Braves

By strike

April 26, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

This is about as bad as I’ve ever seen the Braves struggle. It’s like they went in there today assuming a loss. They didn’t have their heads in the game and it really cost them. Maybe the offday back in A-town will get their heads back on straight.

By Rob

April 26, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

blah blah blah…..The Mets coming to town is EXACTLY what the Braves need to get them going. 2 out of 3 from the 7-trainers and on the way to the 15th. Yeah it’s was terrible to be swept, but again, it’s Apr 26th!

By RS

April 26, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

The Braves need a resolution on their sale ASAP. Time Warner isn’t helping them out. Media Group won’t help them either. Local ownership is the answer. If Arthur Blank is still interested in buying the Braves, I hope he bids high enough. Who sits in the owners’ box now? I am sending out a big “HELP” to Arthur Blank. Without a single ownership, I’m afraid the Braves won’t get a fair shake.

By Rutuger

April 26, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

The starting pitching is so blotchy, inconsistent as hell. It’s no secret that our bullpen is the NL’s (and maybe MLB’s) worst. We now lead the league in strikeouts—offensively, that is. We are largely a team of young guys, so the alarming Ks are to be expected, but as for the bullpen, there’s just no chance of success with that bunch. When Chris Reitsma is your closer, you aren’t serious about competing for anything, even the division.

Swept by the lowly (although improved for 2006) Brewers. This is rough. The bats will come back around eventually and we will have some wins, but the bullpen will once again be our undoing, and will be forever unless we make a serious move next offseason. YOU WILL NOT WIN GAMES WITH MINOR LEAGUE, WASHED-UP, and NEVER-WERE players in your pen.

I owe a ginormous apology to Kyle Davies for the berating I gave him on this blog last week. He really stepped up after that. Sosa, however, isn’t a Major League pitcher and needs to go far, far away. Far. Now.

By mark

April 26, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

We are 3-7 in one run games , 7-10 in two run games. We dont, never have and never will play small ball. 0 bunts for a hit , 0 squeeze plays , 0 hit and runs , 0 double steals , well you get the idea. 8 stolen bases for the entire team , just apethetic. I’m gonna stay drunk till June , somebody shoot me ….. please , lol .

By MGL

April 26, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

It wan’t mediocre pitching, sloppy defense, or weak offense that lost this series. It was all of the above, all at once. This has to be the weakest effort I have seen from the Braves in some time. The only player that got the job done today was Brian M. Everyone has to pitch in and start playing quality baseball - this is embarrassing, and I’m sure it is to the team also. I hope someone calls a clubhouse meeting, whether Bobby or one of our important veteran leaders. They better get the cobwebs out and start playing as a team with some energy, enthusiasm, and using the skills that they have.

All this talk about substituting players in the line-up is not the answer. For example, all the cries for Betimit to be in the line-up - well, he hit for less than .100 (1 for 11) in this series. These guys just need to get their heads in the game and play like the highly paid atheletes that they are. And yes, I consider the rookies highly paid at $350,000 per year.

By Brian

April 26, 2006 04:39 PM | Link to this

The chemistry is not there for the Braves this year either. Something is lacking besides simply contact with the baseball.

They do need help in the bullpen otherwise the starters will be overused and fade down the stretch. We definitely need another OF bat. Renteria will help in that he is a contact hitter. We do not have a bunch of 40 home run hitters, so we need to do more of the small stuff. Hit and run, sacrifices, moving the runner from 2nd to 3rd with a groundout to the right side of the IF. We need to manufacture runs because they sure aren’t coming easily

By Scooter

April 26, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

The pitching wasn’t really the problem today or even yesterday. And it certainly wasn’t Reitsma’s fault. The offense was bad and the defense was terrible. Now we get Martinez and Glavine back to back. I do look forward to the Smoltz-Martinez matchup though. Should be a good one.

By RS

April 26, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this

If you remember correctly, the Braves ended the 2005 season in trouble in their bullpen, and with bad pitchers. No wonder “Rocky” left the Braves. He got NO support from Time Warner. I’m sure he was really frustrated over trying to develop a pitching staff that couldn’t be developed. So now the Braves have started the new season in worse shape than they were last season. Braves pitchers can’t pitch, Braves hitters can’t hit, and Braves fielders can’t field. So, what’s left? Either the Braves organization needs to be shaken up, or we need GOOD new ownership, to boost morale.

By Fundamentals

April 26, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

The Braves are losing, in part, due to lack of playing fundamental baseball. In Monday’s game, Pratt threw the ball to 2B on a double steal after the #7 hitter struck out allowing the runner on 3rd to steal home and tie the game. If he was aware of the situation, he had the #8 hitter coming up with an open base and 2 outs, yet he allowed the Brewers to (literally) steal a run and the Braves lost by that same margin.

Then, yesterday, Hudson pays no attention to Lee, who steals 2nd, such that a single only is needed to score him. Before, with a runner on 1st, I doubt Fielder punches the ball to left. However, with only a single needed, Fielder did play fundamental baseball and the Brewers scored the go-ahead run. While they lost by 2, once again, failure to follow basics (like paying attention to a runner) lessened their chance to win.

I don’t like how the Braves are playing right now. They don’t advance the runners, don’t take a walk when given and they give their opponents too many runs. First four runs today were unearned - spoiling the rarity of a good outing by Sosa.

I know it is early, but I just don’t have a good feeling about this team right now. They seem to be lackadasical - almost as if they think they’re going to win the division regardless of how they play and forgetting that the Mets aren’t just going to give them the division.

And playing .667 against the Mets is nice, but if they don’t play better than .400 against the rest of the NL, it won’t matter.

As for Frenchy, he should be forced to take strike 1 and should be fined for swinging at any pitch until he has taken strike 1. He needs to understand that he’ll get better pitches to hit from hitter’s counts rather than 0-2 and 1-2. He also needs to be moved to 7th or 8th. He’s a black hole in the line-up (regardless of the triple today) and is killing too many rallies. I’m not one for sending him down right now, but if he gets into mid-May while still swinging at 55+% of all pitches and no walks, he needs to go to the minors to learn that simple because a ball was sent in his general direction by a pitcher, he is not required to swing at it.

By TennesseePaul

April 26, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

The bullpen is really not to blame for this. Remmer has been solid, Cormier solid, Villarreal OK, Reitsma only has one blown save. But to top all that off, they had a good week of no usage when Smoltz, Hudson and Davies turned it up. The starters need to keep it turned up. Give us a fighting chance.

It’s the offense which is to blame. In it’s defense, it was missing Giles, Renteria and Chipper for most of that trip. Hopefully getting all three back in there and healthy will turn it a round. But something must be done about the LaRoche/Francoeur tandem in the middle of the order. Francoeur is a sure out. Why pitch to anyone if he is coming up in that inning? Francoeur needs to be benched or dropped in the order. Or cained. Something. I’m not going to let a triple fool me. I let those three homers in two days fool me, but he promptly went back out there a started stinking the place up again.
Though I am happy to see McCann hitting like he belongs. I hope he keeps doing so.

By journalist jimmy smith

April 26, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

journalist is sad. braves have many needs. word in milwaukee is that ned yost is now bobby cox’ daddy. dan kolb throws nine pitches, seven strikes- retires side. yesterday, capellan has perfect inning. sheets is strike out machine - so is laroche in his own way. what is bobby’s fascination with pete orr? pinch hitter hitting .194. where is mighty bat of brian jordan?

By JMDawg

April 26, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

Things are never as bad as they seem. I’m as disappointed as anyone else about a 9-12 start, but you have to remember that we’ve played only six of our first 21 games at home, and in the past couple of weeks we’ve been very beat up and have run into the likes of Pedro Martinez, Tom Glavine, John Patterson, Chris Capuano and Ben Sheets which would explain the offensive struggles.

The schedule just hasn’t been our friend so far. But it’ll even out. We just have to hope we’re within reach of .500 by the time it does. It looks bleak, but I’ve seen bleaker. It was bleaker in ‘91 when we were 9.5 out at the All-Star break. It was bleaker in ‘92 when we started out 20-27. It was bleaker in ‘93 when we were 10 out in early August. Heck, it was bleaker in ‘95 when we were five out in June. We know how that season ended. It was bleaker in 2001 when we were 27-26 and eight back of the Phillies…I could go on and on.

Hang in there, guys. This is just one of those inevitable storms over a 162 game season we have to weather.

By Bob

April 26, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Doggone … caught again … I’ll never learn … why do I keep putting my very best posts at the end of a Blog … it ain’t like I’m ashamed of them and don’t want people to see them.

Well, one thing’s for sure, the Brewers didn’t win this one the “old Fashioned” way!

By 3Pitch

April 26, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

This team is not configured correctly. Does anyone think it is amazing that Francouer hit better in Atlanta in ‘05 than he did in AA? He was playing over his head last year, and this year he is coming back down to earth. Obviously, He could have used a little more time in the minors.

Furcal: This team is missing Furcal’s on-base presence which produced more fastballs to hit for Giles, Chipper and Andruw. Renteria is amazing while hitting in the clutch, but Furcal’s defensive range and on-base speed were assets the Braves no longer have. To replace Furcal’s team presense, they should have acquired another quality offensive player in the off-season. Renteria is not enough.

The closer situation is still unsettled with the Braves in a position once again to be a league leader in blown saves. The trade of Marte would have been better if a top closer candidate had come to Atlanta in exchange. Now that the Marte “chip” has been cashed, what does JS do?

By Ben Sutton

April 26, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Some of you bloggers are hilarious. Mark.. going by your stats “3-7 in one run games, 7-10 in 2 run games” we have only played 21 games genius. The Braves will be fine. There are 141 games remaining in the regular season. We have a home stretch coming up. If we have a losing record during that, then we have a problem. If not, join the ESPN blog and ride off the Braves (like many of you are) like the so-called “experts” do every year on that network. The Braves will be fine.

By MGL

April 26, 2006 05:04 PM | Link to this

I wish some of you would get over the closer problem. Right now, that is the last problem that needs to be addressed. 1 blown save by the closer in the first 21 games. When we can figure out how to get to the ninth inning with a lead, the closer might be important.

By geauxbraves2000

April 26, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

I agree with 3Pitch about Furcal. As Furcal went so did the Braves. It is very obvious the difference in arm strength and range. Not that Renteria is a liability, but the Braves are going to miss Furcal this year more than they will admit to. What can you do, these days loyalty for the most part is gone, it’s ALL about the money.

By journalist jimmy smith

April 26, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

bob, journalist jimmy smith went back to read your post on the other blog … what is this mention of boogers in the dugout? journalist was very surprised. what is bobby cox to do? maybe he can pull one out in home series. maybe he will pick a better line-up. perhaps he will dig out a new glove for chipper at third base. conceivably he could change the order and work around the slumps. bobby is pretty predictable right now - as are the results. is this unlike the playoffs?

By Miles

April 26, 2006 05:08 PM | Link to this

3Pitch, prior to 2005 Furcal was one of the WORST lead-off hitters in the game in terms of OBP. Considering Cox never took full advantage of Furcal’s speed, he wont be missed much from an offensive standpoint.

I dont understand how the pitching can be blamed, ever since the mets series its been back in good form. Whats killing us is the defensive play by some of our infielders and sloppy coverage of the opposing baserunners. Basic defensive fundamentals have always been the greatest strength of past Braves teams so these last few games have been fairly uncharacteristic.

The lack of clutch hitting with RISP is also killing us. It doesnt help that we have a giant black hole in the 5th and 6th spots of the lineup with LaRoche and Francoeur.

Also keep in mind that the Braves have had one of the hardest shcedules so far with 70% of the games being played on the road. The team has a big series against the mets this weekend than a short 2 game series against the rockies, all 5 games are in atlanta. So if they can go 4-1 I will be happy.

By Brandon

April 26, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

Hey everyone! Just a Brew Crew fan from WI who was checking out the pity page…errr…I mean your website the past couple days. Keep your chin up, you are still the Atlanta Braves. Come on though, don’t you think it is time for someone to finally take over for a bit in your division? Isn’t it true sometimes you don’t even get full sell-out crowds for playoff games anymore? We Brewers fans would kill for one tenth of your success over the past 12-13 years. How about this: we will make it up to you and sweep the Mets in 3 short weeks? Good luck!

By MBATL

April 26, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

Biggest issue is health of veteran players. If Chipper, Renteria, Smoltz, Hudson, Giles stay healthy for most of the year, I think the Braves will be fine. Those are 5 very good baseball players (and of course assuming AJ is in the lineup). But if we end up with an infield of Betemit, Orr and Prado… well, that’s just not a big league lineup.

And we do need a closer. I like Reitsma - for middle relief - but he can’t seem to “shut the door” like is needed. Hasn’t been a real big issue so far, but it will be if we get into a pennant race.

Braves hit incredibly the first 10 games or so, but couldn’t pitch. Total opposite the last 10 games. Somewhere in the middle lies reality over a long season. Defense hurt us today, but that’s going to be a rare thing, I think.

With what LA paid for Furcal, hope they’re happy and God Bless (I think he’s hitting about .200… I’m sure we’d be happy with that!).

