gotay he can hit.in ‘04 he was the royals top 5 prospects

By flange1

March 29, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Good Morning All,

VERY interesting evening last night with the roster moves that we saw.

The doom and gloomers are saying the bench stinks, but lets look at it a bit.

It is very young. It does not have a huge amount of power but both Blanco and Prado have had a good season in AAA behind them, a winter season and a good spring training. Both have hit well.

Not that that will translate into the bigs, but it is a good sign.

Gotay has hit everywhere he has played. He can play 2B, ss, 3B.

Corky is a great defensive catcher with a strong arm. Not a great hitter, but a good guy to back up McCann.

Pena is a good contact switch hitter with a little pop that can play 3 or 4 positions. I see him a as a pinch hitter.

There is not a doubt that this IS a non-name bench, but all of the players on it do 1 or more things well.

When Infante returns, the bench will get deeper.

As some said last night, I think there is at least 1 more move to come. The addition of Gotay allows FW to trade Prado if he needs to. B. Pena is a luxury and could also get moved.

We also have to think how good our team at Richmond is going to be. We have depth that almost made the team at almost EVERY position if someone gets hurt, and the pitching staff of Chuckie, Morton, Jo Jo, Buddy or Bennett and one of the kids is wonderful.

I think the Braves are in the best position to contend in MANY years.

This should be a fun year. I can’t wait for tomorrow night!

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 29, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Caroll (or anyone else that would know): if Teixeira gets hurt and has to spend a significant amount of time on the DL and the Braves call up Thorman to fill in his spot, would Thorman have to clear waivers again if the Braves try to send him back to the Minors?

Great job on the blog today and yesterday!

By Braveheart

March 29, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Now playing on Thrillhouse44’s IPOD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKR_2GuU0xo

By flange1

March 29, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Daybed,

I believe that the answer to your question is YES, he is out of options and to go to Richmond the first, second or whatever time, he would have to clear waivers.

By jim

March 29, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Coach,

You can’t steal first base. Anderson and Lillibridge were sent back to Richmond because they could not hit enough to play regularly or to to take sufficient advantage of their speeed. Pete Orr was probably the fastest man on the team last year and what advantage did that provide? When Harris was going well after he was first called up, he was a threat on the basepaths and Cox made good use of his speed. When he slumped, his speed meant nothing offensively. In 1991, having Nixon at the top of the order was a big plus, and Cox utilized the stolen base as an offensive weapon. If Reyes or Rollins were a Brave, I’m sure Cox would use their speed to advantage, but Anderson and Lillibridge are not them!

By jim

March 29, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Thorman is no longer on the 40 man roster. He was outrighted to Richmond. Room would have to be made on the roster before he could be recalled.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Cherokee’s got you on that one Coach. Reyes getting on twice a game correlates to OBP and not speed. Besides, even when we have a player capable of stealing bases, Bobby Cox never has them run.

On the other hand, the Braves have plenty of team speed-and the ability to take extra bases and to go from first to third or second to home on singles. As a matter of fact, most players (with the exception of McCann) move pretty damned well.

You can tell the season is about to start-the Doom and Gloomers are back-in full force.

By flange1

March 29, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

WOW,

Aaron Carter on the MIB blog, that HAS to be a first! ANyone want to mention him in the same sentence with the Stones and Beatles? OOPS, guess I just did…

SORRY DOB!

By jim

March 29, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I don’t buy the argument that Cox has never utilized the base-stealing ability of the people he has had. I think he used what base stealing ability that he had to about the same degree as most other managers would. When Chipper was younger he would steal 20-30 bases/year with a high percentage of success. Andruw stole about 30 bases in one of his first three years, but his running skills diminished very quickly afterward. I don’t think either of these two would have stolen more in another organization. Furcal would steal about 40 bases per year when he was here. I don’t think his success rate warranted attmpting more than this amount, and he hasn’t stolen more while with the Dodgers. Grissom was a big stolen base threat in his early years with the Expos, but by the time he came to the Braves (and afterward) he was not the same threat to steal. I think this was more the effect that the high stolen base total had taken on his body than Cox reigning him in. When Nixon was first a Brave, he stole 70 bases in a year and he was not inhibited by Cox because his success rate warranted the high attempted steal rate. Gant was also a 30+ stolen base man a year with the early 90’s Braves.

By David-ATL14

March 29, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Far, Far too much needless worry about the supposed backup 1b.

People, Tex is going to play 150-155 games this season. We have by both BC and Wren’s count at least 4-6 names to choose from when Tex is rested. Surely we can extract 5-10 starts out of those candidates if needed.

Now the naysayers out there will query “” What if Tex is injured?”“

If so then Wren can address that in short order. Thorman was not going to fill in for Tex anyway with anything resembling a DL type injury.

Wren would still be forced to trade for a solid professional 1b.

Nothing has changed in that regard whether Thorman is here or in Richmond.

IMO-Gotay,Pena,Blanco and Prado will all prove to be far more valuable as bench players than Thunderless Thor.

Also when the usual candidates emerge to be procured in June, Infante will have returned also.

The extra 4-6 weeks may allow Wren the time needed to single out the best option for acquistion.

If Tex stays healthy then the professional bat can be brought in for the bat,not solely because he plays 1b.

The Jeff Conines of the world are readily availabe every season without fail. Usually fairly cheap by that time also.

Just pick any MLB season and check the transaction wire. Easily the most obtainale commodity within the game. It happens every year.

Yes I know that Conine has retired but he was just used as an example because IMO he epitomizes what Wren will be looking for in the future aka “The Professional Bat”. Those type players will be a dime a dozen so to speak in June or July.

If disaster strikes and Tex goes on the DL before then, Wren has the resources that he’s so far not squandered to make a move. Both in money for taking on salary and in depth needed to snag the chosen player.

In short, Money still in pocket, depth still intact.

A smart move by Wren to hold on to both assets until it can be pinpointed further what the actual needs will be.

Absolutely no sense whatsoever to acquire a single position 1b with mediocre talent at this juncture just to appease the public for 5-7 games.

Climbs off soapbox-feeling better both about the Braves and blog denizens in general.

By JimD

March 29, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Great post, David. I agree wholeheartedly.

By BravesFanInRockies

March 29, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Coach

I know you’re a speed freak (and I mean that in a good way), but with today’s compressed rosters (12-man staffs, only five bench guys), it’s hard to keep a pure speed burner around unless he has a full range of skills and I’m not sure Anderson has them. (The oft-mentioned Dave Roberts, for instance, was a pretty effective full-time player when the Bosox picked him up in 2004.)

Bobby must think Blanco could actually contribute more in a full 9 inning game than Anderson and I would tend to agree. Anderson needs to show he can draw walks and hit for a little more power. He hasn’t done that for long stretches of his minor league career. He did better in the majors last year but that was in limited action near the end of a season when the Astros were basically phoning it in.

Sure he’s got tons of range and can steal bases, but if that’s all he’s got then it’s not enough to fill a bench spot that’s more valuable than it was in the days of 10-man pitching staffs.

Frankly, I hope he can show more skills in Richmond. And I hope Blanco pushes for lots of PT.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Good morning, denizens….Jeff Bennett claims the final roster spot this morning, and Buddy Carlyle was optioned to Richmond so that should do it, barring a trade. Bennett was pretty happy, to say the least, gearing up for a role in long relief. The quick assumption I made was that he might be the guy to go down when Smoltz comes off the DL because he has options left. But then when you think about it, Bennett is the only guy who’s in shape to go long relief, and the Braves could use a guy like that aka Oscar Villareal, especially early in the season when all the starters might not be ready to go seven innings every night. So perhaps when the time comes Bennett won’t be the guy who goes. But I can tell you this for sure for now, Bennett is on the 25-man, Carlyle to Richmond.

By chrisklob

March 29, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Braveheart

Dude, THAT was harsh!

By BossLady

March 29, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I want all of the Cleveland pitchers. Those guys stats and the way they came in hurling and throwing heat. Good pitching is everything.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Jim-Maybe you’d better go check out the Braves base stealing stats before you claim Cox has his people run.

When Coach speaks of Reyes stealing bases, he’s talking in the 60-75 SB range. In the 14 seasons since 1993, no Brave has stolen anywhere near that many bases. As a matter of fact, in the six seasons he spent with the Braves, Furcal only stole 40 or more twice-40 his rookie season and 46 the last year he was here.

Sorry Dude, Bobby Cox relies MUCH more on Home Run power than he does stolen bases. You’re just wrong on this one.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

MLB.COM

Can you use a different zip code not in a blacked out area to see blacked out games?

By Lew

March 29, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Jim-One more thing-Yes, Chipper DID steal 20 one season and 25 another, but nowhere near that many since ‘99. Andruw hasn’t stolen anywhere near 20 bases since 2000, either. For the past seven seasons, no Brave except Furcal has stolen over 20 bases. Sorry Dude, Bobby doesn’t have his team run that often.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

One last thing on this base stealing thing (DOB blog math)-Y’all are upset that we kept Blanco instead of Josh Anderson. First, Blanco is almost as fast as Josh. Second, how many games is either of these players likely to play this year, considering they will be the fourth outfielder and play about 50 games?

Even considering they won’t get on every game they play, how much stealing would they have done, anyway? Find something else to be disaffected about. That one doesn’t fly (pun intended).

By Wayne in Utah

March 29, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

David ATL-14

Agree with most of what you state. The only possible deal I can phathom us making in the next few days would be something like this: Pena and a pitcher (Ring?) for a 3B-1B player, with OK defensive skills, and some pop in his bat. I don’t think we go for someone who is a strict firstbaseman. Otherwise, Thorman would have stayed.

We might be done for a while. Sometimes it is best to play a month or so and see how the pieces are fitting.

By TexasBrave

March 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

I have said this before that we should send Bennett down once Smoltz returns. We need to see how the three of Boyer, Resop and Ring are going to shake out. So when it does come time later in the season that we need a spot starter and upon Gonzalez return we have a better idea of who to keep.

Although not completely enthralled with the idea, Boyer did start games last season in Richmond. I realize he did not do particularly great and given the fact that his appearances have only lasted one inning during spring training, the fact of the matter is you usually only need a long reliever after all hell has broken loose with one of your starters and you just need some innings eaten.

Another reason to send Bennett down is to get some innings of work in so he can go longer as that spot starter, if he is the one to be called up, which he is not going to get if he stays up.

By Steve McP

March 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Austin, your zip code is the one on the billing statement for your credit card, so unless you have a second home outside of the area it won’t work (I tried!)

By jim

March 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Lew,

Furcal was/is not the base stealer that Reyes is. His success rate is much lower. He should not run with the same impunity as Reyes. How many bases would Reyes steal if he played for Cox? We won’t know that unless Cox has a Reyes type base stealer. When he had one, Nixon stole 70 bases.
The point is moot, however, because there is no one in the Braves organization (AA or better) that is capable of stealing 70 bases a year. If we could put Anderson on 1b 38% of the time he bats, then he might steal 50+ bases, but unfortunately he is not ready to get there anywhere near that often.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Thank youSteve McP

I guess the only solution would be for my brother-in-law to order it and me pay him.

Excellent.

By TexasBrave

March 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Just add to what David ATL-14 said about the bench. I understand that the guys we have right now are not going to win many games with the homerun, but I do believe that they, especially Blanco, Prado and Pena, will get timely hits to keep a rally going and give the top of the line up a chance to win it.

Now do I believe we should stand pat with what we have, no. But as benches go things could be worse. Think Woodward, Thorman, Wilson and Orr. Now which bench would you rather have?

By Lew

March 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

JIm-Actually, I think Furcal should have run much more than what he did. Deion Sanders stole 56 in Cincinnati after leaving the Braves, but never stole more than 38 while in Atlanta.

Sorry Dude, if we had Reyes, he would only steal about 40 in Atlanta. That’s just the way Bobby Cox is. He has all those bangers coming up and just doesn’t worry about base stealing. Can you actually see him sending KJ with Yunel, Chipper, Tex, Francoeur and McCann following? I don’t see that as a possibility-even if Reyes lead off for us.

Besides-I refer you to my 12:08 post.

By richie

March 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

There were 2 things that slowed Furcal from being the basestealer we wanted when he was here. THe 1st was the separated shoulder that eneded his 2001 season. He wasnt nearly as aggressive stealing bases in the following years. And the 2nd, IMO, was those homer binges he would try to go on after a stretch of games where he would hit a couple of homers. His swing would start to get that uppercut to it and he would stop the chop swing that was effective with him getting on base. He wouldnt bunt to the left side anymore, like that bunt double he had at Shea in 01.

By nolie

March 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

For the past seven seasons, no Brave except Furcal has stolen over 20 bases. Sorry Dude, Bobby doesn’t have his team run that often.Lew

Hey Lew, in 2000 the Braves were second in the league in stolen bases. Florida stole more but the Braves outscored them by 70 runs. so it does happen sometimes when he has speed that he is comfortable with, though you are right that he usually depends more on doubles and homers.

Actually for an old f@rt he plays pretty modern ball. He doesn’t usually sacrifice a lot with position players which guarantees an out;he doesn’t usually steal a whole lot which can cause outs by being caught. he does play hit & run a fair bit and that is the safest approach to small-ball since it seldom causes an out. I don’t know if he plans it that way but that’s how it is. Save those outs boys.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Josh Anderson simply doesn’t get on base enough to merit beating out blanco, who gets on base more and hits more doubles.

