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By BravesJihad

May 8, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

Any chance Jurries will be called up to play first?

Can the Braves package Giles & Reitsma in a trade for a reliever, and have Betemit play second & hit leadoff?

By Tomahawkin

May 8, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Also later on in da season we have I believe 24 of our last 38 games at home, so I’m not panicking til july 1st…We usually go through our June Bloom and are right back in the thick of things…As a matter of fact we need to start tomorrow night…Every team in the NL has beat up on the marlins, This series will be an indicator to as if we can get out of this funk

By Rob

May 8, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the info DOB, great as always. Since it seems like a strong possibility that the Braves will be seeking bullpen help once the trade deadline gets closer, do you have any ideas who might be “on the block” in the way of our prospects? Or will a trade more likely depend on the other team targeting a specific player within our system?

By Bob Horner

May 8, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

Why can’t Chipper play first and let Betemit play third? God bless Laroche but he has the slowest swing in baseball.

By Homer

May 8, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Everyone is banking on past history, the Mets collapsing, etc. etc. I don’t think the ghosts of Braves’ seasons past will be coming to the rescue this year.

Unlike the Braves, the Mets have a bottomless pit of money to go out and plug a needed hole, such as Zambrano, with a Barry Zito or Dontrelle Willis. When that happens, its over.

Unlike seasons past when the Mets had a rag arm behind the plate. That’s not true anymore. They have a solid firstbaseman (we do not)and a certified relief stud in Billy Wagner. The Braves’ current lineup does not match the Mets. I’ll give the Braves the edge in overall starting pitching - for the time being.

I’m a 30-year fan of the Braves, and I’m not too confident in our chances this year.

By david

May 8, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

DOB I saw the CMT special about Cash(it was excellent)and I also got to see Dylan and Haggard this past Thursday night.They too were amazing.On to more important matters,do you think JS can wait till the deadline when other teams are out shopping in masse or do you think he will try to pull a deal together during May?

By Rob

May 8, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Homer,

I don’t disagree with your point that the Mets definitely have the money to make plenty of moves, the question is whether or not they have the prospects. They really only have one desirable commodity in their farm system, Lastings Milledge. The thing is that they currently view him as such a can’t miss prospect, they might hesitate to trade him away, even for a Zito, Willis, or Zambrano (who is not going anywhere I don’t think). Unless the Mets are willing to mortgage the future (which I don’t put past them), they simply don’t have the prospects to pull off a trade for one of those pitchers.

By Chop Chop

May 8, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

The best chance the Braves have to come back and win the division is for the young guys to start being consistently good at the plate.

When (not if) Schuerholz has to go out and get another closer to replace Reitsma, I don’t ever want to see Reitsma in the closer’s role again. That would be two straight years that the Braves have had to trade for a closer because of Reitsma’s ineffectiveness. He may not be the greatest setup guy in the world, but Reitsma is much better in that role. If Joe Nathan becomes available, he’s the guy the Braves need. If the Twins are out of the hunt in June and Schuerholz’s hands aren’t tied because of the impending sale of the team, that is the guy he should target.

By teoa

May 8, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

Nice article, DOB. A few comments…

Adam LaDouche has 32 Ks in 95 at-bats, and has struck out once every 3.5 plate appearances, the highest ratio among NL lineup regulars. LaDouche is 5-for-42 (.119) with one homer and four RBIs in his last 16 games, and his .200 average is fifth-lowest among NL regulars.

If these numbers aren’t bad enough, it’s even more troubling that Bobby considers someone with these credentials to be either a 4 or 5-hitter. Maybe senility on the part of the manager should be added to the list of concerns.

The bullpen is decent in the middle, and I think Schuerholz will do something to address the closer situation if Reitsma doesn’t provide more reason for confidence by July.

“Decent” may be a bit generous considering the Braves are on a record pace for blown saves with only 2 from Reitsma. I agree the Braves are better in the middle than at closer, but that’s not saying anything. I really hope they don’t wait until July. Since Reitsma has never shown anything his entire career that indicates he can be an above average pitcher, what could he possibly do over the course of the next two months to turn it around? It’s a little hard to close consistently when you don’t have either dominant talent or the right mental makeup for the job. I still think it was completely inexcusable to go into the season without any other options in the pen, especially after the Reitsma experiment had already proven to be a complete and total disaster last year. When Reitsma throws away games like on Friday night it is worse than a normal loss because it’s so demoralizing to the team and prevents any momentum that could turn into a winning streak. I think if Reitsma is still the closer through June, it won’t matter what they do in July.

By the way, any guesses on whether Time Warner (and Liberty) would be willing to consider a deal that increases salary before the sale goes through?

By Adam

May 8, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

DOB: Great blog today - missed ‘ya! I’ve heard a few possible names mentioned in connection with the Braves - Torri Hunter, Shannon Stewart, Jose Guillen and (gasp!) Carl Crawford. Also heard the Astors might be willing to move Lidge. Can you speak to any of these rumors? Who would help us the most?

By Homer

May 8, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

Rob,

Due to Pedro’s health & Glavine’s age, the Mets want to win THIS year. Thy have a solid roster. Their only weak spot is their starting rotation. They have no qualms about trading a top prospects for a proven starter. If they do not win this year, it may be awhile as Pedro will be older next season, Glavine will older and a free agent. I can’t believe they traded away Kris Benson before this season. They are surely regretting that move!

By doc

May 8, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

dob, glad you are back dude.

with that many red flags it seems like the tent ought to be folded but i agree it is way to early. the first fifty games are serious with two thirds away from home. if we are sniffing .500 and within seven games then it should be fun to watch the team rally back. agrre, phillies could be the hurdle as i am not impressed by what the mets have for arms in spite of what they have spent. dont know what they have in the farm to bring up or trade so cant be too sure of myself but i think they will do the big fade like they always do in august.

By Blake

May 8, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this

Adam,

I think most of those rumors are closer to fantasy than anything else.

By LostinMiami

May 8, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Mr. Trout, in the land of the Sailfish and the home of the Braves, the numbers are 4 8 15 16 23 and 42.

By Rob

May 8, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Homer,

You are absolutely right that they are going for it this year. I just know they’ve put a “not for sale” sign on Milledge in the past, and his performance has only improved since then. And this is not to discount you, Glavine could still be gone, but he recently restructured his contract so there is a team option for next year, and a player option if he achieves certain criteria. But they are definitely regretting the Benson move right now.

By jomalan

May 8, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

First, which closers are available for trade that the Braves can afford?

Second, I was wondering the same thing as Bob Horner. Have the Braves considered moving Chipper to first to make room for Betemit to play everyday? The Braves could use his bat in the line-up and LaRoche’s out of it.

AND God bless Brian McCann.

By forcesaberz

May 8, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

Hey a fun fact… Billy Wagner has actually blown 3 out of his 10 save oppurtunities … thats worse then reitsma’s 2 out of 8 blown saves :-) However, Wagner just got unlucky or screwed up those 3 times….he’s dominant when he is on which is most the time. So I know he’s much better then Reitsma, but just thought that was interesting

By wes

May 8, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

DOB, when does it become apparent to everyone that Betiment needs to be playing every day? Left field, first base, second base, I don’t care; but he is certainly playing better than the players currently manning any of those positions…..

By doug

May 8, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

dob, i have heard that laroche is in the bullpen alot practicing before games. do he offer any promise there? what kind of arm does he have? could he be situational to get out left handers? just wondering?

By David O'Brien

May 8, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Blake, glad you said it before I could. Most are fantasy. I think it’s too early for anyone even remotely close to contention to trade away pieces of their team. Someone like, say, Reggie Sanders, obviously is on a team not going anywhere, but I haven’t heard whether Braves have any interest in him at all. Tony Clark is possibility, but again, I heard only lukewarm-at-best interest from Braves.

As for Lidge, how many saves does he have to blow before some Braves followers begin to question whether he’s worth the money or worth what a team would have to deal to get him? I mean, have you seen what he’s done lately?

If anyone has a clue as to what the new owner might do with payroll, it ain’t me. Sorry, but I’m not going to act like I know when I don’t. And I don’t think anyone else does right now.