By brewerfaninATL

April 26, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

WOW! I don’t know what to say, I mean we looked like complete cr@p against the Reds last weekend and I did NOT expect this! Yes, I know my Brewers are much improved but this was a complete 180. That said, I am NOT going to rub the Braves’ noses in it because you will get your stuff together, probably vs. the Mets, but one thing I noticed all series long was how dead you guys looked out there. It almost seemed like you were just going through the motions and expecting to come away with the series win, if not sweep. I know you guys have owned us in Milwaukee in the past and maybe you were looking ahead to the Mets, but you just can NOT do that and expect to win games like that, especially against a much improved and hungry, young team like the Brewers. You DID show some attitude in the 9th today (maybe Turnbow was burned out, maybe not) and maybe that will spark you in the series vs. the Mets, I sure hope so, but I don’t know. This did NOT look like a Braves team I have come to expect from the past 15 years, and dare I to say that I almost felt sorry for you guys, you looked that lifeless out there! I hope we can keep it going against the Cubs (they’re our biggest rivals) and I hope you can get it clicking vs. the Mets (they’re YOUR biggest rivals). Anyway, good luck and we’ll meet again in Atlanta in August!

By Rob

April 26, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

3Pitch, maybe when Liberty finally takes over, they could hire you to correctly configure the team. God knows JS needs help putting together his 15th in a row. What a terrible track record he has. No offense 3pitch but JS knows just a tad bit more than you about putting together a team.

By MBATL

April 26, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

BrewerfaninAtl, Brandon: Braves have been accused of being “lethargic” since about ‘99, but keep winning (divisions, anyway). Your team looks really good, and it must be fun to have hope of winning. If we don’t win the div, I’d much rather see the Brewers than the Mets or Phils.

But, just like I’d tell Braves fans, who are p**ssed at the moment; it’s early.

By Bob

April 26, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

mark,

I know I indicated in my post on the last blog that numbers really isn’t my game, I don’t even like the TV show much, but how many games have we played?

Before you get too drunk, explain it to me.

I haven’t kept close track and it does seem like there’s been a bunch of close games … but, Goodness son, that sure does seem like a lot of games!

I remember maybe 4-5 games where the difference was more than 2 and … when I add those to your 10 one run affairs and 17 2 run jobs … man, that’s at least 31 games!!

DOB, I’m having fun so far, but Mark’s got me worried that I’ve missed at least 10 games. At that rate, the season will be over before I get to the All Star Break!

By Voice of Reason

April 26, 2006 05:32 PM | Link to this

As much as I’ve blogged regarding the closer, MGL’s right. That’s the least of our problems right now. Closer only matters if you’re leading late; the Braves are not. When we were scoring 6 runs a game, we were giving up 7. Now we’re giving up 4 and scoring 3. Man, this game’ll make you pull your hair out!

By Ross

April 26, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

C’mon Braves faithful - keep the faith. The season is still very young, you’ve had some of your better players on the DL and your team was just swept by the Brewers (for the first time ever!) - not the disgrace it used to be. Milwaukee has a good club this year. Be happy the Braves aren’t in the toughest division in baseball: the National League Central. My guess is that come October, the Braves will be rightin the thick of the division race…AGAIN! Hang in there, and don’t feel bad about losing to the Brewers anymore. Ross Milwaukee

By Chop Chop

April 26, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

LaRoche, Francoeur, Langerhans and Betemit have struck out 77 times in less than 300 at-bats so far.

Ouch.

I seriously doubt that strikeout rate will continue all year, but if it doesn’t improve by a lot, the Braves will be golfing come playoff time.

By Mark

April 26, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Sutton , you are an absolute IDIOT ! Stats dont lie , they tell the truth , you know nothing about baseball.

By MBATL

April 26, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

Brewer Fans: sorry, got my divisions mixed up. Too bad for you, cause to beat the Astros, Cards, Cubs, Reds, you BETTER win a lot of games early. Things change quickly, but that is the best division in BB, right now.

By ernesto

April 26, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Pathetic. Just pathetic.

By Mark

April 26, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Bob , some of the stats cover the same game , its an example of what goes wrong when a team fails to play fundamental baseball.

By Jason

April 26, 2006 05:47 PM | Link to this

Missing Furcal? The guy’s hitting .202. He’s right down there with Frenchy.

By ernesto

April 26, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

I would take Frenchy striking out looking for the rest of the year, than see him flail at that horsesh-t pitch in the other batter’s box one more time. Good God! If they only did that to him every once in awhile, maybe it’d be excusable, but what is it 8 or 9 times out of 10…it ain’t a new haircut Frenchy needs, it’s a bat that’s 20 inches longer.

By TennesseePaul

April 26, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this

Renteria is doing better on the DL than Furcal is out in the field this year with the Dodgers. Furcal’s range is hard to match. I can’t think of any other shortstop with that kind of range and arm. But, unless you forgot, Furcal used to average 25 errors a season. He was super great last year, but it was also his walk year. He has never been as good offensively as Renteria. Last year was Edgars worst year. Edgar hit .274 with 30 errors. That’s a 1% difference in batting average and five more errors than Furcal’s average. So even in Edgar’s down year, he was still as good as Furcal.
Granted, Furcal is fast. But Furcal never had much of an OBP. Edgar, on the other hand, is a master in clutch situations, which Furcal was not. (Which we’ve been lacking these past few days since he has been out).
The trade for Edgar was great. We traded a minor leaguer and got an All-Star, silver slugging, gold glove shortstop AND cash. We have Edgar for half the cost of Furcal! And Edgar is a better clutch hitter and all around hitter than Furcal. So yes, we don’t have a guy stealing a base, instead he have a guy who hits .300 with runners in scoring position.

Once Edgar gets back in there, this team will come together. Giles will start picking it up as well. I have faith in that guy. Plus, with Renteria, Chipper and Andruw behind him, he’s bound to get some pitches to hit. The issue is with the 5 and 6 spots in the line up. LaRoche and Francoeur seem to be competing with each other in the strikeout column. It’s a massive hole.
Those two have to get their act together. Francoeur’s batting average will be weak this year. It’ll be near impossible for him to pull it up. He was a .270+ hitter in the minors. If he’d do that with 30 homers, we’d be fine. All we’d have to worry about is where to put that next flag.

The pitching has certainly not been the problem. Sosa was the weakest link, and he actually made it into the 6th today. I’d like to see him make it into the 7th or 8th, but I guess he hs to baby step it.

Let’s go Braves! We gotta kick the sh!t outa the Mets this weekend.

Live it up Brewer fans. Still a long way to go, and the Cardinals are still in your division. If you’re tired of the same ol’ same ol’, try and take them out.

By Dr. Jay

April 26, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Jeezus…a Brewers fan giving us condescending hell in our own blog after being swept in Wisconsin… This has to be a bad dream…

By doc

April 26, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

coming out of camp i queried the effects of being on the road so much in the first 30 or so games. unfortunately, it only gets worse; schedulers have the braves in town only 17 of first 50 games. that can only serve to make the going rough to right the ship. maybe this team will go lights out the way the astros did after their first 50 last year. staying 500 should be the goal over these early road games. if we are near that we will do okay over the last two thirds of the season but it will be trying.

By brewerfaninATL

April 26, 2006 05:53 PM | Link to this

MBATL: Yeah, boy, this is a tough division! At the end though, I still think the Cards are team to beat. I just don’t see the Reds being there all season long, I mean there are 4 other guys pitching besides Arroyo. The Cubs are the Cubs and Wood and Prior are going to be missed. Houston I don’t really have a read on them! If Lidge doesn’t get his s—t straight, they are dead. The Pirates, well, not this year! It should be interesting, I mean if we can stay healthy we can compete…looks like it will be lots of fun! BTW, I hope you destroy the Mets!!

By MBATL

April 26, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

bfa: yeah, clearly the Cardinals are the class of the division, probably of baseball. And the problem with Houston is that they are HITTING, and I’d take Lidge in a minute even though he’s struggled a little. But I agree that maybe MIL has some of that “Braves ‘91” mojo going. Hope so!

By Blake

April 26, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this

We need to trade Lasuck for a giant turd. Pretty fair deal if you ask me.

By Bill

April 26, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this

The problem with send Frenchy down to AAA is we have no one to replace him. Kelly Johnson isn’t going to see a field any time soon, and I don’t feel good about Jordan or Jurries in the outfield every day. Craig Wilson is tearing it up for the Pirates right now — maybe that trade for him wouldn’t have been such a bad idea.

By Chop Chop

April 26, 2006 06:09 PM | Link to this

“He (Sosa) made a real mistake on 0-2 to Koskie,” Braves manager Bobby Cox said.

That’s from the AP story about the Braves’ loss today.

Yeah, Bobby. You could say that. I don’t think Sosa is going to be in the rotation much longer. Last year’s mistakes were groundouts and pop ups. This year’s mistakes (in keeping with the rest of Sosa’s career) are two-run homers.

By MBATL

April 26, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Bill, what was the trade offer/talk? Don’t remember… Thanks.

By Scott

April 26, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

The season hasn’t even been going a month and everyone is ready to jump off the 17th street bridge. Kyle Davies pitched great again. Tim Hudson pitched well just had bad luck and no offense. John Thomson has pitched well this season and Smoltz has pitched well his last two times out. The offense has been garbage because Chipper Jones and Edgar Renteria have been hurt. They are our best two hitters and they have been missing. Of course the offense is going to suffer. Marcus Giles has just returned as has Chipper and will take both some time to get back into a groove, although Chipper is already swinging the bat well, his batters eye still isn’t there yet because he was called out on strikes a couple of times already and that’s unusual for him.

THE TEAM WILL BE FINE

By GayBallFan

April 26, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

“Is the ‘Do Working?” [over-title of pic of Francoeur on ajc.com]

Well I don’t know if “the ‘do” is working for Jeff but it darned sure is “working” for me :-)

By journalist jimmy smith

April 26, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

ajc headline: “cox’s top aide resigns after flap” finally, a shakeup! this is what team needs - only journalist feels sorry for bobby dews (bobby dews is top aide, right?) now, famed bullpen coach is gone. should not have let kolb go - very impressive today against feared braves hitters. more shakeup is needed - change batting order.

By Bob

April 26, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Jimmy, be nice in front of that baby seal and quit scaring me!

Brian,

For some reason, I started to respond to you in German but am a bit too tired. I’ve sensed, on more than one occassion, a difference in the chemistry … but it wasn’t my best subject, except for the equations … and I can’t figure out what it is … might be good or bad. When you have so many different ingredients in the mix, you sometimes see a lot of different reactions before things become stable and settle in the testtube, so to speak.

With regard to what you’re suggesting they need to do … it sounds like good, exciting, old fashioned baseball to me … bring it on!!

However, I’m not sure that having starting pitchers go nine wears them out … good Starters make the best Closers so let them finish what they start … if they can … just so long as we have the Rolaids available for when they’re having trouble.

By Papa Jack

April 26, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

Am I the only fan who has seen TWO Braves teams this year. One team was the one we saw play those three games against the Mets. The other team is the one we’ve fielded all the other games.

Our claim to fame during our run has been consistancy…….. getting up for every series, and not for just selected teams.

I’m concerned about the day-to-day intensity of this year’s team .

By BallGirl

April 26, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

It all makes me laugh. Here we are in the first month of baseball and everyone is screaming. Well everyone needs to settle down.

Our pitchers are to good to continue bad performances. We started a rough schedule away from home with terrible weather. Our entire infield was on the DL. Come on, what do you expect.

Our lineup is being juggled with minor league players to fill in the holes. They will go home and our regulars will head back to their regular positions and batting orders. All will be fine.

Even with all that said, do you want to be in the players meeting after being swept by the Brewers. That in itself will take care of a lot of sloppy playing.

By Kevin

April 26, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

Yes the Braves are struggling right now but we were average as of late June last year. Once Renteria gets back and the weather heats up we should improve. A couple of lineup changes Langerhans Renteria C.Jones A.Jones Giles McCann Francouer LaRoache

Sosa goes to the pen, James would be in the rotation. Prado would be back by June and Jurries would replace Jordan by the All star break. Ramirez is the wild card, what will he give us if anything. Finding a closer is a must, do we try Remmy??Reistma is better in the 8th period. I would not be surprised if Salty starts to work at first more, the LaRoche experiment is not going anywhere—I know he is a good glove but we need production not strikeouts out of a power position.LaRoche should work on pitching or trade him in the offseason.

By Bob

April 26, 2006 07:00 PM | Link to this

Brilliant Jimmy, just brilliant … maybe Blank could use some new blood in his campaign to get the Braves.

By BP

April 26, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

I’m really tired of everyone talking about how bad AOL/ TW has been to the franchise. If I recall, in recent years two teams with payrolls between 40K and 60K have won the world series. Placing a high priced free agent or two on this team is NOT going to make a difference. Tough decisions have to be made. Do we send Francouer back to AAA or let him work through his problems? Why do we continue to rely on Sosa and Ramirez when they have yet to show anything this year. You have to look at the quality of the players collectively. Do they work well together…chemistry. Do they know what the other person will do before they do it…chemistry. We cannot keep people on the field long enough to develop the chemistry. Why platoon at first base? Find the guy who can get it done and hold them accountable. Things will come around…it’s early. If we continue to struggle mid-season…I give everybody permission to whine and worry. The blame to this point is squarely on the coaches and players, NOT AOL! (By the way, if you are wondering, I subscribe to netzero, so there is no personal investment in AOL). An 80-85k payroll should be sufficient if the team has the appropriate leadership and the fire in the gut to win.

