Braves

By Brent

July 5, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

Next up:

Hudson turns it around!

By ZB Pike

July 5, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

DOB,

You’re right about the turnaround…is it possible he is wanting out of Atlanta too?? Perhaps he is thinking (realizing) that if he can turn it around, he can sign on with another team and perhaps get a long term deal out of it?!?! At any rate, I’m certainly glad to see him contribute.

I would hate to see 22 leave, but, he is one of the more replaceable pieces and could provide us a good left fielder/leadoff guy in return.

By geauxbraves2000

July 5, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Hudson can turn it around, I truly believe that, but I think Thomson as a starter is done. Maybe he could do some situational pitching from the pen, but even that doesn’t sound too comforting. I think the Braves need to try and get something for him, even if it’s just a prospect or two, who knows, that prospect could be the next John Smoltz.

I hate to see Giles leave, but I agree w/DOB about him being expendable. Maybe a three team swap to somehow get Carl Crawford. Whatever, but a change does need to be made, it needed to be made weeks ago.

If only one trade is made though, I would take some help in the pen over offensive help.

Great article DOB.

Geaux Braves!

By Jason

July 5, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this

Maybe he can share his tips on improvement with Francoeur whose .277 OBP is now third worst in the entire NL amongst qualified batters. He has walked 7 times in 347 AB’s. SEVEN TIMES….why is nobody talking about this?!?!?

By Brent

July 5, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

Jason,

People only wanted to talk about Francoeur’s lack of walks when it was “cute.”

Now, it’s a dirty little secret that might damage his trade value.

By Kent

July 5, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Giles could wind up in another uniform before the trade deadline, but I doubt it. That will only happen if they can get some one in return that will help them win this year. And if Hudson’s going anywhere, it won’t be until the offseason.

The Braves think they still have a real shot at playing in October (because they do), and they’ll need Tim Hudson (the real Tim Hudson, not the one we’ve seen over the past few weeks) if they are to make a serious post-season run.

By Vol

July 5, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

What about Hudson for Brandon Phillips of the Reds? 16 of 17 steals and .300+ average. They have Freel playing the utility role right now and he is a 2B. Maybe we just take Freel and put him in LF.

Would it help both teams (not that we need to help the wild card leader right now)? The Reds are as desperate for pitching as we are for leadoff.

Clears payroll and lets you unload Giles and/or a prospect for relief help.

By Vol

July 5, 2006 03:55 PM | Link to this

Is there any chance at all to get Carl Crawford? Would anybody do Giles AND Hudson? I guess Tampa wouldn’t because of payroll limits.

By Kent

July 5, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Brent: …might effect who’s trade value? Francoeur?????

By Chop Chop

July 5, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this

Brent and Jason,

We talk plenty about Francoeur’s lack of plate discipline and propensity to strike out. The reason why he avoids some criticism comes from his “golden boy” status, although that has faded a little. I like to think that most fans take into account the fact that he’s a very talented kid who was brought up too early from the minors before he was fully developed as a player. I don’t blame him for that and, as a result, will cut him considerable slack. Another factor is that guys like Chipper and Giles haven’t lived up to expectations this year and that takes some heat off of Francoeur. As for me, I expect Francoeur’s plate discipline to improve as his career goes along, but for right now, what we see is what we get.

I guess McCann’s the golden boy now, huh?

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

Jason, I think ESPN and SI have both done stories on Jeff’s obps. I still say, yeah, he needs to learn to take a walk, but if we get 30 hr, 110 rbi out of our 22-yr-old right fielder (and he’s shown the ability to hit in the clutch), that’s okay… worth working with him to increase the obp.

Man, I’d hate to lose Giles - he’s a very good 2b, a hustle guy, but is having a bad year at the plate until recently. I sure don’t think he wants out (only players I can remember that wanted out of Atlanta were Lofton, Sheffield, and Ligtenberg). GeauxBraves, almost impossible to have made the change weeks ago… nobody is willing to deal in May or June.

Crawford would be GREAT and a steal at almost any price (hudson, giles, salty… or some combination of above); he would fill a need at LF and leadoff; beyond that, some solid if not spectacular relief help. My world wouldn’t end if we stood pat and played the string out with this team as it is. Giles and Hudson are relatively cheap next year, and we can have the same discussion next year at this time if things haven’t turned around.

By Brent

July 5, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

Kent,

I was sort of joking.

I don’t see Francoeur going anywhere, anytime soon.

Chop Chop,

I, too, am willing to take the good with the bad as far as Jeff goes.