Oh, and Chipper isn’t moving to first base, much as some want him to. Just because it makes sense to fans doesn’t mean it’s a serious possibility, and believe me, it’s not. He’s not moving to first base at midseason. He’s played pretty well at third base defensively, and he made it clear a while back that he’s not moving again. And I don’t blame him. Why do folks believe Chipper should move every time there’s a weakness elsewhere, just because he moved before?

The guy was out of position and uncomfortable in outfield, but he played there without complaining until his health wouldn’t permit it anymore. Now that he’s back at the position he’s comfortable playing, why should he, a proven veteran who already renegotiated his contract and saved the Braves some bucks in the near-term, why should he be asked to move again simply becuse LaRoche isn’t getting it done and Betemit can play third base?

If anything, you’d ask the younger, less-established player (Betemit) to try first base, not Chipper. Chipper took groundballs there a couple years ago and wasn’t comfortable enough to make a midseason move. So why would he do it now? Answer: He won’t, and he won’t be asked to. Period.

If Betemit wants to play, maybe he should ask to start taking grounders at first base in addition to his other pregame work. Like Jordan did. But then, Betemit likes his role now, and is damn good at it. Braves bench already is thin enough without removing him from it.

Chipper isn’t moving to first base this season. Move on. Or keep discussing it. But I’ve answered, at least to best of my knowledge.

By Rob

May 8, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

DOB,

Since a large part of the offensive problem this year seems to stem from K’s (Giles, LaRoche, Francouer…), has TP been working with any of them on taking a different approach at the plate, or is the thinking to continue doing what got them here(by which I mean the majors) in the first place?

By Rowland

May 8, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Stay the course. It’s early. Things will improve. This ain’t the Pirates, folks.

By Bob

May 8, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

DOB, My only real comment for the day is my last one on the previous Blog … suggesting, among other things, that you might not show as promised … posted about 30 minutes after you posted today’s Blog.

Another example of my “good” Timing.

Welcome Back!!

By Jman

May 8, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this

DOB, glad youre back.

Giles is definitely in a funk. But I dont believe Betemit would be the answer in the leadoff spot either. I think Langerhans maybe the long term solution there. I dont think it is an enitrely bad idea to trade Marcus though. I have heard that although happy in Atlanta he would like to be on the west coast. Dont remember where I heard that, but I have heard it on more than one occasion. Why not deal him and a prospect to Oakland for Duchscherer or even Huston Street? and play Betemit at 2B have him bat 7th or 8th in the order and move Langy to leadoff. Duchscherer is an awesome setup guy and closes often as well. This is PURE speculation on my part. I have not heard any rumors to this effect. I have called for trades in the past that have actually turned out to be rumored though, so maybe this will work as well. But something definitely will have to be done soon. Giles, LaRoche, and Reitsma all need to be replaced, or used as trade bait. I would take almost anybody of Laroche at this point. Poor kid cant get it done. And Reitsma is not a closer. Move him back into the setup role. He’s better there. I would rather just get rid of him comepletely though.

By journalist jimmy smith

May 8, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

at times, trainers are worth their weight in gold (famous trainer dave pursley was worth a bundle in his day). the person who suggested francoeur wear a protective pad should be credited with francoeur’s timely, and significant improvement at the plate. you can see francoeur is refreshed and confident -all this with comfort, to boot. the protective pad is a wonderful thing. maybe such a pad is in order for laroche. now, jimmy smith responds to other bloggers: baby seal has posted and jimmy smith does not know how. journalist suspects an impostor though the purported baby seal post makes better sense than some jimmy smith has seen. trousermouth has disparaged journalist jimmy smith. jimmy smith does not know everything but journalist jimmy smith is always seeking more knowledge. that is why jimmy smith reads dob every day (that is every day dob writes something). now, bobby cox … (tread lightly jimmy smith) … esteemed braves manager loves corn dogs. give the skipper a corn dog, some mustard, and a little hot sauce and stand back. this is but one component of his success and logevity. in contrast, willie randolph will not eat a corn dog. go figure.

By Chop Chop

May 8, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

DOB, Chipper is a poor fielding third baseman. That is why I want him moved from third base. I’m also realistic enough to know it’s not going to happen anytime soon. I will say one thing, though: Hank Aaron played a good deal of first base for a couple of years (‘70 and ‘71) for the Braves. If he did it in his later years, surely Chipper wouldn’t be too good for it.

I agree with you on Betemit. The Braves need him off the bench right now. Besides, odds are that he’ll end up in the lineup for Chipper (due to injury) or Renteria (rest for his back) for some short stretches during the rest of the season.

As for Lidge, if the Astros dealt him, they would be admitting that they don’t think they can fix him. I don’t think they could get a lot for him in a trade because of the way he’s been pitching so far. Right now, he has 11 saves, but he’s pitching a little like Mitch Williams after his World Series blowup with the Phillies. Even so, I’d love to have him as the Braves’ closer over Reitsma. He’s struck out 392 men in 275 innings. That’s not a typo.

By Chop Chop

May 8, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Let me add that I’m not saying that every guy can make the move to first base, but it’s not that difficult. I also want to add that Lidge is a long way from being the Wild Thing. Lidge is a dominating closer who has had impeccable control in the past. If he isn’t hurt (and isn’t mentally scarred), he’ll be fine.

By Kieran(Long Island Braves fan)

May 8, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

What’s the Word on Richmond closer Chad Paronto? I recently heard Richard Neer talking about him pitching great down there and they he could possibly be up in the majors very soon. Whats the report on him; is he good enough to pitch up here, and would the Braves ever think about just calling him up and announcing him as the closer maybe to spark some confidence in him?

As much as Bobby Cox has helped this team clinch 14 division titles through his infinent confidence in his players don’t you think he’s clinging on to some of these guys for sentimental reasons? Such players, namely Adam Laroche and Chris Reitsma, have been really been hollowing this team, and where he may have created somethign out of nothing with Brian Jordan, Mike Remlinger, even Jeff Francour, Bobby has to step in and do soemthing differant with these spots because 1b and closer are positions that are of critical importance in a pennant race.

By Paul

May 8, 2006 06:21 PM | Link to this

On the topic of LaRoche, the guy is in a serious funk, his timing is way off, but I just don’t think Bobby is going to give up on him considering the usually stellar defense he plays at 1st. I think it’s high time that McCann moves up to the 5 spot in the order. When Andruw was going through some of his extended slumps a couple years back didn’t Bobby move him down to the 6 or 7 spot in the order?

By geauxbraves2000

May 8, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Maybe this has been said before, but if the Braves are swinging at just about everything, especially a high number of first pitches, why throw them a strike? Until the bats get a little more patient I think the offense will only get worse.

By A New Closer

May 8, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

Someone JS needs to take a serious look at is Fernando Rodney with the Tigers. He filled in for Todd Jones to begin the year and went 5 for 5 in save opportunites. So far this year, 13 innings pitched with no earned runs, 12 strikeouts, 4 walks and 4 hits allowed. You would think between Oakland and Detroit and their 4 closer-caliber relievers, we could take one of them off their hands.

By TennesseePaul

May 8, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this

DOB: It’s good to have you back.

Just as they thought last winter, the Mets will need another frontline starting pitcher to win their first world championship in 20 years.
The most sensible maneuver is a deal for Florida’s Dontrelle Willis, even if it costs Lastings Milledge.
“No chance,” one person in the Mets’ loop said yesterday
—Ken Davidoff (Newsday)

Mid-season moves mainly depend on the players, not the money. So even though the Mets have deep pockets, they can’t just send cash off to a team and buy a player from them. That team is going to want a player or two or three in return. That’s when the Mets farm comes into play, and they don’t have much of a farm anymore.
They traded Scott Kazmir for Zambrano… After that burn there is no way they are going to trade Lastings Milledge.

Couple of other things… Jurries is injured. And while I’m at it, so is Kelly Johnson. So they are not the solution to the Braves troubles right now.
A trade does need to happen. I’d hope sooner rather than later. We need a bat and a closer. The closer is going to cost a fortune in a trade. However, Guy did print this little tid-bit: The top reliever at Class AAA Richmond has been Chad Paronto, who has four saves and a 0.57 ERA in 11 appearances. The Braves could also promote starter Travis Smith, who is 2-0 with a 1.97 ERA. I’m currious about these guys. I recall a lot of questions about Travis Smith before the season… Maybe they could work out and lock up that spot for the Braves so all we’d have to do is get a bat.

