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Braves pitching shakes out like this

By David O'Brien | Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 11:10 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

No time for sleep and proper diet or exercise in this mind-numbing stretch of spring training, when the weather’s absolutely perfect outside here in Florida but the motorcycle sits in the garage, me unable to ride because of a list of stories and other stuff due by Monday for the AJC special section.

But time must be made to feed the beast that is the Braves/Man in Black.

So before I get back to knocking out these player-bio boxes and drive over to Viera on the coast for a night game against the godawful Nationals _ OK, folks, what’s the over-and-under on Nat losses? I’m going 115 _ let’s do this.

We covered the so-called position-player question marks (LF, 2B, 1B) in the last blog, at least to some degree. So let’s hit on the pitching situation today.

Unless I’m misreading it _ possible, but I don’t think so _ then as I’ve said for a couple of weeks, I think Cormier beats out Davies for the final spot in the rotation (which is technically the No. 4 spot, but only because that’s the way it was laid out when Hampton was still projected to be in the rotation and they wanted him to have an extra couple days’ rest before what would have been his first spring start, had it not been delayed, delayed and then blown away after he pulled his oblique).

So it’ll be Smoltz, Hudson (who has looked a bit shaky at times this spring, despite his good numbers), Chuck James (also a bit shaky at times this spring, but not sure he knows it’s spring or that opening day is in, what, 12 days?), Cormier (who’s been too good this spring and last September to keep out of the rotation), and Mark Redman (who might just be the softest-tossing pitcher in the majors besides Jaime Moyer, but should be good for 10 wins with run support).

Now, what happens when/if Hampton comes back in May, assuming he avoids straining his back or pulling a calf, quad or hammy while rehabbing the oblique? Well, they ain’t paying the former 22-game winner $14.5 million to pitch for Richmond for the summer, and I’m told by a somewhat reliable source that the Braves aren’t getting insurance money for his time on the DL this year or next, that they weren’t able to renew the policy when it ran out after last season.

Which makes sense, given that the only two or three big companies that write policies on ginormous-salaried baseball players stopped writing them for more than three years back in the late 1990s, when they got taken over the coals on a few marquee players who fell apart in the middle of huge contracts.

Anyway, what happens to Hampton? He moves back into the rotation, either for someone who’s injured or someone who’s stinking it up, or just the unlucky person who’s making the least money and/or has options left (Cormier would fit the bill on both counts among the current rotation, not including Davies).

Some of you have asked about Redman, whether they might drop the lefty and go with Davies and Cormier in the last two spots. Can’t see that happening. They didn’t rush to sign Redman to an extremely affordable ($750,000) contract after Hampton’s injury so they could drop Redman after Davies had a couple of decent spring starts.

Say what you will about Redman. Say he can’t break a pane of glass with a rock and a running start (who said that? that’s mean), but the guy knows how to pitch at the major league level and has been consistent, even if consistently just-decent with a one-year splash of good, most of his career. Being consistent at the major league level is something Davies, talented as he is, is not. Not yet.

And the Braves _ or Davies _ probably can’t afford to have him go through another rollicking ride of highs and lows, with three-inning shellings that tax the bullpen and put the defense on its heels and suck the life out of a team in the early part of the season.

Davies could certainly benefit from having a couple months, or more, of solid, consistent performances at Richmond, to rebuild his confidence and remind him of how good a pitcher’s pitcher he can be.

He’s still too young and too talented to even begin to think about writing him off. I still think in a couple of years we’ll be looking at a solid major league pitcher and Davies will be talking about those first couple of seasons and what a great learning experience it was going through the struggles and injuries.

As for the bullpen… Again, as we’ve said for a while here, I think the last two spots, the only semi-available spots (though not really, if you know what I mean) entering spring training, will go to Tyler Yates, who’s out of options, and Chad Paronto, the “groundball guy” Bobby Cox likes to have (remember Kevin Gryboski, who stuck around long after he stopped being effective? Paronto’s effective most of the time, so he should stick a while).

Buddy Carlyle hasn’t given up a run this spring, but he’s a journeyman with barely half a season of major league service in 11 years of pro ball, including a couple of seasons in Japan. There’s usually a reason for that. Can some guys figure something out, or develop a pitch later in their careers, or just finally get the break they deserved? Yes, see Kenny Ray, or Peter Moylan. But….

But they’re not going to waive Yates to make room for Carlyle, who will likely go to Richmond and get a call at some point this summer, provided he’s effective down there. That’s what a performance like his in spring training can do for you _ move you to the front of the line when it comes time to call down to Richmond for help. If the bosses remember what you did in spring training, it helps.

Trade winds blowing? I don’t know. I suspect a deal will happen, but just haven’t heard any rumors yet from reliable enough sources to throw your way. But when I do, I’ll certainly share them. As we’ve said, Braves have middle infielders to spare, including out-of-options Tony Pena Jr., if any team will offer anything for him. But since teams know he’s likely to be waived, it’s tough to imagine the Braves will get much in return at this late date.

I know several teams are interested in Escobar and at least one or two in Prado, but don’t know if the Braves are willing to let either go for what they’ve been offered. Escobar’s stock has risen this spring, for sure, because he’s hit, fielded well, and demonstrated a better attitude than he had last year at Double-A Mississip.

And Prado has been talked up at every turn by the Braves, which to me sounds like they’re trying to get a team to bite on him as an every-day second baseman.

The Braves also have some extra bullpen arms they could trade, but again, it remains to be seen what teams will offer for the less-than-accomplished older guys that Atlanta has available.

Here’s one thing I can guarantee: Richmond is going to have a hell of a lot better Triple-A team than it did last season.

