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Dooley: Kiffin ‘has a lot to learn’
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Evil Genius talked big, too. The difference was, Steve Spurrier had already won something before he arrived in the SEC. (Like an ACC championship - at Duke.)
Lane Kiffin’s record as a head coach is 5-15. And yet he has, in two-plus months at Tennessee, managed to come off as the biggest smart aleck ever to hit the conference that eventually humbles everybody.
It will be great fun watching him lose.
In two-plus months Kiffin has taken shots at Nick Saban (who has one national championship to Kiffin’s none), jousted with Spurrier (one national championship) and suggested the only reason Mark Richt (two SEC titles) landed prized recruit Marlon Brown was because of Brown’s grandmother. And then, the morning after Signing Day, Kiffin wrongly accused Urban Meyer (two national championships) of cheating. (Kiffin has since admitted two recruiting violations of his own.) Some Act 1, huh?
“He’s young and aggressive,” said Vince Dooley, who was younger and no less aggressive than the 33-year-old Kiffin when he became Georgia’s coach. And then, after one of those studied Dooley pauses for effect, he said: “And he has a lot to learn.”
It’s one thing to try and win - every coach does that - but quite another to show no respect for your elders (and, simply on the record, your betters). Kiffin’s brashness has played well in Big Orange Country, where the shoved-aside Phillip Fulmer was seen as too dull and deferential, but it will play rather less well on autumn Saturdays. As we know, Tennessee faces Alabama and Florida and South Carolina and Georgia every blessed year.
“As long as you win, people seem to like whatever type of personality you have,” Dooley said.
But Kiffin, it was noted, hasn’t won a game as a collegiate head coach.
Said Dooley, laughing: “That’s what I mean.”
Maybe Meyer felt the same way about the SEC when he plopped down in Gainesville, fresh off an undefeated season at Utah. Maybe he felt his spread offense would wreak immediate havoc upon his new realm. But he lost four games in his first season at Florida and four more in his third, and even in the glow of his two national titles the message seems clear: This league leaves scars on every hot young coach.
Spurrier lost his first game against Tennessee and Johnny Majors 45-3. Saban lost four games his first season at LSU and six his first year at Alabama. Richt was outsmarted at the end of his first SEC game by the rascal Lou Holtz. Les Miles, he of the gratuitous fake kicks, lost his first SEC title game to Georgia and Richt by 20 points.
Back to Spurrier: In the ’90s he came as close as anybody ever will to ruling the SEC in the post-Bear era, but his domination wasn’t transferable. In four seasons at Carolina he has lost five more conference games than he did in 12 years at Florida. He’s the same smart guy, but he’s no longer the scourge of Southern football. The league unsettles the meek and the proud alike.
“I was a young fellow,” said Dooley, who was 31 when he became Georgia’s coach, “and Doug Dickey [then at Tennessee] and I would just sit in the corner close together [at league meetings]. You had Bear Bryant and Johnny Vaught and Shug Jordan - we were intimidated by those guys.”
Understand: Dooley wasn’t so cowed he couldn’t beat those legends. (He would win six SEC titles.) But he knew better than to rile rivals unnecessarily. Kiffin has gone miles out of his way to tick off his. Meyer and Saban mightn’t have known Lane Kiffin from Lois Lane three months ago, but they know him now.
“There’s a learning curve,” said Dooley, laughing again. “Definitely.”
It will be great fun watching Lane Kiffin learn.
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By I'll show you classy
February 10, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
I wonder how many timeouts Meyer will call in the final seconds against Kiffin? Class acts, those two.
By Bernie
February 10, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
Lane Kiffin = the only person on Earth that could make Al Davis look like a coherent, knowledgable and cogent NFL owner.
By Bernie
February 10, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this
Lane Kiffin = the only person on Earth that could make Al Davis look like a coherent, knowledgable and cogent NFL owner.
Bernie’sDawgBlawg
By Jborodawg
February 10, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be great if Vowels fans, boosters, admin and Knoxville pundits just leave ol’ Lane alone…and watch him learn his lessons…the hard way. I’d love to see em continue to give him free reign; only to be jerked back like a dense dog out on a long chain.
I know, that’s mean-spirited.
By baloney
February 10, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this
Gosh, just think if he wins big in his first season and second season. Think how that will get under the skin of fellow SEC coaches. Heck, think how it would be even if he beats UGA the first season.
By anotherdawg
February 10, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this
Great column, but I think Saban was coach at LSU when UGA defeated them for SEC.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 11:26 AM | Link to this
Nope. It was Les Miles. Saban beat Georgia in the 2003 SEC title game and lost to Georgia in Athens in 2004. Then he left for Miami.
By Brian22
February 10, 2009 11:27 AM | Link to this
WHO CARES?
By Houdawg
February 10, 2009 11:27 AM | Link to this
Bernie …… you make some great points.
Kiffin comes across as a ” silver spoon ” jerk that’s had things come easy in his life. With his father a prominent DC throughout, it’s probably not too far off the mark. He’s definitely a punk ….. will be interesting to watch this unfold. Here’s guessing that the TEAM will pay for his ignorance, especially the first season. Thank God Garner had the foresight to not go there …….
By The Ole Ball Coach
February 10, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this
The Lane train is now known as Rocky Lane….. He will beat Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina his first year and will sing Rocky top all night long…….
By bill
February 10, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this
Hey classy how many penalty flags were thrown on Meyer during those two timeouts.How many flags were thrown in the incident that caused Meyer to take the timeouts?
Take off your poodle glasses and enter the real world.
By John C.
February 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this
What’s the problem? I think this guy is absoulely true to color : ) I sit back with my gator, cocks and tide buddies and relish the thoughts of this jerk attempting success in the SEC. I hope the Big Orange crowd continues to think thi guy “plays well” with his actions. Remember where hs is from………class will never be a quality of L. Kiffin. MARK THESE WORDS……….HE WILL NOT LAST TWO YEARS!!! Sad, I wish he would be there forever!!
By RonnieGarDner
February 10, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this
Didn’t James Donnan go to UT and hire away it’s “best” recruiter? (Ronnie GarDner) Maybe Kiffin was trying to do the same thing, take a teams best recruiter. GarDner will leave soon and my guess it would have been Auburn except for the fact Chizik was afraid of hiring his replacement so soon.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
Lane Kiffin reminds me of Jim Mora (the younger), and not in a nice way — also young, also arrogant, also the son of a coach.
By DawgGirl32
February 10, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this
If he’s saying this kind of stuff NOW, what kind of nonsense will he be saying come fall and when his team loses? I mean, he’s not only ticked off the rival schools; he’s said stuff about how his recruiting class is no where near where it needs to be. What does that say to the kids you just recruited??? And all that stuff about Nu’keese Richardson’s highschool?? Ridiculous. Someone needs to wire his mouth shut for a while and let his daddy do all the talking.
By woodpecker
February 10, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this
DawgGirl32….perhaps it is you that should wire their mouth shut.
By GATORZONE
February 10, 2009 11:52 AM | Link to this
Just win something before doing all of the talking!
This guy is a loose cannon who is setting UT up for an embarrassing season riddled with several blowouts. The first will be on september 19th!
By GATORZONE
February 10, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this
Dawggirl, I agree. What good are you doing to yourself by talking down to one of the most premier HS programs in Florida?
By longtimeSEC FAN
February 10, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this
To Bill: WELL PUT ”’ Dawgs can remember the perfectly legal payback but their “convenient Memories” forget the illegal act that brought it on. Kiffin will find out like M.R. did
By CrimsonRedScarlett
February 10, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this
This is mild compared to Finebaums’s column today. By the way, Finebaum is a Tennessee alumnus.
By toad
February 10, 2009 12:02 PM | Link to this
Looks like you guys are scard if your teams are so good then why write about kiffin wright about them. You guys just seem scard to me that is all. If kiffin goes to the bathroom and says anything it will be on youtube the next day. I wonder what Myer and Saban say to their boosters. Maybe it needs to be on ESPN to.
By Otto
February 10, 2009 12:07 PM | Link to this
Maybe UT will pass UGA as the most penalized team. Never tick off the SEC front office. UGA penalties went up beginning with the game after the End Zone celebration and have not gone down.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this
toad, go to school…any school, and learn how to write a paragraph. That was painful for anyone that is educated to read. Anyway, Kiffin isn’t doing himself or the Vol fans any favors by behaving this way. His inexperience is shining through and the SEC is not the place to expect a long learning curve. Kiffin won’t last long!
By Patriots Act
February 10, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this
You cant just write the names on the roster and indicate their position and expect to be a sports writer. You also cant just keep saying, “time will tell if this works”. You cant just know about game management, and the value of a time out. You cant make onomatopoeia when you leer at cheerleaders, either. Sports can be a bond between men. Dont ruin it.
By Daniel
February 10, 2009 12:13 PM | Link to this
Lane, shut the Hell up and try to be a good coach. You are coming off as an unqualified, privileged, spoiled brat!
By Mac
February 10, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this
WGOW in Chattanooga has a sports talk show in the afternoons and they love this Kiffin schtick and talk about “getting on the Lane Train.” One of their biggests likes is that Kiffin is getting UT talked about nationally.
What they cannot grasp is that nationally, they are seen as having a coach who is an immature jerk, who doesn’t know the rules and who lips off while having accomplished exactly squat.
Hey, if you want to celebrate that, go ahead. I look forward to celebrating what I hope will be Kiffin beatdowns at the hands of the SEC’s truly accomplished coaches.
Excellent point, Mark, about Spurrier arriving having won an ACC title … at Duke.
By Vol4ever
February 10, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this
You guys are worrying about Kiffin a lot……I would too if I were you. Yep he has spouted off a little BUT he has put fire back into the Tennessee program. Monte is just as fired up as his son. So quite worrying about the Kiffin’s UT will be just fine. I can’t wait to call you on this article Mark Bradley, talk with you next year.