By Kerry

April 26, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this

As bad as this season has started I’m still optimistic about our chances of being in contention for the playoffs come August/September. Today’s loss can be attributed to the defense (5 runs, only 1 earned) which is supposed to a strong part of the team. Sosa looked better and if Chipper and LaRoche make those two plays we would have won the game. The one thing that bothers me the most is that we don’t seem to be clicking on all cylinders; we get good hitting and the pitching is not there, good pitching and the hitting goes south. Some inconsistency in the pitching and the offense is expected due to the lack of experience of the younger players but the defense is one area of the game that should always come through.

Maybe BC should try this: Outside of Chipper or Andruw, anyone that comes up with a runner on 1st and less than 2 outs should be called on to bunt. There are no real basestealing threats on the team and it would put some pressure on the opposing defense, anything to jumpstart the offense. The pitching has been better and will be fine but guys swinging for the fence too often has got tops in K’s and last in OBP. Situational baseball is what they need to be playing.

By Brian

April 26, 2006 07:38 PM | Link to this

Seems like all the posts are suggesting the Braves need to be shaken up starting with ownership. What would people propose JS and Cox do? I would love to hear DOB’s plan if he were the GM.

By TennesseePaul

April 26, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

MBATL: The trade/offer talks were surrounding Thomson and Wilson. They died when Thomson said his elbow hurt. I still disaggree with those talks on priciple.
If the talks were concerning Sosa, it wouldn’t have been a bad idea. But they weren’t. Sosa makes less than Thomson and less than Wilson. Wilson has a 3.5 million dollar contract. Not many teams have a bench player that costs that much, and that’s what he’d be on the Braves team. Plus, historically, Wilson is a K machine. Sosa alone wouldn’t have covered the trade, so more would be needed. It just would have been to much on our side to get that guy only to have him on the bench.

By old timer

April 26, 2006 08:09 PM | Link to this

Man, I hate it when they play like this. You know how they are, though. They get on a roll, and win like 19 of 23. Just a matter of time.

By Chris

April 26, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

The starting pitching got off to a slow start, and the hitting kept us going through the first few games. While the hitting has tailed off, the pitching has come around. Like the Braves have done a couple of times before, they are having a slow start. If there is one thing that should be clear to everyone in Atlanta, it is that the Braves will end the season in first place. In fact, I believe they will be in first place by the break. The season isn’t even a fourth of the way done, but people are already jumping on the boo train. Give the Braves a chance to do what they do.

By JasonInMaine

April 26, 2006 08:17 PM | Link to this

For all of you guys who said Hudson pitched good/well last night…NO he did not. An ERA of 5.14 from your supposed ace is NOT good, well, or ok. It sucks. Plain and simple. Don’t know what else to say about it.

By ssiscribe

April 26, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

OK, gotta go bang out some stuff for my day job, ha ha, but real quick: I see both sides of the frustration here. The ballclub has played pretty poorly the past few days. Just think how bad it would be were it not for the complete-game gems the Braves have received from Smoltz, Hudson and Davies.

On the other hand, while it indeed is early and 141 games remain, it would be nice to play well this weekend. Even if the Mets sweep, the season is not over and neither is the race. With that said, this weekend would be a fine time to start turning things around, and I think it should start with the bright, young right fielder taking a seat for a game or two.

Also, remember all you panic-button pushers, the Braves just got Chipper and Giles back, and Renteria will be back this weekend. Once those guys all get back into the lineup, I think you’ll see the offense respond again. It’s a long, long season.

OK, back to tying up this ensuing blowout in front of me. Y’all enjoy the day off.

By Carolina Lady

April 26, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

Missed the game today. Went out to Woodbury Nursing Home today as I do everyday to visit my Mother who is recovering from a broken back. She’ll be back home in another few months. Good news there!

Visited and talked with a (permanent) resident there named Gene whom I’ve come to know these past few months. What a great old gentleman! He was a sergeant in WW2, was on Iwo Jima and was in the lead group who made it up Mt Suribachi. What stories he has to tell from his wheelchair. He’s terribly crippled with arthritis now and there are not that many people who are interested in just another old man who lives in a nursing home.

Talked with the mother of a young 20+ year old who was in an awful auto accident five months ago. He’s badly brain-damaged and will spend the remainder of his life in a care facility.

Visited with a few others I’ve met over the course of time. They are so appreciate of a few minutes of someone’s time. And each one of them is a treasure.

Came home, made supper, and read the blog.

Perspective.

By Blake

April 26, 2006 08:30 PM | Link to this

Does LaSuck even have to come up to the plate, or can he just wave a towel from the dugout and automatically be a counted as a strikeout. That would save us all some time and misery

By Bob

April 26, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

JasonInMaine,

Take your time, I just know that you can find something more to say about it!

Seriously Jason, ERAs aren’t always good indicators of how well or poorly a pitcher is performing; certainly they’re not perfect. I remember a team once that had the best fielding percentage in all of baseball … and their pitchers all had poor ERAs. The problem was that … it really was a very poor defensive team and the fielders weren’t getting to any balls so they didn’t make any errors … but the bad guys scored runs even though the pitching was pretty good.

The other problem with using ERAs to evaluate Pitching Performance is that “unearned run” element … low ERAs with a high “unearned” element usually indicates bad pitching from someone that can’t handle adversity when it’s not his fault.

The one thing I really can’t stand are is the touting of relievers that have very low ERAs and a “Inherited Runner” Ratio approaching 1.000.
For all of you guys who said Hudson pitched good/well last night…NO he did not. An ERA of 5.14 from your supposed ace is NOT good, well, or ok. It sucks. Plain and simple. Don’t know what else to say about it.

By Paul Hamiton

April 26, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

The roach and frenchy really look terrible. It’s too early to count the Braves out for the season. Oh and Brandon from Wisconsin, a sweep of the Mets would be sweet, but please please give it a rest about the Braves not selling out games. The announced attendance for the Brewers game the other night was barely over 7,000. You guys have no room to talk about supporting your team. We have more people than that at spring training games.

By JasonInMaine

April 26, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

Bob,

I hear what you are saying (especially about relievers), but overall; I have to respectfully disagree. I think ERA is a very telling stat for a pitcher. Other stats like WHIP are new, hip, and cool, but it is all about how many runs you give up for a pitcher. I can say with a lot of certainty that most clubs wouldn’t pay a guy &$12.5 mill for an “Ace” that gives up 4 runs every 7 innings pitched and has an ERA of 5.14. I just expect more out of a guy who is taking up, what, 15.6% of the team’s payroll? Hudson pitched great…other than the one inning in which he let up 3 runs. Since we have to count that inning, he didn’t pitch well.

Jason

By journalist jimmy smith

April 26, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

journalist asks, have you ever seen so many strikeouts? langerhans has quietly gotten within 5 of laroche and langy now has 2 more than francoeur. just consider this: laroche 25, langerhans 20, a. jones 19, francoeur 18, giles 16, betemit 16. orr has 10 in 36 ab. this is a huge part of the problem.

By Miles

April 26, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this

Jason, ERA is not the best way to measure how good a pitcher is because that is a team oriented stat. If your team plays crap defense then thats not the pitchers fault. To truly measure how good a pitcher is you need to include WHIP, K/BB ratio, etc. Because if you just go by ERA you will confuse good pitchers for bad pitchers and vice versa. A prime example of this is Jorge Sosa in 2005.

By Swangirl

April 26, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

There’s no doubt they are struggling.

Hey, at least Dan Kolb is gone! ;-)

By Dave Knockahomer

April 26, 2006 09:47 PM | Link to this

Lordy, Lordy! Thank God, we aren’t at 4 and 40! but Frenchy is totally undisciplined at the plate—need more time at AAA to learn how to hit; lineup is a mess and inconsistent—-maybe if and when everyone gets healthy, we will start playing like a pro team; offense stinks! pitching improved; offense went down the tubes; defense …ohmy! we need help! :) BUT, it isn’t mid May…..yet! When that gets here, in about 2 weeks, and we are still straggling around trying to figure things out, THEN I will truly get worried. Right now, we look like a team that hasn’t a clue—-about much of anything. Too many strikeouts…….no small ball. and the beat goes on! So, some spanking needs to be done or we will be in an even deeper pit than we are in. STILL those Mets are coming to town and dang, I hope we play them in Atlanta like we did in New York. Maybe we was jest restin’ a spell agin the Brewers…….

Lordy, Lordy

By journalist jimmy smith

April 26, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

knockahomer is right, no small ball. they won’t accept a base on balls. they don’t try to move the runner - they try for the homerun. renteria was putting the ball in play and he made a huge difference in the team. still, that is not the style of the braves. in bobby-ball, you try for the 2-run homerun. it has worked for the best record in the division many times. during that time he had the best pitching and defense. now, he has a different kind of club. will he teach them small ball? or will they continue to swing for the fences and try to pull-pull-pull the ball? something must give. look at all those strikeouts!

By Paul Hamilton

April 26, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

Yes the strikeouts are coming at an alarming pace. It was awesome to see Chipper hit that home run the other night, but he looks tired. He has bigger bags under his eyes than BCox. Maybe the sale of the Braves has everyone on the team a little worried and pressing? They really look lost at the plate right now.

By JasonInMaine

April 26, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

That’s why it is called EARNED run average…I am not saying WHIP and K/BB ratio aren’t useful as well, but you simply can’t ignore ERA…

By Tomahawkin

April 26, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

Quote…A .197 average in their past 10 games, with three runs or fewer scored in eight.

A sub-.200 average with runners in scoring position in their past 15 games.

Nine strikeouts in six innings Wednesday for Milwaukee’s Ben Sheets, who has 52 in 37-2/3 innings against the Braves in his past five starts against them.

A right fielder batting .190 with nine RBIs, no walks and 18 strikeouts.

A league-worst .298 opponents’ average with runners in scoring position before Wednesday.

A league-high 173 strikeouts by Braves hitters and league-low .312 on-base percentage.”

This must improve if we are gonna win #15 over the last 14 years we weren’t a team that was known 4 striking out, we need to get back to that…

We desperately need to get these spring training questions (leadoff, hitters, and the blow-pen) straightened out, before we start playing the Big Boys (Cubs, Cardinals, Stros)

Being optomistic We’ll have our Mutt Killa back 4 dis weekend… If Chipper wants to reclaim his Team leader role he’d better carry this team on his back, because I’m beginning to think this is the worse offensive braves lineup since 1990

as long as we play this way until our annual June Bloom, I’m livin one series at a time, Still 140 games left…

Go Braves!

By Tomahawkin

April 26, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

Aight, We better have good crowds this weekend, because Muts fans are talking all kinds of sh-yt about turning the Ted into Shea Stadium South, and I know we ain’t going out like that…

Go Braves!

By Miles

April 26, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

Jason, I understand what you’re saying but the other stats are what leads a player to have a good or bad ERA over the long run. A pitcher can sustain a great ERA for only so long if he has a poor K/BB ratio and a poor WHIP. Jorge Sosa and Russ Ortiz are perfect examples of this. Any Major League scout will pay more attention to a pitcher’s WHIP than his ERA.

By Ron Roberts

April 26, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

It’s absurd for any of us to say that the team’s chemistry isn’t there, this year, unless any of us…

1. Are on the team

2. In the clubhouse

3. Work for the organization

4. Cover them as a journalist

The “chemistry” of the Braves will never be a problem so long as Bobby Cox manages this team.

Also, the bullpen isn’t this team’s problem. We’ve lsot so many 1-2 run games because, early on, our starters took us out of games before our offense and bullpen had a chance to matter.

The Brewers are an improved team, but we should’ve gotten one game out the series. But let’s face it, we just got Chipper back, Giles is playing with a bum finger, and we had no Edgar Renteria in the lineup. Folks, Diaz, Pena, Orr and Prado will never be a “murderer’s row.” Those four played a good bit in the last two series, because of injuries, and they’re what they call “high AAA” caliber players, at best.

This team’s chief concerns have nothing to do with the bullpen… a few things I want to see out of this team in the next week…

1. Something has to be done with Francoeur. Send him down, bench him, MAKE him take a first pitch in each at-bat… just do something with the kid to get him back to being a viable contributor. He’s more a “sure out” than John Thomson right now…

2. Okay, Jorge Sosa didn’t look horrible today, just not a guy folks were hoping to get 15-18 wins out of after last year’s big splash. Let’s see two consistent “so-so” starts in a row and build on that from there.

3. Move Langerhans up where Francoeur is in the lineup and take JF down to 8th if you’re gonna keep playing him through his struggles

4. LOVE LaRoche’s power numbers and glove, but man, the Ks are killing us, kid. In my honest assessment, he needs to step outta the batter’s box more often and catch his breath a bit. Knowing a little bit about ADHD, he needs to develop a “chill out” habit at the plate. He gets two strikes in the count and seems to wig out.

