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Respect from the new NL East champs

Yesterday’s blog has become bogged down from the number of responses, not to mention poluted by a “couple” of sad little folks who don’t offer much in the way of baseball insight or discourse on any other enjoyable pursuit.

I can’t do much about the latter, other than tell the vast majority of you pleasant, intelligent folks to try and grin and bear it and stay with us. I don’t have time to ask that their IP addresses be blocked or whatever, and I’m a strong advocate of freedom of speech anyway.

But anyone who’d direct a profane post at the Carolina Lady … well, you’ve reached a new bottom floor in the house of humanity. Rather pitiful, really.

Anyway, with the new NL East champion Mets in town, and ESPN debuting its 30-minute show today about the 5 reasons that Bobby Cox can’t be blamed for the Braves winning only one World Series (I had nothing to do with the show, so don’t start on me either way), I thought I’d empty my notebook here of quotes I got from Mets players in recent weeks and today about the Braves and the run the Mets finally ended. Make of them what you may:

BILLY WAGNER:

“It’s unbelievable, to have the run that they’ve had for so long, to constantly be chased and to win. For [many of the] 14 years they were written off…

“Granted, the East over the last 4-5 years has not been strong. But the Braves were the one team that’s been consistent.

“They established that tradition, and that’s what every organization wants to achieve.

“Every year it was Atlanta. When I was in Philly, and before that when I was in Houston, when we knew we were going to play Atlanta in the playoffs. Every year we were gearing up to play Atlanta.”

“For me and some of the guys in here [Mets clubhouse] who’ve been tortured by the Braves, nothing would be better than to beat the Braves every time we play them.”…

WAGNER on COX: “Without a doubt, if Bobby Cox isn’t there, it’s hard to imagine they’d be where they are. His players come to the ballpark and play with a lot of intensity. They’re young now, but you still don’t want to play them.

“They play hard for nine innings. It’s like playing the Yankees _ you may win, but you’re worn out when it’s over. They play nine innings.”

TOM GLAVINE:

“It’s not going to be like beating any other team. It’ll come with a different sense of accomplishment because of what the Braves have done. Being able to win the division is one thing; doing it in a year when you can unseat the Braves, it adds a little bit more meaning.”

“It’s been a good year for us [Mets]. We put together a great team. Everyone’s played to the expectations that we had, and that’s the reason why we’re here.”

JULIO FRANCO:

“Of course. Who wouldn’t want to be part of something that magical? That’s a lot of division titles.”

“That’s a great accomplishment _ but it’s [over], unless you continue winning. Don’t get me wrong _ anybody would want to be part of it, and I was proud to be part of it.”

“I’m sure that [Braves] front office is going to work to fill the holes this winter.”

“This [Mets] team is pretty good. I guarantee you those guys in the [Mets] front office aren’t going to sit there and [rest on laurels].”

GM OMAR MINAYA:

“What they’ve done is more than impressive. If they were to give a Pulitzer Prize in baseball, Bobby Cox and John Schuerholz and that whole organization deserve the Pulitzer Prize.

“I’m a big admirer. I have a lot of respect for their front office and what they’ve done, as a baseball person…

“Whatever happens this year, they’re still a model. All baseball people see them as a model for success. There’s no doubt.

“I can tell you there’s not a baseball person, a baseball team, that does not view them as THE model for success. One year is not going to change that.

“There’s not enough positive words I can say about that gang, especially their manager, Bobby Cox, their players, John Schuerholz … if there were a Pulitzer Prise awarded in baseball, they would win in a landslide.”

MICHAEL TUCKER:

“You talk about 14 straight appearances in the playoffs, that in itself is tough to do. And you’re talking about winning your division every year…

“First, you have to have a good team for an extended period of time, and you have to be able to deal with injuries, health…. It’s mainly about consistency, about getting the job done. I don’t think ny team has gone to the playoffs more, even the Yankees, not that many times in a row.

“Fourteen division titles _ that’s incredible. They’ve never gone in as a wild card. They’re winning division titles every year.”

On COX’s impact: “It means a lot. Bobby keeps a consistent atmosphere. You go through a stretch where it doesn’t go too well, he never gets caught up in it. Go through a good stretch where you’re winning, it’s pretty much just, ‘Keep it going, keep an even keel, a straight line, don’t have big peaks and valleys.’”

And as an added bonus, here’s some stuff from Cubs first baseman DERREK LEE on the Braves’ run:

“It’s almost unbelievable. I don’t know if you’ll ever see that again. Just to be able to play that well that long, to be that consistent… It says a lot about their management, to put a team out there like that every year. And Bobby Cox, obviously, does an incredible job. They’ve had some good fortune, too, avoiding injuries, that kind of thing. But it’s just an incredible accomplishment.”

“[If they] go get another pitcher, and with an improved bullpen _ their lineup is fine _ they’ll be right back on top.”

OK, that’s it. Just wanted to share that stuff with you. The crowd is predictably small tonight. Hard to believe it’s a Braves-Mets series in late September, and there’s just an air of emptiness in the place.

I think I’ll go take advantage of no line at Skip & Pete’s BBQ.

Talk to you later.

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By robdawg06

September 26, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Why do baseball managers and coaches wear uniforms ? Its not like they are going to play. The football coaches don’t wear pads and jerseys. The basketball coaches don’t wear tank tops and shorts. Can you tell me why baseball managers and coaches dress up in halloween costumes during the season ? Ever thought about it ?

By hk

September 26, 2006 07:27 PM | Link to this

Mathew, welcome back, glad to hear your voice!!!

… wonderful news about the little guy, I remember vividly our first (1959), a had barreled down from Harrisburg Pa to Alexandria Va, arrived about an hour late, first I knew was at the reception desk, gal pointed at an entry, saying “(my last name), baby boy” … pure joy, and it never ends … we (#1 son and I) have emailed back and forth 4-5 times today, short ones, sharing little stuff (which is really the big stuff) …

By RW

September 26, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Regarding Hudson,

Ok, I have been looking through his stats. I don’t know what JS and Bobby thought they saw. The guy always gives up alot of hits and a ton of dingers. He has averaged 1 hr every 11 innings pitched. He had 2 years of good era but that is it. Other then his w/l record. Show me how Hudson is a monster?

By David O'Brien

September 26, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

It’s one of the great mysteries of the universe, Dawg.

Geez, on that note….

By robdawg06

September 26, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

Here’s a message for Cox & JS : Sign a top starting pitcher and make it two if Mike Hampton is going to be a DL man again. Many of us fans said in April to get a proven closer. But after 3 months of blown saves with Reitsma & Ray, you did. “Too little too late.” And being a GM or manager is a hard job ? Please.

By robdawg06

September 26, 2006 07:32 PM | Link to this

DOB. Lol.

By robdawg06

September 26, 2006 07:33 PM | Link to this

Hudson is the classic 5 inning pitcher. He tires after 5 innings. Take him out after 5 innings. If you can’t do that then trade him or put him in the bullpen.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 07:36 PM | Link to this

dob, beware the barbecue served on the first day of a new homestand. just beware, that’s all. now, freedom of speech is valued by all but there is no justification to be so ugly to carolina lady. if sda does show up at the ballpark, dob, kick his sda for us. now, baseball … chipper is in the lineup tonight so we will not see him on television soaking his feet in ham cans. maybe tomorrow. now, this columnist business … what journalist could succeed dob? journalist curtright? journalist jimmy smith? little known facts about canned hams … a shelf-stable canned ham can be stored from 2-5 years when kept at room temperature. canned ham gel makes a good hair pomade favored by many major league ballplayers (vinny castilla).

By hk

September 26, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Journalist Bob,

.. you have my vote as the thickest skinned guy on the blog … I guess you and I figured out back in May that AJC was not going to deter our ‘impersonator’, or anyone else for that matter … it’s understandable, freedom of the press <—-> freedom of speech, and all that sort of thing … but as it happens, this guy (or guys) has turned out to be a teacher, in a sense … think we’ve all learned how to ‘get mad and get over it’ a bit better, and perhaps we’ve learned some things about ourselves that we didn’t know (and don’t like much) … and, I’ll have to admit, it’s been fun to try to figure out ‘let’s see, is this guy this other guy too ?’ in various combinations … dob has given us hints from time to time, he has visiblity into our ip addresses … my best guess is our blog has three antagonists max, probably two …

By stew

September 26, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

We were always one player short. Always lacking the extra bat. This year we were several players short.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 07:46 PM | Link to this

yes, wurlitzer winning journalist dob was wrong and attacked journalist stinky. journalist dob did not check sources, which is number one rule in journalism. Oh, right, this is just blog. no need to get facts straight. will journalist dob own up to false statement about journalist stinky idolizing SJA and the ip addresses bearing this out. probably not. dob was one of those guys who never got to drink milk at school. always had to fork it over to bigger, stronger school chums. now, dob is sticking it to the man. pitiful.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

that is not chipper jones! was chipper a last minute scratch? can we say last minute scratch on a polite blog? when did this blog become polite? used to be polite until you know who … let us hope it is only sore toes tonight and not a new malady. if the sore toes are not to be repaired and the problem is with both feet - how many games will chipper likely play in 2007? good thing aybar has some upside, huh? now, more canned hams … never freeze a canned ham.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

journalist jimmy smith has made ethnic slur against vinny castilla, essentially calling him a greaser with that ham juice pomade crack. jimmy and dob, thick as thieves and crooked to the core.

By hk

September 26, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

Lou,

… yeah, the first time I read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ I was mesmerized by those last 50 pages, really riveting … John Gault’s soliloquy about how things ought to be … bought into it for quite a while, alot of good ideas but also some serious flaws, finally figured that out…

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

stinky is no journalist. this journalist knows journalists and you, stinky, are no journalist. from the posts you are leaving it is evident that you are feeling the love tonight.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

this journalist is running out of people to talk to again, must resort to talking to stinky. journalist needs attention at all times. journalist wonders why nobody intrigued by canned ham statements. journalist must be losing his touch. journalist jimmy smith has no life so I must live thru the blog - Oh the humanity!

