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Falcons deserve measured optimism

Owing to the softness of the early schedule, the team being forecast as the NFL’s worst could well be 2-1 by 4:30 p.m. on Sept. 21. But we shouldn’t overreact to such a start, just as we shouldn’t despair over anything we see this fall. No matter what happens, we should take the Falcons at their word.

That word is “process.” Thomas Dimitroff, the new general manager, invokes it in every conversation, as in, “This is a process.” If the Falcons don’t believe they’re going to go 1-15, neither do they, in their heart of hearts, foresee this as a playoff team. They’ve started over, and this season is, duh, just the start.

“We’re going to be systematic,” said Mike Smith, the new coach, speaking Friday night of his approach to choosing a starting quarterback. (It’ll be Matt Ryan, in case you haven’t guessed.) In the NFL, only systems succeed over the long haul. Players come and go. Once established, a system can purr on and on.

That system, you should know, isn’t fully (or even nearly) in place. Here’s Paul Boudreau, the astute line coach who has worked in the NFL since 1987: “We’d rather have our players fit the system, but we’re not going to force it. If they can’t fit the system, we’ll change and adapt to the guys we have … Right now we’ve developed an offense based on what we have. It’s like in college — you don’t run the option unless you have an option quarterback.”

The belief here is that these Falcons will play a slew of low-scoring games and will give themselves a chance to win, say, 10 times. Due to inherent personnel limitations, they’ll actually win half that number. To expect much more from a team that went 4-12 in 2007 and has changed coaches yet again and has shed four Pro Bowlers and is going with a rookie quarterback and a rookie left tackle and probably a rookie middle linebacker is simply to expect too much too soon.

But there are different kinds of losing seasons: There’s the 7-9 that should have been 10-6 (see Jim Mora’s final fling), and there’s the 5-11 that promises brighter tomorrows. That’s what this will be. There will come a time when this roster doesn’t lack talent. There will come a time when these rookies are rookies no longer.

Boudreau again: “As we expand this and we get better and we get our drafts going, we’ll start to address the needs of our team based on good players who fit our system. Thomas has made it clear we’re going to have a system here — how we’re bringing free agents in, how we’re bringing draft choices in.”

If you’re a Falcon fan — as opposed to a fan of he who must not be named unless this typist be accused of dredging up the past — that’s cause for optimism. Not giddy glee, but measured optimism. The cult of personality no longer holds sway in Flowery Branch. This regime isn’t going to install the West Coast Offense just because the head coach’s buddy happens to favor the West Coast Offense. There’s a set of beliefs shared by all who work in football operations. More than just being on the same page, Dimitroff and Smith co-wrote it.

This isn’t to say the Falcons are going to win big right away. Winning might take until 2010, and given the state of the economy and the fractured nature of this constituency, we might not see another home sellout until then. But popularity isn’t the immediate concern. Process is, process above all.

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By Ed from Roswell

August 23, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Well said Mark. It appears that there is now a system in place that that will prove its self over the long haul. The Vick lovers will not buy in and end the end, thats OK. Most of these Vick fans are racist at heart and will be replaced with new fans who appreciate the new Falcons. It is time to stop mentioning Vick and his fans period. Let them go away and lets move on. They have embarassed this city enough. That farce called a town meeting that ESPN held last year did more damage to the Atlanta than any event that has happened here in 35 years. Just ask the Chamber of Commerce.

By JIm H.

August 23, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

I agree…hopefully better days are coming.

By This Gets Old

August 23, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

They need an identidy. Whether it’s an overpowering Defense or a smashmouth running game they need to be a force with one of their units.

As far as the Vick “fans” being racists almost everybody who comments on it regularly seems to have some problem with race.

Personally I don’t see why this paper continues to carry Vick legal news in the sports section. Further more I don’t see why the blogs that pertain to the Falcons and Vick are not moderated. Some of these posts are used by coaches that try and recruit high school athletes away from UGA and TECH.

I can tell you as a fact it does have an effect when shown to a parent or guardian. Make of it what you will but it is ludicrous to allow a few malcontents to define a state and it’s peoples in such a negative manner.

Moderate the blogs or remove them.

By The Original (and former) Falcon4Life

August 23, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

15-21 for 102 yards (take away Norwood’s 40 yard screen and it’s 14-20 for 62 yards)….the Falcons just drafted a $72 million clone of Harrington. The joke of the NFL just got much more funny. After the new Golden Boy’s arm strength was exposed with his “pick 6” last week, he doesn’t throw anything but screens and 2-yard routes….LOL!!!! The snake oil salesmen know where they can consistently find the most gullible and ignorant….deep south baby!!!!

By George Holman

August 23, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

You are right on. For the first time since Dan Reeves there is a sense of professionalism around the Falcons. We all need to be patient, but we can all see the future, and the talent of the front office in making that future a relaity!

By George Holman

August 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

You are right on. For the first time since Dan Reeves there is a sense of professionalism around the Falcons. We all need to be patient, but we can all see the future, and the talent of the front office in making that future a reality!

By George Holman

August 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

You are right on. For the first time since Dan Reeves there is a sense of professionalism around the Falcons. We all need to be patient, but we can all see the future, and the talent of the front office in making that future a reality!