This Francoeur/LaRoche OBP debate is somewhat mind-numbing.
Sometimes, I like to play the other side of the fence (I’m typically pro-Francoeur), just to see what reactions I get.

Briefly: If Jeff starts to take more pitches, he will likely walk more.
Then, pitchers will be forced to throw him strikes, which he can hit, and his power numbers go up. I see significant upside in Jeff’s future.

Meanwhile, I’d at least like to see him take the 1st pitch a little more often.

By Bigmuddy

July 5, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

The Braves will begin to WIN when they: 1) start playing some small ball (at least moving some guys over) 2) Francour is “ordered” to start being more selective (aka Jim Leyland with the Tigers) and 3) quit swinging for the fence at every at -bat. Does Bobby ever talk about doing these things????

By Kent

July 5, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this

Brent, ten-four. Yeah, Francoeur and Laroche do strike out a lot, and right now at least, don’t hit for a high average. But if you can get 55-60 home runs from two guys that are hitting in the bottom portion of your linup, you’ll take that anyday.

Francoeur has yet to play 162 games at the major league level. He’ll continue to mature as a hitter, and probably within a year or two, he’ll be ready to hit in the middle of the lineup. For now, Atlanta could use another consistent power bat, in addition to some bullpen help.

By Jason G

July 5, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

What about Giles intangibles? I just hate to get rid of a guy that guts it out and gives a 110%, that’s never in a bad mood or down in the dumps and provides a constant shot of adrenaline to the lineup with his attitude/energy level alone. That’s got to count for something. Now that he’s turning it around, why trade him? We suffered through the crap Giles, now why trade him when our patience, albiet forced for reason of no viable alternative, is now about to pay off. I am just not that crazy about giving him up. As DOB said, he’s one of the top 2-3 NL 2Bs around, what would we get for value?

By berigan

July 5, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

DOB, you say Betemit isn’t an every-day second baseman, but who knows, the guy is bounced around, he might be an every-day guy if he played the rest of the way. Wasn’t it tough for the Braves to think of Giles as an every-day guy when he first came up???

By Lew

July 5, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

Not only would Tampa not take on the payroll, the already have Jorge Cantu at second and Gomes as DH, who has much more power than Giles. DOB, you just said exactly what I’ve been saying for a week. I agree with you about the quality leadoff man in return. I would like to see Hudson bring some good, young pitching. We were debating trading Horacio on another site, but I really think he is going to be more than good. He’s young, the surgeryis seemingly behind him and we have the rights to him for several more years. Let’s not get rid of any more kids.

By Peter Gammons

July 5, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Salty, Davies, Langerhans & Betemit to Tampa for Carl Crawford.

By nathan

July 5, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Jason, in all fairness to Francoeur…..He does have only seven walks. But he has LESS strikouts than Andruw and MORE hits than Andruw. Although by barely in both categories. Oh and BTW…….HE’S ONLY 22!!!!! HE’S BEEN IN THE LEAGUE 10 LESS YEARS THAN ANDRUW AND MAKES ABOUT $15,000,000.00 A YEAR LESS THAN ANDRUW!

Give the kid a break. What’s andruws excuse after 10 years? Maybe bobby should put Frenchy back down in the order. But who else that already is lower in the order than him, would you move up? Diaz, maybe, against lefties. But certainly not Langerhans, or LaRoche!

Yes Francoeur is not a COMPLETE PLAYER….YET. But if everybody else in the lineup, rotation, and bullpen were doing WHAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID BIG DOLLARS (at least more than Francoeur is), everybody would be saying “hey, that second year player has a lot of RBI, not to mention he leads the league in 2 OUT RBI!) But instead, everybody wants to jump all over him. Like I said, the kid is 22, I’d be curious to see what Andruws walk rate was at 22. In fact I’m gonna look it up.

That’s all for now!….I’ll be back!

By nathan

July 5, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

OK….

Andruws lowest walk total since coming up full time was 1998 (his second full season) with 40. That year he also had 129 K’s, 31 HR’s and 90 RBI. Francoeur will for sure pass those production numbers. Plus you have to factor in the crap in the lineup surrounding Francoeur. Andruw came up with STELLAR support.

anyways here is the link to the ESPN sight for andruws stats if you are interested.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3520

By Bryan

July 5, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Dave,

I gotta recommend using iTunes for music purchases. On the road, midnight on a monday rolls around, instantly download the newest cd’s (or preview them). All CD’s are 9.99 to download! Yeah, it sucks that its in a ACC format, but if you burn the cd, then rip it back to the computer, you have a mp3 version with no strings attached.