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

esteemed journalist jimmy, i submit that you are one of the three instigators that hk spoke of. that’s ok. good work. just don’t try to pass yourself off as blameless. oh, yeah, your membership in the Misanthropic Bloggerr’s Association of America was turned down. not original enough.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

has ron roberts left the blog? we must know of recent events in new orleans and must thank him for naming sda. hk, is wise. good to have hk back. now, baseball … smoltz has his pitches working tonight. stinky, you don’t need to comment on the canned hams - you’d never get the can opened anyway.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

jimmy, journalist stinky does have credentials. journalist took classes in high school and college in news and feature writing. journalist admits to having lost the feel for grammaticality, but jimmy’s style is easy to duplicate so journalist stinky will adapt to jimmy’s lowest common denominator… now baseball. reyes has 60+ stolen bases and 20 hr. awesome. batters behind reyes probably see lots of fast balls when reyes on base. wonder if shaun knows of stat for obp of batters hitting behind speed demons. hmmm.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

oh, well … everyone seems to have left the blog. go figure. have at it stinky.

By Knarly Barkley

September 26, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

I get all the major league baseball games on my satellite feed and I’m hear to tell you there isn’t a bigger cheerleading duo than the two clowns on Turner South.

Bob Rathbun actually called this a big game tonight because the Braves could “plant a seed in the minds of the Mets for 2007.”

Bob, I think the Mets are a little more concerned about 2006 and the play-offs than they are about next season.

Nothing says you have to be that much of a HOMER just because it’s the Braves network.

By hk

September 26, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

MGL,

… interesting data on steals, they are worth more than we think … when you look at all our one run losses, and if you turned 7 of those around today we’d be tied for the wild card lead …

By Lew

September 26, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this

HK-Yeah, I’ve always had problems about how things are compared to how I think they should be. Probably an irreducible conflict, though. Ayn Rand is an interesting author, if flawed philosophically. I’ve always wondered how much she influenced a lot of the actual movers and shakers.

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

Journalist Jimmy; perhaps green eggs and ham are in order. Just a thought from a Seussian standpoint.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

yes, sja, i am. and he says im the best. now baseball i like to watch t ball games. they are neat. batting t’s are not to be trifled with. Oh the humanity!

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

lew, the movers and shakers don’t read. they just move and shake.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 08:43 PM | Link to this

journalist jimmy smith, does dob owe stinky an apology and retraction?

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this

ah, grinch and lew. really you? hk, that really you? can’t tell anymore with this psycho using everybody’s names. grinch, green ham is more likely in the case of canned hams. jimmy smith thinks dob wants to be a columnist. want to help jimmy smith with the campaign? journalist send anne cox chumbers a nice canned ham earlier today with a card from dob. dob should be hearing from her soon. did anyone ever try the publix butter pecan in the tub? bob, not while in the tub - in the tub. oh, the humanity! bobby cox is in his nose tonight! put away the butter pecan!

By Lew

September 26, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

Journalist Stinky-Yes, at least the current office holding shaker.

By Bob, journalist

September 26, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

Well, I did it again … my best stuff always winds up at the end of the previous Blog … this time a little note to 1 for 14.

David O’B, nice words from a pretty fair country collection of folks who are in a better evaluation position than most!

Nice words from you too …

Somehow I don’t think that even the staunchest supporters of the first amendment, among the founders of the Constitution, intended that we endorse, approve or allow the spewing of bile in a public forum. However, it matters not what they intended … it’s incumbent upon us to decide what we find to be acceptable and unacceptable.

Wee Willie Aybar … imagine that!

Dadgum, geauxbraves2000, My Lady, Matthew and the silence of lambs now departed are much more eloquent than I … but, it’s a mistake, my friend, to allow the rowdy and unruly to undermine your fine efforts to do something special. My telling you that is much like the Grinch telling me to take the high ground … totally unnecessary; you won’t be abandoned, but it would be nice if medical attention and treatment could be received before radical surgery is required.

By Robert(Justice Is The Best)

September 26, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

I feel the Braves should be commended for their run. It was terrific. Yes, they should have won at least 2 more WS. And yes the recent 1st round departures in the postseason have been disappointing and infuriating but you have to give credit where credit is due. To win 14 straight division titles is truly amazing. To have 14 straight winning seasons is amazing. Ove the last 8 years or so it has been even more impressive.

The Braves haven’t always had the best talent (most times they didn’t) but they always found a way to win. To win with 18 rookies last year was impressive to say the least.

I know the naysayers here will have their soapbox to get on. I don’t care. The Braves have never let the odds bother them. And I truly believe with a few good moves in the offseason this team will be right back in it next season.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

bob, journalist, do not listen to jimmy smith about anything in the tub from publix. it is bound to have partially-hydrogenated particles that will not sit well with the tobacco carcinogens and high fructose corn syrup simple carbohydrates that you are addicted to. and bob, when you smoke, do you smoke your best, so as to create second-hand smoke to share with everyone?

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

as usual, this journalist is taking most of the heat from sda/stinky tonight. bloggers can probably tell the difference. jimmy smith’s posts are never ugly. bob rathbun just announced that chipper is suffering with sore toes tonight. perhaps we will see his feet in ham cans tonight after all. after seeing bobby digging in his nose just now this journalist would just as soon they not show anymore dugout action tonight.

By hk

September 26, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this

Lew,

… oh hugely .. back in the 70’s she and Greenspan (would you believe, before his Federal Reserve days) conducted a series of seminars around the US championing the Libertarian cause … I have an old libertian buddy, we get together once a year for pizza (Mello Mushroom) and argue endlesly … his language is always full of phrases directly from that last 50 pages (of course I delight in saying that and he always gets mad :))

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

DOB does owe journalist stinky an apology and a retraction. retractions are not to be trifled with. i’m sorry, i’m a donkey. Oh the humanity!

By Scalp 'em Braves

September 26, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

Bob “Biff Barf” Rathbun needs to go - I like Torborg - he’s much better than Paciorek was. But Rathbun needs to do the play by play (or roll by roll, as it were) on the pro bowling tour - let him try and make THAT exciting.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

lew, i’m surprised at you. don’t you know that our current major domo had a 2.3 gpa at yale? oh, the harmatia.

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

Journalist Jimmy, it is indeed me. I’m in and out of the kitchen (doing the italian cooking thing tonight), so forgive me if my responses are a bit late. I’ll be glad to help ol’ Dave out; but considering how little my efforts in the past to help MYSELF out as far as getting my own column (I have one now, but it’s my website so that’s hardly an achievement), I’m not sure of what to do. I’ll come up with something, though; I usually do. Journalist Bob, that was a clever cut down of 1 in 14; I meant to tell you earlier. Be back momentarily.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

what’s the matter, bob? can’t you compete? i’m using your words here. remember? probably not with that transfat and cigarette smoke haveing constricted your blood circulation and thus induced pre-alzheimer’s dementia. come on bob, compete.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

too much stinky tonight. g’night all.

By dadgum

September 26, 2006 09:10 PM | Link to this

Yes indeed, the Braves are the one of the great franchises in all of sports. It is impressive to hear peers speak the truth (as opposed to some on this blog that weigh 350 and want us to read all their cute words they just learned in school today).

Some on this blog remind me of an old saying ” it never fails that at the end of every day I am forced to add another name to the long long list of people that can just kiss my **ss”.

The Braves are definitely a strong pitcher away from being a serious playoff threat in ‘07. I think it will get done and Florida is the most likely suitor. Actually it will take more than that if Hampton isn’t effective and Hudson continues his swoon. Give James his due but I like him as our #4 starter. Bottom line, whomever we get the rest of the rotation needs to start pitching up to expectations in ‘07. Save Smoltz of course.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 09:14 PM | Link to this

esteemed journalist agrees with SJA. the select ‘regulars’ here talk down to people, dont allow other people opinions. journalist believes that is the result of all the harshness on the blog. jimmy thinks ‘regulars’ are like clique in high school and nobody else matters. Oh the humanity!

By dadgum

September 26, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

seems like the blog nazi censored my last post as I was referring to the 350 pound blogbile, that frequents here, with some asteriks and letters. Seen far worse that wasn’t censored. Also posted at the tail end of the last blog. I feel better now…somehow.

By Lew

September 26, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

Stinky-I’m surprised that his GPA is that high. Didn’t know Yale was into grade inflation.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

dadgum, it never fails that at the end of every day I am forced to add another name to the long long list of people that can just kiss my a$$. i like that.

but, dadgum, the braves need more than one more solid starting pitcher to compete in 2007. the gm is old. the manager is old. there is no momentum in this franchise. the sinking uss bravo doesn’t have the circa 1991 hunger to overcome the established sliding path.

and dob is a liar.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

lew, the skull and bones is not to be trifled with.

By Scalp 'em Braves

September 26, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

OK - trying to ignore my wife’s mindless chatter about whoever was on Oprah today, watch the game and catch up on the Dave’s blogs for the past week - and to skip over the senseless bickering and lame attempts at humor by some on here. Random thoughts while I nod my head pretending I give a rip about what she is saying.

Signing Beefy Bob for next year settles the most troubling gap we had in the pen this year. Kudos to JS for getting this done.

I can’t figure Tyler Yates out - the guy can throw 97, until it counts, then serves up a hambone down the middle to the other team’s best hitter. Maybe he’ll figure out his problem next spring, but we can’t afford all of the blown saves, and times he came into the game with a tie score, or we were down one run, and fell on the sword.

