Braves

By Herschel Talker

March 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Numero Uno?

By i can't take it anymore

March 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

i hope bridge gets tons of work at third. soriano and C will be fine.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

First?

By bravesfan

March 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

The lineup: 1. Lillibridge 3B: 2. Kotsay, CF; 3. Francoeur, RF; 4. Tex, 1B; 5. McCann, C; 6. B. Jones, LF; 7. Prado, 2B; 8. Guzman, SS; 9. Hudson, RF.

WOW!! Hudson is playing rightfield?

By The Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy

March 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Is this in the Lance Cormier area of the elbow?

By midtownBrave

March 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

anymore spring games on cable??

By Thrillhouse44

March 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait to see Lillibridge play. Sounds like he’s a team player just waiting for his shot.

By Nick

March 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

bravesfan: Frenchy AND Huddy are in RF…my guess is that Frenchy will have more command from out there.

By Bryan

March 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Some good music has been coming out since you were last around the blog …

Some quality indie rock efforts from Grand Archives and Beach House (Grand Archives is fronted by a former Band of Horses member - and BOTH of these bands have a sound similar to Band of Horses)

Beach House has a Cat Power flair.

For hip hop heads - Eryka Badu’s new release is killer and a fella named cadence weapon has released a indie-minded album. The guy is from canada and used to write for Pitchfork magazine … but he brings it and is a smart-indie-afro MC extraordinaire (in the vein of Del and Aseop).

After last years acquisition of Gonzo and Soriano … you would think the brave’s closer worries would be over … where is Ken Ray when you need him …

By MARK

March 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

ANy chance this game is televised?? Why don’t they televise more of the spring games?? Is there a strong demand to see Cold Pizza and Sportscenter repeated over and over again????

By BravesFanTrappedinOR

March 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB, great choice with the Ryan Adams this morning. He is one of my favorites. Keep up the good work. I read your blog everyday from out here in Oregon. Go Braves!

By Anders

March 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

DOB

But obviously there’s more attention paid, or will be paid, to Soriano given that he’s moving into the full-time closer role and the Braves gave him a two-year contract and, oh yeah, Soriano had Tommy John several years ago.

Remember back when Soriano signed this undervalued deal and I questioned why he would do so when he’s finally reached the cusp of free agency and heading into the most valued role he’s ever had? Seemed suspicous to me at the time low money, short years comparatively etc… Perhaps maybe, just maybe I was on to something? Nah, I mean I had that whole Santana thing all wrong too - right?

By Thrillhouse44

March 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

When’s Smoltz going to pitch BP to Tiger?

By Tomahawkin' Again (Like it's 1995)

March 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

DOB, stay dry in the press box today. Nasty line of T-storms is rolling in from the Gulf and should be at Dark Star sometime in the middle innigs.

By Steve McP

March 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

In all the debate of the bench line up for the Braves, nobody seems to have mentioned the Terence Moore/Al Sharpton effect, which will give Brandon Jones a lot of weight to replace the one African American on last year’s team (Willie Harris).

Obviously not a serious comment in baseball terms, but it will surely not be long before we got the same comments as last year aimed at the Braves for their supposed bias against African Americans. (as we know having half the squad non-white counts for nothing!)

By Renegator

March 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

This Soriano elbow thing worries me. Who is our closer if/when Soriano goes on the DL? Moylan? Yates?

By Cup-Holder Night

March 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB:

Nice to see Built to Spill getting some love on the Braves/MIB Blog… There’s Nothing Wrong With Love is in my Top 5 albums. BTW, while you are down in w*******-lando, stop by Bubba-Lou’s Bodacious BBQ. Outstanding sauces, if you like things on the spicy side.

On the baseball side, does Acosta have the stuff to compete for the closer job IF Soriano can’t go? He sure looked good in limited action last year…

By Malkatraz

March 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

DC folks, did anyone score DC opening night tickets today? They went on sale at 9, but the server was jammed when they went on sale and I gave up after about 20 minutes. Oh well, it saved me some money. :)

DOB,

BTS is a really great band. I got to see them twice last year and they always blow me away. So shy and down to earth on stage. Martsh is very underrated as a guitarist and songwriter. My favorite album is There’s Nothing Wrong with Love.

And speaking of good songwriters (and to pay homage to my handle) The new Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks album came out today. It’s pretty heavy/jammy and the lyrics are…well you know. You can hear it streaming here: http://www.myspace.com/stephenmalkmus

By McFann

March 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

midtownBrave—

For a Braves ST schedule showing which games will be on TV, click here.

By Matt the Brave

March 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Huddy took out to the outfield for a game. :D Might give a new wrinkle to the gameplan from time to time!

By uga-brave

March 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

guess we know why soriano wanted a two year deal. to early to tell if this is something serious, but soreness behind the tricep usually aint good.

i wonder if jeff ever figured 10 years ago, when he was in geometry class, that he would be playing golf with two hall of fame pitchers and tiger woods? that would be one unbelievable day.

By Sean C

March 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

say worse case scenario happens, and soriano goes down for a while, who are we looking at for the closers role?

By i can't take it anymore

March 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

anders you nailed it!!! soriano is about one pitch away from career ending surgery. you must have a crystal ball. i mean, you pegged the santana deal, tom glavines collapse (he didnt look that good in his 08 debut with us, ya know)tell me what else is going to happen before i buy tickets. i dont want to waste my money spring has started, loser. its time to go to the mets blog.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

I would think that Moylan would get the first shot of closing if Soriano’s elbow (or any other injury that might crop up, for that matter) is a problem. Acosta after him?

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Overlord, I wanted to answer your question from the other blog. I think it is looking like the extra outfielders will be Anderson and Borchard. Because of Kotsay’s presence I don’t think Schafer will be on the roster. He needs to be playing everyday and Kotsay is an everyday player as well. So, Schafer would be better off playing in Mississippi everyday. I too am a bit worried about B. Jones. He may need another two or three months of seasoning at AAA. So, that is why I think at this point Borchard and Anderson are leading the charge with Blanco also in the race for the other two outfield spots. I think unless Lillibridge just falls flat on his face this spring he and Infante will fill the two utility spots. With Infante’s ability to play 1B I think Thorman’s days are numbered. He may break camp with the team but will be gone as soon as Infante comes off the DL.

Of course, the backup catching job is Javy’s to lose and I think he would have to do quite a bit to lose it right now. I expect B. Pena and Thorman to be moved before spring is over with either Boyer or Bennett being more or less the centerpiece of the deal.

If Tyler Flowers keeps up his torrid pace throughout the entire the spring, it will be interesting to see what the Braves do with him. Especially if Javy, B. Pena, and Sammons have horrible springs.

By Workinlkeadawg

March 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

I know I’m gonna catch hell for asking, cuz I live in Melbourne, are there any Braves grapefruit games on TV down here? The Braves play the Nats on Mar 22 but it’s been soldout forever. I usually go every yr and have had good seats in the past but this yr that game was sold out before Hitler was a corporal. Maybe I’ll drive out to Viera and try to get on what’s left of the berm, where David Justice went off on me for asking Chipper to sign an autograph for a kid. What a pompass a* Justice was. Hoss kinda looked embarassed, then McGriff stepped in and signed the kid’s autograph, class act.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

not good about soriano, but hopefully he is ok. who on our roster closes if soriano cant?

By McFann

March 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

This Soriano elbow thing worries me. Who is our closer if/when Soriano goes on the DL? Moylan? Yates?

Dude, please not Yates.

Timmy in right field! That would be funny! Remember that game where Francoeur got ejected so they stuck Pete Orr out there? Ha! I bet Timmy could handle it, though. He’s pretty athletic, and I think he played some OF in college.

By knowitall

March 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Bryan, glad to get a good review on Eryka Badu’s new cd. For some reason I thought it came out last week and I went to like 2 stores trying to find it before I realized that I was chasing my tail.

By GoBravos

March 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t mind seeing Huddy out in right. He’s got the arm! In all seriousness, Soriano’s scaring me. Gonzo isn’t back for a while. Who would close if he can’t go for any amount of time? DOB, If Lillibridge made the team, would BC give B Jones the nod since you got someone who can play center? I’d rather have Anderson for his speed and let Diaz play full time. Let Jones devleop a little more.

By Efrim

March 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

A little more Braves bashing. This time from the premier stathead Rob Neyer. I like Neyer, but “not even close”?

JT (Jersey): Rob, don’t wuss out. Mets, Phillies, or Braves in the East?

Rob Neyer: (12:22 PM ET ) The Mets, and it’s really not close. If I have to pick one team to win 100 games this season, it’s them.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

robert(chipper is the best) 2 outfield spots? is diaz not gonna make the team?

i promise you, there will only be 4 outfielders on this team. that is if you could infante/lillibridge as infielders.

its frnechy, kotsay and diaz…then 1 open spot for anderson, b. jones, borchard, blanco, ect. only anderson or b. jones really have a chance.

b.jones will get it if lillibridge/or infante are ready…if the utility infielder cant handle CF, it will be anderson until infante is ready.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

I went back and just now added “could be” to the line about it being the typical soreness pitchers get at beginning of spring. Because we have no way of knowing, really, if it’s just typical soreness or if there might be something more there.

No reason to believe it’s anything more, at this point, but needed to be clear that I don’t know….

Lillibridge butchered a couple of balls while taking infield at 3B before the game. Or, about as many as today’s Phillies 3B, Wes Helms ,typically butchers in a game. (rim shot)

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

You can feel the rain in the air, the approaching storms. Always like that in Florida, that sudden coolness in the air just before a storm….

Bryan, I read a good review of that Beach House album. Sounds intriguing….

The new REM single is outstanding. I think the boys just might be back, even with no Bill Berry….

Oh, and ready that Danger Mouse has been helming the new Black Keys album, which has a bunch of songs they wrote for Ike Turner before he died. Now that sounds like an interesting album.

OK, first pitch. Gotta focus on Huddy in RF (smirk)

By Eric from MO

March 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Anders do we really need to discuss the Mets injured list. Only difference is Soriano aint out, and he may be underpaid, while all of the Mets are way overpaid.

By Moby Grape

March 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

So, that is why I think at this point Borchard and Anderson are leading the charge with Blanco also in the race for the other two outfield spotsRobert CITB)

The only chance Borchard has of making this club is a complete epidemic of major injuries. The guy has power, can not hit worth a lick. Everybody hated Thors .222 BA, at least there is a chance thatit was an off year. Borchard has a career BA of under .200 in the bigs. We cannot possibly be that desperate.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Huddy’s given up a Victorino one-out single and Utley walk, now brings up Big Ryan with two on…

Sharp single up middle scores Victorino. 1-0 Phils, and a lot of Philly fans in the house, I might add.

By TN-MAN

March 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

DOB, cant get the game on 94.9 like the website says. Is any radio covering the game?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Struck out Jenkins on a changeup, swinging. Very good pitch.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

DAP, I think the Braves can afford to have two pure outfielders on the bench because Lillibridge and Infante will be the backup infielders and both can play the outfield with Javy the backup catcher. If the Braves have only one outfielder and assuming Infante, Lillibridge, and Javy make the team who is going to be the fifth bench player?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Lillibridge sharp single through left side of infield to start the bottom of the first.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Strikeout Kotsay, but overthrow E2 on pickoff attempt at first base advances The Lil’ Bridge to second. Francoeur up in the Hoss position.

By OrlandoFan

March 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Yates as a closer would harken to the mid 1980s for comparisons to ineffective and scary. Man, that would be awful. But DOB’s rigth, this stuff happens in the spring. We shall know soon enough. And there are enough arms in camp, someone surely could step forward to close. How about Boyer?

Glad to see Lillibridge is playing 3B. I’d asked about that a week or two ago but no one responded. Saw the kid on Sunday and liked how hard he played. He IS baby-faced, and he’s also very fast. Would be interesting to see if he can win one of those 5 backup spots. If he can’t, I’d think about Brayan Pena — I know, no way — because if you keep Javy (a given), the defensive presence from Pena could be helpful. And he can play several spots. But that’s just my 2-cents-is-all-it’s-worth managerial perspective. I’d like to see a bench of Thorman, Javy, Pena, Lillibridge/Prado and BJones/Anderson. But only if Anderson stops wearing those god-awful high pants.

Infante obviously bumps someone later.

By eware

March 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

DOB, Good call on the WHISKEYTOWN song on the day they re-release Strangers Almanac.

Whiskeytown/RA posts are the best - you’re the man.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Eric

It wasn’t meant as a rip. I stated (back when it happened)that Soriano signing the deal he did on the cusp of free agency was suspicous. DOB ripped me another one saying I have no idea what I’m talking about, I’m bitter blah, blah blah. Nothing is confirmed about the injury but let’s be honest - you have to be a little worried and he didn’t throw at all yet. Isn’t it possible he and his agent knew or were more than a little concerned about something? If Santana showed up lame this spring what do you think DOB and others on here would be saying about him signing the deal?

I fully expect the usual dressing down or sarcastic remark from DOB concerning this. SOP on here. I can take it.

By Nick

March 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

If Soriano can’t go at the beginning of the season, we should use Smoltz as the closer until Gonzo comes back. We can go with a rotation of Hudson, Glavine, Hampton, Jurrjens, James/Reyes for the time being, and it’ll save wear and tear on Smoltz’s arm.

(I’m mostly kidding)

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Francoeur pulled a liner down left-field line, just foul by 3 feet. Then killed some worms to advance Lillibridge to third.

Teixeira delivers two-out single through right side for tying run, 1-1.

By McFann

March 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

TN-MAN—

AM 640 is giving score updates—I just checked. Don’t know how often they’re doin’ it, though.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

i dont even know who rob neyer is, but he said this: If I have to pick one team to win 100 games this season

what a retard!!! not the tigers. not the red sox, or the yankees…not the dbacks, or the indians…. the METS! NOWAY!!!! noway they win 100, even if they win the division!! i cant believe someone said that. he is so stupid.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Robert(chipper is the best) If the Braves have only one outfielder and assuming Infante, Lillibridge, and Javy make the team who is going to be the fifth bench player?

Scott Thorman.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Hudson gave up a Helms single to start the second inning, then induced a nice 6-4-3 DP by Guzman and Prado.

But the pitcher Kendrick followed with a single to right, now Rollins is up.

Sharp groundout that Prado backhanded beautifully and threw to second to end inning.

By McFann

March 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

“Killed some worms”? Ha ha! That’s funny! By that do you mean he grounded out?

Someone said the Mets would win 100 games? Dude…That’s bizarre!

By Pete H.

March 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Whew, glad Tex got that hit. There was a creature here the other day claiming he was going to hit .000 this year.

By ncscoots

March 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

DAP, if Neyer is such a retard, why would you care WHAT he predicts, LOL? Relax, dude…at least until the Braves start playing real games.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

B Jones beat out an infield hit, then Prado about took Kendrick’s head off with a screamer up middle that the pitcher got a glove on. It caromed for a hit.

Runners on corners and none out for the youngster Guzman, Javier.

By FJR

March 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

somebody asked previously on the old blog what service we’re using for the braves blog fantasy baseball league. Its ESPN. we’ve filled 10 spots, so its enough for a legit league now, but I’d like to have up to 4 more. Anybody still interested, email me at fjrabon@gmail.com, we’d love to have you. Also, if anybody has previously emailed and not gotten an invitation, email me as well.

fjrabon@gmail.com

By AdirondackDave

March 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

DOB — What was that “trade 2 starters” reference all about in yesterday’s (or this mornings) late blog??

