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DEL.ICIO.USBraves relievers (and Pujols) are achin’
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. - Things could be a lot worse for relievers Rafael Soriano and Peter Moylan. They could have Albert Pujols’ elbow.
But seriously … Soriano and Moylan, the Braves’ best two relievers, are both nursing sore elbows, though all parties are calling it typical spring soreness or tenderness or whatever.
We should know in a few days, if either or both are still out. Moylan told me this morning that he’s had some slight soreness on the inside of his elbow for a couple of weeks, and they decided now to rest and rehab a few days to knock it out rather than keeping pitching with it.
When I asked him if it’s just typical soreness, nothing to be concerned about, as the Braves have indicated, Moylan said, “I think so.”
He also pointed out that the soreness hasn’t been in one spot, but moved a few inches up or down his elbow. That’s generally a good sign, indicating inflammation rather than torn tissue of any kind. So we’ll see.
Blogmeister note: I’m adding a new paragraph here, subbing for original one after getting back from clubhouse with update on Soriano.
He threw in the bullpen this morning — “Soriano threw really well; we’ll see how he feels tomorrow,” said Bobby Cox, who said he threw hard and without difficulty. If all goes well, Soriano will make his spring debut next Tuesday or Wednesday.
“If it’s the middle of next week, it’s fine,” Cox said of Soriano’s timetable. “He’s not going to lose his control. He’s fine.”
The Braves believed all along that he’s only had minor inflammation in the back of the elbow, near bottom of the triceps muscle.
If it lingers and he’s not pitched by this time next week, well, then you’ve got serious cause for concern, I’d say.
By the way, in case you missed the news, Cardinals slugger Pujols has an elbow that’s ready to implode at any time. He’s been diagnosed with a high-grade ligament tear, bone spurs, inflammation, arthritis, and malaria.
OK, kidding about the malaria. But he does have all of those other conditions in his right elbow, and is apparently going to keep playing until it blows, then have total reconstructive surgery. Yikes.
Yeah, Buddy: Talked to the Budster this morning, journeyman pitcher Buddy Carlyle. Gotta tell you, he’s one you can’t help but pull for, such a down-to-earth fella, bounced around for a dozen years before really getting his first opportunity to stick with a major league club.
He’s got the best attitude imaginable, isn’t getting carried away with his four perfect innings in his first two appearances, and says he’ll “go with the flow” no matter where he’s pitching, Atlanta or Richmond, rotation or bullpen.
He’ll get his first start of the spring on Saturday in a split-squad game against Cincinnati over at Sarasota.
At 30, he said he feels like a new pitcher after adding a cutter a couple years ago, smoothing out his delivery some last year in his return to starting, and then adding a splitter this winter and further simplifying his mechanics.
He’s pounding the strike zone and has four strikeouts with no walks or hits allowed. And Carlyle said he doesn’t feel like it’s flukey at all - he feels that good out there, that smooth in his delivery, that confident.
“I think I learned more last year than the previous seven years,” he said.
Last year’s eight wins and early success when the Braves needed him in an emergency reinforced in his mind that he could be a successful big league pitcher, after all these years.
His wife Jessicia is thrilled that the family (they have two kids, 1 and 4) gets to be back at the same spring training site two years in a row and then probably another city they’re familiar with, be it Richmond or Atlanta.
In my mind I had Jeff Bennett penciled in for that long relief/spot starter role coming into spring. But Bennett missed more than a week with the flu, and Carlyle has probably put his own hat squarely in that competition with his performance so far.
Carlyle has a ton of experience in both roles through the years, and has the perfect attitude for it. He can easily move from three weeks in the ‘pen to making a spot start, and takes pride in that fact. “The more things you can do, the better,” he said, smiling. “A utility pitcher, if you want to put it that way.”
Renteria back with Braves: Funny scene in the clubhouse this morning. I’m talking to Chipper (he’s playing today, by the way) and I see him glance across the room and smile. I turned and there’s Edgar Renteria, putting down his Detroit Tigers equipment bag in front of a locker and starting to take out the clothes that were hanging in it.
He’s doing this with a straight face, until the laughter of several former Braves teammates is too much, and he breaks into a laugh himself. Edgar exchanged hugs and handshakes with everyone, including his pupil Yunel Escobar, who worked out with the veteran all winter in Miami and will now try to fill his shoes.
Kotsay leading off: For a day, at least. Today’s lineup goes like this — 1. Mark Kotsay, CF; 2. Escobar, SS; 3. Hoss, 3B; 4. Teixiera, 1B; 5. Francoeur, RF; 6. Diaz, LF; 7. McCann, C; 8. Prado, 2B; 9. Lopez, DH.
Mike Hampton making his highly anticipated second start today vs. Tigers lefty Kenny Rogers.