I would really like for the Braves to see what they could do to bring in Gonzalez from the Bucs - everytime I have seen him pitch, he is impressive, and might not cost an arm and leg to bring him south.

I still think we should keep Giles. I know he’s a free agent after next season, and we may not get anything for him - but the guy is the epitome of a gamer. We do need a real lead off hitter, though, and move Giles back to second in the order, Edgar hitting third, Andruw (or Chipper, whoever is hot) cleanup, McCann follwing, then Frenchy, & LaRoche. Pretty damned impressive lineup if you ask me. Our problem will likely not be offense - gotta shore up the pen, and make sure we’ve got four solid starters with one or two others to fill the fifth spot in the rotation.

By JJMB

September 26, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

SouthernJackass, are you doing Rosalyn Carter, Sigourny Weaver? Whoever is writing it, hilarious!

By Dog the Bounty Hunter

September 26, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

Haven’t checked in for a while..

My good buddy Lew is still here…how the heck you doing Lewie?

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

jjmb, good one.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this

dob still has not comfirmed his sources. contemptable.

By Robert(Justice Is The Best)

September 26, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

SJA, stop your lying. 325 pounds with 5.5%. Give me a break.

By Robert(Justice Is The Best)

September 26, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

SJA, stop your lying. 325 lbs with 5.5%. Give me a break.

By Bob, journalist

September 26, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

HK, “thick skinned” is an interesting descriptor … some have suggested that I’m just too stupid to know when I’m being insulted … and that’s not all bad!

When I was growing up, we took the Constitution and thought of the Journal as a yankee influenced rag … the Journal was an afternoon paper and we wanted our news in the morning when it was fresh!

10 Paul, regardless of what some folks think, tonight’s game has been fun!

By cricket

September 26, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

pleeeeep pleeeeep pleeeep

By Snowball's Chance

September 26, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

Hey Dob, I have been off actually working for a living, and checking back, the state of the blog is kind of sad. You have done your part but there is a lot of negative crap now. You created a nice scene for Baseball and music. It reminds me of rock festivals in the 60’s. At first there were no rules and no need because the sad cases that ruin any scene were off torturing small animals or whatever. Within a year and a half it got ugly. it takes pinheads a while to get up to speed, but they love to f* up blogs and I think they have injured this one. Go Braves in ‘07.

By MetsFan

September 26, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

What can I say? Nice butt-kicking, Atlanta….

By robdawg06

September 26, 2006 10:05 PM | Link to this

Nobody seems to know why managers and coaches dress up like players do, huh ? But lots of rambling about totally nothing here…

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 10:08 PM | Link to this

metsfan, the mets performance after clinching looks clinchingly familiar.

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

MetsFan, congradulations on being humble. Didn’t think youse guys had it in ya. For you, I will say good luck in the post season.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 26, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

journalist notices MetsFan paid a compliment on braves blog. journalist also notices ‘regulars’ bashing mets fans for posting anything. seems to this journalist that mets fans have class, while braves ‘clique’ do not. Oh the humanity!

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Snowball, remember Woodstock ‘99? The entire planet earth needs about a 65% human poulation reduction across the board.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

robdawg06, sometimes baseball players need a kick in the pants. if you’re wearing a suit and dress shoes, things can get messy.

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

jjs, there was no venom towards metsfan. just an observation that many honest braves fans might relate to. go in peace, metsfan. i grant you safe passage as long as you don’t defame this blog. we let dob do that.

By Bob, journalist

September 26, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

Stinky, it’s no longer a competition for me … sometimes I truly wish it were. I just hope that when your days of competing come to an end, you’ll be relatively pleased with how you’ve performed … you can take it to the bank that those who are totally satisfied will have set their sights too low … but if you honorably compete and give your best, you’ll be a winner in my book, regardless of wins and loses … those are my sincere feelings, not just those of my persona.

By Robert(Justice Is The Best)

September 26, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this

Good game all around by the Braves tonight. They didn’t just lay down and wait for the season to end. Not only did Smoltz bring his A game tonight but the offense did what it should do against a mediocre pitcher. They hammered him. Hopefully the remaining five games will be the same way and the team will show some pride and get to .500.

All Mets fans, I’m not ripping on you. Really? But, you have to admit you are worried about this pitching. The rotation is in trouble. For your sakes I hope Pedro has a miraculous healing, Glavine reclaims some of the magic he had in 1991 and 1995, and Trachsel actually pitches more like he was always touted to be and less like what he really is. Because if not, it will a Braves like first round exit. The Padres, Phillies, and Dodgers have strong pitching and at this point is better than yours.

By NLCHAMPS

September 26, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

Your braves had their bats working tonite and Smoltz was on. But in the end it was a meaningless win and a meaningless loss. I hope the Mets start caring about winning again…..soon.

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

Bob, you’re entirely too decent of a person to hang out on this blog. Glad you decided to, anyway. :-)

By Robert(Justice Is The Best)

September 26, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

SouthernJackAss, what’s deal, brother. Did Suzie May not give you any on prom night and from that day on you were known as the kid that didn’t “get any” on prom or what? Did you get bullied for your lunch money everyday and your “way” getting back is to be a bully on a blog? Were you that “one” kid in high school that couldn’t get into any clique and was all alone? What is exactly your problem, pal?

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this

bob, my view is that those who find it difficult to compete often revel in finding fault with those who can. or they pontificate for their own self satisfaction.

By JJMB

September 26, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

SouthernJackass, could you still do the Rosalyn, Sigourney stuff? Cracked me up!

By journalist stinky

September 26, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this

where was dob tonight? nite-nite.

By The Grinch

September 26, 2006 11:20 PM | Link to this

JJMB, if that really is you, I hope you’re not a detective if you really think that was SJA doing those personalities. Study the writing styles and content a little more closely.

By Georgetown Kid

September 26, 2006 11:24 PM | Link to this

The Mets could suffer from the same problem that plagued the Braves too many offseasons…..complacency and rust.

They wrapped up the Division so long ago, that it’s been a month since they played a game that had any consequence.

That makes it pretty hard to carry momentum into the playoffs, a problem that is magnified by a short series.

By Daybed Wagmoe

September 26, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

i haven’t read the blog and what everyone has said, but here’s my stab at the answer for the “why do coaches and managers wear uniforms?” question.

i’d guess that it’s a matter of tradition, going back to the days of the player-manager.

i also think the more important (tongue-in-cheek) question is, “why DON’T managers and coaches in other sports wear uniforms?”

By TennesseePaul

September 26, 2006 11:56 PM | Link to this

DOB: Nice. Very nice blog. Listining to Yeah Yeah Yeahs! reading the blog. Couldn’t be better… somthin like a phenomena baby, somethin like a phenomena

Sweet! After a long day on the road home, I come to find out Andruw did it!

WAY TO GO ANDRUW

And the Braves smacked the ball all over creation… Aybar, everyone. So pleased. So pleased indeed.

WAY TO GO BRAVES!!!!!

Bob: Thanks. I’d say more by why encourage it from the others you know?… Have you had a chance to view Office Space yet? Just watched that again last night. Still cracks me up. Funny stuff.

There is a lot to be happy about even though this season was horrid. Think of it this way guys… If we were Pirates fans or Cubs fans, we’d always, always be at least 3/4 of a team away from .500. Take DOB’s post for instance. It spells out the level of consistancy. We are used to this level of production. It’s been slacking in some ways lately, but even still it was enough. This year, I fully believe, was what was needed. It’s like a California Fire. It was here to clean out the dead wood. We are a few pieces away from a fabulous team and we still have the same front office in place. So we know we’re going to get those pieces and it’s all going to return to the norm. It’s my hope anyway and I don’t think it’s too far fetched.

GO BRAVES So happy about the results. So happy. And the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are only helping.

By David O'Brien

September 26, 2006 11:59 PM | Link to this

Amazing. Four-plus hours of infantile posting from NonSouthernDA/Poohpoohhead, and not one _ NOT ONE _ post about baseball. Wow. I wanted to sit back and see how long it’d take for him to wear himself out defending and attacking. Gotta hand it to the poor guy. He’s either got nothing better to do and/or he’s got a hell of a lot of venom built up from years of being pushed around and neglected.

The internet is like therapy for some people, and that’s good. You go, little man!

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

Oh, couple of pressbox folks were wondering: Do you actually even know anything about or have an interest in sports? Every play any of them? Just curious.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this

TennPaul, did you see the swing Aybar had on that homer? Like a batting practice poke, made it look so easy, like he guessed right or the guy was tipping pitches or something….

Andruw, first Brave since Hank (and first Atlanta Brave, period) to hit 40 in back-to-back seasons. The Andruw story I’m writing will be in Thursday’s paper…

As powerful as that Mets lineup is, that team is reminding me more and more of several Braves teams that dominated all season and then lost in the first round or NLCS. Mets better hope Phillies don’t win wild card and Astros overtake Cards, because Rocket, Oswalt and whoever will win in a short series against the Mets (Mets can’t play wild card winner from own division, as you all know _ someone explain the playoff system to NSDA/Poohface, since I don’t think they/he/whatever follow sports).

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this

dob, you lying sack of shiite. nice of you to show up at your own party. all for you, dude. you attributed something to me that was untrue. speak, big “man”. the ip addresses don’t lie and all that. come on, b***.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:09 AM | Link to this

TennPaul, I got sidetracked. Meant to say something about Office Space … “If you’d just move your things to Storage B, that’d be great…”

By TennesseePaul

September 27, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this

I’ve scored tickets. If, and only if, the Dodgers make it…. I’ll be at all levels of the postseason.

Even still, I hate the Dodgers and I’m hoping they don’t make it.

GO BRAVES

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:12 AM | Link to this

Daybed, six-word answer: “Rick Majerus in a basketball uniform.”

