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Mac, Tex struggling — but so what?

Lake Buena Vista, Fla. — Let’s determine the appropriate levels of concern for Braves fans — and these individual players themselves — when it comes to Grapefruit circuit struggles of Brian McCann (.167), Mark Teixiera (.182), Javy Lopez (.176), Scott Thorman (.190) and Brandon Jones (.150).

Those were their averages before Wednesday night’s game. So here we go:

First, let’s exclude McCann and Teixeira from the group, because there’s no reason for anyone to be concerned, long as they’re healthy, which they are.

I’d say their cases are more comparable to Ichiro than to B. Jones. Or haven’t you heard? Ichiro, the Mariners superstar and iconic Japanese hitting extraordinaire, is 0-for-21 this spring. Zero hits in 21 at-bats for a guy who has the major league record for hits in a season (262), the only dude in history to begin his major league career with seven consecutive 200-hit seasons.

Ichiro has hit .321 or higher in seven previous spring trainings, including .429 or higher in three springs. But you know what he told the Seattle Times’ Larry Stone after going 0-for-4 Tuesday?

Ichiro said (through a translator) of his hitless spring and the buzz it’s created among the posse of media who chronicle his every movement: “I don’t understand what I need to be worried about.” He added: “I’m very thankful that people, when I’m not hitting, care so much about this. It’s something that makes me very grateful.”

Perfect answer from a man who handles being a superstar better than anyone in baseball, at least anyone west of Derek Jeter.

As I’ve said before, he’s the player I’d pay to see on a regular basis. Love watching that dude play in the few chances I’ve had, when the Braves went out to Seattle for a series several years ago and at All-Star Games, and of course on Sportscenter highlights.

Ichiro also put into perspective what spring training stats mean for accomplished veterans: Not much. They’re here to “get their work in” and get their timing down and hone deliveries and swings.

(We’re all here getting our work in. Your Crusading Everyman scores early Grapefruit League games with a rollerball pen on the single-sheet generic scorecards they provide in the pressboxes, and only scoring the first few innings when the starting pitcher’s are in, and doing it all with a vodka on the rocks next to my laptop at all times. OK, kidding about that last part. But soon I’ll move to the regulation pencil, then start scoring most innings. But not until we take this thing north will I break out the actual scorebook and begin scoring carefully, every at-bat and every substitution.)

(In fact, the only similarities between covering games now and during the season, for me, is my consumption of huge amounts of coffee and the very funny putdowns exchanged between Mike Hampton and Mark Bowman, almost always about Hampton’s height and Bowman’s weight.)

(Oh, wait. Before we move on, did I ever tell you guys about Hampton’s all-time comeback line, when someone — maybe another player, maybe Bowman, I’m not sure — kidded Hampton about not being able to reach something in the shelf at the top of his locker stall? Hampton replied, “That’s alright, I’ll just stand on my wallet.” I was on the floor. Folks, if you know Hampton and his dry sense of humor and perfect timing, you’d know how funny this was. And you gotta keep in mind the context in which he was saying it, just in case some of you might think he was being arrogant or smug. He really wasn’t. The dude is flat-out funny. Now if he could just reinforce all soft tissue….)

Anyway, back to Ichiro and the Braves’ “slumping” spring hitters.

McCann is no Ichiro, obviously. For one thing, he’s a tad slower. But he is a very good hitting catcher with a smooth stroke and a .296 career average in 1,126 major league at-bats. He’ll be fine. He’s 3-for-18. Big deal. If he goes 2-for-3 tonight and again tomorrow he’ll be hitting .292. That’s how fast averages can rise and fall when it’s such a small number of at-bats you’re talking about.

And Teixeira? I don’t anyone out there is at all concerned about Tex. But if you are, don’t be.

He’s 4-for-22 with five strikeouts and one homer. So what? This is a guy with a .286 career average and 170 homers in five seasons, and more extra-base hits (365) than all but five other big leaguers in that stretch, and more RBI (555) than all but seven others.

Pencil him in for a .300 average, 40-45 homers and 130 or more RBI this season. Just don’t ask me where to pencil him in for next season.

Now, the other cases: Lopez, Thorman and Brandon Jones. Entirely different situations than McCann and Teixeira, obviously, because none of them came to camp with a job won.

Actually, change that. It’s possible Thorman has a job assured unless he’s traded, but I don’t really get that sense (that he had a job won, or that he’ll be traded; I get neither sense. So in this, I guess I’m senseless). I do believe the Braves are trying to upgrade their bench with a more proven big bat, but it’s not an easy thing to do.

They’re not going to replace him with some schlub who’s bounced for years or been in major decline, because there’s still a chance, perhaps a good chance, that Thorman could be a 20-25 homer guy if he gets 400-500 at-bats (which he won’t get with the Braves while Teixeira is here and upright. But you get my point, which is that Thorman might still become a quality major league player. He’s still got unbelievable raw power, but his defense is barely serviceable at first base and I can’t see any team being interested in him as more than a project or bench player, so trading him and getting anything back is tough, and he could very well be snatched off waivers if the Braves try to send him down, unless they’re able to do that around opening day when other teams have their rosters set. Problem is, Braves don’t have another backup 1B they’d trust to play the role for a couple weeks if Tex got hurt. Now I’m rambling, repreating a topic from the other day, so I’ll stop….)

What about Javy Lopez? Hit his second homer couple days ago, which is big. Braves need him to show he’s still got a power bat that would give them a big weapon in pinch-hitting situations, because they’re not going to keep him for his defense, that’s for sure. Yes, it’s better, but he’s still not a good defensive player, merely adequate. And his throwing arm is not good.

But if he gives the Braves a ton more offensive potential than catch-and-throw guy Clint Sammons or journeyman Corky Miller or Brayan Pena (also no defensive standout), well, then Lopez will most likely have the backup job.

Javy is 3-for-17 with two homers. Verdict’s still out, but both Tom Glavine and Bobby Cox had good things to say about him yesterday.

Cox said before last night’s game, when asked about the 37-year-old Lopez’s performance so far: “He looks good behind the plate, and leads the team in home runs.” And asked whether the backup job is still a wide-open competition, he said, “I think so.”

Lopez caught Glavine last night, when the 41-year-old once-and-again Braves lefty allowed one unearned run and two hits in four innings vs. Washington. I asked Glavine about Javy catching him.

“I never had a problem with him,” Glavine said, then smiled and added, “He always hit when he caught me, so I didn’t care about anything else. I liked his bat in the lineup.”

Then Glavine got serious and said Lopez has improved behind the plate and is trying to be a complete catcher now, focusing on defense and working with the pitcher more than he did when the two were teammates before with the Braves.

“He’s matured back there,” Glavine said. “He’s got a better idea what’s going on back there. We probably had more conversations out there tonight than we did during all the years we played together before.”

As for Brandon Jones, well, the outlook has really changed since the end of last season, when it seemed certain he’d be used in a platoon with Matt Diaz in left field in 2007. The Braves’ situation change with the addition of recently injury-plagued Mark Kotsay in center, since they now need a fourth outfielder who can easily slip into center for a significant period, if necessary.

Jones doesn’t do that. He’s only played center in winter ball, and the Braves don’t want him in center field for any significant period.

While Jones hasn’t done much in camp, Josh Anderson has impressed everyone from the first day he arrived. The former Astros prospect can play all three OF positions and has outstanding speed to cover some mistakes he’ll make in the fielde (not to mention give the Braves a legit base-stealing threat — he stole 78 in one season in the minors).

His arm is good enough to play out there, and he’s proven he can hit at every level so far, including a .358 average in 67 at-bats in his late-season callup with Houston.

On top of all this, there’s the Diaz situation. The Braves have discussed it at length, and seem in agreement that it’s time to give Diaz the chance to play every day, or at least most days. I’d be very surprised if he’s in a straight platoon like he was the past two years.

He’s hit .330 with 59 extra-base hits (19 homers) and 77 RBIs in 655 at-bats for the Braves over the past two seasons. It’s time for Matty boy to get a crack at being a lineup regular.

Whew. That was a long-winded analysis. I’ll save the other stuff I was gonna blog about for later tonight or tomorrow’s blog. Got to get to writing this Josh Anderson story for tomorrow’s paper.

Anyone see the Drive-By Truckers last night on by brother Conan’s show? I was hoping they’d crank it up and rock, but I gues they wanted to go the unplugged route. Hey, artists’ choice. Still a solid performance.

”POCAHONTAS” by Neil Young

Aurora borealis

The icy sky at night

Paddles cut the water

In a long and hurried flight

From the white man

to the fields of green

And the homeland

we’ve never seen.

They killed us in our tepee

And they cut our women down

They might have left some babies

Cryin’ on the ground

But the firesticks

and the wagons come

And the night falls

on the setting sun.

They massacred the buffalo

Kitty corner from the bank

The taxis run across my feet

And my eyes have turned to blanks

In my little box

at the top of the stairs

With my Indian rug

and a pipe to share.

I wish a was a trapper

I would give a thousand pelts

To sleep with Pocahontas

And find out how she felt

In the mornin’

on the fields of green

In the homeland

we’ve never seen.

And maybe Marlon Brando

Will be there by the fire

We’ll sit and talk of Hollywood

And the good things there for hire

And the Astrodome

and the first tepee

Marlon Brando, Pocahontas and me

Marlon Brando, Pocahontas and me

Pocahontas.

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By Sean C

March 12, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

man i like these night time spring training games. its much better getting to watch the games than it is to just look at stats.

By Justo

March 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

DOB what up dude nice blog, i like carroll better though lol.

By StingerSplash

March 12, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Second?

This just in — Rocco Baldelli to go on the DL with “fatigue.” Shouldn’t the DL be tired of him at this point?

By scott

March 12, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

DOB

Why not keep Javy as the back up 1st baseman and 3rd catcher? To me that solves a couple issues. I know he isn’t an everyday first baseman but he could fill in for a week or so if need be, I just like having his bat on the bench. I would also like to see Pena or Sammons on the team, which this opens up a spot for them and gives us Javy as an emergency catcher and let him catch a few games here and there.

By i can't take it anymore

March 12, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

has anyone noticed how much b. jones resembles rent(talking about facial appearance)

By nOLIE

March 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

sadly, the chances of us getting ensberg are slim, since we have so many in house options, but hes a real good player, and would be a wonderful backup for chipperDAP

This is the same Ensberg that has a .232 BA over the last 2 years? A great player? Think I’ll take a pass on that one thank you.

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Glad to read that Diaz looks like he will be the full-time left fielder. As I’ve written before, I think the guy is a terrific, professional hitter. Not a power hitter. Not a speed hitter (obviously), but a guy who can work the park, work the count and get his hits. The numbers support that. .330 in 600+ at bats is great in high school. And I think he will solidify a Braves lineup that has been and could again be streaky. Diaz, like Yunel and Frenchy, has show a flair for the dramatic, too. And that’s an extremely important intangible that a lot of Braves hitters have lacked since, well, Mark Lemke. (OK, maybe not that long, but you get the point.) A line-drive hitter who can deliver is far more valuable than a power guy who can’t. I believe one of the latter left during the offseason (Andruw), Hopefully Diaz’s opportunity for full-time status will provide more at-bats in key situations for a guy who can deliver.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

knowitall, in response to your post about gangsta rap. I agree wholeheartedly. I was referring to the worst, crass elements of the genre, or sub-genre, or whatever you want to call it, and just trying to make a point that it’s wrong to lump all bands together under one umbrella and say it’s not a viable music form. Not referring to great acts like ones you mentioned.

I’d put P.E. in my top 20 acts of the past 25 years, and Wu-Tang real close, too. I still remember 20 years ago, the first time I put on P.E.’s first album, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, and hearing that awesome intro “London, England … consider yourself warned!” That was special, man, and you knew it right away. New sound, coming barreling out of your CD player. With the Hank Shockley/Bomb Squad production that was totally original at the time, and still hasn’t been surpassed.

That stuff just blew me away — and it blows away most current one-dimensional hip-hop, in my opinion. With some exceptions, like Immortal Technique and Dead Prez.

I don’t buy much of the stuff today. Granted that’s in large part because I’m getting older and I’m not gonna be listening to stuff that seems skewed toward teens and 20-somethings.

But also, just the lyrical content of most of it these days doesn’t do anything for me. Only so much you can listen to about slangin’ rock and buying rims. Give me the political stuff (and no, not on this blog. don’t give it to me here).

I liked it when those bands were like black punk rock with huge beats.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Anderson definitely has speed, and in the minors he hit for a consistently high average (.270-.300). Still, I worry the .358 gives people unreasonable expectations. He has absolutely no power, and has always had an OBP of below .350, with several years in the .320s. Certainly I’d rather have him than Langy or Willie Harris, but I hope people aren’t expecting this guy to be a huge offensive asset.

By stynes

March 12, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Scott - while the Braves might not mind having Javy play 1st for a game or two a month, they sure don’t want him at 1st for any extended period of time. Thorman is out of options so if they try to send him down they risk another team picking him up on waivers. The Braves don’t have another 1st base prospect. That gives them ZERO insurance in case something were to happen to Tex.

Oh… and as for Javy playing 3rd, you were kidding, right?

By ippi

March 12, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Niels Boor:

What do you think about the Steve Avery/Leo Mazzone connection? I didn’t even consider that as an issue until I started digging, but it is going to be really hard to separate any influence Glavine might have had from Mazzone.

By stynes

March 12, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Scott - while the Braves might not mind having Javy play 1st for a game or two a month, they sure don’t want him at 1st for any extended period of time. Thorman is out of options so if they try to send him down they risk another team picking him up on waivers. The Braves don’t have another 1st base prospect. That gives them ZERO insurance in case something were to happen to Tex.

Oh… and as for Javy playing 3rd, you were kidding, right?

By Choppinmama

March 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

DOB: it really is a small world of large and small coincidences, isn’t it? I was sitting down the row from Pam Cox (and only just discovered from reading your last blog that the cigar stink yesterday was coming from our beloved leader - pyew, uh…peeeyou, uh…pehyu, uh……..STINKY)

Back to coincidences - when my son was home from college one summer, he was helping a buddy with his blinds business. They went to a call in Marietta, and after ringing the doorbell, the door opened and there stood Bobby! He was visiting his daughter’s before heading to the field. Sure surprised my son, the other guy didn’t have a clue. Related the story to Mrs. C, and she pointed out which daughter had the installation done.

By beachcomber

March 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Re: Extra Innings. Was last night’s FSN game available via Extra Innings? I had always had the impression, probably wrong, that Extra Innings was strictly a regular season deal.

Also noticed a comment on yesterday’s blog saying it cost a fortune. Maybe it varies market to market but down here,(west coast Florida) it’s a about a buck a game - small price to have an alternative to Ray’s games.

By fastasballs

March 12, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Anyone going to the opener in DC?

By Jon

March 12, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Hahaha, Dave, are you seriously related to Conan?

By scott

March 12, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

synes… Javy as a 3rd catcher not 3rd baseman. I don’t think we will need a backup at 1st but on occasion, which Javy is more than capable of doing. If we need one long term due to a Tex injury, then we need to make a trade, cross that bridge when we get there.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 12, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

DOB - agreed about the DBT’s performance last night. I love “Two Daughters and a Beautiful Wife” as a song and thought that they did a decent job on the show, but I would’ve preferred another one, like “A Ghost to Most” or “3 Dimes Down” or any of the other rockin’ ones. Oh well.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Lil Wayne is awesome. Check out “I’m Me” for those interested.

Walkmen concert tonight, pretty excited.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Choppinmama, Cox doesn’t smoke cigars that stink. He only smokes the very good ones, and those, mam, do not stink….

Tell me someone didn’t really say Javy Lopez at 3B. Tell me….

By DAP

March 12, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

nOLIE This is the same Ensberg that has a .232 BA over the last 2 years? A great player? Think I’ll take a pass on that one thank you

im disappointed in you, man. you miss alot just looking at his average. he definitely didnt hit for a high average the last two years, but he combined for a .358 OBP, and a .433 slg%. he also hit 35 HR and 97 RBIs.

his poor numbers last year brought it way down, but in ‘06, even though he didnt hit for average, his other stats were really good. he was like adam dunn, struck out alot, walked even more and had an OBP of almost .400

3 years ago, his only year as an everyday player, he hit 35 HR, 101 RBIs and finished 4th in MVP voting.

dude’s 31, and has been hampered by injury the last two years…but hes got skills, and he would be a GREAT pickup hit pinch hit and back-up third and first.(he plays third more than first which is exactly what we need)

would i want him everyday? no, i wouldnt. but having him to pinch hit and spell chipper and tex periodically, id get him in a heart beat if i could.

