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Ryan showed some fight

Tampa — Think of this game as a big fat cake. Picture Matt Ryan bending down to inspect the delicacy. Imagine his shock when the top layer flies open and up springs a boxing glove to smack Matty Ice on the snoot.

Only then does he read the inscription on the icing: “Welcome to the NFL.”

Every rookie has this game, rookie quarterbacks especially. Matt Ryan got his in Week 2 of Season 1, and for nearly a half it was as bad as Week 1 had been good. Against Detroit, he’d thrown his first NFL pass for a 62-yard touchdown. Against Tampa Bay here Sunday, his first nine passes were incompletions, and two were caught by the wrong team.

So addled was the guy lauded for his poise that he actually slung the ball backwards for an 11-yard loss at the end of the second quarter. “I was trying to pull it down,” he said, but at that stage he really didn’t know what he was doing.

It was 17-0 after 21 minutes, and it looked for all the world like one of those vintage Bay beatdowns — such as the 34-10 wipeout in 2002, Michael Vick’s first start here, or the 37-3 annihilation of last December. So it was with great surprise that you looked up with seven minutes remaining and saw …

The Falcons down 17-6 with first-and-goal at the 4.

“It looked rough from the beginning,” said receiver Roddy White. “But we did have a chance.”

No, they didn’t win. Matty Ice didn’t throw the big chill on the Bucs in the final reel. But Ryan did, in his first road start against a proud and polished defense, fight his way through what began as an abomination and turn it into just a garden-variety bad game.

White again: “Everything he did today, he’s learning on the run. And [Bucs defensive coordinator] Monte Kiffin always does this to young quarterbacks.”

Young Matt Ryan was buffeted and bewildered like he’d never been before and might not be again, and still he gathered himself and completed 10 of 18 second-half passes, a half in which he drove his team inside the Tampa 10 twice.

“As a rookie, it’s never going to be easy,” Ryan said. “You have to continue to weather the storm and learn from it.”

And he will. He’ll profit from the worst day of his professional life. It isn’t often a team can take solace from a 24-9 loss, but the Falcons could and did. They knew this could have been 37-3 all over again, but their resolve wouldn’t allow it.

Ryan: “You’ve got to keep battling. All our guys are continuing to battle.”

Back to first-and-goal at the 4. The Falcons choose a play that left Ryan running with the ball, which made no sense then and less in hindsight. Mike Smith, the coach, said the play was supposed to be “a run-pass option.” Ryan said it was a straight quarterback draw. It wound up losing three yards and limiting them to a field goal at a time when a touchdown would have made it dicey for the home side. But that, too, is fixable.

The Falcons are starting over, and they’re growing as they go. Standing in the tunnel as dusk fell Sunday, general manager Thomas Dimitroff simply shrugged when asked about Ryan: “A learning experience.”

Ryan was never going to be Tom Brady overnight. Tom Brady wasn’t Tom Brady overnight. Ryan didn’t trip the light fantastic in his second pro start, but he won a few more fans among a famously difficult audience — his peers. Said Lawyer Milloy, the safety who once shared a locker room with Brady: “I saw some fight out of a very young leader.”

There will be more weeks, more years, more visits to Tampa. Next time Matt Ryan will come packing a boxing glove of his own.

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By Jesse

September 14, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Well his first few series looked awful.. over throwing the WR by 20 feet, but he settled down. The WR did have a few drops as well so his numbers could have been better. But to make that much progress in one half against that Defense says something. He’ll beat Tampa one day, but it will be because of his mind and not his arm strength.

By ToeKnee

September 14, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

yea, a prime example of how the start you get off to can set the tone for how you play the rest of the game. we still just don’t have a polished enough offense to beat that tampa d, few do, but we did not get embarrassed, which in all likelihood, should have happened, but didn’t. because this team fights.They went after Grimes again all day and he still hussles and holds his own. i love the toughness and fight of this team. tough loss, but one that we true fans can take pride in. way to go guys. go falcons!

By Falcon Freddie

September 14, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Comparing today’s Tampa Bay Bucs Team to the Superbowl Championship team that Beat Michael Vick is a stretch even for you Mr. Bradley. The real story here is how Matt Ryan played against the 2008 Tampa team that had just lost the previous week and was starting a new QB. Let’s keep our focus hear. What was Matt’s QB Rating???? The closest Atlanta Falcons came to getting in the end zone was when Warrick Dunn scored. Oops, I forgot, he’s no longer our team.

By Rick

September 14, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

I could not agree more. This team did not lay down and roll over. With 6 minutes to go in the game they were still in it. You can watch the team and see a different attitude. I like it. Up to this point I have not said anything about # 98 Anderson. I thought by now he should be making an impact by now and it is not happening. I read that he worked hard in the off season with Chuck Smith and others trying to improve his skills. We are rapidly approaching the point were that position needs to be re-evaluated.

By Jerry Mills

September 14, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

I thought Ryan proved he is real tough and gritty today. Gruden should be held responsible and fined for all the cheap shots to the head on Ryan which some which were flagged and some not flagged. The Buc’s D always has seemed (today and in the past) to get away with head shots and NFL should take action.

By Bk Hawk

September 14, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

I agree next time it will be different. I love the fight in the TEAM and Coach Smith gets A + . He’s the leader this team needed. He gets in everyones face that scewed up,officials and players but does it the right way. Matt will be ok. Got to love the fight. Go Falcons. GT, UGA, GSU.

By arff

September 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Bradley please get of Ryan’s nut$!!! He stunk! He was all world last week according to you so don’t give us that “he showed fight” crap. If he had came out there and fainted you would talk about how great he looked hitting the ground. You sound like you want to go out on a date with the guy. Write like you are talking about football man and stop sounding like someone with a man crush. You sound pathetic playa!!!

By joseph

September 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

The story of this game was the play of the offensive line. Losing Baker seemed to hurt as Weiner got beat badly a few times. Ryan had pressure more times than not and Turner/Norwood were constantly battling to get past the line of scrimage.

Big plays were also missing. The Falcons pre-season red zone problems made their first appearance in this game as opposed to week 1 when big plays were the norm.

I agree that Gruden seemed to tell his team to go after Ryan and try to rattle him.

KC at home should bring back the week 1 Falcons that were a lot more fun to watch.

By Kno Doubt

September 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Nope… Just couldn’t do it could you Mark? Had to mention Number 7 again. Poor attempt to justify Matt’s outing today with Number 7’s first outing back in 2002. As if to say, “Hey “Vick-apologist”, go easy on Matt. Vick had a rough outing his first game against the Bucs also”. Let the “coddling” begin.

By Bama

September 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

arff; where did you get the stuff? that stuff you been smoking. marks got more smarts in his little toe than you got in your brain.

By Falclowns R Back

September 14, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Mr. Bradley, the way you spun this loss is sickening. Who would have thought that seeing the glass as half-full would ever seem so - hopeless. Good luck in your future coverage of the ‘golden one.’

By Joe Daddy

September 14, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

I loved what I saw today. The first quarter was as bad as it could get but Matt Ryan adjusted and made improvements in the second half. The team never gave up and Ryan looked like he learned a ton in just one game… Go Falcons!

By DeathFromAbove

September 14, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Actually Vick didn’t even finish his first start against Tampa, and the Falcons started off 1-3 his first season as a starter…

By arff

September 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Bama you do know that sentences begin with capital letters don’t you? Sounds like someone else has a man crush.

By zone1atl/borngator

September 14, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

As a Buc i hate the Falcons with a passion and thought the drafting of Ryan was a mistake. After watching him play in this game, he has earned my respect. He could’ve easily falling apart but he hung he there and took that butt whooping and kept fighting. From the outside looking in i think he’s going to be pretty good and we’re going to have to content with that.

By Shawn dodson

September 14, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

arff,i couldn’t agree with more.Bradley and all the other Matt Ryan loyalist will make excuses for him.They want so badly to forget about Mike.The QB who brought so much to their team and city.I hope they never win without Mike.Wake up falcon fans,Ryan is NOT the QB who will save the team.

By allweather fan

September 14, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

Arff,

This is a rookie quarterback we are talking about not Brady or the elder Manning. We must have been watching different games. I will agree the QB in the first half I saw stunk. The QB in the second half I saw had a lot of resolve. My question to you is how good do you think Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman looked in their first road games? And how did they turn out?

By myconju

September 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Yes! Matt Ryan stunk up the place. Yes, the Tampa D shut down Michael Turner and made Ryan throw. The Falcons can thank that Tampa offense for not leaving out of there humiliated. That goodness that we are in the weakest conference in the NFL. Thank goodness we’ll be playing KC next week. They’ll be sure to give the Falcons more false hope.

There were some rays of hope, Abrahama nd Babineaux had steller performances.

Of course everyone! THIS is ANOTHER REBUILDING YEAR.

By darrell starks

September 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

yes we lost BUT ITS OKAY TAMPABAY always play us tough my biggest concern is matt arm strenght I THOUGHT he had a stronger arm than what he showed to day couple of time he TRIED TO THROW DEEP BUT COULD NOT get it there may be he was nervouse i dont no but its just one game linebacker play was the weaknest on defense we have to get better play at linebacker NO GAME BALL THIS WEEK. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Richard

September 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Yes, I did see some fight in Matt today, but to win a fight you better bring some skills, and Matt is limited when it comes to skills, he appears to make sound good reads under pressure but with limited arm strength, accuracy and foot speed we are in big trouble unless he can stand in the pocket all day.

By allweather fan

September 14, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Shawn,

I am sick of all the Vick apoligist. I thought he was great for this team and city. However, he has NO ONE to blame but himself. He turned on his fans not the other way around. No one put a gun to his head and had him fight dogs which is why he is in PRISON not jail. He did this to himself. Get real dude.

By joseph

September 14, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

To Shawn Dodson,

“The QB who brought so much to their team and city”

Do you mean felony charges for killing dogs or do you mean leaving the team with no QB weeks before training camp and after the draft?

For the record, Vicks first game @ TB was week 14 and he was 12 for 25 with 125 yards, 1 TB, 1 Int. 6 rushes for 9 yards. He was sacked 1 time.

By Supes

September 14, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

There were at least 2 occasions in which Matt got hit illegally with a helmet to helmet hit by a Tampa Bay Succanier after he had already released the ball. He also got hit late when he was on the ground at least once. Only 1 was called the other 2 went uncalled.

I hope Mike Smith shows video of this, so next time the Succaniers play the Falcons at the DOME, our D-Line and Backers give Griese or Garcia the same courtesy.

Defense needs to man up…esp. Jamal Anderson! Someone should put out a missing person’s report on him.

By Mark Bradley

September 14, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

You knew this welcome-to-the-NFL game was coming, and now that it has arrived, you want me to say Ryan is a bust? Well, I won’t. Because he isn’t.

And for the record, I was never anything but supportive as Michael Vick as a quarterback. (Feel free to go back and check.) But he had some tough days, too, and he wasn’t asked to start Week 1 of Season 1. Every quarterback has tough days.

By ATL Bucs Guy

September 14, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

Of course Gruden told his team to go after Ryan. That’s how you play defense, get after the QB. I didn’t watch the game too closely, so I didn’t see if there were a lot of late hits on Ryan or not, but I did see one of the Bucs hit him hard with a forearm to the face mask. That’s not cool. That’s not coached either. That’s that particular player taking it upon himself to hurt someone, and the Bucs shouldn’t be held responsible for that.

By the way, thanks for bringing in Michael Turner and making it possible for us to get Dunn back. Gruden wanted him back all along, and I loved seeing him slice up the ATL defense on his TD run.

By Rod

September 14, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Ryan showed Joey Moxy? LOL.

By Richard

September 14, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Matt reminds me of J. Harrington and C Redman, they know where to go with the ball but just to not have the arm strength to get the ball there, teams are not going to let us nickel and dime them down the field, until Matt can throw the deep ball and he can not we will not be successful. So we better run the ball like crazy every game and maybe Matt will be able throw a 20 yard out

By tim

September 14, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Afrr,your an a*! Ryan show a lot guts today and He Will get better.Troy Akiman looked like CRAP,his first year in Dallas.I know your just another pathetic loser Vick fan.Ryan may not be the athlete Vick was,But Vick never was and never will the leader Ryan is and definetly not the team player Ryan is..And He as HELL isn’t as smart.If he were he’d playing football on sunday instead of sitting in LEAVENWORTH!!!.

By JR

September 14, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

“Every quarterback has tough days.”

Couldn’t have said it any better Mark. Unfortunately 90% of the idiots on this blog are too stupid to figure that out. Those morons forgot that you also have to credit Kiffin’s defense for playing so physical and shutting down the running game today.

Did Ryan make mistakes? You better believe it. But oh mi gosh, since he didn’t throw for 300+ and 5 tds he must ABSOLUTELY SUCK! I think the people upset with Ryan’s performance were those losers who had him starting on their fantasy teams, because they really aren’t real Falcon fans.

These are the kinds of days that we’ll just have to expect during this season. I still believe the Falcons are going to learn from this and grow into a real contender one day.