‘Nuff said.

Wait, six more words:

“Bill Parcells in a football uniform.”

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 12:15 AM | Link to this

a couple of bloggers wanted to know if you are a liar.

By Metropolitan Man

September 27, 2006 12:16 AM | Link to this

Yeah you guys took it to us tonight. I’m not worried about out pitching, its actually the bats that are asleep lately. Besides scoring 12 the other day,we have been awful at the plate. With the exception of tonight, the pitching has pretty much been the same as all year long. Take it easy on Pedro tomorrow, we need his confidence to be boosted. Dont get a hit until around maybe the sixth inning. Wake them bats up METS!

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

dob, thanks for mirroring my 10:08 post, you fraud. and i don’t know anything about sports.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 12:22 AM | Link to this

Dave, I toyed with the idea of mentioning Parcells in a football uni, but I think it would do him too much justice. Here’s one for ya (hope you haven’t eaten recently): Bill Parcells in a cheerleader uniform. He’s definitely got the rack!

By mariner

September 27, 2006 12:23 AM | Link to this

dob, bowman talks about chipper’s chronic foot problems in his mailbag and how bowman doesn’t expect chipper to play more than 130 games in a season again. that would be a real shame. i read a qoute from chipper earlier this year that he didn’t want to have surgery because he might miss too many games at the beginning of the season. the implication was that corrective surgery was possible. now that he’s not playing october baseball, any chance he uses the extra time off to have surgery? diminishing returns seem to be the future unless something drastic happens

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

Bill Simmons from ESPN wrote a couple of weeks ago about a tense moment in a Cowboys game where he said “You could practically see Parcells lactating through his Cowboys polo.” Blech!

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 12:25 AM | Link to this

journalist is worried about DOB. he worries much about old men in uniforms. is this a fetish with DOB? Oh the humanity!

By Georgetown Kid

September 27, 2006 12:35 AM | Link to this

Mr. O’Brien,

Now that they’ve been eliminated, I’m sure that the Braves’ players are doing a lot of reflecting on the season.

Do you get the impression that the players feel that the team was just a few lucky breaks, and another pitcher away from a successful season?

Or do you get the impression that the guys believe that they were simply outmatched this year?

Because if they believe the former, a few modifications and additions here and there will install confidence and optimism about next year.

But if they believe the latter (that the team simply didn’t have it this year), then it is hard to see them entering the spring with much optimism. Unless major changes are on the way.

Some of the things that Smoltz has said recently have made me worry that he doesn’t think that the Braves are anywhere close to Championship contention.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:36 AM | Link to this

yes, fetish. exactly. and fraud. precisely. now scoot back into your basement and let the adults converse like human beings.

anyway….

Grinch, that Simmons dude can be out there….

How ‘bout Bill’s shorts and sweatshirt practice attire? Quite the look…. But hey, the man still intimidates looking like that. That’s pretty damn impressive.

Mariner, no, I don’t see any way Chipper would have surgery for the bunions. I was talking to a Mets trainer today about it, in fact, a dude I’ve known since he was with the Marlins, and he agreed with Chipper’s assessment that bunion surgery can have so many complications, the patients can end up worse off after the surgery than before.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:41 AM | Link to this

oh, and yes, liar. liar liar, my pants are on fire (thought I’d converse in manner you’d understand, poopsy.

hey, did someone actually say “nite-nite” earlier? hmmm…all along, I assumed our little blog pest was a dude. but that makes me wonder….

By kurt loder

September 27, 2006 12:44 AM | Link to this

dob is my hero.

By Head Coach

September 27, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

Like I said before. Trade for Zach Duke and sign Dave Roberts , resign Thomson to an incentive laden contract and sit tight till spring training. O’yea , Luis Gonzalez would make for a great veteran backup outfielder if he would be willing to play for one or two million. Pedro tomorrow and Clemens on friday , the Braves are not going to make it to .500 but I’ll give them a big high five for trying.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

Mariner, just to clary, Chipper was talking about surgery on his foot last year, on the ligament thing, not the bunions. he’s said all along that surgery not an option for his bunions.

(Jimmy _ the real Jimmy, the cool one _ has gotta be liking all this feet talk, though i don’t blame him for laying low while sad little clowns are aping his identity in desperate cry for attention. Jimmy, we miss ya.)

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:49 AM | Link to this

Thanks, Kurt. I liked your work, too, before you went too far away from edgy stuff like the rest of the MTV folks.

Paste Magazine, by the way, is a much better mag for those into Americana, alt-rock, rootsy stuff from Steve Earle to Interpol and everything in-between. Some good dudes putting that mag out, and it’s based in Decatur and has spread nationwide in a short period of time. Good for them.

By mariner

September 27, 2006 12:49 AM | Link to this

dob, thanks. chipper’s been fun to watch this year when he can take the field. i know nothing about his conditioning regimen, but from your comments and others, it seems like there is room for improvement. hopefully, he gets after it this offseason. maybe follow steve finley’s program, seems to work great for him at 40.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this

Hoya Kid, Braves don’t think they were “overmatched” for lack of talent so much as they were because they don’t have a lot of depth and a few key injuries to the pitching staff, plus a few underperforming pitchers, and Chipper’s woes, conspired to undermine them. But even if everything had gone right, as indicated by Smoltz’s comments, they still would’ve had a hard time hanging with the Mets.

But the wild card? They really could’ve won that if they’d just had a closer all year and gotten better work from Hudson and anything out of a couple from the Sosa/Thomson/Horacio/Davies group. Even with Chipper’s injuries, they still had more than enough offense if they’d had decent pitching all year.

By mariner

September 27, 2006 12:54 AM | Link to this

head coach, if dave roberts is a free agent this year, he’d be a great signing.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:55 AM | Link to this

if Chipper’s playing at 40, I’ll be quite surprised. and so will he.

By TennesseePaul

September 27, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this

We’ve got a bit of a roach problem down here, so if you could go ahead and get a can of pesticide and crawl around…

By mariner

September 27, 2006 01:06 AM | Link to this

me too, just saying it’s a good workout program

By Bill Parcells

September 27, 2006 01:12 AM | Link to this

DOB

I will prance around for you if you like…

you dirty little boy…i luv ya…

By Head Coach

September 27, 2006 01:17 AM | Link to this

If Chipper’s not retired in two or three years I’ll be shocked. Mother nature and genetics have not been kind to him. Yep , Dave Roberts will be a free agent unless the Padres give him a new contract before the free agency period goes into effect. Darin Erstad is another potential option , great kid and still young at 32. He has had injury problems the last few years , but he can run and still has a great arm.

By Head Coach

September 27, 2006 01:24 AM | Link to this

This is a link for all you baseball freaks like me , enjoy. www.mlb4u.com/freeagency.php

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 01:24 AM | Link to this

10Paul, if you find a roach, let me know. I’m out of potatoes. :-) Yeah, Dave, I love the Parcells face on the sideline; he often looks like he’s sucking on an unripe persimmon. Can’t argue with the results, though. I keep waiting for him to break down and strangle Terell Owens with his bare hands. As for Y’all saying we’re overmatched, I think next year’s results will surprise some folks. The law of averages suggests the Braves used up about four seasons worth of bad luck this year; it won’t continue. One or two non-flashy but solid moves in the off-season and this team will win an extra 15-20 games with most of the current personnel (and a resurgent Hampton).

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 01:26 AM | Link to this

poor dob has been aping real journalists. now he reaches out for friends, but they’re always 5 minutes away. where is the man in black? he’d probably laugh at you, seeing you as that 45 year old groupy poser. you’re beneath kurt loder. here’s hoping you get that column, lewis grizzard with an mp3, sans the talent.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this

Grinch, agree with you on the law of averages and all the bad luck and injuries this year. Just got a gut feeling it’s gonna be a helluva race next year with the Mets and Braves.

TennPaul, you’re making me want to go throw my Office Space DVD on here at 1 a.m. There’s SO MANY great lines in that flick. Love when he goes in with the Hawaiian shirt on and all and gets promoted instead of fired….

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 01:32 AM | Link to this

journalist stinky has a point…DOB is a poser…oh the humanity!

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 01:41 AM | Link to this

That’s one helluva funny movie. “Why does it always say paper jam when there is no f-ing paper jam!?!” Love it. There’s a clip on wimp.com tonight of the “Justice league” cartoon set to “Office Space.” It’s classic.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 01:42 AM | Link to this

Poopy, once more: 42, soon to be 43…. facts, dude. Facts.

But a poseur, yes. And fraud. With a Parcell fetish.

Again, just curious: You have anything to say about baseball? Anything at all? Why don’t you come down to the game tomorrow, we can explain the rules of the sport to you? Or won’t Mommy let you out after supper?

Seriously, dude, you’ve got major issues. But keep ringing up the posts, rinky-dink. And we’ll excuse your lack of baseball knowledge, but don’t go drifting into music waters. You’re just too embarrassing there. And don’t ever, ever write The Man In Black unless you’re going to capitalize it.

Show some respect for something in your life. Besides boy bands.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 01:46 AM | Link to this

BTW, I’ve been sending love letters to Michelle Branch for weeks now and they haven’t yet produced the desired effect. All the chicks I know that can actually play guitar and write the songs they sing are lesbians. Sigh. My luck her and Alison Krauss will get back to me at the exact same time and get into it with each other and hate me. Of course, the alternative scenario…(insert funky 70’s bass line and a little “waka-chika waka-chika” guitar”) Hee-hee!

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 01:47 AM | Link to this

And I don’t have an mp3 player, but I’m missing something: If I did, would that somehow be an insult. (and just so you know, most folks refer use the term Ipod, like using Xerox in place of copy machine. you really are out of the loop, aren’t you?)

hopefully out of touch with music, clueless about sports, no dates, sitting at your computer for, what, six hours now? go get yourself a dog or something, man. or a job that requires more effort. better yet, human contact. seek it. go watch SportsCenter. rent a movie. GET … A … LIFE.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 01:48 AM | Link to this

dob, did you or did you not attribute a quote to me that i said that sja was my hero?