By guy

August 23, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

The Falcons don’t need to be worried about Vick or his followers.Vick is a renegade and a loser.If you don’t think so,keep relying on people like him.They will NEVER change,and if they do,it won’t be for long. They’re only sorry they got caught!

By Manny

August 23, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

First up, Vick fans are Falcons fans that are disgruntled by the fact that the most exciting player isn’t in uniform because of dogfighting. Let’s frame this correctly, because it was a great many of those Vick fans that filled the seats and bought season tickets. It was a lot of Vick fans that bought the jerseys and generated a lot of revenue for the Falcons and the City of Atlanta in general. So before you continue talking disparagingly about Vick fans, remember that if you win, those same fans will support this team with ticket sales.

Which brings me to this issue: I do not agree that we should be so optimistic about this season. As I’ve said before, Matt Ryan isn’t ready. All I saw from yesterday were bubble screens and quick slants. When we needed a pass downfield, Ryan couldn’t connect. And it was always too high. That’s because his feet weren’t set.

Now if his seat isn’t set, that’s because he’s uncomfortable. And that’s because the game is going too fast for him, forget what he says.

Now if he’s uncomfortable, he’s prone to mistakes. Those missed passes in the end zone were mistakes. And his mistakes were getting progressively worse the longer he played yesterday. And that was only two quarters. Imagine four quarters. Imagine game 6. Or game 8.

I’m nervous about this year. I hope that our running game can open up lanes, but if defensive coordinators learn to scheme against the bubble screen and quick slants while defending the run, we’re going to have problems. Especially if they can do all of that while blitzing. A good Cover 2 defense will pretty much shut our offense down.

There are positives to look at, but I can tell you, yesterday alarmed me. We cannot score a touchdown on first team unless there’s some sort of mistake that an opponent’s defensive back makes to open up a wide open receiver. But if everyone on the opponent’s defense does their job, we kick field goals.

By Big Falcon Fan

August 23, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Please!!!! lets move beyond MV7. He was a good young athlete that made mistakes. Period.

The Falcons may not be the best this year but I will continue to support them as I have since 1967. Believe the Falcons teams of old were some sorry teams.

P.S. What is the race thing about? Can’t people of color enjoy the NFL? Get a life this is the 21st century. The North defeated the South because Slavery was bad. Thank God.

By Boo Boo

August 23, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Well, it needs to be in place by 2012. That’s when the end of the world is said to come. Wouldn’t that be the Falcon’s luck? Be 8 - 0 when the meteor strikes.

By country boy

August 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Mark Bradley - I owe you one. Your job must be tougher than I first thought. Nice upbeat article that I beleive to be accurate … and here comes the race and Vick p** and moaning from bloggers. Wish we could all move on.

By country boy

August 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Mark Bradley - I owe you one. Your job must be tougher than I first thought. Nice upbeat article that I beleive to be accurate … and here comes the race and Vick p** and moaning from bloggers. Wish we could all move on.

By MaxxFalcon

August 23, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Im concerned more with our Defensive line and depth in the secondary. We will see if Brent Grimes can be a No. 1 corner in this league. Jamaal Anderson has not been very impressive, although Kroy Bierman has looked very good.

By RealFan

August 23, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Falcon fans cannot be this ignorant such as the earlier post by “Falcon4Life” judging a rookie QB based off of one preseason interception.

As a Falcon fan it is frustrating to listen to a bandwagon fan base that criticizes everything without knowing much about football whatsoever. For example those who want a 7th round draft pick QB (DJ) who started one mediocre season in college to be the starter.

Offensively while young a solid foundation is in place with Turner, White, Douglas, Robinson, and Ryan. The offensive line is on its way with Baker and Blaylock and will be addressed next year. The defensive line obviously needs addressing but the linebackers are young and solid.

Any fan who refuses to buy a ticket now should stay away from the Dome permanently because when this team grows and starts being a contender in a few years they will need real fans cheering them on.

By This Gets Old

August 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Big Falcons Fan forget about it! These blogs changed a LOT about the middle of Vick’s last season. If you’re going to lay the blame anywhere it has to be to large extent on AJC. They allow the flames to be fed on the blogs so consequently a lot of people who want to talk about Falcon football ONLY don’t post as often.

By Big Skee

August 23, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

I’d love for the Falcons go 8-8. I would probably jump for joy and buy a Ryan jersey. Just dont cut Shockley, cut Joey and don’t lose Shockley and his athleticism. It would see a shame to see him develop somewhere else. But anyways, keep up the process cause I’m liking what I’m seeing, even in the losses. Go Birds!

By JM

August 23, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

I like the quote from Boudreau. This seems to be a coaching staff that gets it. Petrino didn’t understand the concept of tailoring your scheme around your personnel; instead he tried to make his players fit into his scheme, and it just didn’t work. You can’t be a power running team with an undersized offensive line. I think the current coaching staff understands the weaknesses of this team and is going to do their best to minimize them.

I expect the Falcons to win 6 or 7 games or this year, which would have to be considered a winning season.

By some sense

August 23, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Vick…Race.

It’s just like damn Democrats extolling “economic justice”. If ya uncover that for what it is,socialism, you’re a “hater”. If ya think Vick did something really bad, you’re a racist.

Welcome to the ATL.

By OldTimer

August 23, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

To Falcon4Life, take away Ryans 15 completions and he’d be 0 for 6. You can’t add plays that didn’t happen or subtract plays that did. It is what it is.