Split-squad games tomorrow vs. Reds in Sarasota and vs. Houston here at Dark Star. I’ll be at the place that doesn’t involve 3-4 hours of driving, and where the manager will be.
Francoeur, Diaz and McCann are going to Sarasota, other regulars will stay here to face Houston.
Jo-Jo Reyes is to face Astros lefty Wandy Rodriguez, and Carlyle faces Reds lefty Jeremy Affeldt.
”ACHIN’ TO BE” by Paul Westerberg
Well she’s kind of like an artist
Sittin’ on the floor
Never finishes, she abandons
Never shows a soul
And she’s kind of like a movie
Everyone rushes to see
And no one understands it
Sittin’ in their seats
She opens her mouth to speak and
What comes out’s a mystery
Thought about, not understood
She’s achin’ to be
Well she dances alone in nightclubs
Every other day of the week
People look right through her
Baby doll, check your cheek
And she’s kind of like a poet
Who finds it hard to speak
Poems come so slowly
Like the colors down a sheet
She opens her mouth to speak and
What comes out’s a mystery
Thought about, not understood
She’s achin’ to be
I’ve been achin’ for a while now, friend
I’ve been achin’ hard for years
Well she’s kind of like an artist
Who uses paints no more
You never show me what you’re doing
Never show a soul
Well, I saw one of your pictures
There was nothin’ that I could see
If no one’s on your canvas
Well, I’m achin’ to be
She closes her mouth to speak and
Closes her eyes to see
Thought about an’ only loved
She’s achin’ to be
Just like me
Comments
By stephen jones
March 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
hey marty!
By Thrillhouse44
March 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Braveheart, you’re alive? I didn’t expect to see anything from you until well after lunchtime today. Great stuff late last night - especially 3:15 a.m. I hope you saved enough for this weekend’s St. Patty Day’s celebrations.
Too bad for Pujols that Larussa wasn’t able to get Bonds. His elbow would be in the Clear in no time.
By McFann
March 7, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Second or third?
By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)
March 7, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Hoss is back ! cool beans. Let’s see what Hampton can do in three innings today.
By Lew
March 7, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
You’ve got to like Buddy Carlyle’s attitude, if nothing else. At Spring Training he told me he was very interested and dedicated to turning in a better performance than last year-though I thought he was the first band aid that held for the bottom of the rotation last year. Hope he gets his chance to prove his worth again/
On the Del Gado contract situation. Apparently his 09 option is a vesting option, based on MVP voting and rankings. No need to worry about THAT happpening. However, the buyout is for $4million and that added to what Tex is likely to command on the open market, makes it highly unlikely ( at least to my way of thinking) that the Mets would be willing (or able given Johann’s contract) to pay $24-26 million for Tex-even for one year.
Two players pulling down a long term salary equaling close to $50 mil a year is a bit more than the Mets could handle. Even with a new stadium. This will be especially true given that they will also need to replace Alou, El Duque and likely Pedro as well. Not sure even the Yankees could afford that one.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Moises Alou is hitting the surgery room. I guess that will be a big problem for the mets. Knees are a problem and groin is a problem. That is not good, specially for a 40+ YO OF. He is supposed to be be back in late april or early may, but to tell you the truth, i think it will be more than that. He will have an hernia repaired and he will have to take it easy on a tissue that has herniated. You can add to that the fact that he will have no spring training under his belt, so he will be rusty. He is a great player, mets need him badly, and i think they will not have him for half or the season. I expect him to play 80 games, no more than that.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Poll (CBS sports site)
Will the Braves make the playoffs?
31% Yes: As a wild card
58% No: They’re not good
11% Yes: They’ll win the East
Total Votes: 991
By McFann
March 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Dang, Pujols! How many bone spurs does he have? Arthritis? High-grade ligament tear? What the heck did he do to his elbow?
By sane jane
March 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
I guess it’s too early for fans to moan about Glavine, huh?
Buddy, don’t pack your bags for Richmond quite yet. We may need you as a “spot starter” to “hold ‘em right there” after Glavine gives up 4 runs in a third of an inning…
By Tomahawkin' Again (Like it's 1995)
March 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Am I 14th or 15th?
By Braveheart
March 7, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Yeah, guys, I got about 4 hours sleep last night before my brother called, dealing with the breastfeeding baby from hell. He needed me to talk to him to maintain his sanity with the shrieks of little man. But the future John Smoltz is asleep for now and I am gonna take a nap myself. A little advice to the ladies: Don’t breastfeed if you are gonna go back to work. It ain’t fair to your man stuck at home with the little fella. He ain’t got the goods to compete.
By Stewart Nunn
March 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Josh Anderson should lead off!