5. Let’s hope for continued success from Smoltz, Thomson, Hudson and Davies. They’ve looked FAIRLY good the past two turns through the rotation altogether, so the more consistently those four give us that, the sooner this squad puts together a long winning streak.

By Peewee

April 26, 2006 11:55 PM | Link to this

Ron Roberts-THE BEST BLOG TODAY. I agree! NOW, please TW sell to BLANK.

By Bob

April 27, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

bob, You should ashamed of yourself for submitting such sloppy posts!

Jason, bob’s right … Of course, I don’t trust my opinion. My wife, “little Mama”, called me in for supper and I hit the Post Button without first reading what I had said.

I apologize!! I had copied the end of your post and thought I had already modified it … here’s the intended version:

“For all of you guys who said Hudson pitched good/well last night…Well, maybe he did and maybe he didn’t … beauty is in the eye of the beholder … but, his ERA, regardless of whether is 10.00 or 1.00, has little to do with the evaluation of Last Night’s Performance!!

Don’t know what else to say about it.”

Again, I apologize, but little out done herself this time … that food sure was good!

I love beating beating dead horses … they can’t kick back. I admit to having used statistics a time or two myself, but only as a tool, and only with extreme caution. Pitching is an art … and there are just about as many different styles as there are Pitchers/Artists. Different styles call for different statistics and different interpertations of same … strikeout pitchers that are getting fewer and fewer strikeouts bothers me … and stats that indicate such a trend make me want to look futher for the underlying cause … like maybe he’s lost it … or maybe he’s changing styles; cagy old fox that he is.

When crafty, accomplished artists like Maddux start getting more and more strikeouts I get curious too … much in the same way.

When I hear that someone pitched a “perfect” game aginst the Giants with a healthy Bonds in the lineup … I hope the stats reflect 3 intentional walks … otherwise it wasn’t perfect … just pure dumb luck!

Use statistics, regardless of what they are … to point you in the right direction so you can understand what’s behind them.

Then you’ll know what else to say about it. I promise!

By David Duncan

April 27, 2006 01:05 AM | Link to this

After the Mets sweep the Braves this weekend, the Braves will be out of the NL East race. Just think Braves fans it is only the end of April, and its all over for your Braves in 2006.

By Bob

April 27, 2006 01:33 AM | Link to this

Jimmy Smith,

I’m surprised that it didn’t click with me before now. Why don’t you buy the Braves? I’ve known for sometime that you love the Braves and know a lot about Baseball. I know too that you’re a good man … or George Manners and Noah Langsdale wouldn’t have had anything to do with you!

I now realize that you have the money and can afford to come to the rescue … if not by yourself, then certainly in partnership with Mr. Home Depot.

Jimmy, you let the horse out of the barn … or rather the egg out of the basket … when it slipped that you bought that Faberge thing for your baby seal. Anybody that can afford to do that, can certainly afford to buy the Braves; even without a tax break.

I used to think that Faberge was a perfume but I had the great good fortunate to see one of the eggs, up close and personal, on a trip to Russia a few years back … unbelievable, I figure that Faberge must’ve been a 4 digit man.

We were told that he made about 250 of those “eggs” and every one is supposed to be unique. The Russians are interesting folks … the National Debt is huge and living standards are generally low, except for the Mafia … but they could change all that in a flash … if they really wanted to … by just puting just part of the contents of the Hermitage on E-Bay.

Changing locations; seeing the “Mona Lisa” from 3-4 feet away really blew me a way … nothing like what I had imagined from the copies that I had seen … one of my greatest thrills, even better than meeting Eddie Mathews and Country Brown; … unfortunately, we can’t do any of those things any more … my Faberge experience was at the high on the list too!

By teoa

April 27, 2006 01:39 AM | Link to this

Sosa is bad, the bullpen is bad, LaDouche is LaDouche, no lead off hitter, missing Leo…might be a long year.

By joe

April 27, 2006 01:55 AM | Link to this

don sutton hypnotized me and I didn’t hear how we lost. dang-he did it again! he is terrible on radio.

By mark

April 27, 2006 02:39 AM | Link to this

Dear mr. Duncan , I didnt know the season ended in April , thanks for letting me know. I look forward to watching the world series in May. No ………. seriously , your an idiot.

By Bob

April 27, 2006 03:24 AM | Link to this

Before dropping off, I thought that I’d look over today’s Blog comments, and with the exception of my own sloppiness and a few other slips, I must say that I was impressed.

There are a lot of different views, that’s for sure, but that represents a great amount of thought provoking information and insights … from just about everybody that contributed.

Most everyone seem to have had their good manners with them today and that was a surprise; given the frustration that most of us must have been feeling.

I’ve noticed that we’ve had quite a few visits from supporters of other teams; some who are regular contributors, that have added to the fun … and had some very interesting things to say. Be nice to those guys … the ones with class … and be glad they pay us those visits … we can all learn from them.

To those who have no class, I suggest caution, and offer this promise: “This is Braves Country … we’re a family, and it may look like we just fight like cats and dogs among ourselves … and even call each other bad names … but no dang outsider better try it! Besides, even if we lose to you, and I don’t think we will, 14-1 is one Hell of a lot better than 1-14!”

Those who know me, know that I don’t believe in using cuss words, especially in public; but saying Hell ain’t cussin’, it’s a place we learned about in Church … where bad people go.

By forcesaberz

April 27, 2006 05:22 AM | Link to this

Andruw Jones really needs to turn things around here. As he struggles it seems that the whole team struggles. Have you guys noticed how many crappy balls he has swung at recently? And we’re talking about Frenchy swinging at bad pitches…..I cant tell you how p** I have been lately seeing Andruw swinging at complete crap recently. It doesnt help that we have the Black Hole backing him up right now. I really think K-Roach should be benched for Jurries (Please get rid of B-Jorden) and we should change the batting order to:
Giles, Langy, Chipper, Andruw, Renteria, McCann, Jurries, Frenchy, Pitcher
Honestly I think that could change a lot. Renteria is a RBI machine and should be batting higher then #2. He is so good with running OB. He was incredible in St.L at #5 and Andruw needs protection BAD!

By forcesaberz

April 27, 2006 05:23 AM | Link to this

Oh, and we should have Chuck james pitching instead of Sosa and trade Ho-Ram with some pen help (such as a lefty)

By Timo

April 27, 2006 05:55 AM | Link to this

Guys… take it easy, it’s April. We didn’t look much better this time last year or the year before that and the year before that. I have absolute confidence in JS and BC. How could one not have?? Pitching is already coming around, the bullpen is better than expected and the hitters will hit once everyone’s healthy. There is absolutely no reason to doubt it and panic now.

By mark

April 27, 2006 06:23 AM | Link to this

In case no one has noticed , we are in third place. Y’all can stone me for saying this but here goes. Getting swept by the MUTS this weekend might actually be a good thing for the Bravos , they would be 8 games out after a month of play and firmly in third place. A circumstance that even Bobby Cox wouldnt be able to ignore , at which heads would roll , dodo will fly and the s.h.it will hit the fan. And after all the smoke cleared we would be a much better Baseball team. Adversity builds character and strength which will be much needed in the remaining five months of baseball. Go Bravos !!!!!

By spud

April 27, 2006 06:28 AM | Link to this

lets go back 2 years ago june 04 the braves were 6 games out number 3 in the divison a lot of you said the braves are done we need to rebuild a lot of you wanted to fire bobby cox then all of a sudden we ripped off 7 or 8 wins in a row got right back in the race and won the division. I think the best owner for the braves is arthur blank he will spend what ever it takes to get this team in the world series, we braves fans have been spoiled for to long if this wee the end of july we should be worried, I am not hang on the braves will take 2 of 3 fom the mets

By Bob

April 27, 2006 07:18 AM | Link to this

The AJC site has had several good reads concerning the sale of the Braves and “Braves players publicly prefer private owner” to which our own DOB’s contributions arent cited, is certainly one of those!

I’m not one that shares the notion that Corporate Ownership focuses on the Bottom Line while Private Local Ownership focuses on winning … both should focus on the bottom line and the good ones always do.

The main differences, at least from my perspective, are that (a) good Private Local Ownership seems to take more of a long term, permanent Asset Management approach and (b) Individual Ownership is more likely to be able to evaluate the Asset on its own merits, without having to give consideration to a multitude of competing internal forces and constantly reevaluating the Asset in terms of an everchanging corporate agenda.

I’m hope Authur Blank is successful in his bid to get the team, most of us probably do. Not because I hope or think that he’ll provide the capital to buy “name players” and championships, as some, including Clipper, seem to do … I think that’s a short sighted, almost “win at all cost”, approach that is poor Asset Management, highly unlikely to succeed long term, and not in the best interest of Baseball.

However, I would think it more likely for him to do things in the long term best interests of the franchise; providing both the leadership and the capital infusion necessary for management to properly maintain, improve and expand the organization.

As slways, John Smoltz was John Smoltz … but then John is a classy 3 digit guy.

Regardless of your view, it a good read.

By glennbo

April 27, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

DOB, is the impending sale to liberty a possible partial reason for the funk the guys looked to be in yesterday? (the other would be that they have had a hellacious road to home ratio to start the year.)

Also, is it possible that mlb would not approve the sale as it is not in the best interest for the franchise to be owned by an absentee corporation?

By Poor Man

April 27, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

The Braves are going to be just fine folks, Salty is on his way back up here. McDowell is doing a fine job. Go Braves.

By doc

April 27, 2006 08:44 AM | Link to this

first thing out of smoltzie’s mouth on 680 the fan this am was saying that the schedule is going to be tough playing 37 of the first fifty games on the roda. we gotta stay close and it’s going to be a real grind. seems like he says it is hard to stay focused under those circumstances.

dob can you reflect on this as you are out there with them? is it a grind? i was a consultant ealry in life and on the road a lot and it sure wore on me, felt like a visitor in my own town after a while and fatigue set in quickly. how is it going to run for these young guys and newlyweds?

By Paul Hamilton

April 27, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

Well everyone thinking that Liberty is going to turn around and sell the Braves can move on to something else. Says they can’t sell the team for two years. It sounds like the money they get is put into something like an escrow account and they can’t touch the money, except for maybe Braves purposes. Should be interesting to say the least! I was disappointed to read how much Blank wanted to buy the Braves only to get screwed by this whole tax break deal.

By Blake

April 27, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

I am really surprised the MLB approved this group to bid on the team

By DrBert

April 27, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

To quote: “Begging the question, what are these boys thinking about, ‘cause it sure ain’t baseball!”

By T

April 27, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

This sell is not in the Best Interest of Baseball. I hope MLB will step in and stop it. Finally when a local Steps up to the Plate TW Throws a curve to the fans. Money talks.

By Baseball Nut

April 27, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

I can’t stand the fact that another faceless corporation could end up owning the Braves. What is their stake in spending money to put a winning team on the field in Atlanta? The fact that this deal boils down to a favorable tax situation for this Colorado based company is ridiculous because it says to me that they want to buy the team for all the wrong reasons.

Arthur Blank is the PERFECT person to sell the team to because as he has shown with the Falcons that he is committed to putting a winner on the field and he knows how to increase the value of a sports franchise. Also he wants to buy the team because he loves the game of baseball and he knows that he can make this a profitable venture, what more could MLB ask for out of an owner? Then again MLB has shown before that it just doesn’t get it.

I have not heard any representative from the Liberty Corporation say anything about loving the game or a desire to put a winning team on the field. Why should they, when according to an article in Forbes magazine it is more profitable to put a losing team on the field, and from everything I have heard about the Liberty Corporation they are only doing this out of a concern to increase profits. Now I have no problem with a corporation being all about making profits - when that corporation is selling widgets - but baseball is not selling widgets. This deal stinks!

By Centerfielder X

April 27, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

The pitching(at least the starters) seems to be a problem. I’m not sure of the health of him(or where he is), but Kevin Brown always wanted to play for the Braves. Is there a possibility there?

By Kentavo

April 27, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Hey DOB (and bloggers) - I live in Myrtle Beach and it’s kinda funny (but not funny ha hah) that on much of the Myrtle Beach Pelicans’ promotional material they feature pictures of way-below-the-Mendoza-line Francouer.

By Hunk Erdown

April 27, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

The Braves have been on split squads ever since grapefruit league play. Once we get everyone together and somewhat healthy things will change up. Francuer’s problem is symbolic of the Braves as a whole… We don’t work the other pitcher. We guess at pitches. If I were coaching Frenchy, here’s what I’d do for the next two weeks: I’d tell him, “Don’t swing at anything until the pitcher throws a strike. If you get ahead in the count, take another strike. If you are even or behind in the count, after taking a strike, on your first at bat, hit it down the right field line. On your second at bat, pull it over the 3rd baseman…. etc. etc.”

Frenchy is doing like a lot of the Braves hitters, swinging away and hoping it makes contact. Absolutely no thought on this team about trying to get to the other team’s bullpen. If the other team’s pitcher walks a guy, our next batter should be fined for swinging at the first pitch. Early in the season like this, pitch counts mean a lot… to not try to use that as a strategy for winning a game is crazy. It also breeds success for hitting because the batters will be seeing more pitches. The absolute worse one on the team for this is Brian Jordon, who is on the team, partly, because of “so-called” leadership. He’s the biggest rally killer in the history of baseball. Terry Pendleton needs to get off his butt and at least teach some peewee league stuff. We have guys that can’t even lay down a sac. bunt! Thats disgraceful in the bigs.