More on McCann…. Some of you remarked on my Brian McCann story and how astounded you were by the stats. Well, they’re even more impressive in full context. For instance, his .471 average (24-for-51) with runners in scoring position and two outs not only led the major leagues, but by a huge margin. Next-highest was some guy named Albert Pujols (.435), followed by Texas’ Michael Young (.426) and NL batting champion Freddy Sanchez (.421).

And in all situations with men on base, McCann led the majors with a .368 average, ahead of AL batting champion Joe Mauer (.367). Only other guys as high as .360: Derek Jeter (.366), Sanchez (.364), Pudge Rodriguez (.362) and Lance Berkman (.361).

McCann was in some tall cotton, indeed.

Jason Isbell was in fine form: Took a few hours away from work last night to see the Drive-By Truckers’ guitarist do a solo show at a great dive in Orlando. By solo, I mean without the other Truckers. But he has a crack band playing with him on this little tour, and the material is excellent, both the solo stuff off his upcoming album and, yes, a bunch of DBT songs.

Which really was a pleasant surprise. I mean, about 50-60 of us (that’s how many there were by the end) are standing in this hole-in-the-wall bar watching Isbell and his band play “Decoration Day” and “Outfit,” two of my favorite Truckers songs. And they closed with an ode to a Floridian, doing an excellent cover of Gainesville son Tom Petty’s “American Girl.” A good night.

Oh, one more note and a thank you: To all the bloggers, seamheads and pop-culture sponges who’ve made the Braves/Man in Black a pretty good place to hang out and engage in discourse about ‘ball, BBQ, J.R. (Cash) and other music giants, and Scorsese, Uma, Penelope and other luminaries of the silver screen. We won a Best of Cox (not from Bobby, from our newspaper chain) award for top blog. And that has at least as much to do you with you all as it does with me.

“DECORATION DAY” by Jason Isbell

It’s Decoration Day/And I’ve a mind to roll a stone on his grave.

But what would he say/”Keeping me down, boy, won’t keep me away.”

It’s Decoration Day/And I knew the Hill Boys would put us away,

but my Daddy wasn’t afraid/He said “We’ll fight till the last Lawson’s last living day.”

I never knew how it all got started/a problem with Holland before we were born

and I don’t know the name of that boy we tied down/and beat till he just couldn’t walk anymore.

But I know the caliber in Daddy’s chest/and I know what Holland Hill drives.

The state let him go, but I guess it was best/cause nobody needs all us Lawsons alive.

Daddy said one of the boys had come by/the Lumber Man’s favorite son.

He said, “Beat him real good but don’t dare let him die/and if you see Holland Hill run.

Now I said, “they ain’t give us trouble no more/that we ain’t brought down on ourselves.”

But a chain on my back and my ear to the floor/and I’ll send all the Hill Boys to hell.

It’s Decoration Day/and I’ve got a family in Mobile Bay

and they’ve never seen my Daddy’s grave./But that don’t bother me, it ain’t marked anyway.

Cause I got dead brothers in Lauderdale south/and I got dead brothers in east Tennessee.

My Daddy got shot right in front of his house/he had no one to fall on but me.

It’s Decoration Day/and I’ve got a mind to go spit on his grave.

If I was a Hill, I’d have put him away/and I’d fight till the last Lawson’s last living day.

I’d fight till the last Lawson’s last living day.

I’d fight till the last Lawson’s last living day.

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By NO CHOP ZONE

March 21, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

I’m first……

By kdbanks

March 21, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

How great is it that we have so much depth, and such good young depth. The Braves have had such a good run (note the present tense, not past) because, I believe, of the scouting department. Those guys (and gals?) must be the best in the biz, because we always have good young players that can either be traded for help or can step in and do the job we need them to do. I’m so jacked about this team and seeing some of the new faces go to work.

Congrats to all on the award, but especially you DOB. Keep it up!

By Mike Mc

March 21, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

I haven’t read too much on Roger McDowell this spring. How have the pitchers responded to him in his second year? Also, is Pendleton the next manager when Cox retires in two to three? It was hard not to vote for TP as the Braves all decade third baseman, but how do you not go with Chipper?

By Patrick

March 21, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

DOB,

Any more progress reports on Hampton? Last time you reported on him he was seemingly ahead of schedule, anything to follow up with in regards to his injury?

By brent

March 21, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

We hear so much about our sterling, young infield prospects …

what about outfielders?

Do we have anything out there?

Thanks

By NO CHOP ZONE

March 21, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

We’ll see how good it is when the season is done……

By David O'Brien

March 21, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

hey, speaking of McCann, I just got an e-mail saying he’s featured in a Men’s Health magazine article about player who had breakout seasons. Haven’t read it yet, but here’s the ridiculously long link (hopefully it works and doesn’t crash the U.S. Defense System computers in the process. I mean, geez, what a link):

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=fitness&category=sports&conitem=671e5f8e77b51110VgnVCM20000012281eac__

By Summerteeth

March 21, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

I love this place because I can do this and not get flamed for not talking sports…

Drown Son Volt

Sky cracks open, walls falling to the floor Just as well to keep it, a guessing game in store

You’re with me now, will be again All other points in between

And the cruel, cruel mornings Have turned to days of swim or sink

If living right is easy, what goes wrong You’re causing it to drown Didn’t want to turn that way You’re causing it to drown Doesn’t make a difference now You’re causing it to drown Silence knows, can’t drown a heart

Happenstance is falling through the cracks each day Too close now to change it Fool’s gold is lighter anyway

When in doubt, move on, no need to sort it out You’re with me now, will be again All other points in between

And I want to find the right side of you If living right is easy, what goes wrong You’re causing it to drown Didn’t want to turn that way You’re causing it to drown Doesn’t make a difference now You’re causing it to drown Silence knows, can’t drown a heart

When in doubt, move on, no need to sort it out You’re with me now, will be again All other points in between

And I want to find the right side of you If living right is easy, what goes wrong You’re causing it to drown Didn’t want to turn that way You’re causing it to drown Doesn’t make a difference now You’re causing it to drown Silence knows, can’t drown a heart

By jay

March 21, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

DOB, fine work as always. I was wondering if you could elaborate on C. Jame’s potentional to duplicate his last season dominance of last year. Is there a so-called “sophomore slump” for pitchers once everyone has film or has scouted the guy? I know James is not as physically gifted as some of the other pitchers, but I wanted to get your take on whether his success is truly sustainable. Still more than a little concerned about that rotation.

