Mark Bradley

By T-Bone

October 16, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this

It’s exciting, even tantalizing, but in the end, it’s too risky. The money that could be spent on Manny could net at least 2 really good players. And the Braves have too many holes to pour that much money into one self-focused star, even if he is Manny.

For my money, I’m agreeing with DOB. Let’s go get get Jake Peavey and sign him long-term. Then let’s spend the rest of the Manny money on Sabathia.

By D-Man

October 16, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

YEAH BABY, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By MWC

October 16, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Sounds good but will never happen.He would never come here anyway.

By realist

October 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Cant wait till DOB tears this idea to shreds in his next blog.

By realist

October 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Cant wait till DOB tears this idea to shreds in his next blog.

By Brian

October 16, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

I’m not interested in a guy who pushes the Boston ‘traveling secretary’ to the ground (who is an elderly gentleman by the way) because Manny couldn’t get 15 last second tickets to an away game. Sell crazy someplace else. We’re all stocked up here.

By Are U Crazy

October 16, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Man yall are dreaming big time. If you believe this column then u believe in Santa Clause. There is no way the Braves will chase a player of Ramirez caliber. Just not in the braves to do it. Thats y this franchise will continue to suffer. Keep wishing…

By The Dope

October 16, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

NOPE

By Are U Crazy

October 16, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Man yall are dreaming big time. If you believe this column then u believe in Santa Clause. There is no way the Braves will chase a player of Ramirez caliber. Just not in the braves to do it. Thats y this franchise will continue to suffer. Keep wishing…

By diamond dave

October 16, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Waste of money on a guy past his prime. He’ll be itching for a change by year 2. If you’re going to spend money, go chase a couple of younger stars who have yet to peak.

By LivininAL

October 16, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Manny hustles for 2 months out of a career in LA Wow!!! He will sign a big contract and become a loafer again. If Manny is the oly option we are out of options. And of course we cant afford him anyway.

By Veteran Fan

October 16, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

No way! Sabathia is our target with Jake Peavy right behind! Get the pitching staff straigtened out and bring up those young line-drive hitting outfielders and we will be the Rays of 2009!

By Veteran Fan

October 16, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

No way! Sabathia is our target with Jake Peavy right behind! Get the pitching staff straigtened out and bring up those young line-drive hitting outfielders and we will be the Rays of 2009!

By Glenn

October 16, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

I’d rather have Barry Bonds (and I’d take Steve Bartman over Bonds)

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Manny Ramirez, Jake Peavy and one more solid pitcher (along with re-signing Mike Hampton, possibly John Smoltz in the bullpen and Tom Glavine as number five starter) - that would be an incredible team!

Line-up: 1. Anderson 2. K. Johnson 3. C. Jones 4. M. Ramirez 5. McCann 6. Escobar 7. Kotchman 8. Francoeur

Now THAT’S a line-up!!!

By Realist

October 16, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Manny would be great for the Braves’ lineup, and we could afford him for a year or two. But Boras is going to want 3-5 years, and that kind of commitment is a reach for the Braves.

If they could give him an Andruw Jones type deal (2 years at $18M each), I’d say jump all over it. But Boras will probably start at 4 years for $22-25M each. And at that price, we might as well go back into the market for Teixeira and trade Kotchman away. Because Tex is younger, more athletic and a better guy in the clubhouse.

By EJM

October 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Good for wishful thinkin but no chance in a million years that would happen. Yeah we do need a power hittin left feilder but i’ll rather go after Pat in Philly, Raul in Seattle or a Dunn in Arizona all these guys may not be a Manny combined but use the money of pitching and timely hittin all would be fine.

By Larry

October 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Yea, let’s pay a chubby guy with a mop on his head millions! Boy I just couldn’t wait to get to the park and buy a $5 hot dog to watch this animal!

By atown

October 16, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

No way! Manny has no chance at playing by Bobby’s rules and following the lead of Chipper, Smoltzie, etc in the clubhouse. His bat, as great as it is, is not worth the risk.

By David

October 16, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

I’d rather lose every game than have this piece of garbage on my team. Some things are bigger than just hiring the worst person possible just to get more wins.

And Scott Boras is the devil. I think we need to strongly consider never having a Boras client on this team, again.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

To those who say “No Way!” to Manny being a Brave: who else could the Braves get to get people excited again???? A number one starting pitcher (Peavy) and a big bat (Manny) could fill the seats again!!!

By SoWeGa Fanatic

October 16, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO

By Ambrose Ljubicic

October 16, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

25-30 million, most of what Wren has to spend, on a 36 year old who may or may not be a problem? Yeah, thats a great idea! Good thing you aren’t the Braves GM Mark. The Braves aren’t a contender looking to add a big bat to put them over the top. They are rebuilding. Pitching comes first, and then young players. Manny would not be a good fit.

By Supes

October 16, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

As a Braves fan of 15 years…an emphatic NO!

Let “Manny be Manny” somewhere else, like for the NY METS, Let him drain their payroll, and be a distraction in their clubhouse eventually.

There are other options to be explored.

Braves biggest needs are Starting Pitching. Address those needs first. Everything else will come in after that.

By VaBravesfan

October 16, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Ramirez is gonna be a Yankee.

By aaron

October 16, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

i wish the braves would roll the dice and pick him up, but they are so boring and predictable now, i know they won’t.

manny would help bring this team to life, excite the fan base and energize the club house with his personality. yes, it could all blow up in our faces, but after last season, how much worse could it get?

still we won’t be able to afford the guy, and that is the bottom line.

By mike

October 16, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

I would not sign him until he did something with that hideous looking mop on his head.

By used cars

October 16, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

I would much rather see us go after Ordonez in a trade and Lowe as a free agent. Manny will stay in LA or cost a team draft picks and money. Ordonez can be had reasonably and then maybe put a package for Peavy. Lowe won’t cost as much. Then we have Peavy, Juurjens, Lowe, Hanson and chose from Campillo, Reyes, Morton, Smoltz and Hampton. The lineup would be Schafer, Escobar, Chipper, Ordonez, McCann, Frenchie, Johnson and Kotchmann, depending on who’s hot…I like that lineup a lot

By Coach (Skip will be missed)

October 16, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Bradley, you’re a funny guy.

I laughed my butt off reading this one.

By Stephanie

October 16, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Manny, you have to be kidding. We can get a bat without the ego. Remember Manny said that teams would be lucky to have a player as great as he is. What?

What the braves need is two ace type pitchers to go ahead of Jurrjens and we can trade for a bat/left fielder.. Boras and his players can go straight down. They are not worth the hassle.

By Ralph

October 16, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Not only go after Manny, but try and sign Mickey Mantle. Mickey will hustle more and play longer than Manny. Why, get a trouble maker, when the Braves have enough problems. without adding a cry baby. The Braves have 2 or 3 that love the disable list, without another dead beat joining the them.

By Ralph

October 16, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Not only go after Manny, but try and sign Mickey Mantle. Mickey will hustle more and play longer than Manny. Why, get a trouble maker, when the Braves have enough problems. without adding a cry baby. The Braves have 2 or 3 that love the disable list, without another dead beat joining them.

By Carolyn

October 16, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

NO NO NO!!!! Manny would be as bad as having Barroid Bonds on the team. Bobby is getting on in years(like me) and his heart couldn’t take the strain.

By TPM

October 16, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Manny is not the type of person who would be a fit in the Cox Culture. Besides, it appears Frank Wren wants to bring back the jurassic park pitching rotation.

By pat

October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Two words describe why Manny will not be a Brave: Scott Boras. If we sign Manny, that’s all we will have, as he will be priced out of the stratosphere. I prefer a good team than single good player for a trillion dollars.

By P. Rose

October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

“Manny” by Mark Bradley

I remember dreams last night Raining down as cold as ice A shadow of a man A face through a window Crying in the night The night goes into

Morning, just another day Happy people pass my way Looking in their eyes I see a memory I never realized you made me so happy, oh Manny

Well you came and you gave without taking but I sent you away, oh Manny well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking I need you today, oh Manny

I’m standing on the edge of time I Walked away when love was mine Caught up in a world of uphill climbing The tears are in my mind And nothing is rhyming, oh Manny

Well you came and you gave without taking but I sent you away, oh Manny well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking And I need you today, oh Manny

Yesterday’s a dream I face the morning Crying on the breeze the pain is calling, oh Manny

Well you came and you gave without taking but I sent you away, oh Manny well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking And I need you today, oh Manny

By jake

October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

The Braves need to look else where. They have too many holes for an expensive contract (which will be short-term) for at least 2 decent free agents that arent part of Boras flock. We have already had 2 over-priced headcases in the outfield before and where did that get them?

By Obama voter

October 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Yes the braves need more african american playerz. We need more role models for the youths of atlanta.

By DHD

October 16, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need pitching. We have offense coming up through the system. Try for Peavy and CC. Pick up Lowe also if the money’s there. Look at the Braves of the 90s. It was about pitching.

By Sam

October 16, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

I wouldn’t take Manny, PacMan, or any other pain in the butt. I’d rather lose a hundred than win a hundred if it meant not having one of these cancers on my team. It’s a great example we set as adults by perpetualy hiring and rehiring obnoxious and non law-abiding behavior. I’m sick of the “everybody deserves a 2nd chance” cop out. How bout some accountability in sports like we have in the business world.

By Branch Rickey

October 16, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

HOW ABOUT SOME YOUNG PLAYERS ! OR AT LEAST UNDER 35 !

By EG

October 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Absolutely!! And let’s get 8 more players that only think of themselves. That would be fantastic and eliminate the team concept in one fell swoop. LA showed that one player can make all the difference in the world, didn’t they just whoop the Phillies? OH, that is right a group of guys playing as a team won the NL not a bunch of individuals from the land of fruits and nuts.

By Armando Velasco

October 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Ok Manny is one of the greatest players and his personality so unusual for a ballclub but at the same time, he might be the man who can get the best from the players around him, no one wants to get left behind by just one guy, so, if the Braves can afford him, go for it, but with a really well thought projection.