By Alan

March 12, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Great job, as always, DOB. I don’t normally comment on your song selections, but I really like Neil Young’s lyrics. Pocahontas and Marlon Brando together is priceless. Now back to baseball. I’m with you. No concern about McCann and Teixeira. However, there has to be concern about the others - and all of them have to be worried about their jobs. I don’t see B. Jones making the big club’s roster. Not ahead of Anderson, or even Schaefer at this point. I think Anderson is a lock for the fourth outfielder, and I think he’ll get a lot of playing time in LF and some in CF. Javy still has power, so he’s probably the favorite for the backup C, although his defense (including his subpar throwing) leaves much to be desired. Too bad the Braves couldn’t combine Brayan Pena’s offense and Clint Sammons’ defense. Thorman, too, is shaky. Yeah, he’s got power, but he’s not going to hit for average - he’s kind of a lefthanded Javy. Is this what the Braves want to have on their bench? Once Infante is ready, they’ll have him and Javy from the right side and Anderson and Thorman from the left. Until then, I guess it’s either Lillibridge or Prado in Infante’s spot. I’d choose Lillibridge because he’s more versatile defensively. Maybe the Braves will try to trade Prado, Thorman and a spare pitcher (say, Carlyle) to try to enhance their bench. Just so they try a little harder than last year’s effort that garnered the CW boys, Wilson and Woodward.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Niels Boor

I like the TV commentary, especially when they have certain guest stars (no, not John Smoltz or Frank Wren ; ) ).

But hey, while you’re around and addressing me, I have a Q for you that goes back a couple of blogs: Where did you ever get the idea that I had never seen McCann’s face???

Sorry for the delay, dude, but it just occurred to me how really odd that is.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the new blog , O’Brien. I watch Drive-By Truckers last night and sorry to say , I wasn’t all that impressed. I’ll have to check out YouTube and watch some of their stuff.

Nice job of plugging Ichiro , he is only the best lead off hitter since Rickey Henderson. It’s to bad that he plays in Seattle. Otherwise , more fans would be aware of what an incredible player he really is.

Only eighteen days until the season starts , it’s getting a little late and the bench is still a mess.

Cox and Wren better get on their horses and round up some players.

By Paul In Richmond

March 12, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

“So What” “Big Deal” “He will be fine” These are the type of comments that the Braves make too often. Comments that reflect a lack of fire in the belly. Comments that seem to expect a championship without doing any serious fighting for one.

Then comes the “potential” comments about Braves like Javy who have not produced.

Someone needs to get on this team early. A spark. A fire. A leader who doesn’t saunter into the dugout to nurse a bruise. Can we get something like that?

If we don’t - don’t be surprised if the fans have the same lackadaisical response until the numbers come.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Congrats, Choppinmama!! That’s pretty cool, showin’ your sign to U Kno Who.

By stynes

March 12, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Scott - I misread your comment about 3rd catcher vs. 3rd base. Sorry about that.

What I said about Javy playing first still holds true, though. I agree Javy may be ok playing first once every 2-3 weeks. But what happens if Tex gets hurt?

If the Braves keep Javy AND another catcher then Thorman gets sent down. Since he’s out of options he’ll likely be claimed off waivers. With Tex hurt and Thorman gone, the Braves don’t have another major league ready 1st baseman in their system.

The only option would be a forced trade (you never have any leverage on those which means you end up paying way more than you should) or playing Javy at 1st long term. Neither of those are at all attractive options for the Braves. It just doesn’t make sense.

By Seymour

March 12, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

DOB,

You mentioned Diaz in your blog. I was wondering if you were aware that he has a brother Johnny Diaz who is a recorded Christian music artist? They play his stuff on the Christian stations here in Atlanta (and elsewhere from what I can tell).

Seymour

By scott

March 12, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

DOB… I said 3rd catcher! Not sure why he jumped to conclusions. I clearly stated 3rd catcher in my 1:10 post.

By FJR

March 12, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

wow, just read that Kaz Matsui is out with an anal fissure. No joke, that’s what the injury report says. You would think he would have gotten the trainers to lie….

By Steve McP

March 12, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

I always thought the big issue with Diaz and the Braves was that he could not bat well against left and right hand pitchers, which is why the platoon was used.

Any of you stat guys out there got a breakdown on his performances last season in both situations?

By The Man

March 12, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Not many people thought that either Thorman or Lopez was going to come into spring training and hit for much average. If either makes the Braves season squad I figure it will be for that occasional pop it provides them off of the bench. I personally would rather see Sammons get the nod over Javy.

By sane jane

March 12, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

DOB, any comments on Joe Borchard picking up those two RBI last night to send the game into extra innings?

Where does he stand on the cut list in your estimation?

By FJR

March 12, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

paul in richmond, if you’re referring to ST performances, well then, your and idiot. A) guys are getting their timing down and working on getting their idea of the strike zone refined. They are going to try to work counts a little more so they see more pitches. B) its too small of a sample size. Like DOB said, any of these guys who are slumping could go 3-3 tomorrow with 3 bloop hits and be hitting .300 for ST and we’d be raving about how they came ready to play even in ST. You need about 300 ABs to statistically guage how well a player is hitting with any degree of confidence. A lot of ST BAs are luck and random chance. You look at the kind of swings the player is putting on the ball and what pitches they’re swinging at and ignore the average.

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Glad to read that Diaz looks like he will be the full-time left fielder. As I’ve written before, I think the guy is a terrific, professional hitter. Not a power hitter. Not a speed hitter (obviously), but a guy who can work the park, work the count and get his hits. The numbers support that. .330 in 600+ at bats is great in high school. And I think he will solidify a Braves lineup that has been and could again be streaky. Diaz, like Yunel and Frenchy, has show a flair for the dramatic, too. And that’s an extremely important intangible that a lot of Braves hitters have lacked since, well, Mark Lemke. (OK, maybe not that long, but you get the point.) A line-drive hitter who can deliver is far more valuable than a power guy who can’t. I believe one of the latter left during the offseason (Andruw), Hopefully Diaz’s opportunity for full-time status will provide more at-bats in key situations for a guy who can deliver.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 12, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Javy @ 3B? Somebody is smoking a different kind of cigar!

By DAP

March 12, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

seymour I was wondering if you were aware that he has a brother Johnny Diaz who is a recorded Christian music artist?

i know you were talking to DOB, but i know johnny. he came by the station i work at to play some of his songs for us. ive got his cd, and i like it alot. sounds great, and he has some pretty clever songwriting.

very, very cool guy.

By richbrave

March 12, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Nothin’ to rant about. Play ball. Oh, does anyone have an idea about a mid-seventies fastball from a 13 year-old? Is that ordinary, or exceptional? Anybody. Thanks.

By BA

March 12, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Lopez will see ZERO time at first base. Why would he, when he’s struggling to play his first position? However, his defense looked pretty solid to me last night. The series of secret squirrel signs he(Maddux) used was the reason it was such an issue with Javy before. I’ll bet even our beloved Stalin would have trouble following a series of Maddux signs. I’ll take speed on the bench, thanks. Anderson is electric. And how about that crazy indian pitcher! Acosta looks absolutely HOSTILE, and I love it. Moylan , too- with Soriano we have got some low ball, nasty pitchers at the end of the game. Imagine if Gonzales comes back strong…I think Chuck James grade as a starting pitcher is a C+. As a situational lefty, he’d be an A+. Just a thought. How much a percentage will attendance increase with Lopez back, just on air-headed women alone? He and Frenchy should co-star on a cheasy reality show on Lifetime. By the way, while the Braves (WIDELY heralded as a great example of a major league organization) were winning one in fourteen, what were the Mets doing? How many different managers? How many different G.M.s? How many titles? Oh yeah, NONE. Go sit at the kids table, you mouthbreathing dirtbag Met’s fans!

By Choppinmama

March 12, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

From the end of the last blog:

Hello Denizens. No on the field bp for the team yesterday due to meetings, so I strolled over to the indoor batting cages to watch the guys there. Managed to show The Sign to Chipper, said it was from all of us bloggers, and got a smile and a wave from UKnoWho.

So good to see Langerhans, Pete Orr, Willie Harris and Pat Corrales. Poor Pat, he was taking all the hugs and glad hands over behind the batting cage ‘cause he is hardly able to hobble around on that bad leg. He’s using a bat for a crutch and said he had off-season surgery again on that knee. Even with Bobby’s knee replacements, he and Pat don’t have 2 healthy knees between them.

Saw umpire Joe West before the game and said “hey look, it’s the Naked Gun movie star” - he replied “I’m still getting residuals from that movie.” He was so funny after the 11th inning, Bobby, a few umps and a few of the Nats coaches came out on the field, and it looked like they were discussing let’s go 12, but Joe was already waaaay out in centerfield and going through the gate to the parking lot. No residuals for him for extra innings!

DOB, you looked a little restless up there on the 2nd row after 9, I saw more than a few yawns too!

All in all, a satisfying game once the non-roster and non non-roster guys took the field and put a couple of runs on the board.

OK, I’m taking my horrible head cold out to the field for one more game tonight, then I’m hanging up the spiked sandals for this year’s ST.

By BravesAC

March 12, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

DOB…Conan really your bro? If so, around the Thanksgiving table, who’s the comedian, him or you? And speaking of turkeys, how can Philly feel fine about their arms or the Mets about there NY lineup (no, not the gov, the one with bats)… don’t you think the Braves really look better? By the way, any word on the Braves Rasmus (St. Louis’s top prospect’s bro)….he went down all of last year with arm trouble. Can he join the next crop of Rogers, Everts, etc. this year?

By Tomahawkin

March 12, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Nas Said it best, Hip Hop is dead, It died in the early Millenium, when “Romper Room” Rap came into existance with the likes of pop-tart garbage rappers like 50 cent

But D.O.B. I went to youtube just to watch some of the classic videos from artists like Queen Latifah, Camp-lo, Cypress Hill, and even old Doug E. Fresh, and those videos were classic, there are a couple where there is no mention of the narcisscistic crap that you see/hear in the music today, its just mad crazy of what kind of image the Genre reflects as compared to 15-20 years ago…

As far the braves subject matter, I usually do’nt say much on S. Training, because the games don’t mean much, But I noticed that we are Primetime on March 31 on ESPN, Since its only a one day trip **D.O.B. are you going to fly with the team up there to see the Nats new Digs? I know it is already a greater experience than the Old RFK, just from looking at the pictures…

By rupert

March 12, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

DOB, A few weeks back you mentioned the braves breaking out some blue alternates, have you heard anything else on that front?

By StingerSplash

March 12, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

If anyone wants a good laugh at U Know Who’s expense, check Gene Wojciechowski’s piece on the Topps card photographer and the sampling of his work on Chipper circa very early 1990s. “Hoss” … I can’t call him that. Just can’t …. Chipper has come a long way in the wardrobe department.

By Tron

March 12, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Neil Young is a pinko Commie b*******. That is all.

By Vinny Vegas

March 12, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Sure Bets: (1)Thorman will not win the N.L. batting title. (2)McCann and Tex will come around… no need to worry.(3)Ichiro won’t start the regular season 0 for 21.

By nOLIE

March 12, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

im disappointed in you, man. you miss alot just looking at his average. he definitely didnt hit for a high average the last two years, but he combined for a .358 OBP, and a .433 slg%. he also hit 35 HR and 97 RBIsDAP

well, lots of times I’m disappointed in myself so I can certainly understand how you might feel that way. You make some good points, but honestly .230 BA two years in a row is just a little too low for me. Makes me worry about why it’s so much lower than it used to be and if it’ll go even lower. certainly better than Hessman or Marte though.

By The Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy

March 12, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Wow DOB,

I saw the DBT performance last night and I agree: good performance of a really good song, but not one to catch the eye (or ear) of a new listener. That’s their 3rd Conan performance and they played straight ahead rock on the first two (Never Gonna Change and Aftermath USA) so I was expecting something a little different.

With all that said you just effectively took the new DBT c.d. out of my truck by posting Pocahontas. I’m breaking out NY Unplugged to hear that song as soon as I get off work, now.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 12, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Scott — yes, you did clearly state “3rd catcher.”

But you’d want the Braves to carry 3 catchers? Javy’s being considered for the backup catcher’s spot, not backup 1B. If they tried to have him work out at 1B, well that’s time that he could be spending working on throwing down to second or practicing behind the plate. They’ve said that he could play 1B here and there for a few innings or a game, but I don’t think they’re considering him for 1B backup. If they did that and that’s the plan, then if Tex goes down for any period of time (knock on wood), they’re stuck with Javy at first.

Giving spots to Javy AND Sammons/Pena would mean that someone else isn’t getting a roster spot. Whose spot would you propose he take? Thorman (DOB, could you remind us if Thorman is out of options? kidding)? A bullpen spot? Backup infielder? Not a good idea. Pena and Sammons aren’t that good all-around to justify giving a roster spot just because they might be good as the backup catcher during the season.

Personally, I’m a bit worried that Javy is going to win the spot but then won’t hit well in Atlanta. Don’t know why, but I think that his 3-for-17 mark so far is telling. And aside from the homer he hit the other day, he’s been starting the games and not being a late-inning pinch hitter, so he’s facing major league pitchers whom he’d be facing during the season. In those at-bats, it doesn’t look like he’s been doing well.

I hope that I’m wrong and he plays a part in helping Atlanta this year, but, personally, I’m a bit skeptical.

By Shaun

March 12, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

This is the problem with Spring Training, teams make roster decisions on the basis of what they see in less than a month’s worth of playing time (in some cases much less than that).

However, a lot of times there’s no other way to do it.

By Anders

March 12, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Not sure if the rumor from Met camp hit this blog yet but Ed Coleman (I’m sure you know him DOB) reporting a possible Pagan for Coco Crisp trade.

By sane jane

March 12, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Shorts and a long sleeve shirt tucked in… with a braided belt (looped at the end as an added bonus!)

SO HOT!

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

All this talk about Javy playing 1B in a backup role… Nothing I’ve seen has said he has been taking ground balls and working at 1B at all. Wouldn’t you think if that was really a solution that he would be groomed some of the time for that role. Heck, he might not even have his 1B mitt in camp with him. I think he has a 50/50 make the team, but as a PH/C not as a C/1B. It would beg the question, though, if Javy is your ninth-inning HR PH, and Diaz is in the game, who catches the 14th inning when McCann twists his ankle? I always preferred having 3 catchers, as long as one of them is more versatile. So Pena still may prove himself in that mix.

By The Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy

March 12, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Coach

Like I said in my previous post, the DBT song you saw was not a good one to reel in new fans. I suggest you try these songs and if you don’t like them, then DBT might not be your thing:

Where the Devil Don’t Stay

Angels and Fuselage

When the Pin Hits the Shell

Decoration Day — even though Isbell isn’t with the band anymore

Zip City

Women Without Whiskey

By BA

March 12, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Classic white people routine to act like the only good rap music was from twenty years ago.

By Scott Thor-FAN

March 12, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

“does anyone have an idea about a mid-seventies fastball from a 13 year-old? Is that ordinary, or exceptional?”

Much better than ordinary but not exceptional.

By Murphy

March 12, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

I get neither sense. So in this, I guess I’m senseless

—Awesome. Too funny DOB

By Murphy

March 12, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

I get neither sense. So in this, I guess I’m senseless

—Awesome. Too funny DOB

By sane jane

March 12, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

In all fairness, white people prefer EVERYTHING from 20 years ago, not just rap.

Perhaps that’s why I still wear my trusty “dirty buc” crepe-soled shoes.

You laugh, but it’s gotten me laid more than a handful of times.

Seriously, nobody wants to talk about Joe Borchard coming through in the clutch last night? Two RBI in the ninth to extend a 2-0 game?

I thought it was kind of cool. I’m now officially rooting for That Guy.

By mmurphf

March 12, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

TEX will hit 220 for the first two months of the season then hit 365 the rest of the season…always has.

By FJR

March 12, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

BA, can you shut up? You are making braves fans look dumber than you claim mets fans are.

By Tomahawkin

March 12, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Thor-Fan I was clocked around 70 when I was about twelve, I think its normal, if you throw everyday, and have some sort of routine that I think is normal, But stories like Danny Almonte, Is like Whoa! If its like that then somethings going on…

By Anders

March 12, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Richbrave

Oh, does anyone have an idea about a mid-seventies fastball from a 13 year-old? Is that ordinary, or exceptional?

Not sure if you know but Tom Glavine is much older than 13.

By kdbanks

March 12, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

So at Trivia last night there were two baseball questions…I fared not so well. Here’s the questions (I’ll post my answers and the correct ones down below.

  1. Only four MLB players in history have 3000 hits and 500 home runs. Name them.

  2. This MLB player was the first in history to have his jersey number retired. Name him.

By ken

March 12, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Hampton’s comment was not funny in the least. What a waste!

By knowitall

March 12, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

DOB agree with what you said about rap. I’m a little younger than you (34) and I’m finding it harder and harder to get into the rap by younger artists myself. It’s become too focused on a gimmicky chorus and not much else. Unfortunately, I think artist in Atlanta are the culprits.

By Steve McP

March 12, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Who says people are not taking ST seriously - anyone notice the article about the bench clearing tussle between the Yankees and the Rays, 4 ejections (including the Yankees starter who was ejected in the first inning.

here’s the link

By sane jane

March 12, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Ed Coleman’s blog on WFAN reports no such trade. Where is this info being reported?

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Anders: Re, Glavine commnet, very funny.