By JoeCraigMcMurtry

March 21, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Yo DOB, You ever listen to Ramsay Midwood? If not, I’ll send you a link to a couple tracks…

By David O'Brien

March 21, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Brent, Braves have a legit close-to-being-ready OF prospect in Brandon Jones, who has a couple of doubles and a homer in nine or 10 at-bats this spring when brought over from minor league camp.

He can play any of the three positions, very good athlete with a strong arm and good speed, good power potential. Rated the No. 4 prospect in the organization over the winter. They also have a couple of lesser prospects a bit further down in the system, but Jones is the one who could be a factor by next year.

Of course, what you do when you have quality and quantity at one position (infield) is trade from that position of strength to get prospects in another area.

By Bryan from Kansas (Go KU)

March 21, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

David, Even if they traded Pena or Escobar, who or what could it be for?.. We dont really need anything on our major league club, I dont think. I guess maybe a left fielder that hits .325 with 30 homers and 100 plus rbi’s…or something close to that..lol…Who would they try for, or would it be for prospects?

By Kieran from Long Island

March 21, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

David, I heard you last year on the Michael Kay show when the Braves were up in the bronx. Out of curiosity have you ever done the Mike and the Mad Dog radio show, which also airs on the YES network? I think you would be a good spot for them when the Braves come up and play the Mets. We should try and set that up.

By Shaun

March 21, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Of course, you’d rather Davies be totally healthy, but his injuries could be a blessing in disguise down the road. He hasn’t had any arm injuries and these injuries may keep him from overworking his arm while he’s still young.

You’re right O’Brien, Davies is too talented to write off. His numbers that matter look good (K rate, BB rate, HR rate) and a lot of smart people who know a lot about player evaluation like him a lot.

I think it’s only a matter of time before Davies is a presence on the Atlanta staff, maybe an ace before too long.

By N8

March 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Bryan from Kansas (Go KU)

I don’t think you can EVER have enough pitching in your system.

Not sure we’d get anything other than a pitching “prospect” for either of them.

But to me, you trade an area of depth for an area of “weakness”. I’m not saying that pitching is our weakness, but if there are NO glaring weakness, my vote is to stockpile as much young pitching as possible.

Worst case scenario, you can turn around and trade that young pitching for an area of need, down the road.

By Robert (Justice Is The Best)

March 21, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

First of all, DOB congratulations on the Best Blog Award. This is by far the best sports blog around. Its not even close.

Now, as for the roster situation and in particular the pitching. I have a scenario to throw at you and see if it makes sense. Okay, here it goes:

Lets say that Cormier continues to pitch well and Tyler Yates pitches well out of the pen. Obviously, when Hampton comes back he is going into the rotation and it doesn’t really make a lot of sense to place Redman on waivers unless he is absolutely stinkin up the joint, which is unlikely. So, could the Braves keep Cormier on the 25 man roster whether in the pen or rotation and then package Yates and either Orr or Prado in a deal that could bring some prospects or a piece that could be needed at the time?

I know you said a trade is in the works but I am beginning to think the Braves will hold on to their plethora of middle infielders….for now. I think the Braves will find it hard to trade T. Pena simply because, as you said, teams know the Braves will have to place him on waivers. The only way a trade could happen is if its to a team that finished in the top half of the standings and I have racked my brain and can’t think of one team that would really need him. A team like the Mets could use him but obviously that trade would never happen.

Also, is it possible that Brandon Jones is getting a tryout so the Braves can gauge whether to seek a trade for Andruw’s replacement or if he could be the guy next year?

By Lew

March 21, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

DOB-Decoration Day is my favorite Trucker’s cd. I particularly like Sinkhole-best song talking about Southern cuisine since Wet Willie’s Leona. Any song talking about sweet tea and ‘nanner pudding’s got to be good. See, all this dieting has me thinking about food. Hillbilly-Don’t worry-we don’t have enough snow to qualify for The Shining. I’ve just got a bad head cold and feel like maybe Eugene SHOULD show up with that axe. Don’t think I’ve got the strength to resist. Coach-Hopefully, as the season progresses, we’ll have reason for you to admit you were wrong about Cormier. Not yet, though-but he is looking good.

By Lew

March 21, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Shaun-Maybe in a couple of years, we’ll have a rotation of James, Davies, Harrison, JoJo Reyes and Cormier? Could happen.

By ERIC

March 21, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

DOB:i think redman will be a very very valuble asset as the season unwinds, he’s very smart pitcher. Hudson to me is the biggest concern,to say we need him at his former form is an under statement,but other than this i see the rotation in good not GREAT shape.

Dave,you ever heard Scott H. Biram from Austin TX he s a one man band guitar pickin blues demon,and a very close friend/tour mate of HankIII. this guy is amazin listen to his new album Graveyard Shift is like a warped trip through Dixe in a pack of old ford pickup cown a cotton field dirt road, this is truely music for the southern soul.

By GT80

March 21, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

DOB, one thing I haven’t seen any thing about this Spring but was reminded of by the McCann story is who is going to be the back-up catcher? You know Bobby will start the back-up every 5th day no matter how great McCann is or how horrible the back-up is. Please tell me we won’t go through another year with Todd Pratt.