By Shell

October 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Let somebody else have Manny, his attitude, his doo-rag, his baggy trousers, and his PITA agent. There are many players out there who WANT to play ball, not just collect a fat check for half-trying. Granted Manny’s hlf-efforts are much better than a lot of others’ all, but he ain’t worth the baggage he packs along.

By roger

October 16, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

hell no, get a pitcher or 2 for that money!

By Matt the Brave

October 16, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Hey, let’s get Manny, then we’ll get Michael Vick back for the Falcons! Just a wonderful duo that would be for this city. While we’re at it, let’s get Isiah Rider back in a Hawks jersey.

By steverino

October 16, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Not only no, but H E L L NO!

By spotts

October 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

He’s a great player and I love how laid back he is, but I don’t like his age. We don’t need to be counting on two guys over 36 in the middle of the lineup. How’d that work out for the rotation last year?

By Gary

October 16, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Even if I thought Cox would welcome a guy like Manny in the clubhouse, his agent Bor-a* is a deal-breaker. The less we have to deal with him the better. One of these days players will learn money isn’t everything and hiring an agent with that philosophy may one day bite you. Let’s find another big bat in left field.

By Chuck

October 16, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

What he brings on the field is negated by a lot of baggage. He did not dress with the Boston Team. A million dollar brat. Gets tired of his team real fast. Look at other players.

By Bill

October 16, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Just a Fan

October 16, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Can you imagine Manny and Chipper Jones in the same clubhouse? Jones would have a heart attack.

By Paddy

October 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Scott Boras…enough said. Pitching and another bat for left field, it should not be Manny. Breaking the bank will not get us into the playoffs. Not enough $$ left to go after what we really need.

By Steve

October 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Spend the 20-25 mil that Manny and Boras are going to ask on CC Sabathia, still have enough coin to get Peavy, and either Bay or Burrell. Sounds like a plan.

www.banscottboras.com

By Carolyn

October 16, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Instead of Manny, spend the money to sign Chipper and bring Tex back here where he belongs!!

By swolf4810

October 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Not so sure it’d be a good idea…especially considering the “Boras factor”

By common sense

October 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

dumbest column ever probably

By Alg

October 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Surely you jest. Paying a fortune for a perpetual loose cannon makes no sense at all. Yes, Manny has big talent, but he also has way too much attitude. The clubs that succeed are the clubs where the team comes before the ego of the superstar. No Manny, no way.

By NObama

October 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

“NO!” to Obama

“NO!” to Manny

By sathefari

October 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

There is no way Wren would bring in a cancer such as ME’nny .. He should be suspended from baseball for the next 6 years along with Boras for what they did in Boston.

Some team will be foolish enough to sign him for 6 years but not the Braves, they have more sense than that.

By matt

October 16, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

doesn’t move ever. makes no sense at all to pay all your money to a guy who plays when he wants.

Where is DOB when you need him?

By MickeyMantle

October 16, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

I believe the Braves SHOULD go after Manny. Why not? The guy has over 500 home runs. How many guys in the league are have produced 500 home runs and are capable of producing 500 home runs. Very few. Manny is a CERTAIN HALL OF FAMER. Why wouldnt the Braves want to acquire a living legend Hall of famer to help them improve their ballclub and get clutch hits when they need them. I believe the Braves should have contacted Barry Bonds this season and if Manny is available, then go after him too. The Braves will NEVER return to the post-season if they dont get players who can produce. And, when they get productive players, STOP renting players short-term and giving them away to improve other organizations. Manny Ramierez, in spite of his behavior, can produce and has the credentials and the track record to prove it. He is a lifetime .300 hitter and will continue being a .300 lifetime hitter for someone else or he will be a .300 lifetime hitter in an Atlanta Braves uniform. What do you have to lose by putting Manny out there. Manny would be better than anyone else we have. Give the Man, Manny a chance. He will never disappoint with this bat, I can promise that. Just ask Joe Torre and the Dodgers.

By alan

October 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

NO. Manny is extremely dangerous. He will produce and then when things turn sour, he will just shut down!!!! Look at the history of no hustle and bad fielding!!

By Joe

October 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Through the years one consistency in the Braves org. is low tolerance of attitude cases like Lofton & Sheffield. Manny’s offense is not worth his offence!

By Robert S

October 16, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

The idea of signing a 37-year-old with a history of character and clubhouse problems is silly. Especially since Scott Boras (an agent who has systematically ruined the game) is his agent.

Do the Braves really want to pay upwards of $20+ million for the services of a player who will be 42 or 43 at the end of his contract, and whose skills will have diminished greatly by then??

Save the money, get two really good starters (Peavy should be at least one of those), and get a solid left field bat. The Braves have always been most successful with great pitching, and that should be their fist priority.

By C from Marietta

October 16, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

That’s the last thing the Braves need. They need to build again, like they did for their run in the 90s. Building from within the organization. I know it’s 21st century to get our satisfaction now, however I would rather have a decade run. Than, 3 years of Manny before he breaks down. Enough of the aged veterans. We need young players to build around. Not someone with MAYBE three years left on his contract. The Braves need starting pitching in a bad way. YOu can get offense production without spending 100 million on a guy to give you MAYBE three years.

By Matt

October 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

While I’d love to have Manny in the lineup, I agree that we’d be much better served to try and get two hot shot starting pitchers like Peavy and Sabathia. Another one we need to look into is Ben Sheets. He’s also a free agent, although I’m not sure about the status of his injury at the end of the season and if that’s a factor.

By guy

October 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Yes to Obama and yes to getting Manny. The Braves need that bat in the middle of the line up and he can also fill the empty seats in Turner Field.

By NObama!!!

October 16, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Having Manny here would be like electing the socialst/marxist “Barry” Hussein Obammy” What a grave mistake that would be. He would hide is lack of character by making a slick, shiny entrance and then it wouldn’t be too long before you are left with a handful of ‘nuttin and a feeling of being scammed! Just like you would feel with “Barry” Hussein … empty … no substance!

By MannyTrillo

October 16, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Manny Ramierez is quite different than Isiah Rider and Mike Vick. The difference between Manny and those two mentioned is that Manny will be in the Hall of Fame. Thats the biggest difference between those guys and Manny Ramierez. Many people wont like Manny because Manny is black and in our society blacks are still hated by racists basically for their skin color being darker than their white counterparts. That doesnt make sense but it still occurs. If Manny were white, then all the blogs would say, hey lets welcome Manny with open arms and that, boy what a powerful lineup that would be with Chipper and Manny in the same lineup, or can you imagine how lethal a lineup would be with Chipper and Manny hitting back-to-back in the order. The only reason that I can see why people hate Manny and his dreadlocks is that Manny is black and he cant help being black. Thats why I am hoping that Barack Obama becomes president so that we can finally end this hatred directed towards minorities and particularly black people and get rid of the hatred vented unnecessarily towards black folks who would be loved if their skin were white but are hated because their skin is black.

By Stephen

October 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

No way. The Braves need pitching. Manny might still be able to swing the bat, but a 36 year old with a questionable work ethic and a habit of disrupting clubhouses (especially the Braves clubhouse with younger players) sounds like a terrible idea. Why not resign Andruw Jones for a maximum contract? Why not see if Albert Belle wants to make a comeback?

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I’m not saying it will happen. I doubt seriously if the Braves will even consider it. What I’m saying is that, were I Frank Wren, I would consider it.

And for all Manny’s baggage, here’s the bottom line: He has two World Series rings. That’s one more than Chipper, whom I think might well welcome another big bat.

By Sam P

October 16, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

It’s a moot point when was the last time the we signed a high priced FA?

By Don

October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

All of the discussion relating to who to acquire by trades or free agency is pointless - As long as Cox continues to be the manager. As great as he is relating to maintinaing team unity etc, he is an absolute joke in terms of in game management, player development/improvement etc. To put Cox in perspective, where to you think Tampa Bay would have finished this year if he had become their manager at the end of last season??? The only way he can win is if he has at least three #1 pitchers so great that it makes it impossible to lose over the 162 game regular season. Offense in baseball is all about makeing the opposing pitcher throw a lot of pitches - allowing players to see his pitches, get good pitches to hit, make him make mistakes, tire him out, and also get into the teams weak middle relief early. Cox doesn’t have a clue- has no concept of having an offensive game plan - to say nothing of knowing how to produce runs — Also does a poor job of managing pitching - especially bull pen.

By MannySupporter

October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

For all of Mannys questionalble work habits, baggage and disrupting clubhouses all he has to show for that is 500+ home runs and a lifetime .300 batting average, A SURE SPOT IN COOPERSTOWN, and never a question of taking steriods, which is significantlly better than anyone on the Braves current roster.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

What other “solid left field bats” are out there?

By BJ

October 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

I see no reason to reward “bad behavior”. Look at the happy (HAPLESS) Cowboys!

By Don't do it

October 16, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Manny’s a hitter, but too much dama. Why trade Tex and pay Manny?

By Jarrett

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

!OYE TRILLO! In our society - like yours - whites are still hated by racists, like you, basically for their skin color being lighter than their black counterparts.

Wow! Blogging hate is easy I just take your ignorant, insecure words and invert the “colors”. I guess this is what America is talking about when they speak of hateful racists, like yourself.

Oh, by the way, Manny is Dominican - not black - Moron.

No se de donde eres, pero creo que tu cabeza esta lleno de meira y tu corazon esta lleno de odio … en serio Huevon!

By Dax

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Let’s note that along with being one of the best hitters in the game, Manny is one of the WORST fielders in the same game and there’s no tiny left field with a monster in Turner Field. Add that to the fact that he’s a raving lunatic and I say there’s no way this even gets discussed by the Braves. I like my baseball players like I like my women, sane and hot.

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

The last big free agent the Braves signed was Brian Jordan in 1998.

By Gene

October 16, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

The Braves could probably get a better deal on Barry Bonds.

By ricknole

October 16, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Manny RAMIREZ is Black?????

