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By Jared

March 16, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Bold blog.

By Stephen

March 16, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Dave, An update on Francoeur regarding the HBP?

By Braves20

March 16, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

DOB - Respectfully disagree that Corky’s homer was wind aided. It was more of line drive and got out very quickly as opposed to Pena’s HR earlier in the game that looked like it would surely get caught and just kept drifting back.

Wind blown or not, had to be a great moment for a guy who, by all accounts, is a great guy and hard worker.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

New blog was being posted when this occurred, so I’ll post again here:

SCARY MOMENT: Francoeur has just been hit in the left side of the face by a pitch with one out in the second inning.

Keep in mind, he had a very frightening incident in A-ball in 2004 when he was hit by a pitch in the left side of his face, which left him with a broken eye socket/orbital bone and other damage and required a plate insert to repair. He still has the plate in there, if I’m not mistaken.

Bobby Cox and asst. trainer Jim Lovell raced out to the plate just now, and Francoeur was able to get up after a couple of minutes and walk off the field with Lovell at his side, headed to clubhouse.

Bobby just threw the batting helmet into the dugout as he came off field. He looked quite p’d off.

Blanco is in to replace him.

I’ll update soon as I hear anything on Francoeur, but my first impression is that it wasn’t nearly as bad as it could have been today. He wasn’t bleeding, at least I saw no blood.

But until I hear something, we’ll hold off making any further amateur diagnosis.

By Joe Simpson

March 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Escobar’s homerun is to the opposite field!!!!1 That means it counts like, double.

By JDfromSC

March 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

WOOO Selection Sunday! Go Winthrop Eagles!!!! (i go to college there :p) We’ll probably get a 14 or 15 seed.

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Bench-Prado, Anderson, Thorman(dont like him but he is the best choice), Lopez, and Lillibridge till Omar comes back.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

ESCOBAR just hit a BOMB just to the right of dead-center. A two-run shot. Very impressive drive, folks.

I was talking to Pendleton, Chipper and others about Escobar during BP, for a story I’m doing on him next week. Escobar was cranking home runs in BP and I asked Terry, is it just me or does he seem like he’s hitting a lot more balls deeper?

“Oh, no, he’s bigger and stronger,” T.P. said. “He’s strong as an ox.”

I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’ll be one of the best-hitting shortstops in baseball in short order, possibly even this season. Not just talking average, but power and average.

Could be a 40-50 doubles, 15-homer guy this season, with more to come.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Hudson in line to start opener

Looks like it’s going to be Hudson-Smoltz-Glavine-Hampton-Jurrjens.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

OK, a test for Glavine: Runners at second and third, none out, Pujols up in third.

Pujols just yanked an 0-1 pitch hard down line, but foul.

At 0-2, takes one in on shins. Then takes another low pitch, 2-2.

Pujols fooled on outside pitch, but gets wood on it and grounds out to second for RBI. Braves lead trimmed to 3-1.

Runner at third, Glaus up.

By ncgary

March 16, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

queek sign him now, snicker snicker

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Just walked Glaus. Runners on corners, one out, Ankiel up.

GIDP, inning over. Good work by Glavine to avoid lof more damage.

Braves20, Corky is definitely a good dude. Everybody likes him. And he did hit that ball hard, might have gotten out anyway. But wind was blowing straight out to left, where he hit it.

Sorry to have offended you.

By Mike in LA

March 16, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

tell me the braves retaliated for francouer. Thats ridiculous getting hit in the face in a spring training game

By AJinAZ

March 16, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Sick as I sit here wondering about Frenchy!! Heres hoping he OK.

By Blake Penno

March 16, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Mike in LA

I really doubt it was intentional, plus the Braves have more class than that anyway.

By ncgary

March 16, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

might be a good day to let yates stretch out for 3 innings

By Bryan

March 16, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

frenchy is ok - so says the radio

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Here’s initial report on Francoeur from Braves official who’s down in clubhouse and send this e-mail:

“[Francoeur] took the ball off the left corner of his mouth/cheek.

“Is on his way to the hospital for precautionary x-rays, but initially it looks as if he was lucky and is going to be OK. Has lacerations inside his mouth and might need some stitches, but did not lose any teeth and did not have heavy bleeding.”

By Epinephrine

March 16, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Radio guys talking about what a scary pitcher Wellemeyer is to face. Yeah, I’m sure he is if he throws at people’s faces. I hope Glav at least through something high and inside.

By Braves20

March 16, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

DOB - No offense taken. Just wanted to differentiate Corky’s shot from the cheapie Pena got off Smoltz.

Good news on Frenchy according to Pete.

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Just as it is ridiculous as it is to get hit in a face in a Spring Trainging game isnt just as ridiculous to retaliate in a Spring Training Game. Pitches get away from you sometime. Get over it!

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Francoeur was real lucky, it appears.

He was hit in left side, corner of mouth. The incident in 2004 was on the RIGHT SIDE, not left. He had squared to bunt when he got hit by that pitch in ‘04 in Class A ball.

He’s got a deep cut inside lower lip and a smaller cut in the upper inside of his cheek.

Never lost consciousness, Braves said.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Jared, from my story yesterday on Smoltz/Soriano and the split-squad games: “Cox hasn’t announced his regular-season rotation order, but the every-fifth-day schedule has Hudson in line to start the March 30 opener at Washington, and Smoltz would get the March 31 home opener against Pittsburgh.”

But thanks for linking to another outlet’s story for the info.

And the rest of the rotation isn’t set yet, as far as the order. Braves could skip a starter in the third day of season, an off day after the home opener. Or they might not. Just no way of knowing yet.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

UNCONFIRMED

An anonymous source has leaked that the Braves are potentially engaged in preliminary talks to possibly acquire another big stick for the bench. It is not progressed to anything of actual substance yet but it is within the realm of possibility that it is:

BARRY BONDS

This will potentially be confirmed today with an unsubstantiated rumor.

Stay Tuned.

By jim

March 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

I was having the same thoughts about Blanco making the team. The OF situation looks like it’s a nice problem to have with Shaffer looking to be nearly ready, Anderson, Blanco, and Jones battling for a 4th spot this year, and Heyward and G. Hernandez in the wings down the road.

Now, if only the pitching were to be that deep.

By nOLIE

March 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

.could have left him short a finger.

Hey, it worked for Mordecai “Three Fingers” Brown!Chrisklob

See Niels, Chris does too have a sense of humor. you just can’t see it cause it’ssooo dark down there in your mommy’s basement.

By hk

March 16, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

… ‘MVP’leaders so far (through yesterday),(Runs + HR’s + RBI’s) …

http://www.mindspring.com/~hk3/mvp08.htm

By superadam

March 16, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

DOB I just got back from Dark Star where I had a great time. A friend of mine is good friends of Glen Hubbards kid. My friend does car custom stuff. We brought down his vw phaeton to let Mr Hubbard drive to show off to the players. I got to park in the players lot, parked right by your and TPs bike(not the one with the picture of the family on it, the other bike he had). I had a great time at the game. Mr Hubbard was a great host and a really cool guy that gave a bunch of insight and talked alot of baseball with me. If you get a chance check out the car, I am probably coming to the last Dark star games to pick up the car, hopefully I will get a chance to meet you. Mr Hubbard told me one bike was TPs and hew said the other was before he could answer I said David O Brien and he looked kind of impressed I knew you drove a bike. Overall an awesome time

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Listening to the Braves announcers and it sounds like Francoeur is going to be all right. Frenchy has some lacerations(cuts) in his mouth and will be x-rayed to check for anything else.

By Moby Grape

March 16, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Mobey was ripping me on my Thorman comments. Thorman plays adequate D, and hustles, which is why I at least respect the guy.Andy

oh my Andy. I hope you don’t really think that response was a “rip”. I thought it was pretty mild myself. Sorry if it bothered you, but we are all going to disagree at times and voice that disagreement. The pun about cup of coffee could have alerted you that I wasn’t being nasty.

By AJinAZ

March 16, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

He didnt lose consciousness but I think I did when I read it. Here hoping it doesnt affect his aggressiveness. Hes a tough dude having been though it before and come back. Just unlucky.

By david

March 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

hope jeffs ok i think he has a big year comin up go braves

By Matt

March 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Bonds you say? Seems to make little to no sense. I doubt Bonds would take a severe pay cut to be a part time player for an NL team, and I doubt the Braves would really be that interested with the consensus seeming to be that Matt Diaz will be the everyday LF. If it’s a cheap, incentive laden contract, then why not? It can’t go any worse than the Mondesi experiment. But they’ve got to remember that this guy is a defensive liability that may be in court more than on the field this season.

By Epinephrine

March 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Another solid from Glavine. Not dynamite stuff, but the guy is going to be giving us a chance to win about every time he takes the hill. As our third starter. Having that stability will do wonders for both Smoltz/Huddy and our bullpen.

Hard not to be excited about this team.

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Capt Caveman I hope you are wrong. I want nothing to do with Bonds and if we get Bonds and anyone on here is happy about it then you are a hypocrite. Everybody on here has bashed Bonds.

I cant see the Braves actually getting Bonds. Partly cause of the whole steroids thing and everyone hating him. Also cause he broke Hank’s record.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

I have been thinking that Blanco might be trade bait. The Braves have a ton of outfield depth with Anderson , Jones , Borchard , Schafer and Hernandez. Four of these outfielders can and do play CF.

By Lew

March 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Caveman-Heard that on XM Home Plate on Wednesday. Not too sure they’d want to deal with the attendant circus that is sure to follow him wherever he goes-or the potential court stuff, either.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Kotsay just demonstrated his arm on a nice 8-5 double play, throwing out Ankiel trying to advance to third on a fly to center.

By jim

March 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Lew, I agree with your comments about Chuck James on the previous blog. How many other rookie pitchers for the Braves, or anyone else, have won 22 games in their first 1 and 1/2 years? He may not be Sandy Koufax, but he’s not Mark Redman either.

I can remember going to Braves games up in Stade Olympique a few years ago when the Canadian dollar was worth about 85 cents and you could buy seats right behind home plate for about 30 dollars Canadian from the scalpers outside who were just trying to unload their tickets. I loved Montreal and the drive through the Adirondacks to get there, and preferred going to games there rather than the closer Shea Stadium with the higher prices and the incessant noise of planes taking off from LaGuardia. I assume you were one of the many Brave fans seen throughout the crowd. I hated to see the Expos leave.

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

So… how is the game coming along?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Kotsay has a gun in CF and the Cardinals just found out about it. Runner on second trying to advance to third on a fly ball to CF and Kotsay gunned him down at 3B to end the fifth inning.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

If Bonds is still putting up an OBP of around .440 and an OPS over .1000, I’d take him as a platoon partner with Diaz.

But I don’t believe for even one second that the Braves have any real interest in signing him.

By Zac

March 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Would Bonds really be that big a risk if he would sign for the vet minimum? Who knows, if noone else is kicking the tires he just might. Would he really be a bigger risk than, say, Craig Wilson? I think Bonds is way passed the primadonna stage at this point. That said, there couldn’t be a more unsubstantiated rumor.

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Okay, this is freaky. My audio’s messed up on gameday, but their box score just popped up Bennett to pitch, then replaced immediately by - get this - Scott Thorman. Maybe they’ll find a roster spot for him after all!

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Jeff Bennett pitched great , again. Two more scoreless innings.

By Epinephrine

March 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Bennett is making a strong case for himself. Today will be very big for Ring.

By jim

March 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

MLB has Thorman (and Bennett) pitching in the 6th. (Maybe as the right-left combo to frustrate Larussa’s order!) Wasn’t Thorman a pitching prospect as well as a hitter when the Braves signed him? Maybe this is a way they could get more use out of him if he makes the team — save the bullpen blowout specialist.

By FJR

March 16, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

um guys, I am pretty sure that was a joke by capt caveman.

By TexasBrave

March 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

DOB - just finished reading your opening blog. Was wondering if you are saying that going into ST that Bobby was leaning towards giving Diaz the majority of at bats or is it because Brandon Jones hasn’t done well this spring that things have now changed?

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

I cant believe what Im reading! It is Barry Bonds people, there should be no way in HE!L that we take him. Just a couple of months ago all of you wanted him locked in jail for perjury after the Mitchell Report came out and the supposedly failed drug test. Now all of you are saying it would be great if we signed him. Doesnt matter what how much we pay him, he is the poster child of the Steroid era and he broke the Hank’s record.

SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!

By jim

March 16, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

The number of errors that the Braves infield has made this spring, especially Escobar, is a bit worrying if the trend continues. However, I don’t think KJ has made any. How has his range and fluidity making the plays looked this spring?