By Braveheart

March 12, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Oh, does anyone have an idea about a mid-seventies fastball from a 13 year-old? Is that ordinary, or exceptional?

It depends upon whether he is a hairy gorilla with a deep voice already.

If he hit puberty like 3 years ago and is three years ahead of everyone else, then he’ll never throw any harder. Tell him to enjoy his next year or two of dominance because he’s gonna get pounded by the time he is 17.

If his voice has not yet cracked, he’s still rail thin, has not had his growth spurt, and his body is without the follicle signs of puberty, then watch out. Dude should be throwing 90 by high school graduation.

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

ippississiM

And not just Mazzone — we’ve gotta keep in mind two other potentially highly influential possible mentors on the ’90s Braves teams — Smoltz and (especially) Maddux.

That may be one of the reasons I had restricted the scope of my inquiry to the Mets. (Wish I could say it was a conscious decision, but it wasn’t. Most likely, I was just being lazy.)

But I did consciously limit myself to considering only players 10+ years younger than Glavine, basec on my conception of the meaning of “mentoring”.

What you’ve done so far is mighty impressive — I’m sure I’m not the only who appreciates the time and effort you’ve put into it.

On on!

Oh, McFann, what ever are we gonna do with you? You’re nearly as humorless as our own chrisklob.

GF, I was just funnin’ you, playing that the Heap was so ugly that only someone who had never seen him could be so into him as you.

Just pullin’ your leg.

By brave head

March 12, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

HEY DOB METS ARE TRYING TO TRADE ANGEL PAGON FOR BOSTONS COCO CRISP. WHAT DO YOU THINK???????

By kdbanks

March 12, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Here are the answers:

  1. Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Eddie Murray and Rafael Palmeiro. (I guessed Aaron, Bonds, Ruth and Williams)

  2. Lou Gherig (I got this one right)

Just for kicks anyone know who the winningest pitcher in MLB history to have never won the Cy Young award is?

Yeah, it’s Cy Young himself.

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

KD

the 4 Aaron, Mays, williams, ott

jersey: gehrig

By sane jane

March 12, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

found the Pagan/Crisp buzz.

Somebody explain to me how being the scrub Mets 4th outfielder is a better deal than being a bench player with the reigning heavyweight champ Boston?

By N8

March 12, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

For what it’s worth (to anybody who cares about Ex-Braves), I’ve been listening to KC Sports talk radio all afternoon, and they’ve been talking about the Royals, and said the Trey Hillman (Royals manager), has pretty much let it be known that Davies (who got HAMMERED in his last start), pretty much has to tear it up this last few weeks of Spring Training to even MAKE the rotation in the 5th spot.

So let me get this right…. People were upset that we dumped him off, yet he isn’t even guaranteed the 5th spot in the Royals rotation?

Yikes. How far has he fallen since his initial call up? Just another sign that MOST of the time, JS is NOT gonna give up any top notch pitching that has a legit (in his eyes) shot at being special. So far Wainwright is the ONLY guy that’s “gotten away” in my book.

I had high hopes for Joey Devine. But I’m gonna go with my gut that Wren has the same thought process as JS did, and Devine will likely be a middle of the road reliever his entire career. However long that lasts.

By knowitall

March 12, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Tomahawkin I didn’t think anyone else remebered Camp Lo. I actually have that CD. I was listening to it a few weeks ago.

By Jmart

March 12, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

When do the first cuts occur? How about the other day when we had Schafer on 3rd, Hernandez (?) on 2nd (Tiger CF we got in trade)and Anderson on 1st. Flowers was up and I would have given anything to see him gap one just to see how quickly the bases would empty.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

THIS JUST IN: First round of cuts included pitchers Charlie Morton, Matt DeSalvo, Phil Stockman, Zach Schrieber and Jairo Cuevas.

Those were the ones Bobby knew off-hand. Might be one or two more, but haven’t gotten a release yet. I’ll let you know if there’s any more.

By Ron Roberts

March 12, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Oh God… first it was some schlub saying Brayan Pena (a bad defensive catcher should be tried as a backup 1B…no Javy?)

Kudos on the hip hop commentary, DOB. Working in radio, I can tell ya, it’s a double-edged sword for us. Ya don’t play the senseless, perverse, arrogant, misogynistic (that means hostile to women, for those of you scoring low on your SATs) rap songs, and the kids will revolt. You do play the crap, and you’re only enabling the moron to profit from it and for that way of thinking to prosper.

What’s crazy is (and I think they know this and choose to benefit frm it) it’s the suburban kids who are eating the product up.

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Paul In Richmond:

“So What” “Big Deal” “He will be fine”

Is there anyone specific, living or dead, to whom you can attribute these imaginary quotes?

I thought not. I ditto FJR’s charge.

Also agree with FJR here — don’t think I‘da told that.

Daybed Wagmoe:

“Giving spots to Javy AND Sammons/Pena would mean that someone else isn’t getting a roster spot. Whose spot would you propose he take?”

Bench (maybe): Javy (C/PH), Pena (C/3B), Thorman (1B/PH), Anderson (OFx3/PH/PR), Prado (2B/3B/SS/PH).

(Prado only until Infante returns.)

By McFann

March 12, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Har har, Niels, I’m laughin’ like a chicken in a Mrs. Winner’s.

Have you ever seen your namesake in real life?

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Tomahawkin’, of course i’m going to D.C. It’s opening day and I’m the beat writer. Why would I not go? Doesn’t matter if it’s one game.

By Dan

March 12, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Glad to see that Diaz is finally going to be recognized by playing LF most of the time. I don’tunderstand why the Braves don’t go with Pena as the back-up catcher and fill in at 1stBase. He has hitwell at all levels and can also play a bit at third. Why not trade Thorman for what you can get, keep Anderson as the 4th outfielder and reluctantly allow Javy to fade into the night. What am I missing here?

By hammy the brave

March 12, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Sane Jane said, why is no one giving love to Borchard? Mark Bowman says he has no chance, but I think a guy who is a switchhitter, can play all 3 OF slots, and hopefully will get enough practice to be servicable at 1B can help your bench. Bowman points to his bad stats in the majors( about a .205 BA in about 300 ab’s), but most of that time the Marlins tried to make him a regular OF starter. He seems to hit better as a lefty(according to 2007 Baseball Prospectus- can’t get the stats here at work). Plus, on the game last night Joe Simpson specifically said Borchard was taking the ball more the opposite way this spring, and his 2 run single was straight up the middle. Don’t forget, guys can improve as players, especially when they’re trying to hang on in the majors(don’t say a player can’t change/improve).

Also DOB, the Philadelphia Enquirer reports that the Braves and Marlins have expressed some interest in Wes Helms of the Phillies. Have you heard about this in camp? (despite your loathing of him, the man can play 1B and 3B, hits lefties well, and has been a good ph for about the last 3 yrs).

Lastly, could you ask FW if he could trade for some team’s roadblocked 1B power prospect? I believe KC, Detroit and Colorado have players fitting that description. This would provide a more viable option to replace Tex if he leaves than Thorman does, IMO.

Thanks for your reply,

Hammy the Brave

By 22oz

March 12, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

No real surprises in that first round of cuts, Stockman might be the only one out of that group that had a snowball’s chance of making the team. Thought he might stick around a little longer, but if he’s got it, he’ll be back.

By 18 Wheels of Love

March 12, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Wish The DBT’s would have turned it up to 11 last night but whatever…still solid.

And I’m directly related to Pocahontas so I think old Neil Young and Walt Disney owe me some money for using her name without my permission.

By Pete H.

March 12, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Oh, boy. The Mariners just gave Horacio an unconditional release. Now’s our CHANCE!!!! I’d love to see that 7.00 ERA out there for us every fifth day.

Man, did we job the Mariners or what?

BTW, Rotoworld first reported, then shot down, the Crisp for Pagan trade. Both teams have denied that they’ve even talked about Crisp.

By Michael in England

March 12, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Hello Lads from the UK. Atlanta native that has been living in England for 7 years. I love reading this blog everyday. Thanks DOB for keeping me well up to date on all the Braves goings on. Been on MLBTV since day one. Greatest invention for those of us living so far away. I can honestly say that I have not been as excited about a new baseball year as I am this one. I really believe the Braves are going to come up big. Anyway, love all the comments and disagreements always going on. Makes my day. Go Braves!!!

By OrlandoFan

March 12, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

N8: Jason Schmidt might be part of your list. And Jason Marquis is in the conversation. When they’re healthy. Otherwise, I agree.

By Duke

March 12, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

What time is Hampton expected to make his Simulated session? I’m anxious!

By McFann

March 12, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Hey, Niels, uh……Sorry about the end of my 4:02 post…That was uncalled for. I sincerely apologize.

Still, though, I like McCann for many reasons, one of which is because I’ve seen him.

8 )

By Jared

March 12, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

The Marines out-and-out released Horacio Ramirez.

O’Brien, any idea if the Braves will try to bring Ramirez back?

By Philliesuk

March 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Just got back from spring training. Gotta go along with everything DOB is reporting. Just a few of my own random observations…Schafer is the real deal. I can definitely see him up in Atl in August. Jurrjens has looked ridiculous. Can’t see any possible way he doesn’t make the staff. Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine, Jurrjens, Reyes/James/Hampton looks like a significant improvement over last year. We’ll miss Renteria’s personality, stability, and glove, but Yunel looks awesome (despite a boot here and there). Josh Anderson is probably the nicest ballplayer I’ve ever met. I can’t tell you how long he signed autographs. Kotsay was a great guy too. Can’t wait for the season. I laugh at the ESPN ‘experts’ who are projecting us third. I love it.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Catcher J.C. Boscan is the other cut. Six guys total, five pitchers and him.

Gotta go watch Hampton throw sim game at 5:15. Busy day.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Someone on the other blog mentioned how quick we pulled the plug on Horacio. Apparently the Mariners were less than impresed as well. He’s gone.

The Mets trading Pagan for Crisp might actually make sense-that is why it will never happen.

By DirtyDawg

March 12, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

As much as I would like to see Javy make the team, I’m afraid that it’s imperative that we keep at least one catcher that can actually catch - and I’m including McCann in that. The young man, Brian, seems to recognize that he has limitations as a receiver - catching and throwing I think the announcers call it - and that he’s working hard to improve. Well if he’s been working hard it wasn’t in the off-season because it hasn’t shown up in his girth. The kid looks as if he’s added a few inches around the middle - that can happen right after you get married - so I have to wonder just how much work he’s done since last October and how much improvement we should expect.

Face it, we let the best catcher we had - receiving and hitting - get away last season in the Saltyman, so we better hold onto everyone we can that has a future…unfortunately I’m not sure that includes Javy Lopez.

By northBeach Scott

March 12, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Agreed that we will see Stockman at some point during the season. He just needs to master his control. Oops gotta go

By brian

March 12, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

did they assign Morton to AA or AAA. Hopefully he can keep developing. I expect him to stay with Atlanta next year - future rotation of young starters - Jair, JoJo, James, and Morton - not a bad crew to start with especially with the promise of the A to AA crew (Hanson, etc)

By Serbok

March 12, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

FYI I heard Braves game 2night is FREE on MLB.com

By GTI in Chicago

March 12, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Hello, DOB and Fellow Denizens. My apologies if this has already been referenced on the blog and I missed it:

I heard an interesting tidbit on one of the local am sports radio stations here in Chicago this afternoon, and checked out it out myself…

Rick Morrissey, a sports columnist for the Tribune is having a little back and forth with the people at Baseball Prospectus about the value (or in his opinion, the lack thereof) of the PECOTA baseball projections.

Now, I’m not a stat-head and I don’t pretend to understand how the PECOTA system works, except that it’s based on a computer program, a system of equations and variables like player stats and team records from previous seasons. (I think.) Morrissey’s argument was that the system can’t really mean anything, basically because it has no way to measure marvelous intangibles like “Heart”. (Which is, frankly, a point of view I would agree with.)

So, a couple of days ago, Nate Silver of BP, offered a good-natured response and wrote, basically: Ok, so fine, let’s say the system doesn’t account for “heart”. If that’s true, we could then perhaps take each team’s PECOTA projected win totals for the past 5 seasons, compare that to their actual win totals for those same seasons and then use that difference as a measurement of that team’s “Heart” during that time. For example, say PECOTA projects a win total for Team A of 85; Team A actually wins 95; they would then get a “Heart” rating of +10.

The PECOTA win projections have only been done since before the 2003 season. In those 5 years, no team has exceeded their projection in each of the five years, and no team has come in below their projection in all five. But if you add up the totals across all five years and compare PECOTA projections to the actual totals, guess what team comes out with the most “Heart” points:

Atlanta Braves +35

Anaheim Angels +33

Chicago White Sox +30

St. Louis Cardinals +17

So, The Bravos rate as the team with the most “Heart” in MLB – and that’s just the last five seasons, which, of course, includes ’03 when we had a bullpen sent from heaven, ’05 when all the baby braves came up for the first time, and ’06 when the team finally tanked, thereby surely dragging down our “Heart” rating in the study.

For those curious, the bottom of the barrel went like this:

Arizona Diamondbacks -30

Chicago Cubs -27

Boston Red Sox -25

Pittsburgh Pirates -24

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m not a stat head at all, and I was fascinated. Here’s the link to the friendly retort by Nate Silver at BP: text to be linked

By Ron Roberts

March 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

That’s too bad about Horacio. That guy was pretty serviceable back-of-the-rotation guy for us before his injuries got to be a recurring issue. I hope somebody like K.C. takes a shot at him and works to help him find his groove. Matter of fact, with Dayton as their GM, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him end up there.

And yeah, did we job the Mariners in that deal or what? Of course, we all say and think that while Soriano has us all holding our collective breath with arm soreness in spring training - as common or uncommon as that is. If he’s not good to go this season, we’re no better than we were with the mighty Dan Kolb coming outta the ‘pen. shudders

By McFann

March 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg

I think we cann expect some improvement as far as Brian’s throwing is concerned. Saltalamacchia caught 19% of base runners with the Braves (5 out of 26), and 17% (8 out of 45) for the entire season. Sure, he was only a rookie, but those numbers aren’t outstanding. I’d like to see Pena make the team myself, but let’s face it: Javy’s got it in the bag. Not that he’s been great this spring, but you know how it goes with these former players.

Only four guys have attempted to steal off Brian this spring. He hasn’t caught any of them, and that’s kind of upsetting…but Lopez is 0-6, and Pena is 2-4. Sammons is 1-1, so he appears to be “the best”, if you wanna give somebody that title. (Salty is 1-4, BTW.)

Brian has to recognize that he has limitations in defense because he does. He admits his faults—a very good trait to have.

By TennesseePaul

March 12, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Payne: This is the problem with Spring Training, teams make roster decisions on the basis of what they see in less than a month’s worth of playing time (in some cases much less than that).
However, a lot of times there’s no other way to do it

Ironically I saw this post at 2:41 my time, exactly 3 hours after the fact. Any way, I’m not totally privy to all the dirty details down in offices for MLB teams at Spring Training, but I’d have a feeling some of the choices made are made based off of previous season’s work, or reviews, as well. The low amount worth of work isn’t much for making a choice but if you know what the “weakness” and “strength” of a player already is from previous scouting or schooling, you can probably gather some idea of the progress the player has or hasn’t made with regard to said weakness or strength and make a fairly sound judgment call.
Now, I said all that without any frame of reference to your original post, but whatever.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg- I’ll pre-empt McFann here. McCann got heavier? Where do you get that from? I saw him ten different days at Spring Training from as close as two feet away and I sure didn’t see that. Haven’t heard it from anyone else who saw him, either.

The Dude worked out all winter trying to improve his strength, reflexes and flexibility and then took yoga for more flexibility. Not sure where you’re getting your information from.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

I guess McFann can’t be pre-empted.

By TJ

March 12, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

I like Javy as much as the next longtime Braves’ fan, but I just don’t see it. He’s mediocre (at best) defensively, will not hit for average, and only plays one position. Sure, he’ll pop one out of the park every 25 ab’s or so, but usually what you need from a PH is contact.

Too much like Brian Jordan the last time around.

I think Sammons is a fine catcher, but doesn’t need to rot on the bench. Brayan Pena is as good a catcher as McCann (which, sorry McFann, ain’t saying a whole lot); makes contact, and can play a couple of positions.

At this point, I’d say keep Pena (c, 1B, 3B/OF in a pinch), Thorman (1B, LF in a pinch), Anderson (all OF), Infante (2B, SS, 3B) (Prado in his place til he’s healthy) and Lillibridge (2B, SS, maybe some 3B/CF), as the bench.

When Infante comes back, you can send Lillibridge down, so he still gets plenty of work this year.

Borchard is a compelling story and has had a nice 2 weeks, but he’s really not likely to be any better at the plate than Thorman; and Thorman is a 1B (maybe not great, but pretty decent; Borchard has played all of 1 game there, as has Javy), and Thor could have a future.

By Former Fan of McFann

March 12, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Hi guys, I used to post here a for a couple of days under the moniker of “Fan of McFann”.

After reading more of his posts, I see I was wrong in defending him against the dogpile mounting on top of him.

