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DEL.ICIO.US“Salty” gets the call
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Salty’s in the house, and in the lineup.
Catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, the Braves’ No. 1-rated prospect, was recalled from Double-A Mississippi and in the lineup tonight against the Phillies, batting seventh.
He was activated after Brian McCann and backup Brayan Pena were hurt in Tuesday night’s loss to the Philadelphia Phillies. Pena was placed on the DL after being tested for post-concussion symptons Wednesday.
The Braves think McCann will only be out a few days, so they didn’t want to DL him. Bobby Cox said Salty will start tonight and possibly the series opener Friday vs. the Dodgers (Braves are off Thursday).
But he also made it clear that Salty is too young and good to sit the bench, so it sounds like he’ll return to Double-A as soon as Pena is ready, likely in the minimum 15 days.
McCann reinjured his left ring finger when he was hit by the bat on a Rod Barajas swng. He tried to stay in the game, but quickly realized he wasn’t able to catch a ball with his glove hand.
He originally hurt the finger 10 days ago during a game in New York, and McCanns said this afternoon it feels worse than it did the day after the initial injury. But it’s only a painful bruise on the fingertip, and he hopes to catch Friday.
Pena was hurt when he was hit in the head by Greg Dobbs’ follow-through swing in the ninth inning.
Saltalmacchia joins the Braves on his 22nd birthday. He was hitting .309 with seven doubles, six homers and 13 RBIs in 22 games for Double-A Mississippi, with 13 walks and 17 strikeouts.
It’s a good choice to bring him up. Bobby has never been afraid of throwing guys into the fire, and Francoeur and others have shown the move from Double-A to the majors can be made without a layover at Richmond. Salty’s got all the potential in the world, and this could be a good experience for him, to see where he is and know what he needs to keep working on.
He also reiterated today that he wants to catch, he prefers that, but whatever it takes to get to the big leagues, he won’t complain about.
Also going on the disabled list: struggling starter Mark Redman, who apparently has been pitching with an ingrown toenail on his left big toe. He’ll have outpatient surgery today or tomorrow, and Bobby Cox again said he thinks Redman has got good pitching left in him and indicated he’ll get another chance as soon as 15 days.
Braves won’t need a starter for that spot until next Tuesday (May 8), and Bobby said he hasn’t decided, that they’re considering a bunch of options. Oscar Villarreal and, yes, left-hander Dan Smith, are among those options. So might be Anthony Lerew.
By the way, Ol’ Double-A Miss was 9-for-9 in stolen base attempts last night in its 9-8 win over Mobile. Van Pople had three steals and the 235-pound Salty had one.
Redman slide continues: It has appeared Redman and Kyle Davies are in a race nobody wants to win, with neither of them pitching well enough to keep one of the final spots in the rotation.
(Oh, by the way: Villarreal’s 20 strikeouts in 13-2/3 innings ranks him third among NL relievers in strikeout rate.
Redman’s 10.62 ERA and .370 opponents’ average would each be the worst among major league starters if he had six more innings to qualify for rankings. He doesn’t have enough innings because he’s been knocked out of games too early.
In other words, he’s been too bad to be ranked as the majors’ worst.
Redman has four wins and a .345 opponents’ average in his past 17 starts, including the last 12 of his All-Star season with Kansas City (Once more, can we please rescind the archaic rule requiring All-Star representation for every team? That rule just doesn’t work with 30 teams, not unless you expand the All-Star rosters, which would then seem to dilute the honor of being an All-Star).
In his past nine starts, Redman is 2-6 with a 9.64 ERA and .375 opponents’ average, with 16 walks and 22 strikeouts in 42 innings.
Meanwhile, Davies is 1-5 with a 9.96 ERA and .352 opponents’ average in his past 10 starts, with 32 walks and 32 strikeouts in 40-2/3 innings.
Bobby Cox said today he thinks the toenail probably affected Redman, that he’s been dealing with it since early in the season. (Of course, that wouldn’t much explain his bad starts at the end of last season.)
Chipper playing like an All-Star: It’s still early, but Chipper Jones is doing everything possible to earn a spot the NL All-Star team. He last made the All-Star team in 2001, the year before he moved to the outfield to accommodate the pursuit of third baseman Vinny Castilla.
He’s been back at third since 2004, and right now Chipper is producing numbers that are All-Star worthy regardless of position.
He’s batting .317 with 18 extra-base hits including a National League-leading 10 homers, 20 RBIs, 18 walks, 16 strikeouts, a .418 OBP and .692 slugging percentage. His 1.110 OPS is second in the NL to Barry Bonds’ 1.273.
Oh, and he’s played in every game (I’d bet he’ll get a day off real soon).
He’s continued the tear he started last summer, and so far Chipper has stayed healthy, other than a quadriceps strain that he’s played through for a week or so.
In 75 games since June 25, Chipper’s hit a whopping .360 with 23 doubles, three triples, 29 homers, 71 RBIs, 69 runs, a .442 OBP and a .766 slugging percentage. During that stretch he’s totaled 15 homers and 40 RBIs in 37 home games.
And speaking of All-Star candidates, Kelly Johnson’s .482 leadoff on-base percentage in the best in the majors, and his 1.069 OPS ranks sixth overall in the National League.
It’s impossible to overstate how successful the Johnson “experiment” at second base and leadoff has been. Folks, keep in mind he missed the entire 2006 season and never played second base or hit leadoff before this year.
All-Star and Comeback Player of the Year? It’s possible. But early, still.
Braves keep slugging away: Some — including me — wondered if the Braves might have let a little too much power go from their lineup when they traded 32-homer man Adam LaRoche for reliever Mike Gonzalez in January.
We were wrong, apparently. The Braves lead the majors with 38 homers and rank second with a .462 slugging percentage. The Marlins are next with 33 homers, and Tampa Bay — Tampa Bay? — leads the AL with 32.
Chipper leads the the majors with five in the past 10 days.
The not-so-rosy numbers: The starting rotation has slipped to 11th in the NL in ERA, obviously because of the back end’s struggles.
The Braves are 9-9 since their 7-1 start, and haven’t won more than two in a row in those past 18 games.
The Braves are 3-4 at home during that stretch, including losses in two games in which they hit two homers.
WARNING: Music talk is next. If you don’t want to read it, simply skip it. There’s no more baseball talk from here until end of this post. So no need to complain about not wanting to read anything other than baseball on the Braves blog. Hit the scroll button, go to the posts below, and find something else to complain about, please. Thanks.
The Arcade Fire is en fuego: Their latest album, “Neon Bible,” is as good or better than anything else I’ve heard this year, and Arcade Fire’s concert last night at the Atlanta Civic Center was even better than the album. Terrific show, best I’ve seen since Drive-By Truckers in Detroit during World Series week.
I counted 10 people in the band last night, filling the stage and rockin’ out on everything from stand-up bass to violins, tons of guitars, and a drum that this hyper-kinetic band member carried with him into the audience at one point, climbing up a slender stairwell wall while he banged on the drum, a move that looked so precarious I feared for his safety.
But if he’d fallen, he’d have been caught by adoring fans. The place was absolutely packed, and I don’t think anyone left until the last song of the second encore was over and the houselights finally came up. What a show.
Tremendous musicians, and energy level off the charts. So cool to see a band that’s really into what they’re doing, and really wants to please the audience and not put it on cruise control. I’d guess I’ve seen 300-400 concerts in my life, and I’d probably put that one in the top 20. Really, it was that good.
Oh, and speaking of the Truckers, very good use of one of their songs on the great show The Shield this week.
Comments
By parks
May 2, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
I thought Mccann was day to day?
By Jay
May 2, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
I kinda hope Salty gets the call, I really want to see what he can do against Major league pitching. If he’s called up, would he start tonight, or would Wilson start?
By krath
May 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
If Salty does come up and shines, it could create a dilema…. or advantage depending on how you look at it. If he does well, the Detroits’ of the world may start making offers that the Braves would HAVE to listen to for Salty. That would be great in some eyes but disaster in others.
Should be interesting….. if it happens
By Joe Fan
May 2, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
I have two extra tickets to tonights Arcade Fire show in Ashville. Anyone interested?
By bergian
May 2, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
What if Salty hits? Will we want to see him back in the minors? Heck no, we will want him at 1st base, or left field! ;)
DOB, Jeff Weaver’s ERA makes Redman’s look good! 18.26 era, but I guess he doesn’t have enough innings either, eh what? HoRam actually isn’t doing too badly in Seattle.
By Adam
May 2, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
I would love to see anyone other than Redman in the rotation. He is a bullpen destroyer. Every time out he burns up half the bullpen. Braves were lucky Hudson went 8 the night before and gave most of the guys a night off. I think Lerew has the stuff to be good major league pitcher but he has one problem that is similar to Davies, he walks a lot of guys. On the other hand, I am thinking he would probably go at least 5 innings or more on most of his starts which would be an improvement over Redman. Salty has earned the call up over Miller. Salty could really generate a lot of buzz around himself if he gets called up and does well. Might really drive his trade value higher than it already is.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Scoreboard watching…. Marlins up 1-0 over Mets in first… going for the sweep in NY.
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
If Salty gets called up he will most definitely start. Maybe it would be a good move to put Pena on the DL and give McCann a few nights off while bringing Salty up. Concussions isn’t an injury to treat lightly.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
please forgive jimmy smith for re-posting this from the last blog but it is important that matthew receive medical advice in a timely manner and doc is not blogging today.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
matthew, before matthew is put on the d.l. try this ugandan remedy and see if matthew doesn’t feel better right away! a decoction of solanaceae is employed to gargle to treat a sore throat. if this does not work, perhaps gargle with cayanne pepper in warm water from a stream that has red sliders about.
By Jersey Gil
May 2, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
The braves has a good Minor league system and will address any problem within…happen in the past…Salty is a good option mac look real bad last night after he was injury…also we need to bring additional Arms from the minor to fix the 4 & 5 rotation, we don’t need to go to the free agent to resolve our problem. GO BRAVES…
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Parks, McCann could well be day-to-day and not go on DL. Salty could come up, start a few days while McCann is out, then back him up for a week to 10 days before returning to Double-A when Pena returns, if it’s Pena who goes on the DL.
By Voice Of Reason
May 2, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t you know it… I post for the first time in awhile and I choose the tail end of the last blog. As JJS would say, oh the humanity! Anyway, my random thoughts:
Too bad Redman can’t pitch to Langerhans. One of them would have to gain a little confidence, right? Ooooh, the visual is not pretty…
And, did I understand McCann to say that he was having trouble catching Redman’s cutter? The Phillies didn’t seem to have any problem with it…
JS has broken with alot of traditions since the end of last season, and shown a mild sense of urgency in the process. I, for one, won’t be surprised to see very little, if any, more patience with the Redman experiment. I think we can call it busted.
By krath
May 2, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
I’m a bit confused. It’s 1:30 on game day and it looks like one of our catchers are going on the DL. The one that isn’t must be catching tonight and whichever one it is is probably not 100%. As I said, it’s 1:30 and the call hasn’t yet been made? Or it’s just that the Braves are keeping mum on the word. Either way, it’s getting kinda late to get a backup in from Richmond or Mississippi at this late hour for tonight’s game. And like I said….. the guy catching the game isn’t 100%.
By Steve McP
May 2, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
A few comments:
Villareal is already a starter in all but name, because Redman starts the game to fill relief on the first couple of innings - the Braves are obviously trying out an experiment in game management but had not advised anyone of it!
Could Redman make a possible situational reliever against lefties while he gets his (and the managers) confidence back? I think Lefties are not doing too well against him, but can’t find the stats.
Keeping McCann on day to day to see what turns up with his hand is sensible as DL can be backdated to the first missed game, with a day off tomorrow he has at least two days rest - depends on the situation with Pena as to whether anyone gets called up immediately, much as i would like to see Salty; I suspect that, rather than disrupt his deveolpment, the probable short term move will be to call on Corky.
By Huh?
May 2, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Yo, Jersey Gil. Huh?
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
well, according to the ajc, queen elizabeth is going to the kentucky derby. journalist would like to wish the queen a good, clean race and much success.
journalist is reminded of a story told about the queen and a horse. it seems w was in london on a state visit and w and the queen were leaving buckingham palace in a horse drawn carriage. as they ambled along, the queen was pointing out sites of historical interest to w. the carriage stopped for a moment to allow w a good look at an historic site when the horse lifted tail and busted a big fart. There was no comment made. The ride resumed with some tension in the carriage.
“I’m terribly embarrassed that happened, mr. president.”
“well, ma’am, think nothing of it. in fact, until you mentioned it, i thought it was the horse.”
By Nicholas Irwin
May 2, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
DOB,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but since neither Salty nor Corky Miller are on the 40-man roster, we would have to remove someone from that roster before calling either one up. My guess is that it would be Redman, but can you confirm that? And also, do you have any idea who we would call up to replace Redman?
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
Krath, one of them’s already on the way or has arrived, I’d suspect. Just no announcement yet from Braves.
By 3trees
May 2, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
DOB - Thanks for the Arcade Fire review. Sounds and looks (RCohens pix) like a great show. Do they do anything in French? Seems like they have certain circus elements of a in their live show.
Checked out some of the Joesph Arthur stuff. He’s pretty cool. Got the “rock guy” thing happenin’. I dig the tunes and the vibe, though.
I guess that we’ve gotten WAY above our expectations out of 2nd and WAY below them at 1st and LF. 1 out of 3 ain’t bad.
Sure hope both catchers will be OK soon. Really like both players. Let’s see Salty for a week. WTH.
Anyone else notice that last year’s injury bug-a-boo seems to have followed us this year? At least Chipper’s healthy (really healthy!). Must be the shoes.
Go Braves!
By Willy Wally
May 2, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
Maybe they need to give Chipper a night off when Davies or Redman are pitching. The line drives that come off the bats of opponents when those guys are pitching are likely to hurt Chipper eventually. But then again, when those clowns are pitching, you need all the offense you can get to make up for the woeful pitching, so you can’t sit Chipper. Oh, quite the dilemma.
What I think happened to poor McCann and Pena was that they were forced to try to catch for Redman. Redman throws such puss that the catchers become impatient waiting for the ball to get to them, so they unconsciously inch up trying to get to the pitch and they end up getting clobbered in the head and knocked out as a result. Hell, even when Redman leaves the game, the catchers like Pena have fallen into such bad habits that they are still inching up and putting themselves in the danger zone. We gotta get rid of Redman - or at least let Wilson catch him - it might actually knock some sense into Wilson and remind him how to hit again. BUT whatever they do, don’t put Salty behind the plate with Redman throwing because you might end up with a brain dead prospect on your heads with him trying to catch Mark Well Fedman.
By Tommy Boy
May 2, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
My buddy has been to two Braves games this year —- both starts by Redman. How could a guy have luck that bad?
I did a list of the top 10 worst Braves over the last 20 years, and Dan Kolb was squarely at No. 1 before this year began (given the high expectations and just how crappy he really turned out to be … remember the grand “Kolb” entrance at the ballpark? Little did we know how bad he would suck). Well, Redman has supplanted Kolb. He is the worst Brave I have ever watched — hands down. Terrible.
Please provide us some relief. PLEASE!
By parks
May 2, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Thanks DOB
By Steve McP
May 2, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
One other thought on Villareal as a starter - his walks per 9 innings figure is as high as Redman’s, although his other stats are much better, so there could still be a lot of free passes to worry about if he does start.
By Jo
May 2, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Thanks, DOB, for the comments on Kelly Johnson. I agree wholeheartedly. He’s stepped up and showed a lot of heart, work ethic, and team-oriented attitude, not to mention quality talent. I was glad to see you include him in an All-Star context.
By BravesinTN
May 2, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
Who’s the third (emergency) catcher and how are Chipper’s defensive stats. I don’t understand how people don’t recongnize his good defensive play, either… DOB, I saw The Killers last week in one of the greatest venues in the counrty: The Ryman in Nashville. Great show. How do you feel about out other Nashville acts: The Pink Spiders and Will Hoge?
By Paul
May 2, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
Kudos to Bobby Cox for pulling Redman when he did. My buddies and I were shouting for it two batters before it happened. B-Mac - hope you heal up quickly!
By Willy Wally
May 2, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Too bad Redman can’t pitch to Langerhans. One of them would have to gain a little confidence, right? Ooooh, the visual is not pretty… LOL. Awesome.
Maybe that is what they need to do. Have Redman and Davies go off to a field alone with Orr, Wilson, Woodward, Langerhans, and Harris. Someone out of that Magnificent Seven will have to come out of those sessions with some confidence and productivity.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
…and said president that made that comment to the queen was Ronald Reagan—not the big-lipped buffoon from Georgia…just to be clear…
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the reports DOB. Great to have you back. Carroll does a fine job pinch blogging, but even still misses most of the Music bits. She did tip one with Wayne’s late night rhymes, then set back and knocked a solid single out there with a farm report.
Arcade Fire is a great band. Very rare these days it seems. I can’t disaggree with the sentiments. They played at the Hollywood Bowl a year or two ago. It was a marvelous show.
By krath
May 2, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Gotcha DOB
Thanks for clearing that up.
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
JJS/Lew: From the previous blog, I am humbled and honored.
By Steve-O
May 2, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
In other words, he’s been too bad to be ranked as the majors’ worst.
Its hesterical, but being a die hard Braves fan, as Im sure all of you are, its very sickening. Watching him last nite was devestating. Redman is so pathetic its unbelievable. I really hope he breaks his hand and is out for the year sometime in the next 4 days. Its sick, but I literally feel that way right now….
By Jim
May 2, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be a better idea to give Chipper a day off on Friday after the off-day and not tonight against a division rival and while he is so hot?
Tommy Boy, The reason why I would keep Kolb at the top of your list is because of the difference in expectations for him. He was brought in to be the closer. Redman was only meant to be the 5th starter, and only then after Hampton’s initial oblique injury.
By Penno
May 2, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Hey Dave
How would it effect Salty’s options and such if he got the call? Would the “clock” start?
By David-ATL14
May 2, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
The simple move would be to release Redman,call up either Salty or Miller, then take another look Friday AM. Then decide wheher either of McCann or Pena need to be DL’ed.
Davies takes Redman’s spot on Sunday.Could possibly make it til Tuesday May 8th until something has to be done. Should have a much better idea of our catcher’s health by then.
Tonight-James Thursday-off Friday-Smoltz Saturday-Hudson Sunday-Davies Monday-James
Tuesday May 8th a minor leaguer possibly Lerew could be called up to pitch then. Also puts off making a definitive decision about our catcher’s until then also.
We would still have our 4 starters and 7 people available out of the pen.
By Matthew, Dad to Walter
May 2, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
JJS:
I’m a little scared to try remedies that are unfamiliar to me, but I will give it a shot. Thanks!
BTW, “Salty” is the only minor leaguer of which I am familiar to have his own nickname. Could it be that some in the ATL have already ordained the next “Golden Boy?”
As I said on the last blog, I would suspect that this is a two-week audition for Salty. The Tigers are interested in him, we hear, and they have pitching to deal. Joel Zimaya, Nate Robertson, or Jeremy Bonderman plus Curtis Granderson for Salty and Van Pope?
By Coach
May 2, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Welcome back , O’Brien ! It would be surprising if Salty gets a call , the Braves do have a roster spot open on the 40 man , but they are not in the habit of carrying three catchers on the active roster(25 man). It would take a fairly severe concussion to put Pena on the 15 day DL , but who knows ? Have you heard if Chipper is playing tonight ? Rumor has it , he might sit due to a sore right quad. Villarreal , McBride , Cormier !!! I don’t care , anybody but Redman. The Yankee’s need a warm body on the mound , maybe they would give us a bag of balls for Mark Redman.
By ECU Grad
May 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Today is also Salty’s birthday
LINK
What’s the chance of that?
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
Well Steve-O—Redman may well feel the same way about you…he could be hoping that you sprain a wrist, and that someone else has to flip the beef patties down at the Burger Queen…
By Braves20
May 2, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
The catching dilemma breaks down to this - if the Braves feel they need offense from that position it’s Salty. If they want “D” it’s Corky - a very good defensive catcher - don’t know how many runner he threw out in spring training. Anybody would be an upgrade over what we had last year.
By Erik
May 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB,
I was at the Arcade Fire concert too- front row seats, even! They definitely have a unique energy that surpasses any other band playing music right now. The only disappointing part about it was that it was pretty obvious that everybody enjoyed the songs from the first album much more. I guess it is really hard to beat Funeral, though.
I enjoyed the concert much better than watching another Redman implosion. I got back to the car just in time to hear the last out of the game. That’s all I really needed to hear.
By The Stranger
May 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
O’B, I’ll give Arcade Fire a listen - got to be pretty damn good to make your top 20 ever concert list. I’ve worn out The Dirty South and am looking to add some more DBT to my collection. Hard for me to believe that there could be better DBT songs out there than “Carl Perkins’ Cadillac,” “The Sands of Iwo Jima,” & “The Boys From Alabama,” but I could be wrong.
By Coach
May 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Did anybody catch Amy Winehouse on Leno last night ? That is one sultry lady and can she sing or what ? She sang her {Rehab} hit.
By Chief Knockahoma
May 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
For the love of Christ and everything good in the world …
LOSE REDMAN NOW!
This guy is an absolute BUM and should have been sent packing a month ago when it was first known that the only think higher than his ERA is his waistline!
By Randy
May 2, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
I was a bit worried about the Arcade Fire playing a venue like the Civic Center, having seen them at Variety last time through Atlanta. But, wow, wow, wow. Ridiculous energy last night. The close of the set (Tunnels, Power Out, Rebellion, Keep the Car Runnin) was simply absurd. I thought a riot might break out just from a pure overload of passion. I got goosebumps just seeing them mentioned in your post (a mention I was fully expecting).
By Hunter
May 2, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB, what are the Braves saying about Lerew? For a guy who was a legit top prospect and power arm, he’s kind of fallen off the radar. He was hitting high 90’s and everyone was talking about the force he could be in the rotation or end of the bullpen just a couple years ago and now you never hear anything about him. I know he had struggles last year, but weren’t they mostly mechanical? Just curious. Thanks.
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
Bob, the journalist: Love that old Hank Williams stuff. Learned to play the guitar with Hank Williams back in the mid to late 60’s, when I was young and still impressionable. Thanks for the kudos.
By Voice Of Reason
May 2, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
It would be wise to call up a catcher now, with Redman being released. With an off day tomorrow, they could skip his spot in the rotation next time around, anyway. That would give JS and BC 8 games or so to figure out a replacement, whether it be a call-up or acquisition. Let’s face it, the most effective pitch Redman has made all year was, “Hey, Mr. Scheurholz, I can sign for less than a mill!”
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
DOB
What’s the story on this Buddy Carlyse character? His line looks pretty good at AAA. 27 Ks 5 BB, ERA under 4.
By Wayne from the Burger Queen
May 2, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
SJA: Did someone give Steve-O my job down at the Burger Queen?? Now what am I going to do?
By Patrick
May 2, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Saltalamacchia has gotten the call
He will be activated for tonight’s game and Pete Orr might be getting sent down….
Link: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=248#S=248&F=2070&T=481711
By Micah
May 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Doncha love how Arcade Fire gives props to Mr. John Kennedy Toole in the title of their new album. Arguably, Confederacy of the Dunces is the best piece of comedic literature of all time and written by a man just 32yrs old when he took his life. Neon Bible was written by Toole at the age of 16. Not the masterpiece of his more contemporary work but, nonetheless, a daring feat at age 16.
Go Braves!
By School Marm
May 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Gil from Jersey. Why can’t we be friend?
By Voice Of Reason
May 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
My apologies, David-ATL14, your post appeared as I was typing mine. Our thoughts seem to be in perfect agreement…
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
Where is that old fart Bob, journalist?…
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Last night I called it. Release Redman, bring up Saltalamacchia until we determine what needs to be done with the catchers, and then decide on the 5th spot in the rotation in a week.
Your welcome.
By Steve-O
May 2, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
The Southern Jack A*,
I rarely actually “post” anything on here but when I do its because I have had it with something. I do , however read this blog alot. I do notice that people abuse you and nobody likes you. I have a great sense of humor but your joke was something I would have used with confidence and said in 5th grade, possibly 6th. You are not funny, nobody likes you. I dont know why you hang around here, all day at that. You and Redman should go kill yourselves. You both have no use where you try to be usefull. And if you both dissapeared from the face of the planet people would care only because their lives would improve slightly.
By CM
May 2, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Since the home opener..err disaster outing for Redman I’ve been waiting for the day Bobby finally loses his patience and sends the guy packing. Sorry kid, you’re not cutting here. Yet here we are a month later still watching him throw BP to whoever’s in the other uniform. Enough already! If he needs time to get it together, then he needs to do it somewhere besides “the bigs”, seriously.
Perhaps you guys have all hashed this out already, but I don’t always keep up with this particular blog. So I appoligize if my Redman ranting is a bit tardy.
Now, about Salty. Sheez, how cool would it be to see that kid come up here to start for our injured duo? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a bit happy that Bic Mac is hurting, not at all, but how interesting is it that we all recently read about how Salty is “blocked” and his only real shot up here would be in the case of an injury. And what were the chances that BOTH of our catchers would be injured (to some degree) in the same game? I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come.
Also, if Satly did come up to the main stage, you know he’ll be prime trade material, right? That is if anyone would consider trading him, of course we do have a pretty serious starting rotation issue on our hands as well. Yikes, I don’t know. Can’t wait to see how it all goes down, but either way, Redman’s got to get! We need to be winning while the Mets are losing, and that’s all there is to it.
Tommy Boy - your buddy does have bad luck, it’ll get better though!
By Oldtimer
May 2, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
I guess you could say that Redmans stuff …”doesn’t rise to the level of worst”…
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Braves are supposed to be on ESPN tonight. If so, what a start for Saltalamacchia! Birthday and first start on ESPN.
By Jersey Gil
May 2, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Hello “School Marm”…who said we can’t be friend…i’m a friendly guy..and a longtime Atlanta braves Fan..since the 60’s…now you want to know how old i’m…just a joke….You from Atlanta?…i’m very mad with MLB to cutting the TBS game on TV, i have to buy the OnDemand Xtra inning to see My Braves on TV…shame…Go braves
By Steeledawg
May 2, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
I hope KJ can keep it up and make the All-star team, so far he deserves it. I got an email from MLB last week regrding voting for the All-Star team. I know they are trying to drum up interest, but it seemed a little early don’t you.
DOB-Arcade Fire has gotten excellent reviews from friends and many music publications that I respect, and they seem like a band I would love, but I just can’t get into them. I did just pre-order the new Wilco from iTunes, it comes with a bonus track and a video. Keep up the great blog, I look forward to it everyday!
By bravesgirl
May 2, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Tommy Boy,
I’d love to know who else is on your list of worst Braves.
By brent a.
May 2, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
I hope Salty shows up and smacks the tar out of the ball.
Also, I’ve already cast my 25 votes for Kelly Johnson to start at 2nd base for the NL at the All-Star Game.
By Kieran from Long Island
May 2, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
If Salty were called up, hit well, and then everyone got healthy… Would salty be sent back down to Mississippi or would they put him in Richmond??
By Lew
May 2, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
Krath-Wilson and Orr can catch as well, if someone can’t get up to Atlanta quick enough.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
The case for moving Redman to the ‘Pen
Check out his splits. He can get lefties out. It’s the only thing he seems capable of. His Lefty Opponent WHIP is 0.71. Lefties are putting up a .190 AVG with a .150 SLG against him. The red flag is the flyouts are not so pretty.
Now, against righties Redman is coughing up this: .488 opponents batting average with a .708 opponents slugging and a 2.66 WHIP. That’s terrible. And a good reason not to let him start.
I don’t think Redman should remain on the team, but if they don’t want to just drop him like a bad habbit, move him to the pen and let him face lefties only. Try it out in a couple of blow out games. See if he can get the lefties out consistantly or if it’s just a fluke. If he succeeds, then keep him stored away in the pen for when we have to face a random lefty and every one else is used up.
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
SJA: Some of us find you “colorful!”
When I was in the 9th grade, I mocked the principle of the local elementary school, who had lost one of his arms at the elbow in an industrial accident as a boy. I pulled my arm up my sleeve half way, and waved my sleeve around making fun of him.
The next day, I broke the same arm.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
sja, how would reagan say that to the queen when w was the one in the carriage with her? and why disparage jimmy carter when sja knows rosalynn is a blogger here? and lastly, why so grumpy? from the earlier posts it is clear to this journalist that love is in the air. *in the spring a young man’s fancy lightly turns to thoughts of love (tennyson, american league). forgive journalist for giving stinky any help but sja appears not to be sja’s self at this time. and now, matthew must not fret about the cure - but must make an effort to find the needed ingredients. milkshakes are not theraputic for throat illnesses. where is doc today? and what is a quad? and how sore is it? and must one wear boxers if the quad is sore? sore quad sounds more like an internet injury.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
I would say that Mr. Redman is a pretty good “pitchman”—he talked Schuerholz into giving him $750,000.00 for nothing in return…
Wayne—didn’t you get the memo?…you were assigned as permanent wash room attendant & parking lot policeman as of May 1…
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
If Salty did indeed get the call, arriving in Atlanta by gametime shouldn’t be a problem. Mississippi has a game tonight in Montgomery.
By dick
May 2, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Think we could take Redman, Davis, and Hampton, throw in $100,000.00 an d maybe get a 200th round draft choice? Cox needs to make a mental note, if pithcer walks two in a row, the pitcher doesn’t have it that night, pull him then, not after three walks and three runs. Redman shouldn’t have faced the third batter in the inning.
By Jersey Gil
May 2, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Hey “Scholl marm”…My point in the other Blog was none of you was saying anything about the Running Game last night(Frenchy was out in home plate and Wilson was cut between third and Home…in the TV here in philadelphia they said anything about wilson was send in or was his decision to stop…i still not clear about that play.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
What Trucker’s song did they play on The Shield?
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Kieran: I don’t think you could send down someone if they were performing, and had the kind of talent he supposedly has. I think you either find a place for him, trade him, or implement my “shared position” idea with him (only half kidding).
By jason
May 2, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Hate to be greedy, but don’t call Salty up until tomorrow. I have tickets to watch Mississippi tonight, and I really want to see him play up close. Mississippi is in Montgomery tonight, not a far drive or flight to ATL.
By AMG
May 2, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Are we sure Redman is not hurt? … can they DL him and send him to Richmand to “work things out”?… It would be a lot easier if he was hurt. Are we sure he is not hurt? I don’t like to wish injury on someone but…
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Of course, for Redman’s career, he blows no matter what. In his defense he is slightly better at getting Lefties out. But this season the 21 Lefties that have faced him have failed. So maybe to salvage this 750K, we put him deep in the pen. when he isn’t used, he can clean up down there. Fold towels. Refill the water. You know, make the conditions as comfortable for the real ball players as possible.
Career wise, May is his best month. There after it only gets worse.
By School Marm
May 2, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Jersey Gil. You asking too many question now of the School Marm. She not sure she want to divulge too much to a young buck like yourself.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Yea Steve-O I would say from the sound of your post that you have several years worth of 5th. grade education under your belt…your not posting often is a very smart move on your part—and if it makes you feel better—I don’t like you either…A$sClown!…
By jason
May 2, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Redman has to go, Wilson has to go. Woodward has to go. I am upset with Davies byt, all he needs is consistencey in throwing strikes. Send him to the bullpen; bring up Villereal. I don’t care if ATL is only paying redman 750,000, that is still to D@$! much money. He should have to pay back at least half for highway robbery.
By Wayne from the Burger Queen
May 2, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
SJA: Whew, what a relief. At least I still have a job!
By CM
May 2, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
Oh and this Craig Wilson cat? I don’t get it, truly. In my opinion, he and Redman should help each other pack.
I really wish they wouldn’t send Orr down. He and Thorman are perhaps the 2 most determined base runners we have. Love it!
Kiernan - my guess is he’d go back to MS, but anything could happen.
One good thing is that if Salty does come up, it could get some more folks out to the Ted!
By krath
May 2, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
Thanks Lew for the headsup.
I know that Wilson and Orr (or should I say…..or Orr)are emergency catchers. I would just prefer someone behind the plate that has done it on a regular basis for the last few years. Had Pena been nailed in the 8th instead of the ninth…. we would have seen one of them I suppose.
Just didn’t want indecision to put us in a position that we were going into tonight’s game with a gimpy starter and an “emergency only” backup.
DOB cleared it up by saying that the Braves had probably already made the call to get one or the other (Miller-Salty) here for tonight, even though the official word hasn’t yet been released.
By Ron
May 2, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
If Salty gets called up and hits real good at the beginning, we will have to send him back to Double A, some of yall are saying move him to 1B, or LF, I want him to play LF, but he has probably never played the Outfield in his life, maybe little league, but thats probably it. You cant learn how to play the Outfield in a few days, he would have to go back to Double A and play the Outfield for probably a month to get used to it. The same goes for 1B, you cant expect to play positions in the Major Leagues, and never played it before!!!
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 2, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
you’re right dob, the arcade fire show was intense last night. incredible energy, great set — i LOVED “power out” going straight into “rebellion” towards the end of the set, with about 30 seconds of both songs being played at the same time. it was a pure treat.
it’s cool to hear that salty might get the call-up! i hope he does. good to hear your opinion on it after all of the ribbing you gave some of us on the blog during the offseason/spring training about demanding that salty get playing time in atlanta as a 1B. (not trying to start anything, just pointing out the change.)
something’s gotta give with the rotation. the excuse that players are using about redman missing the first half of spring training cannot hold up anymore. he was an all-star last year (like the each-team-gets-a-rep rule or not), and even if he wasn’t signed to a team yet in the middle of march, i would think that he’d be preparing himself in the offseason as much as possible. it doesn’t sound like he did that, other than practicing in his basement. davies isn’t much better, but at least he kept the braves in the game against the rockies and did a fairly decent job after the second inning.
By jason
May 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Watching Reman pitch is way more sickening than watching Langerhans hit. 3-0 last night after one inning. Was it the same the last start, and the start before ? Bobby needs to give Andruw a day off to clear his mind. I know he has had a few hits, mostly luck though. He is killing mistakes middle in, but thats about it. He looked absolutely ugly swinging the bat last night.