To Manny, yes the Falcons would be in trouble against a team that can stuff the run and defend the short passing game. So would every other team in the NFL.

To the Vick fans. You’re not welcome at the game or on this blog. These two arenas are for Atlanta Falcon fans. Go join PETA or something.

I’m still calling it 11 and 5. Good is good. The Falcons are good.

By here comes 0-16

August 23, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

At what point was Ryan, Redman, Harrington ever better than DJ…. NEVER. With those other 3 yahoos 4-12 would equal a playoff season.

By Mark Bradley

August 23, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

If the Falcons go 11-5, Mike Smith won’t just be coach of the year — they’ll be renaming the Vince Lombardi Trophy the Smitty Trophy.

By RedGee

August 23, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Falcon4Life has it all wrong. The play by Norwood was a pitchout and run for 39 yards—not a screen pass. Look at the box score before you start playing games with stats.

By Bill

August 23, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

i think Ryan is the best QB to come into the NFL since manning of the Colts.I think the Falcons should start Ryan because he gives them the best chance to win.Give him 2 or 3 years in the NFL and you want here the name vick anymore.As for his back up Redman looks like the choice here.

By falconfan42

August 23, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

0-16…. I have one word for you….IDIOT

By falconfan42

August 23, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

0-16…. I have one word for you….IDIOT

By Dawg hatin' Jacket

August 23, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

I’m a two-time season ticket holder who gave up the first set of tickets because of the ridiculous price hikes so King Authur could overpay a pretty good running back doing an average job playing quarterback. I was glad I had not paid that kind of money for the stupidity that was the Falcons last year.

However, I repurchased this year after the Birds hired Dimitrov and Smith and I’m glad I did. I was not convinced Ryan was the right choice on draft day. I thought we should go offensive line early and take a lesser quarterback further down the line. However, Ryan is slowly winning me over.

Manny, get real. You described a bunch of rookie mistakes. In case you haven’t looked recently, this past week was the rookie Ryan’s FIRST START. Of course his feet aren’t set. Of course he’s uncomfortable. He’s a rookie quarterback making his first start.

Get a grip Manny, he will get better. It is called EXPERIENCE. Ryan is a smart guy surrounded by good football people. He will figure it out. Beef up the offensive line, get the running game going, and the Falcons will do well. We may not score 40 points a game like the Patriots, but with Smith’s style of defensive play, we won’t need to.

And yes, it may take a couple of years to build the foundation. I’m willing to wait for that to happen. We FINALLY have football people running the show instead of the clowns we’ve had in the past.

By RA

August 23, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Okay,

Folks, that’s about as positive at Bradley’s gonna get. I’d tweak here or there, but under the circumstances, I’ll just take his brand of positivism and go home. Now, if he could eck out something not terrible about the Hawks, that would be nice.

By TheJama

August 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Ryan looked very posed last night against the blitz. Did anyone see the touch pass to Norwood over the blitzing safety? You can’t coach that!! Looked just like Favre, McNabb, etc. do it every week. I also liked Ryan’s hot read to Finneran on a 3 down play in which the Titans blitzed. Yet again Ryan beat the blitz, hit the WR in stride and moved the chains. If he keeps doing these same things teams won’t be as eager to pressure him.

By MV7

August 23, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Yo, haters—-F**k You.

Exactly where were you before I came along? The Dome was an empty mausoleum and you were a joke for three decades.

Funny how racism works. Racists calling MV7 fans racist to mask their hatred of people of color. Same old story from the same old good ol’ boys.

No matter. I’ll be back and stronger than ever. I’ll be welcomed and congratulated by real human beings while being disparaged and exploited by the good ol’ boys and the money mongerers such as PETA. No matter. I’ll be back and I’ll succeed. Again.

By Mephisto

August 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

“Old Timer” is evidence that wisdom does not necessarily come with age.

Signed: Falcons and MV7 Fan.

By hop

August 23, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

ONE major concern is matt ryans lack of arm strength has shown last week when he throw a floater on an down and out pattern.

he is not a good athlete and now with the lack of arm strength, one wonders if he is the real deal.

By Cairo

August 23, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

I guess those people on the 40-60K season ticket waiting list were ALL YKW fans, right? I don’t think so, if that were the case the Falcons would not have needed to spend SO much money and time trying to market this team like NEVER before. They NEVER had to market the team because of YKW but now that people are implying that “those” fans are not Falcon Fans is true and not true. The reason why that waiting list went away is because those people expected a sorry a$$ season that everyone is aware is going to take place. Point Blank! No pun intended. As a Fan of YKW, I was a Falcon fan before YKW was even born. I will admit I did not purchase season tickets until YKW became the starter. Guess what? I am still a season ticket holder so guess since I was fan of YKW as some twit said earlier, I should not be in the dome. Open mouth, Insert Foot!!! Just like Clinton supporters took their ball and went home, you had some YKW fans who took their ball and went home. So what! ish happens and that just lets you know that people need to time to get over ish. Get a grip ATL and let it go. Support the TEAM and not the individual. As far as #2 is concerned it would have been great if the coaches would not have been so obvious in their attempt the appease stat watchers and actually allowed #2 to actually make some down field throws to reassure fans that we will not be a dink and dunk offense. Go Falcons!