By atlpaddy

September 14, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Did Ryan look bad on a lot of drives in this game? Yes. But why in the hell was the coaching staff putting this game on a rookie QB’s shoulders? What happened to the running game? Why weren’t we working short passing routes and screens like the Aint’s did last week? I’ve got a big problem when it’s 3rd down and 3 and we’re trying to throw the ball into the end zone when all we need is another first down. Not good. The coaching staff had some bad play calling today and we’re lucky Ryan didn’t get killed out there.

By arff

September 14, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

The Falcons played a real football team today not division 1-A college team like they did last week. The comments on this board about him showing fight and grit and all of that nonsense is why Atlanta teams never win anything with the exception of one World Series title. Keith Brooking is a prime example, rarely makes a big play but he is considered the icon of Atlanta Falcon football. This city needs some guys that want to win and will lay it on the line not some guy that gives good quotes and plays golf with AJC writers.

By myconju

September 14, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

Excuse me Mark Bradley. I didn’t know that they asked Matt Ryan to start. I thought that he won the starting job. Negotiating for a 72 mil contract does not mean asking for the starting job, it means you take the starting job.

Suck it up Falcons fans, even the best quarterbacks have a bad game.

By myconju

September 14, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

I’m sort of sick of the cliche “Vick brought it on himself”. Yes he broke the law. But if I get a speeding ticket on my way to work and am late, the whole building is not going to collapse.

The Falcons collapsed and that can not be blamed on Mike Vick. Tom Brady is out and they are still winning.

By Rip

September 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Troy Akiman had an arm, Matt is missing one. You have got to have at least two out of three to be a good QB brains, arm, legs. Matt does have a brain

By arff

September 14, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Ok Tim, in 5 years if Matt Ryan wins the Super Bowl or even takes the Falcons to the Super Bowl I will agree with you that he is better than Vick because Vick took the Falcons to the NFC championship game. As for Mike going to prison I have to agree with you that was a dumb move. But hey, young men/quarterbacks make mistakes on and off the field. One more thing, how can you tell that Ryan is so smart and such a great leader after only two games? You must be really smart too?

By Grumps

September 14, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan looked great—anything is better than last year and the previous Screwed Up Ego Head Vick. Go Falcons.

By myconju

September 14, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

With the exception of one word, Matt Ryan sounded a lot like Coach Mora.

Coach Mora = the team really fought Matt Ryan = the team really battled

Is this deja vous.

By myconju

September 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

I saw the Ryan’s post game interview and I felt really sorry for him. In 90 plus degree weather, why wear a suite. Who is he trying to impress. With all of that wiping his face with a towel. Will someone give him some PR classes. Matty Ice looked as though he was melting.

By Boo Boo

September 14, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

Well, well, well. Seems I remember checking off the “Who will win between Falcons and Bucs?” AJC useless poll, voting “Bucs.” “Wow”, I said to myself, when I saw I was one of 76 thinking “loss”, verses 9,875 Homers voting for the “Falcons” to win.

Matt Ryan is a rookie. The offensive line is not the changed variety Mike Smith and Dimoff promised to come this year, in Free Agency and the draft. Its the cut block line still from Mora Junior’s days. Remember them, they only beat Tampa Bay when Tampa Bay had no quarterback. There still are no Terrell Owens like receivers in Atlanta, making 10 catches for 140 yards per game, with 2 TDs. And, the Falcons only play the Detroit Lionesses once this year. Their only hope is to keep the scores low by run, run, run. They proved today they cannot run against Tampa Bay.

If this week is any crystal ball into the future, then we could see the Falcons come out victorious next week, in a hard-fought 9-8 game against KC. Pack the seats for that one.

Still, it looks like Tampa Bay is possibly headed to a 4-win season, if they can trick Matt Ryan into stage fright one more time, assuming they too play the Chiefs and Detroit. Not quite the REALITY-CHECK 31-3 thumping some people expected.

I guess too many people that are Falcon fans watch those commercials on TV and think that baby really can buy stocks on a computer. “I just won an NFL football game. Did you see? Whoa … [puke].” Its not real folks. Babies cannot buy stocks and NFL rookie quarterbacks do not win many regular season games.

By myconju

September 14, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Warrick Dunn looked exceptional today. And what a wise young man. Believe me when I say that the fans are HAPPY to have him back.

By myconju

September 15, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

Who is the whiner that is talking about the late hits on Matt Ryan. C’mon, there were so many late hits on Mike Vick that I can’t remember. He’s an NFL player. Let him be that. After all, he’s being paid 72 mil to take those late hits.

By The Truth

September 15, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this

I will not get into the Ryan/Vick comparison, as this is a different team, and totally different circumstances. This is Ryan’s second NFL game,and despite looking horrible in the 1st half, he performed good enough to win today, as he marched the team down to the 10 on two occasions, but we came up short. I am sure he will continue to grow and may be able to exact revenge on Tampa when they visit the Dome. Hold your head high Matt, and lets go Falcons.

By Jed Leeland

September 15, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this

ajc “writers” are all buttlicking pimps. But, that’s about all you can expect in Podunck Atlanta, G-A.

By Keith

September 15, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

Hey Freddie Falcon…..f*** you! Why don’t you do us all a favor and die. These guys are a young team. They are going to need time to mature. If you’re expecting a winning season this year, you’re just as much of a fool as you sound. If you can’t see the progress that Ryan made from the first half to the second, you probably need to either pull your head out of your a*…..or out of the crotch of your Michael Vick poster. Ryan is the winning future! Vick is a hudlum death to any team that touches him! Get your head out of your a* and see the big picture.

By michaelgee

September 15, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

Ryan got beat up physically all day, but never once did he hang his head like Vick always did when the game got rough.

Ryan is a winner in the works.

The repeated helmet to helmet shots should be illegal, well, they should be flagged since they are already illegal. The NFL Officials did a very poor job of protecting the QB today, they let TB get free shot after free shot to Ryans head, the kid never waivered, he just kept coming. Matt Ryan is my kind of player!

By Jim Mora, Jr.

September 15, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this

Hey guys. You still hurting? After I told my daddy I went to a dog fight with Mike Vick and he then went and said Mike Vick was a coach killer and all, I thought turning Mick Vick in to the Feds, talking Patrick Kearney to come follow me to the great northwest, and scaring Deangelo and Alge by telling them I would tell on them for going to the same dog fight, if they didn’t leave the Falcons, would make me feel real happy inside. I thought you would still be hurting, having to start over twice. Especially after Coach Homlgren announced I would be the head coach next year and all, I thought I would feel better. But, now we are 0 - 2 and you are 1 - 1. Where’s the justice in that?

By Kevin B

September 15, 2008 12:51 AM | Link to this

By myconju September 15, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this Who is the whiner that is talking about the late hits on Matt Ryan. C’mon, there were so many late hits on Mike Vick that I can’t remember. He’s an NFL player. Let him be that. After all, he’s being paid 72 mil to take those late hits.

Being a former defensive lineman, I have no problem with a late hit if it is inadvertent. When a man takes two helmet shots under the chin, it’s bushleague at best and has no place in professional sports….Gruden initiated that and as the leader of the team should be held accountable as well as the offending players themselves.

Football is indeed a contact sport; however there is a major difference between aggressive play and a blatant cheap shot. You can inflict as much pain within the rules of the game without having to resort to going outside them.

By mrdonut

September 15, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this

Ryan and the Falcons will be fine, but they need to cut White, Jenkins, and Jamal Anderson, immediately. The Falcons don’t even need to replace them on the roster. This is called addition by subtraction.

By The Truth

September 15, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this

With Grady Jackson out of the linup and JAnderson still not contributing our defense was not as stout as we hoped for. The CB’s continues to play well, and in two games shows the decision to get rid of D. Hall was a good one. The Oline was way too soft and the injury to Sam Baker did not help us. Will someone tell me why Todd Weiner is playing and Quinn Ojinnaka is not? also why not try Kroy instead of Jamal. Jamal is just another of Rich McKay’s experiment. I will not say anything in this post with regards to Brooking, but am positive that Thomas Dimitroff will do the right thing come next draft.

By VICK_HEX

September 15, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS BLOG AND THE KKK IS NO HOODS ARE NOTICABLE. IF YOU PEOPLE ARE SATISFIED WITH RYAN LEAF’S PERFORMANCE, THEN YOU HAVE VERY LOW SELF ESTEEMS.

YOU WILL NEVER WIN WITHOUT ME - DEAL WITH IT YOU W* B*******.

P.S. D HALL & THE RAIDERS WON :)

By Kevin B

September 15, 2008 1:12 AM | Link to this

By mrdonut September 15, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this Ryan and the Falcons will be fine, but they need to cut White, Jenkins, and Jamal Anderson, immediately. The Falcons don’t even need to replace them on the roster. This is called addition by subtraction.

I agree with you about Jamal and Michael Jenkins, but the jury is still out on Roddy…the dropped pass he had in the first half was him simply turning upfield before securing the catch. Happens to receivers everyday; but MJ did not seem to even try to catch anything at all today.

I would move Douglas in his spot and have Finneran slotted in as a possession receiver esp on 3rd down passing situations.

By VICK_HEX

September 15, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this

WOULDN’T IT BE IRONIC IF NEXT WEEK DORSEY PUTS RYAN ON THE INJURED RESERVED LIST NEXT WEEK? THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS :)

SHOUTING - SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED ME BIATCH!!!!!!

By Kevin B

September 15, 2008 1:32 AM | Link to this

**By VICK_HEX September 15, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS BLOG AND THE KKK IS NO HOODS ARE NOTICABLE. IF YOU PEOPLE ARE SATISFIED WITH RYAN LEAF’S PERFORMANCE, THEN YOU HAVE VERY LOW SELF ESTEEMS.

YOU WILL NEVER WIN WITHOUT ME - DEAL WITH IT YOU W* B*.

P.S. D HALL & THE RAIDERS WON :)**

These are the type of ignorant comments that I get sick of reading on this blog….Stop making excuses for what MV7 bought on HIMSELF!!!! He funded the operation, not the white man or the system!

His previous agent asked him to give up those unsavory activities long before he was exposed, yet he dumped him an hired another agent or enabler instead.

He set the “Glowing Example” for his little brother to follow in and Marcus followed them to a T. He was given a free pass at VT because of his on field talents.

I as a man of color am sick and tired of our atheletes and entertainers not being held responsible for their own actions everytime they get themselves in trouble.

If you are stupid enough to commit the crime then man up and accept the punishment. That’s not a conspiracy, it is the law. Deal with it!

By Old Timer

September 15, 2008 1:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Bradley, it’s spelled M-O-X-I-E.

By Najeh Davenpoop

September 15, 2008 3:14 AM | Link to this

“And for the record, I was never anything but supportive as Michael Vick as a quarterback. (Feel free to go back and check.) But he had some tough days, too, and he wasn’t asked to start Week 1 of Season 1. Every quarterback has tough days.”

Two extra years of college preparation are supposed to make you more ready to handle starting Week 1 of Season 1, particularly when you are paid $72 million on Week 0 of Season 1.

No, Matt Ryan is not a bust because he stunk up the joint one game, far from it. But you better believe games like this are gonna happen a lot more often as he plays actual NFL teams, unlike the Detroit Lions. The Falcons have made the decision to play him despite putting next to zero help around him — they better hope he is mentally tough enough to handle the pounding he’s gonna take this year. Just ask David Carr what a substandard supporting cast can do to a talented QB’s career.

And if you don’t think some of those Bucs journeyman linemen who won’t make $72 million in their entire careers didn’t put a little extra oomph on some of those hits on purpose — just like certain players did on Vick in his first season when the spotlight was on him — think again. You can expect to see that frequently as the year goes along too, especially if the brilliant Falcons coaches continue calling quarterback draws on the goal line.

Finally, like someone mentioned earlier, this is a Brooks-less, Sapp-less, Booger-less, aging Tampa defense you’re talking about, and you’re comparing them to the 2002 Super Bowl Champions, Bradley? This is probably the most adoring column ever written about a 29.6 QB rating performance. No rational observer thinks this game makes Ryan a bust, but come on now, he is not immune to criticism either.

By Manny

September 15, 2008 3:36 AM | Link to this

What happened yesterday was simple: Ryan went against a good Cover 2 and was exposed. Period.

If you look back during my comments during PRESEASON, when everybody was arguing with me that Ryan is ready Day 1 to be the starter, I was telling you that I was concerned about Ryan going against a good Cover 2. I wondered what would happen if the Cover 2 took away the running game and the short pass. I wondered what would happen if all that was left would be the midrange pass.

Well, now we know what would happen.Ryan went 2-for the first half. We had 2 interceptions (and we can thank God we didn’t have more.) And we had hurt players and nasty sacks.

But I did see something else. I did see why people are so high on Matt Ryan. And I respect him a lot more after this game. Because I saw a guy with real heart. He’s that kind of player that you would want to work a little harder to make him look good. And I think his leadership ability is very strong. And he can throw a strike.

But clearly he’s not going to win the Falcons games with his arm. He’s not the playmaker that we’re accustomed to at the QB position. And he’s clearly someone who will need to be bailed out at least 30% of the time. And that’s going to be a problem this season.

