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DEL.ICIO.USReitsma leaving, Kelly J. moving
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
At the risk of spoiling the New Year’s celebration for many of you, l’m going to cut to the chase and tell you that Chris Reitsma will not be returning to the Braves.
OK, stop the derisive applause.
This according to the beleaguered reliever’s agent, who told me Sunday that Atlanta wasn’t among the dozen teams that expressed interest in Reitsma after the Braves non-tendered him last month.
Agent Mike Paolercio said six teams have made “legitimate offers” for Reitsma, who posted an 8.68 ERA and .362 opponents’ average in 27 appearances before the All-Star break, then went on the DL and had season-ending elbow surgery.
He’s been throwing off a mound since September and plans to be at full strength for spring training. But the Braves, in probably the best move for all parties given Reitsma’s performance and fall from favor here, apparently decided to cut the cord.
GM John Schuerholz said three weeks ago, when arbitration-eligible Reitsma and Marcus Giles weren’t offered contracts, that the Braves might try to re-sign Reitsma to a lesser contract (he could’ve expected $2 million-plus through arbitration). Not happening.
“I have not heard from the Atlanta Braves whatsoever,” Paolerico said. “I’m assuming at this point they did not want to follow up on that.”
He said he’s well into negotiations with “several teams” including Cincinnati, where Reitsma was a setup man, closer and fan favorite before being traded to Atlanta before the 2004 season.
(Yes, he was a seriously popular pitcher in Cincy, much as Dan Kolb was in Milwaukee and Bob Wickman in Cleveland. Hey, at least one of them didn’t see his career fall to pieces in Atlanta.)
Reitsma had stints as closer with the Braves but eventually blew ‘em all. He converted just 25 of 45 save opportunities in three seasons for the Braves.
There were some rough times in his tenure with the team, none worse than the day Reitsma was walking with his young daughter in their Newnan neighborhood when a guy in a pickup truck rolled down his window and shouted “You suck!” to Reitsma.
On the field, his performance since the summer of 2005 did, for the most part. He never made excuses, but after the elbow surgery he confided that the condition caused periodic numbness in his pitching hand since the World Baseball Classic last fall (that damn Classic _ did anything good come of it?)
Anyway, to his credit, Reitsma didn’t use the elbow as an excuse for the 2005 season, when he was NL Rolaids Relief Man of the Month in July, then the source of much antacid consumption by fans and team officials the rest of the season.
Talk about your precipitous declines, consider this epic fall: After converting 9 of 9 saves while posting a 1.04 ERA and .153 opponents’ average in 17 appearances July 1-Aug. 6, 2005, Reitsma had a 7.68 ERA and .358 OA in his final 51 appearances for the Braves.
He went 1-6 and blew 9 of 17 saves in that awful stretch.
He was often booed at home, but struggled even more on the road, posting a hard-to-fathom 11.39 ERA and .430 opponents’ average in his final 21 road games for the Braves, with 46 hits and five homers surrendered in those 21-1/3 innings away from Turner Field.
So again, it’s probably good it’s over here. You turn the page and hope the story gets better.
While most of you never met him, let me go on record as saying Reitsma was about as decent and good a dude as I’ve ever met in 12 years covering baseball. I know that probably doesn’t mean a lot to you, because, as I said, he did stink for most of his final 12 months here.
But next time he visits Turner Field, it really wouldn’t hurt to give him a little polite applause. Or at least quiet indifference. At least don’t roll down your window and yell obscenities at him. If you guys ever got to meet him and talk to him, you’d know what I mean. Good dude.
OK, moving on….
Just got off the phone with Kelly Johnson for a story I’ll probably do in the next couple of days, about his ongoing work at second base.
Kelly’s really excited and hopeful about the opportunity he might get to play second base and perhaps bat leadoff, though he’s quite to point out that no one’s told him anything definitive about the team’s plans.
Still, barring a trade that seems less likely by the day, it appears the Braves will go to spring training with Johnson, Martin Prado and perhaps Willy Aybar competing for the second-base job (though the Braves still seem to want Aybar to play plenty at both second and third base, spelling Chipper Jones from time to time in an effort to keep the veteran healthy).
Johnson was a shortstop in high school and in the minor leagues until a week before the 2004 season, when the Braves moved him to the outfield because they had infielders and because he’d made 45 errors in one season at Macon. But others before him also made an alarming number of errors on that notorious Macon infield, including Chipper (56, yes 56, in 136 games in 1991) and Giles (25 in 1998).
Point is, Johnson probably wasn’t as bad an infielder as we thought. He’s been working with coach Glenn Hubbard two or three times a week this winter at Turner Field, turning double plays, fielding grounders, doing everything he can to get comfortable on the right side of the infield.
It’s worth noting, Hubbard was instrumental in helping transform Giles from a minor leaguer who the Braves didn’t think could play major-league quality defense to a darn good fielder.
Johnson said he’s really starting feel good at 2B, and his elbow hasn’t been a problem (he missed the 2005 season recovering from Tommy John surgery). He sound confident and ready for the challenge, if the Braves are serious about using him there.
“I’m not working out there just to be able to play second base,” he said, “I’m working out to be good over there.”
For those who might have forgotten, Johnson hit .241 with 24 extra-base hits (three triples, nine homers), 40 RBIs and a .334 OBP in 87 games (290 at-bats) as a rookie outfielder in 2005.
Called to the majors in late May, he went 2-for-34 with two singles and one RBI in his first 12 games, but Bobby Cox stayed with him, pointing out how much he loved Johnson’s “setup” at the plate and noting how many balls he was hitting hard right at people.
Johnson hit .344 with 12 extra-base hits (six homers) and 23 RBIs in the next 24 games, with 19 walks, a .455 OBP, a 1.068 OPS and an NL Player of the Week award in that blazing stretch.
As first-time rookies are wont to do, he then went into a 2-for-24 slump, hit .165 with one homer over his next 22 games, and lost playing time to roommate and fellow Texan Ryan Langerhans, who finished his own rookie season with a promising surge.
It got largely overlooked, but Johnson finished that 2005 season by hitting .282 with a .378 OBP and .840 OPS over his final 29 games.
The kid _ Johnson will be 25 in February _ can hit, no question about it.
And Johnson said he’s learned a lot being on the sidelines, after watching all of the 2006 season from the bench or on TV, after seeing Langerhans struggle and Brian McCann put together a splendid All-Star season and Jeff Francoeur deal with some adversity, etc.
Johnson knows he needs to be more aggressive at the plate than he was as a rookie, and so far he said he feels stronger during his offseason hitting sessions.
Contrary to some reports _ and speculation from yours truly _ he’s not oversized for second base. Johnson said he’s 6 feet 1 and 200 pounds, significantly smaller than the likes of Jeff Kent, Chase Utley and, yes, Wilson Betemit.
If nothing else, it should be interesting to watch this spring. If I had to bet right now, I’d say Johnson’s got a good shot at being the opening-day second baseman, something I admit sounded quite far-fetched when last season ended….