John T looked bad, bad, bad. I would rather see Lance in there… whats the braves over all plan for LC? He is young, had success, and shows flashes of pro stuff.

So, did you have France and Italy in your bracket. I miss the south americans - would have loved to see argentina in the mix.

Bryan

By Bob, journalist

July 5, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

MBATL, Maybe my memory’s faulty, but it seems to me that I remember a fellow named Boone that could be added to the list.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

I was wondering when you were going to point out Giles recent turnaround DOB. I still say we should trade him though - and absolutely for a lead-off man. The problem is, to who and for what lead-off man? Are there any teams right now who have a quality lead-off man that need a solid #2 hitting second baseman? And another question DOB, do you know if the Braves gave any consideration to Kenny Lofton in the offseason? He could have played left-field and hit lead off for us. He had a good year last year plus he has been with this organization before… Did they put too much stock (like I did) on Ryan Langerhans in left or what?

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

Chipper won the NL Player of the week award. What a week he had. I hope his foot doesn’t nag him all season. Maybe this offseason he can have something done to it.

Braves are going to win tonight. Chuck James is amazing, and we are on a little mini roll right now, which needs to be transformed into a major roll.
GO BRAVES!!

By Karl Malden

July 5, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Reading yet another one of DOB’s rah-rah, sis-boom-bah, GO BRAVES blogs, you’d never guess they are in last place in the N.L. East and owners of the third worst record in the National League.

But, according to Dave, right in the thick of that wild card race!

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

I just wanted to comment on the Muts. I agree with the column from yesterday that their weakness’s are starting to show, but name another NL team who doesn’t have more weakness’s than they do? I mean, lets face it, the NL may as well be called AAAA. The Muts could easily sneak into the World Series this year, just based on the fact that the NL is so damn weak. Of course, it sets them up for a nice good hard butt whoopin’ in the World Series, but I could see a scenario where they make it to the World Series…

By nathan

July 5, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

DonCoburleone…..You are right….Lofton would’ve been a pretty good addition. BUT…..If I remember correctly he didn’t like Atlanta and Bobby and JS sure didn’t see the need (or want) to keep him around after 1997. I highly doubt he wouldv’e signed a Free Agent deal to come to Atlanta. But, yeah, he definitely would’ve helped, provided he stay healthy.

By Adam

July 5, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Karl,

True, we are currently last in the NL East. And true, only 2 teams are behind us in the Wild Card Race. But we are only a series away from changing both of those facts. We’re only 3.5 games away from owning the second best record in the NLE, and only 4 or 5 games away from being in the middle of the pack in the hunt for the Wild Card. (And, oh yeah, if we beat up the Reds, things could look markedly different heading into the midsummer classic.) We’ve erased second-half deficits of greater than 8 games before (and it might not even be 8 games a week from now). I’m not one to think that it is impossible to do again.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

..And the absolute disparity in quality teams between the NL and AL is just amazing to me. I mean, take teams like the Blue Jays and Twins… Stick them in the National League, and they are easily challenging the Mets for the best record. But in the AL, they are both a loooong shot to make the postseason. Put a team like the Devil Rays in the NL and I bet they probably lead the wild card race right now. I mean, do the Devil Rays really have that much worse a team than the Cincinatti Reds? If anything, I would give the nod to the D-Rays cuz at least their 1 good starter is a true ace (Kazmir). It is just mind boggling to me how the NL has fallen so far behind the AL. I mean, back to back SWEEPS in the World Series and like 8 or 9 straight losses in the All Star game… RIDICULOUS. - P.S. I know this has nothing to do with the blog, but I love the NL and it is sad to see what has happened to it. Anyone agree with me?

By Adam

July 5, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Let’s forget about the teams we have to catch for the wild card and think about absolute win-loss numbers. The last five years, the NL wild card winner won 89, 92, 91, 95, and 93 games, respectively. Leaving aside the fact that this year the NL teams are struggling, to say the least, that gives us a 5-year average of 92 wins. For the Braves to achieve 92 wins, they need to go 56-22 for the second half. That is asking a lot, but it is not impossible.

By Bob, journalist

July 5, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Nathan, I’m on record for truly liking his swing … when he gets his pitch. However, it’s poor pitching to give him anything to really hit when he’ll swing at virtually anything … I don’t see how the “crap” surrounding him in the lineup has much to do with it.