DOB: I’m glad you are stamping out the Chipper to First moves. It just isn’t going to happen. And I like the defense of keeping Willy B on the Bench. He is super solid off the bench and we really need that right now. But, as long as everyone else is dreaming up irrational trades and moving Chipper everywhere, here is what I’d like to see. I’d like to see the Braves trade for Miguel Cabrera and move Chipper to first. LOL. I couldn’t even finish typing that without laughing. But it sure would be nice.

What’s up with Scott Thorman? Is he a posible candidate at first? Going to yet another young guy doesn’t seem like the right move, but it is the cheaper move. I’d imagine LaRoche could be packaged in a trade with maybe a pitcher from the minors for a major league reliever. The Cubs need a first baseman… I doubt it will happen though.

Also, so glad to see you put Odalis Perez in perspective. That guy is all hype. His mouth is the most productive part of him. I watched him blow a six run lead the other day, single handedly. It was the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. And he does that crap all the time.

By anotherearlyexit

May 8, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

I heard Buster Olney on Mike&Mike this morning declaring Billy Beane would trade Barry Zito to the Mets for Lastings Milledge tomorrow if the Mets would agree. I got the impression that the fact Zito is a FA at the end of the year and had no extension was the only thing keeping the Mets from pulling the trigger. Buster was pretty emphatic IMO.

I don’t believe the Mets will win the division with their current 25 man roster. That’s not the same as saying they can’t. I bet Pedro spends at least 2 weeks on the DL this year plus as the year goes on he is more likely to become a 5-6 inning pitcher.

As far as the Braves are concerned, I don’t think closer becomes an issue til the playoffs. We have the won the division several times w/o a “real” closer. I am more worried about the lineup now. I think we have to juggle the lineup a little by moving Mcann to #5. DOB has already made mention of prod from corner OF spots and 1B. We gotta get more from LF, RF or 1B.
The lineup would become a lot better IMO if they would just quit striking out so much. Until they do that we really don’t know what we’ve got. I believe the hitters are better than they are showuing now.

By geechee

May 8, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

David, this was a great column.

By hk

May 8, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

… doggone, did it again, posted in the obsolete blog, oh, well … back in 1997, my son started keeping a Braves MVP during the season, which was the total of Projected Runs plus HR’s plus RBI’s for key players… talking back and forth on the net, I started plotting it in a line graph … ten years later, still at it, thought I might as well post it since it’s an off day …

… here is a ten year line graph … Andruw (blue line) and Chipper (red line) are the only two guys that have been there all ten years …

… below that is a table showing the latest week, plus some two year graphs at the bottom that are easier to read … too early in the season to see much of a pattern, but the table is interesting, shows projected stats … for instance, Frenchy right now is projected to have 73 Runs, 31 Homers and 115 RBI’s by season’s end …

here

By Bryan

May 8, 2006 07:34 PM | Link to this

David,

Finally got the Neko Case Cd (picked it up at Wuxtry of all places). Great cd - so good my girlfriend has stolen it for the time being…

New Red Hot Chili Peppers comes out tomorrow! All the reviews are good - and if its as good as there last to I will be happy.

How is Jurries?- I only heard a blip about him being injured. How do you think Diaz is doing so far? Jordan?

I think Bobby made the right choices coming out of spring (especially in regards to Joey D!).

Bryan

By Bob

May 8, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

journalist jimmy smith,

So I break promises …

I’ve never been known to admit that I don’t know everything … Mama taught me to be like the father of our country … but I can understand you hesitation since Uganda had a different founding father.

Rumored quote from Uganda’s founding father: “worms posing as fish often find themselves on end of same hook” … I think it was Washington that said “worms best remain hidden in the dark … those venturing out into the sunshine usually shrivel up and die”.

Baseball: Anyone wanting to see why Frenchy may one day have a chance to be the first player since Ted to hit 400 and the first since Roger to break 60 without help … need only to reflect on his best swing of the year, maybe his career … 6th inning HR … in yesterday’s game.

When he learns to relax and swing like that consistently … and only at pitches in his “hitting zone” … he’ll be awesome!

I know some folks want trades but I’ll this starting eight, regardless of order … Prado, Wilson, Edgar, Larry, Bryan, Ryan, Jeff, and Andruw … with a lineup like that, order shouldn’t matter too much. Of course I’d rather have Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar and Edgar; assuming he can pitch.

By David O'Brien

May 8, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

Paronto could be the guy called up tomorrow, though nothing announced yet. Bobby liked him a lot early in camp, then he struggled and got sent down. He’s been around long time, journeyman guy, the size of a pulling guard _ but doesn’t throw real hard, oddly enough.

Thorman has been playing some OF along with 1B, which tells me Braves either preparing to bring him up for bench help or showcasing him for a team interested in him as 1B/OF.

Diaz has been OK so far, nothing outstanding. Jordan has been better than I expected, at least in past couple of weeks. And with LaRoche struggling, Jordan could get more playing time. I know, nothing exactly revelatory there.

Neko Case … oh man, what a CD. What a woman. She’s as hot as her voice is outstanding.

By Bob

May 8, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

Hk, pills are kicking in and I’m out of here in just a bit … had trouble finding the link; guess Dame Agatha was right.

I’m sure you saw my post referencing you and Julio … he didn’t seem to mind, hope you diddn’t either.

By journalist jimmy smith

May 8, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

bob called trouserman a worm in a very nice way. good job, bob! jimmy smith was taught very good manners by his momma. bob, too, uses nice words to slay the dragon. now, paronto … jimmy smith knows nothing of paronto and is still glad he is coming to town (like santa claus) … but journalist is distressed to learn from dob that paronto does not throw hard. closer-man should be fearsome with many tattoos and strange delivery. know anyone like that? now, laroche … has thought been given to changing his theme song when he comes to bat? perhaps he requires something more to create the right mood at the plate. what music is appropriate for adam laroche?

By Art Vandalay

May 8, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

The reason moving Chipper to 1st would make sense is because it would keep him from getting injured, not because he’s done it before. I guess if you say it won’t happen then it won’t happen, but it definitely makes plenty of sense as far as extending his career and keeping him in the lineup, as well as improving the hitting in general.

I really think a closer is really the only thing the Braves need — getting a closer would improve the depth in the bullpen by a lot, since Reitsma could go back to his more comfortable role of setup man. The starters are good enough, assuming Hudson can get his head out of his azz by the time July comes along. Giles and LaRoche really can’t get any worse, my guess is they snap out of their slumps eventually. And let’s not forget that the schedule has been real tough so far. Let’s see how far back the Braves are after the Mets face some tougher teams and the Braves face some cupcakes.

By journalist jimmy smith

May 8, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

thanks to the blogger who suggested, “pop goes the weasel” as theme song for adam laroche. selection committee must reject this entry for adam laroche has no pop in his bat. merely batting like a weasel is not enough. now, suggestions from jimmy smith: show tune! that’s right - show tune! something from ethel merman, perhaps. this should shame 5-hitter into hitting better.

By Carolina Lady

May 8, 2006 09:04 PM | Link to this

Jimmy, Toby Keith has a great one for Brian Jordan: “I’m not as good as I once was, but I’m as good once as I ever was”. :-)))

How are Baby Seal’s singing lessons comoing along?

‘Seal of approval’ was great! Always enjoy your wit and humor!

By James

May 8, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

BC who I support but not always agree with really baffle me this pasat week. Not pitching C James but 1/3 of an inning in 17 days? No wonder he was rusty and got hurt. Batting Frenchy 5th the other day? If the Braves get 10 games out They would have to play great ball and the Mets have a injury or two and slump just to catch up by the all-star break. McCann knows what hes doing at the plate and got the average to prove it with his line drives. Our 5th and 6th holes really hurt but happy with 1-4th. Make perfect since to put McCann at third and put Chipper at 5th with Frenchy at 6th. At least our first 5 or 6 braves look better than our first 4 now. The best news is if the Braves get out of the Race by the trade deadline we can get some great prospects. Thats how we got John Smoltz. So you about bet Giles ,Thomson, Sosa, and maybe a big surprize will go somewhere else.