I am no longer a fan of McFann.

By Former Fan of McFann

March 12, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Hi guys, I used to post here for a couple of days under the moniker of “Fan of McFann”.

After reading more of his posts, I see I was wrong in defending him against the dogpile mounting on top of him.

I am no longer a fan of McFann.

By justdoit

March 12, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

any news on how hampton did?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

With all the trade rumors swirling around Scott Thorman I thought prudent to point this out.

Thorman has logged 55 innings at 1B this spring. Teixeira is at 42 innings and Tyler Flowers has 26 innings at 1B.

Nobody else has seen action at first base. So , what does it all mean ?

We know Flowers is destined to start his season in the minors and Tex is the starter at 1B , presumably leaving Thorman as the back up by default.

If the Braves are really trying to trade Thorman , it means they have to find a suitable replacement first. My thinking is , the Braves are pursuing more than one trade , probably two involving multiple players.

Stay tuned Denizens !

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Hampton’s 4 simulated innings went without a hitch. He’ll make his next scheduled start in five days. Looked good, normal, threw all his pitches, didn’t favor the leg at all. Gave up two or three hits to a bunch that included Javy, Pena, Thorman and Blanco.

TONIGHT’s LINEUP: 1. KJ, 2. Escobar, 3. Chipper, 4. Tex, 5. McCann, 6. Francoeur, 7. Kotsay, 8. B. Jones , 9. Carlyle.

B. Jones is in left, Diaz getting a day off after crashing into that wall and getting a bit of a stiff neck.

By Nick

March 12, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Nice try, Lew :) But I argee with you and McFann: I haven’t seen him in person, but all the times I’ve been able to watch a game in which he played, I’ve said to myself, “Wait, people on the blogs are calling him fat?” I mean, he’s no Juan Pierre—he looks like a catcher. But anyone calling Brian fat needs to get their glasses checked.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Lew. Yeah, I don’t know where this “McCann got heavier” thing came from. I read it from you and in an article by DOB that he had lost weight. There were plenty of places that mentioned his off-season workout plan (even Mr. Bowman talked about it).

Maybe DirtyDawg owns one of those WIDE screen TVs—know what I mean? Besides, TV adds ten pounds to your appearance.

You saw Brian ten different days? Wow…Whoops, drifting away from discussion here!

Don’t forget, DD, McCann reorganized his weight. Didn’t you read about that? Guess not.

Nope, sorry, Lew. Can’t be preempted. I see something about McCann and I’m on it.

; )

By McFann

March 12, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Thanks much, my former fan.

Ya only had to post it once, BTW. That’s something one reads once and it sticks.

:,(

By Nick

March 12, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

“Hampton’s 4 simulated innings went without a hitch. He’ll make his next scheduled start in five days. Looked good, normal, threw all his pitches, didn’t favor the leg at all.”

Thanks, DOB, you made my day!! (And probably a lot of other people’s, too)

By McFann

March 12, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Nick

Great post, man. And if those people don’t have glasses already, maybe they should look into it. It’s a good investment.

Hey, TJ, so true, man. Boy, am I a jerk! Defending a two-time All-Star who’s won a Silver Slugger. DANG! He’s not a whole lot to get excited about at all! Sheesh!

Wow, let me close out by saying, “I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.”

By taylor s

March 12, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

I just saw where the Mariners released Horacio Ramirez. DOB, any chance the braves sign him to a minor league deal for depth ?

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

This ought to be a fun one to watch. Having Matty out is a tease, but this should be a pretty good indication of what pitchers will have to go through this season.

The sans-Mac line up last night didn’t product any runs, but they did threaten immediately. First two innings, RISP. I have a feeling this lineup will be a run production machine.

By TJ

March 12, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

McFann, lighten up. I like McCann a lot - posted a few days ago how whether he hits .260 or .330, he’s an asset to the team. And you posted your agreement.

I guess you gotta choose your words carefully here. But, fact is, no matter how you look at it (stats, or just watching the games), mac is mediocre at best as a defensive catcher. That doesn’t mean I don’t want him on my team, or starting 140 games for my team, or that I don’t like him.

By Duke

March 12, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

DOB, great news regarding Hampton and his groin. The best thing about it was it was over 4 innings and not just two. Great feeling in my stomach about his comeback.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

I think we ought to clarify-McCann is a great defensive catcher in terms of framing pitches and calling games. It’s just that he isn’t that good at throwing people out.

Hopefully that improves, but so long as he is productive on the offensive front, it’s fine.

And McFann, you have to chill out a bit with defending Brian every time someone gives a realistic depiction of his shortcomings.

By couldawouldashoulda

March 12, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Duke, so in your stomach you’re feeling good about Hampton and his groin? I don’t even want to know how your heart feels…

By Braveheart

March 12, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

McCann is too much of a great teammate to say it but a HUGE problem with the stolen bases has to do with who is pitching rather than who is catching.

Stupid fans will blame the catcher but people don’t steal off John Smoltz. They don’t steal off Chuck James. They don’t steal off Tim Hudson. They didn’t steal off Buddy Carlyle. They only stole 33 bases combined against those 4 pitchers and 31% of the potential basestealers were nabbed.

The problem was with the rest of the pitchers not keeping the runners honest.

McCann needs to improve but not as much as Brian himself claims.

His pitchers have got to start helping him out.

By ncscoots

March 12, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Face it, we let the best catcher we had - receiving and hitting - get away last season in the Saltyman

Guess somebody forgot to tell Gerald Laird. Maybe when Saltalamacchia actually wins a ML job, we can see if we actually let him “get away”.

Wren’s comments last night on speed were interesting. Scary, but interesting. Frank seems to have been a fan of the 60’s Dodgers and Maury Wills…which would be great if the Braves were pitching from a higher mound, in a bigger ballpark, and 3 out 5 hitters today didn’t look as if they could kick sand in the face of Harmon Killebrew.

I can see the Braves’ slogan in the coming years:

“Runs like the wind…”

“Hits like a girl.”

But those 6-2 losses will be SO exciting to watch, LOL! Have MERCY!

By McFann

March 12, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine

Yeah, this’ll be a good game……I hope.

Sorry, TJ. Didn’t mean to blowup all over ya. I apologize. I sure as heck want him around for 140 games, and to improve immensely on he defense.

By Chop Chop

March 12, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

DOB,

When you mentioned that Hampton was pitching at 5:15, I started thinking that I was out of my brain on the train.

By chrisklob

March 12, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Boor

Oh, McFann, what ever are we gonna do with you? You’re nearly as humorless as our own chrisklob.

Oh please. You clearly don’t know a thing about me if you think I’m humorless.

By TJ

March 12, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

For the record, I’m really not talking about throwing out base stealers in my comments about McCann. It’s errors, and passed balls (and preventing pb/wp). But of course, those can also be the fault of the pitcher, and it may be up to the scorer.

Epinephrine, I agree that from all I’ve heard, pitchers are very comfortable with McCann’s pitch selection. And over the course of a season, that’s probably more important than the dozen or so balls that get by him that, maybe, shouldn’t.

By Philliesuk

March 12, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Gotta echo what others are saying. I just can’t see the backup catching job going to anyone buy Javy. Unfortunately, I think he’s the wrong choice. Don’t get me wrong…I absolutely love the guy. I think he will be great in the clubhouse and he is one of the guys with ‘heart’ (see earlier posts). But let’s face it: A backup catcher is brought in (usually) for defense, a la Eddie Perez. I think Clint Sammons would be much better for the team, and is his offense really going to be that much worse than Javy’s? I doubt it. That being said, I’ll still be very happy to see #8 in the lineup in April.

By Fan of McFann Again

March 12, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

I turned on ya too quickly I guess.

I’m a fan of McFann again. Keep it up!

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

ncscoots, I was gonna make the same comment yesterday when someone called Salty an All-Star in the making. Let’s let him beat out Laird for the starting job first.

Or has Salty put up numbers so far in his brief major league career that scream “future All-Star”? He’s the same age, a little older actually, this year as McCann was when McCann broke in.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Braveheart

Excellent point. Our pitchers—besides Smoltz, Hudson, James, and Carlyle—aren’t as concerned about base-runners as they should be. And McCann’s a great clubhouse guy.

* Epinephrine*—

It’s good to have two sides to an argument.

By N8

March 12, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

HA! And now I read that the Mariners flat out RELEASED Ho-Ram? Too funny.

Who was it LAST off-season that was in an all out WAR with me over Ho-Ram and Davies? I don’t remember, but I got called MANY names, and was told I was stupid, and new NOTHING about the game.

Well, well. It looks like I was able to recognize when two young pitchers aren’t gonna pan out, huh?

Anybody else want to question the power of my “Miss Cleo” like predictions? LOL!

Anyhow, I don’t expect who it was (and if you think that I actually DON’T remember who it was - then you truly do think I’m stupid), to say I was right, and they were wrong. But let’s just say, I won’t be taking any “arguments” with that person this season seriously anymore.

Batter up!

By Muggly Other

March 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

What’s up with FSN? Braves were broadcast last night and were supposed to be on again tonight. It’s 7:10 and no Braves. Raining in Fla or is something changed on the schedule?

By Jared

March 12, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Who was it LAST off-season that was in an all out WAR with me over Ho-Ram and Davies? I don’t remember, but I got called MANY names, and was told I was stupid, and new NOTHING about the game.

Sounds like Coach to me. Coach said the same thing to me when I claimed that Jeff Bennett’s 13 innings of three-and-a-half ERA baseball with the Atlanta Braves last season doesn’t automatically earn him a spot on the big-league roster to start the season this year.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Nice catch by Kotsay going back into the r-c gap to close a scoreless first inning with a runner on.

Beautiful night out here at the ‘yard, with only the constant blaring ads and other P.A. announcements interrupting an otherwise pleasant scene.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Thanks, my again fan!

By Steve McP

March 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Braves are definitely on FSN - I am watching it now

By DonCoburleone

March 12, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

DOB or Shaun or somebody who does good research (not that you have the time right now DOB, but if you can remember off the top of your head maybe) has their ever been a team in history with 2 switch hitting power hitters in the middle of a lineup? I mean, two switch hitters coming off of seasons where they each hit 29+ homers, 100+RBI, .300+ average, and .400+OBP? I seriously doubt any team in history has had those kind of weapons in the middle of their order…

By Lew

March 12, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Nathan-There was someone on the last blog talking about how fast we gave up on Horacio and ran him out of town. At least we waited four or five years before we dumped him-AND got Soriano in return. The Mariners? Not so much.

BTW, Dude-ever get into a band called Cornerstone.

By Chris

March 12, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Pitchers being concerned about baserunners is overrated. Jose Reyes and players like him are probably going to take their base no matter what you do. Pitchers should focus on the batter - that is where they are most likely to negate anything the baserunner might do.

By ncscoots

March 12, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Well, I know I defended Davies long after most (hey, I figured his talent had to take over SOME time). But since I would never, EVER call nathan names, I know he’s not talking about me, LOL.

And besides, Horacio was dead to me long ago :-)

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

McFann can rest easy tonight — two-out RBI double by B-Mac. Braves lead 2-0 in the first.

By TN-MAN

March 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Muggly I dont know what is going on. I am having the same problem, they are showing chinese kickboxing here? UNBELIEVABLE!

By McFann

March 12, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

OH YEAH!!! That’s what I’m talkin’ about!! RBI double!! 2-0!!

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

Buddy gave up a leadoff homer by Astrubal Cabrera in the second. The Budster.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Nice job of hitting by Brian McCann ripping a double down the right field line making it 2-0 Atlanta after one inning. Make that 2-1 in the second as Cabrera just hammered a Buddy Carlyle fastball over the right field wall for a homerun.

By keylargo

March 12, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Braves are back on Directv Channel 630 tonight in the S FL area. Maybe yours too!

By MaryS910

March 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Gotta love these games being televised on Fox SportsSouth!I must say that BMac looks a lot better without that awful beard. I don’t know why anyone would think he looked heavier. As far as Hampton, hope springs eternal, doesn’t it?

By Steve McP

March 12, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Braves are also free on mlb TV tonight so you can watch on your computer

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

Brandon Jones drove one to the wall in left, just missed a homer by about a foot. Caught at the wall.

By midtownBrave

March 12, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

McCann will go 2-for-3 tonight and will be hitting .292 tomorrow??

By 234234

March 12, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

why is Resop not throwing until Friday and then not scheduled to throw until 5 days later? Is there an issue we are not aware of?

By DonCoburleone

March 12, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

Wow, I just realized this - Doesn’t Brandon Jones stance and swing look exactly like Wilson Betemits’?? I was thinking for a second, did we get him back??

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Beau Mills has gone yard on Bud to lead off the third.

The Budster. Leadoff homers in consecutive innings.

By DonCoburleone

March 12, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Buddy Carlyle, HR givin’ machine!!!

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Man…sure am glad Buddy isn’t the stop gap solution this year.

Before he gets there, we’d have to burn (assuming Jurrjens makes it) Hampton, James, and Reyes. Phew.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Woops , Buddy just gave up another lead off home run to right field. 2-2 and Carlyle is up in the zone.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Another solo HR off of Buddy. Damn-that ain’t good. Make that the third solo HR off Buddy. Double damn. Back to back.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Grady Sizemore just CRUSHED another homer. Back-to-back shots.

Some things don’t change, and lefties killed Buddy last year. They’re killing him tonight.

By midtownBrave

March 12, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Long balls still bothering buddy. 3 now. He can say bye bye to a spot on the roster.

By N8

March 12, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

scoots

“But since I would never, EVER call nathan names, I know he’s not talking about me, LOL.”

Yes. You may relax scoots….it wasn’t you. :-)

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

Make that back to back home runs off of Carlyle. 3-2 Cleveland. All fastballs up in the zone , all three HR’s to right field.

By Edgar

March 12, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

Typical Carlyle!!!, 3 HR, he cant keep a lefty out of the ballpark, Im 98% sure he’s going to Richmond, where those 3 HR he’s given up have landed.

By N8

March 12, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

Anybody still think that Buddy is an “option” other than in emergency for our rotation?

Yikes.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

Mark kotsay is solid in CF , he made a good throw to 2B and almost nailed the runner. Carlyle just punched his ticket back to Richmond where he belongs.

By TJ

March 12, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Hey, take away the 3 home runs, and he pitched pretty well.

By Tomahawkin

March 12, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

Knowitall If you’re still on here,That Luchini AKA “This is it” is hella ill, I was watching that video on youtube and it make me reminisce to the days when rappers rapped about chillaxin, instead of the crap that gets aired on MTV/BET Now…

And I’m 24, and being in college I find more White kids listen to more of the crapola rap than I do, no offense intended…

Ron Roberts you nailed it on point with that suburbia statement, I haven’t bought a rap CD since “Stankonia”

By Kev

March 12, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

JESUS Carlyle!!!, for me ther order is, in case something happens to Hampton, Big Three,Jair, Bennett, Jo-Jo, WHEN Chuck J returns he goes in for Bennett, then Charlie, then a FA and THEN Buddy Carlyle.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

Um Tj…take away the three home runs through three innings, and he pitched pretty well? I’d love to be judged by those standards.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

At any rate , I’m watching the game in full screen mode and blogging. My old Pentium III seem to handle this 402 kilobite feed fairly well. The picture is a little fuzzy but considering it’s the internet , I’m buying MLB.TV for the season.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

Gee wiz, Buddy.

Thanks, DOB, I think I will rest easy, but Buddy went and blew it for now. I’m all for JJJ as our #5 (or even #4) guy this year.

McCann will go 2-for-3 tonight and will be hitting .292 tomorrow??

I know how we cann know for sure…

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

Buddy’s line: 3 innings, five hits, three runs, four Ks, three homers.

Blaine Boyer just pitched a strong fourth.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

Strong stuff there from Blaine. My guess is that goes a long way towards penciling him in that spot…

By Jared

March 12, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

My prediction to start the season:

Smoltz-Hudson-Glavine-Hampton-Jurrjens

Soriano-Moylan-Yates-Acosta-Ohman-Boyer-?Ring?

The only one I’m unsure of, barring injuries, is Royce Ring.

By Ron_Paul

March 12, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

Watching free baseball on MLBTV - can’t beat it!

Boyer looks like he is throwing HARD with free movement! I am really pulling for this guy! Loved watching him a couple years ago, going up against Piazza!

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Boyer pitched the fourth and he looked great. Throwing gas and mixing in a curveball to complement his fastball.

By TJ

March 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

take away the three home runs through three innings, and he pitched pretty well? I’d love to be judged by those standards.

Epinephrine, guess I need to add a smiley face at the end of posts that are meant in jest. :)

And there goes McCann!

By uga-brave

March 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

oh sheeesssh mac with a big fly

By N8

March 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

“Hey, take away the 3 home runs, and he pitched pretty well.”

WOW. What’s your last name TJ…..Cox?

B-Mac…2-Run HR. McFann McWill McBe McHappy.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

A two-run blast by B-Mac. He crushed that ball into the bullpen beyond right field.

The big man (uh-umm) is having a helluva game.