Some people on here talk like an infield single and a stolen base are better than a double. THIS IS NOT TRUE.

In 2007 Josh’s minor league OBP was .325. For a guy with no power, this is bad. Sure he was good for his 21 game callup, but several factors play in here. 1) small sample size 2) opposing teams didn’t fully realize how fast he was yet and were still playing too far back on the infield against him, thus he had a ton of infield hits. Once the scouting report gets around, look for his OBP to return to what it was in the minors 3)Pitchers hadn’t yet realized they don’t have to throw Josh anderson low strikes. They can throw the ball up and he’ll either pop up (neutralizing his speed), swing and miss and there is no danger of a homerun.

I’m not saying this to rag on Josh Anderson, I think he’s a good kid, but I really don’t see him being anywhere near what Kotsay is or even Blanco. He’s willie harris with more speed and even less pop.

By nolie

March 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Good 10:52 post David-A14

By McFann

March 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Two BUC’s? Well, that answers my Q. Also glad Bennett made the team over Carlyle. No offense to Buddy, but Jeff was much better this Spring. I’m happy for Blanco, too, but I wanted Lillibridge—not Prado.

Hey, ‘sup, Wayne? We just got back from running errands. I cannot wait till tomorrow night!!

I hope they wear those new uniforms—I can’t wait to see them! Not that I have anything against the gray ones, but blue’s a bit more exciting.

By Sir Stealth

March 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

I don’t think your zip code for mlb.com has anything to do with your billing information. I’m pretty sure it’s taken from wherever you happen to be receiving your internet from at that time. If you plug in in New York, you’re blacked out in New York. If you take a wireless signal from Atlanta, you’re blacked out in Atlanta. Could be very wrong though.

By Shamus Thacker

March 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Last year’s bench sucked like an F-5.

This one HAS to be better.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

nolie-You’re proving my point-it’s been seven seasons. What does it really matter, though? The Braves always have a good offense and it’s runs that count, not stolen bases (unless you play fantasy baseball). Team speed is infinitely more important and THAT we have. How many bases would Kelly logically steal leading off when he hits 16 Home Runs and another 10 triples? Maybe he could steal home.

By richie

March 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

I like the makeup of this year’s bench way better than last years bench. 2 switch hitters, a lefty and a righty. We tried the pop off the bench with Wilson and thorman. Most of their power went backwards or in foul territory. Let’s try a contact bench and see what happens. Make those relievers work. A pitcher can get over a homer faster than he can a 20+ pitch unfinished inning, where we are running the bases on him. What do you think?

By AdirondackDave

March 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

So Jeff Bennett gets a spot. I really feel good about that. The guy has been very solid and sould significantly help the club this year.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Shamus-Amen to that thought. I don’t think there could ever be a less productive bench than what passed for one in Atlanta last year.

Tomorrow night is my first Braves game in HD. I watched part of a rerun of one of the Red Sox games from Japan in HD last night. WOW!!! First time I could actually read those graphics since the first of ten eye surgeries. I can’t wait. Hope that the MLB Extra Innings package will be in HD.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Talked to Bruce Manno - asst. GM - about the Thorman hypothetical question and here’s what he said….say tex gets hurt this year, and the braves decide to bring thorman up from richmond. if they were to send him back down after a stint up here, at that point, it would be the second time they outrighted him (he’s out of options, so no more optioning) and with your second outright the player would have the choice of whether or not to accept the assignment or to become a free agent.

By mitchie-san

March 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

I agree with TexasBrave. This years bench is not exactly ideal, but it is an improvement over last year! ( even if its a small one….) The names Woodward and Wilson still make me shiver….not as much as Reitsma or Redman, but still make me ill. I am also in shock about Redman being the opening dat starter for the National League Champion Colorado Rockies. What’s up with that?!?!?!

By THE BEAR

March 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

When we are behind by one or tied in late innings and it’s time to call in a PH I want someone who can GET A HIT. If it is a HR that’s fine but I WANT A HIT. How many times last year did Andruw come up in that situation (not as a PH) and hit into a DP or strike out? He couldn’t resist the urge to hit it OUT. DUMB is the word I am looking for.

If I have the choice of a batter who can hit .300 (Diaz) or a power hitter who can hit .225 (Thorman)(with a HR ever 20 AB’s) I’ll take the .300 hitter every time. He will keep the rally going or will start a new one while the power guy will fail most of the time.

30 dingers a year are fun to watch but how many games do they win? How many times did Andruw hit a HR with the bases empty or after the game had been settled? Give me a Matt Diaz type or someone who can go up there with the probability of getting a hit when I need a HIT.

Another examply; Escobar is going to be an outstanding hitter but he is going to do it with clutch hits rather than with power.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Well, maybe more people are realizing this Braves team is good. I just read where Ken Rosenthal picked the Braves to win it all! Unbelievable. Again, on paper the Braves aren’t necessarily as talented as the Mets or Dodgers or maybe even the Phillies. You could even add the Cubs, Brewers, and Rockies to that list as well. Although, I would contend they are but I could see the argument that they are not. But, what makes this year’s Braves team so good and so potent is that they have depth everywhere. If a pitcher whether they be starter or reliever go down, somebody compotent is there to fill in. With Gotay in the mix the Braves have depth in the infield. They have a helluva lot of depth in the outfield. They also have depth at catcher. First base seems to be the only position where they lack depth and I think that problem will be solved sooner than later. And, I think they can solve it because as Ken Rosenthal said, they have pieces to trade to get what they need!

A few predictions.

By the end of the year Yunel Escobar is mentioned as a guy approaching the abilities of Jimmy Rollins, Hanley Ramierez, and to a lesser extent Jose Reyes.

Jeff Francouer makes the all-star team.

Brian McCann returns to form and hits .285+ with 20HR and 95RBI.

Mike Hampton actually surprises us all and wins 12+games with an ERA of around 4.00.

Rafael Soriano makes the all-star team and saves 40 games.

Jair Jurrjens is a rookie sensation and wins 15 games!

Mark Texieria wins the NL MVP with 45 HR and 135 RBI.

Chipper Jones plays in 135 games with a .315avg; 35HR; 110 RBI.

Kelly Johnson becomes the best all around leadoff hitter in the NL with a .285 avg; .375 obp; 20 HR; 70 RBI; 110+ runs.

Matt Diaz and Gregor Blanco wind up platooning in LF making the best platoon in the NL with Diaz hitting .345 avg and an obp nearing .400. Blanco will hit .290 with an obp of .400+ with 30+SB although he will get caught more times than he should especially early in the season.

And, finally Tim Hudson, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz will combine to win 50+ games with Hudson being a serious contender for the Cy Young.

Also, Chuck James will shine at Richmond gaining his confidence back along with a quality second pitch and will give the Braves plenty of reason to believe he will be a stud in 2009. Also, Brent Lillibridge, B. Jones, and Scott Thorman will shine at Richmond all correct the flaws in their offense giving the Braves plenty of hope for 2009 and Lillibridge will push Gotay for his roster spot by mid July!

By Steve McP

March 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Pena DH today - Does this mean that he has made the team?

By jim

March 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

One last note,

Last year Willie Harris had an OBP of 0.348 in 345 AB. He had 17 SB and was CS 11 times. This does not indicate that Cox was reluctant to run, but his best base stealer had a success rate of only 60%. Reyes’s career success rate is 80%. He had 78 SB in 681 AB + 77 BB last year.

Reyes: 191 hits - 24 HR and 3B = 167 hit + 77 BB = 244 steal opportunities. 98 attempts = 40% of the time he was on base he attempted a steal (this includes the number of times he tried to steal 2 bases in one on base opportunity) with a success rate of just under 80%.

Harris: 93 hits - 10 HR and 3B = 83 hit + 40 BB = 123 steal opportunities. 28 attempts = 23% of time on base he attempted a steal with a success rate of 60%.

These numbers indicate to me not so much a reluctance to run by Cox, but a realistic assessment of the capabilities of the people he has that can run.

By mitchie-san

March 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Game on!!!

By Epinephrine

March 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Robert,

There is no way that Chuck spends the year in Richmond. I would be absolutely shocked if he doesn’t spend significant time pitching for the Bravos this year-either because of injuries or someone falling apart (especially at the end of the year, when our effectiveness in the most season may well depend on giving Hampton, Smotlz, and Glavine some rest). We have depth at pitching, but it is depth we will need.

By Murphy

March 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

I for one do not understand anyone picking the Phillies over us. Look at their line-up! They have an all star top 4-5, but after that the numbers drop of tremendously! Our line-up is much stronger start to finish than theirs is. Then there is the pitching…

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

steveP, pena is on the team. we knew that last night - that’s what i wrote. today it became official with the final spot going to bennett.

so bench is gotay, prado, blanco, miller and pena

hampton breezed through the first inning, allowing only an infield hit (after kelly was seemingly coming from right field on the play). ahead of every hitter. two flyouts and a groundout.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Carroll Rogers, you wrote a rather nice article today about Jeff Bennett.

But, he’s not 30, His correct age is 27.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

gotay getting his first action today. just went in at second base top of the second inning.

looks like rain is coming folks, not looking pretty over the left field facade. few drops are falling and it smells like rain.

By Lew

March 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

JIm-Quite honestly, Dude, it’s a moot point. There is no one in the starting lineup that will steal more than 20 bases. There is no way that even were he on the roster, Anderson would get to play enough to steal 20 or more. So tell me-what does it really matter? It’s not the way the team is set up, has been set up or will be set up while Bobby Cox manages the Braves. That is ALL there is to it. Like it or not that is the reality of the situation.

However…..Have you seen the players brought in by Frank Wren? Speed seems to be something HE is looking for.

Oh-one last thing-How many Championships have the Mets won with Reyes? Seems to me they didn’t even repeat as Eastern Division winner. Seems the speed didn’t help them all that much, now did it? Oh, and in case you didn’t notice, Willie Harris sucks.

By Epinephrine

March 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Wow, hopefully Kelly isn’t hurt. I could see that slide having tweaked his knee, or I could see them wanting Gotay to get some PT. Either way, hopefully he is fine.

By Murphy

March 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Before the responses begin, I meant the Phillie have an all-star 1-4/5. Bad wording on my part…

By DirtyDawg

March 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Is it just me or does Frenchy seem ‘gun-shy’ at the plate? He flinches on almost every pitch. I mean it’s bad enough not being able to get out of the way of a ‘change-up’, but to let it effect you like it seems to have JF is telling. Also, this business of his adding weight to improve his power, all it appears is that it’s slowed his swing down - as if that were possible - to the point that he’s just flailing away at the plate, plus he looks slower in the outfield. He hasn’t run down a single fly ball that I’ve seen. Bottom line, it would seem that he’s decided that his best chance of getting the big bucks in arbitration following this season is to be more of a power hitter - at this rate he’ll have to go some to even match last year’s numbers. I think he’s getting some bad advice.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

That’s it - Mike Hampton made it through the spring healthy. he finished with a three innings tune up. allowed one run, on a two-out casey blake RBI single (two-out trouble started wtih a bunt down the third baseline for a hit by Asdrubal Cabrera). he gave up four hits, struck out two, walked none and threw 31 of his 41 pitches for strikes.

it’s only spitting out there a bit now. course that’s easy for me to say, we have the press box windows closed now.

to prevent any confusion, the roster:

Pitchers (12): Tim Hudson, Tom Glavine, Jair Jurrjens, Mike Hampton, Rafael Soriano, Peter Moylan, Will Ohman, Manny Acosta, Blaine Boyer, Royce Ring, Chris Resop, Jeff Bennett

Catchers (3): Brian McCann, Corky Miller, Brayan Pena

Infielders (6): Yunel Escobar, Kelly Johnson, Chipper Jones, Mark Teixeira, Ruben Gotay, and Martin Prado.

Outfielders (4): Matt Diaz, Jeff Francoeur, Mark Kotsay, Gregor Blanco

Disabled list (2): John Smoltz, Chuck James

By Nick

March 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg: You’re right. We should just trade him as soon as possible.

By SandyB

March 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Interesting article about Bobby Cox. This quote might explain a little about why so many former Braves are getting sent down/cut as we’ve noticed over the past few days:

Asked what sets Cox apart, former pitching coach Leo Mazzone said, “Aside from his common sense and his people skills, his ability to make people around him better than they are.”

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

lightning was too much for the umpires to ignore anymore. we’re in a delay, starting at 2:19.

three other guys the braves put on the DL last week were Omar Infante and Mike Gonzalez on the 15-day, Anthony Lerew on the 60-day

By Chop Chop

March 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

I want to give a shoutout to GHF for mentioning that he was getting the Braves’ PTV broadcast on Mediacom channel 77 in Americus. I was out last night, but I saw his post today, turned it over to Ch. 77 here in Albany…and I have Braves baseball. And now it’s a rain delay! Yippee!

Anyway, you saved me a lot of angst, GHF. Go Braves!