By NCFalconFan

August 23, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

For all of you Falcon haters and Vick lovers, why come on this site, take the time to read articles and comment on them? Get a life, already.

Bradley, you’re right, I will rather see the Falcons go 5-11 on the right track than 7-9 because of bad coaching.

Bradley I agree with another post: I understand the importance of still having to speak about “you know who” however, can we move it to another page instead of the Sports section?

By Ed from Roswell

August 23, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Truth is, I’m in love with Vick. I can’t talk football without his name rolling off of my tongue. There will never be another. I really don’t know anything about football, but this blog allows me to share with the world how often I think of the oh-so-powerful Vick. Ask me about the draft, I’ll mention his name. Ask me about the offensive line, I’ll mention his name. Ask me about the current (current, that is) quarterback situation and I’ll mention his name. For that matter, ask me about the defense and I’ll find a way to throw his name into the mix. My jealously and envy of his influence, even while in prison, has evolved into an infatuation with him that I can’t seem to shake. You don’t believe me? I challenge you to find any post I’ve ever submitted that doesn’t doesn’t contain the word “Vick.”

By saint

August 23, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

I’ll be an optimist and say we could win every fourth game, for a total of 5 wins. Maybe Elam will win one all by himself. I like Grimes, makes me really forget Hall. The OL are holding blocks, and the DL really held. Ryan has the strong arm, see how he overthrew in the endzone…but he hasn’t settled down: needs many more snaps. I would keep Shockley and Redman. Nice to have a stud like Turner: we will be able to run on 3rd down. Coach will take care of penalties, which killed us, at least I hope he can.

By Zman

August 23, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Watching last night and seeing how much the team has changed in such a short time made me feel extremely incouraged. I think as a whole this team is already showing improvement from teams of the past 3 or 4 years. I think it starts right up front with the coaching staff. You can see how much fun the team is having with Coach Smith in charge. But the main thing that caught my eye last night was the “O” Line. We were suppose to be worried about them, but I don’t think we have too. They are bigger, faster, and some mean SOB’s. They are playing with a lot of heart and don’t quit on a play till it is done. Last year they would make their first block and stop. Not this year you see them in the defensive back field still hitting even after the whistle. And how about the weight, all of them over 300 LBs. With our running backs we should just keep pounding the ball down everyones throat. That should pull up the linebackers and make it easier for Ryan on quick passes across the center. Coach Smith thanks for making me feel like I am seeing a true NFL team in Atlanta again. The last time was with Coach Reeves.

By George

August 23, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Don’t waist time with this Falcons stuff. Let’s talk UGA football, national championships and such. Get on the train, Mark. Nothing else matters but UGA football. Even Wal Mart has the fever.

By welikebaseball2

August 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Mark Bradley, who are you kidding? I actually could appreciate the opportunity to briefly exchange with you earlier regarding the CURRENT Falcons. You’ve obviously now decided to spend the rest of your day joining the Vick fray. Are you naive enough to think that the very insertion of the words “he who must not be named” isn’t enough to send this blog veering “off-course?” If you haven’t a clue as to what you’ve sparked, look no further than this blog’s first response.

By roan st

August 23, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan is a rookie for christ sake! Give the guy time to develop into a quality QB. The falcons had no QB so we had to freakin draft one at some point. Sure the kid is going to make some mistakes this year. Don’t all rookie QB’s make mistakes? Some of you act as if the falcons made a blunder in drafting Ryan because he doesn’t play like an all-pro after a couple preseason games. Peyton manning was 3-13 in his rookie campaign so expect Ryan to struggle at times this year as well. He sure looked better than Vince Young last night who threw an INT and has played bad all preseason. So far he shows a lot of poise and his teamates like what they see thus far so only time will tell what we have in Matt Ryan. Anyone who expects Ryan to go to the pro bowl and lead the falcons to the playoffs this year is living in fantasy land. In time he may or may not be the guy but it was worth the gamble to see since we had no other alternative. We have to be patient and let him play because that is the only way we are going to find out.

By Wink from Lithonia

August 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

The only optimism that can be accepted is the fact that the players they just drafted will be around for at least 4 years. TD’s draft philosophy is the same as New England’s. Players either sign a 4 year contract or they don’t get signed, this will give continuity, ie the college 4 year plan of old. This I believe is the process they are speaking of and then add in smash mouth football. This is why Joe Horn had a problem with staying here, passes from the New QB will be in short supply. Roddy & Robinson prepare to spend the year blocking.

Only problem with this process is that Falcon fans have suffered for many years and are not inclined to sign on for another 4 year project.

In the meantime, Arthur has to try to sell tickets. Enter Matt Ryan, build him up, market him with Air Tran, give him 3rd game exposure, tailor a game plan for his success with short,3 step drop routes (Montana made a career on such routes, although he was throwing to Jerry Rice & TO), in addition fuel controversy QB of the past to QB of the future, while you at limit the exposure of the UGA QB.

The only optimism I care about as a fan, put the best product on the field, I really don’t want ot wait till 2010 to see professional football in Atlanta, I am investing my dollars now & I want now to count I want now to entertain me. I get to be distracted from my life for 3 hours, Falcon ownership get to play with there toys, and the players get to play a kid’s game for a living. When it is all over we can all go back to doing, what ever else it we do when we are not emotionally invested in football…how that for optimism!