By Lew

March 21, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

There’s a great article by Tom Verducci on SI.COM. He talks about how life has changed in baseball and why the Yankees’ philosophy just isn’t working anymore. He says there are only six teams (Wash., KC, DRays, Reds, Pirates and Orioles) who can’t make the playoffs. He also thinks there are 15 teams that could win the Series, though he doesn’t mention which. He thinks the series this year will be an LA Series. We’ll see. Check it out. He makes some great points.

By Arkansas Hillbilly

March 21, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Carroll Rogers has got the “Blues.” Go ahead girl.

DOB, Speaking of Blues, did Isbell sing “Dress Blues” lastnight? I heard it on the net several months back and loved it. But I’ve only heard it once.

Summerteeth

I love this place because I can do this and not get flamed for not talking sports…

No but you can get praised for it. Excellent Pick…I’ll have it rockin’ out the truck window on my way home for lunch in a minute.

Two kick-@$$ songs on one blog?… It’s gonna be a good day.

By David O'Brien

March 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

GT80, Todd Pratt is long gone. Signed a minor league contract with the Yankees this winter. Brayan Pena is penciled in as the backup catcher, though the Braves have at least noticed veteran Corky Miller’s prodigious batting-practice displays this spring and his veteran skills behind the plate and in the clubhouse. I still don’t get the impression that anything’s changed regarding the plan to have Pena as the backup, but Miller could be an option at some point this year….

Eric, I haven’t heard Biram, but have heard OF him. I gotta hear some of that. A friend of Hank III’s must have some chops and taste….

Lew, loved the line about the kudzu. I can see some granola-head Vermont folks trying to make a salad out of that, huh? Or a new Ben & Jerry’s flavor, perhaps.

By KC

March 21, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

DOB is unfortunately correct in saying that Hudson’s been shaky at times despite good numbers.

The good news it’s not at all unusual for a pitcher not to be in mid-season form mid-way through spring training. The other good news is that in each of Hudson’s last two starts, he was able to make mid-game adjustments on the mound, and finished very strong.

He looked dominant in the last inning of his last outing. I’m hoping he’ll build on that this Friday.

By MBATL

March 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

DOB, congrats on the award. Good to see that your hard work in support of this blog is recognized. Are you gonna share the prize money with your regulars?

I agree with you on the rotation. I think Redman will be very mediocre, at best. But, he’ll probably be predictably mediocre - good for 5-6 innings, allowing 3-4 runs, more often than not. That’s a high era, but it’s a manageable game, given our ‘pen and offense. Davies seems to be too proned to the occasional (or frequent) horrible outing.

No need to give up on Davies - he’s still young, but he’ll probably benefit from regular work in the minors.

Regarding Hudson, watch him when he’s got runners in scoring position and a decent hitter at the plate. Seems to me he still lacks an out pitch… when he has to throw strikes, he has to work too hard to get the out, and too often ends up getting hit (usually after 3 or 4 foul balls). Maybe it’s the lack of movement on his pitches discussed in the last blog.

By Billy

March 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

I understand what you are saying about Buddy Carlyle. But what else do you have to do? Ten innings, no earned runs. Professional demeanor.

By Inside Guy

March 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

I can now confrim that this blog has and will recieve the award for Best of Cox for Blogs, which for those who do not know, is throughout the Cox family of papers.

Nothing new on Giles. Will keep informed.

By MizzouGuru

March 21, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

DOB:

Excellent job on your blog and stories as usual. It is difficult for me to understand how someone without a degree from MU’s J-School could do such a good job! :)

In my opinion, the Braves are probably looking to trade Prado which is consistent with Cox and JS pumping up and JS description of Prado as not being a super utility type.

My hope is that Boyer will go to Richmond, knock the dust off and Yates does a good job and they can trade Yates for a lil’ something and bring up Boyer. They are so loaded that I would think Stockman would be totally underutilized to be sitting in Richmond all year.

By Turnin2

March 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

DOB How can there be any doubt it will be Lance over Kyle? That’s pretty much the easiest decision Bobby should have to make this month.

I agree - Brandon Jones is a keeper. Better attitude if nothing else -reminds me of Charles Thomas in that manner.

Here’s hoping there’s a nibble for someone and Pena is the ‘bonus’ to get them to bite on a trade. Or maybe just a minors 1B for Pena straight up… aren’t we a little sparse long term after Scott and Kala Kaaihue at that position (Wilson not included)? Or if Prado is moved, maybe a veteran 3B for if/when Chipper does the inevitable this year. oops, sorry… ☺
Just would hate for all that training invested in Jr to be for naught like with Marcus….

Cya in Viera!

By StingerSplash

March 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Great call on going to see Isbell. As good a young songwriter as there is (and hasn’t he lost a great deal of weight), and Decoration Day and Outfit are great songs (just put in Southern Rock Opera in my truck’s CD player on the way back from lunch). So what are the odds - if Hampton and Davies are ready to roll at some point — that the Braves offload some pitching for help in other areas. Where those areas could be right now for the life of me I can’t see. Do they keep the affordable Redman around if Davies starts strong in Richmond, or do they possibly ship Davies? I don’t see that happening, given the age of two projected top 3 in the rotation. And Redman gives you what you want at the back of a rotation - someone who can eat up some innings.

By journalist jimmy smith

March 21, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

this journalist is sorry to hear that dob is suffering from horse hoof - but congratulates dob on the best of cox award for this fine blog.

hmmm… best of cox award coincides with the arrival of carroll rogers. hmmm…

By David O’Brien

March 21, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Grinch, laminitis is nasty stuff. And cost about $1,000 for the medication to cure it, at least until the generic brand comes out in a year or so. I’ll deal with horse hoof until then….