It’s disappointing to read the posts and listen to announcers rationalizing on behalf of Frenchy … pointing to the numbers … homers, RBI, and even his batting average … and calling the first part of the season just a slump.

The fact that he’s now getting some basehits does not mean that any significant progress has been made in addressing his weaknesses … only time will tell.

When a player with average ability overacheives, that’s to be loudly applauded … but, when a highly talented player performs at the same level it’s disappointing … at least from my perspective.

It’s there for his taking.

By Adam

July 5, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this

Let’s forget about the teams we have to catch for the wild card and think about absolute win-loss numbers. The last five years, the NL wild card winner won 89, 92, 91, 95, and 93 games, respectively. Leaving aside the fact that this year the NL teams are struggling, to say the least, that gives us a 5-year average of 92 wins. For the Braves to achieve 92 wins, they need to go 56-22 for the second half. That is asking a lot, but it is not impossible.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

Not alot of bloggers today, everyone must still be on vacation from work… LOL.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

56-22 not impossible? You do realize how good the Tigers have been this year right?? And that there record right now is 56-28?? And the Braves are going to do better than that in the second half??? HA!

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 06:23 PM | Link to this

OUCH! On the cover of the ESPN.com homepage!… I’ve been waiting for the Northeast homers at ESPN to start dancin’ on the grave…

By michael

July 5, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Forever now I’ve been thinking the Braves need to trade Giles for pitching help. Now I’ve changed my mind. Keep him. You can never have enough guys who give it everything they’ve got every single game. If the Braves don’t go to the playoffs this year, I’m ok with that. They don’t have to win every year. Some teams go years and years stinking up the place and making last place their home. Right Mets fans?

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 06:50 PM | Link to this

Bob, you’re right about Boone. However, the guys I mentioned, and Boone, are all slight ‘head cases’ in my humble opinion (I think Boone was juiced bigtime and that caused his silly emotional outbursts down the road, but what do I know?). Anyway, I just doubt Giles is manipulating his play to orchestrate a trade out of the ATL, as someone early on suggested.

Regarding Frenchy, I may be citing his good stats to say I like him, but at the same time, you’re completely discounting them in favor of “obp.” OBP does not drive runs home, does not pick up a guy from 2nd with 2 out, does not hit a game-winning homer, doesn’t score from third on a fielder’s choice (like last night) and doesn’t make a great running catch in right.

I still think that by age 25 he’ll be taking 60 walks a year and will be one of the best in the game.

Somewhere between my view and yours’, I’m sure, lies the truth!

By Dr. Jay

July 5, 2006 06:54 PM | Link to this

I just took a look at that ESPN article, and I gotta say it could have been worse. At least it’s not mean-spirited like I would assume from some at that network. Maybe we’re out of it this year, maybe we’re not. Let’s face it, nobody from the NL is likely to beat the AL representative in the World Series this year anyway…indeed the entire Senior Circuit is weak by comparison. So, let’s not panic. I just hope Schuerholz will have more patience than most of us, keep one eye on next year, and not make any forced moves which could strip the team of what could be a great next few years.

By David O'Brien

July 5, 2006 07:05 PM | Link to this

Chipper’s foot injury isn’t nearly as bad as the one he had last year, and he’s planning to play every day through the break and then play a normal schedule after the break, barring setbacks.

Surgery isn’t being discussed this time, because there’s no tear in the tissue, no severe bruising of the “plantar plate” etc. Anyway, he’s playing and said he feels a lot better. Will have a cortisone shot only if necessary this weekend.

By hk

July 5, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this

jimmy,

… you made me laugh very hard with that one … I am most appreciative of your ‘toes’ counselling … but you know how often when one part of the body weakens, other parts pick up the slack ? … with my hip deal, the ‘toes’ have actually grown stronger and more intelligent, they are able to grip surfaces, sustain balance … Microsoft has recently anounced work on a ‘footpad’ for laptops, I’m quite excited, I think my ‘toes’ could do it !!!

… can’t stand it, once a piece of ‘nonsense’ gets in your head, it’s hard to shake … jimmy, if one becomes too fearful of ‘toe’ problems, it can poison one’s confidence … too much reliance on a ‘toe man’ can result in ‘toe man’ poisoning !!!

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:15 PM | Link to this

Calling it right now… Braves win 7-2 tonight… I’M CHUCK JAMES BIATCH!!!