By Steve-O
March 7, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
I REALLLLLY hope Sori and Petey are fine…They are going to be CRUCIAL….and IMAGINE if Hampton is REALLY FINALLY healthy!?!?!? What a boost that would be!! I can’t WAIT to here how far along Mikey Fonzo is coming along…any news DOB??? Will he be back before AS Break or after you think…Also at what level do you think Gonzo will be at when he does come back??
GO BRAVES!!!!!
By Anders
March 7, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Lew
From the last blog:
According to Anders (who would have little reason to disseminate false information in this case) DelGado has a player’s option for 09. Dream on about Tex. You’re stuck with what you have. Aren’t you happy about that?
I think you misunderstood me or maybe I wasn’t clear. Delgado has a three tiered option deal for next year as I understand it. Option 1 kicks in autamatically at $16 mil if he hits some crazy level of MVP votes etc. over the life of the existing deal. He would almost have to run the table this year to do so and while I’d be happy if he did it’s almost a virual lock he won’t. The second option is a team only option at $12 mil per year. The third option is a buy out at $4 mil. So in the end the Mets are looking at wether to pay him $8 mil next year (as the $4 mil is a given) to bring him back. Obviously they’ll have to see how he fares this year. If he has anything left at all this year and there’s no one of any value out there next off season to help them that’s a pretty cheap option relatively speaking. I don’t believe there’s any player option (other than the automatic one) in play for Delgado. I heard this explained on SNY once I haven’t actually seen it in writing. This is actually a pretty well structured deal by Minaya IMO.
That said, I can’t imagine the Mets will pay what the Yanks will for Tex and therefore him coming to the Mets is moot. The Yanks did the Mets a Mets a solid by not screwing up the Santana deal just because they can and I wouldn’t be suprised to see the Mets return the favor on Tex.
By stephen jones
March 7, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Lew
the problem is some of these teams are willing to spend whatever they want and dont care. especially in new york where 2 big teams compete against each other for headlines. yes there is a point where they spend too much, like the yanks and it still didnt get them to the ws. i thought a few days ago we would run away w/ the division, but who knows now w/ the injuries to soriano and moylan. i think we just keep treading water by 5 games after the break.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Totally agree with you in everything, including not even the yanks nor the bosox would be able to put 50 000 000 for 2 players and then replace pedro, el duque and alou. Im not sure about castillos situation, maybe he could be added in that equation. What about their catching position and ryan church? whats their contract situation?
By FJR
March 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
we have one last spot if people want in the braves blog fantasy baseball league. Its hosted on ESPN. E-mail if you want in. fjrabon@gmail.com
By AL
March 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
It will be interesting to see how Chipper does on the right side of the plate today with that hamstring.
By SNIPER-69
March 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Pelfrey will replace Pedro or El Duque and Prospect Fernando Martinez will replace Alou. They have the money to cover the $4 mil buy out on Delgado. I beleive Pelfrey will step up this year with a 10 plus win season and if you’ve seen Martinez there’s no doubt he’ll be in the majors by the end of the season.
By McFann
March 7, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
CBS? Ah! What do they know? Ha! 58%……sheesh!
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
If anderson is the leadoff……. would you like to sit diaz? If anderson is the answer to leadoff, then what do you do with diaz? too good to let him start just 50 games all season.
By TennesseePaul
March 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Lew: I don’t know if the prices you listed would be too much for the Mets to handle, but it certainly wouldn’t be too much for the Yankees. Giambi is off the books after this season. That alone frees up 20 million. And then there are the Giants who have tons of money and are in need of a good bat and first baseman. And then the possibility that the Angels or Dodgers get involved. This is less likely though as they both have good young first basemen. But they both had center fielders this off season and that didn’t stop ‘em. And then after those guys you have the Orioles. And with all this competition the Mets start drooling again and you’re right back to the beginning. It ain’t going to be easy. But hey, we have Tyler Flowers now…
By Chopdawg
March 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
DOB, has there been any discussion at all about keeping Brandon Jones as the 4th OF, and moving Francoeur from RF to CF—in case of a Kotsay injury?
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Just updated the original blog with news on Soriano, who threw in bullpen today without incident. He’s now tentatively scheduled to make his spring debut Tuesday or Wednesday, if no setbacks….
Stephen, if you’re going to change your season forecast with every sore elbow between now and opening day, you’re going to drive yourself nuts. Lot of pitchers have sore elbows and shoulders the first few weeks of camp.
By knowitall
March 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
FJR, I keep meaning to email you when I get home but I always forget. I want to be in your league, just don’t want to email you from work and I can’t access my personal email from work. I’m sure the Powers that Be know that I’m blogging from work but at least they don’t know what monkier I’m using. That would all change if I were to email you though.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Steve-O, outlook for Gonzo is same as it’s been for the past month: Early June is expected return date. Talked to him this morning. No setbacks. He’s throwing changeups now, breaking balls probably next week. He hopes to start facing hitters for first time in a couple of weeks….