By BamaBrave

March 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

I was b*** and moaning via email yesterday with a friend and fellow Braves freak, ‘cuz I’m still p** over Hampton’s injury…and he made a good point. I definitely had a bad vibe about Hampton’s Tommy John recovery schedule. He did not sound like a man dying to get back on the mound. Could this oblique injury actually be a blessing in disguise? Could it give him the additional weeks he needs to get the elbow closer to 100%? Apologies in advance if this has already been discussed. Congrats on the Blogaward.

By Thrillhouse44

March 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Congrats on the award, DOB.

By MS

March 21, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

DOB, congrats on the BOC. The reason this blog is so great (to me) is because of your updates and responses throughout the day (and night!). Hardly any other AJC bloggers will update/respond to their blogs after posting something, and if they do, it’s nowhere close to the quantity and quality you give. I’m very appreciative of that, thanks.

Ferguson’s monologues aren’t consistently funny, but he is one of the best around at interviewing people. He has an uncanny ability to make people comfortable and bring the best humor out of them. I can see why you’d think he’s not “hilarious” from his monologues, but try to catch some of his interviews and I think you’d be impressed with that. I love Conan too, so I normally start there and flip back and forth (although I really don’t watch the Late Night shows enough anymore, unfortunately…)

By Braveheart

March 21, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

congrats DOB

By geauxbraves2000

March 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

I may have been ready to write Davies off last year, if so, just purely from frustration of the season. But, I’m reminded of a couple of guys named Maddux & Glavine who had a couple of rough years early also.

Is it April yet?

Geaux Braves!!

By Robert (Justice Is The Best)

March 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

BamaBrave, I think you are onto something. I don’t believe that Hampton ever thought that his elbow would be at 100% on opening day. He felt the pressure and obligation to be ready opening day because of the contract and the fact that the team needs him. I do believe the extra month will help him. The oblique injury has forced him to slow down a bit and make sure his elbow is totally healthy. This Tommy John recovery is just as much mental as physical. Mentally I don’t think he was near ready as much as he probably really was physically. But, as we all know the mental aspect can always override the physical. This extra month gives him time to get his mental approach right. And, yes, he and the Braves could be better for it in the long run!

By journalist jimmy smith

March 21, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

canned ham, right? best of cox award is a canned ham? dob shamelessly sent so many canned hams to ms. cox chambers trying to be a columnist that it only seems right dob would get a canned ham of his own for having the best blog. and where are the detractors today now that dob has this fine award? wurlitzer and best of cox - dob will need a larger cap. awards very much deserved for dedication to the blog and bloggers.

By The Grinch

March 21, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly, you drive a truck? Must be an SUV.

Lew, I seem to remember you ranting and raving the other day about how you never got sick. Hubris, my friend, shall be your downfall.

CL, thanks for the kind words.

DOB, how do you know so much about laminitis? Are you a Centaur? Ha! No…Chipper can’t be a Centaur; he’s too skinny. Julio Franco could be hiding a horse body in the seat of his pants, but he doesn’t have hoof problems. Perhaps the Mets have a better staff of grooms and hostlers. And does this best blog award mean we’ll get a raise, or will we continue to be paid like “small-market” bloggers in comparison to blogs from NY, LA and Boston? I contend we deserve more if for no other reason than that we speak pie. That, oh blogmeister, speaks volumes about our character.

By Matthew, Walter's Dad

March 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Hey DOB:

I have found a blogger who is copying you, posting music lyrics at the end of his post.

Scott Miller at CBS Sportsline:

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/bull_pennings

See, everybody wants to blog like the DOB.

Go Braves!

By Shaun

March 21, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Lew,

To try to stir up some dissent for lively discussion, I’ll bring this up: baseball really hasn’t changed as much as people think. It’s always been about haves and have-nots but in the free agent era it’s also always been possible for smart, smaller revenue teams to contend.

In the early 1990’s, the Yankees management did a lot of smart things and George Steinbrenner stayed out of the way, which created the super Yankee teams of the late 1990’s. And when the richest of the rich get smart, chances are they are going to be dominant for a few years.

The Yankees have struggled in recent years because they insisted on blowing a lot of money on mediocre pitching.

Things have seemed to change a lot lately, in terms of parity, for three major reasons:

1) More revenue to all teams. Things like satellite radio and TV and the internet have brought in a lot more revenue to every team. A lot more teams now have the opportunity to bid on and keep big-time players.

2) Teams have gotten a lot smarter. In-depth, advanced statistical analysis has made low-budget teams a lot smarter. Those teams now know more than ever about how to acquire cheap talent, which helps even the playing field. Teams also now know more than ever about which abilities and skills really matter to winning and which don’t, which makes it easier to know which players to draft and which to avoid, etc. The first year player draft matters more than ever to bad teams. Last place teams now have a good idea which players have the best shots at short paths to the bigs.

3) Expanded playoffs. Most baseball fans realize that anything can happen in a short series. It’s not too surprising when a good team (like the ‘06 Cardinals) beats a better team (like the ‘06 Mets) in the playoffs. It never has been, but now the chances of a truly great team losing in the playoffs increases with an extra series. A couple of bad plays could lead to a loss in a seven-game series and has a better chance to lead to a loss in a five-game series.

By MBATL

March 21, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

BamaBrave, RJITB, I’ll buy that. Hampton seemed psyched out at having to be ready April 2 - his outlook changing with every throwing session.

Who knows what’ll happen with him, but I don’t think the oblique is a bad thing, in the long run. Now he can come back from the dl and make as many starts as needed in the minors, on a rehab assignment. Hopefully, we won’t be in a position where we have to rush him back.

Billy, spring training is an audition, but it’s not the only audition. Carlyle just needs to keep doing what he’s doing and he’ll get his chance, here or somewhere else.