Oh, and what’s worse, is now the rest of the league knows that if you walk up your safeties to assist in the rush defense, Ryan can’t make you pay.

By Mike

September 15, 2008 4:37 AM | Link to this

Still talking about Mr Vick I see. Unless the falconettes win at the end of the game nothing else matters. Hey maybe you ryan lovers can start your books now. ‘He played with heart. He played strong. His team was always on the L side at the end of the game, but thats ok.’ Fellows this is not little league.

By Mike

September 15, 2008 5:00 AM | Link to this

Still talking about Mr Vick I see. Unless the falconettes win at the end of the game nothing else matters. Hey maybe you ryan lovers can start your books now. ‘He played with heart. He played strong. His team was always on the L side at the end of the game, but thats ok.’ Fellows this is not little league.

By RA

September 15, 2008 5:04 AM | Link to this

I saw two things yesterday that made me think that Ryan is going to be a very good quarterback. One, even while taking the beating of a lifetime, he had enough presence to know exactly where the line of scrimmage was, react accordingly, and keep a critical drive going. Second, and most importantly, on that weird play yesterday (the completion, forward pass, recovery, roughing the passer fiasco), I saw Ryan get hit, and pull the guy that hit him down with him. Now that’s something Brett Farve would do. Above all else, you never saw him cradling an injured body part (and you know that by the end of yesterday, he was hurting all over), rolling around on the ground (even though he took devasting hit after devastating hit), or calling it in (even though you could tell that there were times when he just didn’t have a clue out there). Now, to the extent that Bradley supported Vick, I honestly don’t remember and I honestly don’t care, but I will say that I believe that he’s more right about Ryan than wrong.

By MV7 Fan

September 15, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this

Let’s keep Vick out of this, he’s where he should be; in prison.

Now as for Ryan, he’s not the answer. I realize he’s a rookie and all rookies have that welcome to the NFL game, but his “welcome” games will continue for the entire season. You can put lipstick on a pig but in the end it’s still a pig.

By hop

September 15, 2008 6:42 AM | Link to this

i hope matt ryan makes it as an NFL qb,but he is showing once again that he does not have a strong arm.

he has much grit and determination,but he is not mobile coupled with an average arm is not good in the nfl.

manning’s are not very mobile either ,but they both have a very strong arms.

he is a leader and has the respect of the players,hopefully, that will be enough!

By kreese31

September 15, 2008 7:20 AM | Link to this

All of you Bums are trying to give Matt Ryan an out, Don’t you dare go there, most of you c++ksucKers never cgave Vick one, even when his receivers were dropping everything that he put square in thier hands. Matt Ryan Looked BAD!!! overthrown balls, underthrown balls, balls thrown behind receivers-what game were you all watching!! he didn’t even show any poise!!! he was rattled, did you see how RED he was!!!!LOL!!! MV7 never showed that he ws nervous—NEVER!!! Matt Ryan ain’t no damn leader, (did you c him get chewed out by Lawyer Milloy!!! who and how many times was Vick yelled at by teammate,—Never, because the Falcons knew if they got the ball back in MV7s hands, we had a chance!!! do you think that this team feels that way about MATT RYAN—let me answer that for you—-HEEELLLLL NOOOO!!!!!!!! We love You and wait your return MV7; cause Matty Ice just is not that deal!!!!!!!!!!!!

By elephanthead

September 15, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

Be prepared for the MV dead enders to start their ungrammatical howling. They’ve been storing it up waiting for this day, so let em have their fun. This performance was not really a surprise - we all knew they were gong to get a beating sooner or later, the thing to watch is whether or not they learn from it. A few observations…

  • Ryan got pretty flustered, but he hung in and toughed it out. Not bad onsidering the TB D Line was living in the backfield all game.
  • Why have a fullback like Ovie and not have him do what fullbacks do - like lead block?
  • O line is still shaky and is gonna have problems against the better efenses.
  • Brooking has a lot of heart, but he is 3 steps too slow for tha pace of todays game. This should be his last year.
  • Chris Houston looks completely lost. Every time I see him he is on roller skates or 3 yards off the guy who’s about to smoke him.
  • Jamaal Anderson looks like a bust. He was getting tossed like a salad and could not separate himself from the blockers. Put him inside and let Bierman rush outside. Thanks Rich McKay - your eye for talent is more apparent every game.
  • By kreese31

    September 15, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this

    I saw two things yeterday that let’s me know that Matt Ryan sucks!!! he was scared and he can’t throw worth a dam!!! did you all see how RED he was!!! How many times has anyone(teammate) ever yelled a Vick like Milloy did to Ryan!!! NEVER because the TEAM knew that if MV7 had the ball in his hands, we had a chance!! do you think anyone feels that wa yabout Matt Ryan!! HEEELLll NOOOO, I had another post, but just like everyone else, Mark Bradley is trying to PROTECT Matty Ice!!! Damn Matt Ryan!!he cannot play worth a lick!!!!! is this why we paid him so much money, to give excuses when he plays bad, cause if so, then I’ll suit up next week!!!!

    By JB

    September 15, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

    I lived in Indianapolis when Peyton started in the league. He looked just as bad as Ryan did yesterday. It was an abysmal first season for Manning. As long as Ryan doesn’t give up or become shellshocked, the Falcons and him will grow during the course of this season. If Ryan has 2/3rds of the success that Manning has had, the Falcons will be a serious force.

    By bestpost

    September 15, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this

    To Elephanthead:

    The best and most accurate post yet. You are a true football person.

    By elohimfa

    September 15, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

    I think Ryans arm got exposed in the game. His strong armed passes looked very week. Looked like he could barely throw the ball 50 yards.

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

    Ryan did show a lot of heart. However, he does not have an NFL arm. I never saw so many dying quails in my life. Even when he threw the ball out of bounds, there was a lot of flutter in the ball. Vince Young has the same problem except that he has a more mobility. At least Ryan has a cooler head. Unfortunately, that will not win games.

    By D.Ellis

    September 15, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

    As a Ryan supporter from start andw il lbe til lthe finish he looked pretty flustered and bad in the first half. It’s his job to manage the ship and get first downs….which he did not do. However that was in the first half.

    He looked alot better in the second half which was an encouraging sign. Ryan as well as the whole entire team showed alot of fight….when last year they would and did fold up shop and call it a game.

    I don;y remember seeing any screen plays for Norwood. Would have liked to see that. It could have been because they were down so fast….but I thought they did away with the run to fast. Defense played good. They didn’t do a great job of stopping the run. Dunn did his thing. The long run at the end blows up the stats. Seems pretty bad the even Anderson couldn’t get close to the QB…especially one as pedestrian as Griese. Also other than the big hit he had where was Michael Boley?

    This was a bad game. It is going to happen. The team fought. They didn’t give up which was why I watched till the end. Ryan looked about as bad as you can look in the first half…but bounced back to hae a pretty good second half. Would have like to see more Turner/Screens to Norwood to off set the pass rush.

    But in reality thy looked like the team we al lpretty much expected to be. A 5-11 or 6-10 team. Proud of my team and how they played.

    GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Scratching Head

    September 15, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

    *Hey Bradley, in your reply on 9/14 at 10:57 PM, you said, “you were never anything but supportive of Vick as QB.” *

    What (times2)! 1) Your observational and analytical skills were that poor, and 2) you are stupid enough to type it in a blog.

    Also, 24-9 is a not as bad as 37-3 and somehow that makes it ok. Also, no mention of Turner but last week you had all the praise. Oh, and Detroit lost by 23 at home yesterday. No mention of that. You are pathetic.

    By Darrell Robinson

    September 15, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

    I basically just glanced over the article i knew it would be a whole lot of excuses for Matt Ryan …for people that knew anything about football they knew the falcons were not a good team …but for those who hate Micheal Vick you will always make excuses for the falcons and Matt …they most likely will beat Kansas City and then lose 4 in a row ..like i said last week they will win about 4 to 5 games this year as a whole they do look better than last year but that’s not saying much …..all in all the Falcons made a terrible first pick and the future will show this to be true …..but we will argue this week to week and nine times out of ten it will go down racial lines

    By John

    September 15, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

    Matt stood tall after all the cheap shots to his head. This year our team has class and should be proud of our players and coaches. Bring on KC. Go Falcons

    By John

    September 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

    We should be proud of our team they played with CLASS and team effort. Be proud Atlanta that we have a team that will win. Go Falcons

    By Space Mountain

    September 15, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

    Matt Ryan does not play defense. Matt Ryan is not the entire team. Bottom line the offense should have played better but the defense gave up way too many points.

    By Scott Case

    September 15, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

    I’m going to tell it how it is. Some people are saying that he showed grit and guts on the field. He sucked yesterday and you all know it. I remember a certain dogfighting idiot that played his heart out and the falcons lost, but there was no “guts and grit” praises for him. Cut the double standard and tell Matt Ryan to get it together, his salary demands better play.

    By Lord Haw Haw

    September 15, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

    It astonishes the national media that Atlanta still harbors creatures that continue to defend convicted felon Michael Vick. The local media continues to soft-soap his image lest a race riot ensue in the vicinity of Sweet Auburn Avenue. Of course, it helps that the smoking loons have the Hussein Obama figure upon which to transfer their childlike worship. On the bright side [forgive the pun], at least Hussein (so far as we know) does not spead herpes.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

    Now it is hilarious how you people said MV7 is gone let it go. But when your boy looks bad you want to drag MV7 down with him. Matt Ryan did a good job in getting rid of the ball but his problem is he has no arm strength. If his arm strength does not improve over the of season, he will look just as bad next year and the years after. The Falcons drafted a quick fix to public opinion at QB and did not take a look at the long range goals of getting this team to contention. We will probably beat KC next week, then all the optimism from you fair weather foolish, unrealistic fans will resurface. But I am a true falcon fan that realizes this team made a mistake by drafting this QB and should have started building on the lines first. We did not evaluate this kids arm. He cannot make all the throws especially the deep out patterns and this limits the offense. To you know it all people that are questioning the coaching staff, did you expect 200 yards from Turner every game. We played a real team with a real defense this week. If TB had a decent QB they would have beaten us by 40. Matt Ryan passes floated all game even his over throws. That INT he had in the preseason was a true indictor of this guys arm. His arm is suspect at best, I don’t care about the numbers or us losing, I expect that from a rookie QB. Even though I am impressed with his mental approach to the game, what worries me is his physical skills.

    To all you MV7 haters leave the man name out of the Blog, don’t compare this rookie to the QB that took this franchise to the NFC championship game.

    By Algonquin J. Calhoun

    September 15, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

    The racists need to be reminded that Vick is no longer playing in the NFL. He confessed to a felony and is now imprisoned in Leavenworth, Kansas. He didn’t complete any passes yesterday, that we know of!

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

    I guess the cheap shots to the head caused the poor passes. Get real. Ryan will never be a top NFL QB. He is more like Harrington, Smith, Griese,, Sims and the other All American fair skinned flops. You Matty Ice supporters will suffer a lot over the next few years. Losers suck even if they go to church every Sunday.

    By Come on

    September 15, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

    Hey bigeasy830,

    You said, “don’t compare this rookie to the QB that took this franchise to the NFC championship game.

    And Chris Chandler took Atlanta to the Super Bowl. Still want to argue your stupid fact.

    For the other bloggers, the reason we argue Vick across racial lines is because Blank knew a black QB would sell tickets and he was not benched or traded when he should have been.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

    By Darrell Robinson, that was a great post. You said it perfectly. I also see many fans are in agreement that Matt Ryann does not have a NFL arm, but the MV7 haters will argue against that. I tell you all, at the end of the season when you delusional fans realize that we made a mistake, when Mike Smith tell Arthur Blank this kid just don’t have the arm strength, The Falcons will have over 200 million dollars and over 60 million of it guaranteed tied in two QBs. If Matt Ryan is not the answer the smart business thing to do will be to bring back MV7. We will not be able to draft Stafford or Tebow because of the money we have tied into the others. PETA does not attend football games. The Dome will be half empty by the end of the season. MV7 will be the only option the give the franchise a spark financially and to win games.

    By bobby

    September 15, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

    This game was within reach. We need better play at QB so teams will not stack the line. I think stacking the line is what is going to happen from here on out. Matt wasn’t great but he wasn’t horrible either. Second game against Tampa is pretty hard. I never expected Matt to carve up the Tampa D. This is just a reminder that we still need work.

    By Nace

    September 15, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

    Some of you Vick Lovers are accusing Mark Bradley of having a man crush on a QB? Now that’s rich! Be real suckas…

    By Joe

    September 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

    For any idoit that wants to jump on Ryans back, don’t even think about it. This young man got out there in his 2nd start of his NFL career and showed outstanding composure against a defense that EATS Quarterbacks. He got jacked up like nearly every QB does against them. His leadership in the face of some serious physical punishment told me everything I need to know about him.
    Peyton, Eli, Brady, Montana, Young, Aikman, ect…ALL took beatings when they were rookies.
    I’m very excited about seeing them get better every week.

    The best part about it that even when they were behind, they never quit yesterday.