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Guzman little popout to short, accomplishing nothing productive.

By john

March 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

how many innings for huddy today?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Hudson fouled back a bunt with two strikes, accomplishing same as Guzman.

Runners still on corners, now two outs for ‘Bridge.

By TennesseePaul

March 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Com’on guys. Soriano’s arm is nothing. It’s because he spent the entire plan trip back to the states playing punch buggy with the guy in the window seat. It was assumed that the little islands had VW bugs all over them. Soriano couldn’t verify, the guy wouldn’t let him look out the window. But Raphael is a good sport, he took his licks and didn’t call the man a cheater. It’ll take a few days for the soreness to fade, then he’ll be able to pitch. He may look intimidating on the mound, but Soriano is a real sucker for “I Spy”, “Punch Buggy” and Madlibs.

By David-ATL14

March 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

TN man the Game is available if interested through MLB.com.

Gameday audio package is available for the meager price of 14.95 for the entire season.

You have access during the regular season to both team’s feeds of every single game. Also the games are archived if you want to listen at a later time.

Listening to Pete as I type. Braves just took a 2-1 lead on lillibridge’s second single of the game.

Gameday Audio well worth the price.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Nice two-out, two-strike RBI single up middle for Lillibridge to put Braves up 2-1, then Kotsay adds a single through ride side (misplayed by 2B, but credited with single) and E9 brings in a run.

Now Francoeur has doubled to left center to drive in two more runs, and it’s 5-1 Braves.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Does anybody knows why the heck is John Maine pitching today again?

By MacdWolfpack

March 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Dave thanks for the scoring updates, that damned MLB.com live scoring aint’ as live as it pretends.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

The Lance Cormier area of the elbow. Anything like the Islets of Langerhans in the pancreas? Since when did they start naming body parts for ex Braves’ players?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Teixiera pulls another RBI single to right, and Braves are rolling. Up 6-1.

By FJR

March 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Chris Harris examines the mets starting staff (excluding Santana, as he’s considered a given):

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=MLB30qnym

I’ll just give his predictions here:

Martniez: 148 IP, 10 W, 161 K, 3.10 ERA, 1.28 WHIP

Maine: 183 IP, 13 W, 156 K, 4.18 ERA, 1.28 WHIP.

Perez: 178 IP, 12 W, 170 K, 4.40 ERA, 1.43 WHIP.

El Duque: 148 IP, 9 W, 130 K, 4.14 ERA, 1.26 WHIP.

Pelfrey: 120 IP, 6 W, 74 K, 5.55 ERA, 1.71 WHIP.

If that happens, the Mets ARE NOT the team to beat.

By PutMeInCoach

March 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if it gets said enough, but thanks DOB! I love getting the play by play on a spring training game. Makes my cubicle job bareable.

Thanks again.

By ssiscribe

March 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Sounds like the Lil’ Bridge (like that, by the way) and Big Tex have found their stroke.

Zero hits combined for the two coming into today. Four hits combined so far today for Lillibridge and Tex (both are 2-for-2), and the Braves are rolling, 6-1.

Supposed to be another big line of storms rolling through the A here shortly. Hopefully, Gameday Audio keeps on humming along.

—30—

By glorydays

March 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Didn’t know Bill Berry left REM. Why?

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

6-1 braves

Got to wonder how deep phillies rotation is when we score that easy on their 3rd starter. I know its only spring, but im sure if he could he would have finished the bleeding earlier.

By ssiscribe

March 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Nine men bat in the bottom of the second for the Braves; five touch home.

5 runs, 6 hits in the inning.

6-1 Braves after two innings from the happiest place on the planet.

—30—

By al-FAN-so Soriano

March 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

DOB

Any chance the Braves try to sign Bonds?

By propp

March 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

I think the body part naming started with the excess fat storage of the buttocks…a certain X-centerfielder. all in fun

By propp

March 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Kinda looking like last year in one good way….5 runs…5 two out RBI’s

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Does anybody knows why the heck is John Maine pitching today again?

Lack of depth in pitching rotation?

By Lew

March 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

al-Fan-so-Why, exactly would we want to sign Bonds and all of his attendant issues?

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Does anybody know if Lew took his medication?

By AdirondackDave

March 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

DOB — What was that “trade 2 starters” reference all about in yesterday’s (or this mornings) late blog??

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Kotsay .333 Francouer .455

Guess our CF can hit tons of points above the mendoza line.

You got to like Prados glove, he has been all over the place so far, including today.

By NRBQ

March 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

glorydays -

He left 10 years ago, after a brain aneurysm, and became a hay-farmer.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Does anybody know if Lew took his medication?

I, for one, hope not. It’s a lot more entertaining here when Lew’s kicking the Mets trolls around! :-)

Sic’em Lew!

By propp

March 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

We’ll sign Bonds as soon as we get Ed Olwine out of retirement to close in case Soriano is hurt

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

ssiscribe, sounds more as if kendrick sux. You can tell since prado has 2 hits already.

By ncgary

March 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

al -fan , let me answer that , when hadez freezes over there still want be a chance

By Jon

March 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

AdirondackDave, it was a joke. Meant to wake you up.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

scoots thanx, man. i guess theres just part of me that reacts strongly to idiots who get paid to talk about baseball, and dont deserve to.

first pitch is only 26 days away….

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

I must be missing something… Maine pitched 3 innings yesterday and they put him in for 3 more today. I mean, how smart can that be? This early in spring? Whats the philosophy there?

By TennesseePaul

March 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

DOB: All this talk about Francoeur and his hits, have they been pulled mainly or what? I know Scoots mentioned a Spring Training Spray chart but I couldn’t find one. Quite frankly I think he’s nuts.

By MGL

March 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Snapper - Did you not get enough of Lew yesterday??

By AdirondackDave

March 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

DOB - I re-read that earlier blog about trading 2 starters… ok, you got me for sure.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Pretty good outing by Hudson after that first inning. Finishes with three innings, four hits, one run, one walk, two strikeouts. 34 strikes in 51 pitches.

Kendrick went 2-2/3 innings for the Phils and allowed 9 hits, seven earned runs. Oy!

By Pete H.

March 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

I know it’s only Spring Training, and early on at that, but I really like the way this team looks. I wouldn’t worry too much about the dings; teams are just extremely careful with players in the spring.

I’m very curious what Bobby is going to do with those last three or four spots on the 25 man. There are so many options available.I’d like to see Lillibridge make the team, but given that Infante is virtually a lock, it don’t look good.

By Bravesfan79

March 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Why do i have a feeling us trading for Kotsay instead of using that money to keep Holmes (the lefty in the Tex deal) will come back to bite us? We should of just relied on the hot CF prospect or the other guy we got in a previous trade. I think either of those would of at least equaled what Kotsays gonna give us.
I sure hope im wrong, but i had this huntch before the trade was even made. What is Kotsay batting so far in spring ??

By JasonInMaine

March 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

I have to start off by saying Lew is as good of a person as he is a blogger. I had the privilege of hanging with The Artist for the first couple of days of spring training.

I also got to briefly meet DOB. Now, onto baseball.

I am excited about this team. Kotsay seems to be a real good dude, but of more importance; he certainly seems to be healthy. If so, and he produces near his career averages; he will be the steal of the winter regarding ROI.

I was really excited about our bullpen as well, but hope Soriano doesn’t have any significant issues. I think he can be a very good closer, but if we lose him; our depth obviously changes as does the expected roles.

Chipper needs to be in the lineup! Dude can simply still flat out rake, and as he and everyone else knows; the Beloveds need him in the lineup to get to where they want to go.

Escobar will be just fine. I hated losing Edgar, but at this stage in their careers; Escobar is the better defender. He will be just fine on offense as well.

I echo Lew’s thoughts on KJ having a breakout season. I would be surprised to see a .290 18 70 with 100 runs scored depending on where he hits in the lineup. Personally, I like him in the leadoff spot as I mentioned the last time I posted.

Glavine will give the Braves what they expect if not a tad bit more. Yes, he wasn’t very good his last three starts last year. How many pitchers had more quality starts last year? Exactly.

IF Hampton is healthy, and that’s a big if; we have a pretty darn good rotation. Glavine as a 3 and a healthy Hampton as the 4? Not too bad.

Javy also looks great and will help the bench.

Where do folks feel our biggest weakness is?

By TennesseePaul

March 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

exactly would we want to sign Bonds and all of his attendant issues

Lew: It’s like the carnival. Use him to pinch hit and the rest of the time keep him in a cage near Toonerville and charge two bits a gander to see him.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

i think we can expect lots of big innings this year!! weve got so many hitters…there arent gonna be many nights when they will all be fooled.

By AdirondackDave

March 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Jon — Yup, I’ll have to pay closer attention, no doubt about it!

By Tomahawkin' Again (Like it's 1995)

March 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

For anyone searching for the game, log onto MLB.com and for $14.95 you can get the radio broadcasts for every game for every team. I bought this last year and it has been fantastic (especially when you’re stuck @ work like I am). Currently listening to Pete on a webcast exclusive to MLB.com since WGST is not doing the game.

By SAMMY THE HEAD MILLER

March 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

HOSS chews Mets and spits Phillies!

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Chrisklob, it cant be that thin.

By ssiscribe

March 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

*By propp

March 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

We’ll sign Bonds as soon as we get Ed Olwine out of retirement to close in case Soriano is hurt*

Oh my! An ED OLWINE reference on the ol’ Braves/MIB. Wasn’t he the guy who spent his offseasons as an usher at Hawks’ games at the old Omni?

—30—

By David

March 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

DOB - thanks for the play-by-play.

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

That’s cute Chrisklob but don’t encourage him. The little booger thinks he actualy runs the blog. He lives in the past and doesn’t even know the North won the war.

By ncscoots

March 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

It’s like the carnival. Use him to pinch hit and the rest of the time keep him in a cage near Toonerville and charge two bits a gander to see him.

Yes, two bits per gander, and one thin dollar per longing look…

Spray THAT, my friend!

By McFann

March 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Well, they put in Corky Miller……sigh. McCann’s day didn’t last too long……rally killer.

: (

By MGL

March 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79 - Kotsay batting .333 so far this spring.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

CArlyle has had 3 straight 1-2-3 innings this spring.

If soriano goes down that dude could go to the bullpen and moylan will close while soriano or gonzo get back. EASY.

By Nick

March 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Maine didn’t pitch yesterday, that was Pelfrey.

By ncgary

March 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Packers’ great Favre retires

By KC

March 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Boy… I’m not jumping to any conclusions, but I really don’t want to see “Soriano” and “elbow” in the same sentence ever again, unless it’s a Cubs article. The mere thought of Soriano having an 08 like Mike Gonzalez’s 07’ is very, very scary.

By StingerSplash

March 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Is MLB going to do anything to the Mets for the insulting lineups they have foisted upon the paying public and the other teams when they have gone on the road this spring? Look at the lineup from the game against the Dodgers at Vero? How far is that from the Mets’ camp? And the best they could do is Ruben Gotay and Brady Clark? Even more reason to hate the Mets.

By Ed Glennon

March 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Great updates DOB.

By TennesseePaul

March 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Scoots: I was thinking, they could probably up the charge to a nice crisp two dollar bill… then you could toss indictments at him. He’d pay for himself!

By eware

March 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

If Bennett struggles this spring, do you guys think Carlyle has a chance of being the long man in the pen?

He’s had some pretty good innings…

By ncgary

March 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

in my opine this is strongest looking team i remember seeing starting a season, for atlanta, i dont see a weakness on the team, a few unproven areas, but weak?? nah

By ssiscribe

March 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Overlord: Add another 1-2-3 inning for Buddy C., who’s set down all 12 hitters he’s faced this spring.

—30—

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

FJR — thanks for that link. Here is an article in the same “30 Questions” series about the Braves, specifically Teixeira.

glorydays — what do you think of REM’s new cd, “New Adventures in Hi-Fi”?

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Nick you are right, sorry then, i got confused.

By ncgary

March 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

if i had my ex’s familys money , id have bought the braves last year and gave bonds a 5 yr contract and benched him

By beekay

March 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042008/sports/mets/elduqueslegliftkicksthebucket_100402.htm

Even more Mets injuries…gotta love it!

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Ohman for the spring 3.0 IP, 1 H, 0.00 ERA.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

StingerSplash

The Mets received a waiver from the MLB about not sending 4 regulars on the road because of all the injuries. Add Gotay to the list - it appears his ankle might be broken , not sprained. I would think this makes you happy - not all p** off?

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Overlord, Pelfrey pitched yesterday. Maine hasn’t pitched since last Thursday.

By the way, that was supposed to be a joke! Sorry if it wasn’t funny. I know, no future in comedy for me.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Phillies have only made 1 substitution. That would be Rollins. I suppose they want some more runs so the scoreboard doesnt looks as bad.

By Chop Chop

March 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

DOB,

After today’s performance by Kyle Kendrick, do you think the Phils are going to revisit that Kobayashi deal?

Inquiring minds want to know.

By Jim

March 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Where IS Bennett this spring? Why hasn’t he pitched yet?

By propp

March 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

I could definitely seen Carlysle filling the long relief. He hasn’t been mentioned by anyone all winter.

By uga-brave

March 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

tenn-paul,

good one at 2:14.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Lillidridge 3 for 4 with a doble.

eware that would be an explanation for so many appearances for buddy this spring. Maybe bobby wants to be sure about him but he might be considering it.

By DAP

March 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

man when i saw that about gotay, i felt a little sad for the mets…then i laughed! that really really sux for them, and being a braves fan, its funny!

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

beekay — that doesn’t sound like a story about an injury. It talks about how El Duque is saying that he’ll have to make an adjustment in his delivery. This link might work better

By Workinlkeadawg

March 4, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

I sure hope Soriano is OK. I think it might be super important for Moylan to be rady to close, until Gonzales is ready. Didn’t Gonzales come advertised as the next big time closer?

By Tomahawkin' Again (Like it's 1995)

March 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Put me down for the following rotation: Hudson #1, Glavine #2, Smoltz #3, Hampton #4 and Carlyle #5

By taco slammer

March 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Dave……Marty Stuart is in Augusta March 14 at the Imperial Theater. Should be a good one. Still riding the Triumph or have you moved on?

By Lew

March 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Apparently Snipper is back here b!tch!ng again that no one loves him and that I get way too much respect. Could it possibly be that I actually add something worthwhile to the blog and Snipper just p!$$e$ and moans how unloved he and the Troll people are?

You realize Snipper, that if I were to post some of the crap on a Mets’ blog that you and your Mets morons insist on posting here, that I would get reamed in a much more crude, rude and disugusting fashion than anything you ever hear in MY neighborhood.

Like on the last blog, you griped for an hour about a post that had already been deleted-at your request.

Oh, and if you doubt that this is Mr. Lew’s Neighborhood, we could always put it up to a vote. If have this strange feeling your point of view would not be the prevalent one.

Just to show that there’s no hard feeling, I’d be more than happy to draw that picture of Carlos “Puddles” Beltran peeing his pants to end the 06 NLCS against mean Ole Adam Wainwright’s nasty curve and award you the first Annual Trollitzer Award for blogging mediocrity. Would that interest you? Of course, you would have to give me your real name and the address of that Auto Body shop where you live in Queens. Or are you from Lithonia, Ga. like Metro Dude? I guess they have auto body shops there, too.