Oh, and update on Chuck: Threw live BP two days ago and again today, no problems. He’s probably going to make his debut March 13, next Thursday.
By Paul
March 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
DOB
Do you think that [Joe Borchard[( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Borchard) has a shot of making this club? I’m from the South Side of Chicago, so I have seen him play, and even though his average his horrible, he still owns the record of the longest homerun at U.S. Cellular Field and it’s still a highlight I enjoy to watch. I know that he was the 12th pick in the 2000 draft and that at the time of his signing it was the biggest guaranteed contract ever to a minor leaguer, so he has talent. Just wondering if you think he has any chance, because he’s just a guy I like to pull for.
By kdbanks
March 7, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Anyone know if today’s game is on the radio?
By stephen jones
March 7, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
DOB
I meant to say we would be 5 games ahead w/ them hurt and 15 up w/ them good. 1 elbow i could deal with, 2 arm problems makes me think at least 1 of them will be hurt or ineffective.
anyways-time to head to Dark Star from the middle of Muts & Yankeeville. ETA Sunday 100pm!
By McFann
March 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Pete van Howeveryouspellhislastname said that the next broadcast on the radio will be Saturday, March 8, at 1:05 against Houston. Dang it! McCann’s playin’ in the other game! Aw, heck! I knew this would happen!
By AdirondackDave
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
DOB - We’ve got tickets for the 2 games in Jupiter next weekend. Do you know if that will be full squad or split yet? Thanks.
By Stewart Nunn
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Anderson leads off, plays center, Francoer in right, Diaz in left, Kotsay is the fourth or is let go. Let the best player start. They should never have gotten Kotsay right after getting Anderson.
By TennesseePaul
March 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
This is actually a pretty well structured deal by Minaya
This deal wasn’t structured by Minaya. Larry Beinfest signed him to the Marlins a few years ago to the deal described above. Delgado’s agent said of the contract and choice to sign with the Marlins instead of the Mets: “From Day One, we have told everyone that Carlos would make his choice based on where he felt he had the best chance to win a World Series,” Sloane said in an e-mail to the media Tuesday night. “I’m proud to say that is exactly why he made the choice he made.”
By David-ATL14
March 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
ForKDBANKS and others despite the erroneous listing of today’s game being broadcast locally, that is a mistake.
Today’s agme is available only thorugh MLB.com Gameday Audio.
14.95 for the entire season along with Spring Training and Post Season.
Well worth the price if anyone’s interested.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Adirondack, always a full squad for the overnight trip to Jupiter. Probably best road game you could choose, because most or all the regulars will play….
Anderson leads off, plays center, Francoer in right, Diaz in left, Kotsay is the fourth or is let go.
By wilymo
March 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Soriano didn’t make his first ST appearance last year until March 8th…I think if he gets the ball rolling by mid-week he’ll be fine.
By David-ATL14
March 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
DOB who else will pitch for the Hometeam 9 after Hampton?
Thanks in advance.
By Niels© Boor©
March 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
ippississiM—
re: Glavine/mentor
Check out this and this.
My approach was to look only at left-handed pitchers 10 years or younger than Glavine on the Mets roster sometime during his five years there.
First, see whose performance improved, and whose did not. (Throw out the latter — I’m not interested in trying to find a negative influence from Glavine.)
I got thru the 2003—2004 rosters. Have not looked yet at OPerez.
After identifying who improved, somehow determine what Glavine’s influence on that improvement might have been (ie, whether he was their “mentor”).
It’s probably a futile exercise — you can have it. If you want.
Cheers!
By Bravesfan79
March 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
I wish Bobby just wouldnt play Chipper at all again until the last week of spring training. Maybe as a pinch hitter or DH, but NOT in the field!
We need him 2 much for our lineup in REAL games.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
David-ATL14, following Hampton today are these scheduled relievers: Manny Acosta, Will Ohman, Tyler Yates, Matt DeSalvo, Jorge Campiloo….
Wilymo, good point about Soriano. Remember, he was late to camp last year because of visa issues….
Chopdawg, no discussion of moving Francoeur to CF. Every chance he’s had to address it, Wren’s made it clear Francoeur is ideally suited for RF and they see him as a RF, not a CF.
Could he move over to fill in from time to time? Certainly. But I’d say that’ll only be when regular backup CF has already been used in a game or is otherwise unavailable.