By kdbanks
May 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
DOB-
Regarding the All Star rule requiring one rep from each team. I’m one of the few, apparently, who likes the rule. I remember watching All Star games in the 80’s and rooting for the one Brave on the team to get in the game, and then hopefully do something good. I wouldn’t watch if my team wasn’t represented.
I understand that the result is an unworthy player may make the team and a deserving player may not make the team, but I don’t care. The All Star game should be inclusive to all fans, regardless of whether or not their owner is smart enough or rich enough to have one of the league’s best players on that team.
Clearly Redman ain’t that good, and it’s silly to call him an All Star, but I bet the people in KC were glad to cheer for him and hope he got to pitch in the game last year.
KDB
By ElbravoX
May 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
DOB- Two seasons ago, you ripped me a new one for saying, here comes Salty! But my revenge has come, HERE COMES SALTY!!!
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
If Salty is getting called up, he would be put on the 40 man to do so. A DL trip would be instore for someone or some one is being traded or released. This also means Salty’s clock is ticking. This is important. He can only be called up and sent down so many times before he has to go through waivers. This is also key because, as I said last season, the Braves wouldn’t trade Salty until he has a handful of MLB at bats. They did the same with Marte. This will be interesting to see play out.
Part of me wants him up here. The other part doesn’t. I’d love him to come up as a Left Fielder. Then he could play everyday. No need for a platoon.
Bowman’s MLB Braves page still has Hampton on the 15 day DL.
DOB: If a player is moved to the 60 day, doesn’t that open a roster spot? Maybe not on the 25 man, but at least on the 40 man right?
By rammerjammer
May 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
I mentioned this toward the end of the last blog, but we can’t play the shell game with the back of the rotation much longer.
The fourth and fifth starters are scheduled to pitch May 6, 8, 11, 13 and 16. That’s giving away five games in two weeks.
Davies can pitch, I suppose, on the 6th, 11th and 16th, but SOMEONE OTHER THAN REDMAN must climb the hill the 8th and 13th.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Well Mr. know-it-all jimmy smith—I happen to know that Ronald Reagan actually did say those words to the queen while they were riding in the carriage together—check your facts before you make your pompous little remarks…A$shole!
And that big-lipped buffoon from Georgia was the worst president this country has ever had, at least until the one we have now…that enough attention for you today?…April…
By ELNKBravesFan
May 2, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
new blogger here…LONG time braves fan…
So is Salty is is coming up and gets the start…has anyone heard who is headed down or to the DL?
By A$sClown
May 2, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
What? Did someone call me?
By Michael Scharff
May 2, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
DOB, if you don’t mind, could you please reveal your age? You have a very eclectic taste in music. I’ve heard of some of the bands you enjoy, and, occasionally, you go mainstream to my generation (I’m 48) with a band or a person I’ve actually listened to.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Speaking of Queens….. The Queen of England is visiting Richmond this weekend…. So is NASCAR….. Talk about a clash of cultures. Well we ain’t got nothing if we don’t have diversity…. :-)))))
Now Mets 3-1 over fish in the bottom of the fifth. Perez thinks he is pitching against the Braves today.
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
Lunchtime here in Utah. Hope some word comes soon on or catching dilemma.
By ernesto
May 2, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
When Smoltzie or Huddy pitch you expect to win. When Chuckie’s on the bump it’s a coin flip (right now.) 4 and 5 you expect to lose.
hard to get on a good roll, when that’s the rotation. Got to be happy to have this many wins.
Sure would be more exciting to see what Salty could do up here, than watch Corky caretake the job for a few days.
By doug
May 2, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
So if Orr is the one sent down to AAA, then does little johnny junior have to go back to Miss???
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
So don’t get so high and mighty about an old joke, a very old joke, that’s been told on every president that’s been in office for years—I more so wanted to call that big-lipped buffoon from Georgia a big-lipped buffoon from Georgia…
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
TennPaul
I may be mistaken, but I think after a player has been on the 40 man roster for 3 seasons he is “out of options” and must clear waivers. If Salty is added to the 40 man, he can be back and forth to the big league club during that time.
By PTown Brave
May 2, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB, so what IS the deal w/ Salty? I have heard numerous reports that he has already arrived in Atlanta…has his name been called?! Also, why not release Redman and try Lerew at the 5-spot…he really couldn’t do any worse AND he is pitching much better this year…Lerew is already on the 40-man and releasing Redman opens that spot right up for Salty…if this was the case, who do you see going down if neither McCann nor Pena were disabled..?
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
TPaul, they can actually send the kid up and down as many times as they want, in any given year, for the first three years on the 40-man. My guess is that the braintrust figures Salty to stick on a major league roster somewhere in the next three years, anyway, therefore the starting of his options clock is moot. I’m guessin’.
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
If Redman must remain on the roster, the bullpen idea isn’t bad. That way, his playing time can be limited to facing lefties and he will cause far less physical damage to the rest of the relievers. Oscar to the rotation.
By rammerjammer
May 2, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
I don’t see any harm in bringing up Salty for a cup of coffee, but the real issue is starting pitching.
Based on stats - haven’t seen him pitch - Buddy Carlyle has been effective since spring training began. And at 29, with some major league experience, he’s less likely to have deer-in-the-headlights moments.
By Matthew, Dad to Walter
May 2, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
JJS:
Milkshakes may not be therapeutic, but they sure do soothe the symptoms!
May I suggest a blended root beer float from Sonic. I will NEVER make it a point every Friday to announce the medicinal benefits of Cherry Lime-Ade from Sonic like a certain Braves TBS sportscaster with big hair.
By tp
May 2, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
Let’s face it, at 6’ 5” and 235 pounds, I don’t think Salty has the body type to be a LF. Maybe a 1B after a year in the minors working out the kinks.
But why move the guy from the backstop - aren’t top-flight, switch-hitting catchers impossible to find? If McCann’s is ‘blocking’ him, trade him to a desperate team and fleece their farm system or active roster for pitchers and possibly a LF.
DOB - I can’t recall there ever being a switch-hitting catcher of note in the majors. Can you think of anyone?
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 2, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
oliver perez is having a great start against a team other than the braves: thru 5 innings, he’s already struck out 10, given up 2 hits, walked one, and allowed 1 run.
what’s the deal?!?!?!?!?
By We Have Mets the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
So here I sit in Montgomery, Alabama, where all season long I’m looking forward to checking out this brilliant Braves’ catching prospect, and the very day the Mississippi Braves hit town, he gets called up to Atlanta!
Guess I’ll go visit Hank Williams’ garve instead. Not much else to do here!
By Casey
May 2, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
When Mccann and Pena are healthy, can Salty not play left??
By h_charles
May 2, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Salty: Call up makes sense. It will be pitched as a “short term” move, so less pressure on Salty to be playing for his job. Pena: He has a concussion, for sure. Question is how serious. THe way head injuries are scrutized thesse days, he seems the more likely DL candidate. McCann take take a few days off, possibly available to pinch-hit while trying to keep the finger from exposure behind the plate while it heals.
Redman: He seems the likely candidate for the axe. Cox likes to keep trying to ride vet pitchers, but even he was clearly fed up with Redman last night. What is killing him as much as anything is utter lack of respect from umps, which squeezes his precarious strike zone (the last pitch he threw last night was a strike for anyone else). With that small a zone to work with and no control over the breaking ball, he is doomed. Cox can justify bad outings if there is a chance you will get a gem (see Jorge Sosa), but Redman gives no shot. From Chipper’s comments last night, you can see the team is starting to lose faith in him as well.
By JasonInMaine
May 2, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
I still say we start www.dropredman.com and have the site except donations. Maybe we can raise enough to cover his salary!! (:
Regards,
Jason
By We have Mets the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Ever heard of Ted Simmons, tp? He only hit over .300 seven times.
By Willy Wally
May 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
why the hell do the Braves have to be so darn mysterious and dramatic about everything?!?!?!? If you are calling up Salty, just let everyone know you are calling up Salty. What is the deal with that?!?!?!?!?! They act as if they are negotiating Middle East peace treaties or nuclear arms crap. It’s just freaking baseball. If you are calling the kid up, and you knew that hours ago, why the hell do you have a shroud of secrecy around it all? So darn silly.
By Drew
May 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
TP - Our own ex-Brave Johnny Estrada. Also, Todd Huntley and Damon Berryhill…there were and are quite a few actually.
By Hunter
May 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
Switch hitting catchers? How about Jason Varitek?
By Coach
May 2, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
Yes, Salty got the call. They are chatting about it on AM 680 in Atlanta and O’Brien probably knew about it before he even put this blog up.
By doug
May 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
Switch hitting catcher, Ted Simmons, a pretty good one too, hitter that is.
By OnDeckBatta10
May 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
tp.. Johnny Estrada is a switch hitting catcher
By JasonInMaine
May 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
Oliver Perez is pitching great today and has 10 Ks through 5.1 innings. I seriously didn’t think the Mets rotation would be so much better than the Braves. We HAVE to get the backend of the rotation straightened out somehow. KC, I say dust off that Rick Mahler like slow curve and hit the mound!
Regards,
Jason
By Voice Of Reason
May 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
Switch-hitting catcher of note? Johnny Estrada isn’t bad, nor is Jason Varitek or Jorge Posada. And, there was this guy named Ted Simmons… :)
By We Have Mets the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
I’ll visit Hank Williams’ grave, that is. I don’t know quite where his garve is located.
By Drummerdad
May 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
I’m a little surprised that Journalist Jim would start telling jokes about equine flatulence and indignant heads of state knowing the incendiary nature of such tales in a blog/locker room.
Was the horse wearing a diaper? Johnny Carson would want to know.
By tp
May 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
Hunter and Drew - I guess I had my head in my arss - thanks for refreshing my extremely poor memory!
Damon Berryhill - now that’s a blast from the past!
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
Good grief….. Marlins act like they have forgot what a glove is for. Must be in a hurry to leave New York. Errors are killing them. Now Mutts 6-1 over Fish. Top of 6th.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
“Well Mr. know-it-all jimmy smith—I happen to know that Ronald Reagan actually did say those words to the queen while they were riding in the carriage together—check your facts before you make your pompous little remarks…A$shole!”
jackass, happens to know reagan did say that to the queen? of course, that must have been the flatulent sja pulling the carriage.
has jimmy smith struck a nerve? a jackass nerve (where are the nerves on a jackass?)? sja has been posting as all sorts of folks the past few days trying to evade stinky/april/caveman/or nemesis of the day.
sja, that was a joke, son. a joke. the potus did not talk farts with the queen. only sja would be so coarse. if sja wants to believe ronald reagan said that, then it is okay with this journalist. just put reagan in the carriage so the joke makes sense. and as far as this journalist being a know-it-all, it is true that this journalist has a pretty good read on the jackass - most of us on the blog do. while sja is basking in attention and feeling the love all around sja on today’s blog - consider this: a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
By Billy Beane
May 2, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
For the last time Schuerholz, stop calling me, I don’t want Redman!!!
By Shaun
May 2, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Drew and Hunter,
Actually I think TP meant there aren’t many all-star caliber switch-hitting catchers.
By Willy Wally
May 2, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Maybe Salty can become a Todd Zeile type who switches from catcher to first base/third base. Zeile was a big time prospect at catcher with the Cardinals as well before he made that move. I think Joe Torre was his manager then and helped Zeile make the same transition that Torre had to make when he was playing.
Maybe Salty ends up being the first baseman and Thorman the left fielder, thereby removing the left field eyesore from our lineup. Thorman was an outfielder last year. But then it would have made more sense to hang on to Langerhans as a defensive replacement for Thorman and moved Diaz who probably has more trade value for an AL team. Oh well. Injuries happen and plans change mighty fast.
By We Have Mets the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Yep, all the Lords of Optimism like KC must really be surprised at the superior performance of the Mets’ starters. And with Pedro healing ahead of schedule, the gap is only likely to get wider come July, when Hudson likely will start to wilt in the Deep South heat.
By beachcomber
May 2, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this
Mets Enemy - Same thing happened to our family a few years ago in Richmond. Wanted to see Marte, at that time a prospect, the Braves called him up and we listened to his MLB debut on a Walkman at the Richmond Park. Fortunately, there were a few more things to do in Richmond than Montgomery. Neat city.
By Ron
May 2, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
This is so much Bullsh!t. I looked at the ESPN game tonight, and it is blacked out where I live, that is so much bullcrap, they never blackout the stupid Yankees, Red Sox games, or any other games, every single time since last year started, they have blacked out the Braves games on ESPN where I live. Can anybody explain that to me, It is just the Braves games, no matter who they face, they always show the Mets games, or whoever, but always blacks out the Braves games, so much BULLSH!T!!! DOB, or anyone explain this to me. I live in Mississippi, so it should not be the location!!!
By Coach
May 2, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
Saltalamacchia + ESPN = Showcase start - McCann = Trade.
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
I think the reason The Braves haven’t announced Salty is because they want to limit the amount of time for the scouts to look up film and reports on him. A late announcement means Garcia will pitching to Salty knowing none of his weaknesses or his strengths.
By We Have Metes the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
Shaun presumes to think for tp — now that’s arrogant!
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
I’m still counting on Mets & Braves in the NLCS.
By Carroll Rogers
May 2, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
this just in from dave, who’s on the way to the ballpark….Salty is here, he’s at the ballpark, but he has not yet been activated. So far it’s a precautionary measure and the Braves want to see how Brian McCann and Brayan Pena do in batting practice today before making a decision. More to come…
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
hey, drummerdad! this is a new blog since carroll arrived - much more genteel. as far as the horse flatulence - sja googled and found out it was a joke. sja is a little slow. spring fever. lonely heart. ron roberts no longer messing with sja. betcha sja was disappointed the queen and the president didn’t really talk farts. of course, sja just knew it was true and had to work reagan and carter into the conversation. let’s hope rosalynn isn’t blogging today or there will be some fireworks later.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Those errors are contagious… Wright has two. Marlins coming back, now 6-3 Mets.
By matt
May 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
By leaving Redman and Davies in the rotation that tells me that noone must be tearing it up down on the farm. If there isn’t someone who’s performing better than these two then we’ll be in trouble down the stretch. Bring up Salty and see what he can do. Hell, you only need him as a temp. We’ll be ok. It’ll take some time to work the kinks out in the rotation but we’ll be ok.
By OnDeckBatta10
May 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
DOB Give us something here.. Shanks is reporting Salty is in Atlanta but I don’t believe a word he says..
By Bob
May 2, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
We Have Mets the Enemy,
Yeah, Hudson is going to wilt in the Deep South heat. The guy is from the Deep South and played at Auburn, so I don’t think he is that likely to wilt.
However, Pedro has a track record late into the season and after coming back from his injury, I don’t think it would be surprising to see him get shut down at the end of the year again. Remember, the Mets are still the Mets, the team with an inferiority complex within their own city and within their own division.
By Glass Half Full
May 2, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
Ron
The game is blacked out here on ESPN also because FSN is carrying the game.
By chipdip
May 2, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
MOTORHEAD!!!!
By Robb
May 2, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
DOB-
I totally agree on Aracade Fire, they sure blew away any notions of a sophomore slump album.
What are your thoughts on the new Kings of Leon?
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Check out Tim Tucker’s article.
Well, nothing says I love you to the fans and players quite like an ownership group who labels your favorite team a “discontinued operation” and a “non-core asset”. Ah, spread the love.
I thought the slogan this year was Welcome to the Bigs. I guess I was wrong. It looks like it is come watch the Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset. That’s kind of catchy. And they wonder why playoff games are not sold out?!?!?!?!?!?
I’ll tell what though. I say we need to Discontinue Operations of Non-Core Assets like Orr, Woodward, Redman, Davies, Wilson, Aybar.
When they traded Langerhans and Betemit, did Sir John tell the media we have discontinued operation of non-core assets??!?!?!
Well, at least a got a new moniker for myself out of that for the blog.
By Kevin
May 2, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Salty to the rescue after our catchers took a pounding last night and what a way to come into the majors and catch John Smoltz on your first night — Nice start kid — The problem I see with Salty is that he wont go back to the minors like McCann did two years ago. Can Salty play left field ?? Probably better than those two schmucks that have been out there all year !!!!!!!!
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Anybody want to provide a good home to a sweet puppy?
Vick’s K-9 Kennels
By The Queen
May 2, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
It really was the horse you know. When we’re feeling a bit gassy, we use our royal cough to cover other unpleasent noises and then fan the air with our hand.
Unless there is a horse about and we have plausible deniability.
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Mike S., all these teams have all the film and scouting reports on computer for Salty anyway. Won’t take much work to do. If we all knew or suspected this morning that Salty was coming, don’t you think the Phils have already prepared all that already just in case. Delaying the announcement for that reason makes zero sense.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
A$shole jimmy smith—had you been capable of reading on down the blog you would have seen my comment in reference to that joke being told on every president of the last few years…and don’t try that condescending crap of calling me “son”…
And if you’re going to accuse me of posting under other names…you had better be ready to prove it…and don’t try ron robert’s tactic of saying “we” as if all other bloggers share your same opinions…you’re out there all alone little man…you and your many other blog names…you are a waste…and not a very smart waste at that…son!
By tp
May 2, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
Maybe Pena can show Redman exactly how he got hit in the head during batting practice. Take one for the team Red!
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
beachcomber You ask me yesterday where Mechanicsville was…. Mechanicsville is about 12 miles northeast of Richmond, VA.
By ernesto
May 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
So where does Salty hit 8th? 7th? Is Garcia a righty or lefty?
By Jersey Gil
May 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
Hey Ron..i’m with you..The ESPN have a Vendetta with the Braves…This happen to me last year…braves was playing in Washington DC, i live in Southern New Jersey we are in The Philadelphia market, the games was in TBS and also inDemand Sport pkg…and guess what…the game was block to this area….I was so Psssssssss that i call MLB, they said that in the are of 250 miles around that city and the Games is not sold out you have the posibilty that been block.This is bullcrap…i’m with you…until today i don’t have the correct answer.
By PatMcCrotch
May 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
The expectations that everyone has of Salty is very high. Which puts the pressure on him. If Salty starts…let’s just hope that Chuck James is on tonight so Salty has less to worry and take the heat about.
We all know how extra critical those ESPN jokers are of the Braves. We never get any respect from that station.
By Shaun
May 2, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
We Have Metes the Enemy,
I wasn’t presuming to think for anyone. I was just expressing what I thought he meant but maybe I was wrong.
But his point is true, aren’t too many all-star caliber, good-hitting, switch-hitting catchers. Still too early to say that about Salty but he has that kind of potential and I’m sure he’s very desirable to other teams.
Mike S,
I’m sure plenty of scouts know a lot about Salty. But maybe it is a little gamesmanship.
By Billy Beane
May 2, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
OK, Schuerholz. If you state on the record that I am the best general manager in baseball history, much smarter than you’ll ever be, AND my book is much better than yours, you’ve got a deal!
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
It’s about time for jimmy smith to make his regular “it wasn’t me posting as me” claim …again…
By rammerjammer
May 2, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Is it true that Salty arrived in a slow-moving white Ford Bronco surrounded by police cars? Where are the choppers??
By flange1
May 2, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
We have the Mets the Enemy,
I agree on the Mets rotation. It looks to me like they have a big 3 of Glavine, Maine and Perez. I will not be sold on Pedro until he pitches 5 games and can throw the ball 90 MPH. I think Hernandez is going to be hurt alot this year and Pelfry is looking a bit like Redman.
The Braves need Smoltz and Hudson to continue to pitch well, James to get more consistant, and AT LEAST one of the 2 other spots has to be at least decent.
Cormier, please get well quick!!!
By Interested Observer
May 2, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
I think the delay in activating Salty is because the Braves honestly don’t know yet whether they will need to DL McCann or Pena or send someone else down to buy them a few days. They can’t announce a transaction until they know both sides of it.
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Salty will be hitting third tonight if Chipper is hurt. That is what Bobby is prone to doing. Just you watch.
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
“bring him up a for a cup of coffee”, “call him up for a week”, “let’s just see how he does”, etc. Remember that a spot has to open on the 25-man roster, too, to accommodate a new player. Putting a player on the DL means gone for two weeks minimum, regardless of healing; release a player to make a spot for a “temporary” callup, and you gotta make yet another move when the “temporary” is over. There’s a little more to it than just making a phone call and handing the kid a uni.
BTW, what does it say to Blanco that he’s ripping it up at AAA, Langerhans gets traded, and the call goes to…Willie Harris, an infielder by profession. Further, what should that tell fans who clamor for Blanco to be called up?
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Pelfry is looking a bit like Redman
flange1, not to nitpick, but I think Pelfrey is looking a lot more like Davies - which is actually a pretty good comparison. Same age, both good minor league careers, and oddly, exactly the same e.r.a. and IP this year.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Call up jimmy smith—word is down at the correctional facility is that he’s adept at every position…
By beachcomber
May 2, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Gil - Thanks for the info. The trip I referenced above was our first stop of any length in Richmond. Truly enjoyed the city but you guys deserve a new ballpark - reminds me of our old Class A Stadium here in Clearwater since replaced by a stadium that got DOB’s seal of approval this spring.
By FLBRAVESFAN
May 2, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Re: roster spot. The problem is obvious. I cannot believe Cox would use Redman in any situation. Put Salty on the roster, dump Redman and then add a pitcher who can get someone out when the catching situation is clearer.
By Shaun
May 2, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
ncscoots,
All the Braves have to do is send Salty back down when McCann or Pena come off the DL (if that’s what’s going to happen).
Also, it says nothing to Blanco that Harris got called up except, “keep working, kid.” Harris is 28 and Blanco is 23. Harris can play more positions.
What it says to the fans is Diaz is now going to get most of the time in LF and the Braves feel Blanco isn’t quite ready yet. Also, I’m sure the Braves would rather have Blanco playing everyday in the minors instead of coming up and having to share time with Diaz at the major league level.
By We Have Mets the Enemy
May 2, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Calm yourself, Bob. I was speaking somewhat in jest about Hudson. It’s only natural to wonder, however, if this great start Hudson’s off to is simply too good to be sustained. Plus he’s a slight little fella compared to your typical major league pitcher. And he does have an 0-5 record in the postseason, so it’s only natural to fret that he might fade late, or in October, at least.
But it could just as likely be that he’s turned himself around and will be great all season and into October.
Your comments about Pedro, though, are just so much wishful thinking. All Braves fans with any sense at all fear the return of Pedro Martinez. Any MEts who might feel inferior right now are all goinna get a big-time boost when Pedro gets back.
By Noahway
May 2, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Comber, yes the Diamond stinks - there’s much talk of a new stadium but the current city administration is incompetent. That, combined with the long-pending sale of the club has slowed things up.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
I think the new park is going to happen within two years. Much politics involved but what else is new?
By flange1
May 2, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
MBATL,
You are correct! I agree on Pelfry and Davies is a better comparison, which actually make me feel worse about our chances!!! That is unless they bring up our old friend Sosa, then we will win it in a walk!
By DAP
May 2, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
this is not a new thought, but ANYONE pitching is going to be better than redman. i dont even care about bringing up a minor leaguer who isnt 100% ready, cause neither is redman. heck, hes not even 10% ready.
in complete seriousness, it makes more sense to start our long reliever (villareal) because he is going to be in the game soon anyways. its like bringing in long relief when its tied.
at this point, it would make much more sense to let our bullpen tag team the 5th spot than to let redman pitch again. he absolutly should not start for the braves even one more time.
By frolicker
May 2, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
i’m not gonna lie, i laughed hard at SJA’s last comment
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
sja, feathers ruffled? losing control of bowels again? feeling witty? shorts too tight? ears ringing? journalist has been ignoring your bleeting for many weeks now and here sja is jumping on jimmy smith’s posts and calling jimmy smith ugly names again. deja vu. well, sja, the wagon you pull seems pretty full of enemies but if you wish to match wits with this journalist - come right on. caution: sja is at a distinct disadvantage - but come on anyway. and as to calling you a condescending name, would any that sja uses on the other bloggers be considered condescending? how surprised was ol’ sja when google revealed it was a joke? “i happen to know” it was reagan that said those words to the queen. was that when you were playing queen at home? has sja got that wave down yet? hold the hand up and make little circles. chicks will dig it. of course, sja seems to already have a love interest - does april know you dress up like the queen? okay, sja, guess we’re an item again. your made the choice. journalist will make you long for stinky and april.
By joe from central ca
May 2, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
I think everyone has missed the real deal on Redman. He was pitching in his BASEMENT before getting the call from JS. I know two or three guys in their basements right now who could do what he’s doing and would probably do it for a case of Hamm’s Light and hotdogs. Come on JS, there has got to be someone whose pitching at the local school grounds we can get.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
They say jimmy is especially good at ‘catching’…
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Here’s early story I just posted for website. Now I’m going downstairs, clubhouse is opening at 3:35.
By DAVID O’BRIEN dobrien@ajc.com
The Braves’ No. 1 prospect, catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, might be set to make his major league debut.
Or not.
The slugging switch-hitter known as “Salty” is at Turner Field today, called from Class AA Mississippi in case the Braves need to bolster their bruised-and-battered catching corpst.
The team was waiting to decide to activate him after first checking out catcher Brian McCann and backup Brayan Pena during batting practice this afternoon. Both were hurt in Tuesday night’s loss to the Philadelphia Phillies.
McCann reinjured his left ring finger when he was hit by hit on a Rod Barajas backswing. He tried to stay in the game, but quickly realized he wasn’t able to catch.
He originally hurt the finger 10 days ago during a game in New York.
Pena was hurt when he was hit in the head by Greg Dobbs’ follow-through swing. Pena was dizzy late in the game and might possibly have sustained a concussion.
Saltalmacchia was called late Tuesday as a precautionary measure, and joined the Braves’ in the clubhouse today on his 22nd birthday.
He’s rebounded from a disappointing 2006 season with Mississippi and gotten off to a fast start, hitting .309 with seven doubles, six homers and 13 RBIs in 22 games, with 13 walks and 17 strikeouts.
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
I’m just saying that announcing that Salty will be activated is the same as announcing that he’s the starter for the game tonight. How many times do you hear any manager announcing the starting lineup that early.
By Bobby Cox
May 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
Reddy’s just been hit with some bad luck. Some really good pitches have just squirted past the infield or fallen in front of Andy and Jeffrey. Really, really bad luck.
He’ll go get ‘em next time!
By Colorado Dawg
May 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
DOB- Arcade Fire was the best album I had heard this year, until I picked up Robbers and Cowards from the Cold War Kids. Vocal style similar to Jack White, but better, with lyrical imagery off the charts. The album listens like a novel. Song subjects range from alcoholism, to stealing from church, to accidentally killing someone, but like all great blues, it is still somehow humorous and fun to listen to. Darkly honest and introspective without being depressing or angry. Reminds me of a certain Mr Cash. Musically its a bit raw, perhaps because the band recorded and produced it themselves.
Such a privelege to see the bravos at Coors last weekend. Even the game we lost was a thriller. I told my Rockies friends that 5 runs wouldn’t be enough against the Bravos (too bad the Rocks got 9). This is the most exciting Braves team ever!
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
word is down at the correctional facility is that he’s adept at every position…
In a Kerry/Obama kind of noncommittal manner or in a Jenna Jameson kind of way?
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
Robb, I really like the Kings of Leon. Their latest is strong, but all three (is that how many?) of their full-length records have been solid.
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Shaun, I’m afraid you missed the point on both parts of the post (I’m still trying to figure out how a discussion of AJ’s swing mechanics devolved to one of the relative merits of OPS components, but I digress…).
By Bob
May 2, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
We Have Mets,
I am plenty calm. You’re right about Hudson’s size and it indeed could be a factor.
I would never wish Pedro ill and certainly hope that he is able to pitch for the Mets. I also agree that if Pedro is fully back, he makes the Mets rotation much more formidable than it currently is and more formidable than the current Braves rotation. But the Mets must remain concerned about Pedro’s health and the durability of El Duque as well.
Both teams have real question marks with their staffs. I think it will be a race to the wire.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
Someone mention that the Met’s, Marlins, Phillies and Braves have such high run output by their offense. Three of the four got to hit against Redman or Davis. Does not seem quite fair.
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
They say jimmy is especially good at ‘catching’… Then he will not be of much use to the discontinued operations and noncore assets of Atlanta this season because although our catchers took a helluva pounding last night, we really need a pitcher more than a catcher. Maybe that’s why our pitchers are all so fat - more cushion for the pushin’.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
ncscoots and GHF: Thanks for the reminder. I knew there was a limit in there, but forgot it was on years and not trips. But even still, they could be starting the clock on him which would make him be a part of the team or traded sooner than later.
I wonder what the limit is for driving him to and fro to hangout around batting practice and not be actived? Talk about messin with a players mind.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
jumpin jimmy smith to the rescue of all bloggers!!…pathetic little sumbitch!…match wits?…you better obtain some wits first, son…
I don’t care what you like, don’t like, approve, disapprove of, think, if that’s possible with you, I don’t need your permission to blog here little man…being called little man hurts your big ol’ ego don’t it jimmy?…
You little pu$$yfart—go Google that!…
By Najeh Davenpoop
May 2, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
I don’t mind Davies being the 5th starter. I’d rather see him work the kinks out of his delivery in the big leagues with big league coaching. But he definitely doesn’t cut it as the #4. Hopefully Redman gets replaced sooner than later…
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Nice to see that “blue ink” back on the blog!
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Oh well, Mets win 6-3….. Expect a visit from the Mutts bloggers soon :{{{
By Brent
May 2, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
DOB- any news on the starting 5? Cox seemed to have very little patience with Redman (understandably) last night- does that mean he has given up on him? I agree with you that Villareal would be a much more useful starter.
By CM
May 2, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset - Are the rest of us missing something, who said Chipper was hurt??
By Braves Fan 79
May 2, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Im dissapointed to open the ajc blog and not see that redmen has been sent down yet! dont tell me cox is really willing to give ANOTHER game away?? are we trying to win the division or are we just going for the wildcard?? (because we all know the mets will win 90 or 100 games at least) I say put pena on DL, bring mccan off the bench to pitchhit. and when pena gets better send woodward down and keep salty up. Oyea bring Escobar up also…hed be a better option off the bench than woodward, or wilson, or orr. Why do the Braves have such sucky bench players??? thats what seperates us from the mets. Why does bobby cox trust carrer .240 and worse hitters so much!!???
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Waiting until Mac and Pena are okay sounds better than my recent posts.
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
TPaul, remember a guy named lou Merloni? I can’t now even remember for whom he played, but I do remember it seemed as if he were going up and down on a weekly basis one year. Know how you glance at the “Transactions” column in the paper? That dude LIVED there!
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Redman on DL, according to 680 the Fan.
By Bob, journalist
May 2, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Aren’t we in a feisty mood … some of the best posts I’ve seen in a while are at the end of the last blog … where I too, as per usual, posted after the new Blog was up … Voice of Reason, Honorable Southern, Lew, the Ugandan Journalist, Wayne, Matthew, 10 Paul and others … really good stuff.
Matthew, sorry to hear of your family illnesses and hope things turn out well for all.
A word of caution … Jimmy’s well intending Ugandan remedies have been known to have unexpected associated side effects … in fact, some affect more that just the side though most are side splitting.
laryngitis can be distressful but Mama always told me that losing my voice was one of God’s many blessings … not for me but for her.
There are those that don’t understand disappointment in Andruw (my favorite player except when he’s at the plate)… or Frenchy for that matter … some of us are disappointed when potential isn’t fully realized, regardless of the reason … but especially among the gifted when there’s no good reason for the failure to so do.
Lady MacBeth is dead! Yes, there would have been a time for such a word but it’s probably too late for Andruw … Bobby gave him the word long ago with regard to his attitude in the field and he responded well … maybe it’s Bobby that needs to give his super star the “word” now ‘cause he doesn’t seem to listen to anyone else … his father probably told him “son, you do what Mr. Cox tells you!” … but, it’s probably too late now.
If he didn’t have a problem, he wouldn’t be doing as he is … look at his swing … his effort to pull the ball; to hit it 500 feet when a bloop single will plate two runs … look at his plate coverage or rather lack thereof … the time it takes him to recover after the swing and start to first … I haven’t done a frame by frame analysis but it certainly appears that the effort he exerts and his excessively wide stance rob him of effective power … much is wasted before he enters the hitting zone and he’s not staying connected … strength is important but unless things had radically changed, the objectives are still bat speed and solid connection with ball … it’s all rather pathetic… painful to watch.
We’ve seen him successfully wait on the ball … go with the pitch … effectively hit to all fields with power and then he goes and fixes it when it ain’t broke … ego, stubbornness, piece of work … call it what you will; it’s a shame.
It doesn’t take a well informed, seasoned fan to recognize that he is highly talented but … the game is baseball, not ESPN Home Run Derby!
While not as highly publicized as Ted, the Babe was a great student of the game; pitching, hitting and the effective generation of power … he was a highly talented hitter, probably less than Ted … more so than Andruw … but the difference wasn’t just in talent.
Maybe Frenchy got his “I gotta be me” attitude from Andruw … but he seems to be adjusting his approach … and with some success too … a good, young kid … full of enthusiasm … hope he stays one … we see too many become old men before they’re 30.
David O’B … with hard hitting stuff like today’s lead, you don’t have to worry too much about Wayne or anyone else … the odds are short that you’ll win another … maybe even one that starts with “P” rather than “W”. Of course, twas Beauty that killed the Beast … or so I’ve heard … me, I thought it was machinegun fire and a 1250 foot fall … folks who can wax poetic have a definite advantage!
Here’s hoping a couple of young pitchers from within the organization get the chance to strut their stuff!
Selah
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
Hey DOB, Thought of what you want to ask Redman during his “post career interview” later tonight? Ask him if he’s ever layed sod. Pretty good need for labor down here in Central Florida.
By tp
May 2, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
DOB - ever make it to a Jeff Buckley concert? Hard to believe it’s nearly ten years since he died. What a performer.
I agree with all the bloggers who say call up even a half-decent prospect from AAA in favor of Redman. They couldn’t do any worse and may have that ‘first-time facing MLB hitters’ luck many newbie pitchers enjoy their first couple of starts.