By Robert (Justice Is The Best)

March 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

I know what I’m going to hear but I am going to say it again. I still think Rocco Baldelli could be a possibility. Here is why I say that. Lets say that Cormier continues his impressive start and Yates does do well. The Rays could then be more receptive to a deal because Cormier is young enough to become a staple in the roation and Yates definitely is a quality arm in the bullpen. The Braves could also throw in Prado which allows the Braves to keep Escobar and the Rays could plug Prado in at 2B, which would allow them to move Jorge Cantu who will be becoming to expensive and not worth the salary. Just a thought.

By Jake

March 21, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

DOB: Congrats on the blog award from Cox. You are most deserving. This blog not only keeps me up-to-date on all things Braves, it (and baseball) also keeps me sane half the time! You’re doing well, sir.

By wuky

March 21, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Bamabrave and Robert: How could Hampton not be mentally or physically ready by now?

Because if he wasn’t ready to pitch (aside from the oblique injury) this spring, what’s an extra few weeks going to do when he has already sat out for well over a year???

By Rosalynn

March 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Jimma is thrilled foah you, DOB! Jimma nevah won the Best of Cox awahd but did pick up the Nobel Peace Prize a few yeahs back. Jimma thinks you should have Lew draw a pohtrait of you weahing this awahd. Of couhse, if it is realla a canned ham weahing it would be inappropriate. Jimma and I ah hoping Anne had a medallion created for this awahd. A medallion would be a good awahd for a baseball beat writah who writes his own blog. Plus, a medallion is useful in manah wahs when on the road doing journalism. I wondah if you could do one thing foah me todah? If that nice boah Thohman is gonna be plahing fihst base this yeah, Jimma is gonna want to shahe some peanuts with Thohman between innings. I have read that Thohman is Canadian. Do you think he will eat goobas with Jimma? Could you ask him and get back to me?

By Odog

March 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

I was at the Isbell show as well last night. Your right about the bar- a cool little dive. First time seeing a Trucker solo. His new material was ok but not as brilliant as his DBT stuff which I wish he played more of. His band I would only call adaquete. To me it sounded as if they were still becoing familiar with each other. God Damn lovely love,dress blues, outfit were all highlights. I thought American Girl was a bit obvious kinda overplayed in my opininon. Would rather of heard John Henry or Danko.

By Arkansas Hillbilly

March 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Grinch,

4wd Dodge Ram.

DOB

This was my lunch break, inspired by you, Summerteeth, and Lew.

  1. Son Volt— Drown on the way home. (I only live three minutes away from my job.)

  2. DBT— Live at the 40 Watt DVD at the house while eating. Flipped to these songs:

Decoration Day, G.D. Lonely Love, Danko/Manuel, Sink Hole, Women Without Whiskey, Shut Up and Get on the Plane, and Marry Me—Including the part where two people get married on stage with Cooley as the master of ceremonies. Cooley, ordained?

  1. Then Danko/Manuel again in the truck on the way home. This time Live at Cooley’s House acoustic version.

By Micah

March 21, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Ticket Loss Update:

Justin, and not Jeff, at the Atlanta Braves Ticket Office has been able to procure a new set of tickets for me after I, previously, had accidentally dumped them in my trash at home.

Many thanks to the generosity and kindness of our Grade A Braves organization!

Now back to your regular programming.

Go Braves!

By DonCoburleone

March 21, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

“Regarding Hudson, watch him when he’s got runners in scoring position and a decent hitter at the plate. Seems to me he still lacks an out pitch… when he has to throw strikes, he has to work too hard to get the out, and too often ends up getting hit (usually after 3 or 4 foul balls). Maybe it’s the lack of movement on his pitches discussed in the last blog.”

EXACTLY! And then that drives up his pitch count and he’s exhausted by the 5th inning every time out. That is exactly what happened last year. The only games he gave an “Ace” like performance are games where the ground balls were finding gloves; when they found holes Hudson got in big-time trouble. I say 14-10 with an ERA of 4.1 - 4.3 is what we should expect out of him this year; Good enough to be labeled a quality 3rd starter or a mediocre 2nd starter, but certainly no ACE…

It just sucks we’ll be paying him ACE money after this year…

By flange1

March 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Hi All,

DOB, congratulations on the blog award. It is well deserved. I will echo the sentiment that your continuous input is what makes the blog so interesting. Yours is the only baseball blog that I spend time on.

In terms of a trade, I know the Braves and Bobby Cox REALLY like Boyer. I know that right now, there is little chance that he will make the majoe league team. Do you think that JS might package Tyler Yates, Pena and someone for prospects and let Boyer stick on the major league team? I wonder if he would be better off taking the 8th inning at Richmond, let Devine have the 9th and see how they do..

Thoughts?

By Thrillhouse44

March 21, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Here’s a link from SI. It’s supposed to be a preview of the Braves’ season, but focuses on Frenchy and McCann’s friendship. (They picked the Braves to finish second to the Mess by the way.) http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/specials/spring_training/2007/previews/braves.html

By StingerSplash

March 21, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Hey! There’s even a picture and a handful of sample blog entries on the site and some prose about the Man in Black blog! Aren’t exclamation points great! www.coxnews.com.

By BamaBrave

March 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

wuky: I guess that’s the point… One would certainly think Hampton would be ready now, and fired up about it, but everything I read prior to the oblique injury sounded like it came from a man loaded with doubt - maybe even a little fear. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be concerned too. And I’d be feeling the pressure to perform, and perform now. I guess what gets me now is the fact that two of our veteran starters - Hampton AND Hudson - are dealing with some serious head games these days. Not good. And certainly not what JS expected to be paying for.

By TheSouthernJackAss

March 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

“Best of Cox”—must be an award for largest quantity of ‘page hits’—in no way could it be for quality of substance…

By flange1

March 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Robert (JIB), I agree with your thinking! I think that is the kind of deal that JS is looking for. Quantity for quality!! Maybe Rocco or someone like him.