By Gene
March 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
I have a good feeling about these guys. They are having fun. I would pay to hear the banter between Tiger Woods and Smoltz in the simulated game. It looks like Smoltz served one up for him. It would be great if Hampton recovers and has a good year. The Braves are going to be tough this year, and best of luck to Renteria.
By DAP
March 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Stuart Nunn
please try to remember that anderson has 67 major league at-bats. he might be awesome…but its really not possible yet to know how hes gonna doing the majors over a long period of time.
also, when we got kotsay, we hadnt even seen anderson in spring training, so thats double the reason not to fault management for trading for kotsay.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Anybody who thinks Pelfrey can replace Pedro and that Fernando Martinez can replace Alou, knows nothing about baseball. Worst than than, he knows nothing about the team he cheers for.
Alou is a superstar, one of the most dangerous players in baseball (not talking about power).
Martinez…….should i say anything about him????
I just can understand your point.
Did you meant they can fill the spot? Jorge Sosa can fill it also.
By ncscoots
March 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Anderson leads off, plays center, Francoer in right, Diaz in left
Yes, THERE’s an OF to strike fear into the heart of Jake Peavy. Good tip, there, Stewart.
Holy Cornelia.
By Stewart Nunn
March 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Josh Anderson might be the next Ichiro! Go Braves!!
By Steve in DC
March 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Has anyone noticed the AJC is consistently getting the listings wrong for the radio/tv options on these spring games? I haven’t checked today’s, but it seems that they continually have radio options listed when it’s on mlb.com (which is a steal at 89.00 if you’re out of area like me.) I watch on my computer all the time…
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
METS SEARCHING FOR A POWER HITTER. Posted: Thursday March 06, 2008 07:46AM ET
Moises Alou’s extended absence will most likely force Mets general manager Omar Minaya to intensify his efforts to trade for a right-handed hitter with some power who can play first base and the outfield corners. Publicly, Minaya says he would be fine with Endy Chavez or maybe Angel Pagan filling in for Alou, and relying on Marlon Anderson or perhaps Damion Easley at first base if Carlos Delgado’s hip problems linger during the season. But the Mets did not trade for Johan Santana or sign off on a payroll in the $140 million range to let bench players fill two lineup slots where significant production is expected.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
By the way, we got the new Braves media guide today, and it’s the nicest in a long time.
Color photos throughout, and a great cover with the legendary retired-number guys across the top (Hank, Eddie, Murph, Spahn, Knucksy) and then bigger action photos on the bottom of three future Braves retired-jersey guys: Smoltz, Chipper, Glavine.
By wilymo
March 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Another point about Soriano—
He missed the start of ST last year due to Visa issues but also because of some tightness in the shoulder. It didn’t affect him at all last year — No DL trips, career high in IP and appearances.
I think when you’ve had a major arm surgery (TJ in the case of Soriano) you tend to err on the side of caution. I think most pitchers that have had serious arm injuries, especially young guys, will tell you they wish they had been more forthcoming and cautious when the injuries first cropped up. Too many times these guys are playing for jobs and are too gung ho about playing through pain that sometimes it can result in a more serious injury.
By Halberstram
March 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Great stories on Renteria DOB, he really seems like a fantastic guy. He was one of my favorites while here and will be easy to root for in Detroit and wherever else. He definitely seems like the type to latch on with an organization after his playings day are over and assist with player development a la Eddie Perez. Is that a correct assumption?
By McFann©
March 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Niels Boor, you copycat!
Pudge Rodriguez is batting leadoff??? Good night!
By Anders
March 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Tennessee Paul
This deal wasn’t structured by Minaya. Larry Beinfest signed him to the Marlins a few years ago to the deal described above.
Fair enough. I shouldn’t have given Minaya kudos for the deal. I forgot they traded for him.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
halberstam, I could definitely envision Edgar in such a role, unless he decides he doesn’t want to spend that much time away from his beloved Colombia. He’s an absolute superstar over there.
By ColoradoBravesFan
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
DOB,
Did you get to see Chuck James pitch BP? Any feedback on how he did? Or was he just getting his work in since he hasn’t pitch at all yet?
Halberstram is this name any connection to Habersham County in GA? I’m from there originally, and my parents are still there.
And yes Habersham County is where CORNELIA is located.
GO BRAVES…
By beachcomber
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Think I can lay my hands on an extra pair for next Friday’s game in Clearwater. Good seats - about five rows behind the third base dugout. They are $18 a piece. If anyone’s interested I’ll check with my seat mates on Sunday. Off to Orlando for tomorrow’s game and off to the internet right now for todays!