By SandyB

March 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Does anyone have any info about Westbrook? Like, was he drafted by the Indians? I heard he was from this area. Shame we missed out on him…

By Yars

March 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Carroll….any news on KJ? Was he taken out after the 1st inning so Gotay could get some playing time, or was he hurt? He’s been nursing a sore knee & went in hard at 2B trying to break up that double play.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

I hate Peachtree TV. I hate Peachtree TV. I hate Peachtree TV. I hate Peachtree TV. I hate Peachtree TV.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

coach, i wrote that carlyle was 30, not bennett

By etownbrave

March 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Anyone having any luck contacting DishNetwork? Have sent email and tried to talk to someone to no avail. I guess those of us who can’t get cable are SOL. Thanks, Carroll for all the updates and news while DOB off.

By Chop Chop

March 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Yeah. The channel I get PTV on has a frozen “Cheers” scene of Norm and Sam. I guess we’re not allowed to watch PTV programming if the Braves aren’t playing. That’s fine with me, but the game better be back on if/when it resumes. Otherwise, I’ll start torching stuff.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Congrats to Hampton for making it through ST with only one injury—that is, one injury that wasn’t anything to worry about.

A rain delay in a Spring Training game is aggravating, but at least we don’t hafta sit through Bloopers, Three Day Weekend, Junkin’ or any of those other dumb shows they used to show on Turner South or TBS during delays.

Ms. Rogers, thanks for filling in for DOB today and yesterday.

By midtownBrave

March 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Austin yeah i hope kelly’s alright, and hopefully they were just trying to get gotay some ABs. anyway i think it was escobar and not kelly who went in hard to break up that DP in the 1st.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Westbrook is from Athens. He was drafted in the first round by Colorado. He got traded, eventually, to the Yankees, then went to the Indians in a package for David Justice.

So there’s a Braves connection. Sorta.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Isn’t nice that I am going to miss the home opener? Good God I don’t know what I am going to do. 45 DAMN games.

By TexasBrave

March 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Hey is anyone having any luck iwith watching the game on MLB.com? I have been trying for about 45 minutes now and it doesn’t play. Could be my weak @ss computer or could it be that the game is delayed and they don’t show anything during delays?

By KC

March 29, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

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OPENING NIGHT VIEWING PARTY MOVED:

A number of us blog acquaintances are getting together to watch the Braves opening night. This is an open invitation, and you are welcome to come.

We had planned on having this GTG at Fox Sports Grill… however, for a few reasons, we will be moving it to Frankie’s In the Prado, near the junction of GA-400 and Hwy-285.

If you would like to come, please email me at embassypro@hotmail.com (just so we can save a seat for you)

Frankie’s In the Prado

8pm

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Three catchers on the 25 man roster, that’s a new twist for Bobby Cox.

Smoltz and James on the D.L.

An eight man bullpen.

This roster isn’t done yet, in fact, I’m convinced that the Braves will be involved in a trade before Smoltz comes off the D.L.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Carroll — thanks for clearing that up. So, in other words, Thorman would be “designated for assignment” if the Braves wanted to send him back down?

By Spazz

March 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Austin - I sure hope things change so that you can see the games, but give it a rest already would you?

By McFann

March 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Dang, Austin, that’s tough. Pretty harsh language for someone of your age though.

Dude, they need to either call the game off, get on with it, or put on Leave It To Beaver…

Anyway, they need to make a decision quick. The Braves have to get up to DC.

After the Braves got picked as the guests of honor at the Nat’s ballpark opener, they should have changed their own home opener to Tuesday. Then they’d get a day off in between games.

By DAP

March 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

goog luck to my hometown augusta state jaguars!

they are on cbs playing for the ncaa division II championship as i type!

go jags!

By Austin

March 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Regarding Odalis Perez Current active non-pitchers on the roster are a combined 20-44 (.454) against Perez.

Should be a fun game tomorrow night!

Go Braves!

By McFann

March 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

midtownBrave—

It was Johnson that busted up the double play in the first.

By Andy K

March 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Carroll-Since most of us are on MLB.TV…we don’t know what’s going on. Is the rain letting up? When is the game expected to resume? Thanks In Advance!

By Austin

March 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Spazz

I’ll try because I know it is annoying. But nothing can describe my anguish and pain at the moment.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

I got it, Austin: Try CSS. They’re showing the PTV games, I’m pretty sure.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

The final tally on Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, Hudson, Jurrjens and Bennett.

27 starts, 87 innings, 27 earned runs and an ERA of 2.79

I’m laughing all the way to the Bank.

By Andy K

March 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah they better get this game in quickly…I wonder what time the plane leaves for D.C.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

tapr is off, rain is stopped. game to resume at 3:20…

By FJR

March 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

I’m guessing this game has to be done. No way they would start the last spring training game back up after an hour delay when both teams are leaving town tonight.

By Spazz

March 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Rain has stopped and they are fixing to resume. Damian Moss on to pitch for Braves

By Austin

March 29, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Thanks McFann Only problem is I have DIRECTV.

By Spazz

March 29, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Moss just struck out the side.

By Austin

March 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Moss strikes out the side.

By will36206

March 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Austin, I feel your pain. I have direct tv also!

By SandyB

March 29, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

thanks, PeteH. He looked good today with family and friends watching. Good thing we won’t have to see him again til maybe WS!

By JimD

March 29, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Interesting things about Brayan Pena according to Baseball Reference

At Myrtle Beach in 2002, he played 116 games as SS - and made 16 errors for a .945 FP

Last season at Richmond he played almost as many games at 1B as at Catcher (1B=22, C=32)

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

damian moss struck out the side in his first inning of mop-up duty. 19 pitches. 14 strikes. 5 balls.

no official word on kelly but i would imagine they took him out only as precaution/get gotay at-bats. we haven’t gone down to the clubhouse yet because they haven’t called up to say we can talk to hampton. i imagine since it’s getaway day and everybody will be here until the end of the game, we’ll just have to get him afterward.

By DAP

March 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

LEW what eveidence do you see that says bobby is the reason furcal-or anyone else-hasnt stole 70 bases for the braves since nixon?

there arent that many players that steal 70 anyways…what guys have we had that were capable of it?

if bobby was the reason, why did noxon do it?

and if bobby was the reason, why is furcal’s highest stolen base year 2005 with the braves?

i think its morelikely that we just havent had players that were capable of stealing that many for a long time.

By woogidy

March 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

for those of you wanting P-tree tv HD on Comcast, tune to channel 802. it is there for you now! What a pleasant surprise. It just says To be announced, but it is on. Maybe, just maybe the Sportsouth games will be on here too.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Coach: Your comment

Cherokee , tell your theory to Rickey Henderson and you will get an education.

Is extremely flawed. Henderson was not only the best base stealer ever, he also had power and was a superior defensive player. Keeping a couple of kids on the bench because they can run does not equal having Rickey Henderson, the all-time leader in lead-off home runs and stolen bases, as your lead-off hitter. If Josh Anderson can pop 20 HR a year, by all means. But he can’t and won’t.

Pete Orr could have stolen 40 bases if we started him everyday at 3B. I don’t think anyone sane would have sat Chipper so Orr could run.

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Braves PR man Brad Hainje just told me he was just talking to Kelly Johnson, and he’s fine….it’s the last day of spring, couple more innings to go, everybody is going to be fine, folks.

By Gil in Mechanicsville

March 29, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

JimD I think the bottom line on Pena is he is a pretty athletic guy who can fill a verity of roles. He may not be an All Star but he is going to give you a pretty good return on your investment.

By JimD

March 29, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Pete H

I agree with you (3:45) EXCEPT that I don’t think Orr could have gotten on base 40 times to steal 40 bases!!!

But you are right, I would rather have Chipper.

By JimD

March 29, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Agreed, Gil. I’m glad he made the team and hope he sticks.

By AMG

March 29, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

woogidy -

Thanks for the information on HD for comcast channel 802. Why did I not know this before today?

By FJR

March 29, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Ricky was Ricky not because of his speed, but because he A) got on base and B) knew how to steal.

Ricky’s career OBP is .401. And if you take out his late years (when he was still better at getting on base than Josh Anderson) he would have been around .415.

Josh has blazing zpeed, but for god’s sake, didn’t we learn that somebody with speed who can’t get on base consistently is worthless with willie harris?

Josh may yet develop and get his OBP around .380-.400, but until he does that, he’s not all that valuable.

With Blanco, you have a guy who has good speed (not josh anderson speed), has some pop and knows how to draw a walk. That’s substantially more valuable.

By Saltywoody

March 29, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Forgive me for asking this, paritcularly because it’s been asked 900 times before…but I’ve never seen the answer.

What’s up with Anthony Lerew again? I saw CR said he’s on the 60-day DL. What’s his injury, prognosis, etc.?

By poorbrave

March 29, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

FJR=BS. Braves return home and lose first two at home. great!

By JimD

March 29, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Great comment just now from Joe Simpson …

Brayan Pena is the fastest catcher on the Braves! LOL.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Braves’ bats are on fire. Not. We might want to give all the bats some greenies to wake them up for tomorrow night.

By AMG

March 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

I believe Lerew had “Tommy John” surgery last summer. I would not look for him much this year.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Lerew had TJ surgery. Probably out most or all of the year.

By SandyB

March 29, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

I sure like what I’m seeing in the 7th. It would have been easy to give up in the rain….with a game that doesn’t really mean anything.’course a couple of errors helped a little too…. :-) I think our bench is looking pretty good.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Woah, the bats woke up! What happened?

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

haha, fastest catcher on the Braves. That’s a good one. Sorta like the least pregnant woman in the maternity ward.

By ippississiM

March 29, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Wow, I hope they bought the extended warranty on that Kobayashi—seems to be malfunctioning.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Direct TV? Oh well, guess that is a problem…

Good goin’, Lillibrdge (aka: Squeak)!! Wish he woulda made the team over Prado, but I guess he needs more “seasoning”.

Hey, Pena is pretty fast, uh…for a catcher.

By Steve McP

March 29, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Nice work by Bobby - Braves go ahead, get the game called and head for the plane.

By woogidy

March 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

AMG - They just put the channel in yesterday, I hope it replaces 755 from last year. ‘cause as of right now, as far as I know, they have no plans to broadcast the Sportsouth games in HD, just the FSN HD games. So is the game over or what?

By Metropolitan Man

March 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Great pick up on Gotay. Good hitter and should only get better if he had an everyday position. Other than having an average/below average defense, he has a bat and not bad with teamates (at least not reported). So with that, here are the last set of preseason predictions because the season is upon us.

Change comes with every season, but there’s no nickel-and-dime approach to the Chronicle’s look at the 2008 MLB campaign. Here’s the latest entry in six days of previews: the NL East.

New York Mets • ‘07 interest earned: 88-74 second). • Take it to the bank for ‘08: 102-60 (first). • Pulling the purse strings: Willie Randolph (268-218 in three seasons managing the Mets). • Primary assets:Pos. Player Avg. HR RBIs
SS Jose Reyes .280 12 57
2B Luis Castillo .301 1 38
3B David Wright .325 30 107
CF Carlos Beltran .276 33 112
LF Moises Alou .341 13 49
1B Carlos Delgado .258 24 87
LF Ryan Church .272 15 70
C Brian Schneider .235 6 54

• Starting portfolio: LHP Johan Santana (15-13, 3.33 ERA); RHP Pedro Martinez (3-1, 2.57); RHP Orlando Hernandez (9-5, 3.72); RHP John Maine (15-10, 3.91); LHP Oliver Perez (15-10, 3.56). • Closing the vault: LHP Billy Wagner (2.63 ERA, 34 saves).

• They’ll cash in if: There are many reasons. First, the rotation became one of the best in baseball with the addition of two-time Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana. If Pedro Martinez is healthy and John Maine and Oliver Perez match what they did a year ago, the Mets will be scary good. The lineup is as loaded as the rotation. Shortstop Jose Reyes, center fielder Carlos Beltran and third baseman David Wright are among the best in their game at their positions. Billy Wagner remains a top-tier closer. • They’ll go bankrupt if: Despite all their firepower, the Mets blew a seven-game lead with 17 games to play last year to miss the playoffs and likely will need to win the division if manager Willie Randolph is to keep his job. Brian Schneider is a good defensive catcher but isn’t a productive offensive player. Moises Alou and Carlos Delgado are on the wrong side of 35 and aren’t nearly the players they were five years ago.

Philadelphia Phillies • ‘07 interest earned: 89-73 (first)

• Take it to the bank for ‘08: 91-71 (second)

• Pulling the purse strings: Charlie Manuel (262-224 in three seasons managing the Phillies).

• Primary assets:Pos. Player Avg. HR RBIs
SS Jimmy Rollins .296 30 94
CF Shane Victorino .281 12 46
2B Chase Utley .332 22 103
1B Ryan Howard .268 47 136
LF Pat Burrell .256 30 97
RF Geoff Jenkins .255 21 64
3B Pedro Feliz .253 20 72
C Carlos Ruiz .259 6 54

• Starting portfolio: RHP Brett Myers (5-7, 4.33 ERA); LHP Cole Hamels (15-5, 3.39); RHP Kyle Kendrick (10-4, 3.87); LHP Jamie Moyer (14-12, 5.01); RHP Adam Eaton (10-10, 6.29). • Closing the vault: RHP Brad Lidge (3.36 ERA, 19 saves).

• They’ll cash in if: The Phillies prove they have the moxie to back up their impressive talent. Shortstop Jimmy Rollins has predicted Philadelphia will repeat as NL East champs, despite the firepower of the mighty Mets. With Rollins, the reigning league MVP, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Pat Burrell anchoring their lineup, the Phillies’ offense takes a backseat to no one. A healthy Cole Hamels and Brett Myers are a strong 1-2 punch in the rotation.