By rammerjammer
May 2, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Makes no sense to bring a kid up from the farm JUST IN CASE. He’ll be activated, all right. As DOB alluded, they’ll wait until batting practice to decide who’s going on the DL. THEN, they’ll make the announcement.
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
Mike S., he’s too fat to lay sod. He will be winded and have a darn heart attack with that sort of manual labor.
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
680 radio’s guy at the stadium (sorry, don’t know his name), said Redman is on 15-day DL (for a toe-nail problem - no kidding!); that the Braves are almost sure to activate Salty and that he’ll play tonight; and that we’re gonna try our best not to DL either catcher - but not sure of that. And that Salty will probably be here just til we call up a pitcher to replace Redman.
This isn’t my speculation, btw, but their’s. We’ll see.
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Chipper and McCann both get a day off before the off-day, good plan. However, that scenario only requires a game-time let’s-start-Woodward-or-Wilson decision to bring the Braves perilously near knife-to-a-gunfight territory. Behind a pitcher who has gone six once this year. Yikes.
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Braves Fan 79: To be honest, the Mets bench looks pretty bad, except for Endy Chavez.
By Jimbo
May 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
DOB…Thanks for the music warning. Best thing you’ve ever done here. Now I won’t have to waste more then 2 seconds scrolling through unwanted blog filler. If you want to continue to waste spsce that’s fine, but at least give us a warning like you did today. Excellent idea. Thank you very much
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
CM,
You’re right. I’m sorry. I goofed on that one. Chipper’s not hurt beyond anything that they all go through. I just meant to say that Chipper will probably be sitting tonight from what the rumors are to give him a breather. Of course, waiting until McCann is out of the lineup to give Chipper a breather does not make a whole lot of sense to me BUT I have also not won 2000 games as an MLM manager. So, CHipper is not hurt. Probably getting a day off soon though is what I meant to say. My bad
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
Braves Fan 79, simple. Cox isn’t going to let Redman ruin a playoff run so this year won’t be that sucky. Woodward is not here to hit but to provide defensive depth (just like every other utility guy). Escobar is trade bait and his value will decrease if he cannot develop this year w/ a starting role and especially if he gets labeled as a utility player. And The Mets may have good utility players but they never use them excluding Chavez.
By JasonInMaine
May 2, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
MBATL,
What else is it saying on 680? Is it mentioning that someone may be called up in place of Redman or maybe Salty will take his roster spot, and they will decide which pitcher to bring up the next time Redman’s turn comes around?
Regards,
Jason
By Luther
May 2, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
I can’t listen to Joe Simpson get on Andruw again about swinging ugly again and pulling the ball. He had a horrible start and he is back up to his usual average with his usual power numbers(top 10 in RBIs as of yesterday) and even walking more than usual(top 10 in walks as of yesterday). He is what he is at this point. A pure power hitter, one of the best in baseball, who you better pitch very careful around.
Andruw does not have it all going right now. That only happens rarely. What is happening is that he is seeing the ball better. Where he looked shocked when he got the occasional fastball in the first few weeks, he’s now jumping on it and hitting it hard to left. I realize Andruw leaves a lot to be desired, but I think thats baseball and there are times even when you have A-Rod or Pujols on your team that you get dissatisfied because baseball players fail so often.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
sja, must be rubbed raw by now. talking tough to little jimmy smith. well, try as sja might to turn bloggers against this journalist, sja should remember jimmy smith is not the one calling everybody else a*******clown. sja doesn’t need jimmy smith’s permission to blog - only an internet connection - and surely when the phone bill comes due that will be gone. tough talking sissy that sja is, sja probably deserves a poem - but since tonight’s game is going to be so entertaining (will salty catch tonight?) this journalist will take a pass. maybe wayne will write a sja poem overnight. oh, by the way, jackass, why does sja get so vulgar when outsmarted? must be vulgar a lot, right? not the first time, huh? hear that a lot do you? familiar ground, right? bottom of the class sound right? have at it big, tough, blogger, while this journalist finds other amusements. someone please keep the sja company while jimmy smith is away. ron roberts, where are you?
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
You’re right The Discontinued…, I’m sure he couldn’t throw the sod in the right place either.
By The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset
May 2, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Merloni was a FON, Friend of Nomar
By Mets Fans
May 2, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Hey you f’in f’heads, we f’n won so you f’n suck. How’s second place f’n feel, ya f’s.
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
JasonInMaine, the guy said that in his opinion, Redman has pitched his last game here. The move to the dl apparently just buys us more time to make a more permanent decision and fill the (hopefully) short-term need at catcher.
By ernesto
May 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Mike S. If Woodward isn’t here to hit, then why does Bobby keep using him as a pinch hitter? Can’t remember him bringing in Rafeal Belliard with the bases loaded to pinch hit.
By PTown Brave
May 2, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
Direct from 680 The Fan—-
Pena and Redman go to the DL
Berry brought up shortly to replace Redman and Lerew looks to get the call-up for the start when it rolls around
AND….WAIT FOR IT…
Jarrod Saltalamacchia’s contract has been purchased and to make room, Tanyon Sturtze has been moved to the 60-day DL…
AND on his 22nd birthday, Jarrod will be in the Braves Starting Lineup!!
By me
May 2, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Mets Fan, Your still in second place dip stick. Records are the same but we have the head to head advantage. Damn retard!
By FLBRAVESFAN
May 2, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Escobar trade bait? If Escobar is traded for anything less than a Carl Crawford type, someone in the Braves front office should given a blindfold and a cigarette. This guy is a future All-Star.
By rammerjammer
May 2, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Salty for Redman? Interesting, if it’s true.
But we still need a fifth starter by May 8, so that gives Salty, what, six days in the bigs? Or more, if one of the catchers goes on the DL by then? Man, I’m getting dizzy.
Gotta give the Bravos credit for creativity.
By PTown Brave
May 2, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
WOW…true Mets fan…complete IDIOT!
And to your answer…not as good as 2nd will feel when your Mets are there by the end of the night and in October…
Keep talking Mets fan…
SCOREBOARD…SCOREBOARD…
Braves 4 - Mets 2
By ncscoots
May 2, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
Thanks, The Discontinued Operations of a Non-Core Asset…BTW, hope you don’t shorten the moiker to DONCA, that’s too close the Robert-word-which-must-not-be-spoken. LOL
By RedEyedAndBlue
May 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
If Pena and McCann are out for any length of time, it’ll be interesting to see how that effects our pitching staff. Forget the potential offensive worries with losing McCann. The injuries to these two catchers are very unfortunate during a time when some members of the staff are struggling.
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Luther, I know that Andruw is an absolute freak but he is killing himself and the team. Im sure everyone will be quick to tell me that he is killing the ball right now and that is true, but he COULD be consistent and more powerful. Just one reason why - If a batter’s knee hits the ground at any point during a swing that means his head has traveled the same distance (2 ft or so). If his eyes move 24” while trying to hit a baseball coming mid 90’s w/ movement thats pretty tough. Not saying he can’t do it but it would be much easier. One of my good friends and scout for the Twins would tell him to keep his head still and stand tall. Imagine the numbers then!
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
jjs—I have yet to be ‘outsmarted’ on this blog, and certainly never by you…’little man’…
…and if your last post was an example of your overwhelming wit—well then you better go Google just a little bit more…talk about a meltdown!!…I’m beginning to think you are stinky…or at least a generic version.
By meansonny
May 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Good 4:29 post Luther.
Not many sports (or businesses or anything for that matter) allow you to fail 6 of 10 times at the plate. Or lose 70 games a year. And still keep your job.
It leaves a lot of room for second guessing.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
WOW!, Jimbo, you are even dumber than your name makes you sound. Do you really need a warning to let you know a music discussion is likely to break out here? You are probably one of the reasons we have to have silly warning labels on everything. Are you the idiot who has to make us all read on a bottle of sleeping pills a warning that the sleeping pills might cause drowsiness?
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
ernesto, I can’t remember that situation but probably because he was the best available right handed hitter of the bench.
By stop wasting space
May 2, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Hey SJA and Jimmy, why don’t the two of you stop wasting space.
Go kiss and make up. Who’s going to bite the pillow this time?
By Mississippi
May 2, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Who is going to be sent down if salty is activated?
By doug
May 2, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
We Have Mets the Enemy, I am going to the Buscuits game tomorrow with my childs school to see the Miss Braves. There is a lot of other talent on that Miss club, don’t let that keep you away this weekend. Fireworks friday and Saturday night too. Reading what DOB wrote, if Salty doesn’t get activated today, I may still get to see him tomorrow. I would rather watch him on FSN South tonight go 4-5 with about 5rbi though. Gonna be chasing after first-graders at the game tomorrow anyways.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
DONCA, damn scoots, you got a cool mind to catch on to that and tie it into Robert. Don’t worry. I won’t shorten it. I am just going to make my point all summer long with that name. Also don’t want to give darn Robert any satisfaction now that you have mentioned it.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Redman to the DL
Redman will be placed on the DL today. He is listed as having a bruised ego and a shattered confidence. This is good news to the beleaguered Braves Nation who has single handedly caused a seasonally adjusted spike in Existing TV repairs and New TV Sales despite the fall out in the sub-prime sector. In early morning trading the Stock market saw gains of over 100 points in the telecommunications industry. However, the market receded later in the day on news that Redman would no longer be pitching every 5 days.
By pinkygonzales
May 2, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
just a note on all-star selections. I couldn’t disagree with you more as far as the rule that all teams have to have a representative at the all-star game. I grew up a Braves fan in the ’80s and that was a time in which the Braves were at the bottom of the heap, routinely sending only one slightly less-qualified all-star to the festivities. yet, i tuned in to the all-star game just to see if Gerald Perry would get into the game, and if Murph would get a hit. Taking that away from young Kansas City fans would be a shame. Now, back to the Braves.
By ernesto
May 2, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Redman’s on the DL? Since when is extreme suckitude an injury?
By JasonInMaine
May 2, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
MBATL & PTown Brave, thanks for the information! I kind of figured the Braves were doing something like! If Pena goes on the DL as well, then Salty won’t be sent down when the 5th spot in the rotation comes around. Salty will stay up and Barry will get sent down and replaced by whoever the Braves think should come up and start! At least Redman is gone!!!
Regards,
Jason
By woogidy
May 2, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
!!!MLB.COM is reporting Salty is starting tonight.!!! Just so y’all know.
By McCann Fan
May 2, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Is it true that Saltalamacchia would have the longest name in the majors?
By Mike S
May 2, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
REDMAN ON DL Yeah, Redman pulled up this blog and read you guys’ comments about him. BC and JS are now trying to rescue him from jumping off the top of Turner Field. Either that or he was hit by his big a$$ ERA.
By Patrick
May 2, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
Redman has been DLed, Lerew has been called up, as has Salty, Thorman might get the start in LF tonight, Salty might play 1st, and McCann might catch. Salty is playing tonight, so whether Bobby gives McCann the night off or not changes those positions around. Sturtze was also moved to the 60 day-DL to free up Salty’s roster spot.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
i tuned in to the all-star game just to see if Gerald Perry would get into the game, and if Murph would get a hit. Taking that away from young Kansas City fans would be a shame.
This is a valid point. However, if you are a young KC fan are you evening tuning in to see Mark Redman when he starts a regular season game? Sometimes, the team doesn’t have crap. At least in the 80’s the Braves had two time NL MVP Dale Murphy.
By Atlanta Hawks #1 Fan
May 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Redman has to go. This guy can’t save a game if his life depended upon it. Send him down to the minor leagues to get his confidence back and to work out some control issues.
I hope Chipper can stay healthy long enough to make the All Star game. Every year the injury bug strikes and misses a lot of games. Hopefully this year its different. Let’s Go Braves…
RICH GUYS TROPHY WIFE HOT GIRLS
By PTown Brave
May 2, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
No problem Jason from Maine…I feel your pain being an “out-of-market” Braves fan…I’m in IL and am getting all my info from listening to 680 AM Atlanta on the internet…I don’t know what I would’ve done before the internet…
Anyways, I’ve heard that it will most likely be Lerew when Barry goes back as he is pitching well and already on the 40-man…
But for now, we brought up Barry so we can have an extra bullpen member considering last nights long work and possibly next Sunday’s, and also just because we don’t need that 5th starter.
Gotta love having the DEEP farm system! I’m totally pumped for tonight and can’t contain my excitement…I hope these next 2 hrs go by fast!
By Robert (Justice Is The Best)
May 2, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
I’m happy that Salty is getting called up but I have to ask why would the Braves call him up and not Brandon Jones. Here is what I mean. If either McCann or Pena can stay off the DL, why not call a Corky Miller up to catch for a game or two instead of wasting an option on Salty. In my opinion Brandon Jones is needed more here right now than Salty would be since the LF situation isn’t going to go away in a day or two.
By me
May 2, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
PATRICK you are an idiot. do you not know anything about the braves organization?
By BossLady
May 2, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
Gosh, DOB you are getting two (2) breaks this week, no more Langy and they brought up Salty. Man you’re lucky cause that was all they wrote.
By me
May 2, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
Patrick, that is the dumbest thing in world. He hasn’t played 1B yet in his career why would he start at this level?
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
Why didn’t Redman go AWOL on us instead of Aybar?
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
sturtze on the 60 day would only free up Salty on the 40 day. Is Pena being DL’d to make room for Salty?
By me
May 2, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
ME sounds like great minds think alike!
By Bob, journalist
May 2, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
It may be true that I’m old but I’ve also seen and heard a lot … and that is worthy of condemnation as being boorish behavior of the first order.
I have been as critical of Redman’s performance as most … perhaps more … but he is undeserving if such tripe! He was eager to try to help and while his inability to effectively perform is disappointing, I’m sure that no one feels worse about it than Mark Redman.
There is not acceptable justification for such retoric on this Blog … regardless of the behavior of those who might incur your ire … including SJA who knows better than to so engage.
I am intelligent, good looking, hard working, God’s gift to humainty and have a great sense of humor … people I don’t like should go kill themselves!
I can’t condone any of the confrontational posts leading to the deterioration evident on this Blog but that attitude, regardless of who adopts or embraces it, is beneath contempt.
By raindawg722
May 2, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Speaking of Salty and errors, he has 5 errors already this season which by my unofficial count ties him for fifth in the league in that infamous category. (One guy has nine and a three guys, including Lillibridge, have 6). That seems like a lot for a left-I mean catcher. Is he using one of those old-fashioned catcher’s mitts or something?
By journalist little man jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
the blogger is right. precious blogging space wasted on a jackass. instead, this journalist will turn to discussion of baseball. “little man” jimmy smith likes the idea of salty starting tonight over injured ballplayers. this journalist always likes to see healthy players in the game - and prefers that those who are unhealthy not play. for instance, reitsma comes to mind from last year. now, if bobby will just please pencil in the best possible lineup and forget this platoon business this team can proceed to winning the division. “little man” jimmy smith (little man, big brain) appreciates this opportunity to blog with other bloggers in spite of being small and insignificant to others. not like the big, gruff, blogger admired by all. and now, news coming in …
By Interested Observer
May 2, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
Yes, Pena on the DL with concussion symptons.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
oh, the humanity! READ THIS:
“Redman, the lefthander whose ERA rose to 10.62 after Tuesday’s poor outing, will have surgery on his left big toe.”
toe - it’s a toe! no wonder redman pitched so poorly. explains everything. toes are not to be trifled with.
journalist will refrain from touting this toe injury until dob has time to confirm. perhaps dob will weigh in on this matter shortly.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
we have now seen what bad toes can do to a baseball player. toe health is most important to winning baseball. toes are not to be trifled with.
By Jeremy
May 2, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
I think it will be very interesting to see what happens if Salty tears it up for a week then McCann gets healthy enough to play. I have no doubt McCann would get his catcher’s job back, but what happens to Salty? Is he given a crash course at 1B and Thorman is moved to LF? Or is he traded for a guy like Rocco Baldelli? Or rather traded for a top-line starting pitcher? If Salty does well in his time with the big boys, the Braves options are endless!
By Interested Observer
May 2, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Tonight’s game will be delayed while Braves personnel finish sewing all the letters on Salty’s jersey.
By Voice of Reason
May 2, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
From the AP:
The Associated Press - ATLANTA
The Atlanta Braves called up catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia from Double-A Mississippi on Wednesday and put the top prospect in Wednesday night’s starting lineup against Philadelphia.
Saltalamacchia is needed after starter Brian McCann suffered a bruised finger and backup Brayan Pena suffered what the team called concussion symptoms on Tuesday night.
Pena was placed on the 15-day disabled list.
The Braves also placed starting pitcher Mark Redman on the 15-day disabled list with a toe injury and purchased Kevin Barry’s contract from Triple-A Richmond. Barry was 1-1 with a 5.61 ERA in 19 games, including one start, for Atlanta last season.
McCann took a hit on his left ring finger and had to leave Tuesday night’s game. McCann first injured the finger while trying to bunt 10 days ago.
Saltalamacchia, the team’s top draft pick in 2002, is hitting .309 with six homers at Mississippi.
Redman is 0-4 with a 10.62 ERA after giving up four runs in the second inning of Tuesday night’s 6-4 loss to the Phillies. Redman will have surgery to repair an ingrown toenail.
Pitcher Tanyon Sturtze was moved to the 60-day disabled list to clear a roster spot for Saltalamacchia.
Ingrown toenail? Toes are definitely not to be trifled with! I gotta give props to JS for his creativity…
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
Keep on displaying your true colors jjs, your true character is shining thru brighter than ever with each and every comment you make…I’m failing to see that grand wit that you mentioned earlier though…big man…Don’t worry, you’re still the blog ‘pet’!…
…and now I will waste no more time on that A$sHole…
By Ricardo
May 2, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
As a side note - what is story with Salty’s wife? Wasn’t she his teacher in high school or something? I know she taught there while he attended and that she is 36 (and he 22) - NOT THAT THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. Just curious. DOB did a story on this a while ago, I think.
By jch
May 2, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
I think the reason McCann was having trouble catching Redman’s splitter is becasue the Phils were hitting it to far…
By The Retarded Turnip
May 2, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Must say I nearly choked on my bloody mary when I read the report of the “toe” problem with Redman…. And all along we thought it was his pitching arm. I guess that is why you never turn your back on a proctologist. Never saw it coming….
Oh… The humanity indeed….
By jch
May 2, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Oh, that explains it…
I just read Redman will be on the DL to have surgery on his left big toe. Everybody knows you can’t pitch with a bum left big toe…
Please, please, please send him to Hampton’s doctors so we won’t have to see him pitch for the duration of his contract.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
As a side note - what is story with Salty’s wife? Wasn’t she his teacher in high school or something? I know she taught there while he attended and that she is 36 (and he 22) - NOT THAT THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. Just curious. DOB did a story on this a while ago, I think.
Well, Ricardo, maybe that’s why the Braves waited until May to call Salty up - they figured he is a May - December romance kind of fella.
By pinkygonzales
May 2, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
Tennpaul, I agree that Mark Redman is a pretty gawd-awful excuse for an all-star. yet, last year, he was the best K.C. had, and the all -star game, despite the whole home-field advantage in the WS junk, is still a game for the fans. There are 30 MLB markets, 30 fan bases, and all of them should be represented at the all-star game.
By Bob, journalist
May 2, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Esteemed Ugandan Journalist,
To weigh in on redman’s toes might be thought of as being the same as stepping on same … however, it does border on the remarkable that when our gladiators perform poorly, there is always some medical explanation … do you think it’s true all over or is it just an Atlanta thing?
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
Well, if he hurt his toe, how is he going to run? He needs to be able to run if he is ever going to lose that tonnage that is holding him back as a pitcher. I certainly hope someone on the staff of the good ole Discontinued Operations walked Redman over to a stationary bike and said don’t leave it until your toe gets better. When it gets better you are going to run like Forrest Gump. Awfully convenient it seems that a toe injury occurs in the wake of yet another horrific performance
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
little man or big man? make up your mind. this journalist has bigger fish to fry than sja (apologies to scribe). toes are in the news and jimmy smith specializes in toe journalism. no time for jackasses now.
to borrow from the ajc turtle reporter (how can the ajc afford a turtle reporter and have to rely on the a.p. for news on city hall?) … *”the toe was about the size of a small turtle, with a sharp nail black as asphalt … “
and how did redman hide this injury? shower slippers? and did this injury remove all the speed from redman’s pitches? and location? and movement? oh, the humanity! toes are not to be trifled with.
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
I just rewrote the top of the blog, in case you want to read fresher info regarding Salty, Pena, Redman, etc.
Toe health again has taken a prominent position in this corner of the blogosphere. The horror.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
When Hampton gets hurt we all scream and yell and call him Jesse James for stealing money.
When Redman gets hurt, we scream Hallelujah and tell him to take the money and run.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
I heard that Redman didn’t have a toe problem until late this afternoon when Bobby Cox called him into his office, then had Wickman to stomp on the damn thing so the Braves would have a legitimate reason to put his worthless @$$ on the DL…pretty ‘witty’ huh?…
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
journalist bob, jimmy smith is not sure how this toe injury was incurred but journalist thinks wilson and woodward may also have toe issues that need to be addressed. escobar could address one and jones could address another. bingo! better toes and better baseball. only two injuries jimmy smith can attest to (can’t confirm obliques because jimmy smith doesn’t know what an oblique is) involve mccann and pena who took a licking and the watch stopped ticking last night. here’s wishing both a speedy recovery along with a real good showing from salty. think they’ll be running on him tonight?
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
No problem, Jimbo. Glad I could save that valuable time your busy schedule.
By Ron Roberts
May 2, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
So I wanna know just how freakin’ long this toe problem’s been REALLY nagging Redman?
I dunno how I feel about Saltalamacchia getting here. On the one hand, if we need him, I hope he does well. That being said, he’d be wasted as a backup to McCann once Brian returns - which could be a matter of days or weeks, as far as we know.
Either way, it’ll be good for the kid to get a taste of the bigs.
Back to Redman… he has to go. No questions about it. Period. If he’s been hurt and not telling anybody just to grab a paycheck, that should be immediate grounds for the boot. If it’s just a recent thing, then, well, he sucks, and we don’t need him.
Oscar’s the obvious choice to replace him. I thought that in the offseason, anyhow, and said as much right here. With guys like Yates, Paranto, Colyer (he hasn’t been bad, really….), Soriano and Gonzalez down there doin’ their thing, we can afford to put Oscar in at #4 and await Kyle Davies’ getting better or Lance Cormier returning from his rehab stint.
By woogidy
May 2, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
anyone know if Monday’s game was in hd on comcast 755?
By Chop Chop
May 2, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
Gotta agree with SJA on this one. Someone stomped on that mutha.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
“Bobby Cox said today he thinks the toenail probably affected Redman, that he’s been dealing with it since early in the season …” -DOB
now, why would a team throw a player out there with known toe issues? imagine trying to throw a baseball with a sore toenail! even a finely-tuned athlete can stand only so much. and why was this toenail allowed to become ingrown? is it because bobby dews is no longer with the team to give pedicures? and when will this team hire a good toe-man? doc can probably recommend somebody if doc ever returns. the shame in all this is that there have been warnings all along that toes are not to be trifled with - yet, there the braves go trifling with toes while jumping in and out of first place. good toes pitching = first place. bad toes pitching = second place. all season. check it out.
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Let’s see…last year, our closer was “hurting” but noone knew it…already this year…Wickman and Redmann were both “hurting”..and noone knew it…SEEMS THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH HONESTY WITH THE COACH!!!! McDowell needs to be the NEXT TO GO!!!
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
“Jimbo”???…oooooh, Well there goes jjs to the corner to pout for a couple weeks…but he’ll be back around May 16th. trolling for pity and ‘acceptance’ once again…
By PTown Brave
May 2, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
DOB,
Do we have a number for Salty yet?
By Bob, journalist
May 2, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
Yes … my very first thought
By senior escobar
May 2, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
stop talkin about the braves for a minute, the ppl upstairs need to learn how to make deals to change the thrills to garner some damn bills….if iwere given an opp…i could make some moves and changes around tuner field that would have those stands packed…what ive been seeing the past few years has been pretty rediculous
By Michael from Brooklyn
May 2, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
DOB!
Didn’t we just talk about Dan Smith? I’d love to see him get a taste. Sometimes you can catch lightning in a bottle for a couple of starts from a young pitcher with great K/BB ratios.
I’m excited to see Salty! Bring it on!!
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this
oh crap. another entire summer of freaking toe babbling. good god. Thank you Redman. Not only are you terrible on the mound and kill my team but now you are going to kill the blog the whole summer with disturbing Eddie Murphy like toe fetish talk. toes ain’t to be trifled. toe journalism at his best. toes, toes, toes. toes, toes, toes. chrissakes. thank for nuttin’ Redman. this toes for you.
By Mets Fans
May 2, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
Salty? Who ‘s pitching Crunchy?
Nice team. Ya losers.
Mets win!!!! Mets win!!!!! Mets win!!!!!
By gotigers72
May 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this
Can’t believe Bobby said Redman will be put back into the starting rotation when he comes off the DL. Bobby makes a lot of excuses, and I don’t believe that a freakin’ toenail could have caused him to be so putrid. Bobby’s excuse making has nothing to do with his managerial skills by the way. Unlike some on here, I think he is a good manager that makes mistakes from time to time.
I hope Kevin Barry does better than his stint he had last year and I hope Salty lights it up enough to where he gets to stay. Sorry Brayan, but have you ever heard of Wally Pipp? [For those of you not knowing the answer to the Pipp question, he is the first baseman that had to sit out due to injury and was replaced by a guy named Lou Gehrig, who then set the major league record for consecutive games played until Cal Ripken broke it. Wally, we hardly knew ye.]
By Steve McP
May 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this
ricardo
Here’s the deal with salty’s wife [http://raindelay.typepad.com/my_weblog/salty/index.html]
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Mets are still in second chump
By Jake
May 2, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Salty’s wearing number 18.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this
proof that sja doesn’t read the blog - only incites others. scroll up and see that dob was replying to a blogger named, jimbo. was that sja doing a little provoking? now, sja promised to leave the blog - and didn’t. now says he will ignore jimmy smith - and doesn’t. won’t go away just hangs in the air like gas. well, this journalist must prepare for some more toe journalism, so, sja, amuse yourself in other ways. now, will carroll rogers do any toe journalism on this matter? dob is being reserved in his toe commentary. this journalist is hoping/expecting to find a big toe article from dob soon (big article, any toe - wait it is the big toe) - make that a big, big toe article. now, how many knew that redman had a bad toe? see what it does? all-star last year and now toes up as a pitcher (can say that, right, journalist bob?)
By Conrad
May 2, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
A Jack Ask by any other name - - -
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this
Yankee ‘strength coach’ Miller has just been fired because of all the muscle strain injuries on that team—but will anyone be fired on the Braves staff because of all these players trying to play while injured?
By Wayne in Utah
May 2, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
One more hour! It’s almost like opening day. Reminds me of a poem…….
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
Michael, yes we did just talk about Dan Smith. And one reason I was a big lukewarm about him was the response I got from one Braves official when I mentioned him the other day.
Turns out, the person thought I was talking about another Smith _ Travis Smith, perhaps? But when I brought up Dan Smith again today, the person had far better response and explained to me that he thought I was asking about someone else the other day.
Anyway, they’re high on Dan Smith. He or Villarreal could get that start. Or one of a few others, but sounded like those two might be leading candidates.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
Conrad, I gotta say you did not do such a great job raising Willis, Arnold, and Kimberly. You stole Arnold’s money. Willis turned out to be a crazy drug addict. Kimberly was a drug addict as well but now Kimberly’s dead. What was really going on in that penthouse? I always thought it was kind of creepy that you took the kids in just because their mother was your maid. Someday, we’ll get to the bottom of this Conrad. Beware Conrad, the investigation is still ongoing.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta—you might as well get used to the toe fetishist…
jjs—you’re beginning to be somewhat annoying…kind of like a pecker-gnat…still waiting on that ‘wit’…but nice try anyhow, I’ll still be here long after your stench has subsided…if you don’t like it…leave!…right, journalist bob?
By HP
May 2, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
Tonight’s starting lineup for braves 1.Johnson 2.Renteria 3.Jones,C 4.Jones,A 5.Thorman 6.Francoeur 7.Saltalamacchia 8.Harris 9.James
Go Braves!!!!!
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
Oh, and by the way, Chipper’s in the lineup tonight, to whomever was starting that rumor about him not playing.
By Ron
May 2, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
Whats up all, Let me ask yall somethin, what yall think Salty’s scorecard will look like in the game? I say he will go 2 for 4 with a homerun.
By SoundsFamiliar
May 2, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
Actually, Discontinued, the Mets and Braves are tied for first. The Mets won today. You should know your facts before you call someone a chump. It makes you look a like, well…a chump when you’re wrong.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
No, actually, Sounds Familiar, you’re wrong. You seem to forget that we beat you 4 games to 2, so we have the tie breaker and we are the ones in first. The Braves in First. Now, that sounds familiar.
By Lew
May 2, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
Discontinued Dude- Do not question Providence! Is not having Redman gone for at least two weeks not worth a bit of non toe trifling conversation? Context, Dude, context.
By Eric from MO
May 2, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
I dont want to be negative but what if Salty doesnt hit well. How much will his trade value drop? I mean he hit horrible last year.
By Lew
May 2, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Looks like another Mets fan has gone over the edge. Maybe he needs a flashlight shined on him. Must be afraid of the dark shadow cast by being beneath the Braves in the standings for so many years.
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Evening denizens…
Busy day today in the ATL for the sports minded. I had to laugh at the irony of Redman having to be placed on the DL due to an ingrown toenail. Toes are not to be… Well, you guys know the rest.
We’ll see the kid tonight crouching behind the plate. In fact, the first thing I thought of is if there would be any chance Salty playing pepper before the game tonight. All cheesy jokes aside, I’m anxious to see how well he does both behind the dish and at the plate tonight. I also hope he stays clear of Philly bats tonight as well.
One thing is sure, the DL stint for Redman has earned him extra time in a Braves uniform much to the chagrin of more than a few denizens and others following planet Braves.
First pitch in about 45 minutes. If Chuck James wants to pitch a 7 inning one hit shutout, tonight’s a perfect time to do so.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
Lew, It’s not the context I am trifling over - It is the toe text.
By Lew
May 2, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
SJA-Pecker Gnats? That’s almost as bad as ground balls. Where do you come up with these concepts?
By Chop Chop
May 2, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
DOB, it took me a long time to start listening to Van the Man’s stuff, but I’m glad I did. I don’t know what this means, but I’m listening to a lot of Van and a lot of Motorhead right now. I’m just glad I don’t have a toe problem or this would all be strange. I’m trying to imagine Lemmy singing “Madame George”. My toe’s starting to hurt.
Now I know how Redman feels…
By DonCoburleone
May 2, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
SALTY!!! Oh yeah, this is perfect for the Braves. Bring Salty up for a couple of weeks, get him 20-30AB’s and let the rest of baseball start to druel over him… I really do think this guy is going to land us a big name pitcher either at the deadline this year or in the offseason.
By SoundsFamiliar
May 2, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
Discontinued….our records at the moment are identical. We’re tied. Good luck, however, with your hypothetical tiebreaker game, which is at best 136 games away, should it even occur. Start warming Redman up now.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
10Greg, I don’t mind Redman staying with the Braves - so long as he uses his DL time to get in better shape, strengthen his arm, and work on his mechanics. I think it may be a blessing in disguise. If he comes back more finely tuned from a mechanical and fitness standpoint, I am hoping he help us later down the line as a mediocre .500 pitcher from the #5 spot in the rotation. I don’t want to give up on him. We’re not in a position to throw away $750,000. Extended ST or whatever may be the cure to get him to a point where he is useful to us and earns that money. He did miss alot of ST.
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this
Discontinued Ops…
I agree. I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if Redman can use this as a springboard to work on what needs to be done. If he comes back and can be effective in the #5 slot we haven’t flushed $750K on the experiment.
By Coach
May 2, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this
I guessed correctly that Salty would start and Pena would be put on the DL , but Redman will pitch again ? Bobby Cox , you have lost my confidence.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this
Lew—a pecker gnat is an actual living winged insect that spends most of it’s time in a swarm hovering around a …… well, use your imagination…
…and Lew—I’ve been meaning to confront you on a certain issue, which is…why on earth do you allow these A$sClowns to bait you into these drawn out, pretty much meaningless arguments concerning this and that?…you should try using that Zen ninja approach when blogging with these pecker gnats…step outside yourself…be a helluva lot easier on your health…
By HP
May 2, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this
McCann fan, Salty will have the longest last name by a player in the baseball history when he gets his first bat tonight. I just heard it on radio 640 AM.
By flange1
May 2, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this
DonC,
I really think you are correct! It makes no sense to bring Salty up right now for 15 days. If it is a day to day injury with McCann why not bring up Miller for a couple of games and then on the bench for the rest of the 15 days the n GONE.
I think this is a showcase for Salty. I feel a new starting pitcher coming…..Power righty…….SOON!!!
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this
Well, time to go actually enjoy watching a ballgame…
By Chop Chop
May 2, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this
Yeah…14 letters for Salty. I think William Van Landingham and his thirteen-letter surname comprised the longest last name in MLB history prior to Salty. He pitched for the Giants for a few years back in the ’90s.
By Mets Fans
May 2, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this
Prepare to be crushed tonight. Have fun on your trip back under 500. Have fun losing your second series in a row. Chokers.
By caveman22
May 2, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
toenail I’ve had “surgery” for an ingrown toenail and I was disabled for about a day. but 15 days is hilarious, I’m going to use that one at work and see if I can get some money from AFLAC
By Sonny
May 2, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
DOB, this is a joke right?
Also going on the disabled list: struggling starter Mark Redman, who apparently has been pitching with an ingrown toenail on his left big toe.
His little toe hurts??? My god, get this guy off our damn team. At least he’ll have more time to drink beer with his cousin, Dan Kolb.
By some guy
May 2, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this
Gah, not a good start.
By some guy
May 2, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this
Don’t even mention Kolb’s name. We don’t want to jynx our bullpen.