By Jared

March 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Mac, Tex struggling

You were saying?

By Ron_Paul

March 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Hello Brian McCann!

2 run HR!!! Eat it McFann!

By McFann

March 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

WHAAAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRAVES LEAD 4-2!!!

SWEAT DREAMS!!!!!

By woogidy

March 12, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

DOB, you might be on to something with this blog breaking a slump. Tex, McCann with hits tonight, Big Mac with bunch of rbis and a hr.

By Random

March 12, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Hey, McFann, will you loan me fifty bucks?

(You gotta ask ‘em when they’re in a good mood — strike whilst the iron’s hot, dontcha know?)

Thanks, McFann — go Heap! ‘Bout time you woke up.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

McCann just powered a two run HR over the right field wall on a fastball right in his wheelhouse. 4-3 Atlanta. Damn , this team can hit. I’m gonna stop blogging and just watch the game.

By JT

March 12, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

McFann

Nice touch by McC,you HAVE to be screaming after that shot!!!

By Austin

March 12, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Looks like even this early in Spring that Buddy ain’t gonna make the squad.

By N8

March 12, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Coach

You said:

“Mark kotsay is solid in CF , he made a good throw to 2B and almost nailed the runner.”

I’m not watching, just listening, so this question is more for information than anything.

On the play you are talking about, where Kotsay almost threw the runner out, Chip said on radio, that Kotsay “couldn’t quite get to that ball”. My question to you, since we’re gonna have to listen (read) people talking about it ALL year…. Would Andruw have made that catch?

I don’t care either way, especially since I was NOT sad to see Andruw go. But the question had to be asked…you know?

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Just got done writing Josh Anderson story, so that’s why the comments were scarce in first three innings

By the way, Carlyle’s three homers allowed came against all lefties (well, two lefties and a switch).

Last year he allowed a .343 average, 11 homers and a bloated 1.017 OPS in 198 at-bats by lefty hitters.

By Epinephrine

March 12, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Wow DOB. What was that you were saying about worrying over Mac and Tex? Not to mention KJ seems to have snapped his cold streak.

Barring injury, I am pretty pumped about this team.

By ricky

March 12, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

DOB Before Boyer got hurt I heard talks about how he had great make up to be a potential closer. From what I remember the Braves had high expectations for him. Is he going to even make the team or our we going to trade him or put him to waiver?? I think he has great stuff!

By 22oz

March 12, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Well, good timely article DOB, looks like Tex and Mac read it before they went out tonight! I wasn’t worried, but it is nice to see them getting hits tonight. Even the outs are looking good. Now Prado gets and RBI and Brandon Jones gets a hit. Good night for Braves! Now Boyer gets an RBI! unbelieveable!

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Braves are just SHELLING this lefty Aaron Fultz. Hit after hit after hit. Blaine Boyer just hit a bases-loaded RBI single to left. Yes, Boyer.

Now Chipper’s up with the bags still juiced….

Flied out just in front of the LF warning track, towering drive probably kept in the park by the wind blowing in. Sac fly, 8-2 lead (six runs in this inning).

Starter Brian Slocum left after three with a strained right groin (they’re going around this spring, those contagious righ groin strains)

By TJ

March 12, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

I see that Madson apparently started for Philly against the Reds tonight… went 3 innings. Anyone keep up with the Phillies? Is that a plan on their part, or just spring training messing-around?

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Teixeira RBI single down left-field line. It’s a bloodbath, and Fultz is finally being mercifully lifted from the carnage.

By blazerpunter

March 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

DOB, it is now your job to write about every slumping hitter on the Braves team for the rest of the season. McCann has 4 RBIs and TEX just got his 3rd hit!!

GO BRAVES…………….

By 22oz

March 12, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Well, i should backtrack-good night for Braves Nation unless you’re counting on Buddy. Now Tex gets another RBI knock. This big rally got started with Pete in the tv booth. Coincidence?

By Ron_Paul

March 12, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

DOB

Did you mean to post the error 3 times?

Aaron Fultz is LH

By HEADLINES

March 12, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Opportunistic Offense Outs, Offs Fultz

By HEADLINES

March 12, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

Opportunistic Offense Outs, Offs Fultz

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

N8 , no. Andruw would not have made that catch , it was tailing away from Kotsay.

By N8

March 12, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

DOB

Thanks for the update.

Thanks for the update.

Thanks for the update.

:-)

By Bobby's Cox

March 12, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

DOB

I read this question in a blog a few days back, but never heard a response:

How is Erik Cordier pitching if, he’s pitching at all, and where is he slated to pitch this year? This is the “live arm” pitcher we got from KC in the Tony Pena trade.

By uga-brave

March 12, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

lew,

that was me who commented on the horam thing. i was making a point that horam and chuck and duck had similar problems with walks and the long ball

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Mac, Tex struggling

You were saying?Jared

I was saying, but so what? And that if he went 2-for-3 tonight and again tomorrow night, he’d be hitting over .290.

By Greg in TN

March 12, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

Evening lads and lasses…

And a tip of the cap from this denizen to Michael in England for checking in with the Braves Nation from across the pond. Good to see Europe represented along with Bravo Nam checking in from the Pacific Rim. Great stuff to see.

And before I go any further… Happy Birthday Dale Murphy If there were blogs back in the 80s when I was your age, McFann, I’d probably be loggin in as McMurph.

No surprises from the cut list from today to this denizen, however I will be following Charlie Morton’s progress closely whenever or wherever he gets assigned. I’m a little surprised that HoRam got released by the Mariners. JS’s ears have to be burning a little.

Just as DOB mentions the quiet spring one Brian McCann has had to this point, he goes off with a double, a homer and three RBIs through two plate appearances so far. Tex is hitting the ball well tonight too going 3 for 3 to this point. Good job by the Crusading Everyman for the anti-jinx tonight.

Oops, BMac lines out to short. Maybe I jinxed the anti-jinx.

Carlyle clearly took a step back tonight, however we did get good news that Hampton’s sim start was uneventful.

Wow, speaking of the birthday boy, Frenchy just chucked the bat toward the bat boy next to Cleveland’s dugout. Remember too well seeing a bat or two, or twelve fly out of Murphy’s hands after he missed an outside breaking ball.

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

N8

I used to wonder about the decline in defense from AJ to anybody but you gotta admit that make a lot of put-outs isn’t so great when your making a larger number of outs at the plate.

As my granddad used to say - It don’t matter how much water a jug can hold if it’s got a hole in the bottom.

By McFann

March 12, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Ahhh! That was good!! Yeah, I’m happy!!

Sorry, though, Random, I don’t have fifty bucks.

; )

By midtownBrave

March 12, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

N8 I think Andrew would have made that catch (maybe not in spring). Kotsay doesn’t have the reach of Andrew that’s for sure, but Kotsay is a solid defensive guy (he made couple of good grabs tonight). So no worries with Andrew leaving as long as Kotsay stays healthy.

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

Coach:

I had MLB.TV last year and unless you get the high speed option I don’t think its worth it. (i had the low speed) I myself will get the package from my local cable co. because the quality of seeing smoltz, tex, UKW, & more will justify the added expense.
just my opinion on quality vs. utility.

By HEADLINES

March 12, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

Kotsay Caught Snoozing on Garko’s 3rd Inning ‘Double’

By The Man

March 12, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

All I can say is that I wish the regular season was in play already with the way this team is performing.

By N8

March 12, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Coach

Thanks for the answer.

BTW, I just realized that the MLB-TV was free, so I clicked over to “watch” instead of “listen” on the screen, and it’s really not that bad of a picture.

In my area, to get the baseball package on Cable, you have to have the digital cable box (maybe you do everywhere), and currently I only have one of those in my house on my main TV (which of course my wife uses with the DVR to record EVERY show on earth), so in order for me to get the baseball package, I’d have to pay for the package itself, AND get another digital box (about 15 bucks a month), so I’m not so sure I wanna drop that kind of coin on it.

Especially since I could get this quality of image for 49.95 for the whole year. LOL!

By Greg in TN

March 12, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

I should say that I enjoy hearing from Bravo Nam when he does send in a post from the Far East.

Good night so far from Blaine Boyer who has authored a one hitter in his two innings of work thus far. The cherry to his sundae today has to be the RBI single and the run scored in the nine run fourth inning.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 12, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Did you hear Terry Pendleton ? he said the same exact thing I have been saying for four months about this 2008 team.

When asked what he thought about the Braves , he said : It’s all about the pitching and defense. Exactly and the Braves have both in spades.

By N8

March 12, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman

You said (or your grandad did):

“As my granddad used to say - It don’t matter how much water a jug can hold if it’s got a hole in the bottom.”

I’m a BIG fan of silly analogies, (and that is silly), but I’m not sure there has EVER been a better description of what Andruw, not only brought to the table (his defense), yet what he took away (his horrid hitting), last year.

Well done.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

UGABrave-However, Horacio only had that one (first) good season and had a major string of injuries for several others. Chuck had two good/decent seasons with only one injury interlude. I don’t think they pulled the trigger on Horacio too fast and I doubt they’ll just dump Chuck quite yet.

On another topic-I think this team will score plenty of runs this year. Also, it looks like Blaine Boyer really wants that bullpen job.

By TennesseePaul

March 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Scoots: But those 6-2 losses will be SO exciting to watch, LOL! Have MERCY!

So, I guess you don’t think too highly of what the future holds for this… starting rotation? 6 runs a game?

By The Man

March 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

It was surprising to hear Pete say the thing that concerned him most was the starting pitching. But I can understand that.

By Robert

March 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Can someone pleae explain that even though Boyer is better than Yates, BOyer is fighting for his job and Yates is secure

By N8

March 12, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Lew

Earlier you asked me (forgot about it - until I saw your last post):

“BTW, Dude-ever get into a band called Cornerstone?”

I’ve never heard of them. I’ll check them out on I-Tunes. Who do they sound like?

By Lew

March 12, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Nathan-$15 a month for the box? That’s twice what Comcast charges us. The Extra Innings package is not cheap, but I look forward to seeing it on that HD TV I just got. It will be nice to actually be able to see the scores and other graphics for a change.

By N8

March 12, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

Robert

“Can someone pleae explain that even though Boyer is better than Yates, BOyer is fighting for his job and Yates is secure”

I was thinking just thinking the same exact thing, the instant they flashed those names on the scree of whose job was “secure”.

Unreal, isn’t it?

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

N8:

paste the link so i can watch. thanks

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Lew:

Never made it early to ST to get autos, but did see some good action at Dark Star vs. the Cards 2 days in a row. Thanks for the info. Will be heading to Tigertown tomorrow w/ your sign “DOBloggers Here.”

By Frank

March 12, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Nice shout out for Neil Young. Seems as though he is fading away rather than burning out, however…

By N8

March 12, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Lew

“Nathan-$15 a month for the box?”

I should be more specific. The Box is 9 or 10 bucks, but it’s 14.95 (+ tax of course) for another digital box with the DVR (which I would want to record the games when not home - since my wife has “full control” over the other one. LOL!). In the past, I’ve just used the VCR, when the games were on TBS, if I wasn’t home.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Don’t know that Yates’ job is entirely secure, but do know he’s out of options.

if I had a choice today, I’d keep Boyer. but I don’t know how they’re thinking, if there’s someone (Yates or someone else) they’d risk losing to keep Boyer.

By brian

March 12, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

I am not worried about Tex and McCann struggling this spring. They have obviously proved that they can hit big league pitching. Thorman and Brandon Jones struggles worry me more because they are unproven. After Thorman’s year last year, he really needed a good spring to take some pressure off. Otherwise he may end up being another 4A player

By Reid in EAV

March 12, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

Knucksie doing radio with the Perfessor right now. Great stuff. Niekro was the first autograph I ever got, circa 1982.

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Tex’s average has gone from .182 to .280 in three at-bats.

By chuckw/deadjournalist

March 12, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

DOB -

Back to the last blog, thanks for the info. I completely blanked on type-B being a sandwich pick. My brain was obviously not working … it’s a theme here lately.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 12, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

DOB — you need to remember to make a comment about the slumping guys during the season. It seems like your comments today did the trick for Mac and Tex.

By Bobby's Cox

March 12, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

yup…yates has to go…he sucked last year too. that should be an easy decision for cox

By Sturg

March 12, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

DOB, thanks for everything…

When do you think JJ will pitch again? Smoltz coming back in his place will mess with the current rotation.

By JC FROM UT

March 12, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Looks like Yates may be losing his job to Boyer. What kind of return could we get on Yates? I bet FW calling around.

By bfan54

March 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Ippi

What do you mean by the Steve Avery/Leo Mazzone connection, your reference is way too “inside” for me. Kudos to your homepage, I agree on your line-up assessments, granting the ever “things could change”.

(I skipped from your reference to “post”, so if there was further discussion/clarification I haven’t gotten there yet!)

By DAP

March 12, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

N8 i dont know if you saw any of the game last night, but the unearned runs glavine gave up was on a well hit fly ball to the laft center feild gap that-guess what? andruw would have caught.

at least i think he would have. i guess you never know, but it looked like something i was used to seeing be caught.

By Bobby's Cox

March 12, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Sturg:

Hopefully Buddy C. is dropped from the ST rotation now that smoltz and hampton are going to be in it again. The rotation looks set to me.

By JC FROM UT

March 12, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

JOe Simpson just commented that Joe Brochard has been taking ground balls at first. DOB what do you make of this?

By Sturg

March 12, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

I know but if BC keeps everyone on 4 days rest, JJ will not pitch for a very long time due to the off day on Tuesday. It would make sense to me to have JJ pitch Monday, and slide Hampton back to Wednesday, but DOB said Hampton will pitch on monday.

By BobRobert

March 12, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB, what’s with the comment the Seattle GM made about Soriano? What was he getting at?

By uga-brave

March 12, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

DOB,

dont know if anyone saw woody williams line today vs. the tigers, not exactly cy young stuff. he gave up 5 dingers. houston is actually depending on him. anyone out there still think tom glavine was not worth the risk?

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

THIS JUST IN: Three more cut after game, Tyler Flowers (Myrtle Beach) and shortstops Javier Guzman and Diory Hernandez (both assigned to minor league camp).

By Wazzup

March 12, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

McFann, Neils Boor, Random, you guys put alot of work into doing those stupid links thing. Do you guys realize you are wasting your time because no one clicks on the link? And for those of us who have we don’t want to ever bother again because it is annoying enough to get the blog to load up one time without clicking on your stupid links that make the blog load again? Just quote what it is you are referring to. Italicize it. It helps push the dialogue of the blog along for everyone. Or just continue what you are doing and continue to be ignored. Makes no difference to me. As is, I rather enjoy having 3 bloggers I know I can scroll past because their posts never make any sense.

By Wayne in Utah

March 12, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

N8 While my memory is not as good as yours, I don’t remember giving you a load of crap over Davies (for sure, not HoRam).

But, I was a Davies fan….. Not the first or last time I have been mistaken.

What I do remember, is giving you a load of crap over lots of other things!!!!

:-)

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

chrisklob

How seriously sweet of you to prove my very point!!!

Maybe I was wrong — your comic forte may very well be unintentional irony.

;->

Quick! Say something funny.

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

DOB:

how about a “whats left” list?

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

wazzzuuuuuppppppppp

Yeah, you think they would have figured that out by now. Unfortunately this blog doesn’t work the same as a dedicated blog site. When you link to a post it reprints that post and your reply together so we all know what the crap they are talking about. But hey - what can you expect. After all McFann is just a teenage girl in love !!

By N8

March 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Wayne in Utah

It was NOT you either. I’m sure I argued (ahem….discussed) with many on the subject, including you.

But you have NEVER been a mud-slinger on this blog. Something many (myself included), cannot say.

I was a Davies “fan” as well. The kid had promise. He just didn’t seem to trust his stuff. I figured a change of scenery would do him better, especially a place like KC that didn’t have as much pressure for him to be “replacing” legends, like there was here.

As for Ho-Ram, I think injuries did him in. Which was followed by mechanics (and his mentality) changing to compensate, and he NEVER recovered from that. Nothing to be ashamed of. It happened to Steve Avery too. He never was the same after the injury to his rib-cage, and he fell a lot farther than HoRam did, since he was essentially the nastiest LH pitcher in the game in 91 and 92, IMO.

By Saltywoody

March 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

I’m always reading but rarely posting due to the fantastic (cough) constraints of a new job.

But good to see so many on the blog in midseason “ask a question that’s already been asked a thousand times because I’m too lazy to read any posts that aren’t labeled David O’Brien in bright blue” form.

Also good to see many of the stalwarts keeping the aggregate wit of the blog at just a hair above average (tough duty evening out some of Anders’ strokes of genius and getting back to average).

All in all, this coming season looks extremely promising. Love to see guys like JJ and Anderson coming in and making such positive impressions on the blogmeister and our cigar-smoking, Orr-toting (formerly) manager.