By CITYofdecatur

July 5, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

Please Please Please enough with Carl Crawford as leadoff he hits 100 pts less in the leadoff position.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

DOB Did you have a guy in mind in this article when you were talking about trading Giles for a lead-off man? And please just answer me this… Would you trade Hudson for Broxton (LAD) right now, straight up?

By JJMB

July 5, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

Giles is hitting better, but he is still a BIG part of the Braves being in last place. HOLY JEBUS, did you see the rack on the FOX sports gal interviewing Bobby!

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

$5 says this game gets rained out…

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

1,2,3 First inning… I’M CHUCK JAMES BIATCH!!!

By journalist jimmy smith

July 5, 2006 07:47 PM | Link to this

just when jimmy smith was getting ready to call a toe truck for chipper jones he has a miraculous recovery! he is in the lineup and so far there is no evidence that he is wearing a big, red shoe. guess we will know when he comes to the plate.

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

…Maybe 7-2 is not a big enough blow-out for this one…

By MEB

July 5, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

5 runs so far in the first inning… I thought it was southern hospitality to spot the visitor a couple of runs. Go Braves!

By DonCoburleone

July 5, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

This blog is dead… GO BRAVES!

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

I’m liking the way tonight looking…….I think Chipper’s presence makes a big diffenrence.

By journalist jimmy smith

July 5, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

chipper’s running good for bad toes. what a great start! renteria got ‘em going and they kept going. this is a different team when they get pitching. how will james handle a lead?

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

Bob, regarding Frenchy and OBP: if Jeff had walked 10 more times this year… that’s roughly once more every 10 days (not a big number, in other words) his OBP would be about .315 and his BA .264. Neither is a HOF number, granted, but the national media wouldn’t be on his back. I just think OBP is way overrated except maybe for leadoff hitters.

By Woogidy

July 5, 2006 08:19 PM | Link to this

DOB, How is Davies coming along

By David O'Brien

July 5, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Karl, you obviously are new to this blog if you believe I write rah-rah blogs on a daily basis. No one who covers the team regularly is more critical than I am, and if they are, I’d ask you to point them out to me.

I have made it clear time and again I think the NL East is out of reach for the Braves now, but as I said, I’m only pointing out that they believe they can still win the wild card if they play well the rest of the year. What exactly would you write here, that the season’s over and they might as well hang it up? Then what would you write the next day? And the next?

See, you’re an everything’s black-or-white guy, when sports, like the rest of the world, is actually more gray. It’s not all-or-nothing. They’re not winning the division one day, then out of it the next.

Besides, please add something of substance to the post or don’t bother writing, just read. It’s too easy to use an assumed name (Karl Malden’s good, though, being a Streets of San Francisco fan myself) and to take shots at the guy writing the blog. You contributed nothing.

By David O'Brien

July 5, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

Bryan, I don’t want to download CDs at midnight on Monday and pay $9.99 for the, then burn them or rip them or whatever on my computer.

I’m old-school, dude. I want to walk into the store, look at the CD cover, listen to a few songs on the headphones at the listening station, then buy it and take it home, open the CD case, look at the lyrics and/or pictures in the case, etc.

For those of us who used to buy albums and dig the cover art, inside sleeve art, etc, it’s bad enough that we had to get used to the downsized packaging of CDs. But you’ll never convince me that it’s as enjoyable an experience listening to a downloaded CD without being able to read the lyrics, check out where the thing was recorded and when, who’s playing what instruments, who’s sitting in and providing guest vocals, etc.

Just different philosophies. I lke the artist’s entire presentation, the packaging and everything else. I don’t like downloading anything I don’t have to. The laptop’s for work and e-mailing. That’s it. I’m a dinosaur, I know. But a happy one.

Now, let’s find something to rah-rah about with the Braves, to p* off the bitter Karl Malden.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 08:50 PM | Link to this

How bout the offensive explosion!!!!!!!!!!!!

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

I love all these singles. This small ball approach is paying off. Keep it up Braves!!

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

First, I’m a big Carl Crawford fan, and I mean big. But folks, he’s tried leadoff some for the Rays, and that hasn’t worked out too great. I do, however, think he would be good fit in ATL (just not leadoff), and would give the team some outfield insurance in case they can’t sign Andruw (and BTW I don’t think they’ll have any trouble finding a number with which both sides can live, but that’s another post).

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

Tuborg may not be the comfortable shoe that Carey and Sutton are, but he’s pretty good. I’m really appreciating his insights. If they could hire Simpson on, I’d be happy.

By Vol

July 5, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

Rah Rah!!!