By PatRobertson

October 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Andrew Jones is ready for the glue factory. Andrew Jones will he reaching the scrap heap soon. The reason why you dont sign Andrew Jones to a contract is that Andrew Jones cant hit his weight and hit below .200 last year. That is why, you get spectacular glove and no clutch hits or meaningful rbis with Andrew Jones. Plus, Andrew is not good enough now to make a major league roster which is another reason why you dont sign Andrew Jones. Andrew Jones is thoroughly washed up, ancient history, well done, and completely finished.

By Johnny Danger Dawg

October 16, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

While we’re at it, why don’t we discuss the chances of the Braves building a time machine and using it to pick up Babe Ruth and Ted Williams?

By Common Sense

October 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

MannyTrillo…I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at your ridiculous rambling. Sheer stupidity in action.

No one gives a crap what color the player’s skin is. All that matters are whether or not the Braves would be a better team with or without Manny, and clearly that answer is NO!

Perhaps you were not paying attention when the Braves cut Bob Wickman(an evil white man) loose a few years ago mainly because of a bad attitude.

One player cannot make a team win, but one with a rotten attitude can make it more difficult to win.

By Tami

October 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Just say….NOOOOOO!!! Nothing against Manny in his baseball effectiveness WHEN he’s up for it. The Braves do not need any more locker room drama, which I expect will happen if he’s obtained in free agency. They’re currently rebuilding. It takes time, and cannot be accomplished in one season. Sure, it’ll be nice to have the rebuilding, for the most part, completed in time for the Braves to go back to the World Series BEFORE Cox, Chipper, Glavine & Smoltz retires. But, we as fans must be more realistic than that.

By Jim

October 16, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Yeah, right after we sign Barry. Manny, please; just what we need, a soap opera. Sign quality starting pitching, period.

By tommy

October 16, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

For argument’s sake, let’s say Manny does somehow end up becoming a Brave, and about halfway through his contract, someone in the organization doesn’t stroke his ego in the manner he’s come to expect. Will he start loafing down the baseline on a hard grounder? Will his knee/hamstring ailments suddenly flair up again? While there’s no question he’s one of the best hitters of all time, this team does not need the baggage. Please pass on dealing with that head case and work on landing some quality pitchers!

By Peecee

October 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Manny is “Mann(ic)” allright. his ego is larger than Neal Boortz’s (well, almost). Manny is another MEAngelo in the making.
What was wrong with Texiera…couldn’t he swing a bat? Ramirez is too much of a hot-dog, Manny-loving jerk. But, given the past few months with the Braves, that’s right up their alley. While we’re at it, why don’t we add “PacMan Jones?”

By Jack G

October 16, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Don

The measure of a man’s intellegence is measured by how much he agrees with your own thinking.—-You sir are a smart man.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Tommy: as long as the Braves have won two World Series by then, I don’t care what Manny is going to do! There will always be someone who will take him off the Braves’ hands!

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

If Manny’s attitude always messes up his team, how come his team almost always winds up in the playoffs?

Is he selfish? Yes. Is he odd? Yes. Does he produce? Look at the numbers. They’re astonishing.

By jim jones

October 16, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Bradley, you ought to know better than to suggest something like this. The Braves are a class organization, and would never sign a NO Class talent like Manny. But lets just suppose he did come here, he wouldn’t stick around. We need a team, not just a bunch of guys looking for their next paycheck. Look at the Devil Rays, now thats a team. Manny Ramirez is just trouble.

You really are a lemming. Why don’t you come up with something intelligent, unique, and thoughtful to say before you pose your next question? Don’t waste our time.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Tommy: as long as the Braves have won two World Series by then, I don’t care what Manny is going to do! There will always be someone who will take him off the Braves’ hands!

By Jarrett

October 16, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

I agree with Trillo. Because Manny has dreadlocks and dark skin we shouldn’t sign him. **What an idiot!

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

MB: I agree! Also: would Bobby Cox be able to somewhat control Manny? what do Manny’s teammates think of him?

By Don

October 16, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Although we do not need Manny, surely we will no go after Dunn or Pat from Philly. Who needes a .250 hitting outfielder with high strike outs, and a low OBP - just because he has some home runs. The home run is the most overrated thing in baseball. If he hits 30 home rus thats only about one every thirty at bats or about every 7 games. - And many of those home runs are with the bases empty - And if a player has high strike outs, this usually means that most of those home runs are against weak pitching - which translates to meaning they are not in close games are meaninful situations. A good high batting average, high On Base Percentage, low strike out player (without high home run totals) would be much more valuable.

By fieldofdreams

October 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

If Bobby couldn’t handle Dave Justice, he has no chance with Manny.

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox treats his players like men and lets them play. And I’ll remind you that he got along famously with Gary Sheffield, who in some ways is as odd as Manny. The difference: Manny hits in October.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Don: anybody who says that “we do not need Manny” should carefully think about what he said… surely, the Braves could use a player of Manny’s stature. Or who else do you see out there the Braves could sign and who could be a “difference maker”?

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Don: anybody who says that “we do not need Manny” should carefully think about what he said… surely, the Braves could use a player of Manny’s stature. Or who else do you see out there the Braves could sign and who could be a “difference maker”?

By Eric

October 16, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

As a Red Sox fan, all I can say is be careful what you want….. Manny is a great hitter and a great player when HE wants to be…..

The problem is when you need him the most, he will disappear into a cloud of everyone is against him, he hates your city, your fans and the front office. All hit, no field and a distraction, not worth using up your budget for one spoiled player. There are too many good players available this year to waste it all on Manny. Be smart focus on pitching and speed on the bases and hope your rival takes him so that he drives the crazy and not your team.

By Willy

October 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Absolutely not. Why can’t we follow the Rays’ line and develop players and trade for young, good ones. We used to do that (i.e., 1991). Texeira was a dud, whose to say Manny won’t be. I want players who play hard and understand that the game is bigger than any player. Too much for not enough payoff. Think about it, GermanBravesFan.

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

BravesFan79… I think that comment was uncalled for and has nothing to do with the subject at hand!

MB: that is what I thought… Bobby sure should be able to deal with Manny. I don’t agree with what he did in Boston and I was as angry at the guy’s behavior as many other people. Bottom line is: the Braves NEED someone on this team who can create excitement again! I am sure most of the Braves players would not mind having Manny on the team. From what I have read, hardly any of the Red Sox players had a problem with Manny in the clubhouse.

By Hoosier Aaron

October 16, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

When Manny retires he should immediately enter the “World Series of Poker”…the guy is a serious poker player. Manny is what he needs to be when he needs to be it. He is at the plate what Tom Brady is in the pocket - ICE COLD.

He is one of the very few players who you feel like is so good (at the plate) that he’s just toying with the pitcher. Make just ONE mistake and you’ll pay. He is a serious BEAST.

All that being said - I’ll take Josh Hamilton.

By JD Keiss

October 16, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Not just no, but HECK NO!

By MSC Brave

October 16, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

The Braves have to many needs to fill and don’t need the personality disorder that is ManRam.

FW must sign CC Sabathia first. He has to be the priority. He’s not as injury prone as J. Peavy. If we could get Peavy too, that would be great.

We need a closer too. Has everyone forgotten about that? That’s been our problem forever. We need a closer, not a wannabe and that needs to be the other priority. Go back over the years and look at how many games the Braves have lost becuase they didn’t have a great closer!

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

MSCBrave: Sabathia will demand $22 million per year while Peavy’s contract is much more affordable and it would leave room for two more major acquisitions. Manny at $20 million per year plus Peavy would leave quite a bit of $$$ to sign another solid starting pitcher. It is time for the Braves to make a splash!!!

We already have a closer in Gonzalez (possibly another one IF Smoltz comes back)!

By siskel

October 16, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

How many of these Manny lovers were b*** earlier in the season to give the young guys a chance? Start Schafer in center, platoon B. Jones and Diaz in left, pray for Francouer to bounce back, trade Escobar and KJ with other prospects in a deal for Peavy, start Infante and Prado in place of those two, and sign a Derek Lowe or Jon Garland. Take a few lumps this year but field a decent team don’t blow all your money just to spend it. This team is still far away and after next season you field a starting rotation of Peavy, Hudson, Lowe or Garland, JJ, and possibly one of our young guys figures it out, if not sign someone else. Manny is a pipe dream and were just not even close to competing next year. If we trade Heyward, Freeman, our Schafer than Frank Wren just doesn’t get it.

By Amazed

October 16, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

This free agency spending thing is a slippery slope. Look at the Yankees for example. Where has spending big on free agents gotten them? No where, same goes for Seattle. The answer lies in developing the farm system and scouting, ask Tampa and Minnesota. Tampa has figured it out and Minnesota has been doing it for years. The Braves have not developed/retained a quality starter in YEARS! (Horatio Ramirez, Chuck James, Jason Marquis, Jason Schmidt, Kevin Millwood, Kyle Davies, Adam Wainwright). Or a position player for that matter, besides McCann, jury still out on Kelly Johnson and Yunel (Francouer is a bust). Don’t resign our aging pitching staff, time to let go, and get compensated with draft picks. Gotta start from square one. The two teams in the WS did it with player development, Philly & Tampa/Bos.

By fieldofdreams

October 16, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

I’ll never forget when Justice was traded; even my elderly grandmother, who was blind from cataracts, but listened to the games religiously, knew it was a mistake. Sure, Justice was a militant creep who thought every Southerner belonged to the KKK, but god, he had a sweet swing. But Manny’s worse. Can you imagine Bobby’s reaction if he was to take right field using a walker?

By Lew

October 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Hey-Why not just go out and sign Manny, Sheffield and Barry Bonds. A true Hall Of Fame group of malcontents. Just what the Braves need.

By fieldofdreams

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Since when do Germans know anything about baseball?

By Tyger

October 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

This dead franchise could use him but Manny is too “free” for this hillybilly franchise.

By BravesFan79

October 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Obama voter October 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this Yes the braves need more african american playerz. We need more role models for the youths of atlanta

Wow…. i guess your in favor of Atlanta teams getting Lastings “i love to rap about killing people and being poor even thou im a millionare” Milledge, Elijah “my 6th illigimite child is with a 17 year old” Dukes, Pacman “i make it rain, but i need that $$ back” Jones and Josh “im black, i dont celebrate that american flag sht” Howard 2 huh?