A few questions, assuming they haven’t been asked and/or answered ad nauseum already:

1 I know everyone’s watching Hampton with bated breath. We’re all worried about his legs/arm/psyche/good humor holding up. But, my question is: Hampton’s always been known as one of if not the best hitting pitchers in the bigs. Has all this time off affected his ability to swing the stick? DOB, does Hampton still have the time or the desire to hone his hitting skills, with all the work he’s had to put in rehabbing his body? Or is his focus pretty much exclusively on the mound and his forays there at this point?

2 I can’t get over how great it is even just to think of the idea of Glavine and Smoltzie back together, even if they’re not quite the duo of old (now, they’re just the old duo). But, if we get to the postseason (which I realize is one heck of a leap from here), what does everyone’s postseason starting rotation look like? Do you really want Glavine in there?

My feeling is that, assuming this is a good comparison, JJ can be very much like what Ubaldo Jimenez was for the Rocks last year. Perhaps better, from all the praise he’s drawing.

So, do you throw Smoltz, Huddie, JJ, Smoltz in a short series? Is JJ too young and do you replace him with Glavine? If Hampton’s healthy (and hell is frozen solid), does he get a look and a nod in there?

Keep up the good work and thanks for letting a guy on the left coast live vicariously.

By Steve McP

March 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Links work perfectly well and it easy enough to click on the back button to get back to the blog, don’t know why you are making a fuss about it.

But if you don’t want to click on a link don’t do it, some us like to follow up what others have seen and copying a whole article onto the blog makes it even harder to load and so slows it down a lot more than clicking on the link.

By glove51

March 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

DOB: Here is a clip from the Wilco show at the Cain’s last Saturday night. Most of the show was more rocking than this, but this was the only good clip I could find of one of the Woody Guthrie songs.

Wilco @ the cain’s ballroom in Tulsa singing a woody guthrie song

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

Sturg, Borchard played one game (in the majors) at first base in 2006, so he’s obviously worked out there before and probably played plenty others there in the minors.

Anyway, only way he could possibly make this team is as a backup 1B/OF if the Braves trade Thorman. Only makes sense to try all the obvious options there, and he’s got a 1B’s body (about 6-feet-4). The way he’s hit in camp, Braves want to give him a look at first base to see if he gives them a viable option.

Don’t be surprised if Thorman’s traded. Either way won’t surprise me. But I don’t know if they’d do it without acquiring another 1B, unless they really like what they see with Borchard there, enough to believe he could play it a couple weeks if Tex got hurt….

Someone fill me in on the comment Seattle made about Soriano. Haven’t seen it.

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Wazzup

Thanks for the input. (Actually, linking is hardly any work at all. But anyway … )

I know linking would have been a problem this past winter, when the blog was little better than weekly and got absurdly HUGE, but I had thought the loading problem had become moot once the blog went daily and (presumably) didn’t get so big.

Are you sure it’s not simply your machine and/or set-up that’s slow to load the blog these days? Just asking.

Also, blog loading problems can be avoided if we linked only within a blog, and not link to an precvious day’s blog.

You really think no one follows the links?

(What actually is a lot of work is the selecting, cutting and pasting the pertinent part(s) of a previous post that we want to address. Maybe I’m just being lazy by linking and not quoting.)

However it does shake out, maybe we can compromise at least to this extent: continue to automatically skip our posts only if they contain the blue links; otherwise, check ‘em out a little bit, then skip ‘em if they do indeed actually turn out to make no sense.

By N8

March 12, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

DAP

I was not watching the game last night. I’m sure it won’t be the last time a ball falls in that Andruw “would have caught”.

But as I said, I’m sure there will be many hits that Kotsay comes up with in clutch situations that we’ll say the opposite about Andruw.

Add to that, NOT re-signing Andruw obviously freed up some money to sign Glavine. So the ultimate question is whether the team was/is better with Hampton at #3, JJJ at #4, Chuck (or an injury replacement) at #5, and Andruw in CF?

Or as our roster is right now, an older Glavine at #3, Hampton at #4, JJJ at #5, and Kotsay in CF?

I’ll go with option #2. Which has been my stance since the second JS said Andruw would NOT be returning, and Glavine was signed.

Who knows, maybe our young hurlers step up, Glavine stinks and Andruw tears it up in L.A. and hindsight will make me look like a fool.

But I doubt it.

By Saltywoody

March 12, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Seattle said, in basic terms, that the move to trade Soriano was “more than just about baseball,” ostensibly implying that Soriano should be gotten rid of at all costs. It was said in response to someone’s question of why the heck Seattle would ever get rid of Soriano for HoRam in return.

“Last fall, Mariners president Chuck Armstrong hinted the Ramirez-for-Soriano trade wasn’t Bavasi’s fault, that it happened for more than just baseball reasons.

Armstrong said last Sept. 27, without naming specific off-field incidents, that “a lot of things went on that compelled us to make that move” of Soriano for whatever the Mariners could get.”

By uga-brave

March 12, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

n8,

you cannot be seriously comparing AVERY and HO-RAM.

thats not even close. avery was headed for stardom, horacio was headed for the fourth slot in the rotation.

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Saltywoody:

I think its 29, Huddy, then JJ/Glav in a short series. Best of 7 add Hampton but any pitcher, even Redman (yeah I know he sucked)is contingent on run support.

By Jersey City

March 12, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

You guys are putting a lot of hope on Glavine and Hampton. Unfortunatley, you’re gonna be disapointed by both. In big games they both will fail you…..we’ll see, I’m just a Jersey boy, what do I know?

By David O'Brien

March 12, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Cox plans to pitch Hampton on Monday.

Jurrjens can pitch in a minor league game that off day; that’s how they always do it to keep guys on their schedules.

By Austin

March 12, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

DOB

Do you think we can pencil Boyer into the roataion? At this point there is nothing else he can do pitching wise. 8 IP 6 H 2 BB 7 K. He looks like the same guy from the ‘05 season.

By Saltywoody

March 12, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

stephen jones Redman’s success wasn’t/isn’t contingent on run support. It’s contingent upon whether or not the entire opposing team is made up of blind, paraplegic 8 year olds with crippling diarrhea.

If not? Well, Redman’s boxscores will usually look a lot like Bob Wickman…ugly and bloated.

By Philliesuk

March 12, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Comparing Avery to Horacio? That’s like comparing Maddux to Pete Smith.

By northBeach Scott

March 12, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Disagree DAP that Andruw would have caught the ball in Tuesday’s game that Kotsay was unable reach. Younger Andruw’s strength, prior to going on the Wickman-Paronto Fat F**k plan, was coming in on balls rather than going back. His belly would have been in the way this ST. Even with Andruw’s great ability to react in the right direction at the crack of the bat in his prime he likely does not get that ball.

Not sure it is worth lamenting and fretting about what a former player would or would not do. Consider former players as sunk costs and look forward.

We have a talented and apparently excited group of players for 2008, with enough depth to contend. Out of all due respect for Kotsay/Anderson/Schafer, we are strong defensively in CF.

By N8

March 12, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

uga-brave

I was NOT comparing Avery (my favorite Brave back in the day - kid made Lillibridge look old when he came up), to HoRam.

What I was saying was that, whatever “quality” HoRam was going to be (and he looked like a typical lefty that was gonna pitch for a while), was derailed when the injury bug hit him. He NEVER looked the same after that initial injury (when, at the time his ERA and approach were stellar).

I was saying he had/has nothing to be ashamed of, because better pitchers than him (Avery) have had the same thing happen to their careers.

Avery had the same exact ice in his veins that Smoltz does when it comes to pressure pitching. Dude could bring it. Avery in his prime, did for 9 innings what Rocker did for one inning a game, when he was our closer. THAT is impressive.

DOB

I was confused by the comment about the comment made by the Seattle GM. So I did some looking. The only thing I could find is this quote from a story that mentioned a past comment by the Mariners president:

“Armstrong said last Sept. 27, without naming specific off-field incidents, that “a lot of things went on that compelled us to make that move” of Soriano for whatever the Mariners could get.”

Not sure if that is the comment in question or not. But either way, I don’t remember reading anything negative on the Mariners end about Soriano (or even from you), was there some bad blood or hard feelings? I don’t remember.

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

Steve McP: “copying a whole article onto the blog makes it even harder to load and so slows it down a lot more than clicking on the link.”

Good point — I didn’t think of that.

Thanks. Capt. Caveman: “Yeah, you think they would have figured that out by now.”

Exactly how could I have figured that out absent the kind of feedback Wazzup gave? Did I miss your point?

By stephen jones

March 12, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Salty:

I agree he was uglier than any girl I ever dated. (or any other brother on this blog)

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

DOB

Basically the GM said that Soriano wasn’t that great and that is was a risk-risk trade for both teams. Also alluded to the fact that Soriano was a negative clubhouse presence.

Hope that is correct in “LEW” of an exact quote.

Sorry, I just can’t help pokin’ a little fun.

By northBeach Scott

March 12, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

Per my comments from the weekend, I think we have a good chance of seeing Bobby keep Resop and Boyer over Yates (Yikes his ERA really exploded at the end of the season) and Ring.

Unless Resop and Boyer plus Thorman are required to bring in some bench help. Everyone is looking for situational lefty pitching so with our relative abundance (especially with M. Gonzalez on the mend) this is a position of negotiating strength.

By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

northBeach Scott: “Younger Andruw’s strength, prior to going on the Wickman-Paronto Fat Fk plan, was coming in on balls rather than going back.”

I believe you’ve got it exactly backwards. Andruw’s strength was going back — that’s what allowed him to play so shallow and catch so many line drives that would have normally fallen in for hits.

By Duke

March 12, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

Couldawouldashoulda, shouldnt you be worrying about trying to graduate and stufying instead of being on this blog 24/7. Although you were in The Big Apple for a week doesnt mean you can come back here and make absurd post as you did earlier. It’s quite ok though since I did scorch you on the links at Reynolds Plantation. Thats right folks I put it to him pretty badly. Sorry couldawouldashoulda, shouldastydaondarange for another week or so. Ha.

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

Neils Booring

I figured you would know b/c you are hitting the link yourself aren’t you??

It’s always better to just “cut and paste” the comment you are referring to. It’s easier for the blog to read and you might get more participation in your discussion. That’s all I was saying. You may now calm down and return to your regularly scheduled post.

By richbrave

March 12, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

MR> COX:

No Gwinnett yet. We have first dibs this year. Sorry. Man, am I going to enjoy the 42nd edition of the R-Braves!! Whoo-Whoo.

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

DOB

That reminds me to ask you a question that was being debated at Taco Mac for about an hour. Some people believe in a theory that 2 teams will trade a problem player/injury rehabbing player/or a marginal player going into free agency - for a similar player from another team hoping that a change of scenery will provide a boost in play but also hoping that by trading for them they will be able to sign them to a cheaper deal b/c the player will be grateful for the opportunity and feel wanted.

(that has to be a run-on sentence)

I think teams just dump a guy and take what they can get and hope to free up some money for the winter.

What do you think there - DOBIE???

By uga-brave

March 12, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

N8,

i knew that you were not comparing them, read and respect many of your posts, but the post was a little ambiguous.

thought you might be wearing your spandex and goat boats a little tight tonight.lol.

By N8

March 12, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

Niels Boor

Your 11:26 is EXACTLY correct.

Now back to my HoRam comments. (not sure why I’m wasting so much time on him, since I surely don’t miss him)

In 2004 at the time of his first injury - May 25th was his last start, (don’t remember the specifics of the injury. shoulder?), he was 2-4 with a 2.28 ERA. He had made 9 starts (Braves were 4-5 in those starts), and ALL NINE were quality starts. Never going less than 6 innings, never giving up more than 3 ER. Giving up 2 or less runs in 5 of the starts.

I’d say he was on his way to a very nice year ERA wise, before the injury. Lack of run support cost him and the team wins in his 9 starts (Braves scored a TOTAL of 29 runs in his starts - 9 of them came in one start which both HoRam and the team won - leaving 21 total runs in the other 8 starts for a whopping 2.62 runs of support).

Couple that with his 12-4 rookie campaign, and we surely had somebody we could/should be excited about.

Like I said. He hasn’t been the same since.

By BabyGoatEater

March 12, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

After reading some of the comments on the blog about Soriano….I was hooked. I decided to do some research. This guy can pretty much sum up what we will ever know about the “mystery”.

By Lew

March 12, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Nathan-They sound like Blackmore’s Rainbow. The singer actually sang on the last Rainbow album before Ritchie decided to be Henry VIII and play lute instead of electric guitar.

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this

Neils and Northbeach*

Actually Andrews strength was quick recognition and reaction to the ball. Playing shallow allowed him to catch balls before they hit the ground. He was never considered a speed burner but he was able to get a good jump on the play and take a direct path to the ball whether it be in front or to the wall. He was also blessed with a god-given ability to put his body into any position to make the play - diving forward, over the head on the run, and going up the wall. At his peak with the Braves you would have to give him at least 10% credit for all of the Cy Young’s that were won here.

He may not be living up to his “potential” according to some, but not many have had their potential be placed so high.

By BabyGoatEater

March 12, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

Oh Yeah, Go to the “Mariners have a secret” post. Thats the story I’m referencing. ……..

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By Niels Boor

March 12, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

N8, DAP, northBeach Scott

Setting aside the question of whether Andruw would have caught the ball that flew over Kotsay’s head Tues night (at the every moment the GM was praising his defense in the TV booth, which I thought was ironic and/or embarrassing, for which DOB has already blasted me — DOB is of the opinion that Andruw would not have caught it, not without a JETPACK) —

Putting that play aside, what do you all think of Garko’s “double” in the third inning tonight? Imo, Kotsay had a telling mental lapse — he apparently assumed that Garko would not be going for second, and consequently did not come up throwing as soon as he gloved the ball. In fact, I am 100% sure that Francoeur had to tell him that Garko was going before he turned around and let fly.

If he had been mentally prepared for the possibility that Garko might gun for second, he could have come up throwing a heckuva lot faster than he eventually did, and I think would have thrown him out “trying to stretch a single”.

What do you think?

By Wayne in Utah

March 12, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

Guys, I sure don’t see any reason for comparing Andruw and Kotsay in the field or with the bat. The deal is done, good or bad. Let’s just move on from there.

Does that make sense?

I hope we don’t have to listen to any of this “Andruw would have caught that ball” talk this year. Andruw is a Dodger. He was a great CF while here, but the man is gone. Good luck Andruw, and “knock ‘em dead” Kotsay!

Nite all…..fighting a head cold, and about to fall asleep at the keyboard.

By Capt. Caveman

March 12, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

OK HERE IS THE SORIANO REMARK

This is the type of stuff that drives people nuts. At least now it’s out in the open and not just back-channel whispering. I’m talking about former Mariners setup man Rafael Soriano. The reasons why the M’s would trade him for Horacio Ramirez is fast becoming the stuff of urban legend in media circles.

Mariners president Chuck Armstrong adds to the mystery with this cryptic missive to the Associated Press. Here’s the paragraph in question:

Armstrong said the disastrous trade that brought Horacio Ramirez from Atlanta for proven veteran setup reliever Rafael Soriano wasn’t all Bavasi’s fault. Armstrong said, without naming specific off-field incidents, that “a lot of things went on that compelled us to make that move” of Soriano for whatever the Mariners could get.

I don’t know. To me, a simple “our GM made a really bad trade, it happens.” might have sufficed. I’m aware, even having been here only one year, that Soriano was not Mr. Popularity in the clubhouse. But other than having an entourage of friends who weren’t players, no one from the organization has been willing to spell out exactly what its problem was with him. That he got a line drive off the head? That he wasn’t always available to pitch?

Seems he worked out those problems in Atlanta, where he’s made 71 appearances. Not sure why that couldn’t have happened here. Maybe the folks doing the player handling are different down there? Who knows? As I’ve said, the M’s love to keep secrets: especially in areas where they appear to have messed up big-time.

And do you know what? Perhaps there is a really good reason for why they did what they did with Soriano. Perhaps not. But where I come from, if you’re not going to spell out the transgression, it’s best to leave the innuendo to the Page Six gossip columnists. Maybe Oklahoma State football coach Mike Gundy can ask Armstrong if he’s ever had children (I know he has, as his son, a fellow blogger, is a self-proclaimed fan of this blog). I’m sure Soriano’s mother wouldn’t be happy if she was reading the AP story. Then again, we’re not exactly sure what he’s subtly being accused of here. Maybe he just walks funny.

And yes, I’ve talked to the other reporters and columnists who’ve been here for years. None of them knows what Soriano supposedly did either. Whatever it was, the Braves were apparently OK with it. The players? Much of the same innuendo, but nothing concrete. Lots of stories. None of it team-destroying stuff. Not everyone is going to be popular in a clubhouse. And Soriano wasn’t the first player to have a group of outsider friends following him around. But you don’t just throw away potentially the game’s best set-up man for nothing.

So far, with these hollow explanations coming out of Mariners HQ, that’s all I see here — nothing. Don’t worry though, it’s not like the team paid a price. Not like it just blew a playoff chance.

By N8

March 13, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

Lew

I’ll check them out. But not now. The wife is going to bed (computer with the internet is in our bedroom - my 9 year old doesn’t need to be on the internet), and she can’t fall asleep when I’m typing or listening to music.