First the Braves will clinch the division, then they will beat Italy in the World Cup because they are THAT GOOD.

Rah Rah!!!

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

jeez, DOB, wouldn’t YOU be bitter, too, if you had to deal with Michael Douglas every day at work???

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

There are 25 series left in this season. Cox likes to manage from one series to the next. If we win all the series, or at least sweep a handfull (Pirates, Giants) we can pull this off. Plus 3 of those series are against the Mets. That represents +/- 9 potential games in the standings.
There is still a shot at this thing.

AND THERE IT IS… every starter, save the pitcher, has an RBI.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

Someone wrote earlier that the Braves will help the Cards end their recent slump…looks like that’s happening. 11-1 Braves in the 4th inning. Unless a massive blowup occurs, the Braves will win the series and be well on the way to a winning homestand.

By Vol

July 5, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

I guess Chuckie James’ weakness is he can’t hit. I can live with that.

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 09:02 PM | Link to this

Chuck James needs to work on his AB’s with runners on. That’s 6 guys! I’ll let it slide this time… he’s Chuck James B!tch!
GO BRAVES

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

Chuck’s chink, he’s a dink with the stick!

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t it be great to hear 30,000 fans chanting “Chuck James, b***!” while the announcers tried to ignore it and talk over it? Damnit, 2 run homer.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

Chipper is red hot right now.

By Calvin

July 5, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

Who woke Chipper up?

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

Chipper getting hot while AJ’s on a slump is a good thing….mabey they can ping off one or another the rest of the year

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

hide the wives and daughters, I think those boys will be ten kinds of happy when they leave the park tonight. Just one of those nights when everybody gets well, but it sure is good to see.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

AJ should be taken out……..10 run lead…..same with Chipper.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

Oh by the way where’s the chipper bashers…….just wondering if they think he is still washed up. I still Dont think he’s a real homerun threat, or at least not what he used to be, but still can get the job done with doubles and singles.

By Calvin

July 5, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

I am sure Bobby will take both of them out after this half inning is over.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

Very strange that there has been no Homeruns…..

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

You take AJ when were losing big but when were winning bigger you keep him in….have to second guess bobby here

By Bob, journalist

July 5, 2006 09:35 PM | Link to this

MBATL, If you showed me a medical report saying that Boone wasn’t … I’d probably suggest that an investigation of the doctor was in order.

Giles is a different story … I wish he had a level swing but he gets his uniform dirty and I’d choose him for my side if we were picking teams out on the back forty … for baseball or fightin’.

My Frenchy remarks were not directed at any particular posts …. but primarily at the Radio and TV guys. I basically agree with your comments about him. I think he’s a great talent and accepting anything but the best from him requires some plate discipline on my part, especially at the dinnertable. He’s a special talent like Andruw Jones and Rafael Furcal.

He may just be the best raw talent to don an Atlanta uniform since Dixie Walker managed the Crackers … but I fear that to allow him to simply find his own way will deprive him of being all that he can be.

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

NSCoots, yeah, the numbers bear out what you’re saying about Crawford; but still, hitting leadoff, his obp is pretty high. Bobby likes to assign roles (as we have seen) and let guys work into them. I don’t know Crawford’s game all that well, but bet that handed the job, he could do it. He looks to me like a very good ballplayer, and affordable, but, who knows, you may be right… I’m basing my opinion just on numbers, not on seeing him play that much.

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

Let me ask you something: what is the big deal with calling everybody a b!itch? Is that just the latest ‘hot’ phrase on the street? Is it ‘cool’ to emulate street punks? Just asking; I honestly don’t know! It’s just a little difficult for me to imagine people wanting to imitate and glorify losers by using their vulgarities. Somebody help me out here!

Is this a great game tonight or what??

By Bob, journalist

July 5, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

10 Paul, averaging over 2 runs an inning exceeds even our expectations!

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

The 1st homerun comes from a rookie….lol…thats awesome

By Beachcomber

July 5, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

Assignment for Chuck James in side sessions and the offseason, develop a pitch to induce ground balls. Pitchers with his ground ball/fly ball ratios don’t last long unless they light up the gun at 96 or so. Maybe a visit to Dr. Glavine.

By journalist jimmy smith

July 5, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

elevation. it was elevation and it worked! a noted toe man alertly prescribed elevation and look what has happened! for more on this curative therapy you may consult:

Crevier-Denoix, N., Roosen, C., Dardillat, C., Pourcelot, P., Jerbi, H., Sanaa, M. and Denoix, J.-M. (2001) Effects of heel and toe elevation upon the digital joint angles in the standing horse.