Did you see on Buster’s blog that the Rays moved Crawford to leadoff and Rocco to batting third?????

Interesting!!!

By Lew

March 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

DOB-Yeah, something like Grace Potter’s Kudzu Blues Delight or something. However, one thing Vermont does not lack is ground cover. We’ve been up here for six years, in which time they’ve given the approval to build at least four new homes. Knocked the cable out all four times, too.

By BamaBrave

March 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Braves as wild card…hmmmmm. I’d take that.

By Carroll

March 21, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Anyone else watching BoreSox/Pirates on ESPN? Kolb is pitching and doing what he does best….came in and walked the bases loaded. Makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit just thinking about him in a Braves unie.

I honestly feel for the guy though. You can tell he is capable, but he is just an absolute mental wreck.

By The Grinch

March 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Yes! The Falcons are trading Matt Schaub. They will have a fat stack of draft picks, and maybe they won’t screw all of them up. Hillbilly, please don’t tell me you’re responsible for the gross overplaying of that rock ‘em sock ‘em robots commercial. That was darn near as annoying as The Truck Commercial That Shall Not Be Named. I still contend Hudson’s problems began when the ban on speed began. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and pitches like a duck…

Off to the gym.

By DonCoburleone

March 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

“Regarding Hudson, watch him when he’s got runners in scoring position and a decent hitter at the plate. Seems to me he still lacks an out pitch… when he has to throw strikes, he has to work too hard to get the out, and too often ends up getting hit (usually after 3 or 4 foul balls). Maybe it’s the lack of movement on his pitches discussed in the last blog.”

EXACTLY! And then that drives up his pitch count and he’s exhausted by the 5th inning every time out. That is exactly what happened last year. The only games he gave an “Ace” like performance are games where the ground balls were finding gloves; when they found holes Hudson got in big-time trouble. I say 14-10 with an ERA of 4.1 - 4.3 is what we should expect out of him this year; Good enough to be labeled a quality 3rd starter or a mediocre 2nd starter, but certainly no ACE…

It just sucks we’ll be paying him ACE money after this year…

By flange1

March 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Hi All,

Interesting column by Jayson Stark about players who could be moved. The only Brave of note was Ryan Langerhans… Maybe if you lumped him in with Yates you could get something special???

By Christopher

March 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Dave,

Another website is saying that Smoltz is disenchanted and will not sign a home town discount contract next year. Have you heard anything on this topic?

By Not-A-Blogger

March 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Congratulations Dave, and to all you blog denizens.

As a daily reader who seldom posts, I love coming to this “place,” where I’m entertained, intrigued and even educated a little.

Thanks to all.

By Carroll

March 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Grinch: I PRAY that you don’t know what you’re talking about with Schaub. If they do trade him, it’s gonna be Brett Favre, part deux.

By ncscoots

March 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Hey, Robert, as long as we’re fantasizing about trades with the Rays, I want Elijah Dukes instead of Baldelli. Attitude and all (which is likely to last all of about 3 minutes in the Braves’ clubhouse). I just don’t see Baldelli as the impact player envisioned by many on the blog. Dukes, on the other hand, will be scary good, IMO.

By Rodger

March 21, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

DOB, congratulations on the Best of Cox award. Does this confirm he is the prominent Brave who blogs? If so, is he really Robert? Might stand to reason, loves to hear everyone come to his defense…

Seriously, you make it worthwhile to chat, with info & humor. Thanks!

By Carroll

March 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Grinch: good point about Huddsy and the speed ban. I’ve ALWAYS said since hot got here that he looks like a meth head.

By TennesseePaul

March 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

DOB: As always thanks for the work. I’ve spent the better part of the morning catching up with the team, the players, the blogs, and the low down on everything I enjoy. All of this done with the comfort of knowing Montazuma has yet to vet his revenge. I’m amazed by the McCann info. I look forward to watching this guy play for the Braves for a long long time. Salty is going to have to kick some serious arse if he is to take Brian’s spot, which I doubt he ever will if McCann keeps this up.
Alright, back to the golden beaches of San Jose Del Cabo. If anyone is intrested and has a lady to bring with you, I recommend staying here. It’s just perfect.
In a day I fly to Atlanta for a wedding. Crazy times.

By Braveheart

March 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

I think a good, thought provoking and interesting blog needs a good, thought provoking, and interesting leader who keeps his bloggers responsible and accountable to themselves, to the blog, to the fellow bloggers, to the newspaper, to this city, to the South as a whole, and to the team.

What makes this blog great is that DOB does all of these things.

A good blog leader who takes pride in his blog will create bloggers who also take pride in the blog and who will build it and maintain it together with the leader.

Unfortunately, as we often see in other blogs, bloggers left on an island to fight each other with no one to hold them accountable, will turn the darn blog into the internet version of the Lord of the Flies.

DOB/ODB is a one of a kind blogger. That’s why we call him the DOB, Dirty Old Bastard, ‘cause as Method Man said, there ain’t no father to his style.

Again, a bit congrats is due you DOB. Thanks.

By MBATL

March 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Crawford to leadoff, eh? So… with Cormier’s newfound effectiveness, Buddy C making waves, Hampton making good progress on his recovery, and Kyle Davies destined for the farm, do the Braves bite the bullet and send James, Prado and maybe Diaz to TB for a fleet-footed, strong hitting OF who can replace AJ next year?

Just asking!

By Braveheart

March 21, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Is anyone else holding their breath to hear Robert’s wicked interpretation of what it means to be the best of Cox?