By LeTwan Anthony

April 27, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

• “Chipper Jones has a different view. “We saw with Time Warner our payroll going down, down, down,” he said. “With Ted [Turner] as our owner …we were able to sign some big free agents and pretty much contend for the World Series every year. When people are more concerned with the bottom line, you’re going to have your troubles competing with the big boys.”*

????

By James

April 27, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

The braves need a true leadoff player.The one down in fla would have been nice!OH he has a weak arm in the OF.I wonder if he can get to and catch pop ups!!!

By Kentavo

April 27, 2006 10:17 AM | Link to this

JS won’t let this last too long without making changes. Remember last year when Monchichi was run out of left field?

By ernesto

April 27, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

I agree that it’s early to panic, but we’ve got some pretty big problems.We’ve got near guaranteed rally killers batting 5 and 6. Langerhans has been slumping, hell, everyone’s been slumping. If Andruw doesn’t carry the team we don’t win, and we can’t depend on Andruw to carry the team every night. I think it’s time for the Veteran leadership to have a closed door team only meeting and get the chemistry right. And we’ve got to bat Frenchy 8th, he’ll probably see more pitches b/c they won’t want to walk him and bring the pitcher up. I think with things going like they are for him, it’s too much pressure for him to get out of it in a must-produce spot in the line up.

By mart

April 27, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

There was a crucial situation in a tight game several years ago and the Braves sent to the plate Ozzie Guillen, Walt Weitz, and Eddie Perez (and 2 of those 3 were pinchhitters!). This reminds me of then; the Braves have huge, long holes in their lineup.

By Alex

April 27, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

First…Brewers fans, it’s nice of you to show up at a Braves Blog after your team swept Atlanta…and yeah, the person who talked about attendance and how “ungrateful” the fans here have become to go to NLDS games, look at your own stands first. I’ve seen more people at a high school football game here in Georgia.

Second…Mets fans. I bet you’re feeling great, coming in here, all gloating in first place. How many of you showed up after the Braves took 2 out of 3 at Shea? Right, I forget, you’re only bold enough to post here when things are going well for your NY Mets and the Braves are struggling. Very classy. Kick a fanbase when their team is down. Oh, btw, keep your Yankees gear handy, b/c come October, you’ll want to have that around as your NY Mets will be nowhere to be found, and you’ll be resporting to doing your annual “switching” over to the Yankees.

Third…Braves fans. Lets pack “The Ted” this weekend and support our team. I know it’s been more than frustrating, trying to watch them play through this latest road trip, but true fans support their team during the good and the bad. You gotta believe that they’ll turn it around. Let’s look at the standings Memorial Day, and go from there.

Go Braves…and I look forward to hearing the “beat the mets” song on 680 the fan, during the buck & kincade show on Monday.

By David Spruill

April 27, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

I think we are on the verge of getting out of this slump. We had a good 9th inning yesterday and I expect it to carry over onto Friday. Renteria is starting on Friday and now we have our team back on the field that had no problems scoring runs. I believe that we do need to change the batting order but I don’t believe Frenchy needs to go to the 8th spot. Why you ask, b/c the 8th batter has to be patient, you have the pitcher behind you and you are not going to get this best pitches to hit. I believe that is why Langerhans was so good in that spot. He was killing it in that spot b/c he will take a walk. Langerhans at the top though they come right after him and that is why he is struggling. I believe we need to put McCann in the five spot, LaRoche in the 6 spot, Frenchy in the 7 and etc. Or swap LaRoche 7 and Frenchy 6th. The line-up should be: Giles, Renteria(thank god he is back), Chipper, Andruw, McCann, LaRoche/Frenchy, LaRoche/Frenchy, Langerhans, pitcher spot. I also believe some of the recent struggles have been the scheduling. We can say it was the weather, but guess what they other team had to play in the same conditions. I believe playing 15 of our first 21 on the road has had something to do with it. Whats even worse is that we play 25 of our first 36 on the road. Someone made it hard for Atl in the first weeks. What we need to do though is take 2 of 3 from NYM and sweep the short series with COL. We need a 4 out of 5 deal. Atl’s destination is in their hands over the next two weeks. I believe though they are getting ready to play like the Braves we all know. GO BRAVES!

By LeTwan Anthony

April 27, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

LeTwan has been reading Chipper quotes this morning and LeTwan thinks the boy got into some bad pie. Uh, did LeTwan miss some pennants from 1976 up until 1991? Haven’t the Braves been a division winner since 1991? Isn’t Chipper the team leader? Is he saying they haven’t had the players to win? Uh, what is he saying?

By snes

April 27, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

Under the tax code, Liberty also wouldn’t be able to sell the Braves for about two years, Crisafi said.

Upon selling the Braves, Liberty would be taxed on the team’s increase in value.

That is the part that worries me the most! I got this from the Final Innings article.

By James

April 27, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this

The Braves need to spend the money to fill holes.That is the bottem line,they have done great.Just think what they could have been if they done what was necessary to fill those holes!!!GO BRAVES!!!!

By jrock310

April 27, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

I read the FINAL INNINGS article as well. I can see Liberty turning my team into the NL version of the Royals, or dropping down to the Pirates level. Has Selig made any comments about this whole deal? If he is so concerned about his “legacy”, surely the sale won’t be approved to an owner who has publicly admitted they want the team for tax purposes….

By Bob

April 27, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

welcome back LeTwan, send Larry a pie, one of mama’s humble ones!

By LeTwan Anthony

April 27, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

Hello, Bob. LeTwan is trying to understand Chipper today. Sometimes LeTwan has to read Chipper’s quotes more than once for understanding. Either Chipper is really smart or __. LeTwan fears that the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead. Mama hasn’t made a pie in several days. Maybe today.

By Coop

April 27, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

This Liberty Media deal has me worried. The company has no financial motivation whatsoever to increase the value of this franchise. Best case scenario for the Braves if the deal is completed with Liberty? Status quo, meaning the payroll will stay at the current level. Reducing the payroll and making a popular franchise a dog again may not be the best PR move for a new owner, but it is certainly not unprecedented. Afterall, they’re probably Rockies fans anyway.

By MGL

April 27, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

Eddie Perez is hitting .360 and playing first in Miss. Maybe Bobby will bring in more veteren presence.

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

It is good to see scribe is doing journalism again on the blog. too few journalists on the blog lately. now, scribe … do you think bobby will sit francoeur? he sends him up when his team needs him most and francoeur continues to flail away at everything. that makes jimmy smith think bobby will continue to pencil him in and let him “work through” his difficulties. Still, what else can bobby do? giles at leadoff looked so good early on and now what do you think? A .215 average doesn’t say much does it? renteria will be a big help - but we lose betemit when he gets back. bobby may have had the luxury of letting scoring opportunities wane when he had the best pitching all those years but now the situation is different. that big hole at 5 and 6 is dreadful. now, seal … sitz bath works wonders! seal is now walking much better and is in improved mood. journalist is taking seal to tooner field tomorrow. hope to see many of you there. seal will be dressed as small fan. journalist is handsome man easily recognized - carrying small fan with whiskers and flippers.

By MGL

April 27, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Coop - Your statement leads me to believe that you aren’t a business person. Liberty has significant financial motivation to increase the value of the Braves. It is this particular transaction that is contemplated with TW that has tax advantages to both companies due to the asset exchange. Liberty wants assets that will increase in value. If they turn the Braves in two years, they certainly want it to be worth more than they paid, even if they have to pay taxes on the increase in value. To do otherwise would be foolish.

By metsmanintheatl

April 27, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

swept by the loser brewzers…face it atl/it is over…mets in a walk as other division foes are weak as well…we challenged barry and still won/our year!!…GO METROPOLITANS!!!!!!!!!!!

By Jman

April 27, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

All mets fans invading this blog:

We took 2 out of 3 from your team IN New York, with the SAME team that got swept by the Brew Crew! Until you beat us head to head and win the division SHUTUP!!! The best thing for a Braves slump is to have the Mets come to town. Always has been. We’ll see how many of you are in our blogs come Monday. Bye bye Mutts.

By JOHN B.

April 27, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

metsmanintheatl, This kind of thing happens every year. Atlanta has ALWAYS started out slow. They have been 5-10 games out in June and still come back to win the division. There’s still 140 + games to play.

I would have thought Mets fans would have learned to keep their mouth shut after the Braves took 2 of 3 in NY. And if it were not for swirling winds, game one of that series would have been tied in the 8th by Jones. And the mighty Mets could have easily been swept.

And since the Mets started 10-2, they have gone 4-5. Not exactly red hot.

By Chop Chop

April 27, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Hot damn! Frenchy’s got hissef an endorsement deal!

Francoeur to be Delta pitchman

Bankrupt Delta…a pitchman who can’t take one…makes sense.

By Dubya Cubed

April 27, 2006 02:18 PM | Link to this

I can’t stand NY fans like this “mutts man in heat”. If you can’t root for the home team, go North. Frenchy’s Delta will fly you there.

By braves fan in rockies land

April 27, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

I’m not alarmed about the potential new owners. Yet. Even if TW agrees to sell to Liberty, MLB may not approve. On the Sunday ESPN telecast, Peter Gammons cited how long it’s taken to get an ownership group in Washington because MLB wanted both stability and a commitment to the community. (He also pointed out that MLB allowed out-of-towners to buy the Red Sox and the Dodgers because the owners planned to invest in the clubs and stay put.) So MLB brass may try to put some sort of conditions on any deal that would prevent Liberty from being short-term owmers. When I first saw the rumors about Liberty a few weeks back, one thing that stuck out was that inside sources said Liberty was interested in broadcast revenues the team could generate. Since those of us who don’t live in the South never get to see Ross and Monica and Chandler rather than the Braves, I’d be darned happy if whoever buys the club puts more games on the air!

By Richard in Goosecreek

April 27, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

Anyone who says this is the worst they have ever seen the Braves play (re: first blogger)obviously did not see them during the Russ Nixon era.

I have been following baseball and the Braves for close to 35 years now, and I can honestly say that if MLB allows the sale to go through to LM instead of AB after all of the lip service they have given over the years to “Local Ownership”, it may be time to look elsewhere for my leisurely pursuits. The suits that run MLB have just about done everything possible by their actions or in-actions to destroy the game, and it may be that I will have had enough if things go as they appear to be headed.

My Two Cents…

By Baseball Nut

April 27, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Having Adam Laroche as a 1B is like having a Porsche with cloth seats, sure they work, but why would settle for crappy seats on such a nice car.

I don’t think I have ever seen anyone look less like a hitter than Laroche does in the batters box. He is awful, I sure hope Salty down in the minors can figure out how to play 1B because we need his stick!

By hk

April 27, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

Bob,

…humble ‘pie’, I love it …

… pretty fair [article] (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AkE5jMrjhPnkSHU.38VzlARvLYF?slug=jp-mcdowell042606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) by Jeff Passan in Yahoo sports today about Roger’s dilemma, triggers some thoughts … as I said a while back, think it takes a good while for a coach to get to know his pitchers, nuances and all, and visa versa, maybe as much as a season for some … Roger’s style is quite different … as near as I can tell, he’s a nice guy … he has been very discrete in his comments to the press … Leo, on the other hand, was a little bit on the rough side … I’ve been a management consultant since ‘68, have noticed that hard nosed managers, while they make you mad sometimes, are often more effective than ‘nice’ guys … while you might not like the way they say things, if they are consistent day in and day out, you get to know what to expect, and there’s a comfort level in that … on the other hand, if a guy is more ‘tactful’, you’re never sure what he means … the teachers I remember with fondness from school days were the ones that were tough on me … of course, Roger’s the new guy on the block fresh out of triple A, is probably tip-toing a bit, and I would too in his shoes …

… looking at Roger’s [pitching stats] (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcdowro01.shtml), he never started a game in the big leagues, and it looks like quite a few of his 16 seasons in the majors years were spent as a middle reliever … I wonder if this might make it harder for him to get in sync with his starters, identify with their needs … but, then again, he was alot better pitcher than Leo …

… the Braves are no longer required to throw two bullpen sessions between starts, as Leo rrquired … I think this would be a key thing to continue, for a couple of reasons … first, I think consistent pitching is a matter of getting in sync, then staying there … the in-betweens help the body (and the mind) remember what is working, stay in rhythm … I think Roger, as a reliever, probably got his frequent bullpen sessions all through his career, may not realize a starter needs that too … secondly, I feel like one of the keys to preventing injury is frequent low-level exercise, to keep all the juices flowing, and, again, remind the bod what it’s supposed to be doing, keep all the parts lubricated and loose …

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this

delta must have signed francoeur with the idea that his stock is down around where theirs has been. maybe they are trying to build their market presence in richmond. who knows? stay tuned for the blitz from dob. journalist out.

By CK

April 27, 2006 04:04 PM | Link to this

Perhaps in a couple of years when they retire either Glavine, Smoltzie or Maddox will come in as Pitching coach under the new Manager-Terry Pendleton. Of course we will still need to replace JS as GM since he and Cox will most likely retire together.