By DonCoburleone
May 2, 2007 7:45 PM | Link to this
LOL, Mets Fans you guys are funny. Talking smack like your team is playing us tonight; what, are you a Philly fan and a Mets fan at the same time??? I also find it funny you are on here talking trash after just losing 2 out of 3 to the Marlins… Go choke on some d!ck you loser…
By DonCoburleone
May 2, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this
Darnit, looks like James is headed for another 25+ pitches in the first inning….
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this
An inauspicious start to be sure but Chuck rallied to strike out Ryan Howard and got a fly out to end the inning.
By DonCoburleone
May 2, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this
Nice recovery James! And that my friends is the fundamental difference between a big-league pitcher and a AAAA pitcher. Tell me, what do you think happens to Davies right there with runners on first and second, nobody out and Utley, Howard, and Burrel due up next???
By DonCoburleone
May 2, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this
BTW, I think I heard someone mention it earlier, but is the game on ESPN tonight??? I am still at work and would like to know…
By some guy
May 2, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
Way to leg it out, Andruw!
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this
Yes, on ESPN
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this
Good work in the bottom of the first then moves to third on the wild pitch and scores on the fielder’s choice by AJ. And props to him for staying out of two and getting the run in.
By bruce
May 2, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this
Thorman should be starting every day, until he proves that the job is his or he appears intimidated. What a great throw to Rent.
Great first inning Chuck! Got to cool the Phillies a bit. Maybe Chuck should just not start day games.
I had ingrown big toe nail and it hurt almost as much after surgery as it did before… could barely walk… can’t imagine trying to pitch. This news changes my opinion, I was in the dump Redman category after last night til I heard this news… maybe he gets some rehab starts in Richmond now to get it together coming back from the DL… a chance to prove it or lose it.
Salty one for one on throw-outs!
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
Will anyone in the Media expose the fact that there IS AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION hiring program in place in MLB? Willie was brought in ONLY because he is an “African American” and our Braves didn’t have one on the team….Where is the outrage?
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this
Nice throw by Salty….. I am impressed
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this
Salty almost gets one to the deepest part of the park! WELCOME TO THE BIGS!!!
By Argo
May 2, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this
Hey, Jimmy Smith, it looks like a lot of us are on you when I change names like this. I am far more intalligent than you.
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966, you do realize it is no longer 1966, right? let it go man. let it go.
By Ron
May 2, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
Liked that swing from Salty, Find him a different position in Double A, LF, or 1B. This guy is gonna be awesome!!! I know that was his first at bat, but damn, that was a lasting first impression!!!
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
Big break there getting Garcia doubled off of second.
By Jeff
May 2, 2007 8:23 PM | Link to this
DOB, saw the Drive-by Truckers acoustic show in Athens Saturday night, awesome.
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this
Nice rally by Chuck James to strike out Utley. His pitch count is up though, hopefully he can get a few quick innings to compensate for that.
By RedEyedAndBlue
May 2, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this
I’ll bite, bravesfansince1966. How about hitting over .360 at Richmond, having above average defensive skills, good speed, and a fair amount of major league experience, including a stint on a World Championship team. That’s not Affirmative Action, that’s reward for hard work and playing good ball. I’m not gonna convince you to notice he’s worthy. But it’s 2007 and I’m not gonna let your b.s. comments go unanswered either. By the way he just singled.
By Brent
May 2, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this
Bravesfansince1966:
Willie Harris is the best option we have for left field. He can play. Nothing else needs to be said there. Get over yourself.
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this
Yessssss.
Sweet double by KJ and nice job by Renteria reaching on the sac attempt.
By superman
May 2, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this
chipper mvp 07
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this
Chipper grooved one to the opposite field, great job of hitting.
By JJMB
May 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
Man, I hope Chipper holds up this year. He’s a hitting machine.
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this
I’ve run out of superlatives for Kelly Johnson.That’s why I’m giving a nod to BC.I think it was the 2005 season Johnson was hitting close to single digits.Time after time day after day BC said he looked as good as anybody at the plate he let us know by his words that he sees more than most of us.That’s just one more reason why he’s Bobby Cox and we’re not.
By Ippississim
May 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
The “Braves toe curse” actually worked in our favor this time!
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
I know Langerhans wasn’t hitting and maybe never will,still Harris has allowed four bases(two doubles)in four innings that Langy would have prevented.
By Efrim
May 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
James has OVER 80 PITCHES through 4 freeking innings……
I know he is pitching well, but we need more man. More innings from this kid. HUDSON and SMOLTZ are going to die by August. We desperately need another starter……
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
So Salty told his parents they can’t match this birthday gift.This would be a good time to tell him he’s adopted. disclaimed this isn’t a true statement just a rummer somebody started ( me ).
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
Solid so far from Salty _ flied out to the CF track, throws a dude out stealing second, and works an eight-pitch walk. Good stuff. And hustling his tail off.
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
to the idiots above… this has NOTHING to do with the fact that he is a good ball player but everything to do with the fact that he was brought to the Braves for one reason……apparently you are too ignorant to get it…
By mr baseball
May 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
DOB: In honor of our resident cracker (bravesfansince1866), please use your lyrical intro tomorrow to honor the great Randy Newman and favor us with the uplifting words to “Rednecks.” I’m sure our aforementioned esteemed blogger will approve.
How many more times do athletes have to perform poorly for a period of time before finally admitting they were injured? Athletes are praised when they play hurt and ripped when they don’t, but exactly how is a player helping his team when he plays while injured, and performs at an exceedingly low level. Wickman cost the team 2 games and almost another, and Redman, assuming his toe was the problem (not so sure about that one), has been horrible in most of his starts.
Sorry to repeat a picky point from late last night, but McCann was not hit on a backswing. There is a backswing in golf, not baseball. He was hit on a swing. Pena was hit on a follow through. Carroll described both as backswing, which is incorrect on both counts, since McCann committed catcher’s interference and Pena did not. None of your copy editors caught it either.
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this
Jeff, where’d they do an acoustic show? didn’t even know they were doing any. obviously without Isbell, anybody replace him for the night? i guess not needed for an acoustic show, though.
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this
F A Skippy you are sooooooooooo right ..and don’t forget last night’s blunder….Will the announcers say what you said ….NO…and you have mad my point above…..
By Brent
May 2, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this
Bravesfansince1966- wow. i hope you are joking.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this
Salty looks good……any chance he can play oh….left field or 1st base….hell let em pitch, at least then we’ll have a productive pitcher at the plate when we lose every 5th start.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this
sja, please lay off little jimmy smith talking about toes. this journalist is best qualified to discuss matters of the toe. if someone goes on the d.l. with a personality disorder journalist will defer to sja - sja is best suited for that topic. thank you.
now, baseball … isn’t grinch at the game? maybe grinch can get an interview with redman and get the scoop on the toe trauma.
and matthew, don’t gargle that concoction straight. jimmy smith forgot to tell matthew that it must be cut with milk first. undiluted it makes a good paint remover.
now, salty is looking good tonight. in fact, the thing that most stands out tonight to this journalist is that andruw is not allowing andruw’s self to put the ball in play. if andruw made an adjustment this team would be scary good. and dob is right about chipper being a hoss right now.
By JJMB
May 2, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966, and how about that gold-digger s** out a little Saltamacchia to lock in cash for life! Got to love it.
By David O'Brien
May 2, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this
Mr Baseball, I corrected myself later on McCann, after I saw the replay (earlier I was going off what Carroll wrote). As for terminology — backswing or follow-through — I don’t know that it’s too important. Everyone knows what we’re talking about.
Randy Newman, a fine choice. Great, great songwriter, obviously. He and Warren Zevon, so underrated among the masses.
Anybody go see Van the Man at Chastain? Great review in our paper, said he was in fine form.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:12 PM | Link to this
Bravesfanstuckin1966, to say that Langerhans would have made that last play for sure is absurd. It would have been an unbelievably good catch. Willie Harris was right to play that ball like he did and the announcers correctly commented that is was good fielding. It’s especially ironic that you criticize the conservative play on the ball considering that you’re highlighting a play where he tried to make a diving catch and did not, giving up an extra base. It’s one thing if he misplays balls to say that Langerhans wouldn’t have screwed up, but Langerhans, great a defender as he was, was not at the level that you could guarantee all-season highlight reel level catches. Harris has a World Series ring (big league experience filling in midseason doesn’t hurt, was hitting .362 in Richmond, and has gotten off to a good start in Atlanta.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this
Willie may be able to run but why can’t he field? I guess its too late to get Langy in that player to be named trade of Langy.
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this
Mr. Baseball… You are saying that Willie is the best we can do in left…you are an IDIOT! Mark my words, in about two months you will be crying about this move… What p** me off is that this move was made soley on ethnicity… there are many talented left fielders out there…this move was ONLY for political correctness…. Let’s give an African American your job…solely based on color and see how you like it!
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this
Willie fails to get to yet another one…he is making my point well!!! How many will hit off the wall tonight?
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this
Stealth I got’a disagree with you,I think Langy makes that play.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this
sir stealth, I disagree. Langy would have made that catch…..speed isn’t everything when it comes to catching a fly.
By DAVID
May 2, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this
Excellent comment Sir Stealth!
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
bravesfanstuckin1966, who would you have brought up? Names discussed were pretty much between Harris, Gregor Blanco, and Brandon Jones, who is also black. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for your allegations?
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
SirStealth… I was referring to his not knowing where the ball was last night..and also… Its April in Richmond too…averages are a bit lofty early… Your ignorance is amazing!
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:25 PM | Link to this
I’m sure everyone will jump on Bobby again for leaving James in too long against Howard, but I’d say it was pretty tempting given the level of dominance that James has had over Howard both historically and in this game. I doubt people will consider that when mistaking this for the Braves vent though.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this
Crap…..
By Oh My
May 2, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966, you are the IDIOT for what you are spewing on this blog. You do realize it’s not 1966 anymore right?
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this
WOW!! Don’t take my comments on Harris as any kind of indorsement of what bravesfan wrote above.Where the hell did that come from ?
By The Discontinued Operations and Non-Core Assets of Atlanta
May 2, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this
thebravesfanstuckin1966 has a long ugly history with this sort of thing. check out the falcons blogs from time to time. he is fond of saying things over there like At one time we could discuss our teams without such terms as bling, off the chain, haters, thugs… and there was a time when the players were clean cut, were fairly educated, and respected the fans He was completely oblivious to the racial overtones of those statements.
He does the racial baiting thing over and over and over again and then proclaims innocence about the whole thing everytime despite what he clearly said to the contrary.
Now I am going to leave this alone because this blog and the bloggers on here are too good for this racial crap. Just giving everyone the heads up to ignore this old timer with his old timey ways and thoughts before he sucks all of you into the depths of blog hell. It is guys like bravesfanstuckin1966 however who have caused the falcons blogs to be a complete embarrassment to this city.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966:
I don’t agree with the move but you are just a plain idiot to think that this is a racial move. In professional sports the best players play now days, not based on color. I could give you many examples but none are needed based on your disgraceful argument. If any bias is there its the lingering bias your generation left (the opposite). by the way I’m not black and yes i just said black not “African American”, sue me.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this
Let me get this straight, you immediately accuse a man with big league experience off to a hot start in Richmond, who was basically chosen over a hispanic player and another black player, as only being called up for being black - not giving him a shot to prove himself even as he gets off to a good hitting start for Atlanta - and I’m the one who’s ignorant?? Believe me, I’m no Terence Moore, but unfounded accusations like that give you some idea of where he gets his inspiration.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this
And yeah in my earlier post I was referring to the ball to deep center earlier tonight, not the one last night. And honestly I don’t care so much whether or not Langerhans would make it as much as calling out how completely absurd it is for someone to make an unfounded accusation about Wille Harris being called up because of his race and then calling anyone else ignorant.
By eraser
May 2, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this
By the way, referring to Langerhans and his apparently unassailable defense. He made an error in the game against Boston tonight. He was also hitting well under .100 as we all know. If you want to talk about someone who wasn’t earning his place, that’s it. And this is coming from someone who likes the guy and thinks he will turn out to be at least pretty decent.
By caveman22
May 2, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this
obviously bravesfansinceIwasbornretarded is either just trying to get a rise out of the blog or lost his job at the car wash to a illegal latino and hasn’t gotten over it yet. Or maybe he gets off on negative reinforcement, by responding it appears that you care what he says.
By BravesDave
May 2, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this
Man, does anyone else notice how the Braves are continually getting killed this season when they let a pitcher go just one more inning than he should? James goes into the 6th inning with over 100 pitches and there goes the lead. Happened to Smoltz. Happened to Hudson. This one is on Redman’s shoulders for failing to get out of the 2nd inning yesterday and tiring out the bullpen.
By Efrim
May 2, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this
So much for not worrying. NEVER GET A NIGHT OFF WITH THIS TEAM!!!!
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 9:40 PM | Link to this
How bout Thorman coming around………..You think Chucky came out because he didn’t pitch around Howard? I would have to assume thats what McDowell came out and told him to do.
By Chris
May 2, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this
You know you’re following a team from the South when you see this much harping about “catering” to African Americans.
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this
This is a professional organization and the only race that matters to management is the one for the post season.
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this
Jeff Porter is gonna have to go on the DL if he has to make any more trips out on the field to tend to injuries. Fortunately Salty will be able to stay in the game and now we have the bases loaded and 0 out.
By bravesfansince1966
May 2, 2007 9:48 PM | Link to this
Good job Willie…Now go play good defense!
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this
That rbi was for you, bravesfanstuckin1966
By mr baseball
May 2, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1866: as a matter of fact, I was let go from a job and a less talented, less experienced African-American was retained. Fellow MIB bloggers would be extremely amused if I named the offending company. I went out and got another job, eventually landing in a situation I much prefer to what I once had.
Let’s be honest here. You are a stone cold bigot (I use the word racist very gingerly) and an ignorant one at that (redundant?). This is an organization that over the years has unloaded David Justice, Kenny Lofton, Ron Gant, Fred McGriff & Gary Sheffield, and hasn’t had an African-American prospect of note since George Lombard.
And you think the only reason they called Harris up is because he’s African-American. Maybe they called him up because he’s a native Georgian, something the Braves seem to have a preference for.
Do us all a favor and find yourself a site where like-minded individuals congregate. Try googling skinheads or Aryans. Maybe the letters KKK will lead you somewhere you feel comfortable.
By Efrim
May 2, 2007 9:51 PM | Link to this
Gotta score more than just 1…..
By mr baseball
May 2, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this
Just as I was wrapping that up, Harris singled in the go-ahead run. Crawl back into your hole moron.
By Efrim
May 2, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this
WOW. That is a tremendous throw. Can’t feel good about tonight when the Phillies are making plays like that.
By BravesDave
May 2, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this
Woodward always comes through in the clutch. I love how the Mets sign former Braves to help them win and the Braves sign former Mets to help them lose.
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this
Chucky came out because he was done…
By Gil In Mechanicsville
May 2, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
Daggum…what a throw….
By Brad in KY
May 2, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966
Who else would the Braves have called up other than Willie Harris? He was one of the last players cut during Spring Training and was playing very well in the minors.
I’d like to know who you would’ve called up under the circumstances. For the record, Willie Harris plays both the outfield and the infield. Since Aybar is AWOL and Langerhans is gone, it seems even more appropriate that Harris would get the call.
By LudaChris
May 2, 2007 10:04 PM | Link to this
Hahaha.. Your observation that Mark Redman actually transcends the very definition of “bad” completely made my day.
That is just a new low.
By Dan
May 2, 2007 10:10 PM | Link to this
Wow…is Mike Gonzales sharp or what?
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this
Anyone who wants to see Salty in left field should probably reconsider their feelings after seeing him try to score on that sac fly.
By JP
May 2, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this
Congratulations to Salty! Talented ballplayer, great kid — go get ‘em!
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this
Superb inning of work by Gonzalez. He’s really rebounding from the soreness he had a few weeks ago. Just what the doctor ordered.
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this
Gonzo baby Gonzo stuff !!
By james
May 2, 2007 10:14 PM | Link to this
the way gonzalez pitched, willie didnt need to even move. He was downright nasty.
By Brad in KY
May 2, 2007 10:17 PM | Link to this
bravesfansince1966
You’re avoiding my question. And I don’t buy your story.
By Glass Half Full (GHF)
May 2, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this
Is “ingrown toenail” code for something like “flu-like symptoms,” “life partner,” or “Mommy’s special friend, Mr. Postman?”
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 10:25 PM | Link to this
Why would you have the guy who was 24 of 25 for saves pitch the 8th and the 1 of 5 guy pitch the 9th ?
By F A Skippy
May 2, 2007 10:28 PM | Link to this
All’s well and all that stuff.
By caveman22
May 2, 2007 10:29 PM | Link to this
see what I mean, the guy just needs attention and he gets on the blog and says what he really feels and then trys to blow it off as “just stirring the pot” and you guys “fed” right into it. So he got his 2 hrs worth of attention but more importantly he now has me “officially” on his as$ because making obvious statements
just to get attention is my thing and he’s dipping into my Kool-aid now!!!!
By Greg in TN
May 2, 2007 10:33 PM | Link to this
Braves scratch out a nice win tonight.
Aside from the homer that James gave up to Ryan Howard, I think he pitched fine. He’s struggling with his location at times and is having to throw entirely too many pitches to get through an inning. I think he’ll improve on that as we go forward. He just needs to work on his location and getting ahead of hitters.
Solid night of work from Paronto, Yates, Gonzalez and Soriano. Best appearance for Yates and Gonzalez so far IMO.
A good first night for Salty. I know he and everyone else wanted that first at bat homer, however he did just fine. Happy birthday Jared.
Good night by Willie Harris at the plate and making a nice catch in the field in the ninth.
Two out of three against a division rival who is playing better than what we saw the first three games of the season, the mets get shuffled back down to second… Can’t ask for a better ending to an evening.
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this
F A Skippy, maybe because the Phils had 2 tough lefties up in the 8th - Utley and Howard - and 3 righties in the 9th - Burrell, Helms and Werth. The pitching choices made perfect sense (and luckily, actually worked).
1 hit in 4 innings by the pen tonight. It’s not 2006 any more.
By Chris
May 2, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
Right on, Greg. Lots of swings and misses on James’s pitches. He’s pitched better than his record indicates.
By David in Athens, Al
May 2, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
Agree with you Gregg in TN. Good game, Braves really have alot strengths this year!!
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
Great game tonight. I like this Salty guy. He’s pretty good. It bumms me out that he’s a catcher. We already have an All Star catcher. Maybe Salty can learn the outfield.
I noticed James wasn’t bending his back on his follow through. He just stands upright the whole time. The game started and he was stiff as a board up there. Not until a lefty came up to the plate did he bend his back and at that point he started getting strikes where he threw them. I haven’t read through the posts so I don’t know if this was mentioned. But I don’t remember James being so stiff when he pitches.
By Carlos Amato
May 2, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
Alright. It’s official.
The Braves’ Rotation shall officially be called “Two and a half men”
By meansonny
May 2, 2007 10:40 PM | Link to this
Greg in TN.
Good post. Cosign :)
Gotta be happy for Willie and Salty today. Both played well.
Gameball could be shared between Willie and the bullpen, though. They were nasty.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this
F A Skippy, it made since for Gonzalez to pitch the 9th because that’s when Philly had their middle of the order left-handed hitters coming up. I think Bobby looks at Gonzalez and Soriano as being pretty much equal. The order he sent them out in is based on matchups. Pen looked great tonight, by the way.
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this
Chuck James looked like a whole man to me tonight.
By Mets Fans
May 2, 2007 10:47 PM | Link to this
Oakland jsut traded Langy to the Nats. So we’ll be seeing some more of Ryan..poor guy.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 10:47 PM | Link to this
Langerhans has been traded to the Nats
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this
Gonzalez had his finest outing by far. His stuff was nasty tonight.
Salty will be a stud, I hope he is not traded. He’s quite an imposing batter, I didn’t know he was that big.
By MBATL
May 2, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this
I thought Salty looked really good. He hit a couple of balls hard (one just foul), and looked like he knew what he was doing at the plate - taking some close pitches, not swinging at junk. Plus of course the throw, which was strong but maybe a little lucky… All-in-all, a really good debut for him.
By serbok
May 2, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
the “pen” was utilized correctly tonight:o)
By WKU_Brave
May 2, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
Just saw on Baseball Tonight, Langy traded again. This time to Washington for Chris Snelling…
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 10:52 PM | Link to this
I agree about Salty - now that he’s been up and looks like he really belongs, it’ll be really hard to let him go.
By HP
May 2, 2007 10:52 PM | Link to this
Breaking News:* **Ryan Langerhans traded to Washington Nationals for Chris Snelling.
By Carlos Amato
May 2, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
Yeah, but he’s a whole man who lasts half a game.
By Diamondback.Mac
May 2, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST IN, “lANGERHANS TRADED FROM OAKLAND TO WASHINGTON’.
By pecker gnat
May 2, 2007 10:54 PM | Link to this
journalism, so easy a pecker gnat could do it.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 10:55 PM | Link to this
By Sir Stealth
May 2, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this
Anyone who wants to see Salty in left field should probably reconsider their feelings after seeing him try to score on that sac fly.
Sir Stealth: touche, I wasn’t aware of him being….ah…..well no easy way to say it SLOW.
By the Way, I was born in Griffin,GA but moved to PA when I was in high school. I’ve seen much more racism here than in GA. So as for…….
By Chris
May 2, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this
You know you’re following a team from the South when you see this much harping about “catering” to African Americans.
What part of the “North” are you from? Have you ever lived in the “South”?
By Scalp 'Em Braves
May 2, 2007 10:55 PM | Link to this
Good way to win a game. Not a good way to let it get tied, but stuff happens. It’s tough to keep a good power hitter like Howard down. Chuckie picked the wrong time to make the wrong pitch to him. Glad we hung another run on em, and that the bullpen came through (Yates, Gonzo and Mr. Nasty absolutely dominating tonight - Paron-don’tsteponmy-to looked good too).
For those of you who have been calling Willie Harris anything but a major league worthy player, so far, happily, you have been proven wrong. It is a pleasure to have some offensive production out of the position from the left side of the plate. No, he’s not Langerhans defensively, but the catch he made in the 9th was sweet.
Lew:
The reason SJA knows about pecker gnats, dlck flies, and the like, is because he resides in the septic tank behind his mommy’s trailer. The rest of us have dogs, cats, horses, and other animals as pets. Grinch keeps a sheep handy in case he strikes out with his date du jour. SJA entertains and feeds the maggots that swarm his crotch. Sad, disgusting, even, but true.
JJS is correct about his modem hook-up. The phone company came out last month to extend to phone hook up to SJA’s septic residence. Rumor has it that the workers had to don haz-mat suits in order to complete the job due to the stench emanating from the tank. One of the workers was overheard saying that is the only time he has seen (smelled) doo doo improving the smell of the stench of a human being. Seems the SJA stench was unique, and overwhelming.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this
So who’d we get for Langy since he seems to be so coveted? It better be at least a “B” prospect.
By ernesto
May 2, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this
way to take the series boys, against a div. rival too. That’s what you’ve got to do - how nice is it to have a pen.
By john
May 2, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
the 2nd langerhans trade seems shady to me i think the nationals are up to some dirty business
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this
Sh!t. I scroll up the blog looking forward to reading some typically good game commentary and all I see is some moron on here going off about skin color. I quick scrolling up. Not worth filtering through all that crap. Anything of worthy note will more than likely make it back to the front of the conversation.
Greg in TN: I think James locations issues are related to his follow through. When he follows through his pitch is down and more consistant. When he pitches stiff-backed its up, or wide. Generally erratic. It’s something he can fix. There might be some other cause for it though. Hopefully Roger will spot it and help him work it out.
By Brad in KY
May 2, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this
Did I hear someone say that Langerhans has been traded to the Nats?
By Robert (Justice Is The Best)
May 2, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this
Overall good night by the Braves. James pitched well until the sixth. He should have never faced Howard or pitched around him. Both Rowand and Utley hit some lasers off of him. The bullpen was excellent. Tyler Yates has really got it together. Willie Harris is doing his best to make a case to stay in Atlanta. He has done more in two games than Langy had done in 20+. Don’t mean to pile on Langy but the truth is the truth. (BTW did anyone else hear that Langy got traded to the Nats for Chris Snelling. What are the Braves receiving for the Langy trade?)
Salty had a good night. He had an excellent approach at the plate. He impresses me as a really good hitter. He doesn’t look to be the kind of hitter that just goes up swinging at everything. Speaking of folks who swing at everything, Andruw is going to twist an ankle eventually. Somebody on here today and yesterday was saying that Andruw’s swing was fine. Are you on crack?! Mark my words Andruw will twist an ankle or worse by the end of this month if he doesn’t quit does ridiculous swings. You can see the frustration in TP’s face but he doesn’t seem to be able to do anything about it. I’m sure Cox tells him that Andruw is just fine. But, that swing is not fine.
I do have to wonder though that if Salty makes the most of his two week stay if the Braves won’t give him some time in LF or 1B. Can you imagine his bat at the bottom of the lineup with Thorman’s? This lineup would be almost perfect.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this
Even though Willie played well tonight, I still don’t like trading Langy. Hopefully Willie will stay hitting .429, with clutch hits like tonight, but I doubt it. I feel we got ripped of by Oakland. BTW, where were the Nationals when we were “shopping” him?
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this
Scalp ‘Em Braves
You were not the idiot in question last night. Sorry if you thought I was taking about you. I posted this on the blog last night, you may have already seen it, maybe not.
By journalist jimmy smith
May 2, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this
this journalist wants to apologize to sja. journalist jimmy knows sja will always be smarter and better then jimmy. journalist jimmy hopes this will not ruin his relationship with DOB. journalist loves DOB in more ways then one can imagine. Oh the humanity! journalist will be blogging as Rosalyn later to troll for attention. please stay tuned.
By JJMB
May 2, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this
Langerhans to Washington? I wondered what Oakland wanted with him. Now the Nationals want him? I bet that new wife of his is getting antsy. Poor bastard.
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this
Yeah, what did we get for Langerhans? Is it money or a player? And if a player, who?
By Bob
May 2, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this
BravesFanSince1566,
You are an idiot regardless if you were joking or not. I guess Joe Morgan called Fox South tonight and demanded that Joe Simpson pick Willie Harri as player of the game???? The guy deserved to be called up and has played well.
By Braves Fan 79
May 2, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this
Whos the 177 idiots that think Redmen should be kept around????
hopefully well keep salty up here and get rid of orr or woodward or wilson.
By Whitney
May 2, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this
For anyone interested I just got back from the Mississippi Braves game (the only positive of a business trip to Montgomery) and got to watch Matt Harrison throw 8 innings of shut out ‘ball. The kid was impressive tonight. DOB, I know the question has been raised before but now that toe health has claimed another Brave is there any chance Harrison gets a shot with the big club?
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this
What a pathetic suck up!—fastasballs…
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 2, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this
when will the NL Pitcher of the Month Award be announced? john maine has great stats, but the reasons i see hudson getting it over him are: 1) hudson has pitched at least 7 innings every game, whereas maine has gone 7 in 4/5 starts, one of those going 4.2. 2) maine’s walk count - 17 in 33.1, which is still pretty good, but huddy has 12 in 45. huddy also has allowed 29 hits to maine’s 18, which is obviously much better.
anyway, i hope i’m not clutching at straws here and trying to hard to make the case for hudson. i know i’m a braves fan, so there’s a bias, but i really think that hudson deserves the award more than anyone else in the NL, at least out of all the starters.
By Efrim
May 2, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this
Why didn’t we trade Langy to the Nats for Snelling? He is a better option than Willie Harris.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 11:17 PM | Link to this
About Redman:
I have been the first to rip into him on this blog (and I’m definitely not alone) but….any of us who have pitched before (not saying I’m all knowledgeable) know that a toe injury will really hurt a pitcher. Especially on the “push off” foot. Maybe he’s been hurt a while. If thats the case he should probably get another chance. I’ll hold off on my Redman bashing for a few weeks.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 11:18 PM | Link to this
journalist jimmy smith—give it a break @$$hole!…I could care less what you do…you’re as insignificant as pecker gnat crap…even though your last post was most likely an imposter…so go back to toe suckin’…whoever you are!…
By meansonny
May 2, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this
Daybed,
Lemke announced on the radio pregame that Maine got the April award.
Doesn’t make sense. But that’s what he reported.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 2, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this
when will the NL Pitcher of the Month Award be announced? john maine has great stats, but the reasons i see hudson getting it over him are: 1) hudson has pitched at least 7 innings every game, whereas maine has gone 7 in 4/5 starts, one of those going 4.2. 2) maine’s walk count - 17 in 33.1, which is still pretty good, but huddy has 12 in 45. huddy also has allowed 29 hits to maine’s 18, which is obviously much better.
anyway, i hope i’m not clutching at straws here and trying to hard to make the case for hudson. i know i’m a braves fan, so there’s a bias, but i really think that hudson deserves the award more than anyone else in the NL, at least out of all the starters.
Maine will get it because he’s playing in NY, the great NY. And obviously NY is where real baseball players come from (Hopefully you all can sense my sarcasm but if not here’s the disclaimer!)
By bergian
May 2, 2007 11:21 PM | Link to this
Langerhans traded after just one day???? Has this ever happened before? I mean, players get traded to one team, then another team without playing for the middle team, but…he played for one day! You can’t tell anything from one game!
By §§§§§§§§§§
May 2, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this
Anyone else noticed Scalp ‘Em has turned into a real douche lately? His usual post with no insight, just states the obvious…… Then he personally attacks other bloggers…… SJA could care less about the guy but he keeps trying to fight with SJA….. Scalp ‘Em, do us a favor and take a few nights off…… Frankly, your act has grown tired and your posts ever more boring……… Go sleep with your woman already… ‘cause you are the only man who would.
By meansonny
May 2, 2007 11:24 PM | Link to this
This could be a real good homestand.
Braves are up against right handers 4 of the next 5 games.
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 11:25 PM | Link to this
SJA, Not really a suck up, although it does appear that way. He just got his panties in a wad over something not even intended for him.
By bergian
May 2, 2007 11:25 PM | Link to this
SouthernJackAss, you are the one who is insignificant. Trust me, NO ONE cares if you were to leave this board, NO ONE. No tears would be shed, honest. Go away , like you said you would, I don’t know, about a 1000 times, be a man, and live up to your world. Bye.
By §§§§§§§§§§
May 2, 2007 11:25 PM | Link to this
fastasballs, you have just been pulled over, cited for acting like a woman, and had your license to be a man stripped from you. come back when you grow a pair.
By Scalp 'Em Braves
May 2, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this
Fastaballs - I saw it - no worries, its all good, man.
Robert (JITB) - Salty in left? If you think Diaz looks lost at times (and I do, so apparently do his team mates, hanging the nickname “Magellan” on him), just wait til you stick him out there. Sir Stealth was right on earlier with his comment about Salty’s speed (or lack thereof). Don’t get me wrong - I was most impressed with the young man tonight. But he’s no left fielder - too slow. Great first game, though…threw out a runner at 2nd, didn’t jump on the first pitch thrown, showed considerable maturity for a 22 year old. And he’s already a dad to boot. He’s got tons of upside. But, unless they send him back to AA and make him play first, he’s not going to add much to the Braves, unless it is through a trade. No way I’m advocating moving McCann to first. He’s a catcher, through and through, warts, dings, and injuries be damned.
By the way - anybody hear Joe Simpson’s ridiculous comment during the game? They quoted Salty as saying something to the effect that there is no way his parents could come up with a better birthday present that what he got today. Simpson said he agreed, and that not only could Salty’s parents not come up with anything better, but neither could his wife come up with anything better. Salty’s wife is pretty damned cute, even holding little Salty. I’m betting she could come up with something that would make for a very happy Salty, if she could get the kid to sleep.
By §§§§§§§§§§
May 2, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this
Yes, bergian, Rasheed Wallace, the best player the Hawks have had in the past 15 years, was traded after one game so that we could get the pleasure of watching Knight and Woodson subject us to years and years at the Lowlife Lowlight Factory.
By Randy
May 2, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this
DOB - The Truckers played 2 acoustic shows at the Georgia Theatre for
By jed
May 2, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this
New guys looked pretty good. Salty looks like he’s a year away at the most. Great swing.
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 11:31 PM | Link to this
What is Langerhans, a chain letter? Who are the Nats dealing him to on Friday?
By Me
May 2, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this
Bergian: Mike Piazza was traded to the Mutts after only 1 game with the Marlins.
By Scalp 'Em Braves
May 2, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this
To the 11:22 poster - if my posts are boring to you, then scroll right on down. For you to attack me for attacking the SouthernJerkAss is something akin to the pot calling the kettle black - oops, not supposed to say that tonight - not politically correct.
Don’t worry about SJA - he (you) can take care of himself. Probably does so four or five times a day.
By Randy
May 2, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this
DOB - The Truckers played 2 sit-down acoustic shows at the Georgia Theatre this past weekend (Twilight bike race weekend for those familiar with spring in Athens). And a change from their typical 40 watt shows. Wasn’t there, but heard good things. Apparently this was a random/one-time thing for the hometown crowd.
As for baseball, went tonight, solid game. Glad we went way over the top and got too many relievers this offseason. Soriano and Gonzo especially looked great tonight. It’s been said before, but this is a game we would have lost 7-4 last year. Happy Birthday Salty, thought you had a round -tripper that first at bat.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 2, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this
Sorry fastasballs—but I meant Scalp ‘Em is the suck up…
By TennesseePaul
May 2, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this
Salty. This guy is going to be good. And we either aren’t going to have him on our team, or he’s changing positions. So it’s either LF or 1B and LF is wide open. Harris is looking good out there, but I don’t see him as a long term solution.
Maybe trade bait? Package Harris, Orr, Woodward, Wilson and Redman for some extra bases with cameras in them or something.
By meansonny
May 2, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this
I think Redman will be healed and off the DL from his toe before Atlanta leaves Washington in a couple of weeks.
Could we see the infamous and much blogged Langerhans v. Redman matchup?
Does Manny Acta platoon? That could ruin the matchup of the century!
By gotigers72
May 2, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this
Salty’s wife is HOT!! Hope he stays up and hits some homers so they will show her jumpin’ up and down.