By Huh?
February 10, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this
This little circus side show is playing over well with the hillbilly faithful now, but once the games get started they will be expecting BIG things. This idiot is setting himself up for failure. Tennessee football is finished.
By Heath
February 10, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this
Hey everyone (and Mark Bradley too)…go to google and search for NCAA secondary violations. I did this last night and the first result was UGA committing 14 in 2007…My point is (what Mark Bradley failed to mention) that secondary violations occur very often and are hardly given any attention by the media until now. Lane is a breath of fresh air in my opinion unlike some of these other coaches that give you the ususal coach speak. Just my two cents.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this
Otto, I agree 100%. UGA did make a lot of stupid personal fouls this year but there were a LOT of unwarranted flags last year. It’s amazing that we won ten games with that many penalties. You can’t beat good teams and the refs too. Hopefully, they’ll be over it by next season.
By Jolly Rogers
February 10, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this
He may be arrogant and a complete moron, but I bet Lane Kiffin is still smarter than Michael Vick or the average person still professing to be a “Vick Supporter.”
By TrippDawg
February 10, 2009 12:21 PM | Link to this
How does a guy who has a 5-15 record as a head coach and has done absolutely nothing in the SEC rate running his mouth. Nobody has anything to fear from a coach who hasn’t proven anything as a head coach except how to run his big mouth. As has been said before, win something, then talk.
By longtimeSEC FAN
February 10, 2009 12:21 PM | Link to this
to CrimsonRedScarlet: where is Finebaum column published???By nomemata
February 10, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this
Lame Kitten has the Viles stoked! Urban and Nick have been put on notice!
Nick goes to Memphis and signs his first 2010 recruit the day after Lame Kitten and Lance “Your Cheatin’ Heart” Thompson declare that Memphis is off-limits, and Saban will never score there again!
Urban and Pahokee are hacked. I wonder how many timeouts the Gators will have left in the 4th quarter this September?
Lame Kitten… the Official Blunder Boy of the SEC! Vile Nation, take yer lumps with character, if you have any.
By ThaMan
February 10, 2009 12:25 PM | Link to this
If I were Lane Kiffin, my only concern would be what Tennessee thought of me. I think bad blood between teams is good for the game. And what better way to stir up bad blood than for the coach to jaw jack other teams! Keep It Up Lane!
By GW
February 10, 2009 12:27 PM | Link to this
But have you seen Lane’s wife?
By Preston
February 10, 2009 12:30 PM | Link to this
oops! meant to say “a LOT of unwarranted flags as well.”
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this
Mark,
Very well written article.
Elane’s mouth has definitely added fuel to the fire and put a big bullseye on his team. They had a chance after a bad season to sneak up on some people and maybe pull a surpise. You can count on the gators looking to put up 60 on ole Rocky Top in the swamp. I can’t wait to watch that one. And you can bet we’ll be anxiously awaiting his arrival in Tuscaloosa also.
One other thing this brash young man hasn’t factored. In recruiting there will be many scenarios where a recruit has an offer from several of the major programs. For example, a kid may have an offer from UT, Bama, Fla., UGA, and an out of conference team like maybe Clemson, etc. You can absolutely guarantee that if one of the offended sec coaches can’t get the recruit or if he fills his need with another recruit at that position that he will do his utmost to steer that recruit away from UT and towards either a different sec team or an out of conference team. For example, if a recruit tells Saban or Meyer he’s really narrowed it down to UT, UGA, and Clemson you can bet the farm that Saban or Meyer would probably put in their last 2 cents to tell the kid he’s better off at UGA or Clemson than at UT. Anybody but UT. The ole “Go anywhere but there young man routine.” This is going to happen more than you think.
By 2N4YEARS
February 10, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this
Funny how you don’t hear a lot out of TENN fans about the stupidity of their new coach. Wait until they drop another 5-6 games next year (getting blown-out in at least 2 or 3), then you’ll hear all of the cries from ole Rocky-Top. lol…what a joke for a coach.
By RJ
February 10, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this
Who cares….the best coach in the south is now resides in Atlanta. Go Jackets!
By RS
February 10, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this
I wonder how many times Richt will empty the bench with illegal enzone celebrations against Kiffin? Class acts, those two.
By Spike
February 10, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this
I don’t like Tenneessee and I hate the Gators and Meyer, but I can’t wait for that game in the Swamp next September!! Anybody got any extra tickets?
By Lee in Tennessee
February 10, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this
Speaking as a Dawg fan living in Orange Country, I can say that most of the UT faithful I’ve talked to are fired up by this guy and his antics. When I express my Dawgitude to a Vol fan, he usually compares some of Kiffin’s “motivational strategies” to the excessive celebration UGA pulled on Gaturds in 2007.
The main difference between the two situations, however, is the national perceptions of the two coaches. Mark Richt is mild-mannered, considerate, and an all-around good guy. I haven’t seen anything on Kiffin in the national media that has portrayed him as such. It seems most think he’s a spoiled son-of-a-coach. Kiffin’s “strategies” are designed to motivate, but like most of you, I think they are going to come back to bite him in the orange butt.
By the way, Mark, great comparison to Jim Mora, Jr.
By Expert
February 10, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this
Somebody needs to forward Coach Kiffin the schedule. Tennessee will be doing good to win 7 games next year. I personally don’t think they have a snowball’s chance in hell at beating Florida, Bama, or Georgia. Tennessee is light years behind these programs right now so take those off the table. Playing at Ole Miss will be no picnic either. I’ll put that one in the L column. Auburn, South Carolina, Vandy, and Kentucky are toss ups. If Tennessee splits those its at 2-6. Assuming it goes undefeated out of conference (BIG assumption considering the hell UCLA gave them last year), Tennesee is looking at a 6-6 season and all that big talk is going to look VERY foolish. Just my opinion.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this
Thanks, Bama.
One thing Steve Spurrier’s experience at South Carolina has proved: You can’t outsmart anybody in this league, at least not for long.
And I know Kiffin was part of the staff at USC (the one in LA), but there’s only a slight resemblance between the Pac-10 and the SEC. Everybody takes football seriously in this conference.
By Tech Man in Dawg Country
February 10, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this
I agree with all of the comments about Kiffin’s comments about Surrier, Saban, or Meyer. However, I am not sure how you bring Richt into this, simply because Kiffin tried to hire Rodney Garner. Every new coach wants the best staff he can get, and it is widely recognized that Garner is one of the best. If you can get him, it not only strengthens his program, but subtracts from UGA. I think that is sound business practice. That said, Kiffen has a lot to learn. To have him have to be called out for his own violations immediately after falsely accusing Meyer was just too much.
By baloney
February 10, 2009 12:46 PM | Link to this
Yea, Fulmer was considered mild mannered too. See where that got him don’t you?
By 7
February 10, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this
Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Preston
February 10, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this
Mark, when is Orsen Charles going to announce his decision and do you have any info on the matter?
By Lee in Tennessee
February 10, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this
Baloney,
It got him a national championship, a 14-year career at the same school (a rare feat these days), and one of the best quarterbacks in SEC history in Peyton.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 12:56 PM | Link to this
Mark, same question in regards to Geathers.
By bigstack19
February 10, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this
Give Kiffin a break. He is just trying to fire up a listless fan base in Big Orange country. He and Tennessee basketball coach Bruce Pearl have similar personalities and many around Knoxville think Pearl is the best thing to happen to UT basketball since Ernie and Bernie. If Kiffin can duplicate that success in his first couple of years at Tennessee he will be a God in Knoxville. If not, he will be gone before you know it.
By Clamor
February 10, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this
Thanks, CrimsonRedScarlet. You are one of the few I ever have seen post on any blog who knew the difference between alumnus and alumni.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this
I don’t, Preston. Sorry.
By baloney
February 10, 2009 1:10 PM | Link to this
Lee, my point was referring to Richt being a nice guy.IMHO Fulmer should not have been let go. He got a bad deal. It will be interesting to see if people will wish he was still the coach after a few seasons of Kiffin.
By cursive
February 10, 2009 1:14 PM | Link to this
IF, and it is a big if, Kiffin is to have any success at Tennessee it will be because of his Dad and the outstanding defensive schemes that he will bring with him. I don’t think that Kiffin will last, especially without getting some better recruiting going.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 1:18 PM | Link to this
And I thought that’s why Tennessee hired Kiffin and his Dream Team staff — so the Vols could win at recruiting.
Maybe they will. But it’s never been easy to recruit at UT — too few players instate.
By jim
February 10, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this
You’ve got to admit Lane sure has a way of pulling fans together…meaning all the SEC fans are unanimously against him. Heck I’ll even pull for Auburn against that jerk.
Roll Tide
By steve
February 10, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this
Most everyone was all over Al Davis with the way he fired Kiffin and called him a lunatic and a lier. I guess for once, Al Davis was correct. We’re sorry Al, you were right!
By Too Easy
February 10, 2009 1:26 PM | Link to this
Hey, I know all about alumna and alumnae.
By gtforever
February 10, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this
Phillip Fulmer was a good coach! I hope UT loses EVERY game they play next year…. They had a sorry excuse to fire a good coach. Period!
By Mac
February 10, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
Again, let Kiffin talk after he has accomplished anything. Pearl arrived with a record of accomplishment and he hasn’t trashed his conference brethren.
Right now, Kiffin can’t carry Pearl’s jock strap.
By Too Easy
February 10, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this
And don’t get me started on aluminum.
By Denver dog
February 10, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this
Good article Mark,
I’m one of the few who remember Dooley’s first year, and his last.
I also reported that Kiffin had some violations going on, and all the Vol’s fans disclaimed it, called me names and asked for proof. Well, Kiffin stated the proof, and who knows what he hasn’t reported.