By Bawlmer Brave

March 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I have no problem vaulting back into 1st place (where we belong) against a Muts team that isn’t at full strength. There’s no shame in that. Injuries happen to every team at some point or another.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Three hits for Lillibridge, including a two-out double in the sixth inning.

By KLB

March 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

FYI - Built to Spill is playing at Variety Playhouse next Wednesday, 3/12. Though I guess you won’t be making that one DOB, right?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

taco slammer, rode the triumph bonneville all three days I was home in Atlanta (primarily because my other bike is here with me in Orlando).

I still ride the bonneville around town, easier to get around and park it on the sidewalk, etc, when just going to the record store or the gym or whatever. But if any open road is involved, i’m getting on the big bike. Totally different riding experience.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

DOB

Three hits for Lillibridge, including a two-out double in the sixth inning.

How’s his counting going today? Sorry, couldn’t resist.

By Steve McP

March 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Loved this line on the MLB Mets site reviewing news from the day, including the problem with Gotay:

Another episode of MAS*H — Mets Are Surely Hurting.

By Hammy the Brave

March 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Bravesfan79,

Why are you so paranoid and fatalistic about our Bravos? Do you really hate/distrust Kotsay so much that you prefer either of 2 CF prospects who haven’t played a game above the Class A level, to him?

By the way, if you’ve been a fan for so long, you really need to do a better job of research before commenting on players. The “Holmes” pitcher you refer to in the Tex trade was actually Ron Mahay.

Hammy the Brave

By King Friday

March 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Well said Sir Lew.

By ncgary

March 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

rosario box score looks good whats he throwin?

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Season has not started and the mets are already waiving the white flag.

By Peter Mariano

March 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

DOB did Buddy pitch as good as the box score looks today?

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Tomahawkin’ Again (Like it’s 1995), if buddy is your 5th, what would you do with jair ??

By JMar

March 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Where IS Bennett this spring? Why hasn’t he pitched yet?

Keep in mind that Bennett just pitched in the winter league. He doesn’t need the tune-up like these other guys do to get their season started. And Bobby and the club know what he can do; he doesn’t have to showcase his stuff. I’d say that after pitching last season and winter league shortly thereafter, he needs to rest his arm a little.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Overlord

Season has not started and the mets are already waiving the white flag.

Where did you see this flag being waved?

By Lew

March 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Poor Poor Little Snipper Boy-No I don’t run the blog. That’s done by quite well by David O’Brien and Carroll Rogers. I may not be the Governor or Lieutenant Governor, but I damn well AM the Mayor of this Burg-never doubt that.

I had wondered about the 69 added on to your tag. I’ve finally figured it’s one of two things-either your IQ or the method in which you were conceived. That would explain a good bit.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

On braves radio they say Soriano only has a stomach problem and that bobby says he will pitch him thursday or friday.

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Lew, you couldn’t be any more full of sh—it if were sitting in a tub of your own stool. That stuff might work on all those yahoo’s that read through this blog but c’mon dirtbag, spare us the long winded attemps at sounding clever.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Prado and Lillibridge 3 for 4 today and Flowers (1B) is 3 for 4 in spring. Wonder if bobby could use him instead of Thorman. What i really like is thormans glove, but that kid is a strikeout machine.

Any chance Braves trade Thorman ? nah…..i dont thing so, but i wouldnt mind.

By Chopdawg

March 4, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

DOB, any idea when Smoltz will throw on the backfields again?

By Lew

March 4, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Buddy Carlyle made a comment to me at Spring Training that he would like to prove he was a much better pitcher than he showed last year. I kind of thought he was pretty decent, all things considered about the end of last year’s rotation, but it seems he was serious. If HE is that improved, a good season with a quite deep rotation may be in store.

By 22oz

March 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

I just gave in and got the MLB gameday audio package and have been listening the past few innings. One observation i have made already: The crappy stadium sound effects are already in mid-season form. I’ve already heard “day-o”, the doorbell, and that “minemineminemine”.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

What about thorman and james for bringing Adam L. back.

By MGL

March 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

The kids just smacked Gordon around for another three runs.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Guys, it’s four spring-training innings from Carlyle. Two outings, some of those at-bats by substitutes. And you really think that’s a good sample of his work to make such a decision? Granted, four perfect innings with four strikeouts. But again, it’s barely March.

Do you think he’s made some miraculous improvement since last season, to go from journeyman to lights-out pitcher? Might want to at least wait a few weeks in spring training to make such a decision. You saw Buddy for the better part of a season, and all should know pretty much what to expect from him.

Yes, he’s looked very good. And Hudson has looked very mediocre in two starts. So what? Maybe Carlyle’s ready to overtake Hudson, too?

By Lew

March 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Poor Poor Little Snipper-He just doesn’t comprehend it all, does he? Like I said, who’s resorting to clever and who’s reverting to type and vulgarity? Better be nice before someone sends you back to bed at your impound yard without your dinner. Any time you feel pumped up and confidant enough to go a few rounds with me, I’m ready little boy.

By Interested Observer

March 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Did Lillibridge get any defensive opportunities at 3b? How’d he look?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Not that I’m paying any attention or anything , but so far , the Braves have posted a team ERA of 2.55

By Bryan

March 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

22oz … you see that you can go back and listen to any braves games from 2006 and 2007? I have been doing a lot of work at home and listening to braves game that i know they will win - it is the most soothing thing to work to…

Though the rest of the people in the girl-on-girl-on-manatee-on-donkey-on-girl Live Web cam shoot we are doing at my house think its kinda weird … they prefer that 70’s jam crap that is so overplayed in the industry today … .

By Chop Chop

March 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

If Carlyle is in the Braves’ starting rotation for any reason other than multiple pitching arm dismemberments, I will be quite angry.

DOB, I beseech you to provide any word on whether the Phillies (given today’s poor pitching effort by Kyle Kendrick) are reconsidering the Kobayashi deal.

By Tomahawkin' Again (Like it's 1995)

March 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Overlord, Jair & Buddy will be co-#5’s…pitch whoever is hot or be ready to fill in those 15-20 starts that our veteran starters (I didn’t type over the hill, veteran) are going to miss for various reasons.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Well, we beat one of the teams to beat today 10-1 and lost to the other yesterday in extras. Maybe that will wakeup the media.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

DOB-It is true that it’s early and anything is possible at this point-look to Lance Cormier last season as an example. You’re right, you never know.

However, Buddy did seem pretty serious about amping his output a good bit and it WOULD be cool if he were able to carry through on his goals.

Same goes for JoJo, Bennett and Chuckie. The way these things tend to shake out, we could likely use them all at one point or another.

By Lewser Fartfan, Egomaniac

March 4, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

I may not be the Governor or Lieutenant Governor, but I damn well AM the Mayor of this Burg-never doubt that.

LOL, WHAT A LEWSER! What’s worse? His p** paintings? Or his gigantic ego?

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

DOB when Buddy came in all but 1 phillies starter were in.

By beekay

March 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Daybed Thanks for the updated link….he will be pitching with discomfort and a new delivery style,for an old fart like him changing things might lead to poor results…that fastball might come in a little bit more in the wheelhouse to the opposition.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Interested Observer, Lillibridge handled four or five chances cleanly, looked very good over there. Cox gave him a big review afterward.

By Ace

March 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

“Well, we beat one of the teams to beat today 10-1 and lost to the other yesterday in extras. Maybe that will wakeup the media.”

Doubt it — not on March 4th. But who cares? I’d just assume everyone overlook the Braves as long as they want to — might be extra motivation for our guys. Hopefully we’ll sneak up on ‘em.

By The Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy

March 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Yeah Lew, the old Cormier part of the elbow. Sort of like Charlie’s Horse…Who exactly is Charlie and why does he get the credit for such pain?

Anyway, DOB, The question was, is Soriano’s discomfort similar to what Lance Cormier suffered last spring?

By Renegator

March 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Overlord:

It’s spring training games. It’s our minor leaguers vs their minor leaguers. The outcomes are basically meaningless.

Why is everyone so worried about who the so called experts say are going to win the division. All that matters is what happens on the field when the season starts.

As McFann would say “Sheeeeeeeeesh”

By timthebrave

March 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Don’t read too much into spring training games. You want to go into the season healthy with the best lineup you have. Wins and losses are not as important as how the starters and role players are playing. It also allows management to get and up close look at up and coming talent without traveling the world

By Lew

March 4, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Well-I think we have just seen that Snipper is a multiple personalitied anal retentive going by the names of NY Mets, NL East, No Brain Zone and other such Moronic names. Wasn’t much of a challenge in any of those incarnations and hasn’t done much to prove any rise in IQ during the offseason. Lewser-just where and how often have I heard that one? OH!! The Unoriginality. How typical of such low intelligence Mets’ idiots that seem to abound on this blog.

By Bryan

March 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Bryan, where do you live?

By Workinlkeadawg

March 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

LEW- Yesterday we were talking about the Mets using their bench. If that over hyped bunch of starters they field get on the field, I like the Braves chances much better, even with Kotsay in CF. If Bobby platoons true to fashion this yr let’s hope it’s CF and not LF. Diaz deserves 150 plus appearances this year.

By MacdWolfpack

March 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Dave,thanks for the report on Lillibridge, that was my concern as well. Good to see him do well over there.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Yet no one but the foul mouthed little P** has disputed me.

By James

March 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Overlord, I am with you. Maybe we are jumping the gun a little on Flowers (actually I’m fairly sure we are). In any case, I like Flowers, it’s good to hear we have a decent 1B prospect in our system.

By Josh H

March 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

You have to love how small sample sizes in spring causes everyone to jump to strange conclusions.

Last year, I remember a lot of people saying that Martin Prado should have gotten the 2B job over Kelly. Not because he was better defensively, but they honestly thought he was the better hitter.

And lets not forget, that Ryan Langerhans hit over .300 in spring training. I don’t think he matched that the rest of the year.

Lance Cormier looked pretty solid in Spring Training too. Granted, he did end up hurt.

Let’s wait a few more games before we jump to conclusions…

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Overlord: OK, that settles it then.

And Kendrick gave up nine hits and seven runs in 2-2/3 innings against a lineup sprinkled with reserves. So obviously Carlyle must be as good or better a pitcher, right?

Hope you see the point of my sarcasm. I really like Buddy, think he’s a very serviceable pitcher, the kind you like to have for depth. But to extrapolate the first two Grapefruit League appearances to mean something more than they are, is folly. I just don’t understand the rush to award jobs after less than a week of meaningless exhibition games. These are glorified workouts.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Chopdawg, Smoltz’s backfield work should be tomorrow, since that’s five days since his last one (Friday). We’ll be over in Winter Haven.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Rhinestone, Cormier’s soreness/strain was in the shoulder, or actually beneath it in the armpit area. Not the elbow.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Cowboy-Yeah, I’ve wondered about Ole Charly. Had way too many visits from that horse kicking me in the calf muscle to have any more love for him than these Trolls I constantly have to deal with.

By MacdWolfpack

March 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Dave, how did Flowers handle 1B defensively today? You think he could be an option there both offensively and defensively in a year or so? I’m sure the offense will come but can he handle everyday at 1B?

By OrlandoFan

March 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

DOB has it right. It’s a small sample of work against average oppposition (at best). It’s encouraging but not necessarily convincing. Heck Damian Moss has been OK this spring, too. Almost everyone has. But then Lance Cormier was the buzz of camp last year, wasn’t he?

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

OK LEW you win. I’m so scared and intimidated right now. Please have mercy on me. Let me live to post another day.

By Steve McP

March 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Before we get too carried away with Grapefruit League success let us not lose sight of the fact that the top NL team is the Marlins and the top AL team at this stage is Tampa Bay, that should add some perspective

By chuckaluck

March 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

DOB

If these are glorified workouts, why do they charge so much to watch them?

They are what they are, practice, but it’s still not too early to dream a little.

By rammerjammer

March 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Last time I had something “extrapolated” I couldn’t sit down for a week!

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

By the way, the pitcher who drew the most praise from Cox was Ohman, who showed a nasty breaking ball and good heater today, after throwing a bunch of good changeups in his last outing.

By chuckaluck

March 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

DOB

If these are glorified workouts, why do they charge so much to watch them?

They are what they are, practice, but it’s still not too early to dream a little.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

DOB

These are glorified workouts.

Speaking of which - since we now know that the Braves were less than forthcoming with you on Soriano’s condition as you wrote above (SOP in sports), is it possible that maybe they’re not giving you the whole scoop on Smoltz? Maybe his Seabiscuit like workouts under the cover of darkness on “the backfields” have more to them than him not wanting to get too amped up in a meaningless workout game with the rest of his teammates. Seems to me that a steely veteran like him would be able to keep his emotions in check and get his work in.

Just wondering. Then again, I’m usually way off on these types of thoughts -right?

Can someone check to see if the firebell at the Orlando firehouse missing?

By uga-brave

March 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

DOB,

could not agree more. dont think we will get a great read until the last 5-7 spring games when teams are setting their rotations and playing their starters more. hats off to carlyle if he keeps it up.

would much rather pull for a guy that gets it and appreciates the uniform rather then a couple of guys that got plenty of opportunities, had more talent and never lived up to expectations.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

DOB its is just talk, we are not making the decisions. Curiosity, just that.

I guess if buddy pitches 25 to 30 innings and posts a 2.5 ERA, you certainly cant ignore that, even if it ws only spring. Of course its just spring. But i guarantee you that lots of players are doing their best cause they are being watched. Prado, Lillibridge, Carlyle, Jair, JoJo, Jones, Schafer, Anderson, Thorman, Javy, Peña, Flowers, etc. Same goes for other teams. They have lots of players that are no big league material yet, but yes, of course there are lots of good players. Performance in spring does matter. Maybe 1st week everybody is rusty. But even when you go out and play games with friends in any kind of league, you go out and compete.

I agree, there is not as much competition as in regular season, but the winning instinct is there. They all try to perform the best they can, it is called competition. Therefore you cant ignore performances.

By ncscoots

March 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

These are glorified workouts.

Ought to archive that line, so it can be trotted out a few more times in the next week-and-half. Baseball fans with the bit in their teeth and a blog post in their fingers, well, restraint is just a word in the dictionary. :-)

Jeez, I don’t even worry much about the first 25 real games, and folks here are penciling in Tyler Flowers for 2009 based on a couple of ST AB and some BP, LOL.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Yes Sir , Buddy Carlyle is going to be in the Braves rotation for sure.

The Richmond Braves , that is…..

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Steve McP you forgot to mention what the rest of the standings are.

florida, colorado, atlanta, mets, philadelphia and SD.

All i see there are teams that have been picked by at least 1 analyst to win their division (but the marlins).

Same for the AL….. yankees, bosox and angels are 3 of the top 6 teams….

All of these teams with winning records BTW.

By Mad Mike

March 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

DOB: I finally got Anna Kramer on the way in the mail and I’m psyched. (When I asked the other day, I had some other CDs I had to break in before ordering another crop.) Been checking out her stuff online and I like it. So yeah I can’t wait. Another album I have on the way with Anna Kramer is The Gutter Twins. Heard of ‘em? It’s a collaboration between Greg Dulli (formerly of The Afghan Whigs and currently of The Twilight Singers) and some other guy whose name I can’t call right now. I’m a huge fan of everything Dulli’s done, so I figure this is probably a “can’t miss” too. Seems like there’s been some mention of The Afghan Whigs by you on the blog before, but what about Dulli’s other stuff? Are you a fan?