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 01:49 AM | Link to this

the red stapler.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 01:50 AM | Link to this

and dob, are you asking me to go to the game to explain the “game” to me?

By Lloyd of the A-T-L

September 27, 2006 01:57 AM | Link to this

The Mets, a baseball fan must admit, are well deserving of their place in baseball’s rich history. I appreciate the sportsmanship that is evident in the comments of this current team with regard to the accomplishments of our team.

The off season is always a time for discussion about what our team should have done then or should do now. Opinions are eagerly voiced around the water coolers and over the air waves about who should be signed, resigned, traded, demoted, fired, hired, etc. It is the right of the fan to have and voice such opinions and it is part of the lore of the game. The loud, out-spoken radio commentator, with the thick, non-regional accent, as well as “Dirt”, the clutch-hitting second basemen for the local dry-cleaner’s softball team, and the fan that wonders aloud why the manager wears a uniform, are entitled to express opinions such as this one from September of 1995, “Glavine doesn’t throw hard enough to win in the post season,” or this one from October, 2002, “Dusty would have won four or five World Series titles by now.” Less anxious to ignore the dozens of thrilling wins witnessed consistently over the years, on cold and rainy nights in April and thick, humid “dog days” in August, most of us have enjoyed the luxury of being able to trust the man in charge to make the right decision. John Schuerholz has shown an insight into modern day baseball with a flow of continuity from the rich traditional days of the game that future generations will never see. That said, we have surely not seen the end of winning with the end of this season. Bobby Cox has solidly followed “the book” in leading our team trough this stretch of division titles. His reward will be something personal that no doubt he will consider an accomplishment of his team, his Enshrinement into Cooperstown. Few who “manage” in the sports or business worlds are so bold as to show loyalty to the people who are under their charge. Few who “manage” people enjoy the rewards of so many wins without openly showing confidence in their players.
So, while we wait for next spring and another winning season, even as some fans speak loudly about what could and should be done, our team will be led by two of baseball’s greatest minds. Two leaders who will do their best to field another championship team. And more than likely, they will. Thank you to our “boys of summer,” John Schuerholz and Bobby Cox. Go Braves!

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 01:58 AM | Link to this

oh, dob, an ipod is mp3 player, but an mp3 player is not neccesarily an ipod. ipod is a trademarked brand.

By Bob, journalist

September 27, 2006 01:58 AM | Link to this

10 Paul, I understand … my nephew has both the tape and the DVD and we keep planning to watch it “next time” we get together … that is, if he will ever remember to bring it with him.

Stinky, I generally agree with the view you expressed regarding those unable to effectively compete, though it’s probably foolish to speculate … in my highschool graduating class, there were only three boys out of a class of 150 who really acted that way … “no way they could ever ‘mount to much” … all three have had highly successful careers and are truly gentlemen of the first order.

Grinch, flattery will get you everywhere!

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:04 AM | Link to this

thanks, bob.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 02:06 AM | Link to this

Stinky got you on the I-pod thing, DOB. Be careful and just stick to character assasination; it’s much easier. :-)

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:15 AM | Link to this

thank you for caring, grinch.

By Head Coach

September 27, 2006 02:16 AM | Link to this

DOB , did you notice that Thomson has been activated ? You think he will pitch or maybe start a game before the season ends ? Thanks.

By Head Coach

September 27, 2006 02:19 AM | Link to this

Stinky knows I-pods , he is 16 and knows evrything about I-pods , lol.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:20 AM | Link to this

dob, did they teach you about trademarks at kansas state.

By berigan

September 27, 2006 02:21 AM | Link to this

Gee, if we were all welfare cheats like the SouthernCandyAss, and Senorita Stinky (one person, but 2 checks come in the mail every month) we could make over 100 posts a day as well!

By Bob, journalist

September 27, 2006 02:22 AM | Link to this

Some folks make eliducation an art form but I think we can all agree that 12-0 is a good score when the good guys have 12!

Goodnight Gracie …

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:23 AM | Link to this

head coach, I am on the record as having respect for your call about the braves being sunk in may. go easy on me. i think dob may have invited me to show up at the ted so he can beat me up. or at least take my milk money.

i’m quaking as i write this.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:28 AM | Link to this

but bob, i was gonna make esspresso.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 02:31 AM | Link to this

berigan, you already used that one.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 02:34 AM | Link to this

Berigan, kind of like Richard Pryor in Superman III, no? With the two checks, I mean. I actually don’t think they’re the same person (at least with some of the posts; there’s an overlap), but I’m in the minority (and could, as always, be wrong). Bob, four-syllable words are useless on this blog.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 02:48 AM | Link to this

Univ. of Kansas, not Kansas State. Again, facts, junior. Facts.

I’m in your noggin’ ain’t I? Obsessed, you are. I love it. I go transcribe an interview for a story, watch CNN a while, come back, and you’re still here, running up the hits on the ‘ol blog.

I love it. In your freakin’ noggin’, dude. See, this is part of my job, being on here, etc. But you? You’re using your free time to fling mud at people, spew bile, fight back for no reason. Sad, scary, but somewhat entertaining for us, in a twisted way.

Anyway, you gonna sleep tonight, or just keep lashing out until the cows come home? No job or school tomorrow? Hey, whatever. it’s all good, man. We’re here for you.

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 02:51 AM | Link to this

I asked you to show up at the ballpark to explain the rules of baseball, absolutely no threats made whatsoever. Now, I know you’re used to that, being threatened and having your milk money taken away and all, but we’re not like that here. Relax.

No one’s going to hurt you here. we’ve been trying to explain that to you, that we’re not here to fight. But it must be ingrained in you, the defense mechanism, figuratively fallling into the fetal position and flailing in defense. I’m sorry for that.

In your noggin’. Obsession.

By berigan

September 27, 2006 03:00 AM | Link to this

Grinch, I think they are one and the same, because……

By berigan

September 27, 2006 03:01 AM | Link to this

…..I said so! See the amazing Berigan, make 2 posts at the same time!!! See, not it’s not so tough, which is a good thing for SouthernCandyAss/senorita Stinky who rode in the very short bus to school.

By berigan

September 27, 2006 03:11 AM | Link to this

back to baseball……how about those Astros???? Morning of Sept. 20 W L GB Cardinals 80 69 — Reds 74 77 7 Astros 72 78 8½

Morning of Sept. 27 W L GB Cardinals 80 76 — Astros 79 78 1½ Reds 78 79 2½

The Cards look to be the weakest “playoff” team right now.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 03:24 AM | Link to this

Berigan, I meant something different by overlap (like SJA is making SOME of the MPD posts; Stinky/NPD others)…no biggie, though. I’m getting a bit sleepy; check Y’all on the morrow. Or later today, I suppose. Night.

By berigan

September 27, 2006 04:44 AM | Link to this

Just saw on http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ that Carl Crawford can be had, but of course it will take a blue chip pitching prospect. I guess they are hoping for another Scott Kasmir to fall in their laps. Can’t blame ‘em for trying can you???

By berigan

September 27, 2006 06:30 AM | Link to this

TennesseePaul , glad to see other Yeah Yeah Yeas fans on this board. Lots of videos of them live on www.youtube.com

By dadgum

September 27, 2006 08:15 AM | Link to this

DOB….every morning when I get my cyber sports news I check in on the blog. Due to work it has been less frequent but I still see the vaguely human responses from some of the blog demons(you know who you are). They are there every time and add NOTHING to the blog. Any way you can just ignore their disgusting thoughts and perhaps say as of 12:00 on Sept. 27 this blog would like everyone to totally ignore the blog pukes that prowl here. If we can’t censor them maybe they will go away if nobody feeds them. Take away their energy, feed them Kryptonite, anything, anything, throw water on them. I’m melting, I’m melting!!!What a world, what a world!!!

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

is all good, dub. stinky can multitask.

By Lou

September 27, 2006 08:21 AM | Link to this

I was at Turner field last night for a PERFECT night of baseball. The fans were enthusiastic, the weather great and the Braves played great (I am a METS fan). The Braves with 14 division titles are now in the same league as the Yankees. It may be a record like Dimag’s 56 consecutive hit streak-never to be broken-it is that great! As a MET fan from their beginnings in ‘61-I TIP MY HAT TO THE BRAVES AND THEIR LOYAL FANS!

By NLCHAMPS

September 27, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

Lou, in the same league as the Yankees?? Easy now don’t get carried away.

By Braves 20

September 27, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Found Julio Franco’s remaks telling. “You can bet our front office will not sit on their laurels (or autograph books - my words - not Julio’s) in the off season.” We have addressed the closer’s role, we have addressed Smoltz, now we need to address the lead off spot (Dave Roberts?) and address what the Sporting News recently referred to as the pitcher formerly known as Tim Hudson. Perhaps reuniting him with his former pitching coach would help him and help us by picking up one of the Mets young talented arms.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Maybe this post will “allow” some folks to stop criticizing Bobby Cox. Not that we should take what other people in baseball say as infallable Truth, but considering that almost everyone has great things to say about Bobby Cox, his former players praise him and his record, we should also believe that Cox is a great manager.

True, he hasn’t won in the post-season and, as I’ve said, deserves some criticism for that. But the post-season is only a handful of games. From 1991-2005 Bobby Cox probably did as much with what he had as anyone in history. I know he had great players but he also got the most out of all of his players probably as much as anyone in baseball history.