• They’ll go bankrupt if: Hamels, who has the stuff to be a bona fide ace, can’t stay healthy. He hasn’t proven he can do so yet. The rotation below those two spots isn’t nearly as dominating, but Kyle Kendrick and Jamie Moyer should win at least 10 games. The acquisition of Lidge had Philadelphia thinking it had solved its problems at closer, but he underwent knee surgery during spring training and may be slow out of the gate. Oh, and he also blew eight saves for the Astros in ‘07.

Atlanta Braves • ‘07 interest earned: 84-78 (third)

• Take it to the bank for ‘08: 85-77 (third)

• Pulling the purse strings: Bobby Cox (1,900-1,472 in 22 seasons managing the Braves).

• Primary assets:Pos. Player Avg. HR RBIs
2B Kelly Johnson .276 16 68
CF Mark Kotsay .214 1 20
3B Chipper Jones .337 29 102
1B Mark Teixeira .306 30 105
RF Jeff Francoeur .293 19 105
LF Matt Diaz .338 12 45
C Brian McCann .333 24 93
SS Yunel Escobar .326 5 28

• Starting portfolio: RHP John Smoltz (14-8, 3.11 ERA); RHP Tim Hudson (16-10, 3.33); LHP Tom Glavine (13-8, 4.45); LHP Mike Hampton (DNP); RHP Jair Jurrjens (3-1, 4.70). • Closing the vault: RHP Rafael Soriano (3.00 ERA, 9 saves).

• They’ll cash in if: They regain their old magic. After winning 14 consecutive division titles, the Braves haven’t made the playoffs in two years. Returning to the postseason this year will be tough in the NL East, but the Braves have the personnel to do it. Atlanta continued to tweak its roster last year. After acquiring Mark Teixeira during the season, the Braves got rid of mainstay Andruw Jones and brought back Tom Glavine to a talented and experienced rotation.

• They’ll go bankrupt if: Age becomes an issue. The starting rotation is a bit long in the tooth. Glavine, a 300-game winner, returns to Atlanta but isn’t as dominating as when he left. Mike Hampton can’t stay healthy, and John Smoltz is pitching with a 40-year-old arm. Atlanta may have a hard time holding leads in the bullpen. Former closer Bob Wickman was released late last year, and Mike Gonzalez, who saved 24 games for Pittsburgh in 2006, is trying to come back from Tommy John surgery.

You already know who is pulling up the rear so I’ll spare you. Anyway enjoy the season and Gotay. Next week you should be sick with METS envy after the METS sweep you.

By Chop Chop

March 29, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

The only way the Mets will win 102 games is if the rest of the NL folds.

By Pete H.

March 29, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Metroman: The Mets are going to show the world just how many people can be legally put on the DL this year.

And since you emptied your system, look out below. What’s the average age of the Mutts again, 73?

By Bob

March 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Metroman, Hmmmmmm lots of stuff coming from a fan of a team that just completed one of the greatest chokes in the history of American Sports. It will probably be 14 more years before the Mets win another Division title. You guys better have a 30 game lead by September or you might repeat last years swoon.

By Bubdylan

March 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Metman,

So, the Mets will win about 15% more games than the Braves on the year, but will sweep the Braves in the first weekend? That’s bad math. You guys have a good team, but I’m afraid you’re fans will be frustrated with the # of games good teams still lose. I mean, the best teams lose about a third of the time, right? But the (according to you) third place Braves can’t grab that one third at home during the first week? Again, balance your mind. You’ll enjoy the season better.

By Bubdylan

March 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I meant “your”, not “you’re”. :)

By Carroll Rogers

March 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

asked bobby about carrying three catchers and he said, “for a little while yeah.” so there you go….the bench will change as we go. always does.

meant to post this earlier and think i forgot to hit send (ADD anyone?) but I’m headed up to Richmond next week to cover the last home opener for the Richmond Braves. Any of you Richmond types gonna be there? Gil? Or have any thoughts/ideas on what things will feel like at the Diamond this year? Holler at me: crogers@ajc.com.

Meanwhile, Braves on are their way to Washington, and I’m on my way to the Cheyenne Grill to watch a little hoop. DOB will pick it up tomorrow, of course. One more day til the fun starts!!

By Efrim

March 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Gammons picks the Braves to get to the World Series….and lose to the Indians.

By Jared

March 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Because of Metropolitan Man’s attitude, I usually don’t respond to his perorations, but this time I’ll make an exception. Before examining the present situation, however, it is important that I restore the world back to its original balance. Metropolitan Man has allowed himself to become a spokesman for the same point of view shared by jaded hooligans, cantankerous liars and cheats, and the most merciless pantywaists you’ll ever see while masquerading as an outspoken radical bucking the system. Also let me say that his “I’m right and you’re wrong” attitude is doctrinaire because it leaves no room for compromise. Should we sit back and let Metropolitan Man do the devil’s work, or should we dole out acerbic criticism of Metropolitan Man and his phalanx of improvident, atrabilious spokesmen? That choice sure sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Although the moral absolutist position is well represented by social and political activists and really influences legislators and policy makers, Metropolitan Man has remarked that he has answers to everything. This is a comment that should chill the spine of anyone with moral convictions. To make sure you understand I’ll spell it out for you. First, he makes it sound like he’s some perfect angel of unstained ethical standards. Second, he doubtlessly gives me the heebie-jeebies. And third, I have never read anything he has written that I would consider wise, logical, pertinent, reasonable, or scientific. Metropolitan Man’s statement that he can override nature is no exception. What’s more, every so often you’ll see him lament, flog himself, cry mea culpa for forcing me to sink into a miasma of doubt and alienation, and vow never again to be so birdbrained. Sadly, he always reverts to his old behavior immediately afterwards, making me think that I act based on what I think is right, not who I think is right. That’s why I try always to burn away social illness, exploitation, and human suffering. It’s also why I say that Metropolitan Man says that I’m too myopic to rub his nose in his own hypocrisy. That’s a stupid thing to say. It’s like saying that mandarinism and ageism are identical concepts. To end on a more positive note: Metropolitan Man’s pranks have gotten way out of hand.

By KC

March 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

METROMAN: Dear God PLEASE tell me you’re willing to wager on your predictions. If so… COUNT ME IN!!!!!

Seriously!!!!

Tell ya what… you decide what’s on the line, and I’ll make the following bet:

If the Mets finish 10 games ahead of the Braves OR if the Braves don’t win at least 90 games this year… you win the bet.

Seriously, I will put up just about anything for this wager. Email me at embassypro@hotmail.com and we’ll make it official.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Metroman, you do realize your beloved Mets tried in vain to trade Orlando Hernandez during the entire off season.

I know the reason why and you will find out shortly.

Mike Pelfrey has been a certifiable disaster so far. 5-9 5.55 ERA

Jorge Sosa? the jokes on you.

The Mets have four pitchers and a prayer. No reliable depth to be found within the entire organization and of course the problem of being mentally able to overcome their historic collapse (MONUMENTAL CHOKE)just six months ago.

Good luck Metroman, your team is gonna need it.

By uga-brave

March 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

well glad to see that francouer had a great spring.

one dinger to go with a .240 average.

our starting outfield hit ONE homerun all spring.

at some point francoeur has to become the player that the local media has made him. i just dont see it. i think he will always be a GOOD player but never a star.

too many flaws in his approach and his swing.

i am pulling for you frenchy, time to take those training wheels off.

no more excuses you are four years in, put it all together.

.770 ops does not get it for the supposed star that you are.

i know that i am in the minority on this opinion, but i think his production is the key to to our success.

By drd99

March 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Metro homo,Dude just go Bacjk to Flushing in the Queens,and Choke on your CHOKING JOKE MUTTS!!!!!111

By Lew

March 29, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

DAP-I never said Bobby Cox was the reason Furcal never stole 70. What I said was that his teams do not steal as often as many other managers would have them running, with the speed he has had at his disposal. Furcal could have stolen 70 if he had an appropriate running coach.

As for Nixon-Dude, that was almost 15 years ago and BC has had players that fast in the lineup since then. Then again, the Braves do tend to hit a lot of HR and that could account for it. Not anyone left on to steal. Besides, like I said, it’s a moot point. No one on the team will steal even 20bases and Anderson wouldn’t have gotten the playing time to steal 20.

By TJ

March 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

If the Muts stay healthy - and I mean really healthy - with Alou playing 140 games, Delgado playing up to his old standards, Beltran playing every day, Pedro pitching 200 innings, and of course Santana not getting hurt - if all that happens, I think they’re gonna be hard to beat. I admit that Santana, Pedro, Perez and Maine comprise a great starting 4, and I’m sure they’ll find someone who can keep them competitive in the 5 spot.

All that said, I just think it’s very unlikley. Alou and Delgado are pretty much over the hill. Pedro - I’d say the likelihood of him staying health is about as good as Hampton’s. But the Braves have a lot more resources to cover for injuries. The Muts have no bench, and no pitching in reserve.

If the season was 25 games, I’d probably have to pick the Muts. But it’s not, it’s 162, and so I’ll take the Braves. (and the Phillies pitching is really likely to be a disaster, and I don’t think their fine offense will be able to overcome it.)

So, Braves, 91 wins; Mets, 88 wins; Phillies, 84 wins.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

uga-brave, I’m in that minority with ya.

Seriously? One dinger? Dude, I was just getting ready to re-look at our final Spring stats…I do know that our team leaders had only two…

I thought that, ahem, “extra bulk” was going to give him power.

Maybe he’ll be like Tex, no?

By McFann

March 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

I meant more power. Francoeur has power, but I thought the extra muscle would give him more power.

I was in a hurry to get to our pizza dinner at the time, sorry.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

mcfann, um, I wouldn’t go around casting stones based on spring stats, heap didn’t exactly light it up either, and hit 0 homeruns. Do I think that means Heap has some sort of flawed swing? obviously not.

Dude, its spring training, quit being ridiculous.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

ha, checked again, and I guess I looked at mckenry’s stats instead of mccann’s.

Regardless, how many srping homers somebody hits means almost nothing. Ianetta hit 4 homers for colorado this spring, do you want to trade McCann for him?

By FJR

March 29, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

while we’re on the subject…

One thing I’ve never understood. Jeff Francouer gets lambasted for his lack of walks (I think rightly, he doesn’t walk nearly enough). However, McCann’s walk rate is nearly identical, and Francouer actually walked more last year than McCann. People lambast Francouer for his low OBP (and I think rightly, he needs ot raise it) but McCann’s was lower last year. It seems kind of like McCann gets a free pass. Granted he’s a catcher, but he’s an offensive catcher. It would be one thing if he shut down the running game, but he’s not very good there either

I’m not saying this to bring down McCann, I like the kid a lot and I think he has a bright future, but it just doesn’t seem like McCann and Francouer are compared equally. If you want to say that McCann is a better hitter for a catcher than Francoeur is for an outfielder, fine, but that’s not the argument that people around here make. They say McCann is a better hitter period, and I just dont see it.

They both had hot second halves, mccann’s being two years ago and jeff’s being three and have both played like second and third year players since then.

By Steve McP

March 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

I was just looking at Metroman’s analysis and the one stat that I thought was interesting was that Bobby Cox has 1,900 wins as Brave’s manager - be nice if it got to a round 2,000 just before the play-offs begin.

By Metropolitan Man

March 29, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

KC, you are definately on and I will email you. To the rest of bravesland and Jared, you will see the METS run away and run away early no matter how bad MY math might be. Will they hold on until the end after the 07’ finish? This METS fan is betting yeah. I dont know why the hostility, relax. Opening day is upon us and that early glimpse at the Division winner METS will be here next weekend. Funny thing is may good seats are still left, what kind of support is that? Sweep at the Ted opening weekend, yes I can see it now.

LETS GO METS!

By TJ

March 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

FJR, I agree. The biggest pass McCann gets is that he’s a catcher (and he tends to get beat to death), and you don’t expect the same offensive production out of a catcher that you do from a RF. But it’s a valid point, IMO.

I don’t really care if Jeff hits 18 homers or 30. He’s hitting behind a couple of .400 OBP guys, who will probably be on 2nd or 3rd base pretty often.

I’d like to see him hit .300, and increase the walks a little (as he’s said is his goal), and cut down on the strikeouts a little too. If he does that, he’ll drive in 115 runs and score another 90 or so. Add in a rifle arm in right, and what more do people want?

He’s still only 24 years old! The power will come, but I hope he doesn’t think about that part too much.

By uga-brave

March 29, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

FJR,

at some point francoeur has to hit like a power corner outfielder.

if you get .280, 20, and 90 from a catcher, you are ahead of the curve.

dont forget when talking about frenchy’s #’S he had close to 700 plate apperances last year.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

FJR—

I don’t think Francoeur has a “flawed swing” necessarily, and I know ST homers don’t mean anything. I was just agreeing with uga-brave. He’s the one that brought it up—talk to him.

McCann hit .277 this Spring, and if this were the real season, I’d say that’s not very good (though I’d take it if he threw out 30% of any base runners). But it’s Spring Training, like everybody’s said. A player with a roster spot cann hit .400, or he cann hit .200—it really doesn’t matter.