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Crawford could PROBABLY hit leadoff and PROBABLY do well at the job, he’s just an oustanding talent. I guess my point was that, if there’s a trade to be made for a leadoff hitter, then Braves are unlikely to trade for a guy unused to hitting leadoff. That just puts them back where they were at spring training. That being said, I’d pay for the fireworks if they can trade for the guy.

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 09:52 PM | Link to this

Carolina Lady: The phrase “Chuck James B!tch!” is a play off of a TV show, The Dave Chappel Show. In that show there is a sketch called Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories. Charlie Murphy recounts his day’s hanging with Rick James. About the only thing Rick James ever says is “I’m Rick James B!tch!”. It’s pretty funny. Kids love it out on the street. Makes ‘em all giggle.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this

In all seriousness, I think it would take Hudson to land Carl Crawford. Worth it? Probably. Hudson isn’t winning us games and plus that $13 mill salary in 2006.

By Bob, journalist

July 5, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this

My Lady, I hope that it isn’t but unfortunately, I wouldn’t be surprised if were self proclaimed … Rick James, now deceased, was a black junkie … popular entertainer, who made the vulgar expression famous.

By TennesseePaul

July 5, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Bob: Yes, 2+ runs an inning is more than I’d hoped. But honestly, how else could it be? This team has been living on the long ball to score. As soon as a game like this comes around they all see the benefits of walks and singles.
Only 5 strike outs, 2 by James! That’s a massive improvement.
This is the type of game for the hitters to build off of. Chuck, I’m excited he should get the win, but he does have a little work to do. There is always room for improvement. But I think this kid is going to be great!

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 09:57 PM | Link to this

Thanks, TNPaul! :-)) Guess you had to be there, huh? :-))) I appreciate the enlightenment!

By journalist jimmy smith

July 5, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

hi yo silver was also quiet popular and in much better taste. this team is playing better since the return of carolina lady.

By Woogidy

July 5, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

By the way, Crawford stole home tonight.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

Hmmmm. I think I’m on to something. Hudson for Crawford, then the D-Rays could trade him to the hughest bidder (i.e, Yankees) the same day.

By Calvin

July 5, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

glasshalfull, you mean for 07 not 06.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

Highest, not hughest

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

Decided not to attend the game tonight due to the forecast.Looks like I missed a good ‘un…..fireworks to boot.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this

I meant, ‘08. Hudson will earn around $6 mill next year before his “raise” in 2008. Sorry, Miller Lite and typing don’t mix.

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

Evenin’, Journalist Bob! Thanks for the explanation. I never saw that show - kinda obvious, huh?? I’m afraid that much of what passes for ‘humor’ on TV these days isn’t very appealing to me; I just don’t find it funny. Don’t watch much TV at all, now that I think about it, other than the Braves and 2 or 3 others.

Bob, let me take a moment to tell you how much I appreciate your kind comments while I was in the hospital! A Nobody (my cousin’s husband) printed out many of them and brought them to me. So humbling! Thank you! :-))

When was the last time we saw the Braves in a game like this one? big grin here

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this

Francoeur has walked seven times?I must have missed the last three or four then.

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this

Lady, please know that Bob spoke for a lot us (as usual, with more eloquence!) re your abscence. I, too, believe your presence on the blog is probably at least part of the reason for the Braves’ turnaround!

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

Would any of you trade Salty and Hudson for Crawford….cuz I think thats what it would take…..I would if were up to me.

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

Hi, cousin Jimmy! Thank you, sir! How was the BBQ? Being on the DL these days, I did nothing - and actually enjoyed it for a change!

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

Lots of upside to Crawford; he’s young, relatively cheap, fast, and would be around for a few years before being lured away by the Yankees during free agency (anyone ever notice how players come to the Braves and have great years only to go to the Yankees? It’s like we’re their AAA team).

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

Hey, NCScoots! You’re really kind and I mean it when I say I appreciate it - ‘cause I do! Are you a fellow TarHeel?

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

Salty is not living up to his mega-prospect status. Remember Betemit was the top dawg for a few seasons, but couldn’t put it together…I think he made the roster last year because he was out of options; he did great, don’t get me wrong, but we may be waiting for YEARS for Salty and wind up with a bench guy once he makes the club.

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

you bet, though not a native. been here so long now though that I feel I could claim nativity!