OK, had to share this with you: A late entry into the quote-of-the-year contest, though more subtle in its ridiculousness than riotously funny. It’s from Orioles 3B Melvin Mora, to the Baltimore Sun’s Jeff Zrebiec, after the O’s signed Aubrey Huff during the weekend:
“I am excited if we can sign him, Mora said. “I think [Huff] can put up the same numbers as a $70 million player. He can hit over 20 home runs, plus he can drive in 100. This is the perfect guy to hit behind Miggy [Miguel Tejada].”
Over 20 home runs, 100 RBIs = $70 million?
Oh, my. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that some baseball players are detached from the real word.
“If I Had Known” by Greg Brown
A little creek you could spit across/Jimmy and me each took one more toss/our spinners bright in the evening air/People always said,/ There ain’t no fish in there
Well grownups they ain’t always right/Jimmy and me walked home slow that night/right down Main Street in our P.F. Fliers/with two 5 lb. bass making grown men liars
Jimmy if I had known/I might have stopped fishing right then
It’s just as well we don’t know/when things will never be that good again…
A hayride on an Autumn night/Well we was 15 if I remember right/We were far apart at the start of the ride/but somehow we ended up side by side
We hit a bump and she grabbed my arm/The night was as cold as her lips were warm I shivered as her hand held mine/And then I kissed her one more time
And Jane if I had known/I might have stopped kissing right then
It’s just as well we don’t know/when things will never be that good again…
She was older than me I guess/Summer was invented for her to wear that dress/I knew about risk and she knew about proof/and that night she took me up on the roof
We could see the lights of the little towns/We could watch the August stars come down/Shooting stars, meteorites…/We went on a ride through the sky that night
And, oh, if I had known…/I’d do it all over again
Some things just get better and better/and better than they’ve already been
Comments
By AJK
December 31, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this
DOB: Great end of the year post, and I’m excited to learn that KJ has a shot at being our everyday 2B. I have a lot of confidence in him and think he can contribute in a big way, though I’d prefer the Braves to acquire a true leadoff hitter (what’s up with the Baldelli trade?) and take some of the pressure off him in his 1st full year.
Happy New Year!
By elbravox
December 31, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
Happy New Year guys!
By PA Bravefan
December 31, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
That is good news. If he can play defensively, we may have a second baseman with pop, and average. I still think JS needs to be working on some seal to get Baldelli, and to try to unload AJ for a lot of top prospects. We will not resign him! I hate for him to go but next year Smoltz will also be a Free agent and it makes me sick to think we might not keep him!!
By Andy from Norcross
December 31, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
DOB,
What is the status on the Baldelli deal? Is that dead? Do you foresee any more moves for the Braves? Did you hear anymore with negotiations with the Rays? Were they insistent that we include James? Lastly, DOB, what have you heard about Liberty buying the Braves? Is that still on? Does Blank have a chance? The rumors have gone on forever.
By JSH
December 31, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
You’ve got to admit - in this market where JD Drew can get $70M offers … there’s a good probability that a team might get LESS than 20/100 for that price.
By Alex
December 31, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
Over 20 home runs, 100 RBIs = $70 million?
Oh, my. Don’t ever let anyone tell you that some baseball players are detached from the real word.
That’s actually J.D. Drew’s numbers from last year, and the value of the contract he just signed.
By Jared
December 31, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
Some random thoughts:
I hope Kelly Johnson can be the Braves’ primary second baseman.
What is with the ongoing Rocco Baldelli obsession? No one here was even talking about him at all, even mentioned him, until that story on the Braves’ official site about two weeks ago. Now it’s non-stop Baldelli talk. He is not that special and he won’t be a Brave. Trading Davies or James for him is not a wise move, in my opinion.
I still think the Braves need another bullpen piece. I trust Soriano, but it’s possible he could be hurt or something. Mike Gonzalez would be a perfect fit, and I’d get him even if it meant getting rid of LaRoche, whom I really like. I liked LaRoche long before he got hot in the second half of 2006, I felt like the only one at the time.
I’m disappointed at what Schuerholz has done, or in this case hasn’t done. What he has done is great, but with all the talk about pitching when the offseason started, I don’t like his one pitching-related move (Ramirez for Soriano), while good, doesn’t live up to all his talk.
Happy New Year everybody.
By MBATL
December 31, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this
Jared, JS also signed Wickman for ‘07… so we’ve added two strong relievers this offseason. What exactly SHOULD JS have done by now?
Really too bad about Reitsma. Everything I’ve heard is like what you said, DOB, a great guy. And he had good stuff. Injuries, head problems, wrongly used (he was a middle reliever, not a closer, in my opinion) … who knows. He was a good pickup when we got him, but just didn’t work out.
By John Adcox
December 31, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this
I think the Rocco Baldelli obsession has more to do with 2008 than 2007, not that I’d be disappointed to have hom out there now. But frankly, I like Johnson a lot. He entertains me (there’s that word again) the way Marcus Giles did, and I like to root for him. He’s the kind of player that makes me glad I bought a ticket.
Wow.
That story about the, er, rearend hole (what can I say on a family site?) in truck was a kick in the gut. I am a native Atlantan, and that kind of stuff just embarasses the heck out of me. This is the gracious, polite south, folks. Leave that behavior to our estranged brothers in Shea. Jeez.
DOB, if you ever happen to run into Chris Reitsma again, please apologize on my behalf. I very sincerely wish him well.
John
By David O'Brien
December 31, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
Andy, sorry but you’re asking a lot of questions that are almost impossible to answer. Haven’t heard a word about the Baldelli matter in a week, from either team (most teams pretty well shut things down during the Christmas/New Year’s week).
Tim Tucker has handled the sale story since Day 1, and frankly I’ve gotten numb to the updates just like most of you probably have. He’s trying hard to make sure we have any new development, but it’s just moved as such a glacial pace, with so very little bit of info coming out of any of the parties, and LIberty not willing to make any comments whatsoever. That’s just the way it is, a very complicated business decision involving mind-numbing tax matters and the like.
I haven’t heard any indication that Blank is back in the bidding, or that it’s been opened back up at all.
Although considering the way the Falcons have gone for two seasons, I could certainly see why he’d want to further diversify his sports holding (that’s just me offering a smart-a#@ comment. kidding. sort of.)
By Jared
December 31, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
I’m aware of that, MBATL. But all of John Schuerholz’s “focus on the pitching” talk came in early October, when the Braves’ offseason began. So all his talk came after Bob Wickman was locked up for 2007.
As for what he could have done, I don’t really know. I’m not the general manager, I don’t know what talks have been going on. But the Pirates were going to the Braves Mike Gonzalez, so that is one possible move.
By Eric
December 31, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
Johnson at 2B, given his work with Hubbard, will be “servicable.” Seeing as how that same term was used for Thorman in LaRoche rumors, I can live with it. Him (or any of the Startig 2B wanna-be’s) batting leadoff is yet another question mark.. The bullpen will be just fine. I think the young guys will benefit with Wickman out there just as young guys did with Smoltz years before. Baldelli is not going to happen, and doesn’t need to happen. TB won’t let any of them go for anything less than a Chuck James - and we don’t need to give him up. Besides, I live in Tampa and can tell you he’s a little over-hyped. Happy New Year.