I wouldn’t trade McCann for anybody. As a matter of fact, I don’t think I’d rush out and trade Francoeur, either.

Jeff needs to step up this year. He needs to hit .285+ with around 30 homers, and 112 or more RBI. If he’s anything of what the local media makes him out to be, he cann do it. And if he does, I promise you, I will cool my tongue.

I’m sorry that it hasn’t been at all clear, but I’ve tried to make that argument that McCann is a better hitter for a catcher than Francoeur is for an outfielder.

I was not pleased with the SO/BB ratio of McCann in ‘07, either. I cann understand how you feel in that regard. But I think that the reason people talk about it so much with Francoeur is because that first year he walked only 23 times in nearly 700 PA (696, to be exact). With so many plate appearances, people expect more walks, and Francoeur really improved on that in ‘07—he almost doubled what he did in 2006!

Suffice it to say, they’re both good hitters, they’re both going to get better, and WE HAVE ONLY 24 HOURS TILL WE’LL SEE THEM AGAIN!!!!!

By Stuart

March 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

For those in the chattanooga area, the peachtree tv games will be on CSS if you have comcast. It is SDTV, but at least we wont have to miss them.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

TJ—

I’m with you all the way on your 7:50.

And that goes for uga-brave and his 7:51, too.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Most who didn’t get to watch the game today missed one very important piece of information from Joe Simpson.

Mike Hampton’s velocity is up. By how much, I don’t know.

Like more than a few pitchers, Hampton is throwing harder after T.J. surgery.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Most who didn’t get to watch the game today missed one very important piece of information from Joe Simpson.

Mike Hampton’s velocity is up. By how much, I don’t know.

Like more than a few pitchers, Hampton is throwing harder after T.J. surgery.

By JimD

March 29, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

There used to be a stat floated around for hitters called Runs Produced. RP was runs scored + RBI - HR (otherwise they would be counted twice, once as a run scored and then as an RBI). Here is a little RP comparison for Francoeur:

Frenchy= 170 RP

Other Braves: A Jones = 161 C Jones = 181 Tex = 161 McCann = 125

Other NL RF:

S Green (NYM) = 98 Victorino (Phi)= 112 C Hart (Mil) = 143 Griffey (Cin) = 141 Hawpe (Col) = 167

Just something to think about. Since the object of the offensive side of the game is to score runs, I would think the best way to measure a players impact on his team’s offense is to see how much he contributed to scoring runs.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

mcfann, he had 105 RBIs last year and hit .293. So if he hits 11 more homers and drops his BA by 8 points, he’s a dramatically different player than last year?

Jeff had 40 doubles last year, so I don’t worry about his power, it will be there. What Jeff needs to really do to get to the next level is cut his Ks down to the 85-100 range and get his walks up to the 60s or 70s. If he does that, everything else will take care of itself. I’d like it if he got his Ks and walks to about equal, but that kind of talent (like chipper jones) is really rare, so I’m not going to be overly optomistic.

MCann needs to walk more. If he gets one strike on him, its like he’s scared of striking out and will just foul pitches off, even ones that are obvious balls. McCann might actually be one of the few young hitters who could benefit from more strikeouts, as right now it looks like he’s hitting a lot of bad pitches into easy outs. If he took a few more pitches, he’d possibly get to either walk more or see better pitches to hit.

Anyway, I don’t mean to badmouth either one, I think they’re both ahead of the game for third year players.

By Mike S

March 29, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

Not sure if anyone’s mentioned this already, but one nice benefit of having 3 catchers is that McCann will now be able to pinch hit more often when he’s not starting. Talk about a nice bat to have off the bench…

By McFann

March 29, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

FJR—

For Francoeur, I think I was calling for a combination of his first two full seasons. Oh yeah, and way less K’s, and a lot more walks.

McCann could benefit from more strike outs? Hmmmm……But I know what you mean about getting one strike. It’s extremely obvious that he hates to strike out. No question that he needs to take more pitches. The foul balls and the ground outs drive me bonkers!

Good point, Mike S!

That does it for me, folks!

Night, all!!

By Shamus Thacker

March 29, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

It’s looking more and more like I’m gonna have to walk on my hands, drunk and nekkid, all the way frum Cedartown to Atlanter, Jawjer. Hammy has amazed and astounded, he’s pitching like a yung’un.

Bobby will manage until he’s at least 95. Smoltz will throw knucklers [with the Bravos] till he’s 60. I’ll bet Tommy could throw a helluva knuckler too if he tried. I can throw a hell of a knuckler with a whiffle ball. Maybe I’ll try out with the Braves. My beer belly is no bigger than that fat knuckleballer’s who used to pitch for the Shicargo White Soxs.

By McFann

March 29, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah: Int’resting stat, JimD!

By Shamus Thacker

March 29, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

If all the home-run-distance fly ball fouls hit by Ron Gant had been ruled homers, he’d have ended a ten-year career with around 1,631 dingers…

By Gil in Mechanicsville

March 29, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

Those long foul balls are not always mistake pitches. You will notice that following one of those vicious shots that hook behind the pole, the batter will record an out.

By Gil in Mechanicsville

March 29, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

Carroll, the wife and I will be there. We sit behind the home dugout.

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

Hello to Gil,Lew,Wayne in Utah,Good to see Old Friends here,you guys Know me well,and soon I will reveal who I am after an Imposter stops Using my name.. Until then Geaux Braves,and D.O.B you are still #1….

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Lew how’s the toes?????I Hope the Wife is well,as for Myself,I and The Kiddies are doing well!!

By David O'Brien

March 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

Evening to all from our hotel in D.C., a few blocks from the White House. Chilly up here, folks walking around in coats with temps in low 50s today and dropping to 30s tonight. Gonna be about same tomorrow, but only dropping into 40s tomorrow night.

Hey, long as it’s not raining, no problem. And There’s only a 20-percent chance for rain. So it’s all good. It was sunny this afternoon here, and the cherry blossoms are blooming along the river. Nice view on cab ride from airport.

And just for the record, I’ll predict Pena is traded soon. Perhaps very soon….

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

Damn Good to see My Favorite Team,and My favorite time of Year,come around FINALLY,Now it appears that Hampton has broken out the Shoe leaather and is about to lay Boot,to some Mutts arses,Shame about Smoltz shoulder Barkin just a little,I think he’ll be fine,and we should see 4 pitchers with at least 14 to 15 wins this season!!!!!

And no I have’nt forgotten you Philthie Fans Either,in the words of Jimmy Rollins,Watch out for the Braves…They are Still KING!!!

By richbrave

March 29, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

With Gotay on board something has to give. Between the former Met and Pena I vote for the Cuban friend of Escobar staying. And what a surprise, Thorman is an R-Brave. Lucky us.

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

Nice show on Buck and Kincaid the other day d.O.B. enjoyed that one!!! And I agree if Frenchy comes out to Gary Alan:OUCH,You really need to Talk to Him…Nothing against Gary but that is Bedtime Music if you know what I mean(wink,wink)!!!!!!

By Jordan

March 29, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

DOB…Where do you think Pena is going and for what???

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

Methinks Iron Man, is more suitable for Frenchy!!

By richbrave

March 29, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

METROPOLITAN MAN:

Yours of 7:44 p.m. Some people have good taste, some have poor taste, and some people’s taste is in their mouth. Still thinking yours is good, huh?!!

By FJR

March 29, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Random music question.

In your list of top 30 albums of all-time (or as best as you can guess to answer these questions):

1) What is the least conventional (ie what you would think would make the fewest of these types of lists by most people)

2) what is the most conventional (see above)

3) Your Favorite album ever?

4) Favorite Live album?

5) Which album out of these have you played the most?

6) The Least?

7) which album would be the first to recommend to someone, knowing nothing about their musical tastes?

my answers:

1) Paris In The Morning - Joe Purdy

2) Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

3) Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs - Derek and the Dominos

4) Allman Brothers Band: Live at the Fillmore East

5) (What’s the Story) Morning Glory? - Oasis

6) Satellite Rides - The Old 97s

By BravesFanChris23

March 29, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be kind of funny if Pena is traded to the Nationals tomorrow and all he has to do is go to the Nationals locker room and whoever Braves’ get comes to Braves’ locker room.

However, I don’t think that’s possible, not ruling it out, just I don’t see it.

I do wonder who Braves’ would get for Pena, especially if a bat is gotten for the bench.

By David O'Brien

March 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Helluva game, this Louisville-Carolina tilt in Chapel Hill … er, Charlotte.

By Deep Throat

March 29, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

Will the AJC now confirm or deny the rumors of blue alternate road uniforms that may or may not be worn in tomorrow’s Braves v. Nationals game on ESPN?

By BravesFanChris23

March 29, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be kind of funny if Pena is traded to the Nationals tomorrow and all he has to do is go to the Nationals locker room and whoever Braves’ get comes to Braves’ locker room.

However, I don’t think that’s possible, not ruling it out, just I don’t see it.

I do wonder who Braves’ would get for Pena, especially if a bat is gotten for the bench.

By drd99

March 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this

Hatteberg,or Inge???? Which is it???

By JimD

March 29, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

Pena for Dmitiri Young? Maybe?

By uga-brave

March 29, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

what up DOB,

got up today and played 36. beat the rain.

buddy of mine lives at sugarloaf, played it several times, it aint all that.

for my money settin down and atlanta national are better courses.

well hawks ridge is the best.

either way my point about francoeur is all about PLATE APPEARANCES.

the numbers are good because of the amount of plate appearances.

By BravesFanChris23

March 29, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the double post, internet burped on me.

It would be very interesting if Braves trade Pena for Aaron Boone and all they have to do is switch locker rooms.

I don’t know the likeliness of it, but with what DOB said and his record of hunches (i.e. Yates), it wouldn’t be surprising.

By 18 Wheels of Love

March 29, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

I;m gonna guess to SF or some kind of deal for a Thmames or Ensberg.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

oops, I meant for #6 to be James Brown: Live at the appolo and for 7 to be satellite rides

By richbrave

March 29, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Dmitri Young plus a pick to Atlanta: Brayan Pena to the Nationals.

By DAP

March 29, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

uga-brave javy had two homeruns. he’s twice the hitter frency is, hunh?

but i agree with you, much of our sucess willd epend on how frenchy does. i think hes up for it, since hes shown steady improvement since hes been up, and hes proven that he is clutch, which means he alwasy has it if he can harness it.

always remember that 2007 should have been his rookie year. those stats from a rookie are phenominal. either way, you cant dent his steady improvement, so i think he will have a solid year.

By Andy K

March 29, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

DOB You’ve got that “Somethings going on but I’m not supposed to tell you guys yet.” feeling going on in the first post from D.C.

By Yars

March 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

We have an influx of infielders we don’t need aaron ucking boone. DOB good to hear from you man I still can’t believe tomorrow is opening day it’s going to be one helluva season. now playing: *float on by modest mouse.

By Andy K

March 29, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

The Pena to the Nationals idea isn’t really plausible. They already have LoDuca, Estrada, and then Flores a call away. Plus, they have Young and Johnson. there’s no way the Braves trade for Johnson, and they’ll probably ask for something hefty for young, and then that leaves Boone, who probably won’t be leaving consider his Dad is Special Assistant to Bowden, and his older brother is conditioning for another go at the majors.

By FJR

March 29, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

Is float on from before or after Johnny Marr joined modest mouse?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 29, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

O’Brien is correct, no way will Cox keep three catchers for any length of time.

the question is, will Atlanta be able to find what they are looking for in return.

Kansas hasn’t been beaten yet? Man , where is the competition.

By ippississiM

March 29, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

FJR: you forgot to answer question number 7, and it’s your own poll!

Mine are as follows:

In your list of top 30 albums of all-time (or as best as you can guess to answer these questions):

*1) What is the least conventional (ie what you would think would make the fewest of these types of lists by most people) * Braden Land - Dirt

2) what is the most conventional (see above) Led Zeppelin - II

3) Your Favorite album ever? Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman

4) Favorite Live album? Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive

5) Which album out of these have you played the most? Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape

6) The Least? Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - Dirt, Silver and Gold

7) which album would be the first to recommend to someone, knowing nothing about their musical tastes? Beatles - Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

By Shamus Thacker

March 29, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Gonna be tough for the Nationals, opening the new stadium with a loss…

By KC

March 29, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

MetroMan: That sounds great! Email me and lets get it going!

By drd99

March 29, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

Now,I know You are’nt calling me out You Mutt loving SLUG!!! How bout I break out the old me and lay some boot to your Trailer Park Arse???????

By FJR

March 30, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

ississippiM,

Your answer to #7 brought back a memory of what some of my music-snobby friends used to say. You’d recommend some new band that you thought was somewhat obscure and they would say “Jesus, why don’t you just recommend the Beatles too, while you’re at it.”

By ippississiM

March 30, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

At least the game tomorrow will give us a half-game head start in the standings.

By FJR

March 30, 2008 12:04 AM | Link to this

ississippiM,

I also remembered you saying something about taking a look into the new raconteur’s album. I reviewed it here:

consolers of the lonely review

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 30, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

The Braves are probably trying to add another position player at 1B.

Also, they already have twelve pitchers on the roster. When Smoltz comes off the D.L. somebody will have to go.

It’s highly unlikely that the Braves will want to lose another arm this early by trading another pitcher.

Common sense says that Bennett should be sent to Richmond even though he deserves to stay in Atlanta. The Braves have one or two more tough decisions to make.