He may come in a be the best we’ve ever seen, but let’s let him prove it with his teams first. Good luck to him and the Vols
Go Dogs!
By TommyGator
February 10, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this
The Lame Kitten is in for a wake up call that will last from August through November. UT will NOT be playing in December. He will bring more embarrassment to Knoxville than the big orange nation can imagine. He has asked for every rival to kick his butt into the middle of next year and he will get it.
The vile-in-tears love his act, but they won’t like the consequences. He will be gone before the end of year three.
By DougDickey
February 10, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this
Too few players in state at Tenn. That is all the more reason to believe that Fulmer did a “decent” job.I mean think of the win streak (s) against UGA.You could say either he had great talent or he was a good coach, or a good motivator, or made good adjustments at halftime (see the 2006 UGA game). But there is no way he could have been a decent coach. Is there? I mean how did he do it, no instate players to speak of. Throw in the fact the team wears orange. Plus nobody wants to live in Tennessee.Plus Tennessee has never been any good in any sport in their entire existence. Heck everyone should just go to UGA where NC’s are as common as good peanuts.
By Cuz
February 10, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this
Poor General Neyland, from Phat Phil to Klassless Kiffin. What is a Vol fan to do. Guess I will belong to the keep Mark Richt group. Even though he has not won that precious MNC and as such has to be branded a certified loser as head coach.
By SOUTHGADAWG88
February 10, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this
Considering the amount of money these coaches are making now in the SEC the intensity level has been raised 3 or 4 notches.With the ESPN contract coming up there will be even more cash thrown at the league.Kiffen understands that he has at MOST 4 years to get it done at TENN.It doesn’t really matter rather this guy p** people off or they think he is a nice guy.Tenn is a program with a history of success and if he can’t produce on the field he is outta there.Personally I am of the mindset that recruiting is the key difference in the won/loss records of the major programs in the SEC.I don’t consider Urban Meyer a better coach than Saban,Miles,Spurrier,Richt etc but he has shown so far the ability to bring in premier recruiting classes.The thing about the coaches who have won National Championships from the SEC is this EVERYONE had at least one top 3 ranked recruiting class and I’m talking not just overall size but quality ie star ranking.I don’t care about other conferences even though USC,Texas did well with their top ranked classes.Look back LSU AND FLA brought home 2 titles off of their bigtime classes from 03 LSU and 06 for FLA.CMR has done well but his 3 ranked 02 class didn’t pan out..most of the kids either didn’t make it to the field or did not pan out with the exception of Golston,Pope and Moses.So UGA has been good not great.Look out for ALA and LSU in the next 3 seasons as they have done well.At the end of the day he who gets the best players usually wins.So if the guy can recruit he will make a major impact like it or not
By lawzoo
February 10, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this
“The Lane Train?” Should be “The Lane Train Wreck.”
When Monte Kiffen coached at N.C. State, he turned in Danny Ford(Clemson) for good reasons.
Lane better learn from Daddy ,that you better not write checks with your mouth that your butt can’t cash.
By lawzoo
February 10, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this
“The Lane Train?” Should be “The Lane Train Wreck.”
When Monte Kiffen coached at N.C. State, he turned in Danny Ford(Clemson) for good reasons.
Lane better learn from Daddy ,that you better not write checks with your mouth that your butt can’t cash.
By Knuckle Sandwich
February 10, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this
Also young, also arrogant, but more of a son of a b!+ch than Mora.
By Knuckle Sandwich
February 10, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this
Also young, also arrogant, but more of a son of a b!+ch than Mora.
By DawginLex
February 10, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this
The only thing CPJ is good at is being obnoxious. Turning around and pointing at the stands after winning will cause HUGE PAYBACK down the road.
After all of Gailey’s recruits are gone, he will have trouble getting a winning record.
Kiffin is in WAY over his head. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch considering the way they treated Fulmer.
By bobbydawg
February 10, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this
We have a little saying down here: “Do it, then talk about it!”
By PTC DAWG
February 10, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this
I think it’s funny myself. Let the kid shoot off at the mouth.
I’ll be SHOCKED, just flat out shocked, if UT doesn’t fire this band of clowns within 4 years. :)
By GSUHatchAttack
February 10, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this
Ill show you classy,
Thats about as classy as a 51-7 win over GT isnt it? Karma is a B1t.ch isnt it?
Go Jackets!!
By blue
February 10, 2009 2:06 PM | Link to this
Preston; I am so sorry that the refs conspired against UGA, cheated, and that you had to play against the other teams and the officials. That was a daunting task. I’m worried about you; let me call the WAHHHmbulance.
By Houdawg
February 10, 2009 2:15 PM | Link to this
Hey GSU …… I was lucky to be there for the 51-7 win & the 46-8 win in ‘68 …… ahhh ….. loved ‘em both ! And by the way , in the 2002 game … it was 2nd; 3rd stringers ( & the water-boy ) from 4Q on ….. quit your b1t.chin’
By Lame Duck Lane
February 10, 2009 2:16 PM | Link to this
PTC DAWG,
I couldn’t disagree with you more. You are way too generous. I think Kiffin will be gone in 2-3 years because at this pace of gaffs I don’t see how he could possibly make it 4 years. But I hope you are right and that I’m wrong because then that would just be 4 years of fun wondering what the guy is gonna say next.
I’m a Bama fan and the most influential instate columnist instate that covers Bama football is Paul Finebaum. He is a Tennessee alumnus. As a Tennesse alumnis he is calling for Kiffin’s ouster today in his column. It would be expensive for Tennessee but they could turn right around and get Jon Gruden who is now available.
We can all debate how good a coach Gruden is but there is absolutely no disputing that he is a vast upgrade over Kiffin going by record alone. Gruden also has Tenn. ties. Gruden was 38-26 with the raiders and won a super bowl with the Bucs. Kiffin was 5-15 with the raiders as we all know.
There is precedent for firing a coach for being really embarrassing and using utterly poor judgement. Bama fired Mike Price a couple months after he took the job because of the embarrassing fiasco he had in Pensacola. If I were Tenn. I would seriously consider canning him now if in fact they could immediately bring in Gruden. But I am after all a Bama fan so I do hope he stays. He’s been hilarious after only 2 months. Just imagine how much fun he would be over several years.
By JackP
February 10, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this
I wish Vince Dooley would just shut up. Your opinions and stories from the past are totally worthless. We no longer want to hear from you or anything about you.
By GATORZONE
February 10, 2009 2:23 PM | Link to this
JackP, even I think that statement is ridiculous!
By Sarcastic Dawg
February 10, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this
Yeah, nobody cares what Vince Dooley has to say. That’s why Mark Bradley interviewed him for a piece that has now generated 80 responses in just under 4 hours. You are a freaking genius JackP. You really showed us.
rolls eyes
By hem o'roid
February 10, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this
DAWGINLEX AND BOBBYDOG PLAYING IN THE LOFT—DAWGINLEX ATE ALL BOBBYDOGS DINGLEBERRIES OFF! Bwahahahahahah—45 to 42—take it and learn to like you dogterds!
By how2fish
February 10, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this
2 years and Vol fans will know what they are missing..Fulmer won the SEC East in 07…My bet is Lane NEVER does..
By Preston
February 10, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this
JackP is obviously a UGA hater that should leave this blog immediately. Vince Dooley is a very well respected member of the Bulldog Nation and anything he has to say is valuable to us. Get a life JackP and good riddance!
By Ted Striker
February 10, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this
Kiffin seems to be a glowing example of the Peter Principle. No double entendre intended, but take it — no extra charge.
The guy who’s happiest these days that he didn’t accept an administrative position with Tennessee? Phil Fulmer.
Nice insight from Dooley, who’s sometimes as dry as a stale potato chip but has as much experience and knowledge as anyone in college athletics. One day, the real story about why Adams wanted him gone will come out…and it’s going to surprise a few folks. The trump card was never actually played.
By Top Dawg
February 10, 2009 2:39 PM | Link to this
Did LSU beat the mess out of Tech or what?
By Spike
February 10, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this
JackP I wish you would shut up. Your opinions andabout Vince Dooley are totally worthless. We no longer want to hear from you or anything about you.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this
hem o’roid is right! You do seem to linger around and annoy a lot longer than needed. You’re a techie with nothing exciting to say except that your team won one out of eight. Join JackP in exile loser!
By blue
February 10, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this
Top Dawg; I think one of the most pathetic things I see in blogs are when a fan of a certain school has to try to make fun of their in-state rival by using a THIRD PARTY’S beating of them because that fan’s school couldn’t do it. “Hey tech; we really showed you this year by LSU beating the hell out of you”. Nice logic. By the way…look at GT’s and the ACC’s overall record against the SEC this past season. By the way…how did UGA do against ranked teams this year, and what is Richt’s record in his tenure at UGA against top 10 teams (hint; it is NOT pretty).
By Larry TCG
February 10, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this
Git R Done, Lane!!
By SOUTHGADAWG88
February 10, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this
Bradley I have a question for you.Who was the last NICE guy to win a National Championship?
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this
Im NOT Mark Bradley, but I can pretend I am.
By jim
February 10, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this
Mark BradleyI would hate Tennessee if I were you. How many times did they blow out UK while you were in school…..hahah EVERY TIME
By GATORZONE
February 10, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this
The “lame train” has jumped the tracks!
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this
Pete Carroll is a nice guy. Larry Coker is a nice guy. Mack Brown is a nice guy. Jim Tressel seems nice enough. I’ve even warmed to Les Miles.
By Spike
February 10, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this
Mark .. Let’s not get carried away here. Warming to Les Miles???
By Jimmy"Superfly"Snuka
February 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this
Why all of the grumbling about Lane? Yes, he is brand new to the SEC. Let him pick his own fights and see how he fares. Most of you sound as though you are more worried by all of the insults and smack talking. If the dogs beat the vols, then you can talk. Let the boy alone.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this
I know, I know. Les is at best an acquired taste. But I loved the “have-a-great-day” press briefing, and being around him at the BCS title game in New Orleans I came to appreciate his way with the English language. (Really!)