    By Rick

    September 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

    Sure it stinks to get killed, but we should be used to it in Tampa Bay. What I take from this loss is that the team didn’t give up. Every team we’ve had over the last few years would have packed it in midway through the second quarter. I liked the fact that they fought through it. I’m talking about everyone, not just Ryan.

    By Flafalcon

    September 15, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

    2 looked pretty bad. DJ could have done better then that performace. Whats the deal with not running the ball inside the 5yd line? Defense and Ref’s kept us in the game. I have to say #56 has lost it. They ate us up with the short across the middle and that run Dunn made for a score he got man handled by the block. Well at least we had our feel good game for the year last week. I’s going to be a long year. I don’t want to say say it but he did look just as bad as Joey, no arm strength, can’t get the ball deep. I hope we didn’t make the wrong move in getting this guy and putting our future in him.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

    By Come on, you are a retard. Chris Chandler was a vet in the league and the QB that took this team to the greatest season it ever had. I will always be a fan of Chris Chandler for that. Until Matt Ryan can do more than beat a terrible Detroit team then I have no love for him just like I had no love for MV7 until he started to produce on the field. You see I am a Fanatic (FAN) that has a what have you done for my team attitude. Until i realized that Gregg Knapp and Jim Mora was the problem I was ready to run MV7 out of town just you most of you were. . I guess you are trying to make my comment a racial thing, thats on you, whatever floats your boat.

    By This Gets Old

    September 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

    If you watched that game yesterday and COULDN’T see that the Falcons are the coming team in the conference you don’t know how to watch pro football. You guys forget that the coaching staff was working under game conditions for only the second time.

    They’ll get better (even though the offensive coordinator pulled one of his bizarre Pittsburgh red zone freak outs) The GM and HC will realize that the top teams in the league have to score TD’s in the Red Zone and that those teams have TE’s who are a regular part of the passing game and in some cases THE go to guy in the red zone. In addition if the RT was really capable of playing LT then he’d have been doing it from the get go.

    The game on the field isn’t the game on TV. It’s impossibly fast and looking at the entire game one thing is clear - the Falcons could have won that game. Even with all of the ** ups they could have won that game and that’s trouble for everybody else in the division.

    The Falcons are the team on the come (gambling term) and the next time that Atlanta plays the Bucs Ryan will be much better. I was a guy who thought fix the defense first because defense wins (check yesterday) games.

    I wanted a team that had a style of play be it throwing the ball all over the field or smash mouth running game or defense that beat up other teams. I was initially disappointed in the draft but Ryan is the guy.

    Yes Mularkey was the OC of the Steelers but looking back all of the trick plays never won games. Pittsburgh did eventually go out and get a top tier TE. You are not going to run the ball down the throats of your opponent every game. Young QB’s have to have the weapons before you judge them. Why do you think that Warner starts in AZ?

    I was one who was always a Vick defender. He took us where he was supposed to take us. Let’s not forget that he was the top pick in the draft. He’s not where he is because some people didn’t like him.

    By bestpost

    September 15, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

    Great Post “By This Gets Old “. I concur with the TE assessment. We also need to put Keith Brooking out pastor. He no longer cover anyones TE and great liabilty. Also Jamaal Andersen is a bust on the Defensive Line.

    By The Grinch

    September 15, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

    Who kidnapped “This Gets Old” and replaced him with a Falcons fan? Good job. Agreed on all points.

    By not complaining

    September 15, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

    Matt proved why he attended an ACC school, instead of an SEC!! He sucked, all of you who are making excuses for him, will jump off his bandwagon in 3 games!!!! I agree that Shockley would have done better with this team, I will not watch another Falcons game until Shockley is starting!!! Why, Coach Smith lied to us FANS!!! Shockley had no chance to prove why he should start!!!

    You AJC writers need to tell it like it is, stop sugar coating Matty (my ice melted) Ryan!!!!

    By Bill

    September 15, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

    After reviewing the video on the NFL Network, I am positive that the “pass” thrown by Jay Cutler of Denver at the end of the game was in fact a lateral! Why, when the ball traveled backwards, was the official blowing his whistle??? A Little League official knows that when a ball leaves the quarterback’s hand and goes backward, it’s a LIVE ball!!! That was the most egregious error by an official I have seen in professional football, and he should be fired. I have no emotional ties to either team, but feel the game has been seriously damaged by incompetence.

    By Mike Vick

    September 15, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

    Please show your support to Matt Ryan. The Atlanta Falcons Organization deserves it. It is not their fault why we failed over the last season, so please don’t hate on him and continue to support Arthur Blank and the team.

    By dtruth

    September 15, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

    You have got to be kidding. That first series whether he was nervous or not Ryan stunk, was way off the mark on his passes and even the passes that were caught were terrible where the receivers had to make great catches with the exception of a couple. Vick had nothing to do with Ryan’s horrible game, call it like it was, he had a terrible game, he was not Matty Ice. I am a supporter but call it like it is, a bad game by Ryan and lets see what he does next week.

    By VickBeliever

    September 15, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

    Just like there are Vick apopologist. The Matt Ryan apologist are in full effect today. Can one of you Matt Ryan lovers please tell me one thing he has done since he has been here to earn all the praise and glory he has been getting. This guy is no more than a average QB who will say the right thing and do the right thing. I would think and hope that Arthur paid him to win football games. But you hillbillies look out because now the Great White Hope is on film for all teams to see his reaction to pressure. So I will read your excuses for the next 14 weeks and wait for Vick to return and haunt us while we glorify ole Whitey for the next 3 years because after that he will be a bust.

    By True Falcon

    September 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

    Uh… the “excuse” for Matt Ryan is that he’s a rookie. Well documented that Aikman and Manning combined for 4-28 their rookie years. Brady sat for a few years, a la Aaron Rodgers.

    Oh, and I remember SEVERAL games where Vick just flat-out quit. The Chicago game where it was frigid out comes to mind first. Also the Philly game after the Dawkins hit and a couple of Tampa games.

    By jeanE

    September 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

    I am ignoring all of the talk about MV7 because it is OVER people. Move on. It is obious as others have stated, that Matt Ryan does not have an arm. We should’ve been running mid range routes over the middle, again, FINN is awesome at those, he isn’t afraid to take a hit. But he was the forgotten man. BIG MISTAKE. I have no respect for Mularkey whatsoever. It’s apparent that is you can stop our run game, we have nothing. Maybe he will develop, maybe not. But again, I think it was a very unwise boneheaded move the the Falcons to draft this guy & pin all of their hopes & money on him! Why aren’t we buidling the lines, & then drafting our future QB? You can’t tell me b/c I won’t ever believe it, that Ryan is so good that we couldn’t pass him up. Bull. He may be smart, I don’t doubt that, & he may have character & leadership but he has no arm & a stiff wind will knock him down. It would’ve been so much better if we had stuck with a veteran QB this year, drafted a bunch of lineman, win with defense. Oh & Brooking is done. Love him but he’s done.

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

    Everyone will stack the line because Ryan has no arm . It is obvious as the nose on your face. Do not be surprised if they lose to the Chiefs. If Turner can not run the ball, it will be a long day on Sunday. The OL looks the same to me…..bad. How many times did the full back have to pull back to protect Ryan. He cannot lead Turner if there are two defensive guys stacking each hole. The short passes work if Ryan has the time. Thats all he can do….throw short passes. Ryan looks like a wall street broker instead of a QB. What a boring team.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

    By True Falcon, do you remember the game he beat Green bay in Green Bay in the playoffs, Ohhh Ok you conveniently forgot that one or just left it out. You see, most fans know it is gong to be a long year with a rookie QB, but all of you were singing his praises and proclaiming him the next Tom Brady and the Falcons the tema molded after the Patriots. HAHAHAHAHA. That is so funny. The numbers mean nothing. He had the happy feet worst than Joey Harrington, the young QB looked like he was scared. his ar strength is suspect at best. I am tempted to say he does not have an NFL arm. No intangibles can overcome his lack of arm strength. Plain and simple. But, like last week it is only one game and one game does not make a season or career. So, we will wait and see, That why the play the games. Unless it’s the college football and the BCS and winning means absolutely nothing. I hate the BCS if UGA gets screwed this year I am through with college Football.

    By Mark Bradley

    September 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

    Matt Ryan’s arm is fine. Is it as strong as Jeff George’s? No. Was Jeff George a winning quarterback? No.

    Joe Montana didn’t have the biggest arm, either. He seemed to do OK.

    By Charlie

    September 15, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

    To all the Vick Apologists:

    Heretofore, I have kept silent on the issue of you guys continuously bringing up Vick on the ATLANTA FALCONS blog..but no more.

    You make me sick. You are the perps of racial discord.

    Vick is a thug, in prison, where he belongs for his illegal activities.

    You give him a pass just because he is black. You are sick.

    Matt Ryan experienced what every rookie QB does in his first season…Vick didn’t even play his first year. But when he did TB kicked his butt too…and with regularity. Including his last season…Brooks SO had his number.

    Say what you want, but Ryan gets a pass this year no matter how bad he looks or what the record ends up being.

    You guys are a bunch of sorry, pathetic excuses for human beings, with no logic behind your arguments…just painfully distorted rhetoric. Gutless hacks who hide behind your keyboard and explode with the emotion of your racism spewing totally illogical venom toward anyone who criticized your fallen icon.

    Why don’t you admit it? The guy was a DUMMY! Couldnt audible, couldnt read a defense so had to run for his life, couldnt pass so had to run for his life, and nearly single handedly ruined the Atlanta Falcons franchise and many coaching careers.

    A me first, blunt smoking, dog killing, coach killer who killed his own career and you stupid imbeciles persist in defending him.

    Ryan will have his day in the sun along with the rest of this true grit football team D & S are building. It will take time and patience; but we are already better off with as TEAM then we were with Con-Vick. Good riddance! And good riddance to you Apologists, who will fade with time because Vick is no longer relevant. He’ll never play football in the NFL again. Either support the Ryan Express or get out of town…haters.

    Turner, Ryan, Norwood, White, Douglas, Lofton, these are the new Falcons who will make you forget Con-Vick. Patience!

    By Intheknow

    September 15, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

    Come on Guys. WE NEED A QB, plain and simple. Most of you are just making excuses. 13-33 not good at ALL.

    By Jack

    September 15, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

    Anyone who takes pride in a loss is a LOSER!! Yes he recovered and played fairly respectable, but we were outcoached and outplayed, plain and simple… and Matt Ryan wet the bed for the entire first half…why did we llow all those cheap shots to Ryan AFTER plays were over?helmet to helmet? Why don’t we retaliate?Send in a headhunter to teach a lesson?I’m tired of seeing Falcons bullied!!!

    By not complaining

    September 15, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

    Stop Comparing Ryan to Manning, Ryan doesnt own any college championship rings!!! He is not a Manning or Aikmen, He is another Joey Harrington, accept it!!!!!!!!!!

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

    Every QB mentioned including MV7 has one thing that Ryan does not have….a strong arm. They paid too much money for a QB with a franchise face and no arm. The defenses will expose this weakness over the coming weeks. We got the wrong Matt. Stafford has a arm and I am not a Jawja fan. If Ryan starts slowly next Sunday, then they need to set him down and bring in Redmond or Shockley.

    By Jack

    September 15, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

    To all the LOSERS who can’t wait to pounce on Ryan…go apply for conjugal visits at Leavenworth and bring your knee pads so Vick can give you a mouthful of herpes, you f ing LOSERS! You are the ones with a mancrush and Vuck still has a LONG time to serve and THEN a state trial after he gets out…so your dream lover will never play again!!! ha ha ha

    By Jack

    September 15, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

    Ron Mexico will not be back as QB, so off yourself, punk a$$ Vick lovers

    By Jack

    September 15, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

    Jimmy Johnson likes Matt Ryan…referenced Troy Aikman when he said Ryan should play the first year and take his lumps… Jimmy Johnson said Vick wasn’t sh_t! ha ha ha….and now HE NEVER WILL PLAY AGAIN…ha ha ha

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

    Mark Bradley, Matt Ryan arm is not as strong as Jeff George’s arm. Jeff George was the number one pick because of his arm strength, somewhat like Marcus Russell. Jeff George could throw the ball almost 80 yards from what the reports said when he was drafted and if you paid attention to Falcons games while he was here he was a pure passer his mental approach to the game was just terrible meaning him a June Jones did not see eye to eye. So don’t make that comparison in arm strength or even passing ability between George and Ryan.

    By You heard it here first

    September 15, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

    Looks like we got us another thug on this team—- Malloy arested for DUI

    By You heard it here first

    September 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    Looks like we got us another thug on this team—- Malloy arested for DUI

    By pete

    September 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    They are, after all the hoopla and hope, STILL the Falcons. Some things never change.