By Ben

March 30, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

DOB, Do the Braves players tend to frequent any particular bars in the DC area when they’re here? That is of course that you’re up on such information and willing to share it. I’ve heard about Smoltzie and Chip in the past going to some places in Pentagon City, but I’m not sure if it’s true. Care to share? Thanks man, and here’s hoping for a bittersweet opening of Nationals Park tomorrow for the home crowd!

By wondering

March 30, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this

Dmitri Young plus a pick to Atlanta: Brayan Pena to the Nationals.

A “pick”? You mean a draft pick? I don’t think you can trade draft picks in MLB.

By Bubdylan

March 30, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

Dmitri Young and a Guitar Pick to Atlanta. Bryan Pena’s rookie baseball card to the Nats.

By ippississiM

March 30, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

FJR: The Beatles recommendation was tongue-in-cheek—really, I’d recommend (and have recommended, on here recently) Braden Land’s Dirt, because it’s too good for this world. Thing about it is, I remember when he was in junior high, and thinking, this kid can’t play without embarrassing himself right now, but he’s so determined—he’s going to do this if it kills him. “Dirt” is outstanding for a rookie. I look for him to go much, much further before all is said and done.

By ippississiM

March 30, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

Bubdylan: Giving up a rookie card to get Dmisnomer Young? What, you think Frank Wren is made of baseball cards, to be throwing them away like that?

Dmitri Young is on a $10 million, 2-year deal with Washington. I wouldn’t touch that with a 37 1/2 foot pole. With his age, health, and past off-field issues, it’s just crazy to expect him to be worth his contract at this point. I mean, last year was a great comeback story with going from being cut, being diagnosed with diabetes, and all that, to being an All-Star (albeit a lone-representative type All-Star similar to a certain basement dwelling pitcher we all know and loathe) and a top-ten batting title finish. That doesn’t erase the fact that he weighs 300 pounds and is an ambulance ride waiting to happen. The Nats got hosed on that contract, and I seriously doubt they will ever find anyone willing to lighten their load.

By uga-brave

March 30, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

DAP,

you are right , frenchy is the key.

but his .ops has gotta improve.

By Wayne in Utah

March 30, 2008 1:14 AM | Link to this

There will be no “Night before Opening Day” poems this year. My body is beat from a list of honey doos as long as your arm, and I am mentally exhausted.

We could say I am protesting the lack of a single African American on the Braves roster this year. Only American Americans, and Latin Americans.

I was hoping Josh Anderson was a black man, but alas, it was not to be. Besides, he got beat out by a South American American.

Dying at the keyboard, so good night, and good luck tomorrow, my beloved Braves!!! I’ll be watching on TV. I have the Extra Sensory Perception Network!!

By Wayne in Utah

March 30, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this

Mets Fans Don’t you guys have your own blog?? Or are you just plain STOOPID!

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 1:33 AM | Link to this

No opening day poetry…. smells like a cop-out Wayne.

Although, it might just be my jealousy of your Jazz.

Haiku? Only three lines.

And:

Met fan = normal

Met fan who posts on an Atlanta blog = STOOPID

By Chop Chop

March 30, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this

“By Andy K

March 29, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

The Pena to the Nationals idea isn’t really plausible…there’s no way the Braves trade for Johnson, and they’ll probably ask for something hefty for young…”

Yeah. The Nats would have to ask for something hefty for D’Meathook. Otherwise, they’d have to take on extra weight to balance the team charter.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 1:37 AM | Link to this

1) What is the least conventional (ie what you would think would make the fewest of these types of lists by most people)

Eno — Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy

2) what is the most conventional (see above)

The Stooges — Funhouse

3) Your Favorite album ever?

The Stooges — Funhouse

4) Favorite Live album?

Dream Syndicate — Live

5) Which album out of these have you played the most?

John Cale — Paris 1919

6) The Least?

The Fall — The Real New Fall Album

By ippississiM

March 30, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this

I’m totally wiped, so I’m going to save my roster recap for tomorrow before the game, and my position-by-position comparisons will probably have to be spread out over the next week or three. I just can’t make the stats stop crawling around on the screen due to the combined effects of dyslexia, eye strain and insomnia.

I’m out of gas. Got nothing left. That’s all, folks.

By uga-brave

March 30, 2008 1:45 AM | Link to this

actually

its a rolex explorer.

for all you guys that, it is gret watch.

By nolie

March 30, 2008 1:53 AM | Link to this

Just something to think about. Since the object of the offensive side of the game is to score runs, I would think the best way to measure a players impact on his team’s offense is to see how much he contributed to scoring runsJimD

yeah I remember getting excited about that in the early 60s or so. It was one of the first attempts that I remember towards thinking out of the HR/RBI/BA thought process. I still check it out a little on my faves but like RBI alone it is somewhat flawed. RS and RBI are just too dependent on the rest of the lineup and where a player hits in it. Was Barry a worse hitter when he led off cause he didn’t get 100RBI? Of course not, just trying to illustrate what I mean. After almost 60 years of thinking about it and some time working in it after college I think OPS is the best measure of a hitter that I’ve come across. OBP for the ability to get on and continue rallies and S% to measure the ability to drive in runs regularly. Theoretically you could plug in hitters of like OPS into a slot in any lineup and get about the same results. Realistically it isn’t quite that smooth for a number of reasons but hey even Bill James is coming around to believing in ‘clutch’. However because those two stats are less influenced by outside considerations like lineup etc I believe in them pretty strongly. I know that y’all are aware of all this but I just felt the need to exercise my fingers. mea culpa ;-)

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 1:53 AM | Link to this

what a crock….crusading everyman….what kind of crusader gets a day off a month, with a great pinchhitter, no less?

What if I have an options question? Can Chipper be sent down without waivers? Does Soriano’s elbow hurt when he reaches for his chew? What color are the new alternate unis…is it a powder blue or a navy?

I need answers. I’m paying hard-earned free money here…I expect more.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 1:56 AM | Link to this

Oops, I forgot the last question, record I would recommend. John Cale — Paris 1919. Totally irresistible.

Why do stoopit Mutt fans keep coming on here claiming their team is anything but old, tired chokers? I admit getting Santana was big, but when your team is featured in one of those HoverRound commercials, you gotta think twice.

Assuming you can think once.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 2:04 AM | Link to this

BayAreaSteve has a point. A day off every month? I bet DOB just laid around, luxuriating in doing his laundry and trying to remember where the bathroom in his house is.

It’s 1 a.m. CDT, and I need to know who the Braves will get for Pena. Does DOB care? Nah, he probably does stuff like sleep and eat instead of replying to my question for the 20th time.

What a piker.

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 2:10 AM | Link to this

UGA…whatya drinkin’ sir?

By Roman Gal

March 30, 2008 2:22 AM | Link to this

I’m sure most here have already listened to this, but here is a NL preview. Good Stuff

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 2:27 AM | Link to this

Rotoworld is saying the Giants are close to a deal for a backup catcher who can hit. Sounds like Pena, but who would they have that we would want? No one I can think of. Apart from Cain or Lincecum, that is.

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 2:44 AM | Link to this

Thanks for playin’ along Pete.

I’m still not convinced B.Pena is gone. I’ve seen DOB’s and B.Cox’s comments, and I fully realize that I’m probably wrong, but I think Pena has real value on this squad, if a third catcher also stays.

Corky never pinch hits, B.Mac does, B.Pena can hit in the sixth inning with a man on second….these things make me think Pena has value.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 2:47 AM | Link to this

Last?

By mjk

March 30, 2008 2:56 AM | Link to this

I agree the Mets have some old players and some serious question marks, but how are Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, and Jones given free passes for this year? Obviously, Jones and Smoltz have been great when they’ve been out there and it could continue all season, but come on…they’re getting to the stage when anything could happen. And Glavine….we all saw what Glavine did last year. Hampton looks great but who really knows. The Braves could be great, but lets keep things in perspective here….what are the odds that all of these guys put up big numbers all season? As much as all of us rip the Mets for being old and fragile, the same could be reasonably said of the Braves. I don’t see either as a runaway favorite unless one of them gets an unusually long stretch of good health this season. As for the Phillies….they just don’t have the pitching to hang with either….they’re a third place team after their one year stint in first - back to their rightful place in third.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 2:57 AM | Link to this

Oh, I agree. I really like Pena. He does a lot of good things. But I think the Braves want a bopper who can play first. Me, I like seeing Pena come up with runners on late in a game. He’s a pure hitter, and he doesn’t get overpowered by anyone.

Like everyone, though, I would like a long ball threat on the bench. I don’t see anyone on SF that even vaguely matches that description.

I like Corky but I think we can stagger through a game a week with mediocre catching to keep Pena’s bat and ability to stay in the game at several positions. He’s a perfect double switch guy.

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 2:58 AM | Link to this

not even close Pete.

639th?

Is this not the most ridiculous thing for grown-folks to do?

….st

By cherokee

March 30, 2008 3:23 AM | Link to this

Like everyone, though, I would like a long ball threat on the bench. I don’t see anyone on SF that even vaguely matches that description.PeteH

not everybody. I “could care” less if they have one. Anybody who can bomb and do anything else at all is likely starting somewhere else. I’m pretty happy with it even though it is definitely a no name bench at this point. Go Braves.

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 3:37 AM | Link to this

Good call, cherokee.

Where are these players who have “scary” power off the bench, but don’t have a job elsewhere?

The closest I can hope for is Borchard, who I realize has been terrible, but seems primed for a Willie Harris type six-week run. ‘tis probably best he go to Richmond, lest Bobby start him three months too late.

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 4:57 AM | Link to this

Wake the hell up, blogmeister.

You got in early last night.

What color socks did JJJ have on the plane? Was Roger McD lighting anyone’s shoes on fire? Did you nearly die on your run this morning?

By Moby Grape

March 30, 2008 4:59 AM | Link to this

LAST ??

By BayAreaSteve

March 30, 2008 5:15 AM | Link to this

Moby, no, and you’re better than that; I’ve seen your posts.

By Braveheart

March 30, 2008 6:55 AM | Link to this

ugabrave Frenchy is still 24 years old. Roberto Clemente didn’t do much until he was 25. Paul Oneill was average until he was 30. Dave Winfield did not completely become a superstar until he was 25. Dale Murphy finally had a real good season when he was 24. Then Murphy stunk when he was 25. It took Murphy until he was 26 to become the full fledged superstar we all remember. It took Ron Gant until he was 25.

So, sorry, man, I don’t really get all the urgency to have him step up now. He’s not too much of a key this season either. Chipper and Tex and the pitchers are the key. If Chipper stays healthy and Tex is a beast, all the Braves will need is for KJ, YUnel, McCann, Frenchy, and Diaz to do what they always do. If they do more, then great. A big reason why the Braves traded for Tex last season is to shelter McCann and Frenchy from shouldering the burden of being the key to a season before they are 25 years old.

Frenchy was a real raw talent. He was rushed to the majors. As DAP said, 2007 should have been his rookie season. He was able to survive and somewhat thrive in the majors despite being unpolished based almost upon his athletic talents alone. The kid has shown a remarkable willingness to listen to his coaches and to try new approaches. It took alot of courage for Frenchy to sacrifice his calling card (his homers) by hitting 10 less just so that he could experiment with becoming a more complete hitter. The kid has faced alot of hype but also alot of critical backlash too. He has always remained positive and kept believing in himself. Alot of young kids would have given up. The kid also has unbelievable expectations for himself with the goals he sets and works hard to try to achieve them.

It’s coming together for Frenchy. I really don’t understand your lack of patience with him.

By Braveheart

March 30, 2008 7:15 AM | Link to this

MAGIC NUMBER IS 163!

By Braveheart

March 30, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this

From Mike Lupica’s column today:

Only in the modern culture of sports - one that sometimes makes you think the silly season is every season - could we possibly still be discussing whether or not Tom Glavine should have used the word “devastated” to describe his feelings about the last game he pitched for the Mets.

By Yars

March 30, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

FJR…..Johnny Marr joined Modest Mouse in ‘06. The track Float On came out in ‘04. Modest Mouse will be touring with REM later this year for a handful of shows. 1st game of the regular season tonight! Man am I stoked.

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

MJK, your 2:56am post is right on. I made the same point a few hours earlier but got into is with drd99 so the blog police deleted all my post’s. As usual a brave fans can write anything but a Mets fan can’t. The braves have health and injury issues but all brave fans can see or hope is that it only affect the Mets. But the facts are that Smoltz will be 41 and Glavine 42. Hampton hasn’t played in over two years due to injuries. Chipper will be lucky to play 120 games and your closer has already shown the signs of elbow problems. I think the brave fans have as many concerns as the Mets.

By JC from UT

March 30, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Who would have to added with Pena to get Scott Hatteberg from the Reds?

By ssiscribe

March 30, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Top of the morning, denizens, and welcome to Sunday, March 30, 2008, opening night for the Atlanta Braves and the first step on the journey to October.

Finally, at long and blessed last, baseball season has arrived again. Play ball, and amen.

The Scribe abides.

—30—

By KC

March 30, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

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OPENING NIGHT VIEWING PARTY TONIGHT:

8pm

At Frankie’s In the Prado - near the junction of GA-400 and Hwy-285.

MAP

If you’d like to come, email me at embassypro@hotmail.com, and we’ll save you seat.