By ctownvol
February 10, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this
Mark Bradley and Vince Dooley are both idiots!
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this
No, we’re not. Vince Dooley and I have won six SEC championships between us, I’ll have you know.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this
ctownvol is a 12 year old skipping school and doesn’t know the first thing about Vince Dooley, UGA football, or life in general.
By Lee in Tennessee
February 10, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this
Nice one, Mark.
And I agree with you about Miles. Of course, I’ve never met him, but I think we Southerners (and yes, I capitalize it) sometimes mistake being a Yankee with being a jerk. That’s not always the case. He seems like a genuinely good guy with great diction.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 10, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this
Now that’s funny Mark. Throw me in on those conference championships plus the NC.
Just give Kiffin a few months he will adjust. Afterall I remember my first jar of moonshine (well most of it). It can make you do and say some crazy things.
Since we now know Kiffin to be a little off balance do we change the name of the Fulmer Cup to the Kiffin Cup? I was thinking the Saban Cup since he won it last year but now I am not so sure.
By Ron Burgundy
February 10, 2009 3:26 PM | Link to this
I’m Ron Burgundy and here are a few of the things I like most: A nice glass of scotch, my dog Baxter, Vince Dooley, and my journalist brother Mark Bradley. Now you can say what you want about me, but when you speak negatively of any of these things it just makes me mad. So stop it before I get the Channel 5 news team together and we’ll come after you like a pride of lions on a wounded zebra. You stay classy Atlanta!
By What now???
February 10, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this
As a Vol, I really wish Kiffen would keep his mouth shut. I would much rather him quietly prove his point on the game field. That said, so far people can only say that he has demonstrated a remarkable lack of class, not that he is a bad collegiate coach. That part is yet to be seen.
The various bloggers here who so proudly proclaim that the Big Orange will be in misery for years to come should wait until the clock expires a few times, or you are just as big a loudmouth as Kiffen.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 3:30 PM | Link to this
Thanks, Ron. You stay classy yourself.
By Rader Grode
February 10, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this
I have to laugh at all the negative comments about Lane Kiffin… You are really painting a hellish picture.. Aah but you forget.. he has been to hell as a headcoach for Al (already dead) Davis. FightOn Lane!!
By Rader Grode
February 10, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this
I have to laugh at all the negative comments about Lane Kiffin… You are really painting a hellish picture.. Aah but you forget.. he has been to hell as a headcoach for Al (already dead) Davis. FightOn Lane!!
By Rader Grode
February 10, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this
I have to laugh at all the negative comments about Lane Kiffin… You are really painting a hellish picture.. Aah but you forget.. he has been to hell as a headcoach for Al (already dead) Davis. FightOn Lane!!
By SOUTHGADAWG88
February 10, 2009 3:34 PM | Link to this
I give you Tressel.Coker took over a loaded roster and when they graduated he stopped winning.Carroll is a “push” with the Reggie Bush stuff(how could you not know what was going on with your superstar player to THAT degree?I can tell you that from living in Houston for 8 years when it comes to recruiting tactics Mack Brown is as hated by other schools in Texas than anybody in the SEC.I don’t remember many people calling Miles a class act during his title run.
By st simons
February 10, 2009 3:38 PM | Link to this
vince go sell some hot dogs!!!!! 45-42!!!! hahahahhahhahahahahahahhah
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this
JackP,
One thing you should learn is respect for your elders. To put down Vince Dooley is just plain classless. The man is not just a Georgia legend but an SEC legend and is universally respected not just throughout the sec but nationally as well.
Mark asked him some blunt questions about Kiffin’s behavior and Dooley handled it professionally. He did not pile on and belittle Kiffin but he didn’t excuse his poor behavior either. He simply stated the obvious in a professional manner: That Kiffin has some growing up to do and should be more careful in how he addresses his counterparts. That’s all. Kiffin represents a major sec as well as national program in Tennessee and as such he should act accordingly and grow up.
By Grandma
February 10, 2009 3:42 PM | Link to this
H3ll, I told all my grandchillun’ not to go to Tennessee. Too many inbreds!
By SOUTHGADAWG88
February 10, 2009 3:56 PM | Link to this
I wont knock Vince Dooley..that man was a winner and a gentleman.However the 2000 SEC is a whole different animal than the 70’s/80’s SEC.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this
“Fight on.” Wasn’t that one of Jim Mora (the younger)’s farewell lines?
(Answer: Yes indeed.)
By KJ
February 10, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
Thats about as classy as a 51-7 win over GT isnt it? Karma is a B1t.ch isnt it?
LOL, if Urban Cryer were coaching that game, it would have been 100-7. Now shut your stupid trap, and go make plans for the ring you’re gonna have made after you get depantsed in the Poinsettia Bowl next year.
By Dorsey Hill
February 10, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
This whole thing about “nice guys” is annoying. Look the only real jerks to win NC’s in the last 10 years has been Saban and maybe you’d put Stoops in that category. Urban is Urban and a lot of people, including me, don’t necessarily like him, but I’ve never seen him be impolite, rude or start screaming at anyone. Being intense and competitive is not being a jerk. In general, I think Urban is just a damn good ball coach who prefers winning over the alternative. So what if he is motivated in some ways by being vindictive? He clearly outcoached Saban in the 4th Q of the SECCG and that’s saying something.
I guess we have Bill Belichick to blame for this idea of jerk = winner, but the reality is that football coaches for the most part are good, nice people. If you want to win, your player’s have to like and respect you. The fans have to like and respect you and in college the boosters have to like and respect you. Being a jerk simply means that you’d better win quickly so people will put up with you. (See Jim Donnan’s last call in radio show if you don’t believe me.)
The universe of successful jackazz coaches is quite small whereas the universe of really good successful coaches is much larger. If anyone thinks Mike Tomlin is an azz is just not in the real world. Is he talking intensly about repeating next year at this year’s post-game presser? Oh, yes, but that’s just being competitive with a lack of healthy perspective, not being a jerk.
By Volsense
February 10, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
Dooley is a class act. Kiffin reminds me of like we used to say in the military when we had a tough talker, lets check his temperature when the killing starts. For Kiffin this is page 1 with a whole book to go.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 10, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this
Sounds more like Grandma Bowden.
By Jimmy"Superfly"Snuka
February 10, 2009 4:18 PM | Link to this
It appears Lane is setting the table for the vols to be ready when all of these other teams come to town. As mentioned, they have not played a down. At least he has a set and is making some noise. Not much has rolled out of Knoxville the past few years since Wildfire Tommy Rich left. We shall see.
By Big BCH 99
February 10, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this
I’m a Tech fan, but I love all level of football (Coll. especially) & I keep up w/ what’s happening in the SEC some. And everyone will agree that Lane is in trouble if he’s found a way to unite the SEC (all against him) b/c I’ve noticed that in the SEC, fans don’t just hate their one main rival (for GT that’s UGA, for Michigan (one of my other teams), that’s Ohio St.) 24/7, 365. SEC fans hate every other school that’s not theirs, one favorite team & 118 most hated rivals. So by being a smart-aleck, arrogant cocky un-proven coach, Lane is in serious trouble.
He may have already hired his replacement (his Dad Monte), b/c Monte has been a top notch DC for many yrs, & as a Falcon fan in the NFL, I’m thrilled to see them not have to face Monte’s Defenses twice a yr anymore.
By SOUTHGADAWG88
February 10, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this
Dorsey Hill-good point.I think the “jerk,A-hole” stuff has more to do with recruiting tactics than anything else.As I stated earlier he who gets the best players usually wins the most ballgames.CMR has done a good job on the recruitment of quality players without being vilified by other programs for how he got them.However Meyer,Saban and Miles have gotten better players overall.That’s not a knock on the man.Those guys haven’t left a lot of good feelings among other coaches on the recruiting trail,but they do produce and when they get them on campus they win big ie NC.Once the kick off comes it really don’t matter how one coach feels about the other…the players decide what happens.
By Zippy
February 10, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this
Its funny how every other team in the SEC seems to have banded together against Kiffin and UT. Now everyone will put 70 on UT and everyone will try harder and every coach will take players just to keep them from going to TN. LOL!
I guess the conference only has two sides now, UT and the rest. When Urban spanks UGA or AL again, I’m sure you all will celebrate with FL and their coach. When Urban crosses the ethics line to embarrass you on the field, I’m sure you will be happy to move on to the next game and next year without being upset. Please people.
I get FL being mad, but GA and AL? What exactly did he say about UGA… the they have gotten complacent… considering Richt didn’t recruit 2 highly thought of player from GA (whom UT signed), Kiffin might be right in his assessment. And AL, Kiffin said Saban should thank Thompson for hauling in many of those guys… isn’t that fact? Doesn’t Thompson get some credit for his effort while being recruiting coordinator at AL for all but 2 weeks of this season?
By Big BCH 99
February 10, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this
the definition of a classless Coach is Miles, I don’t want to sound like a whiny Tech fan, b/c I will definitely say that Tech got flat out out-played, out-efforted by a more talented team, Tech plays a lot of teams w/ more talent than them, they win by out-working those teams, they gout out-worked by LSU.
But, I don’t care what U say, there is ZERO, I mean ZERO excuse for running a Fake Punt up 35 pts in the 4th quarter. It’s also not right to being throwing bombs up 35. That’s classless any way U look at it. And that’s why I would seriously consider pulling for UGAy over Les.
Richt was running it up when it was 51-7, & threw in the 4th w/ his 3rd string QB, but he didn’t fake a kick.