Any Ideas for a replacement GM???

By Scott

April 27, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

Jeff Francoeur = Brad Komminsk

By Bob

April 27, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

LeTwan, trying to understand Chipper is sometimes alot tougher than making good pies … might be best to have his Daddy present at all interviews.

There’s no question about Chipper’s having done his best for the Braves and I always cheer for him! My comments shouldn’t be taken literally ‘cause they aren’t so intended … I don’t really question his attitude, intelligence or effort … he just makes it easy to wonder sometimes.

LeTwan, here’s some more observations, written without evil intent, for you to enjoy and ponder.

I’ve always wanted proof of the theory that “players do better if they are coddled and overpaid” because it gives ‘em an attitude and they can concentrate on baseball while living the good life without worring about the more mundane things in life … I’m still looking for it

Maybe it’s hard for you to tell if Larry’s really smart because his intelligence might be of the storebought, artifical kind … and you’re just not used to artificial things since mama only taught you about natural things, like the ingredients used in her pies. I’ll bet if you ask her, she’ll caution you against any of the artifical stuff.

My mama always said if parents try to make homemade ice cream from egg-beaters and skim milk; chances are their kids will turn out the same way.

Some fans seem to think that Chipper’s like the Bear, and can walk on water … I’ll grant you he’s good and that may be true, but it seems that’s only when his his Daddy there to tell him where the rocks are. When he’s on his own, it seems he’d be well advised to stay in the boat with the rest of us or stick to crossing dried up creeks in the summertime.

By Bob

April 27, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

Oops! yet another example of my recent “yips” … of course it should read “when his Daddy’s there”.

By eric the elder

April 27, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Baseball Nut, I mentioned this on Chop Chick’s blog, but it’s worth repeating. Salty is hitting .258 at Mississippi, and he has 16 K’s in 66 AB’s. I’m not sure that’s the stick we need. He needs much work, just like Francoeur did before we had to bring him up.

By LeTwan Anthony

April 27, 2006 04:55 PM | Link to this

Bob, LeTwan has been reflecting on your comments and is a bit confused. Remember, Chipper is the daddy of all those babies - shouldn’t he be the daddy in the room when the interview takes place? If Chipper has artificial intelligence as you suggest do you think he is a humanoid? If so, why does he have bad hamstrings? In answer to CK, maybe the Braves are grooming Chipper for GM when JS retires. His contract will still be in force and this current group of young infielders will all be retired. Bob’s mama sounds like a smart lady. Mama would like her.

By hk

April 27, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

…on Bonds, et al … I don’t think any records should be ‘asterisked’, or guys punished, for past offences occuring before the current tougher rules were finally in place … punishment for offences going forward, of course … but I think the records of the likes of McGuire, Sosa, and particularly Bonds, have already been greatly tarnished … Bobby is paying a dear price every day, and will be for the rest of his life … he (and others) will be talked about years from now, the way we talk today about the ‘black sox’ scandle … they have already been ‘asterisked’ forever in the hearts of the fans … Bobby has never been one of my favorites personality wise, but I find myself rooting for him to pass Aaron, with the public and media pounding on him all day long every day the way they are … if he makes it, he will deserve it … what a gauntlet he will have run …

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this

journalist jimmy smith to hk. copy editor messed up your post … still time to correct. your friend, jimmy smith

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this

journalist home from brutal road trip and has been working in yard today. weather is beautiful, grass is growing. baby seal has developed taste for next door neighbors’ flowers. now, baseball … is this sale an arms length transaction? the deal may get/need more scrutiny. there are some common ownership issues don’t you think? do tax perks pass so easily? not in businessman jimmy smith’s experience they don’t. now, seals … why do meteorologists on tv require the approval of a seal? why is easter egg hunt so important to baby seal? because of easter seals, of course. soon, jimmy smith will take baby seal to washington, d.c. to view great seal of the united states. much more to seals than meets the eye.

By hk

April 27, 2006 05:19 PM | Link to this

jimmy, I understand, and appreciate … too late now, my turn to take some lumps …

By hk

April 27, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

jimmy, … and my fate ‘sealed’ …

By Bob

April 27, 2006 05:23 PM | Link to this

hk, Thanks! I had a hunch you’d like that.
I thought Jimmy’s last Delta comment was a gem!

I agree that players have to know what the groundrules are need so-called stern, consistent leadership and direction. Successfuly doing that with such a group must require a really qualified, intelligent group of coaches that are all on the same page and know their roles.

What’s your read on the sale of the Braves? Here’s some of my idle thoughts:

While I’ve recently become a strong Blank advocate, I sense, from some comments I’ve read about the “sale” being “tax” driven, that some think all this is about taxes.

My read is that “tax” didn’t drive TW’s decision to sell and it didn’t drive Liberty’s interest in making the purchase. The “Tax” thing is that there’s an currently available artiface that allows both to enjoy strong tax advantages while accomplishing their real objectives.

I think that it’s naive to think that Liberty would do things just to lower Asset Value for the purpose of avoiding taxes. Without belaboring the obvious, they’re past masters at positioning themselves to realize favorable tax treatment in support of their agenda, regardless of Asset performance.

Go Home Depot!

By MGL

April 27, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

A bad day today, no offense, no wins, no game, and no blitz. Not much going on except education of baby seal.

By Chop Chop

April 27, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

You can’t make this stuff up:

*Francoeur has struggled offensively early this season and Delta is reorganizing in bankruptcy court.

“Obviously, we’re in a similar situation relative to our own fight,” said Tim Mapes, Managing Director of Marketing for Delta. “I’m a firm believer it’s always darkest before the dawn. We believe better days are on the horizon for Delta and are confident Jeff can turn it around as well.”*

Lord help us all.

By Chop Chop

April 27, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Taught baby seal new song today: “Kiss From A Rose”. Think baby seal might yet make it in music industry.

By hk

April 27, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this

Bob, … well, my guess on probabilities right now would be Liberty-90, Blank-9, Other-1 … was hopeful Stan Kasten might make a last minute appearance, but I understand his group has succeeded in Washington …

… I’m not so bothered about the tax thing, I think the media is blowing that all out of proportion … these guys are good at managing a lot of different kinds of businesses, as is proven by there past performance … it is in their best interest to improve the market value of the Braves, and I think they fully realize and appreciate how good the Braves management is from top to bottom, it will run itself … as a conglomerant, they’ve got to love that … Liberty has alot of media outlets, and I’m sure they remember when the Braves were making all that money for Ted on TBS, and the Braves truly became “Americas Team’ in the process … If I were in Liberty’s shoes I would loosen the purse strings to maybe 100m, so I could make more than that back marketing the Braves through my media outlets, just like Ted did in the old days …

By Bob

April 27, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

LeTwan, your words really paints a scary picture in my mind’s eye! Mama never met a stranger … sent cards all over the world, just to cheer folks up … everybody loved her; especially the dog and us kids. She was a smart, gentle little lady and still participated in Competitive Scrabble Matches into her mid-eighties … winning the last tourney in which she played. Mama wasn’t like some veteran players … she knew when to stop!

Wish I’d inherited her wit, intelligence, charm, looks, and ability to cook … but, then again, Daddy wasn’t so bad either.

HK, I don’t know about the editor’s goof ..I liked it … sounded pretty good to me like it was! I’m a bit like you; “I just seal ‘em up and send them out” … It’s for that very reason that I’m going to stop reading my own posts … I feel foolish enough as it is.

By Jim From Tenn

April 27, 2006 06:18 PM | Link to this

If liberty looks at the reality, We may only have 2 or 3 more years of bobby and JS. And only 1 or 2 more years of John, Andruw, and Chipper. The time to spend a little extra to win the big one may be running out. Excluding the Red Sox(Because they sell out everyday, Any team that wins the world series, the next Year they average around 6000 more fans per game. And With average ticket price around $20.00 that would add nearly 10 Million dollars in revenue from attendance alone. Not to mention the millions upon millions from TV revenue, Merchandising, endorsment deals, and all that money they’ll get from the time life “world champion Atlanta Braves” crap they sell every year(just kidding)

By hk

April 27, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

… I remember Delta in its hey day … there was a ten year period in the 70’s-80’s when its profits totalled more than the total of all other airlines combined … they had no union, but treated their people well, it was the place to work if you were in that business … then they made that fateful decision of buying Pan Am, getting into the Europe and Asia markets … there were already a lot of really good oufits in that market, and Pan Am was already faltering because of it … profits dropped off very quickly, they brought in new management, tightened up, made their employees mad, were unionized as a direct result …

… so I see the tie in with Frenchy as more of a ‘passing of the baton’, or perhaps just ‘two ships passing in the night’ … Delta’s days are far behind them, Frenchy’s are all ahead …

By Kerry

April 27, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Scott said Jeff Francoeur = Brad Komminsk

I don’t see how you say that JF is another BK so soon.

Here are some comparisons with the two after there first 100 games or so: BK- 337AB, 8HR, 40RBI .220 AVG 84K’s ML debut @ 22. JF- 341AB, 17HR, 54RBI .273 AVG 76K’s ML debut @ 21.

These stats are pretty much the same except for the HR and AVG. JF- more than twice the # of HR and AVG 50+ points higher. JF is a five tool player and once he learns to be patient at the plate he will be one of the top players in the league. You’d need to wait several more years before making such a statement.

By Bob

April 27, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

Hk, interesting read and I can buy into much of what you have said.

Bowman’s article on Jeff contained some pretty good stuff and there’s been some good quotes on the Blog today but I think this understatement from Jeff says it all and may be one for the ages: “It’s almost like I’m wasting at least one at-bat a game”.

LeTwan,

Little Mama just told me that Mama was 86 when she won that Scrabble Match.

Baseball: I was referring to Chipper’s Mouth and Brain … seems I’ve heard rumors but don’t have any solid information about his other body parts.

By hk

April 27, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

Jim from Tenn,

… I know what you read in the papers, but I think Bobby and John are going to be around alot longer than people think … these guys are still relatively young and they both truly love the game … I think as soon as the smoke clears after the acquisition, however it goes, things will probably stabilize, and if they do I think Bobby and John are good for more than a few years …

… the wear and tear on these guys from day-to-day is just not that great …

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

journalists must ask tough questions. jimmy smith asks, why has francoeur not dropped in the order or dropped to the bench? is it because delta is behind a big promotion during the current homestand? is delta influencing roster moves? say it ain’t so. speaking of local ownership/management … delta was in its hey-day when atlantans steeped in delta culture ran the airline. troubles began when the folks from outside started running things. is there a parallel for the braves? guess not, delta hasn’t been a hometown airline in awhile. the braves haven’t had local ownership in awhile.

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

journalist asks well placed source and source says his, “lips are seal-ed”. journalist does not wish to step on toes, but fans have a right to know, is delta influencing roster moves? no one has seen dob byline today so maybe dob is on the story as this journalist types. jimmy smith has heard baby seal humming new song and thanks chop chop for teaching. now, toes …no known toe injuries affecting major league baseball players at this time. now, journalists … jimmy smith is noticing bylines from other journalists in ajc - where is dob? cheese can put you down.

By metsmanintheatl

April 27, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

FLASH!!!with phillies loss braves move in to 2nd place tie by default….MAGIC # 137…GO METS!!!

By hk

April 27, 2006 07:54 PM | Link to this

jimmy,

… Time Warner has not been so bad, I think largely because the synergy with TBS and Sports South has still been there (translation: they’ve still made good money marketing the Braves through those stations) … problem is, TW has had a conflict of interest, in that they are loaded up with other product they need to market through their media outlets as well, in a lot of time slots they were swapping dollars, a problem Ted Turner didn’t have in the old days … so they have gradually surrendered a lot of broadcast time to Fox, ESPN and others … I don’t think Blank would have any such added income, I’ve not seen where Turner South is part of his package, definitely not TBS … on the other hand Liberty, I understand, has all sorts of possible outlets, looks like their deal would be more profitable to run than Arthur’s …

… well, ‘Delta is ready when you are’ and I am pretty sure that Francoeur is ready, but I’m not sure if anybody else is ready, so I’m not sure if Delta is ready or not …

Bob, … don’t know about your ‘looks and ability to cook’, but you’re lookin’ good in the other attributes …

By Carolina Lady

April 27, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this

Flash for journalist Jimmy Smith, [check this out)(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/04/27/rangers.mench.ap/index.html)

By Carolina Lady

April 27, 2006 08:24 PM | Link to this

Sorry, got a wrong character! Trying it again: Click here, Jimmy!

By Bob

April 27, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this

HK, thanks, Mama loved me too.

I loved Delta’s service, good food, and the fact that, in the old days, they let me upgrade to First Class for free … when if wasn’t full.

They put service ahead of price back then.

I went broke doing that too! Seems that most Folks would rather pay $300 for something worth $200 than $400 for something worth $600 … We had an auction when we went out of business … and those some of those same folks well paid over the $600 for what we tried to let them have for $400.

Give The Lady another Gold Star … that’s quite a find!