By You got to be kidding me

August 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

When are all these people gonna realize that Mike Vick is not coming back to the Falcons? Get over it! Yes Matt Ryan still has an uphill to climb but he is only a rookie. So what if he throws mainly short passes right now? He is completing the majority of them and moving the chains and running the clock! As his comfort and confidence improves so will the chances in passing that he takes! And to all the Vick disciples, when was the last time he completed any meaningful pass downfield? all he did was dump it , throw it too high or tuck it and run… if the NFL lets him back into the game in 2012, please feel free to cheer for whatever team takes him (probably the Raiders or Cowboys) If the Falcons start showing improvement, I guarantee the Dome will fill up again! There just might be less chicken and waffle stands!

By tmac

August 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Dear Falcon4life-I really wish you would route for a different team. What do you have against Ryan? It’s funny that you would mention him throwing a “pick6” in his second preseason game. I seem to remember MV7 doing this a few times as a VETERAN. I’m pretty sure this will not be his last pick either so can we please stop hearing I told you so after each one?You obviously know nothing about football. HOFer Aikman was 0-11 with 9td and 18int his 1st season. Also, slant routes are designed plays not checkdowns. Amazing how the same group of recievers look good with someone who can throw the ball.

By never-mine

August 23, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

lol…..hold out optimism for the falcons offense while the only score came on a screen play against the low rank tennessee titans defense in preseason.(yeah right) i cant wait to see the pounding the 72 million dollar golden boy takes when it counts for real. so yeah, i’m a vick fan but more importantly a football fan. talking loyalty and support the team when its about money and power. we saw it with the brett favre(green bay debacle) at least the organization didnt try to ruin brett favre nfl career like the falcons did. so never-mine, worry about a full seasons of blackouts, low revenue, the hawks becomig the main attraction downtown and season ending injuries to the few good average players you got left w/the vick fans to blame right.

By brad

August 23, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Offensive line—a lot better that first thought. Running game—could be one of the best in league. Wide receivers—very talented, athletic, and young. Defense secondary—-0 touchdown passes allowed. Defense—0 touchdowns allowed in last 10 quarters. Quarterback—poised, accurate, and gaining exsperience. Why does everyone believe this team is so bad?? Not surprised at all to go 8-8, 9-7.

By thoroughly entertained

August 23, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

You got to be kidding me, your stereotyping/ignorance is actually pretty entertaining. Chicken and waffle stands? What’s sad is that it’s people like you that make this country what it truly is. You’re making your kind look really bad. Keep up the good work! Good thing you’re at a computer and not out somewhere making important hiring or housing decisions. Type, type away!

By bigeasy830

August 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

I believe Matt Ryan will be a good NFL QB in due time. I also believe that the falcons will be a good NFL team in a few years. I like what I see in Coach Smith. He is trying to give the young guys a chance but he is no nonsense in his approach to win. If a player does not cut the mustard then he is a goner from this franchise. I love that approach. That Defense looked good last night. I hope I am wrong about Jamal Anderson, But the young man just does not seem to have that quick first step that is needed to make him a decent pass rusher in the NFL. But Coach Smith is hanging in there with him for the time being. If Jamal Anderson does not improve early in the season then I believe that Coach Smith will make a change at DE. But, lets hope for the best. If Jamal produces from that side and Abraham stays healthy then we can win more games than expected, I agree with you on that point Mark Bradley. Jamal is the key to the defense and maybe the season. Coach Smith and Malarkey will develop the young QB. We do not have to worry about that.

By Falcon Freddie

August 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Great post Cairo. The “You Know Who” story is larger than life and “You Know Who” is becoming the greatest legend in Atlanta Falcons Football History. Thanks to detractors that always complained about his talents and why he wasn’t the QB that they perceived he should be, i.e. a classic, traditional NFL drop back, stay in the pocket, “thinking” QB. Once the season gets underway and the pocket starts to collapse and crumble around Matt Ryan and his INTs, Sacks, Overthrows, Underthrows, behind the back throws and fumbles start to mount so high that even “Them” won’t be able to ignore will “They” finally realize that “You Know Who” was the greatest thing that happened to Atlanta Falcons football. There’s no coincidence that the 56 consecutive sellouts ended and the Television Blackouts began when “You Know Who” was gone. When Matt Ryan defeats Green Bay in the Playoffs on a snowy night in Green Bay; When Matt Ryan Shoes are displayed in Canton, Ohio (NFL Hall of Fame); When kids of all ages are wearing a No. 2 Jersey, then, maybe he will be worth the PRAISE that the press is givin him now. Until then, there’s a legitimate reason to question why the QB performace bar that “You Know How” was measured against has been lowered almost to mediocrity for Matt Ryan.

By D-Cider

August 23, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I agree with welikebaseball2…Mark, you bring up number 7, and think you are being slick.but you are waaaaaaaaaaaay too stupid to do that…btw..r the braves in first place yet?..u r just a loser writing for a town that typically produces losing teams..

By welikebaseball2

August 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

tmac, here’s an exercise for you: Try stating a case for Ryan without ripping Vick.