    By falcondeddy

    September 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    If any of the NFL posterboy QB’s had been cheap-shotted in the chin 3 times with the crown of a defenders helmet, There would have been hell to pay…not just one personal foul on what may have been one of the more ignorant officiating calls of recent memory…both fouls on the defense and they try to offset them???!?! The Defense was steady until they were needed most., particularly when we needed a 3 and out at the end and we allow career practice-squad runner Earnest Graham to bumble along for 65 yards. Allowing Warrick Dunn, who I don’t recall having broken a tackle all of last year, to go untouched to the endzone on 3rd and 17 wasnt very impressive either. Converting on 3rd down against us seems to rank among the easiest things to do in the league right now. Ryan I can excuse this time around…he’s just not ready yet. Defense is going to have to keep us in the games, and they let it slip away. Tampa is horrid on offense. The Packers may put up a 50-spot on us in a few weeks if we can’t improve.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

    By falcondeddy, The defense was worn down in the second half, needless to say we missed big Grady plugging the middle. The D-fense is doing the best it can with two second year CBs and only John Abraham holding it down on the line. That is why most supposed “Vick Lovers” wanted Dorsey, some one who could help on the line. We should start building on the line. But ohh well, it is what it is. We will beat Dorsey’s KC team next week, but it will be a close game. Herm Edwards is a terrible coach but even he has the since to give the ball more to Larry Johnson. But like i said Herm edwards is a terrible coach so he my not.

    By falcondeddy

    September 15, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

    If any of the NFL posterboy QB’s had been cheap-shotted in the chin 3 times with the crown of a defenders helmet, There would have been hell to pay…not just one personal foul on what may have been one of the more ignorant officiating calls of recent memory…both fouls on the defense and they try to offset them???!?! The Defense was steady until they were needed most., particularly when we needed a 3 and out at the end and we allow career practice-squad runner Earnest Graham to bumble along for 65 yards. Allowing Warrick Dunn, who I don’t recall having broken a tackle all of last year, to go untouched to the endzone on 3rd and 17 wasnt very impressive either. Converting on 3rd down against us seems to rank among the easiest things to do in the league right now. Ryan I can excuse this time around…he’s just not ready yet. Defense is going to have to keep us in the games, and they let it slip away. Tampa is horrid on offense. The Packers may put up a 50-spot on us in a few weeks if we can’t improve.

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

    Milloy got drunk and arrested because he realized that he would be busting his butt over the coming weeks only to watch “No arm” Ryan move the ball on occasion to the red zone only to kick a field goal. It would drive any man to drink.

    By the way, have you noticed that with all the drunks in Metropolitan Atlanta, the cops always seem to find the black athletes? Sounds like DECWB( driving expensive cars while black).

    By Glenn

    September 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    He does have moxie . I like him . If we give him tools & he continues to grow the Falcons will be just fine . I am just as impressed with Mike Smith . This starting over phase for the Falcons really seems to have some substance .

    By Po Po

    September 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

    Keeping it real, ha ha ha we wont stop until ALL of you are in jail!!! so put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!!

    By ricknole

    September 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

    Ya’ll are some of the most IG-Nant people I have ever seen (eventhough I dont see you).

    Get over this Vick crap, dude is in jail. The Falcons has absolutely nothing to do with this dog fighting mess.

    Authur Blank asked Mike Vick point blank, “Do you have anything to do with this dog fighing scandal” and Mike responded “NO!!!!”

    What the f-ck else are they supposed to do. Stop it with the hood mentality.
    They signed this guy to the larges NFL contract in history (at that time). That showed that Blank and the franchise believed in him and wanted Vick to succeed.

    Vick shot himself in the foot!!

    If you can not support Matt Ryan and this current Falcons team, then I suggest you go and support another team or go and support Vick and the “replacements”

    By True Falcon

    September 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

    Regarding Vick’s shining moment at Lambeau in the playoffs, there were many factors that contributed to that win. Green Bay’s defense that year turned out to be very mediocre. As I recall it was the very next week that Dawkins laid the wood to little Vicky. Mike would have been GREAT as a Devin Hester/Randle El/Hines Ward type player but hewas no QB. He has a rocket arm but no touch. What made Mike special was his running ability. Once teams figured out that he couldn’t move the team down the field with an intermediate passing game they simply kept their ends at heel depth to contain, sent pressure up the middle, and dropped six. This is why the falcons could run between the 20s. The only teams he was effective against his last couple years were those with slow DEs. The Simeon Rice/Jevon Kearse types shut him down completely.

    Call me silly but I’ll take my offense with athletes at WR and RB and a QB that can pass accurately. Vick taking off from the pocket is no different than Ryan hitting a check-down except that Ryan can avoid a sack by throwing it at the check-down receiver’s feet. Think about it.

    By VickBeliever

    September 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

    Jack you are a complete racist and I look forward to your Matt Ryan excuses every week. Matt is nothing but a glorified average QB with the measureables but that does not win games and as far as them getting bullied that is what happen went you put choir boys up against real football players. You people got what you want so take the misery along with it. You’ll be out haunting every week just like all your other hill billy friends on this board in about 3 weeks.

    By Ryder

    September 15, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

    Ok, time to address all of these issues one by one:

    1) TO THE MORON WHO SAID RYAN DOESN’T OWN ANY COLLEGE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS: I don’t remember Peyton winning any titles either. JB: thank you for your astute analysis on Peyton’s first year. He was on a 3-13 team but didn’t pack it in, and now look at where he is.

    2) TO THE MORON WHO COMPARED RYAN TO JEFF GEORGE: George may have had a cannon for an arm, but last I checked it was intelligence and leadership that won titles, not who could throw the ball 80 yards down field. George was a selfish twit and a poor excuse for a leader. Ryan took his lumps like a man and will get better. Just watch.

    3) TO THE P** WHO ARE STILL CRYING THEMSELVES TO SLEEP WEARING A #7 JERSEY BECAUSE THEIR BOY TOY’S IN PRISON: GO TO H*LL!

    Personally I believe Atlanta’s offense will be ahead of their defense by the end of the season. Dimitroff and Smith will then dedicate the draft and free agency to building up the D-lines and the secondary and then WATCH OUT!

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

    By True Falcon fan, I refuse to argue with a man who makes excuses for one QBs failures and then disregard the obvious in the others success. You have your opinion and i have mine. Time will tell one which of us are right. Thats why they play the games. I do wish Matt ryan luck and i agree with anyone about his intangibles. he does check down and do other things better than most rookies have in the past, but his arm strength is suspect at best. i think he has a weak arm, but who knows its just 2 games into the season. And this day in time in athletic training he can do alot to improve his arm strength over time. But, to all ATLANTA MEDIA, please no more comparisons between Matt Ryan an Tom Brady or the Falcons and NE until we win Super Bowls.

    Thank You.

    By Vick Smick

    September 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

    Hey Charlie,

    Re: your post on September 15, 2008 10:16 AM

    Rock and Freakin Roll. What a post!

    By Matt Schaub

    September 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

    I remember when that idiot Jack thought I was a pro-bowl superstar quarterback, I suck and Matt Ryan sucks! Jack you don’t know sh!t, but hey at least Matt and I are white so you like us!

    By Jack

    September 15, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

    Vick is in prison… Vick is in prison…Vick is in prison…Vick is in prison…Vick is n prison…Vick is in prison…Vick is in prison…HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

    By Ryder you dumb a$$, before you call someone a moron read the entire post. Your tone on the blog indicates that you are upset, what your domestic partner did not give you a reach around this morning. You are not a ryder it seems like you are the one being rode.

    By Jim Hightower

    September 15, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

    Yes, Ryan had a bad day, but he had plenty of company, namely Mr. Turner. Based on what I saw of Turner tip-toeing (not through but into Tampa) I think he basically took a dive. His legs were shutting down ASAP after he was hit. I also wonder why Coach Smith didn’t put Shockley in for a few downs, at least give Tampa a change of pace and Shockley could make a few runs since none of the other Falcons wanted anything to do with football on Sunday. They seemed to want Warrick to have a good day. Well he had one, I will give him that.

    By Jim Hightower

    September 15, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

    Yes, Ryan had a bad day, but he had plenty of company, namely Mr. Turner. Based on what I saw of Turner tip-toeing (not through but into Tampa) I think he basically took a dive. His legs were shutting down ASAP after he was hit. I also wonder why Coach Smith didn’t put Shockley in for a few downs, at least give Tampa a change of pace and Shockley could make a few runs since none of the other Falcons wanted anything to do with football on Sunday. They seemed to want Warrick to have a good day. Well he had one, I will give him that.

    By not complaining

    September 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

    to the moron, who said manning doesnt have any championship rings. Well, he did win an SEC championship, which is more difficult to win than a NC, since the BCS is a joke. The SEC champion is clearly the best team in the Nation!!!!!

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

    No way Matt Ryan gets pulled from a game unless he is injured. or we are winning big. It would crush his confidence. DJ will not get a shot at QB on this team. Even i realize that, no way do you take away valuable time and energy from the #3 overall pick for a 7th round pic with a history of knee injuries. I love DJ, I am an UAG dawg myself, but, it is what it is. We will have to ride or die with Matt Ryann For at least 3 years. I wish Matt Ryan success, because if he succeeds then the Falcons succeeds. But, he needs to improve his arm strength. Most people can see that if they weren’t blinded by hatred of the QB who as some of you all put it, “in prison”, “did not throw a pass yesterday”, and many more comical sayings.

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

    Po Po

    What do you mean when you say all of you. I am white just like you. I am so glad that we have Po Po watching over us white guys while you lock up the black guys and keep them away from our women HEH!!! HEH!!! HEH!!!!

    By Dawgbyte

    September 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

    The Bucs have the Falcon’s number like the Gators had the Dawg’s. Looks like when they come to the Dome an endzone celebration and/or black jersies are called for.

    By Erik

    September 15, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

    Hey, VickBeliever,

    What is it that you “believe” about Mick Vick? Do you believe he’s in prison? Do you believe he lied to the commissioner? Do you believe he is proven felon? Do you believe he was an AVERAGE QB that made plays sparingly?

    The jury is very much still out on Ryan. But you are “predicting” he will be average. Check out MV’s stats over his career. He was the epitome of AVERAGE.

    And Keeping It Real, No, Milloy wasn’t DECWB( driving expensive cars while black), he was SPEEDING. In case you and him didn’t know, that’s AGAINST THE LAW, just like DOG-FIGHTING.

    But, you know, I guess being caught drunk off your a* while speeding is just another case of whitey trying to keep a brother down.

    ZERO common sense.

    By Bemused

    September 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

    I’m encouraged. Except on that last TD run by the Bucs, the Falcons played tougher and with more resilience than in the Petrino/late Mora era. Turner disappointed, true, but Matt Ryan looks like a winner to me. Come on, guys, name me one QB besides Big Ben who has looked even decent his rookie year.

    By Lost in space ATL. Falcons

    September 15, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

    29.9 passer rating Matt Ryan! Fact with a better offense line ! Vick 20 TD passing and 1039 rushing is history . No other player in the History of the NFL has done that in one season Fact.

    But (some love) love PR than the best players. Every year a Atlanta player is thrown under the bus. Milloy your turn. yes he was speeding and DUI. “Falcons black player”. They are out to get you any ways. And you know if you are wrong they make a sport of throwing you under the bus in Georgia. The Po Po is not your frind if you don’t know by now. Black player you need a green card here in Metro Atlanta.

    By Boo Boo

    September 15, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

    You have to remember why rookie quarterbacks are better off holding a clipboard on the sideline their first year - they can watch and learn, while not being the one blamed for losses. The smart GM will have a serious talk with Mike Smith and gently inform Matt Ryan he is going to be QB #2 for a while, while he has a 1 - 1 record. If they are going to lose, place that stink on a disposable man, like Redman (but certainly not D.J. - not yet). Matt Ryan has his feet wet and his head still high; but remember this:

    Gary Grandivew, when the Defensive Coordinator of the Houston Oilers, made it a point of making Jim Everett pay for refusing to sign with the Oilers, as their first round draft choice (first QB taken in 1986). Everett paid by always being blitzed mercilessly by the Grandview defense, every time his team played the Rams. That was twice a year when Grandview became the head coach of the Falcons. Everett had a fairly successful career, when plugged into a playoff team of veteran players; but once Everett showed himself as “Chris” Everett, sacking himself in a playoff game, everyone knew all you had to do was pressure him and he falls apart.

    Matt Ryan showed in the first half Ssunday that pressure made him like a deer in headlights. The Falcons are not good enough to get behind 17 - 0 and come back to win. They were barely good enough to get ahead 21 - 0 and not lose.

    Ryan is starting because of Arthur Blank, more than anyone else. If Mike Smith cannot make a QB change for the good of the team, then Mike Smith might end up running off to coach Middle Tennessee State and Matt Ryan might start killing dogs just to get some pent up anger released, from being sacked and cheap-shotted week after week.

    By mcday

    September 15, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

    I’m a Vick fan and will always be a Vick fan, however I really have to take my hat off to Matt Ryan because he took some dirty cheap shots by Little Chuckies Goons!!! I think that Matt Ryan will be a great QB one day and I wish him the best.

    By True Falcon

    September 15, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

    Guys let’s not crucify Milloy. An awful lot of DUI’s are given out around town every day. On the flip side, those who are suggesting he was pulled over because he is a black football player are numbnut morons.