By The Great Kabuki Dawg
February 10, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this
Ahhhhhhhspooooooph! In your face with the green powder Kiffin. So Superfly, you sayin’ that Kiffin was just testing the fog machines while the recruits were there? Did he introduce them to the sheriff too? You show up by winning. Not smacking.
By Jon
February 10, 2009 4:55 PM | Link to this
This is a classic example of “no publicity is bad publicity.” That theory may work in the music and film industries, but in the SEC, not so much. I’m shocked at the UT fans, who always talk about how much more classy Knoxville is than Athens, would or could get behind a guy like this. Desperate is the only word that comes to mind.
In the Pac 10 football is more a social gathering where lunatic fans are the fringe. The SEC has a vast majority of lunatic fans, and the outcome of games has meant life or death in some cases.
People here in the south are famous for holding grudges. How many people in ‘Bama are itching to turn in these newbies in Knoxville? Remember, Phil Fulmer went out of his way to burn the Tide to the tune of a hefty probation. Retrobution is on the way.
Every year we in Georgia are given examples of how lucky we are to have Mark Richt at the helm. Remember his first signature win? Flying under the radar to Knoxville, where the great pumpkin got crushed by an underestimated hob-nailed boot.
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Link to this
Zippy,
Actually Kiffin made several comments aimed directly at Saban and Alabama that were less publicized then the outright accusation that Meyer cheated. They obviously garnered a little more attention in Alabama newspapers. And for the record, Thompson did not “sign” any players for Bama. He recruited several of them, then left, Saban “signed” them. Kiffin stated that they were going to lock down the Memphis recruiting area and keep Bama out. Thompson quoted ‘He (Saban) aint getting any more of my recruits.”
Actions speak louder than words because Saban got a committment a day later from a wide receiver out of Memphis named malone for the 2010 class. He is a scout top 100 junior player and if he won’t be the top player in tenn. this year he will certainly be in the top 3 or 4 players in Tenn. coming out of high school. The kid started laughing when Kiffin was mentioned to him after he committed to Bama. Talk about poetic justice.
It was awesome to see Saban pull that one off. BTW, Thompson used to tell players in the Mobile area that the last school they should consider going out of state to was Tennessee. Can’t wait till all those 2009 Mobile area recruits that he said that to get to tell the same story to the 2010 Mobile area recruits when they visit Bama. The head coach carries far more weight than some assistant as Thompson is about to find out. Nobody outworks Saban on the recruiting trail and Thompson and or Kiffin aint gonna be the first. All they did was tick Saban off and make it work 24 hours a day now instead of 23.
By Ed
February 10, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this
To follow up on Mark’s earlier comments, I remember pundits saying in 2000-01 that SEC defenses were catching up to Spurrier, then he bolted for the NFL. 4 years later he returned to the SEC and proved the pundits right. His offense is way too predictable. I don’t see Spurrier lasting beyond this upcoming season, although I think he’ll be allowed to “retire” by the folks in Columbia.
It’s funny how mortal some of these coaches are when they don’t have more talent than everyone else.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this
Nick Saban’s going to work longer hours? How is that even possible?
By Zippy
February 10, 2009 5:14 PM | Link to this
Bama12titles,
So what is so offensive about “He (Saban) aint getting any more of my recruits”? My guess is that Bama is more upset with Thompson leaving with 3 weeks remaining before signing day but then Bama did the same to Auburn by taking Auburn’s coach with 2 weeks to go. UGA did the same to UT when they took Garner.
As for the WR out of Memphis, UT really hasn’t had much of a chance to recruit him. If he signs with BAMA, and UT wanted him, then congratulation. With over 350 days before the next signing day, I wouldn’t be so certain he is going to Bama. That would be like UT celebrating for getting the #1 prospect from TN, a 5* LB to switch from UGA to UT. I won’t celebrate until he signs.
By Sautee Dawg
February 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Link to this
Bama 12 titles
You can praise Saban all you want but, i believe UGA won the recruiting battle against Kiffin this year.
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 5:23 PM | Link to this
Mark,
As you pointed out to me a month or so ago in another post. He is Satan you know. He can probably do it.
By Dawg Tired
February 10, 2009 5:24 PM | Link to this
Mark - Good article. I think some people (primarily UT folk) are missing your point - why is that not surprising? This guy may turn out to be a great coach - we have no way of actually knowing that until he has time to establish a record at the collegiate level.
What we do know is he has acted quite immaturely these first few weeks on the job. In fact, he has been an embarrassment. Based on what I’ve read on this blog from some UT fans, they can’t be embarrassed. Why does that not surprise me? As a fan of UGA, I’m embarrassed by this guy in that he is representing our conference and is being made fun of on a national level. However, if I was a UT fan, I would be extremely embarrassed. There is certainly no way you can defend his actions without appearing foolish yourself. Wake up folks! Does orange make one blind?
By Zippy
February 10, 2009 5:31 PM | Link to this
Dawg Tired,
Were you embarrassed when the who UGA team ran from the sideline to celebrate in the end zone? I seem to recall that UGA fans thought it was a great motivational move especially since it probably helped them win the game.
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 5:36 PM | Link to this
Zippy,
You’re missing the point. We really don’t care that Thompson went to UT. Its the childish trash talking and bragging. Do you not get that? Its juvenile and just not worthy of a national caliber coach or his staff. Do you see other assistant or head coaches talking that kind of trash around the conference? No. You don’t and the reason is because its classless. That’s all.
As for nabbing the top caliber prospect you are indeed right. Its another 360 days till he actually signs on the line and anything can happen. But my point is that its just funny that we get a top comittment from Memphis right after their trash talking.
Sautee dawg,
Saban is just one of numerous excellent coaches in the sec. The only thing I’m praising about the man is that he does indeed have a relentless and sick work ethic. That’s all. I’m not saying he is any better than any of the other esteemed coaches in the sec like CMR, Miles, Meyer, Spurrier, Nutt, or Tubbs when he was at Auburn. They are all excellent coaches. My only point is that Kiffin is unproven and if he does better than Saban it won’t be because he outworks Saban. That’s all.
By tyler
February 10, 2009 5:41 PM | Link to this
Please give it up already.. Georgia fans are so obsessed with the tennessee program it’s not even funny..
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 5:46 PM | Link to this
Dawg Tired, fans tend to be coldly objective about every team except theirs. That’s just the nature of being a fan.
By sue
February 10, 2009 5:47 PM | Link to this
Maybe this Daddy’s little boy will get Daddy to beat the big, old bad boys!! He had to get Daddy to come help him coach! Wouldn’t it be nice, if Widdle Wane would stand on his own two feet like a grown man?
By Sautee Dawg
February 10, 2009 5:52 PM | Link to this
Bama 12 titles
Your right. I don’t see Kiffin out working Saban either, on the recruiting trail or on the playing field. UT has a long road ahead of them. And Kiffin’s jabs at everybody will make it even longer.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 5:56 PM | Link to this
It’s weird. Monte Kiffin was universally respected around the NFL. His son seems to have sat at a different dinner table.
By Preston
February 10, 2009 6:00 PM | Link to this
tyler, the article is about Dooley looking back to when he was a young coach in the SEC and the mistakes that he sees a young Lane Kiffin making. It’s not very often that UT is mentioned because they’ve been irrelevant lately. What do you mean by GA fans being obsessed with the UT program? They’re the least of our worries. Vandy looks more dangerous than you guys!
By Jon
February 10, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this
Mark, what’s the over-under on UT wins for next year? Does it fluxuate with the nonsense Kiffin does and says?
By tyler
February 10, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this
it’s funny. this happened what 2 weeks ago? why are you just now writing about it? come up with something a little more up to date.. and kiffin & staff put together a great signing class this year considering kiffin was there less than 3 months and the full staff less than 3 weeks and UT still could POSSIBLY get 3 more commitments before its said and done. make fun of all you want but UT will be back.
By DawgGirl32
February 10, 2009 6:07 PM | Link to this
Zippy- No Georgia fan is “mad” at Lane Kiffin. He hasn’t done anything to us. We’re more or less laughing at his idiocy. It is interesting, though, that he spoke of Mark Richt lagging in in-state recruiting when Georgia just got the state of Tennessee’s two BEST recruits….Gotta love that irony. And the endzone celebration you bring up? Apples and oranges. There is a HUGE difference between a motivational tool and slander- which is what you’re trying to compare here.
By atlgator88
February 10, 2009 6:13 PM | Link to this
Kiffin….LOLOLOL….this guy is pure comedy. I cannot wait to see what his team looks like. Wasn’t he like choice number 4 for the Vols anyhow? Yeah NuKeese…like ya boy now…he only dissed your community…nice!
By DawgGirl32
February 10, 2009 6:16 PM | Link to this
Tyler- This happened Friday. Not quite two weeks ago. To be honest, I think you made a valid point even if you didn’t mean to. Kiffin very well may be doing some great things at Tennessee right now, like recruiting great players, but all that is going to be overshadowed as long as he keeps talking the way he has been.
By Where's Phil? Uh-oh
February 10, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this
Tennessee
Over 7.5 (-175)
Under 7.5 (+145)
I’m no gambler, but it looks like Vegas expects this guy to be a flop.
By Bama12titles
February 10, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this
Mark,
Alltime embarrassing moments in the sec. Which is more embarrassing? Mike Price getting fired at Alabama for the whole strippers and credit card and “Its rolling baby” thing or Kiffin and all his statements and calling Meyer a cheater?
I would have to say we were more embarrassed at Bama over the whole strippergate thing. Of course only now do we look back and laugh at the whole thing. It was embarrassing enough to fire him but looking back I feel bad for coach Price. Mike Price was a genuinely good guy who just got stupid drunk and had strippers in his hotel room.
Also, should we Bama fans be more embarrassed over the episode period or should we be more embarrassed over the fact that the stripper with the credit card was Godawful butt ugly and looked like a man?