By Ken Stallings
December 31, 2006 05:52 PM | Link to this
Whoever was driving that pickup was a loser in the first degree — to say that with his young daughter present — what a jerk! I pity people who cannot separate sports from reality like that.
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
December 31, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
I think if Johnson can handle the job defensively that he should get the nod. He can hit and is more than patient enough to be a leadoff hitter, if someone else can’t be acquired. I would rather have Johnson at 2nd than getting Castillo. I really think JS should pull the trigger on a LaRoche for Gonzales deal. See if the Pirates would throw in Gorzelany and if not go ahead and take McLouth. Gonzales would bring so much to the bullpen and make it the best in the NL. Think about how many times last year that leads get blown, ties were lost, and one run deficits turned into five run deficits and the game was over. A lot of those times didn’t happen in the 9th inning but the 7th and 8th innings. Yes, LaRoche’s offense will be missed but Thorman would be a suitable replacement who can at least get close to that type of production. Besides what does scoring tons of runs mean if you can’t keep the other team from scoring more.
Also, surely all things that went wrong in 2006 can go wrong in 2007. I know Mets fans will call it excuses but what I’m about to say are facts. The Braves had four regualar position players spend time on the DL. Langerhans played the majority of the season with a broken bone in his hand. Aybar had a broken bone in his hand, as well. The last month and a half Andruw was not really healthy nor was Francoeur if truth be told. Two-fifths of the opening day rotation spent more time on the DL than it ever did on the mound. The sixth starter, John Thomson spent the entire second half of the season on the DL and was hurt the entire first half. Chuck James was hurt a good part of the first half of the season and was only in the rotation for what amounted to two months. Blaine Boyer and John Foster, both of whom were being counted on heavily to contribute to the bullpen were hurt before the season ever started. Those may sound like excuses but they are simply facts. And before anyone says that all teams have injuries, check to see how many games potentially played the Braves lost to injury compared to other teams in the NL and then tell me if this team was ever at optimal level.
By journalist jimmy smtih
December 31, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this
let’s see … kj is working with hubbard to learn to play the position as well as he can - and prado and aybar still figure in with orr - and orr is working with mccann’s daddy to learn to put the bat on the ball - and pena jr is odd man out because he cannot strike the ball. woodward, as far as we know is super utility … backing up at ss and 3b and all o.f. positions - and no one else fits that bill. prado can play two positions as can orr and aybar can play three. that’s too many players. somebody’s got to go.
By Alan
December 31, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this
Great post, as always, DOB. Thanks for keeping us Braves junkies informed. I, for one, am sorry to see Reitsma go. I was at Disney (DOB’s evil empire) in March of ‘04, less than a week after the Braves acquired Reitsma, and I saw him pitch in a spring training game. He looked really, really good that day and he went on to have a good season. I believe he set a franchise record for appearances that year. Anyway, I wish him well wherever he lands. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s back in Cincy, but I hope it’s in the AL. As for KJ, I wish him well, too. I kind of think he’ll end up platooning with Prado unless the Braves make a trade or pick up a free agent such as Mark Loretta. I’m also amused by all the Baldelli blather - I read on another site today that the entire Devil Rays’ outfield has been the subject of trade rumors - maybe something will happen, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Get used to Andruw hanging around in ‘07 - which is a very good thing IMO - especially if all of think the Braves will be a serious contender. That’s not likely if AJ is elsewhere. Happy New Year, everyone.
By Spider29
December 31, 2006 06:33 PM | Link to this
I, for one, wish Reitsma well. Contrary to what most people think of him he did a good job as a set-up man. He tried to do the job that was asked of him in the closer role. It just didn’t work. Then the injury prevented him from helping the team in any way. Hopefully the Braves fans will be classy in their reaction to him in the future. I’m looking forward to seeing what Kelly Johnson can do at second. He should help us this coming season.
By David O'Brien
December 31, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
Alan, speaking of spring training, do you realize it’s only 6-1/2 weeks until pitchers and catchers report to Lake Buena Dark Star?
By Alan
December 31, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this
DOB, I wish I could join you at Lake Buena Dark Star this winter. Alas, I live in northeast PA and “they” don’t let me out much. I’ve been to Dark Star twice and it’s great fun. And the Braves have won every game I’ve attended, including a “thriller” over the Dodgers when young Adam LaRoche hit a grand slam in the 9th off some unknown Dodgers’ phenom. I know you’ll never admit it, but you have fun during Spring Training, too. Who wouldn’t? Oh, that spring of ‘04 was when Gary Matthews, Jr., played himself out of a Braves uniform. I think he was cut (in favor of Damon Hollins and DeWayne Wise) the day after I saw him play. Now he’s a multi-millionaire. Ain’t America great? BTW, GM’s dad (a former Brave, of course, and one of my all-time favorites) was recently hired by the Phillies to join their broadcast team.
By David O'Brien
December 31, 2006 07:10 PM | Link to this
Alan, yes, I definitely enjoy most everything about spring training. Just not where the Braves have theirs. But that’s alright. At least the weather’s nice.
Yes, how ‘bout Matthews Jr.? From not being able to beat out DeWayne Wise for a job in spring ‘04 to a $50 mill contract less than three years later. Amazing.
By br618
December 31, 2006 07:18 PM | Link to this
in defense of chipper, i worked as a stringer in columbus and saw him field a ball on the second base side of the outfield grass and get a throwing error, i saw him charged with other questionable errors during that year too.
By Mandolin
December 31, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this
I worked as a stripper in columbus, too, and saw quite a lot of Chipper. You are right about the questionable errors.
By Jared
December 31, 2006 07:37 PM | Link to this
Why is Disney the evil empire?
I’ve never been to Disney world/land by the way, so I’m neutral.
By Dawgs2006
December 31, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this
Thank God! It is about a year too late. Good Ridance, Loser!
By Don Williamson
December 31, 2006 08:14 PM | Link to this
I’ve been a constant fan of the Braves since 1982, and I wish 750 AM Radio would carry them again. I am a former minor leaguer and all american and am on the road much of the time during game time and can’t keep up with those 5000 watt stations. I used to hear the games all over the southeast. As a former middle infielder I vote for Kelly Johnson, I LIKE HIM.
By Steve Skelton
December 31, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this
Dawgs2006 is a fine example of what is WRONG with UGA fans (great comeback last night by the way…). Show some class there buddy. Reitsma is a class act that had a very rough year for us last year. We don’t need to be bashing the guy. If you can do a better job, why don’t you go down there and try out or see if they’ll invite you to Spring Training. Whoever that was that had the complete lack of class to insult Reitsma in front of his own child should be ashamed of himself. Was it you ‘06? Sounds like it might have been a friend of yours!! REAL sports fans support their teams and their players in both good and bad times.
By MGL
December 31, 2006 08:36 PM | Link to this
I live in the Orlando area, and “evil empire” is a perfect term for the Disneyworld area. The combination of traffic, jacked-up prices for everything, and tourists that don’t know where they are or are going makes the whole area a disaster. One of my daughters is a “cast member” at Disney and they treat their people like crap, pay as little as possible, and charge as much as they can for everything. While this is worst case, a one-day “park-hopper” ticket that allows you to go anywhere is now $107. Some of you complain about MLB prices etc. They learned it from Disney. The more you charge, the more people think that they have to come. “Evil Empire” is perfect!!