By forcesaberz

May 8, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

whoever mentioned oakland trading Street I think is grossly wrong. Why would they trade a guy who has been excellent and is still a young kid? They wouldnt

By James

May 8, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

McCann batting 3rd

By journalist jimmy smith

May 8, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

carolina lady, singing baby seal is most entertaining. to quote dob, “what a seal! baby seal is as hot as voice is outstanding.” seal is learning cowboy songs, happy trails is favorite. seal also enjoys back in the saddle again - especially yodels. seal is quite good yodeler. jimmy smith thinks seal may be gravy train for jimmy smith in a few years -yodeling seal could have own tv program. hey, geraldo once had program of his own. now, brian jordan theme song - your selection is a good one. now, crows … jimmy smith did some investigative journalism and found home depot sells plastic owl to scare away crows. $14.86 plus tax. in case bob is bob nardelli, journalist would like to complain that only one register was open at home depot tonight.

By Tampa Braves Fan

May 8, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

I have watched the Braves since the 70’s and agree with most of this (1B,LF,Closer). One thing though: I know he’s a hero, and I loved him as a player, but doesn’t Terry Pendleton need to take some blame here. We have NO OFFENSIVE DISCIPLINE. We don’t work a pithcer (outside of Chipper and Renteria) ever. Frenchy hasn’t walked yet, Giles and Roachy strike out three times more than walk. What is the common denominator? PENDLETON! Kill the sacred cow.

By Carolina Lady

May 8, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

Jimmy, Roy would be proud! Home Depot, huh? One of my favorite places! And I’m seriously considering the owl!! Wonder if it also frightens the other birds; hope not - would defeat the purpose.

By James

May 8, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

Just saying with 8 or 9 games out first in the first week of May tweak the lineup 1) Giles 2)Renteria 3)McCann….Andruw will get better pitches 4)A Jones…Chipper will get better pitches 5) C Jones..Smart hitter no matter who hits next 6) Francouer 7) Jordon or LaRoche 8) Langy or Diaz or Betimit

By Joe Roman

May 8, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this

I know I’m not the only one to bring this up, but what is the deal with Beltran? Does he have it written into his contract that he only has to play his position 85% of the time? Some of his efforts in centerfield seem to be half-hearted at best. As I said commenting on Mark Bradley’s column, I think the Braves, espeically Cox, perceive the Mets as physically strong, but psychologically vulnerable. That’s where all the poor mouthing comes from-assuredly NOT panic. The cool the Braves exude drives the rest of the league nuts. That’s all Cox with Scheurholz backing him up. It’s like a poker game. No matter what your hand, you always think the guy who keeps beating you has a better one.

By Chad

May 8, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

The Braves don’t need to circle the wagons just yet. They do need to stop NY from aquiring Zito or Willis though. Both of which could probably be dealt for. Instead, I see some bone head move for a retread…..like Rafael Palmero at first to replace La Roche. I’m sure he’s out there somewhere. There’s plenty of talent to move in order to get help, but what ATL really needs to do is prevent the Mets and Phillies from adding another big gun. It’s time for JS to break out that “Built to Win” handbook and gitter-dun!

By N GA BOB

May 9, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

GET OVER ANDREWS FOR ANY HELP BECAUSE HE WON’T. THERE’S ALWAYS SOMETHING WRONG WITH AJ AND HIS BACK WON’T BE THE ONLY THING HURTING THIS SEASON. THERE’S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE FOR HIS FAILURE TO PRODUCE. WHY HE KEEPS GETTING TOP DOLLARS IS BEYOND ME. I CAN’T FIGURE WHY THEY KEEP HIM???? NOW SOMEBODY BLOW SOME SMOKE AND TELL ME HOW VALUABLE HE IS.

By Penn

May 9, 2006 12:02 AM | Link to this

We are all really happy about Renteria and rightfully so. But we should give equal billing to Brian McCann. He not only is a fine player behind the plate, he has a great arm and is cool in the batter’s box. Nothing shabby about a .345 avg.

Thorman is playing well with a BA of .300. And he bats left. And he’s only 24. He and Jordan would make a good platoon and both could play either the OF or at 1B.

By forcesaberz

May 9, 2006 12:06 AM | Link to this

What happened to Palmero this year anyways? Did he retire?

By Penn

May 9, 2006 12:08 AM | Link to this

I’d love to see Dontrelle with the Braves. Atlanta fans would go crazy over that kid. And he’s a solid citizen. He is not hampered by an “attitude” but just goes out and plays his game. He also lugs around a decent bat. He has been used a number of times as a PH by the Marlins.

Cabrera is slated for super stardom if he can harness the swelling in his head. He is not nearly as good at handling success as is Dontrelle. Sorta grates on you. Reminds me of Kenny Lofton at times, not exactly the kind the Braves like in their locker room. He would run into major trouble with at least a dozen Braves.

Zito? Just pray the Mets don’t get him. That would be disastrous.

By Bob

May 9, 2006 12:32 AM | Link to this

Jimmy, The Lady

Jimmy, wish you were right but that’s another wrong guess. My personal guess is that Nardelli may be cutting back on staff in an effort to save some more money … to help Authur increase his offer.

Forgot to tell The Lady that my brother bought 2 of the White Owls with what appeared to me to be “glow-in-the-dark”, jeweled eyes … one to keep in his garden and the other in a tree near his deck … even has a “hooting” sound track, triggered by movement attached to one. The verdict’s still out on their Scarecrow talents but there’s been no evidence that they’re affecting the other birds.

Sorry, I jus’t resist … did you two see the AJC headilne … “The AJC’s Guy Curtright sees plenty of room for improvement in his early-season analysis.”

Talk about self reproach … I thought the boy had done a pretty good job myself.

I did think that Guy’s “The Six Out Inning” contained some “food for thought” for those dissaproving of Bobby’s antics/tactics:

Guy noted that Bobby is third all-time on the Manager Ejection List and could finish as the career leader. Here are the top 5 in order:

(1) John McGraw - 131, (2)Leo Durocher - 124, (3) Bobby Cox - 119, (4) Earl Weaver - 97, and (5) Frank Frisch - 86.

That’s being in mighty fine company … or high cotton, at least in my book!

I was a little surprised not to find, one of my favorites, Gene Mauch on the list … didn’t see him manage much after his playing days were over … but with his temper; I would have expected him to get ejected at least 20 times a year.

By forcesaberz

May 9, 2006 12:33 AM | Link to this

ESPN analyst said that he thought Zito was no longer a #1 or #2 starter but was more middle of the rotation. Granted, middle of rotation is what the Mets need, however they arent going to trade their top prospect (who apparently all the scouts rave about) for a middle of the rotation pitcher. Zito hasnt been as good as he once was and I have a hard time seeing the Mets trade their future away for someone who isnt a possible ace. The Mets may have money but they are not the NY Yankees (who emty their farm league)

By Braves fan

May 9, 2006 12:36 AM | Link to this

How is Jurries doing in AAA, why not call him up and send Diaz down and let BJ be the back up outfielder. i think that would be an upgrade, or at least better than how it is now. Just a Thought…

By TennesseePaul

May 9, 2006 12:50 AM | Link to this

forcesaberz: I agree. I mentioned that above. After the Scott Kazmir fiasco, I can’t fathom the Mets trading Lastings for anything short of a 19 year old superman. Especially since they have Nady in right field. Nady has been doing well, but Lastings is supposed to be much better, so why trade that guy away when you have a spot ready for him? Makes no since at all.
I think it will be a little tough to fill that void for the Mets since they won’t have any big chips to trade. Oakland likes to get young players, the Mets are short on those. It would probably have to be a multi-team deal if it was going to happen.

I am curious, how is JS going to prevent anyone from getting a player? What’s he do to do that? Does he beat down the door and ruffle all the paper work on other GMs desk?

By David Duncan

May 9, 2006 12:50 AM | Link to this

I agree with all your pessimistic reasons for why the Braves will not win the NL East this year.Chipper Jones is washed up and can no longer carry the Braves. Andruh has the talent but is so inconsistent. If the Braves remain pat and do not make any changes between now and July 31st, this Braves team will finish 20 games behind the Mets. Laroche needs to be on the bench. He just looks awful at the Plate.