By JohnBama

March 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Robert I have to agree with you. I think that the Braves need to at least poke the coals a little and see if there is anything that can be done with Baldelli. Sure Langerhans is great defensively and MAYBE he will hit….and sure MAYBE the journeyman Diaz will hit this year (you know for whatever reason he could not get a job in KC of all places) but are you really willing to bet on that?

I just think that with the questions that could be asked about Johnson and Thorman and the leftfield position, not to mention the lead off situation Baldelli makes a ton of sense. Maybe too much so because it is so obvious.

By Rodger

March 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Carroll, the only differene is Favre sucked when he was here…

By Braveheart

March 21, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Lord of the Flies moment, if I may be allowed:

STFU about Baldelli already!!!!!

PLEASE!!!!

Good Freaking God!!!!

Sorry, everyone but I think most agree with me.

By Braveheart

March 21, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

correction: meant big congrats not bit congrats up above.

By Robert (Justice Is The Best)

March 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

I was reading Jayson Stark’s column just now and a very interesting name came up on his of available players to be traded before spring training was over. The name of Ryan Langerhans was listed. Now, at first glance I said no way in hell but then again I gave it some thought. Such a move would almost certainly mean that Diaz would be the everyday LF unless the Braves plan on using another OF or acquiring one through a trade. Craig Wilson’s arthritic shoulder is going to disallow him play much in LF.

Now, the questions would be is Diaz’s spring batting avg troubling? I say no. He’s proven he can hit in the Bigs and his defense while not the best is most certainly not as bad as others suggest. The other question would be is Langerhan’s spring batting avg for real? I say no to that as well but he is a better hitter than he showed last season.

Langerhans would be quite an attractive outfielder for a team with adequate offense already in place because of his defense.

Here are a list of teams that I think could use him as a starter or third outfielder. Not saying that these teams are compatible for a trade but teams Langy could play for: White Sox, Astros, Angels, Giants, Twins, Devil Rays, Blue Jays, Padres, and Rangers.

Personally, I don’t think Langerhans is going anywhere.

By Bravo

March 21, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

*EXACTLY! And then that drives up his pitch count and he’s exhausted by the 5th inning every time out. That is exactly what happened last year. The only games he gave an “Ace” like performance are games where the ground balls were finding gloves; when they found holes Hudson got in big-time trouble. I say 14-10 with an ERA of 4.1 - 4.3 is what we should expect out of him this year; Good enough to be labeled a quality 3rd starter or a mediocre 2nd starter, but certainly no ACE…

It just sucks we’ll be paying him ACE money after this year…*

i disagree…I think he will be better this year. Lets just hope he does! The up coming season depends on Hudson performance all along, not Hampton’s come back.

By journalist jimmy smith

March 21, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

oh, the humanity! a photo of dob! diane lane was right!

http://www.bestofcox.com/2007/html/combined/blog/index.html

By Lew

March 21, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Grinch-Is hubris a virus? If so, you may be right and that’s what I have. Is there a vaccine. Does it make you cough? I have sore ribs from all the coughing.

By journalist jimmy smith

March 21, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

lew, this journalist mailed a poultice this morning. a powerful ugandan poultice. if the snow is melting in vermont the poultice should arrive before the weekend. apply liberally and stay off the furniture! small animals should remain outside. good health!

By journalist jimmy smith

March 21, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

no wonder the toe health on this team is bad! look at that photo on the ajc.com braves page of kyle davies trifling with toes using a strong rubber band. that cannot be good for toe health.

By Judy

March 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

I’m a bit behind and just read where Chipper was “surly” with reporters when he pulled his oblique. Nothing strange about that as Chipper is surly every day of his life. He is not a credit to the Braves or men in general. Trade the accident prone freak.

By flange1

March 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

JJS, The picture of DOB is great! Now we can put a face with a blog name.

Lew, GET BETTER!

Robert (JIB) Maybe Braveheart and NCscoots are right, let’s forget Rocco and Crawford, maybe we should be looking at Elijay Dukes!

By SourPatchKid

March 21, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

They should have traded Schaub and Davies to Tampa Bay for Carl Crawford

By Dave knockahomer

March 21, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

Congrats on the award!

well deserved. DOB—your blog is the cure of winter time blues!

By Lew

March 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Esteemed Journalist-Thanks for the poultice. I’ve never tried a Ugandan remedy before, but at this point, I would be willing to try almost anything. Too bad I can’t just drink a couple of shots of Jack and just knock myself out. Now Journalist’s photos (how’s that for a transition, Scribe?)-Don’t you think with a cigar in his mouth, DOB could get a part as one of the Sopranos? Guido the Newsman or something. When will they ask for OUR photos to post on the blog?

By ncscoots

March 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Geez, David, hoodahthunkit? You actually LOOK like a baseball writer (not a sportswriter, different animal altogether). Throw on a battered fedora, clamp down on half an unlit stogie, and shades of Ring Lardner! LOL…

By 22oz

March 21, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

It just sucks we’ll be paying him ACE money after this year…

Hudson’s salary is actually fourth or fifth starter money after this offseason.

By Lew

March 21, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

WinterTime Blues-Eddie Cochran, right? Also covered by Blue Cheer on Vincebus Eruptum and by the Who on Live At Leeds.

By Shaun

March 21, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Schaub to the Angels for Chone Figgins.

Vick to the D-Rays for Baldelli and Crawford.

By Jared

March 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

The Baldelli thing is so over. One story on the official site back on December 10 and some people can never let it go.

Here is what I think: Baldelli will not be on the Braves anytime during the 2007 season. The Braves have three leftfielders with Diaz, Langerhans and Wilson. Andruw and Francoeur are locked in, plus the Braves have Blanco, Bohn and Brandon Jones in the background. The Braves aren’t going to give up real quality for another dang outfielder, one who’s OBP is way too poor to be a leadoff hitter (which is why some still have this obsession with him.)

Baldelli is not coming. Get over it.

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