Also, I get to see Dead Confederate this Wednesday night. They’re playing at my favorite bar here in Valdosta. Interesting note: I know the guy who does their light show. We dated sisters at the same time a few years ago. Small world, huh….

By Hammy the Brave

March 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Good to see you back on the blog, I really enjoy your perspective on the Bravos.

Wanted to toss out a few questions about the bench. Doesn’t it look like Lil’ bridge will take Infante’s place since he’s hurt, and then he’d be sent back down, when Infante is healthy(So they would only take up 1 bench position?). The more I hear about Anderson, the more I feel he can make the team(only true CF backup, and only other leadoff option too). Like another blogger brought up, isn’t there a chance Borchard could take a bench spot, if he can cut down his swing(he has great power, and can play defense from what I’ve read, unlike Thorman)? Could you ask TP if Borchard’s swing can be shortened, and thus make him a more viable bench option?

I know you don’t want to hear this, but doesn’t FW have a concern now about a “real” power backup for Chipper, what with his injury history being brought to the forefront of conversation again. IMO, it’s “penny wise, and pound foolish” to “whistle in the dark” and say Chipper won’t be hurt for long and if he is, we’ll get someone then. Why not look at his injury history for the last 3-4 yrs and realize it’s something the Braves should count on and prepare for in advance? I realize by your comment about Helms that you don’t respect his defense, but he can play 1B and 3b, has been a good ph the last few yrs, and hits lefties really well. I think he could be a potential backup for Chipper, and I’d love it if philly would release him, since it looks like he’s being squeezed out there. If you don’t like Helms or Morgan Ensberg(if released by Yanks), who would you suggest as a power backup to Chipper?(I’d really like us to discuss this as a serious possibility, and not “gloss over” Chipper’s injury history).

Lastly, I know it’s still early, but don’t you think Brandon Jones is showing some of his weaknesses, and may need to spend some more time in AAA? I refer back to those 2 Baseball America articles about his defense, and I think he’s lost a good bit of time to injuries, and needs to develop his power more also. Nothing against him, I just think bench spots should usually go to veteran players, who bring experience to the team, and can often handle lesser playing time better than a prospect(it often hurts their development, IMO).

What say you, DOB?

Hammy the Brave

By Bravesfan79

March 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Hammy the Brave: well i got my point across good enough for you to know who i was talking about didnt i?
I love how you say “our braves” like im a mets fan or something….haha…

So am i really wrong for thinking us letting a left go that was one of the NL’s best relievers last year was a mistake? (especially with sorianos elbow news) Or to think that one of our prospects could hit .250 and make routine plays just like Kotsay will? (im really scarred Kotsays gonna hit closer to .200) I hope im wrong tho!

Was i wrong when i blasted the Braves after last spring training for keeping woodcrap (the ex met trash with a .200 career avg), OVER a .350 spring training hitting Escobar??
I bet you were one of the pple who said… escobar is 2 young, we need veteran leadership instead… Well all we got was veteran CRAP!
I havent been wrong in any of my predictions. And if the Braves had done what i was pushing for on the blog last year (resigning Glavine, and putting Escobar on the team) we would of won the division last year.
Im not perfect thou and definitly am a homer, but im realistic enough to see our faults.
Cant wait for the season to start!

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Anders smoltz is pitching almost everyday, he is working on some things that he does not to work on in real games. He is pitching simulated games. No reason not to say if he is hurt.

Stop daydreaming, braves are not banged up as your mets. It doesnt means they wont. Chipper will be back by weekend as well as soriano (thats what boby said today). That leaves Gonzo as our lonely important injury.

I almost forget, chuck james, but he aint much of a difference at least until now since hampton, jair and carlyle are doing just fine for the final spot in the rotation.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Maybe his Seabiscuit like workouts under the cover of darkness on ?the backfields? have more to them than him not wanting to get too amped up in a meaningless workout game with the rest of his teammates. Anders

Just one problem with that reasoning, Woodward/Bernstein: Smoltz threw that session Friday at 11 a.m. on the closest backfield, for anybody and everybody who wanted to watch. Not at some secret place or unannounced time.

And if he threw as hard as he did, and with as much break on his curveball, without showing any sign whatsoever of discomfort, well, I dare say that’s the kind of pain or injury the Braves would like to prescribe for all their pitchers.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Snipper-If you go down for the count on this blog, it won’t be because of anything I did or said. You will bring it on all by yourself. Who exactly, do you think you’re impressing, anyway? Some of your little elementary school friends? I assure you (and you should have realized from others posts in response to you) that no one here even cares about you, your team or anything you have to say about anything at all. Anyone with a modicum of intellect would have seen that by now.

You can call me all the names you can wrap your feeble mind around and the only one it reflects on is you. I know what my status and standing on this blog is. You apparently have yet to learn. Believe me when I say that nothing you can think of to say impacts anyone’s view of me, my role here and certainly doesn’t affect others’ views of my artwork.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Hammy, I agree with you on your first two paragraphs, down the the Borchard part. Think he’s still a longshot. Not an impossibility, but a longshot.

I do think, if camp broke today, that Lillibridge and Anderson would make the team, ‘Bridge in Infante’s spot and Anderson as fourth OF (can play CF; B Jones can’t, at least not at a ML level).

And if FW is concerned about a “power” backup for Chipper, he’s probably not going to say so publicly and let other teams know they want such a player, while also basically telling Chipper we don’t think you can stay healthy.

Yes, B Jones could be sent back to Richmond. That wouldn’t surprise me.

Not going to spend time speculating on who might fill the backup 3B need that you’ve described. Got a lot to do here, and filling out a roster to fill the needs as you see them isn’t one of them. All due respect, probably best to take that up with other fans of like mind.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Mad Mike, you’re gonna love the Anna Kramer album. It’s outstanding, really is. Short (35 minutes or so) and solid throughout.

Haven’t heard that Dulli project, but I’m sure it’s good, like everything else he does. I’ve got his past couple of solo records and Twilight Singers stuff. Love it all, and of course Afghan Whigs were terrific.

I tell you what, that Dead Confederate EP is one of the best records (or CDs, technically) I’ve bought in a while. Lead singer’s got a great voice, and they remind me a lot, in places, of Buffalo Tom, Nirvana, and Neil Young. Really strong debut by them. Can’t wait to hear their first full-length album, whenever it comes out.

By OrlandoFan

March 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Had to love the “Seabiscuit-like” line….good one, Anders.

By Workinlkeadawg

March 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Final blog on this subject: Does ANYONE agree Cox should platoon CF until Anderson, Kotsay or whomever establishes themselves. Leave LF alone, Diaz proved to be a clutch hitter much more than our All-star CF departed.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

If these are glorified workouts, why do they charge so much to watch them? chuckaluck

You really have to ask that? Simple: Because MLB teams and Dark Star Inc. want to make lots of money, and because … they … can.

Why does the NFL charge regular-season prices for those garbage early preseason games? Because they are a money-making machine and because … they …. can.

(hey, at least baseball doesn’t charge full regular-season prices for spring training games. but Dark Star does charge $11.75 admission just to watch a spring training workout, before the games even begin down here.)

By Epinephrine

March 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

First trip to the dark star today. That place is totally obnoxious-DOB, I don’t know how you do it. Constant horrible music and Disney plugs, ugh. But it was pretty amusing to hear afternoon delight blared out over the speakers.

But nice win today, Bravos crushed it. Lillbridge looked great, as did Ohman. Francouer definitely has some very real pop in his bat. Power appears to be right back.

Am following them today in Winter Haven, tomorrow at Lakeland, both within walking distance of the stadium. Pretty psyched to check out Jair.

DOB, any recommendations for the city of Winter Haven?

By Anders

March 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

DOB

And if he threw as hard as he did, and with as much break on his curveball, without showing any sign whatsoever of discomfort, well, I dare say that’s the kind of pain or injury the Braves would like to prescribe for all their pitchers.

Hey Jimmy Olsen,

If he’s throwing free and easy and snapping curveballs off at will and has no medical concerns, why not just throw in the games like the rest of the staff? Maybe the games just screw up his tee times?

No response to my earlier post about Soriano? - being that you ripped me up and down this blog when we last discussed his contract signing. He signs a lite contract and you say it’s because he wants guaranteed security(As if the millions he would have gotten in arbitration wouldn’t accomplish that). I say it seems suspicious to leave so many potential dollars on the table given where he stands in regards to his pending free agency. You say “How the H do I know what’s in his head” blah, blah, blah. He shows up to camp with sore wing. Hmmmm.

By Anders

March 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Orlando Fan

I’m glad someone took it in the tone it was meant.

BTW- I saw Bobby Cox whittling a piece of wood outside the Braves locker room earlier today while DOB and others stood with their pads and pens waiting for Smoltz to come out. Cox said “Sorry boys, he’s still sleeping. Maybe tomorrow.”

By MA

March 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Has Gorkys Hernandez played yet (and, if so, how did he look)?

By Murphy

March 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Anders,

Good grief, do some research on Smoltz before posting. DOB and others have repeatedly reported that Smoltz is throwing on the backfields to work on new approaches without the stress of the competitive juices that flow during an actual game. Spring training is practice, like someone else said. (Now see AI screaming, “Practice, We talking about Practice?” hehe)

By flange1

March 4, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Anders,

I think that Smoltz’s work outs are so he can work on using NEW pitches at different in the count. He finds it difficult to do that in a spring training game because he is so competitive that he wants to win not practice. By working on the NEW pitches in a simulated game, he can concentrate on the pitches and not the score.

Very similar to a pro or good am player in golf. It is hard to practice when you are playing a match no matter if it id for $2 or the US AM.

In terms of Soriano, I don’t think there is any sort of subterfuge going on here. Soriano is a simple guy raised in poverty. He wanted a nice contract. It is only 2 years, so he can make more money later, but if he gets hurt and can’t play, he can live on the money from this contract for the rest of his life…

Sniper, Lew IS the Mayor of this blog. If you don’t like it, move to a different blog, ok?

By BA

March 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Why does the AJC charge for this garbage paper? Because they can!

By OrlandoFan

March 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Hey Workin… I like Diaz, always have. I think he’s a professional hitter. Reminds me a bit of Edgar Martinez (I know, he has to earn his stripes). But he seems to have the right approach and to improve consistently. He’s not going to hit .350 or hit 30 HRs (and certainly not steal bases), but he puts the bat on the ball in all situations and generally knows how to play the game. Heck, even his defense has been good enough. I like the guy and think he’s a keeper.

By Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

March 4, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

DOB, since B. Pena and Thorman were signed to one year contracts does that mean the Braves can send them down to Richmond without having to place them on waivers?

By William

March 4, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

DOB Glad you are back with us. Wasn’t the same around here without you.

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

ANDERS:

You’re such a genius Anders. Picking up on Soriano’s misery without even knowing the guy. Probably don’t believe my prognostication about the longevity of Santana’s arm do you? No feel for that one buddy? Come on, think about it. Nah. Minaya’s a genius too, right? Just stole him from Minnesota for no reason.

By Overlord

March 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Anders youve got your explanation. Smoltz is not hurt. I went golfing with him today and he told me he was playing spring games so YOU couldnt watch him pitch and his new secret weapon. Got it? ;-)

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

* Lew However, there is one major difference-no matter what I thought of my Braves at any given time, I never went on another teams’ blog and made an absolute a$$ of myself like so many Mets’ fans have done here.*

If blogs were invented back in the 80’s or early 90’s it would have happended. Hey how is the braves body count adding up. Losing a slugger and a closer for an extended amount of time might find you too far behind to catch up if you cant plug those holes. Stop predicting injuries for the METS, its having an adverse effect on the braves roster.

LETS GO METS!!! (Even the ones not old enough to drink a beer yet)!!!

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

ROBERT:

Good question re: Pena and Thorman. I’d like to know also.

By Lewser Fartfan, Egomaniac

March 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Another Spewlitzer from the Lewser Fartfan, Egomaniac.

You can call me all the names you can wrap your feeble mind around and the only one it reflects on is you. I know what my status and standing on this blog is.

LOL. Status? Standing? I’m sorry. I thought this was just a blog? No? This is real life for you? How sad.

By brian

March 4, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Even if Lillebridge is not that comfortable at 3B, any chance the Braves keep Lillebridge as the superutility guy starting him at SS and Escobar at 3B when Chipper needs a night off. If Lillebridge could play an occasional game at 3B, SS, 2B, and CF he will get plenty of work and help rest the starters

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

OVERLORD:

Yours of 6:03 p.m. Good one.

By DonCoburleone

March 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

DOB I agree with you on Lillibridge and Anderson. They both seem perfect for a bench role. Anderson can provide speed and + defense at every outfield spot while Lillibridge can (possibly) be a backup at SS, 2B, 3B and CF while also adding speed… Plus Lil’ bridge also can provide some pop.

Another thing is Buddy Carlyle, he is what I like to call the perfect “#7 Starter”. And what I mean by the #7 starter is that he is not the first AAA pitcher to be called up (that would be reserved for the top prospect in AAA); but if a starter is needed beyond that Carlyle is perfect. Not great stuff, but can come up and throw strikes and if he gets a little lucky (or is pitching against a sub-par offense) he will keep your team in the game… Bottom line, if we see Carlyle in the big league rotation at any point this season it will mean at least 2 of our starters have been lost to injury… So I’m hoping we don’t see Buddy AT ALL this year!!!

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

If things go south in ‘08 and we’re not doing well by the trade deadline(which I can’t see happening)would it be feasible to TRADE Teixeira for some needs? What’s his market value with the contract expiring?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Robert (CIP), no, not at all. Doesn’t matter if they signed one-year deals or 10-year deals. They’re out of options, so they can’t be sent down without first clearing waivers….

Brian, I don’t see Braves moving Escobar over to play 3B when Chipper needs a night off. Escobar is the SS and they want him to be an All-Star caliber player there.

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

LEW:

I gotta’ say man your comments WERE a little over the top. We all put our pants on one leg at a time.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

Why does the AJC charge for this garbage paper? Because they can! BA

True. However in this case, genius, you’re reading a blog online. And it cost nothing. So I guess you get what you paid for, eh?

MA: Gorkys Hernandez is neither on the roster or a non-roster invitee to camp. He’s in minor league camp, and they haven’t even started playing games over there yet.

Anders: Sure, whatever you said. Good point.

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

LEW

OK, now Im curious. Just what exactly do you think your status-standing-or “role” on this blog is??

Does your little trip to spring training make you some type of assistant blog master?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine, you are correct about Dark Star, my friend. Now you understand.

Never fear, you’ll be experiencing old-school spring training tomorrow at Winter Haven, a great little park, albeit without some of the conveniences. And then you’ll get to experience probably my favorite spring training park, Tigertown in Lakeland. They’ve done a great job of restoring and updating it without losing any of the old charm. Love that place. And if it’s nice out that day, I’m gonna ride the bike over, since it’s only about 35 minutes from the rental house, all on the highway.

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

richbrave, finaly someone with a grip……..Lew you can learn a few things from this man. Start taking notes.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

MetroDude-Doesn’t matter when Al Gore invented the blogs. I don’t blog on any other teams’ blogs now and would not have done so had they existed back then.