I think the only dumb statement you left out was “OJ IS INNOCENT, the glove didnt fit!”
If you want some REAL rolemodels look at Dikembe Mutombo, or Bill Cosby! You know…the pple yall diss as uncle toms because they speak the truth…..

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

I should probably note that the Braves actually employed Gary Sheffield and tried hard to sign Barry Bonds 16 years ago. It would seem they’re not above a little baggage when it suits their purposes.

By JT

October 16, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I know this is a bolg and you can express whatever view you have but some of these ‘views’ are just plain STUPID. Manny’s stats before he left the Red Sox and after going to the Dodgers aren’t much different, if there’s any, at all(just ask the Red Sox now). People are believing the news again, when will you EVER learn? The news only prints HALF the truth, it’s their job, to sensationalize. Manny’s a stud, a professional hitter, and to say that the Braves wouldn’t benefit from someone of his cailber is ludicrous!! His hitting appraoch is second to none, he studies pitchers, their tendencies and he’s able to implement that during his at-bat. The question should be, when the hell are they going to get rid of Bobby Cox??? I like coach, don’t get me wrong, but his tide has slipped away…a LONG time ago! The changes HAVE TO START WITH HIM….

By GermanBravesFan

October 16, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

FIELDOFDREAMS: ever since I got hooked on the game and started following it with a passion. Now, that does not make me an expert, but I am passionate about it. I love the Braves and would love to see them go out and spend some money on someone everybody can get excited about! Right now, they have a lot of money available and could get a great hitter AND a top-level pitcher (or even two!)!

By Drew101

October 16, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

yeah it would be great to have him but the braves would never dish out the money for him.. they wouldnt even dish out the money for Mark T.

By MannyTrillo

October 16, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Many of you are overreacting to Manny Ramierez and acting as though Manny is a Manic-depressive. Manny is not manic, but manny is money, which is evidenced by his greatness and his clutch hitting skills. When Manny is at the plate with runners in scoring position, most of the time manny is automatic and is as clutch as it gets in those situations. I was watching the Phillies/Dodgers game the other day and Manny came up to the plate to hit with runners in scoring position. Manny belted the first pitch and drove in runners at second and third and it looked as though he did it so effortlessly with his swing. Hey, Manny is really that good. The only problem with Manny is that he is black and wears dreadlocks and this puts a curse on his life or causes people to hate him or react negatively to Manny, but as I pointed out once before, Manny is Money and always remember that. Look up his numbers and you will find that they are astonishing! Ill go one step beyond that and say Id rather have Manny Ramierez on my team than Alex Rodriguez. A-Rod has been chasing a world series ring the longest time and he thought that when he signed with the Yankess from the Texas Rangers he was sure to get his ring. But A-Rod cant get a ring because he is not as clutch a hitter as Manny Ramierez, which is why Manny has multiple world championship rings where A-Rod has none and A-Rod will never have any rings because A-Rod isnt even half the player that Manny is. Manny will ALWAYS give you your monies worth when you watch him play. Manny would probably refund your money himself if he felt you were cheated out of your money after watching him play baseball. In my opinion, Manny Ramierez is the most talented and best player in the major leagues today.

By kirknga

October 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Good point about Shef playing here without incident Mark.

The answer is yes to considering Manny if you are serious about putting the top talent on the field. His continued performance in the playoffs should be enough to anyone who watched the Braves fail to win a championship 13 of 14 tries.

The guy is quirky no doubt. But for most of his time in Boston, his teammates and fans loved him. And if you believe the Braves don’t have players who loaf on occasion, then you haven’t been paying attention.

For all the frustration, Manny seems to be a good citizen. I don’t ever recall his name on a police blotter as I have with some in the Braves organization, nor have I seen his name is the tabloids as he seems to go home to his family every night.

The Braves need a player(non pitcher) who can produce and produce under pressure, and Manny is such a player.

By BravesFan79

October 16, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Tyger: yea we might be considered hill billys….but at least we know how to spell Tiger. U feel me…. cuz?

By will

October 16, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

HECK NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

By JB

October 16, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

People-

Take note to what the Devil Rays have done! Young Talent is what we need! Don’t waste your money on Mr. Super Ego. Does the name Gary Sheffield or Andruw Jones ring a bell?

By Danny M

October 16, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

I would hate having Manny on the team. He showboats. He is not a team player. He is a perfect Scott Bora$ client by every means. All he cares about it money, and he is at least in the top 3 of most egotistical players in all of baseball, if not the top. We can get power somewhere else. I say the most important thing to do is to work out a deal for Peavy (without involving Hanson or Heyward out of the players mentioned) and getting someone like Lowe (maybe not him specifically, but someone comparable to him). We can figure things out from there.

By Chaz

October 16, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Manny Ramirez has lots of personality… the kind that would keep me away from even more games in 2009.

I’d rather lose. Nope, no sir, not a chance.

By Marc

October 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Would I like to see Manny in a Braces uniform? Absolutly. His problem in Boston was with management; wth individuals. As was made clear in LA, he’s a guy whom other players love being around and who will throw his fists up when the team needs him. He IS a team player - combine that with his talent and he’s a win-win.

Now, the obvious problem here is the money he’d be commanding. If Bobby brings one advantage to the Braves it’s his reputation as being a good guy to play for, and we have gotten great deals on players in the past thanks to this reputation. If we could do it for a 3 year 66mil (22mil a year) contract with an option for a fourth year, I think we should go for it. No two players at 11mil a year will give you what Manny does for 22.

So either

Sign Manny, Trade for a starter, sign a starter, and sign a reliever

Or, if that’s too tight on the budget

Sign Baldelli, Trade for a couple starter prospects, and sign a handful of younger/overlooked free agents that have potential to be a big part of our future if we can mature them. Then use extra cash to lock up guys you want in a Bravse outfit for an extended length of time.

I think you either have to go all out or start stocking up.

By BravesFan79

October 16, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

“The only problem with Manny is that he is black and wears dreadlocks and this puts a curse on his life”

Funny….i had a best friend i played hoops with in highschool that had dreads. He never felt the urge to push old people down stairs, or totally destroy the team he was on by lack of hustle and b*** like a little girl.
But I guess he wasnt “cursed” like what your claiming manny is thou huh……

By A.S.

October 16, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

No! I would not pursue Manny.

He is one of the best hitters to play the game but his defense and attitude are terrible. Manny has matured in LA but maybe its just a show. We do not need his “Manny being Manny” attitude around our younger guys.

Get Dunn or trade for Maggs.

By BTITH

October 16, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

It’s all about the pitching, stupid! Young, good pitching. Get rid of these old farts and rebuild this team right.

By Supes

October 16, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

*Mark *

It’s not going to happen b/c

I don’t get the point of this article Mark, you are living in FANTASY baseball land. Why don’t you focus on something realistic…like starting pitching the Braves can obtain.

Oh I get it, mention Manny/Braves in an article you get 200 reply’s in less than a day, so it’s all about that. Maybe write about a player the Braves will actually consider going after, like Derek Lowe, Roy Oswalt, C.C. Sabathia or Jake Peavy. DOB is one upping you on online blogs b/c he isn’t living in fantasy baseball land and actually discussion realistic scenarios.

By James Munson

October 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

I say do it! Someone said Sabathia was our #1 target, dont think so. Hes darn near 300 lbs and i dont see it justifiable giving him a 6-7 year deal worth 200-250 million. Santana, yes, Sabathia, no. If we get Manny, not only would he solve the right handed power we need, he would sell tickets. That means more money for the next few years. I say do it asap! Then trade for Peavy and sign either Dempster, Lowe(though we dont need a guy that old for a staff that went through what ours did last season), or Galand. Bounce back year from Frenchy and we dominate the NL!!

By MJankolovits

October 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Who cares if the guy wears “baggy trousers, a doo-rag, and dreads?” Manny is a flat-out hitting machine who doesn’t miss games. The Braves would be lucky to have him anchor their lineup - but it’ll never happen.

By 1eyedJack

October 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Pass

By Cincy Brave

October 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Manny a Brave? Give me a break. The Brave are not a hitter away from the playoffs, this team is in desperate need of pitching and Manny and his agent Boras would deplete the Brave payroll for years. Boras = Agent = overpriced!

By BL

October 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Terribly thought out article. (Keep in mind we lost 4 starting pitchers for extended time). The penny-pinching Braves would never go after the highest priced free agent on the market, no matter how much they “have opened the checkbook.”

He needs to go to the AL and DH so he can hopefully slowly be forgotten like Sheffield.

By Previous Ryan Skeptic

October 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Johnny Danger Dawg, in order to make time travel possible we will need a DeLorean, a flux capicitor and some tubes of plutonium. It may be difficult to acquire plutonium so we may need to find an alternate way to channel the 1.21 gigawatts necessary for the flux capicitor to successfully operate. Only one problem though. Once we have successfully gone back in time we would have to decide on who we’re actually going to bring back. It’s highly unlikely Babe Ruth will be able to fit in the DeLorean. However, Ted Williams would fit perfectly. Ted on the roster would definitely generate the much needed revenue to build a decent team around him. Can you say consecutive World Series championships? Unfortunately, we could possibly create a time paradox by doing this. Has anyone seen Doc Brown?

By Alex

October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

I’m a recent transplant from Boston, a die hard Red Sox fan. Manny is a great hitter, and has become a bad man to have on a team. His antics were amusing, until his agent convinced him to throw tantrums to get his way.

2004 he was incredible, before and after as well. But he’s a loose cannon these days.

As a note, I’m starting to fall for the Braves. Good kids. Good team, they’ve got potential.

By mike

October 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

HOOORAYYYYY TO YOU BRAVES FAN79 !!!!!! TELL IT LIKE IT IS> obama voter your a JOKE. GET OFF THIS SPORTS BLOG !!!!!!!