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

MLB site still shows Thorman pitching. Last I looked, they had him giving up a single and inducing a groundout!

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Scott Thorman’s pitching debut in bizzaro world: 1 IP, 1 single, one groundout, two flyouts. Not bad for a first baseman, huh? I wonder how long it will take them to fix it.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Jeff Bennett pitched great , again. Two more scoreless innings.

Again? Has Jeff Bennett’s spring training ERA dropped below five yet?

Quick, sign Bennett to an eight-year deal now!

By BA

March 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

If the Braves sign Bonds I will throw up all over my Niekro jersey. The guy is the biggest dirtbag this side of Brett Myers. If they sign him, they may as well put satan in the rotation.

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

WOW!!! So MLB is showing Thorman is pitching. Now wait a second, let me get this straight. You mean everything you see on the internet isnt right??? Thats Crazy!!!

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

John Nelson just appeared out of the blue at SS for the Braves.

I’m thinking he is the same John Nelson who played in the Cardinals system last season.

He is a former Cardinals 2001 8th round pick. He hit 15 HR’s with 44 RBI while batting .211 in 103 games played between AA Memphis and AAA Iowa last season.

Nelson is primarily a SS and played 50 games between 3b and 1B in 2007.

By DCbrave

March 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

If somebody is watching/listening the game, could you please do a bit more play by play calls with the score update please as DOB appears to be busy w/ other stories (re Bonds?).

By Jared

March 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Maybe this is a way they could get more use out of him if he makes the team — save the bullpen blowout specialist.

You know, I don’t think I can ever recall a time Cox used a position player to pitch an inning to give the bullpen a rest when the Braves were getting blown out. Has he ever done it?

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I’m bummed. I have to leave in the morning for DC for three days. No computer, so no Braves Blog. This thing is like electronic crack.

Speaking as a reporter (not sports), DOB has gotta be the most productive writer the AJC ever had.

By FJR

March 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

If satan got us back into the playoffs…. I mean you’d have to imagine he would at least be slightly more intimidating on the mond than mark redman was.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Jared , Bennett’s ERA is now a respectable 3.85 , your a real Rocket Scientist today !

By jim

March 16, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Has Satan developed a third pitch yet, or does he just rely on guile?

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

DC Brave: Still 3-2 in bottom of 8th. That’s all I know.

By jim

March 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

So far this spring Thorman’s ERA is lower than his BA.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

“Jared , Bennett’s ERA is now a respectable 3.85 , your a real Rocket Scientist today!”

You’re telling me.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

3-2 Braves win , game over.

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

So the Cards loaned us a shortstop?

jim: Still no third pitch, but I’ve heard he’s a master of deception.

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Nolie, thanks for the back up. If Neils “Random” Boor would get out of Mom’s basement a little each day and go outside, take in some fresh air, and go talk to actual people face to face, he just might learn how to talk to people in such a way where they’d respect him.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 16, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Bonds Update

In a rumor that has been deliberately leaked by an unnamed source Barry Bonds has discussed his potential role as a bench player.pinch-hitter,and also has worked on playing first base in the off season. He has possibly been in contact with the Braves front office about a one year deal at the veteran minimum with stipulations to apply in the case of his legal situation becoming accelerated during the season. Neither side has release a statement confirming or denying this information and no formal negotiations have been announced as of yet, which is standard procedure for the current Braves front office business model.

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

DOB: might I ask who is responsible for keeping the official box score, and how drunk they were?

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

If Frank Wren signs Barroid Bonds, I quit. I’ll go root for the Cubs or something.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

NO Jared. Thorman pitched and I played 1B and You are still a ROCKET SCIENTIST !

The box score YOU were reading was incorrect. Thorman came into the game to play 1B and Bennett was pitching.

Now, please pull YOUR head out of YOUR A$$ and stop being a Retard!

By Ric Flair

March 16, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Captain Caveman it sounds like you have been clubbed over the head one to many times.

By BosnianBaller

March 16, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

How much more does yates have to suck before they let him go.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Just talked to Frenchy when he returned from hospital. He’s swollen and has some nasty cuts in there, but no breaks. Very lucky. He said he was kind of freaking out initially because of flashbacks to getting hit before, but then he could tell right away it wasn’t anywhere near as serious.

He says he’ll probably play Wednesday or Thursday, but that sounds a bit optimistic or overly ambitious. We’ll see. Bobby said a “few games.”

Bobby comes over to see him in the clubhouse, looks at Frenchy’s face and says, “No sex tonight.”

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

By the way, Bennett pitched quite well, again. Dude’s put his name right back in the job hunt….

Superadam, glad you had a good time. Hubby’s a real good guy. Love talking to him about baseball.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

The box score YOU were reading was incorrect. Thorman came into the game to play 1B and Bennett was pitching.

Yeah I frickin’ know. Where did I say otherwise? The only thing even close is my 3:37 PM post today, but that was in regards to Cox using position players to pitch in the regular season and had nothing to do with today.

Get your reading comprehension above the third grade level before calling people a “retard”.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 16, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

DOB

Do you know exactly how small of a glove the Hubbard used in the majors?? It is reported to be on of the smallest of all-time.

By DCbrave

March 16, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

It is so hard that the purported pursue of Bonds by the Braves has any merits simply because that would be against the very principle of the Braves organization in the JS era unless FW is ready to violate that. But if Bonds side contacted the Braves, that is a different story. You cannot stop anybody from contacting you anyway. There is just no way the Braves could be serious about this.

By Alan

March 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

I agree with DOB about the Braves’ bench. It’s too bad Kotsay, Anderson and Blanco all hit lefthanded because all of them can really play and all deserve to make the big club. Obviously Kotsay is the starter - one of the others will be at Richmond or part of a trade as others have suggested. I believe B. Jones - also lefthanded, but not as versatile as those other guys (and not having a good spring) - is on his way to Richmond, and I’ll bet he’s in the next wave of cuts. Until Infante is ready, Prado should be the utility infielder ahead of Lillibridge - unless he’s also traded for a power bat off the bench (say, Kevin Millar). Prado has a lot of talent. If he were traded for Millar (which I wouldn’t do, by the way, but the Braves could use a righthanded power hitter off the bench - I don’t think Javy is the answer) and the Orioles trade Brian Roberts to the Cubs as has been rumored for months, Prado would be the best candidate to start at 2B in Baltimore. Perhaps he’d start alongside another former Brave, Luis Hernandez, at SS. Speaking of Javy, I don’t think he’s going to make the team. All of the other catching candidates are younger, of course, and better defensively - and Lopez hasn’t hit a lick this spring except for a couple of bombs. Right now if I were choosing McCann’s backup, I’d go with either Sammons or B. Pena. The Braves are going to have a lot of tough decisions to make about their roster over the next two weeks.

By ippississiM

March 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Coach: the fact that the official MLB box score was wrong was the whole point of that conversation. We were making fun of the fact that according to the official scorekeeper, Thorman pitched two innings, gave up a single, and allowed no walks or runs.

By Logan23

March 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

“There’s a sucker born every minute” is a phrase often credited to P.T. Barnum (1810 – 1891), an American showman. It is generally taken to mean that there are (and always will be) a lot of gullible people in the world.

By Alter Ego

March 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

I just saw the CNN news scroll on the bottom of the screen say that Bonds and Braves working on tentative agreement.

WOW - holy attendance boost Batman !! Imagine having that left handed bat on the BENCH.

Bonds wants that ring and he knows where to go to get it.

By BravesFanChris23

March 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Whew. A little scare with Jeff. Glad its not as bad.

I can’t wait for the regular season to begin. Spring Training has gotten me excited about the possibilities.

I have somewhat bit of good news to the fans like me who don’t get Peachtree TV and won’t be able to watch Braves games due the new station.

On the MLB Extra Innings Package, you might still be able to watch them. I’ll explain….

Last year (my first year of MLB Extra Innings), when Braves’ games didn’t come on TBS or Sports South/FSN South, they still aired the Braves game on the other teams network.

For instance I remember a Braves/Nats game wasn’t on TBS/Sports South/FSN South, but I still got to watch it on Nats network.

I don’t know for sure if this will apply to this year due to Peachtree, but if it does apply, then maybe we’ll get to see the games via the other teams network.

By Choppinmama

March 16, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Bobby was reading my mind! Poor Frenchy.

Pete H: No computer, so no Braves Blog. This thing is like electronic crack. Yeah, Pete, I am hooked big time too and don’t need an intervention either.

UGABrave: good luck tonight, your boys deserve to take it home. Lots of talent, guts and heart on display so far.

By HuffBraves

March 16, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

The Braves bullpen situation, in honor of Selection Sunday:

Automatic bids: Rafael Soriano Peter Moylan Manny Acosta Will Ohman

Last 3 In: Blaine Boyer Jeff Bennett Chris Resop

Last 3 Out: Tyler Yates Royce Ring Jeff Ridgway

By DCbrave

March 16, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

The Bonds bomb for real? If CNN is saying something about it, then ….

DOB, do you have any insider/outsider info/insight on this? This would be huge, for good or for bad.

By StingerSplash

March 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

About the Bonds’ rumor … in the words of King Coffee at the end of the B-hole Surfers’ video for “Who the Hell Was In My Room”, “Make it stop. Dear God, make it stop.” On a side note, wonder if I can convince Gibby to do my taxes….

By Captain Obvious

March 16, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Why would CNN be the ones breaking this news? Think people!

By Eric from MO

March 16, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Are you all serious about Bonds? Something tells me you are all full of s**. Why is CNN breaking this news and not ESPN?

By richbrave

March 16, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

DAVID O’BRIAN:

Sez’ me.

As GIL IN MECHANICSVILLE and I both said last fall, Lillibridge has the best glove and greatist upside, BUT Prado’s most ready all round AT THIS TIME. He’s had more exposure to ML play. This spring is his fourth?(‘05-‘08) go round with Atlanta, right? If Bobby’s ever gonna’ use him nows the time.

Sez you?

By TJ

March 16, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

I just saw a scroll on Al Jazeera that the Braves are talking to McGwire about backing up 1B.

They’re usually the best source for MLB rumors, btw.

By Abu Ibrahim al-Tikriti

March 16, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Al-Jazeera confirms: Barry Bonds a Brave!

By Anderson Cooper

March 16, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Confirmed. Bonds now a Brave.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

As you can tell from that photo of Frenchy posted on our website, watching the game from a pressbox without benefit of TV replays can make it difficult to see details like blood on the mouth. Obviously, he had plenty, as the picture shows.

For a 24-year-old player, he’s already had a couple of nasty incidents with pitches to each side of the face.

By Greg in TN

March 16, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Afternoon folks…

Just not a good day all the way around yesterday. Vols played well, but defense let them down yesterday, particularly down low. The Hogs made the stops when they needed it and Hill’s shot at the end put them over.

Smoltz and Jurrjens didn’t pitch badly and wasn’t light’s out yesterday. Today, Glavine bent but didn’t break in holding the Cards to to two earned runs over five innings. Typical Glavine performance that we’ve seen over the years. Jeff Bennett pitched well today and Chipper and Escobar both went yard. Blanco stole a base, Kotsay had an OF assist. Good way to bounce back.

I’m certainly glad that Francoeur wasn’t injured worse than what he got today, especially with what happened to him at Myrtle Beach. I know that had to have flashed through his mind. Dodged a big bullet there gang.

Another big day for Mike Hampton tomorrow in Jupiter.

By Catie

March 16, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

My poor Frenchy poo. Those mean boys hit him in the kisser. Now Catie can’t get no loving from my stud. Shoulda married that chubby McLovin behind the plate instead.

By richbrave

March 16, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

OMG BONDS A BRAVE!! Shoot me now. Aarghh, aarghh. Gotcha’!! Don’t believe you Mr. Cooper. Prove it. Lemmie see a copy of the signed contract.

By ncgary

March 16, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

how bout them dawgs

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 16, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

BULLDAWGS SEC CHAMPS

YYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

By Wolf Blitzer

March 16, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Bonds a Brave…amazing, amazing.

By Choppinmama

March 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Who is Faran F* writing on the Braves website? Just read his story on Francoeur, here’s a couple examples of stellar journalism:

“He spit up some blood.” I doubt it, spit some out maybe….

“A preliminary exam found lacerations lining the inside of his lower left lip….” I guess that’s opposite his lower right lip….

Sheeeesh!

By cricket

March 16, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

CONGRATS to all the dawgs on the board. That was an incredible run. And speaking of incredible, how about Tiger Woods !!