As for “the same group of recievers” looking “good with someone who can throw the ball,” you obviously haven’t seen the circus catches White has had to make. I’m curious to know who of this “same group of receivers” not named Roddy White has impressed you so greatly, so early? Even as far as he is concerned, did he not begin to blossom last year…under 3 different starting QB’s? Here’s a clue: His development has nothing to do with who is or isn’t behind center. I know, I know, it was simply an opportunity you to bring up the former QB.

Okay, I’ll be waiting for the names of these much improved wide receivers not named Roddy White (who, let you tell it, was held back by the former QB’s inabilities)…

By Mark Bradley

August 23, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

There haven’t been many rookie quarterbacks who have started Game 1 of Season 1, and I can’t imagine there have been any who have been picked apart after three exhibitions to the degree Matt Ryan has. Imagine if he’d been really bad, as opposed to pretty good.

By Falcon Freddie

August 23, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan isn’t being picked apart. What’s being picked apart is the PRAISE that his “average” performance has gotten from the announcers and “sports?” writers. If he had thrown a 60 yard TD for Atlanta instead of for the opposing team, maybe I could agree that he’s playing pretty good. As Jerry Glanville once said, “This Is The NFL…” you’re expected to be good. If you’re making $72,000,000.00 you’re supposed to be spectacular. Read the headlines that Matt Ryan is getting. They do not match his on the field performance, that’s what’s being analyzed on this blog. Why the hype? Is this all a publicity stunt that’s paid for by vested interests?

By welikebaseball2

August 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

I can’t imagine there have been many rookie quarterbacks so heavily clamored for as savior of the franchise after 3 exhibitions to the degree Matt Ryan has.

By sobe

August 23, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Isn’t Michael Vick a felon presently in prison? What does he have to do with anything?

By welikebaseball2

August 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

Hey sobe, what’s your take on the secondary?

By gmonee

August 23, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

JUST let DJ while he’s young because he will never get just do in Atl, let Mr. Ryan be the hated guy in a few years just as all QB’s do in the south. Lets face it things will never change in the south. Just to much racism for me and the media dont help at all, and why all the talk about Mr. Vick three years ago he couldn’t do no wrong. and as far as disgracing the falcons and the city of atlanta. do your research mr.vick didnt have anything to do with what has been there forever. GOD BLESS

By tmac

August 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Falcon4life- It’s not that I want to criticise Vick so much- I really loved watching the guy play. I’m just tired of the needless bs over a guy that is not on the team anymore.

By Kirkwood Bo

August 23, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

Falcon Freddie said it right…Mike Vick was dumb in his decision to fight dogs…Most Vick fans admit that. I will go one better than that, he was stupid. But for the life of me I cannot understand the vile, hateful tone of these blogs…I am a Vick fan because of the excitement and God given talent he possesed. Every Sunday when he was on the field. He was electrifying. His offensive line was terrible. He carried the team on his back because he wanted to win. He is doing his time in prison. He is paying his debt to society…

I do have a problem with the imbalance of justice where a man’s life was ruined because of PETA, the jellyback, spineless media including this blog used as race bait to sell papers and Mike Vick just being stupid…I have made some terrible mistakes in life…I can forgive because I have been forgiven…Mike Vick made me proud to be a Falcon fan..That’s why I can’t wait to see him walk out of prison and just like Joseph of biblical days…climb out the pit and rule the NFL.

By Kirkwood Bo

August 23, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Falcon Freddie said it right…Mike Vick was dumb in his decision to fight dogs…Most Vick fans admit that. I will go one better than that, he was stupid. But for the life of me I cannot understand the vile, hateful tone of these blogs…I am a Vick fan because of the excitement and God given talent he possesed. Every Sunday when he was on the field. He was electrifying. His offensive line was terrible. He carried the team on his back because he wanted to win. He is doing his time in prison. He is paying his debt to society…

I do have a problem with the imbalance of justice where a man’s life was ruined because of PETA, the jellyback, spineless media including this blog used as race bait to sell papers and Mike Vick just being stupid…I have made some terrible mistakes in life…I can forgive because I have been forgiven…Mike Vick made me proud to be a Falcon fan..That’s why I can’t wait to see him walk out of prison and just like Joseph of biblical days…climb out the pit and rule the NFL.