My goal is not to defend or pump-up Cox, but when none of his collegues says a bad thing about him and he won consistently for so long, it’s hard not to defend him or pump him up when ignorant people criticize him.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Braves 20,

The Mets wouldn’t give up any young talent to the Braves, particularly pitchers. And the Braves probably wouldn’t give up Hudson, who hasn’t been as bad as his “traditional” numbers look, to the Mets. Division rivals rarely make trades like that.

By journalist stinky

September 27, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

SJA is my hero, all hail SJA!!

By Lou

September 27, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

To NL Champs: No I am not being carried away. As a lifelong baseball fan, folks should realize what 14 straight division titles really means! In this age of free agency, and the uncertainties of injuries and all that is thrown at a team over the course of a162 game season-I say again to WIN 14 CONSECUTIVE DIVISION TITLES! is a MONUMENTAL

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

…now we need to address the lead off spot (Dave Roberts?)

If the Braves don’t trade Andruw Jones or Marcus Giles, I’d rather they keep the lineup the same. The offense was fine this year. Maybe go after a solid second-tier starter or two that they can sign to a 2-year, relatively inexpensive deal.

By jose quervo, IV

September 27, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

and now a few words of reflection on this season from:

Braves Third baseman: “uhhhhhh…..well…uhhhh….we tried awfully hard…and uhhhhhhh…..

Braves Center Fielder:”bezball been berry berry good to me….need another brewski and burrito”

Braves RF: “let me pick my nose first”

Long time Braves Starting Pitcher: thoughts: this is a great life…I’m away from home 82 nights, focus on baseball for 6 months….after the season, I play golf every day (to keep my low handicap) and away from my family more…but I need to act like I’m a real family man…..I’m posin’ pretty good.

By Phat Bat Boy

September 27, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

So is Skip and Pete’s BBQ any good? Would you buy it if they sold it in a free-standing restaurant?

DOB, which young middle infielder is making an impression on the coaches and do any of them threaten Pete Orr’s return to the team? I’d imagine that his speed provides a needed asset that the other guys don’t bring to the table.

An again, McCann is DA MAN, but can we PLEASE get him off that ankle? He’s about to have the running speed of Eddie Perez, but dude is like 23 Y.O. and Perez is 67. Come on, Bobby, sit the young guy down, the season is over.

By Fastball

September 27, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

We can all agree that 14 division titles is a great accomplishment, but why are Atlantans so reticent to discuss the obvious postseason failures? Is everyone scared that it will detract from the division streak?

Interesting how Andruw’s bat gets hot once the team is out of contention. He is now stat-padding for the next contract. I hope JS trades him in the offseason. Good pitching beats inconsistent hitting every time.

By olcottr

September 27, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

McCann’ll have plenty of time to rest that ankle. Those things never heal completely, anyway. I’m rooting for the Mets in the post season. From history, I hate getting beat by a team that embarrasses itself in the playoffs.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

NLCHAMPS and Lew,

I agree that Yankees fans may be more lucky than Braves fans from 1991-2005 as a whole. The Yankees have won more titles and that probably makes up for the Braves’ edge in overall wins. But it’s defintely those two teams then everybody else from 1991-2005. Of the teams over .500 during that span the only other teams to win World Series are Arizona, Toronto and Boston. Toronto won two, but have done little else.

The Yankees and Braves have winning percentages over .579 and no one else is close; Boston’s next at .539.

By Anne Cox Chumbers

September 27, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

My, my, that was a nice canned ham - and that little box of soda crackers on the side was very thoughtful. I do enjoy a nice canned ham. Still, naming someone a columnist is important business - not to be trifled with. One columnist must go before another is added. The old journalist was just re-signed and has some new knees so he should last awhile longer. Who should go? Hmmm …

By Alan

September 27, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

No major moves are required to “fix” the Braves, now that the ace and the closer are in place. A true leadoff hitter with speed (Dave Roberts definitely would fit) should be the priority, along with a reliable 8th inning setup man (Chris Reitsma just might be that guy if the price is right - Tyler Yates, Chad Paronto and Ken Ray are not viable options, IMO). Mike Hampton has to return strong, and I believe he will. The “former” Tim Hudson also needs to show up - I don’t believe the “current” TH is going anywhere. And speaking of going, here’s hoping beyond hope that A. Jones and Giles stay. They are way too valuable - and irreplaceable, IMO. Pay Andruw whatever he asks for - he’s worth it. As for Giles, try to get him signed before he goes to arbitration - another 1-year deal will be fine. He won’t have to be traded to get Dave Roberts or even a guy like Chone Figgins. With Andruw and Marcus, there’ll be plenty of firepower in the lineup, even if Chipper plays as infrequently as he has this year. With just a little tweaking, the Braves should be very competitive next year - but keeping AJ and MG is imperative.

By Carlos Amato

September 27, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

I was just looking at the Braves payroll on:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=atl

Considering that these guys are leaving:

PLAYER SALARY (US$)
8. John Thomson 4,750,000 9. Danys Baez 4,000,000 10. Marcus Giles 3,850,000 11. Chris Reitsma 2,750,000 13. Todd Pratt 850,000 14. Brian Jordan 700,000

Total Team Salary Dump: 16.9 millions

Add that with Smoltz 8 million option (a 3 million discount) and we have 20 mil, witch I think is more than enough for keeping La Roche, Giles, re-signing AJ and going after that Starting Pitcher we so desperately need.

What do you guys think?

By VolfanaticinTenn

September 27, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

FELLOW WRITERS, MY FIRST TIME HERE. BEFORE THE BRAVES ACQUIRED WICKMAN, THE ‘CLOSER BY COMMITTEE’ SYSTEM BLEW 20 OUT OF 40 SAVE OPPORTUNITIES!!!! IF WE HAD CONVERTED JUST HALF OF THOSE, WE WOULD BE 86-71 RIGHT NOW (WILD CARD LEADER BY 3 AND 1/2 GAMES OVER THE DODGERS). THE WICKMAN SIGNING I BELIEVE MAKES US AT LEAST A WILD CARD TEAM NEXT YEAR. SURE, OUR STARTING PITCHING WAS FOR THE MOST PART TOUGH TO WATCH WITH INJURIES AND INCONSISTENCY FROM GUYS LIKE HUDSON AND THE YOUNG GUYS, BUT SOMETIMES THAT IS JUST BASEBALL. OUR OFFENSE WAS NEAR THE TOP IN THE N.L. IN BATTING AVG., HOMERS, RUNS SCORED, ETC MOST OF THE SEASON. THE TRUE DIFFERENCE WAS THE LACK OF CONSISTENT PITCHING AND A CLOSER. OUR EARNED RUN AVERAGE ALL YEAR HAS BEEN AROUND 4.6 OR SO WHICH IS WELL OVER PAST ERA’S OF THE 90’S AND EARLY 2000’S WHEN IT WAS MORE LIKE 3.2. WHAT WILL GET US BACK INTO THE N.L. EAST PENTHOUSE IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE ADDITION OF A STRONG STARTING PITCHER, AND A FEW ADJUSTMENTS IN THE BULLPEN, I.E. GUYS THAT CAN PITCH OUR CLUB INTO THE 8TH OR 9TH SO WE CAN GET THE BALL INTO THE HANDS OF BIG BOB!! AS FAR AS THE LINE-UP GOES, I WOULDN’T RECOMMEND TINKERING WITH IT TOO MUCH. SOME OF YOU MENTIONED DAVE ROBERTS OR SOMEONE AS A LEADOFF HITTER AS OPPOSED TO GILLY BUT THAT IS WHERE I WOULD STOP. OUR LINEUP CAN HIT AND NEXT YEAR I BELIEVE CAN BE DOMINENT WITH MCCANN, ROCHEY, FRENCHY IN THE BACK END FUELED BY THE POWER OF THE JONES BOYS AND RENTERIA UP FRONT. PITCHING, PITCHING, PITCHING….THAT’S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO BOYS AND GIRLS. THE BRAVES DOMINATED FOR 14 SEASONS STRAIGHT WITH PITCHING. THE LAST FEW DIVISION TITLES HAVE BEEN WON BY THE BATS. NOW, THAT IS NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH. GOD, I HOPE HAMPTON CAN COME BACK, HUDSON CAN FIND HIMSELF UNDER A CAP WITH A WHITE “A” LIKE HE DID WHEN THE “A” ON HIS CAP WAS GREEN, AND WE CAN PICK UP ONE MORE SOLID STARTER LIKE MAYBE THE KID FROM PITTSBURGH OR EVEN DONTRELLE WILLIS FROM FLORIDA. KEEP YOUR HEADS UP FELLOW BLOGGERS, WE’LL BE BACK!!!!

By The GM

September 27, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

Heck if we can get two good young pitchers from Andruw, I think we should flip Salty and Davies to the D-Rays for Crawford.

By Mary

September 27, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I’ve loved this team for so long that it wouldn’t matter to me if they didn’t win one game all season. Plenty of blame to go around, but when it’s all said and done, the Braves are the BOMB!!!!! Just wait til next year!!!

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

The GM,

If we trade Salty and Davies we better get a lot more than Crawford.

By Matthew

September 27, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the good wishes, hk.

This really has been a great run of division titles. Think of it-since the Braves moved to the East, no one has been NL East champions other than the Braves (until this year). Some of last year’s Baby Braves cannot remember the Braves as non-champions. Heck, McCann was in such awe of Smoltz the first few games he caught last year that he was afraid to talk to him! That is an amazing run of consistent winning, and the vast majority of MLB gives the kudos to JS, BC, and the rest of the Braves organization. Braves coaches and execs are always at the top of other teams’ hire lists, and the Braves are the model franchise for building home grown talent and cultivating it.

Celebrate Braves fans, an historic run has been established, and a new one will start in 2007!