By Bravesfan79

March 16, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

I just saw a hot rumor on the Food Network that the Braves are bringing in the Hamburgular to compete with Thorman for the backup 1st baseman job.
The new potential backup stated he felt alot safer now that Big Fat Bob Wickman is no longer around.

By texmex

March 16, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Where are you ppl reading these bs rumors on Bonds?

By True Braves Fan

March 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

DOB: Any comments on Tyler Yates? Possible arm problems or is he just burned out? I could understand being overworked in September 2007, but this is spring training. Barring a complete turn around, I don’t see how he can make the 25 man roster to start the season. (Unless on DL.) Would appreciate your opinions on this situation.

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

They’re just making it up, texmex.

If he would take a contract paying $10 an hour, or about $30 a day, we might have interest.

By KC

March 16, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

SCOTT THORMAN THROWS 2 SHUTOUT INNINGS!!!

I was just looking at the [AJC box score[(http://64.246.64.33/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=ajc&page=mlb/scores/final/preboxscore.aspx?GameID=23619) from today’s game, and noticed that Scott Thorman threw 2 scoreless innings. WOW… that could really help his chances of making the team if he’s that versatile! LOL

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

TrueBravesFan: Neither arm problems or “burned out,” just throwing poorly. He thinks he’s got something wrong with his delivery.

Might also have something going on upstairs, pressing to try to earn a spot if he believes his job’s in jeopardy.

If Bobby Cox wants him on the team, he’ll be on the team, whether he has a 0.00 ERA or 13.00 ERA. Bobby doesn’t care much, or at all, about spring stats if he’s seen a guy in real games and believes there’s nothing wrong physically with him now. Not sure his exact thinking right now on Yates, but wouldn’t surprise me if he kept him, since he’s out of options and Braves wouldn’t get much in a trade for him.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Richbrave, Prado’s had another very good camp, and this time I think he’s in a good situation to make the club because of Infante’s injury. He’s ahead of Lillibridge in the view of seemingly everyone who’s seen them this spring.

By TennesseePaul

March 16, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Delgado, one of many Mets already injured this spring, definitely was in the wrong spot.

The slugger hit an RBI double in the third inning and later took a lead off third base.

Brady Clark swung and broke his bat, and the jagged barrel sailed down the line and speared Delgado on the outside of his right forearm. Right away, his arm was covered in red streams
FoxSports

Ouch.

By KC

March 16, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

texmex:

I’m not sure where he got that Bonds rumor from… probably the Jason Blair sports blog (or something equally dependable).

I heard the Braves are signing David Wells to be their closer, and Rafael Palmeiro to be their backup first-baseman! Oh… and their bringing back John Rocker to compete for the lefty slot in the bullpen.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Hey, anyone have any idea why Barry Bonds was just now walking into the Braves’ team hotel?

By ncscoots

March 16, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

It appears that today was the day ML players decided to rent “There Will Be Blood”.

No milkshakes for Frenchy and Carlos, though.

By flange1

March 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Was it to meet Roger Clemens to discuss PED strategies?

By ncgary

March 16, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

if we were going to sign bonds why couldnt they have did it last year and benc\hed him

By ncscoots

March 16, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Tigers are in your Kansas bracket, DOB. Oh, lordy, that matchup would be worth a ticket. 3-D glasses needed to focus the blur of those two up and down the court.

And congrats to you Dawg people. That’s as gutsy a performance in a conference tourney as I’ve seen in a long time.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

I heard that Dale Murphy is on a flight right now , might be taking over in CF real soon.

By Robert

March 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Is this Bonds news true DOB!

By Otis Nixon

March 16, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Wait just a damn minute , I can still play.

By KC

March 16, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

I really hope Anderson wins the 4th OF job (as I’m pretty sure he will). Even if Blanco out-hits him this spring… Anderson’s speed would be a huge asset.

You could bring Anderson in to pinch run for Diaz or Kotsay late in the game. He seems to be one of those guys that nearly every time he reaches first base… it’s as good as a double.

It would be tremendous to have that kind of base-stealing threat on the bench. And he’s not terrible hitter. Certainly not a bad fielder… quite the opposite from what I hear. So I think he just makes more sense than Blanco.

We don’t have a serious base-stealing threat in the lineup, but at least we could have on on the bench.

By KC

March 16, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

DOB: I just know someone’s going to take you seriously.

By Bob Wickman

March 16, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll need a closer?

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

I was at his store out in Alpharetta a few years back, and Otis certainly looked like he could go out there and play, Otis. The guy is in great shape.

By KC

March 16, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

nscoots: That “I Drink Your Milkshake” sketch on SNL is fantastic! Very well done. I haven’t seen There Will be Blood yet. Is there actually a milkshake scene in the movie that whole sketch is based on?

By Ozzie Virgil

March 16, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

If that Javy thing doesn’t work out, gimme a call.

By KC

March 16, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

Pete H.: What store is that?

By Buzz Capra

March 16, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

I believe that #5 starter role is gonna be mine.

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

KC, at the end of the movie, the monster is explaining to someone he ripped off how he slant-drilled under the guy’s land and pumped out all the oil. Then he gloats “I drink your milkshake.”

It’s a must-see movie. As is No Country for Old Men.

By Jerry Royster

March 16, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Prado, Lil’Bridge, gimme a break. I am your man for utility infielder. Since Nixon and Furcal broke my stolen base record, I am itching to get back in the lineup.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 16, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Speculation Confirmation

It’s True!! It’s True!! (blazing saddles quote)

From THE DAILY SHOW starring JOHN DALY:

This non-tenable confirmation has been potentially rendered in the form of an blog excerpt from a noted baseball insider that an anonymous Braves front office executive has issued a possible confirming or denying statement in the latest attempt to sign Barry Bonds to a one-year contract. Sources say it could be slipped in under budget constraints and worked around MBL roster rules by naming him as a bullpen catcher or assistant trainer/player/coach. All of these scenario’s are just as ridiculously possible as some of way-off base knee-jerk reactions that have been posted on this blog since pitchers and catchers reported.

Bonds has confirmed to be cheched-in under his alias — Willie Mays Hayes.

Now BLOG THAT !!

By Danny Kolb

March 16, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

Unlike Wickman, I’m not retired.

By KC

March 16, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Pete H: Aaah, got it. Thanks. Yeah, I will be have to go see There Will Be Blood this week.

No Country was a very good movie, but I guess I can’t help wishing for a more satisfying ending.

I kind of thought Juno should have won best pic… but they almost always lean towards darker fare when making those calls.

By Cecil Upshaw

March 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

Round boy, the closer’s role is mine. Why don’t you and Kolb go eat some cheese.

By Pete H.

March 16, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

KC: Otis owns a high end electronics shop in the Alpharetta Mall. Or did. I wrote a story about it a few years back. I’m pretty sure it’s still there, and he hangs around a lot. Electronics is his hobby, and he makes it pay.

By Rick Camp

March 16, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Hey sorry I missed reporting early - I had some “visa” problems.

Ya’ll looking for a sinker ball pitcher with some 17th inning POP.

Call Me.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 16, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

Even though I’m not much of a basketball fan , hearing about the Georgia Bulldogs winning their way into the NCAA tournament is inspiring.

And they did it with just eight scholarship players.

Dennis Felton probably just saved his job.

By Len Barker

March 16, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Do you have a future all-star CF and 3B that you want to trade for me. I ought to be able lose 14-18 games a season for you, but since I pitched a perfect game I am still sexy. How ‘bout it Frank Wren?

By John Rocker

March 16, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Unlike Kolb I still have plenty left in the tank!

By Larvell "SugarBear" Blanks

March 16, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll should bring me back to play because I have the coolest nickname ever for an Atlanta Braves player - AND I have actually been to the planet LOVETRON.

I also still have 35 packs of Redman Chew that I picked up after they fell out of Darryl Evans pocket.

By Dave Dravecky

March 16, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

I am just about over my injury. Sign me!

By Sonny Jackson

March 16, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Did somebody ask for a mediocre infielder that could steal 2-3 bases a season and not hit. I’m your man.

By TNRON

March 16, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Hats off to Coach Felton and the Georgia Bulldogs! You earned it fellows!

By Mike Lum

March 16, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Did you need a Hawaiian left handed pinch hitter? I can outhit Thorman and I am 65.

By KC

March 16, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Pete H: I’ll probably announce this more broadly a few more times between now and then, but since you live in the area…

Some people from the ole Braves blog are going to be gathering at the Foxsports Grill at Atlantic Station to watch the game opening night (2 weeks from today). You’re more than welcome to join us - as is anyone here. Just shoot me an email at embassypro@hotmail.com if you’re free on the 30th.

By chief nocahoma

March 16, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

As long as the roster spots are up for grabs, what about a job in the outfield? Build me a platform in the visitor’s bullpen.

By Mopie

March 16, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Phil Rogers March 2, 2008 ChicagoSports.com (Chicago tribune)

“The best fit of all for Bonds could be in Atlanta, however, with a hole in left field and Bobby Cox to keep him in line.”

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

I am just about over my injury. Sign me!

That was in extraordinarily poor taste.

By Barry Bonds

March 16, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

‘Roids? I don’t have no ‘roids. My head is a little swollen …okay a it’s a mellon these days, but no ‘roids. The clear took care of my ‘roids. I sure can sit down a more comfortably with the ‘roids under control.

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

Someone need to explain to Mr. Rogers that Atlanta does NOT have a hole in left field.

By Andruw

March 16, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Lasorda and I ate the entire pre-game spread. I was too light in 2007, I need some poundage to help make warning track power into some homeruns. I am a pull hitter, if I can just get my arms past my belly. A real man does not make adjustments at the plate, I make the pitchers adjust to me. No one will dare to throw me an outside breaking ball when I have two strikes, cause I won’t like it. Oh yes, this is my big come back year. Jabba the glut.

By Mopie

March 16, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Baseball Prospectus PECOTA projections, 2008:

Braves win 85 games and finish second behind the Mets.

By woogidy

March 16, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Barry just signed a contract! He has to leave his baggage at home though, so it won’t be allowed in the clubhouse! Man, that Wren is a genius! Think about it, Bonds with no baggage? Perfect fit for that left field platoon/PH role.

By JJMB

March 16, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

Yes, the Dave Dravecky was in incredibly poor taste. I wonder if the poster would like to have cancer eat away his arm? Or anything else in his body? Or in his family. Bad karma, j*******.

By VENEZUELA

March 16, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBb

You have been missing for more than 2 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With this BB RUMOR !!!!!

Please say wether its true or not so we can go to sleep

By VENEZUELA

March 16, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBb

You have been missing for more than 2 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With this BB RUMOR !!!!!

Please say wether its true or not so we can go to sleep

By Lew

March 16, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

I keep hoping we can talk Mark McGwire out of retirement. He’s probably got some pop left in his Andro bottle and plays a credible first base.

By chief nocahoma

March 16, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Please sign Barry. Move the teepee to right and it will be a glorious summer.

By chuckw/deadjournalist

March 16, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Here’s a funny note: If you search “bonds braves sign” on Google, there’s an article from the NY Times about the Braves rumored acquisition of Barry Bonds … in 1992.

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

venezuela, i just got back from the gift shop, and I saw a muscular black dude with a large, bald head and a small entourage walking through the lobby. I didn’t get a look at his face, but….

By David O'Brien

March 16, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

ncscoots: soon as I saw that bracket, I stressed a bit seeing Clemson there. That’s a helluva potential round 3 matchup with KU. The other side of that regional isn’t as tough. Clemson’s the scariest 5-seed in the tournament, no doubt. Might be the best team not seeded 3 or higher in any region.

By Joe Fan

March 16, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

DOB, love the nice words about my Alma Mater. Clemson is gonna make a run!

By John Rocker

March 16, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Lew

I havent heard Big Mac’s name but I have heard Canseco’s. I am hearing a 1 year deal worth 1 million. Braves are also gonna publish his next book in the deal. All this according to Ken Rosenthal.

By chuckw/deadjournalist

March 16, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Ah, the cryptic non-answers … reminds me of the Mark Kotsay pre-trade whispers.

Actually, it’s just like Sekou Smith’s blog the day before the Mike Bibby trade when he knew something was up, but couldn’t say, so he tormented the bloggers on the Hawks’ blog by dropping notes and hints …

So let’s work under the assumption that Bonds signs with the Braves tomorrow. What gives?