So like always, I’ll be back later. LOL!

uga

“i knew that you were not comparing them, read and respect many of your posts, but the post was a little ambiguous.”

Sorry. LOL! Just wanted to clarify that the two are not equal in my mind.

On a side note, you using the word ambiguous in your post reminded my of two of my favorite SNL characters: Ace and Gary.

Otherwise known as the Ambiguously Gay Duo.

Those cartoons crack me up. If I’m not mistaking Steve Carell did the voice over “description” of the cartoons. Good stuff indeed.

By Capt. Caveman

March 13, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

BOORING

I think you are over analyzing and looking way to hard to find a problem with a veteran like Kotsay. It’s Spring Training dude.

Do you critique Little League games like this too?? I can just hear it:

Man that 10 yr old we picked up over the winter looked a little non-chalant out there blowing bubbles in the outfield. That kid we had last year was better be he was using dip already and that wont interfere with your play like bubble gum. Let’s go ask the kid’s dad what he thinks.

Calm down dude, calm down.

By Niels Boor

March 13, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman

Sorry, I missed your point.

I thought you were saying that we should have known that people were not hitting our links, but you were actually saying (I think) that we should have known that the blog loaded slowly when the link was hit.

Well, yeah, I’ve been hitting my own links, as well as others’, but I haven’t had any slow loading problems.

No big — sure didn’t mean to come across as whatever may be your preferred antonym of calm (frantic? agitated? perturbed? upset? edgy?).

Meantime, keep up the good work giving you know lieu h3ll. I’ll chime in myself from time to time.

By N8

March 13, 2008 12:15 AM | Link to this

One last post about Andruw’s defense in CF.

While he certainly is/was GREAT. Let’s take a small factor (that I’ve mentioned before - and don’t think is that far off), in his seemingly “loss of a step” out there.

It can be summed up in four words (or names)…Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and the most important, IMO…Pat Corrales.

Pat “set” the defense, and those 3 HOF pitchers RARELY (if ever) missed their “spots” badly enough to cross up the defense. That certainly aided Andruw (along with his sonar-like ability to read the ball off the bat), in making difficult catches look easy.

But if I’m not mistaking, Lofton, Grissom, Prime-time and Nixon didn’t seem to be too shabby out there either. Neither will Kotsay as long as our pitchers don’t “hang them out to dry”.

Goodnight (for now)….all.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

My response to the Seattle comment and all that: Whatever. Seriously. The Braves showed how they feel he fit in their clubhouse when they gave him a two-year contract after his first season in Atlanta.

So why would anyone connected to the Braves care about cryptic messages from Mariners officials trying to explain away trading for Horacio because they’ve finally cut their losses with him?

On a pertinent note, though, Roger McDowell said still no firm date set for Soriano’s return. I think they’ll pitch him in next couple days.

Had a player ask me today, when is Soriano going to pitch? So when they’re asking, you know there’s some concern.

By uga-brave

March 13, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

N8,

could not agree with you more on your last post.

andruw’s first step was almost always right. made the hard plays look easy.

comparing any of his replacements in a defensive regard is not fair. he was as good as any of us will ever see.

as for now andruw’s chapter in atlanta is closed. i for one wish him luck and no matter how we feel about his last season here he should be applauded for the fact he played everyday whether he was hurt or not.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

Niels, it’s March 13, Kotsay is healthy, running well, and even all the Braves who loved Andruw (and that’s all of them that I know) haven’t said a word in weeks about missing him.

Meanwhile, while everyone with the Braves is pleased with everything they’ve seen from Kotsay, including being in outstanding condition despite coming back from back surgery, folks in L.A. are wondering how the overweight guy they’ve got won 10 Gold Gloves and if he’ll hit his weight and all the rest. Read the papers out there.

Oh, and take a deep breath. It’s March 13. Of the things to be skeptical about with Kotsay (namely not staying healthy in recent seasons, having reduced OBP and power numbers), being careless on the bases or not hustling have NEVER been criticisms anyone has had of him.

Well, except you in the second week of March.

Seriously, all the things to talk about with this team and you’ve twice in a week ranted about Kotsay? What, do you want the trade reversed and the Braves to offer arbitration and give $16 mill to Andruw for 2008? I’m pretty sure it can’t happen.

Oh, by the way, I know this isn’t as important to you as the apparently crucial, telltale baserunning blunder you spotted tonight, but Kotsay is hitting .320 with two strikeouts in 25 at-bats.

By uga-brave

March 13, 2008 12:47 AM | Link to this

DOB,

i agree sounds like somebody is trying to cover their butt.

not to encouraged by the fact they have not scheduled an appearance. not really gonna worry till i hear, ” HE IS FLYING BACK TO ATLANTA FOR AN MRI”

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

Forgot to mention, when Chuck makes his spring debut tomorrow against the Tigers, he’ll get the start and go a scheduled two innings. Jo-Jo Reyes will follow him with a scheduled four innings of relief (it was Reyes’ day to start, but Cox didn’t think it fair to have Chuck pitch in relief in his first game, wanted it to be a real start).

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 12:53 AM | Link to this

Speaking of Dodgers, anybody see what Furcal’s doing out there? Batting .333 with THREE triples, a homer, seven RBI and a .412 OBP in 30 at-bats.

Andruw, by the way, is hitting .214 (6-for-28) with two homers and eight strikeouts.

By uga-brave

March 13, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this

lets hope chuck kept to his norm and did not read any scouting reports on the tigers. they took poor woody williams deep 5 times today.

By chrisklob

March 13, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this

Andruw, by the way, is hitting .214 (6-for-28) with two homers and eight strikeouts.

That’s mid-season form right there.

By Kev

March 13, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this

DOB

Is Jeff Bennett pitching tomorrow too???

By midtownBrave

March 13, 2008 1:25 AM | Link to this

Soriano is gonna pitch in a couple of days?? I’ve been hearing that for a “couple” of days now!

By The Piece

March 13, 2008 2:34 AM | Link to this

HEY DOB

That story on Anderson was interesting except for one thing: Ivy League schools don’t HAVE athletic scholarships. Someone was lying. From Wikipedia (‘Ivy League’): “Unlike most Division I athletic conferences, the Ivy League prohibits the granting of athletic scholarships; all scholarships awarded are need-based (financial aid).[62]’

By The Piece

March 13, 2008 2:43 AM | Link to this

HEY DOB

That story on Anderson was interesting except for one thing: Ivy League schools don’t HAVE athletic scholarships. Someone was lying. From Wikipedia (‘Ivy League’): “Unlike most Division I athletic conferences, the Ivy League prohibits the granting of athletic scholarships; all scholarships awarded are need-based (financial aid).[62]’

By BA

March 13, 2008 3:26 AM | Link to this

Maybe the Seattle Mariners are the type of baseball “family” that eats dinner in the living room watching T.V. And maybe in Bobby’s clubhouse you all have to sit at the table. Dumb analogy, I know. But I think you catch my drift; if any player had hangers-on, I think Bobby would nip it in the bud. He’s old-shcool. No radio in the clubhouse, they tell me. In my experience, some spanish and/or latin people can appear aloof when in reality they feel shy about they’re lack of english. But what I saw last year from Soriano was a grown man who was handling his job quite well. That alone (I’m sure) goes for a lot in the clubhouse. That and the absolutely filthy 99mph heater he brings to the office. Anyway, we’ll never know, at least not for about ten years. That’s about how long it takes for this “clubhouse” stuff to hit the book racks- post retirement. I’m with you about Kotsay, ‘ole D.O.B, and I would add that the guy appears to have a pretty good arm. I’m still angry with Furcal, because he left and I can’t where my Furcal road jersey anymore. At least not for another five years, when he’ll probably be back with the Braves in camp to win the back-up third-base job.

By Niels Boor

March 13, 2008 5:38 AM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman

Nah, I’m not overanalyzing. Really.

It’s just something I happened to notice at the time, and pointed out to my Mom as we were watching.

When the replay seemed to bear me out, I thought I’d mention it here and see if anyone else saw things the same way.

That’s all. I’m rooting for Kotsay — I think the Braves need to hire ALL the former Marlins who ever kicked their ashes, just to lift that wildcard jinx.

And I AM CALM, g*******.

8-)

*Sheesh, DOB — it’s a monumentally wild stretch to categorize either of my two mild comments as a rant. C’mon.

The first one, I just thought it was really, really funny that as Wren was praising Kotsay’s defense, a ball gets hit over his head. Never meant to imply that it was Kotsay’s fault — just appreciating the ironic juxtaposition and realizing that sometimes life does better than merely imitate art.

Last night, Garko caught him by surprise. I’m not expecting him to be perfect, not comparing him to Andruw, got nothing against him — I just mentioned something I (thought I) noticed, and was looking for confirmation and/or refutation. Certainly wasn’t looking for accusations and excuses, nor was I trying to pick a figh, just start a discussion.

That’s all.

Okay, now I breathe in … . .

And now I breathe out … . .

There you go, DOB.

PS: Btw, I never mentioned anything about any baserunning blunders, by Kotsay or anyone else. Who’s ranting now?

By AmazinsAgin08

March 13, 2008 6:30 AM | Link to this

It’s just something I happened to notice at the time, and pointed out to my Mom as we were watching.Boor

Your mom? The sarcastic nasty Niels lives with his mommy? Now I get where all those posts come from. Lotsa frustration there, huh? What grade are you in exactly?

By AmazinsAgin08

March 13, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

Hey,Hey. Pedro had a good sim. Things are looking great. Gonna seriously kick some Braves’ butt again this summer. Go Mets!

By Capt. Caveman

March 13, 2008 7:03 AM | Link to this

FoxSports website has an article on 40+ ballplayers and it starts out focusing on Maddux,Smoltz,and Glavine. The guy who wrote it is an idiot - he says that Smoltz and Glavine are hoping to be a 1-2 punch for the Braves and that Glavine had a “brief” stay with the Mets. 5 yrs is brief?? I thought Hudson was our ace. Oh well - I will take this moment to say that we are fortunate to have DOB around here. I don’t “worship” his blogness like some people but you can’t deny that he’s good at his job.

Alright DOB - quit sleeping and post something already !!!!

By Gil in Mechanicsville

March 13, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this

AmazinsAgin08 Who you trying to convince dude, us or yourself? The Mets are not even going to kick the Nats’ butts this year, much less the Braves. Look for the Mets to be battling for third this year. They have allowed themselves to become old and they are not going to make it past July this year.

By TNRON

March 13, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

Hey WAZZUP. MCFann is a very nice young lady.As far as I am concerned you can keep YOUR sick demented opinions to yourself.

By rlpmetro

March 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

DOB…I am a longtime Braves fan now living in SWFL (Fort Myers area to be exact). I have long been frustrated that the Braves don’t make any Spring Training trips to SWFL, especially seeing as we have the Red Sox and the Twins here in town. With the Rays moving to Port Charlotte next season, do you think there is a chance we could at least get a split squad game down here soon? It sure would be nice to not have to go to Orlando to see them.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

ripmetro, sure there’s a chance. But since the Braves didn’t go over to Port Charlotte to play the Rangers very often….

The first one, I just thought it was really, really funny that as Wren was praising Kotsay’s defense, a ball gets hit over his head. Never meant to imply that it was Kotsay’s fault — just appreciating the ironic juxtaposition and realizing that sometimes life does better than merely imitate art.Niels

No, this would be coincidence or bad timing, not “irony.”

By bravesfaninmassland

March 13, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

DOB Relating to your much earlier posts (sorry, getting to this blog a little late) about hip hop, I agree completely with your points about not dismissing an entire genre for the sins of those most in the commercial spotlight. If you’re looking for some good, more recent acts, you should look into The Coup’s Pick a Bigger Weapon (for those times when you’re feeling a bit political) and Why?’s brand new Alopecia (I’m going to keep throwing out music recommendations to you until I get you to bite on something). Also, you’ve made several references to Uncle Tupelo in past blogs. I still maintain that they put on some of the best live shows of any band in the 1990s. Saw them in Wisconsin just before Anodyne came out and they put on an unbelievably loud and raucuous show. Post-Tupelo, do you find yourself drawn more to Wilco or to Son Volt?

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

The Piece: You’re right about the scholarships. I went back to change it at 1 a.m. last night (someone else noticed that, too) but I guess no one was around at that time on the online side to make the chance. Anyway, changing it to “recruited by” instead of offered scholarship. Ivy League schools give financial aid packages, to athletes just as they do other students. Just so used to writing “scholarship” in these cases, that when someone speaks of being recruited by this or that school, I think athletic scholarship. My bad. But I don’t think it changes the point — an Ivy League school wanted him to attend and play basketball.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

FoxSports website has an article on 40+ ballplayers and it starts out focusing on Maddux,Smoltz,and Glavine. The guy who wrote it is an idiot - he says that Smoltz and Glavine are hoping to be a 1-2 punch for the Braves and that Glavine had a “brief” stay with the Mets. 5 yrs is brief?? I thought Hudson was our aceCaptCaveman

CaptCaveman: Pretty dumb statement, huh? The writer who wrote that must’ve been 40+ himself. Oh, wait…

By klesko12

March 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Good Article on Diaz in the news lately.

Persistence Makes Him a Hit By Dick Scanlon The Ledger WINTER HAVEN |

Matt Diaz had two strikes on him when he showed up for spring training two years ago. He was almost 28 years old and had spent most of the preceding seven years in the Tampa Bay and Kansas City minor league systems. But from Day One with the Atlanta Braves, his career took an abrupt turn for the better. My first spring training in Tampa Bay I was (jersey number) 99. In Kansas City, I was No. 74,” he recalled. “When I walked in my first spring training here, No. 23 was hanging in my locker. I said: ‘Oh my goodness, I may have a shot.’ “

Diaz still wears No. 23 for the Braves. He has a growing young family and a .320 career batting average, and he just signed his first million-dollar contract. Every morning, he leaves from his Winter Haven home at 6:30 and drives to Disney’s Wide World of Sports, where the Braves train in the spring.

No wonder it’s his favorite time of the year.

“I don’t take it for granted, my wife doesn’t take it for granted,” Diaz said. “Before this started, I was with three teams in two years.”

“It’s great being around the same group. Now, that’s not to say this isn’t a business and things couldn’t change immediately; I could get traded tomorrow. But just coming to camp with the same group of guys is a refreshing feeling.”

At almost every stage of his career, the 6-foot-1, 205-pound Diaz has had to overcome the perception that there is nothing exceptional about him as an athlete.

“A lot of people focus too much on the body, or on the athleticism, or on the arm strength,” said Mike Martin, his coach at Florida State. “He just doesn’t profile as a professional star, but the numbers don’t lie. We’re playing a game of skill, not necessarily of great athletic ability.”

Diaz got his big break at the professional level when Braves manager Bobby Cox watched some video of his swing in December 2005. By then the Devil Rays and Royals had pretty much written Diaz off, and he was having doubts about continuing the pursuit of his dream.

“The week before my first call-up in Tampa (in 2003), we were at a Wal-Mart, and I wanted Mach3 razor blades,” he said. “My wife and I looked at each other; we couldn’t afford ‘em. So I said I’ll just shave with the disposable razors and nick my face up. And then three or four days later I get called up to the big leagues, and (in the clubhouse in St. Petersburg) the first thing I notice in the bathroom is Mach3s lined up everywhere.

“It got me to thinking: ‘What am I doing to this poor girl? She’s a college girl, she’s been on the dean’s list and I can’t afford to buy good razor blades for us.’”

But Cox liked Diaz’s swing, and on Dec. 19, 2005, the Braves traded pitcher Ricardo Rodriguez to the Royals for him.

“When we got him, his reputation was he could hit,” Cox said. “He got a chance to play a lot more with us, and he hit. Some guys, for one reason or another, don’t get a chance to get in there. He’s taken advantage of it and made the most of it.”

Matthew E. Diaz was born March 3, 1978, in Portland, Ore., the son of parents who had been athletes at the University of Pennsylvania. His father, Ed Diaz, is a nondenominational minister who soon moved the family to Atlanta briefly, then to Lake Wales and to Lakeland.

Matt had the advantages of having a baseball enthusiast as a dad and three brothers who played baseball well. His older brother, Zach, was a left-handed pitcher who preceded Matt to FSU.

Matt was primarily a catcher at Santa Fe Catholic High School in Lakeland. To this day, he is the Braves’ emergency catcher and also fills in at first base occasionally. John Carpenter, his coach at Santa Fe, still thinks that is his best position.

“He had instincts at first base, things you can’t coach,” said Carpenter, now the coach at All Saints’ Academy in Winter Haven. “But I think he’s become an above-average outfielder without getting credit for it. He’s always been the kind of person that if you let him know what he’s weak at, he’ll do what he has to do to get better.”

Diaz hit .384 with 43 home runs in two years at FSU. It was there that he met Leslee, his wife, who had grown up in Winter Haven. They live in southeast Winter Haven with their two children.

The Devil Rays drafted Diaz in the 17th round in 1999. After a couple of years, it became clear he had to get out of their system to succeed.