By MBATL

July 5, 2006 10:22 PM | Link to this

Billy, I think I’d do that deal. So much upside on the money side, and we’ve got pitching coming along…

Glass Half Full: who have the Yanks taken from us? Sheffield, whom we never should’ve paid; Jared Wright…okay. Farnsorth? Stanton? I guess I may be forgetting someone but don’t see where they’ve taken so much from us.

By Billy (TBFNB)

July 5, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this

What really make’s me feel good about this game is it’s against one of the best teams in the NL. We were able to handliy beat what many consider the proposed NL repersentive in the World Series this year. It’s an uphill battle but I think were defenitly in the wild card. Wonder what other clubs will say after this series.

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

NCScoots, what part of the state? I’m on the SE coast.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:25 PM | Link to this

And that’s the problem with catchers…you can’t wait forever for them to break-in. A 27 year old rookie catcher (I know Salty isn’t 27 yet, BTW) is like a 32 year old outfielder with bad knees).

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Also Chris Hammond,who had a career season in Atlanta before taking the bucks from the Yanks.he didn’t last long in NY.

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this

Also Chris Hammond,who had a career season in Atlanta before taking the bucks from the Yanks.He didn’t last long in NY.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

To be continued MBATL…soon all of our favorite Braves will be wearing pinstripes once we can’t afford them. Oh, don’t forget Nick Green in a round-about sort of way.

By journalist jimmy smith

July 5, 2006 10:31 PM | Link to this

carolina lady, the hartebeest is a tough animal to barbecue. first, he did not wish to cooperate. second, he would not stay in the marinade. lastly, hartebeests are tough to chew. instead, journalist tried something known as sousemeat that jimmy smith read about on the blog. afterwards jimmy smith did not feel so good and that is why journalist has been so easy on dob today. now, how did bob do with his barbecue? the souse is a difficult animal to barbecue as well. toe health on this team seems to be back to normal. this is very encouraging. they don’t have to hit the ball out to win. is anyone paying attention in the dugout?

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

I actually considered the Yanks a legitimate team before they began constructing their own personal All-Star team after losing the series to the D-Backs. The Yanks from 1996-2000 were damn near perfect. Forget the “curse of the Bambino.” How about the “curse of A-Rod?” who Boston was targeting. Lost 4 straight in 2004 ALCS. Eliminated in the first round last year. 2006? We’ll see.

By ncscoots

July 5, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

Lady, I’m found in the Sandhills, thanks for asking…

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

The Yankees need to be careful.Adding too many ex-Braves to their roster could be damaging to their playoff hopes.

By nathan

July 5, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

Bob Journalist……I was out, so sorry for the late response.

I totally agree with you, if I was an opposing pitcher, I’d throw 4 straight balls WAY out of the strike zone to Francoeur, until he showed me he was willing to take 4 walks a game.

As far as the CRAP around him in the lineup. I didn’t mean that that helps or hurts him in any way. I was comparing him to Andruw when he came up. When Andruw came up, he had McGriff, Chipper, Klesko, Javy, Grissom, Lofton, and later Galaragga etc… There was NO pressure on Andruw to put up huge numbers offensively when he was young. It seems to me that everybody expects BIG things from Francoeur. As do I. Just not in his second year.

If we are still having this conversation in 3 seasons, then I’ll be worried. LOL

Sorry for the confusion on my point.

By Todd A

July 5, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

Those Yankees teams(‘96-2000) were comprised of mostly farm hands(Geter,Rivera,Williams),and low level free agent types(Brosius,O’Neil).A perfect winning combo.

By Carolina Lady

July 5, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

Jimmy, the souse does much better broiled. There are some here on the property I can send to you if you’d like.

I sure did enjoy that game tonight! Such a relief from - well, let’s just leave it there, shall we? :-) No need to revisit misery! Obviously, all the toes are in proper alignment with the moon and stars!

By nathan

July 5, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

BTW…..calling the surrounding lineup around Frenchy, wasn’t directed at Renteria and or McCann. And obviously (at least temporarily) Chipper and Giles have turned it up a notch. If that continues, the lineup should roll for a while.

By crap, I meant, no other consistant RBI threats in the middle of the order. For instance, if Francoeur would have been called up in 1996 like Andruw, he more than likely would’ve hit 8th in the order that year, and probably 1997.

But with this lineup, Francoer is NEEDED to produce with Chippers problems and Andruw as the only other RBI guy.

By Glass Half Full

July 5, 2006 10:46 PM | Link to this

I know there are plenty of BC haters out there, but tonight when they