If there is a clubhouse that could handle Bonds, it’s the Braves. From Cox to Smoltz to Glavine to Jones … there’s a lot of guys that would demand respect. And frankly, Bonds has wanted to be in Atlanta from a number of years. It’s not a media market like NY or CHI, and frankly, the fan base is one that will accept you if you process. I think back to Gary Sheffield’s ability to fit in here earlier this decade.

On the field, he can still hit. And let me point this out, even as a pitch hitter, he could - could - change the game dramatically. How many years did he spend getting one, maybe two, at bats per game because of teams either walking him or pitching around him. And as a spot starter in LF, he’s not what he once was, but he wouldn’t be the worst defensive left fielder in baseball.

There really wouldn’t be a downside here. Liberty is a short-term owner, and probably could care less about MLB frowning on the signing. The Braves would be only looking for a one-year commitment, so if the legal end of things come up, they would happen - most likely - after the season. If he didn’t produce on the field, he’d be gone. Off the field? I doubt he’d be an issue.

IF, and that’s a big IF, Bonds were to be signed, I’d wonder about Matt Diaz’s future here. As much as I like the guy, his trade value couldn’t be higher than it is now.

But time will tell, even if DOB doesn’t (at least not yet).

By VENEZUELA

March 16, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

DOB

My friend you still leave us with this huge doubt…is there something into all this talk..or is it just blah blah…can u try and check with somebody so this can be set off…

anyways…u should have approached the guy at the gift shop and asked him face to face

By chuckw/deadjournalist

March 16, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Conversely, steroids are bad; Bonds is a bad guy; the Braves wouldn’t stoop that low; etc … and it is all just Sunday afternoon/evening unfounded rumors to pass the time away.

By woogidy

March 16, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

DOB, could it be Ving Rhames?

By John Rocker

March 16, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

DOB

I respectfully disagree with you. Although Clemson is a great team no doubt about it, I feel that Notre Dame is the scarriest #5 seed. I know it sounds crazy but the shooting of the Irish would scare me then any other team.

By dgd

March 16, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

Mike Lum—I still have the baseball I caught from you back at Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium in the early ’70s. Actually, you threw it to me, I dropped it, my cousin Sidney grabbed it, and his mom made him give it back. I’m sure you remember….

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

For all your folks that think there is a possibility that Bonds will sign with the Braves, I have some land in Florida that I want to sell for cheap. And a bridge in Brooklyn. And some beach front property in Oklahoma.

By VENEZUELA

March 16, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

chuck i’d imagine its all talk… dont know the source it came from…but probably its only sunday night talk…

anyways..i started doubting when DOB started talking about it…his answer was pretty lame..there i just forgot about any chance of anything happening

By Austin

March 16, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

chrisklob

Let me get some of that land in Florida.

By N8

March 16, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

chrisklob

On the surface, I totally agree with you and you 10:11 post.

But, I’ve been eyeballing this thing all night, and normally DOB would shoot this thing down (not to mention adding some sort of insult to the whomever posted the rumor)….but ONLY if it is emphatically NOT even close to being true.

I’ve been waiting all night for DOB to do that. He hasn’t.

So until he does so (for I have the respect of his knowledge of all things Braves and he has NEVER stooped so low, as to lead us on over a BS story for this long), I’ll keep my eye on the “rumor” to either be confirmed or denied.

However, the fact that NO OTHER media outlet even has it listed as a possible rumor, makes me think it’s about as bogus as rumors come.

Having said ALL OF THAT, I wouldn’t be opposed to it at all, if he was willing to play for little to nothing and a TON of incentives in his contract.

What’s a more “realistic” thought…..Javy having an impact off the bench or Barry?

They’re BOTH about as equally horrible in the field (no matter what Eddie Perez says about Javy’s “new-found” determination on the defensive side of the ball).

Anyhow, I’ll be patiently waiting DOB.

By chuckw/deadjournalist

March 16, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

As the great Joaquin Andujar used to say (because it was his favorite word), “youneverknow”.

By Austin

March 16, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

I think this is so crazy that DOB thinks this dosen’t even deserve and answer.

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

N8,

If you go back and look at DOB’s posts throughout the afternoon and evening and re-read them I think you will see that they were made with his tongue buried deeply into his cheek.

I could be wrong, of course, and if I am I will hang my head in shame and apologize to the blog, but I don’t see any way that FW signs Barry Bonds to play for the Braves this year or any year. They’d have to take two planes on every roadtrip. One for the team, one for all his baggage. I don’t care how cheap he’d play for, he is just not a Brave’s kind of player. Too selfish. Too many issues. Too disruptive.

Bottom line? Not gonna happen. This was a hoax floated out there by some blogger (Cavemen, I think) that somehow grew some legs.

Caveman is laughing his a$$ off right now.

By chuckaluck

March 16, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Not that I am feeding into this Bonds frenzy, but … just a few quotes from the past …

“He’s always been the best player in the game. Is he the best ever? What do I know? I only know what happened in the nineties. He’s always been a complete player. He didn’t have to hit thirty extra home runs to convince me of that.” - Greg Maddux on ESPN.com (April 9, 2004)

“I don’t know how good Mickey Mantle was, or Hank Aaron, or Willie Mays. But Barry is a great player. And Barry has been a great player. I’ve always looked at Barry’s numbers and been amazed by them. Just now, he’s hitting more home runs, so people are talking more about him.” - Tom Glavine

“Is he better than Babe Ruth? Hell, I don’t know. Who does know? Barry never pitched and won twenty games. I know that. But in his era, there ain’t nobody close. And I mean nobody.” - Atlanta Braves Manager Bobby Cox

By DCbrave

March 16, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Austin- Have you not seen enough crazy thing already in baseball? What is not possible in baseball? It IS strange that DOB has been so vague about this thing.

By divx

March 16, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

I think he’s just messing with us too, even though Atlanta would be one of the better fits for Bonds considering the atmosphere Bobby creates. And a 1.000 OPS from our left-fielders this season would be pretty sexy.

By DAP

March 16, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

DOB Bobby comes over to see him in the clubhouse, looks at Frenchy’s face and says, “No sex tonight.”

bobby is so shallow. dude hurts his face and he doesnt want anything to do with him anymore. sorry frenchy.

p.s. who knew they were so close?

By N8

March 16, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Austin

“I think this is so crazy that DOB thinks this dosen’t even deserve and answer”

You may have a point. But DOB has answered MUCH crazier rumors, much quicker, IMO.

All it would take is one sarcastic post by the blog-master to end this so called non-sense. Yet he hasn’t done it. Why?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I read a rumor today that the Braves are gonna trade Mike Hampton to the Mets for Jose Reyes, David Wright and Johan Santana. Allegedly the Minaya feels sorry for Wren, and wants to “help”.

Now THAT is an asinine rumor (started by me). Barry Bonds signing an incentive laden deal, with ANYBODY (since he is a free agent), isn’t that much of stretch, is it?

Whether Bobby and the Braves would want that BS surrounding this team (I highly doubt it), is certainly up for debate. But I agree with the story from a few weeks ago, that suggested that if ANY manager and organization could “handle it”, it’s Bobby and the Braves.

Like I said, I’ll be less “annoyed” if the Braves signed Barry, than if they WASTE a roster spot on Javy for “nostalgia” purposes. Not a single pitcher (or manager) in baseball is gonna be “afraid” of Javy Lopez coming off the bench. Even at age 352, Barry STILL commands more respect in the batters box.

Add to that, if you think that the Braves have more “integrity” than that, you’re a FOOL to think that there hasn’t been a soul (other than Rocker) on any of the Braves roster that “enhanced” their abilities.

I’ve NEVER been a big fan of Bonds. But the fact that he (and he alone) takes the majority of the blame for the “steroid era”, is just silly, IMO.

What I AM a fan of, is the Braves winning again. If Barry Bonds coming off the bench, gives them a better chance to win, bring it on.

Again. I think this story is BS. But some of you are so naive, if you think the Braves are “too good” for Barry Bonds, when we had a guy named Sheffield (who is more than likely as guilty as ANY of the mentioned “possible” users), man RF for two seasons. I didn’t see anybody b!tching about THAT.

By Jared

March 16, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

It’s the other way around. David O’Brien knows the Braves and Bonds are talking and has been told to shut up about it. He’s in cahoots with Frank Wren and Bobby Cox to keep this thing from getting out until the deal is near done. It’s a conspiracy!

A conspiracy I say!

David O’Brien also has some inside info on the fake moon landing, the second-shooter on the grassy knoll, Elvis Presley’s whereabouts and the relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster.

By Austin

March 16, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

DCbrave

It’s not happening. I would actually be open to the idea. But it ain’t gonna’ happen.

By chuckaluck

March 16, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

DOB is a great beat writer. The good ones — really good ones like DOB — hedge their bets. We are watching a pro hedge his bets.

By N8

March 16, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

chrisklob

“I don’t care how cheap he’d play for, he is just not a Brave’s kind of player. Too selfish. Too many issues. Too disruptive.”

I addressed this in my last post as well (along with the fact, that I too think it’s BS).

But Gary Sheffield was a “selfish” player too. JD Drew was considered a guy that didn’t play through injuries, until Chipper called him out (both in the media and to JD’s face - if memory serves me correctly), then he went on to have the season that allowed him to cash in.

Bobby Bonilla was considered a clubhouse cancer EVERYWHERE he went. Not one negative word mentioned about him in Atlanta.

Listen. Like I said, I think Caveman IS getting a chuckle out of this. I also think that DOB’s responses have been tongue in cheek enough to construe as sarcastically shooting the rumor down.

But to think that if Wren and Bobby thought Barry COULD help this team between the foul lines, in ANY capacity, that they would be worried about his ego, you’re wrong.

Now they might not want the DISTRACTION of his “situation” and court case (not to mention the shadow of the guy’s record whom he broke last year), and THAT would be enough of a reason NOT to sign him, even if his bat could help.

But the SECOND that Bonds (or anybody), does ANYTHING that doesn’t “fit” with the Braves way, they are shown the door.

Just ask Bob Wickman.

By JimD

March 16, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

DOB is VENEZUELA

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

DAP, that was bad dude. At least Random Boor won’t accuse you (like he has of me) of having no sense of humor!

N8 All it would take is one sarcastic post by the blog-master to end this so called non-sense. Yet he hasn’t done it. Why?

He hasn’t squashed this one because the whole idea is completely ridiculous AND because some of the folks here halfway believe it he’s decided to have a little fun with it.

Now THAT is an asinine rumor (started by me). Barry Bonds signing an incentive laden deal, with ANYBODY (since he is a free agent), isn’t that much of stretch, is it?

Yes it is N8. You know, most of the airlines are now charging extra for the second suitcase that each customer checks. Can you imagine the bill they’d get when he checks his 437th bag? Now multiply that number by however many road trips the Braves will make this year.

But some of you are so naive, if you think the Braves are “too good” for Barry Bonds, when we had a guy named Sheffield (who is more than likely as guilty as ANY of the mentioned “possible” users)…

Sheffield can’t carry Bonds jock when it comes to controversy/issues/whatever.

Come on N8, you’re a smart guy. Use your melon and think this one through. It’s not gonna happen.

By timmy

March 16, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Austin, I agree with what you are saying. I am a fan of the Braves winning again, and not just the NL East. In addition to Bonds, who may have been a roid user(want to give him the benefit of the doubt), we have had other roid users on our team without a problem. Players like Klesko, Sheffield and Caminiti. We’ve had players who did more damage to themselves as well. We’ve had drunks(Mondesi), crack(Caminiti) and cocaine(Nixon) users on the team, and have won. These are people who have done far worse things than Bonds is said to have done. Besides, Bobby won’t have to keep him in line, the clubhouse is already veteran filled with Smoltz, Glavine and Chipper. Also, Glavine and Smoltz wouldnt have to face him if he gets signed and is on the team. And for all the Diaz fans, he wouldnt lose any ABs because he doesnt play day game/after night games. He would only be in the field about 6 innings, enough for Diaz and Anderson to get time. He also wouldnt play against lefties, which would allow Diaz many starts. He also would get an automatic walk with runners on in a late game situation. DOB, what do you think?

By rupert

March 16, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

i don’t know if this means anything, but the braves equipment manager has been told to order some size 12 hats

By The Piece

March 16, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Everyone on this blog is retarded.

I can’t believe that anyone here actually thinks Barry Bonds is going to be signed. It’s amazing how you have all now convinced yourself not only that the rumor could be true, but also that this would be a good thing.

I read this blog every day, and am often surprised at the realtively astute insight provided by some of the laypeople (i.e. not DOB), but clearly you all are taking crazy pills.

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

JimD, you may just be right.