By The GM

September 27, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Great to see another Big Orange fan in the blog!!! I believe we should trade Andruw, Giles, & Hudson. Get two awesome young pitchers for Andruw (Whose value is going way up with this late season surge). I like the Ervin Santana suggestion. Get a good OF leadoff guy like Figgins for Giles. And just get whatever we can for Huddy. Then you have 2 good young pitchers along with Chuck James and Davies for the next 15 year run!

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

commentary - as we learn from the song “dry bones” (did johnny cash ever record dry bones?), the toe-bone is connected to the foot-bone which is connected to … until we get to the head-bone. if chipper’s head bone has been affected (oh, the humanity!) we could be looking at a real problem here. there can be more to a sore toe than a toe that is sore. toes are not to be trifled with.

By Lew

September 27, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Shaun-That was LOU you were replying to, not LEW who is me. No identity crisis here, LOU is someone else entirely. Decent name-different spelling. He is a perceptive individual like myself, but again, is not me nor an alter ego.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

matthew, congrtulations on having a son! good toes? this is jimmy smith’s wish. now, jimmy smith will ask historian matthew a history question … did famous wbts general john b gordon have all his toes? how about famous john b hood? which one was missing toes? if matthew knows answer then it is the real matthew on the blog this morning and not the stinky impostor.

By TennesseePaul

September 27, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Morning everyone. What a night.

Looked at all the numbers this morning… is it any surprise? Smoltz has been involved in half of the teams shutouts. Of the 6 thrown this season, Smoltz started three. Here’s to hoping Hudson shows up to dominate. And those bats stay alive!

GO BRAVES

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

esteemed journalist continues psycho babble over toes. Oh the humanity!

By 22oz

September 27, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

Don’t forget Hampton’s salary won’t be covered by insurance this year.

By The GM

September 27, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

I’d much rather Andruw be in the AL than the NL but another suggestion for trade would be Andruw for Matt Cain, and Kevin Correia, and Randy Winn of the Giants. That Cain kid has wicked stuff!

By Lew

September 27, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Carlos-We did not pay $4 mil on Baez contract this year, so we will gain no reall salary benefit next year. Giles has not been traded, so you can’t count it, either. A more realistic figure, dumping Thomson, Reitsma, Sosa(gone), Remlinger(gone), Jordan, Pratt and Smoltz’s discount is about $14.5 million, of which $6.5 goes to Wicky. The rest takes care of all arbitration raises (including Marcus) and leaves a few bucks for other holes. Shaun-Carl Crawford wouldn’t be a bad thing for the Braves, nor would giving up Salty and Davies be that big a price to pay. HOWEVER-we need to realize that he is not a leadoff hitter (usually second and presently batting third) and he is cloer to major arbitration and free agency within a year or so. He isn’t as cheap as most think, nor does it fill our need (maybe its a need) at leadoff.

By Glass Half Full

September 27, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

I would be very surprised if Giles returns since the Braves have Prado and Aybar.

By Lew

September 27, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

22oz-Hampton’s salary has been budgeted, according to JS, at $8million per year, every year, and insurance last year was used for other things. It was budgeted that way last year and again this year. There will be no major boost that needs to be dealt with. Even with the budget remaining the same, we do not have the financial difficulties some seem to think we do this year. The only thing we can’t do is bid on big name free agents and we haven’t in recent years anyway.

By Carlos Amato

September 27, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the explanation, Lew. Really forgot about the Baez/Wickman situation (playing just a couple of months). Get those “few bucks” to AJ, then. I think he would settle for a 14-15 mil a year contract (good for him/his family and good for Braves).

But I still think we need that one good SP to fill the 2-3 spot in the rotation… Apart from that, I think bulpen and lineup are ok, considering the returns of Boyer, Foster, Devine, etc, in the pen.

By Lew

September 27, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Glass-Marcus, even at an arbitration increase up to $5million is still a relative bargain, especially if you view this off year as a abberation (actually a bad April). JS may keep him and then let him leave next year to free agency. Just a thought. JS may view himas a relatively cheap bang for the buck. I’m not sure that Aybar OR Prado are ready for a full time job. They may decide to give them an extra year as a backup.

By journalist jimmy smtih

September 27, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

here are some options to surgical repair: bunion regulator, bunion brace, toe spreader, bunion sleeve, toe straightener, bunion comforter, bunion guard, toe alignment splint, bunion sling, or new third baseman.

By journalist dob

September 27, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

steamed journalist jimmy smith, stinky has never impostered matt. ip addresses don’t lie. whoa! what was that? whoa! there it is again. its stinky. he’s everywhere!

By Georgetown Kid

September 27, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

What would a realistic price tag be for Roberts, if we were to go after him in the free agent market?

Is signing him in the open market considered a realistic possibility, given our financial inflexibility?

By P Dub Braves fan

September 27, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

Lew, Carl Crawford was recently (within the last year i believe) signed by the Devil Rays to an extension worth close to 7 million per year for four years. The extension kicks in next year, so if the Braves were to trade for him, they wouldn’t have to worry about free agency for a while.

By journalist jimmy smith

September 27, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

yes, that was dob’s point, stinky. ip addresses don’t lie. dob has caught stinky with stinky’s string out. now, dazzle us some more with a witty rejoinder.

who are we to believe - stinky or esteemed dob? easy one there.

By The Grinch

September 27, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Morning, All. I just caught up on the posts and thought “I can’t beleive someone thinks the Rays would take a kid who hits .200 at AA and a pitcher who (so far) can’t pitch his way out of a paper bag for a proven talent.” Then Shaun comes along and thinks they’d better throw in Kasmir too to make it even. You guys slay me.
Journalist Jimmy (the real one), there was nothing wrong with General Hood’s toes; they just couldn’t re-attatch them to the stump of his leg with medical science at that time. Now, if only they could’ve removed his penchant for yelling “charge” every time he saw a bugler standing around idle, the battle of Franklin wouldn’t have happened and the Army of the Tennessee might still be around. Breakfast time!

By TennesseePaul

September 27, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Lew: The only thing we can’t do is bid on big name free agents and we haven’t in recent years anyway
This isn’t entirely true. We’ve bid, but we haven’t won the auction. We put in bids on Hoffman, Wickman, Fransworth, Furcal, and Jones, to name a few. None of them were winning bids.
It may be a similar situation this season as well. Unless we dump a ton of salary, but that would be pointless. We need pitching and the pitching on the FA market this offseason is pretty slim. There’s only 1 good pitcher and 1 other that’s going to cost a fortune but not guarantee anything great. We’re in the middle of the dud pitching class. You know the class… Wood, Prior, Becket, Burnett, Schmidt, Marquis and so on. Guys with “potential” that spend most of that value on the DL or somewhere yet to be seen. Schmidt has turned around recently, but I’d still pass on him. He has a large DL history and his historical numbers aren’t that impressive. I think any improvement to the starting rotation is going to come through a trade.

I’m pleased we will have Wickman next year. That is a huge boost. But, I’m not ready to believe that Boyer or Foster are going to improve the pen. Boyer is still young and hasn’t pitched in a season. He could come back and be way out of wack. Similar with Foster. I’d love it if they do come back solid, but I don’t want to bank on it.
I’d like to see another veteran down there. I think one more would be enough. I do like the young talent we have, but I would just feel more comfortable with one more reliable, veteran arm.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

The GM,

I don’t think the Giants are going to give up Matt Cain, even for Andruw.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Morning, All. I just caught up on the posts and thought “I can’t beleive someone thinks the Rays would take a kid who hits .200 at AA and a pitcher who (so far) can’t pitch his way out of a paper bag for a proven talent.” Then Shaun comes along and thinks they’d better throw in Kasmir too to make it even. You guys slay me.

I think the D-Rays would love to have Davies and Saltalamacchia.

Yes, Davies has struggled some at the major league level, but he’s posted excellent K/BB and HR numbers throughout his minor league career. He’s still a few years from his peak. Barring major injury, he’ll be a very good major league pitcher.

Saltalamacchia is the top hitting prospect in the Braves system. Almost every hitting prospect becomes something (unlike pitchers they don’t have the same injury risks and the stats used to evaluate them are more accurate).

So, why would you want to trade two talented guys that are going to be very cheap and productive for a more expensive guy with a .326 career OBP. Granted, Crawford is talented and hasn’t peaked yet. But he’s not worth Davis and Saltalamacchia and the extra money the Braves would have to pay him.

By michael

September 27, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Hate to be off-topic here,but am I wrong or am I really looking at a good possibility the Astro’s could be celebrating at Turner Field this weekend?! Here’s hoping the Braves can spoil the fun for Houston! (no hard feelings Astros fans…just a Braves fan looking for a high note to end the season)…and oh by the way…anyone else hoping for a Glavine/Maddux playoff matchup?

By David O'Brien

September 27, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Dadgum, started to read morning posts and saw yours at 8:15 a.m. No need for me to go further. You hit the nail on the head.

SEE NEW BLOG POSTED NOW….

Cretins, you know where to find me.

By Shaun

September 27, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

“I can’t beleive someone thinks the Rays would take a kid who hits .200 at AA and a pitcher who (so far) can’t pitch his way out of a paper bag for a proven talent.” Then Shaun comes along and thinks they’d better throw in Kasmir too to make it even. You guys slay me.

Saltalamacchia has had trouble adjusting to AA but he still drew a decent amount of walks, is a catcher, and is still playing at AA at the age of 21. Given his numbers his previous three seasons, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t make the adjustment.

By Jman

September 27, 2006 01:34 PM | Link to this

Carl Crawford would be an awesome addition to any team!!! Salty and Davies for Crawford.

Although deals like this rarely happen: Andruw, Huddy, and Giles to LA-Anaheim for Ervin Santana, Lefty pithcing prospect Joe Saunders (Who is very awesome, btw), Juan Rivera, and Chone Figgins.