By journalist jimmy smith

April 27, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

carolina lady is kind to jimmy smith. this article validates everything journalist jimmy smith has been saying about healthy toes!! jimmy smith encourages all bloggers to follow link and read about player’s tremendous comeback from debilitating toe injury. now, dob … he is back today with a stimulating article and he makes liberal use of insightful quotes from uh, chipper jones. read this article for true depth of feeling. now, roster … does no one but jimmy smith smell a fish in the delta deal? wait, baby seal is excited as fish is mentioned. is no one else concerned that delta is making the lineups? now, cheese … journalist is glad to be away from crazy-place milwaukee where cheese is on everything - ice cream, too.

By hk

April 27, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this

Bob,

…my son advised me a while back to add mench to my fantasy team, since then he’s homered in 6 straight games, a grand slam last night … I’m almost out of last place in my league ! (not quite)

… yes, I figure I did the Atlanta to Gatwick (London) maybe 100 times, saw the service gradually change on those flights in the late 80’s, early 90’s …

By Carolina Lady

April 27, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this

Journalist Jimmy Smith - you’re welcome! (Baby seal likes music, huh? :-)) Small mistake, maybe?)

Anyone remember Piedmont Airlines?

By ssiscribe

April 27, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

The honorable Jimmy Smith, journalist: It’s always good to be back on the blog. All that other stuff that I do for a living gets in the way, ha ha.

Speaking of which, where is DOB tonight? I’m making my first trip to Miami next weekend and I need to know where to catch some good music, good food, etc.

Back to the Braves: I doubt Bobby will sit Frenchy, although I would. Not as punishment, but I honestly think the kid is so lost up there, he needs at least one game to sit back and watch. He’s never gonna be a guy who works the count very deep, and his aggressiveness is one of his strengths. The flip side is when things are going poorly, you get a lot of strikeouts and grounders to the left side. Bobby’ll leave him in there and let him hit his way outta it.

Once Renteria gets back into the fold, I think you’ll see the offense kick back into gear again. Giles is struggling, but he’s also been out. Again, unlike so many who are ready to push the panic button, I know what this team is capable of and what this franchise has done in Aprils past.

Two out of three this weekend would really calm down the masses ready to swan dive off the big bridge into the river below. It also would give the Braves a boost. They look like they could use a pick-me-up. Smoltz at home against Pedro in a big-time atmosphere with a big-time crowd could be just what the ballclub needs.

By Penn

April 27, 2006 11:42 PM | Link to this

Here’s a thought for all who enjoy a conspiracy. Let’s suppose things went like this.

1. Time Warner put Braves up for sale.

2. A half dozen potential buyers express interest.

3. MLB cleared four of them for further negotiations.

4. Arthur Blank tried to low-ball TW, trying to cut a better deal than $400 mil after they got $375 mil for the TV set-up.

5. TW balks and Blank announced he was pulling out.

6. TW announced they were in serious talks with one of THEIR largest stockholders for a possible stock swap.

7. Blank, realizing his low ball had been swung at and hit for at least a triple, suddenly got back in the hunt.

8. Next TW announces they can save $100 million in taxes with stock swap deal.

9. Just as suddenly Arthur realizes the price to him has gone from $400 mil to $500 mil.

10. All parties now know the rules of the game. All the gloves have been taken off. Arthur, who wanted the Braves all along comes up with the $500 mil and presto he has himself a baseball team.

11. TW and Liberty meet, go out to dinner and congratulate each other over having worked so well together and how they had pried an additional $100 mil out of Arthur for their corporation, TW.

All is well in Scarlet and Rhett’s town and everyone can go back to sleep, content that those horrible old corporations no longer have their hooks in our Braves.

Arthur finds he is a little short on cash and has to tell JS to tighten up next year and to win the division with a max budget of $75.

Sleep well, :)

By Bob

April 27, 2006 11:55 PM | Link to this

Jimmy Smith, You’re a piece of work … only problem is that I laugh so much … as I “watch you in action” … I miss at least half of the pearls you’re throwing out … I have to read them more than once, that’s for sure!

You’re in the Zone … or like Jerry Reed’s song …”When you’re hot you’re hot” and it seems that you always are. That’s my positive feedback for the day! Even The Lady is finding links to show everybody how smart you are. I know she’s The Lady, but she’s also your cousin … inquiring minds what to know want to know if you put her up to that?

I have an almost serious question for you, or at least like your thoughts on something:

It strikes me that most every time we discuss something on the DOB Blog; whether it talking about the “babe”, Frenchey’s Fieasco, the sale, Chipper, chemistry, attitude, pies, and now toes … it doesn’t really seem to matter what it is … articles start popping up all over the place.

Maybe it’s like when a teacher made me realize how dumb it was to have such a limited vocabulary that I had to rely on 4 letter words … I started learning one new word a day … and was amazed how often I started seeing those words, even in comic strips … when I couldn’t remember ever having seen them before.

Hirsch’s and John Smith … My memory is getting bad but I won’t forget those for a while either!

Speaking of old Atlanta memories, I recall standing outside the old bookstore on the corner of Edgewood (as memory serves) and Houston when a man came up and asked another man, standing by the street sign, “Can you tell me how to get to ‘House-ton’ street?” … his response, “Sorry sir, I have no idea”.

By Bob

April 28, 2006 01:10 AM | Link to this

Penn, I just noticed more sloppiness in my posts … I still blame it on the pain pills but I’m getting a little worried. I have a lot of faults but sloppiness in my “work” never was one of them … of course, with my memory as it is, it might be that I’ve just forgotten.

My real reason for the post was to register my approval of your “well reasoned” foolishness. Sounds like you described an elaborate version of the “long con” … stranger things have been known to happen.

Did you happen to see my sleepytime post where I justified my use of the word associated with the Devil’s place of residence?

You might appreciate that I had intended to inject another bit of Atlanta in that … by saying that our preacher explained to us that it was a lot like Atlanta on Hot August day … the main difference was that it was that way the whole year around!

I just couldn’t find the right words or figure out how to work it in … and it’s not very funny when I try to tell it … but, he had a way of making his point!

Dr. Newton came out of retirement to perform my baby sister’s wedding ceremony and though it had been many years since he had seen us, he still loved his Crackers and even remembered the time I sat on the same row with them during one of the “Cracker day” Services at the church … in 1949, I think.

I remember having a strange sensation and thinking that I was going to drown when he Baptised me, but he calmly explained, in a voice that only I could hear, that I was just having a religious experience and not to worry … he was something else.

By Mark

April 28, 2006 01:15 AM | Link to this

Chipper Jones is voicing the same concerns that that we all can see so far. This team has major holes to fill. The rotation is fine and the bullpen is better than it looks. They are young but incredibly talented. However , This team doesnt have a great leadoff hitter or a lights out closer and you cant win a ballgame from the second to the eighth inning. Without a table setter like furcal to start the game and a closer like Farnsworth this team isnt built for a nine inning game. They have holes , holes Cox is going to have to fill if they are to contend over the next five months.

By Penn

April 28, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

Bob, no problem. I enjoy your messages. Your mention of Dr. Newton brings up memories for me too. As a matter of fact Dr. John Brokhoff performed my wedding at Redeemer Lutheran Church across the street from the Fox back in 1951.

I guess these whippershappers will just have to put up with a bit of our drifting down memory lane. After all it is about our Atlanta in the days when you could walk down a street at night without fearing for your life. My wife used to ride the street car into town for her guitar lessons and then return home —— alone at the age of 9.

Today you can’t let a 9 year old play in her own front yars without keeping an eye on her. What has our world come to when you find it advisable to get a gun permit and carry just to protect your life?

Back to the Braves. It sure was more simple when Earl Mann just ran things and gave us a team that had a chance to win each year. And many times they did but even when they didn’t we still had Country Brown and Gene Verble and Lloyd Gearheart and Ebba St. Clair and Davey Williams to cheer the next year.

We only had Eddie M. for one season but what a glorious season that was, to be able to witness the making of a future hall of famer.

By Carolina Lady

April 28, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

What advice is Jeff receiving from TP and Jordan????

from an AP article on Yahoo: “Francoeur said Pendleton has helped him remain confident.

“He kept saying, ‘What got you here is swinging the bat. Don’t change your approach,’” Francoeur said. “Last year I was swinging at a lot of first pitches, balls in the dirt, but he said, ‘That’s the type of player you are: You play hard and you swing a lot.’ He’s been great, just keeping my confidence up.” “

same article: “”The one thing I feared coming into the season was that he had so much success last season, I wondered if he got off to a slow start how he would handle it,” Jordan said.

“I told him, ‘Your swing is fine and you’re hitting some balls hard and your making plays, so don’t change. Keep going out there being aggressive, swing at the first pitch. I’ve seen you hit too many home runs off those pitches, so don’t change anything.’” “

By gobraves06

April 28, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

What the heck? How is he going to get better when the only advice TP (and Jordan) can give him is to keep being an impatient hitter?! In my opinion, that’s the worst advice Frenchy could receive! What he needs to learn is PATIENCE! He needs to watch patient hitters like Chipper, then he will look at Chipper’s career stats and will get the message. And since when is Jordan a hitting coach (or a good hitter for that matter)?

By Bob

April 28, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

Mark,

I think that I understand where you’re coming from regarding Chipper’s remarks … and I hope you’ll see where I’m headed with them as well.

I’ll go your comments one better and posit that every member of the Braves Organization, from the president to the ball boys; including all the players and members of the various media organizations covering or reporting on the team … shares at least some of the same, or somewhat similiar, feelings and concerns as those we express … when things are going bad.

Fans are expected to opine as they please, with both rational and irrational rants as to why team performance is or isn’t meeting expectations … and expected to offer even less informed opinions as to how to improve what they perceive as unsatisfactory performance. Some fans seem to confuse positing with opining … and then things can really heat up, but those things are expected from fans!

We at least partially understand the fans’ strong expression of their expectations, frustrations, impatience, and sometimes irrational behaviour … since we tal;king about our own collective behaviour and, those of us here, observe it daily on this Blog.

However, most of those other folks have different responsibilities and agendas from those of the fan … and their expected behaviour is subject to a different set of standards.

What is acceptable, expected behaviour for the fan may well be irreponsible and totally unacceptable behaviour for anyone actually connected with the organization.

I would assume that every such member in the organization is well schooled in what constitutes responsible, acceptable behaviour for one in the position they hold.

Sportswriters knowingly reporting irresponsible opinions or outbursts by players, coaches, managers, and other members of the organization’s management team should probably be hung from the rafters for the trouble they cause everybody … but, they usually claim immunity in the name of the public’s right to know!

Consider Bobby Cox as an example …

If Bobby expressed publically some of the same concern’s that we express, he would probably be sent back to his Rocking Chair; never to work again and JS would be fired for not realizing that Bobby had lost it.

Time Warner would be stuck with a valueless Property because nobody wanted it; Chipper would be traded to the Mets for an minor league RightFielder to replace Frenchy who would go to work for Delta in Sweden … and Betemit would finally get to be a regular. I know that some of those outcomes would be fine for some fans … and thouse you take to the rafters too; for the same reasons.

Our comments as fans may carry some weight but the potential impact of rash or irresponsible comments from those close to, or connected with, the organization … can easily adversely inpact people throughout the organization and could prove damaging to the ownership of the franchise.

From what little I saw of Chipper’s comments, it did not appear that he exercised very good judgement in expressing them, especially at this time … and I would not consider that to represent responsible, acceptable behaviour from any player; especially a well established team leader like our Mr. Joines … regardless of the validity of the statements.

By Mr. Met

April 28, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Man, you Braves fans talk a lot of poop when you play the Mets. You get swept by the Brewers, who you deemed nobody’s when the Mets beat them. Now the Mets come to Turner and Hooch field to play you and suddenly you are feeling your oats again. Look, you know deep down in your gut that the tide is changing, you want to keep up the macho front, but just admit it, its starting to look a little grim. I know its only April and I know how the Braves turn it on suddenly and run away every year, but seriously, its not going that way this time. I could care less if the Mets lose this weekend, if the Mets continue to take series after series from everyone else they play they are going to the playoffs. If the Braves only beat the Mets they are not going to the playoffs, I’m I saying something that’s not right here? I’m not trying to trash talk on the Braves or hype the Mets cause, I’m just stating facts. I know the Braves fans like to talk trash about the Mets because of this “thing” the Mets and Braves have, and that’s cool. I for one have become bored with trashing the Braves, the Mets have the big picture in their sights, the playoffs. Be it division title or wild card, it does not matter to them. The division title thing is for the Braves and their fans to worry about. Besides as Braves fans can painfully see winning the division does not mean a world series championship now does it? I mean look at the Mets, they have only won a pultry 5 division titles in their history but they do have 2 World Championships. The percentages is a little better there don’t you think? At any rate, good luck to the Braves this weekend, maybe they can start feeling good about themselves again after beating the Mets, but on the other hand, if they were to lose this weekend that could be just awful for them now wouldn’t it? Being that the Braves put so much stock in their self worth as a dominate team based on beating the Mets. Oh well, lets all just sit back, throw down a cold one and watch ( for the Mets at least)just another early season match up of the New York Mets vs. the Atlanta Braves. Should be a good one don’t you think?