Why would I want to? You know I have no use for the Mets. Why would I want to converse with their fans who I have seen to be rude, crude, vulgar and barely literate, much less well informed about anything meaningful?

As I’ve said numerous times in the past to such stalwart Idiots as NY Mets, NL East, NL Champs, NO Brain Zone, Snipper and The Drooling Fool (did you kill him before he reproduced?)- if you or the others do not like our responses to y’all and you don’t agree with anything we have to say, then why do you hang out here?

Are you masochists or just outcast from your own group of morons? If you don’t like us, you don’t like David O’Brien, or our opinions, then just leave and find someplace that makes you positively orgasmic in their agreement with your inanities.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Caveman-No, I’m not a Junior reporter, much less an assistant blog master-I added my insight on Spring Training, because I was asked to by others who post here-and thanked by many of them when I did.

My status and role on this blog is as an individual who is generally respected by his peers, who’s posts are frequently mentioned by regulars and newcomers as being somewhat insightful. Apparently,in his own posts, Chipper agreed with this assessment, as he mentioned it.

Does this make me special? Not in my mind, but it was remarked on by quite a few of the regulars. It was even remarked on by the blogs’ true leader, David O’Brien.

In addition, I see my role here as The Artist of the Blog. It seems that most of the Denizens here and all of the recipients of my art work are exceedingly happy that, at my own time and expense (I have never even charged postage for the drawings), I have seen fit to award my art to many of them for posting such eloquent entries-the true stuff of what makes this blog special.

If this gives me a somewhat elevated status here-which I believe to be a quite real, if undeserved state of being, then I accept it with pride and gratitude to those who have accorded me this respect.

Hope this answers your question-even though I get the feeling it was not asked for any reason other than to make me look foolish. I’ll leave it to those who post here regularly to judge whether or not I am respected, or a legend in my own mind. Happy now?

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

LEW

I don’t like the Mutts fans at all but something tells me that if you’ve been called “lewser” on multiple occasions than you might be bringing it on yourself with your “holier-than-thou” attitude here on the blog.

Maybe you should step back from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths and realize this is just a BLOG.

It ain’t real life !!!

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Lew, shut up we get it. Lets stick to baseball. That’s what this blog is about……isn’t it? What so sinful about a little trash talk between rivals? Who care’s if it’s a braves blog. If you couldn’t spend a little time going back and forth with a rival team then what’s the point in all of this anyway…..lighten up dude.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

RichBrave-A little over the top? Damn. There’s a first time for everything. That’s NEVER happened here before.

A little over the top and it’s not real life. Then what does it matter?

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

LEW

Make you look foolish??

Not at all, I just wanted to hear straight from you what you think your “status” here is.

Knowledge and insight - you have your good days and your bad - just like everybody else.

Elevated?? I don’t think so.

Defensive?? I would say very.

I just think you take this whole blog a little too seriously and judging from your post you expect or want the rest of the blog to come to your defense.

I am not trying to insult you I am just saying if you didn’t take it so personal you wouldn’t get so worked up over meaningless banter from people who obviously don’t know what the crap they are talking about.

Don’t get all worked up, just know that what you say is a good opinion and don’t expect or need it to be complimented or congratulated to verify it to yourself.

I mean just look at Metro-dude. He actually gets on here and thinks the Mutts are “America’s” team. Now granted - he is an idiot - but he does stand by himself without need of backup.

Which is good ‘cuz he ain’t gonna get any around here anytime soon. I mean really — The Mets — C’MON !!

By Lew

March 4, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Caveman-I can defend myself or my position just fine on my own. If others come to my defense or take my side of things, then it is because they choose to do so. Do you think I run out every time I have to deal with some little Mets’ fool’s tirade against me and email all to come have my back? Just isn’t so.

Yes, I have my good days and bad days like everyone else. I have never claimed otherwise. I have never claimed to be all that except as an artist. In that regard I’m damn good and maybe as good as most that pick up a pencil, though I’m sure there are some who would disagree there, as well.

You think I’m too big for my own hat? Fine, that is your opinion. You’re welcome to it and I would not try to dissuade you from it.

Am I argumentative. Sure I am-is this not the forum for it? I’m told that it is cool to talk trash by the Mets’ fans, yet when I talk trash in return it is looked upon as me feeling superior and being condescending. Fine-again, their opinions and they are welcome to them. However, I would remind you of the old saying about opinions and certain anatomical parts. Ain’t no big deal one way or another.

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

So you enjoy staying in your own little corner of the world called braveland and get upset if another teams name is mentioned. What happened to the good back and forth banter that was good while the braves were winning. Face facts dude, as long as the braves contniue to slide in the NL east, you dont want anybody here pointing out the obvious….you guys are back to the stone ages of baseball. Now go give us another soliloquy on why us METS fans arent welcomed here. And then give another one on why the braves medical examiner should be fired, Soriano got over on you guys for 9mil, and you cant even afford that to go to waste!!!!

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

I call for a group hug

By McFann

March 4, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Face facts dude, as long as the braves contniue to slide in the NL east, you dont want anybody here pointing out the obvious

The same cann be said about you guys about the Mets, dude.

I have a question that may not have an answer, but here it goes anyway:

On braves.com, ya know, they have the (player page)[http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=435263] for each player. Now, each player has his own “photo gallery”. Does anybody know any way to get a player’s photo gallery from 2006? I’ve been going crazy tryin’ to get a photo from the 2006 All-Star Game—Google, mlb.com Photo Store, all that—but I’ve had no luck. If anybody cann help, thank you.

By Yars

March 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

If Lillibridge is on the opening day roster until Infante is ready, I would assume he will play 3B if Chipper gets hurt early on. Like DOB stated, Yunel is a potential all star SS. When Infante is ready to come off the DL, & if Chipper stays injury free, Lillibridge will be sent to Richmond, where he can play everyday, whether it’s at CF, 3B, SS. He could one day be for the Braves what DeRosa is with the Cubs. He’s pretty much in the lineup every day, whether it’s in the IF or OF. Prado can play 3rd & 2B. Can he play SS as well, or do the Braves just see him as a bat/pinch runner off the bench & giving Kelly the occasional day off?

By fastasballs

March 4, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Now that the Muts fans have declared Soriano to have a career ending injury I guess we will need a closer. Do we even need one to finish in 3rd place? I was really looking forward to the season until all was lost…….

Do you Mut idiots have anything better to do with your time than come over here & spew garbage? Can’t you beat your bird cage chests elsewhere?

Face the facts, you have no depth either on the bench or in the minors. Should your “built to win” team drop a few guys to injuries(looks like they started early), then what are you going to do? I’m not talking stars either although you seem to have more feeble ones than we do.

It’s a long season & I would prepare for the worse after last year’s finish.

I would really have a hard time giving anyone else hell after the COLLAPSE of 2007, but I guess it’s where your from. Talk is worth more than results, the Muts new moto.

By McFann

March 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Do you think I run out every time I have to deal with some little Mets’ fool’s tirade against me and email all to come have my back?

Yeah, that’s the real reason he gives out Wurlitzers: To get people’s names and e-mail addresses so he cann ask them to come to his aid. LOL!!

Seriously, though, Lew’s a big boy. He cann take care of himself. You guys just need to get over your jealously of him.

Crud. My link didn’t work in my last post.

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Metermaid

“Stoneages of baseball”?

Like I said before - you’re an IDIOT !!!

Does your wife/boyfriend/or significant blow-up doll not give you the attention you so desperately need??

By BossLady

March 4, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

For some reason it appears that the METS pick up all the big named players whose egos don’t allow them to play as a team. This has been going on for years. Granted they have talented players, but, they will not join together for the better of the team. Maybe, they could take some personality altering training where they could be retrained to think as a team. When all come in swinging for the fences to up there stats and promoting their value then it hurts. They even get angry with each other. That is not team work.

It is something in the Braves organization that is experienced when players come here to play. Maybe, they want to do good for Bobby Cox, the Atlanta team or they know they will get attention as a Braves player. We are America’s team.

By Epinephrine

March 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

This is too rich; Mets fans enjoying the whiff of an injury…Your entire roster is on the verge of falling apart. But seriously, enjoy Soriano’s elbow soreness as much as you can.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Yars, Prado doesn’t play shortstop, which is a problem (for him) when Braves are looking to maximize versatility in those last roster spots.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

McFann, what kind of picture are you looking for? An action shot of your hero (I’m guessing)? You looking for something for your computer or you want something to hang on your wall?

By chuckaluck

March 4, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

DOB— I have been reading your blog since late last season and really enjoy. This is the first day I have posted. Don’t know why, but it seemed like the right time to jump into the fray. It’s the best Braves info anywhere. Keep up the good work.

A few quick question: How does Bobby seem at this point in the drill as compared to past years? Is he more or less relaxed? Do you get the feeling he likes what he is seeing?

By McFann

March 4, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Just somethin’ small for my computer, Klobber. Sorry, should have been more specific. It’s not an action shot. I think it was taken during BP.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

McFann, this page might be what you’re looking for.

Click here

You might like this one too:

[Click here}(http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070410&contentid=1890754&vkey=newsatl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl)

By Lew

March 4, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

McFann-I’ll look through my old Chop Talk magazines from that time period. There might be something there that I can find for you.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Let me try that second one again….

Click here

By McFann

March 4, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it!

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

162 regular season games from now we’ll all laugh about this….(Except Lew)

By McFann

March 4, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

BTW—Great photo, Klobber.

8 )

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Thought you’d like it McFann.

By McFann

March 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Well, I gotta be loggin’ out. Sorry to rush off. Again, thanks for the photos!

Night all!!

And remember, Sniper, “He who laughs last, laughs…he who…uh…who he……AND DON’T YOU FORGET IT!!”

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

sniper

I’m laughing now!!

By Andy

March 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

Trade for Joe Nathan!!!

By Lew

March 4, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

Snipper-You and Your fellow Mets’ fans may not believe this, but my pulse rate never went over 75 during the entire day of blogging. I don’t get upset at all. You’re just an exercise in me not putting up with any grief, that’s all. You flatter yourselves thinking you set my blood pressure to the bursting point. Never happens. As far as I’m concerned, if you didn’t address me in your posts, I probably wouldn’t notice you exist.

I’ve had health problems that were life threatening that I survived. You ain’t sh!t.

By SNIPER-69

March 4, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Good night all…..you too Lew.

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

So nobody is upset with Soriano for his injury?? You guys are right, bragging on injuries in not cool at all, but where does his injury measure with Chumpers. Both these guys need to be ready opening day. Sure you can get away without Soriano for a little while, but wihtout the Chumpster, you guys are lacking. A decline in offense and no closer, yeah the METS injuries are more detrimental to the team then the braves. Go luck on leaving spring training with more thatn your AAA squad. And before you go clowning the METS, the young guys and our set pitching is what got us 5 wins in a row!!!!

By Epinephrine

March 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

The biggest consequence of a Soriano injury, I think, would a heavier reliance on Mike Gonzales. But it is because of him that I do not react with as much concern over this elbow business.

People seem to forget about what a great pitcher Gonzo is. His mentality is ideal for the closer role, and assuming he rehabs well (which by all indications he is), our bullpen will be flat out nasty. A Soriano injury puts the month of May in question, but it certainly isn’t the end of the world.

By macdaddy

March 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB. I’m sure others have brought this up, but how good has Damian Moss looked? Man, I saw the ESPN game and he looked just like he did in ‘02. Low 90’s fastball, better change, good hook/slide. I use to love him and think it’s a cool story, even though he’s probbly got a snowballs chance of making the team. Do you have any thoughts?

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine: If Soriano misses the begining of the season this is what you will hear from braves fans at the end of the season which will be all too familiar:

2007 The Mets only won 4 more games than the Braves last year. Take away Andruw’s slump and Wickman’s blown saves the Braves would have buried them!

2008 The METS only won 20 more games than the braves this year. Take away Chumpers missed games from injuries and Soriano/Gonzalez/Moylan/Acosta’s blown saves and we would have buried them!!!

Let the mantra’s begin!!

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Chuckaluck, thanks for participating. As for Bobby, he seems a bit more genuinely confident in the team’s pitching this year. Really believes they’re set up well, both in the rotation and ‘pen.

I really don’t get a feel for whether he’s leaning towards retiring after season or not. One day he sounds like he is, the next day (or hour) he’ll say something that makes me doubt he is.

I really don’t think he’s made up his mind on that, and the outcome of the season, how smoothly things go, etc, might affect that decision, certainly.

But to answer your question, I really get a sense he’s more confident about the Braves’ chances in the East than he’s been the past couple of years, because of the pitching, the 200-inning veteran guys, the young guys including Jurrjens, etc.

By Hammy the Brave

March 4, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Thanks for the earlier answers.

Now for some bullpen questions. How is the battle for the second lefty spot shaping up, between Ridgeway and Ring? B. Shanks said they were both unimpressive in their first appearance. Does Roger M. express much concern about Ring’s supposed control issues? Also, could D. Moss or Dan Smith figure into this battle?

Do you think Acosta, Boyer, and Resop are fighting for 1 spot? Although I like Acosta and think he could be a closer down the line, I might want Boyer to win this battle due to the options game, and think he could help with closing also.

Finally, the longman spot in the bullpen. I heavily favor Jeff Bennett here, over Carlyle, and possibly Desalvo. Do you see D. Moss as part of this battle, or what other pitchers here?

Also over on B. Shanks site, a poster said he heard Pete Van Wieren say he heard from “sources” that Prado and/or Thorman could be traded. I think this could be good for the Bravos to package them together and/or with others to add minor league depth, another bullpen lefty, or a power bat for the bench. Have you heard anything about this? I respect Pete a lot, and don’t consider him to be a person to talk without having facts to back it up.

 Have fun for us who can't be there in Florida,

   Hammy the Brave

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

LEW:

Easy man. Just statin’ my case.

By Epinephrine

March 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

I’m genuinely curious, Metropolitan Man, how old are you? I hope you are young-otherwise your excessive use of exclamation points is pretty creepy.

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

LEW

How many times are you going to tell us that you have had life threatening illness. You use that as a crutch for sympathy every 2-3 weeks. I have had several life threatening situations as well — so what?

Meteorman Your beloved Mets are already falling apart at the seams. A little arm pain for Soriano and a tweaked hammy for Chipper basic spring training happenings. If I were you I would worry about who’s going to play 1st for your team. You also should hire a fire safety expert cuz the number of birthday cake candles in your clubhouse could light up NY.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Metro, with all the REAL injuries that your ragtag bunch of losers have you shouldn’t be talking a bunch of crap on a Braves blog. Randolph couldn’t field a complete lineup of bonafide major leaguers right now if his life depended on it.

The Braves have a couple of minor issues to think about. You’re list of injured could fill up the entire ER at Bellevue.

Seriously, if you actually brought something of interest to discuss on this blog people wouldn’t disrespect you so frequently. Why don’t you quit trash talking for a day or two and find out.

By richbrave

March 4, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Capt. CAVE:

Dude, seriously funny post on METEORMAN.”light up NY”

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Epinephrine: Excessive use of exclamation points is creepy….it must not take much to scare you. How old are you is a more appropriate question?!?!?!?!?!

I was born in the 70’s, I’ll let you pick a number.