“It’s no knock on them. Look at the outfielders they had - Rocco (Baldelli), (Carl) Crawford, (Delmon) Young,” Diaz said. “They had a logjam of good, young outfielders and I was on the older side of that, so I was not going to get a look.”

He got four brief looks from the Royals in 2005, but the Braves proved to be the right fit. Cox appreciates Diaz’s positional flexibility and Diaz has produced consistently as a hitter. He was rewarded this winter with a $1.225 million, one-year contract, not enormous by major league standards but not bad for a guy who had to buy cheap razor blades not long ago.

So far, the highlight of Diaz’s career came in August 2006, when he tied a 109-year-old National League record with hits in 10 consecutive plate appearances. It is the kind of record his father would have expected him to get.

“He’s always been streaky, and when he gets on a roll you can’t get him out,” Ed Diaz said. “The Braves got him when he was healthy and hot.”

As much of a kick as the hitting streak was, Matt takes more pride in his .320 career average. “The 10 hits … people can get hot,” he said. “That was fun. It did kind of get me on the national scene for a second, and it was a lot of fun to get a printout of all the people who had that record. I couldn’t believe that record had been around that long and I was part of it. But I’ve always thought a batting average is a measure of consistency, and to me that’s more important.”

When his playing career is over, Diaz plans to either coach or go into the ministry. He has no way of knowing how long this career will last, but he is enjoying the ride, even the recognition part. He recently overheard a little boy saying: “Mom, that’s Matt Diaz!”

“She looked at him and goes: ‘No way, he’s too short,’” Diaz recalled. “I just kind of smiled and gave the kid a wink, like I understood what he said.”

By mark

March 13, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

DOB, have you read the response to Terrence Moore’s article about Glavine? Some guy named Larry Jones, as we all know is Chipper’s name, was going on about how the rest of the rotation after Smoltz/Hudson, is a bust, minus jurrjens. Another blogger was saying we have 6 or 7 candidates to start, and how other teams would love to be in that predictament. He disagreed we have that much potential lined up. I told him that, we had Johan on the hook for a loss last year, if Wickman didnt perform one of his many bombs. Also, you guys are counting on a big season from someone who

By mark

March 13, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

DOB, have you read the response to Terrence Moore’s article about Glavine? Some guy named Larry Jones, as we all know is Chipper’s name, was going on about how the rest of the rotation after Smoltz/Hudson, is a bust, minus jurrjens. Another blogger was saying we have 6 or 7 candidates to start, and how other teams would love to be in that predictament. He disagreed we have that much potential lined up. I told him that, we had Johan on the hook for a loss last year, if Wickman didnt perform one of his many bombs. Also, you guys are counting on a big season from someone who hasnt pitched big innings in almost 2 years

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Bravesfaninmassland: Tough call on Wilco/Son Volt. For years it was Wilco, for me. Not lately. With Wilco’s too-experimental (at least for me) egg album and their most recent too-mellow (again, for me) album, I’ve much preferred the last couple of Son Volt albums. But the live Wilco album a couple years ago was great….

I’ve got a couple albums by The Coup — Pick a Bigger Weapon and Party Music. Great stuff.

By Niels Boor

March 13, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

AmazinsAgin’08

“sarcastic nasty” — nice alliteration. Good name for a parody punk band.

Didn’t you know that it’s a great Southern tradition for mothers and sons to watch the Braves together?

Just ask my Mom.

(And I can move out anytime I want, so there.)

8-(

Btw, the Mets certainly are aging — it’s refreshingly healthy for you to admit that right up front in your handle.

Nice analogy, BA — insightful and evocative, not dumb at all.

By nOLIE

March 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

He’s always been the kind of person that if you let him know what he’s weak at, he’ll do what he has to do to get better.”Article on Diaz

yeah that’s what I heard and saw while he was with Fla St. Great guy and a real striver, just doesn’t look like the “classic” athletic ballplayer. I do wish he’d walk a little more though. Gee what a surprise. ;-)

By car3boogie

March 13, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

DOB Good stuff on Josh Anderson, Saw him at the Braves Fan Fest and he was the only reason it was not a bust for me and my Boys. He Spent a few minutes with my 10 yr old in the outfield of the HR derby field and made quite an impression on him. Gotta pull for the good guys

By Steve McP

March 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Enjoyed the Diaz piece, it must give hope to lots of players that are of a certain age. Did you hear TP talking about coaching him yesterday evening? Basically he said that he doesn’t know how Diaz’s swing works, but while it is he isn’t going to interfere, other than to point out when he seems to be overbalancing.

By the way, going back to yesterday evening’s discussion, the article was also a nice example of how a link would probably cause less congestion on the blog than a 26 paragraph post.

By klesko12

March 13, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Nolie:

I actually found that article on Warchant on the Section B site. Not a Nole but grew up in Thomasville and was on there because of the UGA-FSU series.

By klesko12

March 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Steve:

Sorry, I’m in Afghanistan and don’t get to read the blog all the time, maybe next time I’ll post a link if I get a feel like contributing something that everyone might enjoy.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Mark, Terry Moore is sitting about 15 feet from me, eating a bowl of Raisin Bran. Should I ask him about the response?

Nah, I’ve gotta get ready and head to Lakeland.

Later

By MasivAtack

March 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Youre contributing plenty Klesko, I’m gonna assume you are not just over there for the scenery!

By kdbanks

March 13, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Hold on…if a ball getting hit over Kotsay’s head while he’s being praised for defense isn’t irony, then what is it when you’ve got 10,000 spoons and all you need is a knife? Or rain on your wedding day? Or a “No Smoking” sign on your cigarette break. I’m confused.

By Serge45

March 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

DOB - Was that you using “Terry“‘s byline to hate on Hansbrough the other day?

By flange1

March 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

DOB,

Thanks for the cool articles on the new Braves. I have enjoyed learning a bit more about each of them.

It has been an interesting spring and it will be interesting to see how the rest plays out.

In terms of the bullpen, it seems to me like the guys who have pitched the best and should have a spot are Moylan, Soriano (I know he has not pitched yet) Acosta Ohman and Boyer.

If those guys are on the team (again nothing in stone that they are) who has looked better to you Yates, Ring, Resop, Bennett or Carlisle?

Unless a trade is made, I guess that Yates and Resop will make the team.

It seems to be quiet on the Bennett front, any reactions to Bennett at all?

Thanks!

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 13, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

It’s Thursday, which means that Bill Shanks called in and spoke with 960 The Ref in Athens. My good friend Radio Tech Bill puts the podcasts up online, so here is the link for this morning’s Bill Shanks radio interview

And for those of you interested, this is the fourth (or so) week in a row that Shanks has called in, so the rest of his phone/radio interviews are still on the site at 960 The Ref. You may have to search in the archives, but they’re there. Enjoy!

By knowitall

March 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Tomahawkin, catching up on the blogging from last night. I agree with you about BET/MTV. I can’t stand either network anymore. Thank God for the internet because otherwise there would be no venue to watch good music videos.

By jeanE

March 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Go Javy!! I admit, I’m really rooting for him to be able to finish his career where it started, as a Brave. He can still hit the long ball & we need that off the bench. If Glavine’s comfortable with him, what more can you ask for? Come on, Javy, we’re pulling for you! Also, totally agree Matty Diaz deserves to play every day, his defense has improved tremendously & the guy can hit. We need a speedster on this team, keep the speedy guy.

By jeanE

March 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Go Javy!! I admit, I’m really rooting for him to be able to finish his career where it started, as a Brave. He can still hit the long ball & we need that off the bench. If Glavine’s comfortable with him, what more can you ask for? Come on, Javy, we’re pulling for you! Also, totally agree Matty Diaz deserves to play every day, his defense has improved tremendously & the guy can hit. We need a speedster on this team, keep the speedy guy.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Morning Denizens. Wasn’t that fun last night ? Free Braves baseball on the Internet and nine runs in the fourth inning. Pendleton , Niekro and Francoeur being interviewed during the game and the Braves blowing the Indians out , it was quit a treat.

Anyway , time to throw some numbers out there for Braves nation to chew on.

16 games in the books and a record of 10-5-1 (that looks like a Hockey stat). The Braves have outscored the opposition 102 to 64 while posting an ERA of 3.25 and scoring 6.37 runs per game.

It was kind of refreshing to watch Bobby Cox throw a whole new lineup on the field in the fifth inning. All those kids , so much talent , ain’t it great ?

By Jim

March 13, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Is today the day that Chuck James gets to pitch in a game? If so, will he go 2 innings? It looks almost certain that he will start/spend the year in Richmond, but if Hampton goes down (or can’t pitch up to previous standards) or something happens to the 40+ers, he will be an important member of the rotation (if healthy).

I agree that Resop and Yates probably round out the bullpen with Boyer and the 4 locks. I would suspect that Ring is the main contender with these two for one of the last spots. Does Boyer going 2 innings his last two times out indicate that he may inherit the Oscar Villareal role from last year?

By Murphy

March 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Klesko12- ThankIs for the great article on Diaz. I have found myself asking where he came from a lot over the last 2 years. It just seemed unbelievable that someone would let that kind of hitter/player go. Unlike some of the others on here, I like that the whole article was right there as well. Thanks for what you are doing over there as well!! DOB-Nice article on Anderson. I am excited to see this guy play! We have lots of power hitters on our team, so I do not get why some guys on here question adding a spark-plug spray hitter with speed. We need those guys as well!

By Stephen

March 13, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I know we’ve got pitching depth right now, but think that the Braves will give Horacio Ramirez a look?

By nOLIE

March 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I actually found that article on Warchant on the Section B site. Not a Nole but grew up in Thomasville and was on there because of the UGA-FSU series.Klesko12

Used to drive through Thomasville 6-8 times a week going back & forth from Carrabelle on the coast 50 miles SW of Tallahasse to Atlanta in the 70s and 80s. Nice little town back then. Must be 20 years(golly where does time go to?) sice I was there last. Probably some changes since then.Thanks 4 the note

By McFann

March 13, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Did anybody hear what our announcers were saying when they talked about Bobby getting hit on the neck with a baseball or something? How did it happen?

Thanks!

By The Man

March 13, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

I have to admit I was skeptical of Diaz at first when he came to the Braves. If he could not grab a spot with Kansas City and Tampa Bay and play regularly one had to doubt his ability. What a pleasant surprise he has turned out to be.

By DAP

March 13, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

matt diaz is the man! just seems like a really great guy. im really looking forward to seeing what he can do as the everyday leftfielder. he doesnt have alot of power, but he hit 12 HR last year…i think its reasonable to think he’d hit at least 15 playing everyday, which isnt bad, and i dont see his average going below his career mark of .320. now if he could just walk about twice as much…(only 16 walks in 358 ABs…)

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

We’ve arrived safely in Lakeland. Braves still not here. They decided to skip BP after the night game, bus wasn’t leaving Dark Star until 10:30 a.m.

Jim: Chuck starts and pitches two innings, then Jo-Jo scheduled to pitch four in relief….

Flange1: I think Bennett, with his late start and fact he still has an option, is a no-brainer for Richmond….

Serge45, no it wasn’t, but I pretty much concur.

By Jim

March 13, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

It is curious that the article on Diaz said that Bobby Cox was attracted to Diaz in 2005 by noticing his swing. Diaz brings a lot of intangables to his game, but the beauty of his swing is not one of them. He hits despite having one of the most unorthodox swings of any good hitter that I have seen. I wonder to which aspect of Diaz’s swing that Cox was referring other than the end result it often produced.

By superman

March 13, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

does anyone know if todays game is on tv?

By superman

March 13, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

does anyone know if todays game is on tv?

By klesko12

March 13, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

DOB:

Here’s a concert I’m trying to attend when I get back to WA State in May, called the Sasquatch festival @ the Gorge. Take a look: http://www.sasquatchfestival.com/

Nolie: Its a nice town, my folks own a bbq restaurant there(started it in 77).

By ippississiM

March 13, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

bfan:

Steve avery’s first MLB full year was also Mazzone’s first year as pitching coach. Also, The Brave’s championship streak precisely coincided with Mazzone’s tenure, although that was outside the scope of what I was trying to point out at the time.

By G_M

March 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Superman: No TV; 640 AM/94.9 FM AND MLB.com, if you buy the audio package.

By nOLIE

March 13, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Nolie: Its a nice town, my folks own a bbq restaurant there(started it in 77).Klesko12

I remember stopping for BBQ a coupla times in the early 80s. Can’t remember the name of the restaurant right off the top of my head after all these years, but it mighta been theres. It was goood, for sure. And stay healthy over there.

By McFann

March 13, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Do FSN South and SportsSouth have websites?

By Milledgeville Matt

March 13, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Too bad Hampton’s wallet can’t pitch…

By klesko12

March 13, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Fallin’s. Had to be us cause there wasn’t anything else.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 13, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

The Game is on MLB.com today. it’s only way to watch the game and you have to buy the package.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 13, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

McFann: Do FSN South and SportsSouth have websites?

Don’t know, although I do know that there’s a website where you can try to find something like that. I think it’s called “google.com” or something like that. I heard someone talking about it the other day.

By Shaun

March 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

I know we’ve got pitching depth right now, but think that the Braves will give Horacio Ramirez a look?

God, I hope not. 288 strikeouts and 242 walks in 619.3 innings and a 4.61 career ERA.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 13, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Jeff Bennett gives the Braves three starts in September , two of them were solid starts. He goes down to winter ball in Venezuela and dominates , then shows up for spring training 40 pounds lighter. Gets the flu , sees three innings of work and is destined to get the pink slip for Richmond.

Nice job Bobby Cox , real nice job.

By TNRON

March 13, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon, McFann He got hit by Brian (during BP I think).Cox was watching pitchers in the bullpen area.He jokingly said he was glad it was McCann who hit him so that the ball was decelerating.

By McFann

March 13, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Daybed. Har har.

Thanks, TNRON. Had a feeling that’s who it was, because he was up to bat. Glad Bobby’s OK.

By Lew

March 13, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Coach-Are you sure this has already happened? Besides-who would you send down or release in his place? He has options, which is not the case with some of the others. Even at Richmond he is only a phone call away if he is needed.

By Shaun

March 13, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Coach, well, couldn’t Bennett use some more work in the minors if the flu limited his Spring Training innings?

Also, do you really think the Braves entire season will hinge on whether or not Jeff Bennett opens the season with the big club?

And what makes you think it was all Bobby Cox’s decision? Is this really Robert?

By The Man

March 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

I know we’ve got pitching depth right now, but think that the Braves will give Horacio Ramirez a look?

I hope that is all they give him.

With all of the current pitching the Braves have they would more than likely rotate a few starters around, if necessary, before signing or trading for another starter.

I would hope the next starter acquired by the Braves (probably next season) will be a all-star type caliber pitcher. With Smoltz’s and Glavine’s age the Braves will need one for next season.

By David O'Brien

March 13, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Coach, good point. I don’t care what anyone says, Cox shouldn’t have injected Bennett with that flu virus or told him to lose 60 pounds since july.

NEW BLOG IS UP

By TennesseePaul

March 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

God, I hope not. 288 strikeouts and 242 walks in 619.3 innings and a 4.61 career ERA

And that makes him look better than what currently is… his trend line:

2003 12-4 4.00 ERA 182.1 IP 100K 72BB
2005 11-9 4.63 ERA 202.1 IP 80K 67BB
2006 5-5 4.48 ERA 76.1 IP 37K 31BB
2007 8-7 7.16 ERA 98.0 IP 40K 42BB

Some one might pick him up. Just hope it isn’t the Braves. That K/BB ratio was going in the wrong direction along with everything else.

By chrisklob

March 13, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Coach, if the kid is sick and can’t pitch, how is that Bobby’s fault? Bennett obviously worked his tail off to lose that weight. Boog and Joe were talking about this situation during the game last night saying that because he had lost so much weight it weakened his body and THAT was the reason that his recovery from the flu was so long.

Bennett’s clearly not going to be ready by April so it would be foolish to think that he could contribute for the big club.

By Bay Area Steve

March 13, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Klesko12,

Thanks for the story. Good stuff. It was fine how it was, in full without a link. And stay safe in that wonderful country.

To the folks who can’t see that Hampton’s comment about his wallet was hilarious…well, go read the news or something.

That’s exactly the type of thing I want to see on this blog. Altough I’m somewhat surprised DOB posted it, because as expected, a couple of you start flaming him, yet again.

Perfect teammate/locker room comeback by the diminutive Hampton.

By TennesseePaul

March 13, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Jeff Bennett gives the Braves three starts in September , two of them were solid starts. He goes down to winter ball in Venezuela and dominates

Prior to that he had started all of 6 games in the previous 4 seasons after struggling as a middle reliever for multiple minor league clubs.

Way to go Braves Brass. Can’t believe you’d think that guy needs to prove himself a little more after a few starts against expanded rosters in September coupled with mowing down hitters for obscure third world teams.

By MGL

March 13, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

OK, looks like James gets to open against the full-blown Tiger lineup. He is backed up by Kotsay, Chipper and Tex plus the second string. Good test!!

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