    By DMac

    September 15, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

    This is a wake up call for me. I bought into that O-Line way to much last week. The bottom line is the Tampa D line and O Line are better than ours. Detroit is bad. I was hoping for maybe a miracle and we could competative in our division. We are what we are right now. 5 win team. On another note Tampa had no less than 3 helmet to helmet hits. One of those was absolutely scary. It looked intentional. I hope they get disciplined in some way.

    By Gotta Love The South

    September 15, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

    Only in the south can a sports board turn racist!

    You have black peoplel here in the south that blame racism on EVERYTHING!

    Then you have whites here in the south that refuse to address how prevelant racism is in the good old confederacy!

    What a State!

    By DOTHAN

    September 15, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

    Hey bigeasy830, don’t make everything racial. The same people who were criticizing Vick were also criticizing Jeff George when he played here!!!!!!!!!

    By VickBeliever

    September 15, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

    Erik its not what I believe its what I know. If Mike Vick defense gave him as many chances as they gave Matt Ryan yesterday the outcome would have been different another thing I know is that you white people have be starving to have a Great White Hope you will make excuses for days for Matt scary feet Ryan. What I do know is Vick to us to to the second round of the playoffs his first year starting with a awful team and coach. Yes Vick made a horrible mistake and decision and he has own up to it like a man and doing his time. So let’s not for one second what he brought to this city and that is respect for our football team. Now we are just average again with your stiff Great White Hope. SMUCK ALL YOU RACIST. Vick will be back…

    By T.BAY

    September 15, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

    Hey sorry falcon fans,last week people was posting vick who?now you have excuses for that sorry prick(ryan leaf).He held the ball too long,was throwing the ball to what he thought was 15 foot recievers and was running for his life.I told yall wishy washy alcon fans(better known as the worst fans of all sports)that they(the alcons)will get a beat down.Now listen at yall,”they were hiting ryan too hard trying to hurt him”.I got news for yall,2 INT and 25 more to go.He can’t throw the deep ball,can’t run,and looked like harringtons twin.Did yall see his eyes behind center?they were so big you would have thought it was halloween nite and he saw monsters.Don’t try and make him out to be superman,you saw the game and he was horrible.Give it more time and yall sorry fans will be tuning up your mouths to say,BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

    By T.BAY

    September 15, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

    Hey sorry falcon fans,last week people was posting vick who?now you have excuses for that sorry prick(ryan leaf).He held the ball too long,was throwing the ball to what he thought was 15 foot recievers and was running for his life.I told yall wishy washy alcon fans(better known as the worst fans of all sports)that they(the alcons)will get a beat down.Now listen at yall,”they were hiting ryan too hard trying to hurt him”.I got news for yall,2 INT and 25 more to go.He can’t throw the deep ball,can’t run,and looked like harringtons twin.Did yall see his eyes behind center?they were so big you would have thought it was halloween nite and he saw monsters.Don’t try and make him out to be superman,you saw the game and he was horrible.Give it more time and yall sorry fans will be tuning up your mouths to say,BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

    By Ryan Leaf

    September 15, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

    Come on sports fans, Ryan looked like a scared rabbit. He had a few good throws once Tampa dialed down the pressure. Instead of Mattie Ice, how about Mattie rabbit.

    By Keeping It Real

    September 15, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

    Erik and True Falcon,

    As I told Po Po, I am white just like you. I guess the problem I am having is that I am married to a black woman. Because of that,I guess that explains why I see racism for what it is.

    By Erik

    September 15, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

    To VickBeliever,

    The day we moved into position to draft Mike Vick was the happiest day in my life as a Falcon Fan. While he gave us many exciting moments and did win a couple of playoff games, any knowledgeable sports fan could see he was not improving as a QB.

    Then, off the field, he made misstep after misstep BEFORE the dogfighting thing came out. Sorry fellas, but black, white, red, or brown, Vick had to go. I wanted more than anything for Vick to stay here and succeed but he and he alone chose his path.

    As for wanting a great white hope, that’s ridiculous. I didn’t even want Ryan, I wanted Glen Dorsey. But seeing as how I’m a falcons fan, I’ll stand behind him and give him a chance to grow. I make no excuses for Ryan’s play. He’s a rookie and he’s going to make mistakes, just like Vick made mistakes.

    But I tell you what I won’t do: support Matt Ryan just because he’s white, which is exactly the reason you pulled for Mike Vick, because he’s black. I want to win and I don’t give a F what color our QB is.

    MV brought a lot to this city, no doubt. But he and the Falcons were average to below average in every year of his except for two. Do you define that as success? Vick never engineered back to back winning seasons. Is that success?

    To KeepingItReal, please show me one racist mark I have written. You can’t do it. Calling MV a felon is true. Saying his stats and the Falcons success were mostly average is true. Saying Milloy was speeding isn’t racist, it’s a fact. I never said Iw anted a white QB, I never said I didn’t like Vick, and I never said anything remotely racial in nature. But, that’s okay, keep blaming the white man for Vick going to jail and Milloy getting pulled over. If ANYONE has a fancy car, it’s going to attract attention. It is common sense that one shouldn’t speed while drunk, especially someone in a nicer car.

    By Henry

    September 15, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

    Hey Erik, I’m black and I agree with you. Vick is a tremendous athlete and he made plays. But because of his lack of maturity, he made some horrible decisions and now he’s in jail. He has no one to blame but himself that the Falcons have decided to move on. I’m a fan of the team and WHOEVER the QB is, I want to see that QB play well and win black or white. I wanted Dorsey but they went with Ryan and now AS A FAN OF THE TEAM AND NOT ONE GUY( VICK) I want THE TEAM to win and Ryan to play well because they( management) have decided to go with him!!!! I was impressed with how he regrouped in the second half and marched the team into the red zone a couple of times. He didn’t quit. We shouldn’t give up on him after just one bad game!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

    By Dothan, go back and read my comments and the comments of those I responded to. You will not see me write anything on racial lines. I was responding to Mark Bradley’s comments that Matt Ryan arm is just as strong as Jeff George’s arm. I brought up Marcus Russell because his arm strength is comparable to Jeff George’s arm strength and Russell was drafted 1st overall just like Jeff George. You see the comparison now. Do you understand my point. I don’t care about the June Jones/Jeff George era. Thats over I was disagreeing with Mr. Bradley. Before you make a point to call out a blogger read the post first not part of it. If I made myself unclear give me the opportunity to explain. I drank a lot of cheap liquor, cold beer and ran many hot women at UGA and had to retake English 102. This was before the spell check days on computers. No one had a lap top. So, I know I cannot spell and many times use dangling participles and all that grammar mumbo jumbo. But hang in there with me brother and we will get through it. HAHAHAHAHA

    By Mark Bradley

    September 15, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

    I didn’t say Ryan’s arm was as strong as Jeff George’s. I said it wasn’t as strong. Feel free to check above.

    By Vick Supporter

    September 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

    Boy…. that Matty Ice sure looked good out there this past sunday,lol. They need to put him in the hall fo fame 2morrow,lolololol. You falcon fans are so gullible, you people fell for that first game (13 passes) and thought you had the second coming of Montana. This dude is weak, is good to have the brains, but if you don’t have the physical skills, you’re just another Chad Pennington. I’m telling you, the Falcons ran a playaction bootleg and Ryan reached back with all his might and the s** just floated like a leaf, lol. Now you people are making excuses for him just like I predicted. Ryan is gonna feel the pressure like Vick did. He couldn’t even drop back without have 2 men in his face, like Vick did. The Falcons suck man. When you lose a dynamic player like the Great Mike Vick, its hard to recover. To bad alot of the caucasian folks won’t admit it, by they also won’t admit that Bush has ruined this country either so its nothing new. We miss you Vick, and can’t wait for your redemption.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

    I apologize Mark, I have those cheap liquor flashbacks from time to time.

    By dee

    September 15, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

    I thought Matt Ryan showed a lot of fight yesterday. The kid got knocked on his butt all day but kept fighting! But, let’s face it people, he does not have a NFL caliber arm. The kid from Denver, Cutler, Now that’s a cannon!!!

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

    By Dee, There is a movie called Redemption Starring Jamie Foxx. The guy was still executed in the end. I am just saying… take it for what it is.

    By bigeasy830

    September 15, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

    By Vick Suporter, There is a movie called Redemption Starring Jamie Foxx. The guy was still executed in the end. I am just saying… take it for what it is.

    By A_Town_Down

    September 15, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

    Matt showed guts, but his performance was horrid. He has 14 more games to play so the evaluation should continue, but he HAS to show more arm strength to keep 8 out of the box.

    Guts + limited talent = NFL backup at best.

    By Charlie

    September 15, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

    Hey Vick’s Jock Supporter:

    You must have a brain the size of a pea. “The Great Mike Vick”. Hahaha!

    Continue to fool yourself into believing that. You are as gullible as the day is long and have “bought in” to putting somebody on a pedastal and are now worshiping him as your false idol.

    There will be no redemption. You are living in the past; in more ways than one.

    Don’t surmise to know what caucasians are thinking and don’t pretend that chip on your shoulder gives you license to act like some know it all about Matt Ryan, just because your football messiah fell from grace doing terrible things to poor defenseless animals in the black of night when he thought nobody was watching.

    Your an idiot who wants to tear down a kid who has just come out because your *issed off that your thug is in prison and his talent is rotting away in some cell. Too bad buster! Put a sock in it or get off this blog.

    By A_Town_Down

    September 15, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

    “Matty Ice” supporters remember that Griese was the opposing QB and routinely missed open receivers all game.

    Bashing Ryan aside, I really like what our coaching staff is doing with play-calling and schemes. I hope that they don’t lose the team trying to cover-up the mistake of starting Ryan.

    By A_Town_Down

    September 15, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

    Charlie wipe the foam from your face.

    Ryan has 14 games this season to show his promise and at least 8 to 10 games next year to prove he is the franchise.

    The truth is… if Matt shows some promise and ability to win in the NFL the fan base will follow and us Vick Supporters will support Ryan and support Vick when he’s not playing us.

    Simple as that!

    By CA

    September 15, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

    OK my Little Thunder Dunkies LISTEN UP

    “It takes 30 Games before you know how good a QB will be or not be” Bill Walsh

    Kill this Thread

    By JJ

    September 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

    Mark, is there a way that you or the ajc can monitor these blogs? I know you guys just cut your staff but this blog is full of race spewing hatred on both sides. Lets keep it about the falcons ‘08 good or bad. I really enjoy talks about specifics (the cover 2 story was great over the weekend!). If only we could find a kick a* zebra quarterback to satisfy all you haters! I just want to win, who cares about color? NOT THE MAN UPSTAIRS!

    By VickBeliever

    September 15, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

    Erik you are wrong again nobody here on this board supports Vick because he is Black. The truth of the matter is he is supported because he was one of the greatest Falcons and did so much for this team. Granted he made terrible choices which has landed him where he is today. But myself like all Vick supporters are saying don’t miniumize what he did for the team. His mistakes was you and your people chance to call him a Thug, dumb etc. All day on the news they are talking about Lawer Milloy DUI last night and what penalty he should face but when the white athelete Matt Jones was caught in the park sniffing cocaine it was mysteriously forgotten. You explain that. Nobody has once showed Vick any sympathy even after he admitted his mistake. Let’s keep it real this is a racist city and there is nothing you or I can do about it.

    By kreese31

    September 15, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

    MARK BRADLEY!! If there is nothing wrong with Matty Ice’s arm, then he really sucks!! did you see those flutter balls, and the wind was not that bad!!! we should have drafted Dorsey!!!!!

    By JJ

    September 15, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

    VickBeleiver, why cant we just talk about the 53 man roster of OUR falcons? You just made a statement “all you people”, is that not racist? I know their are race baiters on this blog (on both sides) but their allot lower than you think. We are falcons fanatics or we wouldnt be on this blog. I beleive you are a true falcon fan and the majority of us would be exstatic with any color winning us games! I want to go back to the superbowl, period. Dont you? Once again, who cares what color skin they have? This is our team! When mv7 gets out and is reinstated, then lets talk about him! If matt sucks, bring back 7, just want to win baby!!! It may be a racist city but we can start the change on this blog!!! GO FALCONS!!!!!

    By Falcon Freddie

    September 15, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

    Vickbeliever, I’ll explain, a white athlete snorting cocaine in the park is a “white collar” crime which merits, community service, probation, small fine. Whereas Lawyer Malloy’s DUI is a major crime that should be held over for the next Federal Grand Jury. I’m thinking 1 to 5 years hard time, $100,000 fine and asked not to return to practice. I was pre-Law. It’s called the American Justice System

    By footballfan_30127

    September 15, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

    Ryan has a noodle arm!! LOL. He can’t throw an accurate pass more than forty or so yards down the field. Defenses will pick up on this and adjust their deep defenders. Watch what I tell you. So much for the “THE GREAT WHITE HYPE”!

    OH, and as far the HYPE article, “He showed some fight”, what was he going to do, QUIT! What a blown up piece of trash article….