Right now we hold the cup for the most embarrassing moment in the sec but if anybody else can think of a more embarrassing moment feel free to chime in. Kiffin still has a ways to go before he catches up with us.
By atlgator88
February 10, 2009 6:28 PM | Link to this
Dawggirl..well said about Kiff…he’ll be welcomed to the SEC in nice fashion. The East division is much different now as you have to strap it up withKentucky and Vandy these days. They aren’t the typical bottom feeders anymore. This aint the Pac 10 where some programs care less about football…this is the SEC where EVERY school expects to win and away games are truly hostile. I’ll be there with the rest of the welcoming committee at the swamp come September…
By tyler
February 10, 2009 6:32 PM | Link to this
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/jan/26/ut-reporting-possible-secondary-violation/
Did NOT happen friday, Know your facts “dawggirl”
By Mac
February 10, 2009 6:34 PM | Link to this
Tyler, this happened a week ago, not two weeks ago and the self-reported violations just happened. If you are a Vol fan, I can understand you wanting it to be over. But, as long as Elane is sticking her foot in her mouth … well shoot.
By Dadgummit
February 10, 2009 6:42 PM | Link to this
Tyler,
The point is that Kiffen so far is a walking and talking buffoon. From all the statements to now the recruiting violations. They are secondary so its not really a big deal but it just shows that the kid is reckless with his mouth and sloppy with how he manages his program in the early going. This kid is way in over his head and its only been a couple of months. This is not good.
By Charles N. Carter
February 10, 2009 7:04 PM | Link to this
Lane Kiffin ought to take a look at Jim Tressel and learn how to win and lose and recruit with total class.
By dr babb
February 10, 2009 7:06 PM | Link to this
so with all this kiffin drama, what happens if he somehow beats uf, uga, usce ua and goes to a decent bowl game? talk about sawgger! UT will have it….
By Elaine Kiffin
February 10, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this
Yes, If Kiffin beats UF, UGA, UA, and maybe even S. Carolina he could talk all the talk and move with some serious swagger. But the odds of beating UF in the swamp, something that UT has done once since 1971? NOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would give them a snowball’s chance in you know what of beating Tebow and the gators this year in the swamp. Odds aren’t much better against Bama in Tuscaloosa this year or against UGA. Besides that they still have other tough sec games including a really tough looking Ole Miss team and I think an Auburn team which will also be better. Stick a fork in the vols.
By TechBuzz
February 10, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this
I heard Richt’s thinking of a more creating taunting penalty this year against UF to get really get his team ‘fired up’! He’ll rush the field with the players after TD and do a chest bump, crotch grab and throat slash to the Florida bench—-that will show them for calling that time out! richt—pure class!!
By KJ
February 10, 2009 7:19 PM | Link to this
“Please give it up already.. Georgia fans are so obsessed with the tennessee program it’s not even funny.. “
Wow, this has to be the front-runner for ironic post of the year… lolllllllll
By Lee
February 10, 2009 7:20 PM | Link to this
Kiffen and Meyer are going to turn the SEC into the WWE. I can see it now both of those idiots on TV each week telling whomever their playing how bad they’re going to beat them. If the league’s lucky maybe these idiots will kill each other at midfield… Wait a minute maybe they duke it out in a steel cage… Perhaps a Hell in a Cell match… NAW let’s let face off in a loser leaves the SEC match!
By Iceman
February 10, 2009 7:20 PM | Link to this
Who cares….the best coach in the south is now resides in Atlanta
Yup, Mike Smith is very cool.
Go Dawgs & Falcons
By Bamvol
February 10, 2009 7:33 PM | Link to this
Maybe there is a difference spending all that time at USC and having his father as the best NFL DC since Buddy Ryan. Different with Dooley and Dickey.
Dooley is old news.
By Big Man
February 10, 2009 7:46 PM | Link to this
Mark you hit the nail on the head with the comparison of Lame Kiffin and little Jim Mora.
@Jolly Rogers…what does Michael Vick have to do with Lame Kiffin being an idiot?
By herkyvol
February 10, 2009 7:57 PM | Link to this
Major points:
It was Marlon’s Grandma. Ask Marlon.
Unlike the other coaches you reference, Kiffin actually has a good chance of having a better record than his predecessor in his first year, even if he does get toasted by the bigs. We have been folding in important games for years. What do we have to lose?
Kiffin and UT have been in the headlines of every major media outlet since NSD. Comparatively, your article is weak.
Kiffin et al have signed 2 4- star recruits from the Gator’s and one 5-star recruit from LSU’s pre-NSD commitment lists.
The team is fired up and ready to do more than just ‘work like heck;’ they are ready to cash the check than Kiffin has tendered with his not-so-tender language. And before you inbred Alabmohemians and jorted reptilians go getting your g-strings in a wad- its called a metaphor.
I think what the SEC and the media need to realize is that the Tennessee fan base is behind this guy. We have always traveled well, but we have become increasingly complacent since 1998. The more whining, crying, scolding, admonishing, and finger-pointing you do, the more you do, the more you are solidifying and emboldening a long-divided Tennessee Volunteer family.
We may go down in defeat in Gainesville and Tuscaloosa, but not without bloodying some noses first.
Go Vols!
By I slept with Layla
February 10, 2009 8:05 PM | Link to this
I had sex with Layla Kiffin a month ago while Lane was out of town.
I find it funny Lane got this big high paying job and she still cheats on him with me.
*I hope this doesn’t offend Lane Kiffin, UT or any UT fan. Even though I am mildly unatractive, middle aged, balding and hung like a hamster…I posted the above putright lie in this energetic blog to fire up gator fans and others that dislike UT and think Lane is a complete moron.
By I'll show you classy
February 10, 2009 8:06 PM | Link to this
Hey bill, from your comments….
“Hey classy how many penalty flags were thrown on Meyer during those two timeouts?”
There’s no penalty for being a petty jerk… and that gives you all the freedom you need to sit around and take offense at every little thing you read.
By Hugh
February 10, 2009 8:10 PM | Link to this
No one knows what will happen next year. I do hope that all of you eat your words. It could be along year, but it’s been along ten years for UT. I am glad for the change…..PS All of you can bite me. LOL GO VOLS
By Kiffin is the Man
February 10, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this
Right on point, Herky. Some of these folks just want us to maintain that old Fulmer workin’ like heck mantra so they can feel good about their chances to get a win. Vol fans want to get away from embarassing losses to teams they should be pounding the dust out of every year.
What will be fun Mark Bradley, will be to watch the rebirth of the most important football team in the SEC…the Tennessee Volunteers. It’ll be bumpy; there will be an occasional upset loss to Florida or Ole Miss maybe. In the end though, right will prevail and Lane Kiffin will lead the Vols back to national prominence, the SEC Championship (not that weakassed Eastern division consolation prize)and probably a national championship. Most importantly, we’ll all be able to read about UT every single day for the rest of our lives right here in the Knoxville Journal-Constitution.
By 4years
February 10, 2009 8:34 PM | Link to this
Mark,
“In five seasons in Columbia he has lost five more conference games than he did in 12 years at Florida.”
Spurrier has only been in Columbia through 4 seasons…ouch.
By TampaGator
February 10, 2009 8:42 PM | Link to this
Hey Kiffin is the man… get over your delusion and drop this loser. Writing is on the wall. Big UT $$ boosters have already ordered his firing. Gruden will be a much better. You all are the laughing stock of the college football world right now. Fulmer was (is) a decent human being.
By Cuz
February 10, 2009 8:42 PM | Link to this
SEC fans are not obsessed with the UT football program. Hey it is a little less than seven months to kickoff. We need something to talk about and Coach K has given us that opportunity. As a fan of SEC football I would like to take this opportunity to thank Coach Kiffin for making the off season a little more entertaining.
By Lame
February 10, 2009 8:51 PM | Link to this
Who gives a damn what Fooley thinks? This isnt your grandfathers sec anymore.
By Gary
February 10, 2009 9:18 PM | Link to this
O.K. Just a few things before I get started. #1 I am a Vol fan from Knoxville.#2 I am 53 years old, so I have seen a thing or two in my life.(Also heard a thing or two). Now to the meat of this whole little dilemma. It sure seems that The Kiffer has got everyone thing about U.T. Good! His remarks were to solely get the BIG ORANGE NATION back into the swing of things after Fulmer put them to sleep. When you only have 95,000 for a home Alabama game something is seriosly wrong.Admit it, Fulmer had some fantastic players, but he consistently got outcoaached by the really good teams, most of the time. O.K. Kiffin has never coached a game in the SEC. Fair enough. But all anyone seems to talk about is Kiffin. What about the staff he has put together? NFL coaches. BAMA's rrecruiting co., an offensive c.o. that was in the NFL for several years after 10 years with Purdue as O.C. In 10 years he had Purdue in the top 2 in the big ten 6 times in offense. Southern Cal only won 4 or 5 games the year before Kiffin and Orgeron came in asassistants and 3 years later won it all.By Kiffin is the Man
February 10, 2009 9:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Tampa Gator…you’re right. Some UT boosters…but only Fulmer’s closest friends and business associates…probably have ordered it. The rest of the boosters and alumni that haven’t personally benefitted from knowing xCPF couldn’t be happier with Kiffin.
If being a laughingstock means watching Foley wet himself and make his two-time NC winning coach look like a momma’s boy over comments made in jest, then fine. I know you love Fulmer. So does every other SEC school that bent him over the last few years. Meyer REALLY loved him since he ran up 59 on him two years ago. He sealed Fulmer’s fate right then. No Tennessee team should ever give up that many to a Florida team, and Fulmer did it twice.
Nope in two months, Kiffin has already stared down the UF A.D. and HC and made ‘em blink (and whine), stole two long time Gator commits with ease and orchestrated a takeover of the largest paper in the South. Winning on the field will be the least of his worries.