By ssiscribe
December 31, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this
Ah, Dark Star. Good times the past three years down there, including meeting Chris Reitsma his first day with the Bravos back in March 2004. Nice guy. Cincy would be a good place for him to go. I hope he turns it around.
Interesting news on Kelly Johnson. Personally, I’d not considered him too seriously for second base, but I love his swing and think he can develop into a great hitter. And a good point about him watching last year while being hurt: sometimes, when young players struggle, watching from the bench can help a player break out of a slump. Nobody wants to watch an entire season, but maybe Johnson observed enough to avoid the streaks we saw from him in 2005.
OK, off I go. Happy New Year everybody. All the Scribes (Momma Scribe, Little Scribe and Baby Scribe) wish DOB and the denzines a prosperous and blessed 2007. May the last week of October be special for us all, topped off with a party on Peachtree (of course, if the Thrashers wanna give us an excuse to party say, the third week of June, that’d be fine by me, as well).
The Scribe abides. Peace.
—30—
By KC
December 31, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this
In the previous blog, DOB wrote: “I’d just be willing to bet you that, entering the season, few national prognosticators would have the Braves atop their NL power rankings. That’s all I’m saying. Only one I’ve seen so far is Baseball Weekly (for what it’s worth, they have them 8th in the NL and fourth in the NL East, as of right now).”
DOB, I’m sure only a small percentage of baseball media types will place the Braves at or even near the top of their power rankings heading into the season… but 4th in the division??? Wow! That one floors me.
The problem with some “objective” observers is that they’re often very casual observers. In other words, they’re not paying much attention.
There will be many who will look at the Braves and say “A 79 win ball-team plus Rafael Soriano doesn’t equal a 90-100 win team, and they would be absolutely correct if that premise were accurate.
I’m guessing that the person who ranked the Braves 4th in their division next year must feel that Hudson will not fare much better next season, that Hampton will be a complete non-factor, and that the Braves middle relief will still be very shaky up to the 8th/9th innings. Any of those things could well be the case next year, but I think all are at the very least, somewhat unlikely.
There are numerous things I’ll bet the particular prognosticator you referenced has failed to realize. First, that if the Braves had Wickman and Soriano in their pen from day-1 last year… they would be coming off a 90-plus win season and a 15th consecutive post-season berth (Wild Card).
The second thing I’m sure he didn’t notice is that the Braves middle relief situation (not just the 8th and 9th) looks very promising. The 5 (likely) returning members of last year’s bullpen: Wickman, Yates, McBride, Villarreal, and Paronto posted a combined ERA of 2.31 in the month of September to end the season. Now normally, I might look at that and think “big deal, it’s one month”. But I believe the way McBride, Yates, and Villarreal finished the season is of particular significance, because I it seems to me that they used the 2006 season to establish themselves (or re-establish in Villarreal’s case). I believe they will carry those improvements with them into the 07’ season. Add Soriano, and the return of a good young arm in Blaine Boyer back into the mix… and I think the Braves pen looks fantastic heading into 07’. Add another quality lefty, and it’ll look even more fantastic, but wouldn’t you agree that the Braves pen already looks solid?
The third thing I’m sure he’s not taking into consideration at all, is the 18 month thing with Hampton. As you know, there is a huge difference between returning after 18 months vs. only 12… but I’ll bet real money that this factor is nowhere on his radar. If you’re going to rank a team with a great offense, solid bullpen, as well as a rotation that also includes Smoltz, Hudson, and James, fourth in their division… you must expect them to get absolutely nothing from Hampton this season. Even then, 4th is difficult to imagine.
I’ve said it many times, and I don’t mean to beat a dead horse… but it all comes down to Hudson and Hampton. If you expect good things from them, then I think it makes perfect sense to place them atop your NL power rankings heading into 07’. If not, well maybe you pick the Braves to finish 2nd… maybe even 3rd (if nothing pans out as planned for Atlanta). But 4th????
By brian
December 31, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this
DOB - nothing on the Andruw Jones front I assume after Boras put his finishing touches on that abdsurd contract Barry Zito signed? If he can get that for Zito I can only imagine what he is planning for Andruw.(actually I don’t think I have that big of an imagination)
By Jim
December 31, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this
Dear David and John (Scheurholz),
Don’t tell me how good Kelly Johnson is going to be as our 2B and leadoff hitter (IF-DOG-RABBIT). Here we go again… another one of John Schuerholz “pig-in-a-poke” moves. Kelly Johnson - can you say “NO Stolen Bases?” I know the way Schuerholz works now that Time Warner has chosen NOT to compete (Thanks Time Warner). A few weeks ago Schuerholz signed JOURNEYMAN Willie Harris in an under-the-radar move. Most Braves fan just didn’t fall off the turnip truck. Wee Willie Harris has a chance to be our starting 2B and leadoff hitter. That’s great, journeyman Harris CANNOT come close to hitting (batting avg.) his own weight and just like Kelly Johnson, Willie CANNOT steal bases. I’ve given up all hope of Schuerholz making a significant trade or signing to upgrade Braves for 2007. In fact, General George Custer had a BETTER chance at the Little Big Horn than Braves fans have of John making any trades. Now that Baltimore signed Aubrey Huff, there is no chance we can acquire Brian Roberts (a REAL leadoff hitter that CAN steal bases). Schuerholz and his Time Warner cronies are so proud when they acquired Rafael Soriano as their “dominant” setup guy. Yes, he was dominant UNTIL a rocket launched from Vladimir Guerrero’s bat crash landed on his skull late last season. Many MLB scouts have been quoted as saying Soriano has not been the same since. My point is the Braves could (coulda/woulda/shoulda) have traded for Mike Gonzalez from the PIRATES and HAD a dominant bullpen. However, the “Schuerholz who STOLE the hot stove season and HOPE” from Braves fans is NOT going to make and moves to improve the car crash from 2006. No Rocco Baldelli, no Mike Gonzalez, not even Georgia’s own Chone Figgins. Let me remind the brain trust at Turner Field that Baldelli and Figgins are REAL leadoff hitters that CAN steal bases. Don’t insult my intelligence and say Kelly Johnson is going to hit for an acceptable average, let alone steal bases. The navigational charts for the TITANIC had a better chance for success than Kelly Johnson and JOURNEYMAN Willie Harris being productive major leaguers. I’ve given up all hope for trades or upgrades because John’s track record has become too predictable over the past few years. No exciting trades or signing to IMPROVE the team. I’m to the point now where I believe John Schuerholz passes gas in elevators and gives rocks to “Jerry’s Kids” at Halloween. Thanks Time Warner. Mr. O’Brien (who I honestly respect) makes it sound like Kelly Johnson is the next Ryne Sandberg (once again… IF/DOG/RABBIT). What has John Schuerholz given us to get excited about for next year???@!$#%%$ Is it JOURNEYMAN Willie Harris, “Skull Fracture” Soriano, “Father Time” Bob Wickman, and please don’t tell me how good Kelly Johnson is going to be, I already now. Johnson at his best will have similiar statistics to Ryan Langehans - you know, the basic .240 BA and 6 HRs and NO SB’s (a real star). “Holla” long-suffering Braves fans if you hear my despair. Look for a clone 2006 season in 2007 based on this exciting offseason. THANKS John and THANKS Time Warner.