    By Shawn dodson

    September 15, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

    Vick believer,i’m in agreement with you all the way.It sickens me how some are so quick to turn their backs on one when another can be let off the hook.Mike Vick is not the monster that he is made out to be.If anybody should have his back it should be the falcons and their Fans!I stand by mike 100% through all his good times and bad times as well.Why,some of you might ask.Well,it’s because i’m a real true fan that’s why!Mike has done so much for the game of football.He has taken the position of QB to another level.I would bet anything that if mike came back to the falcon those who are dissing him now would welcome him.

    By kreese31

    September 16, 2008 6:06 AM | Link to this

    I can’t believe that all of you Dumb++ss wnt to give Matt Ryan CREDIT for “HANGING IN THERE” what a crock of boo-boo, Is he not the STARTING QB? then what in the hell do you all mean by hanging in there, hell he was suppossed to “Hang IN THERE”. If it had been Vick, all of you naysayers would have been saying he quit, he’s inaccurate, he’s not an NFL QB, well guess what it was Matt Ryan out there dropping those bs a== passes and instead of giving him the same discord, you all and MARK BRADLEY want to praise him for doing what he was SUPPOSED to DO!!! he is paid 72mil. he’s suppose to play and “HANG IN THERE”!! what BullsH!!!!! I am tired of White QB’s getting a pass just because they are white!!!If D.Mcnabb, VY, MV7, Tavaris Jackson, or any other blck QB had played like Matty Ice did on Sunday, all of you all would be calling for his job!!! For Example, Tarvaris Jackson did NOT play a poor game, a reciever dropped a TD and several other passes were dropped. Indy just outschemed them in the second half, but you know what everyone is saying, its Tarvaris Jacksons fault, thats Bull*, then you all want to praise Matt Ryan just for playing!!!! all of you racist bloggers are a piece of s*t and I want you all to know that Matt Ryan SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

    By kreese31

    September 16, 2008 6:23 AM | Link to this

    This is exactly what Donovan McNabb meant when he said that Blk QBs are judged differently!! a blk QB can be off just a little bit on a pass and a commentator(RON Jaworski, Mark Schlereth) will say something like “(whomever the blk QB is) is way off today!! let a wht QB throw the exact same pass beyond the reciever and the commentators will say something like”(whomever the wht QB is)needs to get help from his receivers” we saw it on Sunday!! Matt Ryans completion to Laurent Robinson was WAAAAYY behind Robinson, so much so it turned him around-don’t listen to me, go look at the tape!! But the commentators said, on that pass, that Ryan is really getting in rythm! what a crock of doody!!!! I bet Laurent Robinson chewed Matty Ice out about that dam pass too!! there is a double standard when it comes to evaluating blk and wht QB’s. It’s like the Blk QBs are Being punished for being athletic!! look at how weak the game of Football has become to protect them p*syas Drop-back QBs. I grew up on, if he suits up, then he gets drilled!!! QB are players too, but in order to protect the Dan Marinos, the peyton mannings and the like the NFL has adopted rules not to touch the QB. what punks!!! in a few yrs, we can thank WHT non athletic QB’s for letting WOMEN get out there and play QB!!! hell they already cant be touched!!!!!

    By marcos

    September 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

    I am worried about Ryans’ arm strength. Check out the attempted long throws. When he set himself and then threw with all his might for the long one-his form was terrible and the ball fluttered way short. And Bradley, I’m glad to see you read these comments. It’s amazing that you will write something and then be accused of saying something opposite of what you actually wrote.I suppose it’s an occupational hazard, but keep up the good work, more of us are with you than against you.

    By bigeasy830

    September 16, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

    By kreese31, you are right to a larger degree but MV7, T. Jackson, V. Young needs to learn to read defenses and get rid of the ball faster. D. Mcnabb learned a few years back that he cannot change the QB position. He had to cahaange his game. Read Jason Whitlocks two articles he wrote on V. Young one he wrote on 9/11/2008 and it has a link to the other he wrote before young was drafted. Don’t compare D. Mcnabb to the others he learned the others have not.

    By Mark Bradley

    September 16, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

    Thanks, Marcos.

    By VickBeliever

    September 16, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

    I guess all white QB’s are smart and accurate passer’s. I have never heard those words mentioned when talking about any white QB. Falcon Freddie you have to be the dumbest Law student ever to sit there and rationalize a crack head versus a man speeding in a car..JJ when I use the term all you people that is not a racist comment it is just a way to reference all of the white people on this board continue run Mike Vick in the ground and praise the unproven Matthew Ryan. Again, You People are sickening sometime with your racial bias and you don’t even realize that you are a racist. To praise Matt Ryan because he hung in there is a bunch of bull. Like KREESE31 said what was he suppose to do. #2 will never ever fill the shoes of #7.

    By Charlie

    September 16, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

    Hey Krees32 or whatever that means:

    Ryan doesn’t get a pass because he’s white dummy. He gets a pass because he’s a rookie. You are the one making it about black and white. Yes he’s throwing behind his receivers, but you read WAY too much into commentators remarks. It shows how your mind works; you are eat up with it man. Get some help!

    Who’s bashing T. Jackson? I haven’t seen it. I love McNabb..I think he is awesome and has true grit.

    But you wanna play the race card? It is folks like you who are making this AJC blog about race. You bring up Vick over and over again. You have a sickness and need to see a doctor. VickBeliver also.

    Let it go guys. He is gone. He will NEVER be back. Ever. Maybe CFL. We are sick of you and sick of the story.

    And quit race baiting on the blog. Quit using the black/white thing to boost your sorry self esteem and make yourself feel better by getting on your soap box about it. You guys are Pathetic!

    By the way, I love Lawyer, but have you heard of ZERO tolerance these days? It applies to everyone including elite atheletes.

    By bigeasy830

    September 16, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

    By Vickbeliever, By Kreese31, race has nothing to do with a Qb learning to play the position. Lets be honest MV7 was struggling in the paasing game before his legal troubles. Maybe it was Knapp and Mora Jr. fault but to a larger degree it was his own fault for not becoming a student of the game. Same thing is happening to V. Young, Coach Fisher is right for naming Collins starter until team starts losing. Mobile Qbs depend on their atletism to much and do not spend enough time learning how to truely play the position, Steve Young said he had the same problem early on in his career. D. McNabb realized it and made an effort to learn the correct way to play the position. I have lead the charge in saying that Matt Ryann has a weak arm, I first voiced my concern after he threw that pick 6 in that preseason game. But, Matt Ryan does have heart and has shown ability to read defenses and check off to his 2nd and 3rd options way beyond his experince level. Matt Ryan can improve his arm strength. V. Young on the other hand is a complete mess. Race has nothing to do with it. It is what it is.

    By Ahill

    September 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

    Matt Ryan will fail as a quarterback in the NFL. He will end up as a great backup one day. Ryan has no talent. You need to be a talented athlete to be in this professional league. Ryan is smart and should get ready to coach one day. Vick will play again, he is a talented athlete. I watch football to be entertained, not preached to about how I should live my life. This is America and I will decide what things I will do and will not do. I do not worship the players like many of you do. They are here to entertain me. Ryan is not entertaining. He can work hard all he wants, he needs the physical tools to succeed. This is the NFL, not powder puff football.

    By Ahill

    September 16, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

    Matt Ryan will fail as a quarterback in the NFL. He will end up as a great backup one day. Ryan has no talent. You need to be a talented athlete to be in this professional league. Ryan is smart and should get ready to coach one day. Vick will play again, he is a talented athlete. I watch football to be entertained, not preached to about how I should live my life. This is America and I will decide what things I will do and will not do. I do not worship the players like many of you do. They are here to entertain me. Ryan is not entertaining. He can work hard all he wants, he needs the physical tools to succeed. This is the NFL, not powder puff football.

    By VickBeliever

    September 16, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

    Ok I get it all the white people want everyone who supports Vick through his good and bad times to just go away and instantly make the unproven Mathew Ryan our Great White Hope. Listen people just because he is smart 6’4 and speaks well to the media WILL NOT and let me repeat that WILL NOT make him a great QB. So just because he has a good game here and there because our running backs are rushing for 200 yards plus don’t crown weak ar Ryan yet. He will soon realize that the NFL is not the ACC. Arthur bLANK WILL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH HE CAN’T BUILD A cHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM WITH A BUNCH OF CHOIR BOYS. In your efforts to further distant yourself from Vick. It will back fire no other city but racist Atlanta would have turn on a man who has done so much for a franchise.

    By Charlie

    September 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

    VickBeliever, you talk like Ryan has had two seasons to prove himself and that he is a bust. You haven’t even given him a chance, and you won’t just because he is white. That is pure racism.

    You act like Vick was the messiah. That he didn’t make any mistakes. Sure he was exciting, but he had his flaws, or have you forgotten? Couldn’t audible, couldn’t read a D, ran for his life, threw too hard and was inaccurate?

    It’s obvious to most of us bloggers that you don’t know a thing about football. You appear to be a race baiter and a racist. Statements like “all white people”. Well you know what? All black people don’t think like you do. All black people are not eat up with the race card playing in their mind over and over again. “You People”. Haha! That says it all! White folks have tippy toed around that phrase for years to avoid being perceived as racist. Now you think you have license to use the phrase, as well as other derogatory phrases toward races of all colors. What gives you the right?

    Look, (and you too Ahill) just because you say Matt Ryan will be a failure, doesn’t make it so. As a matter of fact, you have no power here. And your opinion means nothing. You are a voice in the wind that will fade away like a distant memory.

    You guys haven’t even given the kid a chance; we don’t know even know what he can do yet.

    You just don’t like him because he’s white and he’s not Vick. Sad.

    By VickBeliever

    September 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

    Charlie you are a complete joke. I guess they don’t teach you hillbillies how to read up in the woods. I never said Mive Vick was without error fault all I said is YOU PEOPLE call people who support Vick aplolgist when we are not apologizing for nothing Vick did. All I am saying let’s not forget what he did for this city and team. Furthermore, you stated and I quote, ‘Vick Couldn’t audible, couldn’t read a D, ran for his life, threw too hard and was inaccurate? My question to you Charlie Boy is how inaccurate was Matt Ryan and how well did he read thier defense but yet no has ever said a white QB inaccurate or could not read a defense. Yet when the white QB has a bad game every excuse in the world is giving to him. Go back and read all the blogs not one Matt Ryan supporter used the word inaccurate, dumb, could not read the defense when obviously he was clueless. So again its not about race its about being fair and honest. I wonder how Vick whom you say is not accurate won so many games with less talent, no coaching, no off line. I guess you would have to say he was damn good.

    By VickBeliever

    September 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

    Charlie be serious take a step back and look at yourself and then ask this question do you think for one sec we as Black people don’t understand your hidden racism, hatred you are crazy. If you don’t think Black QB’s are treated different than wHITES you are so far out of touch with reality and this is not just to you its for all the Vick bashers. If the only thing good you can say about Matt Ryan as a football player is that he is smart and can read a defense you will see sooner than later it takes SKILLS. I am willing to bet that you and the other people up north on this blog don’t even have season tickets and you got your wish to get rid of the N*gro QB.

    By Kenny

    September 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

    Someone said Matt is not a Tom Brady ! Remember Brady had Drew to learn from and this kids (Matt) DO NOT HAVE NO veteran to learn from and this is going to be along season !

    With this team and the new additions, let’s see where will the Falcons be at the half way point of the season. It would be nice to get Jeff Garcia in Atlanta and them the Kids (Matt) can learn from a guy who know how to win.

    The Voting in the Vent is a JOKE ! Please the kids did not proform well in TAMPA. He have a long ways to go, if this team don’t BURN HIM OUT !(ask Joey what happen in DETROIT). win ! baby ! win !

    By Charlie

    September 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

    VickBeliever,

    I didn’t say Matt was perfect, yes he had a bad game. Sure he didn’t do some things a veteran QB should be able to do. But he is not a vet QB….yet.

    BUT WHY? Do you judge the kid so harshly when he is just a rookie making his 2nd start?

    By the way, I don’t need to take a look at myself. I know who and what I am. I love the Lord and I love all people based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. You cannot characterize all black people the same and please don’t assume anything about me.

    You are SICK assuming that everybody wanted to get rid of the QB because he was black. I loved Vick’s ability to run and yes, thought he had a big impact on any game he was in and I was a huge fan. But he let me down, let the fans down and the franchise down. Forgive, yes. Forget, no.

    But he DID NOT change the way football is played, DID NOT revolutionize the old game and HE DID kill poor defenseless animals…animals bred to be PETS…not wild game..and then he lied about it and that is what changed my opinion of him.

    You want to hang your hat and be proud and I understand that. So do I. But what about all the great black players who are upstanding people on and off the field? You are selling them all short when you hero worship a guy who didn’t represent.

    They way you characterize people makes me wonder if you have the ability to ever accept things for what they really are. You imagine all white people have hidden racism toward you and that my friend is Your problem, not theirs, and you are Wrong for harboring your feelings of hatred toward your fellow man.

    I love this team and think we are on the right track. I have seen many Falcons games live and in person including the home opener this year. Change…to echo a famous politician…is upon us. We should enjoy it and our team as one of lifes simple pleasures.

    You need to let it go bro….

    By A_Town_Down

    September 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

    I can’t wait to hear the Falcon PR/Sales machine push a Matty Ice off-season strength training program after this season. ROTFL!!! Trust me its coming.