By Spazz

March 30, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

JC from UT - With Hatteberg only having a career BA of .177 as a pinch hitter, and only being able to Catch or play 1B, this doesn’t sound to be a very likely move. With what Hatteberg brings, I would rather have Pena’s age and versatility on a straight up trade, much less adding additional players.

By JC from UT

March 30, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

I did not realize Hatteberg had such a poor BA as a pinch hitter. My bad.

By David-ATL14

March 30, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

I think all the blog denizens and the Crusading Everyman himself will be interested to know that the immortal one, Greg Norton failed to make the final cut with the Mariners.

Guess they join a long line of teams also that have failed to notice his brilliance. LOL

By flange1

March 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Morning All,

Looking around on line and found an interesting Ken Rosenthal article:

“The Tigers, Reds and Orioles were thwarted in attempts to trade for Braves catcher Brayan Pena, a switch-hitter who continues to improve both offensively and defensively. Even after trading Jarrod Saltalamacchia last season, the Braves are deeper at catcher than most clubs. Pena, 26, will back up Brian McCann along with veteran Corky Miller, and could be emerge as an effective hitter off the bench. The Braves also believe that Class AAA catcher Clint Sammons, 24, will develop into an everyday player, though his hitting remains in question …

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

KC, if folks miss that viewing party, it certainly won’t be for lack of notice.

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

It’s coming together for Frenchy. I really don’t understand your lack of patience with him.Braveheart

Been pretty obvious for six months or so, that our usually reasonable uga-brave simply has a dislike of the homegrown Golden Boy’s appeal. So why bother tryng to understand his consistent overanalyzing of a kid who’s won a Gold Glove and driven in more than 100 runs in each of his two full seasons in the major?

By Lew

March 30, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Snipper-Gee, too bad they didn’t like you. I wonder why?

No, the Braves DON’T have the injury concerns the Mets do. Y’all have three players you should be able to count on-Santana, Reyes and Wright. The rest of your roster is iffy at best. Alou will already miss all of April and many think part of May-that’s got to be 25-30 games right there-and that just STARTS his season. Del Gado has already sustained TWO injuries this spring. Castillo and Beltran are coming off of winter knee surgeries. El Duque is as brittle as glass. You have zero back up if Pedro and El Duque get hurt-and they will, if history is any indicator.

Chipper, even if he DOES play 120 games will put up the numbers that Wright puts up in 160 games-he’s done it the last couple of seasons, despite ten years in age over your Golden Boy. He still puts up better numbers than ANY other player you have on your team. You have no other offensive threat that equals a full season of Tex.

If Hampton goes down, we still have three or four options waiting in the wings. Are they studs? Hardly, but then again, we’re not really expecting Hampton to win more than ten games this year-IF we’re lucky, so we’re prepared on that front.

Smoltz can and HAS pitched with his arm ready for major surgery. He’s done it before. When his arm hurts, he has been known to go sidearm or even to throw a knuckleball-SUCCESSFULLY. Sure as hell haven’t seen Pedro do that.

As for our other Ancient Arm Glavine-check it out Dude, he NEVER has been on the DL. Not too sure why you’re so concerned (or is it Hope?) that he will be injured for the first time ever. Actually, if you look at it realistically, Glavine’s only major injury was inflicted by a New York cabbie. Figures. Didn’t they wipe out another Mets’ pitcher, too? Must be Yankee fans.

By Spazz

March 30, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Welcome back DOB !!! I trust you had a reasonably uneventful day off, where you only had to spend the entire day traveling? Did you actually get any time to yourself?

By Austin

March 30, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

DOB

How is the weather looking in D.C?

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

On SportsCenter, Kruk just picked Braves to win the NL East and Phillies to win the Wild Card.

By richie

March 30, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Seems to me, uga-brave would only be in love with Frenchy if he were the 2nd coming of A-Rod…maybe it’s just me. Frenchy is just starting to get better, and I believe he is going to have a great year in all areas. Can’t wait for tonight….Go Braves!!!

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Austin, it’s 45 degrees now, which is right about what it’s supposed to be at gametime tonight. Only about 10 percent chance of rain until late tonight, when it increases a little.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

What, DOB?! John Kruk picked the Braves to win the division? Damn! This is not a good sign. Get ready for a fourth place finish, folks. lol

By Lew

March 30, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

DOB-Be on the lookout for the Skip Wurlitzer later this week. If not acceptable, email me, please and I’ll mail it later. .

By bruce

March 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

What pitch is Royce Ring throwing in picture 4 from last Friday? looks like finger nail on index finger is digging into the seams… thanks bruce

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

new blog will be coming shortly.

By ATL

March 30, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

The day hath arrived, for thine and thou to rejoice, a new regime hath arrived… Shakespeare “macbeth”

By Sean B.

March 30, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Last night on Baseball Tonight, both Buster Olney and Eric Young picked the Braves to win the division, with Young picking the Braves to win the World Series.

By bruce

March 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Dave Do you think they will show the Kansas-Davidson game on TVs around the stadium this afternoon? or should I plan to stop at a sports bar? Gates open today at 3:30 pm according to Nats site. Thanks, Bruce

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

LEW-SER, blah, blah, blah. It’s the same old talk you blabbed last year too. You’re a broken record with all your “Ms Cleo” talk. You keep talking about all that could go wrong on the Mets but funny how they end up with a better reoord than the braves and then you go silent. Lets see, last year it was how without Pedro we don’t have any pitching. Maine and Perez were worthless. I’m sure your selective memory won’t recall that. Guess what LEW-SER, the Mets still were better than your braves. 2008 won’t be any different.

By Austin

March 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

If it means anything and it really dosent accuscore has the Braves winning 64% of the time based on a minimum of 10,000 simulations.

By richbrave

March 30, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Thank God I’ll at least be able to enjoy one Braves game this year. See Carroll Rodgers is going to be in our fair city Thursday. Carroll, enjoy.

By McFann

March 30, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

You’re a broken record… Sniper-69

Lew’s a broken record? Dude, I’ve got news for you:

Your and broken record.

By flange1

March 30, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Good one McFann!

By drd99

March 30, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

SNIPER-Looks like your blow holin ain’t gonna work,we all know our team here,we know their ages,and histories better than anyone else,that said,win your Sorry Mutts,accomplish a similar feat talk smack!! until then Ol Joe says,Sit Down,Shut Up,and Know your ROLE,Choker!!!!

By drd99

March 30, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

No need to try to drive haome the fact the Mutts are the second best team in the N.L. East!! and by the way Lew is an old Friend of mine,and a loser he is not,on that I can attest!!!

By Lew

March 30, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Snipper-You talk about the same old rap? Dude, we’ve been hearing it from a succession of less than intelligent Mutts fans for going on four years now. First it was NL East, who morphed into NLChamps (THAT didn’t last long as they never won the NL). Then it was No Chop Zone and the Drooling Moron. Now it’s you (though I have a feeling you’re all one in the same). Same intelligence level (non-existent) and same old crap-ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Get over yourself. While you’re at it, why don’t you find a team worthy of your continuing line of horse manure? The Mets have nothing going for them-now or during their entire frustrating history. Calling me names won’t change the futility you face Snipper.

BTW-You never did tell us if the 69 part of your name refers to your IQ or the method of your conception.

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Blog delayed. Just got informed clubhouse opening and closing early today because of president’s visit to stadium, etc. So I’ve got to finish this scouting box for Pirates series and get over to ballpark.

I’ll file it from there after I see the place.

By Randy S

March 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

bruce - Looks like Royce is serving up a knuckle-curve there. Apparently he does officially throw one. LINK

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Bruce, sorry but I have no idea what will be showing on any sports bars in the stadium.

By McFann

March 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Thanks, flange 1!

By Austin

March 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

I hope the Braves unveil the new road alternates.

Any word on that DOB?

By FJR

March 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

so I’m trying ot make a baseball playlist. So far I have:

Boys of Summer Centerfield Empty Baseball Park (not really baseball related, but hey, I love whiskeytown) Batter Up - Nelly Take me out to the ballgame

any other suggestions?

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Tigers, Orioles and Reds all made offers for Pena, but were turned down, RotoWorld says. Curious. Maybe they weren’t offering enough, maybe we were holding out for Hatteburg, who just won the starting job in Cincy, so that wasn’t going to work.

Any word on the Braves new sanitary socks, DOB?

By Bubdylan

March 30, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

The waiting is the hardest part….

By Randy S

March 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

FJR - Belle and Sebastian’s “Piazza, New York Cathcher”. I don’t think they’ll be playing it at the stadium any time soon, but a great lil song nonetheless.

By Lew

March 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

FJR-Don’t forget Tessie by the Dropkick Murphys. Cool Irish Punk. I got the CD for St. Patrick’s Day.

By bruce

March 30, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Randy S: knuckle curve… cool thanks for the scoop. Dave Guess I will play it safe and watch from local sports bar Penn Quarter couple of Metro stops north of the stadium. thanks for your thoughts. Bruce

By McFann

March 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

FJR—

How about Pressure, by Billy Joel? He mentions baseball in one verse…

Then there’s always, Let Your Love Flow by the Bellamy Brothers.

: )

By Lew

March 30, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

DRD99-An old friend? I don’t recognize the tag. Is your name perhaps an abbreviation of a former email address? Did you used to live in Deltona?

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Lew-ser, you wouldn’t know anything about conception. it happens between a man and a woman. Your alternative life style prevents that. All the bending over won’t help you understand Lew-ser.

By The Goche (A.J.)

March 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

I’m sick of Dropkick Murphys, only because everyone in the world has latched onto it whenever doing anything related to Boston, particularly showing Red Sox games. And between ESPN and the playoffs we get plenty of chances to do that.

How many times did we hear that one song from the Departed, I think it’s “I’m Shipping Up to Boston” during the playoffs. You’ve almost got to be impressed with the determination shown at the way the play it after EVERY commercial break.

It almost makes you think that ESPN and FOX root for the Sox over the other teams…but who would believe that.

Not that they really (at least consciously) are, but they sure do make it easy to believe.

By CharlieAlphaBravo

March 30, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

My “Gammons Effect” theory continues to roll… A couple of weeks ago, no one outside of this blog was talking about our Bravos in regards to the NL East pennant, and now John Kruk (a former Phil no less) picks the Braves. Or maybe it’s because other than Mr. Baseball, Krukie’s the only one on Baseball Tonight who knows what he’s talking about.

By Bubdylan

March 30, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

My want new bloggy.

By Shamus Thacker

March 30, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

WB DOB!

Cold in Jawja today too. Mid-50s, but windy as Shicargo.

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Don’t get too excited brave fans. Those same ESPN analyst picked the braves to win the division last year after the Dotel and Texiera trades. How did that work out??

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Don’t get too excited brave fans. Those same ESPN analyst picked the braves to win the division last year after the Dotel and Texiera trades. How did that work out??

By CharlieAlphaBravo

March 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Goche:

If you think that FOX doesn’t consciously root for the Sox, then you’re fooling yourself. FOX cares about one thing only… Ratings. And that’s what Boston gives them. So if the ALCS comes down to the Sox and the M’s this year, you can be darn sure that the FOX baddies will be blasting the Dropkick Murphies between innings. Also, Josh Beckett will be throwing a 106 mph fastball, according to FOX’s radar gun.

By N8

March 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

OMG!!!!

Jayson Stark (you know….the guy who thought Andruw was “overrated” in CF?), picks the Braves to WIN the World Series, and Gammons is picking a Braves/Indians WS.

WTF!!!?!!

I thought ESPN hated the Braves? I thought they reign supreme with their EAST COAST LOVE FEST?

I’m sure that Stark has picked the Braves, he will “all of the sudden” go from being a moron, to a guy that knows EXACTLY what he’s talking about.

Homers……gotta love em, right?

By 18 Wheels of Love

March 30, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

What do you all think of my Gamecocks getting WKY’s Darrin Horn as their new basketball coach? Good move? i don’t know much about him…

By bravesfan

March 30, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

DOB where is the new blog?

By Lew

March 30, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Snipper-Hey a*******hole, I’ve been married to the same woman for 33 years and have children, so I guess you don’t know sh!t, do you? Comes as no surprise to all of us who have had to put up with your pathetic rap all this time.

Just wondered if you had a clue about how you arrived on the scene. It speaks volumes that you know how to reproduce. I’m sure you’re glad you got that figured out, aren’t you. It does tend to keep the unwashed masses of idiots happy and occupied, hence off of the streets. Only problem is that it leads to even more unwashed masses such as yourself. I guess even sex has it’s drawwbacks. Moron.

By Shamus Thacker

March 30, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

I’d love to hear a young Munson call a Braves/Mets game for ESPN. He’d refer to the Braves as “us” and to the Mets as “them.” lol

By Lew

March 30, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Maybe we should have a pool to figure how many times Snipper will call me Lew-ser. It speaks so well of him that it’s all he can come up with-without getting banned.

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Sorry folks, just spent one hour in special security line set up for the presidential visit. Secret service, turning on computers and recorders, dogs sniffing everything, us being put in a hallway until cleared to go back out, etc.

so much for the time I was going to have to write a new blog before going to clubhouse.

Clubhouse is opening and closing early, so I gotta get down there now.