Langy’s trade to the Nats has to be among the fastest turnarounds in history. For those of you who said that Harris was not an upgrade from Langy, and there were some of you but not many, chew on this stat. After playing TWO games Harris has as many hits AND as many RBIs as Langy had in 40 something at bats. Not as refined an outfielder as Langy, but he made a hell of a catch tonight while Langy was making a crtical error in Boston. I hope Langy gets it together and is able to stay in the majors, but he wasn’t doing it here.
McDowell needs to work somehow with James and Davies on throwing less pitches. This use of the bullpen starting in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th innings has to stop or they won’t have anything left when it comes to crunch time in September and October. That’s right, I said October. You know what that means.
By bergian
May 2, 2007 11:42 PM | Link to this
“me” I just checked and Piazza was in 5 games in 1998, forgot about him.
By geauxbraves2000
May 2, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this
I don’t know much about Snelling, but if the A’s got him for Langerhans, shouldn’t the Braves receive someone of equal value from the A’s?
Different subject, wow, what a difference a year makes, WTG bullpen, lights out tonight.
Enjoy the day off and let’s get ready for a tough Dodger series. Anyone remember when this used to be a classic rivalry?
Geaux Braves!!
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 11:46 PM | Link to this
I can’t picture Salty in the outfield. I say first base is about the only place you could put him.
By BabyGoatEater
May 2, 2007 11:47 PM | Link to this
Does anybody know if McCann has played any other positions? Salty? I’m just wondering and can’t seem to find any info on it.
By snowball's chance
May 2, 2007 11:49 PM | Link to this
§§§§§§§§§§, Ratsheed would have given no effort for Atlanta. I got to watch his act in Portland for too long.For all his talent, he doesn’t want to be the man.
By Braves fan 202
May 2, 2007 11:50 PM | Link to this
SJA-you love cussin people out
By Mets Fans
May 2, 2007 11:51 PM | Link to this
You guys are so funny. You barely beat one of the worst teams in baseball, meanwhile we manhandle the second best team in the division and you losers are giddy. It’s our world. It’s jsut a matter of time. Look at the Mets dominant performances and your lucky bounce wins.
Who would your rahter have
Reyes or anyone else on your team? Reyes.
Wright or Larry? Wright. Way younger.
Beltran or anyone else on your team? Beltran.
DelGaddo or whoever you have? DelGaddo
Moises or whatever scrub you throw out there? Moises.
I could go on, but you get the point don’t you. Rednecks.
Mets win!!! Mets win!!!! Mets win!!!!!!
By fastasballs
May 2, 2007 11:52 PM | Link to this
Willie Harris looks like a shorter Otis Nixon with the double ear flap helmet.
Woodward is pathetic. I know that’s been said a 1001 times but somethings need repeating. I’d rather see Smoltz pinch hit before him.
By Ron
May 2, 2007 11:56 PM | Link to this
Langy for Snelling, I thought Snelling was a better player than Langy. I cant believe they got that much for Langy, we better have got something descent, or JS got screwed by Billie Beane!!!
By Lew
May 3, 2007 12:02 AM | Link to this
SJA-Zen, Dude. Listen to the sound of the blog being. Become one with the harmony of the spheres. Ohmmmmmmmmm.
By Ron
May 3, 2007 12:03 AM | Link to this
MetsFans, Dude who is in First Place. Who has 4 wins to 2 losses against the Mets this season, OK, shut the F*** up B!tch!!!
By Ron
May 3, 2007 12:05 AM | Link to this
MetsFans, I would rather be a Redneck, than a DAMN YANKEE!!!
By fastasballs
May 3, 2007 12:10 AM | Link to this
Only a Muts fan can talk chit after losing 2 of 3 to the Fish.
2-2 is about the best you can hope for against the D-Backs, maybe 1-3 if Glavine gets beat up tomorrow. That Saturday match up is priceless, Ho Park vs. Webb.
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 3, 2007 12:10 AM | Link to this
maine getting pitcher of the month over hudson and peavy and everyone else is…well, i want to say absurd, but it’s not because he’s been great. disappointing would probably be more accurate. i just don’t see how his numbers (in less starts) get him the award; hudson is just so much more deserving.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this
We took 2 out of 3 against a division rival.
Didn’t the Mets just lose a series to a .500 Win % ballclub? And they’re bragging?
Let’s see if Mets fans get excited when they lose 3 out of 4 to the D-Backs.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 12:12 AM | Link to this
Mets Fans-You mean the Reyes who trails Kelly Johnson in OBP? You mean the David Wright who finally hit a HR as opposed to Larry, who leads the NL in HR’s and is hitting well over .300 with many more RBI? Or do you mean Beltran as opposed to Francoeur, who leads the NL in RBI and the world in 2 out RBI? Just curious. Besides, you need to Zen out, like SJA. Become one with second place. I’d hate to see your blood pressure go this high too early in the season.
By Daybed Wagmoe
May 3, 2007 12:13 AM | Link to this
Mets Fans - i’d rather have first place, which we have.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 12:13 AM | Link to this
Stinky-Everyone knows it’s you. Are the schizoid tendencies returning?
By Wayne in Utah
May 3, 2007 12:21 AM | Link to this
Nice game tonight. I like what I saw of Saltalamacchia. He looks like the real deal. Patient at the plate and called a decent game.
He has played a bit of 1B and 3B in high school I read somewhere.
Andruw looked fairly lost again at the plate. Any pitcher that throws him anything middle to in is a fool.
Nite all.
By The Grinch
May 3, 2007 12:24 AM | Link to this
I’m home now. Observations from the game from someone who sat close enough to hit home plate with a cellphone: Thorman looks like the guy on the old “Big League Chew” wrappers from the 80’s; prototypical 1st baseman. All I’ve been hearing all year is “Salty this, Salty that;” we don’t need to trade Salty for ANYONE. We could tell that from warm-up; dude has something special. He’s gonna be a star somewhere; hope it’s here. Our bullpen’s so freakin’ good when they brought in Geary in the 6th tie game, it was general consensus that if we scored one run we’d win. That’s what happened, and we did. BIG DIFFERENCE. Willie Harris came to play. It’s in his vibe, body language, whatever. Dude’s a gamer. DeAngelo Hall came in during the 7th and sat two rows in front of us (which was right on the field); douchebag usher wouldn’t let me get a business card signed. Little guy, trying to be discreet in a plain black t-shirt but messed up with 3 carats of diamond studs in his ears. And my oh my were there some fine honeys. We sat in the section right over the owners box and people got called out to go in there and such; they seemed for the most part to be snobby and sometimes even angry that I was having a good time…like I was disturbing their…whatever. Douches all. Great game. If Bobby hadn’t inexplicably used a tired Chucky to pitch to Howard (Chuck’s last two hits given up were hit hard, post 100 pitches, 1st base open, blah blah blah)it probably would’ve been a shutout. Also, whatever we say about Jimmy Rollins, the dude can flat out fly. Time for a beer.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 3, 2007 12:25 AM | Link to this
Lew—I was under the assumption that DOB and the AJC weren’t going to tolerate anymore imposters—if so…this A$sClown should be bounced off the blog for good…or else, his head could ‘become one’ with about 40 pounds of my boot leather!
By Wayne in Utah
May 3, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the late night update Mr. Grinch! Saltalamacchia was even impressive from my living room’s perspective. We gotta figure something out with him, C-Mac and Thor-the Barbarian. We can use someone else to bring in a pitcher, or just keep auditioning our AA and AAA studs.
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this
Agreed on Salty. I think that kids going to be something special, we’ve got to figure out a way to hold on to him.
Braves 5 Phils 1. Braves 4. Mets 2. Got to like the way the seaons’s starting.
By Wayne in Utah
May 3, 2007 12:37 AM | Link to this
There seems to be quite a bit of animosity going on lately on the blog. I wish there were some easy way for DOB or AJC to police the issue. I use an extra name or two on occasion to try to be funny, but NEVER have I used someone else’s blog name.
It is probably a major pain in the butt to police this sort of thing. Problem is, when a blog like this gets very popular, you will get all kinds of “participation”.
Some nights I just log out and go away for a few hours, as I can’t deal with all the bull being spread.
I suspect SJA and JJS are victims of much of this blog piracy. Just a gut feel. Both seem like decent guys most of the time.
By Wayne in Utah
May 3, 2007 12:39 AM | Link to this
Nite all…..
By DAP
May 3, 2007 12:42 AM | Link to this
hey shaun, robert(JIB) asked you a question. he wants to know if youre on crack.
youre the guy yesterday that was saying that andruw’s swing was fine… please let us all know if youre on crack.
i dont know if you saw on the last blog where i posted what Pendleton said about andruw “pulling off the ball” big time. thats exactly what we were saying to you.
anyways, hopefully he corrects that and stays in there. that would be great for this offense, as much as the guys ahead of him are getting one base.
By TheSouthernJackAss
May 3, 2007 12:47 AM | Link to this
…SouthernJackAss envy—it’s a cruel abnormality…cruel indeed…
By Coach
May 3, 2007 12:54 AM | Link to this
Good Game , James made one mistake and the bullpen nailed it down. Chipper is smoking hot , Andruw just missed a couple of bombs , pulling two fastballs foul. Salty gave it a ride in his first at bat didn’t he ? Dudes got a gun for an arm , somebody is going to fork over their first born when we trade him. happy birthday Salty !
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 1:00 AM | Link to this
DAP
Do you still want to continue to knock Jones’ swing? Can’t we leave it alone?
He’s hitting .342 with 11 RBI and 8 walks the past 10 games.
He’s doing things you or I couldn’t dream of doing.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 1:06 AM | Link to this
Any chance that McCann goes to 1B next season?
I hate the beating that catchers take. It took Estrada about a season to recover from his collision.
I hate that they miss so many games because of the stress on their bodies. Today was the first game the Braves have won without McCann in the starting lineup. His bat is too good to leave on the bench once a week.
If I was McCann, I woud have a hard time giving up the facemask. He’s got a catcher’s mentality (probably will be a coach/manager someday), and all the other jazz that goes with being a quality Catcher (All Star, Salary, and HOF all seem to come a little easier).
But gosh, I wish he’d take one for the team for 2008 and take up 1B.
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 1:08 AM | Link to this
How can you look at Druw’s swing and say “yeah, there’s nothign wrong here…stay the course.” He’s a great athlete, a tremendous talent, and he’s productive right now, but…dude are you looking…pitches outside…nubbers and waves? Hello?
By Gil in Mechanicsville
May 3, 2007 1:12 AM | Link to this
Good game tonight, great outcome… I agree with the Grinch’s assessment on the sixth inning. You could tell James’ pitches were getting up and he was losing steam.
Richmond game was rained out tonight so a double header is planned tomorrow night. In the minors they only play 7 innings per game for twin bills. Still a lot of baseball.
Fortunately the Queen is scheduled to make her appearance in Richmond early. This is good as it cuts down on the chance of a serious faux pas when the NASCAR crowd hits town for the races friday and saturday. Just would not look right if someone were to mistaken the Royal Limo for Jeff Gordon and hurl a few cool ones across the bow.
Poor Langerhans, he has been sent to the equivalent of baseball purgatory. His best hope is get whatever is wrong fixed because it is going to be a long time before Washington contends. They already have a kid they are really high on to play center.
Maybe the “Langerhands” could thumb a ride up I85 to D.C. just to cheer him up. One thing for sure, homeboy won’t deal with Oakland again for a while. I doubt he would have just sold Langy to a division rival.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 1:14 AM | Link to this
Grinch, how’d you end up in those seats? Nice scenery down there.
I agree with you wholeheartedly on the observation of Salty. Since that first spring he had with Braves (in 2006), you could tell this kid’s got something, got “it.” He’s got star potential written all over him — his demeanor, confidence, swagger, his physical presence (big dude), and, of course, his talent.
Just look at the picture of him on our website. All he’s doing is trotting across the field, and he just looks different than your average young player.
He’s only 22 and there’s no reason to make a knee-jerk assessment and move him to left field because there’s a need there right now.
Power-hitting left fielders are a dime a dozen. And he’d only be mediocre, at best, in left, I’m guessing. But he can be a standout behind the plate, and switch-hitting, power-hitting catchers are a hell of a lot harder to come by and more valuable, whether on your team or in trade for a huge piece that might help your team down the line.
By crimedogrules
May 3, 2007 1:16 AM | Link to this
First of all, Mets fan, I know youre really a braves fan pretending to be stupid. But for the sake of argument —Alou over anyone on our team? Delgado? Maybe Reyes over Renteria, thats all I’ll concede.
Second, how many times have Bobby and JS used the mysterious illness thing? Reitsma last year with his numbeness. Does anybody believe that Redman will play even one more inning if they can find a number five starter that doesn’t tax our whole bullpen every fifth day? If Oscar or Smith or whoever does well, expect some lingering effects of that surgery followed by a freeze of information followed by a quiet release sometime in August. Just like the RF’er that was there right before JeffFran came up, the name escapes me… was an all-star… experiment in the outfield…signed him for like a million or so… what was his name?
By fastasballs
May 3, 2007 1:22 AM | Link to this
Ernesto
Had to laugh at the “stay the course” comment.
I just don’t get it with Andruw. One of the Braves announcers last night said he studies film constantly. Does he just watch the tapes of his HR’s & fast forward through the bad swings? Just once you would think he would say screw it & look for something outside to drive to right.
Frenchy applied what TP taught him and look at the difference.
By Homer
May 3, 2007 1:25 AM | Link to this
hola
By Gil in Mechanicsville
May 3, 2007 1:27 AM | Link to this
fastasballs Willie Harris looks to be about 5’8” in person but he plays bigger. He is not a home run hitter but he gives it everything he has got. Really was a little spark plus tonight wasn’t he?
Now, if we can just get Andruw to discover a balanced swing. He would be a much more valuable hitter with better home run numbers. I have seen so many gofers try the same approach. Big guys try to kill the ball and the hook, slice, top and do just about everything wrong but once in awhile they get off a really long straight drive. On the other hand have watch petite woman with perfect balance and smooth swing consistently drive the ball 200 to 250 yards. Andruw is the 800 lb gorilla right now….
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 1:27 AM | Link to this
Crime Dog, I believe the name you’re looking for is Mondesi. Balanced him out with “great guy but nothing left” Jordan in LF. Good times.
By Bravo Nam
May 3, 2007 1:30 AM | Link to this
Kudos to Cox
In recent weeks the Robert disease has spread at an alarming rate on this blog- Cox bashing. Just a few quick reminders: a good amount of credit for Johnson’s eye popping performance at 2nd goes to BC (he came up with the idea and then stuck by him during Johnson’s slow start to the season); the Braves are top in the East despite a rash of injuries; and, top in the East despite some terrible starts to the season by a few of our hitters, starting pitchers and bullpen guys!
Props to Robert
Despite being one of his most outspoken critics, some props to Robert for mellowing and starting to give BC a bit of credit…and even defending him on occasions. It’s much easier to agree with justified criticisms of BC’s managing when there’s a balance in the criticism.
A starting pitcher
This horse is still waiting for a drink. Since the end of last season it’s been clear the Braves needed to bring in a no2/3 type pitcher. Been talking to myself on this point. If not addressed shortly, it’s going to bite the Braves on the backside hard…you can’t have two of your five pitchers averaging two innings a game and another pitcher averaging five innings a game…it’s more than wins and losses…it’s about protecting your bullpen…andn ot having them burnout half-way through the season.
Depressing
Every time that man Bonds hits a home run I feel depressed. Almost as bad as a Braves loss…it just doesn’t seem right that a jerk like Bonds with genuine question marks over his achievement may pass a stand-up guy and Braves legend like Hank Aaron…is it too much to ask all pitchers to walk him from now on?
By Gil in Mechanicsville
May 3, 2007 1:37 AM | Link to this
Okay, time to call it a night…
By crimedogrules
May 3, 2007 1:37 AM | Link to this
thanks ernesto…totally blanked on it…now i can sleep
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 1:48 AM | Link to this
I don’t want to get too excited after just one game (especially when he didn’t even get a hit), but Saltalamacchia looks like he could end up being a real stud in this league. He’s kinda got that KJ stance and swing, which means they both kind of bat like Chipper. Plus from the few at-bats I saw it looks like he’s got a pretty good eye. That at-bat in the 6th off Garcia was an 0-2 count, then he fouled off a couple and eventually got the count to 2-2 before getting hit by the pitch… I don’t know if I would go trading this guy any time soon; CAN WE TEACH HIM TO PLAY LF???
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 1:49 AM | Link to this
Ernesto, This debate on Andruw’s swing has gone on too long.
You’re right. Does he have any options left? I’m sure he could work it out in Richmond. What a waste of talent. Maybe we can trade him for Chris Snelling?
Do you think that 6’4” frame of Salty can steal a HR from above the CF wall?
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 1:51 AM | Link to this
“I just don’t get it with Andruw. One of the Braves announcers last night said he studies film constantly. Does he just watch the tapes of his HR’s & fast forward through the bad swings? Just once you would think he would say screw it & look for something outside to drive to right.”
I don’t know, I kind of like watching him jump out of his shoes every pitch he swings at; That sh!t is entertaining.
By The Grinch
May 3, 2007 1:54 AM | Link to this
Back again. Yeah, DOB; I felt a bit out of place there; those aren’t my people. There was way too much douchebaggery, and I almost had to beat down a dude in mandals who cut in front of me in the last beercall line during the 7th (the people who actually came to our seats and took orders dissapeared after the 6th, not realizing a Grinch has thirst beyond mere mortals). I decided that any dude who wore sandals already had his punishment in life and let him go. But yeah, from a guy who hasn’t studied Salty much and who’s seen both him and McCann in person; from my limited viewpoint I’d put McCann at first before Salty; it’d prolong the career of a better hitter and Salty’s got “superstar catcher” practically tatoo’d on him. You just gotta be there to know (not you DOB; others). That runner he gunned down wasn’t an accident; guys got a throwout to second like Tiger’s got a golf swing. KC and I looked at each other when he was doing it it warmup going “if he can do that in a game…” Guy’s for real.
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 2:04 AM | Link to this
meansonny, you’re missing my point, Andruw doesn’t suck, Andruw isn’t god awful, Andruw isn’t bad. Okay?
Andruw right now is goign up to the plate trying to pull everything. He’s overcommitted to one side of the plate, and it’s only through his incredible talent and pticher’s mistakes that he’s still been real productive.
But does that mean, he shouldn’t rethink his approach?
That’s all I’m asking.
It’s a long season, full of peaks and valleys, why take a glaring weakness into battle?
That’s my point.
By Coach
May 3, 2007 2:10 AM | Link to this
Who gets the start on monday ? Your guess is as good as mine.
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 2:12 AM | Link to this
Teams currently in the market for a great young catching prospect:
Giants, A’s, Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers, Cubs, Brewers, Blue Jays, Astros, Royals, Nationals, Devil Rays, Marlins (no)Phillies (no), and Mets (no)…. And I’m sure I’m missing a few teams too…
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 2:21 AM | Link to this
Grinch, my man I got a question for you; How many games do you think the Braves have won this year that they would have lost last season? I would say at least 4 or 5 games already. I guarantee to you tonights game would have been a loss a year ago…
By The Grinch
May 3, 2007 2:23 AM | Link to this
DonC, we don’t need to trade this dude unless it’s for a young ML ready starter; all BS aside. Y’all haven’t heard me mention his name all year. I am now; we need to keep him unless we get bowled over. We have other trade pieces that can be packaged. A team with Thorman, KJ, Francouer, McCann, Salty…mix in decent pitching and the Braves would be as exciting as anyone in a couple of years…maybe sooner.
By Coach
May 3, 2007 2:24 AM | Link to this
Just checked the Braves/MLB website , 41 players on the 40 man. How does that work ?
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 2:33 AM | Link to this
Coach, in regards to the 4-5 starters: I think Davies is going to start come he!! or high-water until Cormier comes back (if he does). The other starter is a no-brainer, it’s Villareal. After that though? Barry? Harrison? Johnson?
By BabyGoatEater
May 3, 2007 2:36 AM | Link to this
Just Imagine…..
1.Kelly Johnson/2b 2.Edgar Renteria/ss 3.Chipper Jones/3b 4.Andruw Jones/cf 5.Brian McCann/1b 6.Jeff Francouer/rf 7.Jared Saltalamaccia/c 8.Scott Thorman/lf
What a lineup that would be! Probally best in majors if all live up to potential.
By The Grinch
May 3, 2007 2:41 AM | Link to this
Yeah, not even comparable. We were sitting there going “Its a tie game now, but if we can just get into their bullpen we’ve got it made.” Not just that their bullpen is a weakness, but that ours is so good. When you know Yates (who looked as good as anyone tonight), Gonzo and Soriano are coming up it’s like going to the river with a flush; you can lose, but you sure like your chances. BTW, props to Paranto who’s warmup pitches looked about like he was gonna keel over. He never should have pitched tonight; he was gassed after last night(where he shouldn’t have pitched as long as he did). But he reached back and got what he needed to and got it done tonight. This team WILL overcome Bobby. I’ve seen it in person. Also, I should point out I love Bobby as a person; his “assumed” look on the screen when he’s being introduced, his waddles to the mound, his arguing with the umpire, his “presence,” relationship with players, etc. is not in any way to be dismissed. We’re seeing one of the greats; cherish every moment. I swear, though; some of the moves he makes just make you want to grab the keys before he hurts someone.
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 2:52 AM | Link to this
Grinch there is no way the Braves move McCann to first base. If they did then what? I guess you’d put Thorman in left? I think that would seriously downgrade our defense at 2 positions. If anything we need to just teach Salty to play LF; from what I saw tonight it looks like he’s athletic enough to play out there (and he’s got a gun)…
By serbok
May 3, 2007 2:58 AM | Link to this
Hi guys~ just my 2cents worth~ I think the decision to let James pitch to howard was borderline~ meaning~ there wasnt any real indicators to have not let him pitch to him~ Its the beauty of BB that that gut instincts seem to be more um~ pertinent than most other sports~ I think it was the right move to leave him in. But of course that is debatible:o) Great post by Lew at 12:12 thanx Lew! Also~ I too wish it were possible that the ajc could somehow lock in screen names~ I stand by what I post~ regardless of popular opinion To me it would be shaming to myself to post under a different name regardless of the reason! I enjoy this blog very much, and the different opinions and personalities that are here~DOB and Carroll~do an excellent job with keeping us up to date~ Carrolls last blog was her best work yet I think~ Still waiting on Rosalynn~:o) who is stinky? Keep shining on you crazy diamonds~ 16 days to go:o)
By serbok
May 3, 2007 2:59 AM | Link to this
forgot to add~ Bobby did an excellent job with the bullpen tonight!
By DonCoburleone
May 3, 2007 3:02 AM | Link to this
1.Kelly Johnson/2b 2.Edgar Renteria/ss 3.Chipper Jones/3b 4.Andruw Jones/cf 5.Brian McCann/1b 6.Jeff Francouer/rf 7.Jared Saltalamaccia/c 8.Scott Thorman/lf
Nice balance in that lineup. It’s got 3 pure lefties, 3 pure righties, and 2 switch hitters. If only there was a DH in the NL, Salty could be playing every day…
By The Grinch
May 3, 2007 3:28 AM | Link to this
I don’t know the answer. I DO know the dude needs to play every day (not necc. now; but when his time comes). Time for beddy-bye; everyone behave while I’m gone.
By Bob, journalist
May 3, 2007 4:23 AM | Link to this
I fell asleep in the third and missed most of the game but it sounds like Harris brings something to the table … if nothing more than versatility and speed. Of course he’s also given some the opportunity to manufacture and then beat a dead horse.
A good rule to follow is that if you don’t have the deftness to effectively indulge in the use of the vulgar then don’t … you only embarrass yourself when you so do. While standards have been lowered over time, very few qualify as being adroit in this arena.
Another good rule to follow is to refrain from proffering mean spirited posts.
If those two simple rules were followed, methinks it would eliminate virtually 100% of the objectional posts … of course, it wouldn’t eliminate vulgarities from our totally unrefined, well intending friends who so indulge as a matter of course … without malicious or evil intent … but then, that’s not the objective.
Watching the tape of the game, it took an excellent throw to get Salty at the plate … if he was indeed out … Kelly’s fly seemed deep enough and the young man didn’t seem all that slow approaching the plate though he may have been slow comming out of the gate.
I know that I’ve been critical of Andruw’s hitting approach but he has power to burn and there’s no reason for him to look more like a bush league slugger than a major league hitter. It strikes me that were he to reduce his wasted atbats and either wait for his pitch or go with that which he gets … the way our top three guys are getting on base, most of the games wouldn’t even be close.
The more I see of Gonzo, the more I like what I see … except maybe for his position after releasing the ball.
Good win … better than good … Salty didn’t look bad … the Phillies are the team to beat? Well, that’s what we’ve been doing!
By Coach
May 3, 2007 4:38 AM | Link to this
The Braves need more pitching and I’m referring to the rotation. The Braves are probably showcasing Salty while McCann and Pena heal up. As much as we all like this kid , he is more than likely trade bait for a starter some time in the near future. Now that Salty has been added to the 40 man , somebody is getting bumped. Hopefully it doesn’t cost us anybody with reference to the waiver process. It’s nice to dream but McCann is locked in behind the plate and Thorman is the prototype of a first baseman. Thorman’s defense at 1B aint half bad at all. All these young studs in Atlanta , you just know the Braves scouts are grinning ear to ear.
By Bob, journalist
May 3, 2007 5:13 AM | Link to this
Gil Now, if we can just get Andruw to discover a balanced swing. He would be a much more valuable hitter with better home run numbers
You know it, I know it, the Braves know it … the whole world knows it!!
I too have seen so go1fers try the same approach … with the same result as you’ve witnessed. Big guys try to kill the ball and the hook, slice, top and do just about everything wrong but once in awhile they get off a really long straight drive.
Indeed, there are plenty of petite women with good balance and smooth swings that consistently drive the ball 250+ yards.
Andruw is the greatest Centerfielder that I’ve witnessed but will never be any good as a hitter until he changes his perspective of what the objective is … and telling him isn’t going to make it happen … it has to be his idea … or he has to be benched to the point of serious embarrassment … and the Braves haven’t the nerve to so do … for they too look at the numbers, rationalize and accept his medicority relative to his potential.
800 pound gorilla is unfair, he’s lost weight!.
By serbok
May 3, 2007 5:21 AM | Link to this
wow~ I cant believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to agree with coach~~~~totally blows my mind~ hm Coach? I have to ask the inevitable~~~ Did You stay at a Holiday Inn express last night?
AND to BOB the journalist~ I dont believe in rules! however eloquently they are presented~ LOL
By serbok
May 3, 2007 5:35 AM | Link to this
BYOB BOB~ maybe the screen name rule would be nice~lol~ my bad:o)
By Bill
May 3, 2007 5:47 AM | Link to this
Washington wanted Langy but Braves would not trade with them. Salty is ready to hit in Majors but where do you play him. He can’t play outfield, so 1B is only choice. If they have to trade this guy, they had better get a king ransom.
By tom
May 3, 2007 6:26 AM | Link to this
Is Serbok a dirty, smelly Arab terrorist?
By ssiscribe
May 3, 2007 6:34 AM | Link to this
Great game last night. Thought Salty went yard in his first at-bat — came off the couch yelling at the TV (noticed I said yelling and not screaming; I’ve mellowed out; more on that in a minute). Dude definitely showed that swagger we’ve been reading and talking about. Can’t help but think about a lineup in the future of McCann behind the plate, Salty at first, Prado at second and KJ in left.
Don’t think Salty will stay up here. He needs to play every day. But we’ll see him in Atlanta full-time, I believe, for keeps by Sept. 1.
Here we are, 27 games through the season (1/6 of the season is over; can you believe it?), and the Bravos are on pace to win 112 games. I think, back end of the rotation aside, we don’t have much to complain about. So far, so good. Bring on the Dodgers.
Now, toes (noted transition from the famed Scribe): Redman’s injury may have caught some of us off-guard, but it always shows you have to stay on your toes when toeing the slab. Who in the world is going to be the fourth starter (I think Davies has the No. 5 spot nailed down)? Time for Villarreal, maybe? At least there are a couple of off days this month, starting with today’s.
Now, ballpark (more transition): We’ll be in the yard Saturday, the wife and the two boys and myself. Grinch, glad you got my texts last night. Hope you guys had a great time. What seats! Wow. Down there with the high-rollers. I feel bad that you had to sit up with me and the pigeons during the Mets game! We’ll get together for a game soon.
Now, mellowness (more noted transition): The Scribe has been behaving himself lately, denizens. So, yesterday afternoon, my wife sends me a text message and tells me to go get a massage, on her dime. Nice, nice. Nothing like getting a massage, then coming home to watch the ballclub get it done and return to 10 games above .500.
Life is good. DOB, welcome back. Enjoy the off day, all.
The Scribe abides. Peace.
—30—
By Richard Cory
May 3, 2007 7:19 AM | Link to this
This Just In—Braves trade ‘Salty’, to Nationals for Langerhans. :]
By Ricardo
May 3, 2007 8:00 AM | Link to this
The thing that impresses me most about this team aren’t the homeruns and it isnt’ the bullpen, though both are great. The top 3 in our linup are such intelligent hitters. KJ, ER and CJ seem to always go to the plate with a plan and take what the pitcher gives them. They’re always on base and never seem to have a bad at bat (though Chipper looked did in the 6th or 7th last night). If Andruw would quit trying to pull everything out of the park (how many times has he lost his balance at the plate this year???) this could be one of the best lineups we’ve run out in years. McCann is a stud, Frenchy has made awesome strides and Thorman is coming around as well. I grant you left field is a black hole but one way or another that will change. It’s gonna be a lot of fun to watch these guys as the year goes on and if AJ starts go to right field once a week or so we’ll be all the better.
Go Braves!
By Paul in Queens
May 3, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
Coach,
I agree with you completely. Smoltz, Hudson, and then its mediocrity. After seeing Chuck James pitch, I find it hard to believe that he can be a quality number 3 guy. Why?
His pitch count. He seems to labor in every inning. By the time he’s in the 5th, his pitch count is reaching 100.
He gets behind hitters. How many 2-0 counts last night?
Lack of quality starts. By the time the 6th inning roles around, he’s gone.
He walks a tight rope each inning. The Phillies could have easily scored 6 runs on him last night (reminds of Jorge Sosa, when he went 12-3 two years ago)
I know he has shown flashes, but so has Davies. I hope I’m wrong.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Is anyone else concerned about Chuck James? He can’t get past 5 innings. He has given up 40 hits in 31 innings. His ERA is 4.82. His WHIP is 1.56. Opponents are hitting .313 off of him. Pretty troubling. 72 innings in 15 starts for Redman, James, & Davies just ain’t cutting it. That’s not even 5 innings per start. They’re gonna killy our bullpen. Thank goodness Smoltz and Hudson have been perfect. Otherwise, we’d be in trouble. However, the Braves are not going to continue winning 80% of their starts. It will slip down to between 60-70%. James needs to step up.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this
Great win for the Braves last night. Apparently Oakland saw enough out of Langerhans long before the Braves did. Now he can’t field either.
By-the-way Willie Harris just might be the 2007 version of Charles Thomas for the season and left field will be set with him and Diaz for the season. If not he sure deserves Orr’s spot on the roster.
Salty looks good for a young catcher - several teams should come a calling by midseason for this kid. I am afraid he is blocked for playing for the Braves and he will be a goner via a pitching trade before seasons end. Not too many young catchers with power hitting ability around the majors in this era.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Bob, journalist.
This’ll be my last post on the matter. But Andruw is tied for 9th in all of MLB for walks.
We probably have a different definition of wasted at bats or a patient eye.
Everyone is so down on Andruw’s swing. He only has 4 more strikeouts than Francouer. Everyone is so proud of Frenchy’s approach when Andruw’s getting on base more (and has a higher OPS consequently).
I’m a little tired of the doublestandard. Why? Because no one gets that Andruw is performing the way he always does. No one gets that this is their last chance to witness a potential HOF’er in a Braves uniform. And I seriously don’t think most of us are appreciating what we’re witnessing.
“Andruw doesn’t get it, but Frenchy does” (I’m not knocking Frenchy’s improvement. Just the fans who appreciate his contributions, but mock Andruw’s swing)?!?!
If Andruw Jones is wearing a garter at the plate, I’m fine with that. He’s been on of the top 3 or 4 run producers in the outfield (top 10 at any position) in the National League.
He drives in runs, he gets on base, he scores (thanks to Frenchy & McCann). He’s doing his job.
Uggh. Sorry about the long post. But I’m going to stop defending Andruw’s swing becuase it in all honesty is taking away my enjoyment of his time here. I’m just hoping for “perspective” from this audience.
Go Braves!!! Sweep the Bums!
By jason
May 3, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this
Comments on the game : I know it was only one game but, Salty looks ready. Did not look overwhelmed. The AB when he walked showed Patience, and a good eye. The third AB also before he got hit with the pitch. Nice block on the pitch in the dirt, and also showed a strong arm, even though Edgar also made a nice play. Chuck James will not last long with the Braves, I don’t think. I like his make up. The thing with James is he has no out pitch on the ML level. I know he had six strikeouts but, How many ABs did he throw 8, 9, 0r 10 pitches just to get an out or give up a base hit. He throws only 89 mph. If he can get more movement on the fastball that could make all the difference. Now I have to give a shout out to Cairo. Willie C. Harris.2 for 3, a great play in LF.I graduated a couple of years ahead of Willie, but have watched him play. Outstanding playe. He just needs an oppurtunity to play everyday. He has only played 1 full season everyday. The numbers were not bad at all; just never had a chance to improve upon them. I think sometimes people get caught up with all these power stats and base hits, stolen bases, and reliable defense gets forgotten about. Anyway, great game all around. Even the BP was impressive considering 71/2 innings they had to pitch the game before.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
James will be fine. He currently should not be ranked as a #3 starter (but where is Hampton?).
I’ve seen Bobby protect his young pitchers a little bit by limiting the # of chances opponents get to look at them. James compounds the problem by getting behind or into long counts.
Both games against the Phillies this year, he did well through 5. He’s giving us what we could’ve expected from him so far. I think he will turn the corner at some point in the future though.