By Unbiased_Blogger

August 23, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

**List of NFL records and milestones In 2006, Vick became the only quarterback in NFL history to rush for over 1,000 yards during the regular season. In 2006, Vick set the NFL record for most yards per carry in a season, at 8.4. When Vick and RB Jerious Norwood both ran for over 100 yards in Week 4 of the 2006 season, the Falcons became the only NFL team to ever record two games in a franchise’s history where both the quarterback and a running back on the same team surpassed the 100-yard mark in the same game. (Vick and Warrick Dunn both eclipsed 100 yards in Week 2 of the same season.) Vick (1,039 yards) and Dunn (1,140) became the first QB/RB tandem in NFL history to each go over the 1,000-yard rushing mark in the same season. They also became the fourth set of teammates in league history to each have 1,000 or more yards. The last set of teammates to accomplish the feat were Cleveland RBs Kevin Mack (1,104 yards) and Earnest Byner (1,002) in 1985. Earned his second consecutive and third overall Pro Bowl nod in 2005 as he passed for 2,412 yards and 16 touchdowns in addition to leading all NFL quarterbacks with 597 rushing yards and six scores. Named to the second Pro Bowl of his career after leading the Falcons to their third division title in team history and breaking numerous NFL and team records in 2004. Set an NFL postseason record for a quarterback with 119 rushing yards in the 2004 NFC Divisional Playoff win against the Rams. Became the first quarterback to ever throw for more than 250 yards and rush for over 100 yards in the same game at the Broncos (October 31, 2004). Named to the 2002 Pro Bowl, becoming the seventh quarterback to be voted to the NFL All-Star game in his first year as a starter since 1970, joining Dan Marino of the Miami Dolphins (1983), Brett Favre of the Green Bay Packers (1992), Kurt Warner of the St. Louis Rams (1999), Daunte Culpepper of the Minnesota Vikings (2000), Donovan McNabb of the Philadelphia Eagles (2000), and Tom Brady of the New England Patriots (2001). This group would later include Marc Bulger of the St. Louis Rams (2003), Philip Rivers of the San Diego Chargers (2006), and Tony Romo of the Dallas Cowboys (2006). Top overall NFL draft choice in 2001 after a celebrated college career at Virginia Tech. Was the fourth Falcons #1 overall pick in club history (Tommy Nobis in 1966, Steve Bartkowski in 1975, Aundray Bruce in 1988)

By NCBravesFan

August 23, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Freddie - Ironically, Glanville wasn’t that good.

By northwestgeorgia.com

August 23, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

mark i know since geographically you report in atlanta and the falcons are probably tech fan’s adopted team since generally they are losers just like the insects on north avenue but regarded optimism for the falcons is hoping they won’t throw more than four interceptions a game and hoping they outscore the braves course a field goal per game should do that i am just glad i escaped from nerdsville to the country in north ga. ya’ll have fun circling the perimeter hoping to find a football team in atlanta lol

By BCS Slave

August 23, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

Ok guys, as long time Falcons fans, I grant we have every reason to doubt. We can’t even string together two consecutive winning seasons. But come on! Give Ryan a chance. He is smart enough with enough leadership ability that he will get better. His arm strength is good enough to accurately deliver 30-40 yard passes. He needs time to learn NFL defenses and to get used to his receivers. He needs a line that will give him time to pass. He’s not even using half the playbook. If he doesn’t get injured behind an inconsistent line…he will make strides by next year.

There’s a lot of reason to look to the future with hope. Already, we’re seeing the quality of player drafted this year are far above what we’ve drafted in the past. Even our maligned O-Line players are looking 100% better. We’ve got a great coaching staff and a better GM. Our linebackers look solid. Running backs solid. Secondary much improved. QB play even looks better. The future looks better than it has in nearly 30 years.

By northwestgadawg

August 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

if the falcons go 11 and 5 call the producer of the twilight zone because thats what you’ll be in!

By BCS Slave

August 23, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Kirkwood Bo,

LOL…I just couldn’t resist responding to just one idiot talking about the past. PETA didn’t ruin anyone’s life. Breaking the law and then lying about your crime can, occasionially in this country, result in a jail sentence.

By monty

August 23, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

No one can say that Vick wasn’t an athlete. He was a freak of nature athletically. But in the end he allowed his upbringing or maybe lack thereof to cause him to make many poor ethical choices. Will I miss his scrambles for touchdowns(works of athletic art)? Definitely! WE may never see another QB with the gifts that he had in this league again. What I hope is that in a couple of years, a system proves it can accomplish with discipline and talent( of another kind) what shere athleticism and a lack of a system and a lack of discipline couldn’t. A consistently good franchise.

By welikebaseball2

August 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Funny how some people only jump on the blog when presented with an opportunity to make themselves feel better about their own miserable lives by ripping the former QB.

Hey sobe, still waiting on your take on the secondary. For the 1st time in forever, I’m actually not worried about the defensive backfield going into the season. What do you say? How about you BCS Slave? Up for any football talk?

By Bill

August 23, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

ATL Ryan rant

George and Gmonee (if that is your real name!)

Wow, just Wow! Let me break it down for you so you can understand.

  • Vick was a talent RUNNING the ball only. Every pass he threw was an adventure all it’s own, and his game-management skills left a lot to be desired. No one ever won anything with a one-trick pony QB.

  • He broke the law in a henious way and had to be locked up. I’m not a fan of PETA, but they were right on on this one. He broke the law and went to jail. No racism, so far right?

  • My only faults with Blank are here: a. He gives Vick waaay to much slack over the years. (myspace pot pictures, water bottles, etc…)

  • b. He hires a gutless coward of a coach (Petrino). Hard to fault him though, at the time, a lot of people wanted to hire him…

    4 And finally, the Falcons draft a REAL GM, a REAL coach (not a media darling, good!) and a REAL QB. The future looks a lot brighter.

    Don’t get me wrong, I was one of many people in the stands anticipating the next offensive play the Falcons to see what Vick would do next. He was an amazing athlete, but either a good person with bad judgement or just a bad person. As a dog lover, I’m only sorry that Ray Lewis and Adulias Thomas didn’t finish the job back in the 2002 pre-season!

    If I’m judging, so be it. I’ll take it up with the Lord at a later date…

    Can we all just get past all this racial garbage? it really is getting old…

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 23, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

    BILL - You are disgusting. Let me guess, you are a vegetarian? Otherwise you are a biggot. Shut the hell up, nobody cares if you are a dog lover or beef lover.