By Matt

October 16, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

How about we get back to what got us to the playoffs for 14 consecutive years, strong pitching and defense. I miss the days of the Lemke’s, Blauser’s, and Belliard with his 2 carrier homeruns. It’s all about offence now (chicks dig the long ball right?) and it started with moving Chipper to left and signing Castillo and Sheffield. We had something like 4 or 5 guys hit over 40 hr’s that year and we fizzled in the playoffs. Bring on Peavy and Lowe and a fast slick fielding left fielder and lets get back to winning the East.

By Ross

October 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Sign Manny…he would be a bigger flop than Andrew Jones …also he would wear his welcome with the fans much quicker than M.Vick and Deon. Ross

By Matt

October 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

How about we get back to what got us to the playoffs for 14 consecutive years, strong pitching and defense. I miss the days of the Lemke’s, Blauser’s, and Belliard with his 2 carrier homeruns. It’s all about offence now (chicks dig the long ball right?) and it started with moving Chipper to left and signing Castillo and Sheffield. We had something like 4 or 5 guys hit over 40 hr’s that year and we fizzled in the playoffs. Bring on Peavy and Lowe and a fast slick fielding left fielder and lets get back to winning the East.

By Lester

October 16, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

No-way only owner pay for player’s like this !

By MagicMike

October 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

By Obama voter

October 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Yes the braves need more african american playerz. We need more role models for the youths of atlanta.

Manny isnt an african american you moron

By Bk Hawk

October 16, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Marc, Do you keep up with Baldelli? He has health problems and may never play much anymore.

Mark, I agree with you on Manny but not on Cox. Need I say more. It will be a great day when Cox is gone.

By Barnesy

October 16, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Dare to dream that The Braves would chase any quality free agents. A review of the past would indicate a few more years of futility.

By MagicMike

October 16, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

By Obama voter

October 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Yes the braves need more african american playerz. We need more role models for the youths of atlanta.

I agree that the Braves need more African-Americans but Manny isnt an African-American you moron

By bobby

October 16, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Not no, but hell no. Unless, of course, we can trade Bobby Cox and TP for him.

By Jt

October 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Two words: HELL NO!!!!!!

By twinman

October 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Manny is a cancer. He is about Manny and only Manny. He represents everything that is wrong about a lot, not all but a lot of pro athletes these days. TO, do you hear me ?

By steve

October 16, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

I’d rather the Braves dig up Rafael Ramirez over signing Manny Ramirez.

Manny almost killed the Sox with his attitude and laziness before being “rejuvenated” in LA. There is no way to tell which Manny you would get. That is a lot of $ for a big gamble.

By Tech Fan in UGA Country

October 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

No way. Just the fact that the Red Sox were willing to get rid of him says enough. He has proven he is not worth the aggravation. Use the money on PITCHING, PITCHING, and MORE PITCHING!

By Joshhh

October 16, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

no thank you.

By LackLuster

October 16, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

It would be nice and exciting to have someone like Manny in the lineup because over the past few years, the Braves have gotten down right boring to watch and I am a huge fan. We lack the big names that we had in the past years. It’s almost as if we are not even relevant in the East anymore. Let’s turn it around Braves

By WP

October 16, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

NOT ONLY NO BUT H—L NO

By Maniac is accurate

October 16, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

“Me, I’d chase him to the ends of the Earth.”

That’s taking the man crush a bit too far isn’t it, Bradley?

By LP

October 16, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

No Manny! Thinking young talent .. consider B.J. Upton.

By Najeh Davenpoop

October 16, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Yeah, the team that was so unsure of signing Teixeira that they didn’t even bother trying is gonna make a run at Manny. Right. Slow news day, Bradley?

By LackLuster

October 16, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

It would be nice and exciting to have someone like Manny in the lineup because over the past few years, the Braves have gotten down right boring to watch and I am a huge fan. We lack the big names that we had in the past years. It’s almost as if we are not even relevant in the East anymore. Let’s turn it around Braves

By Keith Helms

October 16, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

If I am not mistaken, this trash is a Venezuelan. He should not be allowed a work visa for this country. If he and all others from that communist country do not use all the money earned in this country to kill Chavez and his cohorts they are enemies of this country.

By KnowshonHauls

October 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

I would love to see Manny being Manny in ATL. Too bad it isn’t going to happen!

By Jake

October 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

NO!

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October 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

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October 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

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By anotherbrave

October 16, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Manny would fit in with the Raiders better. He could man up the side opposite of MeAngelo.

By theBest_UnknownRookie

October 16, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

The Braves suck,, If Manny came to the Braves, it would be only for one year. And then he would be traded..

By REALIST

October 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Mr bradley; you need to face the fact that the Braves will never contend again as long as Wren and Liberty Media are in charge. No new players of ANY quality will be signed as long as they are here.

By what_for

October 16, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Just say “NO” to Manny. Why bother with the incredible inflated salary. Do what the Braves did in 1990 - go for young-developed talent; not some 36 year old who will only be viable for just another year or 2.

By TDub

October 16, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Mark,

Uh, no.

By hvlbravesfan

October 16, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Manny probably wouldn’t with the Braves. But an interesting point has been raised. Where have all the black ATL players gone? The only black player(prospect) I have seen recently is Brandon Jones. I think he would make a great lf with speed to boot. He proved himself late this season. Based on the demographics of the greater ATL area, management should be looking at more black players. Contrary to popular belief, black folks do like and watch baseball. I grew up thinking baseball was the only sport to do. I am 48 now and I still love the game and respect the game. All I am saying is it would be nice to see some black ballplayers on the Braves roster. By the way, I am black. “Respect the game and the rest will follow.”

By Val

October 16, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Nope. Too risky. First time he gets an attitude, the Braves will have wasted their money. Team doesn’t need a primadona and morale problems that come with it.

By Voice of Reason

October 16, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

At this stage in his career, no way, no how. Manny’s problem is that he never had is a$$ whipped earlier in his career and his entire success has been based on his ability to hit the baseball. Defensively, the guy reeks. Manny’s always been treated with “kid gloves” and nobody ever had the nads to tell him that he needed to do things the right way or else. If he felt the least bit “threatened” he pout like a little kid.

The Braves need to be working very hard at getting younger. The great run that they were on has run its course along with the veteran players that have and had been stalwarts during that time. This team can’t continue to hold onto the past in an effort to rekindle the past. As was evidenced this year, more than any other that I can remember, in recent Braves memory, the injury bug did this team in. Injuries and age coincide with one another, so the front office needs to recognize this and decide to go through growing pains with the younger guys, or stick with the broken down heroes of the last 15 years and experience the same next year.

There comes a time in all careers when one must step aside so that the young guns can perform their magic and I think that time has come for the Braves. The “game” was not meant to be played by “old” guys. Lets give the young guys a chance to shine.

By Jarrett Irish-American

October 16, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

**To anyone who uses hyphenated ethnicities like African-American to cover up vast insecurities and fragile inferiority complexes should take note that Manny is Dominican. Morons! Our hard earned tax dollars going to educate the uneducationable … like “NObama Voter”. I want my tax dollars back!!

By Brianob

October 16, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Oh, yeah, brilliant. Manny would be a great fit in the Atlanta clubhouse. WTH are you smoking? Seriously….

By AceCometh

October 16, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

He’d be a waste of money. The moment something doesn’t go right, he’d revert to “Manny being Manny”. As cliche and over used as the saying is, it’s also the only way of describing his self loathing ways that lead to Boston showing him the door. The Braves don’t need that negativity and they sure don’t need to support Scott Boras.

By Nancy Clough

October 16, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Don’t touch Manny….waste of money. He is not reliable. He totally faked injuries the last few months in Boston. Lied about being hurt. He is not a team player and will not make for a good clubhouse enviroment. Please, please, Braves…..look at someone else. NO MANNY. I don’t think he is Bobby’s kind of player, either.

By Terh Datassup

October 16, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

The Braves need to hunt for another manager before they start looking for players. Time for chnage..

By Jeff R

October 16, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Granted, oomph and personality would certainly be an advantage to the vanilla Braves, but bad attitude is another thing - or so that seems what Manny is about at times. Too bad Ivan Rodriguez wasn’t younger; he’s what the Braves need: a spark plug.

By Mark Bradley

October 16, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

To reiterate: I’m not saying it will happen. I don’t think there’s much of a chance the Braves would even consider Manny. But if I were Frank Wren, I would. In my view, there are two truly great hitters in all of baseball. Albert Pujols is one. Manny’s the other.

By T'VILLE DAWG

October 16, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

I bet the Bravos can afford Ramirez and Sabathia, remember they are 20 mill lighter without the Albatross known as Andruw Jones, by the way did you notice that L.A. got a .153 season average for the 18 million they spent. He had 30 hits all year and about 15 or 20 RBI with 2 homeruns.

By T'VILLE DAWG

October 16, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

I bet the Bravos can afford Ramirez and Sabathia, remember they are 20 mill lighter without the Albatross known as Andruw Jones, by the way did you notice that L.A. got a .153 season average for the 18 million they spent. He had 30 hits all year and about 15 or 20 RBI with 2 homeruns.

By Keeper

October 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Mark,

Funny, as soon as I read your column, I thought of the precedent set by the Braves in pursuit of another offensive juggernaut left fielder with a me-first attitude and mediocre defense, one Barry Bonds. Then you mentioned the same in your reply to other posters.

I still recall Peter Gammons - back when Baseball Tonight bothered to follow the Braves (and thus was still relevant to Braves fans) - brought Bonds and Schuerholz together on live TV and all but tried to negotiate a deal. Everyone KNEW the Braves were going to get Bonds. Days later, Schuerholz stunned the world by signing Maddux instead, a move completely out of, ahem, left field.

This was before PEDs blew up, of course. Yet even if one puts on rose-colored glasses and chooses to believe that Bonds has been unfairly prosecuted, any rational observer could agree that the Braves did the right thing by prioritizing Maddux over Bonds.

We need Wren to emulate his mentor. If we’re going to believe in these Braves again - in 2009, not 2012 - we need another stunning coup. We need a modern-day Maddux.

By Hoosier Aaron

October 16, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

I’m not really interested in getting in a racial discussion as it relates to my favorite baseball team.