By Train Wreck Bystander
May 3, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
It seems the Nats wanted Langerhans all along and the Braves didn’t want to trade him to someone in the division.
Supposedly the Nats called about him as soon as he got to Oakland.
He is expected to be a reserve outfielder for Washington.
By Arcade Smolder
May 3, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
When The Arcade Fire grows up, they will be The Decemberists. Concert was good, don’t get me wrong and I did like the staging and the 10 musicians and everything but … in baseball terms, they could stand to develop a change up. All 10 musicians don’t have to play on every single song. It’s actually kind of limiting. The band is also a bit too in love with the “anthem.” It does get the kids going and everything, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing—like the violinist on the left. I thought her enthusiam, etc. was great early in the show, but by the end I just wondered if she had ADD and couldn’t be still. Ever.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
meansonny,
I completely agree. I think the problem is that everyone always heard the Willie Mays comparisons when AJ was coming up and expect him to be that type of hitter. I also think he is a very relaxed (for lack of a better term) player so people view him as maybe not a hard worker. You hear a few people make similar judgments about Chipper Jones, of all people, too.
I remember being in Boston about 4 years ago and an older guy sitting in front of me criticizing Manny Ramirez. I guess there are just certain players in baseball that do a lot of things well, but because of how they look as players, some people are going to harp on what seems to be negative.
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Meansonny,
He is going to have to turn the corner. We can’t just get 5 innings from this guy everytime out.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets,
James’s ERA so far is 4.83 for a team that has scored 5.26 runs/game. James is not Johan Santana or anything, but he’ll give the Braves a chance to win on most nights.
By doc
May 3, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
jjs, good morn to you.
me thinks that redman has toed the slab too often or for the last time as a brave. caveman hit it on the toe when he said he was out a day with the same injury. i heard that he had gone to the dl but missed why, i almost fell over when i heard it was for an ingrown toenail. my daughhter had the same prob at the age of twelve from playing soccer, did her toe and she was praciticing the next day. toe omens tell me that this is a nice way to find someone else to do the job without taking up space on the roster. he is gone.
as far as the quad. it extends the leg so it is the four muscles that do the job on the front of the leg below the knee. the hammie does the opposite in the back. quads are harder to come back from when injured because they have to overcome the action of the stronger muscle in back over a longer lever arm, an imbalance of forces, two stronger attachments to the back of the knee for the ham and four tready attachments to the edge of the front of the knee to extend it towards the toes( trying to speak a language that only you know so well). toe must have been the first word you learned in english.
now as far as salty, he needs to be ready to head to the lf spot. andruw can help make him a better defensive player just as he does everyone out there by covering the area like the old constitution used to do like “dew” in the south. he can go both ways at bat. if murph can make the adjustment as well as the chipper we have lf covered if the kid hits, he’s got an arm to make up for some of his liabilities of speed, can backup catch so we dont have to carry three catchers into the playoffs and best of all he extends his own career and productivity. he just look like an athlete who is ready, if given the shot. his enthusiam will take him far as it did francoeur. to heck with todd zeile or even joe torre, see what he can do in the of. if he succeeds then you dont have to get a bat for cf if they decide to not keep andruw, god forbid.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
Did everyone see Bobby’s comment about Chuck’s changeup to Howard? If not, here it is:
“”He made one really bad pitch to Howard,” Cox said of James, who allowed three earned runs and eight hits in five-plus innings. “I think I might have hit that one out.”
That’s pretty funny!
Regards,
Jason
By darblue
May 3, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
DOB - I was at that show and came up to the front when Win gave everybody in the back rows the ok to move up. Love me the Arcade Fire, great band and great love for what they do. Neon Bible is sensational.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Well there is one thing for sure, this will be the last year Braves fans can be concerned about Andruws batting stance and not living up to their so-called expectations. He will be long gone after this season and maybe then when he comes back to Atlanta and plays against the Braves, he can live up to the legend status that the spectators perceive of him. I sure would hate to see how competitive this team be without his presence.
I think any team would be content to have James on their starting pitching staff, especially with the shortages of pitching in baseball right now. James should be fine —-if not — 2 starting pitchers….. the Braves are in deep trouble if this is the case.
By KC
May 3, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
G’mornin’ all! As Grinch previously reported in the wee hours of the morning… we enjoyed the best seats we’ve ever sat in at the Ted last night (5 rows behind the owner’s box).
It was very nice to see Salty up close, because there are certain things that don’t translate well to TV.
First of all… we all knew this was a big kid, but up close, that takes on a new meaning. This guy’s legs look like tree trunks.
Also, Salty’s got a cannon. As he made his warm-up throw down to second before the first pitch of the game… I looked at Grinch and said “damn, that throw was awfully straight”. It’s about 125 feet from where the catcher sits to 2nd base, and usually when a catcher throws to 2nd, there’s a little bit of arc to the plane of the baseball. But that didn’t appear to be the case when Salty made that warm-up throw, nor when he gunned down that attempted steal.
I’m with Grinchy… this kid’s got superstar written all over him. Hell of a talent and physical specimen.
By deepinmetsterritory
May 3, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
I can’t help but think of Andy Marte a little bit when hearing about all of this Salty stuff. I mean, we got a starting, All-Star shortstop in exchange for a guy who had barely played at the major league level. DOB, how does Salty compare to Marte, and if he’s better, what’s the ceiling we could hit on a trade for him? A number two starter? A proven left fielder?
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Y’all slay me. You’er all set to give Scott Thorman the boot after 27 whole games in his first full season in the bigs to make room for your precious “Salty.” Thank GOD y’all are fans and bloggers and not managers and GMs.
I like the guy’s spirit and attitude, too, last night. It was his first game, though; did ya expect him to be morose or somber? Haha.
But can we give Thorman a little more time to earn the spot at 1B that Bobby Cox and John Schuerholz said he’d already earned in their eyes? I remember a lot of folks here were clamoring to move “Salty” to first base and rush him up here last year, this time, too, and we wound up with a 30+ home run hitting, sure-gloved first baseman that was worthy trade bait to land a quality reliever.
Thorman’s looked good with the glove, and has come alive at the plate of late, too. The guy’s hitting .281 with 3 HR and 11 RBI. I’m not one to buy into averaging those stats out over a full season, but realistically, he struggled until recently, so doing so might actually be a disservice to him. But they come out to this…
.281 AVG 18 HR 66 RBI
Anybody have a problem with that over 132 games played? He’s projecting to play 132 games this season, in his platoon role, as of now. A rookie who’d hit .280 with nearly 20 HR and over 60 RBI would be a mighty fine contribution, for crying out loud.
So can we show the man a little respect and root for him?
Onto other matters…. Willie Harris impressed me. I frankly don’t understand why he wasn’t brought up earlier, other than respect and patience in hoping Langerhans would get it together first. I like having him on the roster. I’ll take him over Craig Wilson right now, who I’m almost positive we’ll find out has been battling some nagging unmentioned injury soon enough.
But I guess we gotta keep Wilson around so Bobby can continue platooning at first, too.
Folks, remember Kelly Johnson when filling out your All-Star ballots. This guy deserves to be there as of right now. I think he, Chipper Jones, Brian McCann and Tim Hudson. I’m afraid KJ has tough competition with a handful of 2B having good starts, including one Marcus Giles, Kaz Matsui and Orlando Hudson. But he’s our guy, he’s doing damn well considering its a new position, and he missed a season.
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
I forgot.. mad props to Saltalamacchia and Renteria on gunning out Jayson Werth. That play ws simply amazing to watch in real-time; getting to see it again in slow-mo on ESPN was pretty special, too. But I miss having that game on TBS because their production staff just does a better job of seeing such an amazing play like that from more than one angle. Jarrod’s throw was damn fine, but Renteria’s handling of the throw and the tag was just as amazing.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
‘Ol Roachey is still struggling:
Adam Bomb
By Bob, journalist
May 3, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
The sad thing about rules is that them what will abide by ‘em don’t need ‘em and them that do, won’t!
Still, it would be refreshing if folks would think before they speak and show each other more common courtesy and respect … Mama didn’t like to spend a dollar when a penny would do … she just said “always try to be nice!”
To see folks so inseccure and preoccupied with self; proclaiming their own qualities while denouncing the limitations of others is distrubing … methinks the inability to constructively contribute and effectively compete it at the heart of the problem … it destroys one’s self esteem and results in the loss of dignity and the prostitution of one’s soul.
Mayybe that’s what makes Bobby Cox such a successful manager … he evidently makes a special effort to make all the players feel that they can contribute and compete.
In professional sport, you can’t normally select your competition … you pays your money and takes your chances; or your sponsor so does … however, here on the Blog, you do have that opportunity. If winning is your objective, engage those who tell you how smart and accomplished they are and you’ll probably have a very high success rate … if you’re interested in a meaningful exchange of conflicting opinions and ideas, avoid them like the plague.
Everyone likes to win but don’t you enjoy those players who really seem to get a kick out of just playing the game? Most young kids have it when they first arrive … only a few seem to retain it throughout their careers. They’re special!
I, like some of the players need an off day to rest!
Selah
By Lee
May 3, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
KC - Yeah Salty is a monster. Sure hope the Braves keep this guy - I got a gut feeling - maybe a Carlton Fisk type with a better arm but I don’t know - good offers will come for this kid.
ESPN was blocked out in my area - Sports South on Dish Network does a good coverage too - show the replays over and over. You are right Ron Roberts - Renteria deserves credit for that play also.
By KC
May 3, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
May I take this opportunity to point out the following about Willie Harris…
First of all, in the patting-myself-on-the-back department… I’ve been saying for almost 2 weeks that the Braves needed to call up Willie Harris. In fact, I adamantly believed he should have been on team from day-1 as a utility guy. For that, I was criticized by Rory and others who said Harris wasn’t as good as Pete Orr, Chris Woodward, or Ryan Langerhans.
ATTENTION HARRIS-HATERS (and you know who you are)… what do you think now?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect this guy to hit .300 or even .280. He’s not a great hitter, but it seems apparent to me after just a few games that he will be an asset, and not a liability, to this team. He can play 4 or 5 positions well. He plays flat-out-110%. And of course, he can run like hell.
Having stated that he’s not a great hitter, I would like to point out 2 things:
First, the only season in his career in which he was given the opportunity to play at least every other day (409 at-bats in 2004), he hit .262 with a .343 on-base%. Not great, but certainly not shameful.
Second, while he’s not a great hitter by any stretch, he may be an improved hitter. The Braves encouraged Harris to make some changes to his set-up at the plate (I think that happened back in the Spring), and he’s been seeing and hitting the ball extremely well since that time. One thing you’ve got to like is that he’s hitting the ball on the ground. For a guy with that much speed… that’s what you want to see.
As previously stated… I don’t expect him to hit for a very high average, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he hit .270 and stole 25-30 bases this year as a platoon player. I’m not predicting that will happen, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all. He may not be a great everyday player, but I think he will still prove to be an asset.
By Bigboi
May 3, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Boyz, I think we might just have a keeper in left field. Willie Harris looks great at the plate and I’m sure he’ll continue to get better in left field.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Shaun, he gives the team a chance and I’m not saying get rid of him or anything close to it. But if this team is aspiring for a division title or a World Series title, you need a helluva lot more from a #3 than he is giving us right now. He’s killing the pen.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
KC,
Well, regardless of what he does, he is certainly an offense upgrade over Langy.
Regards,
Jason
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
Hard to believe that Laroche has been worse than Redman
By Richard Cory
May 3, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Folks, I hate to rain on the parade, but something must be done. I went to CBS Sportsline and looked at the stats for the Bravos, and my, oh my, do you realize that Salty is hitting less than Langerhans hit!!! How long can we tolerate this???
By Hunter
May 3, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Well, after seeing Salty behind the plate last night it looks like he belongs there. I thought he wouldn’t be as impressive but with the catch and throw he made and just the way he looks back there, I hope for his sake that he stays there….
FOR SALE 22 year old switch hitting catcher. 6’4” and 230 pounds, could be franchise type player. Projects to be a .300/30/100 hitter all-star. Comes complete with winning smile, curly hair, and canon for an arm. Asking for established, left handed power arms in return. Will send stats/pics if needed. Contact JS at 1 Hank Aaron Drive Atlanta, GA. Thanks.
By avlbrv
May 3, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Mets Fan, Your still in second place dip stick. Records are the same but we have the head to head advantage. Damn retard!
After reading his posts, I agree, Mets Fan is a dip stick and a damn retard.
I think Andruw is the best center fielder ever, but seeing him spin into the dirt at the plate, like Bugs Bunny in one of his baseball cartoons, makes me cringe. Yes, he produces runs and is in the top whatever in the offensive categories. I guess I’d like to see him take the same easy approach with his swings as he does his demeanor.
Salty looks great, but what do we do with two great catchers? Maybe Salty is ready, and if it’s another year or two, what happens to MAC then? It would be real tough for me to decide which one to keep. I can’t see either of them changing positions.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
KC,
Harris has only played in 3 games so far. Don’t gloat quite yet. He’s better than Pete Orr but not by much. Harris, Orr and Woodward are all fringe-type players. Not saying they’re not useful, but there nothing more than fringe players.
That .343 on-base percentage when he played in 129 games was 2004. He was 26. He’s now 29. I look for his numbers to be closer to his career averages: .240 AVG/ .308 OBP/ .295 SLG; not God awful but he certainly shouldn’t be used on a regular basis.
Not saying it was a bad trade but I’d be very surprised if Harris’s numbers are better than Langerhans’s by season’s end.
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
Guys, a department stoer mannequin would be an offensive upgrade over Langy.
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
KC,
Thats a little much on Willie Harris. To more impotant things. Chuck James didn’t pitch well last night. I don’t car if he went 5 innings without giving up a run. We need more from this guy. 81 pitches through 4 innings is terrible. He can’t finish guys off early in the count. He goes full to everyone, even the 8th place hitter, and pitcher. Projected August rotations:
Mets
Martinez Glavine Hernandez Maine Perez
Braves
Smoltz Hudson James Cormier Villareal
Need I say more……
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Ron Roberts: I can’t speak for the rest of the make-room-for-Salty crowd… but I’m in no terrible rush.
Certainly for at least the rest of this year, we’re fine with things as they are currently configured (Thorman/Wilson at 1b, Harris/Diaz in LF, and of course, McCann at C). We don’t need to make room for him right this instant… but we will have to make room for him soon (probably next year) if we don’t trade him.
The only way the Braves will trade him is if they get good young starting pitching talent in return… or for someone like Carl Crawford, which is unlikely. So if JS doesn’t receive a worthy offer (with the standards likely being pretty high) for Salty by this time next year… what do you do?
I’m might get some violent reactions to this suggestion, but I’ll tell you, IF the Braves don’t trade Salty within the next year… I believe they need to at least think about moving McCann to 1B and putting Salty behind the plate. I don’t necessarily think they should do it, but I do think they should seriously consider it if Salty’s still here in a year. I say this for 2 reasons:
First, as previously mentioned… Salty has a cannon for an arm, and it appears accurate as well. I’d bet money that he would instantly be one of the toughest catchers to run on in the majors.
Second, McCann is of the finest young hitters in the game. While it’s wonderful and rare to have that much offense from your catcher, it makes me just a little bit nervous. As long as he’s catching, there are going to be stretches where we’re without his bat do to things like what just happened to his hand… as well as the regular days off. And obviously, catching is the most dangerous position on the diamond. Remember how McCann got the opportunity to play here in the first place? What if something like what happened to Estrada, happened to McCann? A move to first base would help keep McCann’s incredibly valuable bat in the lineup, and it would likely lengthen his career.
Again, I’m not saying they should do that, but if Salty remains a Brave, I think they should give it some real thought.
By Fed Up
May 3, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
It’s clear that Salty’s future does not lie with Atlanta. Mark my words, he will be moved mid-season for a soon-to-be-free-agent starting pitcher. As for James, everyone says how much he reminds them of Glavine. Absolutely right, he walks a lot of guys because he’s trying to expand that outside corner. Remember, Glavine always played with two infields when the ump didn’t give him the calls. The same is true for James. I think he’s going to be very successful, but he’s never going to be a guy who doesn’t walk hitters.
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
JasonInMaine: FO-SHO!
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets,
What did the Cardinals’ third-best starter do last season?
Their third-best in ERA was Anthony Reyes at 5.06.
The Mets won the most games in the league basically without a solid number three guy for most of the season.
Chuck James is as good as most third-best starters in the league. The Braves offense is more than adequate to get them to the post-season if the pitching is mostly healthy. There are a lot of guys I’m more worried about than Chuck James.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
avlbrv,
The Braves will trade Salty by the beginning of next season for a nice package of players. That’s my prediction.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Shaun - I agree Harris will probably be platooned with Diaz - keep him any day over Orr or Woodward though. But Langerhans season numbers may be over in a couple of weeks at the rate he is going.
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Shaun: My “gloating” has to do with assertions that he’s not good enough to be on a major league roster, that we wouldn’t help this team in any way, and that he’s not as good as Pete Orr or Ryan Langerhans.
Even after only 3 games, I’m confident enough to declare that those people were wrong.
Now, as I tried to clarify about a half-dozen times in my previous post… I have no grandiose expectations for Willie Harris. It wouldn’t surprise me if he winds up being productive as a platoon player, but I’m not holding my breath.
I just believe he’s at least as good a hitter as Orr or Woodward, and I think there are other things Willie brings to the table that those guys don’t. As such, I think he’s an asset to the team, even if his role winds up being little more than Pete Orr’s.
By CC Rider
May 3, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
I would like to think the Braves could figure this out without help, but just in case. The Braves don’t need to trade Salty for anyone. The answer is clear, after this season is over they sit down with McCann and Salty to explain the sense of them both working on learning 1st base in the off season so they can share both 1st base and the catcher position. The dual role for both would add years to their careers by not taking the abuse of catching 140 games a year. They would both be fresher behind the plate and at the plate batting. Thorman would become more than adequate in left with more tutoring and practice. The Braves can make Lillibridge a super utility player who can be a late inning defensive sub for Thorman. THe Braves would have a young core group better than any in baseball. C-McCann, 1st-Salty, 2nd-Johnson, SOON-SS Escobar, For the Near future 3rd-Chipper, Lf-Thorman, CF-Andruw(yes I think he will resign),RF-Francouer.WOW Our AA minor league staff is just a year or 2 away, the bullpen, other than Wickman, is young and deep. FOLKS we just need a little extra money for Andruw and a Pitcher or 2 to step up and its 1995 again.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Fed Up,
Salty’s too valuable to trade for a soon-to-be free agent pitcher unless it is a dominant pitcher, and I don’t see a team trading one of those.
He’ll go for at least one very good prospect and some good major league players.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
If the pen gets destroyed by July because the pen is overused because the #3, #4, and #5 can’t go more than 5 innings, this team is going nowhere. Hell, Wickman is already on the DL. Could it be that he was so overused early in the season? As for the Cards last year, that was a fluky very down year for baseball last year. Normally, you need a #3 who pitches a little better than James has so far and who also get you into the seventh inning. We’re not seeing that. The point is to win it all, Shaun. Not to just get there. We did that for years and years and years and frankly we got a little sick of it.
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
INGROWN TOENAIL HOBBLES REDMAN
LOL… “Ingrown toenail”… GOOD ONE, JS!!!
Hey, whatever it takes to get him out of the rotation!! I think they’re using this as an opportunity to find something better from AA or AAA. If one of these guys comes up and has a couple good outings, Redman will be gone. Unless of course Davies looks worse than Redman… in which case, Redman might get a couple more opportunities. Let’s hope not.
By flange1
May 3, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
KC,
I tend to agree with you. I think McCann is too good of a hitter to have him be away from the lineup because of injury. I think he will be a Mark Grace kind of hitter with way more power. Putting him at first will extend his career and let him HIT HIT HIT.
Salty looks like a prize. In hearing DOB and the Braves talk about not moving him from catcher, we either have to trade him or move McCann. If we trade him, we need a heck of an arm in return…
By Lew
May 3, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
KC-What do I think of Harris? As long as he wears a Braves’ uniform, I will cheer for him to be the second coming of Jackie Robinson, though I know he will never come close. Too bad you didn’t act similarly towards Langerhans.
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
I disagree with those who assess Chuck James’ performance last night as bad. He made one bad pitch, really. He didn’t have his best stuff, but until he gave up the dinger to Ryan Howard, I think he did pitch well. I can’t quibble with his results, really. If your starter goes 6 and only gives up 3, you’re in the game. For a third starter, what more can you ask for in this day and age?
I think any talk of McCann being moved or Saltalamacchia being in the bigs permanently or being moved, himself, are premature. He’s a good guy to call up if we have to, and it’s rare that you’d have to. How many times do both team’s catchers get hurt in a single game like that?
If we’re gonna display Saltalamacchia for possible trade bait, I’d like to see us get a stud starting pitcher who’s either about to be called up or already is. Only other thing I’d consider is a young power-hitting outfielder in case Andruw’s gone next season. I think those are the two options that have to be top-of-mind for the Braves’ brass. Anything else, position-wise, wouldn’t be worth our while.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Avibrv-I think the Braves’ made the choice when they signed McCann to a 7 year contract extension. Salty represents a good pitcher in return-that’s all. There’s just no place for him to play and it should be obvious by now that his position will not be changed. He should, however, bring a stud pitcher in return.
By Matthew, Dad to Walter
May 3, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
JJS: Thanks for the warning, but I’m getting better so I’ll save that remedy for next time.
To the Met fan who gave us the wonderful sarcasm earlier regarding the Mets being the best, I have a stat to add to your list:
2007 STANDINGS
National League East
Team W L PCT GB Atlanta 17 10 .630 - NY Mets 16 10 .615 0.5 Florida 13 14 .481 4.0 Philadelphia 12 15 .444 5.0 Washington 9 19 .321 8.5
By Jersey Gil
May 3, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
DOB…It true that JS telephone was ringing out the hook after the game last night?….Also the Philadelphia team try to trade the whole team for Salty last night…He look good…his at bat was a good as advertised. i have to listen to those philys anouncer instead of the Braves, the ESPN and the Indemand was block Again in this Area (S.jersey). Harry K can’t pronounce Salty name, was very funny.
By DAP
May 3, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
i just read that miguel cabrera had a long conversation yesterday on the field with omar minaya. the marlins arent happy about it, since apparently cabrera is approaching free agency.
can you imagine if the mets had cabrera to? i imagine they would put him in left field…what a lineup.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Lee,
It is still early. I still think it’s unlikely that Langerhans will be this bad all season.
KC,
Can’t argue with you that Harris is better than Orr and at least as good as Woodward. And he will be valuable if he’s used like Orr has been.
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets,
If the Braves get into the post-season, they’ve got as good a shot as anyone this season.
Something else to keep in mind: James is still very young and it’s early in the season. James is probably one of the guys they don’t want to go too deep in ball games.
Your points are valid but I don’t think Chuck James is going to cost the Braves a chance to win the World Series.
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
I don’t know if you guys realize this, but just because Salty threw out ONE baserunner doesn’t make him a great catcher. Read any of his scouting reports, he is not that great at calling games.
I don’t think either will move to first, but if by some chance they do, it will most certainly not be McCann. He did just sign that extension, remember. They aren’t just going to move him to another possition after praising his catching ability and work ethic at the possition. That makes absolutely no sense.
And another thing. I do agree that I think that Salty is going to be a stud. Most of us are in agreement with that. Folks, he has played ONE GAME Lets not roll out the red carpet just yet. He’s only 22. He has not practiced any other possition other than cather and we do have Brian McCann (who isn’t that bad, remember) at catcher now.
Someone mentioned this earlier, but remember Marte? Aren’t you glad that we didn’t move Chipper to first three years ago and give Marte the starting job at third? This is the same kind of thing. Just give it time…
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
I tell ya one (of many) good reasons why you don’t trade Brian McCann…
…he and Jeff Francoeur being as close buddies as they are is just too good a marketing tool, story, and positive for team chemistry. There’s something to be said for that.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets,
Hudson and Smoltz are the guys that need to go deep in the game. And I would say they need a number five guy that can just give them a lot of decent innings. (Could Esteban Loaiza be the player to be named later in the Langerhans deal if his rehab goes well?)
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Efrim: As much as it pains me to admit it… with the way O.Perez and especially El duque and Maine have been throwing the ball this year, and the way the bottom of our rotation looks right now… 1-5, I think the Mets rotation looks better right now.
However, James is going to be fine. He regularly got us into the 7th inning last year. He’s struggle a bit early on, but his last start in Colorado was much better than the box score will show, and let me make this very clear…
That Howard homerun in the 6th should be charged to Bobby Cox, not Chuck James!!!!
Before Howard hit that shot, I was voicing my disbelief that BC chose to pitch to him. I mean… You had a tired pitcher, 2 runners on, and first base open with Ryan Howard at the plate. It’s a no-brainer. I was astounded when they didn’t put Howard on, and extremely pi$$ed off afterward.
I like Bobby Cox, but that was the bone-headed play of the week. Too bad managers can’t get charged with errors, because they make them just like players do.
Anyway, back to James… he’s been getting into a lot of deep counts, which drives his pitch count up, and leaves him unable to pitch deep into ballgames. Mark Lemke feels James isn’t getting the same calls on the corner that he got last year. I don’t know if that’s the case, or if his command’s just not as crisp yet (or both). But he’ll be fine. Again, flyballs were NOT a problem for him last night (as they never are when he’s on his game) until BC had him pitch to Howard when he was dead tired and had just given up 2 line-drives.
Right now, James is reaching 100 pitches in the 6th inning every night out. That won’t continue to be the case. He’ll probably never be a 220 inning guy, but I have no doubt that he’ll start getting the Braves into the 7th with regularity, just as he did last year. And he’ll finish with a good ERA… probably under 4.00.
By avlbrv
May 3, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
Shaun, Not sure if I see that happening so early. I would expect the Braves to at least use him in a back-up role next year before trading him. Or, as another poster…uh, posted…pull the Estrada thing and trade McCann. Would hate to see either of them go and I kind of like the idea of McCann at first, but really don’t see it happening so early in his career, if it happens at all.
By Epinephrine
May 3, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
KC, I completely agree with you. I think I want McCann at first base, mostly because it kills me when his bat is not in this lineup. He is too good to be missing as many games as he does, and I worry about the wear and tear he takes behind the plate.
Also, the idea of trading someone with as much talent as Salty makes me nervous as hell. I see no reason to trade a guy that is cheap and whose ceiling is extremely high.
My only problem is that I am starting to like Thorman. Maybe we could move him to left field, but then the slowness of this team would reach epic proportions.
By avlbrv
May 3, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Lew, Agreed, we should get some kind of stud in return for Salty. Hopefully it will be a proven stud and one to fill a hole, like the rotation, or maybe left?
By KC
May 3, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
LEW: I pulled for Langerhans every time he came up to the plate. In fact… I’m still pulling for Langerhans. As a Brave, I wanted him to succeed, but as (apparently) a very good guy, I’d still like to see him succeed. But the reality was just the reality. He was hurting the team. I wished it weren’t so, but it was.
I wish Langerhans the best of luck. Always have.
By DAP
May 3, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
meansonny, until he fixes the swing…i may mention every now and then, yes.
that alright with you?
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Barrett,
I agree that it’s only one game and folks shouldn’t judge him on that but from everything I’ve read Saltalamacchia is a fine defensive catcher. McCann is also a great defensive catcher, as you say. Both are catchers.
That’s why I think they’ll move Saltalamacchia for a good package of players. If the Braves play their Cards right, they’ll get more value from Salty by trading him rather than moving him to another position.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
I have suggested this before and I know people think this is crazy. But why not have them do half the games at catcher and half the games at first? Alternate the two of them. Save their legs. Keep them fresh. They are assigned two pitchers each and alternate the fifth pitcher. Sounds crazy. Never been done before. But have their been two catching talents on the same team like this before? I can remember Benito Santiago and Sandy Alomar with the Padres 20 years ago. BUT not everything needs to be done just because that is the way things have always been done. Sometimes a little innovation can enhance the performance of the two players by keeping them fresh, give them more utility by giving them somewhere to play when they are not catching in the NL, and extend their careers at such a demanding position like catcher.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
avlbrv,
McCann’s not going anywhere. And I think how soon they trade Salty depends on what they’re offered. I’m sure they’re in no hurry.
Also, I don’t think they’ll hinder his development by keeping him in the majors as a backup.
I think several teams will want him if they don’t already and they can use a bidding war to get the right package of players for him.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
KC-Bull, Dude. You ripped Langerhans at every oppurtunity, to the point where I thought you had been possessed by an evil entity (still not sure you haven’t been). He hurt the Braves? They were 10-2 with him in the lineup. That’s all I have to say other than to hope he doesn’t rip us a new one when we play the Nats. DAP-You are aware that this is Cabrera’s 5th year in the bigs? He is not eligible for free agency until after 08-almost two years. He can talk to whomever he wants to.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
That Howard homerun in the 6th should be charged to Bobby Cox, not Chuck James!!!!
No. Not exactly. If I was Bobby Cox and you said that to me, I think I would tell you that if that kid can’t get me to the sixth as he really hasn’t all year, then that is his fault, not the manager.
No one cut Hudson slack for his struggles in the fifth and sixth innings. No one should cut James any slack either.
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
So, one day after Redman releases his biggest S#!7-bomb of the season, he gets DL-ed because his “Sergeant Hulka” is bothering him.
Journalist Jimmy, you’re right. Maybe Craig Wilson and Chris Woodward should be checked for “Hulka” issues.
Somebody else mentioned it earlier, but How ‘bout the sliding catch and tag by Renteria on the Salty throw. Man that was a sweet play all around.
By fastasballs
May 3, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
I don’t see Salty traded, at least not this year. He sure and hell won’t be traded for some rental pitcher. Look what we got for Marte, Salty would command much more.
He is great insurance if one of the catchers goes down for an extended period or the season.
The only way I see him traded this year is if JS is knocked out of his seat with an offer.
I really like the makings of this team for the next few years. I think the youth movement is on but not a wholesale sell out like the Marlins. The minors seemed stacked with players who will be here in the next two years or traded for needs.
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Ricahrd Cory:
Salty has two official at bats. Not 50. Just because he got out two times doesn’t mean anything. Just think of it this way. He does have a .500 OBP.
Basically, comparing Salty to Langerhans is just dumb. Please read into stats more and notice that a .000 AVG isn’t that bad when you only have two AB’s but a .044 AVG in 50 Ab’s is horrible. That’s the difference
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets,
I think alternating them between 1B and C will likely hinder both their offensive and defensive skills. Or just the fact that it could hurt them is why the Braves (or other teams) wouldn’t try it.
By Zach
May 3, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
There has got be somebody better in AAA than Redman, at least let a young guy get experience while losing. We would not be taking a step back. Also, the only bad news about Salty is that he hits lefty. If he was a right then he would probably replace Pena
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
KC… Ryan was 0-for-his career against Chuck James (I think it was 0-for-12) going into that at-bat, and there were no outs. Ryan looked clueless before that at-bat. I don’t fault Cox for pitching to him, there.
By Martin
May 3, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
No one’s going to like this idea, but I think it would be smart. We should think about seeing what we could get for Johnson right now. He’s off to an incredible start, I bet we could get a 4th or 5th starter for him. A real quality arm. Johnson’s never going to be worth more than he is right now, and we have a lot of guys who play that position.
Sell high. It’s how people/teams find success.
It won’t happen though because he is becoming a favorite of the fans. Too bad, because it would be the smart thing to do.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
who could the braves trade salty for? Trading for a good established pitcher means you would have to pay that pitcher and with the restricted budget of our beloved discontinued operations, how do you make that happen by trading a rookie like salty who is not making anything?
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
fastasballs,
I agree. I think it’s more likely Salty gets traded in the offseason. I think the Braves probably want as many teams possible involved in a “bidding” war for Salty. You never know when they are going to get the offer they can’t refuse.
And I agree. Youth movement reminds me of ‘93-‘95: Chipper, Javy, Klesko.
By Rodger
May 3, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Loved watching the replay last night of Salty’s wife on his first AB-she jumps up and screams “Oh $hit!!” Priceless!
Langy’s trade to the Gnats gives Redman the opportunity for the “situational lefty” in the pen…who would win that matchup?
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Shaun: You’re right. Alternating them at first and catcher does not make any sense and may be detrimental but it sure as hell works well on my XBOX.
Also looks like you may have been right about Crisp and Damon:
Crisp: .250, .293, .355
Damon: .229, .349, .329
They look like they both suck but at least Crisp is more inexpensive stink bomb.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Epinephrine - You made a good point about the slowness of this team if all of this is done. McCann is not going to 1st and Salty as catcher and Thorman to leftfield. Talk about home runs as the only run producer - there would only be 2 options with the team - a home run or a double play ball. Lew you are right trade him for a stud pitcher, the only trouble with that is most teams are not willing to give up their prize stud pitcher for a promising young catcher.
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Shuan,
I’m glad to see someone on the same page as I am. I didn’t mean to seem like I don’t think Salty is a good catcher. I do think he is a good defensive catcher. He is just not as good as McCann. That is a knock on Salty is his game calling. I din’t mean his defense. Sorry if I typed it wrong. McCann is praised for his game calling.
… I really like this kind of Blog. People actually talk about opinions that actually matter about baseball. This is how a blog should be. It shouldn’t be about the race of a particular player or how the Mets are always going to beat the braves (even though most of us realistic baseball fans know, it takes more that a good team on paper to win.)No name calling(atleast not that much), not as much Cox bashing. Just baseball talk. Good stuff guys. Good stuff….
By Bigboi
May 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
I say make Willie Harris your everyday left field, did you guys see that game winning RBI last night? those are the kind of things he brings to the table. GO Willie!!!!!
By KC
May 3, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Lew: First of all, don’t give me that 10-2 crap. The Braves won in spite of Langerhans, and you know it.
As for the rest of it… yes, I was pi$$ed that Langerhans was in the lineup almost everyday, and I ripped Langerhans frequently, primarily as a means of letting off steam. But it was never personal. I would have loved to see him prove me wrong and go on tear. I would still love to see him prove me wrong and make a great career for himself.