By TrboDawg
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
DOB,
I’m a long time reader and infrequent poster to the blog, but I’d like to ask a semi-serious question. I’m a compounding pharmacist and I make several anti-inflammatory creams/rubs (and NO I don’t make ‘Clear’ or ‘Juice’ or any illicit testosterone products, but I am working on a oral spray sildenafil (Viagra)) Anyway back to my point. With all the sore elbows, legs, knees, joints, etc. in camp. Do the Braves work with a Compounding Pharmacist to help alleviate these symptoms? Would they be willing to try? I’d suggest finding someone local. I’m in California, but I’m sure someone in the Atlanta area would be willing to help. We/They can also make Josh Beckett’s Blister ointment, if necessary. see this link
Anyway, you’re doing a great job keeping us all informed and I’m looking forward to seeing y’all when you come to beat the Giants…
By Thrillhouse44
March 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Overlord, maybe we should let the Mets know about Craig Wilson. He can play 1B and corner outfield.
By Braves2622
March 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Not to burst the Tyler Flowers is awesome bubble, but wasn’t he suspended fifty games for steroids? Yes, he was. On August 1, 2006. Maybe that is the reason he is hitting Sammy Sosa style 500 foot bombs off of chino in batting practice.
By FJR
March 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I just really dont see any way the yankees don’t get Tex. The only way I could see him not going there is if they overspend for C.C. first and don’t want to take on 50 mil per year in one FA cycle.
If that happens and the yankees are out, we have a fighting shot at tex. I would doubt the sawks willingness to pay 25 mill for tex when they love lowell and youkilis (the prototypical moneyball guy). Angels just spent a lot of money and have agood young first baseman, same for the dodgers.
By Pete H.
March 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
In case anyone cares, the Mongrels (or anyway, a version of said New York team) are on ESPN, against the Indians.
By Bshaf
March 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Headed to tomorrow’s game in SRQ. Definitely looking forward to seeing the club (well, part of it) in person for the first time. Buddy’s start is big for him and I’d like to see him continue his spring success. Seems like he really deserves a spot on the team…
DOB, who should I expect to see fill out the infield over here: B.Lil, Prado, Hernandez, Flowers? Fill me in please. Thanks.
By PatioDaddio
March 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Or because Tyler Flowers hits those bombs because he is 6’4” 250 lb naturally strong man who has a fantastic compact swing. Steroids don’t help the ball hit the bat. That comes from talent, not steroids. He admitted he took them, but no longer takes them and it was foolish on his part he admits.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Mike Hampton got into a mess in the 1st. Bases Loaded with nobody out. He induced a ground bal DP by Ordoñez i think.
At least he showed no panic and minimized damage. Lets see if he can get out of it.
He strikes out INGE as i type. BTW, Chipper made an err on a ground ball hit toward him with runners at 1b and 2b.
By Random
March 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
A Morsel for Robert
Bobby Cox: “Glav was great,” the ever-supportive skipper said. “I liked Glav today. Really good. Only one ball hit hard. The ball’s coming out [of his hand] so nice, free and easy. He had some really tight pitches there in the third inning.”
Tommy Glavine: “I think, more than anything, I was just trying to be too fine,” said Glavine, who has allowed three earned runs in his first five innings. “After I threw the bad pitch to Inge, I was really focused on trying to keep the ball down and probably just holding on to it a little bit too long.”
By Turfman
March 7, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
DOB
are you going to keep us updated on hampton’s performance?
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Hampton struck out Inge swinging on a 3-2 pitch to end first inning with two on base, one run in.
Not a pretty inning — including an E5 on Chipper and a walk, hit and 25 pitches by Hampton (13 strikes).
Jurrjens only threw 39 pitches (28 strikes) in his entire three-inning outing the other day.
By DAP
March 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Thrillhouse44 maybe we should let the Mets know about Craig Wilson. He can play 1B and corner outfield.
actually, im pretty sure ive seen his name mentioned on some mets blogs. i couldnt believe it. but i hope they get him.
Braves2262 again? i responded to you on the last blog with this:
Braves2262 i dont see how flowers failing a steriods test in august of ‘06 has alot to do with him hitting bombs off of chino in march of ‘08. it doesnt last that long.
unless youre saying he is probably still on them and just hasnt been caught lately. i doubt thats true. flowers has addressed the whole issue already this spring and seems like he is past it.
By Pete H.
March 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Wow, my Tyler Flowers bubble got burst. I’d hardly noticed the, oh, 200 mentions of his suspension in the past few days.
The Mets lineup today is kinda hilarious. Most of them aren’t even in the media guide. Cliff Lee is giving a clinic in how not to pitch. Get two strikes, lob one down the middle. Get two strikes, lob one down the middle. Repeat as necessary.
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Escobar is 4th in spring with .500 BA and 6 RBIs (majors)
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Braves2622, thanks for the scoop. Guess you didn’t read my story on Tyler Flowers in today’s paper (also posted online). The steroid suspension is in there.