Then Yunel Escobar (SS Prosect) to Oakland for Joe Blanton (Another grade A young pitcher. 16-12 this year.)

Which leaves us with this lineup CF-Chone Figgins LF-Carl Crawford 3B-Ancient Chipper C-Brian McCann SS-Edgar Renteria 1B-Adam LaRoche RF-Jeff Francoeur 2B-Aybar/Prado

Bench Diaz - OF Thorman - 1B/OF Orr - Util. Aybar/Prado - 2B/3B Super sub - Juan Rivera - OF(In 121 games this year has 24 HR, and 84 RBI and only 55K. That’s almost 40 games less than Francoeur and only 2 less HR’s and 15 less RBI, AS A BACKUP!!!)

Projected Starting staff Smoltz Santana Hampton Blanton C. James J. Saunders - 6th Starter/Long relief

Bullpen Wickman - CL Boyer - 7th/8th inning Devine - 7th/8th inning Paronto - specialty Villarreal - Long relief McBride - Lefty

I like my dream world. Does anyone else?

By Bravo Nam

September 27, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Lou As a Mets fan, your respect for what the Braves have achieved is greatly appreciated. I think some of your fellow Mets fans on this blog (NL Champs, Metrosexual Boy, NPD and crew) could learn a lot from you about winning with class, humility and good sportsmanship.

I don’t know what the rest of the Braves fans on here think, but the inundation of this site by little boys like Stinky, Robert and SDA actually make the unreasonable showmanship of the unreasonable Mets fans (there are a treasured few who are reasonable) seem tame in comparison!

Carlos nice to have a genuine blogger on the site. Just wanted to point out though that we don’t need to worry about AJ for 2007- he’s already on the payroll. The thornier issue is whether the Braves trade him in the offseason or keep him.

And to the blogger who a few days back mentioned that the Braves look as though they are no longer trying and throwing games, you obviously haven’t been following this team for long…and clearly don’t understand the competitive spirit and pride of a few characters like JS, Cox, Smoltz, C Jones and Francoueur. They can, and deserve to be criticised for at times showing a lack of hussle, complacency, lack of passion, and an overly cool demeanour that at times looks like they don’t care. But one thing you can’t criticize these guys for is quitting- it’s not in their nature!

By Mystic Man

September 27, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

Delta Dawn Got back too late to post yesterdays blog, so pardon the backstep…

Yep, Frenchy’s troubles seemed to begin when he flew that Delta jet to his 15 minutes of mainstream fame…knockin’ balls all over the world like Clark Kent. His focus on the field faded like a rose in that dated old ditty from the 70’s.

He’s a good kid though. Just got caught up in the fast lane of fame and forgot to do, with consistency, what got him to the ML in the first place. That, and he didn’t have a manager, mentor or parent telling him what everybody knew that watched two games this season. Funny thing is…ESPN and others are still caught up in the misconception that JF is a hot young Cal Ripkin type. Guess they haven’t read the stats either.

If he get’s a little coaching next year…or some bench warming if he doesn’t heed advice…he may actually live up to some of our expectations. I for one hope he fools everyone and becomes the next Dale Murphy.

By Matthew

September 27, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

Jimmy Smith:

The toes are fine on Baby Walter, long like his daddy’s. As to your WBTS generals, I confess I am not a toe expert. I do know, however, that in the surrender at Appomattox, General Gordon pointed the tip of his sword to his toe as a salute. I’m not sure as to Hood’s toes, either, but I do know that even though his arm was shattered at Gettysburg, he wore it in a sling for the rest of his life rather than have it amputated.

You may remember also, my esteemed journalist, that when the Braves promoted Chad Paronto, I suggested nicknames like “Pronto” Paronto because of his reportedly strong fastball. You replied that a better name might be “None.” Hopefully that will verify my identity. I wonder, though, who would want to imitate me?

Have a great day!

By Mystic Man

September 27, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this

Will the “Journalist” dweebs quite soiling this Blog Please

Get a life. Some of you guys should go to a non-baseball, non-sports blog for losers. You might try: losersandcreepsthathavenolife dotcom

By Lou

September 27, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Many comments concern potential trades for the ‘07 season. Just remember one thing, there is no way the brain trust of the Braves will be able to seriously do anything (other than minor trades,back-up players, etc.) until the OWNERSHIP issue is resolved. I just bet there is a memo from Time Warner laying about telling them that until the team is definitely in the hands of Liberty Media, don’t committ big bucks to big time FAs until the ink has dried on the contract. I know of what I speak because as a METS fan, the METS couldn’t do anything when the previous ownership was trying to sell the team to the Wilpons. Fantasize all you want but you NEED TO KNOW WHO THE OWNER IS FOR THE BRAVES AND KNOW WHAT THEIR BUDGET WILL BE-Cold hard facts!

By Chumpy Jones

September 27, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget kids…next season Chipper’s Knot-hole Gang will be replaced with Chipper’s Infirmary Gang…so get your gloves and bandages ready

By Chumpy Jones

September 27, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

Please please please!!!!!!!!

Division titles are so over rated…the only difference between this year and the previous 6 years is this year we won’t loose in the first round…..

If divison titles sre so great why aren’t the Raiders the football team of the 70’s…they won more division titles than the Steelers….because the Steelers won more CHAMPIONSHIPS….Braves win CHUMPIONSHIPS

The Canadians 10 consecutive Stanley cup FINALS is a far greater accomplishment..by the way they won six of them thus beating the law of averages…wait..so did the braves…they failed at an above average rate in the post season…

By Metropolitan Man

September 27, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

Ok this blog is off from the truth. These guys who gave these quotes about the braves streak are not the ones who was on this team during the streak. Julio Franco and Glavine were with you, Wagner Tucker and even Minaya was with other teams. They can say good things becasue they were on the outside looking in with other teams until recently. Anyway ask a Piazza, John Franco or Leiter how this would have have felt and you would have gotten the truth. It was a good run, but it felt greater to be the ones to end it. Ask a David Wright who was in the minors during this. He felt the same way Mcann and Francoeur felt when they helped to win it again last year. Just dont think that the guys who gave quotes about the run mean anything to METS fans except Minaya!

By MEB

September 27, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Metro Man… What??? You comments are so far off base they deserve no comment.

By Metropolitan Man

September 27, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

I know you wouldnt understand, you are a braves fan MEB. You are on the other side looking in also. Maybe in a few years when the METS continue to win this Division it will make sense. I wanted to end the run with the guys who suffered the most during the streak, get it.

By Jai

September 27, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this

First the braves need to get a new 2nd baseman. Giles just isn’t cutting it. They need someone who can hit on a daily bases. They need to address the outfield issue as well. Langerhans and Diaz can play as backup but they must hit the market and get a decent outfielder. Maybe pickup another starting pitcher if the price is right and let Ramirez go. They just need to really work with the guys in the bullpen. The bullpen is not that bad compared to the beginning of the season. Roger just needs to work with the guys in the off-season. Just don’t invite Reitsma back come spring training. Let the cancer GO. There is no cure for what he as which is bad chemistry. The guy cannot pitch to save his life and it’s time Bobby Cox let him go and ruin another team. Maybe this season is a wake up call for next year. I believe the Braves were a little too comfortable in their own skin. Making the playoffs every year assuming no one would beat them. Before they had problems with making it to the 2nd round. Now they have an even bigger problem. GETTING BACK TO THE POST SEASON. All hope is not lost but they must address the issues above in order to get back to the playoffs & WS. The Braves still have a good team and they still have me as 1 of their FANS. To all my Brave Hearts we will get back and will go beyond the 1st round next year.

By robdawg06

September 27, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

I can hear it now… BC : “Gimme a bat Chipper, I’m pinch hitting tonight. You know I’ve been wearing my Braves jersey in the dugout fer 15 straight years and have yet to pinch hit. I activated myself (yep me and Pete Rose are the only player managers…) tonight because I know you’ve got a tender hamstring,sore toe,and the gout. I think my knees will hold up to drive in Aybar, hey Aybar’s on base ? How’d that happen ? Anyways, I heard Billy Wagner lost some umpfh off his fastball down from 101 to 99 mph ? Did McDowell go to the bullpen to warm up ? He’s coming in fer the 9th.”

Manager’s & coaches wearing uniforms… Halloween city !

By robdawg06

September 27, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this

BC : “Ow ! My knees are hurtin’ bad tonight fellers. I might have hit .220 in the early 60’s but I’m feeling it tonight. If I can drive Aybar in, wait Hubbard has been put in to pinch-run for Aybar ? Bobby Dews, you ole rascal…I leave the chicken coop open fer just a second and the wolf comes in… Come on Andy,Roachy,and Kid.” Andruw : “We aren’t batting Bobby, you are.” BC : “Oh,that’s right, I fergot.”

By JT

September 28, 2006 08:05 AM | Link to this

Chipper!! Please Get some Bunion Surgery this off-season or something. My Gosh! Are you gonna make 100 games next year. I believe if Chipper were able to play a full season this year. We win the WC. Regardless of the bullpen woes. He’s been productive every time he’s in there. Mcann is the next Chipper Jones, only a catcher. He could very well be the best catcher to play the game in another 6 or 7 years. I don’t think we can count on Hampton being healthy all of next season. We need to sign another top Starter, and rework the pen. And hey ya’ll, regardless of Kenny Rays woes the last couple mnths of the season. he will be fine if the Braves invite him back next year. You gotta understand he pitched in Richmond last year, then went to Mexico for winter ball, and came out of the pen all year w/ the Braves. He’s been a starter his whole career, he’ll be fine, for all you non-believers. He’s got the stuff, he just lost a little command the second half. Plus, the starters put alot of pressure on the pen this year, you can’t expect AAA guys to hold the fort down all year! We’ll be there Next Season!!

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