N8 *But to think that if Wren and Bobby thought Barry COULD help this team between the foul lines, in ANY capacity, that they would be worried about his ego, you’re wrong.

Now they might not want the DISTRACTION of his “situation” and court case (not to mention the shadow of the guy’s record whom he broke last year), and THAT would be enough of a reason NOT to sign him, even if his bat could help. *

Did you mean to contradict yourself in those two paragraphs?

Dude, you and I both know that there is absolutely, positively no truth to this so-called “rumor”. Let’s all move on.

By N8

March 16, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

chrisklob

“Come on N8, you’re a smart guy. Use your melon and think this one through. It’s not gonna happen.”

Uh…..thanks. LOL!

I know it’s not gonna happen. IMO, if it were going to happen at any point, they would have signed him months ago.

I’m just saying it’s not as ridiculous as some are making it out to be.

“Sheffield can’t carry Bonds jock when it comes to controversy/issues/whatever.”

Come on chriskob, you’re a smart guy. They are one in the same when it comes to controversy. Lets add this up.

Sheff:

A) Intentionally (self admitted), botched plays in Milwaukee, so they would trade him.

B) He alienated himself in the clubhouse in LA, thus forcing a contending team to trade their best hitter to Atlanta.

C) Questioned Joe Torre.

D) Fired and called out Scott Boras, whom most will admit is a A$$, but those who retain his services seem to love him (ask Tex).

I realize the baggage with Bonds is greater, but Sheff is no angel.

By Austin

March 16, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

timmy

I absoluetly agree with you. Winning is the name of the game. Guessing whether people used HGH/steriods dosent bring home a championship.

By JimD

March 16, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

I can just picture DOB sitting there in the AJC house just outside of Lake Buena Vista savoring every moment of this one all the while puffing on a fat one. LOL.

Please folks. Get a life.

And BTW, “The Piece” no one here is retarded … well, except, uhm, never mind. But anyway, most of us have our heads below the clouds and both feet firmly planted. We have not been popping, smoking, or shooting anything. We know the story is bogus.

By timmy

March 16, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

Sorry, I meant to agree with you N8. Remember, Bonilla was a drunk, when he was witht the Mets too. And That is no rumor. I am from NYC, and a Braves fan especially. That part was in the newspapers all the time up here

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

N8, no Shef is no angel, just as Bonilla and Drew werent’ either. But these guys are kindergardners compared to the summa cum laude degree in asshattedness that Bonds has earned.

I’m just saying it’s not as ridiculous as some are making it out to be.

Yes. It. Is.

There is a reason that the home run champion of all time (although not in my book) doesn’t have a job after five and a half months on the unemployment line. Nobody wants him. I’m not saying that he COULDN’T help someone. I’m just saying that nobody is willing to deal with all the extra nonsense.

N8, several weeks ago the Rays were linked to Bonds. It was reported that they were looking at him. Bear in mind that the Rays have never won more than 70 games in a season. They have terrible attendance except for the 18 or so games a year when the Yankees or Red Sox are in town. The Rays, the FREAKIN’ Rays, haven’t signed him. Can you imagine what would happen to their attendance (and the resulting cash inflows) if they brought him in? And guess what? They’re in the market for an outfielder since Baldelli’s probably done. That, in and of itself, should tell you something about the interest in Barry Lamar Bonds around Major League Baseball.

By timmy

March 16, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Austin, thanks man. I just want us to get another ring. This would really cement Smoltz, Glavine, Chipper and Bobby C’s legacy. We always have had great character guys. I want teams to hate us again. But Bonds there and we will have a swagger. Think of a middle of the lineup with Chipper, Tex, Bonds, McCann, Francoeur. We win the series, we have no problems securing Tex for a while. Fans would be here in droves again. Just wishful thinking, don’t want to get that far ahead. If we can get Bonds here, then go for it. Just want to win again!!!!!

By chrisklob

March 16, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

There is a huge difference between “drugs of abuse” (alcohol, cocaine, whatever) and steroids. Drug and alcohol addiction is not a choice, it is an illness. Using steroids is not an illness, it is a choice and it is a choice made with the intent of cheating. You can’t compare guys with genuine problems alongside steroids users. It’s not a fair comparison. People that choose have drug and alcohol addictions have issues that they are trying to escape. PDE users are cheaters.

By timmy

March 17, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

Chrisklob, Bonds doesnt help the Rays, in the long or short term. That is why they didnt go after him. He helps the gate but if they are winning and they dont seem to have enough pitching to do that. Kazmir on the DL isnt helping their chances either. The Rays are young, up and coming. Also, he doesnt fit their needs right now. He would help any of the contending teams out there. Here he makes us even more formidable than we already are.

By N8

March 17, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

chrisklob

“Did you mean to contradict yourself in those two paragraphs?”

I didn’t contradict myself in those two paragraphs.

In the first one, I stated that if Wren and Bobby thought he could help they would “deal with” his EGO (IE: meaning, him wanting a suite on the road, his arrogance, his rudeness with the media, etc…).

Bobby has dealt with those attitudes before, and whether you think Bonds is an a$$ (as I do), or a saint who has been “blackballed”, I don’t doubt for a second that he has enough respect for Bobby, that if he CHOSE to sign with Atlanta, his EGO would not be a problem, or he would be gone (as I said before….ask Bob Wickman).

HOWEVER, Wren and Bobby might not want EVERY OTHER PLAYER on the 25 man roster having to answer questions about Bonds, steroids/HGH, and court cases.

BIG DIFFERENCE in my book.

“Dude, you and I both know that there is absolutely, positively no truth to this so-called “rumor”. Let’s all move on.”

You have been reading my posts and realize that I too think this is bogus, and has little to NO CHANCE of happening.

My stance has been, that it wouldn’t bother ME all that much. As I’ve stated, if you asked me who I’d rather have on the bench between Bonds and Lopez, I’m gonna take Bonds 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

But then again, I don’t have to answer questions about him everyday before I go to “work”. So my opinion doesn’t really matter much, does it? If it did, Andruw would have been traded at the deadline in 2006, and Tex wouldn’t have been traded for (though I am going to enjoy watching him play this year - and wish he would remain a Braves - but just like this Bonds “rumor” see little to no chance of THAT happening either).

By Larvell "SugarBear" Blanks

March 17, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

chrisklob

I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED I SAY - that you would think me such a prankster. And on the Lord’s Day no less.

Have you no shame, no moral fiber, no personal integrity, than to accuse me of such chicanery and glib deception.

Why - a person could lose one’s standing here on the Blog if such a vile thing were to be proven true. I … I … I …I am truly in the dark as to why you would think such a thing?!?!?!

Thanks for getting my back DOB !!!

By N8

March 17, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

chrisklob

I earlier said:

“I’m just saying it’s not as ridiculous as some are making it out to be.”

To which you responded:

“Yes. It. Is.”

I didn’t mean that the RUMOR wasn’t ridiculous, I meant that the “idea” that Bonds couldn’t help us (thus all the references to me rather having Bonds on our bench vs. Javy).

Timmy

Totally agree with your 12:03. What good does Bonds do that team, with the Yankees, Sox and Blue Jays in the same division? As you said, absolutely NOTHING but sell tickets.

Seems to me, he might be able to do the same thing in Atlanta too, right? As you said, bumping revenue can only help sign Tex long-term, right?

Somebody will give him a chance. It probably won’t be the Braves, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t (and possibly haven’t) consider it.

Just as SOMEBODY will give Vick another chance when he gets out.

Bonds did steroids….er….rubbed some cream on himself. Vick killed dogs. BOTH are serious crimes , both legally and for the integrity of their sports.

One guy was a HOF baseball player BEFORE he began “cheating” (if we are to assume that Bonds began using after 98 as has been stated before), the other is a GREAT athlete, who probably was only gonna go to the HOF if he bought a ticket.

Both are hated by MILLIONS of people and fans. But both had loyal fans in their “hometowns” that stood by them. Why is that? Because they gave their teams a better chance to win.

Anyhow, I’ll do as chrisklob has previously asked me to do and am “moving on”.

Goodnight all.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 17, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

N8

Why chase the rats when you can just drop the cheese and wait for them to come??

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

Why chase the rats when you can just drop the cheese and wait for them to come??

As I said, somewhere Caveman is laughing his a$$ off.

Gotta hand it to you Caveman, you didn’t get me, but you sure did stir up a bunch of crap today!

By barry bonds

March 17, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this

I would like to take this opportunity to say I am very excited to be the newest member of the Atlanta Braves. I have always wanted to play for Bobby Cox and the real good front office in Atlanta. Years ago, I almost did come here, but that didn’t work out. So, I’m glad to be here and I hope you will all start accepting me among the other greats who have worn the Braves uniform like Dusty Baker, David Justice, and Jerry Royster.

By timmy

March 17, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

That is a whole other topic for debate. I dont consider drug and alcohol use an illness. You choose to do drugs and alcohol as well. It is your choice and your choice alone to use them. You have a genuine problem when you use PEDs. You are hurting yourself and others around when you use them because you have people trusting you under false pretenses. It is the same. People ridicule and dislike you just the same. They may have some sorrow for you when it is drugs and alchol, but you are still a cheater, because you’ve cheated yourself of the opportunity to being able to handle pressured filled situations without using something to help you cope with the pressure around you rather than relying on yourself

By N8

March 17, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

“Why chase the rats when you can just drop the cheese and wait for them to come??”

I’ll assume your mocking me by making that statement. Of course if you’ve actually read ANY of my posts on this subject (also just trying to stir conversation out of being bored - since I really don’t wanna talk about Francoeur getting hit in the face), you’d realize that I haven’t “fallen” for your silly rumor.

Just found it curious that DOB would “play along” and wouldn’t shoot this thing down pronto.

I’ll tell you why the Braves would NEVER sign Bonds. Because it might actually make sense. But bringing Javy in made “more” sense (wink wink), right? Pena can play multiple positions (none of them very well - but if a “utility guy” was REALLY good at any of his many positions, he WOULDN’T BE A UTILITY GUY), Sammons (?) appears to be a bright young star.

But lets bring in Javy and give him a TON of AB’s in spring. Who’s next? Leibrandt? What, Avery didn’t want to give it another shot?

I’ve said it a few times, I’ll say it again, as per me not wanting to be called gullible anymore (or a rat, if you will)…..I DON’T BELIEVE FOR A SECOND THE BRAVES ARE GONNA SIGN BARRY BONDS. I am however, on record as saying they should check into it.

Period. End of story. If you still “don’t get it”, feel free to sit and chuckle if you must. You’ve fooled nobody. DOB’s silence, made me “think about it” more than your rumor sparked curiosity.

Had DOB not even made ANY remarks (as sarcastic as they were), about this rumor, I wouldn’t have read a word of your posts. 9 out of 10 times, I scan the blog for DOB’s posts, and “back-track” if one of responses interests me.

Such is the case here.

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

timmy I dont consider drug and alcohol use an illness.

I’m going to assume that you are not an expert on the subject. I’m not either, but I’ve read enough about it to know that it is considered to be a disease. I suggest that you do so some reading to or many of the folks here will consider you to be “an idiot”.

If you can’t see the difference in these two issues then you are either very young or not very bright. I hope it’s the former.

By Teddy Jack Eddy

March 17, 2008 12:47 AM | Link to this

There will be blood,it looks like Frenchy is ok though.Glavine is without a doubt the master at damage control as he proved again sunday.Well the season grows near and hope springs eternal,night all.

By nOLIE

March 17, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

No Country was a very good movie, but I guess I can’t help wishing for a more satisfying ending.KC

yeah that was my one quibble with the movie.but still a great flic as is Blood

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 17, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

N8

I was not mocking you. I was commenting about how that Bonds rumor got started. Over the last 2 days I have made example posts about the over-reaction that goes on here on the blog. I even fooled DOB with the first one until he reread it and realized I was joking about Escobar and his contract after he hit the GS. You know-“we only have 3 yrs to try and sign him, can we do it?”. Honestly I saw Franco’s injury as a serious happening ( I have been hit in the face with a slider from a lefty that hit me at 88 mph) After it happened the last thing you want to talk about ad nauseum is that, so I took the opportunity to prove my point of “Blog-o-mania” at it’s finest. DOB having read my last few posts knew what I was doing and played along. At no time did I think that you or KC or chris or any of the other semi-intelligent posters would believe it but the rank and file will turn a match into a BONFIRE every time.

My work here is done.

BTW - Bonds just signed with the METS!!!

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this

HOLY HELL! Bonds just signed with the Mets!!!