By Miles

May 9, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this

Forget Jurries who is an awful defensive player, why not Scott Thorman??? He was rated as the top defensive 1st baseman in AAA and he has a good slugging%. He’s also only 24 years old so there’s still plenty of upside.

By forcesaberz

May 9, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this

Guys, Jurries is injured right now … that would be the main reason he cant be called up ;-)

By forcesaberz

May 9, 2006 01:13 AM | Link to this

JS could block a trade by offering a sweeter deal. I think this could be easy to do if the Mets go after Willis …. Even without trading Salty we have a lot more to offer FL then the Mets. Willis would be great to have…imagine 3 great starters leading the way. Thats like the Astros last year. If Dontrell goes to Braves, Phills, or Mets that will be a huge swing in the division for whoever gets him (cause not only did the other not get him but now they have to play against him as well). Dunno, we’ll see. Fortunetly I dont think the Yanks could get him cause they dont have any cheap talent to trade ;-)

By Bob

May 9, 2006 01:37 AM | Link to this

N GA BOB,

I know it’s late but here’s a serious question … which Andrews are you talking about? Because of the “Back Problem” and “AJ” references, I assume that it’s Andruw Jones and my remarks are based on that assumption.

Alot of people use Andrew to refer to Andruw … either because they din’t know his preferred spelling or because they’re trying to get his supporters to rise to the bait.

Regardless, I would think that most baseball fans, regardless of the team they support, like Andruw first and foremost … because of his smile, good nature, child like honesty, and desire to play every inning of every game. He’s a good role model for kids following and playing baseball.

Fans of all ages, players, coaches and managers throughout baseball generally admire and respect his defensive talents and rank him high on the list of the game’s all time best centerfielders. Willie Mays thinks that Andruw’s pretty good too; said so more than once.

I may be wrong but I believe that most Atlanta fans would want Andruw in the lineup each and every game … even if his power numbers fell and his average was well below the Mendosa line.

Pardon the “tongue-in-cheek” but you’re in good company in wishing that the Braves would trade him … all opposing National League Managers wish the same. It’s unlikely to happen any time soon … unless the new owners have a secret agenda.

If yours are the sincere comments of a fan that doesn’t like Andruw as a player; that’s fine … we all have our own lists … but have patience; he’s young, a bit stubborn and has yet to reach his potential … he may never reach the Great Expectations of some … but, you can rest assured that he’ll give it his best shot!

By forcesaberz

May 9, 2006 01:56 AM | Link to this

Problem with Andruw right now has to do with LaRoach…. LaRoach is doing so bad now that Andruw gets absolute crap pitches to swing at. And he doesnt have Chipper’s patience so we’re not talking a lot of walks here. Put McCann in the No 5 slot and get Andruw to be a bit more patient and problem should fade.

By HEAD CAOCH

May 9, 2006 03:02 AM | Link to this

Nice to have you back Dave O’brian. I agree , no need to panic . however I sense some urgency in the mood of Smoltz and Chipper. The next ten game against Florida and Washington should prove interesting, are we a contender or pretender ? is this team about to pull it together or was sunday just a blip on the screen. This team has holes , big ones. Can they be filled , can JS afford to fill them ? I’ll be sending the jury out on May 31st , it remains to seen what the verdict is and the fat lady is still in the dressing room . There is time too fix this debalicle of a baseball team.

By Bob

May 9, 2006 03:24 AM | Link to this

HK, I like Mr. Smith’s third eye and keep a visual showing it in the middle of the forehead; where folks expect to find it.

Being me, I prefer my “use your third ear” reference because it’s less natural and causes some folks to ponder its position.

forcesaberz; good post, but I’m the only one allowed to be up this late.

I agree that better protection would help Andruw and at the moment, Adam’s not providing much. Strange that Adam has been getting quite a few walks lately … some intentionally to get to Jeff.

Bobby and his advisors have a lot to consider when setting the batting order … and with the number of “streak” hitters that seem to be on the team; you’d think that “who’s hot” and “who’s not” would be one of the primary factors considered … from where I’m sitting, it just doesn’t seem to be the case.

I’m among those who think Adam’s “long smooth” swing can be a thing of beauty … but right now it frequently either looks “just long and slow” or like he starts his swing before he picks up the pitch.

I’m begining to have concerns that Terry may be less proactive than the developing talents on this team require and I’ve posted my wish that we had more insights into his approach.

He’s been a lot of credit for Andruw’s “new” stance … and I’m sure he played a big role in motivating him to stay the course … but, that wide stance probably brung Andruw to the dance … he just tried something “new” when he got here.

By Blake

May 9, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

I agree that this thing is far from over. However, the next two and a half weeks are by far our best chance to make up ground on the Mets and Phillies. Look at the schedules, we MUST play good ball with the Marlins, Nats, Cubs, and Padres coming up.

Quit bashing AJ he averages close to 155 gsmes every year. Give me a break guys

By Jeff

May 9, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this

Who knows if the Braves can take the Mets in 2006? Reitsma’s not a closer, no matter how much Cox and company wish it so. What’s the solution, then? I certainly wouldn’t trade good young talent for a 2nd tier closer. I’d see if a combo of guys on the staff could get the job done. It’s worked before. Inconsistency is a hallmark of teams with a lot of rookies and sophmores, and the Braves have their share of the latter. Checkout the stats of players like Bonds and Glavine and Maddox in their first couple of seasons in the Bigs; nothing to write home about. The Braves are changing, and suffering some growing pains. But that’s better than sitting pat with an old lineup waiting for the Big Fall.

By mark

May 9, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

I dont understand it. Anyone reading this blog who thinks that all the Braves need to do is ad a closer and replace Laroche with another minor leaguer is simply kidding themselves…Forget the Thormans of the world. The Braves NEED ANOTHER BAT! if they can get a strong hitter AND a closer (equally important)we might be able to move on the Mets. As far as Zito and Willis are concerned, as much as we would like to talk about “blocking” the Mets, I simply dont see the Braves paying the salaries of either player. Consequently lets concentrate on obtaining a big bat and a closer. If there is still an opportunity, getting a leadoff hitter would be nice. But adding three quality guys at once, or in a very short timespan is difficult.

By Scott

May 9, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

I like the look of this line-up: 1) Langerhans 2) Renteria 3) Chipper 4) Andruw 5) McCann 6) Francoeur 7) Giles 8) Jordan

By JOHN B.

May 9, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

I’m still hoping that the Twins continue to lose. If they do, they will likely trade Hunter (10.2 million), Castillo (5.1 million) and Nathan (3.8 million). Hunter is TOO expensive and NOT useful to the Braevs. However, Castillo is a very good defensive 2nd baseman and he knows how to get on base. Nathan is a great closer with playoff experience. These two guys are exactly what the Braves need.

The Braves have plenty of good prospects like Hernandez, Pena Jr, Brayan Pena, Thorman and many others to trade to the Twins for them. They could also include Giles in the trade to the Twins or make a separate trade: Giles with Ramirez, Reitsma or Sosa. Trading one of those guys with Giles would free up some money (6 million). Giles will have value so the Braves would be able to get a quality prospect back in return.

By Scott

May 9, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this

Wishful thinking, but aren’t we all. Would love to trade Giles for Roberts in Baltimore, Lopez in Cincy, or Castillo in Minnesota. Package some prospects in for a closer as well.

By Paul Hamilton

May 9, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

I would prefer that the Braves concentrate on pitching. I hope the Braves look longterm over a one year fix, we have been trading away a lot of talent for one year guys that really don’t even help that much. Until this team proves it can get its act together and contend, JS would be wise to hold on to the young talent. Please no more one year fixes unless its just a great deal or a top notch talent that will 100% help Braves. I can’t believe Ladouche is still in the lineup, but that’s a BC signature move, stick with the veteran guy no matter how bad it gets.

Oh and I don’t think the Braves will have to block the mets at anything. The price will be high for starters Zito and Willis, we already know that the Marlins asked for Wright in return for Willis. I will die if they give away another big time talent to the mets, mlb needs to stop that s**! The mets don’t have many prospects to bargain with. I hope the mets fans send thank you cards to the marlins, trading that much talent in your own division is just wrong. They need to fold the marlins if that is there philosophy, buy high and then sell cheap when you don’t win, and to a division rival at that.