But thanks for apologizing for “bursting the bubble.”
By Jon
March 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
HEY Braves2622 Way to keep saying the same thing over again. Get a new rant, would ya?
By Niels© Boor©
March 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Consider it an homage, squirt.
I thought it looked pretty neat. How did you do it?
Me, I just cut and pasted from DOB’s horrendous attempt at speaking French (“[Renteria’s] protégé Yunel Escobar”).
8-)
By DAP
March 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
ColoradoBravesFan i got a speeding ticket in habersham county driving back to college after opening day in 2004. we lost to the mets, and i went with one braves buddy and three obnoxious (of course) mets fans from new york. not a good night.
i went to toccoa falls college from 2003-2007. you know it?
By Bravesfan
March 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
DOB - Any idea when Cox is going to make the first roster cuts of the spring?
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Kotsay led off with a walk in the bottom of the first, and Chipper hit a one-out single to center.
Tex up with two on. Came to plate with Stones’ “Paint It Black” playing. But they don’t pick their own music down here.
By Thrillhouse44
March 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
DAP, it would be a little bit of justice after we got Woodward from them. Let’s hope they go for it.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Tex hit a sharp grounder down 3B line, Inge made nice play and threw to second for one out, but Scott Sizemore threw past 1B to the camera well, letting in a run (Kotsay) and sending runner to second.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Rogers got ahead in count on Francoeur and got him flailing at a breaking ball for strike 3 to end inning with a runner at second.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
niels, i don’t understand why our paper’s computer system has trouble with any word with one of those accent marks. thanks for bringing it to my attention
By SNIPER-69
March 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
Overlord, Of course Pelfrey won’t “replace” Pedro. He a hall of famer. What I meant to say is all players will be replaced at some point. If in fact Pedro and Alou are gone after the season, Pelfrey and Martinez are capable players to fill in the void. If that’s the case their low salaries will allow the Mets to sign a Texiera.
By McFann©
March 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Niels—
Option G.
Flowers was suspended? For what?
By Bravesfan79
March 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Hey Colorado Braves fan: im from metro Atlanta but went to College at Piedmont College in Habersham. I dont remember much about Cornelia but Demorest is a little crap town with 1 light and 2 cops. They make most of their money off of arresting college kids for underage alcohol consumption. I know, i was one of those kids…haha…
And can we please keep Flowers instead of Thorman!?
By SAMMY THE HEAD MILLER
March 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Hoss is a Baseball Beast! Go Braves!
By DAP
March 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
after a walk from oliver perez, hafner hits a lazer double over fernando martinez’s head in right to score the runner from 1st.
i would like to see perez fail.
By sri
March 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
There it is folks!!! Hampton left the game…
By Mark
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
That didn’t take long, Hampton just came out of the game with an injury.
By TennesseePaul
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Jurrjens only threw 39 pitches (28 strikes) in his entire three-inning outing the other day.
Didn’t see this kind of talk about Glavine’s outing yesterday. And to be fair to Hampton, Jurrjens isn’t trying to come back from 2.5 years of breaking body parts. Still not a pretty inning though.
Perhaps Tyler Flowers can step in. I hear he’s the next big thing.
By Justin
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Hampton out of the game because of some kind of physical problem
By Turfman
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
lets hope hampton can have a better 2nd inning
By McD
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Hampton just left the game early, here we go again
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST IN: Hampton has left the game. Hurt. No, I’m not kidding.
With a 1-1 count to Scott Sizemore, with one out in the second inning.
Cox and trainer went to mound; no one up here saw anything to indicate what injury was. We’ll know shortly, but there wasn’t anything obvious.
Pitch was fouled off, and next thing you know, Cox and trainer Jeff Porter were headed to mound.
By NorthBeach Scott
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Hampton just went down. Oh pt no pot …
By Overlord
March 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Oh Oh, mike hampton was throwing ok after 1 1/3 IP and he couldnt continue. He was walking ok, so it was not the legs. No report just yet. They say it could be a blister on a finger.
By King521
March 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
So if you take steroids, you hit automatically hit monster home runs for years and years to come…
I am going out to purchase a bottle today! Should I go with the cream or the clear??? Which one will “create” more home runs?
Get over it people!
By King521
March 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
So if you take steroids, you automatically hit monster home runs for years and years to come…
I am going out to purchase a bottle today! Should I go with the cream or the clear??? Which one will “create” more home runs?
Get over it people!
By Bobby's Cox
March 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Pujols reminds me of that steroids commercial on tv where that statue is falling apart.
Another LaRussa boy on roids doesn’t doubt my mind…even a couple years back all the Cards had rock hard bodies.