This actually makes a lot more sense than Bonds signing with the Braves! :-)

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this

Rupert, no need to exaggerate (11:21 p.m.).

Size 8-3/8, not 12.

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 1:09 AM | Link to this

DOB, I hope you’ve been enjoying the nonsense that is all over the blog tonight.

By JDfromSC

March 17, 2008 1:15 AM | Link to this

wow this is ridiculous! but it sure is entertaining!

By N8

March 17, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

Fair enough. I didn’t mean to yack back at you about ragging on me.

I have to admit, it sparked curiosity. So, kudos and turning an average Sunday evening into some interesting conversation.

I fully expect for the majority of Braves fans to rag on me for my opinion that Bonds could help this team. But so be it.

By me saying he could help, that is different than me actually HOPING they sign him.

I think our team will be fine without him, but you have to admit, the thought of him PH late in a game, is intriguing at the very least.

I know how I will/would feel if WE had to pitch to him late in a game in a tight situation. Just flip it around. Ask yourself the following question:

Tight game, Braves down by 3 runs and two runners on. In an OBVIOUS “3-run HR” situation, would you rather have Bonds waiting in the wings…..or Scott Thorman?

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 1:38 AM | Link to this

I think our team will be fine without him… N8

Yes, but think of the lost potential in jersey sales — Bonds would, of course, be given his No. 25 (has anyone else worn it recently with the Braves?), and then the Bonds 25 jerseys could hang alongside Aaron 44 jerseys in the team store.

By BA

March 17, 2008 1:42 AM | Link to this

Don’t rag on David Justice. If it weren’t for this guy, we wouldn’t have our one ring. Plus, he married the finest piece of tail of the last TWO decades. And drugs/alchohol are not diseases. That’s a bunch of communist liberal crap. Just rhetoric to make everyone feel weak and want wellfare and…next thing you know you’re in a work camp on some farm. And N8, if you are too good to read everybody’s blogs, you should pound sand. Some of the best stuff on here is from these other guys. That’s what makes it a blog.

By JDfromSC

March 17, 2008 1:53 AM | Link to this

wow its too late for all of this. haha. Goodnight and go Winthrop Eagles and Go BRAVES!

By N8

March 17, 2008 2:14 AM | Link to this

DOB

“Yes, but think of the lost potential in jersey sales — Bonds would, of course, be given his No. 25 (has anyone else worn it recently with the Braves?), and then the Bonds 25 jerseys could hang alongside Aaron 44 jerseys in the team store.”

Yeah, because as a guy rooting for his team some 1500 or so miles away, I give a rats azz about which jerseys sell more than the others and what hangs along side Hank’s #44 jerseys in the team store.

I, however, DO care about the pennants hanging around the stadium (that I see on TV), of which seem to be missing the past couple of years (with that other #25 leading the way…..away from the post-season).

:-)

Listen. I’ve been one of the BIGGEST voices on this blog in saying we don’t need to get older, we need to get younger. Which we CERTAINLY have done in the past few seasons.

YOU have stated that the Braves will add the players to make a “run” at the post-season and WS. That they are NOT going to fire sale and rebuild by trading veterans (most of who are 10/5 guys), for young guys. That we traded all that youth for Tex to make a run at the WS last year, with the thought in mind that we might not (more than likely WILL NOT), be able to keep him beyond this year.

Am I wrong on the above statements?

So if this team is trying to WIN NOW, and not worry about the future (a thought process QUITE clear with Texeira in mind - not to mention the signing of Glavine), why on earth would they consider keeping Thorman on the 25 man roster, just because he is “out of options”?

And why is that going to give them a “better chance” at winning NOW, than having a guy (be it an A-hole headcase and PR nightmare), like Bonds on the bench?

Are they trying to win, or are they trying to win?

By Gamecock Brave

March 17, 2008 2:15 AM | Link to this

Oh my sweet god. i have read pretty much every post from today. The Bonds stuff, hilarious. My apartment will freeze over from the cold train of Coors Light going through here before that knuckle head Barry Bonds ends up with the braves. I’d cry if that day actually came.

By Gamecock Brave

March 17, 2008 2:22 AM | Link to this

Oh interesting write up while i went searching for any possible info on this unsubstantiated hoopla…. it was written a little bit ago, but eh, something to chew on, briefly. text to be linked

By BA

March 17, 2008 2:22 AM | Link to this

Report from Mets camp: after throwing four shutout innings in his spring start today, Pedro kicked back and discussed philosphy with David Cone, whether to fight the chicken for dirty money in the third world, or just stay out in the Met’s bullpen and choke the chicken for onlooking fans. Also, Vince Coleman was sighted in Met’s camp, though he has spent most of his time doing lines off the back of the toilet. In Phillies camp, Brett Myers followed seven shutout innings with a vigorous round of spousal abuse.

By HuffBraves

March 17, 2008 2:23 AM | Link to this

DOB, if I didn’t know better, I’d say you were mocking those bloggers taking the Bonds rumors seriously.

By N8

March 17, 2008 2:27 AM | Link to this

BA

“And N8, if you are too good to read everybody’s blogs, you should pound sand. Some of the best stuff on here is from these other guys. That’s what makes it a blog.”

That’s NOT what I said, nor implied.

MOST days I scroll through DOB’s posts (after all it is HIS blog), and NOBODY’S “information” is more important (or accurate), than his.

I have about 20 or so people that I regularly “converse” with on the blog, and a few others that I don’t chime in with too often, but read what they have to say.

Today I was in a hurry, and just read DOB’s posts. The Bonds “talk” sparked an interest, so I backtracked.

Let me know where I said I was too good for the others. I will proceed to apologize. As you should to me for insinuating that I would think that way.

I’m sorry to have given you that impression.

As for the following:

“Don’t rag on David Justice. If it weren’t for this guy, we wouldn’t have our one ring.”

Justice DID have the biggest hit in Atlanta Braves WS history. Let’s not forget without Mike Devereax we don’t get past the Reds in 95…what did Justice do in THAT series?

Also, I’ll always give more credit to Glavine pitching 8 innings of 1-hit ball to arguably the best hitting team in 1995, than I will to Justice for hitting Poole’s hanging slider that missed the target by about 2 feet (watch Pena’s reaction - and glove movement - behind the plate the SECOND Justice made contact).

I actually give Justice more credit for calling out the librarian like fans in Atlanta before that Game 6, than for the hit.

BTW: Justice was 3 for 11 (.273) with 1 RBI in the 95 NLCS. Mike Devereaux was 4 for 13 (.308) with 1 HR and 5 RBI, which is why he was the MVP of that series.

“Plus, he married the finest piece of tail of the last TWO decades.”

Not sure what that has to do with baseball, but it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. BTW, how that marriage “work out” for him? :-)

By N8

March 17, 2008 2:41 AM | Link to this

Gamecock Brave

Like it or not, and I’m gonna assume you “don’t” like the idea by your “I’d cry if that day actually came.” comment. LOL!

But the guy who wrote that article is correct. Whether the Braves want the “hassle” that would come with Bonds is certainly debatable.

But considering the Braves are considering (and leaning towards - according to DOB), giving Diaz the majority of AB’s in LF, Bonds would be a PERFECT FIT for bench duty and “spot” starts against tough RH pitchers to spell Diaz.

MUCH more than using a young guy in that role. I’ve been a big fan in giving Blanco a chance for the past year or so based on his minor league numbers (even without the power). But since when has Bobby had a “kid” on the roster for the bench? If a kid is up, they’re playing MORE than they are sitting. That’s how Bobby does it, and always has done it (if the kid is a part of their future plans - if not they don’t seem to care as much).

Again, I’m not praying or begging for Bonds to join our team. Trying to make an argument that he could/would help on the field. I just want somebody to give me a reason (besides the off the field issues), that he wouldn’t be a good option for our bench.

Of all the teams that guy mentioned in the article that Gamecock Brave linked, the Braves DO make the “most sense” of the “contending” teams.

But, of course, it’s not out of line to say that his “other issues” could be enough to derail a Braves team that ALREADY might be good enough to get in the post-season, and as DOB said, that whole “jersey thing” is obviously a VERY IMPORTANT piece of the puzzle when it comes to winning the WS (as the Braves claim they are trying to do).

:-)

By BA

March 17, 2008 2:45 AM | Link to this

Ok buddy(N8), I take it back. But with all due respect, the Bonds stuff (that my boy Caveman made up) is laughable. Not only would I take Thorman over Bonds, I would take ANYONE(except maybe Woodward) over Bonds. My reason? I want to win now. That dirtbag has never won anything. I don’t want my kids to see that guy in their teams uniform. I agree on Glavine and the ring.

By BA

March 17, 2008 2:52 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah, and here’s an on field issue-the guy can barely walk anymore. All that running around on his wife has taken a toll on his knees. Plus, he’d probably need time off for court. And the other players would be distracted by the sounds of all the true Braves fans vomiting in the stands. Maybe that would stop the mouthbreathers from doing the wave…

By BayAreaSteve

March 17, 2008 3:01 AM | Link to this

Nate:

I’ve followed what you’ve posted tonight, and your meaning behind it. Clearly, the Braves are not interested in Bonds.

But, I’ll posit that Bonds could help at least half the teams in the league, including ours, although I think DH makes more sense.

Owners and GMs must look at the financial benefit, and I think they are extremely concerned with fan reaction to signing Bonds. For me, Tampa, Kansas City, Oakland make sense because no one attends their games now.

Of course, decision makers must also look at clubhouse influence. I think that Bonds would be amenable to regular player conditions, at this point, including a rasonable contract. The legal questions are an unknown.

Additionally, I think the Braves would be intrigued if Mr. Aaron played elsewhere.

By BayAreaSteve

March 17, 2008 3:21 AM | Link to this

Please forgive the spelling.

And congrats to the UGA folks.

Even UGA is too drunk to blog. Now THAT is drunk.

By nOLIE

March 17, 2008 3:30 AM | Link to this

Not only would I take Thorman over Bonds, I would take ANYONE(except maybe Woodward) over Bonds. My reason? I want to win now. That dirtbag has never won anything. I don’t want my kids to see that guy in their teams uniform. I agree on Glavine and the ring.BA

How ‘bout Roger Dodger as our 4th starter?

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 17, 2008 3:44 AM | Link to this

I got this from FoxSports. It’s a list of slogans that teams WONT be using this year:

Hey, you got product, you gotta advertise—

Baltimore Orioles The aquarium is just down the street, why do you ask? Boston RedSox Fenway or the Highway New York Yankees Burnin’ Down the House (That Ruth Built) Tampa Bay Rays Fish Free Since 2007 Toronto Blue Jays We don’t need no stinking playoffs

Chicago WhiteSox We’ve lost that Guillen feelin’ Cleveland Indians Ignore the hat, we’re not racists. Really. Detroit Tigers From Ty Cobb to Gary Sheffield Kansas City Royals No pressure baseball. Minnesota Twins Thanks for the new stadium, now beat it.

Los Angeles Angels Say, you’re not using that outfielder are you? Oakland Athletics Keep your eye on our OBP and listen closely to the sound of my voice. Seattle Mariners Japan’s team….and yours. Texas Rangers Can Nolan come out and play?

Atlanta Braves New and improved with 50% fewer Jones’. Florida Marlins Go, fish! New York Mets I’ve fallen and I can’t get up. Philadelphia Phillies You wanna piece of us? Washington Nationals The place to be in DC (and $5,483 less than Spitzer paid)

Chicago Cubs Teddy Roosevelt, why do you ask? Cincinnati Reds The big dead machine. Houston Astros Our wives are now HGH free! Milwaukee Brewers Is it our turn yet? Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball’s road kill. St. Louis Cardinals Our manager’s a lawyer. So sue us.

Arizona Diamondbacks It’s a dry heat. Colorado Rockies We’re far above see level. Los Angeles Dodgers First we get Torre, then Seinfeld. San Diego Padres Where home runs go to die. San Francisco Giants McCovey Cove to Bonds Bay to Molina’s Marina

By BA

March 17, 2008 3:55 AM | Link to this

Caveman, you’re killing me! This just in from Mets camp: Moises Alou is so worried about his current injury he has actually wrung the urine right out of his hands. Meanwhile Piazza is working on a reality show where he teaches catchers stuff like how to clean their house, how to dress, and how to troll the ny “alternative lifestyle” clubs without getting caught!

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 17, 2008 4:23 AM | Link to this

This is a true story:

I am a right handed batter in my baseball league and I bat in the 5-hole spot. I’ve led my team in HR’s 5 out of the last 10 yrs.
I can hit - for our league that is and I’m a big guy - 6’1” 235lbs power hitter.