By doug

May 9, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

the braves have an excess of young talented shortstops and catchers, the mets apparently only have one prospect worthy of trading for zito. it may be time to move salty or one of the shortstops for zito or willis. hey, why not us?????? we can afford it.

By Matthew

May 9, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Scott:

Your lineup makes good sense, but will it happen?

I am waiting for BC to shake up his lineup a little, just to get the fans excited and put some pop in the bats. McCann behind Andruw makes good sense (he’s been raking lately), but he’s not a home run hitter yet. Ideally, Andruw would get the fat pitches and drive in Langy and Renteria, then Chipper and B Mac could continue the inning with a double, then either Frenchy of Giles could double them home. The potential for a LOT of runs is there, but I don’t know if the shake-up will happen.

It’s easy to criticize BC from this blog, but then again, I don’t have 14 straight division crowns.

By geauxbraves2000

May 9, 2006 09:29 AM | Link to this

1) Langerhans - poss only other choice for leadoff 2) Renteria - Ideal #2 hitter, can’t move him from this spot 3) Andruw - Need to have his bat in the 1st inning, provides more pop than Chipper 4) Francoeur - laugh if you will, but batting between Andruw and Chipper would be good for him, but ONLY if he’d start taking some walks 5) Chipper - provide some protection for Francouer, giving Francouer some better pitches to hit if Francouer is patient. 6) Giles - Has enough pop to hit 6th 7) McCann - Young hitter, though he is an excellent hitter, no pressure from the 7th spot, can pick up Giles 8) LaRoche - even though he’s botched a couple of plays, I still like his defense. He has enough pop to stay in the lineup and hopefully wouldn’t be a liability in this spot.

IMHO

By dylan

May 9, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Bob I feel a need to address some of the things you have mentioned in regards to andruws stance it isnt what brung him to the dance he didnt start using it till Albert Pujols came up Andruw has been the guy that tinkers with his stance every season that he feels he underperforms. Something the stat guys have siad for awhile and a theory that the Oakland A’s live by is that a player cannot learn to have a good eye at the plate either you see the ball well or you dont teaching someone to recognize pitches might be accomplishable but teaching someone to judge pitch location is insanely hard this is why walk to strikeout ratio is so important when judging young talent, with that said Frenchy will never ever be a 400 hitter taht is the most absurd thing I have ever heard from what I can tell his best seasons should have him somewhere in the 275-285 range in average and hitting 35-40 homeruns if we get taht production out of him we will have done well remember for all of andruws homeruns last year his average was mediocre because he is not a good judge of the strike zone and will swing at things off the plate. So lets not balme TP for the lack of walks its the style of players the braves draft that have put us in this position not a hitting coach that has the sense to not try and change too much of what got these kids here.

By Dave Knockahomer

May 9, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Okay, DOB and everyone else!!! Someone may already have addressed this but I just gotta have my say! I am sick to death of Jeff Francouer this and Jeff Francouer that! Who made him the savior of this team? Chipper and Andruw doing well, BUT BUT, WILL SOMEONE GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE! DOB, you did not mention Brian McCann whose batting average is as good as Renteria! NO ONE mentions Brian…maybe he ain’t the STUD some people think the dorky Francouer is but he is damn good and downright consistent! that is more than I can say for anyone else on this team except Renteria. So WHY NOT GIVE HIM CREDIT? He is in his sophmore year and making Jeff look like an amateur which he is. Yes, he may come around, Francouer that is, but don’t hold your breath.

DOB you did NOT even mention McCann in your positives! [if you did I didn’t see it!] Are you blind? This guy may end up even better than Johnny Bench….. so media folk, WAKE UP!!!! Fans, Jeff Francouer is NOT a one man band or team!

By Greg

May 9, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Paronto is not the answer. The last thing we need is another soft tossing reliever. Does anybody in the minors have a plus fastball? If he does, then get him on a plane to Atlanta. None of our relievers have real gas.

By Dave Knockahomer

May 9, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

jomalan you are so right when you said:

“God bless Brian McCann”

journalist jimmy smith, please.his name is BRIAN[ not BRYAN…….Okay. That shows how much attention bloggers pay to who is doing so #$!@%^%^ good……He and Renteriea……aint just Renteria, Renteria, Renteria, etc………its Renteria, McCann, Renteria, McCann, etc. and Penn is another true baseball person……one who KNOWS! cause Penn said:

“We are all really happy about Renteria and rightfully so. But we should give equal billing to Brian McCann. He not only is a fine player behind the plate, he has a great arm and is cool in the batter’s box. Nothing shabby about a .345 avg.”

darn straight…..nothing shabby at all about .345

and James! THANK YOU WHEN YOU SAID: McCann batting 3rd but how about this lineup

Lead off: Langerhands, then Renterai, McCann batting 3rd; with Andruw 4th and Chipper 5th…….6th would be Giles, 7th, LaRoche and Francouer 8th. Cox likes to have righty, lefty in the lineup and this does good

So, some of us bloggers know a premiere catcher when we see one, I do hope DOB wakes up and starts tooting his horn for McCann. If he doesn’t I sure wish he would tell me what he has against McCann.

Yes, McCann has been seriously overlooked.

enough said……

By Scott

May 9, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Chipper ain’t moving from the 3 hole in the line-up and he shouldn’t. That is crazy!

By journalist jimmy smith

May 9, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

mr. knockahomer, journalist did not ignore or mis-spell noted catcher’s first name … perhaps journalist could blame a copy writer, but in review … here is what journalist wrote: “(giles) is not doing the job at leadoff and renteria’s ability to put the ball in play and move the runner is being wasted. mccann is special. his daddy taught him to hit and to be an unselfish player. no one is on base for him. think how many rbi’s he’d have if there were runners on base for him!” maybe knockahomer got journalist jimmy smith’s post confused with another journalist. have a pleasant day. your friend. journalist jimmy smith.

By Ron Roberts

May 9, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Forgive me in advance…. but

STOP WITH THE “CAN WE CALL UP JURRIES” CRAP, PEOPLE!!!

Dig a little deep and see what his stats are in Richmond, RIGHT NOW.

.235 AVG 1 HR 2 RBI 16 Ks in 51 ABs.

Sorry. Now, ESPN’s reporting that the Mets and Glavine have deferred like over $5 million of his 2006 salary to another season. Sounds like they’re making room for a major acquisition, and since they need something in their rotation, I’m thinking it’s somebody “Zito-like,” if not Zito himself.

I said this the other day, and believe it to be true… the next 10 games for the Braves will tell the story. If we get the Mets lead down to 4 or 5 games after this 10-game stretch, we’ll be alright. If not, hang ‘em up. We go up against the Marlins (3), Nationals (3) and come home for the Marlins, again (4). We gotta go 7-3 or 8-2 while the Mets deal with a tough Phillies squad (3), the resurgent Brew Crew (3) and the Cardinals (3). A 4-5 or 3-6 tally by them would be nice, and until they make a move (if they do) to bolster their sagging rotation, they’re very vulnerable at an inopportune moment. These next 10 days should sort out whether Atlanta can compete this year or not.

That being said, doesn’t it just suck to know that our team is in an ownership situation (and in flux, at that) where we couldn’t be in play for a Barry Zito if the A’s were willing to dangle him out there as trade bait. Nah, the folks at Time Warner will just let the Mets keep snatching up available talent while we hope Richmond provides us more heroes.

By Todd

May 9, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Here’s a fantasy for you: We have a new owner in place by the trade deadline who decides he wants to make a splash, so he trades for Zito, and we end up finding our closer lurking in our current roster (Paronto? Villareal? Heck, Chuck James? It worked for the ChiSox and Baltimore). Zito is so happy to be with his old buddy Hudson that he signs a long-term deal to be our #3 - giving us Smoltz, Hudson, and Zito as our 1-2-3 for a few years.

A guy can dream, right?

By David O'Brien

May 9, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Dave Knockahomer, if my last blog before the road trip is still posted (I don’t think it is), you’d see what I said about McCann. Just because I didn’t mention him in my positive, off the top of my head yesterday, shouldn’t be taken as any intented slight, because it certainly wasn’t meant as one.