I wasn’t mad at Langerhans. I know full well that he was trying his hardest… but to be frank, he sucked, and I said so with increasing regularity, the longer Bobby left him in the lineup. Now that he’s no longer hurting the Braves, I hope he gets plenty of playing time and makes the most of it. Good luck to him.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Trade Kelly Johnson for a 4th or 5th starter?!?!?!? Geez, and I thought my idea of alternating Salty and McCann at catcher and at first was really stupid and crazy. KJ is the engine driving this offensive machine.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Lew,
Actually, per the MLB office, it is tampering:
” Per Major League Baseball directive, it was tampering. Was Minaya recruiting Cabrera, a free agent after the 2009 season? Of course not, but the subject matter is irrelevant.
MLB prohibits fraternizing among players when they are in uniform.”
So, while Cabrera can certainly “talk to whoever he wants”, GMs and executives from other teams should not be seeking to talk to players on the field. So, he really isn’t free to talk to whoever he wants while he is in uniform and on the field.
Regards,
Jason
By Lee
May 3, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Rodger Waiting to see who would bring Salty’s wife up on this BLOG…….. You the man………..
By Lew
May 3, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Discontinued Dude-The difference between James and Hudson is that Huddy was supposed to be our “Ace”, with a number of productive years on his resume. Chuckie is a second year pitcher, who should be a #4 starter at best, who has been tossed into the third spot due to injuries. Cut the kid some slack. He kept us in the game-and has for most of his starts. Another point, Dude-We can’t keep switching our player’s positions. It makes no sense. Just because the switch to second has worked for KJ, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Not just you, but there have been calls for everyone from Chipper, McCann, Salty, Thorman, etc. to change positions. Look at the Chipper experiment (MIke Piazza, too with first base). It doesn’t always work and can have profound effects on a player, like Chipper’s hamstring problems.
By avlbrv
May 3, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Shaun, I hope he’s not going anywhere, but I can’t forget about the other guy I thought would never go anywhere, Galvin..Gulvar..oh, yea, Glavine. I see your point though, and I just realized, as someone posted, that Salty is also a lefty, so him ever backing up seems less likely. One thing is for sure, it’s nice to have the problem of too much talent than too little.
By Renegator
May 3, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
It sucks to get all excited about Salty’s potential when you know he is just going to be traded.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
Will Langerhans end the year with more trades than hits? It’s getting very close.
By Bob, journalist
May 3, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe the AJC Salty Pole … over 40% responding “Absolutely, he’s not going back down” to the question “Will Salty stick with the Braves”?
You can’t help but like him and it would be great to see him make his mark, regardless of the resulting dilemma … but unless McCann’s injury turns out to be disabling, such instant success will only increase the probablity that he won’t be playing in Atlanta except as the member of a visiting team.
Of course, he could serve as the backup and catch every fifth day … and I’m not totally convinced that he doesn’t have the speed to play in the outfield where getting the proper jump on the ball is probably more important than pure speed.
Unless Thorman falters, the notion that efforts will be made to move existing players to the right corner of the infield doesn’t merit serious consideration. Were the Braves so inclined, methinks we would have seen greater evidence before this juncture.
However, with such high visability and instant popularity … it might be a tough marketing decision to trade him at this point, regardless of the current pitching situation … but where does his future lie? Maybe he can pitch!
It was bemusing when McCann was signed to a long term contract so long before such a decision had to be made … perhaps when you couple Salty’s 2006 lack of progress with either/both the need to send a message to Frenchy and/or to lay the foundation for being unable to agressively pursue Andruw, it makes some sense … but the bottom line appears to be that he is considered expendable.
By KC
May 3, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
Ron Roberts: Under normal circumstances, I might agree with you. But it wasn’t just the fact that first base was open. You also have to consider that he was over 100 pitches, and had just given up 2 solid hits on pitches he left up and out over the plate. He was obviously very tired.
An exhausted flyball pitcher throwing to Ryan Howard with 2 runners on and 1B open. It seemed like a pretty bad formula to me at the time, and obviously it was.
Epinephrine: I’m not sure that I want McCann to move to 1B, but if Salty’s still here in a year, I think they have to consider it.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Jason-When did you ever see the fraternizing rule enforced? Never, because it is an absurd rule. As long as he has two years or more before free agency, there is little chance of tampering. Besides, look at Carlos Zambrano and the Mets earlier this year. He expressed interest in playing for them while negotiating with the Cubs-during the season. It didn’t even ring anyone’s radar. Neither should this instance. They were probably asking about the wife and kids. Big deal. I’d worry if it was his agent talking to Minaya.
By NationalLeagueEast
May 3, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Just curious….why does everyone on this board think that “Salty” is going to be traded for a PACKAGE of players, or a FRONT-LINE starter? The guy has played ONE game in the major leagues. One. Get real. I know catching is at a premium, but you’d do well to get another high-level prospect for him at this point in his career.
By NO CHOP ZONE
May 3, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
I tight race so far. May will be interesting. How does each team handle injuries. Who has a deeper bench and farm system will definitly factor into things. I think all the Mets have to do is stay within reach of the division until the all-star break. By then Pedro and Sanchez should be back. I feel that they both will contribute down the strech it will be the differnce that wins the Division the Mets……..Ta Ta
By geauxbraves2000
May 3, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Hey, maybe Salty could pitch and all of the problems would be solved!
Okay, just kidding.
Geaux Braves!!
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Langy’s trade sets up the ultimate fantasy match up
What happens when the unmissable ball is hurled at the unhittable bat?
Redman v. Langerhans
Coming Summer 2007.
By KC
May 3, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Renagator: Lew and others who have said so are correct… Salty should and will only be traded for a good young starting pitcher. Be it a good young starter already at the ML level, or a great starting pitching prospect that’s relatively close to being big-league ready. Again, the only exception being if they could get a Carl Crawford or someone like that.
Since it’s hard to imagine any team giving up a top-flight young pitcher… it’s difficult for me to imagine Salty being traded. But of course, something will have to give. Not this year necessarily, but if Salty’s not already ready for prime time… he will be very, very soon.
By GT80
May 3, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Having an all-star catcher already on the team and a potential superstar catcher in the minors banging to be in the bigs is a good problem to have. i agree, Salty looks to be a stud. Every at bat he looked like he knew what he was doing. Like I said, it’s a good problem to have and thankfully something doesn’t need to be done right away. As soon as Pena and/or McCann is OK Salty will go back to the minors to continue to play everyday.
I think Thor is coming around at 1st and hopefully Bobby will start giving him starts against lefty’s. He also looks like he’s got a good idea of what he wants to do on every at bat.
And now about left field…sometimes you get a kid who isn’t a big stud, but he is a scrappy player and he just loves the fact that he’s playing for his favorite childhood team. He gets his chance in the bigs, makes the most of it and becomes an integral part of team that has a special season. I just get the sense that Willie C. Harris is this kind of kid.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
“Kelly Johnson has played second base as well as anybody I’ve ever seen,” Braves manager Bobby Cox said. “That includes [Bill] Mazeroski, [Mark] Lemke, [Glenn] Hubbard — all those guys. He’s played that well.”
WHOA! Take it easy Bobby!
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
It’s unethical Lew.
By fastasballs
May 3, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
I guess we will get a good indicator of Salty’s game calling abilities on Friday with Smoltz on the mound. Smoltz & McCann are almost always on the same page, very few shake offs by Smoltz when he’s catching.
I think JS waits to trade Salty until the off season because of Andruw. Him staying or going may dictate what is needed in return for Salty. I’m sure there are a ton of other variables that I am not considering at the moment, but as someone stated too much talent is a good problem to have.
By Michael Procton
May 3, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
I like most of the stuff on here, but for you people making fun of Redman, you must never have had an ingrown toenail before. I had chronic issues with mine, and it hurts to WALK, much less support your body weight through the violent motion that is the pitcher’s delivery. No laughing matter, I promise. This might not be the answer to Red’s problems, but it certainly wasn’t helping him, I can guarantee you that.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Trade Salty for Harden or one of those A’s pitchers.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Tom Brady ticking off Boston:
http://news.bostonherald.com/galleries/?title=PrintEditionNews
Chipper may be a Gators fan but at least he has had the decency so far not sport a Gators cap on the cover of the AJC.
By Fred from CT
May 3, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
NationalLeagueEast
A young switch hitting catcher with a lot of power and good behind the plate has a lot of value. Do you watch baseball? you don’t think that there are teams that wouldn’t want this kid as the face of there franchise. get a clue
By KC
May 3, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
NLEast:
I don’t think he’s going to be traded for an established front-line starter… unless it’s one that’s about to be a free agent or that sort of thing. As for a “package of players”… it all depends on what kind of players would be in the package.
Aside from Francoeur (McCann wasn’t considered a huge prospect when he was coming up), Salty is the biggest prospect the Braves have had in years.
Of course, even sure-fire prospects are never turly sure-fire, and some mis-fire… but he looks as good as any phenom the Braves have had in a long time.
Most scouts believe he’ll hit 30 dingers a year from behind home plate, and that arm of his is special.
THAT’S why people are so big on his trade value… because it looks pretty damn significant right now.
By NO CHOP ZONE
May 3, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
I agree with Lew’s last post (I can’t believe I just wrote that). Does MLB actualy think he was negotiating a deal in full view of everyone and just before a game…..be serious.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
NLEast-No one said anything about a frontline pitcher. We couldn’t afford the salary, anyway. However, a good young pitching prospect, with lots of upside-Just Like Salty-is hardly out of the question. The Mets should be interested, too, though they don’t have the pitching we would require. LoDuca will not last past his current contract with the Mets.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Of course he wasn’t negotiating a deal in front of everyone. That’s not the point. Lew, it isn’t tampering if it is the player making the comments. The tampering rule is in place for execs of other teams. Players can say whatever they want to. Now, if Minaya had said that his team was looking strongly at signing Zambrano and that they were very interested in him or contacted his agent…guess what, tampering.
Regards,
Jason
By ssiscribe
May 3, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
I’ve got to quit trying to do math, plain and simple.
17 x 6 = 102, not 112.
You get the point. Braves are playing well, and I suck at math.
Off to lunch. The Scribe abides.
—30—
By Lew
May 3, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Discontinued Dude-Since when has being unethical been a problem in MLB, orpro sports in general? Outrageous salaries, huge ticket prices, Steroids, Gambling, Greenies-or for that matter, inventing injuries and putting players with no options on the DL (and NO I’m not saying that’s what the Braves have done with Redman), etc., are or have been commonplace. Talking to Minaya with two or more years left on his contract hardly rates a 1 on the Richter Scale of unethical behavior.
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Salty won’t be here in a year. He will be on his way to Detroit, Yankees, or the other 10 teams that need an offensive catcher such as him. OR WE COULD NOT TRADE HIM, put HIM at 1st base, and continue to have a great offense. Oh yea….we have no stud pitching prospects. None of which project to a #1 or #2 starter. Thats what we need folks. Use Salty in a trade to acquire a young pitcher. DAN HAREN ANYONE??????
By Lew
May 3, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
ChopZone-I can’t believe you wrote it either. I guess I’ll have to acknowledge it, though. I will give you no grief for at least the next hour.
By Adam
May 3, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
A good deal for Salty would be sending him to KC for Grenke. You know Dayton knows how good Salty is, and Grenke would be a great fit for the Braves. It makes sense.
By ncscoots
May 3, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Grinch, that’s an interesting take on Salty re your 1:54AM, and I’m always inclined to respect your eyeball judgment. The funny thing? I’ve seen the guy live in two series the last two years (7 games, not much of a sample, I know) in A and AA, and that vibe wasn’t there. He just seemed to be a good, solid prospect, but no visible cape. Last night, though, that sucker looked READY, even on TV. Success or failure aside, he seems to have matured a lot.
By Chad
May 3, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
I just don’t know what to think about trading/not trading Salty. I think he is ML ready or very close to it though. McCann is our catcher right now and I just don’t see JS and BC moving him to another position because all the pitchers love the way he calls a game. They both have a very bright future in this league. Before we trade him for a pitcher I would like to see some younger guys get a look first, I have been hearing good things about Dan Smith and Anthony Lerew. Oscar V should get a look too.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Efrim-No stud pitching prospects? What about Matt Harrison, JoJo Reyes and Dan Smith? Dude, you been paying attention lately? Didn’t we just have numerous discussions and a blog devoted to this very subject in the past few days?
By NationalLeagueEast
May 3, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Lew - I didn’tmean today. There were a few people yesterday or the other day talking about top of the line starters for Salty. Seems unrealistic to me.
By KC
May 3, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Lew: If the Braves had an opportunity to pick up a frontline starter that they wouldn’t have to ridiculously overpay (like Zito), I think they’d do it. If that meant conceding AJ’s departure to pay that pitcher. Atlanta has a ton of young offensive talent. They need another starter, preferably a young one.
Back on the Langerhans thing… To explain it another way… I wasn’t angry at Langerhans - I was angry about langerhans. Once again, good luck to him.
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Maybe we can get someone to really overpay for Salty. Does anyone remember the AJ Pierzynski trade from November 14, 2003?
“On that day, Brian Sabean dealt Boof Bonser, Francisco Liriano, and Joe Nathan to the Twins for A.J. Pierzynski and cash. A year later, the Giants would release Pierzynski.”
Wow, that’s gotta be one of the worst trades ever!
Regards,
Jason
By Lee
May 3, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Lew Please don’t suggest ot hint about a possible - trade,Mets and Salty in the same post again. The thought alone terrifies me.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Lew, No Chop is the only one agreeing with you. That should tell you all you need to know on your stance on this.
By A.J.
May 3, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
This Salty for Dan Haren talk is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. No WAY we could get Haren for Salty straight up. We probably couldn’t get Haren for Salty, Escobar and another prospect.
Why? Because Haren won’t be eligible for free agency until after 2008 I believe.
And Billy Beane holds on to players until they are. He’s not going to trade a sure thing for two probablies.
The other reason? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE STUPID OF HIM. Haren could be a Cy Young guy in the next couple years.
We could probably trade two or three prospects of the Salty, Escobar level for Haren if he was about ready to make the big bucks, not that we could sign him then anyway.
The only way we’d ever be able to pry away Haren is if he was about to leave Oakland, otherwise do you really think Beane would let his only consistant starter go?
By JasonInMaine
May 3, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Harrison’s stats from last night as he moved to 4-0 on the young season:
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA 8.0 7 1 1 1 4 0 2.14
He’s off to a pretty good start…
By gotigers72
May 3, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Please don’t trade Salty. That throw to 2nd was a laser, and I think everyone believes the dude will hit. Find some kind of way to keep he and McCann. Someone suggested Thorman to left, McCann to first, Salty at catcher. Maybe somebody could teach McCann first base in the offseason the way Hubbard taught KJ 2nd base. That didn’t turn out too bad now did it?
By Fred from CT
May 3, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
JasonInMaine
Great point had to be one of the worst trades but it show that we could get a pitcher.
By Amber
May 3, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
What I would like to know is, how much longer do we have to put up with Craig Wilson? Hopefully Thorman will keep swinging the bat and work his way into an everyday position. A girl can dream…
By Lew
May 3, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Discontinued Dude-It really doesn’t matter to me, one way or another, if they nail them all for tampering. Just saying it won’t even cause a ripple. NL East-I agree it’s improbable to get a front line starter. KC-When Ted Lilly commands what he just got,not even being a front line starter, then there is no such thing as a cheap front line starter unless you can talk the Cubs out of Hill. Doubt THAT one’s going to happen. Would be nice, though. I guess that’s why they have fantasy leagues, right?
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Langy’s trade sets up the ultimate fantasy match up
What happens when the unmissable ball is hurled at the unhittable bat?
Redman v. Langerhans
Ernesto,
That question may never be answered,… ever. Here’s my reason why:
Redman won’t ever pitch past the 4th inning, and Langerhans won’t be batting until the 8th or 9th, after he comes in as a defensive replacement. =)
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
I will say this. Other teams have more to offer than the Braves do. Like pitching prospects that project higher than ours. Clay Bucholz is a stud from Boston and he woulc be inlcuded in any deal for pitching. How about Harrison Salty and Shafer for Haren. I bet you that would be enough for Billy Beane. COME ON!!! We traded Dan Meyer, Charles Thomas and Juan Cruz for Tim Hudson. All those guys suck.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
A.J.,
I have no idea if Oakland would give up Haren for Salty. To tell you the truth, sounds like a better deal for Oakland in the long-term but I don’t know if it’s a trade that makes sense for either side.
Haren is still pretty young, especially for a pitcher, but he’s 26 and hasn’t really shown anything overly spectacular. It’s a bit of a reach to say he’s a potential Cy Young guy.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Amber - I am afraid with Bobby Cox’s head strong belief of platooning players with right and left hand pitchers we are stuck with the Wilson /Thorman combo at 1B. Maybe Wilson will get stuck on the 15 day DL (nothing too serious) and Thorman will get 2 weeks of playing time and Cox will understand he is a full time player.
By beachcomber
May 3, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Permit me to join the chorus late. What a near perfect game last night. Would have been perfect if Salty’s drive had traveled 15 feet further. I’m sure this is what John S. envisioned when he traded for Soriano and Gonzalez. Although I don’t believe he envisioned Salty behind the plate and Harris in LF beyond 3/30. Both they both more than held their own last night. This weekend will be a great test. The Dodgers look good this year.
By MBATL
May 3, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Well, the Pirates are still looking for a big bat in the middle of their lineup (tee-hee). Maybe we could pry Gorzelanny away from them.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
That question may never be answered,… ever. Here’s my reason why: Redman won’t ever pitch past the 4th inning, and Langerhans won’t be batting until the 8th or 9th, after he comes in as a defensive replacement. =)
LOL, HIllbilly. I peed my pants when I read that.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Saltalamacchia is going back down unless he hit a homer every other plate appearance from here on out or something ridiculous like that. No one really knows if he’s quite ready. Even if he hits well in 10 games or so, that’s not enough to judge whether he is ready for the majors.
Also, even if he is ready, McCann is already the catcher and they know what he can do. I’m sure they would rather Salty play everyday in the minors than backup McCann and play a couple of times a week. Having a quality backup is not worth messing with Salty’s development. Baseball players get better by playing baseball as often as possible. He needs to be an everyday player somewhere.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
I like the comments about trading high (and when there are the most bidders).
Moving Kelly is a possibility because he’s high right now. But he’s always had an eye at the plate. Similar to Chipper, his lows are usually in the power department and hitting the ball right at people. He’s quality. He’s young and cheap. It would have to fill a glaring need (we have needs, but no glaring one this season. We’re still in 1st).
Salty is best to move in the offseason. I personally don’t like trading him because I think we’ll lose Andruw. And Salty is young enough to add long term value and replace some of the lost power numbers. That being said, if Salty gets us a 26+ year old solid replacement for Andruw? Someone we could get 6 years with? I wouldn’t be afraid to move him.
I don’t see teams parting with “sure thing” pitchers. That’s a quick way to get fired.
By MBATL
May 3, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Shaun, I certainly agree that Salty’s stay will be brief. He can be called back up Sept. 1, and who knows, if he’s comfortable, maybe even be the backup catcher during the playoffs (be nice to have that bat off the bench in October). But he sure doesn’t need to be riding the pines all summer in Atlanta.
By geauxbraves2000
May 3, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
After watching Salty last night, I’m not really liking idea of trading him. He called a good game, and he looks like he could hit the ball a country mile. If he does end up being traded, I have a feeling it’ll turn out like Boston trading Bagwell, Detroit trading Smoltz, etc.
Geaux Braves!!
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
meansonny:
Moving Kelley Johnson is not going to happen. No way. You made my point for me meansonny: …he’s always had an eye at the plate. Similar to Chipper…He’s quality. He’s young and cheap. Please explain why we would trade him, when he has been nothing short of fabulous and then not only give up a hole to fill at second, but at the leadoff spot too? That makes absolutely no sense.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
meansonny,
No way Kelly Johnson is going anywhere. You don’t just trade to “sell high.” You trade because you can get someone a lot better or to get someone cheaper and younger before a guy walks or because you have two guys playing the same position, etc. You don’t trade if it opens a huge hole somewhere. The only way the Braves would trade someone like Johnson is if they got another all-star caliber 2B for the same price, which isn’t going to happen.
Also, teams may be willing to trade a pitching prospect or two for Salty, if they are smart. Salty is much more of a sure thing than a pitching prospect because most pitching prospects don’t become good pitchers in the majors. Most hitting prospects of the caliber of Salty become at least pretty good major leaguers.
By Epinephrine
May 3, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry, but you would have to be an absolute moron to trade KJ.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Trade Kelly Johnson? Wow, that’s a new level of … well, I’ll just leave it at wow.
Yes, trade high, by all means. If the Bulls had followed that wise strategy, they could have gotten god-knows-what for Jordan and had one NBA title instead of, what was it, six?
Patriots should have followed that strategy after Tom Brady’s breakout season, since his value clearly was never going to be higher.
And I can’t believe the Mets held onto Jose Reyes after his breakout season, when they could have gotten so much for him.
Good strategy, always trade or sell “high.”
Jeesh… there’s really no sense arguing with some people. When they’re coming at it from that level, from that angle, where do you even start?
By Lee
May 3, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
I was surprised when Salty was brought up instead of Corky Miller. Cox’s way of thinking is usually experience over youth in any situations like this. Could this be dangling the baited hook just to see what bites we may get? Any thoughts about this -anybody?
“I didn’t even get to introduce myself to him,” Billy Beane was quoted as saying per Ken Rosenthal on Fox Sports.com referring to Langerhans.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
And by the way, the next good starting pitcher traded will be the first one traded this season. Folks, nobody is eager to trade starting pitchers, since NO TEAM has a surplus of good, proven ones and almost every team has a severe shortage of them.
By meansonny
May 3, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Sorry for the confusion. I wasn’t saying to get rid of Kelly. If you read the post. I explain the only reason to do so was if we had a glaring need (which we don’t).
The comment was in reference to a previous post about making trades when a player’s value is high. He referenced Kelly. And he’s right. His value is very high right now. Probably higher than it will be in the offseason.
If given the preference, I say dance with the kids who are taking the steps we teach them. That means to keep all the Baby Braves and hope that our pitching prospects pan out (include Hampton in that equation). Hope we can teach these Braves to play the positions we need them.
The risk is… Can we replace the loss of another 30+HR hitter in Andruw? And can we count on Hampton to keep Chuck James a #4 starter? And do we have another John Smoltz in our system?
I’m willing to gamble on these to keep the Baby Braves. But keep in mind that a solution to those problems is not a bad thing, even if it means giving something up.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
geauxbraves2000,
“After watching Salty last night”? Hopefully your opinion of Salty comes from more than just one game. Also, trading any player could be good or bad. I don’t the the Braves are going to be stupid in trading Saltalamacchia. My guess is they’ll ask for at least one quality player that’s close to his age and one or two other good players.
By Richard Cory
May 3, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
UNBELIEVABLE
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Thank you DOB for bringing some kind of sanity in here…. Geez…. reading these post about trading KJ make me feel like a Nick Song or something…. just sooooo depressing it hurts.
By ncscoots
May 3, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Why would the Braves need to showcase Salty to invite a trade? I’d wager there are 29 files on the guy already open and updated on a regular basis. Other ML teams already know about the guy AND his ceiling. If there are teams willing to trade for him, they don’t need a big league cameo to show them what they would get.
By Barrett
May 3, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
What is “UNBELIEVABLE” Richard Cory?
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
If the Braves can get Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, trade Kelly Johnson, by all means.
By Ron Roberts
May 3, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
But the question is, if we give up a guy folks may project will be a 30 HR a year catcher,, get a front-line starter in return who’s no mor than simply arbitration eligible or under an affordable contract already for 2-3 years, then I think trading Saltalamacchia would be worth it.
If we traded Saltalamacchia and got a soon-to-be free-agent pitcher who’s flat-out damn good and we only get him long enough to win a World Series title, would we complain? I’d like a darned good prospect to go with it, but I think JS is smart enough to do that himself, too.
Either way, we have two young stud catches, and the Braves have already made a long-term commitment to McCann. Maybe next offseason they work with McCann at first and Thorman in left field like they did Kelly Johnson at 2B this year; the concern, for me is we’re taking a third of our field work to guys who aren’t experienced at their position. That doesn’t work well with wanting solid pitching if you surround ‘em with so-so defense.
By MBATL
May 3, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
I know this is a little bit of ‘fantasy stuff’, but what if…
First, we stand more or less pat this year - work out the starting pitching problems from among Davies, Redman, Lerew, Villarreal, Soriano, etc.
I know that’s troublesome - my goal is just to get into the post-season, where our top 2 starters, our bullpen and good offense give us a great chance. So far we’re well on track to the postseason and even without a trade, and I think the back of our rotation will improve.
In the offseason: Work Salty at 1B in winter leagues (or McCann, but I don’t think that’s likely); and Thorman in LF (he has some experience there already);
Trade Edgar to free up the $6+ mil in ‘08, and start Lillibridge at SS; let AJ walk, and move Francoeur to CF, and start B Jones in RF.
So, you’ve got a lineup of C McCann, 1B Salty, 2B KJ, SS Lillibridge, 3B Chipper, CF Franceour, RF B Jones, and LF Thorman. That’s a balanced, powerful young lineup!
Escobar backs up SS and 3B; Prado backs up 2B and SS; Harris or better yet Blanco backs up OF; “whoever” backs up 1B. Keep Pena as backup C.
The only guys making any money are Chipper and McCann (though McCann only draws $800 K in ‘08, the Braves will probably “average” his salary to something like $5 mil/year, I’m guessing).
We’ve got 3 big pitching contracts: Smoltz ($14 mil), Hampton (9), and Hudson (13). And Gonzo and Soriano will make some pretty good money - call it $6 mil for the 2?
With Wickman, Edgar, and AJ gone, We would have substantial bucks to spend on a quality starter (Zambrono?). We’d have a strong young lineup, a fine rotation, a great pen… and guys like Lerew, Harrison, Reyers get another year to develop in the minors.
What’s unrealistic? It’s a lot of youth, for one. It’s assuming the Braves decide to keep Salty and move him to 1B, which of course reduces his trade value but we’re not trading him in my world; Thorman to LF is realistic. Lillibridge may not be ready for SS, so you play Escobar instead. And it’s assuming B Jones is ready, which seems likely.
To me, the future is so bright, I’d like to see us keep it intact. We’ve got to play a little money ball unless the new owners open things up, but I’d like us to spend most of what money we have on pitching.
By ncscoots
May 3, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
We traded Dan Meyer, Charles Thomas and Juan Cruz for Tim Hudson. All those guys suck.
True. But you should have heard the wailing and gnashing from Braves Nation when the trade was made. Meyer was the top-rated pitching prospect in the org, Thomas had had a great year and was a fan fave, and Cruz was thought to have tremendous upside. The only factor moderating the moaning was that Hudson was a stone-cold pitching assassin. At the time, it seemed a close-to-even trade, lots of good players for a great player.
By VaBravesfan
May 3, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Somebody check Kyle Davies for ingrown toenails. Maybe that is his problem, too.
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
DOB,
If no one wants to trade starting pitching, then how is this team winning the division???
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Ron Roberts,
I think Salty will be traded in a semi-blockbuster during the off-season. I see the Braves possibly moving him in the off-season with another lesser player or two for a CF, LF and a pitcher or two and most of these players will be young. That’s just a guess.
I doubt they would trade a prospect the caliber of Salty for just one young pitcher. Pitchers are huge risks, so I’m guessing they would want more than just one young pitcher. I’m guessing they’ll ask for at least two decent pitching prospects (maybe one top 100-type pitching prospect but not top 30 and a lesser pitching prospect) plus a decent, young position player.
By Baron
May 3, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Where’d Paronto come from? Last news I could find had him making a rehab at Rome on Monday. So he’s all back up to snuff now? If so that’s great news.
By Fred from CT
May 3, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
I don’t know if anyone noticed but were looking at maddux vs smoltz on wednesday night. Should be exciting
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
Efrim, are they in first place right now? Can they possibly be any worse in the Nos. 4-5 spots?
Answers: Yes, and no.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Efrim,
What do you mean how is this team winning the division? Did you see the rotation the Mets won the division with last season? Besides, of course the goal is the division title, but the Braves could easily when the Wild Card with the staff they have and that offense. And once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen—see the ‘06 Cards—especially with Smoltz and Hudson at the top of the rotation and the bullpen arms that are out there.
By Keep Superman in Atlanta
May 3, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
I like the alternating C and 1B using McCann and Salty, which could solve the platoon issue at 1B. Then trade Thorman, C Wilson, and Diaz-allowing another Jones(Brandon) boy to play in Atlanta which has worked out pretty well with the last two Jones’s, you know Larry Chipper Jones and Andruw Rudolf Jones (714 HR’s combined with 8+ prime years left b/w the sluggers). I’ll take another Jones just on the name alone over current LF situation. Plus the OF could operate as the Best defensive OF in the Bigs on a day to day basis, instead of every other day depending on what arm the oppposing pitcher throws with. Get rid of Orr or Woodward, allowing Harris to move to Utility infeilder. If the two of them could catch in the bigs for 10 years but only accumulate 1/2 the wear and tear as Javy Lopez did over that time period how much longer would there hitting talents last; possibly closer to 40 years old instead of being done as an offensive threat at 30 because of the beating an every day catcher takes. You also would not have to worry about losing your starting catcher once every time around the starting rotation, like the braves used to do when E Perez or H Blanco played every Maddux start taking J Lopez’s huge bat out of the line up 35 or 36 games a year. What do they have to lose with 1B already an experiment, try it for a couple of weeks. There was a guy by the name of Babe Ruth that pitched for part of career as well as played in the field on his non pitching days-he still holds a couple of records in the pitching department but recently has slid into 2nd or 3rd for his most famous records in the HR category. If that could happen a catcher could play 1B. The only problem would be the two players wanting to do it and also how smart Salty is calling a game by himself. If I were a catcher and I am 22 or 23 and I see maybe one of my idols Mike Piazza barely able to DH now b/c of catching I might jump at the chance to play 1B 2 or 3 games a week instead of 6 or 7 games a week in a crotch behind home plate taking bats to the head and hands and 10 or more foul balls a game to every part of my body. Most catchers would never have this option as a far fetched possibilty, but the braves have a very rare situation. Don’t trade Salty like the braves did with W. Betimet last year for shot in the dark pitcher from a production stand point and also an arm injury chance. Dont trade him for established starter with 1 to 2 years left before we want be able to afford him, or someone already we cant afford like Hampton who might get hurt. Keep the slugger at all costs especially with Matt Harrison, Jo Jo Reyes, Thomas Hanson a year or less away from ready to make their Debut. that way you get the million dollar slugger and pitcher for less than a million combined for 2-5 years before they get the big contract!
By TennesseePaul
May 3, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Ron Roberts: You are correct. It was not Cox’s fault for allowing Chuck James to be given a chance to continue to dominate Ryan Howard. Howard was at least 0-11 with 7ks against Chuck James.
James needs to correct his deliviery. He isn’t following through and it keeps him from being accurate and typically leaves the ball up in the zone. When he follows through he is better.
Trade KJ?? Look the only trading high that occured recently was when we shipped LaRoche to the Pirates for Gonzo. And Gonzo has been amazing. The other time, we sent Charles Thomas and Juan Cruz to the A’s for Hudson. Maybe we can toss Langerhans in there. As soon as Langerhans got a hit, he was sold to a different team.
And, there is no way Omar was talking contract with a guy 2 years from free agency. If this were his walk year, then maybe. If they have a tape of Omar telling him to ask for a massive pay raise in Arbitration to force a trade, then maybe. But I seriously doubt it.
As for Salty, he won’t be catching in Atlanta unless McCann dies, or is traded. I don’t see either of those happening. McCann and Francoeur are friends and that is a marketing plus. Both these guys are from Atlanta and that is a HUGE marketing plus.
Salty is going to have to change positions to be on the big league club. It’s either that or he is traded. I’ve read reports that he isn’t not the better defensive catcher between the two. If Salty is traded, it better be to an AL West team. I don’t want to have to deal with pitching to that guy for the next 10 years. He’s going to be good. It’s that simple. And I’d rather him be good on the Braves at one of the 2 “open” positions than be good with any other team in the Majors or, in particular, the NL. I know 1B is not open… I am a Thor fan. But, if Salty starts cranking the ball like mad, he is going to force JS’s hand. They will find a way to get him in the line up or trade him. And I’m pulling for keeping him. Especially if we can’t keep AJ. We’re going to need that bat even more if AJ walks.
By BravesDave
May 3, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
Has anyone else noticed that Willie Harris has three hits in three games with the Braves, while Ryan Langerhans had three hits in twenty games with the Braves? I just thought I would point that out.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
TennesseePaul,
Also, with LaRoche, the Braves had an adequate replacement in Thorman. Who’s going to play second if Johnson leaves? So many reasons not to trade someone just to “sell high.” It would be ridiculous.
BravesDave,
Again, the season is only a month old. Let’s see where Harris and Langerhans are in four months. Again, not saying it was a bad trade but I’d be surprised if Harris’s puts together a better season than Langerhans (barring an injury).
By KC
May 3, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Lew: I think the Braves could look for a starter that’s not cheap but is affordable, or they might find someone that will be a free agent at year’s end, but who they sense they have a good chance of re-signing. I think the Braves have had a pretty good sense of that with most everyone.
The Braves talked all along like JD Drew was going to be one-and-done, and it probably didn’t surprise them in the least to see Sheffield bolt. On the other hand, they knew they had a great chance of inking Hudson, which they did. The only player I think that really surprised them was Kyle Farnsworth.
There are players who will accept a fair deal (somewhat commensurate to market value, but not necessarily top-dollar) to extend their stay in Atlanta. And of course, many who won’t. Schuerholz and co. generally do a great job of reading their chances ahead of time.
The Braves top priority is and will be pitching. They would like to keep Andruw, but they have a lot of young positional talent. What they need is another good young starter. If they have to concede Andruw’s departure to free up money for pitching… they will most certainly do so.
If Andruw and Wickman (that’s 20 million combined) are both gone at season’s end… there should be enough to pursue another top-line starter. Even when you factor pay raises due Smoltz (6 million dollar raise, but much of it is paid *this year as a signing bonus, no doubt using the Hampton insurance money)*, and Hudson (7 million raise next year)… there should still be around 10 million freed up if both Andruw and Wickman gone, if in fact that happens.