I got hit in the face by a left handed pitcher with an 88 mph slider. ( they had a gun on him the whole game) They ball caught me right in front of the ear flap and left me with a bruise on my cheek and neck the size of a softball. I’m in the dugout and the usual talk is going on - half the guys are concerned and the other half are trying to make a joke out of it to get a laugh.

The coach walks over and says that’s it was the nastiest bruise he had seen ever and the dugout got real quiet - then my best friend says from the other end of the dugout that he heard the pitcher was gay so technically it could be a HICKIE !!!

I was the loudest laugh we had in the dugout all year.

By Runnin

March 17, 2008 5:39 AM | Link to this

I think the writers must be on strike again.

By Dan Patrick

March 17, 2008 6:21 AM | Link to this

Braves have signed Marion Jones as a fourth outfielder/pinch runner.

By Capt. Caveman (the original dawg)

March 17, 2008 6:29 AM | Link to this

Wake UP DOB-y Gillis

I know LEW knows that name. Anybody else.

Later Today — Another Breaking News Story — that somebody will believe.

By timmy

March 17, 2008 7:13 AM | Link to this

chrisklob, I am not very young nor very stupid. I think I’ve seen enoguh in 31 years of life to realize what is an illness/disease. It still comes down to choice. You choose to do alcohol and/or drugs. You don’t contract it, it’s not hereditary. You can see family members or friends who get into it but you still CHOOSE to follow that path. That belief or sentiment doesnt make sound like an idiot nor ignorant to those who suffer from the ability to not have self control over their habit but all in all, you choose to do drugs and alcohol like everything else in life.

By maynard j crebs

March 17, 2008 7:17 AM | Link to this

The many loves, thereof …but can doby ph or does can he carry Sir Cranium’s jock?

By Bryan

March 17, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

“drugs and alcohol like everything else in life.”

Its not like everything else - its a chemical addiction.

By lew burdette

March 17, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this

timmy guess your answer to chrisklob is “both”. Your ignorance is remarkable in this day and age. Hope you never have on on loved one afflicted, as you will not be of any help. How’s that stick up your. A$$ feeling?

By nOLIE

March 17, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Wake UP DOB-y Gillis

I know LEW knows that name. Anybody elsCapt Caveman

Sure, one of my favorite shows when I was in the 8th grade, but it was spelled Dobie. Tuesday Weld, Warren Beatty, and Bob Denver(what a cast huh?) backed Dwayne Hickman. Got me interested in Rodin too. “I’m gonna kill that boy.”

By timmy

March 17, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Lew Burdette, Again you choose to drugs and alcohol, don’t you? You choose! It is a choice. You can choose not to do them. My “ignorance”, as it was put is not remarkable. I have watched enough of my surroundings and life experiences to realize this is a choice. I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject. Once you lose your self control over your habit, then it is a problem. That makes you an addict not have an illness/disease. HIV/AIDS, is a disease. Alcoholism and drug abuse is an addiction. You can stop being an addict at any time, you can CHOOSE to stop. You can’t choose to stop having AIDS. I am again entitled to my belief/opinion. It doesn’t make me ignorant. And again, being almost 32, allows me to have seen enough to stand firm in my beliefs. I have read plenty and watched enough family members not be able to overcome their addicitions to drugs and alcohol. And again, you can’t help those who CHOOSE not to want to be helped. Get it together before you speak so ignorantly yourself, Lew

By Yoda

March 17, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is…

Well, not really, Timmy’s childish, simplistic, inexperienced, judgmental, holier than thou, sanctimonious views are pretty pathetic

Timmy, any chance your last name is Spitzer?

Judge and prosecute all you want. Someday, you will need understanding and forgiveness. If you never extended any, none will be extended to you in return.

By richbrave

March 17, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

DAVID O’BRIAN:

I think everybody decided a time-out from reality was needed. What the He$$’s going on in baseball? Thanks for the Prado info. Your article on James said he “GUESSED” his shoulder was O.K. Have you anymore on that?

By Steve McP

March 17, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Timmy

Your and idiot

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject. timmy

That’s fine. But does that also mean you prefer not to listen to those who ARE experts on the subject? Just wondering.

By Bryan

March 17, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

“You can stop being an addict at any time, you can CHOOSE to stop.”

This is not true… sorry … i know it “feels” right to you - but based on everything scientists and psychologist know about the human body and mind - you are wrong.

No argument, really, i guess i am writing this so you will think about your world view which is flawed and incorrect.

By Jon

March 17, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Yes, but think of the lost potential in jersey sales — Bonds would, of course, be given his No. 25 (has anyone else worn it recently with the Braves?), and then the Bonds 25 jerseys could hang alongside Aaron 44 jerseys in the team store. David O’Brien

You were being sarcastic right? :) I know you know that Andruw Jones wore number 25.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Later Today — Another Breaking News Story — that somebody will believe.Capt. Caveman

I think you should raise the level of implausibility, as a test. Roger Clemens, perhaps?

By Bryan

March 17, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Ohh and i have the new REM … its really good … really really good.

I wish there was more of a diversity of sound on the album (a few well written and played slow songs would be nice - think Automatic for the People).

The album sounds like a band getting back on the right track… i don’t think they have overcorrected with the rock sounds - but i do hope their next effort (which should be sooner than expected) will have a more diverse sound.

Think Monster meets Document…

By Kenny

March 17, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

If you seek to be taken seriously as a man, perhaps go by Tim or Timothy. Timmy is not becoming of a grown man.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

You were being sarcastic right? :) I know you know that Andruw Jones wore number 25.Jon

Here’s the thing: sarcasm works best when you don’t spell it all out. Sort of like pranks. Ask Capt. Caveman about that.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Richbrave, Chuck’s scheduled to throw tomorrow in a minor league game on the off day (it’s his regular throwing day, four days’ rest since his first start). If I remember to check, I’ll ask today to make sure nothing’s changed.

By 18 Wheels of Love

March 17, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Bryan, thems big words when you mention anything close to Document. You sure you want to put the bar up that high?

By William

March 17, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

DOB Any updates on Francoeur?

By McFann

March 17, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Whew, made it! Looks like I missed all the “excitement” yesterday!

ippississiM—

The reason I may not be around much—if at all—on Sundays is because my family thinks that we should take a little break from the computer and TV on Sundays. Of course, there are exceptions—like, don’t think I didn’t look in on y’all yesterday, trying to get some news on Francoeur—and of course, EM:THE is on Sunday nights, and I’m sure we’ll still watch the Braves (can’t go without them on Sundays, cann ya?). But it’s mostly the computer—but I’ll try to convince them to let me blog a week from Sunday…

But dang…I turn on my radio around 1:30 yesterday, and Chip says, “…Gregor Blanco, who took over defensively for Francoeur…” and I’m like, “Oh crud…what happened…?” So I come downstairs and wait for them to talk about it. Well, they finally say what happened, but we didn’t hear where he got hit. I get on here, and find out it was the face. Made me remember that 2004 thing, and I’m thinking, “Crud! He can’t be out long…” Then I find out it was only cuts on the “lower left lip”. Whew!

True story, folks.

By AdirondackDave

March 17, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

DOB — Will be at the Jupiter game today. You mentioned the good BBQ sandwich. Is it lean? This geezer’s doctor insists… Who’s pitching after Hampton? Thanks.

By bryan

March 17, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

18 Wheels,

I was trying to describe the sound … not compare the product.

While you bring up document, though … it’s not in my top 5 REM albums. I love it. Document and Green just don’t do it for me like some of the earlier work. Both have their moments, but compared to the first four albums in their cannon, just don’t like them as much.

I resisted comparing this new album to Life’s Rich Pageant (which a lot of folks who got the advanced copy have done) which is one of my favorite … and it sounds nothing like Murmur, Reckoning, Fables, Out of Time, or Up. All classics in my opinion (yes, Up is a classic REM album - though also not in my top 5).

By DAP

March 17, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

chrisklob

There is a huge difference between “drugs of abuse” (alcohol, cocaine, whatever) and steroids. Drug and alcohol addiction is not a choice, it is an illness. Using steroids is not an illness, it is a choice and it is a choice made with the intent of cheating.

i think i get what youre saying here, chisklob, but i have to say something…drug addiction might be considered a “disease”, but you dont become an alcoholic from someone sneezing on you.it involves a choice.

i do feel for people who have an addiction and are trying to conquer it, but i dont feel as sorry for people who make themselves sick, as i do for people who just get sick.

this doesnt have anything to do with steroids, i agree its a different animal.

By flange1

March 17, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

bryan,

Thanks for he REM review. It is good to hear that it’s a good record. I am looking forward to it’s release!

Caveman,

Interesting day yesterday. Thanks for the drama!

N8,

I agree with your logic, the Braves need to consider all options to improve the team.

Past Players,

Thanks for joining the blog yesterday, it was good to hear from you. I missed Bob Horner not wanting to come back an be Chipper’s backup. Maybe Darrell Evans can come back and they can compete for the BU roll……..

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

AdirondackDave, lean? I wouldn’t describe it as lean. It’s pulled pork, with plenty of sauce. If it was lean, probably wouldn’t be able to tell looking at it with the sauce on it.

I know one thing: It’s good. They also have the big Flinstones-looking BBQ turkey legs at the same concession, beneath the stands behind home plate. I’m sure that’s lean, if you need to go lean….

William, at 9:48 a.m., are there updates on Francoeur? You mean, like, he made it back to Orlando on his drive last night safely?

By timmy

March 17, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Yoda, I am saying it is a choice you make. My mind is not any of things you have opinionated it to be. I have read extensively on the subject. There is nothing you can take medically to stop being an addict. That isnt a disease, either. Many people can fancy as it as a disease but it is not. I would choose to help someone who wants to be helped. I am not any of the things you have said nor do i think that way. I am only saying this is a choice we have and it is up to us to choose. I wouldve gladly them if they wanted help themselves. When i saw them that way. I’ve had family and close friends who were addicts. Some still are. As a teenager, I see 15-16 yr olds, at the time drinking heavy, smoking drugs. I went to AA meetings with addictsI decided to do a lot of reading, and I came away from that with the understanding they chose to abuse drugs and alcohol. And from what they told those chose to abuse drugs and alcohol. They said there isnt anything that can be clinically done to stop before they chose to stop it themselves and then get help, after they hit rock bottom. So, this where I get my information from: former addicts. Remember, each case is different and according to them, this is how they feel and they enlightened me a little more on the subject. I am no expert nor do I want to be in this matter because all in all it is an unfortunate situation to put yourself in.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Braves are wearing their green caps today. I see a bunch of ‘em coming out of the clubhouse.

By flange1

March 17, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Timmy, DAP, chrisklob, others,

The discussion about drug and alcohol dependancy being a choice or a disease is a difficult topic. I have had family members with dependancy issues and ALL of their doctors have vigorously defended the concept that dependancy = disease.

I will agree to a small extent that the BEGINNINGS of any dependancy are a choice, the subject must decide to take the first drink or drug, but after that first experience, the doctors indicate that the subject DOES NOT have a choice about continued usage.

I don’t want to beat this subject into the ground, but I do believe that all of us non-addicts need to try to understand that addiction/dependancy is a vicious problem that is very difficult to overcome and in fact almost impossible to overcome without treatment.

I agree that steroids are a completely different matter.

I shall stand down from my soap box :)

By William

March 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I’ll take that as a no. Thanks.

By Lew

March 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Cavewman-Any truth to the rumor that you married Zelda Gilroy? How’s that for a good Irish name this fine St. Patrick’s Day?

By timmy

March 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

DOB, my original post to you was that in both instances, was whether you were cheating those around by usindg PED’s or real, actual serious drugs? It has spawned into something else. More than it should be.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

To go along with Bryan’s reviews of “Accelerate,” I’ve been listening to the new REM album as well. DAMN good.

Bryan says Monster meets Document…I’d agree with that. I’d also say that the distortion/hard alt-rock aspect of the album is more New Adventures than Monster — Monster, to me, seems more of an intentional attempt at rocking, New Adventures seems to have come more natural…there are also a few Automatic For the People moments, I think. A couple of songs sound like they could’ve fit well on that album, yet at the same time they blend with the rest of this album very smoothly.

Definitely the best REM album since New Adventures for fans of rock-REM, and very, very refreshing and welcome after “Around the Sun.”