HOWEVER, I made a trip down Interstate 64 to Lexington, Ky this summer just to see the Rome Braves play the Lexington Legends. Why, you ask?

Two words - Jason Heyward.

Clear out a locker gentleman - Mr. Heyward is coming soon!

Just for the record - Jason Heyward represented the Braves organization very well that day.

We had recently returned from a trip to Myrtle Beach - yes, we saw the Pelicans. My son was wearing his new Pelicans hat. He walked up to the fence near where Jason was standing. He asked Jason to autograph is Pelicans hat. Jason replied, “When we finish here, I’ll be glad too.” He immediately found my son after they were finished.

By RS

October 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

What kind of sports writer are you? Any minuscule amount of reasoning and research can yield the conclusion that the Braves aren’t going to get Manny, which is the right decision.

By Random

October 16, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Some “collateral damage” (unintended consequences) to signing Ramirez:

Cox retires in the middle of next season;

Chipper signs a free agent DH contract with an AL team after next season (and perhaps is even traded at the trade deadline to an AL contender);

Glavine retires before next season;

Smoltz signs a free agent contract with Houston;

Braves win; attendance soars.

It’ll never happen.

By alan from Atlanta GA.

October 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Manny Ramirez NEVER. We had a shot at an excellent player in Mark Texiera and got rid of him. I would have preferred him to Ramiraz. The Braves don’t like players who stand out. They prefer players who are emotionless, businesslike and dour. Until bobby Cox leaves as well as some of his henchman the braves will not be a fun team to watch. BOYCOTT THE BRAVES IN 09

By MannyDeLauria

October 16, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

What collateral damage is there to signing Ramierez? NONE WHATSOEVER. All hes ever going to do is produce the same way he has produced during his illustrious Hall of Fame career: lifetime stats: 500+ home runs; .300 career lifetime hitter. Manny will continue producing these numbers for whatever uniform he puts on, whether it is an Atlanta Braves uniform, or a Toledo Mudhens uniform; Manny will be Manny and that is pretty darn good.

By Tim Scott

October 16, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

STOP PLEASE YES MANNY CAN HIT MANNY IS ALSO A TOTAL FLAKE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU WILL GET FROM DAY TO DAY. OK THE BRAVOS NEED A BIG BAT IN THE LINE UP AGREED. BUT CAN WE AT LEAST PURSUE ONE THAT IS REPRESENTED BY DARTH VADER (BORAS) AND WHO HAS ALL HIS MARBLES. THIS GUY IS 6 FRENCH FRIES SHORT OF A HAPPY MEAL.

By MannyMota

October 16, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Manny bashers: yall have not even looked as Mannys upside potential. Taking into account that he ALREADY has 500+ career home runs, there is a very good chance that if Manny takes good care of himself, he may play until he is 50 years old. Manny has always proven his critics wrong, so say for instance that Manny played for another 13 years and averaged 32 home runs a year for that period of time; Manny would finish his career with approximately 900 home runs, which would supplant Barry Steroid Bonds as the all-time home run leader of all times. There is a distinct possibility that in Manny Ramierez you may be looking at the future all-time home run king for an entire career. So be careful how you slam Manny Ramierez because I believe hes better than most people think he is whether you are a Manny-supporter or a Manny-hater.

By hvlbravesfan

October 16, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

So Hoosier Aaron, is this Jason Heyward a stud? And if I may inquire, is he black? Nothing racial intended. I just wanted to know if this is the kid the Braves signed either last year or this year out of ATL or somewhere close. I can’t recall exactly where. He is about 6’5”” and a beast at 1b.

By JohnnyTide

October 16, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Might as well get him. He is no more nasty looking that Chippie and some of the others. I quit watching basball after the 92 strike. At least in football, you can’t see if their face is nasty looking.

By Hoosier Aaron

October 16, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

hvlbravesfan

That was pretty much my point by talking about Heyward - when I referenced race as it relates to my favorite team.

The night I was in Lexington - Heyward was in RF. He DH’d one game of the series and was a PH in two games.

He is a big strong kid - nice stroke. The kid definitely has self-confidence at the plate. I’m not sure where he will ultimately play in Atlanta. RF, LF or 1B - but it won’t be long.

By Eric

October 16, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

DON’T BOTHER. I’m A Sox Fan — relocated to ATL from Massachusetts a few years ago. As such I followed this story closely. Manny’s personality & lifestyle OFF THE FIELD are best suited to LA’s la-la land style of living. Manny blamed lifestyle issues off-the-field while in Boston for his unhappiness & lack of production on-the-field. Manny needs to live in la-la land as that best suits his personality & has contributed to him being a ‘young 36 years old’ player who can produce HUGE numbers. Manny would be unhappy living in ATL & therefore would not produce for the Braves. Manny is extremely happy in LA & should therefore become a Dodgers franchise player. He will continue to produce for the Dodgers for the remainder of his career.

Red Sox Nation is GLAD this guy is out of our clubhouse & that he has found his inner peace somewhere else. Consider this fair warning to Braves fans.

By AdirondackDave

October 16, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

T-Bone is right, it’s all about pitching. Trade for Peavy and throw a zillion dollars at Sabathia. The addition of those two guys gets the Braves into the playoffs and maybe the WS.

You heard it here.. second.

By William

October 16, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Hell yeah we should sign Manny. This team needs someone with some character. I say sign Manny and Jake Peavy. Of course I don’t have to write the checks. I had already been thinking we should go for Manny. The guy carried the Dodgers to the playoffs almost by himself. The guy is a hitting machine. Texeira was a GREAT guy, but I’d take Manny’s bat of his ANY DAY!!!! What would Chipper have hit with Manny behind him this year?

By dl

October 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

no multi year contracts

sparky anderson said

give me a team on the last year of their contract and I will win the world series every year

By Kentavo

October 16, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Hey genius - they can’t sign Peavy, he’s under contract.

By HB Ando

October 16, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Seriously, if you’re going to offer major money, to a Boras client, wouldn’t the most basic of logic point towards bringing Tex back? Younger, more professional, desired by Chipper.

Manny is great. But, with his performance in LA, seemingly at the flip of a switch, how could any team not question his effort, with each mini-slump or ‘sore knee’ day?

And, with the significant reduction in steroids and HGH, in baseball, 36 is old again. With proper drug testing, the days of guys like Bonds and Clemens, dominating into their 40’s, has ended.

If the Braves are going to spend top dollar on a bat, go bring Tex back. Let Manny “go be Manny” for the Yankees.

By sport

October 16, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

JUST ASK THE BOSTON ORGANIZATION IF THAT CANCER NEEDS TO BE ON A TEAM

By Rob

October 16, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

No thanks. After the Mike Vick debacle, Atlanta has had enough classless figures on its sports teams.

By James Munson

October 16, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

For all the people sayin go young and look at where the rays are, it took them what, 10-15 years to get where they are now? Like 7 Number 1 picks in the drafts? Basically, you are saying, Braves, stink it up for a while then we’ll be in the postseason again!! Stupid!

By Tommy

October 16, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

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If you know anything at all about BASEBALL Pitching wins and defense wins games. They should wave good bye to Tom Glavin what a terrible move to bring him back. It was heart felt but he is over the hill. CC is on the market go after him … wave goodbye to Hampton, what a looser, They gave away Texeria … lame brain move, a monster switch hitter, young healthy kid home grown, Kotsy was and is terrible so lost nothing there. Smoltz is a maybe, They need a pitching and hitting coach as much as anything. Terry P. has not helped the team in his role as hitting coach, just because you are a former Brave don’t make you a good / great coach. Cut the ties and move on. The moves they been making lately they will resign Andruw Jones from LA, for about 10 Mil a year to LA keep Manny. LA is about to sue Andruw for player frued. They thought he could hit!! We new he couldn’t …

By Joe

October 16, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

No. The Braves should not even go after Manny what they should do is go after two pictures first John Garland from LAA and Derek Lowe from LAD.

Second as for hitters I would say try to go after Vladimir Guerrero or maybe Bobby Abreu.

By Philliesuk

October 16, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Yeah, just ask Boston if they would like Manny back. Of course they would. They were much better with him than without him.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but…I would consider it too. Personally, I don’t think he was a ‘cancer’ in the clubhouse. He IS a prima donna, but then again, he’s one of the most dangerous and feared hitters in baseball.

For years, the Braves have liked this ‘good guy’ image, and as a result, we have passed on a lot of players. Sometimes this made sense, and sometimes it didn’t. I actually think the Braves could maybe use someone like Manny Ramirez.

Look back at our two years with Sheffield. Remember what a ‘bad guy’ he was? He turned out to not be a risk at all, and he was one of the best players the Braves have ever had (see 2003).

I know that it’s not economically feasible to get Manny, since he will be paid about $23 mil/year, and that would only leave us with $17 mil for two top-notch starters. At least it’s fun to dream.

By R1U

October 16, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Manny belongs in NY or LA —glamor cities —- Atlanta doesn’t even support its team in the playoffs — they loaf and don’t care why should he come here? Just say no….Manny. Go to NY or stay in LA and merengue!!!

By Tommy

October 16, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

I agree 10000 % let Manny go to the Yankees and bring Tex back. Sign someone with some heart. Go after CC for pitching and bring back Big Tex. cut Glavine, and Hampton both are dead weight.

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

it ain’t just Manny we don’t want BORA$$ don’t need a six year 23 mil a year contract for a 37 year old.To the flake who brought race into the mix get a freakin’ life. we ran off Rocker and i believe he was as white as they came. Manny can hit but his fielding leaves much to be wanted. Manny as a Brave is not a good fit but is an intriguing thought. Nah.

By Tomas

October 16, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Bradley….You are crazy. First off 5 years for 85 million, for a guy who is 37, no way. They also don’t have the money, they need to use it on pitching. And last Bobby Cox would never allow it. When he was asked what he thought of Milton Bradley signing with the Braves, he shruged his face and immediatly thought about what happen when he confronted a royals broadcaster. There is a reason why the Braves don’t have weird dudes, and that is BC. The Braves need a bat, but pitching is more of a priority than paying too much for a 37yr old dude. Remember they need a temporary solution.