Capt. Caveman: After watching decades of big names get sign only to fizzle at Shea, I’m getting a kick out of watching these young guys play with emotion and enthusiasm. As long as the pen and starting rotation (exclude El Duque, I’m rooting for Pelfrey) stay the way it is, we can duplicate Arizona of last year. Pitching, pitching, pitching and a run here and there. This change of pace (albeit by injury) is making this METS fan giddy. Let the youth movement begin at Shea/Citifield.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (CREEPY) LETS GO METS!!!!

By Shamus Thacker

March 4, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Anybody like Government Mule?

By fastasballs

March 4, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

DOB Your motorcycle riding is making me jealous. I got a day in this weekend, today the rain killed any thought of it. That’s the best part of spring, baseball & mototcycles. Well, can’t leave out the scantily clad ladies either, lol.

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

chrisklob: Tried talking sense on this blog after I got my teeth cut here….but I was the only one so I had to give it up. I have plenty of baseball insight because I love the game. I’d play it for free if I could. But because I root for the METS, trash talking is all I have here until the real baseball fans talk and not “fair weather” fans. We use to have it going on good here until the METS started winning and the braves started losing.

Keep dumping on Willie, he just might get replaced with your worst nightmare…Bobby Valentine.

By ColoradoBravesFan

March 4, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Met Boy… isn’t the Mets ST record 4 wins; 3 losses and 1 TIE to the U of MICH.

No 5 game win streak yet… correct?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 4, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

Metroman , if pulling off the greatest collapse (CHOKE) in MLB history is your idea of winning , you need medical intervention.

By chrisklob

March 4, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

Metro, I wasn’t dumping on Randolph, but frankly, I’d rather see Valentine back in that job. Aside from the pennant in 2000, he never won anything while he was the Mets manager. Never could wrest the NL East crown away from BC and the Braves.

And who are these “young guys” you were referring to in your 10.51 post? Dude, did you not get the memo? Your farm system is barren.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

Caveman-Yeah, Dude, I get it. You don’t like me. You think I’m an A*******hole and you have no respect for me, my accomplishments (or lack thereof) or my life experiences and I’m certain yhou think my art sucks, too. Don’t quite knowing now how I’ll go on knowing how you feel, but with your permission, I’d like to try. OK?

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Fastasballs: affirmative.

By uga-brave

March 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

lew,

don’t care what anyone says your a damn good dawg.

as for your reports from S.T., i really enjoyed them. gave us a true braves FAN’S perspective. lets just say you are the lead prosecutor when it comes to setting certain guys straight, you do all the dirty work so we dont have to.

By Epinephrine

March 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

MetropolitanMan, I am sorry if I failed to make myself clear. Let me try again. It is “creepy” in the sense that you appear to be lacking a vocabulary allowing expression through words rather than cliches and emoticons. Let me break that down like a fraction-you don’t seem to be very smart. A man of your age should be capable of putting together more cogent sentences. That failure is an indication that nobody here ought to be taking anything you regurgitate back on to your keyboard seriously.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

UGABrave-Thanks, Dude. Apparently Caveman doesn’t see my socially redeeming qualities. Must be a Gator or some such thing.

By Capt. Caveman

March 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

LEW

Wow dude, you really have a complex. I didn’t say any of that, you just took an exaggerated view of what I said.

Obviously you have some type of inferiority issues — all I said was quit reminding us of your health problems as a defense mechanism. A lot of people on this blog have serious “real” problems as well, they just don’t air them on here for everybody to hear.

You set yourself up on here earlier as a person of importance on this blog yet now you are playing the poor sympathetic senior citizen.

And I think your art is good. In some instances great but that has nothing to do with my responses to your posts. One has nothing to do with the other. Stop looking for battles where they don’t exist.

Now you are starting to make yourself look foolish.

By David O'Brien

March 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Hammy, it’s far too early to say how any bullpen race is shaping up. Far, far too early. Most guys have made no more than two appearances.

Keep in mind, though, that Ring is out of options and Ridgway has options. And when they got Ridgway, Braves made it clear they weren’t expecting him to be ready to help the big league club at beginning of this season.

And no, I don’t see Moss and certainly not Dan Smith making the team out of camp. Moss has been over for a couple of games, at least, but I haven’t heard Dan Smith’s name mentioned.

By Lew

March 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

Caveman-You think I mention my health problems for sympathy. Couldn’t be further from the truth. I would need sympathy if I hadn’t survived. I can’t begin to tell you how happy I am to be here to let you tell me what an a*******hole I am. It beats hell out of the alternative. Go for it.

By Metropolitan Man

March 4, 2008 11:54 PM | Link to this

ColoradoBravesFan: You are right, it was 4 wins on the 4ht, and it will be 5 wins on the 5th.
And who are these “young guys” you were referring to in your 10.51 post? Dude, did you not get the memo? Your farm system is barren.

Well as you guys know most of the METS starters are hurt and havent played yet. The youung guys are the ones bringing home the wins. Who else could it be if Beltran, Delgado, Castillo, and Church are all trying to get back.

Any of these names look familar:

AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG Reyes, SS 3 0 1 0 0 0 4 .357 Tejada, SS 2 2 2 1 0 0 0 .750 Hernandez, A, 2B 5 1 2 1 0 1 5 .227 Wright, DH 3 0 1 0 1 0 1 .143 a-Carrera, E, PH-DH 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 .200 Pagan, CF 5 0 3 2 0 1 1 .423 Castro, C 3 0 0 0 0 1 4 .125 Casanova, C 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 .500 Martinez, F, RF 5 0 0 0 0 1 3 .235 Clark, LF 3 0 1 0 0 2 0 .263 Murphy, 1B 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 .143 Lucas, 3B 3 1 1 0 1 1 2 .333 Totals 39 6 13 6 2 7 21

By Lew

March 4, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Caveman-Yes, You must be right. I have a complex. Probably many of them (though inferiority is hardly one of them). I appreciate your pointing them out to me. I will go now and contemplate my wretchedness. Please forgive me. I’ll try to be a better person. I promise. Really I will. Good night.

By uga-brave

March 4, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this

DOB,

how have the crowds been, in terms of attendance? just wondering if the price of gas or the impending recession has afffected the turnout.

got to believe it might have some effect at the TED, or other ballparks, at some point this season.

By Metropolitan Man

March 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

Epinephrine:

You have got to be joking. Nobody on this blog uses the “King’s English” here so what is your real deal? You need a reason other than baseball to make conversation with me, so be it!!! Bottom line is your baseball knowledge is probably very low while you think you have riled me up!!!! Not a chance, I know why I blog here and I have a blast!!!!!! Your attempt was another “shot in the dark” (you can have that cliche) that always misses its target!!!!! Now go google some info on a baseball team and keep pretending like you are an actual sports fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Capt. Caveman

March 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Link to this

Metroman

I have a question??

I have several friends that work at Turner Field and hook me up with seats. These seats are right next to the visitors dugout on the 3-5 right behind the on deck circle. So at some point in the season when the Mets are here I would like to invite you to sit down there with me - you can cheer them while I will heckle and we can both drink a beer.

It should at least be fun for some laughs and 9 inning long argument.

What do you think??

By FJR

March 5, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

JFC, some of the idiots responding to metro man really make me sad to admit that they’re fellow braves fans. Metro man is here to flame you guys and boy do you ever fall for the bait. you know he giggles with glee every time he gets one of you riled up.

By Metropolitan Man

March 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

Capt. Caveman: You are on . If you are you serious thats a great gesture I would love to take you up on that. I have drank beers at Turner with good blogging guys like Grinch and Scribes and even went drinking afterwards to talk more sports. Now if this goes down, allow me to buy the 1st round!!

By Capt. Caveman

March 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Link to this

BA

Does that stand for Bad Attitude??

By Moby Grape

March 5, 2008 1:23 AM | Link to this

sounds more as if kendrick sux. You can tell since prado has 2 hits already.Overlord

whats that mean? Prado has a career BA of .300 in the minors which is dam good for a middle infielder. He hit better in AAA than Lillibridge did last year.Get a clue.

By ippississiM

March 5, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this

Metro:

I for one think it’s great that you’re excited about your team. I am also willing to forgive the blind homer-ness you display, especially since it’s just a basic part of being loyal to your team. Remember how many people on here were stoked about having Davies and Cormier battling for the 5th rotation spot? You, MetroMan, have that kind of optimism and enthusiasm for the Mets, and isn’t rooting for your team to rise above expectations part of enjoying the game?

This is probably the last time I’ll step out of character this far. Expect to see more Mets-bashing from me in the future, but we all know that it wouldn’t be as much fun without a good rivalry.

By AmazinsAgin08

March 5, 2008 2:01 AM | Link to this

Yunel is a potential all star SS.Yars

how can he be an all star when he is the 4th best SS in his own division? My Goodness.

By jed

March 5, 2008 3:14 AM | Link to this

the braves list lillibridge at 5’11 and 192 lbs? yeah right. i sat directly behind the r-braves dugout last summer and watched several games. lillibridge didnt look any more than 5’7 and 150 lbs. looked like a high-school kid out there. that’s no knock against him, though. he’s a player.

By William

March 5, 2008 5:06 AM | Link to this

DOB I have a Chipper question that you already probably know or maybe you can ask him. When asked Chipper said he only needs 30 AB’s to get ready for the season lefty and that he’s good to go righty. Question is………..Was he a natural right handed batter before he started switch hitting and if so, at what age did he start batting lefty. Thanks! William

By William

March 5, 2008 5:09 AM | Link to this

I just had a crazy thought pop in my head at 5am. What is Bobby going to call Lillibridge when he is encouraging him at the plate??????? LILLY??? Something about that just doesn’t sound right.

By Jeff321

March 5, 2008 5:23 AM | Link to this

“He can play, man,” Braves manager Bobby Cox said of Lillibridge

Oh really? Does he play like Pete Orr, Bobby?

By ssiscribe

March 5, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this

Top of the morning, denizens. I must’ve missed it because I can’t find it either on AJC or MLB this morning, but who is slated to pitch after Jurrjens today? Just curious.

Found a pennant I bought my kids in Lakeland during my spring trip two years ago. Echoing the comment from above (which I read sometime last night) about Tigertown being an awesome place to go watch a game, the yard there is newly refurbished yet still very charming and old school.

Gotta run start the day. More later.

The Scribe abides.

—30—

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Jurrjens to be followed by Jeff Bennett and a battalion of lefties: Francisley Bueno (we’ve petitioned for him to make the team simply because of his name), Royce Ring and Jeff Ridgway.

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Oh, and toeing the slab for the Indians will be the Tainted Byrd, er, Paul.

By richbrave

March 5, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Mr. Grape:

If my stats are lined up properly, you are quite correct about Prado outhitting Lillibridge. That’s .301 for Prado and .300 for Lillibridge, if I looked them up correctly.

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

I just had a crazy thought pop in my head at 5am. What is Bobby going to call Lillibridge when he is encouraging him at the plate? William

William, I’m not going to be offended that you didn’t read the Lillibridge story.

From said story: “Infante’s not going to be able to open with us, so we need to fine someone who can play third,” Cox said. “Lilly can play third, maybe center field … “

By richbrave

March 5, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

BA:

Yours of 12:58 a.m. All that comes to mind is Poot’s line from North Dallas Forty at his inquisition, “B.A.B.A…B.A.” Don’t you also post over on the Hawks with Sekou Smith?

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

He hit better in AAA than Lillibridge did last year.Get a clue. moby grape

Not so fast, MG. If you’re talking average and on-base percentage, Prado had clear edge. If you’re talking power and speed, Lillibridge was clearly better (more than twice as many homers, and he was caught just five times in 33 stolen-base attempts; Prado was caught four times in nine attempts).

It’s also important to note, it was Prado’s seventh year of minor league ball and third at Triple A. It was Lillibridge’s third year of minor league ball and first above A-ball.

At Richmond in 2007:

Prado .316 (125-for-395) with 23 doubles, 3 triples, 4 homers, 41 RBI, .794 OPS and 5 stolen bases in 103 games.

Lillibridge .287 (92-for-321) with 14 doubles, 2 triples, 10 homers, 41 RBIs, .742 OPS and 28 stolen bases in 87 games.

By ssiscribe

March 5, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Bueno, indeed! Much obliged, DOB. Hope all is well.

—30—

By richbrave

March 5, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

LEW:

Yours of 11:23 p.m. I like you Lew. And your art. Far better than mine. I was just taken aback with your comments earlier in the evening, but that’s just me. Sorry.

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Crusading Everyman out. Gotta drive to Winter Haven.

By richbrave

March 5, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

BROTHER DAVE:

See you’re up and about early this morning. Forget my comment to Mr. Grape. I was trying to use my memory from a couple of weeks ago. Lack of oxygen to the brain. Sorry.

I asked a question yesterday which is still out there in cyber-space. If things go south this year does Teixeira have and trade value before the deadline. Just call me stupid, but inquiring minds want to know.

By William

March 5, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

DOB, I did read the Lillibridge story. What did I miss?

By Anders

March 5, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

DOB’s response regarding my Soriano question:

Anders: Sure, whatever you said. Good point.

Oh, I forgot - you only answer the slam dunk questions where you can belittle Met’s fans. Sorry guy, but questioning the timing of Soriano’s elbow issue based on his contract signing actually has some merit wether you want to admit it or not. I’m not saying there’s definetly something to it, but you being the Braves beat writer for the AJC should at least be poking at it a little bit IMO.

Buster Olney said on ESPN radio a couple of Saturday’s back “Some of Tom Glavine’s Brave teammates told me he found all the media in NY somewhat overwhelming. In Atlanta you might have one MLB writer and a guy from the AJC and that’s it. You answer a couple of questions and they leave you alone”

Those are Buster Olney’s words - not mine. Didn’t bring it up sooner because you would have accused me of more bitter, obsessive Glavine bashing. His words now seem relevant to the Soriano situation.

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 5, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Big question. Did Soriano play winter ball? If yes , we could have a real problem with his elbow. If no , maybe it’s nothing more than getting the kinks out.

lillibridge at 3B isn’t a bad idea. He could be the caddy behind Chipper that is needed.

By Marty

March 5, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Bah, it’s now time for me and my buddies to leave spring training and head back to the real world. It was nice rubbing elbows with some of my favorite Braves for the past five days. Got some nice souveniers to bring back, though — like an autographed Smoltz jersey and a beautiful autograph from Jeff on a jersey-shirt.

I was a bit relieved to see Frenchy hit that double yesterday afternoon — after batting practice on Monday, I asked Jeff for his batting gloves. Initially he declined, though of course with the big smile and tremendous courtesy he always shows:

Me: “Jeff, are those batting gloves getting kind of old?” JF7: “Well, a little, but I do have a four-game hitting streak going right now.” Me: “Well, I wouldn’t want to mess that up.” JF7: “Here you go. You’re just lucky it’s spring training, though — if this were the regular season, I would’ve kept them.”

What a class act. I told Jeff when he signed on Monday that I don’t know how he’s managed to stay so nice now that he’s become a star (and now that he’s clearly the heir apparent to the Dale Murphy/Chipper Jones fan-favorite throne), and I really meant it. It’s guys like Jeff Francoeur who make the game of baseball fun to watch and make it fun to follow a team. Go Braves!