By TLJ
December 31, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this
I too wish Reitsma good luck where ever signs. I also like the idea of KJ playing 2 nd base. If he can handle it on defense I think we have something.
I think we should forget Baldelli, TB wants pitching and we don’t have any to spare. They are in the driver seat and unless they will reduce their demand, they should go look somewhere else. Wouldn’t it be great if Salty has a good season and TB regrets not making the deal.
There is no way I would trade LaRoche straigh up for Gonzalez and we do not need McLouth or Castillo. Like TB on Baldelli we are in the driver seat with LaRoche, if Pittsburg wants him they should be ready to trade Gonzalez, Gorzelany and a prospect.
I don’t see this happening.
Happy New Year everyone!
By Greg
December 31, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this
The funny thing is that we may find that Reitsma is really a great pitcher in another role on another team. Wouldn’t that be ironic?
By brian
December 31, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this
I agree TLJ - the Braves need to acquire top young pitching, not be giving it away. To be more specific, the Braves need top young starting pitching. Too bad the Braves could not have figured a way of getting Brandon McCarthy from the White Sox (I cannot believe they dealt him). The only way I would deal LaRoche is if we get a top young pitcher in return. Yes I would deal him straight up for Ervin Santana (though the Angels would not) and I would consider it for McCarthy (McCarthy and Kinsler would be a no brainer but of course it is a no brainer NO with a hang up from the Rangers).
The only way the Braves get a top young starting pitcher is with Andruw, and the only way Andruw gets dealt is for someone to show Boras the money. Hicks did it for AROD. Maybe he would feel like $150 million for 7 years would be a bargain.
Anybody want to call now what Andruw’s extension will look like and then next year at this time we can hear an “I told you so”
Happy New Year
By KC
December 31, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this
Jim: Good points but respectfully… you’re wrong. Particularly this statement:
“Look for a clone 2006 season in 2007 based on this exciting offseason.”
Had the Braves had Wickman and Soriano in the bullpen on opening day last year, we would be coming off a 90-plus win season, and a 15th consecutive post-season berth (be it Division champ or Wild Card).
That simple fact alone assures us that next season will not be the same. Add a healthy and completely recovered Mike Hampton back into the mix, along with a good young arm we’ll be getting back in the person of Blaine Boyer… and the pitching staff is already leaps and bounds better than the team that started last season. Consider also that the 5 returning members of last year’s bullpen posted a combined ERA of 2.31 in month of September to end the season. Guys like Yates, McBride, and Villarreal made clearly visible significant improvements toward the end of the season, and will likely carry those improvements into next season.
As for the leadoff man situation… dude, Giles was nothing to write home about in that role last season. Still, Atlanta was the best offensive team in the NL. The Braves will be near the top of the league offensively again in 07’, regardless of the leadoff situation.
So Jim, my friend, simmer down and don’t get your blood pressure up. The Braves will win better than 90 games next season. Bank on it. How many more (than 90) will depend on what we get from Hudson and Hampton, but this will be a good, competitive team next season.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
By Darren
December 31, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this
DOB,
Thanks for the heads up on the Whigs!
Have you heard the new Summer Hymns CD?
Darren
By jed
December 31, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this
kelly johnson has a good swing. he hit the ball well when he first came up, but kept hitting it at people. if you were watching, you saw that. and if you know what you’re watching, you could see the potential there. i see no reason why we couldnt go with a platoon at 2b. biggest question for me is LF. matt diaz showed he could hit last year, but he’s clumsy in the field. i’ve watched thorman & langerhans, and although langerhans is brilliant defensively, will he ever hit? if you go with thorman in the platoon, you’re gonna have bad defense in LF. thorman & diaz would have to tear it up at the plate to justify that.
By jed
December 31, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this
kelly johnson has a good swing. he hit the ball well when he first came up, but kept hitting it at people. if you were watching, you saw that. and if you know what you’re watching, you could see the potential there. i see no reason why we couldnt go with a platoon at 2b. biggest question for me is LF. matt diaz showed he could hit last year, but he’s clumsy in the field. i’ve watched thorman & langerhans, and although langerhans is brilliant defensively, will he ever hit? if you go with thorman in the platoon, you’re gonna have bad defense in LF. thorman & diaz would have to tear it up at the plate to justify that.
By Lew
December 31, 2006 11:15 PM | Link to this
Jim-I don’t think the situation is as dire as you do. The bullpen is better and Soriano is fine. All the reports of him losing his stuff was based on about 5 IP in Winter ball. He says now he is all the way back.
By gotigers72
December 31, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this
I believe Kelly Johnson has the potential to be an above average major league hitter. I hope he can play well enough defensively to play above average second base. [Although I will miss Marcus’ diving stops and fearlessness at 2nd]. I do not think Kelly has the tools to be a leadoff hitter. We need someone there that can steal 20+ bases.
As you pointed out DOB, he needs to be more aggressive at the plate. I remember thinking that he took too many good pitches and swung at too many bad pitches in his tenure in the big leagues. Somebody for TP to work with this spring. He seems to be someone who will listen to coaching.
By MEB
January 1, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this
Maybe this will be the last post of 2006 for what has been a difficult year for us Braves fans. To all Braves fans everywhere may 2007 be filled with good health and happiness. GO BRAVES!!!
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this
HAPPY NEW YEAR’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To all of my fellow Braves fans and even you Mets fans I hope your 2007 is better than your 2006. Braves fans, lets hope 2007 brings HEALTH AND PROSPERITY to the Braves and our rightful place atop of the NL East!!!!!
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this
Unless someone is obtained I think Johnson and Aybar are the best options at the leadoff position. Both guys are patient and take walks which results in high OBP.
I wonder if Gregor Blanco plays his tail off in spring training would it be enough for the Braves to give him the everyday job in LF. This guy had .402 OBP at Richmond and is doing the same thing in winter ball. He has speed, which will allow him to steal bases. If he has a similar spring, it seems to me the Braves would have a very difficult decision on their hands.
By Oregon_Braves
January 1, 2007 12:22 AM | Link to this
I know we give Dayn Perry from the FoxSports website a lot of grief on here (and deservedly so), but I honestly can’t believe the suck-up job he has just posted on the MLB homepage over there. It’s not even January and he’s sending Omar an excruciatingly sickening valentine. According to Mr. Perry, they will be naming an entire wing in Cooperstown after Minaya very soon. Check it out, if you have a strong stomach. It must be love. You have been warned.