When you say no personality, what do you mean? You mean they don’t have exciting players like Jose Reyes who generate emotion, or pitches thrown at him. Lasting Milledge(celebrating with fans after he homers), Manny Ramirez(inventing injuries, waiting forever after he hits a high fly ball to run, having Bob Marley type hair). And having personality in a very bad way like Elijah Dukes(threatining to kill his wife, being angry with fans), personality is not a good thing. Chipper has personality(loves to play, laughs at his hits or turning a dp in SS his old position), Smoltz(is very competitve, wants to play CF, likes hitting and is determined to get more hits than glavine) has personality. You might remember when Smoltz, and Chipper actually got in argument, when smoltz indirectly called Chipper a weakling who cannot play through any injury, but both of them resolved thankfully.

Trust me, the Braves don’t need Manny, I’d prefer Pat Burrel and Jake Peavy or Derek Lowe.

By big o

October 16, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

I would go for someone else. I would also try to bring Tex back the kid we got has no power. I would try to work a deal with L.A. to pay most of A. Jones salary and bring him back for one hell of a rebound year they would go for it

By James Munson

October 16, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Man, people need to really pay attention to results for teams and not JUST player stats. people are calling for us not to sign manny and bring Tex back. Umm, how far did Tex take us? What about the Angels? Everyone one said the Angels got Tex for the post season. Not the regular season, that was wrapped up in May. He did not produce and was not a Championship winning type player. Manny?? He carried the Sox in 04 and in the ALCS last year. Get the guy who has been there, produced, and has 2 rings for his fingers. DOB is reporting that the Braves have had discussions with the Pads for Peavy, with us giving up a few prospects, 3 i believe. Id pull the trigger right away. I mean, he mentioned a deal for Peavy that included Escobar or Kelly, plus 2-3 prospects from a pool of the likes of Morton. I am a HUGE Escobar fan, but would trade him and Morton and Flowers for Peavy in a heartbeat. Then, some of you are saying to sign Dunn or Bobby Abreu. While I like Dunn over Burrell, the Braves dont need another power bat that is left handed, which is where Manny comes in. Offer Manny the same deal Tex shot down, except like 4 years (3 with an option???) for around 20 mil a year. Then some say just trade for Ordonez of the tigers. Ummm, were already trading for Peavy, so we dont want to give away the future. Hes not even what you would call a “power” bat, but a high average decent power guy. Plus Detroit would want payback for the Renteria-Jurrjens trade lol. Oh, Frank Wren, if you wanna take my advice and some more of my thoughts look me up and give me a call.

By William

October 16, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Why the heck would you want Tex back????? What exactly did he do with the Braves, besides ground in to double plays or look at 3rd strikes. Oh wait, that’s because he has such a great eye, I forgot.

By bigcooterb

October 16, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

I’d rather have Ted William’s frozen body than Manny.

By DCDave

October 16, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

Uh, Mark, does NFW mean anything to you?

By Philliesuk

October 16, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

Don’t bring Tex back. Nice guy, but he won’t help bring us a championship.

Peavy will. Manny will.

How about this? If you trade Escobar and two others for Peavy, how about trying to sign Furcal? Pick up a power bat in LF and another pitcher (Lowe, Garland, or Dempster), and that’s a nice start.

By scottbravesfan

October 17, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this

Mark Bradley,

You don’t think Chipper Jones is one of the great hitters in the game? The guy is the best switch hitter of all time. The guy has the highest batting average of any switch hitter EVER. Higher than Mickey, higher than Eddie Murray. He has a higher OPS than Hank Aaron.

The Braves would never spend the 25 million it’s going to take to sign Manny. They have a better chance of Hank Aaron coming out of retirement to join a recently cloned version of Eddie Mathews and Warren Spahn to relieve the great 1950’s Braves teams.

By BravesFan79

October 17, 2008 1:14 AM | Link to this

Tade Escobar? your nuts. Dudes the truth… he just went into a slump this past year because of the trade of his best friend since they were kids….. Pena.

The REAL solution would be to bring back Renteria, and have him, Escobar, Kelly, and Chipper all trade days off.

By terry

October 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Manny? Not just no. Hell no!!!

By PaulWinchester

October 17, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

I still dont understand the comparisons between Manny Ramierz and Mike Vick. Those two are on completely different spectrums and are two separate head cases. Mike Vick is a jailbird who couldnt tell the truth and had total disrespect for the law, his teammates, humanity and dogs. Manny Ramierz is a walking time bomb, however, he does have hall of fame credentials that can launch a team like a rocket being launched to the moon. Manny literally carried the Dodgers on his back and delivered a post-season appearance, which is something Vick is unable to do from a jail cell. That would be a neat trick for Vick if Vick could accomplish that from prison. So there you have it. Two men on totally different universes. Vick is in a prison cell and Manny is heading for the Hall of Fame, a destination of which no one will be able to deter. Which guy would you chose if you needed a proven hall of fame bat to be inserted into a major league lineup. You would chose someone who has hall of fame credentials like Manny has. I hope this clears up the differences between the two men. Its stupid to compare Vick to Manny because its like comparing Charles Manson to Mother Teresa.

By Flustered Fan

October 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

People…open your eyes, here. I hate to be negative, but…the Braves aren’t going anywhere for these reasons..1). Bobby Cox. 2). Bobby Cox, and 3). Bobby Cox. This is such a upped team! Other teams who have sucked this year fired their managagers. I have never heard of a team who did as badly as the Braves did this year and still retain all of the coaching staff. I think before the Braves start bringing in better players, they should start bringing in a better coaching staff. There is no way Manny Ramirez will ever be able to function on a team ran by the furor, Bobby Cox. Get rid of Cox first, then work on the rest of the team.(This is just my opinion, so please do not rip me to shreds on the blog).

By JODOM10

October 17, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

I THINK THE BRAVES SHOULD SIGN LOWE AND BURNETT AND TRADE TO GET MATT HOILDAY. MANNY IS TO RISKY

By Blue Fox

October 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Manny’s 36 and a clubhouse headache, let him go to NYC where he’d fit right in.

By JimK

October 17, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

The Braves and other owners should voluntarily limit their offers to the annual salary specified in the Red Sox’ option for 2009.

This will send a message to all players that they must first and foremost fulfill their contractual obligations on the field. Moreover any contract with Ramirez should specify the team’s right to fine him and dock his salary for shirking, loafing, faking injuries, or conducting any other type of job action on the field.

By Mike

October 17, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Mark, I remember a time in the late 80’s and early 90’s when you were actually an interesting writer. You’re becoming as ridiculous as Terence Moore. You two better look over your shoulder, there are 2-3 beat writers just at the AJC that should have your column space.

By Steve

October 17, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I really like Manny, and I could really could less about his antics. He is not a cancer in the clubhouse, which makes a huge difference in his antics versus those of people like Barry Bonds.

That being said, I would much rather go after front line starting pitching than an aging slugger, even if he is one of the top 10 hitters in the game. That being said, if the Braves payroll is going up some $40 million like they have stated, and we are losing a couple of big salaries, then we could get Peavy and Ramirez. I would rather have Peavy and Bay due to his age, but Manny would bring a ton of excitement to this town.

By Greg

October 17, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

No offense, but this article is asinine. You are a well respected columnist, but this article may take some creditability away, but for all the same red flags you mention. Braves fans know the history of Scot Boras clients and how they never last with the Braves. We also know that the Braves do not like players such as Manny because of their attitudes. At the end of the day, you know the Braves would never consider it so why even write this article?

By Greg

October 17, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

No offense, but this article is asinine. You are a well respected columnist, but this article may take some creditability away, but for all the same red flags you mention. Braves fans know the history of Scot Boras clients and how they never last with the Braves. We also know that the Braves do not like players such as Manny because of their attitudes. At the end of the day, you know the Braves would never consider it so why even write this article?

By Greg

October 17, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

No offense, but this article is asinine. You are a well respected columnist, but this article may take some creditability away, but for all the same red flags you mention. Braves fans know the history of Scot Boras clients and how they never last with the Braves. We also know that the Braves do not like players such as Manny because of their attitudes. At the end of the day, you know the Braves would never consider it so why even write this article?

By KingCobra

October 17, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

I dont care what ANYBODY says about Manny Ramierez. The Braves are considerably stronger and more powerful WITH Manny than they are without Manny. In other words, the addition of Manny to the Braves team makes them a much better ballclub than without Manny. So go ahead and sign manny; what in blazes do you have to lose; you didnt make the playoffs anyway and you probably wont make it until you sign someone the calibre of a Manny Ramierez.

By JoeSixpack

October 17, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

I really am dumbfounded as to the folks who dont appreciate what Manny has accomplished in his career or are naive to what he has done. I can understand why people dislike Manny; the dreadlocks, the indifferent narcasistic attitude, the reckless play in the outfield, but at the end of the day and when his glorious career is over, Manny will be enshrined in baseballs hall of fame, possibly on the first or second ballot. Those people who are oblivious to mannys accomplishments or hate manny I believe are ignorant SOBs, they are filled with jealousy and envy, they have hatred or racism towards manny or they are members of the KKK.

By Mannys#1Fan

October 17, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Thanks Mark Bradley for writing your article about Manny Ramieriz. Manny is an interesting case study because on the one hand it breaks your heart to see him look so foolish out there, the dreadlocks, the sloppy play in the outfield, the cancerous and moody attitude in the clubhouse, but on the other hand, when you look at his resume, its absolutely SPOTLESS. All the stars in the heavens are in alignment for Manny to make the hall of fame and the work has already been done. For those folks who are unaware, if Manny were to quit baseball today, there would be a place waiting for him in Cooperstown with the massive numbers that he has amassed over his long, illustrious and glorious career. Its really amazing when you think about it because on the one hand you say, how can this guy have lasted one season without being kicked off somebodys team, but when you analyze the numbers they scream COOPERSTOWN every single time. Manny will soon be enshrined alongside Babe Ruth, Henry Aaron, Mickie Mantle, Cy Young, Willie Mays, Ted Williams and that incredible fraternity of excellence. Mannys spot is waiting for him in Cooperstown and the way that he is getting bashed in these blogs you would think Manny were a homeless bum living under a bridge.