By DrBert

April 28, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Jimmy Smith, Living in Richmond, I can say Delta hasn’t done anything to increase their presence here…doubt that signing Francouer will help, he never even made it here…hmmm, maybe there is a conspiracy…lower air fare flying from AA to Atlanta rather than going via AAA Richmond? Glad the baby seal is doing well, hope he enjoys the game. Take him down to see Mr. Blank, could help him seal a deal to buy the Braves…Make sure you watch what he eats, don’t want him to get Ptomaine poisoning…Have you taught him the song “Popsicle Toes” yet?

By Bob

April 28, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Penn, I sent Mark a note that may get me in trouble with the powers that are … actually, it’s more like a book … take a look if you have the time.

I used to walk/jog from Highland and Carmel (near what I understand is now Carter’s Library) to DownTown 5-Points. Went through some pretty rough areas, even back then, but I was too young and dumb to know any better … did that several times both ways, over a two year period … until one day a group of boys chased me with baseball bats … and I don’t think they were trying to get me to play baseball! I took the trolley after that.

I wonder how many reading your post ever road on a streetcar in Atlanta.

By joe

April 28, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

mr met- please consider using paragraphs or some better spacing when writing, it would be less annoying in reading your posts. OR, you could just post on a mets page- this is a braves page and we don’t like you in our playground, got back to your own neighborhood. however, i invite you to post one more time, but not until september.

By Mr. Met

April 28, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Joe, its “go” back to your own neighborhood, not “got”. Sorry about the paragraph thing, but you get the point right? See you in September Joe.

By Jman

April 28, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

IT IS NOT A MUST SERIES!!! It’s a big early series, but by no means is it a must. You weasels come in here and think you have the right to taunt us! You are 20-54 in Atlanta since 1997! Since we have been at Turner field almost 10 years you have won a grand total of 20 games!!! When you start beating us then you can come in here and talk but not until!!! Last year we were 4-8 on a road trip in May then you guys came to town and we SWEPT you! We won 6 of our next 20! The only bright part of that stretch was playing the Mets in Atlanta and SWEEPING THEM!!! UNTIL YOU UNSEAT US AND ACTUALLY WIN A SERIES IN ATLANTA OR WIN A SERIES AGAINST US IN NEW YORK FOR THAT MATTER YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM TO TALK!!! Why can we talk “poop” because WE OWN YOU!!!

By Mr. Met

April 28, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Jman- there was a lot of “we” and “us ” in your little speech. I’m sorry, what position do you play on the Braves? At any rate, I know how much the Braves fans like to live in the past, this is NOW, and right now the Braves stink. And as the Braves fans as well as the team does what seems like every year, tries to use the Mets to pump themselves up to start to play better. This time the Mets don’t care that its the Braves that they are playing and they don’t care that they have only won 20 games at Tuner and Hooch Field, its just another road game early in the season on they way to the playoffs. I’m sorry that you want to live in the past, I’m sorry you want to make this game or series seem like the end all, but now is now so you keep worrying about “owning us” as the Mets worry about playing baseball in October. PS Jman, 14DT’s - 1WC

By Eric

April 28, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

Where is DOB?

By Jman

April 28, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

I’m living in the past!? Your last WS title was 1986, and how many division titles since? Oh that’s right, but I dont want to bring up the past.

By Bob

April 28, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this

Matt,

I know that you may be confused by the tone and content of my last post to you.

I wasn’t my intent to disagree with you with regard Chipper’s remarks concerning the Braves current performance level and the fact that they to get things turned arround … that was reasonably said and seemed to reflect your post regarding his comments.

My rematks, while reflecting my general opinion, were actually triggered by having read the comments he made conserning the sale of the franchise … which I feel were potentially volatile and would think that players would generally be best advised not to offer public comments.

I realized that my deletion of an example making that clear, because of the length of the post (the example was as long as the post I sent), was a mistake just after my last post to Penn … but my Internet connection has been down until just now.

Let me know your opinion … thanks!

By Bob

April 28, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

Mark! Today’s just one goof after another!

Sorry for the “Matt”

I can’t blame it on Pain Pills todat either.

By TennesseePaul

April 28, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this

Outfielder Onil Joseph was demoted to Myrtle Beach after starting 5-for-32 with 12 strikeouts

Good thing Francoeur isn’t in the minors still. He’d be pushed back down to high A ball with the way he’s playing.

By Mr. Met

April 28, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Jman- Once again you are talking the past, I’m noticing in your messages how you fail to talk about the recent poor play by the Braves going into this series. Its nothing the Mets can do about the last time they won a world series, those players are no longer around. It’s up to Delgado and Wright and Reyes and Pedro and Glavine to take care of business for the 2006 team. Last I checked only Cox and Smoltz are around from the Braves last championship. Maybe you should ask them if they care when was the last time the Mets won a championship. As for winning a series be it in Atlanta or New york, I personally don’t care as long as the Mets get to the post season is all that matters. See, that’s the difference between Brave fans and Mets fans, the Met fan sees the big picture not these little battles in April. The Brave fan needs these series to feel good about themselves, the Met fan is just ready to win all the time, not just a weekend against Atlanta. Maybe Jman you should try reading a Mets website or fan page to see the Met fan does not trash the Braves, the smart Met fan really respects what the Braves have done, but the same fan also sees the tide is starting to shift and when these two teams meet later in the season those series will have a very different feel than what they have in the past. Good luck this weekend I hope you get out of this weekend what you need to get your team going.

By gobraves06

April 28, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Last I checked only Cox and Smoltz are around from the Braves last championship.

Mr. Met, you are forgetting that Chipper Jones was also a part of the 1995 team.

By TennesseePaul

April 28, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this

the Met fan sees the big picture not these little battles in April
Not so sure about that Mr.Met. Seems a lot of Mets fans come into this blog and start sh!t talkin’ at the start of the series. Seem to recall NY Headlines prior to and after game one of the last series making it out to be a big deal. Stuff like “Who’s the Boss” and so forth.

By Kerry

April 28, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Mr. Met,

You’ll have to forgive US Braves fans, the reason WE look forward to beating the Mets so much is because WE realize that the Mets are OUR biggest competition for the division this year. Sure, WE have started off the season not playing up to OUR championship level, but every team goes through a slump during the season. WE will get things turned around soon and be vying for 1st place by June, if not sooner. WE realize it’s a long season but divison games mean a lot and after May WE don’t play the Mets again until late July. Can you blame US for wanting to beat you while we can?

By TennesseePaul

April 28, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

The last series with the Mets was huge. Had we not taken the series and smeared the Mets with 2 straight complete games, we would be somewhere around 10 games out of first right now. That would have left us this weekend with attempting to claw our way back to 7 games out if we sweep. That’s quite a hill to climb this early in the season. This series is just as big and will present a similar situation if we should faulter. We must take at least 2 out of 3.

Let’s do this Braves!

By Penn

April 28, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

Why did Mut fans start calling ?Chipper “Larrreeeeeee?” Surely it was not because they love him. I think they were trying to rattle him because he has single handedly chopped them to pieces the last few years. Oh, those short memories.

By Dubya Cubed

April 28, 2006 07:58 PM | Link to this

Way to go Frenchy. Get him on the first bus too Richmond. I haven’t given up on him, I just want him to go get better and stop costing us now. I’m sick of hearing about how maybe he can’t hit but makes up for it in the field.

By Dubya Cubed

April 28, 2006 08:00 PM | Link to this

“to” not “too”. I promise I’m not dumn.

By Dubya Cubed

April 28, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

LaWhiff

Wow, Frenchy took one.

By teoa

April 28, 2006 09:05 PM | Link to this

It’s way past time to break up the Black Hole in the batting order that is LaDouche and Frenchy…can’t believe Langer got demoted back to the 8th spot after hitting almost .300 up to this point…is it really too much to ask for Bobby to have some sort of reaction to what he sees on the field?

By TheSouthernJackAss

April 28, 2006 09:19 PM | Link to this

aahhhhhhhhhh!!!…“The CURSE of the SOUTHERNJACKASS lives on!!!……I live for this!!!…GO METS!!!…**

By teoa

April 28, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

Is there any doubt who the worst closer in baseball is? Reitsma hands down.

What about the worst starting first baseman? LaDouche has to be pretty high up in that category.

How about worst backup first baseman? Brian Jordan, easy.

This Braves team just has far too many holes to be good. No leadoff hitter, automatic outs in the 5 and 6 spots, no bullpen, pitching is worse all around without Leo, closer is a joke, etc, etc.

If the Braves could only manage to go .500 during what will probably be their best week of hitting for the year, this is looking like it could be a long year.

Oh well, look at the bright side…at least they’re going to save the billionaires in Colorado a few million in taxes. And the worst announcers in sports are going to get some more work on Turner South…wait, is there a bright side?

By Alan

April 28, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this

No more Reitsma. No more Pratt. I don’t give a damn who they get in there, I just never want to see them again. Hell, bat Sheurholz’s kid. How could Bobby sit McCann for Pratt?!?!!?! Show some confidence in your youngster instead of giving the game to some in-and-out journeyman who couldn’t even make contact with the freakin’ ball!

Oh, and whatever happened to that extra money we had lying around during spring training when we unsuccessfully shopped for a real closer? Get anybody in there instead of Chris “I’ve got an 85 mph heater with ABSOLUTELY no movement whatsoever” Reitsma. Sutton’s going to be out of a job soon - what kind of shape is he in?

By Blake

April 28, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

Todd Pratt pinch hitting, I love Bobby but what the hell? WE should have let Bobby Dews hit instead

By Blake

April 28, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

No, but seriously had Wilson Betemit already hit and I missed it. Why not him?

By Miles

April 28, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

WTF Bobby???? Pratt for McCann, are you facking serious???!!!! Hell, if you were that concerned about a left handed bat going up against Wagner why not have Bettemit pinch hit???? He’s a switch hitter for gods sake!!!

And I’ve had it with “REEKSMA”. I used to think he could perhaps be a decent 8th inning guy but I now doubt that he can even do that. He just plain sucks at pitching and he’e being paid 4 MILLION to stink up the joint! 4 MILLION DOLLARS people!!!!!! wow, how does someone get paid that much money to suck????

By Mr. Met

April 28, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this

I will responsed to each statement direct to Mr. Met.

gobraves06- Chipper Jones, yes I try to block him out, but I do remember that he was on that last championship team.

TennesseePaul- Well, I’m not in this blog to talk trash with Braves fans. I’m just saying what true NY METS fans are saying right now. The media hypes these meeting between the Mets and Braves, the current Mets team doesn’t really know too much about the so called “rivalry” and the “not being able to win at Tuner Field” thing and the true and knowledgeable Met fan is banking on just that fact. I thought this was what the blogs were for, to expand the thoughts of people on both sides of an issue so we can understand where the other one is coming from.

Kerry- Thank you for your intelligent and thoughtful response to my comments. When I look at what you said from your prospective as a true Braves fan it makes a whole lot of sense to look at this series that way. Thanks again, you are a true fan.

Penn- How in the world can a true Mets fan forget how Larry Jones has tormented the Mets…But not tonight…Strike Three, he goes down swinging!!!

See you tomorrow, game 2.

Atlanta, Good Night! (a quote from MLB06 the show)

By teoa

April 29, 2006 01:52 AM | Link to this

I missed the end of the game…Can someone tell me if Renteria could have scored on Frenchy’s hit? In other words, is this loss all on Reeksma?

I am convinced he will cost the Braves 10-15 games this year. Baez is making the front office look more stupid by the day. I think it was worth sending Davies to the D-Rays — no starting pitcher can win on this team unless they go 9. What’s the point of having a good young starting pitcher that goes 6-7 when there is no one in the pen who gives the Braves a chance to hold the lead? And the so-called “closer” is probably the worst of them all!

And pinch hitting Pratt in the 9th with the bases loaded is just classic no-logic Bobby Cox. Can anyone make an argument for that move? I can’t think of a single reason why that was a good idea. I would have rather him just wave a white flag and not waste anyone’s time.

By ilovemarcusgiles

April 29, 2006 02:12 AM | Link to this

i am so sick of reitsma, its unfreakingbelievable how much one player can suck….ughhhhh and what was with todd pratt swinging at two pitches in the dirt and then watching the next one whizz right down the middle? isnt he supposed to know how to take pitches, being a 38 year old veteran and all?…i just wish frenchy would follow chippers example of taking pitches rather than some old catcher who is way past his prime on the brighter side, renteria has a 13 game hit streak and smoltzie pitched his way out of some really tight spots…hopefully we’ll play much better tomorrow though. if not, these mets fans will be all up in our faces fo sho

By Penn

April 29, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

Like this Braves fan has been trying to tell you. Don’t get out on such a long limb by knocking the Muts. Minaya has done a great job putting together a good team. LoDuca far outclasses Piazza at this point in their careers. LoDuca will bunt and he can throw out runners, two things Piazza wouldn’t or couldn’t do for years.

And Cox doesn’t put on a shift for many but he does for Delgado, a professional hitter.

When the Muts go into the ninth with a lead you mark it down in the standings as a W. When the Braves go into the 9th with a lead (an unusual occurrence) you pray.

If the Braves are going anywhere this year they are going to have to fix first base, right field and find a closer. That is 1/3 of the team and unless they fix it we’ll be lucky to finish 3rd.