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 12:28 AM | Link to this
Okay, anyone who had doubt of Dayn Perry’s bias for the Mets need to read his most recent article on Foxsports.com. He says that this winter’s moves only solidifies his status as an effective GM. He points to signing Glavine and Jose Valentin. He also notes Moises Alou. He says despite the rotation issues the Mets are the prohibiitive favorites. He does say however that winning a World Series will requie an upgrade of the rotation. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this assclown high? Yes, the Mets are still very good. I will even agree they should be tagged as the favorites. But saying they are prohibitive favorites and basically implying the NL East won’t be that difficult for them to win. That is a slap in the face to the Braves, Phillies, and Marlins. That is a freaking joke! Does this jerk really think that rotation is better than Atlanta’s, Philly’s, or Florida’s? The Phillies and Braves scored more runs than the might Mets offense did last year. The Braves and Mets made upgrades to their pitching while the Mets pitching was downgraded significantly. I just don’t get it.
Anyone who had any doubt where Dayn Perry’s favortism lies should have no doubt after reading his article. It is utterly inane. I hope the Braves, Phillies, and Marlins read that bs and it inspires them to greatness and the Mets finish fourth. I wonder what Mr. Perry would say if that happened?
By Jim
January 1, 2007 01:13 AM | Link to this
KC
Let me preface this note by saying we’re both lifelong Braves fans. I do not live in Fantasyland. The simple facts still make me believe John Schuerholz’ ancestors rented rooms to Gringos at the Alamo. Marcus Giles was “Mr. Mediocre” (we certainly agree on that). The two bums Schuerholz is replacing Giles with as the starting 2B/leadoff hitter are far times WORSE than Giles ever was. How can we be improved with NO basestealing threat, let alone guys who are challenged to hit their own weight????!!!! Everything done in this “pig-in-a-poke” offseason by Grinch Schuerholz is IF-DOG-RABBIT or Las Vegas roll-the-dice. Journeyman Willie Harris and Kelly Johnson are NOT Chone Figgins or Brian Roberts, not even close. Rafael Soriano is a risk that he may never be the same dominant set-up guy after a Vladimir Guerrero rocket crash landed on his skull (if you don’t believe me just ask several MLB Scouts). Although you and I both want Mike Hampton to rebound to a 20-win season, once again you have to roll-the-dice on what you get from Hampton. You say I’m wrong, no KC my friend, I’m not the enemy here, GRINCH Schuerholz is!!!!!! No significant trades or signings this offseason. Now I’m convinced there will NOT be any moves thanks to Time-Warner. KC, I respect your 2007 optimism; however, we start right away knowing this is Andruw’s last year here (THANKS Time Warner). Let’s not get on the how good Ryan Langerhans is going to be bandwagon PLEASE!!!! A .240 BA and 6 HRs is NOTHING to get excited about my friend. Please KC, the enemy here is Grinch John, he’s WRONG. This is NOT Fantasyland as we all would like. This is the REALITY of the Grinch Schuerholz and Time Warner world we now live in. Thanks Time Warner. KC, Time Warner has CHOSEN NOT to compete. Take off those rose-colored glasses and see the true colors. Respectively, you and I cheer for the same team, we just see things differently. I TRULY hope you are correct, that’s what we both want. But Suddam Schuerholz and Time Warner have taken away ALL of my hope this ice-cold offseason. We are in TROUBLE if the most exciting articles this hot stove season are written about how Kelly Johnson will lead the Braves to the promised land. PLEASE, Kelly Johnson is a Ryan Langerhans clone. I want to ask the question once more, WHO is going to steal more than 5 bases in 2007 for the Braves!!!????)(&$&#$lou. A lifelong Braves fan in closing says…. *PLEASE MR. BLANK, just like Moses, LEAD us out of this no hope and despair. THANKS AGAIN Time Warner. I’m also convinced Grinch Schuerholz’ relatives *sold Zippo lighters to the crew of the Hindenburg.
By Lew
January 1, 2007 01:47 AM | Link to this
Dude-You really need to get a grip. It’s not a good thing to start the New Year off with a stroke.
By berigan
January 1, 2007 02:11 AM | Link to this
Robert(And Oregon Braves) well, checked him out and yep, Dayn Perry’s nuts! Robert, as you mentioned, right now, I’d take the Braves, Phils(A very underrated staff if you look at it) and Marlins starters over the Mets. Not saying the Mets can’t swing a trade and at least have a decent rotation and still win the division, but like most teams, an injury or 2 away from .500 ball.
Oh, I did look into Perry, and thought this article was verrrrry interesting….. http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2005/05/brave_heart.php
By Chris Parsons
January 1, 2007 03:24 AM | Link to this
read your blog all the time, great work. Just wanted to point out that Melvin Mora was probably referring to JD Drew who last year hit 20 HR and had 100 RBI and then agreed to (but hasn’t signed) a $70 million contract. Sadly, the players are delusional, the GM’s seem to be.
By Ron
January 1, 2007 03:25 AM | Link to this
Berigan, Good job getting that article. Wow That article was very interesting. Dont know how anybody can hate a team with passion, and I guess Mature, Dont know if he matured or not, Can consider that same team which he hated consider them his second favorite team. OK anyways. The Mets must be his second favorite team now, and Braves third, I guess. No way I would ever consider the Mets or Yankees my second favorite team, HATE THEM BOTH.
By Ron
January 1, 2007 03:29 AM | Link to this
Never ever gonna Like the Yankees after that 96 World Series. I was 10 years old, and after that Jim bleepin Leyritz hit that 3 run homer to tie that game, I started crying, Knew it was over, and I guarantee all yall knew it was over to once he hit that homer. No way the Yankees would EVER be my second favorite team, EVER.
By Najeh Davenpoop
January 1, 2007 07:22 AM | Link to this
Reitsma sucked and I’m glad the Braves didn’t try to keep him, but whoever decided to drive by him and yell at him in front of his daughter only makes Atlanta sports fans look even worse, if that was possible.
I like OBP, but it would be nice if Kelly Johnson could also string together some hits this time around, unlike two years ago.
By br618
January 1, 2007 07:27 AM | Link to this
Jim it doesn’t matter that aybar and johnson aren’t basestealing threats, bobby cox doesn’t like to steal or bunt which is why the braves aren’t real successful in the playoffs
By JCB
January 1, 2007 08:44 AM | Link to this
Jim You need to chill dude. What is your distaste for Jon S??? Has he wronged you and your family in some form or another? I mean, the man has a budget to work with, its not his fault he didnt feel he could pay someone like Pierre the ridiculous contract he got. He is not going to trade the whole farm system for a few players who might help now, he is being wise, something you are not. So unless you have some real reason as to why you are acting like a horses rear end, chill.
By Mark
January 1, 2007 08:45 AM | Link to this
Whats really scary is that as much as I like Chipper( he has been a great player)If he goes down our lineup is going to be lacking pop and really this is a very suspect starting pitching group as well.Out Team seems to be on a downward trend.
Yes true we have young player in Jeff and Brian that have power, although Jeff has got to add some walks to his game.
Really our infield defense looks alittle shaky as well.
By JC FROM UT
January 1, 2007 09:23 AM | Link to this
Happy New Year to all!! Regardless if the LaRoch/Gonzales trade is made or not we still need another lefty in the bullpen. As of now there is Makay McBride, who has done agreat job, but is not enough on his own. There aren’t any free agents out there except the likes of Kent Merker Scott Schoenweiss or Ron Vallone. This being said I think the LaRoche/Gonzales deal is even that much more important to make. Hopefully this was a “shutdown week” and JS will call Pitt this week and make the deal.