By Turfman
March 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
as i am watching the Mutts/indians game i see that Oliver Perez still jumps over the foul line as he goes to the dugout. LAME
By Mark
March 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Time to call the insurance company I guess, see what we can save from that 15 mill he’s owed. All BS aside, I hope it’s minor poor guy could really use a break from this heartache, just a sad sad story for Mike.
By shocker
March 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
I won our office pool! I had the Mar 1 - Mar 15 block. That was too easy.
By ColoradoBravesFan
March 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
DAP
Yes, I know it, though not very well. I as others here graduated from UGA. Keep up the great post. I really enjoy reading all the great Braves info and ideas on how the Bravos will do this year.
GO BRAVOS…
By Eric from MO
March 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
I dont know why everyone is getting mad at Braves2622 so much. Everybody, including DOB, has made a big deal about the homeruns he has hit in BP. Everybody talks poorly of Bonds because we THINK he has taken steriods, even though he has never failed a test, which Flowers has.
Lets not be hypocrites, if we are going to dislike Bonds because of supposed steriods use, then we should not celebrate Flowers when he has actually done steriods.
By TennesseePaul
March 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Hampton Hurt…. OK, so who had the second spring start? Who’s the big winner?
McFann: Flowers was suspended for being a juicer. Similar to James “Mr. Spring” Jurries. He could mash the ball in spring.
By Bobby's Cox
March 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Overlord
According to David Pinto of The Sporting News, the Braves have a 60% chance of getting to the playoffs, and most likely will lose in the first round or won’t win the world series.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=bravesoldstaffprimedtosu&prov=tsn&type=lgns
It’s a pretty good article with really good stats…It’s about the age of the braves pitching staff and how they fair compared to other old staffs in history.
By Niels Boor
March 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Pete H.—
Lee’s no worse than Glavine, then, eh?.
(“The hard part down here [at spring training] early on is not getting ahead in counts, it’s making pitches to put guys away when you do [get ahead].”)
By Kanye West
March 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Shoulda got that insured, GEICO for your pitcher
By DAP
March 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
hampton injured. youve GOT to be kidding me!
dont know why im surprised though.
i was starting to get excited about having him back, but i knew better than that.
DANG IT!
By Ben Moore
March 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Any reason why Mike Hampton got pulled after 1.1 innings today? Just got a little nervous…
By Mike Hampton
March 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
DOB - what’s wrong with me?
By Mark
March 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Eric from MO are you serious? We “THINK” Barry did steriods and we THINK he broke Hank’s record on them? Dude, the US Attorney has POSITIVE blood test results from BALCO that PROVE he did! Flowers admitted it, didn’t break any records doing it, didn’t commit perjury, and isn’t a jerk about it! I think there is a pretty big difference between those two cases.
By Kevin
March 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
DOB: Good Westerberg tune. Lord I miss the Replacements.
By DAP
March 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Eric from MO
i think you misunderstand why people dislike bonds.
and you cant really compare flowers to bonds. its a very different situation.
By Turfman
March 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
lets hope hampton broke a nail
we need him in that rotation
By Niels Boor
March 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Stewart Nunn—
Just go ahead on and change your handle to Josh Fanderson. We’ll understand.
Right, McFann? Right, Fancoeur?
By TennesseePaul
March 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Bonds because we THINK he has taken steriods, even though he has never failed a test
According to the Government Bonds has failed at least 2 tests. Of course, the lawyers say that the “Barry B.” label on one of the tests was actually Raphael Belliard.
By JP
March 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
OMG!! HAMP is HURT, call 911, National Security, the Army,the marines…folks, i could be as simple as a blister or as worses as… wait, we’ve seen everething that could possibly be wrong with hampton, so??? what is it DOB???
By OrlandoFan
March 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
I had a premonition about Hampton. I had this feeling I was going to check in on teh blog and read that something had happened to him. Don’t know why. Just one of those ominous thoughts. And there it is in DOB’s blue-bylined entries. I am speechless, not because of my hunch because of the fact that he’s hurt. I’m guessing it’s more than a blister.
By Mark
March 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
DOB I’m dying here, find out what happened brother
By Bull Dawg 4567
March 7, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
this just in on Hampton injury. Apparently the problem is that his left testicle was hanging lower than his right one which causes him to miss outside to right handed batters. I am told he will have to have Tommy Ball surgery and will be out 12 to 18 months.
By Evan
March 7, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Actually Eric from MO, It came out recently on espn that through the depositions for Bonds’ trial that he has failed two steriod tests. There is no think about it anymore he cheated. At least Flowers has the stones to admit he did it and it was wrong about doing it.
By David O'Brien
March 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
MILD STRAIN OF RIGHT GROIN for Hampton. That’s the word from the clubhouse. No timetable for return, will be evaluated day-to-day, etc.
By Braveheart