By beeniez

October 17, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Manny would be a great addition to the Braves. His production far outweighs his public appearance. He would be a tremendous boost to any team. Reports have said that the Dodgers an additional $6 million dollars per month when Manny was in the lineup. That’s $36 million dollars per year. Obviously with age that number will decrease over the contract and that’s why giving him such a large contract over 6 years would be a mistake. Not to mention, he could potentially block future “blue chip” prospects the latter part of his career.

I don’t think Manny would like it in Atlanta, either. Bobby Cox would make him cut his hair and his quirkiness likely wouldn’t be put up with. Not too mention, he’ll likely want a no-trade clause - something the Braves have a strict policy against. I don’t see Manny asking for only four years without a trade clause in a place he might not like.

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that the Braves were willing to spend that kind of money with that many years on the left field. I think they would be better suited and have much safer options next year when cornerstone left fielders like Jason Bay and Matt Holliday hit free agency. Those are the type of players that are worth blocking prospects for and committing the next six years for.

By Eric

October 17, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Beeniz I agree with all your comments, except Jason Bay. We signed Jason Bay already for 7.5 million & he will be back in a Sox uniform next season. He is happy in Boston and we are glad to have him. Bay won’t be a free agent until the 2010 season.

By Herb

October 17, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

NEVER! There are plenty of quality players in baseball without bringing that moron into the Braves clubhouse.

By Salty Dawg

October 17, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Under virtually no circumstances should the Braves chase ManRam. What happens when you sign him to the huge contract he desires and will definitely get? He goes back to not giving a crap and once again becomes the “loaf” with no further incentive to bust it.

By NO MORE BOBBY

October 17, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Manny would be perfect for Atlanta if Atlanta did not have Bobby Cox as manager. Manny brings excitement and energy to a team…. something Cox doesnt know how to handle anymore.

2009 will be another year of boring Bobby Ball.

SMOLTZ FOR MANAGER IN 2010!!!!!!

By Ken

October 18, 2008 6:26 AM | Link to this

Obviously this article woke up some of the sleeping. Of course if they were true fans, rather than typing here they would have joined me at Turner field and filled up those empty seats. Manny would be your 3 hitter..if they pitch around him, Chipper would have a built in runner on base. Pitching is great but they are only active every 4th or 5th day. Pay 20 million for 140 games or 40 games hmmm the rate per game is cheaper for the everyday player.EITHER WAY they need a support cast.

By cooper

October 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Seems like a long shot at best and Manny is a piece of work. However ask any player who wants to win on the Braves and they would be doing back flips if Manny were on the team.

For a team that has won nothing in a very very long time and has tried every C and B level option dismissing Manny out of hand because of his antics is short sighted.

Your ever day fan who actually goes to the park and buys 4-5 tickets (think well paid families, corporate types, high end season ticket holders) would pack the place every night if Manny were here.

The blog posting single ticket buyer who goes to a few games a year or doesn’t live in ATL are the ones turning their nose up at the idea. Unfortunately they don’t represent who ATL marketing is trying to appease or entice.

By AceCometh

October 18, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

It would be a major coup for the Braves if they land Jake Peavey. That would also put them close to being a legitimate contendor. Send San Diego Kelly Johnson and let Martin Prado take over second base. Gregor Blanco can be thrown into that deal as well for good measure and let Josh Anderson have center field. I’m no totally sold on Jordan Schafer after his suspension for HGH use. I hope the Braves can find a good left fielder on the free agent market that doesn’t have a history of injuries and isn’t eligible for a senior citizens discount. Get someone young, exciting to watch and can ignite the offense!

By James Munson

October 18, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Ok, lets say the Braves dont even have an intrest in Manny. So we need a power bat in left field. Lets say we do trade for Peavy, giving up Kelly and prospects. That takes out a left-handed bat in our lineup, so I think it would be easier for us to sign Adam Dunn. I really prefer him over Pat Burrell because with Dunn, you know what you get. 40 homers in each of the past four seasons. Yes he hits .250ish but what about Burrell? Hes a question mark. The Braves would love to add a right handed power bat, but if it isnt Manny, I dont think we should trade for one (Magglio Ordonez, Matt Holliday) These two would cost us a lot of top level prospects, and I dont think that is what we should do. Possibly a trade for Jermaine Dye?? Dont think he’ll cost us a lot. But I want MANNY!!!

By Paul Lentz

October 18, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Some of you guys are something else. You’d rather have a bunch of choir boys and lose a hundred games than to have some selfish, arrogant players who give your team a chance to win a hundred games. Personally, I could care less what kind of morals these players have. If you want morality, go to freaking church. If you want role models for your kids, be one yourself. As a sports fan, I want to see my team win. PERIOD. I’m a 36 year old lifelong Braves fan. I remember the “glory days” of the late eighties. I do not want to go back to that.

Barry Bonds may have used steroids. So freaking what. I could care less. I think that the steroid issue is irrelevant. I see nothing wrong with an athlete using steroids to improve his performance. What is the difference between an athlete using steroids………and……a woman getting breasts implants, bigger lips, botox in her face, or a* implants? Some of you bring up the fairness of athletes using performance enhancing drugs having an unfair advantage against a “clean” player. Well……what about the actress, model,exotic dancer, or porn star who has a natural body…..having to compete against an actress, model, exotic dancer, or porn star who has had a doctor enhance their body? Is that fair? And dont bring up the “health” issue. You cannot tell me that what those doctors do to those women do not have long term health implications. I feel it should be up to the individual. It’s their body. Same way with abortion. It’s the woman’s body. No man has a right to tell a woman what she should do with her body. No one should have a right to tell an athlete what he should or shouldnt do as far as performancing enhancing drugs are concerned.

Fact is, it’s easy for “joe six pack” (or better put, “joe the freaking plumber”) to sit in judgment and rail against an athlete who uses steroids. After all, many of you are frustrated, never was anything, wanna be athletes. Steroids would have not have made a difference for you. Or perhaps you are mad that an Alex Rodriguez, a Barry Bonds, a Manny Ramariez wiould never play for your team. So you sit back, lay in the cut, and act all high and mighty……railing about steroids and greedy agents. MORONS, if your son had a chance to get paid millions, would you tell him to take less money so some moron fans can hope their team can have a chance to compete?

Bottom line, I want the Braves to win. If Bonds’ presence could make the lineup better, I’d have him in a heartbeat. If Manny could provide protection to Chipper and add some pop to the line-up, bring him on. I do not sit at home and fantasize that professional athletes actually are good guys who care about the fans. I dont want them to care about me. ME caring about me is enough for me. I want to see my team win. PERIOD.

Besides, how many of you would pay good money for season tickets if the Braves had a team full of choir boys, yet continously lost a hundred games a year? The thing some of you forget, it takes a very strong drive, a strong will to even make it to the professional level. Sometimes, that turns into arrogance, a sense of entitlement. So what? If it helps my team win, so be it.

By derek

October 18, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

I agree with Paul Lentz!! I want to see my team win! Personally i hate that we have missed the playoffs 3 years in a row. Wren is doing a great job so far! I say go after Manny!! Chipper needs someone like Manny to protect him. We need life and fun around the ball club. And also we def neeed to get Peavy! but thats my thinkin..

By Robert

October 18, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

I cant imagine Manny Ramirez willingly playing for a donkey like Bobby Cox

By Wayne

October 18, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

No way in hell would I ever even offer a contract to somebody with such a weak character as Manny. We don’t need this sort of garbage on our team. I would rather lose than win with players like Manny and Barry Bonds.

These guys are not reliable. Let’s keep some semblence of honor on our team.

By cameron

October 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Keep honor on our team. Do you even know anything about MAJOR LEAGUE sports? If anybody would reither have honor and stupid sh*t like that than a great team that goes to the World Series, then thier pretty stupid. Personally, id love to see many play for the braves, id love to see bonds play for the braves, id love to see clemens play for the braves, shoot, bring everyone thats done steriods, who cares if they did it, they got introuble for it, now let them do thier job and come win the braves a world series. =]

By McFann Ô

October 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Wayne—

I agree with your 10:48 100%.

It’s a shame DOB’s Blog blew up. He said he’d get us a new one today, though.

By Atlhomer

October 19, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

I say let Manny go somewhere else, were not lacking a 3 hitter in the lineup were lacking a 5 guy that has power, use the money to go after peavy and or CC, then make an effort for a power hitting left fielder

By Johnny

October 20, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

I’d rather spend all that Manny money on CC Sabathia and Jake Peavy. I love Manny, but I love him from a distance. He’s too much like a Terrell Owens, he could implode a whole team single handedly. No, I have more fun envisioning Sabathia, Peavy, Hudson.

By MannyLittlejohn

October 21, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

My question to ALL Manny-haters and Manny-bashers is WOULD YOU ENSHRINE MANNY RAMIEREZ INTO BASEBALLS HALL OF FAME IF HIS CAREER ENDED TODAY? And if the answer is no, why on earth wouldnt you. All he has done in his career has averaged 30+ hrs, 100 rbis and .300 batting average HIS ENTIRE CAREER. That is the reason why I would rather spend money on Manny rather than free agents Andrew Jones or some other washed up mule who is unable to help your club win. At least with manny YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WILL ALWAYS GET! .300 BATTING AVERAGE; 30+ HRS AND 100 RBI ALWAYS! YOU WILL ALWAYS GET THOSE NUMBERS OUT OF MANNY because Manny has delivered those numbers I believe every single solitary year of his career; yet he is bashed unmercifully because people are envious and jealous of his accomplishments because they feel that how can some dreadlocked bum who is a clubhouse cancer play such breathtakingly awesome baseball. The great thing about Manny is that Manny proves how great he is time and time again, every single day of his life, even though he looks like a horse on crack sometimes in the outfield.

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By DAWES

February 8, 2009 12:03 PM | Link to this

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