By Ripme
January 1, 2007 09:39 AM | Link to this
Thank you LORD! Thank you !
By ncscoots
January 1, 2007 09:41 AM | Link to this
Mark, if one of the big bats goes down with an injury, Braves have enough offensive depth in the everyday lineup to keep scoring runs (another reason I favor keeping LaRoche). There’s 20-plus-HR power 2 thru 7 as now constituted, and if Thorman is getting regular AB, I certainly think he’s capable of 15-20 HR. That’s a lot of crush, which is why I’m not all that concerned about a prototypical leadoff hitter. Braves can score in bunches from many spots in the lineup, unlike most teams which sport power only at the traditional 3-4-5 spots.
Many of our bloggers who support the speedy-base-stealer-leadoff premise always point to the fact that the Braves last year would have big games offensively, and other games in which they had trouble scoring. Duh. That profile fits only every other team in MLB, also, since it’s the NATURE OF THE GAME! Over 162, every team is going to have peaks and valleys. The fact that the Braves lineup is CAPABLE of putting up 8 runs any time they hit the field is the point. A leadoff hitter who gives up 30% of his hits with caught-stealing isn’t going to improve the offensive efficiency of this lineup. Now, if we could sign Ichiro, that’s a different story, LOL!
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
I think a balanced lineup needs a speedy leadoff hitter or a speedy guy in the lineup that can get on base and steal bases. I realize that some will continue to say that speed doesn’t matter. In my opinion that is utterly ridiculous to say. I don’t care what the sport is. Speed is important. Do you guys realize that Figgins and Jose Reyes individually stole as many or more bases than the Braves did as a team? The Braves stole 52 bases all season. Now, I can’t believe that inelligent baseball people really don’t think that is a problem. Speed does so much for the game. It turns a potential putout into an infield single or error. It turns singles into doubles and doubles into triples. Speedy guys get on base and steal second avoiding double plays and taking pressure off of the batter hitting behind them. I know some will say that while Figgins stole 52 bases he was caught 16 times. And? He still stole 52 bases. How can anyone look at the likes of Reyes, Eckstein, Damon, and Hanley Ramierez and tell me that a speedy leadoff guy doesn’t matter.
I think Kelly Johnson or Wily Aybar will do at the leadoff position because they have high OBP and can take walks; however, their lack of speed is a problem no matter which way you slice it. Would I trade LaRoche for Figgins? Probably not unless Erick Aybar and maybe a pitcher were involved. Would I consider giving Gregor Blanco the nod in LF if he can maintain his high OBP and show some knack for stealing bases in spring training? You bet your sweet a** I would. This offense has plenty of power. Chipper almost hit 30HR in only 2/3 of a season. LaRoche hit 32 and would’ve probably hit 40 if he didn’t have to platoon with Jordan the first 1/3 of the season. McCann hit over 20. Frenchy hit 29 and probably would have reached 30 if he had been given a day off here and there. BUT, the one thing the offense didn’t have was speed or guys who could steal bases.
By dadgum
January 1, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Scattershooting while wondering what ever happened to the band Nantucket….
Happy New Year to everyone here and peace, health, happiness, & prosperity in this coming year.
With all the rain we are getting I wonder if The Diamond is holding up? Negotiations are on again with Mike Plant of teh Braves and Richmond’s mayor Doug Wilder on a new proposal at teh existing site. That on again off again romance is making me tired not to mention just about everyone else in Central Virginia. Get ‘er done already!!!
Oh yeah…back to Nantucket. The band hailed from Eastern NC around Jacksonville during the 70’s / 80’s. They played mostly in the Southeast and recorded 2 albums I know of maybe more. They had a loyal following and a good rock sound at the time. Their lyricist and lead guitar player was Tommy Redd. Can’t seem to find any info on them these days. Any info out there?
Also just wondering what this blog would be like if we could actually eliminate all the soap opera posts and rebuttal posts by,well, you know who they are and stick just to valued opinions on the normal topics within teh blogosphere. Not saying we can’t disagree just keep it on topic instead of dragging mud and people’s mothers into it etc. Go Braves!!!
By MBATL
January 1, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
I’d love to get Gonzalez and a young SP, but sounds like the Pirates aren’t going to give up 2 quality arms for Laroche.
How about Laroche and Langerhans for Gonzalez and Duffy? Duffy is no superstar, but a good OF who can steal bases. Langerhans would be expendable, and the Pirates would have some backup for CF.
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
I tell you what a lot of Pirate fans hate Littlefield. They think he is an idiot. Some are wondering why he doesn’t send Duffy along with Gonzales and pull the trigger. I don’t necessarily want Duffy but I too have to wonder. One place they have some depth is in the outfield. It just goes to show why the Pirates remain the NL’s bottomfeeders. The only reason they finished above the Cubs last season was because the Cubs played almost the entire season without Derek Lee.
By RC
January 1, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
DB,
Thanks, the Braves Blog is quickly becoming my favorite at AJC due to your hard work and perspective. I agree on Reitsma…too bad from the good guy part. I agree with the earlier blogger, he shoulda been kept at setup…. AND Giles shoulda been kept at the number 2 spot regardless. I know the money crunch has hurt the Braves but when you gotta a good thing going why change it? Guess Bobby had to try. Giles to me would always be a welcome 2nd baseman, number 2 hitter at the Ted. Too bad he’s gone.
RC
By JC FROM UT
January 1, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
MBATL: I’m with you about Gonzales/LaRoch but I wouldn’t include Langerhans. As someone posted on the previous blog, Langerhans may well be the best alternative to AJ next season, defensively speaking. Personally I think Langerhans,with a little more patience could be a decent leadoff guy. He may not be the fastest but he seems like a smart baserunner with a lot of hustle. I’m sure Thorman will not put up a 30 HR season but he could hit 15-20. I just really wish JS would do the deal with Pitt.
By MBATL
January 1, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
BTW, RBIB, I’ve seen a couple of statistical analyses that place Figgins as the best baserunner in baseball (not base stealer, but baserunner, taking into account extra bases taken, going from 1st to 3rd on singles, scoring from 1st on doubles, not getting thrown out on the basepaths - that kind of thing.)
Given that, and his versatility, I’d consider a package for him if we could pry some kind of pitching away in the deal.
By AdirondackDave
January 1, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
I agree, Littlefield doesn’t seem to be the sharpest tack in the box. With his options dwindling, he wants and needs LaRoche big-time but can’t bring himself to include Duffy, a minor piece in the overall picture for both clubs. Seems a little odd to me.
Actually, I’m not certain that the Pirates have anybody, including Duffy, who can hold down a Braves outfield slot for a full season and successfully lead off. He doesn’t look like a contenders lead-off guy to me. Perhaps it will occur to Littlefield to propose one or two secondary minor league prospects instead of Duffy and negotiate up from there.
My hunch is that this deal will get done, sooner or later, given JS’s stated pitching priority. After being widely criticized last year for letting obvious bullpen problems ruin the season for the Braves, he’s surely can’t let that happen again.