By N8

March 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

flange1

Your 9:58 post, where you gave Rosenthal’s view on Brayan Pena (BTW, Ken Rosenthal picks the Braves to win the WS as well. Hmmmm), just shows me EXACTLY why we’re in good shape this year.

As of right now, our roster is deeper (and more healthy), than either of our 2 biggest NL East rivals. While the Mets certainly have the MONEY to afford another player or two at the deadline, I’m not so sure that they have the prospects to make such a trade, after draining their system for Johan.

Now, that being said, they might go out and sign Tex next off-season. But we’re NOT talking about the next off-season or the next season. We’re talking about NOW.

We have 3 legitimate prospects in our system that play CF (Hernandez, Anderson, Schafer - Blanco too if need be). We’ve got catching prospects GALORE! Contrary to what the Mutz fans think, we have pitching depth as well.

If Liberty Media allows payroll to be added during this season, there is NOTHING that makes me believe that we CAN’T (and won’t) go out and make another “Tex” type deal to get what we need (if what we already have is not enough - or in case of severe injury to the rotation or Chipper)

As for the Phillies. They’re are somewhere in the middle. They can and would add payroll in a trade if it’s there to be had. But don’t have the prospects we do, but they have more than the Mutz.

If it comes down to a bidding war between the Mutz, Phils and Braves for a player that would “swing” the balance of power in the division, who do you all think would not only have the guns to do so, but WOULD win that bidding war?

THAT is why we should be considered the favorites. Anything of ours that is “broke” can and will get fixed mid-season with our farm system and depth. Whether those kids get traded or called up is the ONLY question.

By Roman Gal

March 30, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

N8, Here’s how I see it: It’s kinda like if SNIPER were to say that the Mets were an old, decrepit team…Most here would agree with him but still think he’s an idiot.

By Savannah Guy

March 30, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Got your number right here:

Bravesfan79: Weren’t the early franchise fans actually Boston Red Caps fans back in 1879? You must be confusing Red Caps with Red Necks. Maybe you try Redneckfan79 as moniker. Suits you. So does 1879.

Sniper69: You seem to have an abnormal obsession with Lew. Very strange, don’t you think? Let’s break it down. You snipe, so that part of your moniker makes perfectly good sense. You’re a Mets fan, so that also fits with your tendency to run your mouth and melt down when faced with adversity… just like the Mets! Does the number 69 have anything to do with another tendency, like your, well, “odd” behavior?

Do you two “numbered” dudes even know there is a baseball game on tonight?

By SNIPER-69

March 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Blah, Blah, Blah.

By jbutler

March 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

N8 Hey- I just saw the same Stark article you’re talking about. Just about tossed up my Cheerios. Have to see what they say in the broadcast tonight though. Probably spend more time talking about the fancy new digs for the worst team in baseball rather than the Braves.

Wayne in UT Just a heads up if you do decide to wear your UT paraphanelia to a game…no one here will notice. Not out of disrespect to you- but its still a Broncos town/ so unless you were wearing your Jazz hat/shirt and just a smile…it wouldn’t get a second glimpse. Enjoy your stay- we’ll be at one of the Braves games that week too. Hope weather holds!!

By Lew

March 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

RomanGal-Of course, how can a Mets fan be anything BUT an Idiot? If he weren’t he wouldn’t be a Mets fan. Stands to reason.

By N8

March 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

CharlieAlphaBravo

Oh my, how people forget about years past. I’ve got a couple of buddies that AREN’T Braves fans, and for almost a decade, all they did was complain EVERY WEEK that the Braves were the only team that was ever on ESPN and Fox games of the week.

Why is that, do you think?

Hmmmm. Could it be because they were WINNING and were ridiculously popular in EVERY road city they visited?

TV is about DOLLARS. Period. Advertising makes TV networks money. Advertisers are gonna pay TOP dollars for advertising when they think that millions of people will tune in.

Or do you really think that a Rays/Royals game would “draw” the same amount of viewers as a Red Sox/Yankees game, nation wide (NOT just on the East Coast)??

Why do you think that TBS (in recent years) has decided to cut Braves games off for the likes of Friends, Raymond and Seinfeld re-runs?? Hmmmm. Not so sure.

Why is it that TBS has decided to televise “Baseball” rather than only Braves baseball? I’m guessing that some pretty smart people, who have the numbers in front of them to back up their actions, decided that TBS could make MORE MONEY by showing other teams.

Or did you forget that Ted doesn’t own TBS anymore. In fact, I’m surprised that a guy as business savvy as Ted Turner is (was), that he didn’t think of doing it YEARS ago. LOL!

Besides, do you REALLY think that Rupert Murdoch, who owns FOX and used to own the Dodgers, wouldn’t want HIS former team on instead, if they made him more money?

Face facts people. There is only one owner remaining in professional sports that is truly a FAN and runs his team like it, and that’s Mark Cuban, whom MLB wants NO PART OF (he is/was interested in the Cubs).

Every other owner, and TV exec out there doesn’t care about the fans. They care about who the fans will PAY to see play, and who they will tune into on TV, so the advertisers PAY them.

Period.

By Shamus Thacker

March 30, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Bobby wants another WS ring. That’s why he’s still around.

GO BRAVES!!!!!

By John

March 30, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

What is the diference between “Outrighted to minors” and “Sent to minors” ?

By TexasBrave

March 30, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Savannah Guy - Good to see you again. Hope everything is going well on the home front.

Is this just a passing blog just to get the taste of kicking some troll butt or are you here for the season?

Trust me when I say Lew has been doing a good job of taking care of little trolls like SNiper. But I am sure he wouldn’t mind some company.

Good to have you back!!

By Greg in TN

March 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Happy Opening Day folks…

The roster is set, the helmets are shined and ready, the Secret Service is checking the crusading everyman out much more thoroughly than what would be comfortable. And somewhere, Joe Morgan is preparing to underwhelm us as usual (can’t be a perfect opening day, but we can put the ESPN feed on mute and listen to Pete and Skip).

I am eager to see the changes to the ballpark. The images of Spahn, Aaron, Murphy, Niekro and Mathews on the OF walls have been replaced with what appears to be more of a complete tribute of the franchise by era. I like what glimpses I got of them.

And now denizens, with a nod to a movie with October in the title, I can almost imagine this being said in the visitor’s clubhouse of Nationals Park by BC:

Gentlemen! This is your manager! It is an honor to speak with you today, and I’m honored to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of Frank Wren’s most recent achievement.

And once more, we play our dangerous game. A game of chess… against our old adversary… The National League.

For 131 years, baseball men before you played this game… and played it well. But today, the game is different. WE have the advantage. It reminds me of the heady days of Spahn, Niekro and Maddux when the world trembled at the sound of strike three. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our bats. The order is: Engage the starting lineup!

Gentlemen! The National League doesn’t know our full potential! They will do everything possible to test us, but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave the NL behind! We will pass through the pennant drive, past the mets and the phillies, and play into October, and listen to their rants and whines, while we conduct victory parades!

A great day, gentlemen! We sail into history!

By Taylor S

March 30, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Just read on MLBTR where the Tigers, Reds, and Orioles tried to trade for Pena but the Braves didnt want to let him go. This seems odd ?

By TexasBrave

March 30, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Good speech Captain. The Braves will paint Major League baseball Red with envy all the way through October.

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

I got an idea. Why don’t we chip in to hire someone to write a Mutt blog and keep these clowns from scribbling all over our blog? Unfortunately, I think their team is so old, boring and insipid, they’d still keep coming over here. It’s the same on Scout; the Braves board is fast-moving and entertaining, and Mutts board is four guys arguing about whether George Foster or Steve Henderson should go into the HOF first.

Snipe: Being fat and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

By Roman Gal

March 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

ESPN shows the Braves plenty, people. Every time they show highlights of pitchers, they show the Braves striking out or grounding out. I can’t believe no one has noticed.

By Metropolitan Man

March 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

He Lew, did we forget about Glavines blood clot in 06’. He missed starts and even though 07’ went without any hiccups, who is to be sure Glavine doesnt think about that. When you are iron man and show a weakness in armor, it can come back to bite you. I hope he stay injury free because Hampton and Smoltz wont leaving Glavine and Hudson. Poor Hudson will sure be overworked this year for sure.

By Efrim

March 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

I think the Braves are going to be good this year, but I am shocked at how many people are picking them to win the East now. This simply wasn;t the case in February. They must of turned some heads in Spring Training. Had too, because a couple months back, it was the Mets and everybody else in the NL.

The stat heads like Neyer and Law are still picking the Mets to win 100 games though…..

or at least 95.

Not sure how that is possible with below average regulars like Church, Schneider, and Castillo…..

and injury prone regulars like Delgado and Alou.

By TJ

March 30, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Just read on MLBTR where the Tigers, Reds, and Orioles tried to trade for Pena but the Braves didnt want to let him go. This seems odd ?

Taylor, I guess it depends on what was being offered - doesn’t it? I bet the O’s were trying to get a taker for Jay Gibbons and his $12 mil (2-year) salary, before finally releasing him and eating the entire amount.

By brent a.

March 30, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Braves opening the season on Sunday night in the nation’s capital.

This is exciting.

That, plus, if Memphis holds on and Kansas wins, I’ll have picked every final four team correctly.

It’s the first time I’ve ever picked every #1 seed to make the final four, and lo and behold …

By Metropolitan Man

March 30, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

What, no “Twas the Night Before Openeing Day ” skit? You guys are slipping.

LETS GO METS!!!

By Austin

March 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Roman Gal

You are absolutely right!! Every time someone is striking out it happens to be a Braves batter. Every time someone hits a home run it’s against a Braves pitcher!

By Pete H.

March 30, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Hah, check out Rotoworld. The Mutts just put 273 players on the DL. Well, close. The Tigers seemed to be in competition. Man, if we can’t turn Pena and Royce Ring into something really good from Detroit, like Inge and half his salary, something’s wrong.

By Lew

March 30, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Let’s see-Glavine missed less starts in an almost 20 year career than El Duque misses annually.

By bravesare#1

March 30, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

DOB we haven’t heard from you since 3:05 pm. It’s opening day we have to have a new blog, pleaseeeeee….

By Metropolitan Man

March 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Let’s see-Glavine missed less starts in an almost 20 year career than El Duque misses annually.

How will will ever know that for sure since El Duque has had 2, count them 2 baseball careers. 1 in Cuba and 1 in the US. That arm has probably logged more innings than Gglavine and Hampton put together.

By mo in the boonies

March 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Was looking forward to tonight watching one of the few games, I’ll be able to see this year, until someone on here reminded me that Morgan and Miller would be announcing it…sigh..talk about rubbing salt in the wound.

By THE BEAR

March 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Roster turnover is huge..so huge I hadn’t noticed just how much until today. I think I am right in that only 9 players on the 25 opening tonight against Washington were on the opening day roster last year. They include:

McCann

Chipper

Francouer

K. Johnson

Diaz

Hudson

Pena

Boyer

Soriana

Remember Smoltz is not on the opening day roster and Chuck is going to Richmond.

If I missed anyone feel free to correct this.

By Anders

March 30, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Efrim

I think the Braves are going to be good this year, but I am shocked at how many people are picking them to win the East now. This simply wasn;t the case in February. They must of turned some heads in Spring Training.

One name = Hampton. If he’s healthy the Braves are the safe pick and possibly right as I’ve said all along. That said, I’m not sure what changed faster, the ESPN picks themselves or how most on here now believe in ESPN . A month ago all I heard was ESPN was littered with nothing but a bunch of know nothing North East loving yahoos. Now everything they say is Gospel(Except for those not picking the Braves). Just saying. Personally I think picking baseball winners is futile. Too long a season with numerous issues that can arise.

By Marshall

March 30, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

bravesare#1 - just read his post at 3:05 and you’ll know why we haven’t heard from him in heaven forbid almost 2 hours. Things have to be hectic at the nation’s capitol with W in the building. Cut him some slack!

By JC FROM UT

March 30, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

PETE H: Did read or hear something about a possible deal involving Pena/Ring to Detroit?

By drd99

March 30, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

No Lew I never Lived in Deltona,you probably would recognize me by this tho… By God Joebrave is in the House and some putrid Mutt lovin @ssmonkey’s are gonna get it And Good,I have my Boots polished,and am about to lay Boot to some Mutt lovin @sses!!!!!

By David O'Brien

March 30, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

NEW BLOGGAGE IS UP

By drd99

March 30, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Spme @ss-turd has been using my blog name to make Ol Joe look pretty bad,yet I still stand with a shot form Clobber’s saloon,With a few names I still remember,and a nasty dislike for anything brandished with the Stench of Mutt,or Philthies Ilk!!!! Sniper,how can your Stinkin MUTTS win with only One quantified Starter????????? Santana can’t start em all Beatch!!!!

By joebrave

March 30, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Hello Lew,Wayne in Utah,Mo in the boonies,Savannah Guy,etal: D.O.B. dude you’re still the BEST,and really do something about Frenchy,man he can’t approach the plate,with Gary Alan!!!

By ncgary

March 30, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

if ever there were a game that will prove whether superior athleticism can be negated by superior intellect, the davidson kansas game would be it. dont count out the eggheads dob go wildcats now come on dob even you cant be pullin against some wild kat now can ya? lol

By Josh

March 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

If you would’ve read starks argument on why Andruw was overrated you would agree. I personally couldn’t stand andruw for many years because of the way he never hustled.

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