By Mark Bradley
February 10, 2009 10:01 PM | Link to this
So Orgeron and Kiffin were the reasons USC won it all? Not Bush and Leinart? Not Carroll and Chow?
I learn something every day.
By Gary
February 10, 2009 10:30 PM | Link to this
Yeah, they recruited them!Carroll and Chow were there to help coach them.BTW Recruiting is the name of the game. Give this staff a full 12 months and see what they do regardless of what Finebaum says.They did land a top 20 class with a few surprises.And they could still get a top flight rb in the next couple of weeks.Just as they got Richardson and Marsalis Teague from Florida and Janzen Jackson from LSU.Hold on to your hats. Here come the Vols.By MyView
February 10, 2009 10:33 PM | Link to this
Mark that is a good point comparing Lane to Monte. I don’t think they sat at seperate tables. Monte coached in the NFL where daddys are in the office during dinner. Maybe that is what has happened to both Lane and Mora. No daddy to teach the unwritten rules.
By Kiffin is the Man
February 10, 2009 10:36 PM | Link to this
So, what is the Mark Bradley approved number of wins that Lane Kiffin must get before he’s allowed to take on the SEC establishment? How many decent columns did you have to have published before you were allowed to talk to Furman Bisher? Have you reached that number yet? BTW, I’m pretty sure Kiffin expects he might possibly lose a game or two this year, but unlike his predecessor it won’t be for lack of preparation or testicular fortitude. Thanks for bringing up 5-15 again, like it matters. Ask Satan over at Bama about 1-15 in Miami and how it affected his college coaching record. Poor effort, Mark.
By Florida Dawg
February 10, 2009 10:38 PM | Link to this
Good for Lane Kiffin….Urban Crier would call a time out anyway…Kiffin knows that. Doesn’t matter.
By Reality Check
February 10, 2009 10:56 PM | Link to this
This is for all of you Big Orange blow-hards out there:
Spurrier actually based his jibes in facts. FSU was involved in some funny business and UT did frequent the Citrus and Peach Bowls. Kiffin is just blowing smoke in an attempt to gain any publicity. It seems his actions aren’t enough?
Orgeron couldn’t get it done in Oxford with “great recruits.”
Lame couldn’t get it done in Oakland with NFL talent and an owner with deep pockets.
Whatever some guy did years ago in the Big 10 has nothing to do with getting it done in the SEC.
Rallying behind an idiot with a case of diareha of the mouth shows how desperate you are for relevance. Bragging about it is just pathetic. I’m sorry for you.
By Gary
February 10, 2009 11:12 PM | Link to this
Good Lord, anyone with any sense. or NFL knowledge knows that working for Al Davis is akin to working for George Steinbrenner or Donald Trump. A no win situation. But he does have the experience of being the youngest NFL coach.With four more wins than Satan had with a lot less talent.And we are not pathetic, just excited and optomistic. Fulmer was a good, not to be confused with great coach, but was about as interesting as watching plaster dry. WE need enthusisam and a little shot of adrenalin and the Kifster is giving us that.
By Kiffin is the Man
February 10, 2009 11:15 PM | Link to this
Reality Check? Hardly. The beaten down, nearly retired Spurrier publicly accused Kiffin of contacting recruits before he had the UT job. Not one word from Mike Slive. Of course, the UT brass didn’t run screaming to the commish like the boys in Fla, but I digress. It happened, and no punishment. Favoritism? Obviously.
Other corrections to your fantasy: Orgeron is our DL coach and recruiting coordinator, not our HC. Big difference. His work as DL coach at USC where he brought in a lot of those talented boys he coached is unquestioned.
Lane’s time in Oakland matters not. He wasn’t even allowed to hire his father, the best DC in all of football to his staff, much less anybody else. He took the job and found out he was being undercut by his own owner. And as for deep pockets, who did they sign worth a crap? No one. Again, Kiffin had no say.
You say what Orgeron and Kiffin did elsewhere matters (only because it wasn’t wildly successful), but when a guy tutors Drew Brees and Kyle Orton to pro careers, that doesn’t matter? Seems like a contradiction.
For you and all the Kiffin haters out there: Kiffin is our guy and we like him just fine. Sorry that he’s not gonna just bow down and kiss feet because he’s the new guy in town. He’s making a wholesale culture change at UT because what we were doing wasn’t working well enough. The old guy couldn’t win enough for us, and wasn’t liked by you guys, until you finally started beating him.
The new guy doesn’t have time to worry about your feelings. He’s trying to win football games by lighting a fire under the program and the fanbase. Newsflash, he’s gonna lose some games this season. Maybe even in 2010, but we’re going to be patient because we know what he was left to use. He doesn’t have to win the SECC in 2010, but he might. Right now, we’ll settle for winning more games against all our rivals and not losing any to the likes of Wyoming. You don’t have to like it, but you’re going to have to live with it.
By Mr. Rogers
February 10, 2009 11:35 PM | Link to this
Holding fake news conferences and setting off smoke bombs. Does he change his sweater and bring out the little red trolley too? Are coaches subjected to drug testing? Maybe a psych evaluation? Gary and Kiffin nut hugger: Your diatribes make beating the pooh out of UT on game day even more enjoyable.
You don’t mess with old King Kong or tug on Superman’s cape and all that.
By JBruce
February 11, 2009 12:00 AM | Link to this
As a Tennessee fan, I love the fact that Kiffin is hated around the conference. Yes, he is a cocky SOB, but in a few weeks he has revitalized a program that has been slugish and on the decline. He is peaking interest from some of the best recruits in the nation. This week alone, we will have Bryce Brown (#1 player in the 2009 class) as well as Jake Heaps (likely the #1 player in the 2010 class) in Knoxville on official visits. We have a very good chance at landing both. Last week, he was able to pull two committed recruits from Florida (Marsalis Teague and NuKeese Richardson) and LSU commit Janzen Jackson (#2 cornerback in the country). He also got a verbal commitment from the #1 in state player for the 2010 class 5* DT Jacques Smith.
He has installed a level of discipline that the program has been lacking for a long time. He has personally been checking up on his athletes to make sure that they are in class and doing well. From all reports, the new strength and conditioning program that has been installed is far and away more intense than it ever was under Fulmer.
Bottom line, all of you have written him and our program off as a failure and we haven’t even made it to spring practice yet.
By SEC MAN
February 11, 2009 12:23 AM | Link to this
Mark,
In all honesty, tell me the last time that the UGA program was slightly relevant? The fact of the matter is that the last time a team from Georgia won a championship game, they won it in a stadium named after a UT alumni, and it wasn’t anywhere near Athens. It’s easy to write about sports when you’ve never coached or played.
Let’s just wait and see what happens before we make our predictions. Reporters report facts, pundits opine about B.S. Which are you?
By Elaine Kiffin
February 11, 2009 12:38 AM | Link to this
Kiffin is the man,
Ask Satan about his 1-15 record at Miami. Get your facts straight buddy. The dolphins were 15-17 under Saban and were 7-9 his 2nd year. It was after he left that they went 1-15 the next year. Idiot!
By Hairofthedawg
February 11, 2009 1:53 AM | Link to this
I think UT is definately losing pace in SEC East. They got beaten last year by most everyone of consequence in SEC and now they have a coach making very poor decisions. Two of the top recruits in TN go to UGA incuding the top priority of Kiffin, Marlon Brown. Powerhouse teams in SEC now have their crosshairs aimed at them due to a new unproven coach speaking out of turn who he will have to contend with and hear from in the fall after they play. Accusing Urban of cheating when he was in vioation himself really takes the cake. People in SEC of many different schools all ridiculing the UT head coach. Why would a coach put so much pressure on his players and a rebuilding program? Again, poor decision process and when it really will reflect the most is this fall. While UT tossed a lot of money at Rodney Garner to come to UT and he declined saying it was about CMR, yes he is a great coach, but he also sees reality at UT in that things are not going so good now and no stability in the program. Unfortunately I am afraid this will be a demise of a once prominent program and only reflect poorly on the rest of the SEC.
By Michael
February 11, 2009 3:46 AM | Link to this
Correction Mr. Bradley….we all make mistakes. I have made one or two in my life. You made one in your article when you state that Spurrier first lost to Coach Majors 45-3. Back up the truck Mr. Badley. While you are so eager to blast Kiffen, I won’t blast you - - but Spurrier won the ACC championship while at Duke, but lost to Coach Majors that year. I won’t venture to try and remember the score….just that Spurrier did not first lose to Majors 45-3. I was at both games.
By URanIDIOT
February 11, 2009 4:00 AM | Link to this
Hairofthedawg… UGA has been relevant during the preseason, period. They didnt even get the chance to disappoint you in a real championship game.. Keep your trap shut until your team has done anything of note in the conference. As a matter of fact, who was it that played in the SEC CG last year?? I believe it was Tennessee that won the SEC E in ‘07, not the big bad and supposedly “nationally relevant” georgia bullcraps. Enjoy Marlon, he is a real talent but, makes bad decisions which he will soon live to regret. I guarantee you, no one, not FL, not LSU, not You, not AL, not anyone will take this team lightly next year and by 2010, you will not only be taking this game seriously but, you’ll be praying you win it because it’ll be the only chance you’ll have at making it to a NC.
By Hairofthedawg
February 11, 2009 7:20 AM | Link to this
Idiot, wake up. you are dreaming. :-)
By solo_hensley
February 11, 2009 8:44 AM | Link to this
Rocky Top, you’ll always be, home sweet home to me. Good ole Rocky Top-Rocky Top Tennessee. Go Kiffin
By solo_hensley
February 11, 2009 8:47 AM | Link to this
Rocky Top, you’ll always be, home sweet home to me. Good ole Rocky Top-Rocky Top Tennessee. Go Kiffin
By Roll Tizzy
February 11, 2009 9:15 AM | Link to this
This guy is an absolute MORON!! Cant wait to see him get dealt with over the next 2-3 years. Thats the max he’ll make it here..