And that’s assuming the payroll remains static, which may or may not be the case.
Also, if they could pay slightly less in the fist year of any free agent deal… Hampton’s contract will expire after next season, freeing up more money.
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
DOB,
Mets in August
Martinez Glavine Hernandez Maine Perez
Braves
Smoltz Hudson James Cormier Villareal
Thats at best if we don’t make a trade.
By the way, this draft, can we get a power arm??? I don’t care if its a Boras client. I can’t stand hearing Mike and the Mad Dawg talk about Tim Lincecum!!!!
By MGL
May 3, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
So Shaun, how about one of your infamous detailed statistical analysis regarding Salty’s major league performance to date.
By NYC
May 3, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
What’s with all the verbal masturbation over Salty? He hit a friggin fly ball and he’s the second coming? Yes he threw someone out trying to steal..and got a hit good job happy b-day Salty. For God sake, before we make him our everyday left fielder, (and the next “new” face of the Braves, lets see how he does over the course of the next couple of weeks. I digress..and GO BRAVES!
By BravesDave
May 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Tennessee, I was just pointing out a fact. I wasn’t saying that Harris is better than Langerhans. I thought it was a funny tidbit to point out how awful Langerhans really was this April.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
MGL,
My analysis: It’s one game! Not much you can tell about a player by one game.
Based on his minor league numbers, scouting reports I’ve read, and Baseball America rankings, he’ll likely be one of the 5 best catchers in baseball within a couple of years.
By MBATL
May 3, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
If Salty is really 6’4, 235 at age 22, isn’t that kind of large for a catcher? I really don’t know - have there been many catchers who were that big and successful long term?
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
MBATL,
A lot was made of Joe Mauer’s size when he came up and he’s done fine so far. Also, Georgia Tech’s Matt Weiters is big and some rate him as the number one draft-eligible prospect, for what that’s worth.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
MBATL Carlton Fisk was 220lbs and 6’2”. I suggested in an earlier post Salty reminds me of him a little- maybe a better arm. Salty is big for his age. He cannot afford to gain much weight.
By MBATL
May 3, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Shaun, yeah, I knew Mauer was a big kid but forgot about him. Thanks.
By Baron
May 3, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
Near the deadline, Andruw to Boston for Pena or Crisp and Lester. Assuming no injuries and Lester comes off the DL okay and looks like the champ he was last year.
I don’t think the Bravos are holding on to Andruw next year. He’s simply out of their price range, even at his current salary- and he’s going to bump 3-5 mil.
The Sox have the bank to sign Andruw long term and are about the only team with pitching to spare right now. J.D.’s an injury risk and Manny’s Manny.
The Braves have scored the most runs in the NL even with the Langerhans/Wilson debacle going on, so I think they could spare a lttle of Druw’s offense, especially if they can get Wily Mo.
This is a fair trade for both sides that adress both the needs and financial realities of both clubs.
This won’t happen of course, but since we’re throwing out crazy trade ideas…
By TennesseePaul
May 3, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
BravesDave: I think you mean someone else. Langerhans was bad. Harris is starting out better, but there is no way this guy is the long term solution. Not in LF anyway. Maybe for a bench role or something.
Why do we have Orr on the Bench? Is it so Thor feels comfortable speakin Canadian with someone? Orr is rarely in a game. Seems that spot could be better utilized.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
BravesDave,
I think you meant me. I do believe Langerhans is better than Harris and his numbers will be better by season’s end.
By gb
May 3, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
rollins lead off double last nite would have been out one wit langerhans in left.
By Mike S
May 3, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Baron, Andruw to Boston at deadline only for Beckett,Ellsbury, and Buchholz. The last 2 are the top prospects. Ellsbury is hitting just under .500 right now! That being said, AJ leaving anytime this year… no chance.
By Mike S
May 3, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
TennesseePaul, Orr is on the bench b/c Chipper is determined to play everyday. Orr is the backup 3b right now.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
TennessessPaul - Orr’s spot is a waste. Only thing I can figure is maybe he is the club house clown and tells good jokes or maybe a bad poker player.
Truly a wasted position on this team. If another LF is obtained I hope Harris at least gets Orr’s spot.
By Martin
May 3, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
I originally posted the trade Johnson theory, and I knew everyone here who just thinks with their heart would have a negative knee jerk reaction - but I think the logic is still there. Is he going to ever be better than he is right now? Probably not. Could we possibly get more for him right now than ever? Yes. Do we have a glut of quality guys in the organization that are capable of playing his position and contributing? Yes. You may notllike the idea, but its sound logic,and if this were solely a business decision and not an emotional one - it would be a sound move to consider it and its ramifications.
By Mike S
May 3, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
gb, Your probably right with the leadoff double but Langy would have k’d with the bases loaded and we would have went to extras.
By Lee
May 3, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
I forgot - Orr would not be on the team if not for AWOL WILLY
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
James needs to correct his deliviery. He isn’t following through and it keeps him from being accurate and typically leaves the ball up in the zone. When he follows through he is better.
TenPaul, I noticed that too. He stands straight up as he releases the ball and swings his left leg around stiff. I haven’t ever noticed it before lastnight. Has he always done that?
By Keep Superman in Atlanta
May 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
to NYC: he has not done anything in atlant yet but his minor league numbers are of the charts besides last year when he battled the wrist injury. He did nothing awesome beside hit the first ball in his MLB debut to the warning track in CF and showed Chipper and McCann like discipline at the plate that Francouer tries so hard to replicate but still cant control himself when the ball curves into the dirt in an 0-2 count, granted hes doing much better so far. Oh yea he is a power switch hitter, not to mention he broke a MLB record before taking a swing or walking onto the field(Longest name in MLB history 14 letters). Im not saying he will ever live close to the hype but from first glance, minor league stats, what appears to be very good baseball IQ which most players with good IQ probably would be to nervous in their first game at the plate to use-he went to a two or three ball count every atbat last night and didnt miss any pitches he did swing at by either fouling them off or hitting them in play. All of that is way better than current platoon in LF, no offense to Harris but his ceiling is no better Diaz or Langerhans, and I would take that prospect over 1B too, Thorman is doing good but he about as dumb a player I’ve ever seen besides John Rocker who was border line Retarded. He doesnt understand that being able to swing the bat as hard as he can is not the same thing as a fast ball registering triple digits on the radar gun, especially if you miss the ball as badly as he does, and the awkwardness he shows swinging running and throwing reminds me of right handed hitter trying to hit left handed for the first time. With him its not really WOW i wonder how far the ball would go if he had hit that pitch with that swing, but more like WOW i wonder how small his brain is in that watermelon on his shoulders. If you plan on beating the Mets you better not expect Diaz/Harris to match Mousis Alou in LF nor Thorman/Wilson against Carlos Delgado. Yea we have got them in the first two series but i dont think by the end we can if those to positions continue to suck; and even if we do end up winning the division and back in the playoffs with same guys at 1B and LF, then i guarentee that will be the cause of a familar playoff dud that we have seen 13 times in the last 15 years.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Martin,
Does Johnson have to be better than he is right now to be great? No. Are there other option better than Johnson in the system right now? No.
Unless we trade Johnson for a 2B that’s at least just as cheap and just as good, it would be stupid, and that’s not going to happen.
I agree that Johnson probably is playing a bit over his head but I do think he’s a great player. Why would the Braves trade him for anything other than an equally great 2B and something more? And why would another team give up an equally great 2B and more if they are just getting a 2B as valuable as the one they already have.
I can’t imagine a realistic scenario where it would be logical to trade Kelly Johnson.
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe I’m reading that some people want to trade Kelly Johnson. After everybody was singing the blues for a year about needing a leadoff hitter, we’ve got a damn good one and y’all want to ship him off for what? What are you gonna possibly get for him that you’re not getting from him? We’ve got plenty of prospects and fringe players to package together for pitching without having to give up the kind of production KJ gives you at such a cheap rate.
By fastasballs
May 3, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Great blog so far! Really enjoy reading the posts. It’s fun to play the “what if” game with Andruw, Salty & the rotation.
Really glad the Braves won last night or this blog would be a mess today.
Pitching is going to have to come within the organization, this year at least, unless JS pulls something off.
By NationalLeagueEast
May 3, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
I think Salty will be traded in a semi-blockbuster during the off-season. I see the Braves possibly moving him in the off-season with another lesser player or two for a CF, LF and a pitcher or two
Are you KIDDING me? You honestly believe you’re going to get a CF, LF, AND a pitcher—OR TWO!—for “Salty.”
MAYBE you should wait and see if the guy performs at the major league level before proposing these kinds of trades with other teams. He is, right now, a prospect—nothing more.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Martin,
Maybe one day all those middle infielders will be just as good as Kelly Johnson but they probably aren’t right now? Even if they are, why would the Braves take a chance on them being just as good and then trading Kelly Johnson when Johnson has been outstanding?
I’m all for trading any player if it helps the team, but I don’t see how any realistic trade scenario involving Kelly Johnson would help the team.
Okay, I’m dignifying this idea too much with the long-winded responses.
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
I can’t imagine a realistic scenario where it would be logical to trade Kelly Johnson.
Shaun, nor can I. I guess the grass is always greener to some people though.
By knowitall
May 3, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Martin, your idea isn’t logical. People act like we are building for the future or something. We are trying to win this year. If your goal is to make a run at the world series, you don’t trade away your lead off hitter who leads the leauge in on-base percetage. Isn’t that what a leadoff hitter is supposed to do? Right now, you can’t say that anyone out there is a better replacement.
By ncscoots
May 3, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Hillbilly, I don’t know about “always”, but it’s certainly the same type of release he had last year. I mean, I don’t watch film of the guy or anything, but maybe it’s more pronounced this year? That may be part of his “deception”, but I would think that also contributes to the amount of time he spends up in the zone.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
KC-I don’t think you realize that when Andruw leaves, his salary is already gone. Hudson will be making another $7 million next year, and arbitration with Soriano, Gonzalez and Francoeur will eat up the rest. Supposing Wickman does retire (probably, but who really knows?), you’ve got $6 million, which won’t get you a number 1 or 2 starter. We’re not going to have the ton of money you seem to think we are, unless the team is sold and payroll is boosted.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Keep Superman in Atlanta,
I’m sure a lot of people didn’t think the Cardinals had a shot to advance in the playoffs with a lot of players they had.
Apparently you aren’t aware the Braves have scored the 2nd-most runs in the NL with the current 1B and LF situation. And if they make the playoffs with a healthy Hudson and Smoltz and the bullpen arms, they’ve got as good a shot as anyone to advance.
By Fred from CT
May 3, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
stop with the trade johnson talk that is just crazy the kid is playing great always give a good at bat trading him is not a option. As for everyone that is killing willie lets give him a chance. the guy has great speed something that this team doesn’t have. I’ve been hoping that since spring training he would get a shot. The team needs some speed on it and he provides it.
By Shaun
May 3, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
NationalLeagueEast,
Read the post more carefully.
I think Salty will be traded in a semi-blockbuster during the off-season. I see the Braves possibly moving him in the off-season with another lesser player or two for a CF, LF and a pitcher or two
By Ricardo
May 3, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
Just got tix to the Braves v The Bums this Sat. What’s the pitching matchup?
Thanks!
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Ricardo,
That’ll be Hudson vs. Derreck Lowe
By Unidentified Blogger
May 3, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Well, it looks like we have already either traded Salty or moved him or McCann to 1B and Thorman to LF. Also, some have already “traded high” with Kelly Johnson. Hope we get Cy Young for him.
I try not to get to excited about what the Braves might do, as I have NEVER guessed correctly what Mr. Schuerholz would do. He always seems to surprise me, except for the Langerhans dump earlier this week.
By Martin
May 3, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
A few weeks ago, a lot of you people who “love” Johnson now thought letting Giles go was a mistake. All I’m saying is it was a good gamble, it has paid off. Can we make it pay off even more? There were a lot of people on here enthusiastic about Martin Prado and Escobar, but now you think Johnson is untouchable? We have plenty of talent at his position, what we don’t have is a 4th or 5th starter. Think like a business man instead of a fan and you’ll see what I’m saying is at least worth considering.
By Kevin
May 3, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Dave O’Brien
Curious what are you doing on your day off besides the blog notes here ??? Plus must be nice to have a day off from the rigors of major league baseball.
By Ricardo
May 3, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Arkansas Hillbilly -
Much appreciated!
By Epinephrine
May 3, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Martin, no, only idiots wanted Prado to win the job over KJ. The rest of us knew he could hit, just not at the level that he has been. The only question was whether he could play defense. He had a projected .375 OBP at the beginning of the year.
We do not have plenty of talent at 2B. We especially don’t have a guy that can hit leadoff with a .400 OBP. And we ESPECIALLY don’t have a guy that can do it as cheaply as KJ. Kid is young, and probably an all star. We have him for cheap.
And you want to bring a pitcher, who in this market is going to require a hell of a lot of money, for a guy that is pretty much directly responsible for us being in 1st right now? You think Chipper’s bat would be anywhere near as important if no one was on base? And further, what pitcher are you going to get? A prospect who might not pan out, or a several million dollar guy with a 5 ERA?
Some people here-wow. I mean just wow.
By TennesseePaul
May 3, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Hillbilly: Last season he wasn’t stiff. Maybe it was because last year he was starting in the second half and was more warmed up or something. But last night it was like he just stood on the mound and took a step to the plate and threw it up and out every time. As soon as the first lefty got to the plate he followed through and started getting the ball down. When he followed through, more often than not his pitch was in the right location and had the proper movement. His fastball would hit 90 on the follow through but not on the stiff approach.
Roger needs to review the tape and see if it’s there. It could be the beer or something, but it wasn’t the Chuck James motion I remember.
By knowitall
May 3, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Martin,
I disagree with probably 95% of the trade suggestions/moves suggested here because I don’t make rash judgements after every game. That being said, do you honestly think that any of the prospects are going to be better at getting on base than KJ is? I don’t know why I’m even discussing this anyway because it’s obvious that Bobby Cox loves the guy’s ability and I don’t think the Braves will be trading him anytime soon.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Kevin, I just filed something on Five Reason The Braves Are in First Place. Gonna do a brief preview box for Dodgers series now, then try to bang out a quick blog.
Martin, no it’s not. Not now, in the middle of the season with the Braves’ clicking. You absolutely, positively don’t trade Kelly Johnson and turn over leadoff duties to someone else unproven.
No way, no how. Maybe in offseason you do that, if you’re confident in one of the young guys. But that’d be asinine to do that now.
By chipdip
May 3, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
SALTY IS A GREEK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!UP THE IRONS…………MOTORHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By KC
May 3, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
LEW: after taking a closer look… we’re both partially right, and wrong.
When/if Andruw (paid 13.5 mill this year) and Wickman (6.5 this year) leave…that will free up 20 million. 7 of that will go to Hudson, which leaves 13 million. Smoltz technically goes from 8 mill to 14 mill next season, but I believe DOB said most of his raise next year is coming in the form of a signing bonus which was paid at the time of the contract renewal (no doubt putting part or all of the Hampton insurance Money to good use).
So given that most of his raise has already been paid… let’s say the Braves have around 12 million left to work with.
If my sources are accurate, Francoeur is not eligible for arbitration this winter, however you are correct in stating the Gonzo and Soriano are. Given that both will have served primarily as middle relievers this year, we shouldn’t get taken to the cleaners there. Budget another 3 million between the 2 of them. That leaves the balance at around 9 million.
Keep in mind also that JS pretty much always goes into the season with at least a few million of wiggle room. I seriously doubt we’re spending at absolute capacity right now.
yes, this is all speculation on both our parts, so please don’t give me any lectures about my not knowing what exactly what the financial situation is there. I know I don’t. All either of us can do is extrapolate and make educated guesses. But based on what I can gather… I believe the Braves will have 10-12 million to spend IF both Andruw and Wickman leave as free agents.
10-12 million is not enough to go out on the open market over the winter and buy a big free agent starter. Not in this market. I never suggested it was. But again, if the Braves were to trade for someone now that will be a free agent, and re-sign him to a deal that would begin next year with 8-10 mill in the first season, but would be back loaded a bit… that I believe is doable.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Martin, just scrolled up and saw how many people attacked you for your trade-Johnson idea. Glad to see that we have so many savvy fans. And that they let you know how absurd your suggestion was.
Now go back to the drawing board and think up another idea to get everyone cranked up. Maybe “trade Chipper now,” for instance. That should do the trick.
By Keep Superman in Atlanta
May 3, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
We had Maddux, Glavin, Smoltz and a couple of #2 starters-on most teams-in the 4 spot, but more than any other reason for falling short in the Postseason has to be the three positions in the line up particularly-Blauser,Olson,Lemke,LF(not gant or jordan) not producing in October anything signifigant which in my opinion is the reason for only 1 World Series and not 3 or 4 Rings. One run by D Justice gave the braves that one Championship, the only time not having enough offense from the bottom three bats did not cost us—If you think Thorman Diaz Wilson and Harris can hit come October then your an idoit. The Mets have equal pitching staff in their starters and a very awesome bullpen, to then compare top to bottom and see where the braves fall short-1B Delgado vs. Thorman,Wilson and Mousis Alou vs. Diaz/Harris. My point is this give one of those a player who is good enough to play whether there is Lefty or a Righty on the mound. Currently the nobody playing those positions really have the talent to do that which is why they play part time only. Dont get me wrong though i dont want to be Like NYY or NYM and get the highest paid players, but why not put the guys at Mississippi or Richmond that have enormous talent and star-factor like salty, b. jones, y. escobar, m. harrison a shot at those positions now. Good chance your going to at least get the current production out of them. I dont want to hear they are not ready, A. Jones Frenchy McCann weren’t ready when they came up supposedly, but nobody told them that. Andruw accidently hit two dingers in the World Series at 18 years old against the Yanks. Mediocrity will be the reason for falling short in October if that Mediocrity does not cost them a spot in playoffs.
By KC
May 3, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
LEW: …And all that is assuming the payroll remains static… which I think is a bit unlikely. Payrolls have been beefed up pretty much across the board over the past few seasons, but the Braves payroll has remained unchanged as the franchise lay in wait in the purgatory that is Time Warner. Especially over the past couple seasons as TW laid plans to put the team up for sale, and then did so… all budgets were frozen.
I could be wrong, but I fully expect a payroll increase next year if the sale goes off without a hitch. Maybe not much… 85 instead of 80… who knows? But I believe it is more than reasonable for McGuirk and Schuerholz to request a little more spending flexibility given how much the market has changed of late. I’m sure it won’t be 95 or 100 mill… but I think we’ll see at least a small increase. I could be wrong, but I’m not. =)
By Efrim
May 3, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
KC,
Who do we trade for?
Zambrano will be too expensive for us.
Other teams have more to offer. I will say this though, we are right there with the Yankees and any other starting pitching starved teams. We have no quality current options for the 4 and 5 spots. HOW THE HELL IS JOHN MAINE LEADING THE LEAGUE IN ERA??? HE IS THEIR #4 STARTER WHEN PEDRO COMES BACK????
By marietta-monroe
May 3, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Dave, If you see Bob Wickman, can you please let him know that all us Braves fans are wishing him a speedy recovery. Will the new guys have been doing great, Mr. Wickman is still missed. Let him know that a few bad outings didn’t make us forget all he has done for us. Thanks. (And great job as always. When you are away for a few days, we look forward to having you back also.)
By Brent
May 3, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Martin,
you are suggesting trading a player making the league minimum and producing at high value. Unless we were able to get a player with more upside at the same or similar price, there is no way we would benefit from trading him. We have no money to spare. which means any increase in salary is not a possibility.
Now if you can think of any starting pitchers making league minimum that are as valuable as Johnson, then please tell me. But I’m willing to bet anyone you come up with is untradable to their team (Felix, Hamels, Cain, Hill).
So no, even thinking like a business man, there is no way for us to improve our team by trading KJ.
By BravesDave
May 3, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Just to clear up for everyone…I do not think Willie Harris is anything special. Actually, I would rather see Jones or Blanco out there regularly. I just thought it was humorous that he matched Langerhan’s hit total in three games.
By Jordan
May 3, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Salty is obviously a great prospect. Extremely rare to find a switch hitting catcher with power. He seems to have good discipline at the plate, and i think his bat needs to be in the lineup. A move to first base would suit the Braves well, and he could still catch every so often for McCann. It is also obvious that the Braves are one starting pitcher away from being a serious World Series contender. My suggestion would be to package Pena and Diaz or Wilson in a trade for say a Greg Maddux if the Pads fall out of it. This will take some time to see what teams are still in the race and who is willing to trade. Persoanlly, I would love to see Maddux back in a Braves unifoirm. He might not be quite the same, but he is definitely still good enough to make this Braves team a notch ahead of the Mets, and if the Braves were to hang on to Saltalammachia, the Mets would have nothing on this Braves lineup. We know how to grow our talent instead of buying it.
By KC
May 3, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
And there are quality, inexpensive pitchers out there. It’s just a matter of getting their teams to part with them, which is extraordinarily hard to so.
Branson Arroyo or Aaron Cook would be wonderful if we could get one of them. It would likely require Salty and possibly even something else of value.
Hard to get good, young, cheap pitching. It’s out there, but pretty damn hard to get.
By Martin
May 3, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Fair enough.
I would just like to remind everyone, including Mr. O’Brien, that 95% of people on the blog, including Mr. O’Brien, were against trading Adam LaRoche for Gonzalez.
Good thing savvy bloggers don’t make the real moves. They require guts and business savvy. And that is all I have to say on this subject, good day.
By ncscoots
May 3, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
KC, if you believe that Given that both will have served primarily as middle relievers this year, we shouldn’t get taken to the cleaners there. Budget another 3 million between the 2 of them, I’m afraid you need some more research on the methodology of the arbitration process and its salary structures. Assuming, of course, that the two relievers are lights out all year.
By Bo
May 3, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Willie Harris looks good and he makes things happen, speed on base and etc.I hope Bobby lets him play and lets see what happens. Better than Langie…Salty look good. Luv to see hungry kids play.
By Chop Chop
May 3, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Let’s trade McCann. We have Salty. Salty’s a cheaper alternative. Think about it, for a minute. I mean, McCann just turned 23. Salty’s a whole year and two months younger than him. When catchers hit the age of 23, they start to decline. It’s a well-known fact. PECOTA is projecting Brian McCann to hit like Bill this year. Bill came up with PECOTA to keep his name in the loop. Salty has a better OBP in his major league career than McCann. It’s obvious that McCann has to be traded, folks. It’s the nature of the business. The Braves can’t afford to wait until he’s 24 and washed-up. JS and BC need to get on the horn and make a move right now. Maybe they can get a fourth or fifth starter for him. Not anybody TOO good, of course. Maybe someone like Julian Tavarez or Jeff Weaver. The fact is that this is taking too long. The inaction by the Braves’ front office is really bothering me. I just thought of this a few minutes ago and nothing’s been done. I might not renew my imaginary season tickets next year.
By KC
May 3, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
“KC-I don’t think you realize that when Andruw leaves, his salary is already gone. Hudson will be making another $7 million next year, and arbitration with Soriano, Gonzalez and Francoeur will eat up the rest. Supposing Wickman does retire (probably, but who really knows?), you’ve got $6 million, which won’t get you a number 1 or 2 starter. We’re not going to have the ton of money you seem to think we are, unless the team is sold and payroll is boosted.”
Efim: As long as John Maine is leading the league in ERA, he is their number ONE starter. BUT…
Let’s see where Maine is at in 2-3 months from now. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect him to fall apart. I think he’s a quality pitcher… but I don’t think he’ll be leading the league in ERA (or anything close to it) a few months from now.
I don’t know if there are any pitchers that fit the bill for the Braves in terms of being available by trade now, are free agents this winter, and are re-signable. I was just arguing with Lew (something he and I do regularly - lol) about the Braves financial wherewithal to pursue such a deal if one presents itself. But I’m not suggesting any opportunities like that will arise.
As I mentioned in my previous post… I wonder what it would take to get Aaron Cook (who’s numbers the last couple years are impressive for a guy who pitches at Coors), or Branson Arroyo. Neither one of those teams are going to compete for anything in the next years, before each will become a free agent… so if they’re smart, they would listen to offers for good young talent.
By Martin
May 3, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
Sir, trading McCann makes no sense at this juncture, but in the future, if you could get more “VALUE” for him, then why not? This is a business. I know you are making fun of me - no harm. And Mr. O’Brien, Chipper, as we all know, is untradable because of his predispostion to injuries and his contract.
By Lew
May 3, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
KC-Dude, I don’t want to seem overly contentious, but I think your estimate of $10-12 million left over is way off. You have no idea what will happen in arbitration this coming year. The awards keep getting higher and higher, even for set up men. Add to this the fact that they SHOULD try to lock up Francoeur long term (and I bet you ain’t getting him for any $800 grand after the year he’ll put up) and all of a sudden your $10 mil could be $4mil. As far as the salary cap being boosted, you don’t know that. There has been no indication it will happen. At this point, Liberty Media does not own the team and you don’t know this either, but they may not. If MLB doesn’t approve the deal in time (and there’s no indication it will happen), then the deal may be off because they can’t get the tax break. Dude, you’re dealing with many unhatched chickens. You better hope a lot of our talented kids on the farm step up and take advntage of oppurtunities, because we just might not have the bucks.
By KC
May 3, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
nscoots: Gonzalez and Soriano’s combined pay this year is 3.5 million. Another 3 mill is an 85% pay raise. How often do you see 100% pay raises granted through arbitration? Correct me if I’m wrong… but isn’t the answer almost never?
By Keep Superman in Atlanta
May 3, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
On Kelly Johnson being at his best right now and not having the ability to get much better! He hit a braves record in Richmond for HR in a season with 23-witch is pretty awesome considering Chipper Andruw Frenchy and a lot of others never did. Andruw never hit more than three in a season, granted he only played two seasons in the minors and didnt stop very long at a aa aaa. He has dedicated himself to the Chipper Jones and Brian McCann approach at the plate which is something that produces success no matter what player your talking about-proof is what he is doing now. He’ll never be a natural like Chipper but he can end up being extremely good considering what he has showed off so far! His biggist flaw is that natural confidence no matter what he is doing-which is what killed R.Langherhans chance-that mindset of being blessed with that greatness hall of fame stuff like frenchy chipper a jones david wright who all believe they are the best on the field at all times!
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
You have MVP Candidates at six positions and you want to trade the guy making the least amount but with almost the highest OPS playing an up the middle position and playing it well and batting leadoff drawing six thousand walks and with the highest OBP in the league on a team with a limited budget and no one as good in the minors? Oh yeah, Brilliant!
By Arkansas Hillbilly
May 3, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
Martin, Gonzalez filled a massive, gaping hole. We don’t have that kind of hole on the roster right now. And I was all for that trade from the get-go. Part of the other 5% I guess.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
If they trade Salty for Bronson Arroyo or Aaron Cook as someone suggested, then we need to find a new GM.
By Bill
May 3, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
You can forget all the talk about McCann at first. It’s not going to happen. The only place that Salty can play is first and switch Thorman to left. Francouer can play center and use a younger player in right. Spend high on top notch power pitcher.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Thank God we have a great GM and manager. If these owners had their way, they would trade Chipper, Frenchy, Salty, McCann, Renteria, Andruw, KJ, Hudson, Smoltz, Gonzalez, and Soriano for nothing and tell us all that they were just discontinuing operations of non-core assets.
By Fred from CT
May 3, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Maddux vs Smoltz on wednesday next week surprised no reaction from anyone seems like a exciting matchup. I hope maddux gets a standing ovation from the crowd.
By Braves Fan 79
May 3, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
Why would anyone want us to keep redmen around when we have potential replacments in AAA like this guy: Dan Smith (3-1, 1.95 ERA). I CANT believe cox is going to give redmen ANOTHER chance! is hE trying to give the divison to the mets?? arent u supposed to try and WIN every game?? heres what i read in the ajc today: what is cox smoking….??? :
Cox said Redman would probably need to rest for a week, and didn’t know if he would be ready to pitch in 15 days, but indicated Redman would get another chance in the rotation.
“I think he’s still got some pitching in him,” Cox said. “We’ll see.”
Redman has four wins and a .345 opponents’ batting average in his past 17 starts, including 12 for Kansas City in 2006. He’s 2-6 with a 9.64 ERA and .375 opponents’ average in his past nine starts.
By ernesto
May 3, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Trade Johnson? You must think “trade” means lock him up for a long time. Now those posts make sense.
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
Martin, I hadn’t even seen that you also suggested trading McCann. Another brilliant suggestion, considering he just signed a six-year contract with options that could be a very team-friendly deal.
So, just to make sure I’ve got this right: You want to trade both McCann and Kelly J., right? OK, got it.
What about Frenchy? No? Why not. Trade ‘em all, all the young, affordable talent that baseball’s been ravig about, and alienate the entire fan base. Why not, right?
Stunning logic. Trade young players who are extremely affordable, trade ‘em long before they ever get close to free agency and big paydays.
By Coach
May 3, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
Salty for Scott Kazmir , that is a trade I would do in a heartbeat !
By KC
May 3, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
LEW: As I just posted to nscoots, even if Gonzalez and Soriano get 100% raises, we’re not going to get killed there next winter. However, there were a number of things I didn’t take into account.
First of all, Gonzo and Soriano aren’t the only arbitration eligible players. Cormier, Diaz, Paronto, Yates, and Villarreal are all arbitration eligible. Also, excellent point about locking Frenchy up if we can. I hadn’t thought of that, but that would be an added expense, and one the Braves should try their best to incur. So… I probably am off on that.
In regard to the sale and any possible raise in salary spending… of course, no one knows. But for reasons I’ve already mentioned, I really do expect to see some increase in payroll next year if the sale goes off without a hitch. Again, I could be wrong, but I’m not. =)
By Interested Observer
May 3, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
DOB:
What do you think about the A’s trading Langerhans to the Nats? Did JS get fleeced? Any idea what we might get from the A’s? Could we have gotten a better return if JS had been willing to deal directly with the Nats?
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
Salty for Scott Kazmir , that is a trade I would do in a heartbeat!
Coach, I hear ya on that proposal. Unfortunately, he is no longer with the Mets. If he was still with the Mutts, we would be stupid to trade Salty for Kazmir. All we would have needed was Redman and Davies.
With that being said, the denizens of this great blog really do have a hard on it seems for every single player on the Devil Dogs. You would think they were the ones who won the division 14 years in a row.
By Ron
May 3, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
I will tell you all one thing IF we trade Salty, it better not be for a rental player, dont care who it is. We have to get a young pitcher like Brandon McCarthy of the Rangers, or somebody like that. A guy like that or nothing, thats just what I think!!!
By Ron
May 3, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
Interested Observer, JS got screwed on the Langy deal, and I know he is probably p**, because the Nats wanted to trade for Langy when he was still in Atlanta, and JS did not want to trade to another team in the same division, we may not make another trade with Oakland for awhile!!!
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
BRandon McCarthy?!?!?!?! Why don’t you just trade Salty for Redman and Kyle Davies?!?!?!? What would be the difference?!?!?!
By David O'Brien
May 3, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
NEW BLOG IS UP.
By The Atlanta Discontinued Operations & Non-Core Assets
May 3, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
The more we bounce our fan ideas around the more I think we should not trade Salty. But I have faith that JS will find the pieces he needs to get if he should decide to move Salty. Just don’t trade with Oakland. We will end with with Salty playing for the Mets.
By Jim
May 3, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
I would like to see Salty on the active roster when we play in AL ballparks. We will need a DH and he is by far the best option over any of our current bench players. We can easily keep Salty on the roster by sending down Orr and waiting until after interleague play to return him to the minors. The idea of trading a talent like McCann or the projected talent of Salty for the likes of Bronson Arroyo and Jeff Weaver is more than ludicrous. We need to get back a possibly future ace (like Lineceum, or Miller) who will not become too expensive in two or three years.
Kelly Johnson IS the reason we are in first place right now. His presence in the lineup makes the whole top of the order stronger.
By porksword
May 3, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
I’d love to see Kazmir in a Braves uniform. I live down here in Lakeland and from all the talk this season, there’s front office interest in keeping the core in Tampa. But we’ve heard that talk before here.
Kazmir’s big-time, but the Rays’ll want more than Salty and they wouldn’t take just anyone for him; can’t blame them. Thing is, they did ink Crawford and that showed some positive signs (for Rays fans) that mgt. may just be serious about building a solid core instead of being a big-league farm. That means pitching.
Bon chance competing in the AL East however.
They still won’t make the playoffs regardless of their current 3rd place standing. So who knows.
The “hard on” referred to above may be a bit ;) of hyperbole, but the Rays do have an excellent farm system with quality players. It’s the youth, time and again, that often kills them.
Kaz is young with a career era of 3.76 in the AL East. It’s a bit higher this year thus far (4.06)in 6 games and 37 innings pitched.
All for naught I’m afraid. The Rays won’t let him go—and I don’t think the ATLBrass can do the deal anyway, what with the f*wit deal going down w/ Lib Media and Time Warner. If S’holz pulled that rabbit, it would be a major coup, even in his stellar tenure.
But the “hard on?” Well, from Kazmir’s ‘06 bio, the initial lines lines read:
The 22-year-old put together an All-Star season before he was sidelined with shoulder inflammation in the second half…paced the Rays staff in wins (10), ERA (3.24) and strikeouts (163)…Finished with a 10.14 strikeouts per 9 IP ratio…Only two pitchers (min 20 starts) in major league history had a better K/9 IP ratio at a younger age: Kerry Wood (12.58 in 1998) and Dwight Gooden (11.39 in 1984)…Fanned 93 batters in 75.1 innings at Tropicana Field, the best strikeouts per 9 innings ratio (11.11) in the majors among pitchers with 75 or more innings pitched at home…Held opponents to a .191 batting average at home (52-272), also tops in the majors…His 1.91 ERA was the 2nd best home ERA in the majors behind St. Louis’ Chris Carpenter (1.81)
I watch the kid pitch every time I have the opportunity.
Other thoughts:
Bobby’s just towing (sorry) the line for Redman. He really just can’t pitch.