By 22oz

March 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

I’ve been fighting this and laughing it off every time i hear an interview with Chipper, but after hearing it again this morning on xm radio, i think its time to bring it up.
We need to come up with a new description for chipper to use besides “rare commodity”. It started a couple years ago with the “I live for this” commercial, and has continued to the present whenever asked about him and Tex hitting back to back. Chipper’s my favorite player,don’t get me wrong, but he needs a new catch phrase. Maybe “something special”, or “not something you see everyday”. Sounds like a good Wurlitzer contest if you ask me!

By 22oz

March 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

I’ve been fighting this and laughing it off every time i hear an interview with Chipper, but after hearing it again this morning on xm radio, i think its time to bring it up.
We need to come up with a new description for chipper to use besides “rare commodity”. It started a couple years ago with the “I live for this” commercial, and has continued to the present whenever asked about him and Tex hitting back to back. Chipper’s my favorite player,don’t get me wrong, but he needs a new catch phrase. Maybe “something special”, or “not something you see everyday”. Sounds like a good Wurlitzer contest if you ask me!

By Jeff R

March 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Not high on the list, but will the Braves try to move Prado? Don’t see a place for him on the roster. The guy’s ready to play somewhere in the majors. His glove and bat are solid, though not spectacular. But I’d have to believe there’s a market for him.

By Steve McP

March 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Surely Lillibridge would be the caddy for Smoltz, Glavine and Frenchy. Chipper’s more of a huntin’ guy

By SNIPER-69

March 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

3 1/2 weeks before the games count. I don’t think the phillies are going to be as good as some think. The Mets and braves rotations are superior. They both have better closers (If Soriano is OK). The phillies home record will keep them in it but their road record will not be strong. The division will come down the the Mets and braves rotations and which holds up better. If Duaner Sanchez can come back the Mets bullpen may win them the division.

By stephen jones

March 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Marty:

Great story. Hopefully I get the same treatment next week when I’m at Dark Star.

Lew:

Are you doing better today?

By McFann

March 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

22oz, you are so correct! We saw Chipper being interviewed on 2/29 on ESPN. He said the exact words from the commercial! When asked about having two SH hitting back-to-back, he said, “That’s a rare commodity in this day and age.” Had to bust out laughin’ there.

All these great stories about you guys at Spring Training—it’s not fair!! Oh that I could cut these ties that bind me!! ; )

By chrisklob

March 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Marty, Frenchy appeared at a Hot Stove Banquet in Charleston back in January. I was afraid that being a major leaguer might have changed him from when I saw him in 2003 playing against the RiverDogs when he was with Rome. He is every bit as nice now as he was back then. He signed every single autograph that was asked of him, took pictures, shook hands, etc. He took a couple of minutes to have a conversation with my ten year old son who now has a new hero. Great guy all the way around.

His wife Catie was there too. I didn’t speak with her but a friend of mine did and reported that she is every bit as nice as he is. Good looking too.

By McFann

March 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Wrote Mark Bowman:

Francoeur, up to his usual Grapefruit League tricks, will take aim at some American League pitchers as the Braves meet the Indians in Winter Haven, Fla., at 1:05 p.m. ET.

What? Isn’t anybody else gonna bat? LOL!!

By Moby Grape

March 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

It’s also important to note, it was Prado’s seventh year of minor league ball and third at Triple A. It was Lillibridge’s third year of minor league ball and first above A-ball.DOB

The gist of the post really was that Prado was better than the casual insult of that poster. I said he outhit him, which has nothing to do with stolen bases. and it was Prado’s 5th season not 7th and he had one previous part-season in AAA not two.You are usually more precise than that. The post had nothing to do with which is the better overall player, though Brent’s OBP has plummeted precipitously(somewhat of an exaggeration but I like the p alliteration) as he has gotten into the higher minors. Sure hope he turns that around.

By Moby Grape

March 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Mr. Grape:

If my stats are lined up properly, you are quite correct about Prado outhitting Lillibridge. That’s .301 for Prado and .300 for Lillibridge, if I looked them up correctly.richbrave

Mr. richbrave perhaps you should practice looking up stats. Prado hit .316 second in the league I believe, Brent hit .287. If you’re gonna be snarky you probably ought to be at least close to correct. Just my opinion, mind you.

By Gil in Mechanicsville

March 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

I don’t get it…. What is it about Lillibridge that some of you don’t get? A scrappy player with a great arm, good range, athletic ability, pop in his bat, speed and can play about any position you put him at. I like Prado but he is not as good as Lillibridge, period. No, he is not some 6’4” 220 power hitter but when I last checked, you don’t get extra points for hitting balls 100 feet beyond the fence.

By Moby Grape

March 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

excuse me richbrave? you are apologizing to Dave for being snarky to me? Way cool dude. But hey I forgive you, ;-)

By richbrave

March 5, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Mr. GRAPE:

Stats suck in my humble opinion. If you missed it I apologized to you in my post to Dave. My bad. This brain surgery I’m scheduled for had better get here soon.

By Marty

March 5, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

chrisklob, the first time I met Jeff Francoeur was during Spring Training 2005, before his first call-up to the majors, and before anyone knew that his first call-up would be during 2005. (Back then, as you may recall, he was projected to make his first appearance at the major-league level sometime in 2006.) As far as I can tell, the only thing that’s changed about him since that time is that he’s busier. He really is amazing.

On another note, for the first time in 4 spring training trips, I got Eddie Perez’s autograph. Not high on the “star” list, but still a bit tough to get and a classic Brave.

About to hit the road, and then expecting to be slammed at work for awhile. Hope everyone is as excited about our team as I am, and hope that everyone who made it/will be making it down to Spring Training this year has a great time.

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Arrived safely here in lovely Winter Haven, as fine a place to retire as you could imagine.

But seriously, I do like coming to this ballpark, which is old-school like the Braves’ former home in West Palm. And since they finally finished the construction on highway 27, it’s an easy drive from I-4 to here.

Plus, the area immediately around the renovated Cypress Gardens theme park is like a snapshot taken in the 1960s or ’70s. Totally kitschy and well-preserved old Florida, which is way cool.

By David-ATL14

March 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Prado is a middle infielder that’s not capable of playing SS. That kills most of his value.

Not able to add either speed or power off the bench. A bad combination for a player seeking a spot on a 5 man bench.

Lillibridge beats him in nearly every aspect to the PTB(Cox, Wren) that will be making out the roster.

His minor league numbers quoted ad nauseaum by MG can not help him when the roster decisions are made. I suspect Prado’s numbers mean very little to Cox and are largely overshadowed by not being able to play SS.

Not a huge market for the Middle Infielder with neither power or speed and lacking in the defensive dexterity to play SS.

Lethal combo in most cases.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

RichBrave-That post was not directed towards you at all, but to Caveman. I have no problem at all with you-never have. We’ve disagreed upon occasion, as I have with many others from time to time-even friends - but that is no problem, at least to me.

Sorry you were taken aback by any comments I made, but again, they weren’t directed at you. I can’t please everyone at all times and never seek to do so.

If I mistook others comments about me for respect and I was incorrect, I suppose I will just have to get over it. It never has been about me, in my mind despite what some think, but about the blog. Thought I’d made that clear and the reasons for it, but again, I guess I can’t be all things to all people. Apparently mentioning the reason I care for the blog so much was taken as a cry for sympathy. Whatever. Believe me, I need no one’s sympathy. I’m doing just fine.

Stephen Jones-I always was doing fine. Just because I sometimes get into it with Mets fans or others who obviously don’t see me as a descent, intelligent person or as somewhat (or completely) self righteous, doesn’t mean that I am flying into some kind of uncontrollable rage. Believe me, the grief I sometimes get doesn’t boost my blood pressure in the least. If it bothered me as much as it seems to bother the Trolls, I would leave the blog never to return. I’m still here, aren’t I? I have no intentions of leaving, either, nor will I discontinue awarding art to those I feel deserving of it. Nor will I fail to comment when I disagree with others or feel that I’m being targeted by someone for ridicule.

If you’ll notice, I have always posted as myself and have never been shy giving out personal information-at least 50 people on this blog could contact me personally within seconds should they desire (as could I contact them)-the rest could find me quickly if they wanted. Those that instigated the ongoing attacks on me yesterday never reveal who they really are, but always hide behind fiction and masks. Make of that what you will.

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Walked in with Pete Van Wieren, who also digs this place for same reason. Pete got stopped by some fans asking for autograph. Needless to say, I did not….

William, what part of that Cox calling Lillibridge “Lilly” are you missing? It’s right there in the quote. I was just pointing out to you that, yes, he calls him Lilly.

Moby Grape, so does hitting have anything to do with power? Or is it strictly average and OBP with you? if so, that’s cool. just checking how you judge it.

oh, and you wrote: “I said he outhit him, which has nothing to do with stolen bases. and it was Prado’s 5th season not 7th and he had one previous part-season in AAA not two.You are usually more precise than that.”

really? Ok, Prado played 61 games in the Dominican Summer League in ‘01, 59 games in the DSL in ‘02, 59 games in the Gulf Coast League in ‘03, and full-season leagues in ‘04, ‘05, ‘06 and ‘07.

Lillibridge played 42 games at Williamsport in ‘05, then full seasons in A ball in ‘06 and Double A/Triple A in ‘07.

So how do you figure it was Prado’s fifth year of pro ball? You count three years of rookie ball (they’re paid there, you know) as one year?

The ONLY thing you’re right about was my mistake with it being his third year at Richmond. It was his second, you’re correct. It was his third year above A-ball (Lillibridge’s first), and also Prado’s second year with more than 20 games played in the MAJORS.

Their professional experience is not even comparable. Prado has more than twice as many at-bats (2,411) in professional baseball as Lillibridge (1,169).

By James

March 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

“But if I’m not here, then I’ll go and have a ridiculous [big statistics] year in Triple-A.”

COME ON DOB! Tell us what he really said! Big statistics year? How about big ol’ year? Or big %$#%@*! year? I’m thinking it’s the latter…

By stephen jones

March 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Lew:

I agree. You never let anyone bother you here and have done a fine job of putting them into their place.

DOB:

the Winter Park field was ok when I went 2 years ago. I enjoyed hanging in the picnic area behind the fence. Just my luck a number of hotties came and sat at the table in front of me obstructing,..er improving my view. Maybe they were players wives? Do they show at those gigs?

By Lew

March 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

RichBrave-One final thing and then the subject is closed-at least unless someone else brings it back up. You do realize that the 11:23 post was pure unadulterated sarcasm? Do you really think I give a damn whether I’m universally loved and adored? Or, for that matter, whether any particular person likes my artwork? Not likely, I assure you. Never had a Wurlitzer returned, though.

By SNIPER-69

March 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Lew, do you any Mets art in your collection?

By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)

March 5, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

I love the response from Bobby Cox when asked about his reaction to Johan Santana joining the Mets.

Cox said : We got two new pitchers , they got one.

Those two pitchers : Glavine and Hampton.

By GSU-Lee

March 5, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

DOB, do you think having Lillibridge up as a utility man would only be until Infante got healthy? Or do you think if he breaks camp with the big boys he will be here for a while? Either way, he’s gotta be the first option if/when chipper, Yunel or Kotsay/Diaz gets hurt. By the way, how’s Schafer doing?

By Anders

March 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

LEW From your 10:17 post

Just because I sometimes get into it with Mets fans or others who obviously don’t see me as a descent,

Let me go on record and say as a Met fan and say I absolutely see you as a descent.

Just kidding with you Lew. I couldn’t resist the irony in that small spelling error. It’s all good.

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

However, there is one major difference-no matter what I thought of my Braves at any given time, I never went on another teams’ blog and made an absolute a$$ of myself like so many Mets’ fans have done here.

Damn straight, Lew.
Hey metroman, three words: CHOKE, CHOKE, CHOKE!!!

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Metroman, I realize now how idiotic you are. As a scholar in the area, I was only defending Beltran (perhaps the only met I have ever respected, though it doesn’t make me less of a Brave) in the speech factor, I wasn’t talking about accents, but if you want to change the subject and talk about that, that’s fine with me.

Yeah, I’ve heard Chipper on the radio, nothing weird there.

Oh, have you heard Pedro speak? Dude sounds like a 4-year-old. Have you heard ‘Hell Duque’? Pitiful stuff there too, if you ask me…

And don’t get me started on Oliver Perez…

Now, I’m not saying they should be more ‘vocal’, I’m just saying: hey, if you can’t speak right, don’t speak at all.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Haren, Webb, healthy RJ. Does that spells division champions? It might, but i dont think RJ will be healthy whole year. He has not been a factor for any team for a long time.

By James

March 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Anders, do you not have a job or something? You spend entirely too much time on DOB’s blog, don’t you have enough to worry about with all those injuries the Mets are battling through?

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

GSU-Lee Schafer is doing very good.

Im not sure if Lillibridge is ready, but he will get some playing time in 2008. I dont think he will start the season on the roster. Prado will beat him because he looks a little better with the glove. Nevertheless, Lilli will eventually will steal the spot from him. Anderson and Lilli in the lineup are what the braves need….speed.

Im pretty sure that if braves knew how Anderson and Schafer were going to perform in spring, they would have not get Kotsay. There is no need for him, plus he is blocking guys that are ready.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

After the 50-pitch workout, Martinez literally hopped off the mound to share fist-bumps with manager Willie Randolph, pitching coach Rick Peterson, a couple of teammates and owner Fred Wilpon. The excitement among the men was palpable. A few minutes later, leaning on Wilpon’s golf cart, Martinez talked animatedly with the owner about how he was feeling, the pitches he was working on and what he had left to accomplish this spring.

**complete article

By AdirondackDave

March 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Lew — Looks to me like Lillibridge is going to make the team so we need a nickname. How about a Wurlitzer contest? Ever since Druw I’ve like going with the last part of the name but ‘bridge somehow doesn’t quite make it. Bridget… Nah, probably get a punch in the nose.

By Anders

March 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

James

No and no.

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

What I said about 3B Jose Oliva. In 1994, he was 23, and in 19 games (59 at bats) he hit 6 homers, 11 rbi, 17 hits, 9 runs, 5 doubles, 7 walks, .288 BA, .364 OBP, .678 SLG, 40 total bases. In 93’, 94’, 96’ minors he hit these home runs respectively: 21, 24, 31. RBIS: 65, 64, 86. SLG: .466, .493, .499, OBP .295, .301, .300. OPS: .761, .794, .799. In 94’ he was traded by the Rangers to the Braves for Charlie Leibrandt, and Pat Gomez. He was that good, even though he was traded away in 95’ to the Cards for Anton French. He was also named 1994 Topps All-Star Rookie Third-Baseman. Here is the complete 1994 Topps All-Star Rookie Team: Javy López, C, Atlanta Braves Bob Hamelin, 1B, Kansas City Royals John Patterson, 2B, San Francisco Giants Jose Oliva, 3B, Atlanta Braves Chris Gomez, SS, Detroit Tigers Ryan Klesko, OF, Atlanta Braves Raúl Mondesí, OF, Los Angeles Dodgers Manny Ramírez, OF, Cleveland Indians Joey Hamilton, RHP, San Diego Padres Brian Anderson, LHP, California Angels Yep, those were the days. Olivo couldn’t keep it up in 95, unfortunately so the Braves traded him away. But he was magnificent in 94. You may not remember him, but this young man was, in my opinion, one of the most natural third-basemen I had ever seen (defensively). He was Chipper Jones’ backup, but man, could he play! I was thinking at the time: wow, Chipper sure better work hard to win his position back, because Oliva could hit too! I know this may sound silly, but since I learned he died in an accident, I still regret his death, I still think about what the Braves could have been with this man as a backup. All those games Chipper didn’t play because of injuries, this man could really replace him. I long for the day the Braves will find their next ‘Jose Oliva’, a man who could really ‘fill in’ for Chipper, and become that ‘substitute leader’ that Jose was at the time. …Could Lillibridge be the next Braves’ ‘Oliva’?? If not, who will it be??