As I’ve said before, he’s the one among the young guys that I had least concern about entering the season, and I said it then. Because of his professional attitude and his outstanding approach at the plate, his swing, his setup, his clear talent _ he’s the guy, more than Francoeur or Langerhans or any of the others, that I had the least concern about coming into the season.

He’s outstanding, which is also why I said several times during the hysteria over Saltalamacchia (again, wish you could look up the blogs then), that the Braves already had an oustanding young catcher in McCann and that he was too good to move. Which is why they were and have considered other possible routes for Salty to get to majors when he’s ready, though they’re not in a hurry to switch him either, because Salty’s a switch-hitting slugger who is quite valuable either as a future Brave or potential trade piece (don’t EVEN START telling me how he can’t be traded; I’m not saying they’ve discussed trading him, I’m merely saying he’d be extremely valuable in whatever capacity they choose to use him, being a switch-hitting catcher and all).

Anyway, my point is, McCann is an outstanding all-around catcher, maybe the best young one in the majors right now, for all-around ability and makeup, etc.

By TennesseePaul

May 9, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

dylan: Actually that wide stance of Andruw did bring him to the show. That was the stance he used in the minors (I remember watching him use it in the minors). When he first came up and hit those homers in NY in the WS he was using that stance. Over the years he kept standing up more and more until finally he got into a LaRoche-esque stance and struck out 150 times a season. Willy Mays told him to go back to his old stance (this is who Andruw credits with the change), and finally he did and he hit 51 homers. As long as he sticks with this stance, he’ll do fine.

I just wish LaRoche paid attention to that progression. LaRoche doesn’t need to spread out, but he does need to get rid of that extra step in his swing. He stands in the back corner of the box, the pitcher comes set, winds up, and LaRoche steps up to the plate. The pitch is thrown and LaRoche moves his hands back, his hips out, his head down and then swings. No wonder he strikes out so much. He needs to just set up in the swing position and quit moving his head all over the place. But he won’t. He was quoted earlier this year as saying he can’t remember previous at bats, so how would he ever remember from at-bat to at-bat that he’s got a terrible approach. I’d love to see what that guy could do if he was on his Meds. He’d probably be great, but we’ll never know…

By Blake

May 9, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Tennessee Paul,

There is no point in breaking down LaSuck’s swing. Where do you even begin? I don’t mind a guy hitting .200, if he is being semiproductive. LaSuck never takes the game situation into account. He doesnt seem to even think about just making contact and moving a guy over. HE never changes his approach regardless of the count. Pitiful. Pitiful. Pitiful.

By Jim

May 9, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

What is the injury status of: HoRam Devine Boyer Cormier?

By GM R

May 9, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

I couldn’t agree more about Reitsma - I have never felt comfortable with him as closer. Even when the stats would imply he is pitching well there are a lot of balls caught deep. Bottom line- his fastball is not overpowering and any location problems get punished. What really concerns me is that we won’t see any new talent until the team is sold - there is no incentive for TW to spend money while there are active buyers out there. Let’s be honest, if they really wanted the Braves to win this year they would have given JS dollars to fill in for Hampton plus get a legit closer.

By SR

May 9, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

Sorry, not buying it at all with this team and here’s why:

1) I feel sorry for Cox, look at the horror he has posing as a bullpen. Who is he going to call on in key games down the stretch, assuming there are any? Reeksma? McBride? James? Remlinger? Not no time, not no way.

2) Hudson cannot be counted on for consistency from game to game. What you have seen since he got to Atlanta is what you are gonna get. Anyone remember his Jekyll and Hyde performance in the playoffs last season? Exactly.

3) Pathetic excuse for a bench. Can anyone tell me (DOB are you there?) what Pete Orr is still doing on this team? Or Todd Pratt for that matter? Is there a weaker bench in baseball?

4) No reliable 5th starter. Sosa has lost whatever magic he ever had. Bye bye. Horacio Ramirez is another inconsistent starter. Plugging him into the 5th slot is essentially putting a left handed Sosa in that same role.

5)No leadoff hitter, STILL no leadoff hitter. While I do think Giles will produce better,(after all, he always has) he is gonna have to produce a helluva lot better to make up for his sorry start and to begin to give the team some spark from the leadoff position.

By Michael

May 9, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Bob Horner: I love your moving Chipper to first base idea. I’ve been thinking the same thing for some time now…before the season started actually. I still believe Laroche can get it done, but Betemit deserves playing time. And we know he can get it done. Moving Chipper to first will reduce injury chances and improve the team. Can anybody tell me and Bob Horner why this idea might not work?

By Da Braves

May 9, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Laroche is terrible. When will he be replaced? Every time he gets to the plate I can count on him to strikeout or ground into a double play, and when he does get a hit it is during a meaningless point in the game. Surely, we can find a better 1B than Laroche because he is one of the worst players in all of baseball.

There isn’t anyone in baseball - including pitchers - that look more out of place in the batters box than Laroche. What is his deal? Step up to the plate and hit the ball - he’s all positioned in the farthest corner of the box from the plate - quit being such a wimp. He is by far the worst player on the team and for some reason the Braves never want to address 1B. Dump Laroche!

By Ron Roberts

May 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

I gotta disagree with ya, just a little, SR, but only slightly.

I think there are viable options in the bullpen, and I think we’re all learning about them as the season progresses, just as Cox is. Oscar Villareal, Chuck James, Ken Ray, Pete Moylan, heck even Remlinger (with enough rest) are all viable arms out the bullpen. When Cormier comes back, he only strengthens that lineup. Reitsma’s the concern; has been, and will be until Schuerholz addresses it - and soon, I hope. I won’t pander to the level of name-calling, moniker-defacing, etc. that a lot of folks get to here, but Reitsma, to say the least, doesn’t intimdate anybody as a closer. I’d like to see what Moylan could do in that role, myself. Then with McBride, Boyer and Devine all as potentials later in the year or coming off DL, I think there’ll be a lot of flexibility to move somebody, oh, say, Sosa? Dump him, put Chuck James in the 5th spot, and let’s roll with Smoltz, Hudson, Thomson, Davis and James.

I also have to disagree with ya when it comes to Huddy. I think Hudson’s turned a corner now, and see him locked in for a great run, now. My concerns are as follows…

1. Was Thomson’s last start an anomaly, or the quality pitching we got before then? Let’s hope the last start was just a bad night…hey, all players have ‘em.

2. Why’d we throw Smoltz out there on short rest if we’re not putting too much stock in an early May game? I’d like his arm fresh in September and October - call it a hunch, but if we’re gonna be in this thing, it’s gonna be a down-to-the-wire run in those last two months.

3. Watching the Mets free up $5 million by deferring Glavine’s money a year makes me wonder if they’re not readying for a run at a Zito-like addition. Their ownership is committed to winning; ours is committed to swapping the franchise for stock and tax-exemption.

Like I said before, the next ten days should tell the story for this season. Ten games against the Marlins (7) and Nationals (3) give us a chance (hopefully) fatten up on the weak teams, as the Mets had done so much early on, while they have to go play the Phillies, Brewers and Cardinals. We need to gain 3-4 games on ‘em in this stretch, or I think we’ll have to look at the wild card as our best, most viable option.

Heck, even then, with the Astros, Reds and Cardinals - that’ll be no sure thing, either.

By B.J.

May 9, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

A typical LaRoche at bat:

First Pitch: Fastball down the middle, taken for strike one (unless C.B. Buckner is behind the plate, then it’s a 50-50 chance it will be called a ball)

Second Pitch: “Get over” hanging slow curve, taken for another called strike two (unless Angel Hernandez is behind the plate—he can only call fastballs correctly behind the plate)

Third Pitch: Curveball or changeup down and in, into the dirt…SWUNG ON AND MISSED for strike three.

It’s just a travesty that he’s allowed to do this in the FIFTH spot in the batting order.

By Da Braves

May 9, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

B.J.

You are dead on with Laroche. He can’t hit and it’s not like he has ever proven he can be counted on to produce either. The absolute best you can hope for out of Laroche is a batting average around .260 (that’s if they bench him when lefties are on the mound and substantially less if the Braves continue to keep him in the lineup when a lefty is on the mound), 15-20 HR’s and a ton of strikeouts, and he will never be an every day player…ever.