One of the coolest thing about this album is the surprises in song structure — quite a few times, the song ends when I wasn’t expecting it to. “Houston” ends after the bridge when I thought it would’ve kept going for another verse. “I’m Gonna DJ” ends when I thought there was at least another minute or so left.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

One more note about the REM album: I’ve already heard most of the songs from either the Dublin recordings, ninetynights.com, or the radio show they did last Thursday. I’ve got to say, hearing all of these songs in the context of the album makes them a lot better. “Supernatural Superserious” is a great single, but is much better hearing it along with the rest of the album. Same goes for a lot of the other songs.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Flange1, thanks. You put the soapbox to good use when you make that much sense….

William, correct. A no. The team is just arriving, the PR man not yet out on the field or in the pressbox. And I’m not expecting any updates until later today, since there was no rush for Francoeur to see whoever he’s going to see (dentist, probably) in Orlando. There’s no game tomorrow, so earliest he’d possibly return is obviously Wednesday.

If I had to guess, I’d say more like Friday or the weekend. But who knows? He might talk his way back in there sooner.

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

flange,

I will agree to a small extent that the BEGINNINGS of any dependancy are a choice, the subject must decide to take the first drink or drug, but after that first experience, the doctors indicate that the subject DOES NOT have a choice about continued usage.

I was just about to respond to DAP with something along these lines, although probably not as succinctly as you did. Thank you.

By ncscoots

March 17, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Disease or choice…this has been up for discussion on the blog before, more than once. And I think the only consequence of it was the determination that you have little chance of changing minds on the issue, either way. Best to let it go and return to discussing utility infielders, I’m guessing.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Daybed, Brian: I’m outta the loop on the new REM, having been down here and not getting any advance copy from my record-store-owning friend Don. It’s not out until Tuesday, right? or did I completely miss that? Can’t wait to hear the entire album. Daybed, you’re right about New Adventures in Hi-Fi: Totally underrated, strong album….

DOB, my original post to you was that in both instances, was whether you were cheating those around by usindg PED�s or real, actual serious drugs? It has spawned into something else. More than it should be.Timmy

Yeah, that’s what happens when you speak like you’re an authority about a very sensitive, personal issue with which many of us believe you know little or nothing about. Notwithstanding your claims to have gotten your info from inside the rooms (AA and/or NA) and from former addicts. Sorry, but with your views on it, I can’t buy that.

But you’re certainly entitled to your opinion. That’s the last I’ll say on the subject, since we beat it to death here many months ago in one memorable two-day period.

By William

March 17, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Thanks DOB.

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

By the way, Cardinals are on the main field having a simulate game right now, full on with fielders, runners, etc, Lohse pitching for one team and a minor leaguer for other.

Braves are standing out in left field, waiting for them to finish. They look none too pleased for the delay (Cardinals are even using both dugouts). Be interesting to see if Bobby has anything to say about it here in a bit.

… As I wrote that, Braves ran into center field out by the warning track, to begin warming up. Someone had told me earlier Braves could go to backfield to prepare, and I said, uh, no, I don’t see that happening.

By MGL

March 17, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

MLB Trade Rumors is treating the Bonds discussion as a serious rumor.

By chrisklob

March 17, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Scoots, good advice. Let’s move on.

By TexasBrave

March 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

DOB - Could you (or have you done) a story over who is involved, weight of involvement, thinking going into making the final cuts of who will be on the 25 man roster?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

DOB , heard any trade rumors ?

By Tim Dierkes

March 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

I’m dumb, sorry ‘bout posting that as serious for a few minutes. I should’ve read more closely.

Tim from MLBTR

By Bryan

March 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Daybed,

I chose to compare it to Monster because it is one of a handful of REM albums dominated by one sound … like Monster.

Accelerate, Monster, Out of Time, UP, and, to a certain extent Green all have a very specific sound when compared to other, more diverse REM albums.

I agree with the ease at which they rock like New Adventures … i just wish there was a Electrolyte or How the West Was Won on Accelerate …

I would give the album an A-

My favorite moments on the album occur when Mike MIlls chimes in and provides his awesome back up vocals! (like the end of Man-Sized Wreath)

When is that dude going to get his own song again?!?! When was his last solo song? Near Wild Heaven?

By TJ

March 17, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

FYI, I was doing my morning baseball reading, and a few minutes ago, the “Bonds to Atlanta” rumor showed up on mlbtraderumors.com! They didn’t give it a lot of credence, but they didn’t acknowledge it was a just blog chatter, either. There was one comment - saying that it was a joke and shouldn’t have made there site. When I refreshed the page, the article was gone… guess they realized it was pretty lame as far as “rumors” go.

For a moment there, it seems, Caveman was a national muckracker!

btw, DOB, Flange, etc right. Timmy, wrong.

By DAP

March 17, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

flange1 I will agree to a small extent that the BEGINNINGS of any dependancy are a choice, the subject must decide to take the first drink or drug, but after that first experience, the doctors indicate that the subject DOES NOT have a choice about continued usage.

i agree. those people lock themselves in a prison and cant get out without alot of help. thats why alot of addicts find God…because they are searching for a way out, and no human, including themselves, is strong enough to get them out alone.

like others have said already, im not an expert on the subject, (dont have my masters or PhD) but i did study psycology/counseling in my undergrad, thus i read tons of material on the subject of addiction.

youll find in almost every area, and especially psychology, that “experts” can all differ, and you will probably be able to find an expert to back up every different position. if it were me, i would differentiate between “addiction” and “disease”, because using “disease” takes away the accountability of the individual, which many therapists find critical, especially those using gestalt therapy.

however, it doesnt mean i have no compassion for those trapped in addiction, because we have all locked ourselves in prisons that only God can get us out of.

like mitch hedberg says…”they say alcoholism is a disease, but its the only disease you can get yelled at for having!” :-)

By Braveheart

March 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Did the Sonics really score 116 points yesterday and lose by 52 points? Wow.

By Halberstram

March 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

DOB, so what are your thoughts on the lineup? Do you think yesterday’s lineup is where we’re heading with Johnson/Escobar at the top and Kotsay in the 7 spot?

Also, how about the Dawgs this past weekend. Definitely one of the more improbable basketball stories of the past few years.

By richbrave

March 17, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

DAVID O’BRIAN:

You were discussing pork BBQ about an hour age. When you visit eastern N.C., and if you like NC style vinegar-based meat, I really do recommend Ralph’s in Weldon. It’s a growing business, and when that extravaganza N.C. Jamboree hits town I know it will change. And those types of changes are normally not for the better. So I would visit while its still relatively down-home.

By DAP

March 17, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

ok! sorry guys! on to baseball….

By Braveheart

March 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Since it is St. Paddy’s Day and apropos considering Timmy’s topic du jour, let’s go with an ole Irish classic you should hear at least 5x today:

I’ve been a wild rover for many a year And I spent all my money on whiskey and beer, And now I’m returning with gold in great store And I never will play the wild rover no more.

And it’s no, nay, never, No nay never no more, Will I play the wild rover No never no more.

I went to an ale-house I used to frequent And I told the landlady my money was spent. I asked her for credit, she answered me “nay Such a custom as yours I could have any day.”

And it’s no, nay, never, No nay never no more, Will I play the wild rover No never no more.

I took from my pocket ten sovereigns bright And the landlady’s eyes opened wide with delight. She said “I have whiskey and wines of the best And the words that I spoke sure were only in jest.”

And it’s no, nay, never, No nay never no more, Will I play the wild rover No never no more.

I’ll go home to my parents, confess what I’ve done And I’ll ask them to pardon their prodigal son. And if they caress (forgive) me as ofttimes before Sure I never will play the wild rover no more.

By timmy

March 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

yes, on to baseball

By Lew

March 17, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Hey-Just say no-Or hide your head in the sand. One is as effective as the other.

By DAP

March 17, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

are there any musicians on here who have built their own instruments?

By flange1

March 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Scoots,

So true! Which infielders should we try to get/get rid of today?

By Bryan

March 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Wait - Around the Sun also had a consistent theme as far as an album goes: Every Song Sucked…

(well, not every song, but that seemed like a theme they were experimenting with). “hey, we tried the mandolin album, why don’t we try the suck album?”

Music Recommendation of the day: The Fleet Foxes

Daybed, check out their new EP.

By TennesseePaul

March 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Wow. What a way to break in St. Patty’s day. My personal experience says it is a choice all the way to the end.

The Dirtbags are on a roll after winning their 4th straight series and 10 of their last 11 games. They completed the sweep of USC (“Trojan Chokers”) in a wild one yesterday. Leading 8-2 in the 6th the Trojans mounted a 5 run inning and eventually tied the game in the top of the seventh. Shane Peterson buried the Trojans for good in the bottom of the 7th inning with a grad slam, part of his 3-4 day with 3 runs and 6 RBIs. The Dirtbags finished the game 16-9 to bring their record to 12-3. Long Beach is now ranked #7 and climbing.
Peterson is a fast first baseman with a slick glove. I’ve seen him pick some tough ones over there but yesterday’s performance was just domination from the man. He’s hitting .431 on the season with a .522 OBP and .638 SLG.
Friday’s opener resulted in a pitching clinic by Dirtbag Ace Andrew Liebel who through a 1 run complete game. In 32.1 innings this season Andrew has struck out 36 and walked 3.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

DOB — actually, the album doesn’t come out until April 1. It’s a good one.

Bryan — Yup, you’re right that it’s an album dominated by one sound, although “Houston” and “Until the Day is Done” tend to deviate from that sound the most. After listening to the album just a couple of times, I’d agree on the A- grade. It’s not only a different sound than the recent albums; they could’ve made a rock album that with terrible songs, but these are actually good songs.

The last time Mills sang lead vocals on a song wasn’t too long ago, actually — this past Holiday Package’s single includes a cover of “Merry Xmas Everybody” by Slade. Mike sings lead vocals on that one, and it sounds great.

And don’t forget “Texarkana” either!

By bsj

March 17, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

DOB, Bryan, Daybed, Were you guys aware that you can stream the R.E.M. SXSW show on npr.org? Quality is a little rough at the beginning, but it gets better. They play a lot of new stuff.

Monster is my favorite, and I would agree that Around the Sun is weak overall (“Ascent of Man” is an awesome tune as is the title track) But from the opening chords of Supernatural Superserious (the first song I’ve heard) you know the guys mean business on this album. I’ve wanted them to return here for so long. Ever since Bill left I guess. I can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

By bsj

March 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Mike’s backing vocals can make a song. They lost them the past few albums. I’m ecstatic to hear them on the new stuff.

By bsj

March 17, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

lastly, you guys know when fan club tickets go on sale for the show this summer?

By JMar

March 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB- I just came across a yahoo sports article that says: “Jones had three errors in the first six games this spring. He had only nine errors in 126 regular-season games at third base last year.

A National League scout said Jones looks uncomfortable in the field—as if he is dealing with a physical issue. Jones’ health is a constant concern for the Braves. He has appeared in fewer than 140 games in each of the last four seasons.”

Any thoughts on this, as to how Chipper’s defense has looked thusfar this spring? Last year was his best year defensively, imo; I’d hate to see him regress (or, worse, hiding an injury).

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

DAP: Good post (11:07). And I, too, love that Hedberg line. Remember the first time I heard him say it, was listening to a live CD of his on drive back from Florida one spring training….

OK, gotta write a new blog.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

bsj — thanks for the heads-up about REM on NPR. i’ve seen some ads about it, but didn’t realize what that was. i’ll check it out! thanks!

By Ryan V.

March 17, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

isn’t it good to have a line-up with Matty Diaz in the 8 hole. He can flat out hit the ball! I like the line-up. I’ll admit, I kind of want to see what Lillibridge can do, I like speed. Sometimes I can become enamored with speed more so than overall play. I think we can’t go wrong either way with Lillibridge or Prado… I think this will be a good year for the Braves!

By cricket

March 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

DOB I really hate this thought. But do you think that scary hit by the pitch may have some effect on Frenchy’s decision making about signing the long term deal? As the MLB deals are guaranteed, it does offer the life time security in case something goes terribly wrong.

By VaBravesfan

March 17, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Satan throws pretty good “heat”.

By Seymour

March 17, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Who’s pitching for the Cardinals today?

By David O'Brien

March 17, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

NEW BLOGGAGE IS UP (and Hampton’s dealin’ early, two backward K’s and a groundout in first inning)

By JDfromSC

March 17, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

wow its too late for all of this. haha. Goodnight and go Winthrop Eagles and Go BRAVES!

By JDfromSC

March 17, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

wow its too late for all of this. haha. Goodnight and go Winthrop Eagles and Go BRAVES!

By Random

March 27, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

LAST?

Heh — yeah …