By Wayne in Utah

March 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

What’s up with all these “pre” arbitration eligible guys spouting off about not making enough money???

They should talk to their union, who negotiated this contract for them.

And shut the heck up already!!

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Anders, do you not have a job or something? You spend entirely too much time on DOB’s blog, don’t you have enough to worry about with all those injuries the Mets are battling through?

Very true, James!

Yet, I think there are quite a few others besides Anders who need to find a new job as well, lol!

By TennesseePaul

March 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

DOB: Read that Renteria article and loved it. The business side of it all and Yunel have made me over look how much I’m gonna miss that guy. I don’t even work with him, but loved seeing him in the line up. It’d be awesome to see him back in Atlanta in some capacity.

Has Soriano thrown anything, side session or not this season? I don’t see him in any of the game logs, and reading the articles it seems he has not thrown due to a “stomach sickness” of some sort. Just curious then how his elbow pain could be considered the type of pain pitchers “typically get early in spring training after not throwing much over the winter” if he hasn’t thrown due to the stomach illness.
Perhaps the pain is from the flu. I know when I caught this thing my whole body ached.

By TennesseePaul

March 5, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

AdirondackDave: I don’t know man, “Bridge” or “The Bridge” ain’t bad. Good way to shorten the name and holds more meaning… he is the bridge over the gap that is the lack of a super utility guy. Helluva lot better than “Lilly”

By 22oz

March 5, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Coach i think Cox may have been talking about Jurrjens and Glavine, although a healthy happen would seem like a new acquisition!

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

DOB:

The way I see it, that team or lineup, if you will, that the Braves went with in the 10-inning loss to the Mets was not very strong enough, in my opinion, to win against anybody. True Escobar, and KJ played, but they didn’t have anybody whom you could really say: ‘ok, with this guy in the lineup, I know they can win this game.’…except Jordan Schafer. This guy almost carried the team to a win. I know, the Mets squad didn’t look impressive either, but my point is, Schafer led our squad to an almost victory. What are the chances that the Braves let him be THE starting CF of the team? I know, Kotsay, I know. But what IF…? Imagine Hoss injured, Tex injured, Frenchy injured, MAC injured, for a game. Just imagine (could happen). Who would lead the team offensively??? Not Kotsay, Schafer. He really looks like he is ready. Wouldn’t you agree?

By McFann

March 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Great article about Edgar…Good ol’ Edgar—I hope he has a great year with Detroit. If he could retire here, that would be the best! He was so much fun to watch. That month when he was on the DL was murder! But, I suppose it’s time to move on…

By Lew

March 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Snipper-No Mets’ art at present, though Wally Backman owns one of my paintings. Does that count? Also Lenny Dykstra-absolutely the most obnoxious player I’ve ever had dealings with owns one of my paintings (never did pay me for it, either). I have a Bobby Bonilla signed ball, but it is exhibited in my museum with his Pirates’ baseball card.

Anders-Yeah, I should have deleted the S. Oh well, you know I have blood pressure issues (sure I do) and it causes misspellings upon occasion.

By McFann

March 5, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

*magine Hoss injured, Tex injured, Frenchy injured, MAC injured, for a game. * Fan-heart

If all that happened, the Braves would need David Wright to cover all those positions.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Adirondack Dave-I kind of like DOB’s nickname for him L’il Bridge. I don’t think that one can be improved upon. He really does only look to be 14 or so (Lilly that is, NOT DOB). He may have trouble getting in the players’ entrance at away games, he looks so young. LIlly is exactly what I would have expected from Bobby Cox.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

22oz — I was just thinking the same thing as you, that Cox was referring to Glavine and Jurrjens, not Glavine and Hampton. Reading the article on braves.com, it sounds like Cox didn’t specify which two pitchers he was referring to. DOB — do you know for sure?

By Anders

March 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Look at McFann jumping on the David Wright sarcasm train.

Damn- Never thought I’d see that from our favorite little scout.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

What about SMURF???

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

TennPaul, it was Carroll who wrote that fine article on my man Edgar. And yes, he will be missed.

OK, gonna crank out a new blog, should be up by gametime.

By Workinlkeadawg

March 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

ORLANDOFAN-The best chance of catching Braves baseball after ST is MLB.oom so I’ve heard as far as Central Fl goes. Heard or know antthing diff? DOB- Winter Haven and all of central Fl is an aberation. All you have to do is watch the local news. N. Georgia seems a much better if not safer place to hang it up.

By Daybed Wagmoe

March 5, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

DOB — any idea on when we might see Dan Smith in Atlanta? I know that above you said that he’s not being considered this year, but I’m just wondering. I looked at his minor league stats and he looks very good (21-13 in 135 games (33 starts), 328.1 IP, 159 BB, 355 strikeouts, 2.96 ERA and 1.26 WHIP).

By McFann

March 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Anders. Really I am.

; )

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

McFann

I would resign being a Braves fan if that happened. That’s why I’m happy we don’t really need David Wright.

But the day I resign being a Braves fan will be the day we trade Smoltz and Hoss on the same day, so I don’t see it near.

Meanwhile, 18 YEARS AS A BRAVE FAN AND COUNTING!!!!

By fastasballs

March 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Is it just me or does the wind seem to blow 30mph every damn day around here. We’re not even in a windy area, this is crazy. No golf, no motorcycle riding…. what the hell is a guy suppose to do? I guess I could get some work done, lol.

Everyone else ready for opening day? I’m going to try and make to DC since I am close for the opener. A buddy of mine has a spare ticket so I might take him up on it if I can get away.

There’s so much to look forward to this year. Finally seeing Hampton pitch, Glavine & Javy back in a Braves’ uni, Tex for a full season & Chipper too……..well, ah…maybe 130 games, Escobar all season & a bunch of youngsters that are talented & ready for the show. I’m still going to miss Andruw patrolling center, but won’t miss his rally killing AB’s.

By Hammy the Brave

March 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Overlord,

I have to disagree with you about both things in your last post. First off, I believe Lilly will win a bench job over Prado, because he could supposedly play CF and can play SS, both of which Prado can’t(with Infante on the DL). Like you mentioned, he also has speed Prado doesn’t have- in short, he has the versatility you need on a short 5 man bench. What exactly do you think Prado has as advantages over Lilly?

Also, are you another hater on Kotsay, and why? Don’t you see the Bravos don’t want to rush Schaefer(no games at all above A ball- Why do so many here want to rush him, when there’s no need to now?)Who is he blocking- many baseball people see Anderson as only a 4th OF type, and again Schaefer doesn’t need to be rushed. Remember, R. Furcal is the exception to the rule of how rare it is to come up from A ball to the majors, and he started as a backup. Let’s not forget Schaefer needs to really work on his OBP(too many K’s not enough W’s) and his SB %’s are poor. Do you really want to have an unpolished player rushed to the majors, just to save some money? Also, your’re forgetting how many young 2-3 yr players(or less) are in the starting lineup(McCann, Johnson, Escobar, and Francouer, Diaz)and I firmly believe the Bravos wanted to get an experienced player in CF(you need to have a mix of youth and experience-not have 3/4 of your lineup be that young, plus he’s replacing the pressure of Andrew).

Just preaching some patience for player development,

Hammy the Brave

By ipp

March 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

22oz:

A healthy happen?

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

No, but seriously. If we get rid of Frenchy and Mac, and Hudson I’ll never forgive Frank Wren. It hurt when we got rid of Crime Dog. It hurt more when we got rid of Brett Boone. It hurt even more getting rid of Mike Schmidt. Hurt even more when we got rid of Glavine and Mad Dog. It even hurt when we got rid of Shef. And somehow the Renteria trade doesn’t sting so much, don’t know why. But it really hurt to let Andruw walk away.

But losing Frenchy really is going to get me p**.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Fan-Coeur-I wouldn’t resign being a Braves’ fan under those circumstances, but I would go into mourning.

By Fan-coeur (means Fan-heart)

March 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

We’ll see, Hammy. Schafer is putting up some really impressive numbers in Spring Training. When its over, you’ll see why I’m bragging so much about him.

Um…Diaz is not a 2-3year guy. Um…Remember Furcal pretended he was 18 or 19 and he was really 25? For all I know, he could be 42 right now.

For all my money, I’d much rather have Schafer than Mark Kotsay at the Opening Day CF.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Anders- I actually thought McFann’s line was pretty good. However, I will admit that everything I’ve heard about Wright off the field suggests he is an upstanding guy who does give back to the community. That is certainly to be admired. However, I still don’t think he’s the greatest thing to play third base since-well, since Chipper.

By TennesseePaul

March 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Carroll? Impressive. I’m so used to the primo coming from DOB.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Fan-coeur-Mike Schmidt? When did we ever even have him? As for Brett Boone-Dude, the guy had a terrible season for the Braves. Why should we have kept him? Because we knew he would juice and have two good seasons?

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Hammy the Brave cant dissagre with you on your points. And no, i even like Kotsay, im excited about having him here. Maybe i have not seen Schafer enough, but that guy looks very comfortable, doesnt looks scared. Lilli does looks kind of under pressure, he is not as comfortable (my opinion), he is trying to hard. Schafer looks remember me of chipper when he got here, so relaxed, like if he belonged there no matter his age or experience.

Personally, i dont like Prado, i think his bat is very weak (not that Lilli is a slugger), but at least he has speed. I Think bobby will go will a more experienced Prado for now, you have already mentioned it, Braves are young, thats why Prado fits a little bit better. Kotsay is healthy, so you dont really need a guy that play IF and OF just yet. You can add to it that since it is early in the season, yunel wont be needing much rest. So no need for a SS. I think Prado will be given a chance in april but we might see Brent in may. Do you get my point?

By TexasBrave

March 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Hammy - well put in your 12:25. The only thing I can think that would change is whether Bobby thinks he can get “Lilly” enough at bats. No body wants this kid to sit in the majors, he still needs a little development. Unless there are injuries the only at bats he is going to get at the start of the season will be as a PH. Then perhaps later as guys need days off he can spell Chipper, Escobar and KJ.

By DAP

March 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

richbrave This brain surgery I’m scheduled for had better get here soon.

look at you! trying to drum up sympathy for your health conditions. youre as bad a lew.

“i need brain surgery…wahhhh!”

:-)

By Anders

March 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

I’m thinking Fan-Coeur actually means Perdu esprit.

By Anders

March 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

LEW

I agree. I think McFann’s line was very funny. I was just commenting how hanging with this salty crowd is impacting the innocent lamb we know as McFann.

Wright’s not even the best 3rd baseman in NY. How about that?

By BravesFanInRockies

March 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Let me echo “nice job” by CR on her Edgar story. I’d not mind a bit seeing him in a Braves uni at the end of his career — or as a coach when it’s over.

Class guy.

By MasivAtack

March 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Wow, we had Mike Schmidt, I must’ve missed that. Was he Bob Horner’s backup or something?

By 22oz

March 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Yarg! just read my last post! A healthy HAMPTON

By BravesFanInRockies

March 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Let me echo “nice job” by CR on her Edgar story. I’d not mind a bit seeing him in a Braves uni at the end of his career — or as a coach when it’s over.

Class guy.

By DAP

March 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

lil’ bridge was cute and clever, but terrible for a nickname. taking part of the guy’s name and barely changing it for a nickname isnt very imaginative.

lillibridge’s nickname needs to have something to do with how young he looks, since that is mentioned so much.

maybe we could call him “junior” or “squeak”. something like that.

i love the nicknames hoss, frenchy, heap, the bearded icon, maddog, even tex! (though the way his name sounds has alot to do with his nickname…but i think its more where he started his career)

By Workinlkeadawg

March 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

FAN-HEART- That’s what I’ve been b*** about all along. I’m not totally dissing Kotsay but if Bobby wants to diddle with his lineup I’d prefer as a fan to see him do it in CF and not LF!

By Lew

March 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

DAP-I no longer have health conditions. They are all under control, which is my point. Why would I want sympathy for something that is no longer a problem-that I was able to overcome? I feel great-better than I have in years. Usually, when I even mention them it is to offer advice to those who may experience what I went through so they can avoid it, or to show that dealing with them was much more critical than dealing with Idiots and their attacks.

By StingerSplash

March 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Very fond memories of Chain O Lakes Park. Great place to see a game. I put fifth behind Al Lang (great view, great stadium, dicey neighborhood), Jack Russell (holding back tears), Holman Stadium (Dodgertown is the pinnacle of spring training but get ready to do some open-spit roasting in the stands if you ain’t got SPF 30) and Joker Marchant Stadium.

By McFann

March 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry, that was my first and last David Wright joke. Glad y’all thought it was funny, though.

8 )

I wouldn’t resign as being a Braves fan if all those guys got hurt at once––I’d just be crushed. I would resign if Wren traded McCann, Chipper, Hudson, and Diaz to either the Mets, Yanks, or Red Sox—and that won’t happen, so uh:

2 1/2 years as a HUGE Braves fan and COUNTING!!!

By David O'Brien

March 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

NEW BLOG IS UP

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Another hit by KJ, that guy is ready for the season.

Jair looks so good…… James is in trouble, i dont see him taking the job away from JJJ.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Another dominant ininning by Jair. He looks impressive, jamming everyone. I dont think any indians has hit the ball well, except for a liner right a kotsay.

By DAP

March 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Lew i was just joking around, man.

i actually found it kind of silly that people were pointing that out about you. youve mentioned past health issues, but ive never witnessed you whining about them. its part of your life, man. share it. im a people person, and enjoy knowing things about my fellow braves bloggers here. i think those giving you a hard time about it were out of line, actually.

you know what? id like this blog to be a place that people can get sympathy, support and prayer (gasp! religion?) if they need it.

anyways, just making light of it in my previous post. not an ounce of seriousness in it.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

BTW, Santana is looking crisp, very very good.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Moises Alou flew to NY to see the Doctor. He has discomfort on one of his groins……Another player went with him in the same plane with health problems, just couldnt hear who was it.

Whats new for the mets?

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I think the mets having santana doesnt means they are nl east champions. But i can tell you, if they didnt get santana, with all their injuries and question marks…….it was an automatic 3rd place finish….. so he really means a lot.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Dodgers strike first, a double and an RBI single.

1-0 dodgers 2nd inning

By SNIPER-69

March 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Lew, Through their first three full seasons Wright has superior numbers than Chipper. HR’s 83/74 HITS 553/500 RBI’S 325/307 SB’S 71/42 SLG .533/.486 OBP .395/.372 AVG .314/.289 -Yes, Chipper was good but Mr Wright has been better.

By Lew

March 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

DAP-Never doubted it for a minute. It was others making it an issue, and not me.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

3 innings of perfect baseball by jair. We might be watching our 5th starter.

By Overlord

March 5, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

RBI single by TEX. Yunel scores (got to 2b on a single and throwing err).

1-0 braves