By Sec Rules
February 11, 2009 9:20 AM | Link to this
Anyone note that Idiots blog starts and ends with a U T and has idiot inbetween. Must be their coach.
By JR
February 11, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this
The guy is from Minnesota. What do you expect from an arrogant yankee?
By Bill in Sandy Springs
February 11, 2009 9:30 AM | Link to this
Nice Article/interview, Mark.
The one thing that makes me scratch my head is the difference between Dooley at age 31 in 1964 or John Madden at age 33 in 66 or 67 when he took the Raider job and Lane Kiffin at age 33 taking the Tennessee job today in 2009.
The Football, more so than any other sport, has become much more complicated. Preparation in practice and in the film room seams to be a much bigger deal. Experience matters more today than it every has in Football.
In a league that contains head coaches that far outweigh him in experience and probably skill as well, you would think he would be a little more modest.
By Givm6
February 11, 2009 9:34 AM | Link to this
I’m a UT grad and VASF season ticket holder for 22 years. I hope CLK loses every game. He’s an idiot and the sooner he’s gone the better.
By Ted Striker
February 11, 2009 9:34 AM | Link to this
Tennessee is getting a raw deal on the fog-machine as a “gameday simulation.”
On the other hand, if they’d had recruits wear helmets and then whacked them over the head while chanting “UF!!! UF!!! or BAMA!!! BAMA!!!!”….
By What now???
February 11, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this
I cannot believe all of this. 195 posts and a major article about Kiffen being a loudmouth. This rates right up there in significance with Jessica Simpson’s weight gain.
Is Lane Kiffen a jerk, probably, but none of you yet know whether he can coach or not. That will be decided on the football field, not in this blog…and not by so many of you who proclaim every year that Georgia is a shoo in for the NC without playing a single down. Sorry folks, but the truth is that all of this will be resolved on the playing field, not on your comoputer. If you spent half as much time trying to resolve GA’s problems, then maybe you would not finish with three losses again this year.
By Keeping It Real
February 11, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this
The SEC and all of its in-bred alumni and coaches suck!!!! They are absolutely devoid of any morals. Lets hope that no team from this conference ever wins a national title again.
By What the F?
February 11, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Who the hell is Lane Kiffin?
By GiveMeABreak
February 11, 2009 10:08 AM | Link to this
Maybe if some of you listened to your grandma more often, you wouldn’t have turned out to be AJC sports blog trollers….i.e., Losers.
By Gen Neyland
February 11, 2009 10:14 AM | Link to this
Well, well…Amazing to see an oponents coach garner so much attention. Kinda distracts from what’s going on down home…Many of UT’s new coaches have been away from the college level for a few years. They are having to relearn how to be perceived as gentlemen, and being rather clumsy in their attempts. Plus, they gotta learn how to bend the rules within the guidelines. Remember the old racing rule,’If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying’… Give them time. They’ll be power munching on Humble Pie at some point. My concern is that a team will play off and adopt a coaches personality. That persona better be what they see on the practice field and in player-coach personal contact, not in media reports…I hope.
By What now???
February 11, 2009 10:25 AM | Link to this
Actually, the comments that Kiffin so stupidly made are the kinds of comments I see in AJC sports blogs daily. Many of you accuse every coach but your own of cheating. It is an ignorant thing to say out loud if you cannot substantiate it, whether you are a coach or just an uninformed fan.
Now that I think about it, Kiffin kind of reminds me of many of you bloggers. You “don’t know what you don’t know”.
By Red Elephant
February 11, 2009 10:37 AM | Link to this
Just another reason to hate Orange.
By Anonymous
February 11, 2009 10:44 AM | Link to this
What now??
It’s a given that anonymous sports bloggers can behave like loud-mouth douchebags. Not so for a head coach of a high-profile Division I football program. Kiffin continues to act like a teenage bully whose mouth is writing checks that his body (and his team) can’t cash. He is the most prominent public representative of the University of Tennessee, and continues to hurt UT’s public image.
So, Lane, STFU. No more made-up stories about Urban Meyer’s alleged cheating, the Pahokee mafia, or grandma stealing one of your recruits. When you’re in hole, quit digging. When UT pays you $2 million per year, you’re supposed to know that.
By Anonymous
February 11, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this
What now??
It’s a given that anonymous sports bloggers can behave like loud-mouth douchebags. Not so for a head coach of a high-profile Division I football program. Kiffin continues to act like a teenage bully whose mouth is writing checks that his body (and his team) can’t cash. He is the most prominent public representative of the University of Tennessee, and continues to hurt UT’s public image.
So, Lane, STFU. No more made-up stories about Urban Meyer’s alleged cheating, the Pahokee mafia, or grandma stealing one of your recruits. When you’re in hole, quit digging. When UT pays you $2 million per year, you’re supposed to know that.
By Anonymous
February 11, 2009 11:00 AM | Link to this
What now??
It’s a given that anonymous sports bloggers can behave like loud-mouth douchebags. Not so for a head coach of a high-profile Division I football program. Kiffin continues to act like a teenage bully whose mouth is writing checks that his body (and his team) can’t cash. He is the most prominent public representative of the University of Tennessee, and continues to hurt UT’s public image.
So, Lane, STFU. No more made-up stories about Urban Meyer’s alleged cheating, the Pahokee mafia, or grandma stealing one of your recruits. When you’re in hole, quit digging. When UT pays you $2 million per year, you’re supposed to know that.
By What now???
February 11, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this
Anonymous
Well written. I agree with all you said. I just got a little miffed at some of the people here making their predictions of the football team and justifying them by the asinine comments of our coach. The two may but do not necessarily go hand in hand. He might be a jerk, but still a good coach (e.g. Bobby Knight). We will not know anything about the team until September.
I’m a Vol and I just wish he would keep his mouth shut also, and let the team do the talking on the field. As has been stated above, he has not earned the right to be a jerk. Steve Spurrier can be a jerk, but he backs it up on the playing field (and for the record, even though the Evil Genius has kicked our Orange backsides many times, I like the guy for backing up his jabs). Spurrier raised the bar for all of the coaches in the SEC.
By Vol fans are dumb
February 11, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this
Did someone say something about Richt’s record against top 10 teams? It’s 9-7. Yeah, that’s really terrible. For the record, Urban Meyer is 7-5.
By Dawg Tired
February 11, 2009 5:21 PM | Link to this
Zippy - Yes I was.
By Chip
February 11, 2009 5:30 PM | Link to this
I’m going to go out on a limb and go ahead and take the Gators vs UT and give the 45.
;-)
By Gary
February 11, 2009 6:04 PM | Link to this
Being a Vol fan and reading these blogs(also writing a couple)takes me back to a few games that I’ve been to and how the opposing fans react home and away.Overall, I have to say that Florida has the most classless fans in the SEC, followed closely by Georgia. The Bama folks can be nice , but when you meet a bad one like the total idiot on U Tube just walk the other way.South Carolina fans are a little cocky, but alright,Kentucky fans are just glad to be there and the Vandy fan is usually in the library by halftime.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 12, 2009 1:32 AM | Link to this
JUNIOR LAME KIFFIN ObKnoxiousville
Proof there is a God.
By JenUGAfan
February 12, 2009 9:11 AM | Link to this
Speaking as a relative of sort to the great Bear Bryant, I grew up as the blacksheep in my family because my heart belonged to UGA. I remember the first time I met Coach Dooley, let’s just say I was in total awe…..GO Dawgs!!!!
By Gen Neyland
February 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this
……………..BuLLdawg is proof He has a sense of humor too…
By Zippy
February 12, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this
Many are claming that “UT football is irrelevant”. WHAT? UT has been to 3 SEC championships since 2001. Bama has been to ONE. UF has been to 2, and UGA 3. Granted UT hasn’t won any of them, but I would hardly call UT irrelevant.
By UGAMIT
February 12, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this
Seems like Mr. Kiffin should take some cues from the proven, nationally-respected coach on his own campus: Pat Summit. Rarely in her career has it been reported Coach Summit mouth’ed off about going head to head with other coaches on just about anything. As a matter of fact, you’ll find press accounts of Coach Summitt being very respectful and supportive of other B’ball coaches under fire at their respective universities. And Summitt started coaching at age 22. Seems like someone should remind Kiffin that manners and professionalism - which Coaches Dooley, Richt, and Summitt exhibit - may be important factors in whether a SEC coach is successful in the long run. And that he should spend more time watching and learning from Coach Summit and less time in front of the microphone.
By Andy
February 12, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this
Mark I just want to say that I think you are the man. Seriously. I love reading your columns and I think you bring a lot of class, professionalism, insight, and humor to this newspaper and website. It pains me that you have to put up with so many rude comments. I wish you wouldn’t read the comments because people are so rude and mean. Please know that I think you are a top notch talent and I always enjoy reading your columns.
By Mark Bradley
February 12, 2009 4:49 PM | Link to this
Why, thanks, Andy. And I think the rudeness quotient has declined in the past 10 months. Or maybe I’ve just developed thicker skin.
By Dawg Tired
February 12, 2009 8:30 PM | Link to this
SEC Man - Last time the UGA program was mildly relevant? Let’s see does finishing #2 in the nation in the final BCS and AP Polls count as mildly relevant? Does winning the SEC Championship count as mildly relevant? Does having more wins than any other school in the SEC (the best football conference in the nation) over the last 7 years count as mildly relevant?
Obviously one of us is missing the meaning of “mildly relevant.”
Don’t bother replying. You’ve shown enough about your knowledge of football. Probably best for you to not comment in public any more.
By Last Word
February 16, 2009 4:40 PM | Link to this
Lane Kiffen’s an idiot!
I can’t wait ‘til he comes to Gainesville, September 19th and to Tuscaloosa, October 24th!