    I love Vick but I would jump at a chance to have drafted Tim Tebow or Matthew Stafford. When you Ryan-hugger realize this in next years draft….

    By kreese31

    September 16, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

    Charlie, why don’t you put a mister in front of that name, hell you might as well, I have the NFL network and thats all they do is bash Tarvaris Jackson!! and he is WAAAAYYY better than Matt Lienart, but do you see those commentators bashing Matt Lienart, NOOOO what they say is, he’s going to be a good QB in the Future which is beyond me, hell if they can tell the future then why dont they hook me up with fridays Lotto #’s. White QB’s get judged on what they Could possibly be and Black Qb’s get graded on what they are at the moment!! example, joey harrington, Matt Ryan, Kyle Boller, Matt lienart all drafted for the QB’s that they were EXPECTED to be, Duate Culpepper, Steve McNair, MV7, Jamarcus Russell were al drafted for what they had done and impresed teams with!!! heres another one for you, Tim Tebow will be a bust TOO!!! u heard it here first!!!

    By kreese31

    September 16, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

    Charlie you yourself are a racist pig. why was MV7,according to u, innaccurate, couldn’t read a d, couldn’t audible and always took off running and Matt Ryan is a rookie, has moxy, needs help from his receivers and forced to run. look at these two contrasting lines for these two players that played with, essentially,the same team, Huh answer that!! OOHHH forget that MV7 beat Brett Farve in Green Bay and for your info. MV7 won that game buddyroe!! forget that MV7 took us to the championship game, with this same team that you, yourself, is saying needs to help Matt Ryan!!! Why does the team need to Help Matt Ryan and not MV7 answer tht MR. Charlie!! you racist MF!!!!!

    By VickBeliever

    September 17, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

    kreese31 I could not have said it better this white people crack me up. They will never understand what racism is just listen to all the excuses Matt Ryan get his year and when he has a decent game he will be crowned king. I challenge any white, racist Matt Ryan supporter to tell me the last time they heard a white QB referred to as inaccurate or can’t read defenses. Those quotes are ONLY referenced to Black QB’s. Charlie you are such a racist and your comments support that. I don’t think I have ever heard a Vick supporter once say they condone what he did, but you better believe there are lots of WHite people fighting dogs to and I wonder if they are Thugs. Vick made a mistake owned up to it and is serving his time which I for one think was to harsh and he was made a example out of. Think about this Black athelete gets speeding ticket, goes to strip club its all over the news and suspension. White athelete is in the park snorting cocaine and no punishment given at all. So Smuck all you white Racist and KKK King Roger Goddell.

    By Charlie

    September 17, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

    Kreese31 and VickBeliever. You are idiots. Hahahahaha! You “crack” me up!

    Defend your blatant racism by calling other people racist MF all you want. Look in the mirror you *ussies. Live on your crutch the rest of your lives you miserable *hits!

    In your distorted viewpoint Vick “owned up” to his mistakes? HA! When? When he wsa caught red handed? When his “friends” snitched him out?

    Anybody fighting dogs is a Thug. White or black.

    Because somebody supports Ryan he is racist? Hahahaha!

    You guys are part of the problem. Why don’t you be part of the solution?

    Hear they benched T. Jackson? I suppose that is because he is black? Must be, since the backup QB is white! How about, he sucked!

    You guys probably don’t advance at work because you are too busy polishing that chip on your shoulder.

    Sick MF’s.

    By the way…I grew up in a black neighborhood…dummies. Get a clue.

    You assume anyone who disagrees with you is whitey.

    By Mr. Charlie

    September 17, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

    Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    By kreese31

    September 17, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

    Oh earlier on you didnt hear anything about Tarvaris Jackson, now that he’s benched, you want to weigh in on the situation. And Just to show you how Racist you are, What does dog fighting have to do with football, my comments hae been directed at FOOTball ability and the differences, you on the other hand keep bringing up Vicks dogfighting issue. First off, I would like to say”SO what Vick Fought Dogs!!” Whitey hunts!!! R you bashing that BULLSHI* and don’t tell me that its legal, maybe so, but its still brutal, Secondly you jerk!!!, I reiterate, What Does Dogfighting have to do with HOW MV7 PLAYED the GAME of FOOTBALL vs Matt Ryans sorry A? you are so blinded by racism that you don’t even recognize that you are a racist pig!!!

    By kreese31

    September 17, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

    Vickbeliever is on poit too, inaccuray and inability to read defenses are statements that are only directed at Blk QB’s. For example, Matt Lienart was benched for the same reason, inaccuracy and inability to read defenses, but do you hear that from commentators, No you hear that he’s not ready yet!!! BULLSH++ he’s been in the league 3yrs and he’s not reay as a first rd pick, naw, the problem is he sucks, but those commentators don’t say that about wht QBs. answer Vickbeilvers question then if racism dis not a part of the problem. the question was who was the last wht QB to be called inaccurate and unable to read defenses. mind you there are a lot of thm in the league, but when was the last time you heard it on National TV. Example, Kyle Boller has been benched several times for this same reason too, but commentators still say the Kyle Boller is a Good QB!! yeah, he’s so good that the Ravens have drafted 2 QB’s in the last 2 years, thats how good Boller is!! answer the question Mr. Charlie!!!

    By kreese31

    September 17, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

    Mark Bradley, How dare you compare Matty “Ice Cold” to Tom “the Man” Brady. FYI Tom Brady was Tom Brady overnight, he came in for Drew Bledsoe and never looked back, Matty “can’t go deep” Ice is/will struggle, because 1. he can’t throw worth a dam and 2. he cant throw worth a dam!!!! dont dare compare him to Tom Brady!!! Matt Hasselbeck might be a fair comparison, but hell he sucks too!!!!

    By kreese31

    September 18, 2008 5:37 AM | Link to this

    Let e give you another couple of examples of how raism kills this game, The QB that all of you MV7 haters wanted instead of The Great MV7, Matt Slob is out there stinking it up in Houston, but have you heard anything about that!! Tarvaris Jackson, benched after 2 games, although so called experts say that this team was built for a championship, 2gms-get real give him at least 4!!! think thats too many, well lets c, I recall a team in baltimore being primed for the SB and all they needed was a QB! well they went out in the 1st rd and drafted this pretty boy from cal, that ran a 4.5 40 and proclaimed him to be “the Man”, that QB was Kyle Boller, when he struggled, do you think they pulled him after 2games, hell no, he went the whole season. Boller stunk so muh that he was benched, but wait, the next year, guess who came back as the starter again, and again stunk it up, but they r still hanging in with that pootbutt QB!!! Can you all say D-o-u-b-l-e s-t-a-n-d-a-r-d-s!!!

    By Algonquin J. Calhoun

    September 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

    kreeseball, why don’t you try spellcheck? Also, no one is more racist than you. Boy, give us a break! Vick is in prison for his crimes and he’s going to be there for quite some time. An issue? Vick was involved in a criminal enterprise for 61/2 years! That’s more than just an issue. You have an issue with the truth, you can’t handle it. You’re a racist who likes to accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of. Hypocrite!

    By Algonquin J. Calhoun

    September 18, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

    When it comes to the passing game, Vick was never ranked higher than eighteenth in the NFL. He was a lousy quarterback and Ryan is already much better than he ever was! The Vikings have benched Jackson because they’d like to win some games and Jackson can’t get the job done. He’s never been able to do it. He’s just another bum, like Vick, who was over-hyped and under-talented!

    By gabluesdude

    September 18, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

    To bad the defense could`nt get a stop in the last few minutes for one more shot. Instead they give up a huge run at the end to seal the game.

    By kreese31

    September 18, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

    OK, 1). well why isn’t Matt Schlob benched after 2 SEASONS of mediocre play!!!20. again,WHAT DOES DOGFIGHTING HAVE TO DO WITH HOW MV7 PLAYED FOOTBALL!! All you Bums can say is he participated in a riminl activity-so, ok I say he did too, what does that have to do with that spectacular run at the end of the minnesota game in overtime?, hat does dogfighting have to do with MV7 being the first QB to Beat the Great Brett Favre in Green Bay-What does it have to do with FOOTBALL? STOP telling me that MV7 was involved in criminal activity, ok he’s paying for it now, is that the only thing that you can ay, well i’ll say this about Matt Ryan, and it has nothing to do with Dogfighting-He SUCKS!!!! Did you all see those gutter balls, did you see how Nervous he was-hell he was as red as the dam jersey!!!, all of you want to praise him for jut playing the dam game, well hell he was paid 72mil, What the hell was he suppose to do, go and ask oach smith to it him on the bench, If you are going to blog about FOOTBALL, I suggest that you know somrthing about FOOTBALL!! Matt Ryan is the STARTING QB, which means he was going back out there at the end of the half anyway, you all want to praise him as if he did something special. Then on top of that, 7 of those 10 second half completions were check downs which means, for those who don’t know, he either had no where to go with the ball or he didn’t KNOW where to go with the ball!! I’ll bet it was reason #2 for the mere fact he was SOOOOO Nervous(Again, did u see how RED he was)!!!LOL!!!that sh* was FUNNY!!!! the only bum out this field, Aljoquin Cun, is MATTY “ICE-cold”!!!

    By kreese31

    September 18, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

    And Just to prove I aint racist, I’ll tell you my favorite QB of my era, its a tie between, John Elway and Warren Moon!! John Elway because He was a true hard-core warrior QB, he ran when he needed to and took it to the defender, not this old puyaz sliding that today’s QBs do!!! What Punks!!! and Warren Moon, the most Accurate QB I’ve ever seen!! Even over Joe Montana and Troy Aikman!! and before any of you dumbaes start talking something that you don’t know, did you know that Warren Moon threw for 11,000 yds is 5 or 6 yrs in the CFL, then came over to the NFL and threw for 12,000yds!! if racism hadn’t played such a factor back when he came out, Warren Moon would be mentioned amongst the to EVER play this game!!!!! My point is that my favorite QB of all time is John Elway- and he ain’t blk, I don’t have a problem with Wht QBs I hae a problem with over hyping and overrating SOOOOO Many Wht QBs, just beause they are wht! Matt Ryan Gets NO passes Here, he has to play well to get some praise and he hasn’t done that yet!!!!! in 2 games!!

    By Charlie

    September 19, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

    Kreese31,

    Your arguments are laughable and you are a f’in punk.

    You are the number one racist on this blog. Why don’t you put a sock in it and give us all a break. We are tired of your illogical ranting. It tears you up that your boy is rotting away in jail while the white QB has taken his place.

    I don’t care what color the QB is, as long as he can play. But that’s not even the point. The point is you are dissing Ryan and the kid just came out, so you have ZERO track record…two games…from which to base your rant on.

    Your behaviour is abominal…in fact, you are an abomination! Why don’t you buzz the f-off?

    In answer to your question “What does dog fighting have to do with football”? This is what:

    The QB of the ATL Falcons, who had the world at his feet, was involved in dogfighting which is illegal by the way, and because of his stature in the National FOOTBALL League he brought Dogfighting to the attention of the rest of the world in a way never done before. That’s what. In the process, he discraced himself, and made fools out of people who trusted him, loved him and gave him millions of dollars to play a GAME!

    You wanna say “dogfighting, so what?”. Guess you never had a dog, eh?

    True, it’s not like Vick murdered someone. On the other hand, he is paying the price with loss of his career, loss of big money, loss of the adulation he received from millions of fans that looked up to him. Not to mention having to make sure he doesn’t drop the soap in the shower.

    You’re an idiot, and I am done blogging with you.

    By kreese31

    September 20, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

    First off I have four Chows, MV7 has not lost his fans, Have you been to the dome U idiot, those are Vicks Fans that are not in the seats!!! all of you so called Die hard Falcon fans put soooo much much faith in Matt Ryan that you don’t even buy tikets to see him!! well US true Vick fans R Upset at the NFL, not Mr. Blank(love that guy-can’t blame him for Vicks stupidity). Mr Blank has stood by Vick(quietly) all the way, as he should. He has not listened to you dummies!!! If Matty Ice does pan out, then, Unfortunately, I may have to say cianara to the GREAT MV7(dont worry though MV7, Tony Romo is out there screwin up, so keep yo head up)!!! but if Matty Ice turns Ice Cold, WE welcome u back with open ARMS MV7!!!!!!!

    By richbrave

    September 21, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

    kreese31:

    Yo is a METS and COWBOYS fan in disguise. Fess up homeboy. You go for those “thugs” and “gangsta’s” don’t you what used to play hear.?

    By kreese31

    September 22, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this

    I am the first to Bash Matt Ryan, so I’ll be the first to say that he played a good, game, albeit subpar copetition again, but nevertheles he played alright—-no ducks this game! Look though, thats what I’ve been sying all along, that he has played against sub-par competition his whole career while at BC. So I expect him to play well against the Detroits and KC’s, Let’s C what he does against real Comp in Carolina, we’ve already seen him against TB and he looked awful!!By the way, he is Benefitting from a legit RUN game!!!! And I am a COWBOYS fan!!!rich brave!!

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