By KC
January 1, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
JIM: Dude, your post looks like an electronic version of a demented ransom note. That’s a manifesto if I ever saw one. Jim, again man… relax and try to get your heart rate down.
The biggest problems last year were injuries and the bullpen. Do you realize that the Braves had 3 starters on the DL the entire season?! There were a couple points during the season in which they had 4 starters out all at once. The Braves largely solved that issue by getting rid of their 2 most injury prone starters (Thompson and Ramirez).
The other big issue, the bullpen, has also been fixed. First of all, did you notice in my earlier post… that whole thing about the 5 returning members of the bullpen finishing the season with a combined 2.31 September ERA? From the looks of it, the bullpen was already a helluva lot better by the end of the season than it was at the all-star break. Now you add one of the premiere setup men in baseball, and get a good young arm back in Blaine Boyer. I can’t even comprehend, let along relate, to any pessimism regarding this bullpen.
As for Hampton being a “roll of the dice”, I don’t think anyone’s predicting a 20 win season. But the FACT of the matter is that he’ll have had the FULL 18 month recovery period (from Tommy John surgery) where as most pitchers return after only 12 months, and struggle their first several months back as a result. There is now a 90% success rate for pitchers returning from TJ surgery. Dr. James Andrews, one of the leading doctors to who performs that procedure, defines success as “being 100% at the 18 month (post-surgery) mark”. Jim, this means that there is only a 10% chance of Hampton suffering any ill-effects whatsoever next season. A “roll of the dice” with 90% odds… I’ll take that wager. Again, no one’s predicting 20 wins, but I’ll bet real money that he has a solid overall season, and a great 2nd half (once he’s shaken off the rust).
Alos, History (and a few other factors) suggest that we can look for a better season out of Hudson as well. I can’t predict the future or tell you that Hampton and Hudson will both be good next season, but in both cases… the odds are in the Braves’ favor.
Your question: “I want to ask the question once more, WHO is going to steal more than 5 bases in 2007 for the Braves!!!????”
My answer: WHO GIVES a F%&!!!!! This team was the best offensive team in the NL last year *without a leadoff man or a base stealer! The Braves know how to lay down an bunt and drive a runner in. They also know how to knock the ball into next year, as they were top HR-hitting team last year as well. One way or another… they’ll score runs. Why is it so hard for some people to accept that the Braves were, and remain, an excellent offensive ballclub???
BOTTOM LINE: The Braves two biggest problems, health and the bullpen, have both been addressed. The rotation will likely be strengthened by Hampton. Again, if Wickman and Soriano had been in the bullpen on opening day of last season, the Braves would absolutely, positively be coming off a 90-plus win season right now. So man, there is no conceivable way (short of a catastrophic, unprecedented rash of injuries) that the Braves’ 07’ season will be a “clone of 2006”. It just ain’t gonna happen. And if you really believe that, I’m open to a friendly wager.
By KC
January 1, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
MBATL:
I wouldn’t have a problem with the Braves throwing something into that trade to get both Gonzalez and Duffy in return.
If the Braves believe that Duffy can get on base enough to bat leadoff, then it would be worth parting with LaRoche and Langerhanz or even Matt diaz to get both Gonzalez and Duffy.
By Jim
January 1, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
JCB (or John Schuerholz’ nephew)
Reading your reply blog reminded me of a guy I know that said “I had a roomate, but my mom moved out.” I’m happy for you and KC living in Fantasyland, a place of world peace, sunshine, no sickness, and equal opportunity for all. You obviously do not care the current plight of the Braves - Thanks Time Warner. If finishing below .500 and eating Turner Field ‘dogs makes you happy, then God bless you and yours. What do I have against Grinch Schuerholz you ask??? Regardless of the fact that Schuerholz’ relatives negotiated a peaceful settlement and the our city of Atlanta… he’s regressed into the pig-in-a-poke baseball mentally. We both know Time Warner has put the financial constraints on Johnny by choosing not to compete; however, John doesn’t have to act like Brad Childress’ brother (smug/arrogant/non-information). JCB - go on believing the Braves are a playoff team next season. I’m sure your mother can also read you some fairy tales and take you to Fantasyland. I should have known from your writing you were related to John Schuerholz (I already mentioned that earlier). Maybe your John Schuerholz Jr., and you’re going to be inserted into that All-Star 2B mix this spring with journeyman Willie Harris and phenom Kelly Johnson. It would make sense with John Schuerholz’ pig-in-a-poke management. NO Brian Roberts or Chone Figgins…. no we get Schuerholz JR., journeyman Harris, and “Langerhans” clone Johnson. But JCB, you go on living in Fantasyland where they’ve found a cure for cancer and the Braves are going to win the World Series. Thanks Time Warner. Before you call someone a horse’s whatever, I know you have a another popular saying … “I never met a mirror I didn’t fall in love with.” JCB, there is a center called ABC (Ability Bldg. Ctr)… I think that’s where you live buddy…
By BravesFaninRockies
January 1, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
Happy New Year to all in Braves land!
DOB, thanks for the update, as always. It’s good to see Hub’s working with KJ on his moves and footwork at 2B. I hope he can make the transition back to the IF.
The last Braves game I saw live was in Dodger Stadium, 1st half of ‘95. Before Frenchy and Mac were called up. Raul Mondesi was still on the team, for cryin’ out loud. This was just before KJ went on his hot streak. I recall him looking like Roy Hobbs at the plate and Chris Duncan in the field. Langy went in as a defensive replacement and made one of those diving, game-saving catches (only because Kolb had stunk it up and let a lead get away) that makes me hope we can find some way to keep the guy on the roster.
2007 looks full of promise. Health and happiness to all!
By Robert(Justice Is The Best)
January 1, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
As far as the Pirate deal goes, if I were JS I would even consider asking for Matt Capps along with Gonzales. It may not be something the Pirates would do but the guy’s numbers are outstanding. With the additon of Capps the Braves could offer Paronto or Yates.
I still think a deal with the O’s or Angles could work as well. Huff doesn’t really play 1B that well and still didn’t solve the O’s need of wanting a left handed power hitting first baseman. As for the Angels, Hillenbrand is nice but his defense at 1st is horrendous. That is why the Giants didn’t attempt to keep him and the Yankees clearly stated that is why they had no interest in him. Honestly, I don’t understand the Angles reasoning in getting him because Dallas McPherson played very well at 3B last season. The only thought I have is that Hillenbrand is there to be the DH because the Angels know Rivera is going to be out for a length of time. I still think they would want LaRoche. I said earlier I didn’t know if I would make a trade for Figgins with LaRoche. But, if Erick Aybar or Casey Kotchman was included in the deal, I think I would have to do it just because of what Figgins can bring to the lineup. And as I have stated before Figgins can split time between 2B, 3B, and LF and by him playing some 2B it will allow Kelly Johnson to ease into the position. I know many disagree with me on this, but I really think the Braves need some speed in the lineup. It would help the power guys tremendously.
By BravesFaninRockies
January 1, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Oops, I meant ‘05. My Bad.
And Jim, take a chill pill, please.