    By BCS Slave

    August 23, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

    welike: If you want to talk football, scroll up and read my earlier post.

    And by the way…I didn’t rip anyone (accept Bo). I just stated the facts…something that is sorely lacking among most of the folks on here…yourself included. Before you start lumping people in your attacks…pay attention to what’s going on in the blog.

    By Native

    August 23, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

    Man Ya’ll folk are sick. Matt Ryan is just another great white hope/hype. I wanna hear this same Bullsh*t when the Falcons are 2-8 mid season. It boggles the mind when you hear the coaching staff talking about they want to see Chris Redman and joey Harrington on the field during the preseason, when you had a whole season last year to see what they are all about…..NOTHING. Why not give Shockley a chance. Switch up the tempo instead of having 3 of the exact same types of QB’s. Oh well, I’m getting used to mediocre sports here in ATL. Ya’ll don’ wanna win. You just want some white boys to cheer for on the field. Look at them sorry, pathetic wht-a$$ Atlanta Braves. Ya’ll Hillbillies happy with what you got? Enjoy yourself this year. Hope Ryan takes ya’ll to the promised land. Vick was nowhere near as exciting as this guy.

    By Bill

    August 23, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

    OK welikebaseball, Let talk secondary…

    Let’s see. Addition by subtraction, we lost one VT malcontent big-mouth! DHall, we won’t miss ya. We lost ANOTHER VT malcontent Jimmy Williams, when Mr NFL cornerback showed up to mini camps overweight and mouthing off. Sound familiar?

    We added Erik Coleman (proven pro), Tevis Jackson, (promising rookie) and Lawyer Malloy can actually lead back there with the VT Malcontent dou gone.

    Rebuttal?

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

    VICK IS NOT THINKING ABOUT THE SORRY FALCONS WHEN HIS FUTURE IS BRIGHT IN 2009.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/08/10/ufl/index.html

    By Gunner

    August 23, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

    IF THE FALCONS CAN GO 8-8. MIKE SMITH SHOULD BE THE COACH OF THE YEAR.

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 23, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

    BILL - You need to do your research. According the the NFL NETWORK & ESPN, D. Hall is ranked a top 3 shutdown corner. Do your research, but it appears that every non-white player is either a thug or criminal in your book. Back your claims with facts if you have any.

    By bill

    August 23, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

    Unbiased_Blogger said:

    BILL - You are disgusting. Let me guess, you are a vegetarian? Otherwise you are a biggot. Shut the hell up, nobody cares if you are a dog lover or beef lover

    OK, Unbiased Dogger, have a question for you. So, I’m either a Vegetarian, (no) or a bigot (again, no)? What does one have with the other? Amazing thought process.

    Vick BROKE THE LAW AND WENT TO JAIL! What’s sad is that he’s STILL got defenders and backers. What are you a fan of, he’s a jailbird! Are you rooting for him to break out in pursuit showing off that speed of his? Unbelievable…

    Please take your computer back to Best Buy, you are not ready to use it yet!

    By BCS Slave

    August 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

    Gunner, I think the Falcs can win 6 games this year. If our O-Line finds a way to open holes and pass protect, we still have a major problem with our D-Line. They looked like they have a long way to go.

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

    TOP 10 CORNER BACKS IN NFL 2007/2008 SEASON: Facts not opinions.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080121100411AAYVKtG

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

    TOM: Dogs, cats, pigs, cows, deers are all animals. Deal with it. QUESTION: If a deer is shot - what happens to the deer’s off-springs?

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    August 23, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

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    By Mark Bradley

    August 23, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

    I hate to contribute to this rapidly deteriorating discussion, but I should point out that Unbiased Blogger’s table of top 10 cornerbacks is, in fact, someone’s opinion. And, as far as I can discern, it’s an anonymous someone’s.

    By welikebaseball2

    August 24, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

    BCS Slave, okay, let’s talk football. What convinces you (considering a substantial amount of picks thrown in college) that Ryan is “smart enough?” He looks okay. I honestly think giving him 40 yards on a pass might be stretching it a bit. His accuracy is questionable (lots of high balls) at best. I really am hoping for the best, but let’s not get carried away.

    Bill, amazing…you even find a way reveal your bitterness when asked about the secondary.

    First of all, how was J. Williams a malcontent?

    Second of all, let it be known that D. Hall in no way hindered Malloy’s leadership in the secondary. If you really know anything about the team, you’d know that cornerback wasn’t the weakspot. It was actually at safety.

    Your bigotry is actually hilarious!

    By Su-fei

    August 24, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this

    Optimism? I am optimistic that Mike Vick will burn in Hell for raping and sodomizing dogs. SICKNESS!

    By Unbiased_Blogger

    August 24, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

    BRADLEY: Aren’t your articles and discussions opinion based? Would it be more factual if it was reported by ESPN or NFL.COM?

    By stereotypical

    August 24, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

    Su-fei I hate to break it to you but that doesn’t make your personal failures look any better! lol

    By Curious George

    August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

    Why do Vick Supporters have such poor manners and so little consideration for their fellow fans?

    By big o

    August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

    big ed from roswell you are a %^&&$#@ idiot

    By Curious George

    August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

    Why do Vick Supporters have such poor manners and so little consideration for their fellow fans?