1B is probably the easiest position to play in baseball, just about anyone can be converted into a first baseman. Old man Brian Jordan proved he could do it during one offseason. Bring up Salty from the minors and put him on 1B because no matter how young and inexperienced he is he can’t do worse than Laroche is doing now. Laroche is past due for a pink slip.

By Chop Chop

May 9, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this

The funny thing about everyone ripping LaRoche is that the guy actually has 18 walks this year. He’s also leading the team in strikeouts (32 of them, which is insane for 95 at-bats), but his on-base percentage is .327. That’s actually higher than Wilson Betemit’s .324. LaRoche has had slow starts in each of his first three seasons. He’ll start hitting, folks. He’s never going to be a top producer at first base, but he’ll get his numbers up to a respectable level soon enough. As I’ve said before, his poor performance is magnified by the Braves’ poor start. As for the other Braves hitters who have struggled, Francoeur has finally started to hit the ball better and I assume that he’ll be getting his first walk (maybe even two of them) in the next couple of games. Giles is long overdue to break out of his slump, as is Langerhans. Whether that means a bunch of wins or not, I have no idea. I just know that playing some less-talented teams ought to help the guys get turned around. Right now, the most important thing is get back above .500 and go from there.

By GEORGE W

May 9, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

ANDRUW JONES is by far the best centerfielder in the game, runner up for MVP last year, Hitting for a higher average right now than he did last year, has more passion to be a brave and play the game everyday than anyone on the team, has more HR & RBI than anyone on the team, ETC ETC. So why in the world would anyone be talking about trading him and he is overrated. WHATEVER!!! Now the bullpen has one bright spot that does not get alot of attention and that is KEN RAY. This guy has been the Brian McCann - Renteria of the bullpen this year. We need to try and make a move for another solid arm in the bullpen or make a move for another starter before the juiced up Mets buy another one to try and bury us. I do agree with the lineup change and all except for Langerhans leading off. This guy makes Giles look like Ichiro. I definitely think Laroche should hit 7th and move McCann up to protect Andruw. Thank DOB another good blog.

By SR

May 9, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

Hey Ron

No sweat man, I don’t mind a little good faith disagreement, after all, we all want the same thing, a championship team. I wish I had the same faith in Huddy that you do but I just don’t think he’s the same pitcher he used to be, notwithstanding his recent gem. Although I am a native Atlantan, have lived out in the SF Bay Area for many years so have seen lots of his games over the years. I think his muscle strain may have changed his mechanics. His hits to inning pitched ratio, BAA and era have all risen over the last threes seasons, the last one out here and the two in Atlanta. Hey, I would love to be proven wrong and will eat crow if that happens but I am just leery of Huddy at this point.

The same can be said of the pen. Though there have been a few positive moments, (too few in my opinion) I just don’t have faith in these guys when the game is on the line. The performance of the pen in those come from ahead losses to the Mets epitomized the problems for me- no one could stop the bleeding, from McBride, to Ray to Reitsma. Villareal and Cormier have had some good moments but again, they have allowed inherited runners to score and as you know, that never shows up in the ERA. As for some of the others, if one of them can develop into a good closer, well, that’s fine with me. I will be pleasantly surprised. Suffice to say though, something has to be done.

Let’s hope we see some improvement over the course of the next few weeks because there are a lot of improved teams in the NL this year. Should make for an interesting summer.

By 2Parc

May 9, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this

The Braves will not sign a big name this year, or trade for one. There is no money. In trades, you still have to pay the player.

Chipper will not move to first or from the third spot in the lineup.

Giles will be in the lineup batting leadoff all year barring injury.

LaRoche will be in the lineup against righthanders all year. Deal with it.

Reitsma does not need to go to the setup role. If he blows leads now, then all he will do is just blow leads sooner in the game. He needs to be traded, but probably won’t be… again, no money.

The Braves will be sold as a department in a major company, which is what they are now. Liberty will think even less of this department, as they are not local (Colorado), which means a decrease in payroll.

The only suggestions I’ve read that are actually doable are the lineup changes. Moving the guys around may help.

Although my apocalyptic comments may concern some of you, I truly believe Bobby Cox and the boys can make this a tight race, and win number 15.

By bobby

May 9, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

The Braves may have come from 10 games back before but there is one big difference between them and this year’s team. They had good players then, not a bunch of pretenders. Also the Mets were not very good then.

By Matthew

May 9, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Lord have mercy, let’s just start rooting for the Yankees. Some of you are so pessimistic it reminds me of all the pinheads who for the last ten years have said, “This is the year the Braves’ run ends.” Have the Braves not earned the benefit of the doubt? Until I see the Mutts actually lift the division banner I won’t buy into it. Yes they’re good-they also have an inflated record against sub-par teams. They are one game over .500 against the Braves, so relax. JS will make some sort of deal that does the most with what he has, and it will help us get into the playoffs. Once we have a new owner and know what the limits are, then we can bring up the younger players and trade for a few more good ones. Don’t panic until it’s over.

I believe in the Braves!

By Mark

May 9, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Don’t we hear this every year? Holes in the bullpen, sluggish offense, etc. Blah blah blah blah. And what happens? We win. It’ll end, but every year so far has seen a bunch of folks saying it’s over, and here’s why. But we win again.

By Ron Roberts

May 9, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Mark, but the difference this year is we’re facing a talented team within our division in a season we aren’t at least “as good” on paper as they are.

By hk

May 9, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

… right on 2Parc …

… think it’s better than fifty-fifty Liberty will increase payroll, though … reason: sound business decision, if it means keeping Bobby and John ..

By Matthew

May 9, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

hk:

i hope you’re right, and I hope it happens soon enough for us to possibly get Willis and/or Zito. I like Dontrelle because he is a classy kid who respects the game, plus as a lefty he is a killer. Further, he handles the bat very well. I think he’d grow into a superstar under the tutledge of John Smoltz. Even if we had to give up, for example, Laroche, Giles (or a middle infieled prospect) and Kelly Johnson for Willis and a relief pitching prospect, I think it would be worth it, even though I really like the way Giles plays.

I’m just ready for something exciting to happen that will charge this club up. Maybe Bobby getting ejected was a start. I can’t wait to see what happens tonight, though I’ll have to wait for ESPNNEWS since I don’t get Fox South (all I get is stupid Rangers and Astros games on FS-SW).

GO BRAVES!

By Erratic Hater

May 9, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

A few things:

Chipper ain’t going to 1B, so get over it. DOB has done his best to explain why above, but many of you are semi-literate and only know as much about baseball as you possibly can learn while waiting for the college football preseason to begin—hey, Auburn’s QB is going to Tech, go flame about that!

The only reason Billy Wagner has more blown saves than Reitsma is because the Mets have given him more save opportunities by being ahead late in games. If Reitsma gets 50 opportunities this year (thankfully, I don’t think he will), he will blow 25 or more.

Dontrelle Willis, Barry Zito, etc. ain’t coming here, regardless of what talent we part with, because there’s no room on the payroll, and after Time Warner’s despicable pocketing of Chipper’s altruism I wouldn’t expect Andruw or Smoltzie to be willing to defer any $$.

Continuing the streak AND keeping the Mets from the division title would be sweet, but we’ve been in dire need of a retooling season for several years. Might as well make it now while the kids are still young enough to learn.

Start Brian Jordan at first base for as many consecutive games as his body can take, maybe LaCucaRocheA will take notice…maybe. Can anyone on the team provide him with tapes of his previous ABs, since he admittedly can’t remember them?

Rico Brogna, Wally Joyner, Robert Fick, Matt Franco, Ken Caminiti, Bobby Bonilla, etc…the retread experiments ain’t working, and neither is Adam, unless we bury him at eighth in the lineup, where an easy out is somewhat expected. Call up Thorman NOW.

By Tony

May 9, 2006 06:22 PM | Link to this

“When Andruw was going through some of his extended slumps a couple years back didn’t Bobby move him down to the 6 or 7 spot in the order?”

Yes he sure did. I don’t know what the issue is now. Maybe moving LaDouche down will take some pressure off of him. He is such a pain to watch due to his emotionless style of play. How can you be that slow? Amazing. No urgency at all…